Apparently being peeved at having one's experienced delegitimized as just tumblrina faking delusional special snowflake bullshit is "tribalism" now? Also, yeah, people making new terms to explain and make sense of their emotional experiences is totally on the same level as conservativism, these aren't diametrically opposed concepts or anything.
Also, here's someone with an actual certified doctorate acknowledging the issue and providing sources. But yeah, whatever, no actual discrimination at all, nope~ Tell me, what's the minimum amount of discrimination that has to exist before you can be bothered to acknowledge it?
But yes. Positing that this is on the exact same level of severity as homophobia and transphobia by making a direct comparison would be fucking asinine and offensive. I acknowledge that. It's a damn good thing I never did that, though; all I said (or tried to get across) was that if you have a problem with people of one sexual/romantic/gender identity being discriminated against but gleefully mock another one because it sounds "fake" and "made-up" enough for you to safely indulge in cognitive dissonance without remorse or misgivings, then you've got another think coming.
Alright, I think you've got the wrong idea here. Nobody here is mocking asexuals as a whole, or saying they don't really exist and are just attention seekers, we're taking the piss out of a small subset of idiots on Tumblr (who may or may not actually be asexual themselves) who just make up nonsense like "queerplatonic" just to make something as mundane as being friends with people seem unique and special. That's the kind of thing we're dismissing as special snowflake bullshit. Again, we all know that asexuality is indeed a real, medically proven trait, nobody is trying to mock or dismiss asexuality itself.
You know how we love to take the piss out of idiots who make up their own genders (nonsense like "quirogender", "voidgender", "purplegender", "demiquasiblowblowgender" and the like), yet that doesn't mean we're dismissing or mocking actual transpeople? This is pretty much the same sort of thing. If we managed to hit a nerve that badly (or "triggered" you, if you will, heh heh), you may want to take some time to calm down before posting in this thread some more.
Feel fine enough being alone that you don't have a screaming need for an intimate relationship? Nope, you're not an adult who's just fine being alone; you're "aromantic." You're not just a walking hormone that wants to fuck anything upright but still like to have an orgasm or two every once in a while and hope those orgasms are with another person if possible? Nope, you're not an adult who isn't defined by how often they fuck, you're "asexual."
Uh-huh. Yeah. Sure. My ass that was all that was going on. (Also, "trigger" jokes? In 2015?)
Still. I admit that in my anger, I lashed out at people who might not have had it coming and have been relatively reasonable, expressed myself poorly and oversimplified the issue. I'd like to take a moment to apologize to everyone who isn't Damen or Ironchew for that. I can see where you're all coming from with the attitude that people who make neopronouns and new terms for sexuality and gender are delegitimizing LGBT people. I don't share that attitude, obviously, but I've calmed down enough to acknowledge it.
yeah, see, now, because you're angry, you're making an ass of yourself.
if you read the thread in its entirety, you'll see why we're jaded about a lot of what tumblr has to offer. for example, fictionkin and objectkin. those are silly and delegitimize the trans movement by taking away necessary attention to it, namely when fictionkin say they experience disphoria.
tribalism would be more along the lines of "believing everything you read on the internet". we know that tumblr is a hotbed of teenage attention-seeking, so that's why we have two threads to talk about social justice. the "worst", where we showcase the asses, and the "best", where sensible things are posted. we also have the "things" threads where we can post things not directly related to social justice. around here, skepticism is the norm, and most of us read everything with a grain of salt.
there is discrimination everywhere, of course, but baby steps. most humans are simple creatures who can only be bothered with the flavor of the week. 10 years ago in the usa, gay marriage would never have passed. then came civil unions, marches, legislation, and look where we are. progress is maddeningly slow, and most people don't even know the existence of asexuals, because it's misunderstood. what do we do? we don't cry about it, we tackle bigger more flashy issues until the populace can accept it, in a sort of positive trickle-down effect.
you've given us three sources, sure. two blogs and the huffpost. frankly, it's niche at best. i'm not saying it doesn't exist, i'm saying that people don't care because they don't even know aces exist in the first place. does that make them cold? no, they treat it like generalized rape. which it is. you wanna tackle the ace rape problem? tackle a bigger fish, like rape (of all kind and against all victims).
and unfortunately, with hyperbole being difficult to separate from the truth on the internet, yes, people who post do believe their issue is the single most important one. hell, most people find it hard to concentrate on two things at once (for example, abortion clinic bombings and gay rights). you get jaded after a while.
there, i believe i said all that should be said about your angry rant in a calm collected manner.
- "Believing everything you read on the Internet" makes no sense because the Internet is a communication vehicle same as anything else. You might as well say "oh, you just heard of that on the television so it's definitely not real lol"
- "no, they treat it like generalized rape. which it is." if the rape is directed at someone specifically for having a specific sexuality or whatever, then it's not generalized rape. quod erat demonstratum.
- "you've given us three sources, sure. two blogs and the huffpost." well what do you know? I've developed the mystical ability to see into the future. still, at least you're acknowledging that the issue exists, and I can acknowledge that you're acknowledging it. I can admit that my number of sources is low, but at the moment I was trying to show that the issue even exists and affects ace people specifically.
- see, your comments about how I need to "tackle a bigger fish" and "tackle more flashy issues" would be excellent and valid criticism if I was actually hosting a political rally or a protest or whatever. only that's not what I'm doing. I'm one person, screaming into the void on a forum.
- "with hyperbole being difficult to separate from the truth on the internet, yes, people who post do believe their issue is the single most important one. hell, most people find it hard to concentrate on two things at once (for example, abortion clinic bombings and gay rights)." I'm pretty sure that people who talk about one issue aren't ignorant of or trivializing other issues while they're talking about the first issue. people can be aware of several things at once. it's not like I can't understand your cynicism, but if I don't literally see someone say "this is the most important issue ever and all other issues are shit to me", I lean more towards idealism.
- How's this? Am I being calm enough to be taken seriously now? I'm not even being facetious (mostly).
Some of them will insist they are unique or oppressed because of a nonsensical condition they create for themselves (headmates are an example)
Dissociative Identity Disorder is an actual thing, documented by actual psychologists. Pardon me, but I call bullshit on this whole "lol look at this tumblrina making up conditions" attitude.
