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Title: I think I found potential future wives
Post by: Jacob Harrison on July 30, 2018, 05:34:39 pm
Somehow I got these messages from these random women. I can tell one of them that I am will be willing to marry her if she agrees to have my children raised as Roman Catholics and for my eldest to be raised as the successor as the Grand Master of an English monarchist legitimist society.
Title: Re: I think I found potential future wives
Post by: Tolpuddle Martyr on July 30, 2018, 05:38:19 pm
Somehow I got these messages from these random women. I can tell one of them that I am will be willing to marry her if she agrees to have my children raised as Roman Catholics and for my eldest to be raised as the successor as the Grand Master of an English monarchist legitimist society.
Pretty funny Borat.

Not up there with "oink" though!
Title: Re: I think I found potential future wives
Post by: davedan on July 30, 2018, 05:57:38 pm
Fuck Jacob - Beverly Byrd said she loved me. She has been emailing me for months. Provided I can send her enough money to pay for her father's kidney transplant and her air-tickets she is flying to Australia to court.

You fucking cracker, if you have been seducing my paramour, I will have blood cracker.

I demand satisfaction.
Title: Re: I think I found potential future wives
Post by: Jacob Harrison on July 30, 2018, 06:00:52 pm
Fuck Jacob - Beverly Byrd said she loved me. She has been emailing me for months. Provided I can send her enough money to pay for her father's kidney transplant and her air-tickets she is flying to Australia to court.

You fucking cracker, if you have been seducing my paramour, I will have blood cracker.

I demand satisfaction.

Well I guess she finds me more attractive.
Title: Re: I think I found potential future wives
Post by: niam2023 on July 30, 2018, 06:10:01 pm
Fuck Jacob - Beverly Byrd said she loved me. She has been emailing me for months. Provided I can send her enough money to pay for her father's kidney transplant and her air-tickets she is flying to Australia to court.

You fucking cracker, if you have been seducing my paramour, I will have blood cracker.

I demand satisfaction.

Well I guess she finds me more attractive.

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA OH WAIT YOU'RE SERIOUS.
Title: Re: I think I found potential future wives
Post by: davedan on July 30, 2018, 06:10:17 pm
You Cad, you corrupter of virtue. Have you no honour?

You have trampled on the beauteous rose to whom I have paid court, and as I said before cracker I demand satisfaction!
Title: Re: I think I found potential future wives
Post by: dpareja on July 30, 2018, 06:16:27 pm
How many of these people are your cousins?
Title: Re: I think I found potential future wives
Post by: Jacob Harrison on July 30, 2018, 07:30:13 pm
I realized that according to Catholic Canon law, a marriage between a baptized person and an unbaptized person is null and void and Beverly probably isn’t baptized.
Title: Re: I think I found potential future wives
Post by: davedan on July 30, 2018, 07:41:13 pm
Not satisfied with tarnishing the object of my affection you continue to hurl abuse at her and slander her character. You must be prepared to face the consequences.

Bounder!
Title: Re: I think I found potential future wives
Post by: Jacob Harrison on July 30, 2018, 07:49:12 pm
Not satisfied with tarnishing the object of my affection you continue to hurl abuse at her and slander her character. You must be prepared to face the consequences.

Bounder!

What are the consequences?
Title: Re: I think I found potential future wives
Post by: davedan on July 30, 2018, 07:52:31 pm
Were you a gentleman, which you are not, you would know.

I require a retraction and apology or I will require satisfaction.
Title: Re: I think I found potential future wives
Post by: dpareja on July 30, 2018, 07:53:39 pm
http://canonlawmadeeasy.com/2013/01/17/cath-marry-non-christian/

Sure a Catholic can marry an unbaptized person--they just need permission of their bishop. (Just like if the Catholic wants to marry a baptized Christian who isn't a Catholic.)

Of course, this is only relevant to the empty notion of Catholic marriage; there is of course absolutely no impediment to the only part of it that has any relevance to anything whatsoever, which is the civil marriage contract.
Title: Re: I think I found potential future wives
Post by: Jacob Harrison on July 30, 2018, 07:53:43 pm
Were you a gentleman, which you are not, you would know.

I require a retraction and apology or I will require satisfaction.

I apologize for wanting to marry your love.
Title: Re: I think I found potential future wives
Post by: davedan on July 30, 2018, 07:56:10 pm
A retraction of the slander against the fair Beverly is still required.
Title: Re: I think I found potential future wives
Post by: Jacob Harrison on July 30, 2018, 08:01:11 pm
Then again as Dpareja said, I can get permission from the bishop, or I can have her get baptized.

She chose me to be her love, so you don’t have a case.
Title: Re: I think I found potential future wives
Post by: davedan on July 30, 2018, 08:06:18 pm
Case. Case! I'm talking about honour you little pussy. I'm talking about defending my honour. By way of duel. But I am no Spadassin - I will fight you with my cock.
Title: Re: I think I found potential future wives
Post by: Jacob Harrison on July 30, 2018, 08:10:06 pm
Case. Case! I'm talking about honour you little pussy. I'm talking about defending my honour. By way of duel. But I am no Spadassin - I will fight you with my cock.

How can you beat me in a duel with your cock?
Title: Re: I think I found potential future wives
Post by: davedan on July 30, 2018, 08:11:48 pm
I'm going to bludgeon you to death
Title: Re: I think I found potential future wives
Post by: Jacob Harrison on July 30, 2018, 08:14:32 pm
I'm going to bludgeon you to death

But you don’t know where I live, so how are you going to find me?
Title: Re: I think I found potential future wives
Post by: davedan on July 30, 2018, 08:16:41 pm
So you have no honour? Come and take my cock like a man.
Title: Re: I think I found potential future wives
Post by: Jacob Harrison on July 30, 2018, 08:20:23 pm
So you have no honour? Come and take my cock like a man.

It is foolish to duel to the death over a woman. It is a sign of maturity for you to accept that Beverly is no longer yours.
Title: Re: I think I found potential future wives
Post by: dpareja on July 30, 2018, 08:32:56 pm
Thanks. I needed a good laugh.
Title: Re: I think I found potential future wives
Post by: niam2023 on July 30, 2018, 09:04:48 pm
Jacob I'm afraid you need to re-upload the oink video to assuage davedan's honor, lest he try and find you and ergo go after you!
Title: Re: I think I found potential future wives
Post by: Tolpuddle Martyr on July 30, 2018, 10:59:22 pm
So you have no honour? Come and take my cock like a man.

It is foolish to duel to the death over a woman. It is a sign of maturity for you to accept that Beverly is no longer yours.
C'mon son, take the righteous, avenging cock! A few hail Mary's, a bit of change in thw plate and you'll be fine.

Take the righteous cock!
Title: Re: I think I found potential future wives
Post by: niam2023 on July 31, 2018, 01:25:39 am
Or, failing that, fight against the most unrighteous, heinous, chariot-riding cock - the great Demon Lord Mara!

(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-I_U1KyJpcTg/WNixkzKnzhI/AAAAAAAAAEA/RHQ1Lrv56_MHPBcQ1WQCd62NlN-skUGIgCLcB/s1600/magn.jpg)
Title: Re: I think I found potential future wives
Post by: davedan on July 31, 2018, 04:01:24 am
So you have no honour? Come and take my cock like a man.

It is foolish to duel to the death over a woman. It is a sign of maturity for you to accept that Beverly is no longer yours.

You are a coward, as well as a cad. You unrepentant swine. I will bludgeon you to death with my member. Don't listen to Tol, you're going to need much more than an aspirin by the time I am through.
Title: Re: I think I found potential future wives
Post by: Tolpuddle Martyr on July 31, 2018, 04:16:04 am
You swinging that meat baseball bat at Jacob or at everyone, cracker?

Not even offering to buy dinner first!
Title: Re: I think I found potential future wives
Post by: davedan on July 31, 2018, 04:22:41 am
You swinging that meat baseball bat at Jacob or at everyone, cracker?

Not even offering to buy dinner first!

Sorry in my rage at the guttersnipe lothario, I have quite lost the use of proper grammar.

I was simply meaning to inform this besmircher of women that confession and and an advil will not be sufficient to remedy his skull after he suffers justice at the end of my cock.
Title: Re: I think I found potential future wives
Post by: Jacob Harrison on July 31, 2018, 07:04:43 am
What makes you think that you have a right to Beverly if she rejected you? Marriage is a matter of consent.
Title: Re: I think I found potential future wives
Post by: Tolpuddle Martyr on July 31, 2018, 07:49:27 am
What makes you think that you have a right to Beverly if she rejected you? Marriage is a matter of consent.
D'yeh think in your beloved Middle Ages it was a matter of consent boyo?

Elucidate us Jacob, tell us about "consent" in medieval Christendom.
Title: Re: I think I found potential future wives
Post by: Jacob Harrison on July 31, 2018, 08:06:51 am
What makes you think that you have a right to Beverly if she rejected you? Marriage is a matter of consent.
D'yeh think in your beloved Middle Ages it was a matter of consent boyo?

Elucidate us Jacob, tell us about "consent" in medieval Christendom.

Well in royal families, marriages were often done for political reasons mainly alliances between Kingdom’s or Duchies.
Title: Re: I think I found potential future wives
Post by: Tolpuddle Martyr on July 31, 2018, 08:28:28 am
What makes you think that you have a right to Beverly if she rejected you? Marriage is a matter of consent.
D'yeh think in your beloved Middle Ages it was a matter of consent boyo?

Elucidate us Jacob, tell us about "consent" in medieval Christendom.

Well in royal families, marriages were often done for political reasons mainly alliances between Kingdom’s or Duchies.
Could a wife withhold consent from her husband?
Title: Re: I think I found potential future wives
Post by: Jacob Harrison on July 31, 2018, 08:30:57 am
What makes you think that you have a right to Beverly if she rejected you? Marriage is a matter of consent.
D'yeh think in your beloved Middle Ages it was a matter of consent boyo?

Elucidate us Jacob, tell us about "consent" in medieval Christendom.

Well in royal families, marriages were often done for political reasons mainly alliances between Kingdom’s or Duchies.
Could a wife withhold consent from her husband?

Yes I think so.
Title: Re: I think I found potential future wives
Post by: Jacob Harrison on July 31, 2018, 08:31:28 am
I replied to Beverly and said this to her.

"Hello, do you want to marry me in the future. Since I am a Roman Catholic, what you must agree to do is get baptized for the marriage to be recognized as legitimate
by the Church and also agree to let me raise our children to be Catholic, and for the eldest of them to be raised to be my successor the Grand Master of a Society that I am starting
I am 19 right now, but we can get married after I graduate from college in 2021"
Title: Re: I think I found potential future wives
Post by: Tolpuddle Martyr on July 31, 2018, 09:06:29 am
What makes you think that you have a right to Beverly if she rejected you? Marriage is a matter of consent.
D'yeh think in your beloved Middle Ages it was a matter of consent boyo?

Elucidate us Jacob, tell us about "consent" in medieval Christendom.

Well in royal families, marriages were often done for political reasons mainly alliances between Kingdom’s or Duchies.
Could a wife withhold consent from her husband?

Yes I think so.

You think so, huh? (https://www.publicmedievalist.com/got-rape-and-middle-ages/)

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Most people are familiar with the idea that people at that time were married very young, and that arranged marriages were the norm. I’m happy to report that this was not always the case; prepubescent betrothals were typical only for those among the aristocracy who had a limited pool of peers. As you move up the social pyramid, there are fewer and fewer people around your particular rung, which means good matches for your sons and daughters (meaning ones that increase your wealth or social standing) get a bit thin on the ground. That is certainly not to say that marriages were not arranged; they very often were. For example the History of the Counts of Guines provides a classic example of aristocratic marriages, where the eldest men of the family (often grandfathers or fathers, but sometimes uncles or even older siblings) would arrange marriages for the women in the family in order to increase their own prospects and that of their clan. Sons sometimes could find their own bride, but not always—and often only with approval from the patriarch.

If that were not bad enough for aristocratic women, there was another option for the ambitious bachelor: marriage by abduction. Yes, it was considered a valid part of “traditional marriage” during much of the Middle Ages for a man to acquire a bride by kidnapping an eligible woman and forcing her to marry him. And since, as discussed above, a marriage is not fully binding until sex, there is the implication that rape was necessarily part of this. This is not limited to thuggish petty knights roaming the countryside; both Theobald V, Count of Blois, and Geoffrey, Count of Nantes attempted to marry Eleanor of Aquitaine—then the most eligible woman in Europe—by kidnapping her. Cleverly, Eleanor managed to evade them, and afterwards elected to get married very quickly, not least to thwart these and any future plots. But what a truly horrid choice to be forced into—being required to be married out of fear that you will be kidnapped, raped and forced to marry your rapist. Making matters even worse, as Caroline Dunn argues, that lawmakers typically “neglected unwilling victims of bride-theft because their focus was on consensual elopements.” In other words, they were too busy cracking down on couples eloping against the wishes of their aristocratic families than on the women kidnapped against their will.

Hm.

And then there's this. (https://www.ourcivilisation.com/smartboard/shop/taylorgr/sxnhst/chap2.htm)

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It was frequently declared that clerical sins should be overlooked unless they became a public scandal, exceptionally light penalties were imposed, and frequent dispensations and absolutions were granted by the Curia.

Now what does that remind me of?
Title: Re: I think I found potential future wives
Post by: Jacob Harrison on July 31, 2018, 10:33:59 am
1. Right it involved the consent of the families making it still consensual

2. Well under Catholic Canon law, forced marriages are grounds for annulment.
Title: Re: I think I found potential future wives
Post by: dpareja on July 31, 2018, 10:42:29 am
1. Right it involved the consent of the families making it still consensual

2. Well under Catholic Canon law, forced marriages are grounds for annulment.

1. No, consent means the willing, uncoerced agreement of the parties involved--the people getting married. The families get fuck all to say about it, and certainly cannot consent on behalf of their children.

2. Was that true back in the halcyon days of feudalism?
Title: Re: I think I found potential future wives
Post by: Jacob Harrison on July 31, 2018, 12:45:11 pm
1. Right it involved the consent of the families making it still consensual

2. Well under Catholic Canon law, forced marriages are grounds for annulment.

1. No, consent means the willing, uncoerced agreement of the parties involved--the people getting married. The families get fuck all to say about it, and certainly cannot consent on behalf of their children.

2. Was that true back in the halcyon days of feudalism?

1. Well it means that it wasn't a husband forcing it on bride, it was the families forcing it on both the bride and groom. These marriages brought stability.

2. Coerced marriage due to kidnapping being grounds for annulment has been part of Catholic canon law for centuries.
Title: Re: I think I found potential future wives
Post by: Art Vandelay on July 31, 2018, 12:49:30 pm
Well, if this doesn't pan out for you, I know where you can meet plenty of women like these two.

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Title: Re: I think I found potential future wives
Post by: dpareja on July 31, 2018, 01:25:04 pm
1. Right it involved the consent of the families making it still consensual

2. Well under Catholic Canon law, forced marriages are grounds for annulment.

1. No, consent means the willing, uncoerced agreement of the parties involved--the people getting married. The families get fuck all to say about it, and certainly cannot consent on behalf of their children.

2. Was that true back in the halcyon days of feudalism?

1. Well it means that it wasn't a husband forcing it on bride, it was the families forcing it on both the bride and groom. These marriages brought stability.

2. Coerced marriage due to kidnapping being grounds for annulment has been part of Catholic canon law for centuries.

1. I don't care how much stability they brought, both parties are being forced into a marriage that, given a free choice, neither might necessarily want. That's not consent--but then we all already know you think freedom is a bad thing.

2. Citation?
Title: Re: I think I found potential future wives
Post by: Jacob Harrison on July 31, 2018, 03:27:27 pm
1. Right it involved the consent of the families making it still consensual

2. Well under Catholic Canon law, forced marriages are grounds for annulment.

1. No, consent means the willing, uncoerced agreement of the parties involved--the people getting married. The families get fuck all to say about it, and certainly cannot consent on behalf of their children.

2. Was that true back in the halcyon days of feudalism?

1. Well it means that it wasn't a husband forcing it on bride, it was the families forcing it on both the bride and groom. These marriages brought stability.

2. Coerced marriage due to kidnapping being grounds for annulment has been part of Catholic canon law for centuries.

1. I don't care how much stability they brought, both parties are being forced into a marriage that, given a free choice, neither might necessarily want. That's not consent--but then we all already know you think freedom is a bad thing.

2. Citation?

The Catholic's Code of Canon Law is based on Gratians decree from the 12th century, indicating that the part that forbidden coerced marriages due to kidnapping was around since then.
Title: Re: I think I found potential future wives
Post by: davedan on July 31, 2018, 07:13:14 pm
What makes you think that you have a right to Beverly if she rejected you? Marriage is a matter of consent.

We have passed beyond interference with Courting. Whatever choice the fair Beverly makes is inconsequential to our matter of honour.