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Title: Tony Perkins hating on Star Wars MMO
Post by: Stormwarden on January 28, 2012, 09:09:38 pm
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/01/27/tony-perkins-star-wars-surrenders-to-gay-empire/

Because it might feature gay relationships. The MMO doesn't yet, but plans to in future patches. What kind of douchebag is it that pulls this crap, save one still struggling to be relevant. Then again, it is the FRC, which, surprise, is Douchenozzle central.
Title: Re: Tony Perkins hating on Star Wars MMO
Post by: ironbite on January 28, 2012, 09:15:23 pm
While it might not have save-sex relationships in the game itself, the players can make same-sex relationships in their roleplaying.

Ironbite-still what a douchebag.
Title: Re: Tony Perkins hating on Star Wars MMO
Post by: Shane for Wax on January 28, 2012, 09:36:45 pm
Bioware is not new to this hatred. They've had to deal with it with each game they've made.
Title: Re: Tony Perkins hating on Star Wars MMO
Post by: JohnE on January 28, 2012, 10:08:58 pm
Then good for them that they don't cave to bigotry.
Title: Re: Tony Perkins hating on Star Wars MMO
Post by: VirtualStranger on January 28, 2012, 10:48:04 pm
Then good for them that they don't cave to bigotry.

Relevant (http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/304/index/6661775&lf=8)

I will forever love David Gaider (and the rest of BioWare) for that post.
Title: Re: Tony Perkins hating on Star Wars MMO
Post by: Osama bin Bambi on January 28, 2012, 11:00:28 pm
Then good for them that they don't cave to bigotry.

Relevant (http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/304/index/6661775&lf=8)

I will forever love David Gaider (and the rest of BioWare) for that post.

Whiny poster: BAWWWW my favorite fantasy games don't reflect my heteronormative privilege!

David Gaider: It's made for everyone, not just for you, so STFU

That was an epic post on Gaider's part
Title: Re: Tony Perkins hating on Star Wars MMO
Post by: kefkaownsall on January 29, 2012, 12:36:11 am
Then good for them that they don't cave to bigotry.

Relevant (http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/304/index/6661775&lf=8)

I will forever love David Gaider (and the rest of BioWare) for that post.
Now note I'm a bioware fanboy with that said I dunno if I think their actions reflect words (same sex options were removed in ME2)
Title: Re: Tony Perkins hating on Star Wars MMO
Post by: Shano on January 29, 2012, 12:43:28 pm
They were removed both from ME1 and ME2. It is a shame undoubtedly; moreover they managed to fend off the Fox News outrage over the sex scene in 1 very well, so one wonders why couldn't they have done the same for the same sex romances...
But they will be available in ME3. The community has an issue, however, with some rumors that the implementation of the m/m gay romance might be very limited - one, albeit exclusively gay, option. I really hope that is not the case, and to hell with the icky factor straight teenaged males have about the possibility that Kaidan may not be quite heterosexual (they probably killed him off on Virmire anyway!).
Title: Re: Tony Perkins hating on Star Wars MMO
Post by: sandman on January 29, 2012, 12:45:51 pm
Um.....as long as the player base in MMOs like Star Wars and WoW is about 80% male and the characters in the game are about 55% female, there will always be same sex relationships in MMOs.....whether those involved know it or not.
Title: Re: Tony Perkins hating on Star Wars MMO
Post by: kefkaownsall on January 29, 2012, 07:09:27 pm
They were removed both from ME1 and ME2. It is a shame undoubtedly; moreover they managed to fend off the Fox News outrage over the sex scene in 1 very well, so one wonders why couldn't they have done the same for the same sex romances...
But they will be available in ME3. The community has an issue, however, with some rumors that the implementation of the m/m gay romance might be very limited - one, albeit exclusively gay, option. I really hope that is not the case, and to hell with the icky factor straight teenaged males have about the possibility that Kaidan may not be quite heterosexual (they probably killed him off on Virmire anyway!).
Bah Ashley dies
of course by ME33 most shepppards  have love interests
Title: Re: Tony Perkins hating on Star Wars MMO
Post by: Eniliad on January 30, 2012, 12:45:52 am
I'm sorry... who the fuck is Tony Perkins? Should I care?

No?

Ok.
Title: Re: Tony Perkins hating on Star Wars MMO
Post by: Jack Mann on January 30, 2012, 01:32:00 am
Enili, pal?  This is a site based around fundies saying stupid shit.  This is pretty much exactly why we're all here.  We care because it's funny.
Title: Re: Tony Perkins hating on Star Wars MMO
Post by: Shane for Wax on January 30, 2012, 02:39:22 am
They were removed both from ME1 and ME2. It is a shame undoubtedly; moreover they managed to fend off the Fox News outrage over the sex scene in 1 very well, so one wonders why couldn't they have done the same for the same sex romances...
But they will be available in ME3. The community has an issue, however, with some rumors that the implementation of the m/m gay romance might be very limited - one, albeit exclusively gay, option. I really hope that is not the case, and to hell with the icky factor straight teenaged males have about the possibility that Kaidan may not be quite heterosexual (they probably killed him off on Virmire anyway!).

Actually they were available in ME1 and 2. Liara and Kelly Chambers can both be romanced (respectively) tho Chambers doesn't count for paramour. So, you are not exactly correct.

Personally I always wanted to bump cunts with Ashley but I'm in the minority.
Title: Re: Tony Perkins hating on Star Wars MMO
Post by: Servo on January 30, 2012, 05:24:12 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKzF173GqTU
This is from when the first ME came out.

What would Fox News do if/when they found out that the ME3 will actually have same-sex relationships?  :-\
Title: Re: Tony Perkins hating on Star Wars MMO
Post by: Shane for Wax on January 30, 2012, 06:02:31 am
It really doesn't matter what they do. Bioware will not and has not caved. KOTOR, Jade Empire, Mass Effect, Dragon Age, TOR. It doesn't matter.

If anything, and as Christwire pointed out, they could've gone after Skyrim a lot more based on a variety of reasons.
Title: Re: Tony Perkins hating on Star Wars MMO
Post by: Yla on January 30, 2012, 06:07:56 am
What would Fox News do if/when they found out that the ME3 will actually have same-sex relationships?  :-\
Dragon Age (both of them) had already. And nobody gave a shit.
Title: Re: Tony Perkins hating on Star Wars MMO
Post by: Vypernight on January 30, 2012, 07:10:25 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKzF173GqTU
This is from when the first ME came out.

What would Fox News do if/when they found out that the ME3 will actually have same-sex relationships?  :-\

I wanted to punch those ladies.  The guy flat out says they are wrong and none of the content they mention is in the game (It's consensual but unfortunately in breif flashes), but they do the normal right-wing arguing method and just start squacking out fear tactics. 

When they started with that, I almost expected the guy to say, "WTF does that have to do with Mass Effect?"

Title: Re: Tony Perkins hating on Star Wars MMO
Post by: sandman on January 30, 2012, 08:18:49 am
Things that jumped out at me:

When the one anti-video game girl is asked if she ever actually played "Mass Effect," she laughs incredulously and says "no." I am reminded of an old talk show from the early 90s when they were explaining at great detail how Dungeons & Dragons was evil and corrupting and nothing more than a recruiting tool for the armies of Satan. At one point someone asked the anti-D&D crusader if he had ever actually read the rule books he was (literally) demonizing, and he replied "I don't have to read them to know they are evil." This woman is even unaware that you can choose the gender of your avatar in the game. It seems her sum total of data about "Mass Effect" comes from YouTube clips and hysterical Christian "parent" sites.

The girl at one point bemoans the progress of technology, wistfully wondering "whatever happened to Atari?" She is apparently totally unaware of the fact that Atari is still around and making games like "Daggerdale" and "The Witcher." She is using the word "Atari" to indicate the old 8-bit (not that she knows what "8-bit" means) systems in the same way someone would use the word "Kleenex" to refer to any facial tissue regardless of brand. Here you have someone crusading against modern video games without having either the slightest bit of accurate information about them or the most basic sense of context. She actually seems to think that at one point "Mass Effect" will ask the player "Do you want to have sex with the hot alien babe now?" I kept expecting her to bust out with the whole "video games make you violent and de-sensitized to other people" trope.

Quote: "Full digital nudity! Imagine!" Um, honey? There's been so much "full digital nudity" available for free on the internet with a simple Google search that it would make your head explode. Your warning against 30 seconds of side-boob in "Mass Effect" is like going on TV to warn everyone about the dangers of leaving your spent cigarette butts lying around where kids could sneak half of a filter-heavy puff when there is a guy standing 5 feet from you handing out free bricks of marijuana.

Did you catch the bit where she said, oh, hang on, let me rewind it to get the quote right...."Who is playing video games? Adolescent males, not their dads." Ah hah. Hah. Hah. Oh, wait, she's serious. Honey, I don't mean to bust your bubble, but the core video game demographic is the same core demographic that comic books have: males age 18 to 34. That's why, just like comics, they have been getting more complex ethically and narratively for more than a decade. And video game companies know that this is their core customer base. That's why they know that they can get away with charging $300+ for a system and $60+ for a game. Because their core demographic have disposable income.
Title: Re: Tony Perkins hating on Star Wars MMO
Post by: Vypernight on January 30, 2012, 08:34:14 am
I remember the Dungeons and Dragons crap (the controversy, not the game.  I love RPG's!).  My mom asked me numerous questions, handed me pamphlets warning me the dangers of devil worship and suicide. 

In all my years of playing those gamers, I don't remember us ever attempting to summon a real demon (I could never find that page in any of the books), and although I comtemplated suicide once in my life, the games had nothing to do with it.

And to think the idiots stiring this crap up say We have no sense of reality!
Title: Re: Tony Perkins hating on Star Wars MMO
Post by: kefkaownsall on January 30, 2012, 08:48:33 am
I remember the Dungeons and Dragons crap (the controversy, not the game.  I love RPG's!).  My mom asked me numerous questions, handed me pamphlets warning me the dangers of devil worship and suicide. 

In all my years of playing those gamers, I don't remember us ever attempting to summon a real demon (I could never find that page in any of the books), and although I comtemplated suicide once in my life, the games had nothing to do with it.

And to think the idiots stiring this crap up say We have no sense of reality!
I never could find the demon summoning page to be fair I never bought vile darkness
Title: Re: Tony Perkins hating on Star Wars MMO
Post by: sandman on January 30, 2012, 08:56:40 am
Heh, believe it or not, BADD (Pat Pulling's anti-D&D "organization," the acronym stands for "Bothered About Dungeons & Dragons") once released a "study" listing hundreds, perhaps thousands of "suicides by [gamers]." The vast majority of the data points were entirely un-verifiable, being listed in the study as "18 year old male, San Francisco," or "22 year old male, Des Moines," or a variation on that same structure with only the age and city changed. No names, dates, or details at all.

The weird thing was that if you accepted all of the "data points" as valid suicides by gamers, and then compared that number to the total number of gamers in the USA....you got a suicide rate well BELOW that of the normal population. According to the "study" done by one of the most historically vocal anti-D&D groups, playing D&D reduced your risk of suicide considerably.


If yer curious or just want some face-palm time, here is   BADD's Wikipedia page (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bothered_About_Dungeons_%26_Dragons) and a  decent expose on it by Michael Stackpole. (http://www.rpgstudies.net/stackpole/pulling_report.html) I don't believe that BADD has any kind of active web presence of its own anymore.
Title: Re: Tony Perkins hating on Star Wars MMO
Post by: Art Vandelay on January 30, 2012, 09:03:19 am
The girl at one point bemoans the progress of technology, wistfully wondering "whatever happened to Atari?"
So I take it she's unaware of stuff like this (http://cinemassacre.com/2007/08/22/atari-porn/)?
Title: Re: Tony Perkins hating on Star Wars MMO
Post by: Vypernight on January 30, 2012, 09:10:43 am
Yet another reason to love Stackpole!

Title: Re: Tony Perkins hating on Star Wars MMO
Post by: sandman on January 30, 2012, 09:50:05 am
You know what? When she said "whatever happened to Atari?" All I could think of was...

(http://videogamecritic.net/images/2600/custer's_revenge.png)
Title: Re: Tony Perkins hating on Star Wars MMO
Post by: Ranger_Joe on January 30, 2012, 10:20:07 am
Interesting...Most of the time when I played D&D, I was a good aligned cleric or a LG Pally. My job was to destroy evil.

WORKS OF SATANZ!
Title: Re: Tony Perkins hating on Star Wars MMO
Post by: VirtualStranger on January 30, 2012, 10:44:53 am
They were removed both from ME1 and ME2. It is a shame undoubtedly; moreover they managed to fend off the Fox News outrage over the sex scene in 1 very well, so one wonders why couldn't they have done the same for the same sex romances...
But they will be available in ME3. The community has an issue, however, with some rumors that the implementation of the m/m gay romance might be very limited - one, albeit exclusively gay, option. I really hope that is not the case, and to hell with the icky factor straight teenaged males have about the possibility that Kaidan may not be quite heterosexual (they probably killed him off on Virmire anyway!).

Actually they were available in ME1 and 2. Liara and Kelly Chambers can both be romanced (respectively) tho Chambers doesn't count for paramour. So, you are not exactly correct.

Personally I always wanted to bump cunts with Ashley but I'm in the minority.

Liara is somewhat of a cop-out, and calling Kelly a "romance" is being overly generous at best.
Title: Re: Tony Perkins hating on Star Wars MMO
Post by: Shane for Wax on January 30, 2012, 10:53:54 am
This is Fox we're talking about too.
Title: Re: Tony Perkins hating on Star Wars MMO
Post by: Askold on January 30, 2012, 11:28:19 am
Actually they were available in ME1 and 2. Liara and Kelly Chambers can both be romanced (respectively) tho Chambers doesn't count for paramour. So, you are not exactly correct.

Personally I always wanted to bump cunts with Ashley but I'm in the minority.

Liara is somewhat of a cop-out, and calling Kelly a "romance" is being overly generous at best.

Well Liara's species is weird monogendered thing so If asari don't count we have to disregard the two asari that can be romanced in ME2  but why doesn't Kelly count? None of the romances have more than some chatting between the player and NPC plus one "love-scene." (How much is shown varies and not all even imply that there was any sex.)

EDIT: I messed up the quote tags while editing.
Title: Re: Tony Perkins hating on Star Wars MMO
Post by: kefkaownsall on January 30, 2012, 12:11:59 pm

Actually they were available in ME1 and 2. Liara and Kelly Chambers can both be romanced (respectively) tho Chambers doesn't count for paramour. So, you are not exactly correct.

Personally I always wanted to bump cunts with Ashley but I'm in the minority.

Liara is somewhat of a cop-out, and calling Kelly a "romance" is being overly generous at best.

Well Liara's species is weird monogendered thing so If asari don't count we have to disregard the two asari that can be romanced in ME2  but why doesn't Kelly count? None of the romances have more than some chatting between the player and NPC plus one "love-scene." (How much is shown varies and not all even imply that there was any sex.)
if you romance Kelly you dont get the achievement which implies it was an afterthought.  I'll check in Me3
Title: Re: Tony Perkins hating on Star Wars MMO
Post by: e13 on January 30, 2012, 02:02:09 pm
Interesting...Most of the time when I played D&D, I was a good aligned cleric or a LG Pally. My job was to destroy evil.

WORKS OF SATANZ!

When my brother and I started playing TSR's "dragon strike," our mom apparently had worries. She handled them rationally, however, and simply asked to play a game with us. Excited to have TWO warriors with which to battle evil, we proceeded to play a two person adventure, killed some dragons and battled an evil wizard.

She didn't care for the game, but didn't worry about us and D&D or its affiliates since.
Title: Re: Tony Perkins hating on Star Wars MMO
Post by: e13 on January 30, 2012, 02:07:30 pm
Actually they were available in ME1 and 2. Liara and Kelly Chambers can both be romanced (respectively) tho Chambers doesn't count for paramour. So, you are not exactly correct.

Personally I always wanted to bump cunts with Ashley but I'm in the minority.

Liara is somewhat of a cop-out, and calling Kelly a "romance" is being overly generous at best.

Well Liara's species is weird monogendered thing so If asari don't count we have to disregard the two asari that can be romanced in ME2  but why doesn't Kelly count? None of the romances have more than some chatting between the player and NPC plus one "love-scene." (How much is shown varies and not all even imply that there was any sex.)

EDIT: I messed up the quote tags while editing.
Ummm... what asari can you romance in ME 2? I know you can "score" with someone other than Liara, but the Justicar is off limits. For lots of reasons.
Title: Re: Tony Perkins hating on Star Wars MMO
Post by: MaybeNever on January 30, 2012, 02:11:18 pm
You can romance Morinth, although like all women she will lie to get you into bed, then kill and devour your corpse afterward.
Title: Re: Tony Perkins hating on Star Wars MMO
Post by: Eniliad on January 30, 2012, 02:26:07 pm
Hey guys, sorry to drag something from page 1 back into the front, but:

Enili, pal?  This is a site based around fundies saying stupid shit.  This is pretty much exactly why we're all here.  We care because it's funny.

Sorry, I wanted to answer this, because it's entirely my fault. I wrote that post in one way, but it was very easily interpreted as another and I can see how that happened. No, I'm not trying to bash you guys for making fun of a fundie. Trust me, if I can consider youtube comments on the main page a valid thing to mock, then anyone's fair game.

No, I wanted to make that post in more of a "I'm sorry, who the hell does this person think he is?" kind of way, as if the name "Tony Perkins" is somehow relevant to the world at large... it's really not. I'm bashing him by saying he's a nobody, not you guys for making fun of him anyway.

Anyway, sorry about the confusion. Carry on! :D
Title: Re: Tony Perkins hating on Star Wars MMO
Post by: Shane for Wax on January 30, 2012, 03:23:32 pm
Actually they were available in ME1 and 2. Liara and Kelly Chambers can both be romanced (respectively) tho Chambers doesn't count for paramour. So, you are not exactly correct.

Personally I always wanted to bump cunts with Ashley but I'm in the minority.

Liara is somewhat of a cop-out, and calling Kelly a "romance" is being overly generous at best.

Well Liara's species is weird monogendered thing so If asari don't count we have to disregard the two asari that can be romanced in ME2  but why doesn't Kelly count? None of the romances have more than some chatting between the player and NPC plus one "love-scene." (How much is shown varies and not all even imply that there was any sex.)

EDIT: I messed up the quote tags while editing.

Kelly counts to me. But as I said, you don't get the paramour achievement so people don't count it.

Here are the same-sex options in the first two:
Liara for female/female (http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Liara_T%27Soni)
Morinth, female/female but as mentioned you die (http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Morinth#Romance)
Samara for female/female (http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Samara#Romance)
Kelly for female/female (http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Kelly_Chambers)

But I suppose female/female are more palatable for fundies than male/male.
Title: Re: Tony Perkins hating on Star Wars MMO
Post by: NonProphet on January 30, 2012, 05:08:23 pm
Uh, there are male/male options in ME1 & 2, also. Just sayin'.
Title: Re: Tony Perkins hating on Star Wars MMO
Post by: Shano on January 30, 2012, 06:51:15 pm
Uh, there are male/male options in ME1 & 2, also. Just sayin'.

Care to elaborate? Save editing doesn't count.
Title: Re: Tony Perkins hating on Star Wars MMO
Post by: Witchyjoshy on January 30, 2012, 08:12:44 pm
Uh, there are male/male options in ME1 & 2, also. Just sayin'.

I'd love to hear them.
Title: Re: Tony Perkins hating on Star Wars MMO
Post by: Shane for Wax on January 30, 2012, 08:47:26 pm
Uh, there are male/male options in ME1 & 2, also. Just sayin'.

I looked as hard as I could and couldn't find any that were not fan-scripted.
Title: Re: Tony Perkins hating on Star Wars MMO
Post by: nickiknack on January 30, 2012, 11:48:59 pm
You know what? When she said "whatever happened to Atari?" All I could think of was...

(http://videogamecritic.net/images/2600/custer's_revenge.png)

Isn't that Custer's Revenge?? I never payed it, but I've read about it-thank you Cracked.
Title: Re: Tony Perkins hating on Star Wars MMO
Post by: Da Rat Bastid on January 30, 2012, 11:54:51 pm
It is, indeed.  Never had the "pleasure" of playing it, though.
Title: Re: Tony Perkins hating on Star Wars MMO
Post by: Stormwarden on January 31, 2012, 04:30:59 am
Never played Custer's Revenge. Did have the displeasure of playing ET on the Atari as a kid. It sucked as much as everyone else says it did.

Damn I feel old.
Title: Re: Tony Perkins hating on Star Wars MMO
Post by: Askold on January 31, 2012, 04:40:26 am
I checked the Mass effect wiki and ME3 is going to have same-sex romance options for both genders.
Title: Re: Tony Perkins hating on Star Wars MMO
Post by: erictheblue on January 31, 2012, 07:15:31 am
Never played Custer's Revenge. Did have the displeasure of playing ET on the Atari as a kid. It sucked as much as everyone else says it did.

I also played it and thought it was fun. Years later, when I heard about burying copies of the game in the desert, I thought it was a joke. "After all," I thought, "the game wasn't THAT bad. There were worse."
Title: Re: Tony Perkins hating on Star Wars MMO
Post by: Shane for Wax on January 31, 2012, 09:59:35 am
I found Custer's Revenge thru a top 10 on GamesRadar about most violent games or something or another.
Title: Re: Tony Perkins hating on Star Wars MMO
Post by: TheL on January 31, 2012, 10:05:47 am
Never played Custer's Revenge. Did have the displeasure of playing ET on the Atari as a kid. It sucked as much as everyone else says it did.

I also played it and thought it was fun. Years later, when I heard about burying copies of the game in the desert, I thought it was a joke. "After all," I thought, "the game wasn't THAT bad. There were worse."

Like Custer's Revenge! :D
Title: Re: Tony Perkins hating on Star Wars MMO
Post by: Damen on January 31, 2012, 10:12:01 am
Never played Custer's Revenge. Did have the displeasure of playing ET on the Atari as a kid. It sucked as much as everyone else says it did.

Damn I feel old.

I'm right there with you, but there are some things that I have a special hatred (http://www.joystickdivision.com/8-bit-games-real-life-2.jpg) for.
Title: Re: Tony Perkins hating on Star Wars MMO
Post by: nickiknack on January 31, 2012, 04:11:35 pm

I'm right there with you, but there are some things that I have a special hatred (http://www.joystickdivision.com/8-bit-games-real-life-2.jpg) for.

Ahhh, Duck Hunt...my old fave, it's a shame one wasn't able to shoot that fucking annoying dog.
Title: Re: Tony Perkins hating on Star Wars MMO
Post by: kefkaownsall on January 31, 2012, 07:28:49 pm
I checked the Mass effect wiki and ME3 is going to have same-sex romance options for both genders.
Too bad 90% of sheppard's hhave an LI
Title: Re: Tony Perkins hating on Star Wars MMO
Post by: Da Rat Bastid on January 31, 2012, 10:56:42 pm
My Paragon female Sheperd won't be one of them, however.  She is currently single specifically because, when ME3 is released and I get a copy, I fully intend for her to fall in love with Jack. :)

*aside glance to the Mass Effect players here* For the last two years, Jack has been hetero-only.

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-WfkFPJPEWXc/TbAwnNIUBcI/AAAAAAAAAY8/dowc0XInBbM/s320/OpoQQ.jpg)
Title: Re: Tony Perkins hating on Star Wars MMO
Post by: Servo on February 01, 2012, 12:36:00 am
*aside glance to the Mass Effect players here* For the last two years, Jack has been hetero-only.

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-WfkFPJPEWXc/TbAwnNIUBcI/AAAAAAAAAY8/dowc0XInBbM/s320/OpoQQ.jpg)

I just remembered that Jack died during my suicide mission playthorugh.  :(
Title: Re: Tony Perkins hating on Star Wars MMO
Post by: VirtualStranger on February 01, 2012, 12:39:33 am
Jack was the most egregious example of the lack of same-sex relationships in that game. For Christ's sake, at one point in the game, she explicitly states that she has slept with women before. There was no reason for her to be hetero-only.
Title: Re: Tony Perkins hating on Star Wars MMO
Post by: kefkaownsall on February 01, 2012, 12:43:11 am
Jack was the most egregious example of the lack of same-sex relationships in that game. For Christ's sake, at one point in the game, she explicitly states that she has slept with women before. There was no reason for her to be hetero-only.

In the first ME2 draft...she's still straight
It's miranda and Thane who were supposed to be bi
although we all would prefer riding Garrus
Title: Re: Tony Perkins hating on Star Wars MMO
Post by: Shane for Wax on February 01, 2012, 12:43:48 am
Sure is spoiler-y in here.
Title: Re: Tony Perkins hating on Star Wars MMO
Post by: kefkaownsall on February 01, 2012, 12:45:14 am
Sure is spoiler-y in here.
Want us to edit although with ME3 out i dunno how much is common or not
Title: Re: Tony Perkins hating on Star Wars MMO
Post by: Cerim Treascair on February 01, 2012, 12:51:48 am
Am I the only one that was annoyed that I couldn't get with Wrex or Garrus in ME 1?
Title: Re: Tony Perkins hating on Star Wars MMO
Post by: Askold on February 01, 2012, 01:38:30 am
Am I the only one that was annoyed that I couldn't get with Wrex or Garrus in ME 1?
No.

Although Wrex would probably crush Shepard by accident.

(click to show/hide)

While we are on the subject now that this new forum has these fancy new function like SPOILER use it please.
Title: Re: Tony Perkins hating on Star Wars MMO
Post by: Da Rat Bastid on February 01, 2012, 02:12:10 am
Am I the only one that was annoyed that I couldn't get with Wrex or Garrus in ME 1?

No.  Wrex isn't really my type, but Garrus is so wonderfully adorkable.  Were I in Sheperd's place, I'd gladly hook up with him.  Speaking of which...

although we all would prefer riding Garrus

Skipping straight to the tie-breaker, eh? ;)
Title: Re: Tony Perkins hating on Star Wars MMO
Post by: Shane for Wax on February 01, 2012, 02:29:49 am
Sure is spoiler-y in here.
Want us to edit although with ME3 out i dunno how much is common or not

Nah. I just hope people realize there may be ME2 spoilers in here.
Title: Re: Tony Perkins hating on Star Wars MMO
Post by: Eniliad on February 01, 2012, 03:19:50 am
As someone who never played any ME games, Shane, I can assure you this isn' t much of a spoiler. I have no fucking clue who any of these people are, and as a result, I wouldn't remember by the time I bought the game anyway.
Title: Re: Tony Perkins hating on Star Wars MMO
Post by: Shane for Wax on February 02, 2012, 06:25:41 am
As someone who never played any ME games, Shane, I can assure you this isn' t much of a spoiler. I have no fucking clue who any of these people are, and as a result, I wouldn't remember by the time I bought the game anyway.

Ah, I can remember, that's why.
Title: Re: Tony Perkins hating on Star Wars MMO
Post by: SCarpelan on February 02, 2012, 07:32:50 am
Never played Custer's Revenge. Did have the displeasure of playing ET on the Atari as a kid. It sucked as much as everyone else says it did.

I also played it and thought it was fun. Years later, when I heard about burying copies of the game in the desert, I thought it was a joke. "After all," I thought, "the game wasn't THAT bad. There were worse."
If I recall right burying the copies wasn't only because the game was bad: they also had made more copies of the game than there were Atari consoles.
Title: Re: Tony Perkins hating on Star Wars MMO
Post by: sandman on February 02, 2012, 09:01:30 am
Heh, yeah, I remember that. Some Atari executive tried to blame it on a misplaced decimal point in the production department, resulting in them making ten times the number of cartridges they had intended to. When it was pointed out that everyone who owns an Atari (or the JC Penny knock-off) would have to buy 2.1 of them to sell all the copies, he just seemed confused, like he didn't understand what that meant. I do believe they fired his ass.