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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #2715 on: February 20, 2014, 01:27:28 am »

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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #2716 on: February 20, 2014, 01:31:03 am »
Umm, men of color are more likely to be sent to prison because of unequal treatment in the criminal justice system. Where'd that person get "heterosexual white men" from? And that's not including trans women who get sent to male prison. Epic intersectionality fail.
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #2717 on: February 20, 2014, 07:59:41 am »
Well, when your particular clique (speaking solely of SJWs, not reasonable SJAs...yes, there is a distinction) takes the Eric Cartman route to dealing with oppression, then these things are, unfortunately, to be expected.
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #2718 on: February 21, 2014, 02:20:11 pm »
Umm, men of color are more likely to be sent to prison because of unequal treatment in the criminal justice system. Where'd that person get "heterosexual white men" from? And that's not including trans women who get sent to male prison. Epic intersectionality fail.

Because in the event white guys ARE sent to jail, they will find themselves vastly outnumbered by minorities. Which obviously will make white guys feel the same as minorities do outside prison. Or some shit. It isn't like there's a reason to be nervous in general in prison, since no one there is at all likely to be dangerous in any way.
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #2719 on: February 21, 2014, 09:36:15 pm »
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Today my academic advisor told me I “can’t expect anyone to listen to me if I didn’t do the reading”

THE READING.

OH NO I NEED TO READ THE WHITE MAN’S WORDS OR ELSE NOTHING I SAY MEANS ANYTHING! I SHOULD KNOW BETTER THAN TO THINK MY THOUGHTS ARE VALID BECAUSE A WOCS THOUGHTS DONT MEAN SHIT WHEN A WHITE MAN “WROTE A BOOK”

Fucking college.

I don’t know why academic has this reputation of being so concerned with justice. Academia is NOT concerned with justice or activism. They silence WOC like myself pretty much every day just because we have opinions that don’t “relate” to the text.

Fuck the text. I don’t need to read the text to get an A. And fuck it, I don’t even care about grades. I don’t even want a degree anymore. I just want to be heard.

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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #2720 on: February 21, 2014, 10:28:58 pm »
Umm, men of color are more likely to be sent to prison because of unequal treatment in the criminal justice system. Where'd that person get "heterosexual white men" from? And that's not including trans women who get sent to male prison. Epic intersectionality fail.

Because in the event white guys ARE sent to jail, they will find themselves vastly outnumbered by minorities. Which obviously will make white guys feel the same as minorities do outside prison. Or some shit. It isn't like there's a reason to be nervous in general in prison, since no one there is at all likely to be dangerous in any way.

Eh, depends on where you're sent.  If you go to a prison that forms gangs/has gang members in it, you're probably going to have a pretty shitty time, regardless of race.
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #2721 on: February 22, 2014, 12:29:56 am »
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Today my academic advisor told me I “can’t expect anyone to listen to me if I didn’t do the reading”

THE READING.

OH NO I NEED TO READ THE WHITE MAN’S WORDS OR ELSE NOTHING I SAY MEANS ANYTHING! I SHOULD KNOW BETTER THAN TO THINK MY THOUGHTS ARE VALID BECAUSE A WOCS THOUGHTS DONT MEAN SHIT WHEN A WHITE MAN “WROTE A BOOK”

Fucking college.

I don’t know why academic has this reputation of being so concerned with justice. Academia is NOT concerned with justice or activism. They silence WOC like myself pretty much every day just because we have opinions that don’t “relate” to the text.

Fuck the text. I don’t need to read the text to get an A. And fuck it, I don’t even care about grades. I don’t even want a degree anymore. I just want to be heard.

It gets even better.  NOTE:  The tumblr linked is not the OP, but someone responding to her.

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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #2722 on: February 22, 2014, 12:43:11 am »
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Today my academic advisor told me I “can’t expect anyone to listen to me if I didn’t do the reading”

THE READING.

OH NO I NEED TO READ THE WHITE MAN’S WORDS OR ELSE NOTHING I SAY MEANS ANYTHING! I SHOULD KNOW BETTER THAN TO THINK MY THOUGHTS ARE VALID BECAUSE A WOCS THOUGHTS DONT MEAN SHIT WHEN A WHITE MAN “WROTE A BOOK”

Fucking college.

I don’t know why academic has this reputation of being so concerned with justice. Academia is NOT concerned with justice or activism. They silence WOC like myself pretty much every day just because we have opinions that don’t “relate” to the text.

Fuck the text. I don’t need to read the text to get an A. And fuck it, I don’t even care about grades. I don’t even want a degree anymore. I just want to be heard.

It gets even better.  NOTE:  The tumblr linked is not the OP, but someone responding to her.

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Also, inb4 "internalized racism" or some other bullshit justification for why this gal thinks she doesn't have to listen to the response.
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #2723 on: February 22, 2014, 12:56:19 am »
Oh my ungod...

Same tumblr, on how everything is problematic

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Game of Thrones

- encourages us all to hate strong women like Cersei
- mostly centers around white people
- glorifies rape and pedophilia
- misgenders Brienne of Tarth, who is genderfluid
- fetishizes gay men
- dehumanizes sex workers
- unrealistic depiction of dothraki
- fails to address atrocities of colonization (Daenerys)
- glorifies cultural appropriation (Daenerys)

I'm not sure what it even means to say that the depiction of a made-up people is unrealistic. I'm not sure I want to find out.

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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #2724 on: February 22, 2014, 12:59:00 am »
Uh...what the fuck are dothraki/Daenerys?  Is that something that I would only understand if I actually watched/gave two shits about the show?
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #2725 on: February 22, 2014, 01:01:13 am »
Uh...what the fuck are dothraki/Daenerys?  Is that something that I would only understand if I actually watched/gave two shits about the show?
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #2726 on: February 22, 2014, 01:05:46 am »
Spoilers, I guess:

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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #2727 on: February 22, 2014, 01:29:59 am »
As far as "cultural appropriation" weirdos are concerned, it's wrong to EVER accept or use ANYTHING from another culture. They tend to treat individual cultures (predominately non-white ones, funny enough) as sacred cows, never to be touched by anyone but their rightful owners.

Considering that most of them are American, I wonder if they ever considered how different their lives would be if all aspects of foreign culture were erased from the United States.

.....nah, they didn't.
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #2728 on: February 22, 2014, 01:41:57 am »
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Today my academic advisor told me I “can’t expect anyone to listen to me if I didn’t do the reading”

THE READING.

OH NO I NEED TO READ THE WHITE MAN’S WORDS OR ELSE NOTHING I SAY MEANS ANYTHING! I SHOULD KNOW BETTER THAN TO THINK MY THOUGHTS ARE VALID BECAUSE A WOCS THOUGHTS DONT MEAN SHIT WHEN A WHITE MAN “WROTE A BOOK”

Christ forbid you understand the subject of the tutorial. Presumably anything written by someone studied in university is so self-evidently false you don't even need to understand it to know it's wrong.

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Game of Thrones

- encourages us all to hate strong women like Cersei

Or like Danaeris, or like Catelyn, or like Margaery, or like Arya, or above all Brienne!

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- mostly centers around white people

That's fantasy for you.

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- glorifies rape and pedophilia

Totally, utterly untrue. Did you bother to read the books?

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- misgenders Brienne of Tarth, who is genderfluid

Says you!

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- fetishizes gay men

Bullshit.

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- dehumanizes sex workers

The opposite is true, so you were close.

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- unrealistic depiction of dothraki

"Unrealistic" in what sense?

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- fails to address atrocities of colonization (Daenerys)

Totally wrong. Read Dance of Dragons, please.

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- glorifies cultural appropriation (Daenerys)

Bullshit!
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #2729 on: February 22, 2014, 01:48:30 am »
By the way, I went to the Tumblr of that chick whining about white guys writing books (angryroguescholar). Here's how she describes herself:

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WOC. 20. Sociology major. Anti-racist. Feminist. Mentally ill. DFAB Genderqueer. Pansexual. Sommalier of white tears.

She sure as hell ain't anti-racist, is probably a radical feminist, and I have no clue how you can call yourself "designated-female-at-birth genderqueer" and a "woman of color" simultaneously.
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