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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #4080 on: July 07, 2014, 06:21:03 pm »
I have some safe, good outlets for my odd impulses, and I can safely say Joff is definitely a sexual sadist. He looked like he was LOVING that whore vs. whore combat.

Definitely aromantic - he really could not care less for romance.

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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #4081 on: July 07, 2014, 08:43:53 pm »


Literally all of Westeros is queer.

....oh my god.  They're right about the Tyrells though.  That whole fucking family is queer.  But everyone else?  Oh gods just...stop.

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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #4082 on: July 07, 2014, 08:47:39 pm »
Well to me, Joffrey watching Ros torture Daisy with that stag-head mace seemed more like a sports fan watching his favorite team repeatedly score on the opposition than a sadomasochistic voyeur getting turned on by the violence.

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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #4083 on: July 07, 2014, 10:03:15 pm »
I have some safe, good outlets for my odd impulses, and I can safely say Joff is definitely a sexual sadist. He looked like he was LOVING that whore vs. whore combat.

He's definitely a sadist, though it's debatable whether it's sexual. He never seemed particular interested in sex or physically pleasuring himself, just causing pain to others. Calling that "asexual", however, feels a bit like calling otherwise straight dudes who rape other dudes in prison "bisexual".

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Definitely aromantic - he really could not care less for romance.

Eh, he's a sadistic psychopath. A lack of romance is just the tip of the iceberg.
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #4084 on: July 08, 2014, 12:07:02 am »
I've started to grow tired of the headcanon thing. It's already a bit iffy to try and declare an author's interpretation of their own work invalid because you don't want to believe it, but fans (surprise surprise, especially the ones on Tumblr) are starting to try and turn their headcanon into actual canon in their own view. They make their own interpretation, declare it official as far as they're concerned, and become upset when it's not true.

Take the Destiel fandom. Shipping Dean Winchester and Castiel is okay on its own, but a lot of Destiel shippers have been crying foul and claiming that the show is "queer baiting" for intentionally incorporating homoerotic subtext recently and not acting on it.

Guys, they're making fun of you. The writers are totally aware of the Destiel ship and how nutty its fanbase is, and are intentionally throwing in references to the ship to screw with the shippers. But the headcanon-loving fans don't get it because in their minds, Dean and Castiel are canonically in love and the writers are afraid to incorporate homosexual or bisexual protagonists.
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #4085 on: July 08, 2014, 01:06:59 am »
It's fine to have a personal interpretation of a show though.
You just have to accept that it will always be fairly silly.

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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #4086 on: July 08, 2014, 02:07:42 am »
I've started to grow tired of the headcanon thing. It's already a bit iffy to try and declare an author's interpretation of their own work invalid because you don't want to believe it, but fans (surprise surprise, especially the ones on Tumblr) are starting to try and turn their headcanon into actual canon in their own view. They make their own interpretation, declare it official as far as they're concerned, and become upset when it's not true.

Take the Destiel fandom. Shipping Dean Winchester and Castiel is okay on its own, but a lot of Destiel shippers have been crying foul and claiming that the show is "queer baiting" for intentionally incorporating homoerotic subtext recently and not acting on it.

Guys, they're making fun of you. The writers are totally aware of the Destiel ship and how nutty its fanbase is, and are intentionally throwing in references to the ship to screw with the shippers. But the headcanon-loving fans don't get it because in their minds, Dean and Castiel are canonically in love and the writers are afraid to incorporate homosexual or bisexual protagonists.

It gets even worse when you come across essays dedicated to saying "all of your headcanons are valid because fiction isn't real, so you can't argue against something because it goes against the rules, because there are no rules".  I've seen exactly this done in response to people trying to justify problematic elements in fiction using canon, so they're basically the opposite of the extreme: "Oh, you say Zelda can't be the hero ever because canon says she always has to be the damsel?  Well, canon doesn't matter at all, at any point, for anything, so fuck you, purist!"  And for those curious, yes, it was somebody claiming that Zelda canon dictates that Zelda can never be the hero that set off this anti-canon rant.

Yeah, I'm against people using canon to justify sexism or whatever, but I strongly disagree with "canon isn't real so it's impossible to go against it". 
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #4087 on: July 08, 2014, 02:25:56 am »
To be fair, the canon never even said THAT.  Somebody remembered Demise's dying curse wrong.
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #4088 on: July 08, 2014, 02:28:53 am »
They made fun of the shippers in Sherlock too. Yet people claimed it was a nod to them
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #4089 on: July 08, 2014, 03:16:21 am »
What do words like biromantic or demiromantic mean?  If it's different from sexual attraction what's the difference from a biromantic relationship and a close friendship?

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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #4090 on: July 08, 2014, 03:17:33 am »
What do words like biromantic or demiromantic mean?
It means you're the specialest little snowflake on Tumblr.

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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #4091 on: July 08, 2014, 03:30:48 am »
I'm a way specialier snowflake then them.  I'm only attracted to an asexual's gay headmate's pansexual headmate's demisexual headmate.


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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #4092 on: July 08, 2014, 03:58:33 am »
What do words like biromantic or demiromantic mean?  If it's different from sexual attraction what's the difference from a biromantic relationship and a close friendship?

Biromantic means you have a romantic attraction to people of either gender.

Demiromantic means that you can only be romantic towards people you know really well.  ... *shrug*
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #4093 on: July 08, 2014, 06:26:44 am »
Demiromantic means that you can only be romantic towards people you know really well.  ... *shrug*
So... like anyone ever?

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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #4094 on: July 08, 2014, 06:30:38 am »
Demiromantic means that you can only be romantic towards people you know really well.  ... *shrug*
So... like anyone ever?

Hence the shrug.
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