Worst of Social Justice

[Eiki-mun]

This is how many sociologists define the term racism, yes... in their papers, explicitly said such. Usually the text is something like "for the purposes of this paper, the term 'racism' will be defined as x y and z", which is all well and good as long as you're talking about that paper. But here in the world outside of that paper, we use the dictionary definition, thank you.

[TheUnknown]

The problem I sort of have with "racism=power+prejudice" is that it seems to view racism as "whites vs everyone else".  This ignores racial relations and problems between different poc.

[Sigmaleph]

The problem I sort of have with "racism=power+prejudice" is that it seems to view racism as "whites vs everyone else".  This ignores racial relations and problems between different poc.

And that white-majority societies are not the only ones in the world, and that "power" is a complex concept that doesn't strictly reduce to structural power, and probably other stuff as well.

I mean, I totally get why it's a thing. I know why people cringe preemptively every time "reverse racism" comes up, and I cringe with them. But the definition is, let's say... problematic.

[Art Vandelay]

I was eating people before it was cool.  Hell, I was eating people before there were people!

So what you're saying is that you swallow?

[Cataclysm]

[lord gibbon]

What is Mizzou, exactly?

[Eiki-mun]

The University of Missouri... where I cannot remember a terrorist attack happening.

[Askold]

Regarding the Mizzou hashtag: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2015/11/13/heres-how-the-university-of-missouri-confrontation-got-so-extreme/

Oh the horror... Someone called black person "N-word" a swastika had been made from feces and people had to resign to appease the protesters.

People on the net are already claiming that Paris attacks getting to the front page in newspapers is racist because it is meant to drown out the grievances of the black people who suffer from discrimination in USA.

...For the record, I'm not saying that the minorities in Missouri don't have real problems. It's just that this is not a contest and media making a terrorist attack that kills over a hundred people into a bigger news story than a week long hunger strike that forced someone to resign is not a sign of conspiracy to keep "POCs" out of news. (I would say that the media being so quiet about the other targets for these terrorist attacks is a sign of media preferring to talk about white/european victims and ignoring the violence in the middle east. Which is a shame because the attacks are clearly linked.)

[ironbite]

Worse then that actually.  There were arrests made of people who made credible death threats.  So yeah the protests there have been overshadowed by Paris but that's how it goes in the news media.

Ironbite-nothing racist about it.

[Askold]

Also, unless I'm confusing this with another incident, one of the protesters is from a rich family so some people are using it as proof that this protest is over nothing. Apparently the logic is: "If you are rich you can't suffer from discrimination and if you aren't a victim then you are not allowed to protest against inequality and any protest you are part of is obviously fake."

[Ultimate Paragon]

The plot thickens:

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/nov/12/payton-head-mizzou-student-body-president-apologiz/

Turns out the Mizzou student body president was spreading false rumors about a KKK threat.

[ironbite]

Also, unless I'm confusing this with another incident, one of the protesters is from a rich family so some people are using it as proof that this protest is over nothing. Apparently the logic is: "If you are rich you can't suffer from discrimination and if you aren't a victim then you are not allowed to protest against inequality and any protest you are part of is obviously fake."

Reminds me of a Russell Brand quote.



Ironbite-sums it up don't it?

[rookie]

[sarcasm]Well, he's British. What does he know about economic injustice in America? [/sarcasm]

[Ultimate Paragon]

[sarcasm]Well, he's British. What does he know about economic injustice in America? [/sarcasm]

Use blue text for sarcasm.

[Even Then]

That's... not actually a rule, is it?