Worst of Social Justice

[Ultimate Paragon]

Your example of a female coder lights a bit of fuse about an industry sector which has been plagued by over representation of dumb rude guys. Maybe change that to female astronaut, which is also a field demanding of high performance, yet is not all that notorious for having a lot of insecure nutsacs working in it.

Yeah, I've heard about that, but how common is it?  That's not a rhetorical question, I'm genuinely curious.

[rageaholic]

Honestly, that does sound like the standard cult treatment where you are made to feel like you are worthless or at least a horrible sinner and that the poor treatment you get is something that you deserve. Bonus points for how the only way for you to be a good person is by enduring that treatment and still being loyal with a promise of redemption somewhere in the future.

That's what I thought when I read it.  Here's an exert (bolding mine)

It's hard. I know how hard it is, because there are times when I've had to do it myself. Sometimes you'll find yourself feeling offended or affronted. You'll find yourself wondering why you even bother if people aren't going to acknowledge your efforts. That's your privilege talking, and you need to learn to set all of that aside if you want to do this right.

Welcome to the new world, friend. Enjoy equality!

Replace 'privilege' with 'original sin' or 'the devil' and it starts to sound like something on Catholic Answers. 

[Ultimate Paragon]

I have to wonder: have these people ever heard of femdom?

[Damen]

No you can't.

[Sigmaleph]

I have to wonder: have these people ever heard of femdom?

Yes. They say that the fact it's rarer is evidence that male dom/femsub stuff is the result of toxic social norms.


(of course, even if it was, something being the result of toxic social norms doesn't actually make it a bad thing in itself)

[niam2023]

So are they saying then that a female sub who likes that kind of rough play "just doesn't know what's good for herself" and / or "is indoctrinated to be a slave"?

[RavynousHunter]

So are they saying then that a female sub who likes that kind of rough play "just doesn't know what's good for herself" and / or "is indoctrinated to be a slave"?

Come on, Niam, you've been here long enough to know the answer to your question is yes.

[rageaholic]

On the topic of SWERFS Stop Patriarchy  From their FAQ

Bolding mine

If you are for a woman's “choice” to have an abortion, why are you against her “choice” to be in or use pornography?

We are fighting for women's liberation, not for “choice” in some abstract and individualistic sense. Frankly, it is absurd to think that every choice made by every individual woman should be defended and upheld. What if a woman chose to go out and kill a bunch of innocent people? What if she chose to do a racist comedy routine? Those are not choices that we would uphold or defend. In evaluating any behavior, the most important thing is not whether the individual genuinely chose it, but what is its social effect?

Arson, Murder, And Racist Comedy?

[Dakota Bob]

I love how they put murder and offensive comedy together, as if they're the same level of bad.

[RavynousHunter]

To these knob goblins, they are one and the same.

[pyro]

Okay, I bite, how does a woman using porn contribute to male-favoring norms?

[RavynousHunter]

Okay, I bite, how does a woman using porn contribute to male-favoring norms?

Consumption of pornography, to them, feeds ad revenue (amongst other things) into an industry that they feel is exploitative and degrading towards women.  Whether or not this is true is up for debate, barring some kind of large-scale study by a group that doesn't have its head up its ass, of course.  But, essentially, they feel that, by consuming typical (straight, cis, PIV, etc) pornography, women are ingraining the idea of male supremacy since, in a lot of porn, it could be argued that the male is seen as dominant.

[Tolpuddle Martyr]

On the topic of SWERFS Stop Patriarchy  From their FAQ

Bolding mine

If you are for a woman's “choice” to have an abortion, why are you against her “choice” to be in or use pornography?

We are fighting for women's liberation, not for “choice” in some abstract and individualistic sense.

That's the Bush Jr version of "liberation" isn't it, as in "liberating Iraq"?

[RavynousHunter]

Basically, you're free to choose, so long as its something we like.

[rookie]

According to Mrs. Rookie, it's the freedom to make "the right" choice.