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Re: National Elections Thread
« Reply #450 on: October 29, 2016, 09:52:13 am »
S'what happens when your only real measure of fitness to lead a country is simple popularity.
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Re: National Elections Thread
« Reply #451 on: October 29, 2016, 11:04:03 am »
...Sanders is a racist?

No wait, you obviously meant that he is also a GOP candidate, how silly of me to think otherwise.
No, what I'm saying is all these people said that due to the fact that they had more people at their rallies, they were winning, which as the 2012 Presidential Election and the 2016 Democratic Primaries show, they lost.

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Re: National Elections Thread
« Reply #452 on: October 29, 2016, 01:44:50 pm »
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Re: National Elections Thread
« Reply #453 on: October 30, 2016, 02:49:07 am »
http://iowapublicradio.org/post/des-moines-woman-says-she-voted-twice-trump-because-polls-are-rigged#stream/0

Funnily enough this proves not only how rare voter fraud is but also that getting away with it is not as easy as the GOP claims it to be.
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Re: National Elections Thread
« Reply #454 on: October 30, 2016, 03:14:53 am »
http://iowapublicradio.org/post/des-moines-woman-says-she-voted-twice-trump-because-polls-are-rigged#stream/0

Funnily enough this proves not only how rare voter fraud is but also that getting away with it is not as easy as the GOP claims it to be.

But how else will we keep the niggers and spics from voting?
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Re: National Elections Thread
« Reply #455 on: October 30, 2016, 04:15:38 am »
A black Trump supporter tried to get close enough to him to give him a note with a supporting message. Trump called him a thug and had him thrown out without bothering to hear what he tried to say.

I guess this story should be funny but it's telling that it's not that anymore, at least not for me. It's exactly what I would expect to happen in such a case and has lost most of its humour value.

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Re: National Elections Thread
« Reply #456 on: October 30, 2016, 05:22:55 am »
This should be fun. The alleged emails James Comey suggests were under investigation weren't...

...because they haven't actually obtained a warrant so FBI officials had to admit they had no idea what was in them.

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Yahoo News reporter Michael Isikoff attempted to question FBI officials about the contents of the emails alluded to by Director James Comey on Friday, but found that the officials themselves have yet to view the emails. So far, they’ve been unable to obtain legal authorization to do so.

An official told Isikoff that Comey “had no idea what was in the content of the emails” when he sent his letter to Congress on Friday advising them that he is reviewing new materials that may prove pertinent to the investigation against Clinton.

Shit eh?

Look I'm an Aussie and US laws and politics baffle me at the best of times but shouldn't you make public announcements that you are investigating the dastardly doings of Democrats after you've actually, you know, started the investigation? Is this standard practice in the US of A?
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Re: National Elections Thread
« Reply #457 on: October 30, 2016, 05:29:50 am »
This should be fun. The alleged emails James Comey suggests were under investigation weren't...

...because they haven't actually obtained a warrant so FBI officials had to admit they had no idea what was in them.

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Yahoo News reporter Michael Isikoff attempted to question FBI officials about the contents of the emails alluded to by Director James Comey on Friday, but found that the officials themselves have yet to view the emails. So far, they’ve been unable to obtain legal authorization to do so.

An official told Isikoff that Comey “had no idea what was in the content of the emails” when he sent his letter to Congress on Friday advising them that he is reviewing new materials that may prove pertinent to the investigation against Clinton.

Shit eh?

Look I'm an Aussie and US laws and politics baffle me at the best of times but shouldn't you make public announcements that you are investigating the dastardly doings of Democrats after you've actually, you know, started the investigation? Is this standard practice in the US of A?

My understanding: Comey was required by law to inform Congress (or at least various Congressional committee chairs, some of whom would promptly have leaked the info to the public anyway, being Republicans) that there was potentially more information in their investigation of Clinton. This is because he had previously told them they'd exhausted all information available to them and, once these e-mails turned up, they knew that was no longer true (since they knew the e-mails likely concerned Clinton even if they didn't know their content). Thus, Congress had to be informed that what Comey had previously told them was no longer true.

Keep in mind that Comey is a very letter-of-the-law guy. He's not FBI Director because he's friendly to the Obama administration. He's FBI Director because Obama decided to reward him for having a conscience and standing up to Bush, Cheney et al and telling them that he'd do what the law required him to do when they told him to do something blatantly illegal when he was filling in for Ashcroft as Attorney General while the latter was in hospital.
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Re: National Elections Thread
« Reply #458 on: October 30, 2016, 08:45:36 am »
If you're following the letter does it require you to announce your criminal investigation before the court has given you leave to proceed with a warrant? Seems like jumping the gun a bit to me.

Also I don't know how you can be legally required to give potential information, that's asking you to speculate before the facts are in - at best.
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Re: National Elections Thread
« Reply #459 on: October 30, 2016, 10:33:06 am »
The media speculates. The right wing machine hears Hillary Clinton and emails and starts to froth at the mouth.
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Re: National Elections Thread
« Reply #460 on: October 30, 2016, 04:49:36 pm »
If you're following the letter does it require you to announce your criminal investigation before the court has given you leave to proceed with a warrant? Seems like jumping the gun a bit to me.

Also I don't know how you can be legally required to give potential information, that's asking you to speculate before the facts are in - at best.
Applying for the warrant is continuing the investigation so he probably had to tell congress he was doing that.

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Re: National Elections Thread
« Reply #461 on: October 30, 2016, 06:59:03 pm »
Yeah, but he hasn't applied for a warrant.  He's alluded to the contents off the emails before taking that most basic of steps. At best it's niave, at worst it's throwing Trump's flailing campaign a lifeline.

Scratch that, the FBI is in the process of applying for a warrant. Still, he should have told the public that the FBI didn't actually know what was in the emails or, if they did that they obtained that information sans warrant. They haven't done this.
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Re: National Elections Thread
« Reply #462 on: October 30, 2016, 09:27:30 pm »
http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/clinton-fbi-emails-comey-details-1.3828341

They've obtained the warrant. Meanwhile, Harry Reid is saying Comey may have violated the Hatch Act, which bars the use of federal government positions to influence elections.
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Re: National Elections Thread
« Reply #463 on: October 31, 2016, 03:33:13 am »
And a more serious concern then whatever is in the emails.

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Re: National Elections Thread
« Reply #464 on: October 31, 2016, 03:53:38 am »
If its true he violated the Hatch Act, then any remaining only sane man among Bush Administration goons cards Comey had vanish in flames.
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