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Re: Rick Santorum Says the Darndest Things...
« Reply #120 on: March 04, 2012, 02:17:25 am »
Yeah too bad he doesn't actually HAVE that power.

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Re: Rick Santorum Says the Darndest Things...
« Reply #121 on: March 04, 2012, 09:38:12 am »
His victory is eventual, and when it is confirmed, the praise for Mister Santorum will pour out of the media like great chocolate rain.

Indeed, and he's even got the perfect music to play during his victory celebration. :)

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Re: Rick Santorum Says the Darndest Things...
« Reply #122 on: March 04, 2012, 10:04:28 am »
His victory is eventual, and when it is confirmed, the praise for Mister Santorum will pour out of the media like great chocolate rain.

Indeed, and he's even got the perfect music to play during his victory celebration. :)

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwTZ2xpQwpA" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwTZ2xpQwpA</a>

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It just... seemed so appropriate with the comment, what with the "eternal chaos" and all.
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Re: Rick Santorum Says the Darndest Things...
« Reply #123 on: March 04, 2012, 11:10:52 am »
Because if you nullify people's marriages, they will stop being gay.
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Re: Rick Santorum Says the Darndest Things...
« Reply #124 on: March 10, 2012, 12:58:31 am »
Rick Santorum really really doesn't like women

No really.  Way back in 1990, when he was running for the Senate.  And he had some interesting words and ideas for the newly-created single mother class that the GOP of the time wanted to target.

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During his first U.S. Senate campaign in 1994, Santorum made unwed mothers and welfare reform regular features of his stump speech. Recently, Mother Jones reported that the candidate had once argued that single mothers were "breeding more criminals" and advocated that they should be denied welfare benefits if they refused to identify the child's father.

The Huffington Post obtained transcripts of Santorum's comments and speeches from various campaign stops in 1994, which show just how far Santorum was willing to go with his proposals. Produced for the then-Sen. Harris Wofford's campaign, the video and audio transcripts show that the Pennsylvania Republican was willing to deny unwed mothers government services until they revealed private family information.

Under the plan, those unwed mothers would have to reveal the name of their child’s father in exchange for welfare and subsidized medical care. What was once the domain of private labs, family courts, and Maury Povich would become the domain of the government.

"What we say is that in order for Mom to be able to go on welfare if she has a child out of wedlock, you have to tell us who the father is," Santorum said at an event in Carlisle, Pa., on April 1, 1994. "If you don't tell us who the father is, you're not eligible for any welfare benefits, none, not even medical care. You tell us who the father is or you don't receive benefits."

So basically, Santorum wanted to have unwed single mothers reveal who the father was.  Of course now if they were raped or were being threatened by the father didn't even seem to enter into this morons mind.

Ironbite-so glad after this election he'll be a non-entity.

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Re: Rick Santorum Says the Darndest Things...
« Reply #125 on: March 10, 2012, 04:42:49 pm »
And they all claim Santorum was the father...
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Re: Rick Santorum Says the Darndest Things...
« Reply #126 on: March 12, 2012, 08:09:18 pm »
Ol' Frothy hates animals

Well really just the ones we've nearly hunted to extinction anyways.

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Rick Santorum accused his rivals Monday of having "a truly radical environmental agenda" and putting "critters above people."

“What we have seen under this administration is a truly radical environmental agenda,” Santorum said in response to a question at the Gulf Coast Energy Summit in Biloxi, Mississipi.

He also attacked Newt Gingrich, apparently a fan of wild animals, for supporting the Endangered Species Act.

"There are so many places that we put critters above people," Santorum said. "It’s a radical ideology that says we are here to serve the Earth instead of man having dominion over the Earth to serve him and to be a good steward of that Earth.”

The short-sightedness of this man is amazing.  Is he not aware that there is a certain balance and humanity has thrown that balance out of wack?  Or is he just that stupid?

Ironbite-I think we all know the answer to this...especially when he uses a Babble quote to justify his stance.

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Re: Rick Santorum Says the Darndest Things...
« Reply #127 on: March 12, 2012, 08:13:25 pm »
WHAT THE FUCK DOES HE THINK A STEWARD DOES??
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Re: Rick Santorum Says the Darndest Things...
« Reply #128 on: March 13, 2012, 12:24:38 am »
Oh Rick, you had to open your stupid mouth on abortion didn't you?  DIDN'T YOU!?

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GOP presidential candidate Rick Santorum explained his opposition to abortion even in cases of rape during an interview Friday, saying that women who face such circumstances should "make the best out of a bad situation."

Let's bold what I find this absolutely horrendous.  I'll even blow it up for you.

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saying that women who face such circumstances should "make the best out of a bad situation."

I WILL MURDER YOU YOU SON OF A FUCKING BITCH!  I WILL MURDER YOU UNTIL THERE'S NOTHING LEFT OF YOU!  EVER!

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My daughter was conceived in rape.  I have always been against abortion.  My daughter is now living with my rapist because the government determined that my having PTSD from being raped and tortured on a regular basis makes me an unfit parent but her sperm donor who raped and tortured me is a decent parent because he has a government job with good benefits. 

I do not regret having her.  She is very special.  She loves people.  If she survives this and gets away from him someday she has so much potential to do great things with her life. 

I am not even allowed to see her or talk to her anymore. 

I always wanted her no matter how she was conceived.  She will always be my baby. 
 
The government kept demanding that I say only wonderful things about her father.  There was nothing wonderful to say about him.  I chose instead not to talk about him.  The government demanded that I tell my daughter that she was conceived in love.  She had found out how she was conceived years ago and had adapted to it.  I had not told her.  I cannot pretend to really understand what it is like to know you were conceived in such a manner.  But I refused to lie to my daughter. 

The government demanded that I take 'responsibility' for the abuse he inflicted on me.  They acted as though it was just two people who couldn't get along instead of the horror that it was for me.   However, they have never once demanded that he endure any consequences for his actions.  No, all the consequences were placed on me. 

I was a child when he started abusing me.  I was a child!  A child being abused has to take responsibility for it??  What the?  How can it be the child's fault that a grown man decides to beat and rape her?

Rape victims who get pregnant and carry to term do in fact carry the risk of losing custody of the child to the rapist.  The government does not care about how the child was conceived.  The victim is victimized over and over again by the government.  The victim is punished for not wanting to be around her attacker.   Rape victims have even been court ordered to take the child to visit the 'father' in prison under threat of incarceration even while he was serving time for the rape itself!

The government is all about controlling people, especially women and children.  It's little wonder the government so often looks the other way when men beat and rape women. 

The United States is no better than many other countries where women are oppressed.  Ironic enough, many women who manage to achieve positions of power oppress others just as well as the men do.  One would think they would at least 'get it' but they do not. 

I raised my daughter different from how I was raised.  I was raised to be a submissive doormat.  Why?  Because I am female.  I was to obey adults without question (which is one of the reasons I was in the position to be raped and tortured in the first place).  My daughter was raised to have spunk and not take stuff off people.  Unfortunately, my family planted the seeds in her along the way to where she ended up being gullible and submissive without much question anyway.  I am hoping what I taught her wins out some day.  It is my fault if it doesn't.  I knew how my family was, but I kept hoping they would change.  I was so damn stupid.  My daughter at least is no where near as naive and submissive as I was growing up.  I guess at least I've given up on my family.  It is too late to matter, but at least I finally gave up on them. 

How opposed am I now to abortion?  I still am completely opposed; however, I do notice that many who are opposed to abortion are similar to the people who allowed me to be abused.  People knew he was doing those things to me and gave me reasons why it was my fault and why I should take the abuse.  How can someone possibly argue they hold the moral high ground when they will not only condone a child being raped and tortured but will blame the child for what happens to her?   I was only 16 when he started abusing me.   My daughter is almost the same age I was when this nightmare began.  They sent my girl to live with a child rapist. 

I view the left and right as two sides to the same driving force.  The issues are a facade to keep the people pitted against each other so they don't see what is really going on.  The driving force keeps the masses fooled into thinking there is really a change so that they won't realize that change is really still needed.  In the public eye the left and right fight.  Behind the scenes they gather for parties.  They plot and scheme to keep the regular people as controlled and appeased as possible. 


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Re: Rick Santorum Says the Darndest Things...
« Reply #129 on: March 13, 2012, 12:34:40 am »
Wait. Let me get this straight. You were raped, and the government... forced you to give the baby to the rapist. Under what circumstances was this?

Also, you were forced to carry the baby to term, and pay for it, and you're still against abortion? Why?

Also, while I do see quite a bit of sexism in the United States, the "government conspiracy" part of your post is giving me serious "what the futhark" vibes. The government can't keep its shit together long enough to do anything, and yet they set up the system to screw people over with clockwork precision?

This rapist isn't in jail because...?

Look, I know people do get fucked over by the system, but the sheer degree to which you claim is throwing up red flags.

Finally, I repeat myself: How can you still be against abortion after all that?
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Re: Rick Santorum Says the Darndest Things...
« Reply #130 on: March 13, 2012, 12:36:44 am »
Wait. Let me get this straight. You were raped, and the government... forced you to give the baby to the rapist. Under what circumstances was this?

Also, you were forced to carry the baby to term, and pay for it, and you're still against abortion? Why?

Also, while I do see quite a bit of sexism in the United States, the "government conspiracy" part of your post is giving me serious "what the futhark" vibes. The government can't keep its shit together long enough to do anything, and yet they set up the system to screw people over with clockwork precision?

This rapist isn't in jail because...?

Look, I know people do get fucked over by the system, but the sheer degree to which you claim is throwing up red flags.

Finally, I repeat myself: How can you still be against abortion after all that?
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Re: Rick Santorum Says the Darndest Things...
« Reply #131 on: March 13, 2012, 01:24:02 am »
I know it's possible that a rapist can be awarded custody of his or her child, but I second the "why are you against abortion" thing.

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« Reply #132 on: March 13, 2012, 01:34:21 am »
Wait. Let me get this straight. You were raped, and the government... forced you to give the baby to the rapist. Under what circumstances was this?

Also, you were forced to carry the baby to term, and pay for it, and you're still against abortion? Why?

Also, while I do see quite a bit of sexism in the United States, the "government conspiracy" part of your post is giving me serious "what the futhark" vibes. The government can't keep its shit together long enough to do anything, and yet they set up the system to screw people over with clockwork precision?

This rapist isn't in jail because...?

Look, I know people do get fucked over by the system, but the sheer degree to which you claim is throwing up red flags.

Finally, I repeat myself: How can you still be against abortion after all that?
Well, not the baby's fault.

Whether or not a "person" exists to be at fault is what needs to be asked here. It is generally accepted that the baby's brain does not fully develop into a semi-conscious state until the third trimester, when abortion is outlawed anyway (except for birth defects and medical emergencies).

Abortion is not to punish the "baby." Where the hell did you get this idea?
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Re: Rick Santorum Says the Darndest Things...
« Reply #133 on: March 13, 2012, 01:57:18 am »

Whether or not a "person" exists to be at fault is what needs to be asked here. It is generally accepted that the baby's brain does not fully develop into a semi-conscious state until the third trimester, when abortion is outlawed anyway (except for birth defects and medical emergencies).

Abortion is not to punish the "baby." Where the hell did you get this idea?

If I have to, I will link to the santorum thread where she made numerous posts.

And yes, I understand that, horrifically, it's possible for a rapist to get custody. However, I still have to question what would inspire the government to do that instead of enforcing foster care.
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Re: Rick Santorum Says the Darndest Things...
« Reply #134 on: March 13, 2012, 02:42:17 am »
Wait. Let me get this straight. You were raped, and the government... forced you to give the baby to the rapist. Under what circumstances was this?

Also, you were forced to carry the baby to term, and pay for it, and you're still against abortion? Why?

Also, while I do see quite a bit of sexism in the United States, the "government conspiracy" part of your post is giving me serious "what the futhark" vibes. The government can't keep its shit together long enough to do anything, and yet they set up the system to screw people over with clockwork precision?

This rapist isn't in jail because...?

Look, I know people do get fucked over by the system, but the sheer degree to which you claim is throwing up red flags.

Finally, I repeat myself: How can you still be against abortion after all that?

It's a long story.  I had posted about it on the other site.  He was a government employee.  He was buddies with many cops, magistrates, etc.   I wasn't even allowed to press charges against him when it started.  They were like, 'I know Kenny.  He's a nice guy.  You're lucky to have him.'  The church blamed me and kept after me to 'repent' of my sin of fornication saying I could have stopped it if I wanted to.   I was subjected to much religious abuse over it.  I had been a virgin and was saving myself for marriage.  I never wanted to have sex with him in the first place.

My daughter is almost 16 now.  I raised her for 14 1/2 years.  The government took her from me and gave her to him.  I had never even abused her.  They kept saying something 'might' happen.   My daughter was angry at me for having moved her away from her friends.  I have no idea who made what false claims.  If my daughter really did say those things, she has since recanted because she kept telling people it didn't happen.  She told me she didn't say that stuff.  We had a messed up relationship at the time she was taken.  We had been burned out of our home at one point.  She was very angry at me for a few years.  She tried to kill herself.  I found out and stopped letting her hang out with her friends as much.  I had no idea what had influenced it.  When they first took her, I thought it was over the suicide attempt, but it wasn't.  Things kept hitting me right after another.  The government worker kept claiming I told her stuff that I never said.  (At the same time she kept saying I wasn't talking to her.  Which is it?)  He was contacted and given my address.  They immediately started working towards getting my daughter to agree to live with him.  I was never given a chance to get her back.  She was even begging to come home.  They refused to let her come home.

His visitation rights had been terminated when she was a baby because he was threatening to kill us. 

Why should I want my child killed?  I would rather kill him.  He's the one who harmed me.

I chose to carry my baby.  No one forced me to do so.  I will never regret that.  I endured much pressure from people to abort her throughout my pregnancy.  And it wasn't because I was raped.  I was the only one who cared about that.  It was because of race.  My daughter is bi-racial and most of my family wanted her aborted.  After she was born, I was pressured to put her up for adoption.  Why?  Because they said she needed to be in a black home.  My family didn't want a black child in the family.  I never cared about my daughter's ethnicity.  I refused to abandon her.  I raised her by myself with little to no support from anyone. 

I have seen the government do many things to people, mostly the poor.  The poor do not have the resources to fight back.  And movements like the Tea Party are okay with the poor not having rights protected.  They pitch a fit though if someone tampers with theirs.

I am against abortion.  Rapists instead should have no parental rights to the child.  I also believe that law enforcement should be forced to bring in an outside, neutral source to investigate abuse when the law enforcement is buddies with the accused perp.  No one should be immune to prosecution just because he is buddies with the ones overseeing the investigation.