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Another embarrassment to the male gender.
« on: November 07, 2013, 01:46:18 am »
Update: GOD DAMN IT PRESS! Get the fucking photo right! Meet Michael Robertson, this dirt bag du jour is another embarrassment to the male gender.



His defense attorney, Michelle Menken.

People are getting outraged that a female attorney (wearing a skirt) is defending him. It is a common tactic to hire a female lawyer for such cases as a means of image impression. Also insert lawyer joke here because this case was willingly taken on.

This is perhaps the most pathetic oral argument in court I have ever witnessed. SJC 11353, Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court Oral Arguments, the court proceeding starts at 8:20. Embedded below is a mirrored, faster copy uploaded by myself for everyone here.
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PvlI1lMnce4" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PvlI1lMnce4</a>


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Michael Robertson is appealing to the state’s highest court saying he didn’t commit a crime when he allegedly tried to take cellphone photos up women’s dresses on the Green Line in August 2010.

That “up-skirt” case included an undercover transit cop and another T passenger. The 31-year-old now faces more than two years in jail if convicted of two counts of photographing an unsuspecting nude or partially nude person.


Here is the court docket for COMMONWEALTH vs. MICHAEL ROBERTSON, Adobe should be able to OCR all of the briefs when you try to search for text. TL:DR version of his defense is the claim that upskirt photos are not illegal and women do not have reasonable expectations of privacy. Two aspects made this case really ugly. The first is attempting tow warp this into a 1st Amendment issue as is the argument presented by the defense from page 8, 9 of Appellant Robertson Brief:



The second aspect is confounding upskirting with privacy issues pertaining to breastfeeding on page 21 - 23:

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Normally I would call such persons wild, rabid dogs but that would be an insult to wild, rabid dogs as they lack higher cognitive ability. The actions of such men occur first thus the fault is theirs alone. The immediate sociological impact demonizes men and alienates women by presenting and reinforcing a false impression. This impression is that men will predictably act in a sexually dangerous manner and thus are to be regarded with due suspicion.
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Re: Another embarrassment to the male gender.
« Reply #1 on: November 07, 2013, 01:59:34 am »
You didn't sneak in a mention of what Linux distro he uses? For shame!
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Re: Another embarrassment to the male gender.
« Reply #2 on: November 07, 2013, 01:18:25 pm »
"First amendment rights trampled"? Yeah, those poor folks won't be able to invade our privacy with more up-skirt photos. How will they cope??!
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Re: Another embarrassment to the male gender.
« Reply #3 on: November 07, 2013, 04:35:55 pm »
Maybe we'd see a different brief if the victim was a male wearing baggy shorts, nu?
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Re: Another embarrassment to the male gender.
« Reply #4 on: November 07, 2013, 09:26:17 pm »
I don't think the female lawyer deserves outrage. He deserves a defence. Half the time that defence will be female, in a fair system.

It's nonsense to suggest that women in general are chosen because they lend a certain advantage to the trial. You don't need a reason to hire a woman. They're 50% of the population, and therefore have about 50% of the legal talent of the population. That's the reason you hire a woman.

Did THIS GUY hire specifically a woman because of the rapey trial? I have no idea. I can't read minds, so I don't like to speculate.
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Re: Another embarrassment to the male gender.
« Reply #5 on: November 07, 2013, 09:40:47 pm »
In a fair system, sure. In the system that exists, the chances are about 30/70, not 50/50*. Women are somewhat under-represented as lawyers. A minor point, doesn't make much of a difference to the argument, but it seemed worth making.


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Re: Another embarrassment to the male gender.
« Reply #6 on: November 08, 2013, 10:01:14 am »
Maybe she's one of those weirdo Stepford women who happen to be in positions of autonomy or authority, like Janet Brewer, Sarah Palin, Phyllis Schafly or Ann Coulter...idiots seem to see themselves as "honorary men".

Or, it could just be a gal doing her job.

That said, no self-respecting woman would defend this schmuck.

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Re: Another embarrassment to the male gender.
« Reply #7 on: November 08, 2013, 03:15:59 pm »
That said, no self-respecting woman would defend this schmuck.

Well, this is probably a good thing for her. she doesn't have to put fuck all effort into preparing a good defense, because this guy is absolutely guilty. Easy moneys.

You didn't sneak in a mention of what Linux distro he uses? For shame!

He clearly looks like a Gentoo user.

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Re: Another embarrassment to the male gender.
« Reply #8 on: November 08, 2013, 03:58:08 pm »
That said, no self-respecting woman would defend this schmuck.

She is a lawyer.
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Re: Another embarrassment to the male gender.
« Reply #9 on: November 08, 2013, 06:31:22 pm »
That said, no self-respecting woman would defend this schmuck.

She is a lawyer.

Okay, out of curiosity...

Why are there a lot of jokes about lawyers being monsters?
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Re: Another embarrassment to the male gender.
« Reply #10 on: November 08, 2013, 08:16:01 pm »
Because lawyers have a reputation for being money sucking bastards who will drag things out so clients have to keep paying extortionate fees.

A common joke goes like this: Mr A sues Mr B over [insert long and complicated legal proceedings over here], who wins? The lawyers.

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Re: Another embarrassment to the male gender.
« Reply #11 on: November 08, 2013, 08:29:46 pm »
That said, no self-respecting woman would defend this schmuck.

She is a lawyer.

Okay, out of curiosity...

Why are there a lot of jokes about lawyers being monsters?

Three reasons: (1) No body goes to see a lawyer because life is going well. People go to lawyers when there is a problem and they want it to go away. (2) Lawyers have a no nonsense attitude. Talk to a lawyer about a case and see if they make small talk about trivialities. They won't. Lawyers want facts, relevant facts, and they don't want to waste time. Thus, they give off a cold-hearted appearance. (3) Two people get lawyers, and if it goes to court, one lawyer will always loses. So 50% of the time, a party will fork out money for nothing. Which leads to (3)(a) a lawyer's craft is his time; lawyers aren't cheap.

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Re: Another embarrassment to the male gender.
« Reply #12 on: November 08, 2013, 09:15:24 pm »
Thank you for the clarification, Queen.
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Re: Another embarrassment to the male gender.
« Reply #13 on: November 08, 2013, 10:09:18 pm »
Also, not all lawyers are good and it's easier to remember the bad than the good. You'll forget every lawyer who helped a family keep their home away from a relative trying to manipulate a will to take it and remember every lawyer who intentionally dragged out a case to get paid extra or manipulated a jury through emotions and loophole abuse to get a murderer set free and earn more publicity for themselves.
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Re: Another embarrassment to the male gender.
« Reply #14 on: November 08, 2013, 10:44:07 pm »
Yeah, we tend to remember the slimiest lawyers from high-profile cases, like George Zimmerman's.
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