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Re: Best Political Cartoons
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« Reply #4171 on: July 16, 2014, 10:17:54 pm »


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Re: Best Political Cartoons
« Reply #4172 on: July 16, 2014, 10:20:01 pm »


Anyone wanna tell me what this comic is referring to?
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Re: Best Political Cartoons
« Reply #4173 on: July 16, 2014, 10:24:09 pm »
Israel is the greatest military power in the Middle East, and it can't shut down it's home-grown secessionist terrorist problem even with all our tax dollars.

I say, we cut it's foreign aid if they're just going to use it to make weapons to kill civilians. That's a war crime, no matter how my brother  or anybody else tries to slice it as "anti-terrorism". Even worse, this diverts the government's attentions from the problems like poverty with a poverty rate of 20%

In addition, it's clear that Israel makes our early 2000s America look horrendous. For instance, 1000 Palestinians were killed on the grounds of "500 of them were militants".

Unacceptable for a democratic state, much less a explicit ally of the United States.
You make it sound as if Israel is deliberately targeting innocent people.  While the deaths of innocent Palestinians are undoubtedly tragic, it's hardly an industrial-scale My Lai.  Besides, Hamas must shoulder some of the blame because of their cowardly tactics.

Not as cowardly as holding somebody incommunicado before trying them before a military court, is it?

Or using human shields.

Or targeted killings.
Since when does the IDF use human shields?  That's a tactic Hamas uses.

It's a documented fact, by HRW, AI, and the UN.
And it was banned by Israel's High Court of Justice.  Besides, Hamas got that ball rolling.
And Israel's military is still doing it.

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Re: Best Political Cartoons
« Reply #4174 on: July 16, 2014, 10:26:06 pm »
Israel is the greatest military power in the Middle East, and it can't shut down it's home-grown secessionist terrorist problem even with all our tax dollars.

I say, we cut it's foreign aid if they're just going to use it to make weapons to kill civilians. That's a war crime, no matter how my brother  or anybody else tries to slice it as "anti-terrorism". Even worse, this diverts the government's attentions from the problems like poverty with a poverty rate of 20%

In addition, it's clear that Israel makes our early 2000s America look horrendous. For instance, 1000 Palestinians were killed on the grounds of "500 of them were militants".

Unacceptable for a democratic state, much less a explicit ally of the United States.
You make it sound as if Israel is deliberately targeting innocent people.  While the deaths of innocent Palestinians are undoubtedly tragic, it's hardly an industrial-scale My Lai.  Besides, Hamas must shoulder some of the blame because of their cowardly tactics.

Not as cowardly as holding somebody incommunicado before trying them before a military court, is it?

Or using human shields.

Or targeted killings.
Since when does the IDF use human shields?  That's a tactic Hamas uses.

It's a documented fact, by HRW, AI, and the UN.
And it was banned by Israel's High Court of Justice.  Besides, Hamas got that ball rolling.
And Israel's military is still doing it.

Ironbite-because they don't care as long as a single Palestinian lives
Oh please.  You talk as if Israel is committing outright genocide.

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Re: Best Political Cartoons
« Reply #4175 on: July 16, 2014, 10:47:35 pm »
Israel is the greatest military power in the Middle East, and it can't shut down it's home-grown secessionist terrorist problem even with all our tax dollars.

I say, we cut it's foreign aid if they're just going to use it to make weapons to kill civilians. That's a war crime, no matter how my brother  or anybody else tries to slice it as "anti-terrorism". Even worse, this diverts the government's attentions from the problems like poverty with a poverty rate of 20%

In addition, it's clear that Israel makes our early 2000s America look horrendous. For instance, 1000 Palestinians were killed on the grounds of "500 of them were militants".

Unacceptable for a democratic state, much less a explicit ally of the United States.
You make it sound as if Israel is deliberately targeting innocent people.  While the deaths of innocent Palestinians are undoubtedly tragic, it's hardly an industrial-scale My Lai.  Besides, Hamas must shoulder some of the blame because of their cowardly tactics.

Not as cowardly as holding somebody incommunicado before trying them before a military court, is it?

Or using human shields.

Or targeted killings.
Since when does the IDF use human shields?  That's a tactic Hamas uses.

It's a documented fact, by HRW, AI, and the UN.
And it was banned by Israel's High Court of Justice.  Besides, Hamas got that ball rolling.
And Israel's military is still doing it.

Ironbite-because they don't care as long as a single Palestinian lives
Oh please.  You talk as if Israel is committing outright genocide.

Probably because they are?
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Re: Best Political Cartoons
« Reply #4176 on: July 16, 2014, 11:03:36 pm »
Israel is the greatest military power in the Middle East, and it can't shut down it's home-grown secessionist terrorist problem even with all our tax dollars.

I say, we cut it's foreign aid if they're just going to use it to make weapons to kill civilians. That's a war crime, no matter how my brother  or anybody else tries to slice it as "anti-terrorism". Even worse, this diverts the government's attentions from the problems like poverty with a poverty rate of 20%

In addition, it's clear that Israel makes our early 2000s America look horrendous. For instance, 1000 Palestinians were killed on the grounds of "500 of them were militants".

Unacceptable for a democratic state, much less a explicit ally of the United States.
You make it sound as if Israel is deliberately targeting innocent people.  While the deaths of innocent Palestinians are undoubtedly tragic, it's hardly an industrial-scale My Lai.  Besides, Hamas must shoulder some of the blame because of their cowardly tactics.

Not as cowardly as holding somebody incommunicado before trying them before a military court, is it?

Or using human shields.

Or targeted killings.
Since when does the IDF use human shields?  That's a tactic Hamas uses.

It's a documented fact, by HRW, AI, and the UN.
And it was banned by Israel's High Court of Justice.  Besides, Hamas got that ball rolling.
And Israel's military is still doing it.

Ironbite-because they don't care as long as a single Palestinian lives
Oh please.  You talk as if Israel is committing outright genocide.

Probably because they are?
Oh, fuck off.  Yes, there are wingnuts calling for the genocide of Palestinians.  Yes, what Israel does is questionable.  But it's not genocide.  Are Palestinians being worked to death, or shot on sight, or herded into gas chambers?  No, they're not.  That kind of exaggerated, dangerous, irresponsible rhetoric only hurts your case and the Palestinian cause. 

You want a real genocide?  Look at Rwanda.  Look at Yugoslavia.  Look at Darfur.  If Israel was committing genocide, would they have withdrawn from Gaza?  Would they have recognized the PLO as the voice of the Palestinian people?  Would they have arrested the men who killed Mohammed Abu Khdeir?  Would they have hesitated to fire on Palestinian civilians (as they have done repeatedly)?  No, they wouldn't.

You know who is genocidal?  Hamas.  They who cheer on the deaths of innocent people just because they were Jewish.  They who teach The Protocols of Zion as if it were true.  They spread stories about the blood libel, deny the Holocaust, and consider the only good Jew to be a dead Jew.  It's clear as crystal who the real genocidal maniacs are.

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Re: Best Political Cartoons
« Reply #4177 on: July 16, 2014, 11:07:30 pm »
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Re: Best Political Cartoons
« Reply #4178 on: July 16, 2014, 11:10:47 pm »
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Re: Best Political Cartoons
« Reply #4179 on: July 16, 2014, 11:43:23 pm »
This is a cartoons thread, not an I/P thread.

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Re: Best Political Cartoons
« Reply #4180 on: July 17, 2014, 04:27:01 am »
Israel is the greatest military power in the Middle East, and it can't shut down it's home-grown secessionist terrorist problem even with all our tax dollars.

I say, we cut it's foreign aid if they're just going to use it to make weapons to kill civilians. That's a war crime, no matter how my brother  or anybody else tries to slice it as "anti-terrorism". Even worse, this diverts the government's attentions from the problems like poverty with a poverty rate of 20%

In addition, it's clear that Israel makes our early 2000s America look horrendous. For instance, 1000 Palestinians were killed on the grounds of "500 of them were militants".

Unacceptable for a democratic state, much less a explicit ally of the United States.
You make it sound as if Israel is deliberately targeting innocent people.  While the deaths of innocent Palestinians are undoubtedly tragic, it's hardly an industrial-scale My Lai.  Besides, Hamas must shoulder some of the blame because of their cowardly tactics.

Not as cowardly as holding somebody incommunicado before trying them before a military court, is it?

Or using human shields.

Or targeted killings.
Since when does the IDF use human shields?  That's a tactic Hamas uses.

It's a documented fact, by HRW, AI, and the UN.
And it was banned by Israel's High Court of Justice.  Besides, Hamas got that ball rolling.
And Israel's military is still doing it.

Ironbite-because they don't care as long as a single Palestinian lives
Oh please.  You talk as if Israel is committing outright genocide.

Probably because they are?
Oh, fuck off.  Yes, there are wingnuts calling for the genocide of Palestinians.  Yes, what Israel does is questionable.  But it's not genocide. ['/quote]

I agree with that, I mean obviously it's not mass murder. But are we so sure Israel has changed its spots since 1948? This is a state founded on ethnic cleansing - like in Yugoslavia. Is that not what they are doing now? They try to make Palestine so miserable for Palestinians that eventually they will surrender their homes to Israel without a fight. And much of Palestine has already been given up. How much of Palestine has Israel already (illegally) annexed through settlement construction?

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If Israel was committing genocide, would they have withdrawn from Gaza?

Why did Israel withdraw from Gaza? Because it was too expensive to maintain a few hundred settlers - and they'd given up on direct annexation, as in the West Bank. Instead, blockade was the answer. Lay siege, starve them out.

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You know who is genocidal?  Hamas.

Is Hamas genocidal? Of course not. This is exactly the hysterical overreaction you decry in others, and rightly so. Firstly, Hamas has no capacity to commit even the sort of mass casualties Israel routinely inflicts on them. Or even to sufficiently bloody Israel's nose to force them to the negotiating table, which they resolutely refuse to do. Why was there a negotiated peace with Egypt, but not Palestine? Because Egypt was an actual threat to people, and Palestine is not; you can kick them around all day long, and they can't even touch you, except just enough to justify kicking them some more.

Nor does Hamas even have the intention of killing Jews. Would Hamas accept a peace overture from Israel, based on the Green Line? Of course. In a heartbeat. It is to achieve this end that Hamas occasionally uses force, and usually uses non-violent tactics. Indeed, Hamas has been hyper-actively cracking down on bottle-rocket usage over the last year, in order to prevent the deaths of Jews. In order to justify a counter-attack, Israel stopped their efforts.
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Re: Best Political Cartoons
« Reply #4181 on: July 17, 2014, 06:50:19 am »
1.  "Founded on ethnic cleansing"?  That's wrong in so many ways I can't even begin to describe it.  And many Israelis oppose the settlements.

2.  No.  It was done primarily to try and speed along a peace process.  And if they wanted to drive the Palestinians out of Gaza, why wasn't it a continuous blockade since 2005?  If they're trying to take over Gaza, they're doing a crappy job of it.

3.  Citation needed.

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« Reply #4182 on: July 17, 2014, 06:57:59 am »
Remember when this thread was about the best of political cartoons, and not the 65-year debacle?
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Re: Best Political Cartoons
« Reply #4184 on: July 17, 2014, 09:20:53 am »
You make it sound as if Israel is deliberately targeting innocent people.  While the deaths of innocent Palestinians are undoubtedly tragic, it's hardly an industrial-scale My Lai.  Besides, Hamas must shoulder some of the blame because of their cowardly tactics.

I just find it amusing that you seem to think that Hamas should use chivalrous tactics. Chivalry is for two kinds of people: people who are in such a commanding position they know they are going to win and idiots.

I'd also like to point out that Israel does target innocent people. They are just smart enough to not use a bullet to the brain when bottling them up in the middle east equivalent of WWII Warsaw works just as well. Hell, politically it probably works better since there is less bad press and you have a ready made boogey man at your disposal when you need it.