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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #6930 on: September 11, 2015, 03:26:30 pm »
These people do realize there are White Spanish people right?

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« Reply #6931 on: September 11, 2015, 03:28:12 pm »
I heard a rumor that there's a country full of white people that speaks Spanish. Can't quite remember the name though...

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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #6932 on: September 11, 2015, 03:28:18 pm »
Also, pretty sure Mexican is not an actual language.

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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #6933 on: September 11, 2015, 03:31:58 pm »
Also, pretty sure Mexican is not an actual language.

Well, there are some differences between Mexican Spanish and Castilian Spanish, but they're not really distinct languages.

In any case, lots of Mexicans are white.

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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #6934 on: September 11, 2015, 05:03:19 pm »
Also, pretty sure Mexican is not an actual language.

Well, there are some differences between Mexican Spanish and Castilian Spanish, but they're not really distinct languages.

In any case, lots of Mexicans are white.

Kinda like how there's a lot of differences between British English and American English.
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #6935 on: September 11, 2015, 05:08:40 pm »
Also, pretty sure Mexican is not an actual language.

Well, there are some differences between Mexican Spanish and Castilian Spanish, but they're not really distinct languages.

In any case, lots of Mexicans are white.

Kinda like how there's a lot of differences between British English and American English.
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #6936 on: September 11, 2015, 05:16:59 pm »




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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #6937 on: September 13, 2015, 10:15:31 pm »

Isn't it racist, sexist, etc to assume that certain groups can't speak/write properly?


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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #6938 on: September 13, 2015, 10:57:49 pm »
Isn't it racist, sexist, etc to assume that certain groups can't speak/write properly?

No. If you manufacture a permanently uneducated underclass it's perfectly reasonable for commoners to have a far harder time gathering the resources they need to speak and write "properly". The best part is you can tell right away what class someone is in by listening to them speak for a few seconds.

If you look at history that's a feature of language, not a bug.
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #6939 on: September 14, 2015, 08:28:30 am »

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Re: Worst of Social Justice
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #6942 on: September 14, 2015, 01:04:23 pm »
Some people are calling Rashid from Street Fighter a racist caricature:

https://archive.is/IiFsP

This despite the fact that the character was applauded when unveiled in Dubai:

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-m3O2n4czs" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-m3O2n4czs</a>

Reminds me of the Speedy Gonzales debacle.  Or this cartoon:


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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #6943 on: September 14, 2015, 02:17:52 pm »
I think one of the biggest problems is the sheer amount of Americentricism in places like Tumblr.  It's a point I've seen brought up before, like during that kimono wearing art exhibit; what nationals might find inoffensive could be the opposite for Americans.  This is because people in Dubai or Japan don't face the same prejudices that Japanese and Muslim Americans face while living in a white-run country like the US.  Still, it doesn't help when "people living in different areas have different experiences" becomes "American and European minorities are the only ones whose opinions matter so when we say it's objectively offensive, it's objectively offensive".

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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #6944 on: September 14, 2015, 03:42:21 pm »
I think one of the biggest problems is the sheer amount of Americentricism in places like Tumblr.  It's a point I've seen brought up before, like during that kimono wearing art exhibit; what nationals might find inoffensive could be the opposite for Americans.  This is because people in Dubai or Japan don't face the same prejudices that Japanese and Muslim Americans face while living in a white-run country like the US.  Still, it doesn't help when "people living in different areas have different experiences" becomes "American and European minorities are the only ones whose opinions matter so when we say it's objectively offensive, it's objectively offensive".

Absolutely. People of color in the US are (and should be) more sensitive to racist caricatures because such caricatures have been used to denigrate their communities for hundreds of years. Meanwhile, in non-Western countries, people have not faced the same level of personal discrimination. They have faced oppression from Imperialist overlords, but in most countries this was much more faceless than what people in the US experienced.

Tumblr needs more perspective. There are important experiences outside the US and the rest of the West that should be taken into account.