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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #7365 on: October 25, 2015, 12:42:13 am »
Tumblr is a shithole. Hell 4chan is better than tumblr, imo.
It's bad, but I don't think Tumblr ever egged someone on a shooting spree.

Did that actually happen?  I thought it turned out to be a hoax.
Huh? I didn't hear about that.


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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #7366 on: October 25, 2015, 12:45:10 am »
Yeah the post times did not work out to match with egging on the shooting.
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #7367 on: October 25, 2015, 08:48:04 am »
horseshoe theory in action... i swear, it's scarier because those bullies are underage. i'd never've been caught dead saying anything meaner than putdowns on the internet when i was a teen (even now) and you've got kids who with sociopathic glee target a person with mental problems and in an abusive relationship to the point of suicide? geez, kick the dog, much?!
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #7369 on: October 25, 2015, 11:52:52 am »
ok, ultie, i read it three times and i still don't get it. which one is saying that mary-sues are bad and which one is for mary sues? and how is being the hero of your story a)the same as being a mary-sue (often, not always), and b) how is it a radical act?

last time i wrote a story, i was a mediocre electrician in a post-apocalyptic world who was an expert climber, so he always had to redo the ceiling's electric circuits. he had a knack for dodging and parrying attacks, but could not hit anything. it's easy to create a good protagonist without going into mary-sueism, but i fail to see how it's a radical act. hell, it was mostly wish-fulfilment in my case, because i can't understand electricity. and that was the point of the story. mary-sueism is wish fulfilment taken to its extreme, and it gets boring for the reader, but it's the best thing ever for an amateur writer self-insert.

that's the reason superman sucks kryptonian donkey balls.
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #7370 on: October 25, 2015, 11:58:09 am »
The first one is a complaint about Mary Sues that says that rather than making a "perfect" self insert you should making characters that aren't "perfect."

The second one is defending Mary Sues because they are defending self insert characters.

Neither one of them is defending the annoying "perfect" Mary Sue that everyone loves and who is always "right" because they share the views of the writer. (which in my mind is really annoying and makes the story unlikeable.)

I don't even mind self inserts if they are done well and aren't annoying and I agree with the latter writer that putting a self insert into a story you write might be good for a teenager. ...It might not improve the story but not every story needs to be perfect anyway.

And for the record: not every character that is a self insert is a Mary Sue (at least with the definition that I am using.)
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #7371 on: October 25, 2015, 01:42:19 pm »
I'd be more sympathetic if people here didn't act like they knew what they were saying when they were saying something very much wrong.

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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #7372 on: October 25, 2015, 01:50:15 pm »
*headdesks*
Seriously? FFS. Prostate cancer is a hallmark of privilege. Deal with it.

Isn't movember dealing with it, by raising money to help treat and prevent it? Fucking hell. Just... seriously fuck you opinion writer. Fuck you.

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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #7373 on: October 25, 2015, 02:25:43 pm »
*headdesks*
Seriously? FFS. Prostate cancer is a hallmark of privilege. Deal with it.

Isn't movember dealing with it, by raising money to help treat and prevent it? Fucking hell. Just... seriously fuck you opinion writer. Fuck you.

it's like saying that because a short life expectancy is commonplace in the world, cancer is a 1st world problem. a) no it's not. b) it's callous. c) it's fractally wrong.

the "people have it worse" fallacy strikes again. also, what if a guy wants to grow a beard? or show some friggin' compassion? something this author clearly has no idea that the notion even exists.

reverse it for breast-cancer awareness, and you'd hear about misogyny from every shrub. this isn't even misandry. it's misanthropy. besides, if i had the funds, i'd rather donate to cancer research than to some get-rich-quick scheme hiding behind "give to oppressed women" or some other vague buzzword filled cause. at least with cancer research it benefits humanity as a whole, 1st or 3rd world (well, not in the case of prostate cancer, but my point still stands).
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #7374 on: October 25, 2015, 02:31:26 pm »
That post really clonks my bonkers.

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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #7375 on: October 25, 2015, 05:06:23 pm »
Yeah, people with prostrate cancer have so much privilege.  Like... dying! And... living in constant fear of a remission!


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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #7376 on: October 25, 2015, 05:09:46 pm »
Yeah, people with prostrate cancer have so much privilege.  Like... dying! And... living in constant fear of a remission!

isn't remission when the cancer abates?
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #7377 on: October 25, 2015, 05:12:03 pm »
I think the word he meant was "recurrence."
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #7378 on: October 25, 2015, 05:41:09 pm »
Yes, that ^^;

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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #7379 on: October 26, 2015, 10:24:24 am »
A dear elderly friend of mine was just diagnosed with stage 3 prostate cancer. He's 87. He's toast. Fucking hell it makes me wanna slap a certain internet bitch.
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