Author Topic: 2014 American Midterm Election Thread  (Read 28560 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline dpareja

  • The Beast
  • *****
  • Posts: 5680
Re: 2014 American Midterm Election Thread
« Reply #105 on: November 06, 2014, 09:01:17 pm »
They have to get a super majority vote to bypass a veto. Even though the republicans control the senate, I don't believe they have enough for a 2/3rds super majority vote.

They'd need about 45 Democratic Representatives to defect in the House, and at a bare minimum 13 Democratic Senators (if every outstanding race goes to the Republicans) to defect, in order to override a veto. That's not going to happen.
Quote from: Jordan Duram
It doesn't concern you, Sister, that kind of absolutist view of the universe? Right and wrong determined solely by a single all-knowing, all powerful being whose judgment cannot be questioned and in whose name the most horrendous acts can be sanctioned without appeal?

Quote from: Supreme Court of Canada
Being required by someone else’s religious beliefs to behave contrary to one’s sexual identity is degrading and disrespectful.

Offline mythbuster43

  • Pope
  • ****
  • Posts: 467
  • Gender: Male
    • Northwest View
Re: 2014 American Midterm Election Thread
« Reply #106 on: November 06, 2014, 10:51:40 pm »
They have to get a super majority vote to bypass a veto. Even though the republicans control the senate, I don't believe they have enough for a 2/3rds super majority vote.

They'd need about 45 Democratic Representatives to defect in the House, and at a bare minimum 13 Democratic Senators (if every outstanding race goes to the Republicans) to defect, in order to override a veto. That's not going to happen.

It's very rare throughout our history that presidential vetoes are successfully overriden. The most recent that comes to mind is the 80th Congress overriding Harry Truman's veto of a 1947 Right-To-Work law called the Taft-Hartley Act.

Offline dpareja

  • The Beast
  • *****
  • Posts: 5680
Re: 2014 American Midterm Election Thread
« Reply #107 on: November 06, 2014, 11:15:15 pm »
They have to get a super majority vote to bypass a veto. Even though the republicans control the senate, I don't believe they have enough for a 2/3rds super majority vote.

They'd need about 45 Democratic Representatives to defect in the House, and at a bare minimum 13 Democratic Senators (if every outstanding race goes to the Republicans) to defect, in order to override a veto. That's not going to happen.

It's very rare throughout our history that presidential vetoes are successfully overriden. The most recent that comes to mind is the 80th Congress overriding Harry Truman's veto of a 1947 Right-To-Work law called the Taft-Hartley Act.

http://legislink.org/us/pl-110-275

Quote
LEGISLATIVE HISTORY--H.R. 6331:
---------------------------------------------------------------------------

CONGRESSIONAL RECORD, Vol. 154 (2008):
            June 24, considered and passed House.
            July 9, considered and passed Senate.
WEEKLY COMPILATION OF PRESIDENTIAL DOCUMENTS, Vol. 44 (2008):
            July 15, Presidential veto message.
CONGRESSIONAL RECORD, Vol. 154 (2008):
            July 15, House and Senate overrode veto.
Quote from: Jordan Duram
It doesn't concern you, Sister, that kind of absolutist view of the universe? Right and wrong determined solely by a single all-knowing, all powerful being whose judgment cannot be questioned and in whose name the most horrendous acts can be sanctioned without appeal?

Quote from: Supreme Court of Canada
Being required by someone else’s religious beliefs to behave contrary to one’s sexual identity is degrading and disrespectful.

Offline mythbuster43

  • Pope
  • ****
  • Posts: 467
  • Gender: Male
    • Northwest View
Re: 2014 American Midterm Election Thread
« Reply #108 on: November 07, 2014, 02:00:30 am »
Having just looked up the history of vetoes, I know about the override that happened in 2008.

So far in Obama's Presidency, he's only vetoed two bills, the second of which happened four years ago.

Offline ironbite

  • Overlord of all that is good in Iacon City
  • Kakarot
  • ******
  • Posts: 10686
  • Gender: Male
  • Stuck in the middle with you.
Re: 2014 American Midterm Election Thread
« Reply #109 on: November 07, 2014, 04:42:12 pm »
Mark Warner is officially declared the winner of his race.  There's a few other races out there that haven't been declared but that's good.

Ironbite-means people aren't over Enron.

Offline Ironchew

  • Official Edgelord
  • The Beast
  • *****
  • Posts: 1888
  • Gender: Male
  • The calm, intellectual Trotsky-like Trotskyist
Re: 2014 American Midterm Election Thread
« Reply #110 on: November 07, 2014, 06:43:22 pm »
They have to get a super majority vote to bypass a veto. Even though the republicans control the senate, I don't believe they have enough for a 2/3rds super majority vote.

They'd need about 45 Democratic Representatives to defect in the House, and at a bare minimum 13 Democratic Senators (if every outstanding race goes to the Republicans) to defect, in order to override a veto. That's not going to happen.

Alternatively, they need a sympathetic president that won't veto most of their ideas in the first place. Soon we'll see just how right-wing Obama really is.
Consumption is not a politically combative act — refraining from consumption even less so.

Offline dpareja

  • The Beast
  • *****
  • Posts: 5680
Re: 2014 American Midterm Election Thread
« Reply #111 on: November 08, 2014, 02:18:55 am »
They have to get a super majority vote to bypass a veto. Even though the republicans control the senate, I don't believe they have enough for a 2/3rds super majority vote.

They'd need about 45 Democratic Representatives to defect in the House, and at a bare minimum 13 Democratic Senators (if every outstanding race goes to the Republicans) to defect, in order to override a veto. That's not going to happen.

Alternatively, they need a sympathetic president that won't veto most of their ideas in the first place. Soon we'll see just how right-wing Obama really is.

Well, the only two bills he has vetoed so far were when the Democratic Party had majorities in both the House and the Senate. (Granted one could argue that that's because nothing worth vetoing was getting passed once Republicans took the House.)
Quote from: Jordan Duram
It doesn't concern you, Sister, that kind of absolutist view of the universe? Right and wrong determined solely by a single all-knowing, all powerful being whose judgment cannot be questioned and in whose name the most horrendous acts can be sanctioned without appeal?

Quote from: Supreme Court of Canada
Being required by someone else’s religious beliefs to behave contrary to one’s sexual identity is degrading and disrespectful.

Offline Beezlebub

  • Bishop
  • ***
  • Posts: 147
  • Gender: Male
Re: 2014 American Midterm Election Thread
« Reply #112 on: November 08, 2014, 03:42:47 am »
I hate being an Iowan right now. Despite my best efforts, we've elected Joni "OBAMACARE *Scare chord*" Ernst and Matthew "Those Jews" Ung.
"If they want to take away our porn, they'll have to pry it from my cold, dead, well-exercised right hand"

Offline lord gibbon

  • That Weird Guy in the Corner
  • The Beast
  • *****
  • Posts: 868
  • Gender: Male
  • living trivia machine
Re: 2014 American Midterm Election Thread
« Reply #113 on: November 08, 2014, 04:01:24 am »
I'm similarly ashamed of my fellow Coloradans right now, We kicked out Mark Udall, one of the genuinely progressive members of congress, in favor of Cory "Personhood" Gardener.

Also, We now have Gordon Klingenshmit in our state house, but seeing as he's from Colorado Spring's most conservative district, I saw that one coming.
Excuse me, sir, do you have a minute to talk about your lord and savior, Hannibal Barca?

Quote from: Seneca
Religion is regarded by the common man as true, by the wise man as false, and by the powerful man as useful
Yeah, if the pagans are so smart, why did Jesus invade Pagan-land on the back of a dragon and kill them all!

Offline Vypernight

  • The Beast
  • *****
  • Posts: 1778
  • Gender: Male
  • Stubborn, pig-headed skeptic
Re: 2014 American Midterm Election Thread
« Reply #114 on: November 09, 2014, 03:16:47 pm »
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/11/07/supreme-court-obamacare-subsidies_n_6122370.html?icid=maing-grid7%7Chtmlws-main-bb%7Cdl1%7Csec3_lnk3%26pLid%3D560465

I was afraid of this.  Instead of using their time to at least pretend to improve things, they'll waste it fighting the ACA again.  i'm still trying to figure out how they got reelected after last year shutting the gov't done over it.  I don't know, maybe they're trying to see how much they can get away with.
Whenever I hear a politician speaking strongly for or against abortion, all I hear is, "I have no idea how to fix the economy!"

Offline ironbite

  • Overlord of all that is good in Iacon City
  • Kakarot
  • ******
  • Posts: 10686
  • Gender: Male
  • Stuck in the middle with you.
Re: 2014 American Midterm Election Thread
« Reply #115 on: November 09, 2014, 04:19:25 pm »
I've already said why.

Ironbite-they convinced their voters that their shit don't stink.

Offline Eiki-mun

  • der Löwe aus Mitternacht
  • The Beast
  • *****
  • Posts: 1475
  • Gender: Male
  • On the fields of Breitenfeld.
    • Main Personal Blog
Re: 2014 American Midterm Election Thread
« Reply #116 on: November 09, 2014, 05:39:39 pm »
They won, and they'll probably continue to win, because the American people are uneducated morons.
There is no plague more evil and vile to watch spread than the plague that is the Von Habsburg dynasty.

Offline Beezlebub

  • Bishop
  • ***
  • Posts: 147
  • Gender: Male
Re: 2014 American Midterm Election Thread
« Reply #117 on: November 11, 2014, 12:07:50 am »
I'm starting to wonder if elections are rigged by the comedians to ensure that they'll have material for the following years.
"If they want to take away our porn, they'll have to pry it from my cold, dead, well-exercised right hand"

Offline Witchyjoshy

  • SHITLORD THUNDERBASTARD!!
  • Kakarot
  • ******
  • Posts: 9044
  • Gender: Male
  • Thinks he's a bard
Re: 2014 American Midterm Election Thread
« Reply #118 on: November 11, 2014, 12:46:05 am »
I'm starting to wonder if elections are rigged by the comedians to ensure that they'll have material for the following years.

What would you even call a government run by comedians?

Comedicracy?
Mockery of ideas you don't comprehend or understand is the surest mark of unintelligence.

Even the worst union is better than the best Walmart.

Caladur's Active Character Sheet

Offline Second Coming of Madman

  • Some of Internet Jesus
  • The Beast
  • *****
  • Posts: 1543
  • Gender: Male
  • Cisscum Internationale Society
Re: 2014 American Midterm Election Thread
« Reply #119 on: November 11, 2014, 09:21:33 am »
I'm starting to wonder if elections are rigged by the comedians to ensure that they'll have material for the following years.

Damn it, he's onto us.
@KanzlerImaginos - Feel free to drop me a line.

Quote
Toddlers get too much exercise, they wouldn't make good veal.