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Title: Shooting at Black Church in Charleston
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on June 18, 2015, 09:55:38 am
http://news.yahoo.com/shooting-downtown-charleston-south-carolina-031543897.html (http://news.yahoo.com/shooting-downtown-charleston-south-carolina-031543897.html)

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CHARLESTON, S.C. (AP) — An intense manhunt was under way Thursday for a young white man who joined a prayer meeting and then opened fire inside a historic black church in downtown Charleston, killing nine people, including the pastor, in what authorities called a hate crime.

Police released photographs from surveillance video Thursday morning of the suspect and a dark colored sedan that may have been the getaway vehicle.

"This is a very dangerous individual," Police Chief Greg Mullen said. "We want to identify this individual and arrest him before he hurts anyone else."

The suspect stayed for nearly an hour at the prayer meeting Wednesday night before shooting the victims — six females and three males, Mullen said.

Mullen did not give other details and said names would be released after families were notified.

But State House Minority leader Todd Rutherford told The Associated Press that the Emanuel AME Church's pastor, state Sen. Clementa Pinckney, was among those killed.

My prayers are with the family and friends of the deceased.   :( 

And I hope they catch the shooter.  Monstrous, loathsome excuse for a human being...
Title: Re: Shooting at Black Church in Charleston
Post by: ironbite on June 18, 2015, 11:20:07 am
It's a hate crime btw.  They've labeled it a hate crime.  Can't wait to see how they justify this.

Ironbite-also I want the media to start calling the shooter a terrorist.
Title: Re: Shooting at Black Church in Charleston
Post by: Ironchew on June 18, 2015, 11:57:19 am
Another "responsible" gun owner that was only observed as irresponsible after he killed nine people.
Title: Re: Shooting at Black Church in Charleston
Post by: SCarpelan on June 18, 2015, 11:58:52 am
They've caught him. (http://fox13now.com/2015/06/18/suspected-gunman-identified-in-charleston-church-shooting-that-killed-9/)
Title: Re: Shooting at Black Church in Charleston
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on June 18, 2015, 12:10:19 pm
Another "responsible" gun owner that was only observed as irresponsible after he killed nine people.

Let me try and understand where you're coming from.  Do you support profiling of gun owners?

They've caught him. (http://fox13now.com/2015/06/18/suspected-gunman-identified-in-charleston-church-shooting-that-killed-9/)

Good!  Looks like Michael Slager will have some company.
Title: Re: Shooting at Black Church in Charleston
Post by: ironbite on June 18, 2015, 12:28:06 pm
Charge him with terrorism and throw him in the same cell block as that Boston Marathon bomber kid.

Ironbite-time white people started being called what they are.
Title: Re: Shooting at Black Church in Charleston
Post by: mellenORL on June 18, 2015, 12:54:30 pm
So glad they got this POS. Saw this atrocity reported when I got up at six. Now that he's in custody, I will have a little less outrage eating at me.
Title: Re: Shooting at Black Church in Charleston
Post by: TheContrarian on June 18, 2015, 01:32:22 pm
Ironbite-also I want the media to start calling the shooter a terrorist.

Hear hear, it's about time lefties had something more modern than Timothy McVeigh and the killer of George Tiller to counterbalance the bloodbath of islamic terrorism you've all been such good apologists for this last couple of decades.
Title: Re: Shooting at Black Church in Charleston
Post by: ironbite on June 18, 2015, 04:04:35 pm
Oh something that's been pointed out to me.  They arrested him with narry a struggle.  Meanwhile you've got black kids getting shot for having a toy guy in their laps.

Ironbite-*sips tea*
Title: Re: Shooting at Black Church in Charleston
Post by: mellenORL on June 18, 2015, 06:26:01 pm
Contrarian, your bait is so ripe, it's rotting. No terrorism apologists on this board, but why would you bother to read while lurking?
Title: Re: Shooting at Black Church in Charleston
Post by: Stormwarden on June 18, 2015, 06:50:28 pm
*sighs* Fuckin' hell...

Well, he very much admitted he wanted them dead, if eyewitness testimony is any indication (just remember that eyewitness testimony is the least reliable form of evidence). I figure he was getting his ideas from his parents or the internet. But I agree on calling him a terrorist.
Title: Re: Shooting at Black Church in Charleston
Post by: TheContrarian on June 18, 2015, 07:05:27 pm
Contrarian, your bait is so ripe, it's rotting. No terrorism apologists on this board, but why would you bother to read while lurking?

Of course not XD

It is quite telling how this thread begins with condolences for the victims and their families, in contrast to, say, the thread about the Charlie Hebdo massacre (http://fqa.digibase.ca/index.php?topic=6266.0) where the first few comments amount to OMFG THE POOR MUSLIMS!!!ONE!

#TotallyNotProgressiveBrainwashing
Title: Re: Shooting at Black Church in Charleston
Post by: niam2023 on June 18, 2015, 07:27:23 pm
"brainwashing", because its easier to dismiss your opponents points by saying they didn't come about their ideas themselves - they were "brainwashed" into them.

Get it into your thick skull - I was not brainwashed by anything or anyone.
Title: Re: Shooting at Black Church in Charleston
Post by: Barbarella on June 18, 2015, 08:10:20 pm
I'm glad they got that sick freak!

I'm taken by how he didn't commit the crime right away, he just walked in there and waited until they were doe. I wonder if he joined in the prayer meeting....giving the victims a false sense of security?

About TheContrarian, just ignore him and ban him. He's just an inferior troll breaking wind.

My heart goes out to the victims families and survivors (if any).

Are there any survivors? Tell me he didn't succeed at killing them all! There has to be survivors. Someone saw this and reported it. There surely were survivors, wounded or otherwise.

What really makes this tragic is that this little punk managed to kill so many. You'd think there would be more wounded survivors. You'd think in a room full of people running around there would more wounded than physically dead.

I read some articles, he was observing the service. The church invited him to join but then he pulled out his gun and started shooting while yelling epithets. How many people were at this meeting? Maybe there was a large amount and a bunch wounded and a bunch more living unharmed survivors and the nine who were sent to the afterlife were just really in close physical proximity to this guy.

I just can't accept that there was like only nine or ten people in a big room and one little dim-witted punk successfully managed to quickly kill them all despite all the struggling like he was some sociopath white supremacist male murderer answer to Annie Oakley. Even if it did happen as I described, I just can't accept it.

What gets my goat is that, like the Sandy Hook shooting, their will probably be no change in gun laws! Hopefully, in relation to all the Police-brutality stuff going on and the big movement against it, maybe....MAYBE something might be done!

I'll just say to myself, "Death is not the end. The victims are victors. They're still alive, they live in the hereafter. They caught the perp & his afterlife will be awful, unlike the victims, who are happy in a beautiful new world".

Hopefully, 2016 will be the year that the tide turns for the better. We need to vote all as much wingnuts out as possible, vote in as much sane people as possible & vote Bernie or Hillary into the White House! Bernie would be far better but if he doesn't get the nomination, Hillary would have to do. I'm sick of all this "Reaganomic/Teabagger/Religious Right/Koch Brothers/Wingnut" kookfest. Almost all the gains made in the 20th Century have been reversed. It's a tragedy.

At least America is waking up and a new Progressive Movement is emerging, along with a new anti-Police Brutality Movement.

[Removed the 'Crazy Ranty' bits]
Title: Re: Shooting at Black Church in Charleston
Post by: Damen on June 18, 2015, 09:16:29 pm
Okay, seriously, did SpukiKitty hack Barbarella's account?
Title: Re: Shooting at Black Church in Charleston
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on June 18, 2015, 09:20:31 pm
Okay, seriously, did SpukiKitty hack Barbarella's account?

...They're the same person.
Title: Re: Shooting at Black Church in Charleston
Post by: Damen on June 18, 2015, 09:24:27 pm
Ah. That answers my question. I just remembered Spuki quitting, but don't recall the reappearance.

Carry on.
Title: Re: Shooting at Black Church in Charleston
Post by: Barbarella on June 18, 2015, 09:33:27 pm
Okay, seriously, did SpukiKitty hack Barbarella's account?

Actually we're the same.

I must re-edit my last post. I've been trying to turn over a new leaf with a new name and everything.

I re-edited it.
Title: Re: Shooting at Black Church in Charleston
Post by: Stormwarden on June 18, 2015, 09:36:11 pm
Sooo, who the fuck is this sad sack of shit called the Contrarian? And should I give a crap about him?

Back on topic, glad they caught the guy. What pisses me off is that it was allowed to happen at all.
Title: Re: Shooting at Black Church in Charleston
Post by: Barbarella on June 18, 2015, 09:46:42 pm
Sooo, who the fuck is this sad sack of shit called the Contrarian? And should I give a crap about him?

Back on topic, glad they caught the guy. What pisses me off is that it was allowed to happen at all.

I know. I'm glad he'll face justice. My heart goes out to the victim's & survivors families (there were survivors, thank goodness). I will also wish the deceased Godspeed in their new life on The Other Side.
Title: Re: Shooting at Black Church in Charleston
Post by: Zygarde on June 18, 2015, 09:50:20 pm
I'm sorta glad they didn't kill him cause I don't like the idea of this guy dying thinking he's some martyr for the White Supremacist movement, I want him to suffer for a long time in prison, I want him to get life so that for every person he killed he has a lifetime to think about it.
Title: Re: Shooting at Black Church in Charleston
Post by: Sigmaleph on June 18, 2015, 11:06:55 pm
Contrarian, your bait is so ripe, it's rotting. No terrorism apologists on this board, but why would you bother to read while lurking?

Of course not XD

It is quite telling how this thread begins with condolences for the victims and their families, in contrast to, say, the thread about the Charlie Hebdo massacre (http://fqa.digibase.ca/index.php?topic=6266.0) where the first few comments amount to OMFG THE POOR MUSLIMS!!!ONE!

#TotallyNotProgressiveBrainwashing

You're right, let's spare a thought for all the white people who will be unfairly stereotyped as terrorists because of this event.

Oh, wait.
Title: Re: Shooting at Black Church in Charleston
Post by: ironbite on June 18, 2015, 11:31:53 pm
And that's why Sigma's the admin.

Ironbite-burn.
Title: Re: Shooting at Black Church in Charleston
Post by: SCarpelan on June 19, 2015, 12:57:58 am
Ironbite-also I want the media to start calling the shooter a terrorist.

Hear hear, it's about time lefties had something more modern than Timothy McVeigh and the killer of George Tiller to counterbalance the bloodbath of islamic terrorism you've all been such good apologists for this last couple of decades.
Yeah, we are begging and praying for right-wing terrorism since it's so rare.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/16/opinion/the-other-terror-threat.html?_r=0 (http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/16/opinion/the-other-terror-threat.html?_r=0)

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Since 9/11, an average of nine American Muslims per year have been involved in an average of six terrorism-related plots against targets in the United States. Most were disrupted, but the 20 plots that were carried out accounted for 50 fatalities over the past 13 and a half years.

In contrast, right-wing extremists averaged 337 attacks per year in the decade after 9/11, causing a total of 254 fatalities, according to a study by Arie Perliger, a professor at the United States Military Academy’s Combating Terrorism Center. The toll has increased since the study was released in 2012.
Title: Re: Shooting at Black Church in Charleston
Post by: TheContrarian on June 19, 2015, 02:39:08 am
Ironbite-also I want the media to start calling the shooter a terrorist.

Hear hear, it's about time lefties had something more modern than Timothy McVeigh and the killer of George Tiller to counterbalance the bloodbath of islamic terrorism you've all been such good apologists for this last couple of decades.
Yeah, we are begging and praying for right-wing terrorism since it's so rare.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/16/opinion/the-other-terror-threat.html?_r=0 (http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/16/opinion/the-other-terror-threat.html?_r=0)

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Since 9/11, an average of nine American Muslims per year have been involved in an average of six terrorism-related plots against targets in the United States. Most were disrupted, but the 20 plots that were carried out accounted for 50 fatalities over the past 13 and a half years.

In contrast, right-wing extremists averaged 337 attacks per year in the decade after 9/11, causing a total of 254 fatalities, according to a study by Arie Perliger, a professor at the United States Military Academy’s Combating Terrorism Center. The toll has increased since the study was released in 2012.

254 fatalities in 11 years.  Brilliant.

Islamic terror groups have topped that figure EACH MONTH (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents,_2015) in 2015 alone.

Title: Re: Shooting at Black Church in Charleston
Post by: Cloud3514 on June 19, 2015, 03:05:08 am
Yes, because terrorism is a contest to see which group can cause more death and destruction, with the winner taking the title of terrorist. For fuck's sake.
Title: Re: Shooting at Black Church in Charleston
Post by: Askold on June 19, 2015, 04:13:59 am
254 fatalities in 11 years.  Brilliant.

Islamic terror groups have topped that figure EACH MONTH (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents,_2015) in 2015 alone.

You are comparing deaths in USA vs deaths all over the world. The point was that the muslims in USA are being labeled as terrorist despite the fact that IN USA right wing movements and terrorists have caused more deaths after the 9/11 terrorist attack. And, I suppose 9/11 should also be on the list but these days muslim terrorist really are a minor threat to USA but they are still getting huge amount of attention from media and authorities while the "domestic" threat of right-wingers, "Sovereign citizens" and other such groups are being ignored or at least underestimated.
Title: Re: Shooting at Black Church in Charleston
Post by: Tolpuddle Martyr on June 19, 2015, 06:19:47 am
Charge him with terrorism and throw him in the same cell block as that Boston Marathon bomber kid.

Ironbite-time white people started being called what they are.

Absolutely, political terror is what it is.

When Muslims do it, they're terrorists. When Christians do it, they're crazy.

Bull. Shit.
Title: Re: Shooting at Black Church in Charleston
Post by: Tolpuddle Martyr on June 19, 2015, 06:25:00 am
Contrarian, your bait is so ripe, it's rotting. No terrorism apologists on this board, but why would you bother to read while lurking?

Of course not XD

It is quite telling how this thread begins with condolences for the victims and their families, in contrast to, say, the thread about the Charlie Hebdo massacre (http://fqa.digibase.ca/index.php?topic=6266.0) where the first few comments amount to OMFG THE POOR MUSLIMS!!!ONE!

#TotallyNotProgressiveBrainwashing

Hey dickhead, I started that thread and I said this.

12 fucking dead (http://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2015/jan/07/shooting-paris-satirical-magazine-charlie-hebdo). Fuck.  :(

Which was to say, twelve people have died and that's awful. Totally not, "hey people of sect X are totes better than sect Y, sectarianly".
Title: Re: Shooting at Black Church in Charleston
Post by: Dakota Bob on June 19, 2015, 06:47:42 am
They've caught him. (http://fox13now.com/2015/06/18/suspected-gunman-identified-in-charleston-church-shooting-that-killed-9/)

With a haircut like that, it's no surprise they caught him so quickly.
Title: Re: Shooting at Black Church in Charleston
Post by: Second Coming of Madman on June 19, 2015, 07:40:52 am
Okay, seriously, did SpukiKitty hack Barbarella's account?

He doesn't know.
Title: Re: Shooting at Black Church in Charleston
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on June 19, 2015, 08:27:51 am
Jesus Christ, Contrarian, you're making Ironchew look reasonable!
Title: Re: Shooting at Black Church in Charleston
Post by: rookie on June 19, 2015, 08:57:24 am
CNN claims he was trying to start a race war. While I'm not a sociologist, I really don't think that's what this country needs right now. Well, with any luck this asshole will get sent to general population.
Title: Re: Shooting at Black Church in Charleston
Post by: mellenORL on June 19, 2015, 09:07:39 am
Contrarian, your bait is so ripe, it's rotting. No terrorism apologists on this board, but why would you bother to read while lurking?

Of course not XD

It is quite telling how this thread begins with condolences for the victims and their families, in contrast to, say, the thread about the Charlie Hebdo massacre (http://fqa.digibase.ca/index.php?topic=6266.0) where the first few comments amount to OMFG THE POOR MUSLIMS!!!ONE!

#TotallyNotProgressiveBrainwashing

OMFG! I'll Ride With You is a libtard terrorist sympathy ploy. We was brainwashed! Keeping random law abiding Muslim citizens safe on the streets from contrarian and his baseball bat is COMMUNISMS!!11!!

I don't know which to say first; grow a pair or learn to read?
Title: Re: Shooting at Black Church in Charleston
Post by: RavynousHunter on June 19, 2015, 09:13:01 am
They've caught him. (http://fox13now.com/2015/06/18/suspected-gunman-identified-in-charleston-church-shooting-that-killed-9/)

With a haircut like that, it's no surprise they caught him so quickly.

Dear god, he looks like Rock Lee!
Title: Re: Shooting at Black Church in Charleston
Post by: Zygarde on June 19, 2015, 09:19:38 am
Please don't associate the awesome that is Rock Lee with this fucker.
Title: Re: Shooting at Black Church in Charleston
Post by: rookie on June 19, 2015, 09:27:34 am
Please don't associate the awesome that is Rock Lee with this fucker.

Besides, he looks more like that kid from The New Guy and Road Trip.
Title: Re: Shooting at Black Church in Charleston
Post by: ironbite on June 19, 2015, 10:50:26 am
CNN claims he was trying to start a race war. While I'm not a sociologist, I really don't think that's what this country needs right now. Well, with any luck this asshole will get sent to general population.

The problem with this is a lot of these racist terrorists actually believe that the majority of the country is with them.  So they'll run out, do these random attacks and wait for the country to rise up and join them.  Then when it doesn't happen, they get confused.  And angry.  And go out on another spree.

Ironbite-they can't function in the real world.
Title: Re: Shooting at Black Church in Charleston
Post by: Second Coming of Madman on June 19, 2015, 11:08:18 am
If you can't kill 9 people in less than 5 Glock 21 clips, you need to re-consider your plans for a Race War, buddy.

Title: Re: Shooting at Black Church in Charleston
Post by: Barbarella on June 19, 2015, 05:49:04 pm
CNN claims he was trying to start a race war. While I'm not a sociologist, I really don't think that's what this country needs right now. Well, with any luck this asshole will get sent to general population.

The problem with this is a lot of these racist terrorists actually believe that the majority of the country is with them.  So they'll run out, do these random attacks and wait for the country to rise up and join them.  Then when it doesn't happen, they get confused.  And angry.  And go out on another spree.

Ironbite-they can't function in the real world.


Very pathetic people. They must really be trapped in an incredible thick social/ideological bubble to think most of the country is on their side.
Title: Re: Shooting at Black Church in Charleston
Post by: Ironchew on June 19, 2015, 07:04:13 pm
Very pathetic people. They must really be trapped in an incredible thick social/ideological bubble to think most of the country is on their side.

A majority of the country is on their side. If you don't believe me, look at the huge backlash against any neutral portrayal of nonwhite victims of police brutality. The idea of dark-sinned people being the enemy has very deep roots in American culture and we aren't anywhere close to moving past it.
Title: Re: Shooting at Black Church in Charleston
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on June 19, 2015, 08:19:03 pm
Very pathetic people. They must really be trapped in an incredible thick social/ideological bubble to think most of the country is on their side.

A majority of the country is on their side. If you don't believe me, look at the huge backlash against any neutral portrayal of nonwhite victims of police brutality. The idea of dark-sinned people being the enemy has very deep roots in American culture and we aren't anywhere close to moving past it.

Maybe Michael Brown and Freddie Grey got demonized, but Eric Garner and Walter Scott were almost uniformly portrayed as innocent victims.

The rest is bullshit, of course.
Title: Re: Shooting at Black Church in Charleston
Post by: ironbite on June 19, 2015, 08:46:26 pm
Very pathetic people. They must really be trapped in an incredible thick social/ideological bubble to think most of the country is on their side.

A majority of the country is on their side. If you don't believe me, look at the huge backlash against any neutral portrayal of nonwhite victims of police brutality. The idea of dark-sinned people being the enemy has very deep roots in American culture and we aren't anywhere close to moving past it.

No.  Jesus fuck no.  You're so wrong it hurts.

Ironbite-just...wow.
Title: Re: Shooting at Black Church in Charleston
Post by: Askold on June 20, 2015, 07:12:44 am
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jun/19/rick-perry-charleston-church-shooting-accident

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“This is the MO of this administration, any time there is an accident like this, the president is clear. He doesn’t like for Americans to have guns and so he uses every opportunity, this being another one, to basically go parrot that message,” Perry said.

He later explained that he meant to say "incident" but that is only slightly better...

Funny that he complains about Obama trying to use this as an excuse to talk about gun laws when Perry is doing the same thing... Though Perry is trying to gain support from the pro-gun side.
Title: Re: Shooting at Black Church in Charleston
Post by: rookie on June 20, 2015, 09:18:33 am
And that's stupid. The Obama administration had done slightly less than nothing to take guns away from people.
Title: Re: Shooting at Black Church in Charleston
Post by: Id82 on June 20, 2015, 11:54:40 am
Yeah Obama's stance on gun control has been
"Hey wouldn't it be great if we had some gun control up in here? Well I'm not going to do anything about it."
Title: Re: Shooting at Black Church in Charleston
Post by: The_Queen on June 20, 2015, 12:33:27 pm
Very pathetic people. They must really be trapped in an incredible thick social/ideological bubble to think most of the country is on their side.

A majority of the country is on their side. If you don't believe me, look at the huge backlash against any neutral portrayal of nonwhite victims of police brutality. The idea of dark-sinned people being the enemy has very deep roots in American culture and we aren't anywhere close to moving past it.

No.  Jesus fuck no.  You're so wrong it hurts.

Ironbite-just...wow.

I'm actually inclined to agree with Chew. I've said it a lot, but modern racism isn't swastikas and the n-word, it's a bullshit double standard that nobody acknowledges or addresses that favors white people over non-white people. And just because this shooter's* delivery of racism is seen as uncouth by the majority does not undermine the fact that a sizable chunk of this country finds white lives more valuable than black.

*who only shot up the church because of racism, video games, depression, other mental illness, nothing better to do that day, television, metal music, the devil, teh ghey, but totally had nothing to do with the easy availability of guns in this county...
Title: Re: Shooting at Black Church in Charleston
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on June 20, 2015, 12:54:35 pm
Very pathetic people. They must really be trapped in an incredible thick social/ideological bubble to think most of the country is on their side.

A majority of the country is on their side. If you don't believe me, look at the huge backlash against any neutral portrayal of nonwhite victims of police brutality. The idea of dark-sinned people being the enemy has very deep roots in American culture and we aren't anywhere close to moving past it.

No.  Jesus fuck no.  You're so wrong it hurts.

Ironbite-just...wow.

I'm actually inclined to agree with Chew. I've said it a lot, but modern racism isn't swastikas and the n-word, it's a bullshit double standard that nobody acknowledges or addresses that favors white people over non-white people. And just because this shooter's* delivery of racism is seen as uncouth by the majority does not undermine the fact that a sizable chunk of this country finds white lives more valuable than black.

*who only shot up the church because of racism, video games, depression, other mental illness, nothing better to do that day, television, metal music, the devil, teh ghey, but totally had nothing to do with the easy availability of guns in this county...

I'm not.  While you're correct in saying that there are double standards when it comes to race in America, Chewie's being completely ridiculous.  Outside of White Nationalist assholes, nobody supports stuff like this.

And I agree, we ought to make it harder for dangerous people to get guns.  I'm generally not in favor of gun control, but I do favor stricter background checks.
Title: Re: Shooting at Black Church in Charleston
Post by: ironbite on June 20, 2015, 01:15:52 pm
Well somebody found his manifesto.  It's about as disgusting as you'd think.

Ironbite- I'll like when I get home
Title: Re: Shooting at Black Church in Charleston
Post by: Askold on June 20, 2015, 01:16:47 pm
I still like the theory that Obama is secretly a gun-industry advocate. I think already back in 2008(?) when someone joked that Obama must have had a huge amount of .40S&W that he wanted to get rid off as the price went up soon after his election.
Title: Re: Shooting at Black Church in Charleston
Post by: Ironchew on June 20, 2015, 01:22:01 pm
Meant to say "dark-skinned" instead of the very Mormon-sounding "dark-sinned".

I stand by what I said. Americans are conditioned to be repulsed by a mass shooting, but we don't mind police picking off one or two unarmed black men every day. If it's an entire country full of nonwhites, all we have to do is declare war on them and the media cheerleaders start celebrating mass killings.

We run up hard against Poe's law when it comes to racists making racist statements. They can say they didn't mean it or it was just a joke, but there is always at least one dangerous person within earshot who thinks they're on his side.
Title: Re: Shooting at Black Church in Charleston
Post by: TheUnknown on June 20, 2015, 04:26:35 pm
Well somebody found his manifesto.  It's about as disgusting as you'd think.

Ironbite- I'll like when I get home

Here's the Yahoo! article about it. (http://news.yahoo.com/suspected-killer-dylann-roof-s-racist-manifesto-surfaces-154324556.html)

And of course some NRA assholes are blaming it on the church for being a gun free zone. (http://news.yahoo.com/nra-executive-suggests-slain-charleston-pastor-blame-gun-043458974.html)  The majority of comments seem to agree.
Title: Re: Shooting at Black Church in Charleston
Post by: ironbite on June 20, 2015, 06:14:38 pm
Thanks for the linkage.
Title: Re: Shooting at Black Church in Charleston
Post by: mellenORL on June 21, 2015, 09:08:55 am
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/seventeen-shot-one-killed-in-us-block-parties-reports/ar-AAbTGVD?ocid=U147DHP (http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/seventeen-shot-one-killed-in-us-block-parties-reports/ar-AAbTGVD?ocid=U147DHP)

Roofie maybe has inspired some helter-skelter wannabes? There are no descriptions of the shooters in these two incidents in the linked article, but yeah, if both shooters were in fact white, and just hosed down two different block parties in two cities, both in black neighborhoods...





 
Title: Re: Shooting at Black Church in Charleston
Post by: ironbite on June 21, 2015, 04:34:55 pm
So Ted Cruz is the master of the punchline.  That punchline being my first in his fat fucking face.

Source: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/06/20/ted-cruz-gun-control-charleston_n_7628960.html?ncid=tweetlnkushpmg00000067

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RED OAK, Iowa - Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) dropped a few gun control jokes during his latest swing through Iowa, days after the shooting deaths of nine people in a Charleston, South Carolina, church.

"You know the great thing about the state of Iowa is, I'm pretty sure you all define gun control the same way we do in Texas -- hitting what you aim at," Cruz said at a town hall meeting Friday in Red Oak.

Before a crowd of nearly 70 people, Cruz recalled a recent excursion to a gun range in New Hampshire that had fully automatic machine guns.

"My wife, Heidi, who is a petite, 5'2 California blonde, she was standing at the tripod unloading the full machine gun with a pink baseball cap that said 'armed and fabulous,'" he said.

This is the second ill-timed joke the Republican presidential hopeful has made this month. Cruz made a joke about Joe Biden just days after the vice president's son died from brain cancer.

Ironbite-I now see why Canada just...let him go.
Title: Re: Shooting at Black Church in Charleston
Post by: Barbarella on June 21, 2015, 10:18:30 pm
Concerning the shooter. I read more about him. What a piece of work. Oddly enough, he grew up in a town that was mostly black (So you'd assume he'd know how blacks really are like) and had "friended" a bunch of blacks on his Facebook account (Why would a W.S. do THAT? A 'beard' perhaps?).

I could never figure out someone like that. Any theories?
Title: Re: Shooting at Black Church in Charleston
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on June 22, 2015, 11:01:21 pm
Concerning the shooter. I read more about him. What a piece of work. Oddly enough, he grew up in a town that was mostly black (So you'd assume he'd know how blacks really are like) and had "friended" a bunch of blacks on his Facebook account (Why would a W.S. do THAT? A 'beard' perhaps?).

I could never figure out someone like that. Any theories?

I don't know.  Maybe he thought they were exceptions or something.

On a lighter note, I found this:

http://fusion.net/story/154553/how-a-16-year-old-tricked-the-new-york-times-into-reporting-that-dylann-roof-was-a-my-little-pony-fan/ (http://fusion.net/story/154553/how-a-16-year-old-tricked-the-new-york-times-into-reporting-that-dylann-roof-was-a-my-little-pony-fan/)

Really shows how far journalism has fallen.
Title: Re: Shooting at Black Church in Charleston
Post by: Barbarella on June 23, 2015, 06:14:24 am
Concerning the shooter. I read more about him. What a piece of work. Oddly enough, he grew up in a town that was mostly black (So you'd assume he'd know how blacks really are like) and had "friended" a bunch of blacks on his Facebook account (Why would a W.S. do THAT? A 'beard' perhaps?).

I could never figure out someone like that. Any theories?

I don't know.  Maybe he thought they were exceptions or something.

On a lighter note, I found this:

http://fusion.net/story/154553/how-a-16-year-old-tricked-the-new-york-times-into-reporting-that-dylann-roof-was-a-my-little-pony-fan/ (http://fusion.net/story/154553/how-a-16-year-old-tricked-the-new-york-times-into-reporting-that-dylann-roof-was-a-my-little-pony-fan/)

Really shows how far journalism has fallen.


And the New York Times of all things.

As a "Pegasister" (a female 'brony'), I also feel insulted that that hoaxer guy came up with than yarn concerning My Little Pony. I don't want to be associated with a bigoted mass-murdering little puke like Roof.

But I'll forgive the hoaxer. He meant well.

To the Times reporter's defense, she was stressed over writing down Roof's manifesto several times. Also, this isn't new. The Times got pranked in the early 1990's concerning "Grunge Slang".

At least the "Facebook Friends" thing is explained. They were meaningless faces picked at random....probably so Roof can add some credence to the usual "I have black friends" malarkey.
Title: Re: Shooting at Black Church in Charleston
Post by: Nightangel8212 on June 23, 2015, 05:38:39 pm
Concerning the shooter. I read more about him. What a piece of work. Oddly enough, he grew up in a town that was mostly black (So you'd assume he'd know how blacks really are like) and had "friended" a bunch of blacks on his Facebook account (Why would a W.S. do THAT? A 'beard' perhaps?).

I could never figure out someone like that. Any theories?

I read an article on Addicting Info which stated that he started turning sour when a girl he had a mad crush on started dating a black guy instead of him. One of his friends said that's what pushed him to start hating black people. I'll see if I can relocate the article and link it.
Title: Re: Shooting at Black Church in Charleston
Post by: Barbarella on June 23, 2015, 06:08:39 pm
Concerning the shooter. I read more about him. What a piece of work. Oddly enough, he grew up in a town that was mostly black (So you'd assume he'd know how blacks really are like) and had "friended" a bunch of blacks on his Facebook account (Why would a W.S. do THAT? A 'beard' perhaps?).

I could never figure out someone like that. Any theories?

I read an article on Addicting Info which stated that he started turning sour when a girl he had a mad crush on started dating a black guy instead of him. One of his friends said that's what pushed him to start hating black people. I'll see if I can relocate the article and link it.

Please find that article.

So I guess all this is over a girl. What a pathetic guy.
Title: Re: Shooting at Black Church in Charleston
Post by: Nightangel8212 on June 23, 2015, 10:02:58 pm
I couldn't find the article on addicting info, but I did find a few more articles. Apparently it was Dylann Roof's cousin who made the claim.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3133893/Was-Dylann-Roof-driven-racist-murder-GIRL-Cousin-Charleston-massacre-suspect-says-went-edge-unrequited-love-started-dating-black-man.html

Sorry about the length of the link.... >.>
Title: Re: Shooting at Black Church in Charleston
Post by: Barbarella on June 25, 2015, 04:12:07 pm
I couldn't find the article on addicting info, but I did find a few more articles. Apparently it was Dylann Roof's cousin who made the claim.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3133893/Was-Dylann-Roof-driven-racist-murder-GIRL-Cousin-Charleston-massacre-suspect-says-went-edge-unrequited-love-started-dating-black-man.html

Sorry about the length of the link.... >.>


I'm usually leery of ANYTHING by The Daily Mail and here's why.....
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Daily_Mail
http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-easy-ways-to-spot-b.s.-news-story-internet/
I'm not denying that it could be true about Roof, but the Daily Mail, to me, has been cursed with "Crying Wolf Syndrome".
Title: Re: Shooting at Black Church in Charleston
Post by: Nightangel8212 on June 25, 2015, 08:53:11 pm
Well, there's a whole bunch of articles if you google Dylann Roof girl stolen by black man... I'm not sure if they're accurate or not, but here's a link to the google search...

https://www.google.ca/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=dylann%20roof%20girl%20stolen%20by%20black%20man
Title: Re: Shooting at Black Church in Charleston
Post by: Barbarella on June 26, 2015, 01:52:59 am
Well, there's a whole bunch of articles if you google Dylann Roof girl stolen by black man... I'm not sure if they're accurate or not, but here's a link to the google search...

https://www.google.ca/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=dylann%20roof%20girl%20stolen%20by%20black%20man

Okay, thanks.  :)
Title: Re: Shooting at Black Church in Charleston
Post by: mellenORL on June 26, 2015, 10:14:52 pm
President Obama leading with his heart at the Charleston 9 memorial service.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmRAxJIa0u8
Title: Re: Shooting at Black Church in Charleston
Post by: Barbarella on June 30, 2015, 04:02:29 pm
President Obama leading with his heart at the Charleston 9 memorial service.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmRAxJIa0u8

WOW!