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Re: Dumbest Protest Signs
« Reply #3510 on: May 27, 2014, 08:29:27 pm »

To be honest it was one of the few cases where gun control wouldn't have prevented the massacre.

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« Reply #3511 on: May 28, 2014, 02:00:16 am »
Ironically, that meme is the first time I've heard anyone say anything about it being a gun issue.
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Re: Dumbest Protest Signs
« Reply #3512 on: May 28, 2014, 03:01:56 am »
In the related thread we agreed, on the first page I think, that it was pointless to discuss for those reasons in the picture. Of course for it came back up in a broader sense of proper storage of a gun in a safe or at least with a lock on it, so that children wouldn't have access to it. Not really applicable to a supposed adult though. Supposed because the fuckwit acted like an entitled little brat.
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Re: Dumbest Protest Signs
« Reply #3513 on: May 28, 2014, 03:54:12 am »
My point was actually that everyone (save the people who automatically jump to the defense of their guns at every shooting) can agree that, for once, gun rights isn't the issue at hand here considering the 137 page manifesto that shows that the issue is purely a feminist one.
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Re: Dumbest Protest Signs
« Reply #3514 on: May 28, 2014, 02:00:47 pm »
I'd be more sympathetic if people here didn't act like they knew what they were saying when they were saying something very much wrong.

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Re: Dumbest Protest Signs
« Reply #3515 on: May 28, 2014, 04:17:46 pm »
What's so wrong with that one?
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Re: Dumbest Protest Signs
« Reply #3516 on: May 28, 2014, 05:49:57 pm »
Its applying the "better safe than sorry" adage to roughly half the human population.  Its basically saying "stay away from ALL men, because SOME of them are arseholes."
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Re: Dumbest Protest Signs
« Reply #3517 on: May 28, 2014, 05:51:19 pm »
Uh... no it's not.

It's saying "This is why women are cautious around men they don't know."
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Re: Dumbest Protest Signs
« Reply #3518 on: May 28, 2014, 05:54:18 pm »
Really?  That's not the message I got.  Then again, I'm biased against pics that use shitty analogies instead of just saying what they mean.  "Women avoid men they don't know because some dudes are arseholes" is NOT a complicated message, it doesn't need simplification.  You don't need a Classic Trek-style dumbing-down of a message if the message is so incredibly simple, a four year-old could understand it.

If you absolutely have to make it into some kind of metaphor, then a better one would've been "You avoid strange animals because they might be dangerous.  Now, you know how women feel about strange men."
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Re: Dumbest Protest Signs
« Reply #3519 on: May 28, 2014, 06:17:23 pm »
Not all men.


Okay, snark aside, 1 in 3 woman will experience some form of domestic abuse, and 1 in 6 will be subjected to sexual assault or potential sexual assault. 
So yeah, while only a small minority of men are rapists and abusers women still absurdly likely to be assaulted. So no, a woman would not be unjust in being concerned when she's around men.

And yes, the poster is badly worded.

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Re: Dumbest Protest Signs
« Reply #3520 on: May 28, 2014, 06:30:05 pm »
Really?  That's not the message I got.  Then again, I'm biased against pics that use shitty analogies instead of just saying what they mean.  "Women avoid men they don't know because some dudes are arseholes" is NOT a complicated message, it doesn't need simplification.  You don't need a Classic Trek-style dumbing-down of a message if the message is so incredibly simple, a four year-old could understand it.

If you absolutely have to make it into some kind of metaphor, then a better one would've been "You avoid strange animals because they might be dangerous.  Now, you know how women feel about strange men."

Or how about reading the quote in its original context:

http://thefrogman.me/post/86871780653/the-mras-are-outraged-not-because-a-violent

And have a follow up:

http://thefrogman.me/post/86945639873/the-aftermath
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Re: Dumbest Protest Signs
« Reply #3521 on: May 28, 2014, 06:40:35 pm »
The message I got out of it was an explanation of the pointlessness of pointing out that "not all men" are assholes.
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Re: Dumbest Protest Signs
« Reply #3522 on: May 28, 2014, 07:09:55 pm »
The message I got out of it was an explanation of the pointlessness of pointing out that "not all men" as assholes.

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Re: Dumbest Protest Signs
« Reply #3523 on: May 28, 2014, 07:37:03 pm »
Truth be told, I have an inherent bias against overly-simplistic analogies.
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Re: Dumbest Protest Signs
« Reply #3524 on: May 28, 2014, 07:38:14 pm »
Truth be told, I have an inherent bias against overly-simplistic analogies.

Analogies have to be overly simplistic or else the people targeted generally won't understand them.

I'm fairly certain analogies aren't exactly meant to be an exact science.
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