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QuoteQuoteMost businessman will do everything possible to pay the least possible wage.And I don't even call that shitty - that's *what business is*.Business exists to make money. That's what it's purpose is. If they weren't trying to make money, they'd be a non-profit. A properly run business is going to do everything in it's power to make as much money as possible, because that's it's reason for existing. That's why regulation is good - it gives business an excuse not to do terrible things in the name of a buck.You're both committing a basic fallacy: good business = cheap business.While cost management is a necessary consideration for any business, so is revenue generation. A person who can generate $100k/year of revenue while getting a $50k/yearsalary is more valuable than a person who can generate $40k/year in revenue while getting a $30k/year salary. Both employees in this basic scenario will increase profitability, but if for some reason one of them had to be let go, any manager with a modicum of business skill would keep the first one and lay off the second one despite the second worker 'costing' less.And this basic example shows why minimum wages are a bad idea. Let's say a minimum wage of $45k/year is mandated. Now that same manager has to let employee number 2 go because he's costing the company more than the revenue he's earning for them. Meanwhile, employee number 1 couldn't care less about the minimum wage since he's already earning more anyway.So now E2 gets laid off and everyone complains how greedy the company is. Nevermind that the company wouldn't have made that move absent the minimum wage (remember, E2 was still a profitable company asset at 30k/year).The labor market works just like any other: price level is set by supply and demand. Start messing with that and the people who need the most help - the ones with the least market value - are going to be the ones left out in the cold.
QuoteMost businessman will do everything possible to pay the least possible wage.And I don't even call that shitty - that's *what business is*.Business exists to make money. That's what it's purpose is. If they weren't trying to make money, they'd be a non-profit. A properly run business is going to do everything in it's power to make as much money as possible, because that's it's reason for existing. That's why regulation is good - it gives business an excuse not to do terrible things in the name of a buck.
Most businessman will do everything possible to pay the least possible wage.
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Yeah but a company like Mcdonalds or Walmart which make Billions of dollars in profit a year. Billions. Won't pay their employees living wages or provide basic healthcare, when they can clearly afford to do so. What the fuck do they need billions in profits for? To open more Mcdonalds and Walmarts where they pretty much have them everywhere anyways?
You shouldn't expect to make a living wage as an entry level McDonald's employee.Living wage screams complacency and lack of hustle. Learn a trade. Climb the ladder.
QuoteIf your business cannot afford to pay your staff a living wage, then that business has failed. its really that simple.That's an incredibly broad, untrue statement.
If your business cannot afford to pay your staff a living wage, then that business has failed. its really that simple.
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More conservative silliness:QuoteYou shouldn't expect to make a living wage as an entry level McDonald's employee.Living wage screams complacency and lack of hustle. Learn a trade. Climb the ladder.QuoteQuoteIf your business cannot afford to pay your staff a living wage, then that business has failed. its really that simple.That's an incredibly broad, untrue statement.
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QuoteIf your business cannot afford to pay your staff a living wage, then that business has failed. its really that simple.QuoteI'd be interested to hear a situation where a company that cannot afford a living wage is a viable business.I try to steer very clear from the politics thread but this has to be addressed.Why should all jobs and businesses have to offer a "living wage"? Are there not people that want a job that do not need to earn a "living wage"? Would it be wrong that a business model focuses on attracting those employees? And if those that need a "living wage" take a job that does not offer one, how is that the business fault and why should the business increase wages because of that. People know what they will be paid when taking a job offer.As an accountant that used to work with multiple small businesses offering a "living wage" is not always possible. That does not mean it is failed business or non-viable. It just means that this business adds jobs for those that do not require a "living wage". As it is still possible to offer a decent wage to those who do not need a full "living wage" (students, retired, people who want a second job, spouses who husband/wife earn enough, etc). and there is nothing wrong with that. The problem is people taking jobs that were never meant to provide a living wage and then expecting them to.
I'd be interested to hear a situation where a company that cannot afford a living wage is a viable business.
To [that] point - he mentioned "students, retired, people who want a second job, spouses who husband/wife earn enough". Those are all part time jobs. I don't think anyone is claiming that a teen working 10 hours a week should be able to live on that wage. (Or even 20 hours/week). But if you're putting in your 35-40 hours (depending on how your jurisdiction does breaks)? You should be making enough to make ends meet.
