Gamers throw shitfit re: transgender character in Baldur's Gate

[davedan]

It was 35%. I might just go through the GOG comments and calculate the actual percentage, if I end up hating life enough today.

I have a cheese grater if you feel like masturbating with it. It would be more fun than that.

[Even Then]

I was bored, so I went back to the GOG reviews and tallied up every comment that had the transphobic elements that I've already explained, along with that whole "rargh a transgender character existing or social íssues being referenced means it's hamfisted SJW propaganda, muh escapism, muh status quo, minority characters aren't allowed to be fortright etc." tone. You know the tone.

In the interests of full disclosure: I got 37 out of 155, which rounds out to 24%. Below UP's arbitrary percentage, sure, but still a fourth of the comments. As for the Steam part, IIRC that uses infinite scroll and my religion forbids that annoying shit.

Oh, and:

3.  That has more to do with taking away the player's choice than anything.  Still, I can kind of see where you're coming from.

You can still kill Mizhena. This comment is whining that you're not allowed to do it at a sufficient hate crime level.

[Askold]

24% of all comments or just the negative ones?

[Even Then]

All of them, because I'm a dumbass. Oh well, I'm not going back for a redo.

[davedan]

All of them, because I'm a dumbass. Oh well, I'm not going back for a redo.

Wow you must be filled with self loathing right now. If you were black you'd be vulnerable to interracial relationships.

[Even Then]

Well, I'm white, so apparently I'm vulnerable to having my nonexistent boyfriend be fucked by a black person.

[Canadian Mojo]

24% of all comments or just the negative ones?

It doesn't really matter because we all know that if UP ever found himself on the wrong side of that 24% he would have a howling bitchfit of absolutely legendary proportions over the injustice of it all. I think the whole 'die cis scum' affair is more than adequate proof of that, but there are numerous other incidences we can all cite without even needing to mention the proverbial elephant in the room.

Other than to draw the rat out of his hole I'm not sure why we would let UP dictate what percentage constitutes a legitimate problem. It literally asks the abuser how much abuse they feel they should be allowed to give. It would be akin to asking the KKK how people they can lynch and how many crosses they can burn before it becomes a problem. UP might not actually wear the robes himself but he is certainly happy to do their laundry for them.

[Even Then]

The rat was out of its hole the moment UP posted into this thread, and I'm not letting him dictate anything. His percentage is arbitrary, his standards his own and his wilful blindness laughable.

[Askold]

Is up upset about a trans character or us he saying it's okay for others to be upset about a trans character?

He is claiming that no one is upset about a trans character and that the complaints are actually about ethics in journalism bugs in computer games.

[Even Then]

Actually, he's saying that the transphobia and general conservatism are just overblown, maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan. (Despite being 1/4 of the comments at Gog.)

I'm not saying this to defend him but because if I don't, he'll just whine about being misunderstood and this thread will spin even more futilely on its ass.

[RavynousHunter]

To hell with UPs arbitrary percentage, I have an actual way to test if something is significant, something that you can't fucking argue with: actual, real MATH.  A statistical test.  More specifically, a Z test.  I'll be marking each transphobic post as a "1," and any non-transphobic post as a "0."  The list contains 155 elements, consisting of 37 1s and 118 0s.

mu: 0.37374
sigma: 0.48626
mu₀: 0
Ha: mu != mu₀

From this, we get:

Z = 7.64743
P(Z) = 2.0685x10^-14

This means that the probability of this event happening by chance alone is infinitesimally small; we do not have enough evidence to reject the alternate hypothesis (Ha).  Statistically speaking, this must then, therefore, be due to some outside influence, the most likely culprit being targeted transphobia.  Oh, and the great thing about this?  Literally anyone can check my work.  Go ahead, if I cocked up something, let me know.

Fucking math.  It works, bitches.

[mellenORL]

24% "hurrrrr-tranny!durrrrr-SJW!" out of all the reviews, whether negative, positive, or meh? That's a massive orgy of rigid appendas agendas being thrust down dudebro throats.

[The_Queen]

To hell with UPs arbitrary percentage, I have an actual way to test if something is significant, something that you can't fucking argue with: actual, real MATH.  A statistical test.  More specifically, a Z test.  I'll be marking each transphobic post as a "1," and any non-transphobic post as a "0."  The list contains 155 elements, consisting of 37 1s and 118 0s.

mu: 0.37374
sigma: 0.48626
mu₀: 0
Ha: mu != mu₀

From this, we get:

Z = 7.64743
P(Z) = 2.0685x10^-14

This means that the probability of this event happening by chance alone is infinitesimally small; we do not have enough evidence to reject the alternate hypothesis (Ha).  Statistically speaking, this must then, therefore, be due to some outside influence, the most likely culprit being targeted transphobia.  Oh, and the great thing about this?  Literally anyone can check my work.  Go ahead, if I cocked up something, let me know.

Fucking math.  It works, bitches.

Thank you Ravy. While I'm definitely a numbers person, certain elements of statistics escape me. You actually addressed the issue with hard numbers and facts in such a way that should put the debate to rest. Thank you for taking the time, to run the numbers, and explain a complex formula to us in a way that is easily understood.

[Even Then]

To be fair, my calculations also included "hurrr SJW! social messages need to be nice and inoffensive and quiet, also this joke about our catchphrase is a declaration of holy war" alongside the transphobia. I'd go back and check what percentage of the comments contained transphobia and which ones are just general "anti-SJW" conservative fuckshittery (even though a notable amount of them had that transphobic tone to them), but I'm not quite that bored/depressed right now. Maybe later.

Or if someone else wants to take a crack at it, I salute your strength.

[Ultimate Paragon]

Actually, he's saying that the transphobia and general conservatism are just overblown, maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan. (Despite being 1/4 of the comments at Gog.)

I'm not saying this to defend him but because if I don't, he'll just whine about being misunderstood and this thread will spin even more futilely on its ass.

Because transphobia and conservativism are inherently related.  Guess that makes TERFs conservatives.