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Quote from: askold on November 10, 2014, 07:57:17 amQuote from: Art Vandelay on November 10, 2014, 02:29:47 amQuote from: askold on November 10, 2014, 02:25:33 amWhy do you people always bitch when the pope does good things?It's a very shallow PR move that's solely done to make the church seem like it's actually doing something about kiddy fiddling priests when in reality it's doing fuck all to actually fix the problem.All I see is changing the goalposts. A while ago when pope Fransiscus did something else people said he should have excommunicated kiddy fiddlers and now when he is doing just that people are complaining about him not taking the next step.The way I see it Fransiscus has done more than the previous popes and is slowly changing the Catholic church. If the change isn't as fast as you want it to be then say so rather than claiming that he isn't doing anything at all.He should establish an actual change of policy regarding kiddy fiddlers. One excommunicated priest is not a bad thing, but it's not significant if it's not a prelude to all such priests being excommunicated rather than shielded.My main criticism of Bergoglio has always been that he focuses on PR rather than reform. Excommunicating one priest could be a prelude to reform, but until it does, it's just PR. I will withhold credit until evidence of reform actually appears.
Quote from: Art Vandelay on November 10, 2014, 02:29:47 amQuote from: askold on November 10, 2014, 02:25:33 amWhy do you people always bitch when the pope does good things?It's a very shallow PR move that's solely done to make the church seem like it's actually doing something about kiddy fiddling priests when in reality it's doing fuck all to actually fix the problem.All I see is changing the goalposts. A while ago when pope Fransiscus did something else people said he should have excommunicated kiddy fiddlers and now when he is doing just that people are complaining about him not taking the next step.The way I see it Fransiscus has done more than the previous popes and is slowly changing the Catholic church. If the change isn't as fast as you want it to be then say so rather than claiming that he isn't doing anything at all.
Quote from: askold on November 10, 2014, 02:25:33 amWhy do you people always bitch when the pope does good things?It's a very shallow PR move that's solely done to make the church seem like it's actually doing something about kiddy fiddling priests when in reality it's doing fuck all to actually fix the problem.
Why do you people always bitch when the pope does good things?
Well he just demoted a top US Cardinal who was a huge advocate of treating gays like hellspawn and the Cardinal said the Pope doesn't have the authority to change the Church's teachings on homosexuality.Ironbite-uh....isn't the Pope your boss there Cardinal Bitchypants?
