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Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Reply #1305 on: July 04, 2017, 10:03:23 pm »
Can someone explain this emoluments clause and what it means to Trump?

The proper name for it is the Title of Nobility Clause. It states that no one holding government office in the United States can accept or grant titles of nobility (IE, duke, count, etc.) or monetary gifts to or from foreign representatives without the consent of congress. Ivanka Trump flat out, no question, violated this clause by accepting $100 million from Saudi Arabia and Donald Trump violated this clause AT LEAST when China granted him a trademark for his name. His insistence of using his properties for official business, the massive membership fee spike at Mar-A-Lago and that he has done nothing to sever his ties with his business are likely also violations of the Title of Nobility Clause.

The full text of the clause is as follows:

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No title of nobility shall be granted by the United States: and no person holding any office of profit or trust under them, shall, without the consent of the Congress, accept of any present, emolument, office, or title, of any kind whatever, from any king, prince, or foreign state.
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Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Reply #1306 on: July 04, 2017, 11:53:16 pm »
Yeah but is anyone actually going to do anything about it?
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Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Reply #1307 on: July 05, 2017, 12:34:41 am »
Yeah but is anyone actually going to do anything about it?

Well, there are lawsuits, but as for something that will actually do what would be done had a Democrat done it (AKA, impeachment)? Paul Ryan responded to Trump committing obvious obstruction of justice by excusing his behavior as him being new to politics. So, no. No one will actually do anything about it, at least not while the Republicans have use for him and/or power.
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Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Reply #1308 on: July 05, 2017, 09:50:06 pm »
Paul Ryan responded to Trump committing obvious obstruction of justice by excusing his behavior as him being new to politics.

Remember when the previous President was accused of being new to politics, and therefore unfit to hold office?  :P

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Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Reply #1309 on: July 05, 2017, 10:35:36 pm »
I actually forgot the Republicans tried to argue that Obama didn't have enough experience to be President. Is there anything that they're NOT hypocrites about?
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Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Reply #1310 on: July 06, 2017, 02:09:03 am »
HAH!

https://www.mediamatters.org/video/2017/07/05/hitler-said-it-best-trump-ally-michael-savage-quotes-hitler-condemn-obama/217146

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MICHAEL SAVAGE (HOST): This guy hates America! Hates us! Hates what we stand for, and you elected him, you morons, you. Well you know, Hitler said it best when he said the masses are stupid, only emotion and hatred can keep them controlled. Boy, did Obama know that. Hitler said that only emotion and hatred can keep the masses controlled. Obama sure played on it, almost from the beginning.

...Is it just me or does it seem like Trump is the one who is using hate to unite his supporters?
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Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Reply #1311 on: July 06, 2017, 07:51:27 am »
HAH!

https://www.mediamatters.org/video/2017/07/05/hitler-said-it-best-trump-ally-michael-savage-quotes-hitler-condemn-obama/217146

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MICHAEL SAVAGE (HOST): This guy hates America! Hates us! Hates what we stand for, and you elected him, you morons, you. Well you know, Hitler said it best when he said the masses are stupid, only emotion and hatred can keep them controlled. Boy, did Obama know that. Hitler said that only emotion and hatred can keep the masses controlled. Obama sure played on it, almost from the beginning.

...Is it just me or does it seem like Trump is the one who is using hate to unite his supporters?

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Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Reply #1312 on: July 06, 2017, 08:56:34 am »
HAH!

https://www.mediamatters.org/video/2017/07/05/hitler-said-it-best-trump-ally-michael-savage-quotes-hitler-condemn-obama/217146

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MICHAEL SAVAGE (HOST): This guy hates America! Hates us! Hates what we stand for, and you elected him, you morons, you. Well you know, Hitler said it best when he said the masses are stupid, only emotion and hatred can keep them controlled. Boy, did Obama know that. Hitler said that only emotion and hatred can keep the masses controlled. Obama sure played on it, almost from the beginning.

...Is it just me or does it seem like Trump is the one who is using hate to unite his supporters?

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Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Reply #1313 on: July 07, 2017, 02:39:51 pm »
They say a picture is worth a thousand words.

Trump with Merkel:



Trump with Putin:



Does anyone take Donald Trump seriously, anymore?

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Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Reply #1314 on: July 07, 2017, 02:41:38 pm »
God could he be more blatant?

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Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Reply #1315 on: July 07, 2017, 10:14:59 pm »
Angela Merkel: the hero humanity deserves, but not the one it needs right now.

The_Queen- Check that eyeroll on Putie. For a right-leaning centrist, I love me some Angela Merkel

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Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Reply #1316 on: July 09, 2017, 09:25:51 am »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rT3gVZS6Eq0

Australian political observer Chris Uhlmann: The G20 became the G19.

(Hey Aussies, how do you regard Uhlmann generally?)
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Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Reply #1317 on: July 09, 2017, 03:43:25 pm »
Apparently he's a dick but hey, stopped clock and all that.

Ironbite-also as soon as The Orange Piss Pot got home, he went golfing.

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Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Reply #1318 on: July 09, 2017, 05:26:03 pm »
The New York Times lights a fuse...

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Quote from: The New York Times
President Trump’s eldest son, Donald Trump Jr., was promised damaging information about Hillary Clinton before agreeing to meet with a Kremlin-connected Russian lawyer during the 2016 campaign, according to three advisers to the White House briefed on the meeting and two others with knowledge of it.

The meeting was also attended by his campaign chairman at the time, Paul J. Manafort, and his son-in-law, Jared Kushner. Mr. Manafort and Mr. Kushner only recently disclosed the meeting, though not its content, in confidential government documents described to The New York Times.

Now, to be fair, the Trump Team's account of the meeting is slightly different. Well, it's actually NOT different, they admit to most of it, but defend themselves by adding:

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After pleasantries were exchanged, the woman stated that she had information that individuals connected to Russia were funding the Democratic National Committee and supporting Ms. Clinton. Her statements were vague, ambiguous and made no sense. No details or supporting information was provided or even offered. It quickly became clear that she had no meaningful information.

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It became clear to me that [repealing the Magnitsky Act] was the true agenda all along and that the claims of potentially helpful information were a pretext for the meeting.

Nevertheless, this is big for three reasons:

1. This was not reported by anyone on applications for security clearance until recently (when Kushner updated his application a couple weeks ago).
2. This is the first time that we have a reported, detailed meeting between the Trump campaign and the Kremlin for purposes of collusion to influence the election.
3. While what was discussed at the meeting is in dispute, it is not in dispute that the meeting arose because the Trump Campaign wanted to obtain damaging information on Secretary Clinton (illegally hacked by the Russian Military apparatus) from a Kremlin agent. At the very least, high-ranking members of the Trump campaign were open to collusion with a foreign power to help elect Casino Mussolini.

ETA- Oh, and in other news, Trump discussed forming a cyber-security task force with Putin for purposes of ensuring our elections are safe. I don't know whether I should be flippant and add that it is akin to a fox guarding a hen-house or serious and point out Russia has a history of using apps, games, and other innocuous coding to trojan-horse malware and spyware into computers of unsuspecting users.
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Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Reply #1319 on: July 09, 2017, 05:42:39 pm »
He stood for election in the Australian Capital Territory for a.conservative party but bowed out when they got too anti abortion. Part of a general trend in the ABC where the government says "you can have your national.broadcaster so long as we can fill it with right wing trolls".