In other news, I've seen some debate about whether the shooter was actually far-right, since he expressed environmentalist and anti-capitalist sentiments in his manifesto. While I haven't read it myself, at least not yet, I'd just like to remind these people that the Nazis were critical of capitalism (considering it one of the methods the Jews used to oppress Germans, surprise surprise), as well as pretty big on animal welfare and protecting the environment.
Hey, I remember Chaos's quote, peddling the same old BS about Hitler being anti capitalist, screw the historical record which shows Nazis and Fascists got their support from big business and looked to middle class and rural voters like a conservative party would, that big business loved them because they suppressed trade unions and one of the first acts of the Nazi government was to ban trade unions in May 2, 1933. Payback perhaps for German industrialists paying the fledgling, purportedly anti capitalist NSDAP's debts when they were broke. Never mind the fact that capital actually did pretty well under the Nazis or that there are plenty of far right loons nicking lefty symbols that aren't fooling anyone.
Except those who really want, or want others to believe that, for the sake of the holy centre (which must be preserved) I guess. Prepare yourselves for pics of Nazi's with anti-capitalist friends incoming...
You're right, the Nazis were willing to buddy up with capitalists when it suited them. They were also willing to
buddy up with communists when it suited them, so I don't know what that proves, except that they believed the enemy of their enemy was their friend.
OK, that was tongue in cheek. More seriously, I said that the Nazis were
critical of capitalism, not that they were hardcore anti-capitalists. You're strawmaning me. They were willing to work within a capitalist system, but that doesn't mean they wouldn't criticize it, or that it was their ideal economic system. Many of their seemingly pro-big business policies were borne out of necessity, not as capitalist as they seemed, or both. For example, a lot of people point to Nazi privatization of industries and use it to call them "capitalist". However, not only were they motivated partly by wanting to raise funds (so they could make up for budget deficits caused by their massive military spending), this privatization was applied within a framework of increasing state control over the economy. And AFAIK, they were never in favor of a free market system.
Of course, Nazi ideas about economics were nebulous and inconsistent. Looking at the economy of Nazi Germany, it's a mish-mash of a whole bunch of different ideas.
C'mom Tol, They weren't called the National SOCIALISTS for nothing. Clearly the Nazis were left wing socialists.
By the same immutable logic that the Democratic People's Republic of Korea are Democrats, thanks Obama!
I never claimed the Nazis were socialists either. Why don't you talk about what I actually said, rather than what you
want me to have said?