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Re: "Good lord, Internet! Cut it out!" On Excessive Beiber Hate
« Reply #60 on: August 07, 2013, 07:44:00 am »
Why on Earth would any director ever ask an actor to act badly?
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Re: "Good lord, Internet! Cut it out!" On Excessive Beiber Hate
« Reply #61 on: August 07, 2013, 11:39:59 am »
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Re: "Good lord, Internet! Cut it out!" On Excessive Beiber Hate
« Reply #62 on: August 07, 2013, 11:50:52 am »
Quote from: B-Man on August 07, 2013, 11:39:59 am
Quote from: Lt. Fred on August 07, 2013, 07:44:00 am
Why on Earth would any director ever ask an actor to act badly?

I refuse to leave that as a rhetorical question.

Typecasting does strange things. Arnold had to take speech lessons when his accent disappeared after speaking english for years. His funny accent was so integral part of his acting.

In fact, some one once complained that Arnold has been panned by the critics for only playing the exact same role in every movie he ever did, but Dame Judith Dench also plays the exact same role everytime and the same critics love her.
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Re: "Good lord, Internet! Cut it out!" On Excessive Beiber Hate
« Reply #63 on: August 07, 2013, 03:48:27 pm »
Quote from: Lt. Fred on August 07, 2013, 07:44:00 am
Why on Earth would any director ever ask an actor to act badly?

Quality is not the determining factor.  Success is.

Look at how successful the Twilight movies are.
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Re: "Good lord, Internet! Cut it out!" On Excessive Beiber Hate
« Reply #64 on: August 07, 2013, 05:35:40 pm »
Quote from: Magus Silveresti on August 07, 2013, 03:48:27 pm
Quote from: Lt. Fred on August 07, 2013, 07:44:00 am
Why on Earth would any director ever ask an actor to act badly?

Quality is not the determining factor.  Success is.

Look at how successful the Twilight movies are.

As clear an example of market failure as there ever was.

We need heavy don't-be-shit regulation of the arts sector.
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Re: "Good lord, Internet! Cut it out!" On Excessive Beiber Hate
« Reply #65 on: August 07, 2013, 06:08:36 pm »
Quote from: Lithp on August 07, 2013, 06:24:32 am
Typecasting sucks.

Not necesarily, if you can crave out your own niche, and have fun doing so. It doesn't have to be all bad.
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Re: "Good lord, Internet! Cut it out!" On Excessive Beiber Hate
« Reply #66 on: August 07, 2013, 07:21:45 pm »
Bieber's a talentless douchebag. And that's all one really needs to say about him.
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Re: "Good lord, Internet! Cut it out!" On Excessive Beiber Hate
« Reply #67 on: August 07, 2013, 07:31:15 pm »
Quote from: Empress Nicki on August 07, 2013, 06:08:36 pm
Quote from: Lithp on August 07, 2013, 06:24:32 am
Typecasting sucks.

Not necesarily, if you can crave out your own niche, and have fun doing so. It doesn't have to be all bad.

But it's not something you choose. It still sucks, it just happens to not affect you as much.
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Re: "Good lord, Internet! Cut it out!" On Excessive Beiber Hate
« Reply #68 on: August 07, 2013, 10:13:49 pm »
I don't like Justin Bieber so I avoid him, yet I'm forcibly exposed to him via people who bitch about him in the YouTube comments of videos for music I do enjoy. Justin Bieber and the Jonas Brothers aren't destroying Metallica just by existing, guys. There's no need to go on a campaign to flood "Baby" with dislikes. I'm not sure what that will accomplish. Are metal fans being lured away from good music by the Pied Piper of boy bands or something? For fuck's sake.
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Re: "Good lord, Internet! Cut it out!" On Excessive Beiber Hate
« Reply #69 on: August 07, 2013, 10:55:47 pm »
Quote from: Lt. Fred on August 07, 2013, 05:35:40 pm
Quote from: Magus Silveresti on August 07, 2013, 03:48:27 pm
Quote from: Lt. Fred on August 07, 2013, 07:44:00 am
Why on Earth would any director ever ask an actor to act badly?

Quality is not the determining factor.  Success is.

Look at how successful the Twilight movies are.

As clear an example of market failure as there ever was.

We need heavy don't-be-shit regulation of the arts sector.

What has the market failed to do, exactly? Create a movie you like?
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Re: "Good lord, Internet! Cut it out!" On Excessive Beiber Hate
« Reply #70 on: August 07, 2013, 11:01:05 pm »
Quote from: Lt. Fred on August 07, 2013, 05:35:40 pm
Quote from: Magus Silveresti on August 07, 2013, 03:48:27 pm
Quote from: Lt. Fred on August 07, 2013, 07:44:00 am
Why on Earth would any director ever ask an actor to act badly?

Quality is not the determining factor.  Success is.

Look at how successful the Twilight movies are.

As clear an example of market failure as there ever was.

I fail to see how it qualifies as market failure. A lot of people wanted the Twilight movies, and that's what they got, bland characters and all. Markets cater to everyone who has the money and doesn't discriminate against morons, as much as I'd like otherwise.
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Re: "Good lord, Internet! Cut it out!" On Excessive Beiber Hate
« Reply #71 on: August 07, 2013, 11:02:41 pm »
Philosophical question for you, if "art" is heavily regulated by someone other than the artist, is it still art?
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Re: "Good lord, Internet! Cut it out!" On Excessive Beiber Hate
« Reply #72 on: August 08, 2013, 12:14:46 am »
Lt. Fred is quick to scream about how things he doesn't like are destroying society or other exaggerated bullshit.

Kinda like when he bitched about music he doesn't like.

It kinda reminds me about people who oppose gay marriage and claim it would somehow harm their heterosexual marriages if gays could marry as well.
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Re: "Good lord, Internet! Cut it out!" On Excessive Beiber Hate
« Reply #73 on: August 08, 2013, 12:29:10 am »
The quality of art is highly subjective. Whose standards would you use to determine quality? Majority rule is the only standard that might work, and that won't get you the results you want.

The solution to art you don't like is to, surprise surprise, avoid it, there is enough movies, books, music whatever out there that you ought to be able to find plenty of stuff you like, so why waste your time moaning about the stuff you don't? Just go find something else.
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Re: "Good lord, Internet! Cut it out!" On Excessive Beiber Hate
« Reply #74 on: August 08, 2013, 12:38:30 am »
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The solution to art you don't like is to, surprise surprise, avoid it

This really oversimplifies things, as art shapes other art, & art I like can become art that I hate.

I don't think that we should control the media & ban certain ideas from publication, but I also wouldn't mind a bit of quality assurance sometimes.
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