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Re: Best Political Cartoons
« Reply #4065 on: July 03, 2014, 10:52:47 pm »
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Re: Best Political Cartoons
« Reply #4066 on: July 04, 2014, 12:07:34 pm »
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Re: Best Political Cartoons
« Reply #4067 on: July 04, 2014, 12:39:20 pm »
Don't we have some sort of military protection agreement with Japan?  Like, if they were to be attacked, we'd come to their aid?
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Re: Best Political Cartoons
« Reply #4068 on: July 04, 2014, 04:15:01 pm »
South Korea has apparently already sunk under the water.
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Re: Best Political Cartoons
« Reply #4069 on: July 04, 2014, 04:24:31 pm »
Quote from: RavynousHunter on July 04, 2014, 12:39:20 pm
Don't we have some sort of military protection agreement with Japan?  Like, if they were to be attacked, we'd come to their aid?
I think the idea is that Abe wants Japan to have a true partnership with America.
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Re: Best Political Cartoons
« Reply #4070 on: July 04, 2014, 07:12:02 pm »
Quote from: RavynousHunter on July 04, 2014, 12:39:20 pm
Don't we have some sort of military protection agreement with Japan?  Like, if they were to be attacked, we'd come to their aid?

Yeah. Basically the US subsidises Japan's defence by stationing troops there, in return for money.
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Re: Best Political Cartoons
« Reply #4071 on: July 04, 2014, 08:16:30 pm »
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Quote from: RavynousHunter on July 04, 2014, 12:39:20 pm
Don't we have some sort of military protection agreement with Japan?  Like, if they were to be attacked, we'd come to their aid?

Yeah. Basically the US subsidises Japan's defence by stationing troops there, in return for money.
I think Abe wants Japan to be able to stand on its own two feet.
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Re: Best Political Cartoons
« Reply #4072 on: July 04, 2014, 10:45:35 pm »
It's not as if Abe wants to end the US-Japan alliance. Japan has been slowly moving towards ending the arrangement where the US stations troops in Japan. Instead, Japan would simply follow the model of most Western nations, relying primarily on its own troops for defense, but maintaining alliances with other nations. I think we'd see the closure of most US bases in Japan, with maybe a few to provide regional support, similar to our bases in Germany and Qatar.
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Re: Best Political Cartoons
« Reply #4073 on: July 04, 2014, 10:46:53 pm »
Quote from: Meshakhad on July 04, 2014, 10:45:35 pm
It's not as if Abe wants to end the US-Japan alliance. Japan has been slowly moving towards ending the arrangement where the US stations troops in Japan. Instead, Japan would simply follow the model of most Western nations, relying primarily on its own troops for defense, but maintaining alliances with other nations. I think we'd see the closure of most US bases in Japan, with maybe a few to provide regional support, similar to our bases in Germany and Qatar.
Basically.
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« Reply #4074 on: July 04, 2014, 10:49:18 pm »
Hell, Japan wouldn't even need to rely on US-made weapons. They did make just about everything they used in World War II - given some time, it would be well within their capability to develop a first-rate defense industry.
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Re: Best Political Cartoons
« Reply #4075 on: July 04, 2014, 10:54:06 pm »
Quote from: Meshakhad on July 04, 2014, 10:49:18 pm
Hell, Japan wouldn't even need to rely on US-made weapons. They did make just about everything they used in World War II - given some time, it would be well within their capability to develop a first-rate defense industry.
That might help their economy.
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Re: Best Political Cartoons
« Reply #4076 on: July 04, 2014, 11:01:29 pm »
Quote from: Meshakhad on July 04, 2014, 10:49:18 pm
Hell, Japan wouldn't even need to rely on US-made weapons. They did make just about everything they used in World War II - given some time, it would be well within their capability to develop a first-rate defense industry.
...Sometimes making your own equipment is not the smartest idea.

I can't help but remember that the small arms of the Japanese military in WW2 were all bad. They had one LMG that was innovative and not completely horribly but the rest of their gear was just bad. They used rifle caliber guns in their airplanes which weren't powerful enough to be a credible threat to American airplanes and their tanks weren't really good either.

...This time I'm sure they could do much better (for example, I doubt that they don't insist on placing bayonets on machineguns these days...) but their last attempts to make their own guns did not go well.
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Re: Best Political Cartoons
« Reply #4077 on: July 04, 2014, 11:02:48 pm »
Quote from: askold on July 04, 2014, 11:01:29 pm
Quote from: Meshakhad on July 04, 2014, 10:49:18 pm
Hell, Japan wouldn't even need to rely on US-made weapons. They did make just about everything they used in World War II - given some time, it would be well within their capability to develop a first-rate defense industry.
...Sometimes making your own equipment is not the smartest idea.

I can't help but remember that the small arms of the Japanese military in WW2 were all bad. They had one LMG that was innovative and not completely horribly but the rest of their gear was just bad. They used rifle caliber guns in their airplanes which weren't powerful enough to be a credible threat to American airplanes and their tanks weren't really good either.

...This time I'm sure they could do much better (for example, I doubt that they don't insist on placing bayonets on machineguns these days...) but their last attempts to make their own guns did not go well.

Well, I imagine they'd start by buying US-made gear, then gradually transition to making their own equipment. We'd probably see Japanese-made aircraft and drones well before their own guns.
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Re: Best Political Cartoons
« Reply #4078 on: July 04, 2014, 11:11:58 pm »
Quote from: Meshakhad on July 04, 2014, 10:49:18 pm
Hell, Japan wouldn't even need to rely on US-made weapons. They did make just about everything they used in World War II - given some time, it would be well within their capability to develop a first-rate defense industry.

The JSDF already has excellent equipment, much of which is made in Japan. Their diesel-electric submarines are particularly good.
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Re: Best Political Cartoons
« Reply #4079 on: July 04, 2014, 11:47:25 pm »
Japan actually makes a fair bit of their current military equipment. Your just never hear about it because they refuse to export it and it doesn't get much use because of Japan's rather small military.
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