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Re: Best Political Cartoons
« Reply #1815 on: December 23, 2012, 10:22:37 pm »
I think I can read Agni's mind on this one, Tuna.

All of his (or her, i don't know) things I've seen are only trying to debunk stereotypes about Muslims.

I'm guessing that's his "evidence" of the cartoonist in question being a jihadist.

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Re: Best Political Cartoons
« Reply #1816 on: December 23, 2012, 10:53:45 pm »
In regards to finding the artist.

Nayzak is the artist, from what I can tell: http://nayzak.deviantart.com/

Now, I know I might be wrong, but the art is similar and a few places when I did a reverse image search kept pointing me in that direction. But, assuming it is, Nayzak is indeed a creationist who has used the "Watchmaker" argument.

As for whether he is a "jihadist" is another matter. Especially since jihad is a vague as fuck term.

However, my opinion on the picture being discussed is that it brings up a point about the argument on how all women who wear the head scarf are being repressed. It is bullshit and annoying to see someone getting their jimmies all rustled because they can't handle the fact that the artist is a muslim (a little too enthusiastic for my taste too, but at least he is friendly for the most part).
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Re: Best Political Cartoons
« Reply #1817 on: December 23, 2012, 11:14:14 pm »
Agni: If that particular cartoon is wrong, then address the actual cartoon. Say why it's wrong. Talking about the author's other views just makes it look like you're resorting to ad hominem because you have no argument.
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Re: Best Political Cartoons
« Reply #1818 on: December 23, 2012, 11:16:28 pm »
It's worth noting that Nayzak, if it is him (and yes, Nayzak is male. I've spoken to him on the phone.), may be a creationist, but he's also pro-gay and doesn't believe in forced conversion.

Agni, I still want my fucking citation.
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Re: Best Political Cartoons
« Reply #1819 on: December 23, 2012, 11:20:42 pm »
Feel free to fall for propaganda by a creationist. I won't.
Since Creationism has nothing to do with the subject at hand, what is your point?

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« Reply #1820 on: December 23, 2012, 11:46:38 pm »
Feel free to fall for propaganda by a creationist. I won't.
Since Creationism has nothing to do with the subject at hand, what is your point?

My point is that you probably shouldn't trust the words of a creationist. Especially one biased in this particular matter.

Agni: If that particular cartoon is wrong, then address the actual cartoon. Say why it's wrong. Talking about the author's other views just makes it look like you're resorting to ad hominem because you have no argument.

Well, the cartoon is wrong in assuming that Nuns aren't oppressed as well

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Re: Best Political Cartoons
« Reply #1821 on: December 23, 2012, 11:53:01 pm »
Feel free to fall for propaganda by a creationist. I won't.
Since Creationism has nothing to do with the subject at hand, what is your point?

My point is that you probably shouldn't trust the words of a creationist. Especially one biased in this particular matter.

Agni: If that particular cartoon is wrong, then address the actual cartoon. Say why it's wrong. Talking about the author's other views just makes it look like you're resorting to ad hominem because you have no argument.

Well, the cartoon is wrong in assuming that Nuns aren't oppressed as well

Except, several of us have seen female Muslims who are not oppressed in any way to wear the head scarfs. Which is the whole fucking point of the picture.

Now, tell me how his being a creationist relates to this in any way? Just saying "because he is a creationist" is stupid, on par with "trust me because I'm an atheist". In some areas it might be relevant, but it isn't so in this one.

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Re: Best Political Cartoons
« Reply #1822 on: December 23, 2012, 11:53:25 pm »
Man, you've a raging hate-on for everything, don't you?
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Re: Best Political Cartoons
« Reply #1823 on: December 24, 2012, 12:34:59 am »
Rinnie what you see her buddy is an Atheist fundie.  Someone who thinks all the worlds problems are caused by religion while displaying similar characteristics to the people he says he's above.  Basically this guy

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« Reply #1824 on: December 24, 2012, 12:46:07 am »
Rinnie what you see her buddy is an Atheist fundie.  Someone who thinks all the worlds problems are caused by religion while displaying similar characteristics to the people he says he's above.  Basically this guy

Except Bill Maher can argue, even if he's arguing for crappy things.
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« Reply #1825 on: December 24, 2012, 12:48:42 am »
True.  But I cite him since he goes off on how religion makes you not believe in science and yet he thinks vaccines make autism

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Re: Best Political Cartoons
« Reply #1826 on: December 24, 2012, 01:23:33 am »
Feel free to fall for propaganda by a creationist. I won't.
Since Creationism has nothing to do with the subject at hand, what is your point?

My point is that you probably shouldn't trust the words of a creationist. Especially one biased in this particular matter.

Agni: If that particular cartoon is wrong, then address the actual cartoon. Say why it's wrong. Talking about the author's other views just makes it look like you're resorting to ad hominem because you have no argument.

Well, the cartoon is wrong in assuming that Nuns aren't oppressed as well

Either give me evidence of him being a "jihadist" or admit you don't have any. Stop ignoring people asking you to back up your argument.
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« Reply #1827 on: December 24, 2012, 01:42:36 am »
You'll be waiting a long time then.

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« Reply #1828 on: December 24, 2012, 01:53:58 am »
You'll be waiting a long time then.

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Oh. Poor persecuted Agni.
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« Reply #1829 on: December 24, 2012, 02:28:56 am »
It's worth noting that Nayzak, if it is him (and yes, Nayzak is male. I've spoken to him on the phone.), may be a creationist, but he's also pro-gay and doesn't believe in forced conversion.

Agni, I still want my fucking citation.

I have also had dialogues with Nayzak about atheism and creationism. Even though we disagree, I have never known him to be mean or condescending. He does not tolerate people who are simply angry and out to pick fights, however.
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