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Local Homophobia
« on: January 24, 2012, 08:37:42 pm »
I'll start this by saying I'm a straight, white, male, so I can avoid hate directed at me by denying my (lack of) religion. However I here obvious homophobia almost everyday at school which goes from mild(using gay as an insult) to more extreme examples, the latter of which enraged me enough today to start this thread to vent. By the way I live in rural Oklahoma so this shit is normal.

So today right before the end of school everyone was waiting to be dismissed and we were talking. One person ended up(I don''t remember how the discussion got here to begin with) saying if he ever found out where any "of those damn fags" lived he would douse their house in gasoline and light it on fire.

A year earlier I remember someone saying(paraphrased): "I don't hate gays, but, I my son turn out gay I'll kick him out on the damn street. None of them queers in my house."

Of course no one has a problem with bi and lesbian girls *eyeroll*.

Both time they said it loud enough everyone, include the teacher, could almost certainly hear it, but no one said anything. I didn't because I didn't want to get shit for it("You don't have a girlfriend, I guess you must be then huh?") and I really don't want to get in a fight I might lose (second guy was a stereotypical jock and strong). If I get into a fight I probably wouldn't stop until my opponent is  incapacitated in some manner. I hate being surrounded by ignorant hateful morons.

Your opinions? Similar experiences?
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Re: Local Homophobia
« Reply #1 on: January 24, 2012, 10:32:34 pm »
You're not going to believe this, since homophobia and gay-hate is probably my #1 Berzerk Button... but I'm not offended by use of the word gay, as in "that is so gay". Yes, I think it's juvenile and stupid, but honestly, it loses a lot of its meaning when used as a swear word. It's similar to calling something "fucking retarded" - yeah, it's not a phrase you should say, and people who are or know developmentally challenged people have every right to be offended... but in terms of "that's so gay" and shit like that, I choose not to take offense because honestly, there's enough actual hate going around for gay people, that you don't need to start going after middle-and-high-school students for the stupid shit they say.

Now, everything else you mentioned, on the other hand, pisses me off a lot more. Nobody in my high school threatened to beat me up, but they made constant accusations regarding my sexuality, which I would vehemently deny, only to inspire more shit from them. I didn't know any other gay males; the only other gay people I knew in high school were a bisexual girl who dated my friend for a while, and a lesbian who I talked about in my F&B thread.

However, that lesbian classmate ended up being a Closet Key for a Mormon girl I knew, and I later learned after they got married that her parents sent her out of state to a Straight Camp, where she was suicidally depressed until she discovered the lesbian classmate I knew loved her; with that, she escaped the Camp and hitchhiked back to our state and got together with her.

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Re: Local Homophobia
« Reply #2 on: January 24, 2012, 10:34:42 pm »
Once a girl came out as bi to her class. The very next day, I overheard a conversation about her. "She can't be bi. That's impossible." Of course that person also went on to say that lesbians aren't "real women." Her friend corrected her and said there were lipstick lesbians, but the asshat just said that lipstick lesbians are some third gender pretending to be female. Or something.
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Re: Local Homophobia
« Reply #3 on: January 24, 2012, 11:10:15 pm »
My high school was very homophobic which only drove me further into the closet to "fix" myself. One of the biology teachers openly preached homophobia (and xenophobia and creationism) during lunch and after school to the Gifted and Talent kids. Since it wasn't class time it was "okay" to do.

Even in my college years there were fucked up people. My Mormon friend from high school said that she didn't hate gay people but she believes that the government has no rights to protect our rights. Then there are those straight frat guys who says they won't help protect gay rights because it doesn't benefit them.  ::)
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Re: Local Homophobia
« Reply #4 on: January 25, 2012, 01:00:17 am »
First they came for the gays
And I did not speak up because I am not gay.

Then they came for the infertile
And I did not speak up because I am not infertile

Then they came for interracial married couples
And I did not speak up because I did not marry outside my race

And then they came for me
And there was no one left to speak up for me.
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Re: Local Homophobia
« Reply #5 on: January 25, 2012, 02:50:07 am »
I remember school being pretty ok. Unfortunately there were no openly gay people, and to be honest I was so far in the closest and self denial that I didn't even count. Now that I think about it, here in South Africa, you don't get teenagers who come out as gay because it is just not done, there is this unspoken social stigma around it. There must have been kids that were gay, but in school everyone was good Christian children.
What makes it odd is that there was no real hate speech against gay and lesbian kids. No one openly expressed any hatred or made threats. Yet gay kids either were strongly in denial (a solid possibility) or just knew or felt that they had to remain hidden. In the Afrikaans communities there is a strong dislike for gays, people will voice how they think its an abomination against god and how gays are sick and basically all the usual stereotypes. A couple will even claim that they will punch a gay, but never extreme violence.
The only real case of hate violence of against homosexuals is corrective rape, which is a huge problem but only for lesbians. I don't know of any real action taken against male homosexuals.

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Re: Local Homophobia
« Reply #6 on: January 25, 2012, 04:24:12 pm »
Consider the source.
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Re: Local Homophobia
« Reply #7 on: January 25, 2012, 05:16:16 pm »
For the entire time I have been in public school, Not once has a staff member reprimanded a student for making a homophobic comment, even when it was loud enough to be heard by everyone in the immediate vicinity.

...And I live in an east coast blue-state, for Christ's sake.

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Re: Local Homophobia
« Reply #8 on: January 25, 2012, 09:18:20 pm »
By the way I live in rural Oklahoma

I am so so sorry.  You truly have my deepest condolences.

Now, on the matter of homophobia.  There were douchy comments in high school, and my mom likes to bitch about gay people very once in a while, but is usually only provoked when she sees them on TV.  Ellen Degeneres is not exactly her favorite person.
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Re: Local Homophobia
« Reply #9 on: January 25, 2012, 10:10:33 pm »
I think you can imagine why a straight male does NOT want to discuss being non-homophobic, being a brony, and definitely being an atheist in public around here. That might be why my excess brony-ness spills out here. When really pushed about what religion I am I say I'm a member of The Order of the Invisible Pink Unicorn, which seems to tie all three of those aforementioned things together nicely.

 
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Re: Local Homophobia
« Reply #10 on: January 26, 2012, 10:41:36 am »
I use "that's so gay" to describe someone or something that's...well, gay. Two American women holding hands and smiling at each other? That is SO gay. Two American men in a full-on frontal hug with nuzzling and such? Soooo gay. Also, both of these are adorable as hell.

Of course, I only use it as such around my fellow queers, so maybe that's just a situational thing.

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Re: Local Homophobia
« Reply #11 on: January 26, 2012, 11:18:13 am »
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Re: Local Homophobia
« Reply #12 on: January 26, 2012, 11:38:26 am »
One dude on our high school football team was gay. Like, he wasn't lying about it, but he sure wasn't volunteering that fact. A guestimate of 98% of the student body was cool with it, or at least weren't uncool with it. Funny enough, it was the football team (the guys he showered with, wore tight pants with, tackled during practice) that were his biggest supporters. Anyways, one guy evidently did have a problem with dude. Dude never even heard the comment. But the quarterback and a couple pass rushers did. They "convinced" the jackass to keep that shit quiet in the future.

Oh, Dude was a linebacker. At 17, he was 6'2", 180 lbs. The kid was a cast iron beast. He averaged two sacks a game and a forced fumble every three games.
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Re: Local Homophobia
« Reply #13 on: January 26, 2012, 03:08:06 pm »
One dude on our high school football team was gay. Like, he wasn't lying about it, but he sure wasn't volunteering that fact. A guestimate of 98% of the student body was cool with it, or at least weren't uncool with it. Funny enough, it was the football team (the guys he showered with, wore tight pants with, tackled during practice) that were his biggest supporters. Anyways, one guy evidently did have a problem with dude. Dude never even heard the comment. But the quarterback and a couple pass rushers did. They "convinced" the jackass to keep that shit quiet in the future.

Oh, Dude was a linebacker. At 17, he was 6'2", 180 lbs. The kid was a cast iron beast. He averaged two sacks a game and a forced fumble every three games.

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Re: Local Homophobia
« Reply #14 on: January 26, 2012, 03:37:48 pm »
Yeah, Dude was pretty cool. He didn't really follow one stereotype. Hated show tunes, dressed in black jeans over combat boots and flannels over rock tees, wouldn't even try to dance, not organized at all, big huge Viking looking guy, drove a 25 year old Chevy truck.
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