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Germany expands flag-burning ban

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ironbite:
Should be...but isn't.  At least not in Germany.

Ironbite-which is a sovereign country and can do what it wants within reason.

dpareja:

--- Quote from: ironbite on May 20, 2020, 08:05:32 pm ---Should be...but isn't.  At least not in Germany.

Ironbite-which is a sovereign country and can do what it wants within reason.

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Isn't in most places, actually.

Eiki-mun:

--- Quote from: Sigmaleph on May 20, 2020, 05:03:02 pm ---I didn't call anyone a nazi over it, but I did specifically call this a bad idea. Flag burning should be protected speech.

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Calling this restriction a bad idea is different from calling it arbitrary though. Even if you believe it's a bad idea, you still accept that there is a purpose to it and a point to the law, I imagine. Calling them arbitrary is as if we're supposed to imagine the German parliament coming together and asking "okay so what can we ban today?"

Sigmaleph:

--- Quote from: ironbite on May 20, 2020, 08:05:32 pm ---Should be...but isn't.  At least not in Germany.

Ironbite-which is a sovereign country and can do what it wants within reason.

--- End quote ---

...yes, that's my point. It should be protected. It isn't. That's bad. Germany absolutely has every right, in practice, to pass whichever laws they want, some of those laws are bad, and this is one of them.


--- Quote from: Eiki-mun on May 20, 2020, 11:00:21 pm ---
--- Quote from: Sigmaleph on May 20, 2020, 05:03:02 pm ---I didn't call anyone a nazi over it, but I did specifically call this a bad idea. Flag burning should be protected speech.

--- End quote ---

Calling this restriction a bad idea is different from calling it arbitrary though. Even if you believe it's a bad idea, you still accept that there is a purpose to it and a point to the law, I imagine. Calling them arbitrary is as if we're supposed to imagine the German parliament coming together and asking "okay so what can we ban today?"

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Well, obviously. For the most part when governments do things it's for reasons. I even understand why people'd be tempted to ban flag burning after the relevant incident, much as I disagree with the decision.

Flag burning laws are not arbitrary. They are unnecessary infringements on free speech and often a flinch nationalistic reaction (not in this case in particular), but not arbirtary.

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