Also, I haven't seen anyone saying ALL cops are abusive. Just that those who are aren't being stopped by those who aren't.
They are in some places.Charleston, for instance. Michael Slager was fired, and he's been charged with murder.
Okay, first, it doesn't matter what people say about cops. Cops aren't an enthnic group or nationality, their a fucking line of emoloyment. Saying that cops suck is no different than saying lawyers are greedy or politician are corrupt.
I'd like you to remember that the next time somebody criticizes civil rights activists.
As far as I'm concerned if a group that has been bullied by cops for the past 150 years is going to hate cops that's fine.
No, it isn't. All it does is create a vicious cycle of animosity. Fact is, African-Americans have every right to be angry at the police, but this is a problem that can only be solved through actual dialogue and cooperation. I know that we should beware of false equivalences and the middle ground fallacy, but taking it for granted that the responsibility for fixing the problem rests entirely on one party's shoulders ain't any better.
Furthermore, calling people monsters accomplishes nothing, which is something I've touched on before.
Secondly, wow, an officer who was caught on tape shooting a fleeing unarmed man and planting evidence afterwards now faces the possibility of getting some sort of punishment. THE SYSTEM WORKS!!!
He's already been punished! He was fucking fired! And he's going on trial! What, would you rather he get lynched by an angry mob?
In fact, let's change that around:
...wow, an uppity thug who was caught on tape shooting a cop in cold blood now faces the possibility of getting some sort of punishment. THE SYSTEM WORKS!!!
You see?
And the reason that cartoon is bullshit is because
1. I have never seen any black guy on the news ever say cops are bad, like, ever.
Not in so many words, no. But "dog-whistle terms" have never been unique to the establishment.
2. The reason it's bullshit is because it's pushing the crap about how the misunderstandings and prejudices blacks have about white are just as harmfull as the ones white people have about blacks.
Tell that to Colin Ferguson's victims. Or white Zimbabweans. Or the people massacred in Haiti.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1804_Haiti_massacre
They may not be "just as harmful", at least in the U.S., but they're still harmful. You can calculate privilege all you want, but at the end of the day, they're still dead because of racism.
White people cant act like we have any seriouse grievances towards black people, but black people
have been brutally oppressed by the white establishment for 400+ years.
Jews have been oppressed for millennia, but that doesn't stop people from calling a Jew out when he/she says something less than stellar.
1.what?
2. You're right, while cops need to stop brutally raping and murdering black people then getting away scott free (with a paid vacation in the process), black people need to uhhh, stop saying mean things about cops.
To put that in non snarky terms: I don't feel that African American distrust of cops can be considered to cause police abuse.
If we were referring to racial conflicts in countries like Sudan or the former Yugoslavia I could understand the idea of feeling both sides play some role in ending violence (granted I would still dislike the cartoons portrayal of both blacks and whites for being equally at fault).
3.Okay, first off, getting fired isn't adequate punishment for shooting someone.
secondly ARE YOU TRYING TO MISS THE POINT HERE? What I am saying is that cops almost never get punished for killing people, the fact one cop might face any jail time after shooting a fleeing suspect on camera (I doubt he will after what happened with Eric Garner) doesn't mean the situation is ok, or even getting that much better really.
Also, GETTING CHARGED FOR SOMETHING =/= GETTING CONVICTED, why is that so fucking hard for people to understand?
4. Examples please?
5. I know what the Hati massacre is. I've read the danm page before.
And I suppose I should clarify here: what I meant was "In America ect. ect."
6. I said black
people as in, African Americans as a whole.
