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Title: Is Kim Jong-un dead?
Post by: Vanto on April 25, 2020, 06:16:30 pm
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/kim-jong-un-in-vegetative-state-japanese-media-report-says-2020-04-25?mod=MW_article_top_stories (https://www.marketwatch.com/story/kim-jong-un-in-vegetative-state-japanese-media-report-says-2020-04-25?mod=MW_article_top_stories)

If he is dead, we're probably not going to hear for a while. When his dad died, the North Korean government waited almost two months to announce it.
Title: Re: Is Kim Jong-un dead?
Post by: Id82 on April 25, 2020, 07:23:59 pm
None of the major news outlets are talking about it. So it's all rumors at this point. If so he doesn't have any heirs or at least any old enough to take over the country so I detect a huge power struggle coming. Unless they're just willing to let Un's sister take over the country.
Title: Re: Is Kim Jong-un dead?
Post by: ironbite on April 25, 2020, 08:06:34 pm
A North Korea lead by a woman?

Ironbite-the madness!
Title: Re: Is Kim Jong-un dead?
Post by: niam2023 on April 25, 2020, 08:41:51 pm
I guess Kim Jong Un...

...is Kim Jong Undone.
Title: Re: Is Kim Jong-un dead?
Post by: ironbite on April 26, 2020, 03:38:03 pm
*Rider Kicks you*
Title: Re: Is Kim Jong-un dead?
Post by: Vanto on April 29, 2020, 01:57:09 am
A North Korea lead by a woman?

Ironbite-the madness!

Yep. North Korea is a very male chauvinist country, so it's hard to say with certainty that a woman, even a member of the Mount Paektu bloodline, could hold supreme power. There's been speculation that if Kim really is dead, they might establish some kind of regency for his son.

Of course, there's also the possibility that North Korea might have a succession crisis that could erupt into outright civil war. This would almost certainly cause a humanitarian crisis, and quite possibly military intervention from China, South Korea and America, or both.
Title: Re: Is Kim Jong-un dead?
Post by: ironbite on April 29, 2020, 09:27:22 am
In all seriousness, his sister has long been groomed to be the next Supreme Leader in case of his death.  That's been an established fact.  And she'd be worse then Kim in all respects.  Why?  Because she's smart.  Like really really smart.  And that scares me.

Ironbite-the only reason North Korea hasn't been much of a problem is due to the dumbness of it's leaders.  She'd be an altogether different kettle of fish.
Title: Re: Is Kim Jong-un dead?
Post by: Id82 on April 29, 2020, 03:48:32 pm
How do we know their leaders have been dumb? It sounds like they've been perfectly repressing their population and trolling the united states and its allies for decades.
Title: Re: Is Kim Jong-un dead?
Post by: Askold on April 30, 2020, 01:16:36 am
There are rumours that IF he is dead, his sister might be the next in line.

Even the mere rumours of this threw some right wingers batshit nuts because they are furiously screaming that they thought that N-K was "based" but the mere thought that a woman might become the leader of the country scares them. Insert long rants about how *women* are emotional and unstable and suspectible to Jewish propaganda.
Title: Re: Is Kim Jong-un dead?
Post by: Vanto on May 01, 2020, 09:51:35 pm
There are two main reasons for the North Korean regime's continued survival:

1. Most of their neighbors are afraid of what might happen if it collapses.

2. The CCP likes having it around, both to act as a junkyard dog and to keep America and/or South Korea from establishing a military presence near the Yalu River.

The latter ties in to speculation I've heard that Beijing may have ordered Kim Jong-un's assassination because they thought he might've been moving towards warmer relations with America, South Korea and Japan.

Then again, North Korea's state media recently said (https://edition.cnn.com/2020/05/01/asia/kim-jong-un-public-appearance-kcna/index.html) Kim Jong-un appeared in public. But he's known to have body doubles and Norkie media doesn't exactly have a track record for honesty, so I'm taking this with a grain of salt.
Title: Re: Is Kim Jong-un dead?
Post by: niam2023 on May 01, 2020, 09:55:28 pm
So their media might well be covering up the fact that Kim Jong Un is Kim Jong Six Feet Underground.

Wouldn't put it past them. Wonder what the sister's like.
Title: Re: Is Kim Jong-un dead?
Post by: dpareja on May 02, 2020, 11:46:16 am
https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/north-korea-kim-jong-un-1.5553123

Well, NK media says that Kim Jong-un has made his first public appearance in almost three weeks.

Whether the photos provided are legit or file photos from some prior event remains to be seen, of course.
Title: Re: Is Kim Jong-un dead?
Post by: ironbite on May 03, 2020, 07:17:22 pm
South Korea and the United States seem to be saying the same thing.

Ironbite-I really don't want his sister in charge.
Title: Re: Is Kim Jong-un dead?
Post by: niam2023 on May 03, 2020, 07:30:13 pm
What do we know about the sister, other than the fact she's worryingly hot?
Title: Re: Is Kim Jong-un dead?
Post by: ironbite on May 03, 2020, 08:25:41 pm
She's competent.  And ambitious.  And as cruel as the rest of the family.

Ironbite-and doesn't have a lot of the health hang-ups Jong-Un has.
Title: Re: Is Kim Jong-un dead?
Post by: Askold on May 05, 2020, 12:57:00 pm
Trump sent his greetings to Kim and is apparently happy that the man is OK.

At this point that is not really surprising.
Title: Re: Is Kim Jong-un dead?
Post by: Id82 on May 05, 2020, 01:52:15 pm
Yeah. Never mind any condolences for the sixty seven thousand Americans that have died from the Coronavirus as long as Kim Jong Fat is ok.
Title: Re: Is Kim Jong-un dead?
Post by: dpareja on May 05, 2020, 10:10:23 pm
Don't forget, they fell in love.
Title: Re: Is Kim Jong-un dead?
Post by: RavynousHunter on May 06, 2020, 10:02:40 am
Don't forget, they fell in love.

Of course, they've bonded over their love of ketchup-covered steaks, quad-stack Heartstoppers from Burger Shot, and being dead within the decade of a stroke.
Title: Re: Is Kim Jong-un dead?
Post by: dpareja on May 06, 2020, 01:34:27 pm
Well-done steaks.

And, of course, their desire to build Trump Tower Pyongyang.
Title: Re: Is Kim Jong-un dead?
Post by: Id82 on May 06, 2020, 06:31:41 pm
Trump should just put his name on the Ryugyong hotel. Nobody would go to it being that it is the largest abandoned building in the world. But I'm sure Trumps Best Friend Kim can do that for him.
Title: Re: Is Kim Jong-un dead?
Post by: RavynousHunter on May 06, 2020, 09:56:00 pm
Well-done steaks.

The most done a steak can be is medium.  Any more done and you are officially committing a crime against beef and the chef has every right to piss in your glass and call it Mountain Dew.
Title: Re: Is Kim Jong-un dead?
Post by: dpareja on May 06, 2020, 10:08:08 pm
Well-done steaks.

The most done a steak can be is medium.  Any more done and you are officially committing a crime against beef and the chef has every right to piss in your glass and call it Mountain Dew.

Trump likes his steaks well-done and smeared with ketchup. FWIW I like mine medium-rare, though if it ends up a little cooler I'm not going to complain.
Title: Re: Is Kim Jong-un dead?
Post by: Id82 on May 06, 2020, 11:05:52 pm
He also eats his pizza with a fork and knife like a fucking savage.
Title: Re: Is Kim Jong-un dead?
Post by: RavynousHunter on May 07, 2020, 09:28:54 am
Well-done steaks.

The most done a steak can be is medium.  Any more done and you are officially committing a crime against beef and the chef has every right to piss in your glass and call it Mountain Dew.

Trump likes his steaks well-done and smeared with ketchup. FWIW I like mine medium-rare, though if it ends up a little cooler I'm not going to complain.

That's about how I like mine, as well.  When I was young (read: a complete imbecile), I wouldn't accept anything under medium because I was a starchy tater when it came to "muh food poisoning."  Then, I read 'bout how most of that shit's from the 1800s when our understanding of disease was about as good as our understanding of electricity, and almost all meat that's made in-country is perfectly safe to eat rare.  Still never touching anything that's blue rare.  That can fuck right off.

He also eats his pizza with a fork and knife like a fucking savage.

Only ever did that once, and that was at Shotgun Dan's.  AKA: The House of the Water Pizza.  Everybody my mom worked with recommended it really highly, but all we got was a flavourless paste of undercooked garbage and subpar toppings.  Little Caesar's is fucking better and cheaper.
Title: Re: Is Kim Jong-un dead?
Post by: ironbite on May 07, 2020, 12:13:34 pm
Blue Rare is an acquired taste if I'm being fair.  But yeah, medium-rare is the temp max for me.

Ironbite-tastes good and requires a minimum of cooking.
Title: Re: Is Kim Jong-un dead?
Post by: dpareja on May 07, 2020, 01:36:16 pm
I've known people who want it even more than blue rare, like "bring it to me mooing and blast it for a few seconds with a flamethrower" rare.
Title: Re: Is Kim Jong-un dead?
Post by: Vanto on May 07, 2020, 08:03:08 pm
I've read some speculation that this might've actually been a ploy by Kim Jong-un to see how Norkie officials would react to his possible death. If that's true, then I wouldn't be surprised to hear about a new round of purges.
Title: Re: Is Kim Jong-un dead?
Post by: ironbite on May 08, 2020, 11:58:12 am
One wonders if his sister is gonna be in that purge.

Ironbite-cause he's taken out family before.
Title: Re: Is Kim Jong-un dead?
Post by: Id82 on May 08, 2020, 02:51:42 pm
No from what I hear his sister and him are Besties having both been shipped off to the same school together in Switzerland. There's probably some kind of incestual relationship going on there.
Title: Re: Is Kim Jong-un dead?
Post by: Vanto on May 12, 2020, 01:17:32 pm
No from what I hear his sister and him are Besties having both been shipped off to the same school together in Switzerland. There's probably some kind of incestual relationship going on there.

...I don't know if that's more or less disgusting than all those idiots stanning her.
Title: Re: Is Kim Jong-un dead?
Post by: Sigmaleph on May 12, 2020, 05:40:36 pm
Honestly, given... the entirety of North Korea, "incest" seems pretty mild among things you could accuse the Kim dynasty of.
Title: Re: Is Kim Jong-un dead?
Post by: niam2023 on May 12, 2020, 08:39:39 pm
I wonder how long that dynasty's gonna last, and how long they'll keep up the facade before going full on into monarchy.
Title: Re: Is Kim Jong-un dead?
Post by: davedan on May 12, 2020, 10:41:33 pm
Is there any facade remaining that it isn't a monarchy? Albeit a socialist, juche monarchy
Title: Re: Is Kim Jong-un dead?
Post by: Vanto on June 01, 2020, 01:17:04 am
Honestly, given... the entirety of North Korea, "incest" seems pretty mild among things you could accuse the Kim dynasty of.

Well, I guess since they seem like they've been trying to imitate the god-kings of past millennia, some pharaonic-style incest wouldn't be out of the question.