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Re: Dark Enlightenment: The Neoreactionary Movement
« Reply #30 on: June 22, 2014, 05:24:09 pm »
Eh, just another group of 2edgy4me dickwads. thankfully their ideology is so stupid that it will never reach wide popularity.

Didn't people say this about the Tea Party?
The Tea Party wasn't and isn't really anything new, though. It is essentially the far right pretending they speak for the everyman. The branches of the Tea Party who do oppose the Republicans are shooting themselves and the Republicans as a whole in the foot. Open contempt for the democratic process and preference for monarchy, though, is a pretty radical idea in the context of American political thought.
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Re: Dark Enlightenment: The Neoreactionary Movement
« Reply #31 on: June 22, 2014, 05:27:15 pm »
Eh, just another group of 2edgy4me dickwads. thankfully their ideology is so stupid that it will never reach wide popularity.

Didn't people say this about the Tea Party?
The Tea Party wasn't and isn't really anything new, though. It is essentially the far right pretending they speak for the everyman. The branches of the Tea Party who do oppose the Republicans are shooting themselves and the Republicans as a whole in the foot. Open contempt for the democratic process and preference for monarchy, though, is a pretty radical idea in the context of American political thought.

True, but people still dismissed them as not going anywhere.

And now several of them are holding decently powerful political positions.
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Re: Dark Enlightenment: The Neoreactionary Movement
« Reply #32 on: June 22, 2014, 05:41:46 pm »
It never hurts to be wary.

Precisely, just because it comes from someone who looks damned silly doesn't mean they can't be damned dangerous in the right place at the right time. A frustrated, inadequate twit can be incredibly dangerous given the means. Take Saloth Sar, son of a rich farmer goes to study in Paris to become a mediocre student and later-given the right set of circumstances becomes one of the most scary mass murdering dictators of their age.

Also, Elliot Rogers for more small scale example of an inadequate twit with delusions of grandeur becoming actually lethal.

Also, Godwin accepted happily thank you very much-but still topical.


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Re: Dark Enlightenment: The Neoreactionary Movement
« Reply #33 on: June 22, 2014, 08:28:39 pm »
Eh, just another group of 2edgy4me dickwads. thankfully their ideology is so stupid that it will never reach wide popularity.
It never hurts to be wary.

The sad part is, you're not wrong.  After the Teatards, I'm wary of any crazy motherfuckers like this.
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Re: Dark Enlightenment: The Neoreactionary Movement
« Reply #34 on: June 22, 2014, 08:33:03 pm »
Eh, just another group of 2edgy4me dickwads. thankfully their ideology is so stupid that it will never reach wide popularity.
It never hurts to be wary.

The sad part is, you're not wrong.  After the Teatards, I'm wary of any crazy motherfuckers like this.

Agreed.

Though for me it was more Elliot Rodgers that cemented the idea that we should take idiotic cults and movements seriously.
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Re: Dark Enlightenment: The Neoreactionary Movement
« Reply #35 on: June 22, 2014, 08:34:10 pm »
At least, for our generation.  Things like Waco and Heaven's Gate likely did it for our parents.
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Re: Dark Enlightenment: The Neoreactionary Movement
« Reply #36 on: June 22, 2014, 08:34:41 pm »
Eh, just another group of 2edgy4me dickwads. thankfully their ideology is so stupid that it will never reach wide popularity.
It never hurts to be wary.
The sad part is, you're not wrong.  After the Teatards, I'm wary of any crazy motherfuckers like this.

If there is anything I took away from the old FSTDT site and that's that crazy motherfuckers can still be funny as fuck! That's half the reason WHY they are funny, don't ever make the mistake of writing them off as harmless though!

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Re: Dark Enlightenment: The Neoreactionary Movement
« Reply #37 on: June 22, 2014, 08:38:13 pm »
Yup, just look at the Joker.  He's funny as hell and a murderous psychopath.
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Re: Dark Enlightenment: The Neoreactionary Movement
« Reply #38 on: June 22, 2014, 08:41:16 pm »
At least, for our generation.  Things like Waco and Heaven's Gate likely did it for our parents.

Fuck, we really are doomed to make the same mistakes as the last generation, aren't we?
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Re: Dark Enlightenment: The Neoreactionary Movement
« Reply #39 on: June 22, 2014, 10:20:49 pm »
Even their beliefs are based upon a Star Wars character...

Yeah, they seem silly, but given who they aspire to, it never hurts to be wary. A good number of them are involved in technological business and such. They could potentially become dangerous. Not in a killing many people sort of way, in a Leading the NSA sort of way.

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Re: Dark Enlightenment: The Neoreactionary Movement
« Reply #40 on: June 23, 2014, 07:25:02 am »
Incidentally, I almost misread the topic title as "The Necromancer Movement."

Oh, good, it wasn't just me. Also, that would have been infinitely cooler that what we got.
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Re: Dark Enlightenment: The Neoreactionary Movement
« Reply #41 on: June 23, 2014, 07:48:37 am »
So....Basically these people are fascist nerds?

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Re: Dark Enlightenment: The Neoreactionary Movement
« Reply #42 on: June 23, 2014, 07:53:56 am »
So....Basically these people are fascist nerds?
Not exactly.  Fascism is populist, this isn't.  They're also opposed to fascism for other reasons; namely, the fact that it's a system they call "demotist", a term they use to describe somebody who rules in the name of the people.

However, the system they want would most likely be very authoritarian.

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Re: Dark Enlightenment: The Neoreactionary Movement
« Reply #43 on: June 23, 2014, 08:41:35 am »
At least, for our generation.  Things like Waco and Heaven's Gate likely did it for our parents.

Fuck, we really are doomed to make the same mistakes as the last generation, aren't we?

Not necessarily.  Waco and Heaven's Gate cost a lotta lives.  Bullshit like this may cost a few, but those would be indirect losses.  If the trend continues, then we'd prolly see a complete loss of...most of this kind of fuckery by the time we're grandparents.  It'll be a long time, sure, but we're learning.  Sometimes, unfortunately, it just takes time.

So....Basically these people are fascist nerds?
Not exactly.  Fascism is populist, this isn't.  They're also opposed to fascism for other reasons; namely, the fact that it's a system they call "demotist", a term they use to describe somebody who rules in the name of the people.

However, the system they want would most likely be very authoritarian.

Exactly, they're not fascists.  Fascists at least try to come off like they care about someone other than themselves.  These people are just plain old feudalists, while not having the self-awareness to realize that, in a truly feudal society, they'd more than likely be serfs like the rest of us.
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Re: Dark Enlightenment: The Neoreactionary Movement
« Reply #44 on: June 23, 2014, 08:57:45 am »
So....Basically these people are fascist nerds?
Not exactly.  Fascism is populist, this isn't.  They're also opposed to fascism for other reasons; namely, the fact that it's a system they call "demotist", a term they use to describe somebody who rules in the name of the people.

However, the system they want would most likely be very authoritarian.

Oh bleeding heck, so they aren't fascists because it's "too mainstream". They really are 2Edgy4U!