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hiddenfunstuff:
Hi. You probably don't know me, considering I only ever posed a few times on the old board, but I'm back.

Slightly.

Anyway, I'd like to share a chatlog from me just messing about on omegle. Why? Why not is why. Basicly, do you have any thoughts or anything about this? I'm kind of paranoid that I might not have handled it as well as I could.

Oh, and feel free to add in your own logs or anything. Might as well put them here.

(click to show/hide)You're now chatting with a random stranger. Say hi!
Question to discuss:
Do you know there are more people who believe in Allah and Mohammed than Jesus and God?

Stranger: yes

You: Wrong.

Stranger: i know

Stranger: no

Stranger: stranger

Stranger: it's true

Stranger: islam is taking over the world

Stranger: & that's just a fact

Stranger: weather u like it or not

You: According to the most recent statisitcs, christiantiy is still ahaid by about a half-billion people.

You: Then Islam.

You: Then misc.

Stranger: but it's not expanding like islam does

Stranger: only islam is expanding at this moments

You: That still doesn't make the above statement true.

Stranger: if anything christianity is getting behind because of all those childrape cases

You: Like I give a fuck, I'm an atheist.

Stranger: :D

Stranger: haha

Stranger: we're just having a convers

Stranger: no1 gives a fuck here

Stranger: not even the spy

You: And technically, allah and yahweh are the same dude.

Stranger: it is what it is

Stranger: true that

Stranger: :D

You: And they belive jesus existed.

You: Just that he was a prophet and not god.

Stranger: yeah moslims & christians & jews have much more in common than they think

You: They still flip out and kill the fuck out of each other at the drop of a hat.

You: Religions of peace, my ass.

Stranger: yeah.. what a shame

Stranger: i'm not gonna htae god, just because people are retarded,

Stranger: *hate

You: I can't hate something that doesn't exisit.

Stranger: :D

Stranger: the only thing im 200% sure of, is the existence of god

Stranger: :D sorry

You: I am 99.9999999999(repeating) sure that there isin't a god.

Stranger: :D

Stranger: ok

Stranger: let's just for a second

Stranger: say that god exist

Stranger: & hell & heaven also exist

Stranger: just go with me

Stranger: but u deny it

Stranger: sory for my bad english, i speak dutch

Stranger: & u dy

Stranger: u die..

Stranger: u'll go 2 hell

Stranger: is that a chance u're willing to take

You: Pascall's wager. Such a tired old argument. Yes. Very much yes. Cause if there Is a god that thinks that eternal torment is a just responce to finite sin, i would have no part in folowing it.

Stranger: finite sin?

Stranger: what is that

Stranger: that people are born with sin?

You: No, not at all. Finite means not infinite.

Stranger: ow ok..

You: Though the idea of original sin is fucking evil as well.

Stranger: so you're ok with being tortured eternally for the sins u made

Stranger: yeah i'm not ok with that neither

Stranger: it doesnt make any sense at all

You: If there was a god as is described in the bible, i would not worship it. Bit of a moot point considering that there isin't a god, but still.

Stranger: islam says that we were only created 2 worship god

Stranger: that's our only task

Stranger: im muslim btw :D

You: So god is a giant asshole that created a species of intelligent sentients only to stroke his ego for eternity?

Stranger: :D

You: I am not comfortable with that.

Stranger: your opinion about it doesnt matter, you just do what god told u to do :D

Stranger: i know that sounds like slavery

Stranger: but i know he has a good reason for all of this

You: So even though i am supposably follwoing god's will, i still go to hell for not believeing in it, even though it made me to not belive in it? That's fucked up.

You: That is royally fucked up.

Stranger: what , no ofcourse not.. by not worshiping him, u're not following his will

Stranger: therefor u go 2 hell :p

Stranger: but you know what islam also says

Stranger: you could be the worst guy that ever lived in this planet, you could still get in heaven cus of his grace

You: Now that's still fucked up.

Stranger: a perfect muslim can go 2 hell eve,n though he gave his whole life worhsinpin god

Stranger: it's all about ur intention

Stranger: god sees what's in ur heart & how you think

Stranger: & if you just take the time 2 read just a couple of verses of quran, u'll just feel that its gods words, i swear

Stranger: im a convert

You: So god is an asshole that arbitrarily damns people for that which is outsite ther control.

Stranger: no, you have a will, & you have the ability to choose

You: I have read a lot of the quran by the way.

Stranger: so it's all up 2 you

You: What is the point of free will then?

Stranger: really? that's cool that you're openminded.. i love that

You: Is it just to torture these flesh puppets god made for it's own amusement?

Stranger: no, i don't think that way

Stranger: you're seeing the whole thing way too negative

You: Seriously, if god did exist there is no way I could follow a monster like that.

Stranger: i don't know why

Stranger: what monster?

Stranger: all he asks us 2 do, is to worship him

Stranger: after all he created us

Stranger: what s sooo hard & cruel about that

You: Liek you said, it's all about intentions. Why did god do any of that?

You: What does it gain him, if not merely an amusing bauble to look at?

You: Why even bother with a heaven and hell?

You: Why bother with free will?

Stranger: you don't know all the answers.. you don't have too.. submitting to god , means you follow him in everything he says no matter how unreasonable it may seem, it's not like he's asking us 2 kill people or wahtever.. all he asks from us, is 2 be good in every way possible

You: If it's just for his own glory, how is that a resonable motive?

Stranger: it may seem pointless to you now.. but you re only human, maybe after you die, it will all become clear, & u ll understand more why u had 2 worship him..

You: If he wanted us to be good then why didn't he build us to defult to that?

You: Only human?

You: ONLY HUMAN?

Stranger: we are limited :d the quran god says, he only gave us just a liiiiittle bit of knowledge & it's proven that we only use 1% of our brains & look how far that brought us

Stranger: that's the free will... he wants to see if we're worth entering the heaven

You: Fuck you and your cult for devaluing human existance to being the mere, unworthy playtoys of some cosmic jackass.

Stranger: :D no need 2 insult

Stranger: if you can't keep up the converstation, just disconnect

You: and all fo your brain is used.

You: Just not all at the same time.

Stranger: bye now.. have a good life

Stranger: i didnt mean to offend you in any way

Stranger: i'm just telling you my side of the story

You: When you meet oblibion at the end of your life you will see how you wasted your only chance at existance.

You: Pandering to your own superstition.

Stranger: i can use that same sentence agianst you :D.. only u loose eternally

You: Proof?

Stranger: proof that god doesnt exist?

You: Proof that there is anything after death.

Stranger: u & i both can't proove our points.. that's it .. it's all about faith

You: Proof that there is a spititual aspect to the universe.

You: Without proof, why should I believe?

You: Doesn't that seem stupid?

Stranger: god doesnt need you

You: So why did he make me then?

Stranger: you need him, believe me

Stranger: 2 worship him

You: What does he get out of that?

Stranger: this is getting boring :D .. i know how u feel bout it, & u know how i feel about it

Stranger: end of story

You: Does he NEED worship?

Stranger: no, he already knows weather u're going 2 hell or to heaven

You: So why make people that go to hell?

Stranger: but he let's you live ur life so that you can be your own proof

Stranger: so that you wouldnt say, he misjudged you

You: Does he get off on seeing people in pain?

Stranger: get off?

You: Whatever deities have for that i don't know.

Stranger: everyone is going to get his reward.. no pain is lost in this world

You: Let me ask you something.

You: Does he want eveyone to go to heaven?

Stranger: it's getting late & i have class tomorrow morning

Stranger: the ones who truly deserve it

Stranger: it's 2.23

Stranger: where you from?

You: Australia.

Stranger: ok what time is it now there

You: 10 am.

Stranger: ow lucky you

Stranger: i only have max 3 hours 2 sleep

Stranger: sorry for whatever i said

Stranger: i have 2 go

You: It's fine, i just hate what your beleif system does to people.

You: I don't hate you, per se.

Stranger: tnx best wishes bye.. just don't think of everything 2 black & white

Stranger: :D tnx haha

Stranger: appreciate it

Stranger: but i never felt peace untill i converted :D so don't feel sorry for me

You: Peace.

You: Right, i'm out. File this one with the other 30 chats that wound up exactly the same.

Stranger: i didnt get the last sentence

Stranger: but what ever :s

Stranger: damn i have 2 get better in english, this is getting frustrating

You: Hey, you aren't the first one to argue your faith to me. And you won't be the last.

Stranger: haha actually this is the first time i argued with some1 bout my believes

Stranger: i normally just live & let live

You: If you're an atheist, you kind of just attract this kind of stuff.

Stranger: i mean, i don't have the tendency 2 convert people into my believes

Stranger: haha

Stranger: muslims too .. i don't look like a muslim

Stranger: so no1 notices anything.. it's between me & my creator, no1 has 2 know

You: That's a pretty healthy stance to take. You're still silly for beliving in a farytale, but at least you avoid conflict with those that don't share you view.

Stranger: it's just that we're anonymous here, & that spy asked that question, & i was like why not

You: Kudos to you.

Stranger: :D i don't like it though that u think i believe in a farytale.. i'm not retarded, it may sound that way because of my bad english :p

You: And I don't like it that you think that any person is deserving of eternal torture. But I don't blamy you, I blame your beliefs.

Stranger: i also said that no1 is guaranteed a place in heaven, even the most perfect muslim

Stranger: it's all about our intentions

Stranger: like there s this story i like

Stranger: if u have 5 more min?

You: I have as much time as I want.

Stranger: this prostitute went 2 heaven because she once fed a cat/ a muslim woman went 2 hell because she held a cat at her home & never fed him till he died of hunger & thirst

Stranger: these are stories told by the prophet, it kinda shows that all that matters is how pure your heart is

Stranger: point being

You: Well then I'm going to heaven, cause I can't stand crualty.

Stranger: haha hope so 2

Stranger: but u have 2 admit there's a god :p

Stranger: or is ur ego so big?

You: Ok then I'm going to hell despite being a good person. Or, far more likely this consept i call 'me' will end when my organic cercuitry breaks down.

You: Regardless of what I did.

Stranger: :D who knows what god has in petto for u

You: Well he better make a good excuse for himself, is all I'm saying.

Stranger: only god will judje what 2 do with your soul

Stranger: haha

Stranger: how old r u

You: 19.

Stranger: me 2

Stranger: nice chat

Stranger: gotta go

Stranger: bye take care

Your conversational partner has disconnected.

Osama bin Bambi:

--- Quote ---Fuck you and your cult for devaluing human existance to being the mere, unworthy playtoys of some cosmic jackass.
--- End quote ---

I'm surprised he didn't flip out at you when you said this...

Eniliad:
Yeah, you weren't getting anywhere with that guy fast. He was impervious to logic. :P

hiddenfunstuff:

--- Quote from: Wykked Wytch on May 07, 2012, 10:04:00 pm ---
--- Quote ---Fuck you and your cult for devaluing human existance to being the mere, unworthy playtoys of some cosmic jackass.
--- End quote ---

I'm surprised he didn't flip out at you when you said this...

--- End quote ---

Yeah, I did too. Kinda lost my temper there.

Art Vandelay:
Try Omegle Video. Let's just say you'll certainly get less religion.

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