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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #1080 on: August 26, 2013, 02:03:29 pm »
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #1081 on: August 26, 2013, 02:27:30 pm »


Your typical argument with a SJW.

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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #1082 on: August 26, 2013, 02:33:21 pm »
I think this is maybe semi-relevant to the discussion?

Not at all surprising; comfort eating is, I'm sure, quite common in the depressed, and many (if not most or all) targets of fat shaming have proper, clinical depression because of it.  Fuck, its probably one of the sources of MY depression.  And intense, furious hatred for bullies.
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #1083 on: August 26, 2013, 02:51:17 pm »


Your typical argument with a SJW.

Looking at the name of the author, I'm pretty sure this is Sinfest.

So I can't tell if we're supposed to be sympathizing with the kid who's facing a wall of words, or the girl for being a "brave feminist."

I think this is maybe semi-relevant to the discussion?

Not at all surprising; comfort eating is, I'm sure, quite common in the depressed, and many (if not most or all) targets of fat shaming have proper, clinical depression because of it.  Fuck, its probably one of the sources of MY depression.  And intense, furious hatred for bullies.

...Oddly, same for me, even though I've never been personally bullied for it.

Just the fact that it happens to other people who are fat (and especially the people who aren't nearly as fat as I am, or who aren't even fat at all) makes me depressed and pissed at bullies.
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #1084 on: August 26, 2013, 04:56:49 pm »
Looking at the name of the author, I'm pretty sure this is Sinfest.

So I can't tell if we're supposed to be sympathizing with the kid who's facing a wall of words, or the girl for being a "brave feminist."

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« Reply #1085 on: August 26, 2013, 07:40:43 pm »
I knew it was pretentious crap, but I didn't realize just how pretentious crap it is.  Wow.
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #1086 on: August 26, 2013, 08:29:19 pm »
Personally, I think the idea of "women's only spaces" is ridiculous. Besides the fact that it's very anti-trans, it seems to perpetrate this idea that women are always kind and respectful to all members of their gender. Which is wrong. Along with the idea that it's only men who are sexist fetishists porn watching pigs, which is also wrong.

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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #1087 on: August 26, 2013, 09:30:13 pm »
Depends on the women's only spaces. Some of them are meant to protect battered women.

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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #1088 on: August 26, 2013, 09:45:19 pm »
Honestly, I seen nothing wrong with the race one. It's got a point.
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #1089 on: August 26, 2013, 09:54:22 pm »


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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #1090 on: August 26, 2013, 09:58:08 pm »
Hey, it's rapbattler!  I follow him (though admittedly I've been thinking of unfollowing for various reasons).

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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #1091 on: August 26, 2013, 11:27:58 pm »
Depends on the women's only spaces. Some of them are meant to protect battered women.

Yeah, keeping spaces gender-specific for abuse shelters or abuse/rape survivor groups makes sense. This goes for both female and male groups.

When my mom, brother and I were staying in a women's shelter when I was a kid, all visitors had to check in at the front desk, but adult males (male children were, of course, allowed to move in with their mothers) had to go through extra checks and whatnot before coming onto the premises as an extra security measure to protect the women/child living there from their abusive exes.

Of course, a bunch of people whine about this kind of stuff, but really, when one of the major at-risk groups among women for being assaulted or murdered are women who are in the process of leaving an abusive partner, protecting them from that kind of harm kind of takes precedence over upholding some vague gender-equality principle.

Mind you, it does get complicated when you factor in lesbians who are escaping an abusive partner. Likewise, for theoretical male shelters (which I'd have zero problem with), being that male-on-male domestic violence seems to be more common than female-on-male. Unfortunately, I don't have a perfect solution, and I doubt anyone does.
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #1092 on: August 27, 2013, 12:52:15 am »
Male on male abuse is messier than giving non-toxic finger paint to a toddler, thanks a lot to internal and external problem. There is the societal expectation that men can never be a victim, that if you are a victim you must be "weak". Then you internalize the problem and start thinking it was your fault for not being "manly" enough. And unfortunately gay men's culture internalized a lot of that. Then on top of that, the common toxic relationship aspect compounds on it like "well maybe he didn't mean it" and the oh so common "he'll change". For gay men, too, there is the fear that your sexuality contributed to your abuse and that you're proving the bigots right. So tying this to what Mlle posted, I feel gender and sexuality exclusive space should be used for things like abuse shelter. You need the space to properly address the challenges that certain groups space because they're not going to be the same and the experience isn't going to be the same.
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #1093 on: August 27, 2013, 01:59:26 am »
There's a sense of self-flagellation in Sinfest these days.  I think a lot of it comes from Tatsuya looking back at his early work, and realizing how misogynistic and racist he was at times.  I think the issue now is that he's gotten so focused on "making up" for his previous work, that it's no longer focused on being entertaining.
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #1094 on: August 27, 2013, 12:09:21 pm »
So basically like a born again Christian.

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