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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #1500 on: September 25, 2013, 08:07:19 pm »
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #1501 on: September 25, 2013, 08:15:30 pm »
Only the first one is new. The person claimed they made a new blog to correct people on how their interactions with the trans* community are going.

The others came from four separate blogs that looked to have been running for awhile.



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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #1502 on: September 25, 2013, 08:19:09 pm »
In reference to the big list there: first, Jews are the most privileged ethnicity? Something tells me that this person believes all the "Zionist conspiracy" BS. Second, are they actually saying Native Americans are ore privileged than blacks? Cause the poverty levels on the reservations say otherwise.
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #1503 on: September 25, 2013, 08:55:34 pm »
Also, apparently this person believes that a gay black guy has more privilege than a straight white chick.

And if this is truly intersectional, why is this person insisting that there are only four qualifiers when mapping out privilege? What about class, disabilities, religion, etc.? Or, you know, being truly intersectional and recognizing that social dynamics differ from region to region?

... or not forgetting to include Middle Easterners and South Asians (India, etc.) in the racial groups you list? (I'll be generous and assume that Aussie Aboriginals, Maori and indigenous South Americans were included under "Native"... although that opens a whole new can of worms with the privilege rankings...)
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #1504 on: September 26, 2013, 12:47:28 am »
I am willing to admit that there is a thing called "privilege" but that long list of privileges...

Yeah, no. When you take several opressed groups and start complaining that x is 2.3% more privileged than y you are not really helping anyone. In fact rather than complaining about how "that person is on level 13 of privileges while I'm down on level 18!" causing a divide between opressed groups you could try to unite them or even appeal to everyone (wether they themselves are opressed or not) and try to help EVERYONE be equal.
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #1505 on: September 26, 2013, 01:15:35 am »
They're treating privilege and oppression as though it's linear. It's not. Treating like its linear is just oppression Olympic.
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #1506 on: September 26, 2013, 01:17:21 am »
Actually, Jewish is at the bottom of everything except straight cis males, where it's at the top. I'm not sure why.

Also, the privilege list doesn't mention bisexuality at all.
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #1507 on: September 26, 2013, 01:21:58 am »
They're treating privilege and oppression as though it's linear. It's not. Treating like its linear is just oppression Olympic.

This. There are way too many factors involved to ever pin down some kind of precise privilege hierarchy.

Also, the privilege list doesn't mention bisexuality at all.

I remember one stupid privilege quiz that had bisexuals at +10 privilege (straight people were +20) because they figured that they'd have half of the privilege straight people did. Gay people were at something like -30 privilege, making the ranking system even wonkier.

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Actually, Jewish is at the bottom of everything except straight cis males, where it's at the top. I'm not sure why.

Having traits vary in order would actually make more sense, given that they can intersect in strange ways. Of course, cis male Jews being at the very top while Jewish people are at the bottom of all other rankings makes no sense and is probably just a screw-up on the creator's part, so they get no credit on that one.
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #1508 on: September 26, 2013, 01:24:45 am »
I remember one stupid privilege quiz that had bisexuals at +10 privilege (straight people were +20) because they figured that they'd have half of the privilege straight people did. Gay people were at something like -30 privilege, making the ranking system even wonkier.

I saw that too. You'd think it would be -5.

That quiz also ignores anti-bisexual sentiments in the gay/lesbian community.

Another problem on the list: Cis people can be male or female, and either gay or straight. Trans people have neither a gender or sexuality listed. It's like "trans" is its own gender (no difference between MTF/FTM? Seriously?) and sexual orientation combined into one.

On that note, "trans" is often used as if it were a sexual orientation, as if it were merely another option among hetero/homo/bi/asexual. That's not true at all. Gender identity and sexual orientation are completely separate from one another and a trans person can be attracted to men, women, both, or none just like everyone else.

I think the acronym "LGBT" may be partially responsible for this misconception, as it suggests that "T" is in the same category as the other three letters.
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #1509 on: September 26, 2013, 01:35:07 am »
Long story short, anyone who tries to make a hierarchy based on intersectionality clearly doesn't understand what intersectionality actually is, being that the whole point of it is that traits can combine in unpredictable ways, leading to unique and unquantifiable experiences.
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #1510 on: September 26, 2013, 01:35:19 am »
Well, there's also The Guardian's privilege quiz.

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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #1511 on: September 26, 2013, 01:37:00 am »
*NSFW link*

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http://www.theguardian.com/society/quiz/2013/jun/05/check-your-privilege-quiz This is the actual link.

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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #1512 on: September 26, 2013, 01:46:19 am »
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #1513 on: September 26, 2013, 01:55:52 am »
100 out of 150.

I guess the few things I have to fear anymore are... some of these wackos mentioned throughout this thread.

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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #1514 on: September 26, 2013, 02:10:14 am »


The self-righteousness here is particularly infuriating when you get to the bottom and see that this was written by a guy.
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