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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #1545 on: September 28, 2013, 02:30:13 am »
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #1546 on: September 28, 2013, 07:34:20 am »
Intelligence can't be accurately quantified anyways.

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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #1547 on: September 28, 2013, 09:09:39 pm »
Intelligence doesn't even have a well-agreed definition, so of course it's going to be difficult to quantize it accurately. If I had to venture a guess, I'd say it's more a vector than a scalar.

Still, whatever it is IQ tests measure, there's significant evidence that they measure something, and that something has some correlation with intelligence. A test doesn't have to be perfect to be useful, if given the proper weight.

To paraphrase a quote, the source of which I've forgotten: if you can't measure what really matters, you measure what you can and hope it turns out to be relevant.
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #1548 on: September 29, 2013, 12:08:18 am »
I've taken the IQ test a few times and always gotten 130, but some areas are consistently much higher than the average while relatively low, so the average score is a little misleading.

Unfortunately, the test results were also used by my school district to "prove" that I was supposedly "too smart" to have a learning disability.
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #1549 on: September 29, 2013, 12:26:04 am »
IQ tests can provide a fairly accurate (if imperfect) prediction of a person's adeptness in a variety of areas, but there are a couple things to keep in mind:

1) An IQ test can only be considered usefull if it's standardized, accepted by the academic community, and administered by someone who is properly trained. Online IQ tests are fun to play around with and compare with friends, but they're not particularly meaningful.

2) The further someone deviates from the norm, the less accurate the results will be. Once you get over the 150s, the scores start to become pretty meaningless, with the only real result being "this person is really fucking smart".
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #1550 on: September 29, 2013, 12:26:05 am »
That reminds me for some god-forsaken reason I had to take an IQ test to prove I needed help from the disability office at college as well as just simple placement. Even tho my disability is not only in my head but physically as well.

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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #1551 on: September 29, 2013, 01:36:53 am »
I've taken the IQ test a few times and always gotten 130, but some areas are consistently much higher than the average while relatively low, so the average score is a little misleading.

Unfortunately, the test results were also used by my school district to "prove" that I was supposedly "too smart" to have a learning disability.

I tested high on an IQ score (Though the exact number escapes me, as it was quite a few years ago), but I was still confirmed to have a specific learning disability in Math. 

I think it depends on how your scores (and the area they're in) stack up to the average of people around you in the same age/grade level.   Beyond college in most, but bloody 6th grade level in math.  Blargh.

I think IQ (at least how I understand it) is measured mostly by the amount of information you can take in, retain, and spit back out again.   I'm probably wrong though as I've not really had to think about it much.  I don't give it much credence to the actual 'intelligence' of a person or lack of.  I've seen geniuses that were dumber than bags of hammers.

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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #1552 on: September 29, 2013, 02:40:33 am »
I've taken the IQ test a few times and always gotten 130, but some areas are consistently much higher than the average while relatively low, so the average score is a little misleading.

Unfortunately, the test results were also used by my school district to "prove" that I was supposedly "too smart" to have a learning disability.

I tested high on an IQ score (Though the exact number escapes me, as it was quite a few years ago), but I was still confirmed to have a specific learning disability in Math. 

I think it depends on how your scores (and the area they're in) stack up to the average of people around you in the same age/grade level.   Beyond college in most, but bloody 6th grade level in math.  Blargh.

I think IQ (at least how I understand it) is measured mostly by the amount of information you can take in, retain, and spit back out again.   I'm probably wrong though as I've not really had to think about it much.  I don't give it much credence to the actual 'intelligence' of a person or lack of.  I've seen geniuses that were dumber than bags of hammers.

Also there are some geniuses who lack practical skills, such as the drive to actually organize themselves and use their wits to achieve something. Some of them focus only on their strengths and neglect anything they are average or below-average at, which results in an unbalanced skill set unsuited for most jobs. And since many schools and employers prefer well-rounded prospects, this can shut them out of many opportunities.
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #1553 on: September 29, 2013, 02:44:42 am »
Also there are some geniuses who lack practical skills, such as the drive to actually organize themselves and use their wits to achieve something. Some of them focus only on their strengths and neglect anything they are average or below-average at, which results in an unbalanced skill set unsuited for most jobs. And since many schools and employers prefer well-rounded prospects, this can shut them out of many opportunities.

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Re: Worst of Social Justice
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #1555 on: September 29, 2013, 03:35:12 am »
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #1556 on: September 29, 2013, 04:13:15 am »
Damn. Do these people really mot realize the irony of claiming to represent the oppressed while at the same time hating someone simply for what they are? What does it take to even inflict that level of hostility?
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #1557 on: September 29, 2013, 08:27:13 am »
I dunno my exact IQ number, I could never be arsed to take the exam.  I do, however, remember when I met my first psychiatrist when I was in...4th grade, methinks.  The first thing he did was give me a general intelligence test, and the results said I was college level in most aspects, while still being in elementary school.  Make of that what you will.
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #1558 on: September 29, 2013, 01:07:11 pm »
Also there are some geniuses who lack practical skills, such as the drive to actually organize themselves and use their wits to achieve something. Some of them focus only on their strengths and neglect anything they are average or below-average at, which results in an unbalanced skill set unsuited for most jobs. And since many schools and employers prefer well-rounded prospects, this can shut them out of many opportunities.

This, everything you've said here, is my weakness in life.

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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #1559 on: September 29, 2013, 01:11:32 pm »
Damn. Do these people really mot realize the irony of claiming to represent the oppressed while at the same time hating someone simply for what they are? What does it take to even inflict that level of hostility?

It's the strange condition in being "not the smartest bunny in the meadow".