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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #2130 on: December 31, 2013, 11:25:17 pm »


Wait, what?



Yep, that's how you make a difference alright.



Yes, only white girls do those things. You are correct.

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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #2131 on: January 01, 2014, 10:19:46 am »


Yes, only white girls do those things. You are correct.

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Re: Worst of Social Justice
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #2133 on: January 01, 2014, 05:33:34 pm »
* QueenofHearts sighs

here we go...

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A number...

such as the first amendment.
I would like to propose the banning of alcoholic beverages. My argument: the 21st Amendment.

And what exactly is your point? That constitutional guarantees of rights are not absolute? Cause I knew that from Schenck v. United States. Or that the constitution can be amended and portions removed? Cause I knew that too. Quite frankly, I fail to see the point you're trying to make.

The argument he's making is that "the Constitution says" isn't a proper argument. People wrote the constitution. They might have been wrong. Were they not? Okay, make an argument to that effect.

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And I answered the question. I presented a reason why they couldn't be implemented in the United States, because they're unconstitutional. In the link you posted, if you look at it, it mentions Brandenburg v. Ohio. That is a staple of free speech law in this country, if a I recall, a 9-0 decision. I would be surprised if it is overturned in our lifetimes. But of course, then you goalpost shift by saying, "well, lets ignore this reason, now why can't we?".

See, you haven't actually shown this. You've shown that it's unconstitutional, not that it is a bad idea. They are not synonymous.

Is there any argument against it that isn't a slippery slope fallacy?

Here's one: it doesn't work.
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #2134 on: January 01, 2014, 06:30:00 pm »
Fred, I see what you're saying, but that is not the question I (or the board) was asked. Thing is, you change the question, you change the results. The question the board was asked was

Is there any argument against [implementing hate speech laws in America] that isn't a slippery slope fallacy?

And I gave an argument against such, that it is unconstitutional. I cited Brandenburg for a good reason, because it specifically dealt with hate speech. I'm making a practicality argument, that such laws will never be made in this country in our life time. If he didn't want someone pointing out the legal faults with such laws, he should have qualified his question to reflect as much. I never intended to get into the policy side of such a debate because I'm just not interested in it.

I answered this question alone because Sleepy answered the vagueness portion of it. Fact is, I'm curious how one could write a hate speech law and not be vague about critical portions of the law (because if a law is too vague on certain points, it will be ruled unconstitutional on the grounds it gives too much power to police and the state).

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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #2135 on: January 01, 2014, 07:09:27 pm »


Holding grudges isn't good for your mental health.



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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #2136 on: January 01, 2014, 07:16:39 pm »
Ew ew ew.
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #2137 on: January 01, 2014, 07:30:05 pm »


This person must be a riot at parties.



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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #2138 on: January 01, 2014, 07:31:42 pm »
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #2139 on: January 01, 2014, 08:34:08 pm »
Because it falls under sex positivity as well as body positivity but done wrong, I guess.

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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #2140 on: January 01, 2014, 08:57:54 pm »


Don't know why this is here as it's completely devoid of context. For all we know, that person could've been emotionally abused or some such.
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #2141 on: January 02, 2014, 12:58:58 am »
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"Masturbation is something that we all do and it hurts no one so it is not wrong. It is natural and beautiful."

I’m going to fucking stab someone. There’s nothing beautiful about being a selfish slut and no, not everyone does it. Fuck you and your sex normative bullshit.

I can't get a handle on this guy's tumblr to determine whether this is a fake or not.  He claims to be 18 and an emo.

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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #2142 on: January 02, 2014, 01:06:47 am »
He is a...tantalizing...target.
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #2143 on: January 02, 2014, 01:44:28 am »
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"Masturbation is something that we all do and it hurts no one so it is not wrong. It is natural and beautiful."

I’m going to fucking stab someone. There’s nothing beautiful about being a selfish slut and no, not everyone does it. Fuck you and your sex normative bullshit.

I can't get a handle on this guy's tumblr to determine whether this is a fake or not.  He claims to be 18 and an emo.

Sounds like one of them anti-sex fundies to me.
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #2144 on: January 02, 2014, 03:42:42 am »
There's a fine line between sex positivity and asexual shaming...
...and another one asexual positivity and sex shaming.
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