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Offline The Right Honourable Mlle Antéchrist

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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #2445 on: February 01, 2014, 01:38:36 am »
I don't think there's a straightforward answer when it comes to animals doing the penetrating. The animal isn't being physically harmed (or if they are, it's obviously wrong) and they're not going to suffer psychological trauma in the way humans do (highly intelligent animals like apes might be an exception to some small degree, though again, I doubt any psychological effects would come close to the profound PTSD experienced by humans). That said, informed consent is still going to be an issue. There's also concern about zoonotic diseases, but that opens the whole "well what about humans spreading disease to each other, which is much more likely?" can of worms.

Humans penetrating animals, however, is straight up immoral.
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #2446 on: February 01, 2014, 02:09:54 am »
*stretches hand out* Ehh...

*stretches hand out with a foot long stick* Ehhhhh...

*stretches hand out with a ten foot long stick* Ehhhh-- *drops stick* Whoops.

Nope, I can't touch this subject.  Not even with a ten foot long stick.
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #2447 on: February 01, 2014, 02:38:29 am »
Quote from: Magus Silveresti on February 01, 2014, 02:09:54 am
*stretches hand out* Ehh...

*stretches hand out with a foot long stick* Ehhhhh...

*stretches hand out with a ten foot long stick* Ehhhh-- *drops stick* Whoops.

Nope, I can't touch this subject.  Not even with a ten foot long stick.
*breaks your arm*
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #2448 on: February 01, 2014, 09:11:40 am »
Hm...nope, still wrong, even if its the animal doing the penetrating.  You're tricking the animal into fucking you, which is no better in my eyes than...forcing the issue upon the poor thing.  It still involves an animal, which still can't give consent, which is still unbelievably fucked up and yes, ought to be illegal.
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #2449 on: February 01, 2014, 09:36:54 am »
Being that the morality isn't exactly clear-cut, I'd say that people shouldn't have sex with animals under any circumstances, but having the animal do the penetrating isn't remotely comparable to raping a person and shouldn't carry anywhere near the same penalties.

Let's all agree that the idea of people doing anything sexual with animals is squicky as hell.
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #2450 on: February 01, 2014, 09:50:42 am »
Quote from: The Right Honourable Mlle Antéchrist on February 01, 2014, 09:36:54 am
Being that the morality isn't exactly clear-cut, I'd say that people shouldn't have sex with animals under any circumstances, but having the animal do the penetrating isn't remotely comparable to raping a person and shouldn't carry anywhere near the same penalties.

Let's all agree that the idea of people doing anything sexual with animals is squicky as hell.

Aye, though I'm mostly saying that it doesn't matter who's doing the penetrating, if one is engaging in sexual activity with an animal, it should be a punishable offense.  Not as bad as rape against a fellow human, but worthy of a good, hard, legal kick in the groin.
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #2451 on: February 01, 2014, 10:04:30 am »
Eh, I'm starting to get a bit squicked out by this subject, so let's just agree that zoophiles should stick to their fantasies and toys, and leave real animals alone.
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #2452 on: February 01, 2014, 11:30:57 am »
There are many cases of severely mentally limited patients being sexually exploited by institution staff. Implied consent not possible there, too. Pederasts are equivalent to them. People who sexually exploit/rape animals objectify them, people who sexually exploit/rape children objectify them, people who sexually exploit/rape mentally disabled persons objectify them. All of these exploiters and abusers are sociopaths. They are predators and need to go away.
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #2453 on: February 01, 2014, 12:09:53 pm »
Consent cannot be established between animals and humans, no matter how intelligent the animal may be. Their mode of thought is not very understood. And I just want to quote this from my German friend regarding German sex laws started by the Nazi:

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§175 criminalised male homosexual acts (in §175a) and bestiality (in §175b). The latter was repealed without a substitution in 1969.

It's saying bestiality was legalized before homosexuality. Wasn't completely repeal for much much later. Yes, there are places in the world where it's more okay to fuck an animal than to be gay. So I grow weary of people trying to compare zoophilia with LGBTQ.

Now as Antichrist says this subject is getting squicky real fast.
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #2454 on: February 01, 2014, 04:57:25 pm »


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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #2455 on: February 01, 2014, 05:11:45 pm »


What is this I don't even.......
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #2456 on: February 01, 2014, 06:10:27 pm »
Oh now, anypony can figure those out. <snark>.
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #2457 on: February 01, 2014, 06:13:53 pm »
Quote from: Caitshidhe on February 01, 2014, 05:11:45 pm


What is this I don't even.......
Let me guess, a "transspecies" person wrote that...
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #2458 on: February 01, 2014, 07:19:44 pm »
I believe they like to call themselves "Otherkin"
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #2459 on: February 01, 2014, 07:39:14 pm »
Quote from: RavynousHunter on February 01, 2014, 09:11:40 am
Hm...nope, still wrong, even if its the animal doing the penetrating.  You're tricking the animal into fucking you, which is no better in my eyes than...forcing the issue upon the poor thing.  It still involves an animal, which still can't give consent, which is still unbelievably fucked up and yes, ought to be illegal.
So, how does semen collection for livestock A.I. figure into this notion? It's literally jerking off animals for profit so it lacks the sexual squickness, but it is still doing basically the same thing to the animal that having sex with it does.

I went to a university that was an Ag. college as well and ended up learning far more about this sort of thing hanging out with farm kids then I ever wanted too. As a result part of my brain went "well, what about..." The other part of my brain, the one that went "Eww,. No. Gross. Don't go there, your hurting me." thought I should spread the joy.

Sorry. :)
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