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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #4275 on: August 26, 2014, 09:56:14 am »
Well, it would seem that "prostitute of colour" is now a thing, thanks to Anita Sarkeesian.

Please tell me she's taking the piss.  Because that's the most patently ridiculous term for a person I've ever fucking heard.

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« Reply #4276 on: August 26, 2014, 11:09:52 am »
Well, it would seem that "prostitute of colour" is now a thing, thanks to Anita Sarkeesian.

Please tell me she's taking the piss.  Because that's the most patently ridiculous term for a person I've ever fucking heard.

I could, but I'd be lying.

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« Reply #4277 on: August 26, 2014, 01:46:50 pm »
Time to whip this out again.

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« Reply #4278 on: August 26, 2014, 02:01:38 pm »
Can someone provide context as to where this term "prostitute of colour" came from?
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« Reply #4279 on: August 26, 2014, 02:05:00 pm »
Probably from Grand Theft Auto.  Thinking on it, I don't really recall any prostitute models in any of the games being anything other than white.  You'd think a mothafucka would take that as a damned compliment and not bitch, but people love to complain.
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #4280 on: August 26, 2014, 02:34:20 pm »
Probably from Grand Theft Auto.  Thinking on it, I don't really recall any prostitute models in any of the games being anything other than white.  You'd think a mothafucka would take that as a damned compliment and not bitch, but people love to complain.
There is honestly quite a lot of legitimate bullshit in the game to complain about.

For the most part I like Anita's commentaries, even if she says dumb shit like that fairly often.
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #4281 on: August 26, 2014, 05:37:24 pm »
What I find more hilarious is that Anita sucks as an arguer, and yet her detractors are probably the best argument in favor of feminism because of their sheer massive amounts of abuse proving Anita right better than SHE can.
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« Reply #4282 on: August 26, 2014, 09:28:16 pm »
...Well, to be honest how many people go around calling women "females?"

Like, "Excuse me female I'd like to have another cup of coffee?" Or something like that.

Not quite like that, but MRAs and their ilk have been known for using the term "females" instead of "women". Like "Things Females Seem To Not Understand" and such. It's kind of weird.
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« Reply #4283 on: August 26, 2014, 09:57:13 pm »
I actually have a genderfluid friend who specifically asks that people use "man" and "woman" to refer to gender and "male" and "female" to refer to sex. So a trans-man would still be a biological female and it would be fine to refer to him as such, as his biology is still that of a female human. But you'd call him a man.

This also helps for non-binary people who don't feel any attachment to being a man OR a woman.
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« Reply #4284 on: August 26, 2014, 11:05:31 pm »
I actually have a genderfluid friend who specifically asks that people use "man" and "woman" to refer to gender and "male" and "female" to refer to sex. So a trans-man would still be a biological female and it would be fine to refer to him as such, as his biology is still that of a female human. But you'd call him a man.

This also helps for non-binary people who don't feel any attachment to being a man OR a woman.

After reading your post 3 times, I've still got trouble getting what you're saying. I'm a cisgendered male. Does that make me a man as my gender and male as my sex? Honestly, I find that a bit callous towards transpeople even though, granted, I don't know many but the few I know would take it badly if I referred to them by their birth gender. But please, explain because I feel I've misinterpreted something and I'm genuinely curious.
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« Reply #4285 on: August 26, 2014, 11:48:00 pm »
I actually have a genderfluid friend who specifically asks that people use "man" and "woman" to refer to gender and "male" and "female" to refer to sex. So a trans-man would still be a biological female and it would be fine to refer to him as such, as his biology is still that of a female human. But you'd call him a man.

This also helps for non-binary people who don't feel any attachment to being a man OR a woman.

After reading your post 3 times, I've still got trouble getting what you're saying. I'm a cisgendered male. Does that make me a man as my gender and male as my sex? Honestly, I find that a bit callous towards transpeople even though, granted, I don't know many but the few I know would take it badly if I referred to them by their birth gender. But please, explain because I feel I've misinterpreted something and I'm genuinely curious.

Yeah, you're a man and a male. Gender and sex are entirely different things; someone who is a trans man is likely to still be biologically female, which is extremely important for considerations like medical emergencies. Referring to a transsexual person as their desired gender doesn't change their biological sex, and even in 2014 we don't have the ability to 100% change biological sex from one binary to another.

It also allows for clarification regarding, say, sexual attraction. I'm predominately attracted to females. Not simply "women", but also females who don't necessarily identify as a girl.
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #4286 on: August 27, 2014, 02:15:22 am »
Probably from Grand Theft Auto.  Thinking on it, I don't really recall any prostitute models in any of the games being anything other than white.  You'd think a mothafucka would take that as a damned compliment and not bitch, but people love to complain.

Liberty city stories has some non-white prostitutes if I recall correctly.

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« Reply #4287 on: August 27, 2014, 10:32:17 am »
Probably from Grand Theft Auto.  Thinking on it, I don't really recall any prostitute models in any of the games being anything other than white.  You'd think a mothafucka would take that as a damned compliment and not bitch, but people love to complain.

Liberty city stories has some non-white prostitutes if I recall correctly.

I've not played any of the side games, just the main line.  Well, except GTA II.  I should get around to fixing that, some day.
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« Reply #4288 on: August 27, 2014, 10:37:14 am »
I can confirm that all of the games have prostitutes of multiple ethnicities.
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« Reply #4289 on: August 27, 2014, 07:35:05 pm »
Pharyngula commenters predictably getting butthurt about "butthurt".

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They hardly even pretend the alleged definition is recognized by anyone else. Pharyngula commenters may be entitled to their own opinions, but they think they can project their own definitions too.
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