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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #4305 on: August 29, 2014, 10:58:44 pm »
I want to smack everyone involved in that stupid argument.

Pretentious bullshit on one side, blatant baiting on the other.

Though I can't say the baiter was wrong to have pointed out that supporting both of those women would get her gendered insults.  ... But being right doesn't mean you're in the right.  If that makes sense.
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #4306 on: August 29, 2014, 11:44:32 pm »
As far as I see, Novestador seemed to want a discussion and did not recognise that the original comment was a joke/troll. Perhaps he would have turned out to be a fedorasshole if the discussion had continued somewhere but the way that played out the ladies were the ones who ended up looking bad.
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #4307 on: August 29, 2014, 11:44:45 pm »
I want to smack everyone involved in that stupid argument.

Pretentious bullshit on one side, blatant baiting on the other.

Though I can't say the baiter was wrong to have pointed out that supporting both of those women would get her gendered insults.  ... But being right doesn't mean you're in the right.  If that makes sense.

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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #4308 on: August 30, 2014, 12:39:03 am »
I want to smack everyone involved in that stupid argument.

Pretentious bullshit on one side, blatant baiting on the other.

Though I can't say the baiter was wrong to have pointed out that supporting both of those women would get her gendered insults.  ... But being right doesn't mean you're in the right.  If that makes sense.

I believe the turn of phrase you're looking for is this:
 

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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #4309 on: August 30, 2014, 02:40:25 pm »
As far as I see, Novestador seemed to want a discussion and did not recognise that the original comment was a joke/troll. Perhaps he would have turned out to be a fedorasshole if the discussion had continued somewhere but the way that played out the ladies were the ones who ended up looking bad.

Here's the thing. By now, the cliche in the SJW community is of the fedora'd gentleman who talks fancy about how he's perfectly rational and objective and everyone else is an emotional idiot... and then proceeds to make incredibly stupid arguments that completely ignore reason and/or reality. It's a stereotype, but it does happen to some extent.

And it's an incredibly destructive meme. If your side automatically pattern-matches "person who talks about a reasonable discussion" to "complete idiot who has nothing useful to say and shall be mocked", then you've more or less made actual reasonable discussion impossible. And of course they have all the auxiliary memes about how you don't need a reasonable discussion about these things because racism/sexism/etc. are obviously wrong* so what do we even have to talk about?

And then on the other side you have people looking at the SJWs and saying "man, these guys are completely against rational debate, what idiots" and so on and so forth.


*Which they are. But "racism is wrong" is only the first part of the SJW creed, and what people want to discuss is all the other, less obvious parts.
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #4310 on: August 30, 2014, 10:13:27 pm »


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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #4311 on: August 30, 2014, 10:21:45 pm »
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Roaming through the streets, I seriously see the worst in humanity.

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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #4312 on: August 30, 2014, 10:41:31 pm »
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Roaming through the streets, I seriously see the worst in humanity.

Well, that explains a lot.

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Re: Worst of Social Justice
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #4314 on: August 31, 2014, 02:00:33 pm »
... that makes absolutely zero sense.  She's literally getting involved to try and piss gamers off with... feminism? huh?
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #4315 on: August 31, 2014, 02:18:00 pm »
Part of me wonders if that was sarcastic, but even if it was, I have a hard time telling which parts are sarcastic and which parts aren't.
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #4316 on: August 31, 2014, 02:30:11 pm »
Seriously bitch, is "nerd" supposed to hurt peoples feelings?

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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #4317 on: August 31, 2014, 03:25:25 pm »
... that makes absolutely zero sense.  She's literally getting involved to try and piss gamers off with... feminism? huh?

It's a joke. She's making fun of the specific segment of gamer culture who accuses feminists of actively trying to ruin games.

Part of me wonders if that was sarcastic, but even if it was, I have a hard time telling which parts are sarcastic and which parts aren't.

Both the "videogames are for losers" and "ruin things for you specifically" tweets were jokes. (I'm not just guessing, I checked her twitter feed and she says so specifically, plus it's obvious from context)

I suspect a recalibration of sarcasm detectors is in order.
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #4318 on: August 31, 2014, 06:25:58 pm »
Its a really poor attempt at humour.  The "loser gamer" thing has been overplayed since the early 90s, at the latest.  She could at least bother trying with her jokes.
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #4319 on: August 31, 2014, 06:27:41 pm »
Its a really poor attempt at humour.  The "loser gamer" thing has been overplayed since the early 90s, at the latest.
Early 90's? I could swear it's been a thing since the pre-8-bit days of the late 70's/early 80's.