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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #5310 on: January 15, 2015, 09:33:26 am »
It goes all the way back to when we were livin in caves.  We care about OUR tribe first and foremost.  You're lucky if we're even peripherally aware of people outside our tribe.

"Us" and "them" mentality.

At least "us" is slowly growing bigger than just your clan or hometown. Hopefully more people start caring about the entire human race.

Which won't happen until we meet sentient aliens, if this mentality is the driving force. We need a "them" before the human race can be considered "us."

which basically explains how in halo space marines have no qualms about talking to different humans, despite language barriers and skin color.
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #5311 on: January 15, 2015, 02:50:27 pm »


The reason these things aren't free is because people have to work to provide them for us. There are farmers, water purification workers, electricians, engineers, oil field workers, etc. These people can't work for free.

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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #5312 on: January 15, 2015, 03:14:01 pm »


The reason these things aren't free is because people have to work to provide them for us. There are farmers, water purification workers, electricians, engineers, oil field workers, etc. These people can't work for free.

It's more complicated than that. For instance, here in the United States, there are more uninhabited homes than homeless people. Worldwide, we already produce enough food to feed 10 billion people. Capitalism does not solve the problem of distributing essentials effectively and, perhaps more importantly, automation ensures fewer and fewer people will have to work to produce these essentials.

You should take a look at solutions like basic income that directly address a post-employment society.
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #5313 on: January 15, 2015, 03:32:52 pm »


The reason these things aren't free is because people have to work to provide them for us. There are farmers, water purification workers, electricians, engineers, oil field workers, etc. These people can't work for free.

All sorts of things are free that other people have to work for. We typically pay them through taxes (yes, technically that means we are still paying for them and so not "free", but the load can be distributed adequately throughout society). If we can have public schools, we can have public other stuff.

Obviously you need to consider everything case by case, like how do you deal with people who consume extraordinary amounts of electricity or such, but it's not ridiculous a priori to expand the "basic necessities" category to include more things.

Also, I'm with 'chew on basic income, but that's probably harder to implement directly that just free food.
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #5314 on: January 15, 2015, 07:03:33 pm »


Ah yes, because "criticism" often takes the form of mass murder.
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #5315 on: January 15, 2015, 10:11:44 pm »
I wouldn't put it past Ian to support mass murderers.

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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #5316 on: January 17, 2015, 03:35:45 am »
Anyone who wants to post slashfic of various forum members: clear it with them first. I did not expect I'd have to make a rule about this, but this is the world we live in.

You expect anything less from this forum? I'm surprised it took this long.

It's already far too late.

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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #5317 on: January 17, 2015, 05:06:02 am »
Just MadChew? Hell, I ship ForumOrgy, which is exactly what it sounds like.
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #5318 on: January 17, 2015, 12:54:52 pm »
...you guys are weird.

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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #5319 on: January 17, 2015, 01:12:16 pm »
So, wait. Is it me x Ironchew or Madcat x Ironchew?
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #5320 on: January 17, 2015, 04:41:59 pm »
Yes.
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #5321 on: January 17, 2015, 05:51:47 pm »
So, wait. Is it me x Ironchew or Madcat x Ironchew?

If we decide this by firing a photon at a phototube you could think of it as a superposition of both MadChews.

You won't know which one it is until you read it.
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #5322 on: January 17, 2015, 09:05:56 pm »


Here we see McIntosh defending extremists who terrorize people because of an opinion.

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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #5323 on: January 17, 2015, 09:21:25 pm »
Social Justice Warriors are like Inquisitors - they are so utterly sure of their own righteousness, that everyone with a contradictory opinion, in their mind, becomes a monster. Simply for not being like them.
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #5324 on: January 18, 2015, 12:11:58 am »


Here we see McIntosh defending extremists who terrorize people because of an opinion.

I don't think someone saying that they don't want to defend Charlie Hebdo is simultaneously saying "I support the terrorists who killed their workers and creators."
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