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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #5355 on: January 19, 2015, 04:51:54 pm »


*Shits bricks.*

Seriously, I can't tell which is more terrifying.

i should take offense to this (being psychotic), but instead, i'll just feel pity for the idiot thinking about feeling fail-idated.
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #5356 on: January 19, 2015, 09:43:43 pm »
The person has half a point: there is a difference between having violent thoughts and/or urges and acting on them.  However, such a distinction is probably oppression of some sort.
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #5357 on: January 19, 2015, 09:58:33 pm »
Damn it, Vade. Quit making me want to Google Stalk your circle of asshats.



"I'm not feeling very boy today".



I don't even...



I quit.
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #5358 on: January 19, 2015, 10:28:57 pm »


*Shits bricks.*

Seriously, I can't tell which is more terrifying.
1 bucks says they don't actually have any mentall illness besides occasionally feeling agressive.

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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #5359 on: January 19, 2015, 10:54:39 pm »


*Shits bricks.*

Seriously, I can't tell which is more terrifying.
1 bucks says they don't actually have any mentall illness besides occasionally feeling agressive.

I'd personally armchair-diagnose Vade for ASPD, but nothing more.
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #5360 on: January 20, 2015, 12:57:17 am »
They suffer from an advanced case of assburgers.

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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #5361 on: January 20, 2015, 04:49:45 pm »
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Anonymous I'm a male server (not that it means anything) is there anyway I can stop being an oppressor? Or anywhere I can start to help. I just stumbled onto Radical Feminism recently and agree with what I've seen.

1. No, there is no way you will ever stop being an oppressor as you are male and therefore part of an oppressive class. However, you can make conscious and dedicated efforts to be less misogynist and advocate for women.

2. Read, read, and read some more. Read about radical women’s experiences, our theories, etc. Read books by us. Read blogs by us. Visit radfem.org for some good, free resources on this subject. Remember: shut up and listen.

3. Listen some more. Do not speak over women, do not chide or debate with radical feminist women. Instead correct your fellow men. Listen to what we say and the problems we pose with men and masculinity. When you see men behaving in a misogynist way, advocate for women and correct their behavior.

4. Do not ever expect anything in return for this. Remember: you are not doing us a favor. You are merely being a decent human being by advocating for the class that you oppress, a class that suffers so you can be afforded privileges.

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You can almost see her getting off on being able to tell this self-hating idiot that he has to shut his mouth and listen to everything she has to say.  I'm sure it's not often that people are actually eager to listen to her hateful opinions.

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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #5362 on: January 20, 2015, 06:38:38 pm »
In this vaguely (and it chafes me to call this shit that) communist worldview, who are the intelligentsia of the radfem movement?

In addition, I looked up the quote author for context. Apparently, she's the anti-kink sort of radfem who thinks that BDSM is totes only male dominance gaiz. Oh, and this special bit of TERFism.

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Gay dysphoric males still are part of the oppressive class that subordinates, enslaves, and oppresses females. Gay dysphoric males may feel harmed by gender, but they still benefit from it as gender is a hierarchy that grants power to males. Gay dysphoric males still have male privilege, they are still oppressors, they have still been socialized from birth to oppress women and they still have no right to demand our identities/access to our experiences. Just because you are gay and troubled by gender does not mean that you have a right to appropriate the identities and oppression of females.

Because in TERFland, transsexuality=OPPRESSION APPROPRIATION GAIZ. EHMErGERD THE VILE HERMAS ARE COMING TO KYRIARCH US!

I'd make fun of their bowel troubles, but that'd just be mean and puerile over something that's not at all in their control.
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #5363 on: January 20, 2015, 09:45:59 pm »
Wonder what this dingus would think of one of my best friends.  Said friend? ex-dominatrix.  And she's both awesome and scary, and I wouldn't trade her for the world.  She'd probably think it was self-oppression or some bunk.
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #5364 on: January 20, 2015, 10:40:15 pm »
Wonder what this dingus would think of one of my best friends.  Said friend? ex-dominatrix.  And she's both awesome and scary, and I wouldn't trade her for the world.  She'd probably think it was self-oppression or some bunk.
I believe the term is internalised oppression, but yeah, that's the gist of it.

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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #5365 on: January 20, 2015, 11:42:53 pm »
And while we're talking about transphobic RadFems:



For a little context:

http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2015/01/20/poster-claims-trans-women-rape-women-every-nine-minutes/

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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #5366 on: January 21, 2015, 01:05:20 am »
Wonder what this dingus would think of one of my best friends.  Said friend? ex-dominatrix.  And she's both awesome and scary, and I wouldn't trade her for the world.  She'd probably think it was self-oppression or some bunk.
I believe the term is internalised oppression, but yeah, that's the gist of it.

"Anti-kink," "anti-porn," and "anti-sex work" (a.k.a. SWERF) feminists are not necessarily TERFs. There is a large overlap, yes, but they are not, as a rule, transphobic. However, if a feminist fits one part of the "anti" triad, she probably falls into the other two categories as well.

Basically, anti-kink feminists believe that BDSM is always abusive because the submissive partner (who they always assume is a woman) can't really consent because her choices are constrained by the society in which she lives. Doms, on the other hand, are pure evil incarnate, abusive pimps taking advantage of women, and totally responsible for their actions. (Male subs, for some reason, are supposedly oppressing women by taking on a role submissive to a woman temporarily. Apparently this is offensive because women face sexism all the time, so men aren't allowed to simulate the opposite any of the time.)

Anti-porn and anti-sex work feminists tend to go together. They like citing charlatans like Shelley Lubben, who has been known to abuse and manipulate the women she "rescues," as well as other feminists who end up exploiting these women for lurid graphic stories of the porn industry. Like anti-vaxxers, they will call foul whenever their sources are debunked, claiming that it is further proof the "sex industry" is trying to suppress their message. (If I see one more gifset of Gail Dines explaining her horribly designed studies, or one more post circulating pseudoscientific bunk about how porn "rewires your brain," I'm gonna scream.) They ignore what actual porn actors and sex workers have to say, unless they conveniently say something they already agree with or can use to further their agenda. And - bizarrely - many of these feminists, who eagerly call out the police, criminal justice system, and government for their abuses and excessive oversight of citizens' private lives, seem totally fine with the same heightened scrutiny being applied to sex workers.

This is a good example of just some of the rhetorical bullshit Dines pulls out of her ass, for instance. Why people take this woman as a credible feminist figure is beyond me. Apparently feelings are substitutes for hard evidence for some people.
Now, make no mistake, the porn industry is extremely abusive and manipulative. I suppose a better comparison would be between swerfs and critics of Monsanto who cite "TEH GMOS!!" instead of the companies history of bullshit.

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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #5367 on: January 21, 2015, 01:08:25 am »
And while we're talking about transphobic RadFems:



For a little context:

http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2015/01/20/poster-claims-trans-women-rape-women-every-nine-minutes/
To be fair it says men including trans women rape real wymen or whatever.

That being said it's revolting the Trans people are often attacked by not only society at large but also LGB and feminist groups.

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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #5368 on: January 21, 2015, 07:41:26 am »
I think that Hermione was a well written character in Harry Potter and definitely a "strong female character" as well, something that not enough media has. ...But this interpretation of her as a... I am not sure what... Anti-Patriarchy crusader? This is just embarrassing:

http://www.buzzfeed.com/danieldalton/boss-witch#.erYPXEXJ6
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #5369 on: January 21, 2015, 08:22:30 am »
If Hermione were the Girl Who Lived, then...she wouldn't HAVE parents, and she'd likely be at least a half-blood instead of a Muggle-born.  Yes, Hermione has always struck me as a feminist character since she pursues the unladylike sport of being god damned intelligent, was raised in 80s-90s Britain (which may not be a feminist haven, but its a hell of a lot better than other options), and was basically forced into a world that seems to be stuck in at least the 19th century.  That image gallery (each picture only has about two sentences to 'em), however, is nothing more than moronic, click-bait bullshit.
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