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Offline TheUnknown

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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #5805 on: March 19, 2015, 05:49:01 pm »
Quote from: ironbite on March 19, 2015, 05:11:29 pm
To be fair, on most of those Batman is struggling to get free.  With Batgirl, she's just so god damn frightened of the madman she can't move.

Ironbite-it's a stupid cover anyways.

The comparison I heard was "could you picture the Red Hood in place of Batgirl, terrified and crying (since Jason Todd was also horribly victimized by the Joker)?"  From what I hear (I don't read comics), the cover makes little to no sense because of the development and character arcs that Barbara Gordon went through (this Batgirl is Barbara Gordon, right?).
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #5806 on: March 19, 2015, 07:31:00 pm »
Quote from: ironbite on March 19, 2015, 05:11:29 pm
To be fair, on most of those Batman is struggling to get free.  With Batgirl, she's just so god damn frightened of the madman she can't move.

Ironbite-it's a stupid cover anyways.

You're right. it's almost as if the Joker is a horrifying person who does horrifying things to people.
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #5807 on: March 19, 2015, 08:02:26 pm »
Quote from: Dakota Bob on March 19, 2015, 07:31:00 pm
Quote from: ironbite on March 19, 2015, 05:11:29 pm
To be fair, on most of those Batman is struggling to get free.  With Batgirl, she's just so god damn frightened of the madman she can't move.

Ironbite-it's a stupid cover anyways.

The Joker is a horrifying person who does horrifying things to people.
Well yes, but when Batman is depicted in scenarios like the one on the cover he is almost always shown as resisting in some fashion. That was literally Ironbites argument.

To be honest I don't care about the cover that much.
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #5808 on: March 19, 2015, 08:08:51 pm »
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“i’m so depressed,” posted the caucasian heterosexual cisgender teenage girl on her blog
TIL: Depression only affects minorities
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #5809 on: March 19, 2015, 09:00:18 pm »
Quote from: I am lizard on March 19, 2015, 08:02:26 pm
Quote from: Dakota Bob on March 19, 2015, 07:31:00 pm
Quote from: ironbite on March 19, 2015, 05:11:29 pm
To be fair, on most of those Batman is struggling to get free.  With Batgirl, she's just so god damn frightened of the madman she can't move.

Ironbite-it's a stupid cover anyways.

The Joker is a horrifying person who does horrifying things to people.
Well yes, but when Batman is depicted in scenarios like the one on the cover he is almost always shown as resisting in some fashion. That was literally Ironbites argument.

To be honest I don't care about the cover that much.

Well, according to my brother, Batgirl has PTSD.  And besides, how would you react to being held captive by the guy who tortured and crippled you?
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #5810 on: March 19, 2015, 09:16:16 pm »
If I remember correctly from the big 4-issue mini series that elaborates on New 52 history up to this point and what I know of this series, Barbara has already undergone the New 52 equivalent of The Killing Joke and become Oracle. Then, by some twist of medical science, she gets her ability to walk back at the cost of survivor's guilt.

So, yeah, she most likely has a shit-ton of issues to work out.
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #5811 on: March 19, 2015, 09:19:29 pm »
Quote from: Second Coming of Madman on March 19, 2015, 09:16:16 pm
If I remember correctly from the big 4-issue mini series that elaborates on New 52 history up to this point and what I know of this series, Barbara has already undergone the New 52 equivalent of The Killing Joke and become Oracle. Then, by some twist of medical science, she gets her ability to walk back at the cost of survivor's guilt.

So, yeah, she most likely has a shit-ton of issues to work out.

That's more or less what my brother said.
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #5812 on: March 19, 2015, 09:43:59 pm »
I'm just amazed that the Joker apparently flayed his own face off and nailed the skin to Batman's face, and yet the part that people seem most interested in is that Batgirl looks a little less than stoic about the prospect of being captured and tortured.
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #5813 on: March 20, 2015, 12:05:24 am »
From what I understand the reason people were offended is because the cover is alluding to a rape scene from "The Killing Joke" and because of some other shit.
To be honest, It seems kinda tacky, I don't mean super tacky, just kinda tacky.

What annoys me though is not so much the initial reaction but the overblown rage on places like /co/ and Reddit where people are treating it like the DC office was stormed by several gunmen.
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #5814 on: March 20, 2015, 12:08:50 am »
Quote from: I am lizard on March 20, 2015, 12:05:24 am
From what I understand the reason people were offended is because the cover is alluding to a rape scene from "The Killing Joke" and because of some other shit.
To be honest, It seems kinda tacky, I don't mean super tacky, just kinda tacky.

What annoys me though is not so much the initial reaction but the overblown rage on places like /co/ and Reddit where people are treating it like the DC office was stormed by several gunmen.

Actually, Alan Moore confirmed that the Joker didn't rape Barbara, although he admits he could have made that a bit more clear.
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #5815 on: March 20, 2015, 12:20:23 am »
Quote from: I am lizard on March 19, 2015, 08:08:51 pm
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“i’m so depressed,” posted the caucasian heterosexual cisgender teenage girl on her blog[\quote]
TIL: Depression only affects minorities

Holy shit I wish I knew about this a few years ago!
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #5816 on: March 20, 2015, 08:46:31 pm »


Apparently trans men aren't trans.
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #5817 on: March 20, 2015, 11:07:38 pm »


Are they heterophobes for not dating straight people?
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #5818 on: March 20, 2015, 11:19:04 pm »
Okay then, I'm a homophone.
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #5819 on: March 20, 2015, 11:24:32 pm »
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gay white cis man telling his coming out story: [adjusts the lighting to be more dramatic, focuses a spotlight on himself, begins playing sad music in the background] when i was little, i felt like there was something… different about me. i had some feelings i didn’t understand. in middle school i realized i was…gay. [begins to cry]  i was bullied. my parents didn’t understand, but they still loved me. then i got older and met new friends and my life was easier. as a cisgender white gay man, my life has been a battle from the beginning. no one will understand my pain. [lighting fades]
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