Methinks we should start seperating the "best" and the "worst" cartoons from now on.Sure, I can do that.
(http://i.imgur.com/XJmo0.jpg)Technically the Pinto explosions were staged. Also that is something the US really needs to do is block companies that use 10 year olds.
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(http://www.caglecartoons.com/media/cartoons/10/2007/12/30/45238_600.jpg)
What the bloody fuck?
(http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/294785_10150329268186275_177486166274_8551998_1041753834_n.jpg)I like this, but it seems hastily edited.
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The bean one is stupid. The GOP knew full-well that the tax cuts wouldn't do any of what they promise.
(http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/294785_10150329268186275_177486166274_8551998_1041753834_n.jpg)Well, it's possible he may be an impersonator ...
The bean one is stupid. The GOP knew full-well that the tax cuts wouldn't do any of what they promise.
Well, it's possible he may be an impersonator ...
Well, it's possible he may be an impersonator ...
Shouldn't that be in the worst political cartoon thread? Probably my fault for not editing the contents of the OP when we decided to split the two.
Middle Ages? That shit went down well into the sixties and seventies. My dad's a natural lefty but is now a righty because of it.
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I enjoy this comic very much. It made me snicker.
Middle Ages? That shit went down well into the sixties and seventies. My dad's a natural lefty but is now a righty because of it.Santorum looks a lot like Quagmire.
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Middle Ages? That shit went down well into the sixties and seventies. My dad's a natural lefty but is now a righty because of it.
My dad was naturally left handed, but was forced to use his right hand in school and so became ambidextrous. My older brother is also left handed, though if the school tried to pull the old shit of him having to use his right hand (this was in the '80s) my dad would have pulled him out and had him home schooled, tutored, or sent to a private school so that he could use his left hand.Middle Ages? That shit went down well into the sixties and seventies. My dad's a natural lefty but is now a righty because of it.
Even longer than you think, they tried to pull that shit on me into the 80's. Like, I remember in 85 being about 10 and having a teacher try to get me to switch from left to right. Her excuse was that my handwriting was terrible. My mom complained to the administration (my dad actually agreed with the teacher) and was told that she is allowed to run her class as she sees fit.
I was never in a class my entire school career with more than one other left-handed person and we were always relegated to the back or a corner of the room so we wouldn't hit our elbows on other people.
(http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/381402_356830504342467_108038612554992_1422266_1860730512_n.jpg)I actually now am curios did Walker go to a private school since his legislation seems to asssume that most people didnt directly benefit from the school system.
I actually now am curios did Walker go to a private school since his legislation seems to asssume that most people didnt directly benefit from the school system.
Still it just seems like the legislation was written by someone with no appreciation for the educational systemI actually now am curios did Walker go to a private school since his legislation seems to asssume that most people didnt directly benefit from the school system.
I don’t know about his elementary and high school, but he is a 4th-year college dropout from a private university (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Walker_(politician)#Early_life.2C_education_and_career).
My dad was naturally left handed, but was forced to use his right hand in school and so became ambidextrous. My older brother is also left handed, though if the school tried to pull the old shit of him having to use his right hand (this was in the '80s) my dad would have pulled him out and had him home schooled, tutored, or sent to a private school so that he could use his left hand.Middle Ages? That shit went down well into the sixties and seventies. My dad's a natural lefty but is now a righty because of it.
Even longer than you think, they tried to pull that shit on me into the 80's. Like, I remember in 85 being about 10 and having a teacher try to get me to switch from left to right. Her excuse was that my handwriting was terrible. My mom complained to the administration (my dad actually agreed with the teacher) and was told that she is allowed to run her class as she sees fit.
Middle Ages? That shit went down well into the sixties and seventies. My dad's a natural lefty but is now a righty because of it.
Even longer than you think, they tried to pull that shit on me into the 80's. Like, I remember in 85 being about 10 and having a teacher try to get me to switch from left to right. Her excuse was that my handwriting was terrible. My mom complained to the administration (my dad actually agreed with the teacher) and was told that she is allowed to run her class as she sees fit.
He doesn’t have any appreciation. Plain and simple. May be part of why he dropped out of college.Still it just seems like the legislation was written by someone with no appreciation for the educational systemI actually now am curios did Walker go to a private school since his legislation seems to asssume that most people didnt directly benefit from the school system.
I don’t know about his elementary and high school, but he is a 4th-year college dropout from a private university (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Walker_(politician)#Early_life.2C_education_and_career).
Still hard to believe no GOP legislators had any pings of guiltHe doesn’t have any appreciation. Plain and simple. May be part of why he dropped out of college.Still it just seems like the legislation was written by someone with no appreciation for the educational systemI actually now am curios did Walker go to a private school since his legislation seems to asssume that most people didnt directly benefit from the school system.
I don’t know about his elementary and high school, but he is a 4th-year college dropout from a private university (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Walker_(politician)#Early_life.2C_education_and_career).
Why feel guilty. The Will of the Party Must be Upheld!Still hard to believe no GOP legislators had any pings of guiltHe doesn’t have any appreciation. Plain and simple. May be part of why he dropped out of college.Still it just seems like the legislation was written by someone with no appreciation for the educational systemI actually now am curios did Walker go to a private school since his legislation seems to asssume that most people didnt directly benefit from the school system.
I don’t know about his elementary and high school, but he is a 4th-year college dropout from a private university (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Walker_(politician)#Early_life.2C_education_and_career).
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Did you get that off of the older forums? I could swear it was posted there too.
This is awesome(http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/407820_360504603975603_122256581133741_1439847_276437603_n.jpg)
Did you get that off of the older forums? I could swear it was posted there too.
It was on my Facebook feed. They put some older stuff on that I recognize.
was told that she is allowed to run her class as she sees fit.
Quotewas told that she is allowed to run her class as she sees fit.Okay, what if the story had been, "Little Jimmy is color blind, he can't tell the difference between red & green"? Does he just have to figure it out, because teachers can run a class any way they see fit, without worrying about such things as the students' physical capabilities?
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(http://img846.imageshack.us/img846/9474/monsterpigs.jpg)I would rate this as one of the worst, since this is actually a picture of the UK riots.
I would rate this as one of the worst, since this is actually a picture of the UK riots.
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Quotewas told that she is allowed to run her class as she sees fit.
What.
Okay, what if the story had been, "Little Jimmy is color blind, he can't tell the difference between red & green"? Does he just have to figure it out, because teachers can run a class any way they see fit, without worrying about such things as the students' physical capabilities?
Because if I was a teacher in the '80's (which I couldn't be because they never happened), I'd have told people to write with their mouthes, or dicks, or something. I am not constrained by this logic & practicality bullshit!
There's one artist, who makes such cheery images for his editorial cartoons, but has borderline horrible messages in his cartoons that I can't reconcile the art with the message. (And by horrible messages, I don't mean 'things I disagree with', I mean things like 'universal health care will lead to death panels)
I also used to read Hathor the Cow Goddess, but then I took an arrow to the knee.
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lxxedgkfiV1r33veco1_500.jpg)If only science could make this happen.
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Better phrasing would be, "Political Tyranny leads to Civil Rights for Same Sex couples!"
Either way, it still doesn't make sense.
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(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/408913_300671503313159_154008447979466_787204_139925666_n.jpg)Yeah. Republicans are only for creating jobs in the same ol’ same ol’ industries. Gotta be their jobs or no jobs. ::)
The message is good enough, but I always found Doonesbury a little too heavy-handed for my tastes. Not to mention it strains my suspension of disbelief; it looks "realistic" and yet, if that doctor said that shit IRL, he'd be out on his ass in days.I actually like it for that. It is unashamed to be liberal and makes its point in a blunt, unambiguous fashion.
I don't know why that one bothers me and not any other political cartoon. *shrug*
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Unfortunately, those aspects are often the reasons why he has so many fans.
thats not entirely true, a great misrepresentation
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He looks like a demented hybrid of Johnny Bravo and Duke Nukem O_o
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Unfortunately, those aspects are often the reasons why he has so many fans.
Or they say we're misinterpreting his message. I linked that cartoon to a family member I'm pretty sure whacks off to Paul and this was his tweet back.Quotethats not entirely true, a great misrepresentation
if that doctor said that shit IRL, he'd be out on his ass in days.
The political cartoon with the guillotine I can see as being for OWS because it's saying that the 1% aren't learning from history.Mainly, the French Revolution.
Really?The political cartoon with the guillotine I can see as being for OWS because it's saying that the 1% aren't learning from history.Mainly, the French Revolution.
(http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lygp20mS5s1qhxtaqo1_500.jpg)
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Is this supposed to be Ann Coulter? Because I know she's a complete attention whore.
This is a reference to this.(http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lygp20mS5s1qhxtaqo1_500.jpg)
Is this supposed to be Ann Coulter? Because I know she's a complete attention whore.
Jan Brewer.
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Eh, Ron Paul and the Paulbots are wrong on many subjects, but we can agree on some issues.[/quote]
A broken clock is still right twice a day
Eh, Ron Paul and the Paulbots are wrong on many subjects, but we can agree on some issues.
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(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/400318_10150538535631275_177486166274_9354013_532017886_n.jpg)Ah-Men to that!
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/400318_10150538535631275_177486166274_9354013_532017886_n.jpg)Ah-Men to that!
While I agree that hoarding cash is a bad thing for a number of reasons, that comparison is rather disingenuous...
While I agree that hoarding cash is a bad thing for a number of reasons, that comparison is rather disingenuous...
While I agree that hoarding cash is a bad thing for a number of reasons, that comparison is rather disingenuous...
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Did he actually say that shit?
Herp derp, I was so busy arguing that I forgot to ask where Nickinack's signature comes from.It's a joke about the Buffy, the Vampire Slayer character Willow.
Umm, he actually didn't say the part about the lie detector. According to the article, he believes that it would be hard to prove an "honest rape," & so it should be taken at face value. Most likely, he simply didn't put enough thought in to come to the conclusion of a lie detector, but still, he didnt' say it.
What he DID say was that you shouldn't be eligible for an abortion if it's more than a few hours since you were impregnated.
Also, I had no idea a shot of estrogen could terminate a pregnancy.
Also, I had no idea a shot of estrogen could terminate a pregnancy.
http://nayzak.deviantart.com/art/Islamophobia-207639128 (http://nayzak.deviantart.com/art/Islamophobia-207639128)
Linked for size and length.
http://nayzak.deviantart.com/art/Islamophobia-207639128 (http://nayzak.deviantart.com/art/Islamophobia-207639128)
Linked for size and length.
Really? 'Cause all I see is a white square.It’s flash.
Really? 'Cause all I see is a white square.It’s flash.
……
I still can’t get over the phrase “Honest Rape.” Seriously, man?
Synthetic estrogen, coupled with synthetic progestin, is an ingredient in oral contraceptives. It cannot prevent pregnancy by itself.
Well I guess by "honest rape" he meant that the person has actually been raped compared to someone merely lying that she has been raped in order to get an abortion.Yeah, that is evident from the context. But the phrase itself is ridiculous.
(http://feminist.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/plan-b-cartoon-290x290.jpg)I hate pharmacists like this, they need to find another line of work.
Well I guess by "honest rape" he meant that the person has actually been raped compared to someone merely lying that she has been raped in order to get an abortion.Yeah, that is evident from the context. But the phrase itself is ridiculous.
To be honest, the Defenders of 1913 makes no sense to me. I don't know any anti-gay fundies who say those things.
Linked for size (http://boingboing.net/2012/02/15/tom-the-dancing-bug-god-man-3.html)
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/422041_281854668547019_150750831657404_701034_1845538462_n.jpg)I just gotta say, I love this one. Nothing like pointing out a bit of hypocrisy.
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I want to get this printed on a t-shirt.
I want to punch him. Badly.
We can be t-shirt pals.T-shirt pals? Yay! ;D
Well I guess by "honest rape" he meant that the person has actually been raped compared to someone merely lying that she has been raped in order to get an abortion.Yeah, that is evident from the context. But the phrase itself is ridiculous.
You know what my problem is, honestly? It was a stupid fight to pick. He could have just said, "I believe there should be an exception for rape" & left it at that. That you have to have really been raped is sort of implied.
In Santorum's defense, he's a terrible excuse for a human being.
In Santorum's defense, he's a terrible excuse for a human being.
But then what will be the point of outsourcing?MasterLock brought a company back here to Milwaukee. The price of shipping and other fees outdid the savings of slave labor! They even have a union now! ;D
Funny thing, there's actually one Lantern that is about Greed (Orange). At least according to TV Tropes.
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This assumes that they are actually targeting the fly.
Bennett is my hero.
This assumes that they are actually targeting the fly.
Well, I am pretty sure there are a few—just a few—folks that actually think fraud is a problem and ID laws are the solution.Bennett is my hero.
Hands, off! I called him first! (http://fstdt.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=pg&thread=5734&page=154#343735)
Incidentally, you really don't want to look into the eye of the Beholder.
(D&D ref off the port bow!)
Incidentally, you really don't want to look into the eye of the Beholder.
(D&D ref off the port bow!)
Why? All it does is create an antimagic field. Last time I checked, none of us were spellcasters.
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I love Clay Bennet, he's one of my favorite political cartoonists.
It's a child's game. The first half asks "where are the people?" because your fingers are on the outside, then you put your fingers inside and do it again, and then it's "and see all the people."
It's a child's game. The first half asks "where are the people?" because your fingers are on the outside, then you put your fingers inside and do it again, and then it's "and see all the people."
Yeah, I get that, but I don't get how the condom is a joke. All I can think is something like... there's no people in the church now because contraception prevented them from being born? The people are covered in condoms? The people ARE condoms??
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I thoroughly disagree with the race baiting seeds also using the tao. That doesn't make a lick of sense, in context. The tao is all about ACTUAL balance, not what Fox claims it is.
I think that's the joke...
They use race-baiting, yet claim to be fair and balanced. Hence, they are putting a 'truly balanced' sticker on to something obviously not fair and balanced.
I could be reading it wrong and being dumb, however.
I assumed I'd missed something in the news about Fox going after taoists... >_>I thoroughly disagree with the race baiting seeds also using the tao. That doesn't make a lick of sense, in context. The tao is all about ACTUAL balance, not what Fox claims it is.
I think that's the joke...
They use race-baiting, yet claim to be fair and balanced. Hence, they are putting a 'truly balanced' sticker on to something obviously not fair and balanced.
I could be reading it wrong and being dumb, however.
I read it how Miles did.
I thoroughly disagree with the race baiting seeds also using the tao. That doesn't make a lick of sense, in context. The tao is all about ACTUAL balance, not what Fox claims it is.Small nitpick but the symbol is actually called the taijitu (太极图/太極圖), meaning something roughly like the 'image of ultimate power'. It was created by the neo-confucian philosopher Zhou Dunyi some 1500 years after Laozi described tao (dao in modern romanization and 道 in hanzi) in the terms that would form the approximate base of the nightmarish collocation of philosophies and religious practices which get lumped under the vague grouping of 'daoism'.
I am horribly amused at the idea of Santorum having his name stitched onto his own butt.
While the "It Gets Better" project does probably lack some class awareness...what's the alternative? "If you're poor, black or hispanic, urban, and gay, it never gets better so just swallow a gun right now before it gets worse"?
Swing and a miss!
Swing and a miss!
No, really. The cartoon is criticizing the program for telling gay kids "hey, don't kill yourself, life gets better, here's my story to prove it" because it doesn't apply to white upper class males. Which might be true, but it doesn't render the overall message ("no matter how bad it is right now, your life can always get better") false. Maybe I'm reading it wrong, if so tell me.
Other way around. According to Dan Savage, only white gay males get to be told it gets better. Hence 0 class awareness. He doesn't give a fuck about transpeople or black lesbians, or hispanic bisexuals.
Swing and a miss!
No, really. The cartoon is criticizing the program for telling gay kids "hey, don't kill yourself, life gets better, here's my story to prove it" because it doesn't apply to white upper class males. Which might be true, but it doesn't render the overall message ("no matter how bad it is right now, your life can always get better") false. Maybe I'm reading it wrong, if so tell me.
Other way around. According to Dan Savage, only white gay males get to be told it gets better. Hence 0 class awareness. He doesn't give a fuck about transpeople or black lesbians, or hispanic bisexuals.
Other way around. According to Dan Savage, only white gay males get to be told it gets better. Hence 0 class awareness. He doesn't give a fuck about transpeople or black lesbians, or hispanic bisexuals.
Sorry, I edited it to say "anyone but" after I posted it - I'm not a total idiot. Isn't the content for the project mostly user generated though? Would he turn away a video from a black lesbian or a transperson or a Hispanic bisexual? If yes, he would actively suppress videos from those groups, the the cartoon is spot on and I withdraw my complaint. If no, he wouldn't turn away videos from those folks if they were submitted, then we get into the secondary class issue of these being primarily youtube videos made by people with access to webcams and quality internet connections.
Swing and a miss!
No, really. The cartoon is criticizing the program for telling gay kids "hey, don't kill yourself, life gets better, here's my story to prove it" because it doesn't apply to white upper class males. Which might be true, but it doesn't render the overall message ("no matter how bad it is right now, your life can always get better") false. Maybe I'm reading it wrong, if so tell me.
Other way around. According to Dan Savage, only white gay males get to be told it gets better. Hence 0 class awareness. He doesn't give a fuck about transpeople or black lesbians, or hispanic bisexuals.
Holy crap! Where did he say that?
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ltfv5gvJ7w1qbqiluo1_400.jpg)Whilst I do get annoyed at people who talk about anti-white prejudice or racism or whatsoever you wish to call it in the same terms as they do the more severe socio-culturally reinforced forms of racism that PoCs encounter on a daily basis, I am not sure I can get behind a poster which just wilfully throws semantics out the window. The power dynamic is important and makes anti PoC racism a far more serious issue, but that just isn't what the word 'racism' means.
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rac·ism
noun \ˈrā-ˌsi-zəm also -ˌshi-\
Definition of RACISM
1: a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race
2: racial prejudice or discrimination
racism
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rac·ism
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noun
1. a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others.
2. a policy, system of government, etc., based upon or fostering such a doctrine; discrimination.
3. hatred or intolerance of another race or other races.
Not sure if this belongs here or in Funny Pictures, but considering that the picture is of Santorum, I think this works. Will move if asked.I've seen this, the Rick Santorum pic made up of gay porn, all I have to say is
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Whilst the mosaic contains NSFW content, it's too low-res to actually be NSFW.
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While I agree that whites are not oppressed, that poster is still lying.
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/racism (http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/racism)Quoterac·ism
noun \ˈrā-ˌsi-zəm also -ˌshi-\
Definition of RACISM
1: a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race
2: racial prejudice or discrimination
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Racism (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Racism)Quoteracism
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rac·ism
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noun
1. a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others.
2. a policy, system of government, etc., based upon or fostering such a doctrine; discrimination.
3. hatred or intolerance of another race or other races.
If you believe only whites can be racist and no one else, I've got a bridge to sell you.
Dan Savage is treating anti-LGBT bullying as "Oh, well as soon as you get out of college you can just grow up, move to Seattle, take a trip to Paris, and adopt a baby! It's just so simple!" No, no it's not.
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The thing I don't like about that poem is that it still keeps the focus on skin colour, maintaining the "us vs them" status quo. If the message was more along the lines of "you're coloured too" instead of "I'm less coloured than you", I'd be down with it, but as it stands, the undercurrents of hostility feel very counterproductive.
The thing I don't like about that poem is that it still keeps the focus on skin colour, maintaining the "us vs them" status quo. If the message was more along the lines of "you're coloured too" instead of "I'm less coloured than you", I'd be down with it, but as it stands, the undercurrents of hostility feel very counterproductive.
Same here. We are all people, people. Sure, some of us have it better than others for very stupid reasons. But as long as we keep on putting up divisions, we can never solve that.
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/404955_10150571586967108_552847107_9401377_462707736_n.jpg)Let me add to the last one:
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So, does that mean she is a hooker and in the slave trade?
Reminds me of this poem.
When I born, I black.
When I grow up, I black.
When I go in sun, I black.
When I scared, I black.
When I sick, I black.
And when I die, I still black.
And you white people.
When you born, you pink.
When you grow up, you white.
When you go in sun, you red.
When you cold, you blue.
When you scared, you yellow.
When you sick, you green
And when you die, you grey…
And you calling me colored??
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I think that may have been written back in the pseudo-ancient times when every black talked like Uncle Remus.
Through the magic of L'oreal's Revitalift 2 in 1 Cleanser.
Through the magic of L'oreal's Revitalift 2 in 1 Cleanser.
Why would Anne Frank stay 15?
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The thing I don't like about that poem is that it still keeps the focus on skin colour, maintaining the "us vs them" status quo. If the message was more along the lines of "you're coloured too" instead of "I'm less coloured than you", I'd be down with it, but as it stands, the undercurrents of hostility feel very counterproductive.We are all brown.
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Genuinely very hard without the answers. Also, is it just me, or is Mr. Burns actually to the left of Romney on the basis of these statements?
Tell that to the people who go from white to red. And albinos. :pThe thing I don't like about that poem is that it still keeps the focus on skin colour, maintaining the "us vs them" status quo. If the message was more along the lines of "you're coloured too" instead of "I'm less coloured than you", I'd be down with it, but as it stands, the undercurrents of hostility feel very counterproductive.We are all brown.
In summer we are all a slightly darker shade of brown.
This is fucking epic.(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/426571_10150565426196780_505906779_9133085_372006994_n.jpg)
Genuinely very hard without the answers. Also, is it just me, or is Mr. Burns actually to the left of Romney on the basis of these statements?
Probably because Mr. Burns is more of the comedic villain that occasionally does something right.
It's kinda hard to be to the right of Santorum without veering into Godwin territory.
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Explain?Basically his dog's shit creaped down the back of his windshield
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More of a reason to hate my state :(
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(http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/417335_2850145808644_1109432743_32167240_493189507_n.jpg)I get the point of this, and I agree with it, but it's incorrect about the free healthcare. Members of Congress, like all Federal employees, do have tax payer subsidized health insurance. But they also have to pay a portion of the insurance out of their paycheck.
-snip-I get the point of this, and I agree with it, but it's incorrect about the free healthcare. Members of Congress, like all Federal employees, do have tax payer subsidized health insurance. But they also have to pay a portion of the insurance out of their paycheck.
Their paycheck... that they get from tax payer money.
Yes, but once your paid it's your money. Since it's deducted from their paychecks it's not free.-snip-I get the point of this, and I agree with it, but it's incorrect about the free healthcare. Members of Congress, like all Federal employees, do have tax payer subsidized health insurance. But they also have to pay a portion of the insurance out of their paycheck.
Their paycheck... that they get from tax payer money.
Not a cartoon, but still awesome:
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You know, there's something I've always wondered about Pinocchio: If he were to verbalize a paradox ("This sentence is false.", etc.), would his nose rapidly grow and shrink over and over again?
You know, there's something I've always wondered about Pinocchio: If he were to verbalize a paradox ("This sentence is false.", etc.), would his nose rapidly grow and shrink over and over again?
You know, there's something I've always wondered about Pinocchio: If he were to verbalize a paradox ("This sentence is false.", etc.), would his nose rapidly grow and shrink over and over again?
...Apparently there's an entire Wikipedia page (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinocchio_paradox) dedicated to that.
You know, there's something I've always wondered about Pinocchio: If he were to verbalize a paradox ("This sentence is false.", etc.), would his nose rapidly grow and shrink over and over again?
...Apparently there's an entire Wikipedia page (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinocchio_paradox) dedicated to that.
You know, there's something I've always wondered about Pinocchio: If he were to verbalize a paradox ("This sentence is false.", etc.), would his nose rapidly grow and shrink over and over again?
...Apparently there's an entire Wikipedia page (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinocchio_paradox) dedicated to that.
I'm so glad we have a page devoted entirely to that. And it's longer than a few other articles I've seen.
Their paycheck... that they get from tax payer money.
The same of which could be said for teachers, firefighters, police officers, etc. It isn't tax payer money once it goes into their paycheck, it's their money.
Their paycheck... that they get from tax payer money.
The same of which could be said for teachers, firefighters, police officers, etc. It isn't tax payer money once it goes into their paycheck, it's their money.
Try telling hat to cons.
^^
This logic is a slippery slope.
My money goes to the paycheck of every service and industry I give money to. Ergo, I can tell them what to do with said money? Eh, no.
The army provides it's service of protection. I could care less if s/he/they/whateverdude needs a skin mag to blow off some steam.
Wouldn’t it cost society more money to deal with all the unwanted babies than it would to help makes sure there aren’t so many in the first place?
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I think they should only be able to claim status of “The Party of Lincoln” if their platform is identical to the Republican platform of 1860.Anti-slavery is still a legitimate issue. Slavery rings still circle the globe. Not that most Americans give two shits.
True that. Also the only one who has not made any outright racist statements is Romney.I think they should only be able to claim status of “The Party of Lincoln” if their platform is identical to the Republican platform of 1860.Anti-slavery is still a legitimate issue. Slavery rings still circle the globe. Not that most Americans give two shits.
I think they should only be able to claim status of “The Party of Lincoln” if their platform is identical to the Republican platform of 1860.Anti-slavery is still a legitimate issue. Slavery rings still circle the globe. Not that most Americans give two shits.
Wouldn’t it cost society more money to deal with all the unwanted babies than it would to help makes sure there aren’t so many in the first place?Not if you just ignore the problem and let them die.
But then you have to pay for cleaning up the bodies.Wouldn’t it cost society more money to deal with all the unwanted babies than it would to help makes sure there aren’t so many in the first place?Not if you just ignore the problem and let them die.
Ok this is worst and best. But you'll understand why...
First
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and the response...
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maybe I'm ina liberal bubble but that doesn't seem like a very good anti-obama meme to me. Didn't they try that (and fail ) on Bill Clinton?
http://www.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeedpolitics/maybe-most-powerful-anti-obama-meme-of-2012
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Dear political cartoonists: Not every object in the image needs to be labeled. This comic would have worked just as well with about half of the text.
But not necessarily as well. The text adds a lot of clutter.This one the labels are necessary but others not so much
But then, I suppose the artist may be attempting to reach some of those audiences that need everything explained to them. In that case, it only does work with the labels.
But not necessarily as well. The text adds a lot of clutter.
But then, I suppose the artist may be attempting to reach some of those audiences that need everything explained to them. In that case, it only does work with the labels.
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Dear political cartoonists: Not every object in the image needs to be labeled. This comic would have worked just as well with about half of the text.
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Here's the Doonesbury strip that a few newspapers are refusing to run:
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...that's it? That sounds like your typical Doonesbury - no punchline, no humor, liberal commentary, and scene. What's got newspapers refusing to run it?
...that's it? That sounds like your typical Doonesbury - no punchline, no humor, liberal commentary, and scene. What's got newspapers refusing to run it?
I would imagine the fact that it portrays a woman getting an abortion and the tone of the comic being somewhat flippant about it.
Here's the Doonesbury strip that a few newspapers are refusing to run:
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(http://0.tqn.com/d/politicalhumor/1/7/m/9/4/Republican-Survival-Suit.jpg)Good but I would have added imaginary Sharia Law since protecting against Sharia law might make more sense in say Turkey
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/430250_322333407825820_112713662121130_858256_2071360345_n.jpg)That is offensive to drummers everywhere.
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Placed here, if for no other reason than the coinage of "horseberg".
Meanwhile, I posit that both are actually correct, as the ideologies they feared aren't necessarily mutually exclusive.
Meanwhile, I posit that both are actually correct, as the ideologies they feared aren't necessarily mutually exclusive.
Same here. I think Fareheit 451 actually has a nice blend on the concepts, even if it hits you a bit more heavily with the “Censorship!” end of the stick. Maybe Bradbury was closest of all?
Meanwhile, I posit that both are actually correct, as the ideologies they feared aren't necessarily mutually exclusive.
Same here. I think Fareheit 451 actually has a nice blend on the concepts, even if it hits you a bit more heavily with the “Censorship!” end of the stick. Maybe Bradbury was closest of all?
Meanwhile, I posit that both are actually correct, as the ideologies they feared aren't necessarily mutually exclusive.
Same here. I think Fareheit 451 actually has a nice blend on the concepts, even if it hits you a bit more heavily with the “Censorship!” end of the stick. Maybe Bradbury was closest of all?
It wasn't about censorship, it was about how television and mass media is ruining literature forever. He falls more on the "Huxley" side.
He also doesn't own a computer and thinks the internet is a scam.
the guy is a major luddite he thought the same about radioMeanwhile, I posit that both are actually correct, as the ideologies they feared aren't necessarily mutually exclusive.
Same here. I think Fareheit 451 actually has a nice blend on the concepts, even if it hits you a bit more heavily with the “Censorship!” end of the stick. Maybe Bradbury was closest of all?
It wasn't about censorship, it was about how television and mass media is ruining literature forever. He falls more on the "Huxley" side.
He also doesn't own a computer and thinks the internet is a scam.
To be fair he did finally release Fahrenheit 451 onto e-book format. It's odd that he wouldn't since it would be read which is the opposite of the fear he has.
Meanwhile, I posit that both are actually correct, as the ideologies they feared aren't necessarily mutually exclusive.
Same here. I think Fareheit 451 actually has a nice blend on the concepts, even if it hits you a bit more heavily with the “Censorship!” end of the stick. Maybe Bradbury was closest of all?
*coughs* "Bradbury has stated that the novel is not about censorship (http://www.laweekly.com/2007-05-31/news/ray-bradbury-fahrenheit-451-misinterpreted/), but a story about how television destroys interest in reading literature, which leads to a perception of knowledge as being composed of factoids, partial information devoid of context."
Though I do agree it's a good blend all things considered.
Meanwhile, I posit that both are actually correct, as the ideologies they feared aren't necessarily mutually exclusive.
Same here. I think Fareheit 451 actually has a nice blend on the concepts, even if it hits you a bit more heavily with the “Censorship!” end of the stick. Maybe Bradbury was closest of all?
*coughs* "Bradbury has stated that the novel is not about censorship (http://www.laweekly.com/2007-05-31/news/ray-bradbury-fahrenheit-451-misinterpreted/), but a story about how television destroys interest in reading literature, which leads to a perception of knowledge as being composed of factoids, partial information devoid of context."
Though I do agree it's a good blend all things considered.
What Bradbury intended and what people get out of it are often different things. As it is, although Montag’s wife helps exemplify this “TV is evil” thing, the vast amount of attention paid to the Censorship issue tends to make it much clearer and more memorable. Hell, the “TV is Evil” aspect didn’t even feature much in Beatty’s “history lesson,” instead focusing on a bit of “Political Correctness Gone Mad.” If Bradbury truly intended Farenheit 451’s primary theme to be anti-television, he failed.
Never said they were the same. I'm only saying it wasn't intended to be about censorship. People read it that way. And even his own publisher spread the idea it was about censorship. I was just pointing out it wasn't according to the Voice of God.
See as most critics including sparknotes say censorshipNever said they were the same. I'm only saying it wasn't intended to be about censorship. People read it that way. And even his own publisher spread the idea it was about censorship. I was just pointing out it wasn't according to the Voice of God.
Well, I do not put a lot of stock into “Death of the Author,” but it does have a certain range of applicability. While the author’s interpretation of a work is usually “more correct” it does not invalidate the correctness of what other people get in it. But the fact that it is easier to get a different message than what was supposedly intended in this case may give Death of the Author just a bit more pull.
As near as I can tell the “It’s about television” comment was relatively recent, too. And memory is pretty damn fickle after half a century. It’s likely that an older, even grumpier Bradbury is looking at it through a distorted lens.Probably as that interpretation makes less sense with the internet becoming a giant fact checker
Meanwhile, I posit that both are actually correct, as the ideologies they feared aren't necessarily mutually exclusive.
Same here. I think Fareheit 451 actually has a nice blend on the concepts, even if it hits you a bit more heavily with the “Censorship!” end of the stick. Maybe Bradbury was closest of all?
It wasn't about censorship, it was about how television and mass media is ruining literature forever. He falls more on the "Huxley" side.
He also doesn't own a computer and thinks the internet is a scam.
To be fair he did finally release Fahrenheit 451 onto e-book format. It's odd that he wouldn't since it would be read which is the opposite of the fear he has.
Fahrenheit 451: I'm not buying the "it's about television" intepretation, not least because said interpretation came about long after the "it's about censorship" one had been freely allowed to flourish, and after, apparently, Bradbury wrote an introduction agreeing with the idea. I can't help but feel that the newer interpretation is Bradbury wanting to have a rant about modern media and linking it to his book in order to get headlines. What's annoying is, Bradbury's a writer. He could write another fucking book that is about television, and have publishers bill it as the spiritual sequel to F451, but as far as I'm aware, this hasn't happened.I guess this is why the "it's not about censorship" claim is odd. I have an edition of 451 where in his introduction he writes about the horrors of censorship, the irony of his book being banned, how he emphasized censorship in his re-write for the stage version... He talks about censorship non-stop.
*coughs* "Bradbury has stated that the novel is not about censorship (http://www.laweekly.com/2007-05-31/news/ray-bradbury-fahrenheit-451-misinterpreted/), but a story about how television destroys interest in reading literature, which leads to a perception of knowledge as being composed of factoids, partial information devoid of context."None of which covers the active destruction of books, the social disintegration or the stunningly self destructive behavior repeatedly demonstrated. It's exaggerated social commentary, hitting a number of topics and assigning it a single meaning is rather insulting to the material. And unlike a lot of other similar books, it's actually an interesting read.
Though I do agree it's a good blend all things considered.
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*coughs* "Bradbury has stated that the novel is not about censorship (http://www.laweekly.com/2007-05-31/news/ray-bradbury-fahrenheit-451-misinterpreted/), but a story about how television destroys interest in reading literature, which leads to a perception of knowledge as being composed of factoids, partial information devoid of context."None of which covers the active destruction of books, the social disintegration or the stunningly self destructive behavior repeatedly demonstrated. It's exaggerated social commentary, hitting a number of topics and assigning it a single meaning is rather insulting to the material. And unlike a lot of other similar books, it's actually an interesting read.
Though I do agree it's a good blend all things considered.
Edit: Douple plus bonus, I'd never have given a squat about Bradbury's writing without having watched Ray Bradbury Theater as a kid. Make of that what you will.
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451 is quite a dumb, derivative book. Not sure why popular.Not sure what's derivative about it, but I found it straight and to the point, and a good read for an afternoon. Not sure why...
451 is quite a dumb, derivative book. Not sure why popular.
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All I know is the only reason Bush hasn't been charged with shit is, well, you know, you can't hold an American President responsible for jack squat! Unless they're a black, Kenyan, Socialist Muslim, of course.
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Reminds me of http://www.arrestblair.org/.
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All I know is the only reason Bush hasn't been charged with shit is, well, you know, you can't hold an American President responsible for jack squat! Unless they're a black, Kenyan, Socialist Muslim, of course.Another reason is that the US still isn't big on the idea of international law and justice and hasn't joined the ICC.
Quiet, socialist!All I know is the only reason Bush hasn't been charged with shit is, well, you know, you can't hold an American President responsible for jack squat! Unless they're a black, Kenyan, Socialist Muslim, of course.Another reason is that the US still isn't big on the idea of international law and justice and hasn't joined the ICC.
451 is quite a dumb, derivative book. Not sure why popular.Not sure what's derivative about it, but I found it straight and to the point, and a good read for an afternoon. Not sure why...
I'm not in the mood to get into a long debate about it, but I'll say this.451 is quite a dumb, derivative book. Not sure why popular.Not sure what's derivative about it, but I found it straight and to the point, and a good read for an afternoon. Not sure why...
The writing is dumb. The idea isn't all that. The characters are shallow and the females ones aren't even that. The conclusion is nothing. The plot doesn't happen. It's only a book in that a book is two covers with word-covered paper in the middle.
It's 1984 if Orwell was shit. '84 is the best of these dystopians, actually- it's significantly better than Brave New World, which is definitely okayish.
Haven't read the Flies so can't comment. The movie is okay, I guess.
Totally not understanding all this Bradbury and Lord of the Flies hate.It's called I'm shocked that Fred is using potty language when stating his birth-given right to have an opinion.
Haven't read the Flies so can't comment. The movie is okay, I guess.
Which one?
I didn't realise there'd been a new version made.
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/424967_387170181311229_196601040368145_1449875_215782248_n.jpg)Festive AND accurate!
Hey, man... if you see it on the internet, it MUST BE TRUE! ;)
Of course. It is all so educational on the Internet. And not many people know this, but that educational aspect goes hand in hand with the Internet being for porn.Education... porn... coincidence? I THINK NOT!!!
Oh yeah... teach me about those woolly mammoths... fill my mind with trivia about bees... oh, I love how you explain the menstrual cycle... gimme those food facts, oh yes......I need an adult! :-\
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m15fqiM1ss1qa4ff3o1_500.jpg)I dont think the Jim Crow label was necessary the Klan hood is universal
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I dont think the Jim Crow label was necessary the Klan hood is universal
(Although I still don't understand how getting an ID could be so difficult in USA.)
if they are so worried about voter ID just mail cards out when citizen turns 18That wouldn't achieve the goal of disenfranchising traditionally liberal voters.
I know I'm just trying to poke holes. Seriously you;re automatically registered and at the polling place you are given the option to register as a party memberif they are so worried about voter ID just mail cards out when citizen turns 18That wouldn't achieve the goal of disenfranchising traditionally liberal voters.
Sshhhhh. Don't tell them that, or they might try to take the internet away from us.I know I'm just trying to poke holes. Seriously you;re automatically registered and at the polling place you are given the option to register as a party memberif they are so worried about voter ID just mail cards out when citizen turns 18That wouldn't achieve the goal of disenfranchising traditionally liberal voters.
Also internet acess helps if you need to register
I find Ethanol completely useless for one thing you need petrol to make fertilizer
All I'm saying is for that reason among others ethanol is not the answer at least corn basedI find Ethanol completely useless for one thing you need petrol to make fertilizer
‘Round here, we just use cow shit.
It's also not the best solution for gas prices. Corn pricing is about stable and cheap as investing in Greece.All I'm saying is for that reason among others ethanol is not the answer at least corn basedI find Ethanol completely useless for one thing you need petrol to make fertilizer
‘Round here, we just use cow shit.
(http://images1.dailykos.com/i/user/331054/1079ckSMALL-drone-assassina.png)Could be but I still say hybrid cars as Diesel engines are expensive in america
Re; fuel prices, biodiesel is a good stop gap, until electric cars become mainstream.
(http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/428962_2925713990818_1499951260_32213820_656346424_n.jpg)JESUS FUCK ON A STICK that is terrifying. So this Ron Paul character, he's some kind of demon, right? :P
(http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ly2tzgoNla1qatfz0o1_500.gif)I am baffled the Dr. Pepper one is still being shown in 2012
I don't understand why someone would buy Dr. Pepper 10. Just go for the Diet instead.I think Diet has half the calories and 10 only has well 10
No, diet pop has no calories.thought the diet commercial campaign said half calories
It's probably to get even more women to buy it.
Well it did say it's not for you http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3iuG1OpnHP8It's probably to get even more women to buy it.
I tried some just to see what it tasted like.
Tastes like shit.
(http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ly2tzgoNla1qatfz0o1_500.gif)I am baffled the Dr. Pepper one is still being shown in 2012
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No, diet pop has no calories.thought the diet commercial campaign said half calories
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That makes no sense. Aspartame is used in diet sodas, not regular sodas.
My dad buys Mexican Coca-Cola because apparently it uses cane sugar and not aspartame (which according to him causes cancer).
I think all soda tastes like piss, by the way.
My dad buys Mexican Coca-Cola because apparently it uses cane sugar and not aspartame (which according to him causes cancer).
I think all soda tastes like piss, by the way.
Yeah, Coke and most sodas here contain HFCS.My dad buys Mexican Coca-Cola because apparently it uses cane sugar and not aspartame (which according to him causes cancer).
I think all soda tastes like piss, by the way.
Thought normal American coke uses High Fructose Corn Syrup (which I find tastes odd).
My dad buys Mexican Coca-Cola because apparently it uses cane sugar and not aspartame (which according to him causes cancer).
I think all soda tastes like piss, by the way.
I've heard worse. I heard someone say aspartame is part of a government conspiracy to kill all the black people for population control. And somehow Michael Jackson's death was worked into it. I think it was something about him being killed so he didn't tell everyone about the conspiracy :o. Why would he know? I guess someone told him thinking he was one of us whiteys or something. The person who said this was an otherwise "normal" and sane person.
My dad buys Mexican Coca-Cola because apparently it uses cane sugar and not aspartame (which according to him causes cancer).
I think all soda tastes like piss, by the way.
I've heard worse. I heard someone say aspartame is part of a government conspiracy to kill all the black people for population control. And somehow Michael Jackson's death was worked into it. I think it was something about him being killed so he didn't tell everyone about the conspiracy :o. Why would he know? I guess someone told him thinking he was one of us whiteys or something. The person who said this was an otherwise "normal" and sane person.
According to my dad, aspartame is just another plot by Big Pharma (which is run by the Bilderberg eugenicists) to give people cancer. Michael Jackson was killed by Big Pharma assassins to distract people from "what's really going on", but has little to do with aspartame.
Does he watch a lot of Alex Jones?
He watches Alex Jones. I don't know how often though.
I kind of wonder what would happen if I wrote a sci-fi/fantasy book with this "mythos" in place.
He watches Alex Jones. I don't know how often though.
I kind of wonder what would happen if I wrote a sci-fi/fantasy book with this "mythos" in place.
You should do it, they say the best art comes from a dark place and I think it would make a good film. :)
Then again, I'm sure my dad could make just as bizarre a sci-fi-flick. :(
My dad buys Mexican Coca-Cola because apparently it uses cane sugar and not aspartame (which according to him causes cancer).
I think all soda tastes like piss, by the way.
I've heard worse. I heard someone say aspartame is part of a government conspiracy to kill all the black people for population control. And somehow Michael Jackson's death was worked into it. I think it was something about him being killed so he didn't tell everyone about the conspiracy :o. Why would he know? I guess someone told him thinking he was one of us whiteys or something. The person who said this was an otherwise "normal" and sane person.
According to my dad, aspartame is just another plot by Big Pharma (which is run by the Bilderberg eugenicists) to give people cancer. Michael Jackson was killed by Big Pharma assassins to distract people from "what's really going on", but has little to do with aspartame.
(http://images1.dailykos.com/i/user/310373/854small.png)Sorry, but that hardly qualifies as a 'Best' cartoon. I may agree with its message, but I can't find it actually funny.
Why the fuck would a pharmaceutical company have or hire assassins?
(http://images1.dailykos.com/i/user/310373/854small.png)Sorry, but that hardly qualifies as a 'Best' cartoon. I may agree with its message, but I can't find it actually funny.
(That's actually what's wrong with this (and the other) entire thread. 'Best' and 'Worst' are supposed to be about quality, instead they're divided along political stance)
Is anyone else jealous of him getting launched in a rocket?(http://images1.dailykos.com/i/user/310373/854small.png)Sorry, but that hardly qualifies as a 'Best' cartoon. I may agree with its message, but I can't find it actually funny.
(That's actually what's wrong with this (and the other) entire thread. 'Best' and 'Worst' are supposed to be about quality, instead they're divided along political stance)
"Best" can also apply to the message, when did the message of the cartoon stop applying, if you come across a right wing cartoon with a good message please post it.
I sure would love to see if the cartoonist(Micheal Ramirez) feels the same way towards conservative superpacs, after all he is a conservative...
Sadly Obama did say he hates superpacs while having oneI sure would love to see if the cartoonist(Micheal Ramirez) feels the same way towards conservative superpacs, after all he is a conservative...
Watch out, you might be falling into the "Bill Cinton had an affair, why don't liberals go him like they do (Insert Most Recent Case Here)?" trap. The cartoon appears to be criticizing Obama for simultaneously railing against Super PACS while using one or similar fundraising methods himself (whether or not that's accurate? I don't know). The cartoon itself isn't trying to express any sort of view on SuperPACS.
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Of course, we can't have poor people eating, now can we?
Sadly Obama did say he hates superpacs while having oneI sure would love to see if the cartoonist(Micheal Ramirez) feels the same way towards conservative superpacs, after all he is a conservative...
Watch out, you might be falling into the "Bill Cinton had an affair, why don't liberals go him like they do (Insert Most Recent Case Here)?" trap. The cartoon appears to be criticizing Obama for simultaneously railing against Super PACS while using one or similar fundraising methods himself (whether or not that's accurate? I don't know). The cartoon itself isn't trying to express any sort of view on SuperPACS.
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/552766_355985161106802_151145894924064_974409_691638518_n.jpg)Apart from the speaking for the family thing and the blatant political digs, this is actually respectable on some level. Putting the money where the mouth is, so to speak, and acknowledge what the consequence of no insurance is.
Don't "Treat" on me?
Shouldn't that go in "Worst"...? Or is it satire? I can't tell.But they earned it unlike all those other poor people *sarcasm*
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Not a cartoon, but...
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Today's edition of the Doonesbury strip that the Republicans have a problem with:
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Today's edition of the Doonesbury strip that the Republicans have a problem with:
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I'm definitely interested in finding out what happens next here... any new comics come out yet, or is this kinda done with?
Could be or just making quips his writing style is dry and sarcasticToday's edition of the Doonesbury strip that the Republicans have a problem with:
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I'm definitely interested in finding out what happens next here... any new comics come out yet, or is this kinda done with?
Did anyone ever get the feeling that the doxtor and nurse were essentially forced into this, and that was why they were making so many sardonic, impersonal remarks?
If so, that's a nice touch.
I could be seeing things, though.
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The complete Doonesbury abortion strip collection.
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that is a temporary error ususallyThe complete Doonesbury abortion strip collection.
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Linked for size.
Link doesn't work. 502 bad gateway.
Oh! Taxes! How quaint!
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(http://i937.photobucket.com/albums/ad220/mrtraffic97/555931_424554170903433_108038612554992_1617595_1003774086_n.jpg)Of course, further back, there were liberals in the Republican party and conservatives in the Democrat, I believe. I'm rather confused with the switch. Correct me if I'm wrong though.
I thought it was that Mitt is nothing more than a well-trained dog answering to the GOP.
I thought it was that Mitt is nothing more than a well-trained dog answering to the GOP.
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Actually, I kinda think this belongs in Worst, simply because it's using "They're like those big burly men forced to walk girly dogs" as an implied insult :-/
As someone who thinks men shouldn't care about whether they walk manly, big, small, or girly dogs, it feels a bit... oh, what's the term... homophobic?
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One of the best cartoons I've ever seen.
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In theory, the part with it not applying to private business isn't that bad, but it does ignore that there are some places where racism is a part of life, and that it says it's ok for one dick to infringe on other's liberty based on petty bs like the color of ones skin. Also those newletters don't really help Ron out on the racist stuff, especially since he was going around pimping them out, plus if there's a newletter being printed in my name, I would sure the hell make sure to read the fucking shit, so I know no bs is being printed in my name, and put a stop to the crap. With the newsletters, he's either a racist, or he's incompetent.
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In theory, the part with it not applying to private business isn't that bad, but it does ignore that there are some places where racism is a part of life, and that it says it's ok for one dick to infringe on other's liberty based on petty bs like the color of ones skin. Also those newletters don't really help Ron out on the racist stuff, especially since he was going around pimping them out, plus if there's a newletter being printed in my name, I would sure the hell make sure to read the fucking shit, so I know no bs is being printed in my name, and put a stop to the crap. With the newsletters, he's either a racist, or he's incompetent.
I think he admitted to reviewing them so racist
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In theory, the part with it not applying to private business isn't that bad, but it does ignore that there are some places where racism is a part of life, and that it says it's ok for one dick to infringe on other's liberty based on petty bs like the color of ones skin. Also those newletters don't really help Ron out on the racist stuff, especially since he was going around pimping them out, plus if there's a newletter being printed in my name, I would sure the hell make sure to read the fucking shit, so I know no bs is being printed in my name, and put a stop to the crap. With the newsletters, he's either a racist, or he's incompetent.
I think he admitted to reviewing them so racist
The newsletters not only bear his name, but he reviewed and signed off on every single one, which means he implicitly endorses their bigoted statements. Some Paulbots argue that the Ron Paul Freedom Report was written and edited by a ghost writer, not Paul himself. However, if that's the case then it would still only prove Paul's incompetence. From reading the newsletters, it's very clear that the group he was trying to rally was angry white racists.
Hey! Bruce Campbell can rock a Hawaiian shirt too!Bruce Campbell rocks anything and everything, therefore making it impossible to always mention him as an exception.
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In theory, the part with it not applying to private business isn't that bad, but it does ignore that there are some places where racism is a part of life, and that it says it's ok for one dick to infringe on other's liberty based on petty bs like the color of ones skin. Also those newletters don't really help Ron out on the racist stuff, especially since he was going around pimping them out, plus if there's a newletter being printed in my name, I would sure the hell make sure to read the fucking shit, so I know no bs is being printed in my name, and put a stop to the crap. With the newsletters, he's either a racist, or he's incompetent.
I think he admitted to reviewing them so racist
The newsletters not only bear his name, but he reviewed and signed off on every single one, which means he implicitly endorses their bigoted statements. Some Paulbots argue that the Ron Paul Freedom Report was written and edited by a ghost writer, not Paul himself. However, if that's the case then it would still only prove Paul's incompetence. From reading the newsletters, it's very clear that the group he was trying to rally was angry white racists.
Well, hey, if you absolutely hated any minority races, you'd probably be gunning for policies that made it so you didn't have to treat them like people either.
Paul's obsession with the "free market" basically stems from the fact that white males dominate businesses and not wanting to let anyone he deems a "lesser" get to an equal position of power. Of course, there are the unfortunate few that believe it is really for the best, as well as those corrupt asses that just want more of the pie.
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Reddit Bingo
Sadly, the author is a Glibertarian or it could have been quite funny.
"You can have a toaster if you work thirty hours for it. And even then it won't work."
Sadly, the author is a Glibertarian or it could have been quite funny.
"You can have a toaster if you work thirty hours for it. And even then it won't work."
Sadly, the author is a Glibertarian or it could have been quite funny.
"You can have a toaster if you work thirty hours for it. And even then it won't work."
I've never heard the term "Glibertarian". Can you explain what it means? Or did you just misspell Libertarian.
Of all the ones in the post, socialist sounds the most sane. However the problem is that any "pure" system doesn't work anywhere but on paper. The best I've seen so far is a capitalist/socialist hybrid, which is what most first world countries are currently, despite most claiming they aren't.
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I use the term Glibertarian to distinguish sub-human Randroids from people like Noam Chomsky or the followers of Proudhon or Bakunin. I may not agree with libertarianism any more, but they shouldn't have to share an ideology with that filth.
I use the term Glibertarian to distinguish sub-human Randroids from people like Noam Chomsky or the followers of Proudhon or Bakunin. I may not agree with libertarianism any more, but they shouldn't have to share an ideology with that filth.
I've never understood why Proudhon is so popular with anarchists. What he proposes is simply anarcho-capitalism with everyone being a small business owner.
With equal distribution of wealth and little to no private property...Nor, private property would still exist. Everyone one would be petty-bourgeois.
So is it like syndicalism?No, syndicalists are 'traditional' anarchists except that they look to the working class as the revolutionary agent (I like to think most anarchists do, but some don't) and are willing to work with current unions and workers organisations.
With equal distribution of wealth and little to no private property...Nor, private property would still exist. Everyone one would be petty-bourgeois.
With equal distribution of wealth and little to no private property...Nor, private property would still exist. Everyone one would be petty-bourgeois.
"Property is Theft?"
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It's making fun of those asshats who oppose stem cell research because it "kills babies" (which it doesn't), despite the sheer number of treatments and cures some research can offer.(http://cdn.twentytwowords.com/wp-content/uploads/Stem-Cell-Research.gif)
I don't get what the joke is supposed to be. Not very funny.
Proudhon believed in the equal distribution of wealth, so no property rights in a capitalist sense. But you can have private property like, you know, family photos and stuff. The inequal distribution of wealth is, among other things, murder and theft and all the rest.
(http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m2hhmqOpnn1r55d2io1_500.jpg)I would have eliminated the middle class label since the American dream is for everyone and besides less labels is better.
[snip]I would have eliminated the middle class label since the American dream is for everyone and besides less labels is better.
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[snip]I would have eliminated the middle class label since the American dream is for everyone and besides less labels is better.
I would have gotten rid of all the labels. Seriously, "corrupt corporate overlords"?
"Private sector, of course. Easier to hide my misdeeds."
"Private sector, of course. Easier to hide my misdeeds."
Ah, then you want to go to the Catholic church.
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Funny, it seems like breaking no.10 is the whole point of capitalism.
Also respect your parents dude respect is earned. According to George Carlin we only need 2 dont steal and dont killFunny, it seems like breaking no.10 is the whole point of capitalism.
Yep. And you know, this morning, I woke up to NPR Morning Edition with a brief story on all the fundies that insist Juesus and the Bible were anti-socialism and whatnot. Go figure.
Seeing that just reminds me of how the whole numbering at 10 thing is rather suspect. See, my school went with the version that had the “No other gods” and “No graven images” bit as one commandment and “Not covet your neighbor’s wife” and “Not covet your neighbor’s stuff” as separate commandments. It was years before I realized there was a different counting scheme going on with a lot of other folks.
Could also symbolize Rich-Poor relations too.Which, sadly, is almost the same thing. :/
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Mr. Minister, tear down that statue!
* There are Jews. There are Christians. But there is not, and never has been, any such fucking thing as a "Judeo-Christian" and the word itself just makes me sick.
To be fair these people are too dumb to know that Arabic speakers call god allah even Christians and they are even less likely to know that many live happy lives* There are Jews. There are Christians. But there is not, and never has been, any such fucking thing as a "Judeo-Christian" and the word itself just makes me sick.
They're pretty much trying to defend the Abrahamic religions while not being hypocritical when they say, "fuck them-thar towel headed sand niggers, nuke 'em all" (I hear this shit every fucking day) in reference to Muslims. They're still hypocritical fuckwits even if most are to stupid to know it, what with all the "Allah is a moon god" shit. They don't even recognize that it's the same as they're god, which like almost everything else is probably stolen from someone else.
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Let's not forget that there is a white entertainment channel.
It's called Fox News.
It's an antiquated term that, sadly, isn't going to go away any time soon.
The problem with what you suggest, though, is that it promotes race blindness... which is still very racist and white-leaning. The fact of the matter is, white people have 10 months out of the year, 95% of all books, and 99% of all video games dedicated to them. The reason this never gets played up is because it's taken for granted.
And that is precisely WHY there are books and tv channels devoted to black people. And gay people. And what have you.
True, but I don't think they should make their race or sexuality a major part of the story, unless it is specifically about civil rights. Stereotypes shouldn't be present. Plus it's not like people who aren't a part of the minority will enjoy it any less :-\.
I thought we were a melting pot, having other cultures and races assimilate into the collective.
Resistance is futile.
As I have to say every time race comes up, I'm not trying to come off as racist so please don't take it that way. For me equality means everyone is equal, which isn't what is happening now with regard to race and gender. The term "race" seems to imply a different species to me, so why it's still used is a mystery to me. We don't call a spotted dog and a one with a single color different races do we?
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Anyone else take this into Photoshop just to see if they could run the maze?
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Anyone else take this into Photoshop just to see if they could run the maze?
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What do I win?
Shit, I don't even get those when I vote!(http://media.timesfreepress.com/img/photos/2012/03/15/120315_Good_Luck_t618.jpg?ba5b5b122dd3d37cc13d83e92a6a0ec0d5bfa32a)
Anyone else take this into Photoshop just to see if they could run the maze?
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What do I win?
A sticker that says "I voted"
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...[Does research on subject]... Nope, still don't get it.
Shit, I don't even get those when I vote!(http://media.timesfreepress.com/img/photos/2012/03/15/120315_Good_Luck_t618.jpg?ba5b5b122dd3d37cc13d83e92a6a0ec0d5bfa32a)
Anyone else take this into Photoshop just to see if they could run the maze?
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What do I win?
A sticker that says "I voted"
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For the past 20 years he has come off as the 'windsock candidate who will go in what ever direction gets him the most power - he was a moderate who was all for health reform, pro-choice, tax law reformation - until he was put up for the highest office - now suddenly he is a dedicated pro-lifer, against any kind of healthcare reform, and likes the tax laws how they are - he has flipped on just about EVERY position he is running on.(http://punditkitchen.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/political-pictures-thanks-honey.jpg)
...[Does research on subject]... Nope, still don't get it.
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/581533_10150959270229377_654029376_13237811_1805586205_n.jpg)Fuck, I wish. The Bishops scare the fuck out of half of them with claims of eternal torment, the Rooks buy off the rest.
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More here (http://www.basvanoerle.com/?p=392)
It's about time someone brought order to that lawless wasteland.
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Why are their heads backwards?
I once knew a 7th grade girl who had two kids!
Maybe she's a prodigy.
But, yeah, I'm sure most states don't teach kids how to use contraception until high school.
Why are their heads backwards?
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Why are their heads backwards?
That's actually the only thing I didn't like about that comic.
QuoteI once knew a 7th grade girl who had two kids!
Was she in grade 7 due to being left back, or had she somehow managed to have two kids by the age of 12?
Well now that sounds like a totally reliable story, based on the kind of solid evidence we expect of those who make such bold assertions.
That was sarcasm.
She might have had twins.
Though I don't know if any 12/13-year old would be physically capable of carrying twins.
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I think this is a reference to the 2008 scandal wherein massive numbers of deceased people were put onto voting lists in Florida and California (and some other states), and were somehow voting from beyond the grave.
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I don't remember if this was already here, but just in case:
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I will accept “They kill birds” as a valid argument against wind power, though.
I will accept “They kill birds” as a valid argument against wind power, though.
Still less damaging than oil spills or coal mine accidents. Even if a windmill breaks down it is less damage to nature/people than if a different type of power plant critically damaged.
Also some people don't like the way windmills look and say that it spoils the natural beauty of the landscape. Not as badly as smoke belching coalplant though.
All things considered I support nuclear, water, wind and solar power but only if the safety precautions (and a safe location) are well thought out.
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Really, I'm a racist because I don't like Obama is valid? I don't understand politics?
Killing bin Laden, bringing an end to a decade long useless war, took out Gaddafi in another imperialist war and replaced him with the NTC, made up of Islamist fundies, pro-business/privatisation Western-educated businessmen or simply ex-Gaddafi people. These are all valid points to support Obama?
Also, Obama created the Super-Congress, so much for democracy.
Basically the Supercongress was when 3 law makers from each party got to decide most of the budgetReally, I'm a racist because I don't like Obama is valid? I don't understand politics?
Oops, missed those.Killing bin Laden, bringing an end to a decade long useless war, took out Gaddafi in another imperialist war and replaced him with the NTC, made up of Islamist fundies, pro-business/privatisation Western-educated businessmen or simply ex-Gaddafi people. These are all valid points to support Obama?
The first two are valid reasons. What would be the alternative? Letting bin Laden go is stupid, and the opposite of ending a useless war is letting it continue. The other candidates were all for staying in Iraq and Afghanistan indefinitely and starting a new war with Iran. How is that not a valid reason to support him? The third is also valid because, unlike Iraq where we invaded a peaceful nation under false pretenses instead of going after the person we were there for in the first place, the people there actually rose up first and needed our help. And Gaddafi was killed by them, not us. We helped, but they actually needed our help, so it's OK.Also, Obama created the Super-Congress, so much for democracy.
The what now?
The thing that gets me about nuclear is that the waste products it does produce can last too damn long. I just don’t feel it is responsible to push of responsibility for dealing with something onto generations so far removed that we aren’t even sure how to best communicate the importance of that responsibility (http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/green_room/2009/11/atomic_priesthoods_thorn_landscapes_and_munchian_pictograms.html).
The thing that gets me about nuclear is that the waste products it does produce can last too damn long. I just don’t feel it is responsible to push of responsibility for dealing with something onto generations so far removed that we aren’t even sure how to best communicate the importance of that responsibility (http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/green_room/2009/11/atomic_priesthoods_thorn_landscapes_and_munchian_pictograms.html).
While that's a good point, the other side of that is, to my understanding, the present inability of wind, solar, and hydroelectric power to handle the needs of the entire United States, much less the entire world. The technologies should be further developed, and there may come a day when it is feasible to use them to produce the majority of power, but right now they're not workable on the necessary scale while coal and nuclear are.
Untill we make improvements in the green energy nuclear power is a good short term solution. (Altough the waste certainly is a long term commitment.)
Untill we make improvements in the green energy nuclear power is a good short term solution. (Altough the waste certainly is a long term commitment.)
guys guys guys...I can solve our energy problem in one fell swoop.
Ironbite-Fire....sweet sweet fire that cleanses the earth clean
guys guys guys...I can solve our energy problem in one fell swoop.
Ironbite-Fire....sweet sweet fire that cleanses the earth clean
Technically... that DOES solve every problem ever....
It was my understanding that even as photovoltaic cells are getting better, it still requires a shit ton of them to generate sufficient power for current needs. Which creates a whole lot of extra concerns regarding maintenance, cleaning, space & other placement concerns, etc.
The thing that gets me about nuclear is that the waste products it does produce can last too damn long. I just don’t feel it is responsible to push of responsibility for dealing with something onto generations so far removed that we aren’t even sure how to best communicate the importance of that responsibility (http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/green_room/2009/11/atomic_priesthoods_thorn_landscapes_and_munchian_pictograms.html).
While that's a good point, the other side of that is, to my understanding, the present inability of wind, solar, and hydroelectric power to handle the needs of the entire United States, much less the entire world. The technologies should be further developed, and there may come a day when it is feasible to use them to produce the majority of power, but right now they're not workable on the necessary scale while coal and nuclear are.
QuoteAll things considered I support nuclear, water, wind and solar power but only if the safety precautions (and a safe location) are well thought out.
The thing that gets me about nuclear is that the waste products it does produce can last too damn long. I just don’t feel it is responsible to push of responsibility for dealing with something onto generations so far removed that we aren’t even sure how to best communicate the importance of that responsibility (http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/green_room/2009/11/atomic_priesthoods_thorn_landscapes_and_munchian_pictograms.html).
QuoteAll things considered I support nuclear, water, wind and solar power but only if the safety precautions (and a safe location) are well thought out.
The thing that gets me about nuclear is that the waste products it does produce can last too damn long. I just don’t feel it is responsible to push of responsibility for dealing with something onto generations so far removed that we aren’t even sure how to best communicate the importance of that responsibility (http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/green_room/2009/11/atomic_priesthoods_thorn_landscapes_and_munchian_pictograms.html).
I think the current solution is to use containers that have to be replaced every decade or so. that way people won't forget because there will always be containers reaching their "expiration date" and needing to be replaced. A good thing that comes from it is this creates jobs, though incredibly hazardous ones.
QuoteAll things considered I support nuclear, water, wind and solar power but only if the safety precautions (and a safe location) are well thought out.
The thing that gets me about nuclear is that the waste products it does produce can last too damn long. I just don’t feel it is responsible to push of responsibility for dealing with something onto generations so far removed that we aren’t even sure how to best communicate the importance of that responsibility (http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/green_room/2009/11/atomic_priesthoods_thorn_landscapes_and_munchian_pictograms.html).
I think the current solution is to use containers that have to be replaced every decade or so. that way people won't forget because there will always be containers reaching their "expiration date" and needing to be replaced. A good thing that comes from it is this creates jobs, though incredibly hazardous ones.
I know where we can dump our nuclear waste: Las Vegas.
Serves the bloody Nevadans right.
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(http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m2yxkidxbB1r24d9go1_1280.jpg)I actually reblogged this one on tumblr I saw some leaders compare being made to provide contreception to the oppression in China and Egypt
Someone tell me. Is this thread for good political cartoons? Or just ones that you agree with?
Because when judged as cartoons, a lot of these are actually really shitty.
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As much as I agree with the message, I would have put it in the "worst" section because two of the panels are walls of text.
Someone tell me. Is this thread for good political cartoons? Or just ones that you agree with?
Because when judged as cartoons, a lot of these are actually really shitty.
Someone tell me. Is this thread for good political cartoons? Or just ones that you agree with?
Because when judged as cartoons, a lot of these are actually really shitty.
I think it's for cartoons that make a good point.
Cartoons that make a bad point, or make it poorly, go into the other thread.
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Is this based on something Hannity actually said or is it just making fun of his position on such things?Quote(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/531350_10150683597841167_26595441166_9731957_1176640924_n.jpg)
Sizzle sizzle.
sizzle sizzle.I'm thinking more profanities shouted in French, sharpening of a blade and the nice sound of metal slicing through neck.
If he thinks nothing but rice and beans is okay, he should try it. Give us a demonstration, you know? I say he has to go three months, minimum.Coward wouldn't even be waterboarded for charity. Granted, I wouldn't want to be waterboarded under ANY circumstances, but I'm not the one saying it isn't torture.
Sorry, I still can't get past that part of the cartoon.
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Sizzle sizzle.
Oh it's possible to survive for a short while off rice. You won't live well, and it will probably significantly shorten your life and you'll have to kill wild animals for their meat because you can survive off rice it isn't enough to do menial labor for long periods of time. But my parents did it! Before they decided to say fuck you to the Khmer Rouge, and run away, anyways.
I would not want tobeworkingfor Foxduring this period.
Agreed. He looks more like the bastard child of Majin Buu and a condom.I disagree, it's not a Steve Bell cartoon.
Wow, if that's true...Barry gets brownie points for that. Going from "mountain of debt" to fucking PRESIDENT is a pretty big accomplishment...
Wow, if that's true...Barry gets brownie points for that. Going from "mountain of debt" to fucking PRESIDENT is a pretty big accomplishment...
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I dunno if this counts but:I've not seen that movie and while my mom liked it I do know a similar movie Avatar the trope is mighty whitey and yes it's annoying. Reason #1873 To Kill a Mockingbird was great was that Atticus didn't solve the racism
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as one of the 24% I am disappointed...
The Help
(http://i.imgur.com/VQbjV.jpg)They say thes numbers like they're all that much below normal. If I remember correctly it's not too much less than any other population segment barring old people.
as one of the 24% I am disappointed...
They say thes numbers like they're all that much below normal. If I remember correctly it's not too much less than any other population segment barring old people.
I've not seen that movie and while my mom liked it I do know a similar movie Avatar the trope is mighty whitey and yes it's annoying. Reason #1873 To Kill a Mockingbird was great was that Atticus didn't solve the racism
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3gowi2TwU1qjsewxo1_400.jpg)I think it counts
Can't decide if this goes here. What do you think?
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(http://www.filibustercartoons.com/comics/20110830.gif)The first one seems a little i dunno i guess Savage was low but Santorum didnt do anything to redeem himself. Maybe same image but doing it to a bi person and transexual person
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Not political, but still a good one.
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Three more years of Armacleggon, anyone?
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Three more years of Armacleggon, anyone?
What is this I don't even
No seriously, I've seen several comics in a similar style on this thread before... and I have no idea what they're supposed to be about or what is going on there.
Either way, I want two of whatever the artist is on.
What they hell do the English put in there tea?
The comic's about Boris Johnston being voted Mayor of London technically belonging to the Tory party, making gains whilst the main party is trying to rein him and his financers in towards the main party. I think.
The comic's about Boris Johnston being voted Mayor of London technically belonging to the Tory party, making gains whilst the main party is trying to rein him and his financers in towards the main party. I think.
What is this I don't even
No seriously, I've seen several comics in a similar style on this thread before... and I have no idea what they're supposed to be about or what is going on there.
Either way, I want two of whatever the artist is on.
The comic's about Boris Johnston being voted Mayor of London technically belonging to the Tory party, making gains whilst the main party is trying to rein him and his financers in towards the main party. I think.
I'm mildly disturbed that you know that.
Where the heck do you get all these Tennant gifs?
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TT_TT
My fundie book is the correct one!...
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My fundie book is the correct one!...
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... :o
This is what I get for not listening to the BBC in months.
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I guess... you really had to be there.I prefer the term 'MERICAN!
/me is a yank.
It's not that bad (though yes, a dominatrix Merkel in a pickelhaube is kinda creepy), it's just (IMO) an overly-optimistic cartoon about Hollande and his government.
Wait, I don't understand the politics in that. Unless it's a racist caricature, in which case I think it belongs in the worse political cartoon thread.
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3qd68RyDP1r81imfo1_500.jpg)I give a big "Fuck Yeah" to this.
(http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m1v4k4eSls1qlh1nvo1_1280.jpg)A picture says a thousand words. Mostly WWJD? Certainly not say that. Therein lies the point. Awesome statement.
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3rnz0niLI1qbxkjao1_500.jpg)It's North Carolina. Hate to be stereotypical, but that was probably drawn up and put on waiting a good week in advance of the vote. The American South isn't exactly known for its love and tolerance of anything perceived outside the "norm".
Well that was quick.
I'm outside the norm. I'm not dead. Yet.
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Wait, now there are even laws to prevent you from even finding out what fucking district you’re in?!
Wait, now there are even laws to prevent you from even finding out what fucking district you’re in?!
Well the authorities said that they didn't need to provide her the information if she asked them to, not that she wasn't allowed to find the information herself.
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It's so perturbing... I think of any reason why it wouldn't show. Eh... if it's my problem only I'll just deal with it. Maybe fiddle around with my settings some, but like I said, there's no reason why the pics shouldn't show up.
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m43ikf4veL1qcqoybo1_500.jpg)Rush I think likes 2 of those
Just two?(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m43ikf4veL1qcqoybo1_500.jpg)Rush I think likes 2 of those
I'm being generous and saying he likes Child labor (gingritch support) and and hates womens rightsJust two?(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m43ikf4veL1qcqoybo1_500.jpg)Rush I think likes 2 of those
Here's one more.Okay definately 2 not sure about 3 and 4
http://fstdt.net/QuoteComment.aspx?QID=84973
It's so perturbing... I think of any reason why it wouldn't show. Eh... if it's my problem only I'll just deal with it. Maybe fiddle around with my settings some, but like I said, there's no reason why the pics shouldn't show up.
I don't know what I can do to help - they work fine for me... :-[
"President Obama came out with approval of same-sex marriage. He said that over the years, he has been going through an evolution on the issue. That makes opponents on the far right doubly angry. They don't believe in gay marriage OR evolution." –Jimmy Kimmel
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try this one...
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(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3rpnaWuzv1r6a9a4o1_1280.gif)I heard on TYT transgender unemployment is 90%
It's been a while since I've used a public restroom that there were people in. But I still get a mini-panic attack when I think about such things. Especially since people are starting to see me as male but I'm still too much of a coward to use the male restrooms.hugs shep
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It's been a while since I've used a public restroom that there were people in. But I still get a mini-panic attack when I think about such things. Especially since people are starting to see me as male but I'm still too much of a coward to use the male restrooms.
It's been a while since I've used a public restroom that there were people in. But I still get a mini-panic attack when I think about such things. Especially since people are starting to see me as male but I'm still too much of a coward to use the male restrooms.
I know you know this, but I'll tell you what a transman friend said to me about a year ago
"You know, at first I was nervous to use the male's room. I knew if I used the female's room I would get weird looks or yelled at and felt if I used the male's room I would get beaten up, but that's not true. Everyone in the male's room won't even look at you, and would never speak to you because they're afraid of looking like a homo."
May be a bit backhanded, but you get the idea.
It's been a while since I've used a public restroom that there were people in. But I still get a mini-panic attack when I think about such things. Especially since people are starting to see me as male but I'm still too much of a coward to use the male restrooms.
I know you know this, but I'll tell you what a transman friend said to me about a year ago
"You know, at first I was nervous to use the male's room. I knew if I used the female's room I would get weird looks or yelled at and felt if I used the male's room I would get beaten up, but that's not true. Everyone in the male's room won't even look at you, and would never speak to you because they're afraid of looking like a homo."
May be a bit backhanded, but you get the idea.
It's been a while since I've used a public restroom that there were people in. But I still get a mini-panic attack when I think about such things. Especially since people are starting to see me as male but I'm still too much of a coward to use the male restrooms.hugs shep
Thanks. And sorry for suddenly turning it to trans-stuff again. D:
How dare a political thread cause you to discuss something important and highly influential on your life. For shame! /sarcasmIt's been a while since I've used a public restroom that there were people in. But I still get a mini-panic attack when I think about such things. Especially since people are starting to see me as male but I'm still too much of a coward to use the male restrooms.
I know you know this, but I'll tell you what a transman friend said to me about a year ago
"You know, at first I was nervous to use the male's room. I knew if I used the female's room I would get weird looks or yelled at and felt if I used the male's room I would get beaten up, but that's not true. Everyone in the male's room won't even look at you, and would never speak to you because they're afraid of looking like a homo."
May be a bit backhanded, but you get the idea.
Yeah, I used to use them when I was younger and I don't really recall anyone looking at me.
I guess it helps that I'm not in public a lot to need to use the restroom while out there.It's been a while since I've used a public restroom that there were people in. But I still get a mini-panic attack when I think about such things. Especially since people are starting to see me as male but I'm still too much of a coward to use the male restrooms.hugs shep
Thanks. And sorry for suddenly turning it to trans-stuff again. D:
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The same thing but honest about it?(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m45gh9J9ss1rs9muoo1_500.jpg)
This makes a great point,but look who our alternative is.
I may not vote next election either... wow. I haven't really given much thought to that.I don't know. Even if I'm stuck between bad and really bad, isn't it better to go with bad?
I may not vote next election either... wow. I haven't really given much thought to that.I don't know. Even if I'm stuck between bad and really bad, isn't it better to go with bad?
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I would love to legitimately vote for a third party candidate that wasn't either incredibly naive or crazy. Haven't found one yet.I may not vote next election either... wow. I haven't really given much thought to that.I don't know. Even if I'm stuck between bad and really bad, isn't it better to go with bad?
Hm... the old "Better the devil you know, then the devil you don't" strategy. I may go with that... it's just a pity that only two parties have any chance in hell of candidates making it that far.
I would love to legitimately vote for a third party candidate that wasn't either incredibly naive or crazy. Haven't found one yet.I may not vote next election either... wow. I haven't really given much thought to that.I don't know. Even if I'm stuck between bad and really bad, isn't it better to go with bad?
Hm... the old "Better the devil you know, then the devil you don't" strategy. I may go with that... it's just a pity that only two parties have any chance in hell of candidates making it that far.
I have voted for Dennis Kucinich, though. That made me feel good.
EDIT:
I also wouldn't say "devil you know." I'm fine taking risks, but I know Romney well enough. I prefer calling it the "lesser of two evils" or "smaller pile of shit" principle. I always pick the smaller pile.
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I may not vote next election either... wow. I haven't really given much thought to that.I don't know. Even if I'm stuck between bad and really bad, isn't it better to go with bad?
Hm... the old "Better the devil you know, then the devil you don't" strategy. I may go with that... it's just a pity that only two parties have any chance in hell of candidates making it that far.(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m4ofaf34s71rroz62o1_500.jpg)
Wow... I like that one. I've never actually been to that cemetery but I'd like to. People who've been there have told me it took their breath away.
Wow... I like that one. I've never actually been to that cemetery but I'd like to. People who've been there have told me it took their breath away.
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American companies threaten workers that if they do not accept benefit cuts, their jobs will go to Mexico. Mexicans are warned that if they do not accept cuts, their jobs will go to Honduras. Hondurans are intimidated that their jobs could go to Haiti. That is Haiti’s purpose. That is why living conditions in Haiti are not allowed to improve. This is essential to corporate profit, in the “free market system.”
Depends one alwys hard thing is Russia being as they buy and sell a lot of things yet is not a democracy.(http://fatamerican.tv/wp-content/uploads/2003/02/sweatshop-labor.gif)
Do you think if we didn't allow sweatshops, China would improve the working conditions for their citizens?QuoteAmerican companies threaten workers that if they do not accept benefit cuts, their jobs will go to Mexico. Mexicans are warned that if they do not accept cuts, their jobs will go to Honduras. Hondurans are intimidated that their jobs could go to Haiti. That is Haiti’s purpose. That is why living conditions in Haiti are not allowed to improve. This is essential to corporate profit, in the “free market system.”
Considering one cuts military spending and plays lip-service to me pet-social causes and the other wants to increase military spending and pay lip-service to other social causes, I can safely say I consider one pile of shit smaller than the other. It's still shit, just less clean up.I would love to legitimately vote for a third party candidate that wasn't either incredibly naive or crazy. Haven't found one yet.I may not vote next election either... wow. I haven't really given much thought to that.I don't know. Even if I'm stuck between bad and really bad, isn't it better to go with bad?
Hm... the old "Better the devil you know, then the devil you don't" strategy. I may go with that... it's just a pity that only two parties have any chance in hell of candidates making it that far.
I have voted for Dennis Kucinich, though. That made me feel good.
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I also wouldn't say "devil you know." I'm fine taking risks, but I know Romney well enough. I prefer calling it the "lesser of two evils" or "smaller pile of shit" principle. I always pick the smaller pile.
Except they're both equally large piles of shit.
Speaking of which, I recall a recent Mallard Fillmore comic strip (http://www.seattlepi.com/comics-and-games/fun/Mallard_Fillmore/2012-05-22/) about Obama talking about being the one responsible for killing Bin Laden.File that under worst especially since he really never brought it up that much
Speaking of which, I recall a recent Mallard Fillmore comic strip (http://www.seattlepi.com/comics-and-games/fun/Mallard_Fillmore/2012-05-22/) about Obama talking about being the one responsible for killing Bin Laden.File that under worst especially since he really never brought it up that much
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/chris-kelly/mallard-fillmore-makes-me_b_38124.htmlSpeaking of which, I recall a recent Mallard Fillmore comic strip (http://www.seattlepi.com/comics-and-games/fun/Mallard_Fillmore/2012-05-22/) about Obama talking about being the one responsible for killing Bin Laden.File that under worst especially since he really never brought it up that much
File it under worst because Mallard Fillmore.
File that under worst especially since he really never brought it up that muchWell, to be fair, he did bring it up on the one year anniversary, and got chastised for bragging and taking credit over the Navy SEALS from the right wing.
Speaking of which, I recall a recent Mallard Fillmore comic strip (http://www.seattlepi.com/comics-and-games/fun/Mallard_Fillmore/2012-05-22/) about Obama talking about being the one responsible for killing Bin Laden.File that under worst especially since he really never brought it up that much
File it under worst because Mallard Fillmore.
I know Germany's economy is working all right, these days,
Also, Germany have already went through their austerity measures.
Except that's bullshit. Greek productivity isn't lower than the average.
Also, Germany have already went through their austerity measures.
When?
Also, Germany have already went through their austerity measures.
When?
SPD government in the early 2000s under Gerhard Shroeder.
the two biggest problems are tax evasion and their bloated public sector bureucracy
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/me tries so hard to keep from saying "Because fezzes are cool".
Is she bi or gay and married the person she loved, like John Stoltenbergor Marcus Bachmann?
Is she bi or gay and married the person she loved, like John Stoltenbergor Marcus Bachmann?
NSFW and may not entirely be political:(click to show/hide)
(http://i.imgur.com/RdbEH.jpg)Repost but a fitting one nether the less
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m566daXiy51rxhq1xo1_500.jpg)Yep besides like 5 people in France even wears niqabs and literally none wear burqas
The burqua one is an extremely good point: our view that the burqua (or any of the other associated dress) is oppressive to women is a cultural view, a subjective one. Many women do in fact choose to wear such clothing, because their culture is different to ours. Difficult to understand, I know.technically those are niqabs but point still stands. But also many think how women in western society dress is oppressive to women seeing as it sexualizes them.
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(http://unfollowingjesus.com/files/2012/05/Jesus-On-Homsexuality.jpg)Old Testement on rape, Old Testement on rape, interpretation of Soddam and Gamora... Paul's usual bitching... Yep, still no word back from Jesus.
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The Old Testament says to execute gays. It has nothing to say about them marrying.
The OT was mistranslated...
The Old Testament Laws were considered paid for by Jesus' sacrifice. "You have heard ____, but I say ____"
It's a different ballgame once Jesus comes onto the field.
Since my entire Catholic education. In order to explain going from "crushing our enemies with faith" to "turning the other cheek," I was informed by my religious class instructors that Jesus was the "new Gospel" was what was important to follow, with the Ten Commandments and the faith of the prophets being what we could focus on.The Old Testament Laws were considered paid for by Jesus' sacrifice. "You have heard ____, but I say ____"
It's a different ballgame once Jesus comes onto the field.
Since when?
not a cartoon - but still need to share
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What does the v stand for? Vilify?
Ah. I though it was reference to the swear ban.
I will say that, under most circumstances (instances of abuse of power notwithstanding), cops are simply performing their duties; it's the laws that are stupid in that regard. </soapbox>
I will say that, under most circumstances (instances of abuse of power notwithstanding), cops are simply performing their duties; it's the laws that are stupid in that regard. </soapbox>
So? That doesn't make what they do right.
Police should not pick and choose which laws to follow and enforce. Those that do are what we like to call "corrupt cops."
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THIS 1000%! If the GOP spent half the energy into actually fixing the economy, we'd barely even have unemployment!
Yeah, but the GOP nowadays is all about opposing those "evil liberals" at every turn. We could get some shit done if the GOP was level headed, and gave a shit for the country, but I won't hold my breath on that one. Even republicans that used to be considered "moderate" like to join the batshit insane bandwagon every so often.
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CONSTITUENT: 10 bucks, that would give us a living wage.
YOUNG: How about getting a job?
CONSTITUENT: I do have one.
YOUNG: Well, then why do you want that benefit? Get a job.
CONSTITUENT: 10 bucks, that would give us a living wage.
YOUNG: How about getting a job?
CONSTITUENT: I do have one.
YOUNG: Well, then why do you want that benefit? Get a job.
That should be an Etch-A-Sketch instead of a flip-flop. Or maybe a flip-flop drawn on an Etch-A-Sketch.Or an Etch-A-Sketch flip-flop combo?
That should be an Etch-A-Sketch instead of a flip-flop. Or maybe a flip-flop drawn on an Etch-A-Sketch.Or an Etch-A-Sketch flip-flop combo?
If they did that, I would like something that came out of his mouth for once.That should be an Etch-A-Sketch instead of a flip-flop. Or maybe a flip-flop drawn on an Etch-A-Sketch.Or an Etch-A-Sketch flip-flop combo?
Or waffles!
What if I find both images arousing?
(https://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/s480x480/532537_495558787124546_91261495_n.jpg)Probably should invert that for yaoi fangirls
(https://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/s480x480/532537_495558787124546_91261495_n.jpg)What if you find the one on the left offensive because they both look like Edward Cullen to you?
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Gye aren't you all doing everything for my personal gratification. If you aren't, start right now.
(https://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/s480x480/532537_495558787124546_91261495_n.jpg)If there is one thing that will always piss me off, it will be the "guy on guy is ew, but girl on girl is hot" meme. Same thing the inversion of that stupid meme.
What if the one on the left just isn't your cup of tea (but not offended by any means)You at least get a free pass. I'm just sick of the double standards I've mentioned (don't get these words wrong).
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(https://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/s480x480/532537_495558787124546_91261495_n.jpg)How about this. I find myself, very often, filled with "ew" at guy on guy. It does not do it for me, never will. In a sad correlarry, and yes, straight male entitlement, I find woman on woman hot as fuck, even though that's a sign of them not wanting any, er, help. Yes, maybe I am homophobic, I don't know. I can't control my gut reaction of "ew."
You're not homophobic, you're an adult. You're allowed to not like things. Hell, you're allowed to think things are disgusting, vile, and downright nauseating. What you're not allowed to do is try to stamp those things out of existence if the only 'harm' they are doing to you or anyone else is that you know they are there.(https://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/s480x480/532537_495558787124546_91261495_n.jpg)How about this. I find myself, very often, filled with "ew" at guy on guy. It does not do it for me, never will. In a sad correlarry, and yes, straight male entitlement, I find woman on woman hot as fuck, even though that's a sign of them not wanting any, er, help. Yes, maybe I am homophobic, I don't know. I can't control my gut reaction of "ew."
What I can control is my response. I will not say "ew" to any gay male couple's face (hell, I'll probably leave it in my tiny brain where it belongs), I will fight for their right to have PDA in a decent manner as any straight couple, I will fight and support love in all forms, and I will also never accuse women of being affectionate towards another woman just to pick up guys.
Just my thoughts and all.
I'm nonplussed by both of them. Yay, Asexuality!
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I like it... :P
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(http://i.imgur.com/9O87D.jpg)Not to rain on your parade, but Strawman has a point (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/StrawmanHasAPoint). There actually is a risk compensation effect in play with regards to automobile safety, with drivers adjusting for improvements in safety technology by taking greater risks while driving—which is why, e.g., automobile fatalities in the US have declined only by 20% since the country's heyday of consumer protection.
Yeah to use the example of ABS people now are more likely to speed on ice(http://i.imgur.com/9O87D.jpg)Not to rain on your parade, but Strawman has a point (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/StrawmanHasAPoint). There actually is a risk compensation effect in play with regards to automobile safety, with drivers adjusting for improvements in safety technology by taking greater risks while driving—which is why, e.g., automobile fatalities in the US have declined only by 20% since the country's heyday of consumer protection.
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You guys are using a very strong word. 'Disgusting' is a very, very strong word. I really don't like that word when it comes to things like love and the like.
Besides, the caption did say offensive not if it squicks you or if you're not into it.
It's like saying I don't like to eat crab but someone else does. I don't find it my kind of thing, but it isn't offensive and I wouldn't try to ban crab eating.
Words are important.
You guys are using a very strong word. 'Disgusting' is a very, very strong word. I really don't like that word when it comes to things like love and the like.
Besides, the caption did say offensive not if it squicks you or if you're not into it.
It's like saying I don't like to eat crab but someone else does. I don't find it my kind of thing, but it isn't offensive and I wouldn't try to ban crab eating.
Words are important.
What if I'm using it to also describe myself? I just get grossed out by the male anatomy, including my own. Two guys (or women) can do what they want, and I'll support it 100%, including getting married and adopting. I just want nothing to do with it myself.
Are they ever going to realize this attitude of "OMG U 4GOT SUM1!!!!!" is the kind of thing that keeps people from taking them seriously? This is a sensitive enough topic as it is, without people losing their shit because a well-intentioned message happened to miss a particular group. Hell, when it comes to all this gender stuff, I can barely keep track of all the fucking classifications people make up to identify themselves. It's why I typically try to avoid this topic on the forums; I simple don't know what the hell half the definitions even mean.
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Sorry about the rant. The attitude of "OMG you don't agree with me 100%" that I get when it comes to sex/gender issues bugs the shit out of me, and makes it really hard to want to support these people/groups at all.
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Y'all... C'mon, now...Don't worry, they went.
Thanks, that got out of hands.Y'all... C'mon, now...Don't worry, they went.
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For those who forgot, the comic is about this kid: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0712/78068.html
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For those who forgot, the comic is about this kid: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0712/78068.html
And the best part is the right is having at a hissy fit over it.
Shouldn't it say liberals instead of conservatives?
(http://img.allvoices.com/thumbs/image/609/609/93673687-at-the-church-of-the-job-creators.jpg)Pretty much how I feel we're expected to act. You build your money on the work of others, but I forget, you deserve more tax breaks.
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(http://www.bartcop.com/stossel-babbling_4.jpg)*facepalm* Stossel "exposed" the professional "beggar" racket, didn't he.
(http://www.bartcop.com/stossel-babbling_4.jpg)*facepalm* Stossel "exposed" the professional "beggar" racket, didn't he.
This is also the guy that got slapped in the face by a professional wrestler, sued the wrestling company for half a million dollars, won, and then and cries about "frivolous lawsuits, tort reform, and non-economic damage caps."
Yeah, he got his, screw everyone else.
I looked it up on Wikipedia, because I was all "dafuq?". That happened in 1984, and he purportedly regrets the lawsuit now. I don't think it's quite fair to take someone to task for changing their opinion in the course of a decade or two. Besides, that lawsuit was hardly frivolous. Those were the days where wrestlers were (supposedly) under orders to physically assault anyone who said that wrestling was less than 100% real. Any company whose policy involves physical assault deserves to be sued.
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Well, we got rid of Osama and Saddam... or is this concerning purely domestic threats?
This isn't technically a political cartoon. I don't care, I'm posting it here anyway...."Gay Bowel Syndrome"? That's a new one...
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At one point Rush and Beck cheered cause Chicago didn't get the olympics.(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/251985_509419379083749_1107387687_n.jpg)
Didn’t Rush Limbaugh call that one?
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At one point Rush and Beck cheered cause Chicago didn't get the olympics.(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/251985_509419379083749_1107387687_n.jpg)
Didn’t Rush Limbaugh call that one?
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Pfft, the American dream never existed.Dreams are forever. Reality... well, that's a different thing entirely.
Pfft, the American dream never existed."It's called the American Dream cuz you have to be asleep to believe it" - George Carlin
not sure it counts as a cartoon or that everyone would agree but I think it's awesomeMaddow rocks. I find I agree with her on a lot of things.
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That cartoon gave me the sads. :(
That cartoon gave me the sads. :(
Same :(
That cartoon gave me the sads. :(
Same :(
I'm sorry it did. It gave me the sads, too. It's a harsh reality, sadly. :(
Needed to be seen, though in my opinion. Good pic, Shep.All studies on parents I've seen say that two parents are better than one. I have never seen one show any proof that the gender or sexual orientation mattered. Kids just work better with more parents since they get more attention. No disrespect to single parents, intended. That's hard work.
(http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m8ehdzyx5B1r6rtjh.jpg)I'd be curious to know what difference it would make if McCain had Romney as his VP.
(http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m8ehdzyx5B1r6rtjh.jpg)I'd be curious to know what difference it would make if McCain had Romney as his VP.
Can't tell if better or worse.(http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m8ehdzyx5B1r6rtjh.jpg)I'd be curious to know what difference it would make if McCain had Romney as his VP.
No Tea Party, McCain gets the racist vote and the rich dude vote, Obama still wins because the Republican Party at the time was at an all-time-low and no one wanted a repeat of Bush's eight years.
Can't tell if better or worse.(http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m8ehdzyx5B1r6rtjh.jpg)I'd be curious to know what difference it would make if McCain had Romney as his VP.
No Tea Party, McCain gets the racist vote and the rich dude vote, Obama still wins because the Republican Party at the time was at an all-time-low and no one wanted a repeat of Bush's eight years.
Okay so, I threw this together today, after getting the idea stuck in my tiny little brain. If it sucks, I'll get rid of it. If it's good... maybe I can get it to start spreading :D
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Minor Nitpick: There is a bunch of unnecessary empty space between the embryo and the lines of text under it. It would look a bit better if you either:
A) Raised the bottom text and shorten the whole image.
Or
B) Lowered the embryo so that it's spaced equally between the top and bottom.
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With the life discovered on Mars, is there any possibility of oil there?(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/s480x480/391294_488739664487613_1366902893_n.jpg)
If we could divert the funding to useful projects I'd be all for a 'liberation' of mars. Not like they can actually get anyone there.
With the life discovered on Mars, is there any possibility of oil there?
Maybe that will convince the government to start investing in the sciences and NASA again.With the life discovered on Mars, is there any possibility of oil there?
I thought NASA got hosed on that one, but if there were significant quantities it could be possible. I don't know about any decay timelines involved in fossil fuels though.
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I'm beginning to think that "Best Political Cartoons" is an oxymoron.http://i.imgur.com/lutJo.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/lutJo.jpg)
Also, One summer is not evidence of a climate trend that occurs over the course of hundreds to thousands of years
I'm beginning to think that "Best Political Cartoons" is an oxymoron.http://i.imgur.com/lutJo.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/lutJo.jpg)
Also, One summer is not evidence of a climate trend that occurs over the course of hundreds to thousands of years
Yes, but it resonates with the same douchefucks who think that an especially cold winter refutes the science of climate change.
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That argument is not going to defuse any Christian arguments. I've brought it up before and the response was always, "Those other forms of marriage existed only after the Fall, and while God allowed them, they were not ideal and always had negative effects. The only form of marriage God intended was ONE MAN ONE WOMAN because of Adam and Eve."
I'm beginning to think that "Best Political Cartoons" is an oxymoron.
I'm beginning to think that "Best Political Cartoons" is an oxymoron.
Depends on what you mean by best. From my experience it seems to be cartoons that the majority of the board agree with.
Also, One summer is not evidence of a climate trend that occurs over the course of hundreds to thousands of years
True also I think the whole term global warming is bull anyways where climate change fits better cause you see people say it's cold therefore it's not real when in reality warmer arctic temps can cause colder wintersAlso, One summer is not evidence of a climate trend that occurs over the course of hundreds to thousands of years
True. One record season is a blip on the charts. But when it's one in a long string (http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/) of record breaking temps on a record stretching back for over a hundred years then it's time to start thinking "You know, there might be some merit to this whole Global Warming idea..."
I'm beginning to think that "Best Political Cartoons" is an oxymoron.
Depends on what you mean by best. From my experience it seems to be cartoons that the majority of the board agree with.
For me the best political cartoons are the ones that make a logical point without labeling everything.
For me the best political cartoons are the ones that make a logical point without labeling everything.
Possibly, how often do you see such cartoons with a view point that forum members would disagree with.
For me the best political cartoons are the ones that make a logical point without labeling everything.
Possibly, how often do you see such cartoons with a view point that forum members would disagree with.
You're really gonna go there?
For me the best political cartoons are the ones that make a logical point without labeling everything.
Possibly, how often do you see such cartoons with a view point that forum members would disagree with.
You're really gonna go there?
Go where? I believe I made a legitimate point.
okay here are 3Go where? I believe I made a legitimate point.K money where your mouth is. Find us a right-wing political cartoon that doesn't paint Obama as some scary boogyman.
Ironbite-the die, as they say, has been cast.
I'll give $50 to anyone who can find a conservative political cartoon that doesn't translate into Obama=SOCIALIST MONSTER FROM HELL, or anything that may not come across as the pot calling the kettle black.
In a earlier post I said this:Ha HAAA - I can now buy 50 internets - as soon as they go on sale for a dollar a piece...I'll give $50 to anyone who can find a conservative political cartoon that doesn't translate into Obama=SOCIALIST MONSTER FROM HELL, or anything that may not come across as the pot calling the kettle black.Here's the $50
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I never said anything about it being real...
I am unsure if they were involved with the French and Indian War
An actual (and hilarious) political cartoon from 1912. Hidden due to size.(click to show/hide)
Where's GA? ;_;
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Wait, does Paul Ryan actually want to criminalize IVF?
I love the GOP's explaination of my lady parts...lolI didn't know I even had Chaff countermeasures... I wonder if I could deploy those at will...
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I'm not sure if lice get pregnant.They lay eggs I think.
Headlice certainly do.I'm not sure if lice get pregnant.They lay eggs I think.
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/s480x480/303590_10152055108890710_578625193_n.jpg)History geek hat on Darwin was not around in medieval times and I don't think the word feminist was invented.
Probably replace Darwin with Astronomy.(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/s480x480/303590_10152055108890710_578625193_n.jpg)History geek hat on Darwin was not around in medieval times and I don't think the word feminist was invented.
I'm having trouble finding those last two funny. Kristine's is disturbing, and Lexikon's just tells us what we already know, and nothing else.
I know this point is somewhat hackneyed, but since when was Jesus white?
Jesus is whatever color the people who live there are. No really look at Our Lady of Guadalupe and in Japan Mary is a GeishaI know this point is somewhat hackneyed, but since when was Jesus white?
If I had to hazard a guess, I'd say somewhere around the Crusades. Least, it'd make sense to me as a propaganda tool. The last thing you want your soldiers thinking is that their primary religious figure was of the culture you're actively trying to destroy.
Linked for size. (http://boingboing.net/2012/08/29/tom-the-dancing-bug-great-mom.html)
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(http://i.imgur.com/XwDu6.jpg)No mittens or flip flops?
Look at that little tinbot Mitt! :3
Here are a few takes on the world according to the United States.(http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/world_according_to_americans_large.png)
[The World according to Americans]
i can't tell if the African comment is supposed to be sarcastic, or if the person is genuinely disappointed in not knowing the continent well.I think he's genuinely disappointed.
i can't tell if the African comment is supposed to be sarcastic, or if the person is genuinely disappointed in not knowing the continent well.
Here are a few takes on the world according to the United States.(http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/world_according_to_americans_large.png)
[The World according to Americans]
The only projection I think really does justice is a globe... but... you all knew that.
The only projection I think really does justice is a globe... but... you all knew that.
Yes, you're very clever. (http://xkcd.com/977/)
(http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/376886_465794610118473_241728753_n.jpg)This one leads itself to misuse easily. There's maintaining a extant serious political discussion, and there's pushing politics into any unrelated situation.
Not a cartoon per say, but pretty funny...
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I'm having a hard time understanding what's going on in that photo.
I'm having a hard time understanding what's going on in that photo.
OWS police brutality?
I'm having a hard time understanding what's going on in that photo.
In my opinion, they should have removed stars from the flag itself for the same effect.
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Dammit, it's not showing up! >:( Am I doing something wrong?Yes. http://zzx_118811_600 is not a valid url.
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Don't you mean the Not Bad face?http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mav6x8OK001qzkrfxo1_1280.jpg (http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mav6x8OK001qzkrfxo1_1280.jpg)
His face looks a bit like the Me Gusta face.
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Don't know about good, but it is pretty fucking badass (linked for size):Not as badass as this one (from 2008, but still):
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Obama laid one shovel-sized palm upon the quaking creature’s forehead and, with infinite compassion on his face, brought his fingers together. “Civic responsibility begins with personal responsibility,” he explained, with brains still dripping from his clenched fist.
Don't know about good, but it is pretty fucking badass (linked for size):Would that be his presidental painting?
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No, Honey Badger!
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Oh, Rowson (http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h32/chanubi/common/aww.gif)I don't get it...
New Kelly!(click to show/hide)
(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2012/10/14/1350234904441/Martin-Rowson-13.10.2012-003.jpg)...what am I looking at?
I assume it's to do with the Jimmy Savile pedo-scandal? I don't recognise half the characters, though :(
The DNC made a new website making fun of Romney's non-existent tax plan details.
http://www.romneytaxplan.com/
Oh, Rowson (http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h32/chanubi/common/aww.gif)I don't get it...
New Kelly!(click to show/hide)
I kinda figured. But why's it in the 'best' thread? Cuz it's over the top (even for a political cartoon)?Oh, Rowson (http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h32/chanubi/common/aww.gif)I don't get it...
New Kelly!(click to show/hide)
Her3tik, it's implying that the way women dress drives men to assault them.
*barfs at the thought*
I kinda figured. But why's it in the 'best' thread? Cuz it's over the top (even for a political cartoon)?Oh, Rowson (http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h32/chanubi/common/aww.gif)I don't get it...
New Kelly!(click to show/hide)
Her3tik, it's implying that the way women dress drives men to assault them.
*barfs at the thought*
Anything by Dees is a best cartoon.
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Not a cartoon but...Humpty Romney sat on a wall(click to show/hide)
Question: which bit did the president really say?In the same vein
Answer: all of it.
The first part he said this week, and theAnimal Farmsecond part he said last week. I didn’t even write this cartoon.
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That is ummmmm, whoa!
Now that I'm not looking at this at 3AM and am no longer bone-tired, this is hilarious.(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mcjd95qnc41qk0cogo1_500.jpg)
That is ummmmm, whoa!
Came in here to post this. Fucking flawless cartoon.
I'll be honest, I'm not good at vague symbolism. Could someone please explain that?Now that I'm not looking at this at 3AM and am no longer bone-tired, this is hilarious.(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mcjd95qnc41qk0cogo1_500.jpg)
That is ummmmm, whoa!
Came in here to post this. Fucking flawless cartoon.
I'll be honest, I'm not good at vague symbolism. Could someone please explain that?
I'll be honest, I'm not good at vague symbolism. Could someone please explain that?Now that I'm not looking at this at 3AM and am no longer bone-tired, this is hilarious.(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mcjd95qnc41qk0cogo1_500.jpg)
That is ummmmm, whoa!
Came in here to post this. Fucking flawless cartoon.
I was under the impression that it was a paperclip. But a coathanger makes more sense, I suppose.
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I would stick that in the worst cartoons.
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Why, they pick and choose from both sources! When you do that, the two sources can't butt heads at all!
...Ow.
Why, they pick and choose from both sources! When you do that, the two sources can't butt heads at all!
...Ow.
I don't think you can pick and choose from something that is not allegorical.
Because everyone loves Guardian cartoons (http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cartoon/2012/nov/14/mervyn-king-triple-dip-recession1).Ok, someone is going to have to explain this
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Because everyone loves Guardian cartoons (http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cartoon/2012/nov/14/mervyn-king-triple-dip-recession1).Ok, someone is going to have to explain this
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That second one is so deliciously subtle...
That second one is so deliciously subtle...
Too subtle for me.
I'm kind of lost.
That second one is so deliciously subtle...
Too subtle for me.
I'm kind of lost.
The Republicans are now eating crow. :)
Specifically, eating crow is humiliation after being proven wrong when you've been a very strong proponent/opponent of something.
It's mostly a US colloquialism but it has some roots in the Bible. Leviticus calls crow forbidden to eat.
Speaking as a born and raised Oregonian (so, Northwest), I've heard 'eating crow' since I was young. And it's soda, dammit.
Speaking as a born and raised Oregonian (so, Northwest), I've heard 'eating crow' since I was young. And it's soda, dammit.
I'm from the Northeast, and have also heard the term "eating crow" and it is indeed 'soda'.
Ok so it's agreed. Material Defender's an idiot.
Ironbite-moving on.
Ok so it's agreed. Material Defender's an idiot.
Ironbite-moving on.
I just say soda and I'm a military brat so.
I'm just wondering, does it seem like conservatives are now the angry, easily offended ones nowdays? I read an article about how everyone loved Reagan because was always positive, and that the liberals were the whiny, unreasonable, and easily offended ones. Now its clearly the opposite.
Is it true that conservatives have gotten more cry-babyish? I'm only 17 so I wouldn't know.
I'm just wondering, does it seem like conservatives are now the angry, easily offended ones nowdays? I read an article about how everyone loved Reagan because was always positive, and that the liberals were the whiny, unreasonable, and easily offended ones. Now its clearly the opposite.
Is it true that conservatives have gotten more cry-babyish? I'm only 17 so I wouldn't know.
Not all of them, not even most. But this isn't a site about the majority of conservatives. Most conservatives are wonderful people with whom we disagree. They may be wrong abut most issues, but they aren't bad people.
But that fringe element that's abso-friggen-lutely nuts? Yeah, they're babies in denim diapers with a pistol holster.
What about Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh, Fox News, etc? They aren't fringe groups yet they whine like babies.
Also, I didn't mean that people who are conservative are whiny people, nor that all conservatives whine about politics. Sorry if that was easy to confuse. It just seems like their rhetoric is all based on whining about something. Of course every politician whines, it just seems like whenever conservatives have a problem, their only way of addressing that issue is whining about how they want to "restore America" or some vague bullshit.
What about Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh, Fox News, etc? They aren't fringe groups yet they whine like babies.
Also, I didn't mean that people who are conservative are whiny people, nor that all conservatives whine about politics. Sorry if that was easy to confuse. It just seems like their rhetoric is all based on whining about something. Of course every politician whines, it just seems like whenever conservatives have a problem, their only way of addressing that issue is whining about how they want to "restore America" or some vague bullshit.
Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh are fringe, actually. Same with Pat Robertson. Fox News has things over the range, but they've become more and more extreme to draw in viewers. The main issue is that the Republican party, not conservatives, got pulled over to the extreme by the tea party. This kind of pull over to the right and up has left them without any real direction because the 'restore america' to some mythical past that doesn't exist. They sound like Islamic Fundamentalists looking for a golden age that doesn't exist.
As a note, my father is a moderate conservative and he has found the Republicans so repugnant since Reagen he hasn't voted for them since then.
I'm just wondering, does it seem like conservatives are now the angry, easily offended ones nowdays? I read an article about how everyone loved Reagan because was always positive, and that the liberals were the whiny, unreasonable, and easily offended ones. Now its clearly the opposite.
Is it true that conservatives have gotten more cry-babyish? I'm only 17 so I wouldn't know.
Not all of them, not even most. But this isn't a site about the majority of conservatives. Most conservatives are wonderful people with whom we disagree. They may be wrong abut most issues, but they aren't bad people.
Auggy: First, I hope you don't mind the nickname. Second, I wasn't accusing you of that. I just wanted to climb on my soapbox for a while. Also, I wanted to use the phrase "denim diapers" really badly. Rusty and the others are fringe, they're just really loud and have a lot of exposure. They represent the far end. Though I'll admit that American politics has turned more and more to those fringes recently, and it worries me.
MD: Stop saying what I want to say five times better than I could. ;)
I'm just wondering, does it seem like conservatives are now the angry, easily offended ones nowdays? I read an article about how everyone loved Reagan because was always positive, and that the liberals were the whiny, unreasonable, and easily offended ones. Now its clearly the opposite.
Is it true that conservatives have gotten more cry-babyish? I'm only 17 so I wouldn't know.
Not all of them, not even most. But this isn't a site about the majority of conservatives. Most conservatives are wonderful people with whom we disagree. They may be wrong abut most issues, but they aren't bad people.
But that fringe element that's abso-friggen-lutely nuts? Yeah, they're babies in denim diapers with a pistol holster.
Also, if you need to emphasize, there's italics and bold, done by putting "i" or "b" in [brackets] at the start of the word or phrase and putting "/i" or "/b" at the end, also in brackets.
Another point is that Beck and Limbaugh generally aren't at their "Final Form"(IE: completely honest about their views) when they're on air.
Fool! This isn't even my final form! Time to go... Super Conservative... TIMES FOUR! HAAAAAAAAAAAAAA-
You said it was biblical, and the south is known for being into their bibles. Thus my assumption it's a southern thing. I mean, I know the Pop and Soda divergence tends to be east/west based.
But the full name is Soda-Pop, so nobody's wrong!
You said it was biblical, and the south is known for being into their bibles. Thus my assumption it's a southern thing. I mean, I know the Pop and Soda divergence tends to be east/west based.
But the full name is Soda-Pop, so nobody's wrong!
However the south isn't known for actually reading their bibles.
Reagan was one of the few executives who could honestly escape criminal prosecution on the basis that he had no idea what was going on and never made any decisions. Many of the people who were actually president were jailed.
You said it was biblical, and the south is known for being into their bibles. Thus my assumption it's a southern thing. I mean, I know the Pop and Soda divergence tends to be east/west based.
But the full name is Soda-Pop, so nobody's wrong!
However the south isn't known for actually reading their bibles.
Or reading...
My point is that many liberals are unfair to poor old Ronald. He never really did anything wrong. He read out some speeches and occasionally signed some documents. He wasn't responsible for Iran-Contra, he just didn't have the brainpower to understand it.
You said it was biblical, and the south is known for being into their bibles. Thus my assumption it's a southern thing. I mean, I know the Pop and Soda divergence tends to be east/west based.
But the full name is Soda-Pop, so nobody's wrong!
However the south isn't known for actually reading their bibles.
Or reading...
Okay, Please.....time for the non-Southerners with attitudes to "check your dribble-edge". It gets old, and depressing, when I see comments reflecting an old stereotype, and not experience. A Southern accent does not automatically signal bigotry, illiteracy, or mental retardation, or inbreeding. Yes, there are plenty of loud mouthed ignorant fuckwits here. I bet there are plenty where you live, too.
I was born in the South. Nearly all of us can read. A lot of us actually write what you like to read, too. Lots of famous authors of fine American literature are Southern (Harper Lee, Truman Capote, Anne Tyler, etc. etc. etc. So are most of the people at NASA, Redhills Missile Research (Ala.), Houston NASA mission control, etc. etc. ad nauseum. Georgia Tech is one of the best universities in the world (the MRI and PET scanners were developed there), and Duke, and etc. etc. etc.
Please remember, that just because a state votes red, doesn't mean there aren't lots of us blue folks living there. Usually a little less than 45% of the total population, but hardly something to dismiss, 'k? If the secession idiots actually got their way, half of those states' citizens would pack up and move back to civilization.
Okay, sorry....rant over... :)
You said it was biblical, and the south is known for being into their bibles. Thus my assumption it's a southern thing. I mean, I know the Pop and Soda divergence tends to be east/west based.
But the full name is Soda-Pop, so nobody's wrong!
However the south isn't known for actually reading their bibles.
Or reading...
Okay, Please.....time for the non-Southerners with attitudes to "check your dribble-edge". It gets old, and depressing, when I see comments reflecting an old stereotype, and not experience. A Southern accent does not automatically signal bigotry, illiteracy, or mental retardation, or inbreeding. Yes, there are plenty of loud mouthed ignorant fuckwits here. I bet there are plenty where you live, too.
I was born in the South. Nearly all of us can read. A lot of us actually write what you like to read, too. Lots of famous authors of fine American literature are Southern (Harper Lee, Truman Capote, Anne Tyler, etc. etc. etc. So are most of the people at NASA, Redhills Missile Research (Ala.), Houston NASA mission control, etc. etc. ad nauseum. Georgia Tech is one of the best universities in the world (the MRI and PET scanners were developed there), and Duke, and etc. etc. etc.
Please remember, that just because a state votes red, doesn't mean there aren't lots of us blue folks living there. Usually a little less than 45% of the total population, but hardly something to dismiss, 'k? If the secession idiots actually got their way, half of those states' citizens would pack up and move back to civilization.
Okay, sorry....rant over... :)
Reagan was one of the few executives who could honestly escape criminal prosecution on the basis that he had no idea what was going on and never made any decisions. Many of the people who were actually president were jailed.
I know that Reagan was an awful person in reality.
I was referring to his "stage act". He was praised for being positive and friendly, but today most republicans are praised by other republicans for "telling it like it is!" or "not afraid to be not politically correct!" (Read: being a douchebag).
My point is that many liberals are unfair to poor old Ronald. He never really did anything wrong. He read out some speeches and occasionally signed some documents. He wasn't responsible for Iran-Contra, he just didn't have the brainpower to understand it.
Sure... but that had nothing to do with my point. Whether he knew what he was doing or not he still acted happy on stage.
My point is that many liberals are unfair to poor old Ronald. He never really did anything wrong. He read out some speeches and occasionally signed some documents. He wasn't responsible for Iran-Contra, he just didn't have the brainpower to understand it.
Sure... but that had nothing to do with my point. Whether he knew what he was doing or not he still acted happy on stage.
Like Dubya?
You said it was biblical, and the south is known for being into their bibles. Thus my assumption it's a southern thing. I mean, I know the Pop and Soda divergence tends to be east/west based.
But the full name is Soda-Pop, so nobody's wrong!
However the south isn't known for actually reading their bibles.
Or reading...
You said it was biblical, and the south is known for being into their bibles. Thus my assumption it's a southern thing. I mean, I know the Pop and Soda divergence tends to be east/west based.
But the full name is Soda-Pop, so nobody's wrong!
However the south isn't known for actually reading their bibles.
Or reading...
Hey! I'm from the South, and I read. :-\
My point is that many liberals are unfair to poor old Ronald. He never really did anything wrong. He read out some speeches and occasionally signed some documents. He wasn't responsible for Iran-Contra, he just didn't have the brainpower to understand it.
It would help if southern politicians weren't so keen on cutting education. Like Haley Barbour.You said it was biblical, and the south is known for being into their bibles. Thus my assumption it's a southern thing. I mean, I know the Pop and Soda divergence tends to be east/west based.
But the full name is Soda-Pop, so nobody's wrong!
However the south isn't known for actually reading their bibles.
Or reading...
Hey! I'm from the South, and I read. :-\
Same here. But the stereotype of southerners not reading is kind of true for most...
Also many conservatives think education is snobby.
Plus there's the stigma of "Atheist libruls teachin homo-monkey-sex" (Professionals teaching sex-ed, evolution, Big bang theory, etc).
I'm not kidding about the last part. I remember in middle school us learning about how crappy the USA education system is compared to other countries, and a few students commenting "Well other countries must have better schools since they don't teach crap like atheism and evolution".
Also I remember reading a blog about Japanese high school's vs American high schools and one of the comments mentioned something about Japanese schools being better. Then they went off about how they would never let their kids go to a public school since they teach "atheistic theories like Big Bang and evolution" and how they took religion out of schools. She completely missed the point about how USA education hasn't been as good as other countries. The lady didn't seem to realize that Japan is less than 1% Christian, and that their schools are pretty much secular and provide a much better science curriculum. The lady who ran the blog replied back and refuted everything she said though, and the Christian lady had an "oh" sort of response.
Also many conservatives think education is snobby.
Plus there's the stigma of "Atheist libruls teachin homo-monkey-sex" (Professionals teaching sex-ed, evolution, Big bang theory, etc).
I'm not kidding about the last part. I remember in middle school us learning about how crappy the USA education system is compared to other countries, and a few students commenting "Well other countries must have better schools since they don't teach crap like atheism and evolution".
Also I remember reading a blog about Japanese high school's vs American high schools and one of the comments mentioned something about Japanese schools being better. Then they went off about how they would never let their kids go to a public school since they teach "atheistic theories like Big Bang and evolution" and how they took religion out of schools. She completely missed the point about how USA education hasn't been as good as other countries. The lady didn't seem to realize that Japan is less than 1% Christian, and that their schools are pretty much secular and provide a much better science curriculum. The lady who ran the blog replied back and refuted everything she said though, and the Christian lady had an "oh" sort of response.
I actually went to a Catholic Private School and got a better education than most high schools in the area because Catholicism places a high value on self-determination, history, and critical thinking, at least the more Liberal Catholicism in my area. It also helps that Catholicism doesn't go around trying to actively deny science, but instead conforms to it nowadays. We did have one protestant in my school, but I never asked him about his position on evolution or it all. He was from a conservative type family, but he didn't snub education. He just knew he wasn't very naturally smart, especially in comparison to some of the people he hung out with.
I want to get with some crazy conservatives that put Ayn Rand and Jesus on the same boat, and then explain how Jesus was really a communist, but its barest definition. I really do.
The lack of proper education in the South relative to the North is not a stereotype. Educational outcomes are worse, adjusting for all the usual stuff, than the North. That's the opposite of a stereotype.
The lack of proper education in the South relative to the North is not a stereotype. Educational outcomes are worse, adjusting for all the usual stuff, than the North. That's the opposite of a stereotype.
From what I hear a C in the north is like an A in the south. Is there any truth to this?
I dunno since I went to Pittsford which is one of the top 100 districts but I think the southern states rank lower on SATs
Even further off-topic, but I've heard both tests are utterly meaningless if you manage to get into a good community college before uni, one with a Guaranteed Admissions Program with your uni of choice.
Also, we're getting off topic.
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_me7qu6nlCG1rubozqo1_500.jpg)Kind of ironic given this picture:
Is it just me, or does Sam seem a little... malicious?
Though I do love how shocked the person is that they had a racial prejudice bug in their heads. In the sense that one would be shocked about discovering a dead mouse in their computer.
Is it just me, or does Sam seem a little... malicious?
Though I do love how shocked the person is that they had a racial prejudice bug in their heads. In the sense that one would be shocked about discovering a dead mouse in their computer.
It wouldn't be too shocking to find a dead mouse next to a computer. All you have to do is replace the batteries :P
Is it just me, or does Sam seem a little... malicious?
Though I do love how shocked the person is that they had a racial prejudice bug in their heads. In the sense that one would be shocked about discovering a dead mouse in their computer.
It wouldn't be too shocking to find a dead mouse next to a computer. All you have to do is replace the batteries :P
I said in the computer ;D
Also, I just realized that it was Dr. Seuss who drew that.
Last year, we weren't doing anything in our Chemistry class because it was the day before christmas break. I got bored and drew an awesome Christmas tree, snowman, penguin, etc, and wrote "Happy Holidays Everyone!". I went to check on it later and someone put an "X" over "Happy Holidays" and put "Merry Christmas".
Is Christmas not a holiday or something? Do other December holidays suddenly not exist anymore?
Seriously, do they expect everyone to give up their holiday and focus on Christmas, just so fundies they feel like they're better than everyone else?
Last year, we weren't doing anything in our Chemistry class because it was the day before christmas break. I got bored and drew an awesome Christmas tree, snowman, penguin, etc, and wrote "Happy Holidays Everyone!". I went to check on it later and someone put an "X" over "Happy Holidays" and put "Merry Christmas".
Is Christmas not a holiday or something? Do other December holidays suddenly not exist anymore?
Seriously, do they expect everyone to give up their holiday and focus on Christmas, just so fundies they feel like they're better than everyone else?
A couple years ago at work, a customer I had helped wished me a Happy Hanukkah. I thanked him, he asked if I was Jewish, and I said no but I appreciated the thought. Not 30 seconds after the guy disappeared, some lady walked over and screamed in my face because I was not offended by someone wishing me well in their holiday.
Yeah, I'm supposed be offended by good wishes for a holiday, even if it's not mine, but I'm not supposed to be offended by some bitch screaming in my face.
Now I purposely say, "Happy Holidays," just to piss them all off!
Unless it's Christmas, I generally tell everyone "Happy Holidays". Even if the person I'm saying it so is a Christian, there's still other things to celebrate, like New Year's.
Christmas is becoming more sexular though, which I like.
The funny thing is that "Chag Sameach", the traditional Hebrew greeting for all holy days, literally translates as "Happy Holidays".
Christmas is becoming more sexular though, which I like.
Yeah, I don't consider Christmas to be a purely Christian holiday anymore. I haven't been a Christian for a while, but I still celebrate Christmas, because, hey, presents (also family, charity, stuff like that).
The funny thing is that "Chag Sameach", the traditional Hebrew greeting for all holy days, literally translates as "Happy Holidays".
Is it offensive if I use that? I really like the sound.
The funny thing is that "Chag Sameach", the traditional Hebrew greeting for all holy days, literally translates as "Happy Holidays".
Is it offensive if I use that? I really like the sound.
Not at all. However, keep in mind that "ch" in Hebrew is a very different sound, almost like a deep-throated gurgle. If you say "Hag Sameah", you'll be OK. Prouncing the "ch" as in English may offend someone, and certainly constitutes butchery of the Hebrew language.
Christmas is becoming more sexular though, which I like.
A sexular Christmas is the best Christmas :D
The funny thing is that "Chag Sameach", the traditional Hebrew greeting for all holy days, literally translates as "Happy Holidays".
Is it offensive if I use that? I really like the sound.
Not at all. However, keep in mind that "ch" in Hebrew is a very different sound, almost like a deep-throated gurgle. If you say "Hag Sameah", you'll be OK. Prouncing the "ch" as in English may offend someone, and certainly constitutes butchery of the Hebrew language.
Is the "ch" like the "ch" in "loch"?
Another holiday question;
Why is it when Israel shoots missiles at another country, it's called Self Defense, but when someone wishes you Happy Hanukkah, it's a WAR on Christmas?
But you still liked it? Or did you mean to post this in the worst cartoons thread?
Be ye not fooled. This is for both the best worst political cartoons around!
But you still liked it? Or did you mean to post this in the worst cartoons thread?
sorry it's been a while and didn't see the "worst cartoons thread.Be ye not fooled. This is for both the best worst political cartoons around!
and apparently just got banned from the source page for this.
I guess that's a badge of honor?
Not sure that is why I do xmas. I call it xmas mostly because of Futurama. I also celebrate by sealing my fireplace to prevent Santa from killing meI celebrate it by dressing as Santa and trying to kill kefkaownsall. This year Imma shove coal so far up your stocking you'll be coughing up diamonds.
I think that was on here before.
I think that was on here before.
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Do you have any evidence to support the proposition that gays are nicer than straights? I would have assumed no difference.
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In short, double standards suck
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In short, double standards suck
Use the edit button, dude. And the tags [ img ] [ /img ] to post direct.
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In short, double standards suck
yet they're outcasts of society because they defy the stereotype of love - which is considered, according to holier-than-thou pundits "between a man and a woman." Also sad, is that most of the time - while there are some homosexual couples who don't get along either - the whole "man and a woman" thing is a bunch of fairy-tale bullshit, which is expressed in the second panel with the approved couple.
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B) The Titanic is an anomaly, otherwise women had generally low rates of survival, crew members had the highest. Also, such thinking was part of the whole 'chivalry' paradigm, which also justified refusing women the vote.
Wait, wait, wait. Who actually said that burning someone's house down and poisoning their dog is okay? That image just looked like some nonsense one would find on an MRA site. What garbage.
Yeah I would certainly look into whether or not that was real. And even if it were, it sounds like no more than an isolated event. I can think of dozens of outrageous cases in terms of criminal law, but such cases do not in anyway represent the norm. That is why the cartoon posted here is such an awful strawman.Wait, wait, wait. Who actually said that burning someone's house down and poisoning their dog is okay? That image just looked like some nonsense one would find on an MRA site. What garbage.
Reminds me of a situation where one time a woman got slapped once, and in retaliation tied him to the bed while he slept and burnt the house down, which was somehow justified retaliation. Mind you, I heard this by hearsay and it really seems more like a good story than a real event.
Yeah I would certainly look into whether or not that was real. And even if it were, it sounds like no more than an isolated event. I can think of dozens of outrageous cases in terms of criminal law, but such cases do not in anyway represent the norm. That is why the cartoon posted here is such an awful strawman.Wait, wait, wait. Who actually said that burning someone's house down and poisoning their dog is okay? That image just looked like some nonsense one would find on an MRA site. What garbage.
Reminds me of a situation where one time a woman got slapped once, and in retaliation tied him to the bed while he slept and burnt the house down, which was somehow justified retaliation. Mind you, I heard this by hearsay and it really seems more like a good story than a real event.
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Fahrenheit is based on the freezing and boiling points of seawater, whereas Celsius is based on the freezing/boiling points of fresh water. That's why there's a difference. It's really not an arbitrary scale at all.
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Fahrenheit is based on the freezing and boiling points of seawater, whereas Celsius is based on the freezing/boiling points of fresh water. That's why there's a difference. It's really not an arbitrary scale at all.
Why seawater? It's not something that one would boil regularly or care what the freezing point of it is.
Fahrenheit is based on the freezing and boiling points of seawater, whereas Celsius is based on the freezing/boiling points of fresh water. That's why there's a difference. It's really not an arbitrary scale at all.
That incident is real but missing fuck ton of context. She burned him while sleeping cause he was beating her constantly in fact that was where we get burning bed defense
That incident is real but missing fuck ton of context. She burned him while sleeping cause he was beating her constantly in fact that was where we get burning bed defense
Is it bad that I remember they made a made for TV movie out of the story??
That incident is real but missing fuck ton of context. She burned him while sleeping cause he was beating her constantly in fact that was where we get burning bed defense
Something about... horses?
That incident is real but missing fuck ton of context. She burned him while sleeping cause he was beating her constantly in fact that was where we get burning bed defense
Is it bad that I remember they made a made for TV movie out of the story??
Did Lifetime make it?
Something about... horses?
Yeah, it is. "Horseterity" is a pun off "horse" (as in heroin) and "austerity"Something about... horses?
Maybe it means austerity?
This thread is getting too understandable. Hit it:...why is there a bubblegum condom man?
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...that's better.
...
I have heard people quoting a study (but haven't seen the actual study) which claims that in ships that sank slowly women have a higher survival rate (because the crew and passengers have time to organise the escape to the boats) but on ships that sink quickly the survivors are those who were most physically fit (because in a panicked scramble for safety fit young men have the edge.)
But I think it was an old study anyway. With modern ships and safety measures things should be a bit more organised anyway. (unless we remember those recent cases where the crew abandoned the ship and the passengers...)
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Yeah, I know. People fighting for democracy and freedom will only lead to worse governments. They should shut up and let the adults figure it out.
Meet the new boss/Same as the old boss...
Now for double standards and general sexism against women
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The final one though, well. Main question is with that "Do men and women have the same reaction to see the chest of the opposite gender?" As a bisexual, I have a much stronger sexual reaction to female chests than male ones, though both inspire some reaction. Sexual reactions in public tend to be discomforting to some. If it's cultural inertia? We need to go slow, but make the shift. If it's more biological, than there's probably good reason why a woman should wear a top. Though I know in the past men wore swimsuits that covered their chest and thighs.
The final one though, well. Main question is with that "Do men and women have the same reaction to see the chest of the opposite gender?" As a bisexual, I have a much stronger sexual reaction to female chests than male ones, though both inspire some reaction. Sexual reactions in public tend to be discomforting to some. If it's cultural inertia? We need to go slow, but make the shift. If it's more biological, than there's probably good reason why a woman should wear a top. Though I know in the past men wore swimsuits that covered their chest and thighs.
It's entirely cultural. There's plenty of places in the world where women run around topless (and some of those places tend to see our fascination with breasts as really strange and/or childish).
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I'm pretty sure that only happens in places where fundamentalist Islam is the norm, not the exception.(http://i.imgur.com/9gap3.jpg)
^Because typically the Muslim girl doesn't have a choice in the matter, and stands a very real chance of being maimed or killed should she exhibit thoughts or actions that suggest otherwise. :-/ If you could be born a nun (as opposed to joining as a deliberate action taken by a willing participant), and the Catholic Church beheaded (or set fire to, or doused in acid, etc) nuns who attempted to leave the faith or even indicated nothing less than total submission to the will of the Church/their male family members, then maybe there might have been a relevant point somewhere in there.
For the record, I acknowledge that there are always exceptions, and I find the Catholic Church to be horrendous in it's own fashion so I'm explicitly NOT taking their side either.
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^Because typically the Muslim girl doesn't have a choice in the matter, and stands a very real chance of being maimed or killed should she exhibit thoughts or actions that suggest otherwise. :-/ If you could be born a nun (as opposed to joining as a deliberate action taken by a willing participant), and the Catholic Church beheaded (or set fire to, or doused in acid, etc) nuns who attempted to leave the faith or even indicated nothing less than total submission to the will of the Church/their male family members, then maybe there might have been a relevant point somewhere in there.
For the record, I acknowledge that there are always exceptions, and I find the Catholic Church to be horrendous in it's own fashion so I'm explicitly NOT taking their side either.
For teh record in Africa( except for Sudan) Pakistan and SE Asia aka where almost all Muslims live it's entirely a choice no legal requirementI'm pretty sure that only happens in places where fundamentalist Islam is the norm, not the exception.(http://i.imgur.com/9gap3.jpg)
^Because typically the Muslim girl doesn't have a choice in the matter, and stands a very real chance of being maimed or killed should she exhibit thoughts or actions that suggest otherwise. :-/ If you could be born a nun (as opposed to joining as a deliberate action taken by a willing participant), and the Catholic Church beheaded (or set fire to, or doused in acid, etc) nuns who attempted to leave the faith or even indicated nothing less than total submission to the will of the Church/their male family members, then maybe there might have been a relevant point somewhere in there.
For the record, I acknowledge that there are always exceptions, and I find the Catholic Church to be horrendous in it's own fashion so I'm explicitly NOT taking their side either.
I actually really like headscarves. I think they bring out the beauty of the face, and a lot of them have pretty patterns.
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The guy who drew this is a anti-science creationist.
Just sayin'.
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The guy who drew this is a anti-science creationist.
Just sayin'.
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The guy who drew this is a anti-science creationist.
Just sayin'.
Feel free to fall for propaganda by a creationist. I won't.
Feel free to fall for propaganda by a creationist. I won't.
Feel free to fall for propaganda by a creationist. I won't.
Feel free to fall for propaganda by a creationist. I won't.
Wait a minute. If a creationist made a poster that said that being gay was OK, would that suddenly mean that gay rights are as stupid as creationism?
Augzzilary: No, because that's common sense.
The guy who wrote that is a jihadist focused on converting people however.
Augzzilary: No, because that's common sense.
The guy who wrote that is a jihadist focused on converting people however.
(http://i.imgur.com/fgG7k.jpg)That was pretty much the point of it after all.
Content may be debatable, I just love that robot! :D
Augzzilary: No, because that's common sense.
The guy who wrote that is a jihadist focused on converting people however.
All of his (or her, i don't know) things I've seen are only trying to debunk stereotypes about Muslims.
Feel free to fall for propaganda by a creationist. I won't.Since Creationism has nothing to do with the subject at hand, what is your point?
Feel free to fall for propaganda by a creationist. I won't.Since Creationism has nothing to do with the subject at hand, what is your point?
Agni: If that particular cartoon is wrong, then address the actual cartoon. Say why it's wrong. Talking about the author's other views just makes it look like you're resorting to ad hominem because you have no argument.
Feel free to fall for propaganda by a creationist. I won't.Since Creationism has nothing to do with the subject at hand, what is your point?
My point is that you probably shouldn't trust the words of a creationist. Especially one biased in this particular matter.Agni: If that particular cartoon is wrong, then address the actual cartoon. Say why it's wrong. Talking about the author's other views just makes it look like you're resorting to ad hominem because you have no argument.
Well, the cartoon is wrong in assuming that Nuns aren't oppressed as well
Rinnie what you see her buddy is an Atheist fundie. Someone who thinks all the worlds problems are caused by religion while displaying similar characteristics to the people he says he's above. Basically this guy (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/44/BillMaherSept10.jpg/220px-BillMaherSept10.jpg)
Feel free to fall for propaganda by a creationist. I won't.Since Creationism has nothing to do with the subject at hand, what is your point?
My point is that you probably shouldn't trust the words of a creationist. Especially one biased in this particular matter.Agni: If that particular cartoon is wrong, then address the actual cartoon. Say why it's wrong. Talking about the author's other views just makes it look like you're resorting to ad hominem because you have no argument.
Well, the cartoon is wrong in assuming that Nuns aren't oppressed as well
You'll be waiting a long time then.
Ironbite-BITCH IS GONE!
It's worth noting that Nayzak, if it is him (and yes, Nayzak is male. I've spoken to him on the phone.), may be a creationist, but he's also pro-gay and doesn't believe in forced conversion.
Agni, I still want my fucking citation.
Here's some things Cait sent me that I wanted her to post here but she said no to.
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When did they start using US dollars in the Pokémon world?
Feel free to fall for propaganda by a creationist. I won't.Since Creationism has nothing to do with the subject at hand, what is your point?
My point is that you probably shouldn't trust the words of a creationist. Especially one biased in this particular matter.
Agni: If that particular cartoon is wrong, then address the actual cartoon. Say why it's wrong. Talking about the author's other views just makes it look like you're resorting to ad hominem because you have no argument.
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/9e8bdf0ae41b93694ca33f4d1c166d42/tumblr_mfjercM1Ud1r55d2io1_500.jpg)lol, his sign reads "MERRY XMAS" when he looks like the guy who gets pissed off when people "Take the 'Christ' out of 'Christmas'." And yes, I understand, the artist ran out of space.
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/9e8bdf0ae41b93694ca33f4d1c166d42/tumblr_mfjercM1Ud1r55d2io1_500.jpg)
That's a highly religious message, but understandable as well. I've heard stories like this when I was in catholic school. But it's a good message, essentially trying to say you have to take care of the least of us.
Then the king will say to those at his right hand, ‘Come, you that are blessed by my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world; for I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you welcomed me, I was naked and you gave me clothing, I was sick and you took care of me, I was in prison and you visited me.’ Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when was it that we saw you hungry and gave you food, or thirsty and gave you something to drink? And when was it that we saw you a stranger and welcomed you, or naked and gave you clothing? And when was it that we saw you sick or in prison and visited you?’ And the king will answer them, ‘Truly I tell you, just as you did it to one of the least of these who are members of my family, you did it to me.’ Then he will say to those at his left hand, ‘You that are accursed, depart from me into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels; for I was hungry and you gave me no food, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, I was a stranger and you did not welcome me, naked and you did not give me clothing, sick and in prison and you did not visit me.’ Then they also will answer, ‘Lord, when was it that we saw you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and did not take care of you?’ Then he will answer them, ‘Truly I tell you, just as you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to me.’
That's a highly religious message, but understandable as well. I've heard stories like this when I was in catholic school. But it's a good message, essentially trying to say you have to take care of the least of us.Quote from: Matthew 25:34-45Then the king will say to those at his right hand, ‘Come, you that are blessed by my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world; for I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you welcomed me, I was naked and you gave me clothing, I was sick and you took care of me, I was in prison and you visited me.’ Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when was it that we saw you hungry and gave you food, or thirsty and gave you something to drink? And when was it that we saw you a stranger and welcomed you, or naked and gave you clothing? And when was it that we saw you sick or in prison and visited you?’ And the king will answer them, ‘Truly I tell you, just as you did it to one of the least of these who are members of my family, you did it to me.’ Then he will say to those at his left hand, ‘You that are accursed, depart from me into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels; for I was hungry and you gave me no food, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, I was a stranger and you did not welcome me, naked and you did not give me clothing, sick and in prison and you did not visit me.’ Then they also will answer, ‘Lord, when was it that we saw you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and did not take care of you?’ Then he will answer them, ‘Truly I tell you, just as you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to me.’
It is verses like these that make me wonder how many fundies have ever read the Gospels?
It is verses like these that make me wonder how many fundies have ever read the Gospels?
Quote from: Matthew 25:34-45Then the king will say to those at his right hand, ‘Come, you that are blessed by my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world; for I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you welcomed me, I was naked and you gave me clothing, I was sick and you took care of me, I was in prison and you visited me.’ Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when was it that we saw you hungry and gave you food, or thirsty and gave you something to drink? And when was it that we saw you a stranger and welcomed you, or naked and gave you clothing? And when was it that we saw you sick or in prison and visited you?’ And the king will answer them, ‘Truly I tell you, just as you did it to one of the least of these who are members of my family, you did it to me.’ Then he will say to those at his left hand, ‘You that are accursed, depart from me into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels; for I was hungry and you gave me no food, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, I was a stranger and you did not welcome me, naked and you did not give me clothing, sick and in prison and you did not visit me.’ Then they also will answer, ‘Lord, when was it that we saw you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and did not take care of you?’ Then he will answer them, ‘Truly I tell you, just as you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to me.’
It is verses like these that make me wonder how many fundies have ever read the Gospels?
That's a highly religious message, but understandable as well. I've heard stories like this when I was in catholic school. But it's a good message, essentially trying to say you have to take care of the least of us.Quote from: Matthew 25:34-45Then the king will say to those at his right hand, ‘Come, you that are blessed by my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world; for I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you welcomed me, I was naked and you gave me clothing, I was sick and you took care of me, I was in prison and you visited me.’ Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when was it that we saw you hungry and gave you food, or thirsty and gave you something to drink? And when was it that we saw you a stranger and welcomed you, or naked and gave you clothing? And when was it that we saw you sick or in prison and visited you?’ And the king will answer them, ‘Truly I tell you, just as you did it to one of the least of these who are members of my family, you did it to me.’ Then he will say to those at his left hand, ‘You that are accursed, depart from me into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels; for I was hungry and you gave me no food, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, I was a stranger and you did not welcome me, naked and you did not give me clothing, sick and in prison and you did not visit me.’ Then they also will answer, ‘Lord, when was it that we saw you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and did not take care of you?’ Then he will answer them, ‘Truly I tell you, just as you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to me.’
It is verses like these that make me wonder how many fundies have ever read the Gospels?
Only the cherry-picked bits their pastors tell them to.
Ezekiel 16:49
New International Version (NIV)
49 “‘Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy.
That's a highly religious message, but understandable as well. I've heard stories like this when I was in catholic school. But it's a good message, essentially trying to say you have to take care of the least of us.Quote from: Matthew 25:34-45Then the king will say to those at his right hand, ‘Come, you that are blessed by my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world; for I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you welcomed me, I was naked and you gave me clothing, I was sick and you took care of me, I was in prison and you visited me.’ Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when was it that we saw you hungry and gave you food, or thirsty and gave you something to drink? And when was it that we saw you a stranger and welcomed you, or naked and gave you clothing? And when was it that we saw you sick or in prison and visited you?’ And the king will answer them, ‘Truly I tell you, just as you did it to one of the least of these who are members of my family, you did it to me.’ Then he will say to those at his left hand, ‘You that are accursed, depart from me into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels; for I was hungry and you gave me no food, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, I was a stranger and you did not welcome me, naked and you did not give me clothing, sick and in prison and you did not visit me.’ Then they also will answer, ‘Lord, when was it that we saw you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and did not take care of you?’ Then he will answer them, ‘Truly I tell you, just as you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to me.’
It is verses like these that make me wonder how many fundies have ever read the Gospels?
Only the cherry-picked bits their pastors tell them to.
No kidding! You know all that talk about Sodom and Gamorah being the root of all our troubles? Turns out they might be right;QuoteEzekiel 16:49
New International Version (NIV)
49 “‘Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy.
16:49 Behold, this was the iniquity of thy sister Sodom, pride, fulness of bread, and abundance of idleness was in her and in her daughters, neither did she strengthen the hand of the poor and needy.
I thought this might fit hereBut does the solution work?
(http://www.vancourier.com/opinion/editorial-cartoon/7797461.bin?size=620x400)
(http://www.vancourier.com/opinion/editorial-cartoon/7797461.bin?size=620x400)
I'm not getting anything from this one. Can someone explain?
Got to admit, I still don't get it. Even knowing full well what the project is, I look at the image and fail to see anything of ... I fail to see much of anything really.
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(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/14937_543045172373132_667923814_n.jpg)Stealing.
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My picks:* Which is the point of this comic, based on the controversy of Creationism and Evolution (the former being outdated/pseudoscience - which I don't understand why it is still being taught - while the latter is hard-worked, no-bullshit science which had refuted past "theories").
- Chemistry
- Neurology
- Physics
- Astronomy
- And lastly, Evolution*
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/01/01/article-2255798-16B79AFD000005DC-311_634x380.jpg)Awwww :'(
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/01/01/article-2255798-16B79AFD000005DC-311_634x380.jpg)
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(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/550431_520231931340608_256833474_n.jpg)Well, given how the TYT blasts Obama for giving in to Republicans in negotiations and keeping some Bush era stuff in effect ...
(http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/486101_496433547089389_409387160_n.jpg) Unsure where to put this one but I do like how it's reminding people that protection is good.
Dragon, that is BEAUTIFUL! Where'd you find it?Here: http://www.recombinantrecords.net/docs/2009-09-Part-of-Nature.html
Have you figured out the irony of not wanting to live in a police state while having armed guards everywhere yet?Ha, yes. But seriously, the NRA advocating a police state while also not and expecting to be taken seriously was like watching a snake eat itself.
(http://www.vancourier.com/opinion/editorial-cartoon/7829560.bin?size=620x400)
(http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/486101_496433547089389_409387160_n.jpg)I just thought about this:
Unsure where to put this one but I do like how it's reminding people that protection is good.
(http://www.montrealgazette.com/opinion/editorial-cartoons/7838821.bin?size=620x400)
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I love it when they bring that up because Hitler never said it and the closest thing to it was way off, anyways.
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/af64592338d99b4d4c9cee2ca5938ae3/tumblr_mh6nskaH7U1rroz62o1_500.gif)Strange thing in Europe last year the cold snap was global warming
On one hand that is such an old joke that I can't believe people are still making it.
On the other hand some people are still using that claim and think that it is a legimate argument against climate change...
Inadvertant climate modification was the first term used by scientists, after a warming trend was noticed in the 70s the term global warming was used in the scientific community. Later global warming was the first term to catch on with the public. Climate change isn't a good term to use do to the fact that the Earth's climate has changed naturally. The term to use when talking about human caused climate change is anthropogenic climate change.I don't the the average American can even spell that, never mind understand it.
Inadvertant climate modification was the first term used by scientists, after a warming trend was noticed in the 70s the term global warming was used in the scientific community. Later global warming was the first term to catch on with the public. Climate change isn't a good term to use do to the fact that the Earth's climate has changed naturally. The term to use when talking about human caused climate change is anthropogenic climate change.I don't the the average American can even spell that, never mind understand it.
Loads of stuff involving Obama's skeet shooting. Not sure where this belongs though ...
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No I think it's saying the NRA would be all over gun control if it was black people wanting guns (this is true the Black Pantehers wanted guns NRA said we want gun control)Kind of an ironic use of (subtle?) racism to promote gun control.
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I have to admit, I like Steve Bell's cartoons, only because they're so WTF??
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The way I interpreted it was Cameron being heckled by his own party (opposition to the bill is mostly coming from the far right of the party who seem not to realise public support for marriage equality is overwhelming). Storm in a cup because the issue is only an issue within the conservative party, and I believe fur cup because, as the giant cat in the second panel indicates, it is primarily caused by fat cats. The skeleton is, as far as I can tell from what it is reading meant to be a representative of the neo-conservative ideology in British politics? As for the Sloth with the olympic torch, I guess it is meant to be about how the olympics failed to boost our economy like the government hoped, although what it is doing here I don't know.(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2013/2/3/1359918429638/04022013-Martin-Rowson-ga-002.jpg)
To explain, it's about the Tory party, our current ruling party and conservative party, having a stupid row about gay marriage. The more traditionalist parts are against, but the party heads are for it.
No idea about the skeleton though.
The way I interpreted it was Cameron being heckled by his own party (opposition to the bill is mostly coming from the far right of the party who seem not to realise public support for marriage equality is overwhelming). Storm in a cup because the issue is only an issue within the conservative party, and I believe fur cup because, as the giant cat in the second panel indicates, it is primarily caused by fat cats. The skeleton is, as far as I can tell from what it is reading meant to be a representative of the neo-conservative ideology in British politics? As for the Sloth with the olympic torch, I guess it is meant to be about how the olympics failed to boost our economy like the government hoped, although what it is doing here I don't know.(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2013/2/3/1359918429638/04022013-Martin-Rowson-ga-002.jpg)
To explain, it's about the Tory party, our current ruling party and conservative party, having a stupid row about gay marriage. The more traditionalist parts are against, but the party heads are for it.
No idea about the skeleton though.
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I love that Mexico is in place of Hell. I find it hilarious for some reason. Also that Heaven and Mexico are located in the relative-but-ultimately-meaningless "up" and "down in relation to the ecliptic.
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I love that Mexico is in place of Hell. I find it hilarious for some reason. Also that Heaven and Mexico are located in the relative-but-ultimately-meaningless "up" and "down in relation to the ecliptic.
It's a very clever way to add in a "Dumb Creationists/conservatives think the world revolves around America" joke.
I though that was a nail, as in "a want for a nail."The way I interpreted it was Cameron being heckled by his own party (opposition to the bill is mostly coming from the far right of the party who seem not to realise public support for marriage equality is overwhelming). Storm in a cup because the issue is only an issue within the conservative party, and I believe fur cup because, as the giant cat in the second panel indicates, it is primarily caused by fat cats. The skeleton is, as far as I can tell from what it is reading meant to be a representative of the neo-conservative ideology in British politics? As for the Sloth with the olympic torch, I guess it is meant to be about how the olympics failed to boost our economy like the government hoped, although what it is doing here I don't know.(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2013/2/3/1359918429638/04022013-Martin-Rowson-ga-002.jpg)
To explain, it's about the Tory party, our current ruling party and conservative party, having a stupid row about gay marriage. The more traditionalist parts are against, but the party heads are for it.
No idea about the skeleton though.
where are her lower legs
where are her lower legs
Just by looking at it, I'm pretty sure one leg is stretched backwards, and the other one has a bent knee.
Fun fact his foreign policy moved to the left after seeing a movie
Day after tomorrow (the nuke nott flood version)
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It's missing one thing, he made it ok to demonize the poor.
I don't give a shit if a politician is likeable or is someone you'd want to sit down and have a beer with. It's not some kind of high school popularity contest. I want someone intelligent who understands the issues and knows when to hold fast and when to compromise.
I think it has to do with empathy. I do think Romney had zero empathy but i think Reagan did tooEven Ronnie got it into his skull that gay folks were actual human beings when his friend Rock Hudson was dying. So in terms of empathy, point goes to Reagan on that.
As an outsider, I love the political cartoons of the animals that represent the parties.
It is like those animals were chosen by political cartoonists. The elephant always looks fat, old and angry, while the donkey always looks confused and ineffectual.
...because single-dip recession is just so lame and American.
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just for that, Jebus...
"What are you gonna do, bleed on me?"
just for that, Jebus...
"What are you gonna do, bleed on me?"
My blood is black...
That was either reference to Soul eater or a serious health problem.
I suggest going to the doctor. And you might want to notify all your sexual partners in case that is contagious.
It's been too long since we've had a Steve Bell cartoon.
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This one's about Netanyahu and Ruper Murdoch so it should make sense to the American readers here.
It's been too long since we've had a Steve Bell cartoon.
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This one's about Netanyahu and Ruper Murdoch so it should make sense to the American readers here.
It's been too long since we've had a Steve Bell cartoon.
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This one's about Netanyahu and Ruper Murdoch so it should make sense to the American readers here.
...Nope.
Something about Murdoch not knowing what antisemitism is and bashing Netanyahu's hand puppet? I can't tell if this comic doesn't make much sense or if I live under a rock.
I'm not ready for this much confusion in the morning. Not before my coffee.Not even after my coffee...
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Do you have any idea how insulting that is? Palpatine never orchestrated a massive, systematic cover-up of sex abuse cases. I think you owe the Emperor an apology.
Oh I thought it was that genetic trait. The Fugate family had it:
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The reason they had it was because of inbreeding, so the recessive gene for blue skin came out.
Oh I thought it was that genetic trait. The Fugate family had it:
(http://a.abcnews.com/images/Health/ht_fugate_family_blue_people_ll_120217_wg.jpg)
The reason they had it was because of inbreeding, so the recessive gene for blue skin came out.
This freaks me out because I had a Sargent in the army who had silvery-blue skin. The rumor was it was caused by anemia.
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OK, let's see......because single-dip recession is just so lame and American.
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Again I ask... WTF?
Why they had to do a three headed dinosaur, not sure.
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What's so face-palm worthy about that?
What's so face-palm worthy about that?
I'd need my dad handy to adequately explain it in economic terms.
What's so face-palm worthy about that?
I'd need my dad handy to adequately explain it in economic terms.
In other words, you don't know.
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This one just brings tears to my eyes, it is so spot on.
Single women and mothers are about the most dumped on segment of the population. Damned if they do, damned if they don't. Way to go, fundies, kick 'em when they're down and don't stop kicking 'em, ever, cause jeezuz and holey fuckedup babble. Cheaper to bitch about it than actually do something pro-active like sponsor free contraceptives or offer meaningful prenatal care and adoption programs, or job training and neonatal support...cuz government will do that, and then the fundies still have their bitching points on taxes.
Well if I may offer a devil's advocate statement.
<deviladvocate>
"She could try to marry someone with a decent pay. Is that not an option that's on the table?"
</deviladvocate>
I know there is some counter argument to that.
Well if I may offer a devil's advocate statement.
<deviladvocate>
"She could try to marry someone with a decent pay. Is that not an option that's on the table?"
</deviladvocate>
I know there is some counter argument to that.
And then, when she does marry someone with a good, steady source of income...
"You're just a gold-digging slut!"
You just can't win with these people.
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This one just brings tears to my eyes, it is so spot on.
Single women and mothers are about the most dumped on segment of the population. Damned if they do, damned if they don't. Way to go, fundies, kick 'em when they're down and don't stop kicking 'em, ever, cause jeezuz and holey fuckedup babble. Cheaper to bitch about it than actually do something pro-active like sponsor free contraceptives or offer meaningful prenatal care and adoption programs, or job training and neonatal support...cuz government will do that, and then the fundies still have their bitching points on taxes.
Yup. Fundies complain about birth control, they complain about abortion, and if she opts to have the kid, they complain about having to help support it. Because it's not about babies. It's really about punishing women for daring to have sex.
I'm pretty sure most anti-choicers want to force men to take care of unwanted children as well.
@Shepard: so the ideal trans person is Ash Ketchum?
@thejebusfire: perfectly illustrates why I don't take pro-life activists seriously anymore.
Also Im pretty sure the guy gets hand outs and btw no days off that's illegal
That's quite a propaganda success: someone willing not only to endure exploitation but brag about it.That's because here in America, we're special kind of stupid.
You know, because of the cultural impact of the phrase "Catch 22," I kinda want to read the book of the same name. Of course, you COULD argue that those who are saying stupid shit should just be ignored as much as possible.
Well, I see nothing wrong with 6, 5 and 1. That is someone can say those staments and not be lying.
The second comic though makes several good points. I mean it brings up several BAD points that people use.
R.U.Sirius: Good point.
DD: Another good point, I agree with that. Although the sentences in themselves aren't all bad.
Also about number 10. This is sligthy off but there is one similar claim that I absolutely hate. Some racist actually refer to it as "slaveship-tar-argument." When justifying why everyone should be donating money to Africa people say it is because our ancestor have mistreated and slaved africans, except that since Finns didn't participate in slavery (enslaving africans that is.) in fact our country didn't exist. Instead their claim is based on the fact that as part of Sweden our ancestors shipped most of the tar used in european ships. Therefore the ships that took slaves from africa had 'Finnish' tar and THAT is why we should help africa.
a) Shouldn't we help them because there are people who need help, and helping them is a nice thing. Christian thing even if you are into that.
b) I accept consequences for my own anctions and will try to make right if I did some wrongs. I feel shame for the wrongs done by my country and agree that Finland as a country should make right the wrongs she has done. I will even accept the argument that I bear some responsibility to compensate for crimes my ancestors have done. But this is taking thigns too far.
c) In general I hate the argument that all white people are somehow responsible for crimes done by other white people. I mean if someone claims that because one member of ethnic group A is a drug dealer they all must be then people would agree that this is racit.
If someone would claim that since members of ethnic group A are statisically more likely to go to jail, then they should all be suspected as criminals untill proven otherwise, wouldn't you agree that this is racist.
I just think that this claim is similar.
This although the thing is oftentimes the white people who came after still benefit also whites who came after slavery still perpetuated Jim CrowR.U.Sirius: Good point.
DD: Another good point, I agree with that. Although the sentences in themselves aren't all bad.
Also about number 10. This is sligthy off but there is one similar claim that I absolutely hate. Some racist actually refer to it as "slaveship-tar-argument." When justifying why everyone should be donating money to Africa people say it is because our ancestor have mistreated and slaved africans, except that since Finns didn't participate in slavery (enslaving africans that is.) in fact our country didn't exist. Instead their claim is based on the fact that as part of Sweden our ancestors shipped most of the tar used in european ships. Therefore the ships that took slaves from africa had 'Finnish' tar and THAT is why we should help africa.
a) Shouldn't we help them because there are people who need help, and helping them is a nice thing. Christian thing even if you are into that.
b) I accept consequences for my own anctions and will try to make right if I did some wrongs. I feel shame for the wrongs done by my country and agree that Finland as a country should make right the wrongs she has done. I will even accept the argument that I bear some responsibility to compensate for crimes my ancestors have done. But this is taking thigns too far.
c) In general I hate the argument that all white people are somehow responsible for crimes done by other white people. I mean if someone claims that because one member of ethnic group A is a drug dealer they all must be then people would agree that this is racit.
If someone would claim that since members of ethnic group A are statisically more likely to go to jail, then they should all be suspected as criminals untill proven otherwise, wouldn't you agree that this is racist.
I just think that this claim is similar.
I don't hold anyone alive today responsible for atrocities that happened in the long past. But I agree that we should help people because they need help. If they're still suffering from the injustices of the past, we should try to correct that, not because we had anything to do with it, but because it's the right thing to do.
I put it under spoilers because of its size.Law eagles are the greatest thing ever.(click to show/hide)
There's one MLP reference in a single panel. He's also a Sonic the Hedgehog fan and... a Linux nerd? Whatever the fedora's supposed to represent. I think he was more meant to be a generic nerd.
I dislike that the friendzone asshole is portrayed as a Brony. Nerds in general; be they Whovians, Trekkies, Marvel Zombies, DC Nationals, or Bronies; have the tendency to fall in to the "nice guy" asshole trap. I just think bronies get more tarred with one big brush than any of those other groups.
Does this count?
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@B-Man
...Seriously? You're going there?
@B-Man
...Seriously? You're going there?
I'm not saying it doesn't have good points. I'm just saying it's pushing the "I'm white so I'm a racist prick while pretending not to be." a bit too hard. When I first read it, I said "WTF is this?" to myself.
Notice how much emphasis it puts on WHITE lies. WHITE WHITE WHITE WHITE WHITE WHITE WHITE.
It's just a tad preachy for my tastes.
...the word "White" is said all of three times. Four if you count "Non-White".
I think maybe you're a little sensitive :P
...the word "White" is said all of three times. Four if you count "Non-White".
I think maybe you're a little sensitive :P
It's partly the mention of "White." The attitude of the people in the comic really gets to me, too. There's also quite a bit of snark in the Hispanics' and blacks' faces. I don't think it's cool. I'm not saying it doesn't have good points. I'm just saying that it has a shitty way of conveying them, IMO.
...the word "White" is said all of three times. Four if you count "Non-White".
I think maybe you're a little sensitive :P
It's partly the mention of "White." The attitude of the people in the comic really gets to me, too. There's also quite a bit of snark in the Hispanics' and blacks' faces. I don't think it's cool. I'm not saying it doesn't have good points. I'm just saying that it has a shitty way of conveying them, IMO.
... well, how should it be conveyed, according to you?
I mean, if you're a person of color (yeah, yeah, inb4 "soshul justice" bashing) who gets tired of explaining why these excuses of wrong, you'd be tempted to make those expressions too.
Oh, and the person who made this comic, Barry Deutsch, is almost certainly white himself.
...the word "White" is said all of three times. Four if you count "Non-White".
I think maybe you're a little sensitive :P
It's partly the mention of "White." The attitude of the people in the comic really gets to me, too. There's also quite a bit of snark in the Hispanics' and blacks' faces. I don't think it's cool. I'm not saying it doesn't have good points. I'm just saying that it has a shitty way of conveying them, IMO.
... well, how should it be conveyed, according to you?
I mean, if you're a person of color (yeah, yeah, inb4 "soshul justice" bashing) who gets tired of explaining why these excuses of wrong, you'd be tempted to make those expressions too.
Oh, and the person who made this comic, Barry Deutsch, is almost certainly white himself.
Point being? I don't care what his race is. It doesn't make me happier about the way the message is being conveyed.
As far as the first question goes: I dunno. Perhaps there's no way to say the shit this comic is saying delicately. However, if the author was able to discuss his thinking and respond to criticisms, then maybe I'd feel a bit better.
...the word "White" is said all of three times. Four if you count "Non-White".
I think maybe you're a little sensitive :P
It's partly the mention of "White." The attitude of the people in the comic really gets to me, too. There's also quite a bit of snark in the Hispanics' and blacks' faces. I don't think it's cool. I'm not saying it doesn't have good points. I'm just saying that it has a shitty way of conveying them, IMO.
... well, how should it be conveyed, according to you?
I mean, if you're a person of color (yeah, yeah, inb4 "soshul justice" bashing) who gets tired of explaining why these excuses of wrong, you'd be tempted to make those expressions too.
Oh, and the person who made this comic, Barry Deutsch, is almost certainly white himself.
Point being? I don't care what his race is. It doesn't make me happier about the way the message is being conveyed.
As far as the first question goes: I dunno. Perhaps there's no way to say the shit this comic is saying delicately. However, if the author was able to discuss his thinking and respond to criticisms, then maybe I'd feel a bit better.
There are plenty of people who already respond to the kinds of arguments he addresses in the comics. He's a cartoonist. His intention was mocking them, not writing a thesis paper to take each one down.
I would also like to point out that he was not mocking you or I for being white. He was mocking some white people for using cliched excuses.
This is like a theist seeing a comic that mocks common creationist arguments and thinking it's a mean, condescending attack against him specifically. Just because you're a theist doesn't mean you're a creationist or put forth dumb arguments, but the dumb creationist arguments are the things being mocked, not theism.
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I thought this was "Best Political Cartoons," not "Bash On Whitey."
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I thought this was "Best Political Cartoons," not "Bash On Whitey."
I have conservative relatives who have made all of these arguments (except the liberal one).
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I thought this was "Best Political Cartoons," not "Bash On Whitey."
I have conservative relatives who have made all of these arguments (except the liberal one).
I honestly can't see anything wrong with asserting that white people are also the target of racism and that it should be included in the discussion of racism.
Is there any way in this cartoon to be a white person and not have to feel like a terrible human being for it?
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So sequestration is like a ticking time bomb? Does Mickey represent the idea that it's part of an evil world domination part by Disney?
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So sequestration is like a ticking time bomb? Does Mickey represent the idea that it's part of an evil world domination part by Disney?
Mickey Mouse is used as a pejorative term to describe a small time operation or an inadequate/half-assed job.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mickey_Mouse#Pejorative_use_of_Mickey.27s_name
So I assume in this case, it means dysfunctional politics have set the time bomb to sequestration.
However, in parts of Australia it can mean excellent or very good.
I thought this was "Best Political Cartoons," not "Bash On Whitey."
I have conservative relatives who have made all of these arguments (except the liberal one).
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QuoteHowever, in parts of Australia it can mean excellent or very good.
Lol, Aussies!
"Together we fall" feels like the natural punchline to that.
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So it goes. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastleigh_by-election,_2013)
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Wait, I thought this was the "Best Political Cartoons" thread, not the "Weird Furry Fetishes" thread :P
Fun fact: "Kardashians" are now an acceptable unit of time measurement. It is a unit of time exactly 72 days in length, the same length as Kim Kardashian's marriage.*
Also, my spell check recognizes and corrects the name Kardashian. It didn't learn this from my typing it, as I've never typed it before. That's sad.
*http://bryanforbes.github.com/kardashian-calc/ (http://bryanforbes.github.com/kardashian-calc/)
Fun fact: "Kardashians" are now an acceptable unit of time measurement. It is a unit of time exactly 72 days in length, the same length as Kim Kardashian's marriage.*
Also, my spell check recognizes and corrects the name Kardashian. It didn't learn this from my typing it, as I've never typed it before. That's sad.
*http://bryanforbes.github.com/kardashian-calc/ (http://bryanforbes.github.com/kardashian-calc/)
Every time I see that woman's name, it reminds me of Star Trek. Can't you just see Sulu going "Captain, we've detected a Kardashian war cruiser!"
Fun fact: "Kardashians" are now an acceptable unit of time measurement. It is a unit of time exactly 72 days in length, the same length as Kim Kardashian's marriage.*
Also, my spell check recognizes and corrects the name Kardashian. It didn't learn this from my typing it, as I've never typed it before. That's sad.
*http://bryanforbes.github.com/kardashian-calc/ (http://bryanforbes.github.com/kardashian-calc/)
Every time I see that woman's name, it reminds me of Star Trek. Can't you just see Sulu going "Captain, we've detected a Kardashian war cruiser!"
You should change your name to "RinellaIsAwesome."
You should change your name to "RinellaIsAwesome."
Seconded!
You should change your name to "RinellaIsAwesome."
Seconded!
Thirded!
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The crow looks stoned off his ass.
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The crow looks stoned off his ass.
I didn't realize it until you pointed it out, that's too funny.
I don't get it, did Scalia say something racist?
I don't get it, did Scalia say something racist?
He's going to try to revoke the Voting Rights Act since Shelby county wants to be racist and he thinks that equal rights are entitlements.
I don't get it, did Scalia say something racist?
Fun fact: "Kardashians" are now an acceptable unit of time measurement. It is a unit of time exactly 72 days in length, the same length as Kim Kardashian's marriage.*
Also, my spell check recognizes and corrects the name Kardashian. It didn't learn this from my typing it, as I've never typed it before. That's sad.
*http://bryanforbes.github.com/kardashian-calc/ (http://bryanforbes.github.com/kardashian-calc/)
Every time I see that woman's name, it reminds me of Star Trek. Can't you just see Sulu going "Captain, we've detected a Kardashian war cruiser!"
(http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l64/Copy-Ninja_Kakashi/CardassianKardashian.jpg)
Who in their right mind would think that the dental floss costume would look good on anyone!? :|
Oh, that's right, pervy straight men in the comic book industry :P
I don't get it, did Scalia say something racist?
He's going to try to revoke the Voting Rights Act since Shelby county wants to be racist and he thinks that equal rights are entitlements.
The thing is that they feel picked on because the that section of the VRA only pertains to the Southern States, the simple fix is to extend the VRA to all states, but we can't have that, because it's level headed solution. And then Scalia had go and say this crap about equal rights being racial entitlements, he's too funny, given that there was a time when people of his background were treated like shit.
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/fa6de96281aabbd365496984fa269d21/tumblr_mj3kwiiGqe1r55d2io1_500.jpg)
Forgive me if this has been posted before.
Not really a cartoon but:
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/90b1b6d251bce63eefb98e6040392778/tumblr_mjtyf2tIB11qjxb8to1_500.jpg)
Not really a cartoon but:
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/90b1b6d251bce63eefb98e6040392778/tumblr_mjtyf2tIB11qjxb8to1_500.jpg)
Particularly by the standards of being fucking pope. Not exactly a position for revolutionaries, all the important decisions where made ages ago and your job is quite literally to say god still supports them.
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(http://media.timesfreepress.com/img/photos/2013/03/19/130320_The_Crusade_t618.jpg?ba5b5b122dd3d37cc13d83e92a6a0ec0d5bfa32a)
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My opinion on Vietnam is not so much that we shouldn't have gone in, it's that we were on the wrong side. If we had backed Ho Chi Minh from the start (ie, when he was fighting the French), we would have gotten a pro-US democratic Vietnam, and Ho Chi Minh would have spent his last years on the US lecture circuit.
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/228803_436903709727465_1038589185_n.jpg)
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/486023_585080634838570_1921205454_n.jpg)
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/d97b1847f71afd21194e5593d97d734c/tumblr_mkahxapyic1rmzz37o1_500.jpg)
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/d97b1847f71afd21194e5593d97d734c/tumblr_mkahxapyic1rmzz37o1_500.jpg)
I like how in the last panel he's like, "Come at me, bro."
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/d97b1847f71afd21194e5593d97d734c/tumblr_mkahxapyic1rmzz37o1_500.jpg)
I like how in the last panel he's like, "Come at me, bro."
Why can't more political cartoonists, regardless of stance, be like Bennett in terms of subtlety?
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/8972_436028149814105_1017727945_n.jpg)
Oh that is fucking priceless. Love Hitchcock and love this.(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/8972_436028149814105_1017727945_n.jpg)
I want to give that artist a cookie.
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/8972_436028149814105_1017727945_n.jpg)Subtle, yet to the point. I like it.
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(http://25.media.tumblr.com/abf5db9ce5ae584b0436e14809d9ec7b/tumblr_mkwfsgzjR21qaqu94o3_1280.jpg)
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/abf5db9ce5ae584b0436e14809d9ec7b/tumblr_mkwfsgzjR21qaqu94o3_1280.jpg)
Congress really does need a pay decrease. Generally not a good idea to give a group control of its own pay.
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/abf5db9ce5ae584b0436e14809d9ec7b/tumblr_mkwfsgzjR21qaqu94o3_1280.jpg)
Congress really does need a pay decrease. Generally not a good idea to give a group control of its own pay.
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/8972_436028149814105_1017727945_n.jpg)
Ooo, a Steve Bell cartoon that I actually get.
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/8972_436028149814105_1017727945_n.jpg)
Everybody who saw this picture and immediately in their head heard the 'REE-REE-REE-REE!!' of screeching violins, please raise your hand.
Ooo, a Steve Bell cartoon that I actually get.
I don't get it.....
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/8972_436028149814105_1017727945_n.jpg)
Everybody who saw this picture and immediately in their head heard the 'REE-REE-REE-REE!!' of screeching violins, please raise your hand.
*raises hand*
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/8972_436028149814105_1017727945_n.jpg)
Everybody who saw this picture and immediately in their head heard the 'REE-REE-REE-REE!!' of screeching violins, please raise your hand.
*raises hand*
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/8972_436028149814105_1017727945_n.jpg)
Everybody who saw this picture and immediately in their head heard the 'REE-REE-REE-REE!!' of screeching violins, please raise your hand.
*raises hand*
[insert blank quote here](https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/8972_436028149814105_1017727945_n.jpg)
Everybody who saw this picture and immediately in their head heard the 'REE-REE-REE-REE!!' of screeching violins, please raise your hand.
*raises hand*
(http://d3j5vwomefv46c.cloudfront.net/photos/large/757583202.jpg)
(Martin Rowson/Guardian (http://www.guardian.co.uk/theguardian/series/guardiancommentcartoon))Spectacular
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Fucking love this...
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/521772_505308436181944_1986936220_n.jpg)
Fucking love this...
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Fucking love this...
I love the rats. At first I was like "They're horrified at Jones and are trying to get away" then I noticed that it appears some of the word balloons are coming from THEM!
It would've been funnier if Alex was saying all that & the rats were like "AUGH! GET AWAY FROM IT!" showing that smelly rodents have standards.
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(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/540471_10151398197316275_1753021233_n.png)
Somehow I think I understood that.(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/521772_505308436181944_1986936220_n.jpg)
Fucking love this...
Somehow this drawing looks more like Alex Jones than Alex Jones looks like Alex Jones.
Somehow I think I understood that.(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/521772_505308436181944_1986936220_n.jpg)
Fucking love this...
Somehow this drawing looks more like Alex Jones than Alex Jones looks like Alex Jones.
Yeah well...your mother* 8)Somehow I think I understood that.(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/521772_505308436181944_1986936220_n.jpg)
Fucking love this...
Somehow this drawing looks more like Alex Jones than Alex Jones looks like Alex Jones.
Somehow your face. :P
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(http://img.allvoices.com/thumbs/image/609/609/96050397-nra-stands-its-ground.jpg)
(http://img.allvoices.com/thumbs/image/609/609/96050397-nra-stands-its-ground.jpg)
Reminds me of an article I read in Rolling Stone recently about a man in Florida who tried to invoke "stand your ground" because some black teens wouldn't turn down their music. An argument ensued and he pulled a gun and fired at them as they tore off in their vehicle, fleeing for their lives. The excuse he gave police was "they refused to follow my orders. What was I supposed to do?" and later spun a story about them pulling guns on HIM. I don't remember if he actually got off or not.
(http://img.allvoices.com/thumbs/image/609/609/96050397-nra-stands-its-ground.jpg)
Reminds me of an article I read in Rolling Stone recently about a man in Florida who tried to invoke "stand your ground" because some black teens wouldn't turn down their music. An argument ensued and he pulled a gun and fired at them as they tore off in their vehicle, fleeing for their lives. The excuse he gave police was "they refused to follow my orders. What was I supposed to do?" and later spun a story about them pulling guns on HIM. I don't remember if he actually got off or not.
...what movie?Innocence of Muslims
(http://i937.photobucket.com/albums/ad220/mrtraffic97/431927_644187218941262_1244492608_n_zpse15b9aa4.png)
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Haha. Oh that's fucking good.
Aren't most anti-vaxers religious conservatives who would hate hippies like those parents?I think a large number of them are ultraliberal natural medicine advocates.
Aren't most anti-vaxers religious conservatives who would hate hippies like those parents?I think a large number of them are ultraliberal natural medicine advocates.
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Aren't most anti-vaxers religious conservatives who would hate hippies like those parents?I think a large number of them are ultraliberal natural medicine advocates.
You'd be AMAZED at the overlap when it comes to natural/holistic health advocates. People who disagree fundamentally on everything else agree from the bottom of their righteous hearts that all your health problems can be solved by -insert fad food here-.
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This is why anti-vaccers will forever infuriate me beyond fucking reason. They kill children. Not even going to bother being nice, they fucking kill children.
I actually find that they're usually in the ultraliberal conspiracy theorist category.Aren't most anti-vaxers religious conservatives who would hate hippies like those parents?I think a large number of them are ultraliberal natural medicine advocates.
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Great now I'm going to anthropomorphize drones...
The cute... is setting... in.... HNNNNNG!
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Great now I'm going to anthropomorphize drones...
The cute... is setting... in.... HNNNNNG!
I don't hate you....
Last quarter in my Ethics class, we had a discussion on drones. During that, I mentioned that there was news of US soldiers who took their bomb drone out fishing to make it feel part of their unit. I mentioned to the professor that we're humanizing these drones.
Last quarter in my Ethics class, we had a discussion on drones. During that, I mentioned that there was news of US soldiers who took their bomb drone out fishing to make it feel part of their unit. I mentioned to the professor that we're humanizing these drones.
Hell, people yell at computers, scream at microwaves, and curse at brooms that fall down at inconvenient times. Humanizing drones makes a bit more sense considering the fact that they are more animated than most things.
By the way I'm not a psychologist.
Last quarter in my Ethics class, we had a discussion on drones. During that, I mentioned that there was news of US soldiers who took their bomb drone out fishing to make it feel part of their unit. I mentioned to the professor that we're humanizing these drones.US military has drones and robots that were created for the sole purpose of making them do dangerous tasks that would otherwise force actual soldies/etc. risk their lives. Now that the robots are in use there are numerous cases where the soldies have risked their lives willingly to save a damaged robot. There are cases where soldiers have demanded that instead of getting a new robot to replace the damaged/destroyed one the old one must be repaired because they have grown attached to it.
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Great now I'm going to anthropomorphize drones...
The cute... is setting... in.... HNNNNNG!
I'm trying to google the news that soldiers took their drone out fishing, but I keep getting all these serious stuff about the ethics of drones.
Drones, Boston Bomber Boy, Tasmanian Devils, Bears.....why do some ferocious & dangerous stuff have to be cute?
Drones, Boston Bomber Boy, Tasmanian Devils, Bears.....why do some ferocious & dangerous stuff have to be cute?
Sorry to be contrary, but I don't think Tasmanian Devils are actually dangerous, they just have bad PR. Or maybe I'm just speaking relatively. Compared to a Taipan or a crocodile or a pissed-off mother Kangaroo, it's a fucking doddle.
Even a Koala will gore your face off if you annoy it enough and it's not asleep or tripping balls.
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Great now I'm going to anthropomorphize drones...
The cute... is setting... in.... HNNNNNG!
Little surveillance UAV's are cute, but predators, global hawks, raptors...are orca like and orca sized. Kinda big to be cute.
Little surveillance UAV's are cute, but predators, global hawks, raptors...are orca like and orca sized. Kinda big to be cute.
People find orcas cute, too, despite their size...
On the topic of drones, when do you think we'll get to the point of people complaining robots "took our jobs"?
On the topic of drones, when do you think we'll get to the point of people complaining robots "took our jobs"?
You mean, "Dey Turk er jerbs - Durka Dur"? ;D
On the topic of drones, when do you think we'll get to the point of people complaining robots "took our jobs"?I swear I saw this while surfing around this morning, of course I can't find it now...
(http://i.imgur.com/YIurMtG.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/7lwp1mK.jpg)
On the topic of drones, when do you think we'll get to the point of people complaining robots "took our jobs"?
The fuck is up with that dudes lips in the above comic?
The fuck is up with that dudes lips in the above comic?
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/d9ee3d203fc9e3da9ae914a405c99370/tumblr_mm2ot6CT9C1qbxkjao1_500.jpg)
Around my parts most people probably don't know about the factory collapse and don't care. If they did know, I'm sure they'd be cheering because all those job stealers are dead.Don't forget they are Muslims
Even the freaking Pope called them out (http://www.salon.com/2013/05/01/pope_condemns_slave_labor_conditions_in_bangladesh_partner/) on their working conditions. Actually he also said that such "slave labor" is "against God."(http://25.media.tumblr.com/d9ee3d203fc9e3da9ae914a405c99370/tumblr_mm2ot6CT9C1qbxkjao1_500.jpg)
Spot on. And to think that people thought the world had learned a lesson from the Triangle Shirt Waist factory fire <bitter snark>.
Even the freaking Pope called them out (http://www.salon.com/2013/05/01/pope_condemns_slave_labor_conditions_in_bangladesh_partner/) on their working conditions. Actually he also said that such "slave labor" is "against God."(http://25.media.tumblr.com/d9ee3d203fc9e3da9ae914a405c99370/tumblr_mm2ot6CT9C1qbxkjao1_500.jpg)
Spot on. And to think that people thought the world had learned a lesson from the Triangle Shirt Waist factory fire <bitter snark>.
KA-ZING!
In fact, homophobia, itself is un-African. Before the invaders, colonials & missionaries came along, homosexuality wasn't an issue. They saw homosexuality the same way as pre-colonial Native Americans.
Still others use oral sex between men as an initiation rite to purge men of the corrupting feminine influence of their mothers (which also happens in a few Pacific Islander tribes).
Still others use oral sex between men as an initiation rite to purge men of the corrupting feminine influence of their mothers (which also happens in a few Pacific Islander tribes).
Wait, what?
(http://i.imgur.com/x71feSu.jpg)
I was told it wasn't addictive. I take it I was told wrong?
So it doesn't necessarily create a physical addiction, but it does create a mental addiction easily?
So it doesn't necessarily create a physical addiction, but it does create a mental addiction easily?
Pretty much. Some people just get addicted to the calmness and detachment it creates.
KA-ZING!
In fact, homophobia, itself is un-African. Before the invaders, colonials & missionaries came along, homosexuality wasn't an issue. They saw homosexuality the same way as pre-colonial Native Americans.
Please don't fall into the 'tribal societies were more accepting of gays' thing. SOME tribes were. Others were just as harsh as the colonialists (the Nuer people, for example). Still others use oral sex between men as an initiation rite to purge men of the corrupting feminine influence of their mothers (which also happens in a few Pacific Islander tribes). Just like everyone else, different tribes have different customs.
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/8e0a1e4682868927c3c0e0968b95cbe7/tumblr_mm8jbsEq9n1r55d2io1_1280.jpg)
That's a very effective use of a single label. With that, the rest of the allegory falls into place on its own.
Um... what exactly is wrong with fedora's? Is this some new misogynist fashion statement?
Huh, okay. I'll go look, It can't be that ba.... WOW!
sucks too, I mean, I wear a fedora because I like the way it looks, now I'm going to be associated with.... that?
Actually there are black people who support the Klan, and Jews who generally agree with the Nazis. It just doesn't happen with the volume that the working class supports the Republicans.
Much like the sweatervest.Huh, okay. I'll go look, It can't be that ba.... WOW!
sucks too, I mean, I wear a fedora because I like the way it looks, now I'm going to be associated with.... that?
You're not the only one on here, a few others on here like fedoras and the fucknuggets have ruined it.
Actually there are black people who support the Klan, and Jews who generally agree with the Nazis. It just doesn't happen with the volume that the working class supports the Republicans.You mean the episode showing Garterbelt as a member of the KKK was actually based on fact?
I think it's time to reclaim the fedora as Indiana Jones's hat.
By the way:
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(http://i.imgur.com/2bQleUP.png)Sigh seems a little Islamophobic
(http://i.imgur.com/2bQleUP.png)Sigh seems a little Islamophobic
@nikki they are up to 12 years now
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/946292_10151687901322150_350280934_n.jpg)
Sigh seems a little Islamophobic
@nikki they are up to 12 years now
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/946292_10151687901322150_350280934_n.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/2bQleUP.png)Sigh seems a little Islamophobic
@nikki they are up to 12 years now
Islamophobic? The couples involved all seem perfectly happy- it's the individuals in the second panel that have an issue (although the fact that it's an angry woman in the first scenario and a panicked man in the second is interesting...)
(http://i.imgur.com/AHb8A8R.jpg)
Those burkas are rather form-fitting.
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/215357_652035128156471_747042726_n.jpg)
They're actually niqabs- burkhas cover the face too. Though niqabs are loose-fitting too.
If niqabs looked like that I think women around the world would wear them.
Just because something covers every inch of your skin doesn't mean it can't be provocative.
(Though I think Lady Gaga's proven that with some of her more interesting costumes)
trigger
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(http://i.imgur.com/BZZTQ.jpg)
Close.
Ironbite-but you forgot HEART!
Close.
Ironbite-but you forgot HEART!
Yeah, but What Kind of Lame Power Is Heart, Anyway? (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/WhatKindOfLamePowerIsHeartAnyway)
....I hate you all.
But should there be reforms, AND THERE WILL BE, EVENTUALLY, this little pansy boy will be in his proper place...in helpless submission to the MIGHTY JUSTICE....after being sliced up a bit!
(http://media.timesfreepress.com/img/photos/2013/05/10/130511_The_Signal_t618.jpg?ba5b5b122dd3d37cc13d83e92a6a0ec0d5bfa32a)
But should there be reforms, AND THERE WILL BE, EVENTUALLY, this little pansy boy will be in his proper place...in helpless submission to the MIGHTY JUSTICE....after being sliced up a bit!
Leadership actually is working on it, at least in the Air Force. It's going to take a while, though. It's definitely a culture change, and it's hard to make it happen overnight. The top brass can mandate all the punishment and correction they want, but until the mid-level leadership starts reporting and enforcing those rules, things won't change.
But there is work being done. Last December, there was a mass clean-up from the Pentagon on down of lewd and racy material. No more pin-ups in the office. No more "morale images" on the computers. No more pictures that objectify women in the workplace. That's actually a big step in making it less acceptable.
We have mandatory training on how to respond to sexual harassment. The focus used to be on teaching women to avoid being harassed. Now it's just as much on men (and women) confronting others to stop it.
There's still a ways to go. The recent cases show that a lot of our leadership isn't taking the problem seriously. But the change is started. Officers are being trained up now to report these cases. Eventually, they'll be the ones in charge of squadrons, groups, and wings. They'll be the ones who deal with this crap. And the Airmen are learning to say, "Hey, man, cut that shit out."
So, yeah. I think the leadership is making the right move. It's not going to happen overnight, as much as we'd like it to. And it's a shame it's taken this long to deal with the issue. But at least the process is started.
Nothing is more unmanly, pathetic, ridiculous, pitiful, useless, stupid & weak than "Hyper-Masculine Machismo".
Yup, that's a common protestant thing. The key is that, in Martin Luther's time, "good deeds was a code for obeying the pope and giving to the church. Seeing as it was all politicized and corrupt, Luther instead said salvation came from faith alone. In other words, it originated from a rejection of corruption, but has now become an excuse.
If that's meant to be Mitt Romney, that cartoon is quite unfair to his dad, George Romney, who was a good man and I won't hear a bad word said about him.I'm guessing the 1% badge is supposed to mark that cigar guy represents the wealthiest 1%.
If that's meant to be Mitt Romney, that cartoon is quite unfair to his dad, George Romney, who was a good man and I won't hear a bad word said about him.
(http://i.imgur.com/AUsjTXE.jpg)
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/947197_10151455864686094_1140119359_n.jpg)
That brings up a good point, though. What will the next wedge issue be?
Personally, I'm thinking transgender issues, considering they're shadowing gay issues now just like gay issues were previously shadowing racial issues.
Of course, abortion isn't going away any time soon either.
That brings up a good point, though. What will the next wedge issue be?
Personally, I'm thinking transgender issues, considering they're shadowing gay issues now just like gay issues were previously shadowing racial issues.
Of course, abortion isn't going away any time soon either.
That brings up a good point, though. What will the next wedge issue be?
Personally, I'm thinking transgender issues, considering they're shadowing gay issues now just like gay issues were previously shadowing racial issues.
Of course, abortion isn't going away any time soon either.
The thing with trans issues is even the LGB part of the spectrum barely know what being trans is unless they're shown the idea some way, some how.
Where I live, you're either a really deep drag queen or you're ultra gay, in fact, if you're trans. It sucks, but it's true.
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/942071_458033190954970_1597192270_n.png)
Some stuff I found on Chuckle A Duck:But what about lesbians?
(http://chuckleaduck.com/comics/2013-05-17CAD428MoreForMe.jpg)
Some stuff I found on Chuckle A Duck:But what about lesbians?
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(http://i.imgur.com/eGGbX8R.jpg)
(http://www.jewishjournal.com/images/thegodblog_images/cartoon-701630.jpg)
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/ea2ebe84d8559ded5dca63a5c876bec1/tumblr_mmy0uro58n1qj171uo1_1280.png)
Some stuff I found on Chuckle A Duck:But what about lesbians?(click to show/hide)
Oooooo I wanna post that 'toon on a radfemscum tumblr ;D
Good artist; you can tell it's a "she wolf".
(http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/258/7/d/wolf_in_sheep__s_clothing_by_humon-d2yrljn.jpg)
Oooooo I wanna post that 'toon on a radfemscum tumblr ;D
Good artist; you can tell it's a "she wolf".
DO IT. And screencaps the reactions for our amusement. ;)
(http://04varvara.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/01f-political-cartoon-29-07.jpg?w=1000)
RadFems are a blight & make the Feminist Movement look bad!There's no need to posit a mole. Sadly, it doesn't take an infiltration for people to go nuts over a fundamentally good idea.
Hyper-Fanatics in ANYTHING ruin everything! I'd imagine that many of them are CONTELPRO plants.
A "wolf-in-sheep's-clothing" implies an impostor or mole. I'll bet many of these wolves are actually Stepfords like Ann Coulter or Janet Brewer.
No it doesn't. There weren't any moles in the Gun Rights movement.RadFems are a blight & make the Feminist Movement look bad!There's no need to posit a mole. Sadly, it doesn't take an infiltration for people to go nuts over a fundamentally good idea.
Hyper-Fanatics in ANYTHING ruin everything! I'd imagine that many of them are CONTELPRO plants.
A "wolf-in-sheep's-clothing" implies an impostor or mole. I'll bet many of these wolves are actually Stepfords like Ann Coulter or Janet Brewer.
*snip*It's sad that ignorance is so popular among these morons...
TEALIBAN GUY SEZ, "*DERP!*"
Yes, it truly is.*snip*It's sad that ignorance is so popular among these morons...
TEALIBAN GUY SEZ, "*DERP!*"
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/11919_10151426568628736_536477597_n.jpg)Excellent!
*snip*It's sad that ignorance is so popular among these morons...
TEALIBAN GUY SEZ, "*DERP!*"
My response to the bastards: may you live in interesting times and attract the attention of important people.
(http://thedailyobjectivist.files.wordpress.com/2012/11/artistic-anti-objectivism.jpg?w=479)Was that cartoon done by an Objectivist? It certainly looks like it.
Fuck blind obedience!
I feel like for the libertarian cartoon the "denial-ist' should be a caricature of Lou Dobbs....I want one more so I can use the stoner as a free space and have a bingo card.
Otherwise, spot on.
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(http://thedailyobjectivist.files.wordpress.com/2012/11/artistic-anti-objectivism.jpg?w=479)Was that cartoon done by an Objectivist? It certainly looks like it.
Fuck blind obedience!
That's not to invalidate the message, of course.
Wait, Diamanda Hagan visits this board?(http://thedailyobjectivist.files.wordpress.com/2012/11/artistic-anti-objectivism.jpg?w=479)Was that cartoon done by an Objectivist? It certainly looks like it.
Fuck blind obedience!
That's not to invalidate the message, of course.
That from the 'Action Philosophers' comic bio of Ayn Rand.
*snip*Yes, she does. You're a fan, Mr. Warper?
Wait, Diamanda Hagan visits this board?
It's "Ms. Warper", and yes, I am.*snip*Yes, she does. You're a fan, Mr. Warper?
Wait, Diamanda Hagan visits this board?
I'm also a fan. Bit of a surprise to find out she visits this site.It's "Ms. Warper", and yes, I am.*snip*Yes, she does. You're a fan, Mr. Warper?
Wait, Diamanda Hagan visits this board?
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/971265_10201343003044095_960175731_n.jpg)To continue with this theme:
Hiya Warper and Dragon! I'm glad you have fun watching my vids!I'm glad I discovered you.
As am I.Hiya Warper and Dragon! I'm glad you have fun watching my vids!I'm glad I discovered you.
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I'm also a fan. Bit of a surprise to find out she visits this site.It's "Ms. Warper", and yes, I am.*snip*Yes, she does. You're a fan, Mr. Warper?
Wait, Diamanda Hagan visits this board?
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/971265_10201343003044095_960175731_n.jpg)To continue with this theme:
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It's missing the stoner guy that's been there for years, and will still be there after you graduation.I also noticed a few others missing, like the Frat Bro, the Class Clown, the Meathead, the Airhead, and the Prep.
(http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/333/448/bf0.jpg)Now there's a sad truth if I ever saw one.
Yes, it truly is.(http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/333/448/bf0.jpg)Now there's a sad truth if I ever saw one.
First it was Lupus, now it's herpes...what can you say, FOX News is just a big fat disease factory.
(http://www.answersingenesis.org/assets/images/articles/2006/05/cartoonist_carnival.gif)Great cartoon!
Thanks. Gussying up creationism by calling it "intelligent design" is like calling a hooker an "escort".
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(http://i.imgur.com/xz1m4ul.jpg)Bully!
I'm not sure that's pro-Obama, there.It doesn't have to be. It raises a question of how much our government is controlled by business interests.
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lov7x8WF561qizl0so1_500.gif)Yeah, I wish more people would understand that the Confederacy was all about racism.
(http://media.townhall.com/Townhall/Car/b/ca082610dBP20100824054517.jpg)And this my friends is why I wish they would get rid of abstinence only education.
(http://bdrcblog.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/immigration_history_color.jpg)This is why I think immigration reform is long overdue.
(http://i894.photobucket.com/albums/ac143/ThisIsMyTime_2010/080511/RacistCartoon.jpg)Nothing's ever good enough for the GOP hardliners, is it?
Of course not. They don't want a compromise, they just want to have it their way.(http://i894.photobucket.com/albums/ac143/ThisIsMyTime_2010/080511/RacistCartoon.jpg)Nothing's ever good enough for the GOP hardliners, is it?
Don't you miss the days when the democrats and the republicans could actually work together?Of course not. They don't want a compromise, they just want to have it their way.(http://i894.photobucket.com/albums/ac143/ThisIsMyTime_2010/080511/RacistCartoon.jpg)Nothing's ever good enough for the GOP hardliners, is it?
You mean like when they would attack each other with walking sticks on the Senate floor?
(http://media.townhall.com/Townhall/Car/b/ca082610dBP20100824054517.jpg)That cartoon is somehow... lacking.
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(http://media.townhall.com/Townhall/Car/b/ca082610dBP20100824054517.jpg)That cartoon is somehow... lacking.
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/3400ca94230195348cca8884e47158ab/tumblr_mnihlulAnq1rheanso1_500.png)Go home, everybody. Booker wins.
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As effective as Israel is at utilizing its human resources in times of conflict, the Israeli army may be on the verge of fielding the first fully robotic fighting force.
Israel's Ministry of Defense recently issued a call for the creation of an "Advance Guard," a robotic vanguard that will lead the charge in future battles in order to minimize human casualties.
The bi-monthly journal IsraelDefense reported that numerous Israeli defense contractors are working hard to meet the challenge.
Israel already makes extensive use of robotics for the purpose of surveillance. Israeli unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs) are some of the most sophisticated and effective in the world.
But this new project is about creating robots that will actually do the fighting, or at least handle the initial armed push against entrenched enemies.
"The basic idea is for robots to function as a strike force, leading the way in the first stage of engagement with the enemy, which usually results in heavy casualties," explained IsraelDefense.
And Israel is not just talking about remote-controlled weapons systems here. The vision of Advance Guard is on par with any number of science fiction-based descriptions of futuristic warfare.
One of the chief requirements the Israeli military has given to the firms working on Advance Guard is that the robotic warriors (which will NOT look like the image above) be able to autonomously select and engage targets and to coordinate attacks with one another, without human input.
Dammit, Israel! If you're responsible for the inevitable Robotic Apocalypse... >:(
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Oh. I don't really want any Isralei soldiers deployed period
Oh. I don't really want any Isralei soldiers deployed period
Look on the bright side - this could lead to a future where wars are fought entirely by robots.
Oh. I don't really want any Isralei soldiers deployed period
Look on the bright side - this could lead to a future where wars are fought entirely by robots.
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Honestly, is anybody buying their "for power only" claptrap?
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I disagree that this is a substantial problem, or rather that the emphasis is wrong. Honesty and serious rational inquiry have been lost and that has a serious impact on public policy and therefore my life. I don't care about people being nice to each other in the US Senate. Shout away, but be honest and don't be shallow morons.
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I disagree that this is a substantial problem, or rather that the emphasis is wrong. Honesty and serious rational inquiry have been lost and that has a serious impact on public policy and therefore my life. I don't care about people being nice to each other in the US Senate. Shout away, but be honest and don't be shallow morons.
I dunno, I'd kinda like to see Senator Wyden from my home state of Oregon punch out Senator Inhofe.
...Who said anything about the US Senate?
We're talking about social interaction.
I actually think it might help if Congress had a brawl every once in a while.I could run with this as my platform, I'd need to run somewhere else though, my local folks are pretty well entrenched.
I actually think it might help if Congress had a brawl every once in a while.I could run with this as my platform, I'd need to run somewhere else though, my local folks are pretty well entrenched.
I actually think it might help if Congress had a brawl every once in a while.I could run with this as my platform, I'd need to run somewhere else though, my local folks are pretty well entrenched.
Not really. All you need are tanks/lighthorseman.
Not really. All you need are tanks/lighthorseman.
Did you have to say that? Now he's gonna come back.
Not really. All you need are tanks/lighthorseman.
Random Guy....making creationism awesome.I think the credit should go to Tim Kreider.
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Random Guy....making creationism awesome.That's because Norse mythology is awesome, you don't see Jesus being a marvel comic book hero, do you??
That picture of Ymir, suckling a cow and looking PISSED OFF about it is too funny.
That's because Norse mythology is awesome, you don't see Jesus being a marvel comic book hero, do you??Just because:
That's because Norse mythology is awesome, you don't see Jesus being a marvel comic book hero, do you??Just because:(click to show/hide)
Ok, so not marvel, but the same artist can be blamed for plenty of marvel's atrocities. Or was that marvel... I really don't want it to have been.
Do we really need to label "China" on Xi Jinping's suit?
Or do the readers seriously need that hint so they would know which foreign leader is being presented?
Do we really need to label "China" on Xi Jinping's suit?
Or do the readers seriously need that hint so they would know which foreign leader is being presented?
Considering most Americans probably don't even know who he is...
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So much awesome.
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I like the simple use of character visual clues; narrow, tall, erect head = narrow minded dickhead. Now, replace the straight lipped mouth with a round, puckery one = narrow minded dickhead asshole.I've got to admit, I didn't pick up on that visual when I read it.
As if we needed another reason why the stand you ground law was bullshit.Forget it, Wulf, it's Florida.
As if we needed another reason why the stand you ground law was bullshit.Forget it, Wulf, it's Florida.
Modified this one from being a fundie to being anti-fundie. And now modified another.
I'm not. I'm faulting them for Apartheid 2: Electric Boogaloo.Modified this one from being a fundie to being anti-fundie. And now modified another.
You can't fault the Israelis for their armour. Those guys know how to build a fucking tank.
Wow, that's an awesome one. Breaks it dow nice and simple so anyone could understand the point.And yet the fundies will still ignore it.
Starring Barack Obama as Ashley J. Williams
The Republican Party as Deadites
Some Jackass as Himself
Lol, of course he does. He's playing a character played by Bruce Campbell (it's a parody of the B-horror trilogy of Evil Dead/Evil Dead 2/Army of Darkness)Starring Barack Obama as Ashley J. Williams
The Republican Party as Deadites
Some Jackass as Himself
I just noticed the GOP zombies are all Reagan clones. Very fitting. And Obama looks COOL!
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(http://www.mattbors.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/1006.png)The headphones strike me as somewhat of a race comment, because otherwise, why would he have them, and why those specific ones?
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I don't see scandals as a bad thing. I would in fact be more suspicious if a president was squeaky clean. The only time something looks perfectly clean is when you're putting on a show.(http://www.mattbors.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/1006.png)
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As hated as Nixon is for his scandals, the only President since Nixon to not have any scandals is Jimmy Carter.
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I don't see scandals as a bad thing. I would in fact be more suspicious if a president was squeaky clean. The only time something looks perfectly clean is when you're putting on a show.
He was likely the exception to the rule, to be honest. However, literally any other politician, I would be really suspicious if they had no scandals. At least with JFK, we had enough scandals to make tons of books about, so we knew when he did something good, it wasn't made up, because he'd screw that up, too. I'd rather have scandals, because it shows me that our leader isn't perfect. If our leader looks perfect (and Carter did not, due to being bad at it), something's fishy.I don't see scandals as a bad thing. I would in fact be more suspicious if a president was squeaky clean. The only time something looks perfectly clean is when you're putting on a show.
You're pretty wrong on that score. Jimmy Carter didn't have any scandals because he was just an honest guy who didn't try to game the system.
He was also a shitty politician who refused to play the game at all and consequently had a hard time getting anything done, but he's since devoted his life to humanitarian efforts here and abroad. Simply put, Carter is a great human being but a horrible leader.
it really doesnt matter we still shouldnt be having this type of data collectionI agree. While his politics may not match with ours, his actions are something we can celebrate. Basically, it doesn't matter why you do something, it matters that you did it. If a scientists cured cancer for the fame, power and money, I'd still support him, because he did a heroic act, even if it was for evil reasons.
not the best analogy since I've seen many a sci fi distopya where someone invents a cure then enslaves us allEnslaving people is an evil action, not an evil motive. If they invented it but got shot to death before getting to the enslaving, or even tried and were killed before they had a chance to do anything, I'd still respect them.
QuoteAs hated as Nixon is for his scandals, the only President since Nixon to not have any scandals is Jimmy Carter.I don't see scandals as a bad thing. I would in fact be more suspicious if a president was squeaky clean. The only time something looks perfectly clean is when you're putting on a show.
I don't see scandals as a bad thing. I would in fact be more suspicious if a president was squeaky clean. The only time something looks perfectly clean is when you're putting on a show.
You're pretty wrong on that score. Jimmy Carter didn't have any scandals because he was just an honest guy who didn't try to game the system.
He was also a shitty politician who refused to play the game at all and consequently had a hard time getting anything done, but he's since devoted his life to humanitarian efforts here and abroad. Simply put, Carter is a great human being but a horrible leader.
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/e93062da102cb37ba1e79a14e665a910/tumblr_mpa3cseOXf1rroz62o1_500.gif)He likely would have been lynched.
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if zimmerman was black then he would have been arrested in 5 minutesHell the police tried to pin it all on Trayvon anyway bey looking into his background and doing Trayvons toxicology test without even checking Zimmerman at all. You don't need to reverse it, the police already tried to arrest the black guy.
That's the point. If Zimmerman was the black guy, they'd have wanted his blood. Admittedly, I don't know if we'd would too, or if suddenly we would be defending him.if zimmerman was black then he would have been arrested in 5 minutesHell the police tried to pin it all on Trayvon anyway bey looking into his background and doing Trayvons toxicology test without even checking Zimmerman at all. You don't need to reverse it, the police already tried to arrest the black guy.
Carter was a pretty effective politician at the state level and in his first Presidential run. He dispatched Ford fairly comprehensively, in 1976. Ronald Reagan- or rather, the PR staff that invented Ronald Reagan- was actually losing to him for most of the 1980 election. It took some fairly substantial treason for the Republicans to win that election, repeating their efforts from 1968.
Of course, Carter was one of the most serious and effective policymakers of the century. He ended the Egypt-Israeli conflicts forever, started the beat-down of the Soviets in Afghanistan with none of the severe errors Reagan added to the program, he got the American embassy staff released in Iran, emphasised human rights in foreign policy- a major change in US foreign policy that would have made a significant difference had it not been immediately reversed- and how!- by Reagan. On the domestic front, too, he was quite an effective policy maker; he led the world's first serious response to the world's most important issue, climate change (again, immediately reversed). He's probably the best president of this half of the 20th century, maybe second behind LBJ. Compared with the prior and subsequent presidents, he looks like Lincoln.
This isn't curing cancer though, it's quite literally a violation of national security. While it's all stuff people should have known already(seriously, learn a little about electronic communications, you'll talk to real people a hell of a lot more afterward), it's resulted in a fairly serious overhaul in how terrorists communicate, as they found out what the US was doing to listen in. It's entirely fair to say that Snowden has personally increased the likely hood of a serious terrorist attack going unnoticed until it's too late. Which is right around the exact opposite of curing cancer. If we want to keep this running we should probably create a seperate thread.it really doesnt matter we still shouldnt be having this type of data collectionI agree. While his politics may not match with ours, his actions are something we can celebrate. Basically, it doesn't matter why you do something, it matters that you did it. If a scientists cured cancer for the fame, power and money, I'd still support him, because he did a heroic act, even if it was for evil reasons.
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/e93062da102cb37ba1e79a14e665a910/tumblr_mpa3cseOXf1rroz62o1_500.gif)I'm already starting to think Zimmerman wasn't a racist as much as just paranoid about those "Crazy Gangsta Teens" walking around.
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I understand it's likely purely a political move, and it may have increased danger to us, but, well, to use a stock quote, "Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." I'd rather risk my life a little more than have the NSA spying on me, even if chances are having to monitor my family's internet usage is akin to being assigned to Siberia by Stalin. I have no problem with Obama over this, I have a problem with the NSA, precisely because he didn't start this.This isn't curing cancer though, it's quite literally a violation of national security. While it's all stuff people should have known already(seriously, learn a little about electronic communications, you'll talk to real people a hell of a lot more afterward), it's resulted in a fairly serious overhaul in how terrorists communicate, as they found out what the US was doing to listen in. It's entirely fair to say that Snowden has personally increased the likely hood of a serious terrorist attack going unnoticed until it's too late. Which is right around the exact opposite of curing cancer. If we want to keep this running we should probably create a seperate thread.it really doesnt matter we still shouldnt be having this type of data collectionI agree. While his politics may not match with ours, his actions are something we can celebrate. Basically, it doesn't matter why you do something, it matters that you did it. If a scientists cured cancer for the fame, power and money, I'd still support him, because he did a heroic act, even if it was for evil reasons.
Read over the linked article if you want to think it's anything more than a political move. I'm still mildly baffled as to why people blame Obama for it, the NSA's been doing it since before most people knew who he was.
I would also rather have someone like Obama in office than some fundie lunatic!
About this whole surveillance scandal of doom. This might provide a different angle:
http://www.addictinginfo.org/2013/07/06/have-we-all-been-fooled-by-edward-snowden/
Let's just say, Snowden is not "One Of Us". In fact, he sounds like a total Tea-brained asshat!
Not to mention the 'us vs. them' mentality gets us nowhere.I would also rather have someone like Obama in office than some fundie lunatic!
About this whole surveillance scandal of doom. This might provide a different angle:
http://www.addictinginfo.org/2013/07/06/have-we-all-been-fooled-by-edward-snowden/
Let's just say, Snowden is not "One Of Us". In fact, he sounds like a total Tea-brained asshat!
Why should it make a difference what his motivations were? I don't care if he was a total scumbag. Just because you don't like the messenger doesn't mean the message is any less important.
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/e93062da102cb37ba1e79a14e665a910/tumblr_mpa3cseOXf1rroz62o1_500.gif)I'm already starting to think Zimmerman wasn't a racist as much as just paranoid about those "Crazy Gangsta Teens" walking around.
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(http://25.media.tumblr.com/e93062da102cb37ba1e79a14e665a910/tumblr_mpa3cseOXf1rroz62o1_500.gif)I'm already starting to think Zimmerman wasn't a racist as much as just paranoid about those "Crazy Gangsta Teens" walking around.
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Same here. I never really assumed he was a racist. In fact, I tend to assume that barring evidence otherwise, people aren't consciously racist.
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/e93062da102cb37ba1e79a14e665a910/tumblr_mpa3cseOXf1rroz62o1_500.gif)I'm already starting to think Zimmerman wasn't a racist as much as just paranoid about those "Crazy Gangsta Teens" walking around.
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Same here. I never really assumed he was a racist. In fact, I tend to assume that barring evidence otherwise, people aren't consciously racist.
I assumed the commentary from the simple race-switch is less on Zimmerman's racism and instead the reaction of people to the incident. Namely, a lot of people rushing to Zimmerman's defense and accusing Martin of being a thug and a thief, despite evidence to the contrary.
If the race was switched, there'd be a hell of a lot more people calling for Black!Zimmerman's head.
If the race was switched, there'd be a hell of a lot more people calling for Black!Zimmerman's head.
I would also rather have someone like Obama in office than some fundie lunatic!
About this whole surveillance scandal of doom. This might provide a different angle:
http://www.addictinginfo.org/2013/07/06/have-we-all-been-fooled-by-edward-snowden/
Let's just say, Snowden is not "One Of Us". In fact, he sounds like a total Tea-brained asshat!
I would also rather have someone like Obama in office than some fundie lunatic!
About this whole surveillance scandal of doom. This might provide a different angle:
http://www.addictinginfo.org/2013/07/06/have-we-all-been-fooled-by-edward-snowden/
Let's just say, Snowden is not "One Of Us". In fact, he sounds like a total Tea-brained asshat!
I would rather have Obama than a fundie loon, but I'd rather have someone who actually abides by the Bill of Rights all the time over Obama. The Obama DOJ has continued defending the Bush-era warrantless NSA wiretapping program, with a suit brought by lawyers representing Gitmo detainees having been bounced out of the courts since they couldn't prove their communications were intercepted because the courts ruled that the information on what communications the NSA intercepted were classified. (http://jurist.org/paperchase/2011/02/federal-judge-dismisses-government-surveillance-suit-for-lack-of-standing.php) So it didn't shock me much to find out that the NSA under Obama has found a brand new way to illegally spy on American citizens.
It doesn't matter if Snowden is a democrat disappointed in Obama, a republican who thought it was OK when his party did it, or a nutter who believes Obama is one of the lizard people. What matters is that the information he leaked was true and that what our government is doing isn't kosher.
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Not sure if it goes here, it's not exactly political, I guess, but it has a good point.
Shame it doesn't mention the part where you then make a social mistake, get mocked, and get firmly convinced your anxieties were right in the first place.Well it was a parody, mocking the idea that people with anxieties should get over them just by uh... well they never really explain how you should overcome them, just that you should "be social" as if that's magic.
Shame it doesn't mention the part where you then make a social mistake, get mocked, and get firmly convinced your anxieties were right in the first place.Well it was a parody, mocking the idea that people with anxieties should get over them just by uh... well they never really explain how you should overcome them, just that you should "be social" as if that's magic.
Shame it doesn't mention the part where you then make a social mistake, get mocked, and get firmly convinced your anxieties were right in the first place.Well it was a parody, mocking the idea that people with anxieties should get over them just by uh... well they never really explain how you should overcome them, just that you should "be social" as if that's magic.
Yeaaaaaaaah...if it weren't for a combination of medication and actual, REAL therapy from an actual fuckin therapist, I'd probably -still- be an anxiety-ridden wreck, even today. If Big Pharma is helping me NOT panic at the idea of talking to people, even my own family, then...erm...hooray for Big Pharma?
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Not sure if it goes here, it's not exactly political, I guess, but it has a good point.
The story of my life, right there folks.
Well, I'm not saying that social anxiety isn't a thing, but I have to say, as someone who is naturally hypersocial, it can be really hard to understand. It took me a long time to get that people who acted that way didn't do it because they wanted to. I do now, but I still don't understand it. I guess it's one of those things where you always feel that the one on the other side of the fence is weird.(https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/q71/s720x720/945699_550837158304873_909726509_n.jpg)
Not sure if it goes here, it's not exactly political, I guess, but it has a good point.
The story of my life, right there folks.
I think I have had this exact conversation with my dad.
Basically. I'm cool with going out... usually once a week, provided its with some close friends, or people who are on their way to becoming such. I do not like large crowds, especially if they're rambunctious (such as sports fans), and especially if I don't know most of them. Hell, I don't really like going out with friends and finding out they invited people I've never met before. It's indescribably uncomfortable, and I recede into myself pretty much as soon as I'm excluded from conversation. Certainly not the type of personality that does well in Hollywood/LA, which is a big part of why I've been wanting to leave for so long.Well, I'm not saying that social anxiety isn't a thing, but I have to say, as someone who is naturally hypersocial, it can be really hard to understand. It took me a long time to get that people who acted that way didn't do it because they wanted to. I do now, but I still don't understand it. I guess it's one of those things where you always feel that the one on the other side of the fence is weird.(https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/q71/s720x720/945699_550837158304873_909726509_n.jpg)
Not sure if it goes here, it's not exactly political, I guess, but it has a good point.
The story of my life, right there folks.
I think I have had this exact conversation with my dad.
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(https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/q71/s720x720/945699_550837158304873_909726509_n.jpg)There is a point to what's said though, the only way you're going to become any more comfortable in social situtations is experience and exposure. The longer you go without any the deeper the anxieties will engrain themselves. I say this as someone who was quite literally beaten on a regular basis as a kid and still has a dislike of crowds, I have plenty of reasons to be asocial, but after actually bothering to deal with people I don't have the urge to run and hide anymore.
Not sure if it goes here, it's not exactly political, I guess, but it has a good point.
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/q71/s720x720/945699_550837158304873_909726509_n.jpg)There is a point to what's said though, the only way you're going to become any more comfortable in social situtations is experience and exposure. The longer you go without any the deeper the anxieties will engrain themselves. I say this as someone who was quite literally beaten on a regular basis as a kid and still has a dislike of crowds, I have plenty of reasons to be asocial, but after actually bothering to deal with people I don't have the urge to run and hide anymore.
Not sure if it goes here, it's not exactly political, I guess, but it has a good point.
Doesn't mean I want to head out and dive into the bar scene, but it does mean if I'm invited out somewhere I'm perfectly comfortable going. Hell, I may even invite other folks out. Just don't dive in the deepend and scare yourself out of the pool.
Well, I'm not saying that social anxiety isn't a thing, but I have to say, as someone who is naturally hypersocial, it can be really hard to understand. It took me a long time to get that people who acted that way didn't do it because they wanted to. I do now, but I still don't understand it. I guess it's one of those things where you always feel that the one on the other side of the fence is weird.(https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/q71/s720x720/945699_550837158304873_909726509_n.jpg)
Not sure if it goes here, it's not exactly political, I guess, but it has a good point.
The story of my life, right there folks.
I think I have had this exact conversation with my dad.
This is one of the really hard parts about neuroses. They're very hard to understand from the outside. Same with things like clinical depression or PTSD. If you don't have it, it's very difficult to put yourself in the other person's shoes. And for those who do have it, they get a lot of advice from people who have no idea what they're talking about.
That said, I agree that the spying thing is spooky. However, I read from an article on Blue State Journal (a progressive news source) that, like police searches, that these spy things require using warrants.
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m1eap2paKE1qk27mfo1_r1_500.jpg)Who are you, mysterious pointing finger man?
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/14866cc83ddb8efaeca9ca8ae1c9826d/tumblr_mpze1mz3pp1qbxkjao1_500.jpg)But those sorts of abortion providers don't have taxes in their fees, right?
He is no man! He's a talking arm. Duh. :P(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m1eap2paKE1qk27mfo1_r1_500.jpg)Who are you, mysterious pointing finger man?
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/14866cc83ddb8efaeca9ca8ae1c9826d/tumblr_mpze1mz3pp1qbxkjao1_500.jpg)But those sorts of abortion providers don't have taxes in their fees, right?
People who have been to space and especially the moon don't nice things like boarders etc
I can't see the picture in question, but I'm assuming it's the one of Buzz Aldrin and various world leaders looking at Earth from the moon. In which case, my correction probably makes more sense.People who have been to space, and especially the moon, don't notice things like boarders, etc.
I have no idea what that sentence means.
...I don't get it.Again, assuming I'm getting the gist from Kefkaownsall's sentence, Aldrin's line in the comic is a quote. The astronaut was marveling at how petty and insignificant our political squabbles seem when you're 250k/mi away from Earth, and how he would love to drag our world leaders to the moon and tell them to "Look at that, you son of a bitch".
“You develop an instant global consciousness, a people orientation, an intense dissatisfaction with the state of the world, and a compulsion to do something about it. From out there on the moon, international politics look so petty. You want to grab a politician by the scruff of the neck and drag him a quarter of a million miles out and say, ‘Look at that, you son of a bitch.”
It's a quote from Edgar Mitchell, who was part of the crew of Apollo 14 (and by inference, he's the astronaut in the picture).Damn it. So close.Quote“You develop an instant global consciousness, a people orientation, an intense dissatisfaction with the state of the world, and a compulsion to do something about it. From out there on the moon, international politics look so petty. You want to grab a politician by the scruff of the neck and drag him a quarter of a million miles out and say, ‘Look at that, you son of a bitch.”
Guy's completely off his rocker in a lot of ways, but he got that one right.
It's a quote from Edgar Mitchell, who was part of the crew of Apollo 14 (and by inference, he's the astronaut in the picture).Quote“You develop an instant global consciousness, a people orientation, an intense dissatisfaction with the state of the world, and a compulsion to do something about it. From out there on the moon, international politics look so petty. You want to grab a politician by the scruff of the neck and drag him a quarter of a million miles out and say, ‘Look at that, you son of a bitch.”
Guy's completely off his rocker in a lot of ways, but he got that one right.
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Mocking vaccines should be in "Worst Political Cartoons".
Yeah, it's beautifully sarcastic against anti-vaccers. Is it an actual vintage cartoon? If it's new, the artist is amazingly accurate in doing that retro style.
Oooh, subtle! :o(click to show/hide)
Yeah, I love Pacific Rim but uh...?Part of the promotion for Pacific Rim was a web page that let people create their own mecha (http://apps.warnerbros.com/pacificrim/designer/us/?language=en-us) (I haven't seen the movie, so don't ruin it for me please). Naturally, with the internet being what it is, comedy ensued (http://4thstringjaegers.tumblr.com/).
Yes I know that but I don't see how it was a political cartoon.
Yes I know that but I don't see how it was a political cartoon.
The political part is that Carlos Danger is the alias Anthony Weiner used in his latest sexting scandal.
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How did the builders not notice him?
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How did the builders not notice him?
That's the point...
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How did the builders not notice him?
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I found a few that might qualify:(click to show/hide)(click to show/hide)(click to show/hide)(click to show/hide)(click to show/hide)(click to show/hide)
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Two things:
One, Please shrink the really huge cartoons.
Two, You seem to have accidentally put a "Worst" here on the "Best" list & a "Best" on the "Worst" list.
I found a few that might qualify:(click to show/hide)(click to show/hide)(click to show/hide)(click to show/hide)(click to show/hide)(click to show/hide)
Two things:
One, Please shrink the really huge cartoons.
Two, You seem to have accidentally put a "Worst" here on the "Best" list & a "Best" on the "Worst" list.
If you mean the second-to-last, it's satire. Notice the "The future, according to Fox News" line.
I don't think I've ever heard of it.
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Props to the cartoonist for actually knowing about the Philippine–American War, arguably the most forgotten war in American history.
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If someone said that last one to me, I'd just reply "Chicken pox". Not because I believe it's worse, but because I love giving the answer that was so obviously wrong to rhetorical questions.[snip]
Cue a bunch of anti-vaxxers whinging about polio and smallpox already being on the decline prior to the introduction of vaccines, and the usual cries of "Well, my friend's kid totally caught the measles after getting his shots, so obviously this single data point disproves everything". Oh, and don't forget to stir a little bit of "What's worse, chicken pox or autism?" into the shit stew.
Someday, I'll have to invite you to come join me in arguing with anti-vaxxers. We can do our own version of Good Cop/Bad Cop, except we'll be Science Cop/Troll Cop.
Someday, I'll have to invite you to come join me in arguing with anti-vaxxers. We can do our own version of Good Cop/Bad Cop, except we'll be Science Cop/Troll Cop.That'd be fun.
Someday, I'll have to invite you to come join me in arguing with anti-vaxxers. We can do our own version of Good Cop/Bad Cop, except we'll be Science Cop/Troll Cop.That'd be fun.
AV: Do you want children to die!?!??!?!?!
Me: Hmmmm. Doesn't sound too bad to me.
If someone said that last one to me, I'd just reply "Chicken pox". Not because I believe it's worse, but because I love giving the answer that was so obviously wrong to rhetorical questions.[snip]
Cue a bunch of anti-vaxxers whinging about polio and smallpox already being on the decline prior to the introduction of vaccines, and the usual cries of "Well, my friend's kid totally caught the measles after getting his shots, so obviously this single data point disproves everything". Oh, and don't forget to stir a little bit of "What's worse, chicken pox or autism?" into the shit stew.
Nah, only some forms of autism are okay. Like, Aspergers? Yeah, people with Aspergers can do pretty well for themselves. Other people with autism will never be able to live alone, ever. To me, the most terrifying thing in the world is losing my intelligence. That scares me far more than death ever will.If someone said that last one to me, I'd just reply "Chicken pox". Not because I believe it's worse, but because I love giving the answer that was so obviously wrong to rhetorical questions.[snip]
Cue a bunch of anti-vaxxers whinging about polio and smallpox already being on the decline prior to the introduction of vaccines, and the usual cries of "Well, my friend's kid totally caught the measles after getting his shots, so obviously this single data point disproves everything". Oh, and don't forget to stir a little bit of "What's worse, chicken pox or autism?" into the shit stew.
I consider chicken pox the right answer to that question. Chicken pox, if you catch it too late in life, can be itself fatal. Autism is only fatal when other people are complete shitheads.
As someone with Asperger's, I can vouch for that. In high school, I helped work with some of the more severely autistic children. Some of them will never be able to even speak, let alone anything more advanced. Plenty of autistic people can function, but the worst cases are truly debilitating. Not that it's really relevant here, as there is literally no evidence that vaccines cause autism.Ahh, that sucks. Point is, yeah, Chickenpox > Severe autism. Hell, if I was going to have a kid and the doctors said she'd have that level of autism, I'd definitely prefer an abortion. That's just a hellish existence.
By the way, if I seem more aggressive than normal, It's cause I'm irritated that my otherwise rational parents have bought into the anti-vaccine nonsense.
As someone with Asperger's, I can vouch for that. In high school, I helped work with some of the more severely autistic children. Some of them will never be able to even speak, let alone anything more advanced. Plenty of autistic people can function, but the worst cases are truly debilitating. Not that it's really relevant here, as there is literally no evidence tat vaccines cause autism.
By the way, if I seem more aggressive than normal, It's cause I'm irritated that my otherwise rational parents have bought into the anti-vaccine nonsense.
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That is actually a good point. Limiting the rights of people just because of their sexual orientation is wrong but certainly not the only questionable thing Russia has done lately. As usual the article that comes with the comic goes into much deeper details:
http://www.filibustercartoons.com/index.php/2013/08/14/putins-worst-crime/
(I would also like to note that even though the comic is just covered in labels, in this case several of those are necessary. Well, I think Gaddafi and Pussy riot would have been recognisable without them.)
As someone with Asperger's, I can vouch for that. In high school, I helped work with some of the more severely autistic children. Some of them will never be able to even speak, let alone anything more advanced. Plenty of autistic people can function, but the worst cases are truly debilitating. Not that it's really relevant here, as there is literally no evidence tat vaccines cause autism.
By the way, if I seem more aggressive than normal, It's cause I'm irritated that my otherwise rational parents have bought into the anti-vaccine nonsense.
Pseudo-science in general tends to piss me off, but the thing that makes anti-vaccination campaigns particularly repugnant is that they put children at risk through absolutely no fault of their own, and have had some pretty major repercussions for society as a whole. When we have outbreaks of measles, whooping cough and other serious diseases resulting from a movement, it's difficult not get angry about it.
That being said, I suppose we can count ourselves lucky that anti-vaxxers didn't become relatively mainstream before the elimination of smallpox or the virtual elimination of diseases like polio in most countries. Not that the measles or whooping cough are anything to sneeze at, of course.
Suspect the reason the anti-vaxxers are becoming mainstream is that most people don't remember what it was like before vaccination, so they don't balance the risks properly. By modern standards the smallpox vaccine is stupidly high risk and dangerous, but the risk was accepted because everyone knew what smallpox did to people.
We should pass around photos of third-world smallpox (or whatever) sufferers.
Of course, they'll be in denial but perhaps we can convince the less insane ones to change their tune.
Also even if you are lucky and catch it early in life, chicken pox puts you at risk of shingles which I have heard is an agonizing disease which in about 1 in 5 cases causes severe lasting complications, and may be linked to increased risk of cancer.
chicken pox is not a joke.
I feel old now given that there wasn't a chicken pox vaccine around when I was little.
Humanity does learn from history,Sigged.
sadly, they're rarely the ones in power.
I don't remember getting it the vaccine, and my mother is the type to never skip a vaccine. I know I had the chicken pox, still have the scar on my stomach from getting it.It is a relatively new one. In taht case make sure you get shingles vaccine when you can
Humanity does learn from history,Sigged.
sadly, they're rarely the ones in power.
You're welcome.Humanity does learn from history,Sigged.
sadly, they're rarely the ones in power.
You're using my quote as your sig. Thank you! I'm honored! :)
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Here it is on Vimeo (http://vimeo.com/64941331)
(https://sphotos-a-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/1230032_494451897316179_723622374_n.jpg)Again, I'm wondering if Obama has deliberately planned this with Obamacare and NSA.
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That being said, one of the groups fighting in Syria has ties to al Qaeda from what I heard.
(http://31.media.tumblr.com/f430c43bc0874c4e123d3bd211c360cf/tumblr_mslhm4LSWz1qbxkjao1_500.jpg)I don't get it.
(http://31.media.tumblr.com/f430c43bc0874c4e123d3bd211c360cf/tumblr_mslhm4LSWz1qbxkjao1_500.jpg)I don't get it.
(http://31.media.tumblr.com/f430c43bc0874c4e123d3bd211c360cf/tumblr_mslhm4LSWz1qbxkjao1_500.jpg)I don't get it.
I think it's commentary on how schools are shortchanging students by teaching them how to take standardized tests instead of how to think.
Just out of curiousity, how common are those multiple choise tests in USA? Because in Finland nearly all of our tests were the type where there are no options to pick from and you have to write down your answer.They're 99% of the tests here.
Just out of curiousity, how common are those multiple choise tests in USA? Because in Finland nearly all of our tests were the type where there are no options to pick from and you have to write down your answer.
...wow. We had.. the odd test that was like that. The EQAO tests in grades 3, 6, and 9 and the literacy test in grade 10 are the only ones I can remember that were actually like that. Other than that we had multiple choice questions, sure, but those were just sections on tests set by the teacher.Just out of curiousity, how common are those multiple choise tests in USA? Because in Finland nearly all of our tests were the type where there are no options to pick from and you have to write down your answer.They're 99% of the tests here.
Just out of curiousity, how common are those multiple choise tests in USA? Because in Finland nearly all of our tests were the type where there are no options to pick from and you have to write down your answer.
Just out of curiousity, how common are those multiple choise tests in USA? Because in Finland nearly all of our tests were the type where there are no options to pick from and you have to write down your answer.
You mean how close to complete exhaustion the teacher is, right? Because, the closer we are the more we try to ease the load on us. I am sure that was what you were trying to say.Just out of curiousity, how common are those multiple choise tests in USA? Because in Finland nearly all of our tests were the type where there are no options to pick from and you have to write down your answer.
The laziness of the teacher is a big contributing factor. It's much easier to grade the MCT than written answers.
You mean how close to complete exhaustion the teacher is, right? Because, the closer we are the more we try to ease the load on us. I am sure that was what you were trying to say.Just out of curiousity, how common are those multiple choise tests in USA? Because in Finland nearly all of our tests were the type where there are no options to pick from and you have to write down your answer.
The laziness of the teacher is a big contributing factor. It's much easier to grade the MCT than written answers.
Just out of curiousity, how common are those multiple choise tests in USA? Because in Finland nearly all of our tests were the type where there are no options to pick from and you have to write down your answer.
I agree, there are no lazy teachers. They get paid like utter shit, and have ginormous workloads.
Just out of curiousity, how common are those multiple choise tests in USA? Because in Finland nearly all of our tests were the type where there are no options to pick from and you have to write down your answer.
Just out of curiousity, how common are those multiple choise tests in USA? Because in Finland nearly all of our tests were the type where there are no options to pick from and you have to write down your answer.
I think most of my tests outside of math were partially multiple choice. A big test would usually have a multiple choice section, a short answer section, and one essay. There was one teacher who liked to give the students 100-question multiple choice quizzes with no warning. One week he did it four days in a row. The third test was entitled "You Probably Should Have Seen This Coming".
(http://31.media.tumblr.com/1baca3c741109f15db5f4eddf1eed678/tumblr_msiqctZWGj1rid2qko1_500.jpg)Not sure if that is best or worst since I can't tell her ethnicity so I dunno if they are saying latinos as a whole are getting higher wages but what about the working white people or not.
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Also, ad makers "cheapen our culture?" Lolwut? How? Please, explain this to me, because it reeks of bullshit.
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I can't be the only person who thinks this is sad, because this is from 2001 and it's not different today.
Advertisements today have the express goal of telling people to be materialistic as all hell by attacking their self esteem for not owning that product.
Advertisements today have the express goal of telling people to be materialistic as all hell by attacking their self esteem for not owning that product.
That's by no means a modern thing.
Advertisements today have the express goal of telling people to be materialistic as all hell by attacking their self esteem for not owning that product.
That's by no means a modern thing.
True. It just seems more prevalent because of the electronic age.
Advertisements today have the express goal of telling people to be materialistic as all hell by attacking their self esteem for not owning that product.
That's by no means a modern thing.
True. It just seems more prevalent because of the electronic age.
It doesn't seem more prevalent, it is. The length of commercial breaks have atleast doubled since the 1960s, and are getting longer.
Advertisements today have the express goal of telling people to be materialistic as all hell by attacking their self esteem for not owning that product.
That's by no means a modern thing.
True. It just seems more prevalent because of the electronic age.
It doesn't seem more prevalent, it is. The length of commercial breaks have at least doubled since the 1960s, and are getting longer.
Advertisements today have the express goal of telling people to be materialistic as all hell by attacking their self esteem for not owning that product.
That's by no means a modern thing.
True. It just seems more prevalent because of the electronic age.
It doesn't seem more prevalent, it is. The length of commercial breaks have at least doubled since the 1960s, and are getting longer.
The goal of adverticing did change around the mid-20th century. Before that the goal was to take advantage of an existing market by highlighting the advantages of your products. Nowadays a big purpose of marketing is to grow the existing market or even create a market for your product by using the previously mentioned psychological methods.Not true. Many products, like deodorant, invented their own need. In fact, until a marketing campaign invented the dangers of body odor, deodorant did not sell much at all. Other products did much the same.
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Spoilered because huge.(click to show/hide)
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my dad said he would hire the interns and whe i pointed out only 2% increase him dont use factsCould someone translate this?
No you need to stop getting so butt hurt when people ask for clarification.
Ironbite-it's seriously getting old.
it will get better once my laptop gets back phone keyboard et all
I have big hands so the integrated keyboard is still a bit too small
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I always thought unpaid internships were a pretty fucking raw deal. Seems I was right on the money.
Some moron in Finland suggested that we should basically start having unpaid interns in Finland as well for the same bullshit reasons. "You get work experience and maybe the company will hire you afterwards."
The same companies that HAVE been hiring students when we haven't got interns. I'm sure they'd be happier if they didn't have to pay, but since they are doing so right now it means that the "intern" idea is not needed. He also suggested that students should start getting loans to support their lifes while studying since they would then be losing the pay that they get with the current system of, you know, WORKING ALONGSIDE THEIR STUDIES ON VACATIONS!
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Oh come on, when did something like that even happen to USA?
Apart from the battle of Pearl harbour that is.
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The story behind it.(click to show/hide)
Behind that
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/24/ted-cruz-green-eggs-and-ham_n_3985336.html
Here's a link to the comic because Tumblr won't let me post it here right now for some reason... (http://gronkwena.tumblr.com/post/61666061183/gender-tapas-edit-fixed-for-viewability-click)
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IDK where to put this or if it has already been posted somewhere.
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IDK where to put this or if it has already been posted somewhere.
Tell me who banned Anne Frank's diary, so I can snap their spines in half!
I'll confess, I did once consider writing a fanfic involving the Holocaust. It would have been a Buffy fic about a Slayer who was called while in the camps, and dies saving the world from the Thule Society. Dead Nazis would have featured prominently.
I'll confess, I did once consider writing a fanfic involving the Holocaust. It would have been a Buffy fic about a Slayer who was called while in the camps, and dies saving the world from the Thule Society. Dead Nazis would have featured prominently.
That's a little different. Plenty of fictional stories have been written about Hitler getting his ass kicked. I think the old Justice League series had a scene where one of the heroes punched Hitler in the face. The thing is most are more tastefully done than Goku and Anne fighting super sayian Hitler.
What homosexual themes does it have?
Sometimes, when in lie in bed at night, I have a terrible desire to feel my breasts and to listen to the rhythmic beat of my heart. I already had these kids of feelings subconsciously before I came here, because I remember that once when I slept with a girl friend I had a strong desire to kiss her, and that I did do so. I could not help being terrible inquisitive over her body, for she had always kept it hidden from me. I asked her weather, as proof of our friendship, we should fee one another's breasts, but she refused. I go into ecstasies every time I see the naked figure of a woman, such as Venus, for example. it strikes me as so wonderful and exquisite that i have difficulty in stopping the tears rolling down my cheeks.
What homosexual themes does it have?QuoteSometimes, when in lie in bed at night, I have a terrible desire to feel my breasts and to listen to the rhythmic beat of my heart. I already had these kids of feelings subconsciously before I came here, because I remember that once when I slept with a girl friend I had a strong desire to kiss her, and that I did do so. I could not help being terrible inquisitive over her body, for she had always kept it hidden from me. I asked her weather, as proof of our friendship, we should fee one another's breasts, but she refused. I go into ecstasies every time I see the naked figure of a woman, such as Venus, for example. it strikes me as so wonderful and exquisite that i have difficulty in stopping the tears rolling down my cheeks.
Funny how Ann Frank and Huck Finn get banned for sending out messages, but HP Lovecraft almost always gets through, no matter how dark his stories and creatures are.
Worth noting that Anne Frank's dad excised those bits when he was initially preparing the diary for publication. They were later put back in.
Funny how Ann Frank and Huck Finn get banned for sending out messages, but HP Lovecraft almost always gets through, no matter how dark his stories and creatures are.Not to mention racist, have you read Lovecraft? (please note that I'm not calling for anyone to ban Lovecraft, his stories, if you can get around the horrible racism, are really good for the most part, I'm just sayin')
Funny how Ann Frank and Huck Finn get banned for sending out messages, but HP Lovecraft almost always gets through, no matter how dark his stories and creatures are.Not to mention racist, have you read Lovecraft? (please note that I'm not calling for anyone to ban Lovecraft, his stories, if you can get around the horrible racism, are really good for the most part, I'm just sayin')
She died when she was 16 but seeing as erotic fiction has been around forever (there are some creepy erotica in the Bible for perspective) I'm guessing she was probably 15
Funny how Ann Frank and Huck Finn get banned for sending out messages, but HP Lovecraft almost always gets through, no matter how dark his stories and creatures are.
Odd Shakesphere's women were fairly strong for the era in some of his more obscure plays like the Tempest. Merchant of Venice well I dodn't actually know if he would have gotten published if he didn't have Shylock stop being a jewFunny how Ann Frank and Huck Finn get banned for sending out messages, but HP Lovecraft almost always gets through, no matter how dark his stories and creatures are.Not to mention racist, have you read Lovecraft? (please note that I'm not calling for anyone to ban Lovecraft, his stories, if you can get around the horrible racism, are really good for the most part, I'm just sayin')
Lovecraft's racism flies under the radar because it's not widely known or obvious in his writings. There are a couple of his stories which deal with this anxieties over "miscegenation." (Shadow over Innsmouth, for instance, was written in the wake of his horrifying revelation that one of his ancestors was... gasp... Welsh.)
I actually don't see the issue with studying works of authors with horrible opinions in the classroom. I mean, Shakespeare's portrayal of women is far from positive, but all but the most extremely bigoted (like The Taming of the Shrew and some interpretations of The Merchant of Venice) are popular reading in high school courses. As long as students are encouraged to examine the attitudes in those works critically, I don't see the problem with it. The issue is that a lot of English teachers don't really get students to think about the work critically.
She died when she was 16 but seeing as erotic fiction has been around forever (there are some creepy erotica in the Bible for perspective) I'm guessing she was probably 15
I rather 'like' Song of Solomon. It's actually fairly good literature coming from a book used to persecute billions. If the Bible were more like Song of Solomon, we might actually have gotten somewhere. But I digress....
Smoking Dodongo needs to make that the wallpaper on his mom's computer. Wow.Yeah. I think the bit about suicides (depression goes hand in hand with this) and housing problems are the ones that people should really pay attention to. I still can't believe that parents would throw their kids out on the streets over something like this in the 21st century.
Smoking Dodongo needs to make that the wallpaper on his mom's computer. Wow.Yeah. I think the bit about suicides (depression goes hand in hand with this) and housing problems are the ones that people should really pay attention to. I still can't believe that parents would throw their kids out on the streets over something like this in the 21st century.
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Smoking Dodongo needs to make that the wallpaper on his mom's computer. Wow.Did somebody say SmokingDodongo?
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Uhh, Err.
I prefer there be faces at least.
Uhh, Err.
I prefer there be faces at least.
It's probably an advert, so saving on space (they're all recognisable in any event) would make sense in that context. The real problem is with checking for breast cancer whilst wearing a sculpted breastplate (top panel), which would be completely ineffective.
Uhh, Err.
I prefer there be faces at least.
It's probably an advert, so saving on space (they're all recognisable in any event) would make sense in that context. The real problem is with checking for breast cancer whilst wearing a sculpted breastplate (top panel), which would be completely ineffective.
I think the red part of Wonder Woman's costume is a fabric or leather, only the gold/brass parts are hard.
Is the third one a female Hulk? I don't recognize her off the top of my head.
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It's from that new Fox show that's a ripoff of Robot Chicken I think.
I think it's implying that just because the goverment shutdown is over it does not mean that USA is fine now. I cannot be sure if this is because the artist feels that Obamacare will destroy it or because the things that lead to the shutdown still exist and the politicians will continue to tear the country apart.
It's from that new Fox show that's a ripoff of Robot Chicken I think.
It's so vague. It could be interpreted either way.
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I was under the impression that was more about open rebellion rather than simple verbal dissent.
Matthew Lyon, born in Ireland, was a Democratic-Republican congressman from Vermont. He was indicted under the Sedition Act for an essay he had written in the Vermont Journal accusing the administration of "ridiculous pomp, foolish adulation, and selfish avarice". While awaiting trial, Lyon commenced publication of Lyon's Republican Magazine, subtitled "The Scourge of Aristocracy". At trial, he was fined $1,000 and sentenced to four months in prison. After his release, he returned to Congress.
Benjamin Franklin Bache was editor of the Aurora, a Democratic-Republican newspaper. Bache had accused George Washington of incompetence and financial irregularities, and "the blind, bald, crippled, toothless, querulous ADAMS" of nepotism and monarchical ambition. He was arrested for his activities, but he died of yellow fever before trial.
In November 1798, David Brown led a group in Dedham, Massachusetts in setting up a liberty pole with the words, "No Stamp Act, No Sedition Act, No Alien Bills, No Land Tax, downfall to the Tyrants of America; peace and retirement to the President; Long Live the Vice President"...Brown pled guilty but Justice Samuel Chase asked him to name others who had assisted him. Brown refused, was fined $480, and sentenced to eighteen months in prison, the most severe sentence ever imposed under the Sedition Act.
Ehh, it goes too far for that. The only explanation I can come up with is that they had a brain fart and assumed Congress could override the 1st Amendment (the Alien and Sedition Acts predate the concept of judicial review).
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I just had an idea: "Don't worry, burns are covered by Obamacare."
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I just had an idea: "Don't worry, burns are covered by Obamacare."
Huh. Well, I'll be damned. Live and learn.
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How is that a political cartoon? O_o
How is that a political cartoon? O_o
Because munching some fine carpet is considered "unmanly" by some?
How is that a political cartoon? O_o
Because munching some fine carpet is considered "unmanly" by some?
And whiskey is the backbone of the Tennessee economy, about time it gets some support! Not to mention a great call to separate church and state.
How is that a political cartoon? O_o
Because munching some fine carpet is considered "unmanly" by some?
And whiskey is the backbone of the Tennessee economy, about time it gets some support! Not to mention a great call to separate church and state.
The horse piss your Tennessee countrymen pump out is not whiskey. Admittedly, nor is the cat piss Australians produce. If it ain't from Scotland, it better be Irish.
How is that a political cartoon? O_o
Because munching some fine carpet is considered "unmanly" by some?
And whiskey is the backbone of the Tennessee economy, about time it gets some support! Not to mention a great call to separate church and state.
The horse piss your Tennessee countrymen pump out is not whiskey. Admittedly, nor is the cat piss Australians produce. If it ain't from Scotland, it better be Irish.
All of the Tennessee whiskies were formulated by ethnic Scots and Irish colonists. It's whiskey, made with the best grains they could grow, the best water, and then filtered and aged with nice clean charred oak instead of bog peat, which means they got to leave out that oh so magical "secret" ingredient of ancient, sacrificed bodies and dead fall animal carcasses, all nicely mummified by centuries of soaking in the peat's tannins. :P So, nyah.
I...um, don't drink.
Or smoke...anything, for that matter.
I must be really boring.
All of the Tennessee whiskies were formulated by ethnic Scots and Irish colonists. It's whiskey, made with the best grains they could grow, the best water, and then filtered and aged with nice clean charred oak instead of bog peat, which means they got to leave out that oh so magical "secret" ingredient of ancient, sacrificed bodies and dead fall animal carcasses, all nicely mummified by centuries of soaking in the peat's tannins. :P So, nyah.
Mmmm. Love that distilled essence of human sacrifice.
Still better than lutefisk.
This is like that one bit in Mass Effect 3 where Ken is talking about how the Illusive Man is obviously evil because he drinks American bourbon, except not funny.
All of the Tennessee whiskies were formulated by ethnic Scots and Irish colonists. It's whiskey, made with the best grains they could grow, the best water, and then filtered and aged with nice clean charred oak instead of bog peat, which means they got to leave out that oh so magical "secret" ingredient of ancient, sacrificed bodies and dead fall animal carcasses, all nicely mummified by centuries of soaking in the peat's tannins. :P So, nyah.
Mmmm. Love that distilled essence of human sacrifice.
Still better than lutefisk.
I actually think Scots whiskey is about as metal as you can get. Think about it.
And ya couldn't pay me enough to eat a plate of lutefisk. Codfish jello WTF!
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Miserably, one of my cousins (who wanted her child, and she's an awesome mom at 22) went through that recently. It fucking stopped when her dad pulled out a nine iron from the golf clubs he carries around in his car and clocked one of the guys. Everybody stared at him after he laid the asshole out. All he had to do was say one thing.
"That was my nine iron. I have another fourteen clubs at my disposal. Step away from my daughter and leave her alone, or I'll happily send you all to the hospital."
The cops didn't arrest my uncle, because it wasn't lethal force and the group were harrassing my cousin first. Weird case of 'self-defense by proxy'.
Are you sure the cops didn't just think the asshole deserved a nine iron shaped lump in the head or worse and decided to call it legit? ;D
What was your cousin doing/where was she that she had to put up with that sort of shit because I just can't imagine this was a random occurance?
I can't taste the difference between diet pop and regular pop. I hate them all.Unfortunately, I have a rather sensitive tongue, and I can pretty much always tell between artificial sweetener like Splenda or aspartame and either high-fructose corn syrup or regular sugar. The aftertaste of the former is a fucking killer, lemme tell ya. Then, there's Sugar In The Raw, which pretentious places like Starbucks use in place of real fucking sugar. Sugar In The Raw may be "raw sugar," but lemme tell ya, it can't sweeten a cup of coffee anymore than I could with my own saliva; that is to say, not at fucking all.
There is a nice essay to go with the picture:
http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2013/9/11/what-is-the-differencebetweenspreekillersandterrorists.html
The initial reaction of a lot of victims, onlookers and commenters to the Boston bombing, before anyone knew who was behind it, was an anguished Why? There are of course some sensible reasons for needing to know this; if the perpetrators had accomplices or backers who might be planning further attacks, the police and government should know about it as soon as possible. But I don't believe the real, reason behind the public's urgent need to know the motives of the bombers was a practical one. After Boston, I wanted to know Why too; what I still don't understand is why we needed to know why. Rationally, this question doesn't make any more sense when asked about a terrorist attack or mass shooting than it does when it’s about a tornado, or cancer. It's essentially what Job asked the whirlwind...
To seek to understand the motives of such people is, in a way, to cede them too much credence and dignity. Who cares what was going on in someone's head when he decided to blow up a parade or shoot up a grade school?
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There is a nice essay to go with the picture:
http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2013/9/11/what-is-the-differencebetweenspreekillersandterrorists.html
"At this point, being a member of al-Qaeda is sort of like being a member of Anonymous — if you claim you're in it, maybe you are."
Um. What. The author of that essay seems to have a clear misunderstanding of the whole situation and the differences between spree shooter and terrorist.
There is a nice essay to go with the picture:
http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2013/9/11/what-is-the-differencebetweenspreekillersandterrorists.htmlQuoteThe initial reaction of a lot of victims, onlookers and commenters to the Boston bombing, before anyone knew who was behind it, was an anguished Why? There are of course some sensible reasons for needing to know this; if the perpetrators had accomplices or backers who might be planning further attacks, the police and government should know about it as soon as possible. But I don't believe the real, reason behind the public's urgent need to know the motives of the bombers was a practical one. After Boston, I wanted to know Why too; what I still don't understand is why we needed to know why. Rationally, this question doesn't make any more sense when asked about a terrorist attack or mass shooting than it does when it’s about a tornado, or cancer. It's essentially what Job asked the whirlwind...
To seek to understand the motives of such people is, in a way, to cede them too much credence and dignity. Who cares what was going on in someone's head when he decided to blow up a parade or shoot up a grade school?
Wut? Seriously? The point of asking 'Why?' is not to lend credence or legitimacy, but to understand the reason behind whatever you are looking at. Unless you remove the cause/s for terrorist attacks/random shooting etc, nothing will change. There is a practical use behind asking why.
There is a nice essay to go with the picture:
http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2013/9/11/what-is-the-differencebetweenspreekillersandterrorists.htmlQuoteThe initial reaction of a lot of victims, onlookers and commenters to the Boston bombing, before anyone knew who was behind it, was an anguished Why? There are of course some sensible reasons for needing to know this; if the perpetrators had accomplices or backers who might be planning further attacks, the police and government should know about it as soon as possible. But I don't believe the real, reason behind the public's urgent need to know the motives of the bombers was a practical one. After Boston, I wanted to know Why too; what I still don't understand is why we needed to know why. Rationally, this question doesn't make any more sense when asked about a terrorist attack or mass shooting than it does when it’s about a tornado, or cancer. It's essentially what Job asked the whirlwind...
To seek to understand the motives of such people is, in a way, to cede them too much credence and dignity. Who cares what was going on in someone's head when he decided to blow up a parade or shoot up a grade school?
Wut? Seriously? The point of asking 'Why?' is not to lend credence or legitimacy, but to understand the reason behind whatever you are looking at. Unless you remove the cause/s for terrorist attacks/random shooting etc, nothing will change. There is a practical use behind asking why.
Nine tenths of minority group terrorism is the over-reaction* to legitimate grievances. That's true of Northern Ireland, Palestine, Iraq and a host of other places and times. Obviously, part of a decent, serious counter-insurgency response must be to alleviate those grievances; this is how the Northern Ireland Troubles ended, for instance. African terrorism against whites in South Africa (which was serious, at times) basically ended as soon as apartheid did. If this response is not considered- perhaps as part of a suite of responses- this is a good clue that what is being undertaken is not counter-insurgency at all, but terrorism of a different sort. If you will not even consider stopping the evil thing you are doing that is angering people so much they are willing to give up their lives to stop it- if you value your oppression more than you value the lives of your citizens, then perhaps it is not them that is the fundamental problem.
* This is a poor way to put this. I mean mis-reaction, but that isn't a word. I don't mean to suggest that the grievances behind, for instance, the Tamil Tigers or the Mau Mau were less serious than their reaction to them, just that a terrorist response almost never improves a situation.
Originally in an article linked on the Best of Social Justice Thread:
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Well I don't agree about everything with Kreider but I think his "let's ignore them and not even bother to find out why they did this" was more about the medias reaction to spree killers. Some of them clearly wanted to go out "in a blaze of glory" and were in fact hoping that they would be on the news because of the slaughter they caused. There even are some people who celebrate mass murderers.
Like Fred said for a terrorist/guerilla movement to survive for long they need the support of the people and there usually is some reason for their support. Wether that reason is hostile occupation, dictatorship, rising nationalistic-identity or even religious reasons going after the cause is more effective than simply fighting the symptom.
Not that it would always be that easy, for example having some region of your country wanting to break off into a new country is quite common (The Basque, Quebec, Northern Ireland, Palestine, etc.) and few countries look towards that favourably even if they haven't been mistreating those citizens.
EDIT: Quick add, not all of those groups I listed are terrorists. In fact, I doubt the Quebecians for example would support their members starting a wave of terrorism against Canada. There simply is no support for violence as Canada hasn't given cause for it. Which is unlike the Palestinian case, for example.
Nine tenths of minority group terrorism is the over-reaction* to legitimate grievances. That's true of Northern Ireland, Palestine, Iraq and a host of other places and times. Obviously, part of a decent, serious counter-insurgency response must be to alleviate those grievances; this is how the Northern Ireland Troubles ended, for instance. African terrorism against whites in South Africa (which was serious, at times) basically ended as soon as apartheid did. If this response is not considered- perhaps as part of a suite of responses- this is a good clue that what is being undertaken is not counter-insurgency at all, but terrorism of a different sort. If you will not even consider stopping the evil thing you are doing that is angering people so much they are willing to give up their lives to stop it- if you value your oppression more than you value the lives of your citizens, then perhaps it is not them that is the fundamental problem.
* This is a poor way to put this. I mean mis-reaction, but that isn't a word. I don't mean to suggest that the grievances behind, for instance, the Tamil Tigers or the Mau Mau were less serious than their reaction to them, just that a terrorist response almost never improves a situation.
This, of course, makes Far-Right Western Terrorists even more evil. Guys like the Tsarnev brothers may have had some legit grievances behind their insanity but Breivik just wanted to preserve his bigoted backwards "white privilege".
I see nothing wrong with Western/1st World folks going to 2nd & 3rd World countries to improve things per se, ... It's sad because, the charge of "Imperialism/White Man's Burden/Cultural Appropriation" can really hamper people who genuinely want to help out. Why can't folks in the West allowed to make up for their mistakes & undo their screw-ups?
Nitpick, the Red Army Faction (aka Baader-Meinhof gang) was a German group, and while they occasionally struck targets or cooperated with groups outside Germany (most famously the Landshut hijacking by Palestinians), Italy was not a center of their attention in any way. I agree with your observation and am not opposed to your conclusion, but you're probably mixing up some names.Nine tenths of minority group terrorism is the over-reaction* to legitimate grievances. That's true of Northern Ireland, Palestine, Iraq and a host of other places and times. Obviously, part of a decent, serious counter-insurgency response must be to alleviate those grievances; this is how the Northern Ireland Troubles ended, for instance. African terrorism against whites in South Africa (which was serious, at times) basically ended as soon as apartheid did. If this response is not considered- perhaps as part of a suite of responses- this is a good clue that what is being undertaken is not counter-insurgency at all, but terrorism of a different sort. If you will not even consider stopping the evil thing you are doing that is angering people so much they are willing to give up their lives to stop it- if you value your oppression more than you value the lives of your citizens, then perhaps it is not them that is the fundamental problem.
* This is a poor way to put this. I mean mis-reaction, but that isn't a word. I don't mean to suggest that the grievances behind, for instance, the Tamil Tigers or the Mau Mau were less serious than their reaction to them, just that a terrorist response almost never improves a situation.
This, of course, makes Far-Right Western Terrorists even more evil. Guys like the Tsarnev brothers may have had some legit grievances behind their insanity but Breivik just wanted to preserve his bigoted backwards "white privilege".
I think our response to these organisations is often revealing. Take Italy. Everyone has heard of the Baader-Meinhof Gang, and maybe even the Italian Revolutionary Front, both of whom operated in Italy. Both of them were (rightly) the target of major police efforts to stop them. But they were trivial compared to the true Italian terrorist groups, firstly the fascists like the Nuclei Armati Rivoluzionari, and secondly the Mafia. These killed far more people, did far more damage and were far more threatening to the state. The amount of resources devoted to crushing them (and indeed the amount of media attention on them) is and almost always has been minimal compared to the less dangerous left wing groups. Why? Because left wing politics is dangerous and right wing politics is not. The importance of a terrorist act to the Italian state has nothing to do with the act, but the motivation behind it, and the propaganda value to the state.
Also, these groups make up most of the 10% or so that are not fundamentally motivated by some legitimate grievance.
Not understandy, please elaboratey.QuoteI see nothing wrong with Western/1st World folks going to 2nd & 3rd World countries to improve things per se, ... It's sad because, the charge of "Imperialism/White Man's Burden/Cultural Appropriation" can really hamper people who genuinely want to help out. Why can't folks in the West allowed to make up for their mistakes & undo their screw-ups?
I do!
Nitpick, the Red Army Faction (aka Baader-Meinhof gang) was a German group, and while they occasionally struck targets or cooperated with groups outside Germany (most famously the Landshut hijacking by Palestinians), Italy was not a center of their attention in any way. I agree with your observation and am not opposed to your conclusion, but you're probably mixing up some names.Nine tenths of minority group terrorism is the over-reaction* to legitimate grievances. That's true of Northern Ireland, Palestine, Iraq and a host of other places and times. Obviously, part of a decent, serious counter-insurgency response must be to alleviate those grievances; this is how the Northern Ireland Troubles ended, for instance. African terrorism against whites in South Africa (which was serious, at times) basically ended as soon as apartheid did. If this response is not considered- perhaps as part of a suite of responses- this is a good clue that what is being undertaken is not counter-insurgency at all, but terrorism of a different sort. If you will not even consider stopping the evil thing you are doing that is angering people so much they are willing to give up their lives to stop it- if you value your oppression more than you value the lives of your citizens, then perhaps it is not them that is the fundamental problem.
* This is a poor way to put this. I mean mis-reaction, but that isn't a word. I don't mean to suggest that the grievances behind, for instance, the Tamil Tigers or the Mau Mau were less serious than their reaction to them, just that a terrorist response almost never improves a situation.
This, of course, makes Far-Right Western Terrorists even more evil. Guys like the Tsarnev brothers may have had some legit grievances behind their insanity but Breivik just wanted to preserve his bigoted backwards "white privilege".
I think our response to these organisations is often revealing. Take Italy. Everyone has heard of the Baader-Meinhof Gang, and maybe even the Italian Revolutionary Front, both of whom operated in Italy. Both of them were (rightly) the target of major police efforts to stop them. But they were trivial compared to the true Italian terrorist groups, firstly the fascists like the Nuclei Armati Rivoluzionari, and secondly the Mafia. These killed far more people, did far more damage and were far more threatening to the state. The amount of resources devoted to crushing them (and indeed the amount of media attention on them) is and almost always has been minimal compared to the less dangerous left wing groups. Why? Because left wing politics is dangerous and right wing politics is not. The importance of a terrorist act to the Italian state has nothing to do with the act, but the motivation behind it, and the propaganda value to the state.
Also, these groups make up most of the 10% or so that are not fundamentally motivated by some legitimate grievance.
Not understandy, please elaboratey.QuoteI see nothing wrong with Western/1st World folks going to 2nd & 3rd World countries to improve things per se, ... It's sad because, the charge of "Imperialism/White Man's Burden/Cultural Appropriation" can really hamper people who genuinely want to help out. Why can't folks in the West allowed to make up for their mistakes & undo their screw-ups?
I do!
Basically even if there were WMDs in Iraq us invading would have still killed more people
The racism of a colonial power isn't the problem, it's a symptom. The problem is one country running another without permission and usually without meaningful participation. That is inherently a problem. The other problem is that no country ever uses force except in its own interests. Only very occasionally do those interests align with what should be done, in Bangladesh, for instance, and Cambodia.
So if you go invade someone else's country even with stated humanitarian motives, nine times out of ten your real motives will lead to the opposite effect.
The racism of a colonial power isn't the problem, it's a symptom. The problem is one country running another without permission and usually without meaningful participation. That is inherently a problem. The other problem is that no country ever uses force except in its own interests. Only very occasionally do those interests align with what should be done, in Bangladesh, for instance, and Cambodia.
So if you go invade someone else's country even with stated humanitarian motives, nine times out of ten your real motives will lead to the opposite effect.
I must clear something up. I by no means meant "Military Invasion". I do not support the invasions in Iraq or elsewhere. I meant humanitarian relief, education, charity. Peaceful solutions that get to the root of the problem.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abZmFCs-ltY
From what I remember from the author:
"The Matrix is a fun movie, just not one to base a philosophy on" or something like that.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1w5Pb1-zayASigh good effort rare Israeli leftist but even the mainstream left is full of racists.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1w5Pb1-zayASigh good effort rare Israeli leftist but even the mainstream left is full of racists.
I meant in terms of things like immigration Palestine etc.
I meant in terms of things like immigration Palestine etc.
I didn't realize the primary definition of a leftist was their position on Palestine.
I meant in terms of things like immigration Palestine etc.
I didn't realize the primary definition of a leftist was their position on Palestine.
Well I was recently told that the primary definitions of right wing are your position on minorities, immigrants and generally being intolerant. You know rather than any political positions you might have.
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Too bad healthy food tends to be relatively tasteless (or worse, tastes bitter or such) to the point where it triggers binge eating of junk food anyways.
Of course the healthy food that does have a flavor seems to be reserved for the rich and famous, AKA the people who can afford it.
Did it have to mock ba h geti
The ones I get can be finished in a single sitting.
I meant in terms of things like immigration Palestine etc.
I meant in terms of things like immigration Palestine etc.
I didn't realize the primary definition of a leftist was their position on Palestine.
Well I was recently told that the primary definitions of right wing are your position on minorities, immigrants and generally being intolerant. You know rather than any political positions you might have.
I'd say it's a hodgepodge. When it comes to economic issues, Israel is a little to the left of Scandinavia.
Also progressive except Palestine and African refugeesI meant in terms of things like immigration Palestine etc.
The term is Progressive Except Palestine, or PEP for short. An excellent example of:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u52Oz-54VYwI meant in terms of things like immigration Palestine etc.
I didn't realize the primary definition of a leftist was their position on Palestine.
Well I was recently told that the primary definitions of right wing are your position on minorities, immigrants and generally being intolerant. You know rather than any political positions you might have.
I'd say it's a hodgepodge. When it comes to economic issues, Israel is a little to the left of Scandinavia.
Really? Scandinavia really is quite an incredibly wonderful place. I don't mean to belittle Israel; you're (they're?) way better on this stuff than Australia. But I don't think that, for instance, Israel has anywhere near the Gini of, say, Sweden. Not to mention labour relations law!
We can't have people thinking Israel cares about something other than itself, now can we?
Really? Scandinavia really is quite an incredibly wonderful place. I don't mean to belittle Israel; you're (they're?) way better on this stuff than Australia. But I don't think that, for instance, Israel has anywhere near the Gini of, say, Sweden. Not to mention labour relations law!
Also progressive except Palestine and African refugees
Also, if you're a critic of the policies of the state of Israel, you're an anti-semite, but we have no idea from whence this new wave of anti-semitism comes.
Also, if you're a critic of the policies of the state of Israel, you're an anti-semite, but we have no idea from whence this new wave of anti-semitism comes.I've not seen much of that sentiment, actually. A common opinion is that holding Israel to a double standard while not demanding the same from other countries (particularly the Arabs) is anti-Semitism. I think this idea has merit, but it gets murky, and can be used to try to whitewash Israel's actions. But merely criticizing Israeli policies is not anti-Semitism. If it were, then the entire Israeli left are anti-Semites.
Also, if you're a critic of the policies of the state of Israel, you're an anti-semite, but we have no idea from whence this new wave of anti-semitism comes.I've not seen much of that sentiment, actually. A common opinion is that holding Israel to a double standard while not demanding the same from other countries (particularly the Arabs) is anti-Semitism. I think this idea has merit, but it gets murky, and can be used to try to whitewash Israel's actions. But merely criticizing Israeli policies is not anti-Semitism. If it were, then the entire Israeli left are anti-Semites.
Also, another issue with that argument is that Arabs are not a homogenous group, and Palestinians have experienced racism in other Middle Eastern nations because they are essentially refugees. Shifting the blame back on "Arabs" (which is hard to define in this case, because some people use it as a buzzword for Palestinians or even Middle Easterners in general) demonizes them while refusing to understand the complexity of the situation, erases Palestinians of their own identity and experiences in other nations, and is a distraction from the fact that the root cause of the Palestinian refugee crises is Israel's and only Israel's actions, not the actions of Jordan or Lebanon or whosoever.
Also, if you're a critic of the policies of the state of Israel, you're an anti-semite, but we have no idea from whence this new wave of anti-semitism comes.
I've not seen much of that sentiment, actually. A common opinion is that holding Israel to a double standard while not demanding the same from other countries (particularly the Arabs) is anti-Semitism. I think this idea has merit, but it gets murky, and can be used to try to whitewash Israel's actions. But merely criticizing Israeli policies is not anti-Semitism. If it were, then the entire Israeli left are anti-Semites.
I have seen Jews be called no true jew for being anti Israel
Also, I disagree about Sharon. I don't know much about his domestic policy, but I do have a good idea of his military record; it sucks. Total blowhard, Patton-lite, with a side of mass-murder.
Ariel Sharon had a dreadful military career, but his career as leader was much greater. I think Israel has really gone downhill since they lost him.
Also, I disagree about Sharon. I don't know much about his domestic policy, but I do have a good idea of his military record; it sucks. Total blowhard, Patton-lite, with a side of mass-murder.
He's also the guy who broke with his own party to enact the Gaza pullout, which some predicted could lead to civil war.
Ariel Sharon had a dreadful military career, but his career as leader was much greater. I think Israel has really gone downhill since they lost him.
Agreed. One of the better things for Israeli politics would be for him to recover from his coma.
Ariel Sharon had a dreadful military career, but his career as leader was much greater. I think Israel has really gone downhill since they lost him.
Agreed. One of the better things for Israeli politics would be for him to recover from his coma.
Unfortunately, comas aren't often like the kind you see in movies where people just 'wake up' and are pretty much fine. Mostly, the longer the coma, the harder it is to come back to 'yourself'. If ever. :-/
Ariel Sharon had a dreadful military career, but his career as leader was much greater. I think Israel has really gone downhill since they lost him.
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(http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/4904/jm9u.png)As if the other news stations are any better. I think it says something about the state of journalism that just about everybody, whether they be rich or poor, urban or rural, religious or atheistic, liberal or conservative, hates the news media.
Is it just me or is her head way too big, in that picture.
Everything about that photo is photoshopped.Yup. Models are virtually always photoshopped.
Thing is though whites don't need a white pride movement as they've not been an opressed minority.I'm sure there are some Zimbabweans who would disagree with you.
Thing is though whites don't need a white pride movement as they've not been an opressed minority.I'm sure there are some Zimbabweans who would disagree with you.
And while they may not need one, I don't think we should automatically assume that "white pride" people are racist. Then again, maybe that's just the egalitarian in me talking.
There's a difference between pride in one's own ethnicity (i.e., "Irish Pride"), which is fine as long as it doesn't degenerate into mindless nationalism, and pride in being White, which is actually a euphemism for white supremacy and has always been used by neo-Nazis and racist groups.
(Before someone brings it up, yes, "Black Pride" is different because unlike most White people in the United States, Black Americans who are descendants of slaves sadly cannot trace their ancestry the same way. "Black Pride" is generally also used as an expression against the racist idea that Black people should be ashamed of being Black, whereas White people face no such prejudice in America.)
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(http://l3.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/oyk4qK49RQ9w2UeWFYvC5g--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7Zmk9ZmlsbDtoPTM2MjtweW9mZj0wO3E9NzU7dz01MDA-/http://media.zenfs.com/en_us/News/ucomics.com/bor140102.gif)Yeah, we really oughta try to avoid bombing innocent people.
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Personally, I think racial pride of any kind is dumb, but I don't think people should be demonized just for having pride in their ethnicity.
Like I said, I think white pride is dumb. However, I don't think we should demonize those who believe in it, not unless they think they're better than everyone else.
Anyway:
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There's a difference between white pride and ethnic pride. A lot of people seem to miss it.
Along with that, a lot of people like to say 'nobody who is white has ever faced discrimination'. This is false on many levels: 1) You're erasing the LGBTQ white people and 2) You're erasing the fact that the Irish and sometimes the Italians are still discriminated against. And the fact that they were badly discriminated against back in the 19th and early 20th centuries. Hell, it was even considered oppression at the time (that icky word people like to over-define). 3) You're also ignoring the disabled white folks. Being white doesn't protect you from everyfuckingthing.
So, yeah. People need to learn the differences. Small, but important differences.
There's a difference between white pride and ethnic pride. A lot of people seem to miss it.
Along with that, a lot of people like to say 'nobody who is white has ever faced discrimination'. This is false on many levels: 1) You're erasing the LGBTQ white people and 2) You're erasing the fact that the Irish and sometimes the Italians are still discriminated against. And the fact that they were badly discriminated against back in the 19th and early 20th centuries. Hell, it was even considered oppression at the time (that icky word people like to over-define). 3) You're also ignoring the disabled white folks. Being white doesn't protect you from everyfuckingthing.
So, yeah. People need to learn the differences. Small, but important differences.
I think's it more accurate to say no one was discriminated against BECAUSE they were white.
There's a difference between white pride and ethnic pride. A lot of people seem to miss it.
Along with that, a lot of people like to say 'nobody who is white has ever faced discrimination'. This is false on many levels: 1) You're erasing the LGBTQ white people and 2) You're erasing the fact that the Irish and sometimes the Italians are still discriminated against. And the fact that they were badly discriminated against back in the 19th and early 20th centuries. Hell, it was even considered oppression at the time (that icky word people like to over-define). 3) You're also ignoring the disabled white folks. Being white doesn't protect you from everyfuckingthing.
So, yeah. People need to learn the differences. Small, but important differences.
I think's it more accurate to say no one was discriminated against BECAUSE they were white.
It would be even more accurate to say that white people do not experience institutional racism in the United States (or whichever other white-majority country you prefer).
(http://0.tqn.com/d/politicalhumor/1/7/W/Y/3/Tea-Party-Racism.jpg)Its a bit more then a fringe like take the number of birthers in 2011
And if I remember correctly, there was controversy because John McCain was born in the Panama Canal zone.Yeah, about that, YOU'RE NOT REMEMBERING CORRECTLY!
Chester Arthur was accused of being Canadian. And if I remember correctly, there was controversy because John McCain was born in the Panama Canal zone.
Please show me where I claimed that the entire Tea Party -- or even all birthers -- are racists. All I did was point out that race is almost certainly a factor in the Obama birther movement gaining so much ground.I agree with that, and I'm sorry if I put words in your mouth.
There's a difference between white pride and ethnic pride. A lot of people seem to miss it.And the poor.
Along with that, a lot of people like to say 'nobody who is white has ever faced discrimination'. This is false on many levels: 1) You're erasing the LGBTQ white people and 2) You're erasing the fact that the Irish and sometimes the Italians are still discriminated against. And the fact that they were badly discriminated against back in the 19th and early 20th centuries. Hell, it was even considered oppression at the time (that icky word people like to over-define). 3) You're also ignoring the disabled white folks. Being white doesn't protect you from everyfuckingthing.
So, yeah. People need to learn the differences. Small, but important differences.
There's a difference between white pride and ethnic pride. A lot of people seem to miss it.
Along with that, a lot of people like to say 'nobody who is white has ever faced discrimination'. This is false on many levels: 1) You're erasing the LGBTQ white people and 2) You're erasing the fact that the Irish and sometimes the Italians are still discriminated against. And the fact that they were badly discriminated against back in the 19th and early 20th centuries. Hell, it was even considered oppression at the time (that icky word people like to over-define). 3) You're also ignoring the disabled white folks. Being white doesn't protect you from everyfuckingthing.
So, yeah. People need to learn the differences. Small, but important differences.
There's a difference between pride in one's own ethnicity (i.e., "Irish Pride"), which is fine as long as it doesn't degenerate into mindless nationalism, and pride in being White, which is actually a euphemism for white supremacy and has always been used by neo-Nazis and racist groups.
(Before someone brings it up, yes, "Black Pride" is different because unlike most White people in the United States, Black Americans who are descendants of slaves sadly cannot trace their ancestry the same way. "Black Pride" is generally also used as an expression against the racist idea that Black people should be ashamed of being Black, whereas White people face no such prejudice in America.)
THIS.
Seriously, there are pride festivals for several European ethnicities (St. Patrick's Day, Highland Games, Oktoberfest) that are widely celebrated and not controversial at all. The "White Pride is not racist" argument fails because there is no Grand Unified White Culture to celebrate.
There's a difference between white pride and ethnic pride. A lot of people seem to miss it.
Along with that, a lot of people like to say 'nobody who is white has ever faced discrimination'. This is false on many levels: 1) You're erasing the LGBTQ white people and 2) You're erasing the fact that the Irish and sometimes the Italians are still discriminated against. And the fact that they were badly discriminated against back in the 19th and early 20th centuries. Hell, it was even considered oppression at the time (that icky word people like to over-define). 3) You're also ignoring the disabled white folks. Being white doesn't protect you from everyfuckingthing.
So, yeah. People need to learn the differences. Small, but important differences.
No white person has ever faced systematic discrimination for that reason in the United States. Not one. White people may face persecution for other reasons; they are not victims of racism. Period.
There's a difference between white pride and ethnic pride. A lot of people seem to miss it.
Along with that, a lot of people like to say 'nobody who is white has ever faced discrimination'. This is false on many levels: 1) You're erasing the LGBTQ white people and 2) You're erasing the fact that the Irish and sometimes the Italians are still discriminated against. And the fact that they were badly discriminated against back in the 19th and early 20th centuries. Hell, it was even considered oppression at the time (that icky word people like to over-define). 3) You're also ignoring the disabled white folks. Being white doesn't protect you from everyfuckingthing.
So, yeah. People need to learn the differences. Small, but important differences.
No white person has ever faced systematic discrimination for that reason in the United States. Not one. White people may face persecution for other reasons; they are not victims of racism. Period.
You'll note I never once said it was either systematic or institutionalized. Nor did I say racism. I said prejudice/discrimination for a reason. It doesn't have to be systematic or institutionalized to count under the discrimination banner. Just being turned away from multiple places for being Italian is enough to be discrimination.
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mcvkxlaQMt1qbcevqo1_500.jpg)That's... nice, but alas, pretty naive.
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There's a difference between white pride and ethnic pride. A lot of people seem to miss it.
Along with that, a lot of people like to say 'nobody who is white has ever faced discrimination'. This is false on many levels: 1) You're erasing the LGBTQ white people and 2) You're erasing the fact that the Irish and sometimes the Italians are still discriminated against. And the fact that they were badly discriminated against back in the 19th and early 20th centuries. Hell, it was even considered oppression at the time (that icky word people like to over-define). 3) You're also ignoring the disabled white folks. Being white doesn't protect you from everyfuckingthing.
So, yeah. People need to learn the differences. Small, but important differences.
No white person has ever faced systematic discrimination for that reason in the United States. Not one. White people may face persecution for other reasons; they are not victims of racism. Period.
You'll note I never once said it was either systematic or institutionalized. Nor did I say racism. I said prejudice/discrimination for a reason. It doesn't have to be systematic or institutionalized to count under the discrimination banner. Just being turned away from multiple places for being Italian is enough to be discrimination.
Though, of course, not for being white.
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Ah yes the ol' 'if you're just nice to the people who are oppressing you then soon enough he will change his ways and you will no longer be oppressed!' thing.
It's neither. It's against soulless music that's more manufactured than created. Notice the "too many cooks spoil the broth" message.
Yeah, I think you're giving it too much credit. Its a popular belief that modern music is only lazy manufactured pop, while old music is better. Notice that every time one of these images pops up, its taking a modern pop song and comparing it to, usually, classic rock.I'm with you on that, to a point. However, it's been scientifically shown that music is getting more and more similar.
It is a valid criticism to say that pop music is often manufactured garbage, but this is a comparison of false equivalency.
Yeah, I think you're giving it too much credit. Its a popular belief that modern music is only lazy manufactured pop, while old music is better. Notice that every time one of these images pops up, its taking a modern pop song and comparing it to, usually, classic rock.I'm with you on that, to a point. However, it's been scientifically shown that music is getting more and more similar.
It is a valid criticism to say that pop music is often manufactured garbage, but this is a comparison of false equivalency.
No, it really doesn't. Historically speaking, pop music has always been lazy, recycled and manufactured. Modern pop music being slightly less creative than old pop music doesn't really mean anything as manufactured pop being uncreative is nothing new and means nothing. Do you know why we tend to not remember pop music from the 50s and 60s? Because people stopped caring about it when it stopped being relevant. The same thing will happen to modern pop music. Its a repeating cycle that just shows that pop music will only be remembered as long as its relevant.Oh, I didn't know that.
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Well, I can see it just fine. But I'll post an Imgur link.(http://patriotupdate.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/nuclear-panic-cartoon.jpg)
Broken link, dude.
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The bus.
Everybody hates the motherfucking things.
In all seriousness nuclear power doesn't produce H2O; internal combustion engines do.
There's a difference between white pride and ethnic pride. A lot of people seem to miss it.
Along with that, a lot of people like to say 'nobody who is white has ever faced discrimination'. This is false on many levels: 1) You're erasing the LGBTQ white people and 2) You're erasing the fact that the Irish and sometimes the Italians are still discriminated against. And the fact that they were badly discriminated against back in the 19th and early 20th centuries. Hell, it was even considered oppression at the time (that icky word people like to over-define). 3) You're also ignoring the disabled white folks. Being white doesn't protect you from everyfuckingthing.
So, yeah. People need to learn the differences. Small, but important differences.
No white person has ever faced systematic discrimination for that reason in the United States. Not one. White people may face persecution for other reasons; they are not victims of racism. Period.
You'll note I never once said it was either systematic or institutionalized. Nor did I say racism. I said prejudice/discrimination for a reason. It doesn't have to be systematic or institutionalized to count under the discrimination banner. Just being turned away from multiple places for being Italian is enough to be discrimination.
Though, of course, not for being white.
At this point you're justsaying superfluous things.
There's a difference between white pride and ethnic pride. A lot of people seem to miss it.
Along with that, a lot of people like to say 'nobody who is white has ever faced discrimination'. This is false on many levels: 1) You're erasing the LGBTQ white people and 2) You're erasing the fact that the Irish and sometimes the Italians are still discriminated against. And the fact that they were badly discriminated against back in the 19th and early 20th centuries. Hell, it was even considered oppression at the time (that icky word people like to over-define). 3) You're also ignoring the disabled white folks. Being white doesn't protect you from everyfuckingthing.
So, yeah. People need to learn the differences. Small, but important differences.
No white person has ever faced systematic discrimination for that reason in the United States. Not one. White people may face persecution for other reasons; they are not victims of racism. Period.
You'll note I never once said it was either systematic or institutionalized. Nor did I say racism. I said prejudice/discrimination for a reason. It doesn't have to be systematic or institutionalized to count under the discrimination banner. Just being turned away from multiple places for being Italian is enough to be discrimination.
Though, of course, not for being white.
At this point you're justsaying superfluous things.
/ hammering home the fundamental point. White people do not and have never faced racial discrimination in the US. People considered non-white (Irish, Italian, Finnish) certainly have, and some white people have faced discrimination for other reason, but not because they were white.
In the 19th Century the Irish were considered racially distinct from Anglo-Saxons. They were also considered an inferiour race. There were many psuedo-scientific books spouting off about their tendency for violence and alcholism and their inability to learn.
The problem in this thread is linguistic, that is white is being used to indicate Anglo-Saxon, when in fact White is much broader than simply Anglo-Saxon. It is similar to saying Asian (or even Chinese) when referring to the Han ethnic group.
Anyway I will let you crackers continue talking across each other.
I assumed that Fred was talking about the entire history of the USA given that he said - no person ever in the history of the USA.
but eating isn't necessarily unpleasant. It might be a metaphor for the incorporation of crackers into us all...or I like pictures of salty biscuits.
There's a difference between white pride and ethnic pride. A lot of people seem to miss it.
Along with that, a lot of people like to say 'nobody who is white has ever faced discrimination'. This is false on many levels: 1) You're erasing the LGBTQ white people and 2) You're erasing the fact that the Irish and sometimes the Italians are still discriminated against. And the fact that they were badly discriminated against back in the 19th and early 20th centuries. Hell, it was even considered oppression at the time (that icky word people like to over-define). 3) You're also ignoring the disabled white folks. Being white doesn't protect you from everyfuckingthing.
So, yeah. People need to learn the differences. Small, but important differences.
No white person has ever faced systematic discrimination for that reason in the United States. Not one. White people may face persecution for other reasons; they are not victims of racism. Period.
You'll note I never once said it was either systematic or institutionalized. Nor did I say racism. I said prejudice/discrimination for a reason. It doesn't have to be systematic or institutionalized to count under the discrimination banner. Just being turned away from multiple places for being Italian is enough to be discrimination.
Though, of course, not for being white.
At this point you're justsaying superfluous things.
/ hammering home the fundamental point. White people do not and have never faced racial discrimination in the US. People considered non-white (Irish, Italian, Finnish) certainly have, and some white people have faced discrimination for other reason, but not because they were white.
Irish aren't considered white? Weird when the only people with whiter skin are probably in Scotland and Scandanavia lol.
I assumed that Fred was talking about the entire history of the USA given that he said - no person ever in the history of the USA.
But then again you will have to ask Fred about that - I mean that cracker is an enigma, wrapped in a mystery, surrounded by (continuing I suspect) post modern undergratuate bachelor of arts studies with a major in political science...
There's a difference between white pride and ethnic pride. A lot of people seem to miss it.
Along with that, a lot of people like to say 'nobody who is white has ever faced discrimination'. This is false on many levels: 1) You're erasing the LGBTQ white people and 2) You're erasing the fact that the Irish and sometimes the Italians are still discriminated against. And the fact that they were badly discriminated against back in the 19th and early 20th centuries. Hell, it was even considered oppression at the time (that icky word people like to over-define). 3) You're also ignoring the disabled white folks. Being white doesn't protect you from everyfuckingthing.
So, yeah. People need to learn the differences. Small, but important differences.
No white person has ever faced systematic discrimination for that reason in the United States. Not one. White people may face persecution for other reasons; they are not victims of racism. Period.
You'll note I never once said it was either systematic or institutionalized. Nor did I say racism. I said prejudice/discrimination for a reason. It doesn't have to be systematic or institutionalized to count under the discrimination banner. Just being turned away from multiple places for being Italian is enough to be discrimination.
Though, of course, not for being white.
At this point you're justsaying superfluous things.
/ hammering home the fundamental point. White people do not and have never faced racial discrimination in the US. People considered non-white (Irish, Italian, Finnish) certainly have, and some white people have faced discrimination for other reason, but not because they were white.
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Ah yes the ol' 'if you're just nice to the people who are oppressing you then soon enough he will change his ways and you will no longer be oppressed!' thing.
Alternatively: If two groups have a disagreement the one that merely shouts and acts agressively at the other is not likely to convert anyone to their cause, while the group that acts calm and extends the olive branch just might. Even if it is slow, even if only few people learn to respect the other group or join the other side of view it is still progress.
I mean that comic might be about opression but it might as well be about wether or not you put the cheese or cucumber on the top of sandwich. If group A only shouts about how their view is the only TRUE view it is unlikely to convert the other side. (Though judging from the fact that the other side starts with being in the minority the comic might be particularly about opression. Otherwise it could have started with two similarly sized groups. Or maybe that would have required too much drawing.)
I'm not sure where you are getting racism from.(http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/224/516/tumblr_lwsydvEtgG1r7rxb8o1_1280.jpg)
I think the "message" is actually racist, as much as age-ist. And it is invalid to compare songs from disparate genres and eras.
The thing is many people are worried and seeing as Japan fucked it up that their power corps couldn't handle it
That too unless maybe you have a really good breeder reactor
I think the "message" is actually racist, as much as age-ist. And it is invalid to compare songs from disparate genres and eras.I'm not sure where you are getting racism from.
I think the "message" is actually racist, as much as age-ist. And it is invalid to compare songs from disparate genres and eras.I'm not sure where you are getting racism from.
Well Beyonce is black while Freddie Mercury is Indian but was often mistaken as white, so this might be implicating that Beyonce's song is... Dumber because she is black (and possibly others who worked on the song as well.)
Then again, I think it could be just another complaint about how "modern" music is stupid and simple. Which is blatantly false as there have been simple silly songs since the creation of music and you'd find similar examples of complexity and quality from any era and genre.
I think the "message" is actually racist, as much as age-ist. And it is invalid to compare songs from disparate genres and eras.I'm not sure where you are getting racism from.
Well Beyonce is black while Freddie Mercury is Indian but was often mistaken as white, so this might be implicating that Beyonce's song is... Dumber because she is black (and possibly others who worked on the song as well.)
Then again, I think it could be just another complaint about how "modern" music is stupid and simple. Which is blatantly false as there have been simple silly songs since the creation of music and you'd find similar examples of complexity and quality from any era and genre.
(as much as I like Queen), I think they're overrated as fucking hell.
If somebody thinks Busta Rhymes is a better rapper than Vanilla Ice, is he racist against white people? No. So why do you say musical preferences are indicative of racism?
If somebody thinks Busta Rhymes is a better rapper than Vanilla Ice, is he racist against white people? No. So why do you say musical preferences are indicative of racism?
But when you consistently say every such and such black artist is always worse than such and such white artist as mater of fact then yes it's probably racist as it usually stems from the idea that black music is inferior to white music. What part of "context" did you not understand? It's one thing to say x suck in comparison to y it's another to sweepingly say all things related to x are inferior to y.
If somebody thinks Busta Rhymes is a better rapper than Vanilla Ice, is he racist against white people? No. So why do you say musical preferences are indicative of racism?
But when you consistently say every such and such black artist is always worse than such and such white artist as mater of fact then yes it's probably racist as it usually stems from the idea that black music is inferior to white music. What part of "context" did you not understand? It's one thing to say x suck in comparison to y it's another to sweepingly say all things related to x are inferior to y.
Remind me again where there was consistent degradation of black artists in comparison to white artists anywhere in this thread. I think we're starting to get off topic.
I've noticed with music black guys do t first then white people do it and get all the creditThat used to be the case. Then rap happened.
I've noticed with music black guys do t first then white people do it and get all the credit
Yeah, I'm fairly certain people hate Kanye because he's an egomaniacal douche, not because he's black. Also, Macklemore IS pretty groundbreaking in the mainstream because mainstream rap tends to be little more than brag tracks and party songs. Is he groundbreaking in general? No, but he's still more creative than most of the stuff that hits the mainstream.
I mean fuck, Kanye West is actually a pretty damn good musician,
I mean fuck, Kanye West is actually a pretty damn good musician,
Yeah but It's hard for people to hear that through all the fucking autotune. Either that or Kanye is in fact a robot, he certainly sounds like one on his records.
Loads of talented musicians (probably most actually) use autotune too for vaious reasons, but not usually to the extreme where it causes aural hemorrhaging. Kanye might be a good singer and musician; if he is it'd be nice to be able to hear it.
Skinniest polar bear I ever saw :'(I don't know whether to blame Global Warming for that.
They depend on huge areas of intact sea ice to hunt seal pups, their staple prey. No ice, no way to catch pups. The freeze/thaw cycle distribution of Arctic ice has been dramatically changing in just the last few years. Lots of documentaries and study results for you to look at all over the 'net, UP. And several documentaries specifically about polar bears being affected.
I'm a fan of polar bears. Believe me, that's a malnourished bear.Okay, I'll take your word for it.
Not sure about this one, but ...
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Not sure about this one, but ...
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Eh.
Am I the only one bothered about how often "Best Political Cartoons" just ends up being "Political Cartoons We Agree With"? I mean, the message is correct and all, but I don't find the cartoon itself particularly clever, funny or well made.
Same here. I see a lot of political cartoons I agree with, but they aren't necessarily well-crafted cartoons.
The big thing could just toss the Bieber-head out of the window.
What does the window represent? Mexico? The Pacific? Am I reading too much into this? (yes)North Korea.
I'm pretty sure that if there's one thing you could do to start a war with NK, it'd be to send Bieber there.What does the window represent? Mexico? The Pacific? Am I reading too much into this? (yes)North Korea.
I think the "message" is actually racist, as much as age-ist. And it is invalid to compare songs from disparate genres and eras.I'm not sure where you are getting racism from.
Well Beyonce is black while Freddie Mercury is Indian but was often mistaken as white, so this might be implicating that Beyonce's song is... Dumber because she is black (and possibly others who worked on the song as well.)
Then again, I think it could be just another complaint about how "modern" music is stupid and simple. Which is blatantly false as there have been simple silly songs since the creation of music and you'd find similar examples of complexity and quality from any era and genre.
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Yeah, I'm fairly certain people hate Kanye because he's an egomaniacal douche, not because he's black. Also, Macklemore IS pretty groundbreaking in the mainstream because mainstream rap tends to be little more than brag tracks and party songs. Is he groundbreaking in general? No, but he's still more creative than most of the stuff that hits the mainstream.
Tupac, Biggie, Eminem (who makes the opposite of brag tracks because he's always said he just wants to be a rapper that that is all he is), Atmosphere (depending on how we define mainstream), Hollywood Undead (depending on how you feel about some of their harder hitting tracks and the fact they aren't 'pure' hip hop/rap)
Macklemore isn't groundbreaking in any way. He's just considered that cause he thought he was gay cause he could draw. And the insinuation that all modern rap is about 'fucking hoes' and 'getting da benjamins' is ignoring a good part of rap. And racist besides.
While Macklemore is getting credit, people like Azealia Banks are being blatantly ignored even though she's a bisexual female who raps better than Macklemore. And yes, I am aware of the slur controversy with Azealia but that isn't the point.
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Too bad it's a ridiculous strawman.It's a political cartoon, of course they use ridiculous strawmen.
It would be making something of a good point if it had a dozen panels before it of the poodle beating the crap out of the Generic Male Dog, verbally abusing him, controlling him, and the GMD being too embarrassed or scared to do anything about it because he's afraid police won't take him seriously. Because that often IS how domestic abuse against men goes--they don;t report it out of fear of being ridiculed or not believed, or both.Yes, it is. It's an atrocious double standard, and one of the reasons I sympathize with progressive masculists (not MRAs, though, because thanks to some on this site, I've learned that they're the masculist equivalent of radfems).
I honestly have no idea how common it is for, say, a man to call the cops on his female partner for domestic violence and then the man get carted away for it because she broke her hand punching him in the face or something like that--I'm sure it DOES happen, and I think there are a few places where by default the man gets taken to the station when domestic violence complaints come through, but I seriously doubt it happens very much.Actually, it happens more often than you think. I've read that in many states, police procedure is to arrest the one who seems to be more of a threat, which is usually the man.
Comedian Chris Titus has a routine about it in his 'Norman Rockwell is Bleeding' special, but that's not exactly a reliable source. I'd be interested to read the documentation about this, as well.
It's covered in the book Abused Men: The Hidden Side of Domestic Violence.
I'll try to find something.It's covered in the book Abused Men: The Hidden Side of Domestic Violence.
Nice
Ironbite-got anything online we can check out ourselves to cite?
Also seeeing as the cartoonist wants to repeal the 19th amendmentI get the feeling that he wants to be able to beat up womenThat seems likely, given that the duo behind this are a pair of misogynistic pricks. But that doesn't mean they don't have a point.
I'll try to find something.
Also seeeing as the cartoonist wants to repeal the 19th amendmentI get the feeling that he wants to be able to beat up womenThat seems likely, given that the duo behind this are a pair of misogynistic pricks. But that doesn't mean they don't have a point.
My boything has a phrase he uses a lot: even a blind hog finds an acorn now and then.I've heard the same, but with squirrels ^^.
Well at least the woman on the left has the freedom to wear what she wants. She isn't forced to wear a bikini and won't be stoned in the street if she doesn't do so.Not all women in burqas are forced to wear them. That's an Islamophobic misconception.
At least some of them are, that's the point. Once that's the case, it gets hard to really decide when one wears them by choice or because they are forced to.Well at least the woman on the left has the freedom to wear what she wants. She isn't forced to wear a bikini and won't be stoned in the street if she doesn't do so.Not all women in burqas are forced to wear them. That's an Islamophobic misconception.
for once paragon is right in france women are forced to not wear a niqabThere isn't really a law against niqab per se, it's more that it's forbidden to hide one's face in public places, or to wear ostentatious religious garments in schools and mairies and whatnot.
that's not a burqa btw stop calling it that
that doesn't really make the law pro islam also almost no nations have a niqab mandateWhy would you need pro-islam laws in a secular country? As long as they aren't anti-islam, what's the big deal? (and no, they really aren't anti-islam as written. True, the law might be abused because case of people wearing carnival masks don't lead to a police intervention while people marching with niqab might, but that's not a problem with the letter of the law in and of itself.)
You have a point. Parade regulations were often used against civil rights marchers.It's pretty hard to be sure. There have certainly been people saying that here in France, but others are defending the law saying that no religion should be allowed to be visible in public, and since staying visibly secular is a big thing in french politics (to the point that every time a political movement eyes our equivalent of the religious right the presse goes into an uproar), it's a bit hard to tell who's right and who's wrong.
On the other hand, I'm pretty damn sure this law was specifically targeted at Muslims.
Though, I do find it somewhat ironic that a country most stereotypically known for an abundance of extreme promiscuity has moronic dress code laws.Dress codes laws that forbid you from having too much clothing, though ;).
You know what they say about a stopped clock being right twice a day?I would have just stabbed that stupid dog, but blunt trauma works as well.
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Well, even Lone Nut Comics makes a good point now and again. Aside from the sexist joke in the last panel, this does a good job of pointing out the domestic violence double standard.
That was only the first of many blows.They could have conveyed that better.
Heck "Bowser Von Mustache" doesn't seem to care or react when "Fifi L'Pompompoodelle" bonks him with a frying pan. He just calmly sits there, looking posh, snooty, bored & aloof.I love those names! I'm going to call them those from now on.
What would happen if we made a horror movie about shitting in mouths said a guy high as a kiteThat's probably not far off the mark.
Which I bet was made while stoned.What would happen if we made a horror movie about shitting in mouths said a guy high as a kiteThat's probably not far off the mark.
Actually, the idea for the film came from a joke about punishing child molesters by stitching their mouth to the anus of truck driver.
Why do artists not get that spines don't work that way
Why do artists not get that spines don't work that way
Heck "Bowser Von Mustache" doesn't seem to care or react when "Fifi L'Pompompoodelle" bonks him with a frying pan. He just calmly sits there, looking posh, snooty, bored & aloof.I love those names! I'm going to call them those from now on.
Cool, thanks!
What would happen if we made a horror movie about shitting in mouths said a guy high as a kiteThat's probably not far off the mark.
Actually, the idea for the film came from a joke about punishing child molesters by stitching their mouth to the anus of truck driver.
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(http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/450/709/14b.jpg)That one could be even greater of Black Widow (the one woman in the pic, I think that's her name) would be the same, unmodified. She already is in a T&A pose.
They're making a point. Ever hear of the Hawkeye Initiative?(http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/450/709/14b.jpg)That one could be even greater of Black Widow (the one woman in the pic, I think that's her name) would be the same, unmodified. She already is in a T&A pose.
I realize that, and yes. I'm saying the point would be even better made if BW would stay unmodified.They're making a point. Ever hear of the Hawkeye Initiative?[img]http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/450/709/14b.jpg[img]That one could be even greater of Black Widow (the one woman in the pic, I think that's her name) would be the same, unmodified. She already is in a T&A pose.
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There are a lot of things I disagree with the Tea Party about, but painting it as a racist organization is just disingenuous.
For the last time all republicans vote the same same same on the federal levelAnd you accuse them of stereotyping and generalizing. Shiny mirror you've got there.
Look at the voting records they are super lockstep ::)Except when they're not. For example, some Republicans supported going to war in Syria, while others didn't
Look at the voting records they are super lockstep ::)Except when they're not. For example, some Republicans supported going to war in Syria, while others didn't
Yes, it is. Which is why I try to avoid that. For future reference, if you ever think I'm doing that, feel free to call me on it.Look at the voting records they are super lockstep ::)Except when they're not. For example, some Republicans supported going to war in Syria, while others didn't
It's easier to write off people if you just put them into a monolithic block.
For the last time all republicans vote the same same same on the federal levelUm.. The GOP is not identical to the Tea Party.
*puts car in a compactor and hits the switch*
Ironbite-feel better now that you've been cubed?
*puts car in a compactor and hits the switch*
Ironbite-feel better now that you've been cubed?
Not cool, dude.
its more of since im actually a poli sci major and I know voting records that it seems like my expertise is ignored
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Should have used the NSA one, but I think I posted that one months ago.(http://i.imgur.com/QVyFWQR.png)
This would probably go better in the funny/stupid pictures thread. Funny though this comic may be, I really don't think it counts as "political."
Well, that comic is about the controversy surrounding the mobile version of Dungeon keeper. Basically, when they ask you to rate the game you get two options: 5 stars or a button that says 1-4 stars. But if you click the latter it opens up a page that asks you why on Earth aren't you satisfied and you have to send an email to the developers first to be able to give anything less than 5 star review.Should have used the NSA one, but I think I posted that one months ago.*Snip*
This would probably go better in the funny/stupid pictures thread. Funny though this comic may be, I really don't think it counts as "political."
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....what?Basically, it's comparing the "persecution" exotic pet owners go through to the human rights abuses against political dissidents in Burma.
That....makes no....sense.It's a contrast to show "first world privilege".
Ironbite-*blows up the world*
I suppose it sounds a little to close to if you can vote you're not oppressedIt was just saying to keep things in perspective, kef.
I... wasn't aware of that. Dear lords. How can you be so successfull and yet so fucking stupid?(http://l2.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/7Q0BYvafImqRLP77YtZTfg--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7Zmk9ZmlsbDtoPTM1OTtweW9mZj0wO3E9NzU7dz01MDA-/http://media.zenfs.com/en_us/News/ucomics.com/bor140130.gif)Huh?
...Haven't you noticed how people use the word holocaust to refer to whatever mistreatment they feel they have suffered?
The comic refers to this case I think: http://www.businessinsider.com/tom-perkins-nazi-email-2014-1
He really feels that what the Occupy movements is doing to billionaires is identical to what the nazis did to the jews.
Speaking of...I read Sandra and Woo.
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....what?Basically, it's comparing the "persecution" exotic pet owners go through to the human rights abuses against political dissidents in Burma.
Speaking of...I read Sandra and Woo.
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Why am i mentioning this?
Feral, it sounds like irresponsible exotic pet ownership pisses you off. If someone has the time, money, and know-how to appropriately care for an exotic animal, I say they can knock themselves out. Besides, many animals live significantly longer in captivity than they do in the wild, and education programs aren't out of the question just because an animal is hybridized.
Education, sure, but not conservation. I don't think that someone who isn't part of an actual conservation/research/educational program should own wildlife. No pets, no entertainment. The entire 'pet wildlife' industry (from trappers to breeders to buyers) is irresponsible- and it's not just PETA freaks saying that. Biologists, ecologists, and other experts point out the damage caused to local ecosystems (Examples: population decline in rainforests as a direct result of the pet trade, and Florida's ongoing problems with introduced species like pythons), the introduced diseases, breeding mills for the ~20% or so animals that weren't caught in the wild, the huge percentage (as high as 90% depending on species) of animals that end up dead during transport, the lack of regulation, all before we even get into the common problems in private ownership situations or the entertainment industry. That a few animals have managed to live longer in captivity just means they are the lucky ones.
Here we go again! Take it to the Flame & Burn section!Who do you see as trolling or flaming? There is discussion going on, myself and feral are quite well versed in the topic of wild animal ownership issues, and both of us offered counter arguments (as in civil, calm, knowledge-based debate arguments) to Dongy's civil, calm argument in defense of "responsible exotic pet owners", which neither of us see as a realistic standpoint, but also neither feral or myself cast any aspersion or derision towards Dongy, at all. Please, Spuki, re-read that section of the threads. No one was making any personal attacks there.
http://fqa.digibase.ca/index.php?board=12.0
Now, there will be no more flame wars, only Best Political Cartoons.
The same holds true for the Worst Political Cartoons.
Quit flaming & trolling and stick with cartoon-posting! *SHEESH!*
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Orwell and Huxley: They were both right.In different ways, yes.
Here we go again! Take it to the Flame & Burn section!
http://fqa.digibase.ca/index.php?board=12.0
Now, there will be no more flame wars, only Best Political Cartoons.
The same holds true for the Worst Political Cartoons.
Quit flaming & trolling and stick with cartoon-posting! *SHEESH!*
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I'd argue that you're not helping the situation with your gigantic capitalized text, ironbite. You're not really a mod either. Also, I realize that me calling you out on that could almost be considered hypocritical.You've been here much longer than I have, Jack, so I'd like to ask you a question. Was Ironbite always an asshole, or is this just a recent development?
I'd argue that you're not helping the situation with your gigantic capitalized text, ironbite. You're not really a mod either. Also, I realize that me calling you out on that could almost be considered hypocritical.You've been here much longer than I have, Jack, so I'd like to ask you a question. Was Ironbite always an asshole, or is this just a recent development?
Here we go again! Take it to the Flame & Burn section!
http://fqa.digibase.ca/index.php?board=12.0
Now, there will be no more flame wars, only Best Political Cartoons.
The same holds true for the Worst Political Cartoons.
Quit flaming & trolling and stick with cartoon-posting! *SHEESH!*
^This.Here we go again! Take it to the Flame & Burn section!
http://fqa.digibase.ca/index.php?board=12.0
Now, there will be no more flame wars, only Best Political Cartoons.
The same holds true for the Worst Political Cartoons.
Quit flaming & trolling and stick with cartoon-posting! *SHEESH!*
Debates have always been a part of this forum, and have often resulted in some of the best discussions we've had. F&B is generally only for the ones thats get way out of hand or for call-out threads.
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That said, they were both right; Orwell was just right for a place where you and I don't live.
DOCTAH! Oi, space man, you're needed here!
I was ringing you up because of the squabble between Spunki and Capt. Jack over who is and isn't a mod, but it seems to have fizzled out. While you're here, care for a cuppa? The kettle's just boiled.DOCTAH! Oi, space man, you're needed here!
Mmmmmmn... Not just yet. As long as what's being argued about is pertaining to a particular political cartoon, it should be okay. Too many posts dedicated to it however, and I'll have to ask that it be taken to its own thread.
Oh yeah, and "Oi! earth girl! ... Guy!"
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That said, they were both right; Orwell was just right for a place where you and I don't live.
The thing is, both approaches are not mutually exclusive. You can both attempt to hide the truth while drowning out what little that manages to slip past the censors with trivialities. Both happen on a regular basis in just about all countries to lesser or greater degrees.
I'd argue that you're not helping the situation with your gigantic capitalized text, ironbite. You're not really a mod either. Also, I realize that me calling you out on that could almost be considered hypocritical.You've been here much longer than I have, Jack, so I'd like to ask you a question. Was Ironbite always an asshole, or is this just a recent development?
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I find it ironic that you, a libertarian, are pointing out the threat of a Brave New World style dystopia. The Western world's entertainment industry is an almost exclusively private sector. Its uncontrollable growth in prosperous countries is very much a feature of capitalism, not the result of any kind of state intervention. In fact, I can't imagine any concrete way to curtail it that doesn't involve giving the government even more control over our lives.
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Didn't someone here post proof that One million Moms is nothing more than a dozen old men anyway?
I know. I was pleasantly surprised.Fucking truth. Plus one billion.
It's kind of an unusual message for a Polandball comic too, seeing as many of them can be quite racist, sexist, anti-Semitic, etc. I remember it got to the point where "Anschluss" rape jokes (basically comparing Nazi Germany's land-grabs with rape) had to be banned for a while on r/polandball.
Well, they say that a broken clock is correct once a day.Not exactly. They say a stopped clock is right twice a day, but that's just me being anal.
Well, it depends on whether or not your clock uses 12-hour time or 24-hour time.
Well, it depends on whether or not your clock uses 12-hour time or 24-hour time.
...If the broken clock uses 24-hour time it is probably digital in which case it either does not display any numbers or maybe blinks 0:00 or something. That would make it right once per day.
Now do your Woody Allen impression.Well, it depends on whether or not your clock uses 12-hour time or 24-hour time.
...If the broken clock uses 24-hour time it is probably digital in which case it either does not display any numbers or maybe blinks 0:00 or something. That would make it right once per day.
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Well, they say that a broken clock is correct once a day.Not exactly. They say a stopped clock is right twice a day, but that's just me being anal.
On the other hand, a clock one minute fast is never correct.
It's okay. And you're welcome.Well, they say that a broken clock is correct once a day.Not exactly. They say a stopped clock is right twice a day, but that's just me being anal.
On the other hand, a clock one minute fast is never correct.
Sorry about getting the saying wrong. I had a brain fart. But the gist stands. Thanks. ;)
(http://www.leftycartoons.com/wp-content/uploads/nestle_hirez.png)I did a quick google search on nestle and, yeah that's some fucked up shit.
The prick wants to end government management of waterWait, really, WTF?
he wants it privatized and that water is not a human rightWait, the comic has an anti-business message, if he's an Ayn Rand fucker then wouldn't he think companies killing people for money is A OK?
Yeah, Kef, I have no clue where you got that from. Care to enlighten us?he wants it privatized and that water is not a human rightWait, the comic has an anti-business message, if he's an Ayn Rand fucker then wouldn't he think companies killing people for money is A OK?
I was actually asking that question out of legit confusion.Yeah, Kef, I have no clue where you got that from. Care to enlighten us?he wants it privatized and that water is not a human right...if he's an Ayn Rand fucker then wouldn't he think companies killing people for money is A OK?
So was I.I was actually asking that question out of legit confusion.Yeah, Kef, I have no clue where you got that from. Care to enlighten us?he wants it privatized and that water is not a human right...if he's an Ayn Rand fucker then wouldn't he think companies killing people for money is A OK?
I have no prior knowledge of the writers of the comic.
I said that encase this turns into a flame war.So was I.I was actually asking that question out of legit confusion.Yeah, Kef, I have no clue where you got that from. Care to enlighten us?he wants it privatized and that water is not a human right...if he's an Ayn Rand fucker then wouldn't he think companies killing people for money is A OK?
I have no prior knowledge of the writers of the comic.
Taking precautions against that is fine by me.I said that encase this turns into a flame war.So was I.I was actually asking that question out of legit confusion.Yeah, Kef, I have no clue where you got that from. Care to enlighten us?he wants it privatized and that water is not a human right...if he's an Ayn Rand fucker then wouldn't he think companies killing people for money is A OK?
I have no prior knowledge of the writers of the comic.
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/t1/1795701_498379540268164_510452292_n.jpg)Truth. So much.
yeah he backtracked but he's so pissed that people don't use it exclusively for drinking and bathingDamn, why'd he backtrack?
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I don't want my children to see somebody eating a different sub!
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I don't want my children to see somebody eating a different sub!
They might try that abhorrent meatball sub instead of the good, God-fearing turkey club!
Fucking sick. Scott Lively gets my vote for the most despicable human being.I don't know. But if somebody killed him, I'd call for the killer to be pardoned.
How does this one person have so much influence over human rights policies in foreign countries?
Fucking sick. Scott Lively gets my vote for the most despicable human being.I don't know. But if somebody killed him, I'd call for the killer to be pardoned.
How does this one person have so much influence over human rights policies in foreign countries?
Fucking sick. Scott Lively gets my vote for the most despicable human being.I don't know. But if somebody killed him, I'd call for the killer to be pardoned.
How does this one person have so much influence over human rights policies in foreign countries?
Pardoned? I'd give him a medal and a thousand of the world's cleanest, finest hookers...and enough good food to sink an aircraft carrier.
Fucking sick. Scott Lively gets my vote for the most despicable human being.I don't know. But if somebody killed him, I'd call for the killer to be pardoned.
How does this one person have so much influence over human rights policies in foreign countries?
Pardoned? I'd give him a medal and a thousand of the world's cleanest, finest hookers...and enough good food to sink an aircraft carrier.
Can you actually give away all that?
Cuz if so... time to kill Lively!
All for having Scott fed to wild Komodo Dragons say Aye!
I don't really have a problem with "Chiefs" or "Warriors" or "Braves," to be honest. That's not too different from calling one's team the "Spartans" or "ninjas" or evoking some other warrior culture.Agreed on both counts.
"Indians" and "Redskins" though really are offensive, especially the latter.
All for having Scott fed to wild Komodo Dragons say Aye!
At least with a team like the Florida Seminoles, it's named after a specific tribe of native American's and not addressing the color of their skin.Well, that depends. If the Seminoles are fine with it, then so am I. If not, then I think they ought to change it.
At least with a team like the Florida Seminoles, it's named after a specific tribe of native American's and not addressing the color of their skin.Well, that depends. If the Seminoles are fine with it, then so am I. If not, then I think they ought to change it.
I think that might be a good idea.At least with a team like the Florida Seminoles, it's named after a specific tribe of native American's and not addressing the color of their skin.Well, that depends. If the Seminoles are fine with it, then so am I. If not, then I think they ought to change it.
They are fine with it. A lot of people have suggested the Redskins make a similar deal with a local tribe. Maybe the Washington Potomacs?
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I think that might be a good idea.At least with a team like the Florida Seminoles, it's named after a specific tribe of native American's and not addressing the color of their skin.Well, that depends. If the Seminoles are fine with it, then so am I. If not, then I think they ought to change it.
They are fine with it. A lot of people have suggested the Redskins make a similar deal with a local tribe. Maybe the Washington Potomacs?
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I suppose it's a self fueling cycle of violence.
Who the hell is a "rightful owner"? I'd like to see Libertarians square the ethics of private property, not to mention the several advantages afforded to all of us by the public domain, before they take it as an axiom that they need to get their land back from the ebil gub'ment.
EDIT: That map just screams, "The GOP is losing more and more statewide elections, so let's redraw the states!"
Who the hell is a "rightful owner"? I'd like to see Libertarians square the ethics of private property, not to mention the several advantages afforded to all of us by the public domain, before they take it as an axiom that they need to get their land back from the ebil gub'ment.
EDIT: That map just screams, "The GOP is losing more and more statewide elections, so let's redraw the states!"
To me, it's screaming "taking the Libertarians idea to it's logical conclusion" and giving it back to the IndigAmericans.
(http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/aeN29Yq_700b_v2.jpg)
(http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/aeN29Yq_700b_v2.jpg)God prefers pretty cool atheist to christian douchebags.
I agree.(http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/aeN29Yq_700b_v2.jpg)God prefers pretty cool atheist to christian douchebags.
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-ooKpgTbVah4/Tz6oTwWth4I/AAAAAAAAA4Y/jthYvyQOWuo/s1600/cartoonwest.jpg)
For a member of the WBC, obscurity would be a fate worse than death.
(http://blogs.thetimes-tribune.com/johncole/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/030511newcoletoon.jpg)
That it's obvious that they're covered by the First Amendment.And that Phelps has no brains...
(http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/720/247/d5d.jpg)The dude's face in the first panel just makes it.
(http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/720/247/d5d.jpg)He says 'Food Fight' in the original (http://www.pbfcomics.com/182/), but this remake is not less funny. :D
(http://media.cagle.com/53/2014/03/19/145968_600.jpg)
Dog breeding is essentially the perfect rebuttal to any argument against "race-mixing".(http://media.cagle.com/53/2014/03/19/145968_600.jpg)
Then take into account the likely higher medical bills for the purebred over the mutt.
Dog breeding is essentially the perfect rebuttal to any argument against "race-mixing".This implies that the other person has at least a basic understanding of genetics.
(http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/720/247/d5d.jpg)He says 'Food Fight' in the original (http://www.pbfcomics.com/182/), but this remake is not less funny. :D
(http://i.imgur.com/VdUcmiu.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/muJoZ.gif)
Which is funny, cus his outlook on life is polar opposite of Calvin's.(http://i.imgur.com/muJoZ.gif)
The artist of this cartoon stole Bill Watterson's artwork style. lol
Note how the shoveler looks like an adult Calvin.
Which is funny, cus his outlook on life is polar opposite of Calvin's.(http://i.imgur.com/muJoZ.gif)
The artist of this cartoon stole Bill Watterson's artwork style. lol
Note how the shoveler looks like an adult Calvin.
That's the kid, the adult in the strip is... ah, no one but me and OP reads the strip, do they?Which is funny, cus his outlook on life is polar opposite of Calvin's.(http://i.imgur.com/muJoZ.gif)
The artist of this cartoon stole Bill Watterson's artwork style. lol
Note how the shoveler looks like an adult Calvin.
How? Calvin may have been cynical and loved sarcasm but isn't that kids "rebellion" against the teacher and self thinking attitude something that he also had as a kid so seeing the kid do that would have probably made adult Calvin happy.
You misunderstood me. I meant that what that kid did would probably make Calvin happy, and therefore the snowshoveler's reaction was not off from how I assume adult Calvin would react to that situation.That's the kid, the adult in the strip is... ah, no one but me and OP reads the strip, do they?Which is funny, cus his outlook on life is polar opposite of Calvin's.(http://i.imgur.com/muJoZ.gif)
The artist of this cartoon stole Bill Watterson's artwork style. lol
Note how the shoveler looks like an adult Calvin.
How? Calvin may have been cynical and loved sarcasm but isn't that kids "rebellion" against the teacher and self thinking attitude something that he also had as a kid so seeing the kid do that would have probably made adult Calvin happy.
I was referring to the shoveler though.You misunderstood me. I meant that what that kid did would probably make Calvin happy, and therefore the snowshoveler's reaction was not off from how I assume adult Calvin would react to that situation.That's the kid, the adult in the strip is... ah, no one but me and OP reads the strip, do they?Which is funny, cus his outlook on life is polar opposite of Calvin's.(http://i.imgur.com/muJoZ.gif)
The artist of this cartoon stole Bill Watterson's artwork style. lol
Note how the shoveler looks like an adult Calvin.
How? Calvin may have been cynical and loved sarcasm but isn't that kids "rebellion" against the teacher and self thinking attitude something that he also had as a kid so seeing the kid do that would have probably made adult Calvin happy.
Can you two nerds stop speaking in placeholders and tell us what this strip is called, so we ignorant people can look it up? Cause now I'm interested.I was referring to the shoveler though.You misunderstood me. I meant that what that kid did would probably make Calvin happy, and therefore the snowshoveler's reaction was not off from how I assume adult Calvin would react to that situation.That's the kid, the adult in the strip is... ah, no one but me and OP reads the strip, do they?Which is funny, cus his outlook on life is polar opposite of Calvin's.(http://i.imgur.com/muJoZ.gif)
The artist of this cartoon stole Bill Watterson's artwork style. lol
Note how the shoveler looks like an adult Calvin.
How? Calvin may have been cynical and loved sarcasm but isn't that kids "rebellion" against the teacher and self thinking attitude something that he also had as a kid so seeing the kid do that would have probably made adult Calvin happy.
He's a total optimist who always trys to see the best in others.
Sucker.
Frazz.Can you two nerds stop speaking in placeholders and tell us what this strip is called, so we ignorant people can look it up? Cause now I'm interested.I was referring to the shoveler though.You misunderstood me. I meant that what that kid did would probably make Calvin happy, and therefore the snowshoveler's reaction was not off from how I assume adult Calvin would react to that situation.That's the kid, the adult in the strip is... ah, no one but me and OP reads the strip, do they?Which is funny, cus his outlook on life is polar opposite of Calvin's.(http://i.imgur.com/muJoZ.gif)
The artist of this cartoon stole Bill Watterson's artwork style. lol
Note how the shoveler looks like an adult Calvin.
How? Calvin may have been cynical and loved sarcasm but isn't that kids "rebellion" against the teacher and self thinking attitude something that he also had as a kid so seeing the kid do that would have probably made adult Calvin happy.
He's a total optimist who always trys to see the best in others.
Sucker.
Frazhttp://www.gocomics.com/frazz (http://www.gocomics.com/frazz)Can you two nerds stop speaking in placeholders and tell us what this strip is called, so we ignorant people can look it up? Cause now I'm interested.I was referring to the shoveler though.You misunderstood me. I meant that what that kid did would probably make Calvin happy, and therefore the snowshoveler's reaction was not off from how I assume adult Calvin would react to that situation.That's the kid, the adult in the strip is... ah, no one but me and OP reads the strip, do they?Which is funny, cus his outlook on life is polar opposite of Calvin's.(http://i.imgur.com/muJoZ.gif)
The artist of this cartoon stole Bill Watterson's artwork style. lol
Note how the shoveler looks like an adult Calvin.
How? Calvin may have been cynical and loved sarcasm but isn't that kids "rebellion" against the teacher and self thinking attitude something that he also had as a kid so seeing the kid do that would have probably made adult Calvin happy.
He's a total optimist who always trys to see the best in others.
Sucker.
(http://i.imgur.com/VEZPgrc.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/1tViYaC.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/VieVEdV.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/VEZPgrc.jpg)Err, I semi-agree with the first statement, she's not being disrepectful per-see, but she seams to be doing that thing americans do where we treat every other culture like it's all mystic and bullshit.
(http://i.imgur.com/1tViYaC.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/VieVEdV.jpg)
Agreed. Still, the answer is not to scream "appropriation".(http://i.imgur.com/VEZPgrc.jpg)Err, I semi-agree with the first statement, she's not being disrepectful per-see, but she seams to be doing that thing americans do where we treat every other culture like it's all mystic and bullshit.
(http://i.imgur.com/1tViYaC.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/VieVEdV.jpg)
So not racist, just stupid and annoying.
Hey, I just discovered a legitimate version of "Cultural Appropriation".Agreed. Still, the answer is not to scream "appropriation".(http://i.imgur.com/VEZPgrc.jpg)Err, I semi-agree with the first statement, she's not being disrepectful per-see, but she seams to be doing that thing americans do where we treat every other culture like it's all mystic and bullshit.
(http://i.imgur.com/1tViYaC.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/VieVEdV.jpg)
So not racist, just stupid and annoying.
Qué?Hey, I just discovered a legitimate version of "Cultural Appropriation".Agreed. Still, the answer is not to scream "appropriation".(http://i.imgur.com/VEZPgrc.jpg)Err, I semi-agree with the first statement, she's not being disrepectful per-see, but she seams to be doing that thing americans do where we treat every other culture like it's all mystic and bullshit.
(http://i.imgur.com/1tViYaC.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/VieVEdV.jpg)
So not racist, just stupid and annoying.
People thinking anything foreign like something super amazing. E.G. people getting words like "Peace" and "Love" in chinese tattooed on them.Qué?Hey, I just discovered a legitimate version of "Cultural Appropriation".Agreed. Still, the answer is not to scream "appropriation".(http://i.imgur.com/VEZPgrc.jpg)Err, I semi-agree with the first statement, she's not being disrepectful per-see, but she seams to be doing that thing americans do where we treat every other culture like it's all mystic and bullshit.
(http://i.imgur.com/1tViYaC.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/VieVEdV.jpg)
So not racist, just stupid and annoying.
Okay.People thinking anything foreign like something super amazing. E.G. people getting words like "Peace" and "Love" in chinese tattooed on them.Qué?Hey, I just discovered a legitimate version of "Cultural Appropriation".Agreed. Still, the answer is not to scream "appropriation".(http://i.imgur.com/VEZPgrc.jpg)Err, I semi-agree with the first statement, she's not being disrepectful per-see, but she seams to be doing that thing americans do where we treat every other culture like it's all mystic and bullshit.
(http://i.imgur.com/1tViYaC.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/VieVEdV.jpg)
So not racist, just stupid and annoying.
It's not racist or offensive, but it does make you look like a major tool. ]
I wonder if it was intentional or the guy who gave him the tattoo was bad at chinese.Okay.People thinking anything foreign like something super amazing. E.G. people getting words like "Peace" and "Love" in chinese tattooed on them.Qué?Hey, I just discovered a legitimate version of "Cultural Appropriation".Agreed. Still, the answer is not to scream "appropriation".(http://i.imgur.com/VEZPgrc.jpg)Err, I semi-agree with the first statement, she's not being disrepectful per-see, but she seams to be doing that thing americans do where we treat every other culture like it's all mystic and bullshit.
(http://i.imgur.com/1tViYaC.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/VieVEdV.jpg)
So not racist, just stupid and annoying.
It's not racist or offensive, but it does make you look like a major tool. ]
Speaking of which, I heard a story about a guy who got engaged. To celebrate, he got a tattoo that read "one love". Or so he thought. As it turned out, it actually said "love hurts".
I wonder if it was intentional or the guy who gave him the tattoo was bad at chinese.Probably the latter.
People thinking anything foreign like something super amazing. E.G. people getting words like "Peace" and "Love" in chinese tattooed on them.
It's not racist or offensive, but it does make you look like a major tool. ]
It seems ignorance has no boundaries.People thinking anything foreign like something super amazing. E.G. people getting words like "Peace" and "Love" in chinese tattooed on them.
It's not racist or offensive, but it does make you look like a major tool. ]
(http://i.imgur.com/Aq5EI.jpg)
Oh totally.It seems ignorance has no boundaries.People thinking anything foreign like something super amazing. E.G. people getting words like "Peace" and "Love" in chinese tattooed on them.
It's not racist or offensive, but it does make you look like a major tool. ]
(http://i.imgur.com/Aq5EI.jpg)
I don't think any country has an excess of stupid. It's just that the idiots tend to scream the loudest.Oh totally.It seems ignorance has no boundaries.People thinking anything foreign like something super amazing. E.G. people getting words like "Peace" and "Love" in chinese tattooed on them.
It's not racist or offensive, but it does make you look like a major tool. ]
(http://i.imgur.com/Aq5EI.jpg)
Granted it's really prevalent in america because of how much stupid we produce.
A school system funded by pocket change doesn't help though.I don't think any country has an excess of stupid. It's just that the idiots tend to scream the loudest.Oh totally.It seems ignorance has no boundaries.People thinking anything foreign like something super amazing. E.G. people getting words like "Peace" and "Love" in chinese tattooed on them.
It's not racist or offensive, but it does make you look like a major tool. ]
(http://i.imgur.com/Aq5EI.jpg)
Granted it's really prevalent in america because of how much stupid we produce.
It depends on where you live.A school system funded by pocket change doesn't help though.I don't think any country has an excess of stupid. It's just that the idiots tend to scream the loudest.Oh totally.It seems ignorance has no boundaries.People thinking anything foreign like something super amazing. E.G. people getting words like "Peace" and "Love" in chinese tattooed on them.
It's not racist or offensive, but it does make you look like a major tool. ]
(http://i.imgur.com/Aq5EI.jpg)
Granted it's really prevalent in america because of how much stupid we produce.
If you all hadn't heard, since tattoos became more popular in China, they're now getting random English words tattooed and on t-shirts and shit.
(http://i.imgur.com/5Xwzq8R.jpg)
People thinking anything foreign like something super amazing. E.G. people getting words like "Peace" and "Love" in chinese tattooed on them.
It's not racist or offensive, but it does make you look like a major tool. ]
(http://i.imgur.com/Aq5EI.jpg)
It's doubtful that most people even in their native culture know the meaning of all the artifacts they surround themselves with.Agreed.
I see it like this. If someone else borrows something from another culture, I don't have to get a social justice stick up my ass about it.
(http://leftycartoons.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/unemployment-measurement.jpg)There are lies, damned lies and statistics.
(http://leftycartoons.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/unemployment-measurement.jpg)There are lies, damned lies and statistics.
- Mark Twain
Now, for attacks on neo-Confederates:
(http://bshea1111.edublogs.org/files/2008/12/cartoon-kkk-and-heritage1.jpg)
(http://bshea1111.edublogs.org/files/2008/12/nazi-flag2.gif)
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lov7x8WF561qizl0so1_500.gif)
Even though most non-Southerners don't realize it, Florida's state flag is still based on a Confederate battle flag. Nearly all the Southern state flags are based on civil war era Confederate flags. Just not on the famous "stars and bars" flag that everybody knows. It's all hidden-in-plain-sight, sneaky bullshit that makes the bigots happy.
It's doubtful that most people even in their native culture know the meaning of all the artifacts they surround themselves with.my problem is people either imagine everything about a culture is magic and perfect (weebadoos, Anglophiles)
I see it like this. If someone else borrows something from another culture, I don't have to get a social justice stick up my ass about it.
Yeah, I found a pretty good cartoon about that.Even though most non-Southerners don't realize it, Florida's state flag is still based on a Confederate battle flag. Nearly all the Southern state flags are based on civil war era Confederate flags. Just not on the famous "stars and bars" flag that everybody knows. It's all hidden-in-plain-sight, sneaky bullshit that makes the bigots happy.
Don't forget the Confederate battle flag on the grounds of South Carolina's State House. Despite having twelve schools in the NCAA's Division I in the state (Charleston Southern, Clemson, Coastal Carolina, College of Charleston, Furman, Presbyterian, South Carolina, South Carolina State, South Carolina Upstate, The Citadel, Winthrop and Wofford), the NCAA does not allow championship games to be hosted in the state due to the presence of that flag.
Even though most non-Southerners don't realize it, Florida's state flag is still based on a Confederate battle flag. Nearly all the Southern state flags are based on civil war era Confederate flags. Just not on the famous "stars and bars" flag that everybody knows. It's all hidden-in-plain-sight, sneaky bullshit that makes the bigots happy.
(http://i.imgur.com/NuQsGHy.jpg)If Jesus were alive today the republicans would call him a liberal socialist Marxist terrorist.
What episode is that from?Even though most non-Southerners don't realize it, Florida's state flag is still based on a Confederate battle flag. Nearly all the Southern state flags are based on civil war era Confederate flags. Just not on the famous "stars and bars" flag that everybody knows. It's all hidden-in-plain-sight, sneaky bullshit that makes the bigots happy.
(http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100214030842/southpark/images/0/0f/Picture_kjhj.png)
Because I'm a huge arse.
Chef Goes NannersThanks. I'll have to rewatch it.
(http://chuckleaduck.com/comics/2013-01-10CAD328Gays.jpg)That's exactly why I started reading Chuckle A Duck.
Not exactly a political cartoon, but I thought it fit the thread.
Flame time.
It's hardly the first time someone has tried to corner the market using their political power. Most of the time they are smart enough to rig is so what they are doing isn't technically illegal. ::)Flame time.
No no, that cartoon's dead on. That's pretty much exactly how things happened.
Wait, oh yeah, that guy.Flame time.
No no, that cartoon's dead on. That's pretty much exactly how things happened.
(http://liberallogic101.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/1014303_10152031365250896_2969133690484382130_n-500x403.jpg)
Whoops, accidentally clicked the wrong picture. My bad.(http://liberallogic101.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/1014303_10152031365250896_2969133690484382130_n-500x403.jpg)
"IRS" of course being code for a fake scandal manufactured by, in part, Liberallogic.
Replace it with "NSA" and it works.(http://liberallogic101.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/1014303_10152031365250896_2969133690484382130_n-500x403.jpg)
"IRS" of course being code for a fake scandal manufactured by, in part, Liberallogic.
(http://oi57.tinypic.com/1zmz48y.jpg)... You rang?
Actually, yes. Part of the reason I posted this is because it reminded me of you.(http://oi57.tinypic.com/1zmz48y.jpg)... You rang?
Dreads were the norm for all of humanity for centuries until random tribes at random times picked up a new tradition or fashion of combing hair.Really? I didn't know that.
(https://31.media.tumblr.com/dd16f961d012dede044665400b6f4f92/tumblr_inline_n3sbcvaVIM1qihivo.jpg)I don't really like it as much as the original, cus the "Misandry" tattoos were probably suppose to be ironic.
(https://31.media.tumblr.com/ec67b537b4bd4332b32066bf0ae80a3c/tumblr_inline_n3sbd2EcRy1qihivo.jpg)
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Knee-jerk indignation and stupidity, mostly.Congratulations!
But the initials stand for Social Justice Warrior.
*edit*
My 1,500th post! ;D
Knee-jerk indignation and stupidity, mostly.Congratulations!
But the initials stand for Social Justice Warrior.
*edit*
My 1,500th post! ;D
Anyway, this reminds me of the "Frozen race controversy". SJWs told Sami people disputing their claims that they were ignorant about their own ethnicity. That's so dumb even Ralph Wiggum would facepalm at it.
Knee-jerk indignation and stupidity, mostly.Congratulations!
But the initials stand for Social Justice Warrior.
*edit*
My 1,500th post! ;D
Anyway, this reminds me of the "Frozen race controversy". SJWs told Sami people disputing their claims that they were ignorant about their own ethnicity. That's so dumb even Ralph Wiggum would facepalm at it.
Not to mention they go after Sami for looking too white.
Just another example of how bad the US education system is. SJW's are overwhelmingly American kids. They don't know who the current PM's are of major nations around the world. They don't know basic science, they don't know jack shit about anything outside of their little teapot tempest blog wars. It's no surprise they've zero familiarity with the Sami and Lapps, and that even when confronted with the facts about the struggles of these indigenous peoples, all that matters to the SJW's is that they are white skinned, and so, should be dismissed out of hand.Yeah. The irony is so thick I could cut it with a knife.
Knee-jerk indignation and stupidity, mostly.Congratulations!
But the initials stand for Social Justice Warrior.
*edit*
My 1,500th post! ;D
Anyway, this reminds me of the "Frozen race controversy". SJWs told Sami people disputing their claims that they were ignorant about their own ethnicity. That's so dumb even Ralph Wiggum would facepalm at it.
Not to mention they go after Sami for looking too white.
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Knee-jerk indignation and stupidity, mostly.
But the initials stand for Social Justice Warrior.
*edit*
My 1,500th post! ;D
Yeah, Social Justice Wankers are living proof of the Horseshoe Theory.Knee-jerk indignation and stupidity, mostly.
But the initials stand for Social Justice Warrior.
*edit*
My 1,500th post! ;D
Ahhhh......Thanks.
SJWs drive me insane and their craziness contradicts itself......they're attitudes are so extreme that they loop into becoming what they condemn.
(http://37.media.tumblr.com/9c9c81d2fb1dbb37354e9775a652b635/tumblr_n2cms2L7Yn1rdwac3o1_1280.jpg)While I get what they mean, isn't this overly hypothetical? Plus, when someone talks about gangs of blacks out to kill whites they are generally going to be a paranoid racist.
(http://37.media.tumblr.com/5f3c1a3110813f66498081e2e7a519eb/tumblr_n2cms2L7Yn1rdwac3o2_1280.jpg)
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/925927b372b88ce6b2b7be23e2d9ad65/tumblr_n2cms2L7Yn1rdwac3o3_1280.jpg)
(http://37.media.tumblr.com/32cd142bcb8ffb625e3f67406d6885f2/tumblr_n2cms2L7Yn1rdwac3o4_1280.jpg)
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Calling a group of black people killing a white person based on race racism ignores the power imbalance between people of any non-white race and white people in this country. It doesn't help when someone reduces mentioning a centuries-long history of racial oppression that America is still reeling from to "Your point is invalid because SLAVERY!!!!!1." There are a million reasons why that comic is too ignorant for words but I don't think I even have the energy to go into detail about them all right now.
Calling a group of black people killing a white person based on race racism ignores the power imbalance between people of any non-white race and white people in this country. It doesn't help when someone reduces mentioning a centuries-long history of racial oppression that America is still reeling from to "Your point is invalid because SLAVERY!!!!!1." There are a million reasons why that comic is too ignorant for words but I don't think I even have the energy to go into detail about them all right now.
On the comic itself, I will point out the difference is that the one with the white guy getting murdered would end in everyone calling for the black groups heads, the other scenario would likely result in the white guys getting off scott free as they were simply defending themselves against the negro menace.Did you come out of a time warp from the 1970s?
Yes, but I'm not sure why this has to do with my bitterness over the Trayvon martin case and about a half-dozen other cases of black guys getting killed and the murderer getting away shit-free because he/she (okay, he) was simply defending himself from the scary unarmed black teenager.On the comic itself, I will point out the difference is that the one with the white guy getting murdered would end in everyone calling for the black groups heads, the other scenario would likely result in the white guys getting off scott free as they were simply defending themselves against the negro menace.Did you come out of a time warp from the 1970s?
I think George Zimmerman is a brute, but I don't think he's a racist. It seems likely that racism played a role in getting him off, but it also helped this guy:Yes, but I'm not sure why this has to do with my bitterness over the Trayvon martin case and about a half-dozen other cases of black guys getting killed and the murderer getting away shit-free because he/she (okay, he) was simply defending himself from the scary unarmed black teenager.On the comic itself, I will point out the difference is that the one with the white guy getting murdered would end in everyone calling for the black groups heads, the other scenario would likely result in the white guys getting off scott free as they were simply defending themselves against the negro menace.Did you come out of a time warp from the 1970s?
BTW, why the 70's? Like, wouldn't a better choice be the 60's or 50's?I think George Zimmerman is a brute, but I don't think he's a racist. It seems likely that racism played a role in getting him off, but it also helped this guy:Yes, but I'm not sure why this has to do with my bitterness over the Trayvon martin case and about a half-dozen other cases of black guys getting killed and the murderer getting away shit-free because he/she (okay, he) was simply defending himself from the scary unarmed black teenager.On the comic itself, I will point out the difference is that the one with the white guy getting murdered would end in everyone calling for the black groups heads, the other scenario would likely result in the white guys getting off scott free as they were simply defending themselves against the negro menace.Did you come out of a time warp from the 1970s?
(http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/dam/assets/130715142555-07-acquittals-oj-story-top.jpg)
Anyway, that kind of thing doesn't happen nearly as often as it used to. True, it still happens too much, but it's far from a common occurrence.
I chose it because reasons.BTW, why the 70's? Like, wouldn't a better choice be the 60's or 50's?I think George Zimmerman is a brute, but I don't think he's a racist. It seems likely that racism played a role in getting him off, but it also helped this guy:Yes, but I'm not sure why this has to do with my bitterness over the Trayvon martin case and about a half-dozen other cases of black guys getting killed and the murderer getting away shit-free because he/she (okay, he) was simply defending himself from the scary unarmed black teenager.On the comic itself, I will point out the difference is that the one with the white guy getting murdered would end in everyone calling for the black groups heads, the other scenario would likely result in the white guys getting off scott free as they were simply defending themselves against the negro menace.Did you come out of a time warp from the 1970s?
(http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/dam/assets/130715142555-07-acquittals-oj-story-top.jpg)
Anyway, that kind of thing doesn't happen nearly as often as it used to. True, it still happens too much, but it's far from a common occurrence.
Calling a group of black people killing a white person based on race racism ignores the power imbalance between people of any non-white race and white people in this country. It doesn't help when someone reduces mentioning a centuries-long history of racial oppression that America is still reeling from to "Your point is invalid because SLAVERY!!!!!1." There are a million reasons why that comic is too ignorant for words but I don't think I even have the energy to go into detail about them all right now.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sw6ndZNLYUA
Do I really have to explain why that makes you sound like an SJW?
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Calling a group of black people killing a white person based on race racism ignores the power imbalance between people of any non-white race and white people in this country. It doesn't help when someone reduces mentioning a centuries-long history of racial oppression that America is still reeling from to "Your point is invalid because SLAVERY!!!!!1." There are a million reasons why that comic is too ignorant for words but I don't think I even have the energy to go into detail about them all right now.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sw6ndZNLYUA
Do I really have to explain why that makes you sound like an SJW?
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-sigh- Is that really the one you're going to use? Okay man, how about this: According to people who donate to and volunteer in soup kitchens, people who can afford to buy their own food cannot experience "hunger." Yes they're aware that people who can eat at Applebee's on a nightly basis and still pay their bills technically need food and could potentially starve to death if they went long enough without it, but they can't be hungry, because only homeless people and people who otherwise can't even afford instant ramen can truly be hungry. How is this not classism? I'm calling it now, there is a war on people who can support themselves financially. A war, I tell you.
Moving on, I'm well aware that a member of any group killing a member of any other group in cold blood is indeed monstrous and shouldn't be tolerated, but in order for something to qualify as oppression the action has to be taken against a member of an oppressed group. In most of the world, white people are not an oppressed group. This doesn't mean that murder or violence is okay in some contexts, it means that there are contexts in which there is a clear link between murder and an oppressive system and contexts in which no such connection exists, because there isn't an oppressive system for it to stem from.
Calling a group of black people killing a white person based on race racism ignores the power imbalance between people of any non-white race and white people in this country.
Calling a group of black people killing a white person based on race racism ignores the power imbalance between people of any non-white race and white people in this country. It doesn't help when someone reduces mentioning a centuries-long history of racial oppression that America is still reeling from to "Your point is invalid because SLAVERY!!!!!1." There are a million reasons why that comic is too ignorant for words but I don't think I even have the energy to go into detail about them all right now.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sw6ndZNLYUA
Do I really have to explain why that makes you sound like an SJW?
(http://i.imgur.com/QLNIZ02.jpg)
-sigh- Is that really the one you're going to use? Okay man, how about this: According to people who donate to and volunteer in soup kitchens, people who can afford to buy their own food cannot experience "hunger." Yes they're aware that people who can eat at Applebee's on a nightly basis and still pay their bills technically need food and could potentially starve to death if they went long enough without it, but they can't be hungry, because only homeless people and people who otherwise can't even afford instant ramen can truly be hungry. How is this not classism? I'm calling it now, there is a war on people who can support themselves financially. A war, I tell you.
Moving on, I'm well aware that a member of any group killing a member of any other group in cold blood is indeed monstrous and shouldn't be tolerated, but in order for something to qualify as oppression the action has to be taken against a member of an oppressed group. In most of the world, white people are not an oppressed group. This doesn't mean that murder or violence is okay in some contexts, it means that there are contexts in which there is a clear link between murder and an oppressive system and contexts in which no such connection exists, because there isn't an oppressive system for it to stem from.
Except that racism and oppression are, again, related, but not synonymous.
Calling a group of black people killing a white person based on race racism ignores the power imbalance between people of any non-white race and white people in this country.
Wait, was that a social justice quote? No? It was posted on FQA, totally without irony or sarcasm?
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If you don't think reverse racism is racism, there's a New Black Panther Party for Self-Defense where you'd fit right in. Assuming they don't murder you for being white or being a Jew.
I'm hoping that last one is a joke.Close but not exactly. It is parody that was made to highlight how stupid it is to try to rebrand racism into "power+prejudice."
TL;dr, racism is bad, and no Rush Limbaugh, white people aren't oppressed.I'm hoping that last one is a joke.Close but not exactly. It is parody that was made to highlight how stupid it is to try to rebrand racism into "power+prejudice."
And really, this rebranding is not helping anyone. By claiming that person X cannot experience racism SJWs are simply ignoring some peoples suffering but not really doing anything that would help the others who face racism either.
Why can't we just accept that all racism is bad and that depending on the location there are ethnic groups that face more racism than others. In fact I am not even denying that some ethnic groups have less power and face institutional racism and opression that other groups don't (depending on the location of course.) It is just that claiming that "group X can not be racist because blah" is derailing the conversation and is just an argument over semantics.
Yes, in USA (or at least parts of USA) a black person A still faces institutional racism while a white person B does not face the same hurdles, but that does not mean that A shouting that "all white people are subhuman mutants, whose low melanin numbers are a clear indication of their inferiority, need to be shot" would not be racist. (It also does not mean that mere racist remarks would be as bad as being jailed for petty crimes when someone of different skin colour would be treated more leniently by the courts.)
This (much like many other cases) is not a zero sum game and the fact that even the opressed ethnic groups can be racist does not mean that they aren't opressed. In fact, any person being a racist is a minor problem and a thought crime at most unless they commit opression or hate crimes due to that racism. If a group of black people and a group of white people both hold racist ideas but don't act on it no harm is done. If those groups both kill a member of a different ethnic group due to their racism then it is just as bad. AND if one of those groups get away with murder because the society and the law do not care for one of the victims then THAT is the real problem but it won't go away by claiming that one of those murders wasn't as bad because the killers can't be racist.
Okay, let's backtrack a little bit here and put things into more practical terms. So, the specific but hypothetical situation we're talking about here is a group of black people killing a white person and the reverse of that. So let's say each case is brought before a judge, who statistically speaking is most likely going to be white, and a jury, who are also fairly likely to be mostly white. Which group do you think this judge would hand out more death sentences to? Which group do you honestly think is going to end up worse off? If one of them tried to say something akin to "Okay, we admit we were going to rough him up a bit and that was wrong, but we didn't have any intentions of killing him until he fought back! It was practically a complete accident and we should get involuntary manslaughter at worst!" form whom do you think the argument would hold more weight?I specifically said that if one group can get away with crimes due to racism while others are judged unfairly then that is a REALLY bad thing and true opression.
No one is talking about sentences or guilty/not-guilty verdicts; they're talking about how saying "it's not racist when non-whites do it" is a load of shit.
Okay, let's backtrack a little bit here and put things into more practical terms. So, the specific but hypothetical situation we're talking about here is a group of black people killing a white person and the reverse of that. So let's say each case is brought before a judge, who statistically speaking is most likely going to be white, and a jury, who are also fairly likely to be mostly white. Which group do you think this judge would hand out more death sentences to? Which group do you honestly think is going to end up worse off? If one of them tried to say something akin to "Okay, we admit we were going to rough him up a bit and that was wrong, but we didn't have any intentions of killing him until he fought back! It was practically a complete accident and we should get involuntary manslaughter at worst!" form whom do you think the argument would hold more weight?I specifically said that if one group can get away with crimes due to racism while others are judged unfairly then that is a REALLY bad thing and true opression.
That still does not mean that person A killing person B due to racism would not be a hate crime. Neither does it mean that A insulting B due to B's race wouldn't be racism. Or that A thinking quietly in his head that B is inferiour due to his race wouldn't be racism. Some of those are worse than the others, but it does not mean that changing the ethnicity of A and B would make any of those NOT be racism.
Yeah, it's one thing to say white people aren't nearly as badly discriminated against as black people, it's another to say black people killing white people based purely on the fact they're white isn't racism is another.
#CancelFancy_Kitten
No one is talking about sentences or guilty/not-guilty verdicts; they're talking about how saying "it's not racist when non-whites do it" is a load of shit.
Okay, but without discussing actual results and what causes them the term 'racism' kind of loses its meaning.Okay, let's backtrack a little bit here and put things into more practical terms. So, the specific but hypothetical situation we're talking about here is a group of black people killing a white person and the reverse of that. So let's say each case is brought before a judge, who statistically speaking is most likely going to be white, and a jury, who are also fairly likely to be mostly white. Which group do you think this judge would hand out more death sentences to? Which group do you honestly think is going to end up worse off? If one of them tried to say something akin to "Okay, we admit we were going to rough him up a bit and that was wrong, but we didn't have any intentions of killing him until he fought back! It was practically a complete accident and we should get involuntary manslaughter at worst!" form whom do you think the argument would hold more weight?I specifically said that if one group can get away with crimes due to racism while others are judged unfairly then that is a REALLY bad thing and true opression.
That still does not mean that person A killing person B due to racism would not be a hate crime. Neither does it mean that A insulting B due to B's race wouldn't be racism. Or that A thinking quietly in his head that B is inferiour due to his race wouldn't be racism. Some of those are worse than the others, but it does not mean that changing the ethnicity of A and B would make any of those NOT be racism.
That's the thing though, language is important. If A is a person being on the receiving end of a negative action in an environment in which other members of group A have no history of being oppressed in both the public and private sectors, and in which the majority of wealthy people and people in government positions, and B is a person experiencing a negative action in an environment where those things are true, A does not logically equal B.Yeah, it's one thing to say white people aren't nearly as badly discriminated against as black people, it's another to say black people killing white people based purely on the fact they're white isn't racism is another.
#CancelFancy_Kitten
I swear you people are kinder to actual hateful fundies than you are to supporters of social justice.
No one is talking about sentences or guilty/not-guilty verdicts; they're talking about how saying "it's not racist when non-whites do it" is a load of shit.
Okay, but without discussing actual results and what causes them the term 'racism' kind of loses its meaning.Okay, let's backtrack a little bit here and put things into more practical terms. So, the specific but hypothetical situation we're talking about here is a group of black people killing a white person and the reverse of that. So let's say each case is brought before a judge, who statistically speaking is most likely going to be white, and a jury, who are also fairly likely to be mostly white. Which group do you think this judge would hand out more death sentences to? Which group do you honestly think is going to end up worse off? If one of them tried to say something akin to "Okay, we admit we were going to rough him up a bit and that was wrong, but we didn't have any intentions of killing him until he fought back! It was practically a complete accident and we should get involuntary manslaughter at worst!" form whom do you think the argument would hold more weight?I specifically said that if one group can get away with crimes due to racism while others are judged unfairly then that is a REALLY bad thing and true opression.
That still does not mean that person A killing person B due to racism would not be a hate crime. Neither does it mean that A insulting B due to B's race wouldn't be racism. Or that A thinking quietly in his head that B is inferiour due to his race wouldn't be racism. Some of those are worse than the others, but it does not mean that changing the ethnicity of A and B would make any of those NOT be racism.
That's the thing though, language is important. If A is a person being on the receiving end of a negative action in an environment in which other members of group A have no history of being oppressed in both the public and private sectors, and in which the majority of wealthy people and people in government positions, and B is a person experiencing a negative action in an environment where those things are true, A does not logically equal B.Yeah, it's one thing to say white people aren't nearly as badly discriminated against as black people, it's another to say black people killing white people based purely on the fact they're white isn't racism is another.
#CancelFancy_Kitten
I swear you people are kinder to actual hateful fundies than you are to supporters of social justice.
Nobody has claimed that the two are equivalent or would be treated equivalently. Having a cold isn't the same as having full-blown AIDS, but both are still diseases. I've said it before and I'll say it again: Racism is related to oppression, but being in the position of the oppressed does NOT make you immune to being a racist.
Okay, but calling both ailments 'terminal,' for instance, would make no sense, right? Running with the metaphor you've presented, I'd say that 'disease' is equivalent to 'prejudiced' but only 'terminal' would be equivalent to 'racist.' One is bad and deserves attention, while one is extremely bad, deserves immediate attention, and has completely different root causes.No, you see now we get to the point where we disagree. YOU and SJWs and SJAs and whatever different monikers there are, are trying to change the meaning of the word racist.
By your logic, it would be impossible for a woman to abuse a man in a relationship because of the fact that we still live in a highly patriarchal society where men are largely favored over women in many jobs and institutions. Sure, she might scream at, demean, strike or threaten him with weapons, but it wouldn't be abuse because of the societal power differential between men and women.
Okay, but calling both ailments 'terminal,' for instance, would make no sense, right? Running with the metaphor you've presented, I'd say that 'disease' is equivalent to 'prejudiced' but only 'terminal' would be equivalent to 'racist.' One is bad and deserves attention, while one is extremely bad, deserves immediate attention, and has completely different root causes.No, you see now we get to the point where we disagree. YOU and SJWs and SJAs and whatever different monikers there are, are trying to change the meaning of the word racist.
If we're still using the disease metaphor, in our opinion you are trying to argue that the word disease should be reserved for diseases that cause near certain death and that people who have the flu or diabetes etc. should not count as having a disease. We are not claiming that there aren't terminal illnesses or that some diseases are more dangerous than others, just that all diseases count as diseases wether they are lethal or not.
If we're still using the disease metaphor, in our opinion you are trying to argue that the word disease should be reserved for diseases that cause near certain death and that people who have the flu or diabetes etc. should not count as having a disease. We are not claiming that there aren't terminal illnesses or that some diseases are more dangerous than others, just that all diseases count as diseases wether they are lethal or not.
Sorry, I guess I should have used HIV or Ebola or something but I just picked some ailments by random.If we're still using the disease metaphor, in our opinion you are trying to argue that the word disease should be reserved for diseases that cause near certain death and that people who have the flu or diabetes etc. should not count as having a disease. We are not claiming that there aren't terminal illnesses or that some diseases are more dangerous than others, just that all diseases count as diseases wether they are lethal or not.
Personally, I felt that disease should really only be applicable for medical conditions caused by viral or bacterial micro-organisms. Hence, I am not particularly fond of classifying things like diabetes or cancer as a disease. However, I do agree with the main point you are trying to make. It is just my two pedantic cents.
2. Rich people use money they would have spent on taxes to hire part-time, low-wage workers.
4. Products don't sell because low-wage workers have little money, pension or social security.
2. Rich people use money they would have spent on taxes to hire part-time, low-wage workers.
Or the corporation pockets the money and does nothing else with it.4. Products don't sell because low-wage workers have little money, pension or social security.
The products are selling just fine, but corporations are no longer focused on marketing their products to the middle class in the United States. That's just not where the money is at on a global scope.
If I were a morally-bankrupt corporation, I would figure out how to lend credit to my employees instead of paying them wages. That way I can redeem it all later, with interest.
2. Rich people use money they would have spent on taxes to hire part-time, low-wage workers.
Or the corporation pockets the money and does nothing else with it.4. Products don't sell because low-wage workers have little money, pension or social security.
The products are selling just fine, but corporations are no longer focused on marketing their products to the middle class in the United States. That's just not where the money is at on a global scope.
If I were a morally-bankrupt corporation, I would figure out how to lend credit to my employees instead of paying them wages. That way I can redeem it all later, with interest.
Some companies, particularly mining companies, used to do something very similar. They would have their workers concentrated in small communities that the company owned and ran and paid them in scrip that was only redeemable at the stores within those communities, effectively cutting them off from the outside world. Some would even force their workers to pay rent on their houses with company scrip.
I think George Zimmerman is a brute, but I don't think he's a racist. It seems likely that racism played a role in getting him off, but it also helped this guy:Yes, but I'm not sure why this has to do with my bitterness over the Trayvon martin case and about a half-dozen other cases of black guys getting killed and the murderer getting away shit-free because he/she (okay, he) was simply defending himself from the scary unarmed black teenager.On the comic itself, I will point out the difference is that the one with the white guy getting murdered would end in everyone calling for the black groups heads, the other scenario would likely result in the white guys getting off scott free as they were simply defending themselves against the negro menace.Did you come out of a time warp from the 1970s?
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Anyway, that kind of thing doesn't happen nearly as often as it used to. True, it still happens too much, but it's far from a common occurrence.
I was suggesting both, actually.I think George Zimmerman is a brute, but I don't think he's a racist. It seems likely that racism played a role in getting him off, but it also helped this guy:Yes, but I'm not sure why this has to do with my bitterness over the Trayvon martin case and about a half-dozen other cases of black guys getting killed and the murderer getting away shit-free because he/she (okay, he) was simply defending himself from the scary unarmed black teenager.On the comic itself, I will point out the difference is that the one with the white guy getting murdered would end in everyone calling for the black groups heads, the other scenario would likely result in the white guys getting off scott free as they were simply defending themselves against the negro menace.Did you come out of a time warp from the 1970s?
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Anyway, that kind of thing doesn't happen nearly as often as it used to. True, it still happens too much, but it's far from a common occurrence.
The thing about OJ is that racism did play a role in getting him off but not in the way that I think you are suggesting Ultimate Paragon. The reason OJ was acquitted was because the racist detectives at the LAPD decided to plant evidence to try and insure a conviction. Once the planted evidence was discovered it was too hard not to have reasonable doubt about the murder. Hence 'If the gloves don't fit, you must acquit!'.
I'm actually inbetween on the racism = power + prejudice thing.Um... Zimbabwe?
On one hand, I do believe it is redefining a word to describe it like that.
On the other hand, it's handy because it spites the crackers who believe that racism against a white person is totes equivalent to racism against a black person.
Because, ya know, there's totally a history of black people oppressing white people as recently as this century and all.
I'm actually inbetween on the racism = power + prejudice thing.Um... Zimbabwe?
On one hand, I do believe it is redefining a word to describe it like that.
On the other hand, it's handy because it spites the crackers who believe that racism against a white person is totes equivalent to racism against a black person.
Because, ya know, there's totally a history of black people oppressing white people as recently as this century and all.
Uh, no. Genocidewatch calls the persecution of whites in Zimbabwe a Stage 5 case.I'm actually inbetween on the racism = power + prejudice thing.Um... Zimbabwe?
On one hand, I do believe it is redefining a word to describe it like that.
On the other hand, it's handy because it spites the crackers who believe that racism against a white person is totes equivalent to racism against a black person.
Because, ya know, there's totally a history of black people oppressing white people as recently as this century and all.
Largely myth.
Uh, no. Genocidewatch calls the persecution of whites in Zimbabwe a Stage 5 case.I'm actually inbetween on the racism = power + prejudice thing.Um... Zimbabwe?
On one hand, I do believe it is redefining a word to describe it like that.
On the other hand, it's handy because it spites the crackers who believe that racism against a white person is totes equivalent to racism against a black person.
Because, ya know, there's totally a history of black people oppressing white people as recently as this century and all.
Largely myth.
True, but things are more than a little worrisome. This kind of thing has been seen before, in Rwanda, Yugoslavia, Darfur, etc.Uh, no. Genocidewatch calls the persecution of whites in Zimbabwe a Stage 5 case.I'm actually inbetween on the racism = power + prejudice thing.Um... Zimbabwe?
On one hand, I do believe it is redefining a word to describe it like that.
On the other hand, it's handy because it spites the crackers who believe that racism against a white person is totes equivalent to racism against a black person.
Because, ya know, there's totally a history of black people oppressing white people as recently as this century and all.
Largely myth.
As in, there is a certain degree of discrimination? It's absolutely ludicrous to call Zimbabwe's farm policy genocide.
True, but things are more than a little worrisome. This kind of thing has been seen before, in Rwanda, Yugoslavia, Darfur, etc.Uh, no. Genocidewatch calls the persecution of whites in Zimbabwe a Stage 5 case.I'm actually inbetween on the racism = power + prejudice thing.Um... Zimbabwe?
On one hand, I do believe it is redefining a word to describe it like that.
On the other hand, it's handy because it spites the crackers who believe that racism against a white person is totes equivalent to racism against a black person.
Because, ya know, there's totally a history of black people oppressing white people as recently as this century and all.
Largely myth.
As in, there is a certain degree of discrimination? It's absolutely ludicrous to call Zimbabwe's farm policy genocide.
The real tragedy of Zimbabwe is that the government was once legitimately trying to do the right thing - peacefully compensate the descendants of the white thieves for their bullshit land claims to almost all of Zimbabwe - but then a series of disasters basically stopped this. Obviously, Zimbabwe isn't going to actually enforce the bullshit land claims to their country, so the other alternative is violence. The other tragedy is that pretty effective militia leaders don't always make good heads of state. And the other other tragedy is that if you leave someone in charge of something for a while, eventually they will break it.
Greed beats genocide every time. Quite often genocide is just a means of satiating some peoples greed.
I'm actually inbetween on the racism = power + prejudice thing.Um... Zimbabwe?
On one hand, I do believe it is redefining a word to describe it like that.
On the other hand, it's handy because it spites the crackers who believe that racism against a white person is totes equivalent to racism against a black person.
Because, ya know, there's totally a history of black people oppressing white people as recently as this century and all.
It's okay.I'm actually inbetween on the racism = power + prejudice thing.Um... Zimbabwe?
On one hand, I do believe it is redefining a word to describe it like that.
On the other hand, it's handy because it spites the crackers who believe that racism against a white person is totes equivalent to racism against a black person.
Because, ya know, there's totally a history of black people oppressing white people as recently as this century and all.
My fault, I didn't specify "in the United States."
(http://i58.tinypic.com/153v7ti.jpg)Somalia: A country that proves Objectivists wrong.
Somalia is like surface Rapture.You just hit the nail on the head.
Somalia is like surface Rapture.Without the plasmids.
Somalia is like surface Rapture.Without the plasmids.
It should also be noted that the creators of Bioshock don't like communism or jingoism either.Somalia is like surface Rapture.Without the plasmids.
To be fair, Somaliland is stable, Somalia fell into civil war after the collapse of a socialist government, and Objectivists aren't against all government and advocate basic law and order services. Of course, who's going to be a police detective when everyone in society is either a genius businessman and inventor allowed to roam free or a rightfully stomped-upon mediocrity isn't clear and never seems to be explained. It's almost like Atlas Shrugged is a wild oversimplification and you'd be a fucking moron to think it's an accurate depiction of society or real life.
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Now, in fairness, Condi is the only respectable woman named. However, that doesn't excuse the blatantly misogynistic things that have been said about conservative women. I don't like Robert Mugabe, but you don't hear me using the "N-Word" to describe him.
Somalia is like surface Rapture.Without the plasmids.
To be fair, Somaliland is stable, Somalia fell into civil war after the collapse of a socialist government, and Objectivists aren't against all government and advocate basic law and order services. Of course, who's going to be a police detective when everyone in society is either a genius businessman and inventor allowed to roam free or a rightfully stomped-upon mediocrity isn't clear and never seems to be explained. It's almost like Atlas Shrugged is a wild oversimplification and you'd be a fucking moron to think it's an accurate depiction of society or real life.
(http://i.imgur.com/OkSDmQC.jpg)The cartoonist also seems to be a Rush Limbaugh apologist.
Now, in fairness, Condi is the only respectable woman named. However, that doesn't excuse the blatantly misogynistic things that have been said about conservative women. I don't like Robert Mugabe, but you don't hear me using the "N-Word" to describe him.
It's possible that one or two liberals may have said something in passing that could be interpreted as unreasonable once or twice. Do they routinely call conservative women traitors without justification? Or whores? Sluts? Is that a political strategy? It is for the right.
I agree, the GOP has more than its share of misogynists as well.It's possible that one or two liberals may have said something in passing that could be interpreted as unreasonable once or twice. Do they routinely call conservative women traitors without justification? Or whores? Sluts? Is that a political strategy? It is for the right.
While you do have a point, it does happen a lot more than "once or twice." A lot of liberals, pundits or otherwise, can come across just as misogynistic as the Republicans, using degrading language towards Ann Coulter and Sarah Palin.
That being said, it's nowhere NEAR the level of misogyny and chauvinism that goes on in the Republican party right now, who only base women's importance on their beauty and little else.
It's possible that one or two liberals may have said something in passing that could be interpreted as unreasonable once or twice. Do they routinely call conservative women traitors without justification? Or whores? Sluts? Is that a political strategy? It is for the right.
While you do have a point, it does happen a lot more than "once or twice." A lot of liberals, pundits or otherwise, can come across just as misogynistic as the Republicans, using degrading language towards Ann Coulter and Sarah Palin.
That being said, it's nowhere NEAR the level of misogyny and chauvinism that goes on in the Republican party right now, who only base women's importance on their beauty and little else.
They're fuckin full of misogynists.I agree, the GOP has more than its share of misogynists as well.It's possible that one or two liberals may have said something in passing that could be interpreted as unreasonable once or twice. Do they routinely call conservative women traitors without justification? Or whores? Sluts? Is that a political strategy? It is for the right.
While you do have a point, it does happen a lot more than "once or twice." A lot of liberals, pundits or otherwise, can come across just as misogynistic as the Republicans, using degrading language towards Ann Coulter and Sarah Palin.
That being said, it's nowhere NEAR the level of misogyny and chauvinism that goes on in the Republican party right now, who only base women's importance on their beauty and little else.
Martial rape or marital rape? There is a difference.They're fuckin full of misogynists.I agree, the GOP has more than its share of misogynists as well.It's possible that one or two liberals may have said something in passing that could be interpreted as unreasonable once or twice. Do they routinely call conservative women traitors without justification? Or whores? Sluts? Is that a political strategy? It is for the right.
While you do have a point, it does happen a lot more than "once or twice." A lot of liberals, pundits or otherwise, can come across just as misogynistic as the Republicans, using degrading language towards Ann Coulter and Sarah Palin.
That being said, it's nowhere NEAR the level of misogyny and chauvinism that goes on in the Republican party right now, who only base women's importance on their beauty and little else.
I believe just recently they had that person who wanted to legalize martial rape, not to mention the fact they've voted against both the equal pay act and the violence against women act.
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Again with your stupid partisanship. Time for a court-martial, lieutenant.(http://media.cagle.com/29/2014/04/18/147312_600.jpg)
It's obviously silly to compare the dishonest, politically motivated and destructive opposition to Obama with the principled, rational and fair-minded opposition to Bush. The comparison with Clinton is reasonable - Carter, too.
Fred's an Aussie. He gets a pass.I agree, too much criticism of Obama has racist undertones. I doubt birtherism would have gained as much support if he were white. However, that doesn't mean we should automatically dismiss his critics as racists.
All recent presidents have had bad caricatures made of them and their effigies burned and other extreme looking protest memes, but Obama's roasting undeniably has been very racist in tone way too many times. Because we got a lot of dumbasses and hicks in this country. And now they all have internet access.
Fred's an Aussie. He gets a pass.I agree, too much criticism of Obama has racist undertones. I doubt birtherism would have gained as much support if he were white. However, that doesn't mean we should automatically dismiss his critics as racists.
All recent presidents have had bad caricatures made of them and their effigies burned and other extreme looking protest memes, but Obama's roasting undeniably has been very racist in tone way too many times. Because we got a lot of dumbasses and hicks in this country. And now they all have internet access.
Also, why exactly does he get a pass for being Australian? Care to fill me in?
I figured he was on the far-left. After all, he's a Chavez apologist.Fred's an Aussie. He gets a pass.I agree, too much criticism of Obama has racist undertones. I doubt birtherism would have gained as much support if he were white. However, that doesn't mean we should automatically dismiss his critics as racists.
All recent presidents have had bad caricatures made of them and their effigies burned and other extreme looking protest memes, but Obama's roasting undeniably has been very racist in tone way too many times. Because we got a lot of dumbasses and hicks in this country. And now they all have internet access.
Also, why exactly does he get a pass for being Australian? Care to fill me in?
To those of us in the states, Fred's pretty much just shy of being a 'goddamn Commie', politically (if I got this mixed up Fred, please correct me). That being said, Fred, as much as he can antagonize a good chunk of us, because we frequently come to a head in arguments with him on this board, keeps our feet on the ground. He does raise good points. We're just un-used to views like his, because to many of us, they do seem extreme in some cases.
Fred gets a pass because he is an armchair quarterback American, or dilettante observer. His comments are from his perspective as an Australian of his own stripe of political philosophy. He does have a good grasp of our history and governmental structure because he's studied it at Uni for years.Okay. Glad to have a little context.
I can't remember where I heard this, but someone once said that defending a position by citing free speech is sort of the ultimate concession; you're saying that the most compelling thing you can say for your position is that it's not literally illegal to express.
Again with your stupid partisanship. Time for a court-martial, lieutenant.(http://media.cagle.com/29/2014/04/18/147312_600.jpg)
It's obviously silly to compare the dishonest, politically motivated and destructive opposition to Obama with the principled, rational and fair-minded opposition to Bush. The comparison with Clinton is reasonable - Carter, too.
Yeah, it's XKCD. But it fits.More people need to understand this.
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Alt text:QuoteI can't remember where I heard this, but someone once said that defending a position by citing free speech is sort of the ultimate concession; you're saying that the most compelling thing you can say for your position is that it's not literally illegal to express.
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With Obama, the formula has been entirely reversed. The prior is "I hate Barack Obama". That is thought one, all other political views flow from that. Therefore, Obamacare is communism, despite Republicans universally supporting it a mere six years ago. In fact, this is true of all policy; Republicans do not hate Obama because they disagree with his policy, they pretend to disagree with his policy in order to justify their hatred of Barack Obama. Hence, negotiation with Obama is treason, compromise is treason, ect. It's entirely legitimate to sabotage the American economy for votes, because the biggest threat to the US economy is Obama's communist policy, which somehow caused the crisis in the first place.It's not hate, it's political strategy.
It's mainly because he stood up to the Ottoman Empire. People love a David vs. Goliath fight. The same thing might have happened to Nicolae Ceaușescu too if he had gotten into a war with the Soviet Union.(http://media.cagle.com/77/2014/03/18/145899_600.jpg)
Tis funny, because I believe Vlad the Impaler is viewed as something of a folk hero in his home country. Like, legitimate folk hero, not telling the media to make you into one because your cock's so infinitesimally small it may as well be a singularity.
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Tis funny, because I believe Vlad the Impaler is viewed as something of a folk hero in his home country. Like, legitimate folk hero, not telling the media to make you into one because your cock's so infinitesimally small it may as well be a singularity.
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Tis funny, because I believe Vlad the Impaler is viewed as something of a folk hero in his home country. Like, legitimate folk hero, not telling the media to make you into one because your cock's so infinitesimally small it may as well be a singularity.
Plus, Vlad Dracula has a cooler outfit, inspired a famous vampire character & doesn't look like Frank Gorshin The House Elf. *BLEH BLAH*!
It must be noted that Vlad WAS a murderous psychopath. However, most of his nastiness was directed at the invading Ottomans, and the punishments on his people, sadly, weren't much worse that those in the rest of Europe.Then why did his name become synonymous with cruelty?
And the alternative plan of action for Snowden is...?It was just commenting on the irony of Snowden seeking asylum in Russia.
And the alternative plan of action for Snowden is...?It was just commenting on the irony of Snowden seeking asylum in Russia.
It must be noted that Vlad WAS a murderous psychopath. However, most of his nastiness was directed at the invading Ottomans, and the punishments on his people, sadly, weren't much worse that those in the rest of Europe.Then why did his name become synonymous with cruelty?
Shrewd.It must be noted that Vlad WAS a murderous psychopath. However, most of his nastiness was directed at the invading Ottomans, and the punishments on his people, sadly, weren't much worse that those in the rest of Europe.Then why did his name become synonymous with cruelty?
Because he deliberately cultivated a reputation for it. Romania was a tiny country right in between some very big warring powers; the best way to secure its safety was to make sure everyone was scared shitless of the man himself.
You had to be, in those times. Hell, even nowadays, you have to be, just to a less life-ending extent...more that people are scared shitless of a country's ability to kill you in horrible ways, rather than actually doing it.Right on, brother.
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It's about the wage gap. Ever hear of "77 cents on the dollar"?(http://media.cagle.com/82/2014/04/15/147175_600.jpg)
I don't get it?
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One question; What's a "shim"?
Stupid question, but what's a TERF?It's an acronym that stands for Trans-Exclusive Radical Feminist.
Stupid question, but what's a TERF?It's an acronym that stands for Trans-Exclusive Radical Feminist.
Stupid question, but what's a TERF?It's an acronym that stands for Trans-Exclusive Radical Feminist.
So like the Diannic Wicca ladies?
Are they really accepting, or do they just say they are?Stupid question, but what's a TERF?It's an acronym that stands for Trans-Exclusive Radical Feminist.
So like the Diannic Wicca ladies?
Precisely.
Though I do believe that quite a few Dianic Wiccan covens splintered off from the main group by becoming accepting of trans women, after the controversy that happened at that one event.
Are they really accepting, or do they just say they are?Stupid question, but what's a TERF?It's an acronym that stands for Trans-Exclusive Radical Feminist.
So like the Diannic Wicca ladies?
Precisely.
Though I do believe that quite a few Dianic Wiccan covens splintered off from the main group by becoming accepting of trans women, after the controversy that happened at that one event.
Are they really accepting, or do they just say they are?Stupid question, but what's a TERF?It's an acronym that stands for Trans-Exclusive Radical Feminist.
So like the Diannic Wicca ladies?
Precisely.
Though I do believe that quite a few Dianic Wiccan covens splintered off from the main group by becoming accepting of trans women, after the controversy that happened at that one event.
Ask them, I'm not interested in Dianic Wicca :P
I would hope they're really accepting. Otherwise they rebelled for nothing.
Are they really accepting, or do they just say they are?Stupid question, but what's a TERF?It's an acronym that stands for Trans-Exclusive Radical Feminist.
So like the Diannic Wicca ladies?
Precisely.
Though I do believe that quite a few Dianic Wiccan covens splintered off from the main group by becoming accepting of trans women, after the controversy that happened at that one event.
Ask them, I'm not interested in Dianic Wicca :P
I would hope they're really accepting. Otherwise they rebelled for nothing.
What controversy are you talking about?
A rude term for someone who's transgender. Similar to shemale, tranny, transvestite, etc.
Are they really accepting, or do they just say they are?Stupid question, but what's a TERF?It's an acronym that stands for Trans-Exclusive Radical Feminist.
So like the Diannic Wicca ladies?
Precisely.
Though I do believe that quite a few Dianic Wiccan covens splintered off from the main group by becoming accepting of trans women, after the controversy that happened at that one event.
Ask them, I'm not interested in Dianic Wicca :P
I would hope they're really accepting. Otherwise they rebelled for nothing.
What controversy are you talking about?
There was an event (like some sort of pagan convention) where a Dianic Wiccan coven/group of covens turned away transwomen from a skyclad event (read: naked dancing) because "seeing penises in their group would traumatize these women" and how Dianic Wicca was "only for real women" or something like that.
These are the kinds of Dianic Wiccans that tend to be labeled "TERFs".
There are people in every belief system who give it a bad name. Christian, Muslim, Jewish, Atheist, Hindu, Sikh, Buddhist, Agnostic, etc. We really need to learn to focus on the religion as a whole, rather than its worst members.A rude term for someone who's transgender. Similar to shemale, tranny, transvestite, etc.
I see, thanks!Are they really accepting, or do they just say they are?Stupid question, but what's a TERF?It's an acronym that stands for Trans-Exclusive Radical Feminist.
So like the Diannic Wicca ladies?
Precisely.
Though I do believe that quite a few Dianic Wiccan covens splintered off from the main group by becoming accepting of trans women, after the controversy that happened at that one event.
Ask them, I'm not interested in Dianic Wicca :P
I would hope they're really accepting. Otherwise they rebelled for nothing.
What controversy are you talking about?
There was an event (like some sort of pagan convention) where a Dianic Wiccan coven/group of covens turned away transwomen from a skyclad event (read: naked dancing) because "seeing penises in their group would traumatize these women" and how Dianic Wicca was "only for real women" or something like that.
These are the kinds of Dianic Wiccans that tend to be labeled "TERFs".
Yuck, like weirdos such as Wotan's Krieger, they give NeoPaganism a bad name.
Technically, focusing on religion as a whole includes its worst members, rather than excludes them.What I'm saying is that we shouldn't judge these religions by the assholes who happen to be members.
Like, I'm not gonna cry if people complain about all the racist, white supremacy fuckwits in Asatru and other Norse-related religions. They need to be complained about. Not to mention the conservative nature and a militarism that puts fundamentalist Christianity (at least in its current state) to shame.
Technically, focusing on religion as a whole includes its worst members, rather than excludes them.What I'm saying is that we shouldn't judge these religions by the assholes who happen to be members.
Like, I'm not gonna cry if people complain about all the racist, white supremacy fuckwits in Asatru and other Norse-related religions. They need to be complained about. Not to mention the conservative nature and a militarism that puts fundamentalist Christianity (at least in its current state) to shame.
(http://oi62.tinypic.com/35i4wae.jpg)We have had this comic here before.
Sorry.(http://oi62.tinypic.com/35i4wae.jpg)We have had this comic here before.
...I still think that the cutest part is how the colours of their hands are mixing a bit.
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Where's that from?(http://oi62.tinypic.com/35i4wae.jpg)(http://24.media.tumblr.com/f82014bcf9795dfdeb7796aaf7b80d92/tumblr_mp3gn6GEYb1rl78cpo1_500.png)
Somewhere, I think, maybe.Where's that from?(http://oi62.tinypic.com/35i4wae.jpg)(http://24.media.tumblr.com/f82014bcf9795dfdeb7796aaf7b80d92/tumblr_mp3gn6GEYb1rl78cpo1_500.png)
Okay. Just wondering.Somewhere, I think, maybe.Where's that from?(http://oi62.tinypic.com/35i4wae.jpg)(http://24.media.tumblr.com/f82014bcf9795dfdeb7796aaf7b80d92/tumblr_mp3gn6GEYb1rl78cpo1_500.png)
No clue.
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A metaphor.(http://oi62.tinypic.com/35i4wae.jpg)We have had this comic here before.
I haven't seen it.(http://24.media.tumblr.com/f82014bcf9795dfdeb7796aaf7b80d92/tumblr_mp3gn6GEYb1rl78cpo1_500.png)
And what the hell is this? :o
"Babymaker" implies that's all they're good for, or that it's their primary purpose.Yeah.
A metaphor? Is that a metaphor as seen by Cthulhu or what?Worse, Tumblr.
"Babymaker" implies that's all they're good for, or that it's their primary purpose.Yeah.
I say it's time we used the SJWs' tactics against them.How do I know that guy wasn't being a douche before.
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Did you have to make 4 posts within a minute?Sorry.
There is an edit function. In the future, if your post is the last one in the thread edit it rather than do a double- (or quadruple) post. Or else.Did you have to make 4 posts within a minute?Sorry.
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(http://oi58.tinypic.com/fmkhs7.jpg)Lol, I've seen that cartoonist before.
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Did that picture really have to use Steve Jobs...?
(http://oi58.tinypic.com/fmkhs7.jpg)Lol, I've seen that cartoonist before.
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Did that picture really have to use Steve Jobs...?
I've no idea if Bill Gates was teased or bullied as a youngster, but he had the classic nerdy look, and was small in stature. He'd have been a much more suitable example than Jobs for this cartoon. Gates at least has tried, with success, to help the less fortunate in many ways, and has shed himself of the bulk of his wealth to fund those projects. It never ceases to amaze me how little Job's fans must actually know about who he was and what he did.
Same.(http://oi58.tinypic.com/fmkhs7.jpg)Lol, I've seen that cartoonist before.
The "peg-head" guy made me chuckle.
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Did that picture really have to use Steve Jobs...?
I've no idea if Bill Gates was teased or bullied as a youngster, but he had the classic nerdy look, and was small in stature. He'd have been a much more suitable example than Jobs for this cartoon. Gates at least has tried, with success, to help the less fortunate in many ways, and has shed himself of the bulk of his wealth to fund those projects. It never ceases to amaze me how little Job's fans must actually know about who he was and what he did.
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Did that picture really have to use Steve Jobs...?
I've no idea if Bill Gates was teased or bullied as a youngster, but he had the classic nerdy look, and was small in stature. He'd have been a much more suitable example than Jobs for this cartoon. Gates at least has tried, with success, to help the less fortunate in many ways, and has shed himself of the bulk of his wealth to fund those projects. It never ceases to amaze me how little Job's fans must actually know about who he was and what he did.
Jobs is something of a bully himself, as well, which is why I questioned the use of it.
Not to mention there's easily dozens of other notable examples that could apply to this cartoon.
And they chose the guy who, in my opinion, was least qualified for it.
Steve Jobs doesn't look nerdy. He looks like a hipster.
Probably codified the look, to be honest.
On the topic of that comic: I wonder how a peg-head would actually work......
Sorry, sleep deprived, meant "was".Get some rest. If you haven't got your health, you've got nothing.
I'm sleep deprived because my loving father kept letting (and shutting) the cat in my room, and my cat kept waking me up throughout the night.I completely sympathize. I used to suffer from insomnia.
I can't take a nap because, otherwise, I won't sleep tonight, and I need to get to bed at reasonable times so I can wake up as early as noon.
Being born with a sleep dysfunction really sucks.
It's not insomnia so much as an inability to fall asleep like a regular person. It takes anywhere from an hour to three hours for me to fall asleep, no matter how sleepy or tired I am. And when I try to make myself go to sleep sooner, it can take even longer to fall asleep.Have you tried imagining a relaxing scene?
There's been more than one night where I've gone to bed and just never fallen asleep.
Counting sheep doesn't work, either. In fact, I think it ends up making it harder to fall asleep.
It's not insomnia so much as an inability to fall asleep like a regular person. It takes anywhere from an hour to three hours for me to fall asleep, no matter how sleepy or tired I am. And when I try to make myself go to sleep sooner, it can take even longer to fall asleep.Have you tried imagining a relaxing scene?
There's been more than one night where I've gone to bed and just never fallen asleep.
Counting sheep doesn't work, either. In fact, I think it ends up making it harder to fall asleep.
You know, maybe we should start another thread about this.
I'm sleep deprived because my loving father kept letting (and shutting) the cat in my room, and my cat kept waking me up throughout the night.
I can't take a nap because, otherwise, I won't sleep tonight, and I need to get to bed at reasonable times so I can wake up as early as noon.
Being born with a sleep dysfunction really sucks.
I read that he also is a melon farmer. He can graze his herd on his melons. Seriously, depending on the variety of melon, the leaves and shoots could be good fodder for them. But I wonder....does he also steal groundwater from underneath the federal rangelands, to water his melon crop?
I'm sleep deprived because my loving father kept letting (and shutting) the cat in my room, and my cat kept waking me up throughout the night.
I can't take a nap because, otherwise, I won't sleep tonight, and I need to get to bed at reasonable times so I can wake up as early as noon.
Being born with a sleep dysfunction really sucks.
Can you explain to him why the cat thing is a total fail to you?
Okay. Sorry man.
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Class privilege is a thing yo. Also, I never heard anyone claim that privilege was some kind of contest where you score points by being oppressed in as many ways as possible, and in fact have pretty much only seen people argue the exact opposite.
Class privilege is a thing yo. Also, I never heard anyone claim that privilege was some kind of contest where you score points by being oppressed in as many ways as possible, and in fact have pretty much only seen people argue the exact opposite.
Eh, you're new here, so I'll cut ya a little slack. You're thinking in normal SJ terms. The terms that are totally reasonable and understandable and not founded on pure, coked-up insanity. The pics are likely talking about social justice warriors; the kind who bitch about white people so much as being allowed to live while complaining that fucking otherkin are oppressed in any real sense of the term. People like Redd.
Class privilege is a thing yo. Also, I never heard anyone claim that privilege was some kind of contest where you score points by being oppressed in as many ways as possible, and in fact have pretty much only seen people argue the exact opposite.
Class privilege is a thing yo. Also, I never heard anyone claim that privilege was some kind of contest where you score points by being oppressed in as many ways as possible, and in fact have pretty much only seen people argue the exact opposite.
The Privilege Test (http://www.buzzfeed.com/regajha/how-privileged-are-you), where you score points by being oppressed in as many ways as possible.
Bonus for having it be artificially weighted by having multiple questions mean almost exactly the same thing.
I'm sleep deprived because my loving father kept letting (and shutting) the cat in my room, and my cat kept waking me up throughout the night.
I can't take a nap because, otherwise, I won't sleep tonight, and I need to get to bed at reasonable times so I can wake up as early as noon.
Being born with a sleep dysfunction really sucks.
Can you explain to him why the cat thing is a total fail to you?
I have tried. Repeatedly. He keeps going with the "But he's bothering me." defense.
I would argue it, but you don't argue with my father. You don't criticize him, either, because that's insulting.
Oddly, he enjoys it when I talk back, because he wants me to be this rebellious youth because that's a masculine thing. So I don't bother talking back.
Okay, that makes sense.Class privilege is a thing yo. Also, I never heard anyone claim that privilege was some kind of contest where you score points by being oppressed in as many ways as possible, and in fact have pretty much only seen people argue the exact opposite.
Eh, you're new here, so I'll cut ya a little slack. You're thinking in normal SJ terms. The terms that are totally reasonable and understandable and not founded on pure, coked-up insanity. The pics are likely talking about social justice warriors; the kind who bitch about white people so much as being allowed to live while complaining that fucking otherkin are oppressed in any real sense of the term. People like Redd.
Okay, that's probably why. Considering I tend to unfollow people who do stuff like that in a heartbeat that could be why I haven't been exposed to it as much.
I'm sleep deprived because my loving father kept letting (and shutting) the cat in my room, and my cat kept waking me up throughout the night.
I can't take a nap because, otherwise, I won't sleep tonight, and I need to get to bed at reasonable times so I can wake up as early as noon.
Being born with a sleep dysfunction really sucks.
Can you explain to him why the cat thing is a total fail to you?
I have tried. Repeatedly. He keeps going with the "But he's bothering me." defense.
I would argue it, but you don't argue with my father. You don't criticize him, either, because that's insulting.
Oddly, he enjoys it when I talk back, because he wants me to be this rebellious youth because that's a masculine thing. So I don't bother talking back.
Oh, one of those kinds of dads. I feel for ya, man.
Maybe there's some meds or supplements you can take to help put you to sleep. Maybe you can research some supplements online that can conk you out.
That sounds rough.I'm sleep deprived because my loving father kept letting (and shutting) the cat in my room, and my cat kept waking me up throughout the night.
I can't take a nap because, otherwise, I won't sleep tonight, and I need to get to bed at reasonable times so I can wake up as early as noon.
Being born with a sleep dysfunction really sucks.
Can you explain to him why the cat thing is a total fail to you?
I have tried. Repeatedly. He keeps going with the "But he's bothering me." defense.
I would argue it, but you don't argue with my father. You don't criticize him, either, because that's insulting.
Oddly, he enjoys it when I talk back, because he wants me to be this rebellious youth because that's a masculine thing. So I don't bother talking back.
Oh, one of those kinds of dads. I feel for ya, man.
Maybe there's some meds or supplements you can take to help put you to sleep. Maybe you can research some supplements online that can conk you out.
Zzzquil sorta works, but it also leaves me fairly... zonked out the next day, so it's six of one, half a dozen of another.
A metaphor? Is that a metaphor as seen by Cthulhu or what?
A metaphor? Is that a metaphor as seen by Cthulhu or what?
Are you seriously telling me you've never heard of Ratboy Genius?
A metaphor? Is that a metaphor as seen by Cthulhu or what?
Are you seriously telling me you've never heard of Ratboy Genius?
To which my question is, "What kind of a genius calls himself Ratboy?"
In a word, no.
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A metaphor? Is that a metaphor as seen by Cthulhu or what?
Are you seriously telling me you've never heard of Ratboy Genius?
To which my question is, "What kind of a genius calls himself Ratboy?"
In a word, no.
Oh. Well Ratboy Genius is an amazing Flash series about the adventures of a yellow rat who is also a genius. Since I don't want to derail this thread, the post Rayvonous was replying to was of a post taking the second frame from the "This is feminism" meme and replacing it with a bunch of random stills of one of the characters from Ratboy Genius. It is intended to ridicule that meme by... making fun of it, I guess. It's an ongoing thing. My personal favorite is the one where the replaced the "THIS is feminism" image with a picture of a funny green alien.
What's Xiao Xiao?A metaphor? Is that a metaphor as seen by Cthulhu or what?
Are you seriously telling me you've never heard of Ratboy Genius?
To which my question is, "What kind of a genius calls himself Ratboy?"
In a word, no.
Oh. Well Ratboy Genius is an amazing Flash series about the adventures of a yellow rat who is also a genius. Since I don't want to derail this thread, the post Rayvonous was replying to was of a post taking the second frame from the "This is feminism" meme and replacing it with a bunch of random stills of one of the characters from Ratboy Genius. It is intended to ridicule that meme by... making fun of it, I guess. It's an ongoing thing. My personal favorite is the one where the replaced the "THIS is feminism" image with a picture of a funny green alien.
Aah, that'd explain it. I've never been one for flash series outside Xiao Xiao.
What's Xiao Xiao?A metaphor? Is that a metaphor as seen by Cthulhu or what?
Are you seriously telling me you've never heard of Ratboy Genius?
To which my question is, "What kind of a genius calls himself Ratboy?"
In a word, no.
Oh. Well Ratboy Genius is an amazing Flash series about the adventures of a yellow rat who is also a genius. Since I don't want to derail this thread, the post Rayvonous was replying to was of a post taking the second frame from the "This is feminism" meme and replacing it with a bunch of random stills of one of the characters from Ratboy Genius. It is intended to ridicule that meme by... making fun of it, I guess. It's an ongoing thing. My personal favorite is the one where the replaced the "THIS is feminism" image with a picture of a funny green alien.
Aah, that'd explain it. I've never been one for flash series outside Xiao Xiao.
More importantly, privilege just means you don't face discrimination relating to your sex/race/sexuality.Okay. Sorry man.
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Class privilege is a thing yo. Also, I never heard anyone claim that privilege was some kind of contest where you score points by being oppressed in as many ways as possible, and in fact have pretty much only seen people argue the exact opposite.
Puttin is trying to assert his manly dominance by invading Ukraine, even though he is really just a jerk with short man's complex. At least that's my take on it.That's what I got out of it too. I think another layer is that the seizure is running much more on pride than brains.
Plus, he looks like a dork, hence my calling him, among other things, Gorshin The House Elf.He really does. Then when you get into the fact that virtually every world leader he's ever interacted with is considerably taller than him...
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It's funny how the Weird Batshit Crazies call themselves the only "real Christians" when they ignore the most important parts of the Bible.(http://media.cagle.com/123/2014/03/24/146189_600.jpg)
LOL! And God's, there & he's mad, too! I ROFLed at Fred's, "God Hates Fag Bag".
It's funny how the Weird Batshit Crazies call themselves the only "real Christians" when they ignore the most important parts of the Bible.(http://media.cagle.com/123/2014/03/24/146189_600.jpg)
LOL! And God's, there & he's mad, too! I ROFLed at Fred's, "God Hates Fag Bag".
Indeed it would.It's funny how the Weird Batshit Crazies call themselves the only "real Christians" when they ignore the most important parts of the Bible.(http://media.cagle.com/123/2014/03/24/146189_600.jpg)
LOL! And God's, there & he's mad, too! I ROFLed at Fred's, "God Hates Fag Bag".
Tell me about it! Also, I miss-identified St. Peter as God. Sorry 'bout that. I wonder if these solders are in fact the soldiers whose funerals they harassed? Now THAT would be a FINE touch!
Indeed it would.It's funny how the Weird Batshit Crazies call themselves the only "real Christians" when they ignore the most important parts of the Bible.(http://media.cagle.com/123/2014/03/24/146189_600.jpg)
LOL! And God's, there & he's mad, too! I ROFLed at Fred's, "God Hates Fag Bag".
Tell me about it! Also, I miss-identified St. Peter as God. Sorry 'bout that. I wonder if these solders are in fact the soldiers whose funerals they harassed? Now THAT would be a FINE touch!
Sounds good to me. ;DIndeed it would.It's funny how the Weird Batshit Crazies call themselves the only "real Christians" when they ignore the most important parts of the Bible.(http://media.cagle.com/123/2014/03/24/146189_600.jpg)
LOL! And God's, there & he's mad, too! I ROFLed at Fred's, "God Hates Fag Bag".
Tell me about it! Also, I miss-identified St. Peter as God. Sorry 'bout that. I wonder if these solders are in fact the soldiers whose funerals they harassed? Now THAT would be a FINE touch!
I got an idea for a comic!
FIRST PANEL - Fred Phelps badmouths Matthew Shepard for being gay & Jerry Falwell for not being crazy enough. Proclaims both are in Hell.
SECOND PANEL - Next panel shows Matthew Shepard in Heaven having Pina Coladas with Jesus.
THIRD PANEL - Fred finds himself in Hell with Falwell. Revenge of the Sith-style "NO" ensues.
(http://oi59.tinypic.com/edq0y.jpg]http://oi59.tinypic.com/edq0y.jpg)Okay, while this one is funny, could you lay off with these types of comics?
Oi, you're starting to look a bit one-sided there, UP.Englishness plz????
Oi, you're starting to look a bit one-sided there, UP.Englishness plz????
*monocle drops* EVERY DAY IS A GOOD BLOODY DAY FOR TEA YOU DOG-BUGGERING ARSEHOLEOi, you're starting to look a bit one-sided there, UP.Englishness plz????
I say, Lizard, it's a bloody good day for tea, mmm?
I'm honestly starting to find it kind of funny. You really must hate Tumblr, Paragon.
*monocle drops* EVERY DAY IS A GOOD BLOODY DAY FOR TEA YOU DOG-BUGGERING ARSEHOLEOi, you're starting to look a bit one-sided there, UP.Englishness plz????
I say, Lizard, it's a bloody good day for tea, mmm?
I'm honestly starting to find it kind of funny. You really must hate Tumblr, Paragon.
To be fair, there seems to be a lot about Tumblr to hate.
Then again, the same could be said for any blog site all the way back to MySpace and LiveJournal when they were things, and likely even before that.
I'm honestly starting to find it kind of funny. You really must hate Tumblr, Paragon.
To be fair, there seems to be a lot about Tumblr to hate.
Then again, the same could be said for any blog site all the way back to MySpace and LiveJournal when they were things, and likely even before that.
That's true, but it seems a little biased to only talk about the crappy stuff that goes on on Tumblr. There's just as much wrong with Reddit, for example. Of course, the extremists Reddit is known for are generally of the more right wing/libertarian persuasion, so I guess it would be kind of stereotypical for a generally liberal website like this one to make fun of Reddit.
I'm honestly starting to find it kind of funny. You really must hate Tumblr, Paragon.
To be fair, there seems to be a lot about Tumblr to hate.
Then again, the same could be said for any blog site all the way back to MySpace and LiveJournal when they were things, and likely even before that.
That's true, but it seems a little biased to only talk about the crappy stuff that goes on on Tumblr. There's just as much wrong with Reddit, for example. Of course, the extremists Reddit is known for are generally of the more right wing/libertarian persuasion, so I guess it would be kind of stereotypical for a generally liberal website like this one to make fun of Reddit.
Well, there's always r/atheism to make fun of.
Well, there's always r/atheism to make fun of.
Well, there's always r/atheism to make fun of.
Did r/atheism piss in your cheerios when you were a kid? I honestly don't understand why you hate that subreddit so much.
Weren't you told to stop with the double posting?When did you become a moderator?
Ironbite-pretty sure you were.
Well, there's always r/atheism to make fun of.
Did r/atheism piss in your cheerios when you were a kid? I honestly don't understand why you hate that subreddit so much.
Well, there's always r/atheism to make fun of.
Did r/atheism piss in your cheerios when you were a kid? I honestly don't understand why you hate that subreddit so much.
I don't "hate" r/atheism. I just think that it's kinda funny seeing a bunch of pseudo-intellectuals run around crowing about how atheism is the most superior mindset ever.
You should really just edit posts and clip them to keep them from being too long Paragon. I'm not mad and am only saying this out of concern. I'll admit that I double-post every now and again myself, but that's usually only to show that something new has been posted in a thread that people might not look at again otherwise. That justification doesn't exist here though.
r/atheism is full of exactly the kind of pretentious anti-theists that give validation to the "militant atheist" stereotype. They are one of the reasons I'm an agnostic. The agnostics seem to be the only philosophical group (aside from perhaps the Buddhists) without a significant vocal minority of douchenozzles.
r/atheism is full of exactly the kind of pretentious anti-theists that give validation to the "militant atheist" stereotype. They are one of the reasons I'm an agnostic. The agnostics seem to be the only philosophical group (aside from perhaps the Buddhists) without a significant vocal minority of douchenozzles.
I've found that most of the criticism aimed at r/atheism is projected from religious people who can't stand any criticism of their beliefs and constantly whine whenever anything is posted there.
r/atheism is full of exactly the kind of pretentious anti-theists that give validation to the "militant atheist" stereotype. They are one of the reasons I'm an agnostic. The agnostics seem to be the only philosophical group (aside from perhaps the Buddhists) without a significant vocal minority of douchenozzles.
I've found that most of the criticism aimed at r/atheism is projected from religious people who can't stand any criticism of their beliefs and constantly whine whenever anything is posted there. Besides that, r/atheism isn't any better or worse than most other subreddits.
r/atheism is full of exactly the kind of pretentious anti-theists that give validation to the "militant atheist" stereotype. They are one of the reasons I'm an agnostic. The agnostics seem to be the only philosophical group (aside from perhaps the Buddhists) without a significant vocal minority of douchenozzles.
I've found that most of the criticism aimed at r/atheism is projected from religious people who can't stand any criticism of their beliefs and constantly whine whenever anything is posted there.
So what about all of the atheists and agnostics that criticize it?
(aside from perhaps the Buddhists) without a significant vocal minority of douchenozzles.
r/atheism is full of exactly the kind of pretentious anti-theists that give validation to the "militant atheist" stereotype. They are one of the reasons I'm an agnostic. The agnostics seem to be the only philosophical group (aside from perhaps the Buddhists) without a significant vocal minority of douchenozzles.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slKULc8W7lM>/r
Just so everyone knows, the maker of the video is themselves an atheist.
The only section of reddit I've ever frequented is the TIFU (Today I Fucked Up) subreddit.
And there's your problem. 4chan, Reddit, and their imageboard ilk are the last places to go to for useful and intelligent discussion.
(http://media.cagle.com/81/2014/04/30/147887_600.jpg)Meh, feels fairly bland and overly dramatic.
And there's your problem. 4chan, Reddit, and their imageboard ilk are the last places to go to for useful and intelligent discussion.
Second to last. I'm afraid FQA takes the cake for consistently least knowledgeable discussion participants.
Reddit may be brave, but they have r/math.
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(http://media.cagle.com/123/2014/04/29/147822_600.jpg)Wants some bathtub gin for that burn?
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Love it! And really....why does a guy who hates people of color have all these girlfriends/wives/grandkids/etc. that are anything but pasty Anglo-Nordic white....or get involved in a sport involving mostly non-white players?
God knows.(http://oi60.tinypic.com/10rtm50.jpg)
Love it! And really....why does a guy who hates people of color have all these girlfriends/wives/grandkids/etc. that are anything but pasty Anglo-Nordic white....or get involved in a sport involving mostly non-white players?
Let's hope he was worth the money.God knows.(http://oi60.tinypic.com/10rtm50.jpg)
Love it! And really....why does a guy who hates people of color have all these girlfriends/wives/grandkids/etc. that are anything but pasty Anglo-Nordic white....or get involved in a sport involving mostly non-white players?
Maybe he fetishizes black & Hispanic women as these "submissive, exotic sex creatures" or sees them as an "anti-bigot 'beard'".
Why ANYONE would want to date this butt-ugly old troll is anyone's guess. All I can think of is "gold-diggers". Said women must have some seriously strong stomachs. But if THIS is the fool they wish to part money from, then I commend those ladies deeply.
Too bad they singled out California. These insanely enforced policies are ruining innocent, happy childhoods all over the country.Indeed.
And I thought it was bad when I was silently labelled a "problem child" because I drew stick figures killing one another. Granted, some of the deaths were a tad...brutal, as brutal as one could get with stick figures, but still.
And I thought it was bad when I was silently labelled a "problem child" because I drew stick figures killing one another. Granted, some of the deaths were a tad...brutal, as brutal as one could get with stick figures, but still.A KID DRAWING VIOLENT PICTURES?!?!
And I thought it was bad when I was silently labelled a "problem child" because I drew stick figures killing one another. Granted, some of the deaths were a tad...brutal, as brutal as one could get with stick figures, but still.A KID DRAWING VIOLENT PICTURES?!?!
YOU ARE TRULY A DERANGED SOCIOPATH AS ALL YOUNGE BOYS ONLY DRAW PICTURES OF ROSES AND PUPPIES!
Existing leads to violence and should be banned.Hell, why not ban existence itself?
WE ARE IN NO WAY MISSING THE POINT HERE!And I thought it was bad when I was silently labelled a "problem child" because I drew stick figures killing one another. Granted, some of the deaths were a tad...brutal, as brutal as one could get with stick figures, but still.A KID DRAWING VIOLENT PICTURES?!?!
YOU ARE TRULY A DERANGED SOCIOPATH AS ALL YOUNGE BOYS ONLY DRAW PICTURES OF ROSES AND PUPPIES!
Incidentally, a younger boy drawing pictures of roses would probably be bullied for being gay.
At that point, they'd probably switch to drawing pictures of stick bullies getting killed in horrific and/or ironic ways.
THEREFORE ROSES LEAD TO VIOLENCE AND SHOULD BE BANNED.
OF COURSE NOT! WE ARE THE LAW!WE ARE IN NO WAY MISSING THE POINT HERE!And I thought it was bad when I was silently labelled a "problem child" because I drew stick figures killing one another. Granted, some of the deaths were a tad...brutal, as brutal as one could get with stick figures, but still.A KID DRAWING VIOLENT PICTURES?!?!
YOU ARE TRULY A DERANGED SOCIOPATH AS ALL YOUNGE BOYS ONLY DRAW PICTURES OF ROSES AND PUPPIES!
Incidentally, a younger boy drawing pictures of roses would probably be bullied for being gay.
At that point, they'd probably switch to drawing pictures of stick bullies getting killed in horrific and/or ironic ways.
THEREFORE ROSES LEAD TO VIOLENCE AND SHOULD BE BANNED.
Interestingly enough Judge Dredd is meant to parody that same shortsighted attitude.OF COURSE NOT! WE ARE THE LAW!WE ARE IN NO WAY MISSING THE POINT HERE!And I thought it was bad when I was silently labelled a "problem child" because I drew stick figures killing one another. Granted, some of the deaths were a tad...brutal, as brutal as one could get with stick figures, but still.A KID DRAWING VIOLENT PICTURES?!?!
YOU ARE TRULY A DERANGED SOCIOPATH AS ALL YOUNGE BOYS ONLY DRAW PICTURES OF ROSES AND PUPPIES!
Incidentally, a younger boy drawing pictures of roses would probably be bullied for being gay.
At that point, they'd probably switch to drawing pictures of stick bullies getting killed in horrific and/or ironic ways.
THEREFORE ROSES LEAD TO VIOLENCE AND SHOULD BE BANNED.
Truly the weakest minds of our times aren't, in fact, politicians. They're school administrators.I always thought it was Reality TV stars. Then I remembered that their stupidity doesn't really hurt anybody, so I started criticizing school administrators instead.
(http://oi61.tinypic.com/2mot2yg.jpg)To be fair, that is basically the dog equivalent of a nightstick.
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Superman seems a tad on the ... small side, doesn't he?Hulk isn't so... Hulked out... either. His arms particularly look too small.
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My guess is the woman who did the posters likes more svelte types.Superman seems a tad on the ... small side, doesn't he?Hulk isn't so... Hulked out... either. His arms particularly look too small.
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THIS IS OUTRAGEOUS! ALL BODY TYPE ARE SEXY! HOW CAN SHE NOT APPRECIATE HUNKY-HULK! Kinda like most of the men who draw pin ups seem to prefer women with gravity defying breasts and impossibly skinny bodies. (Or just impossible bodies, like Liefeld does.)My guess is the woman who did the posters likes more svelte types.Superman seems a tad on the ... small side, doesn't he?Hulk isn't so... Hulked out... either. His arms particularly look too small.
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To be fair, everything Liefeld draws is impossible.THIS IS OUTRAGEOUS! ALL BODY TYPE ARE SEXY! HOW CAN SHE NOT APPRECIATE HUNKY-HULK! Kinda like most of the men who draw pin ups seem to prefer women with gravity defying breasts and impossibly skinny bodies. (Or just impossible bodies, like Liefeld does.)My guess is the woman who did the posters likes more svelte types.Superman seems a tad on the ... small side, doesn't he?Hulk isn't so... Hulked out... either. His arms particularly look too small.
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Yeah, he edgy like dat.Especially when written by Frank Miller.
Frank Millers waaaay worse than Robbie though.Yeah, he edgy like dat.Especially when written by Frank Miller.
Wait, I recognize the artist, it's TomPreston.Is it supposed to be one word?
Yeah, he edgy like dat.
Well, I'm going by his DeviantArt username, but really his name is Andrew Dobson.Wait, I recognize the artist, it's TomPreston.Is it supposed to be one word?
I love Batman standing there grabbing his Bat-crotch. ::)
There's this thing, it's called an edit button. Perhaps you should use it.Well, I always thought that if enough time passes, the edit button is unnecessary.
Surely theree is an exception when posting new material. The cracker is posting new political cartoons. Can we give the cracker a break?And there's another reason.
I've always wondered what all the hub-ub was about, or how you'd even tell that he's gay on the pitch. American football is the most homoerotic sport since professional wrestling...I doubt anyone would be able to see the difference between a gay player and a straight one.If the straight players act like this, then OH MY GOD, what are the queers going to do in the end zone when they score a touch down!?! ::)
I've always wondered what all the hub-ub was about, or how you'd even tell that he's gay on the pitch. American football is the most homoerotic sport since professional wrestling...I doubt anyone would be able to see the difference between a gay player and a straight one.If the straight players act like this, then OH MY GOD, what are the queers going to do in the end zone when they score a touch down!?! ::)
I've always wondered what all the hub-ub was about, or how you'd even tell that he's gay on the pitch. American football is the most homoerotic sport since professional wrestling...I doubt anyone would be able to see the difference between a gay player and a straight one.
I've always wondered what all the hub-ub was about, or how you'd even tell that he's gay on the pitch. American football is the most homoerotic sport since professional wrestling...I doubt anyone would be able to see the difference between a gay player and a straight one.
(http://media.cagle.com/82/2014/05/15/148537_600.jpg)Speaking of Godzilla, some conservatives have seen the movie as a Take That against Democrats because of the locations that get destroyed.
Are you really surprised? People will try to find hidden meanings in anything and everything.(http://media.cagle.com/82/2014/05/15/148537_600.jpg)Speaking of Godzilla, some conservatives have seen the movie as a Take That against Democrats because of the locations that get destroyed.
Love that cartoon. Makes a great point and is funny, too.
Climate Change Godzilla trashes the planet, picks up Jim-Bob the funny cartoon hick with a ball cap!
JIM-BOB: "I still need more proof you exist!"
GODZILLA: "Yeah, whatever....*OMMM NOMNOMNOM*......mmmmm....hick taste like sushi!"
NEXT UP.....TIN-FOIL IDIOT vs. SANDY HOOK-ZILLA!
... UP, that's fucking awesome. Thank you for posting that.You're welcome.
... UP, that's fucking awesome. Thank you for posting that.If you like that, allow me to link you to the origin site.
I wish any of my teachers growing up had been that passionate and dedicated. Unfortunately, our public school system is pretty much designed to quash any passion, curiosity and desire to learn on the parts of both teachers and students.
Zenpencils?
Isn't that the same artist who felt persecuted by negative comments to where he used - of all fucking people - Hayao Miyazaki as his personal lord and savior, riding giant mechs, destroying all those who stand against popular culture, notably "trolls"? Because I find that unforgivable.
How unforgivable? Just plain offensive. Like Hayao Miyazaki is a very critical man, he carries a lot of unpopular opinions (he hates a lot of anime, for starters, despite his numerous contributions to the medium), even declared the animation styles of the "godfather of manga" himself Osamu Tezuka "cheap and nasty". He had been subject of media outrage in native Japan numerous times, notably when he commented not too long ago about how the Japanese are unapologetic about the "comfort women" (Korean women used as sex slaves in World War II) and various other atrocities. This man was dehumanized in that comic, treated like he's just this "magical, wonderful, shiny-happy-person" that Walt Disney has been bronzed as numerous times by his own company.
(That is to say that the Walt Disney Company is typically a pretentious college student's favorite pissing target and how it is funny that Miyazaki and Studio Ghibli would agree to have Disney distribute their films to the Western world.)
(All this is also said at the risk of sounding like a pretentious bag of shit myself for once again criticizing another popular artist on the internet, much like how I've pissed out on Tom Preston a while ago here.)
Zenpencils?
Isn't that the same artist who felt persecuted by negative comments to where he used - of all fucking people - Hayao Miyazaki as his personal lord and savior, riding giant mechs, destroying all those who stand against popular culture, notably "trolls"? Because I find that unforgivable.
How unforgivable? Just plain offensive. Like Hayao Miyazaki is a very critical man, he carries a lot of unpopular opinions (he hates a lot of anime, for starters, despite his numerous contributions to the medium), even declared the animation styles of the "godfather of manga" himself Osamu Tezuka "cheap and nasty". He had been subject of media outrage in native Japan numerous times, notably when he commented not too long ago about how the Japanese are unapologetic about the "comfort women" (Korean women used as sex slaves in World War II) and various other atrocities. This man was dehumanized in that comic, treated like he's just this "magical, wonderful, shiny-happy-person" that Walt Disney has been bronzed as numerous times by his own company.
(That is to say that the Walt Disney Company is typically a pretentious college student's favorite pissing target and how it is funny that Miyazaki and Studio Ghibli would agree to have Disney distribute their films to the Western world.)
(All this is also said at the risk of sounding like a pretentious bag of shit myself for once again criticizing another popular artist on the internet, much like how I've pissed out on Tom Preston a while ago here.)
Would you mind clarifying what it is that Zen Pencils did or said that you find unforgivable?
Well, even a stopped clock is right twice a day.Zenpencils?
Isn't that the same artist who felt persecuted by negative comments to where he used - of all fucking people - Hayao Miyazaki as his personal lord and savior, riding giant mechs, destroying all those who stand against popular culture, notably "trolls"? Because I find that unforgivable.
How unforgivable? Just plain offensive. Like Hayao Miyazaki is a very critical man, he carries a lot of unpopular opinions (he hates a lot of anime, for starters, despite his numerous contributions to the medium), even declared the animation styles of the "godfather of manga" himself Osamu Tezuka "cheap and nasty". He had been subject of media outrage in native Japan numerous times, notably when he commented not too long ago about how the Japanese are unapologetic about the "comfort women" (Korean women used as sex slaves in World War II) and various other atrocities. This man was dehumanized in that comic, treated like he's just this "magical, wonderful, shiny-happy-person" that Walt Disney has been bronzed as numerous times by his own company.
(That is to say that the Walt Disney Company is typically a pretentious college student's favorite pissing target and how it is funny that Miyazaki and Studio Ghibli would agree to have Disney distribute their films to the Western world.)
(All this is also said at the risk of sounding like a pretentious bag of shit myself for once again criticizing another popular artist on the internet, much like how I've pissed out on Tom Preston a while ago here.)
Would you mind clarifying what it is that Zen Pencils did or said that you find unforgivable?
This is an abridgement of what I've pointed out in my previous post. (http://dickjarvisblogblog.tumblr.com/post/80190090443/i-love-zen-pencils-because-its-not-manipulative)
I should also mention this is the same person who condemns social media, even comparing it to heroin and other hard drugs. (http://zenpencils.com/comic/129-marc-maron-the-social-media-generation/) As one person pointed out, he has made money off a social media as well, completely contradicting what has to be another insipid "New Media Is Evil" comic, hosted on "New Media".
This man is fucking crazy.
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(http://media.cagle.com/137/2014/05/26/148902_600.jpg)It's funny cus Mikey hates welfare, food stamps, and raising the minimum wage. Y'know, things that could actually help the millions of unemployed Soldiers.
Even a stopped clock...(http://media.cagle.com/137/2014/05/26/148902_600.jpg)It's funny cus Mikey hates welfare, food stamps, and raising the minimum wage. Y'know, things that could actually help the millions of unemployed Soldiers.
I still can't right-click on my computer (http://pic.twitter.com/7ztpqcnZcf).I can:
WHat is that cartoon referencing? I get the Independence Day reference, I just don't get what real-life event it's based on.
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Indeed she will.(http://media.cagle.com/118/2014/05/28/148994_600.jpg)
Maya passed away?! Oh wow. Bless her. She will be missed.
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(http://media.cagle.com/132/2014/05/26/148895_600.jpg)Thinking in context of the recent movie, this image is pretty ironic but funny.
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It's mocking Uganda's homophobic laws.(http://media.cagle.com/179/2014/05/29/149055_600.jpg)
Um, I don't get it.
...What's with the people's faces looking like particularly coherent bits of fractal art? Is this Grim Fandango's world of the living?I was just wondering that myself.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eh6OM3Mii1QFixed.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eh6OM3Mii1Q
scary accurate, I think...That's why it's so funny.
Some day, I will understand why people think it's a good idea to use poorly-animated, robot-voiced video to present content which really should be text-only.
I want to punch the guy who invented those things.Some day, I will understand why people think it's a good idea to use poorly-animated, robot-voiced video to present content which really should be text-only.
The Internet seems to like videos too much in general. One of the greatest days in the future of the Internet will be the day when advertisers realise how little auto-playing videos work. Then again, if they didn't learn from MySpace-
Is there context to that?
Yeah.Is there context to that?
The racist stripper who screamed at a black guy for starting his car in a parking lot.
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(https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/8209980160/hC008AF52/)1) Known design flaw originally determined to be an acceptable risk since bean counters decided it was cheaper to pay for the lawsuits.
(http://media.cagle.com/82/2014/06/06/149454_600.jpg)Regulations might hamper the non-renewable toxic substance that will most likely run out very soon and which our entire economy is based upon!
(http://media.cagle.com/82/2014/06/06/149454_600.jpg)Regulations might hamper the non-renewable toxic substance that will most likely run out very soon and which our entire economy is based upon!
(https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/8209980160/hC008AF52/)1) Known design flaw originally determined to be an acceptable risk since bean counters decided it was cheaper to pay for the lawsuits.
2) A design flaw that seriously eroded customer confidence and prompted an immediate recall and redesign to regain that confidence despite being a localized problem.
3) Operating as intended and with a very good safety record; of the millions of rounds discharged annually, a vanishingly small amount of accidents can be directly attributed to a defective firearm.
(http://media.cagle.com/82/2014/06/06/149454_600.jpg)Regulations might hamper the non-renewable toxic substance that will most likely run out very soon and which our entire economy is based upon!
Also, I think that massive tropical storms would have a greater detrimental impact on the economy than CO2 regulations.
(https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/8209980160/hC008AF52/)1) Known design flaw originally determined to be an acceptable risk since bean counters decided it was cheaper to pay for the lawsuits.
2) A design flaw that seriously eroded customer confidence and prompted an immediate recall and redesign to regain that confidence despite being a localized problem.
3) Operating as intended and with a very good safety record; of the millions of rounds discharged annually, a vanishingly small amount of accidents can be directly attributed to a defective firearm.
But the whole point is that they're being used correctly! That's what everyone is afraid of!
(https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/8209980160/hC008AF52/)1) Known design flaw originally determined to be an acceptable risk since bean counters decided it was cheaper to pay for the lawsuits.
2) A design flaw that seriously eroded customer confidence and prompted an immediate recall and redesign to regain that confidence despite being a localized problem.
3) Operating as intended and with a very good safety record; of the millions of rounds discharged annually, a vanishingly small amount of accidents can be directly attributed to a defective firearm.
But the whole point is that they're being used correctly! That's what everyone is afraid of!
Recalls are for defective products. Regulations are to ensure that products are used in a safe manner.
Tort law and improvements in NTSB safety regulations prevent another Pinto. Changes to FDA packaging regulations prevent a Tylenol repeat.
I think you didn't read the entire sentence. "a vanishingly small amount of accidents can be directly attributed to a defective firearm."(https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/8209980160/hC008AF52/)1) Known design flaw originally determined to be an acceptable risk since bean counters decided it was cheaper to pay for the lawsuits.
2) A design flaw that seriously eroded customer confidence and prompted an immediate recall and redesign to regain that confidence despite being a localized problem.
3) Operating as intended and with a very good safety record; of the millions of rounds discharged annually, a vanishingly small amount of accidents can be directly attributed to a defective firearm.
But the whole point is that they're being used correctly! That's what everyone is afraid of!
Recalls are for defective products. Regulations are to ensure that products are used in a safe manner.
Tort law and improvements in NTSB safety regulations prevent another Pinto. Changes to FDA packaging regulations prevent a Tylenol repeat.
Ok lets go with that second statement about regulations.
Remember when you say "vanishingly small amount of accidents" that's hundreds every year. Actually thousands if some studies are accurate. So what constitutes "vanishingly small " might be up for debate. Certainly accidental gun deaths are more then 27 or 7
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/tag/accidental-shooting/
http://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/terrible-tally-500-children-dead-gunshots-every-year-7-500-f8C11469222
any way I would point out that we do already regulate products when shown they are dangerous, even if that when that danger is in with in it's"proper use"
Cigarettes. When properly used they lead to chronic ill health and eventual death for thousands.
We still regulated them.
….I think you didn't read the entire sentence. "a vanishingly small amount of accidents can be directly attributed to a defective firearm."
….I think you didn't read the entire sentence. "a vanishingly small amount of accidents can be directly attributed to a defective firearm."
Majority of accidents with weapons are due to user error.
If the guns goes off when you look at it the wrong way, that is caused by a defective firearm, when it goes off because someone was playing with it and didn't check if it was loaded that is user error.
Which actually isn't' that important if you think about it since even if we are talking about user error, that means guns are designed to make killing way too easy.
unintended consequence, inherent flaw or designers just didn't' give a fuck, the effect ends up the same.
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I guess that's what they mean by "don't tread on me."Aren't snakes one of the creatures that are a legitimate threat to them?
I guess that's what they mean by "don't tread on me."Aren't snakes one of the creatures that are a legitimate threat to them?
(http://media.cagle.com/77/2014/06/11/149661_600.jpg)At first I thought this might be a coincidence but then I remembered how old this game is: http://youtu.be/BPYQCj7wgcE?t=35s
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To me "No True Scotsman" is a good argument only when the arguer does something about the maniacs who make zir look bad (and or help the person wronged).
If a nice normal guy is miffed by slimy misogynists, he should tell said misogynists to "shove it".
Same.(https://31.media.tumblr.com/97237d6809f9f0044e7a775960324771/tumblr_n6pe1sez7b1qfr34wo1_500.jpg)
To me "No True Scotsman" is a good argument only when the arguer does something about the maniacs who make zir look bad (and or help the person wronged).
If a nice normal guy is miffed by slimy misogynists, he should tell said misogynists to "shove it".
While the cartoon only illustrates the people who immediately jump on the "not all" bandwagon at the first hint that someone in a group they belong to might have done something wrong, I do think it's understandable for someone to get frustrated when people make sweeping, all-encompassing statements about said groups. I tell misogynists and racists to shove it constantly, but I can still sometimes get angry when someone makes a comment about how "all men are rapist pigs who think about nothing but sex" or "all white people are racist bigots who want to rule the world."
(http://d3dsacqprgcsqh.cloudfront.net/photo/aOqLPL2_700b.jpg)One thing that should be kept in mind is that shitty tabloid journalism is nothing new. Just ask Fatty Arbuckle.
plaid pants... which actually were popular in some areas back in the 80's.I think just about every decade has its share of tacky fashions.
plaid pants... which actually were popular in some areas back in the 80's.I think just about every decade has its share of tacky fashions.
plaid pants... which actually were popular in some areas back in the 80's.I think just about every decade has its share of tacky fashions.
Except the 90s. We had Jnco. I wish they hadn't died off, they were the best pants ever.
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Thank you, Spuki.
...*blinks out of unison* .... Oh, I get it.Exactly.
Two people who have vilified each other are now united to save themselves from a common foe.
For context, they just fined and banned a Uruguayan player for biting another player. Again. He apparently does this OFTEN.Maybe they should make him wear a muzzle.
For context, they just fined and banned a Uruguayan player for biting another player. Again. He apparently does this OFTEN.
I think that goes into "what the fuck is wrong with you?" territory.For context, they just fined and banned a Uruguayan player for biting another player. Again. He apparently does this OFTEN.
It's the third time. Some bookmakers were even offering odds on whether Suarez would bite someone at the World Cup Finals.
I think that goes into "what the fuck is wrong with you?" territory.For context, they just fined and banned a Uruguayan player for biting another player. Again. He apparently does this OFTEN.
It's the third time. Some bookmakers were even offering odds on whether Suarez would bite someone at the World Cup Finals.
Awesome!
THAT one is just funny!I thought so too.
...what the fuck does it have to do with anything?
...what the fuck does it have to do with anything?
Well, since you obviously haven't been following the soccer games: There was a player who bit another player. And we are not talking about a little love bite, it left some bloody toothmarks on his shoulder, naturally the president of his country claimed that the video had been photoshopped and the player had been framed. There was also controversy because he was known to be a biter, this was something that had happened a few times already but he had been allowed to play because the league likes money and not letting a big-name player play might have been counter to that goal.
Anyway, that incident has now been made fun of all over the internet and media and it has even been used in commercials.
...what the fuck does it have to do with anything?
Well, since you obviously haven't been following the soccer games: There was a player who bit another player. And we are not talking about a little love bite, it left some bloody toothmarks on his shoulder, naturally the president of his country claimed that the video had been photoshopped and the player had been framed. There was also controversy because he was known to be a biter, this was something that had happened a few times already but he had been allowed to play because the league likes money and not letting a big-name player play might have been counter to that goal.
Anyway, that incident has now been made fun of all over the internet and media and it has even been used in commercials.
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Actually, that might spoil the joke a bit. The point is that the reader realises that the questions are highly inappropriate and the explanation for those comes when the comic points out that trans* persons face those types of questions quite often.*comic*
This comic would make its point much more effectively if it showed that the man asking the questions was trans and that the straight couple had asked those questions first.
Ouch...I'll say.
Don't we have some sort of military protection agreement with Japan? Like, if they were to be attacked, we'd come to their aid?I think the idea is that Abe wants Japan to have a true partnership with America.
Don't we have some sort of military protection agreement with Japan? Like, if they were to be attacked, we'd come to their aid?
I think Abe wants Japan to be able to stand on its own two feet.Don't we have some sort of military protection agreement with Japan? Like, if they were to be attacked, we'd come to their aid?
Yeah. Basically the US subsidises Japan's defence by stationing troops there, in return for money.
It's not as if Abe wants to end the US-Japan alliance. Japan has been slowly moving towards ending the arrangement where the US stations troops in Japan. Instead, Japan would simply follow the model of most Western nations, relying primarily on its own troops for defense, but maintaining alliances with other nations. I think we'd see the closure of most US bases in Japan, with maybe a few to provide regional support, similar to our bases in Germany and Qatar.Basically.
Hell, Japan wouldn't even need to rely on US-made weapons. They did make just about everything they used in World War II - given some time, it would be well within their capability to develop a first-rate defense industry.That might help their economy.
Hell, Japan wouldn't even need to rely on US-made weapons. They did make just about everything they used in World War II - given some time, it would be well within their capability to develop a first-rate defense industry....Sometimes making your own equipment is not the smartest idea.
Hell, Japan wouldn't even need to rely on US-made weapons. They did make just about everything they used in World War II - given some time, it would be well within their capability to develop a first-rate defense industry....Sometimes making your own equipment is not the smartest idea.
I can't help but remember that the small arms of the Japanese military in WW2 were all bad. They had one LMG that was innovative and not completely horribly but the rest of their gear was just bad. They used rifle caliber guns in their airplanes which weren't powerful enough to be a credible threat to American airplanes and their tanks weren't really good either.
...This time I'm sure they could do much better (for example, I doubt that they don't insist on placing bayonets on machineguns these days...) but their last attempts to make their own guns did not go well.
Hell, Japan wouldn't even need to rely on US-made weapons. They did make just about everything they used in World War II - given some time, it would be well within their capability to develop a first-rate defense industry.
Japan actually makes a fair bit of their current military equipment. Your just never hear about it because they refuse to export it and it doesn't get much use because of Japan's rather small military.
Japan actually makes a fair bit of their current military equipment. Your just never hear about it because they refuse to export it and it doesn't get much use because of Japan's rather small military.
I think this belongs here...You know, there's a psychological principle where we make ourselves feel better by looking at worse people. It's why so many people watch Jerry Springer, so they can think "yeah, my daughter might be failing math, but at least she doesn't want to be a stripper". They call it "Downward social comparison".
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If only Americans were as critical of U.S. propaganda as North Korean propaganda...Define "American propaganda".
If only Americans were as critical of U.S. propaganda as North Korean propaganda...Define "American propaganda".
Please, that's hardly comparable.If only Americans were as critical of U.S. propaganda as North Korean propaganda...Define "American propaganda".
"America has the best health care system in the world!"
"America has the fairest distribution of wealth in the world!"
"Anyone can become successful in America if they just work hard!"
"Giving tax cuts to the rich will boost the economy!"
Mnnnuuuhhmmmmmerrrruhh...Please, that's hardly comparable.If only Americans were as critical of U.S. propaganda as North Korean propaganda...Define "American propaganda".
"America has the best health care system in the world!"
"America has the fairest distribution of wealth in the world!"
"Anyone can become successful in America if they just work hard!"
"Giving tax cuts to the rich will boost the economy!"
How, exactly? It's not like we're completely isolated from different viewpoints. It's not like we're sent to a labor camp for watching foreign news media. It's not like people with different viewpoints are executed after show trials. It's not like our children are taught to kill foreigners in school. It's not like our government makes racist statements about the leaders of enemy nations. It's not like we treat our presidents like deities.Mnnnuuuhhmmmmmerrrruhh...Please, that's hardly comparable.If only Americans were as critical of U.S. propaganda as North Korean propaganda...Define "American propaganda".
"America has the best health care system in the world!"
"America has the fairest distribution of wealth in the world!"
"Anyone can become successful in America if they just work hard!"
"Giving tax cuts to the rich will boost the economy!"
Yeah, it actually kinda is comparable.
How, exactly? It's not like we're completely isolated from different viewpoints. It's not like we're sent to a labor camp for watching foreign news media.
It's not like people with different viewpoints are executed after show trials.
It's not like our children are taught to kill foreigners in school.
It's not like our government makes racist statements about the leaders of enemy nations.
It's not like we treat our presidents like deities.
Again I ask, how?
There's one element you seem to be ignoring: the lack of dissenting voices. When you have real dissent, you can't compare it to North Korea with any kind of intellectual honesty. Moreover, just about all North Korean propaganda comes from the government, directly or indirectly. Here, however, a lot of this "propaganda" you talk about comes from independent media outlets, businesses, private citizens, etc. And quite a bit of it is in direct opposition to the government's views and goals. Apples and oranges, buddy.How, exactly? It's not like we're completely isolated from different viewpoints. It's not like we're sent to a labor camp for watching foreign news media.
Both sets of propaganda teach an absolutist "our state is the best and all others are inferior and untrustworthy" narrative.QuoteIt's not like people with different viewpoints are executed after show trials.
Both sets of propoganda promote myths about how wealth is distributed in their society. Both place a false emphasis on meritocracy, which in turn encourages giving more wealth and power to the wealthy and powerful. Both attempt to silence argument and dissent, though in America this is more likely to be through media censorship than outright imprisonment.QuoteIt's not like our children are taught to kill foreigners in school.
No, just to view their cultures and beliefs as inferior and unworthy of consideration, while parroting a lot of "America! Fuck yeah!" jingoism.QuoteIt's not like our government makes racist statements about the leaders of enemy nations.
No, but absolutist ones such as Shrub Jr.'s "axis of evil" speech still encourage people to view other countries and cultures as "lesser" and "evil" without qualification.QuoteIt's not like we treat our presidents like deities.
Maybe not explicitly, but being able to claim with a straight face that your leader has a direct line to God is only one step removed, not to mention criticism of Obama being shut down by screaming "racism!" rather than examining its merits. Yes, a lot of Obama critics ARE racist, but that doesn't mean all criticism of him is motivated by it.QuoteAgain I ask, how?
I'm not saying that the U.S. is exactly like North Korea, but there are many more parallels than you seem willing to admit. Your words say "comparability", but your usage seems to be demanding exact equivalence.
There's one element you seem to be ignoring: the lack of dissenting voices. When you have real dissent, you can't compare it to North Korea with any kind of intellectual honesty. Moreover, just about all North Korean propaganda comes from the government, directly or indirectly. Here, however, a lot of this "propaganda" you talk about comes from independent media outlets, businesses, private citizens, etc. And quite a bit of it is in direct opposition to the government's views and goals. Apples and oranges, buddy.
That said, the reverence of soldiers is a nail being hit on the head right there. You can't dare say a thing against "the troops"* without invoking the wrath of everyone around you. The others, I'll only state that a lot of them depend on the region you're in. The USA is a very regionalist country. Even just twenty miles can separate a vast political gulf**.
I'd say it should be the other way around...people earn your respect as an individual first, rather than having it granted because they chose a particular career path. I've met a LOT of veterans, and maybe 10% of those I've met enlisted for any reason more noble than "steady paycheck, three hots and a cot." You can respect the fact that a person's job puts them at risk without having an opinion on the person themselves.
I'm gonna say that while it is true the US has a culture of propaganda, it's not as bad as North Korea simply because generally when i criticize the government me and my entire family aren't shipped off to a death camp to be put on starvation diets.
Well, in my experience, most members of the armed forces are respectable. Maybe I've just been lucky in that regard. And maybe this has colored my perceptions.Maybe you have been lucky, because my experience all of the soldiers I've ever known -- which would include one of my best friends -- were fucked in the head.
Well, in my experience, most members of the armed forces are respectable. Maybe I've just been lucky in that regard. And maybe this has colored my perceptions.Maybe you have been lucky, because my experience all of the soldiers I've ever known -- which would include one of my best friends -- were fucked in the head.
Of course, this could be a regional thing since here in Canada we have a rather small military so it is not a particularly attractive or viable career path for someone just looking for a job.
Yeah. It's small, but it's not to be fucked with.Well, in my experience, most members of the armed forces are respectable. Maybe I've just been lucky in that regard. And maybe this has colored my perceptions.Maybe you have been lucky, because my experience all of the soldiers I've ever known -- which would include one of my best friends -- were fucked in the head.
Of course, this could be a regional thing since here in Canada we have a rather small military so it is not a particularly attractive or viable career path for someone just looking for a job.
Canada has a military?
There's one element you seem to be ignoring: the lack of dissenting voices. When you have real dissent, you can't compare it to North Korea with any kind of intellectual honesty. Moreover, just about all North Korean propaganda comes from the government, directly or indirectly. Here, however, a lot of this "propaganda" you talk about comes from independent media outlets, businesses, private citizens, etc. And quite a bit of it is in direct opposition to the government's views and goals. Apples and oranges, buddy.
Debating where to put this but it does sort of belong here...
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Debating where to put this but it does sort of belong here...
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Fun Fact: New Zealand is the only country were you can legally distill alcohol without a shit ton of paperwork, permits, and taxes.
So, um...I found it on Cagle. That's good enough for me.
How's that political though?
I realize this is a polandball cartoon, but it feels like it fits here...(click to show/hide)
Nope, the proper way to read Polandball is with silly accents.I realize this is a polandball cartoon, but it feels like it fits here...(click to show/hide)
Is it weird that I heard the Hetalia voices in my head while reading this?
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"But that advertising was so annoying!"(click to show/hide)
Good luck with that Vandalism charge.
It's a Homage to Banksy - who is rather an acclaimed artist these days.I know. I saw his name. I was just having a laugh.
It's a Homage to Banksy - who is rather an acclaimed artist these days.
He's like Madonna - Fred.
Indeed, for Banksy is the master of the magick art of "getting rid of the evidence".He's like Madonna - Fred.
Isn't that a thing, though? That nobody really knows who he is?
If all you're doing is dragging a block for fun and exercise that might work.Yes but the guy above is not only being aggressive, but is also adding his own weight to the project.
If you're trying to build a pyramid you might actually want somebody in charge of organizing the whole shit show.
The leader is in charge of the project. He/she is leading the way and therefore we could assume that the project is going in the direction he wants it to go.If all you're doing is dragging a block for fun and exercise that might work.Yes but the guy above is not only being aggressive, but is also adding his own weight to the project.
If you're trying to build a pyramid you might actually want somebody in charge of organizing the whole shit show.
There is a reason kings and generals stopped leading from the front of their armies and it isn't cowardice. They started standing on a hill watching the entire thing unfold because it is the only way to make sense of it and gain control of the situation so that the people involved aren't just wasting lives and resources pointlessly.The leader is in charge of the project. He/she is leading the way and therefore we could assume that the project is going in the direction he wants it to go.If all you're doing is dragging a block for fun and exercise that might work.Yes but the guy above is not only being aggressive, but is also adding his own weight to the project.
If you're trying to build a pyramid you might actually want somebody in charge of organizing the whole shit show.
(I've actually seen that picture once or twice at some jobs I had.)
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You know what makes it even worse? He actually made a child abuse prevention video:(http://assets-production-webvanta-com.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/000000/16/70/original/Cartoons/m_140703tt.jpg)
I looked up this guy (I'm American & he never had a following here). Yeesh, it's like Jimmy Savile all over again!
(Had no idea who Jimmy Savile was, initially, either)
So, it was like He-Man telling me to tell my...priest when I was abused?You know what makes it even worse? He actually made a child abuse prevention video:(http://assets-production-webvanta-com.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/000000/16/70/original/Cartoons/m_140703tt.jpg)
I looked up this guy (I'm American & he never had a following here). Yeesh, it's like Jimmy Savile all over again!
(Had no idea who Jimmy Savile was, initially, either)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhDaJs3loOA
Fucking hypocrite.
You know what makes it even worse? He actually made a child abuse prevention video:(http://assets-production-webvanta-com.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/000000/16/70/original/Cartoons/m_140703tt.jpg)
I looked up this guy (I'm American & he never had a following here). Yeesh, it's like Jimmy Savile all over again!
(Had no idea who Jimmy Savile was, initially, either)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhDaJs3loOA
Fucking hypocrite.
So, to make a long story short, fuck him.You know what makes it even worse? He actually made a child abuse prevention video:(http://assets-production-webvanta-com.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/000000/16/70/original/Cartoons/m_140703tt.jpg)
I looked up this guy (I'm American & he never had a following here). Yeesh, it's like Jimmy Savile all over again!
(Had no idea who Jimmy Savile was, initially, either)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhDaJs3loOA
Fucking hypocrite.
*Yecch*! It's like this guy, an NFL star who had a strong pro-woman/feminism image....he turned out to be a serial rapist of women....
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/16/sports/football/ex-nfl-star-who-spoke-out-for-women-is-accused-of-being-a-rapist.html?_r=0
I guess that's one of the techniques of a predator/sociopath/psychopath......act like someone who loathes the behavior & mindset of the person you really are, that way no one would suspect you. Even if you're caught, otherwise sane people will defend you because they don't want to believe the truth.
I wish there was some sort of ASPD-Detector. It would save a lot of folks grief. Just point it at a person....*schazap*...."DEFICIENT EMPATHY! ANTI-SOCIAL PERSONALITY DETECTED! ABORT! ABORT!"
So, to make a long story short, fuck him.
Well, he's probably not your type.So, to make a long story short, fuck him.
I'd rather not.
I wish there was some sort of ASPD-Detector. It would save a lot of folks grief. Just point it at a person....*schazap*...."DEFICIENT EMPATHY! ANTI-SOCIAL PERSONALITY DETECTED! ABORT! ABORT!"
(http://media.cagle.com/139/2014/07/09/150744_600.jpg)The problem with these kind of cartoons is that it fails to acknowledge the death toll the is extremely lobsided for Palestinians.
Israel is the greatest military power in the Middle East, and it can't shut down it's home-grown secessionist terrorist problem even with all our tax dollars.You make it sound as if Israel is deliberately targeting innocent people. While the deaths of innocent Palestinians are undoubtedly tragic, it's hardly an industrial-scale My Lai. Besides, Hamas must shoulder some of the blame because of their cowardly tactics.
I say, we cut it's foreign aid if they're just going to use it to make weapons to kill civilians. That's a war crime, no matter how my brother or anybody else tries to slice it as "anti-terrorism". Even worse, this diverts the government's attentions from the problems like poverty with a poverty rate of 20%
In addition, it's clear that Israel makes our early 2000s America look horrendous. For instance, 1000 Palestinians were killed on the grounds of "500 of them were militants".
Unacceptable for a democratic state, much less a explicit ally of the United States.
Israel is the greatest military power in the Middle East, and it can't shut down it's home-grown secessionist terrorist problem even with all our tax dollars.You make it sound as if Israel is deliberately targeting innocent people. While the deaths of innocent Palestinians are undoubtedly tragic, it's hardly an industrial-scale My Lai. Besides, Hamas must shoulder some of the blame because of their cowardly tactics.
I say, we cut it's foreign aid if they're just going to use it to make weapons to kill civilians. That's a war crime, no matter how my brother or anybody else tries to slice it as "anti-terrorism". Even worse, this diverts the government's attentions from the problems like poverty with a poverty rate of 20%
In addition, it's clear that Israel makes our early 2000s America look horrendous. For instance, 1000 Palestinians were killed on the grounds of "500 of them were militants".
Unacceptable for a democratic state, much less a explicit ally of the United States.
Israel is the greatest military power in the Middle East, and it can't shut down it's home-grown secessionist terrorist problem even with all our tax dollars.You make it sound as if Israel is deliberately targeting innocent people. While the deaths of innocent Palestinians are undoubtedly tragic, it's hardly an industrial-scale My Lai. Besides, Hamas must shoulder some of the blame because of their cowardly tactics.
I say, we cut it's foreign aid if they're just going to use it to make weapons to kill civilians. That's a war crime, no matter how my brother or anybody else tries to slice it as "anti-terrorism". Even worse, this diverts the government's attentions from the problems like poverty with a poverty rate of 20%
In addition, it's clear that Israel makes our early 2000s America look horrendous. For instance, 1000 Palestinians were killed on the grounds of "500 of them were militants".
Unacceptable for a democratic state, much less a explicit ally of the United States.
Israel is the greatest military power in the Middle East, and it can't shut down it's home-grown secessionist terrorist problem even with all our tax dollars.You make it sound as if Israel is deliberately targeting innocent people. While the deaths of innocent Palestinians are undoubtedly tragic, it's hardly an industrial-scale My Lai. Besides, Hamas must shoulder some of the blame because of their cowardly tactics.
I say, we cut it's foreign aid if they're just going to use it to make weapons to kill civilians. That's a war crime, no matter how my brother or anybody else tries to slice it as "anti-terrorism". Even worse, this diverts the government's attentions from the problems like poverty with a poverty rate of 20%
In addition, it's clear that Israel makes our early 2000s America look horrendous. For instance, 1000 Palestinians were killed on the grounds of "500 of them were militants".
Unacceptable for a democratic state, much less a explicit ally of the United States.
Not as cowardly as holding somebody incommunicado before trying them before a military court, is it?
Or using human shields.
Or targeted killings.
@lizard: the death toll is always more lopsided for the grunts and the civilians. i guarantee that if it was a high-command versus high-command slugfest, we'd see more peace talks and less urban bombing.I meant that the death toll in palestine was higher than in israel.
after studying the israel vs palestine conflict, i can safely say that neither is the good guy. i know quite a few israeli exiles in my area. i've never met bigger antisemites. the rare palestinians i know hate both warring governments equally. i don't care for politics, but seeing an israeli calling for the public flogging of netanyahu is sufficiently jarring for me to take note that it's a sterile conflict driven more by ego than outright demands, in which the only casualties are the ones who didn't ask for any of that shit.
regarding the comic, i like to interpret the word "side" to refer to the political organizations rather than the troopers themselves. the troopers aren't doing anything to keep the fight alive, it's the brass that's slinging insults at each other.
Since when does the IDF use human shields? That's a tactic Hamas uses.Israel is the greatest military power in the Middle East, and it can't shut down it's home-grown secessionist terrorist problem even with all our tax dollars.You make it sound as if Israel is deliberately targeting innocent people. While the deaths of innocent Palestinians are undoubtedly tragic, it's hardly an industrial-scale My Lai. Besides, Hamas must shoulder some of the blame because of their cowardly tactics.
I say, we cut it's foreign aid if they're just going to use it to make weapons to kill civilians. That's a war crime, no matter how my brother or anybody else tries to slice it as "anti-terrorism". Even worse, this diverts the government's attentions from the problems like poverty with a poverty rate of 20%
In addition, it's clear that Israel makes our early 2000s America look horrendous. For instance, 1000 Palestinians were killed on the grounds of "500 of them were militants".
Unacceptable for a democratic state, much less a explicit ally of the United States.
Not as cowardly as holding somebody incommunicado before trying them before a military court, is it?
Or using human shields.
Or targeted killings.
And it was banned by Israel's High Court of Justice. Besides, Hamas got that ball rolling.Since when does the IDF use human shields? That's a tactic Hamas uses.Israel is the greatest military power in the Middle East, and it can't shut down it's home-grown secessionist terrorist problem even with all our tax dollars.You make it sound as if Israel is deliberately targeting innocent people. While the deaths of innocent Palestinians are undoubtedly tragic, it's hardly an industrial-scale My Lai. Besides, Hamas must shoulder some of the blame because of their cowardly tactics.
I say, we cut it's foreign aid if they're just going to use it to make weapons to kill civilians. That's a war crime, no matter how my brother or anybody else tries to slice it as "anti-terrorism". Even worse, this diverts the government's attentions from the problems like poverty with a poverty rate of 20%
In addition, it's clear that Israel makes our early 2000s America look horrendous. For instance, 1000 Palestinians were killed on the grounds of "500 of them were militants".
Unacceptable for a democratic state, much less a explicit ally of the United States.
Not as cowardly as holding somebody incommunicado before trying them before a military court, is it?
Or using human shields.
Or targeted killings.
It's a documented fact, by HRW, AI, and the UN.
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Michael Sam becoming the first openly gay player in the NFL.(http://www.hoodedutilitarian.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/Darkhow-John-Barrier-Breaker-2014.jpg)
Anyone wanna tell me what this comic is referring to?
And Israel's military is still doing it.And it was banned by Israel's High Court of Justice. Besides, Hamas got that ball rolling.Since when does the IDF use human shields? That's a tactic Hamas uses.Israel is the greatest military power in the Middle East, and it can't shut down it's home-grown secessionist terrorist problem even with all our tax dollars.You make it sound as if Israel is deliberately targeting innocent people. While the deaths of innocent Palestinians are undoubtedly tragic, it's hardly an industrial-scale My Lai. Besides, Hamas must shoulder some of the blame because of their cowardly tactics.
I say, we cut it's foreign aid if they're just going to use it to make weapons to kill civilians. That's a war crime, no matter how my brother or anybody else tries to slice it as "anti-terrorism". Even worse, this diverts the government's attentions from the problems like poverty with a poverty rate of 20%
In addition, it's clear that Israel makes our early 2000s America look horrendous. For instance, 1000 Palestinians were killed on the grounds of "500 of them were militants".
Unacceptable for a democratic state, much less a explicit ally of the United States.
Not as cowardly as holding somebody incommunicado before trying them before a military court, is it?
Or using human shields.
Or targeted killings.
It's a documented fact, by HRW, AI, and the UN.
Oh please. You talk as if Israel is committing outright genocide.And Israel's military is still doing it.And it was banned by Israel's High Court of Justice. Besides, Hamas got that ball rolling.Since when does the IDF use human shields? That's a tactic Hamas uses.Israel is the greatest military power in the Middle East, and it can't shut down it's home-grown secessionist terrorist problem even with all our tax dollars.You make it sound as if Israel is deliberately targeting innocent people. While the deaths of innocent Palestinians are undoubtedly tragic, it's hardly an industrial-scale My Lai. Besides, Hamas must shoulder some of the blame because of their cowardly tactics.
I say, we cut it's foreign aid if they're just going to use it to make weapons to kill civilians. That's a war crime, no matter how my brother or anybody else tries to slice it as "anti-terrorism". Even worse, this diverts the government's attentions from the problems like poverty with a poverty rate of 20%
In addition, it's clear that Israel makes our early 2000s America look horrendous. For instance, 1000 Palestinians were killed on the grounds of "500 of them were militants".
Unacceptable for a democratic state, much less a explicit ally of the United States.
Not as cowardly as holding somebody incommunicado before trying them before a military court, is it?
Or using human shields.
Or targeted killings.
It's a documented fact, by HRW, AI, and the UN.
Ironbite-because they don't care as long as a single Palestinian lives
Oh please. You talk as if Israel is committing outright genocide.And Israel's military is still doing it.And it was banned by Israel's High Court of Justice. Besides, Hamas got that ball rolling.Since when does the IDF use human shields? That's a tactic Hamas uses.Israel is the greatest military power in the Middle East, and it can't shut down it's home-grown secessionist terrorist problem even with all our tax dollars.You make it sound as if Israel is deliberately targeting innocent people. While the deaths of innocent Palestinians are undoubtedly tragic, it's hardly an industrial-scale My Lai. Besides, Hamas must shoulder some of the blame because of their cowardly tactics.
I say, we cut it's foreign aid if they're just going to use it to make weapons to kill civilians. That's a war crime, no matter how my brother or anybody else tries to slice it as "anti-terrorism". Even worse, this diverts the government's attentions from the problems like poverty with a poverty rate of 20%
In addition, it's clear that Israel makes our early 2000s America look horrendous. For instance, 1000 Palestinians were killed on the grounds of "500 of them were militants".
Unacceptable for a democratic state, much less a explicit ally of the United States.
Not as cowardly as holding somebody incommunicado before trying them before a military court, is it?
Or using human shields.
Or targeted killings.
It's a documented fact, by HRW, AI, and the UN.
Ironbite-because they don't care as long as a single Palestinian lives
Oh, fuck off. Yes, there are wingnuts calling for the genocide of Palestinians. Yes, what Israel does is questionable. But it's not genocide. Are Palestinians being worked to death, or shot on sight, or herded into gas chambers? No, they're not. That kind of exaggerated, dangerous, irresponsible rhetoric only hurts your case and the Palestinian cause.Oh please. You talk as if Israel is committing outright genocide.And Israel's military is still doing it.And it was banned by Israel's High Court of Justice. Besides, Hamas got that ball rolling.Since when does the IDF use human shields? That's a tactic Hamas uses.Israel is the greatest military power in the Middle East, and it can't shut down it's home-grown secessionist terrorist problem even with all our tax dollars.You make it sound as if Israel is deliberately targeting innocent people. While the deaths of innocent Palestinians are undoubtedly tragic, it's hardly an industrial-scale My Lai. Besides, Hamas must shoulder some of the blame because of their cowardly tactics.
I say, we cut it's foreign aid if they're just going to use it to make weapons to kill civilians. That's a war crime, no matter how my brother or anybody else tries to slice it as "anti-terrorism". Even worse, this diverts the government's attentions from the problems like poverty with a poverty rate of 20%
In addition, it's clear that Israel makes our early 2000s America look horrendous. For instance, 1000 Palestinians were killed on the grounds of "500 of them were militants".
Unacceptable for a democratic state, much less a explicit ally of the United States.
Not as cowardly as holding somebody incommunicado before trying them before a military court, is it?
Or using human shields.
Or targeted killings.
It's a documented fact, by HRW, AI, and the UN.
Ironbite-because they don't care as long as a single Palestinian lives
Probably because they are?
Oh, fuck off. Yes, there are wingnuts calling for the genocide of Palestinians. Yes, what Israel does is questionable. But it's not genocide. ['/quote]Oh please. You talk as if Israel is committing outright genocide.And Israel's military is still doing it.And it was banned by Israel's High Court of Justice. Besides, Hamas got that ball rolling.Since when does the IDF use human shields? That's a tactic Hamas uses.Israel is the greatest military power in the Middle East, and it can't shut down it's home-grown secessionist terrorist problem even with all our tax dollars.You make it sound as if Israel is deliberately targeting innocent people. While the deaths of innocent Palestinians are undoubtedly tragic, it's hardly an industrial-scale My Lai. Besides, Hamas must shoulder some of the blame because of their cowardly tactics.
I say, we cut it's foreign aid if they're just going to use it to make weapons to kill civilians. That's a war crime, no matter how my brother or anybody else tries to slice it as "anti-terrorism". Even worse, this diverts the government's attentions from the problems like poverty with a poverty rate of 20%
In addition, it's clear that Israel makes our early 2000s America look horrendous. For instance, 1000 Palestinians were killed on the grounds of "500 of them were militants".
Unacceptable for a democratic state, much less a explicit ally of the United States.
Not as cowardly as holding somebody incommunicado before trying them before a military court, is it?
Or using human shields.
Or targeted killings.
It's a documented fact, by HRW, AI, and the UN.
Ironbite-because they don't care as long as a single Palestinian lives
Probably because they are?
I agree with that, I mean obviously it's not mass murder. But are we so sure Israel has changed its spots since 1948? This is a state founded on ethnic cleansing - like in Yugoslavia. Is that not what they are doing now? They try to make Palestine so miserable for Palestinians that eventually they will surrender their homes to Israel without a fight. And much of Palestine has already been given up. How much of Palestine has Israel already (illegally) annexed through settlement construction?QuoteIf Israel was committing genocide, would they have withdrawn from Gaza?
Why did Israel withdraw from Gaza? Because it was too expensive to maintain a few hundred settlers - and they'd given up on direct annexation, as in the West Bank. Instead, blockade was the answer. Lay siege, starve them out.QuoteYou know who is genocidal? Hamas.
Is Hamas genocidal? Of course not. This is exactly the hysterical overreaction you decry in others, and rightly so. Firstly, Hamas has no capacity to commit even the sort of mass casualties Israel routinely inflicts on them. Or even to sufficiently bloody Israel's nose to force them to the negotiating table, which they resolutely refuse to do. Why was there a negotiated peace with Egypt, but not Palestine? Because Egypt was an actual threat to people, and Palestine is not; you can kick them around all day long, and they can't even touch you, except just enough to justify kicking them some more.
Nor does Hamas even have the intention of killing Jews. Would Hamas accept a peace overture from Israel, based on the Green Line? Of course. In a heartbeat. It is to achieve this end that Hamas occasionally uses force, and usually uses non-violent tactics. Indeed, Hamas has been hyper-actively cracking down on bottle-rocket usage over the last year, in order to prevent the deaths of Jews. In order to justify a counter-attack, Israel stopped their efforts.
You make it sound as if Israel is deliberately targeting innocent people. While the deaths of innocent Palestinians are undoubtedly tragic, it's hardly an industrial-scale My Lai. Besides, Hamas must shoulder some of the blame because of their cowardly tactics.
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Fuck Neo-Confederates!
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Don't worry, Madman. I have nothing against Southerners. However, I do have something against Neo-Confederates.
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*BLAUGH*! What is that....thing?
Ah. Thanks for the context.*BLAUGH*! What is that....thing?
That is our illustrious Prime Minister, the day after he hijacked a speech commemorating the events of D-Day, to rail against anti-pollution measures.
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OHHH I get it! Distracted drivers are dangerous like bombs.
*BLAUGH*! What is that....thing?
That is our illustrious Prime Minister, the day after he hijacked a speech commemorating the events of D-Day, to rail against anti-pollution measures.
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How was KoAL007 Adropov's fault?
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How was KoAL007 Adropov's fault?
He was General Secretary at the time, so Russkies or something.
How was KoAL007 Adropov's fault?
He was General Secretary at the time, so Russkies or something.
But it was an accident.
Exactly.How was KoAL007 Adropov's fault?
He was General Secretary at the time, so Russkies or something.
But it was an accident.
From what I gathered in Wikipedia, it was more than an accident. In fact, General Valery Kamensky wanted to first make sure that it really is a spy plane rather than a civilian plane, even if it meant that they would then have to shoot it down over international waters, but General Kornukov believed that there was no need to identify the plane and the fact that it flew over Kamchatka and had not identified itself was proof enough.
...So rather than ask the plane who they were and why did they deviate from their flight path they just sent someone to shoot it down.
Also, the pilot that shot the plane down saw that it was a civilian plane but reasoned that it might have been modified for spy work and didn't even tell his commanders that it was a civilian plane. Because "they didn't ask."
And I suppose Andropov is used in the comic because he was a high ranking warmonger at the time and bears some responsibility just like Putin even if neither of them actually pulled the trigger.
EDIT: Actually now that I read further, Andropov was more involved in the denial of the event and believed that no one could prove the CCCP was behind the shooting. He was also apparently involved in leading the cover-up and according to Wikipedia "some believe" that the reason the cover-up seemed so amateurish was that Andropov was quite ill and this was affecting him. So yeah, Andropov was involved on the political side of that incident, just like Putin is now involved since they are claiming that this shooting was a failed assasination attempt on him...
How was KoAL007 Adropov's fault?
He was General Secretary at the time, so Russkies or something.
But it was an accident.
From what I gathered in Wikipedia, it was more than an accident. In fact, General Valery Kamensky wanted to first make sure that it really is a spy plane rather than a civilian plane, even if it meant that they would then have to shoot it down over international waters, but General Kornukov believed that there was no need to identify the plane and the fact that it flew over Kamchatka and had not identified itself was proof enough.
...So rather than ask the plane who they were and why did they deviate from their flight path they just sent someone to shoot it down.
Also, the pilot that shot the plane down saw that it was a civilian plane but reasoned that it might have been modified for spy work and didn't even tell his commanders that it was a civilian plane. Because "they didn't ask."
And I suppose Andropov is used in the comic because he was a high ranking warmonger at the time and bears some responsibility just like Putin even if neither of them actually pulled the trigger.
EDIT: Actually now that I read further, Andropov was more involved in the denial of the event and believed that no one could prove the CCCP was behind the shooting. He was also apparently involved in leading the cover-up and according to Wikipedia "some believe" that the reason the cover-up seemed so amateurish was that Andropov was quite ill and this was affecting him. So yeah, Andropov was involved on the political side of that incident, just like Putin is now involved since they are claiming that this shooting was a failed assasination attempt on him...
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in response to the cartoon above: crucify the murderers (the bastards leading hamas and israel) in public, but leave the innocent alone. this war is giving everyone a bad name, but unfortunately, it is giving more casualties to the reaper than necessary. my partner received the letter today, the idf wants her back in arms.Damn, that's rough.
*rage intensifies*
in response to the cartoon above: crucify the murderers (the bastards leading hamas and israel) in public, but leave the innocent alone. this war is giving everyone a bad name, but unfortunately, it is giving more casualties to the reaper than necessary. my partner received the letter today, the idf wants her back in arms.Damn, that's rough.
*rage intensifies*
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Extremists on both sides pushing their countries into a fruitless war where the innocent suffer the most. It's a story that's far too common.
I don't know... but I have a few possible ideas.Extremists on both sides pushing their countries into a fruitless war where the innocent suffer the most. It's a story that's far too common.
precisely. and that's the source of my anger. over the years on fstdt and now fqa, i've changed. i've gone from hot-blooded to trying to be the voice of reason, and as the years go by, i fear that i'm one of a dying breed. extremism is growing, and i feel more and more alone as the days go by. why can't the silent majority scream out its outrage and drown out the vocal minority pushing the kill-count higher and higher?
All those political cartoons would be far more accurate if Hamas/Palestine were depicted as small and bony wielding dinky little home-made "weapons" while Israel is big and beefy and packing the sharpest, most expensive weapons out there.Magus, just stop. We're stronger than the Taliban. Does that mean they're in the right?
As it stands right now, though, it's "false equivalence" fallacy up the wazoo in here.
All those political cartoons would be far more accurate if Hamas/Palestine were depicted as small and bony wielding dinky little home-made "weapons" while Israel is big and beefy and packing the sharpest, most expensive weapons out there.Magus, just stop. We're stronger than the Taliban. Does that mean they're in the right?
As it stands right now, though, it's "false equivalence" fallacy up the wazoo in here.
Modify button, learn it, live it, love it, use it.It wasn't working for me.
Remember when this thread was about good political cartoons and not UP's pictographic bully pulpit?
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European journalist: "What do you call Roma in Canada?"
Canadian journalist: "People?"
European journalist: "What do you call Roma in Canada?"Unless the Canadian journalist works for Sun TV News, evidently.
Canadian journalist: "People?"
European journalist: "What do you call Roma in Canada?"Unless the Canadian journalist works for Sun TV News, evidently.
Canadian journalist: "People?"
European journalist: "What do you call Roma in Canada?"Snarky journo: "We have Indians instead."
Canadian journalist: "People?"
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GDP in the UK has returned to 2008 levels (http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/cartoon/2014/jul/25/george-osborne-recovery-cost). Naturally, the Conservative Party and the press are jubilant; taking six years to achieve nothing is now the bar for success in UK politics.(click to show/hide)
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What annoys me about this one is the other bones in the pile.
Is it trying to say Immigration, global warming, and gay marriage aren't important and that the only thing that we should care about is Campaigh finance reform?
(The rest are excellent, though.)
(http://media.cagle.com/81/2014/07/23/151326_600.jpg)Ok, that one was actually funny.
Even when I can understand his point, Dees still manages to make things both incomprehensible and insane.At least he's good from a technical standpoint.
Aye, his artwork is very well done, that's for sure.Shame about its content.
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Exactly. They don't have a leg to stand on.(http://media.cagle.com/136/2014/08/02/151755_600.jpg)
Which honestly is how it should go down. The House has no standing in this whatsoever and to even try this is a waste of taxpayer's time and money.
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Which honestly is how it should go down. The House has no standing in this whatsoever and to even try this is a waste of taxpayer's time and money.
^ I am not particularly impressed with this strip, but that's maybe because I am reminded of the shit-fits JonTron has been throwing recently.
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original title of the image: I wish it were easier for more people to accept such an answer and move on to a different conversation.
it's a surprisingly humane view for 9gag.
Nobody's talking about the planet itself. They mean the environment.-snip-
original title of the image: I wish it were easier for more people to accept such an answer and move on to a different conversation.
it's a surprisingly humane view for 9gag.
Destroying the Earth is surprisingly difficult. You could say the Earth is built to last -- it's a huge ball of iron that's been around for a little over a third of the age of the universe and it's not going away anytime soon.
(http://media.cagle.com/77/2014/08/05/151885_600.jpg)At least Ebola does stuff.
(http://media.cagle.com/77/2014/08/05/151885_600.jpg)At least Ebola does stuff.
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What the "Western Media" shows us is instructive in illustrating the poison in a culture. Moderates enable the extremists, and you wouldn't see the fucked up aspects of Muslim culture such as mobs aimed at a Danish cartoon, honor killings, and death-by-apostasy without broad support from ordinary Muslims.
While I think it would be similarly instructive for the mainstream media to turn its lens inward to the fucked up aspects of Christian culture as well (really, every successful religion has enough of this to go around), Muslim society is certainly getting the attention it deserves.
Err, Ironchew has stated this is more or less what he believes.
No, I meant that he believes the part about social justice.Err, Ironchew has stated this is more or less what he believes.
And? It is the same bullshit logic that has been used to sow and feed hate towards other groups. It has absolutely no positive value and simply throws everyone under a label under the bus instead of working to get rid of the problematic mentalities and behaviors.
Eh, my only issue is the use of the term "Muslim child". Children do not have a religion. They are a child of Muslim parents, nothing more. I am quite opposed to religious labeling of children. Let them develop on their own, don't force a label on them.It probably also means "Arabic"
Eh, my only issue is the use of the term "Muslim child". Children do not have a religion. They are a child of Muslim parents, nothing more. I am quite opposed to religious labeling of children. Let them develop on their own, don't force a label on them.
Yeah, no.Eh, my only issue is the use of the term "Muslim child". Children do not have a religion. They are a child of Muslim parents, nothing more. I am quite opposed to religious labeling of children. Let them develop on their own, don't force a label on them.
Without the ability to indoctrinate children, all religion would collapse within a couple of generations. They use these labels for a reason.
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I already started an offshoot thread (http://fqa.digibase.ca/index.php?topic=5925.0) at your request, Lizard. Let's not continue to rustle this thread with bullshit.
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(http://oi62.tinypic.com/n5g0lt.jpg)I'm reminded of that Afghanistan manga.
Could you please elaborate?(http://oi62.tinypic.com/n5g0lt.jpg)I'm reminded of that Afghanistan manga.
If I guess right he refers to a muslim artist in Deviantart - that's who came to my mind at least. He draws manga about the prejudices against muslims and his interpretation of Koran. Both the style and the message are so similar that I'd be surprised if this isn't his work.I'm reminded of that Afghanistan manga.Could you please elaborate?
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I'm assuming it's a Turkish, so... non-English-speaker I guess?Most likely.
(http://oi62.tinypic.com/n5g0lt.jpg)I'm reminded of that Afghanistan manga.
(BTW, what's so "hard working" about putting on a Captain Morgan pose and pointing at the sky?)
We have a F&B for your rants:http://fqa.digibase.ca/index.php?topic=5925.45 (http://fqa.digibase.ca/index.php?topic=5925.45)
Uhh, they were only bringing up one point. ???We have a F&B for your rants:http://fqa.digibase.ca/index.php?topic=5925.45 (http://fqa.digibase.ca/index.php?topic=5925.45)
I thought Lady Evil brought up several good points.
Uhh, they were only bringing up one point. ???We have a F&B for your rants:http://fqa.digibase.ca/index.php?topic=5925.45 (http://fqa.digibase.ca/index.php?topic=5925.45)
I thought Lady Evil brought up several good points.
Not all Muslim countries follow Shariah law.Uhh, they were only bringing up one point. ???We have a F&B for your rants:http://fqa.digibase.ca/index.php?topic=5925.45 (http://fqa.digibase.ca/index.php?topic=5925.45)
I thought Lady Evil brought up several good points.
One point, several points...I don't know myself. I will say the really big problem I have is how shabbily women and girls are treated by Shariah law.
Studies have shown religion and government mix up about as well as a snowball and hot greaseOne point, several points...I don't know myself. I will say the really big problem I have is how shabbily women and girls are treated by Shariah law.Uhh, they were only bringing up one point. ???We have a F&B for your rants:http://fqa.digibase.ca/index.php?topic=5925.45 (http://fqa.digibase.ca/index.php?topic=5925.45)
I thought Lady Evil brought up several good points.
Uhh, they were only bringing up one point. ???We have a F&B for your rants:http://fqa.digibase.ca/index.php?topic=5925.45 (http://fqa.digibase.ca/index.php?topic=5925.45)
I thought Lady Evil brought up several good points.
One point, several points...I don't know myself. I will say the really big problem I have is how shabbily women and girls are treated by Shariah law.
Same. He/she seems like the "Allah before Dogma" type.Uhh, they were only bringing up one point. ???We have a F&B for your rants:http://fqa.digibase.ca/index.php?topic=5925.45 (http://fqa.digibase.ca/index.php?topic=5925.45)
I thought Lady Evil brought up several good points.
One point, several points...I don't know myself. I will say the really big problem I have is how shabbily women and girls are treated by Shariah law.
Well that we can agree with.
Though I'm fairly certain the maker of that comic is not a supporter of Sharia law.
I hate that shit with the burning passion of a million suns. "Why don't you just cheer up?" "Why don't you just let me eviscerate you with this butcher knife?" If you're not here to help, or at least just not be a gigantic prick, then kindly fuck off.
I hate that shit with the burning passion of a million suns. "Why don't you just cheer up?" "Why don't you just let me eviscerate you with this butcher knife?" If you're not here to help, or at least just not be a gigantic prick, then kindly fuck off.
Motherfucking seconded.
He's only the bad cop if the suspect is black.Or homeless or mentally ill.
Until I saw the Rick Scott badge, I thought that was meant to be Putin. Very confusing.
The fact you can see other "rioters" in the background indicates the cartoonist believes the protests in ferguson are actually riots.There are looters in Ferguson. Their activities are exaggerated, and they're mistakenly conflated with the protestors, but they do exist.
Plus I think thus guy is fairly right wing.
The fact you can see other "rioters" in the background indicates the cartoonist believes the protests in ferguson are actually riots.There are looters in Ferguson. Their activities are exaggerated, and they're mistakenly conflated with the protestors, but they do exist.
Plus I think thus guy is fairly right wing.
And there's nothing inherently wrong with being right-wing.
All I see are a bunch of looters. I don't see anybody carrying signs.The fact you can see other "rioters" in the background indicates the cartoonist believes the protests in ferguson are actually riots.There are looters in Ferguson. Their activities are exaggerated, and they're mistakenly conflated with the protestors, but they do exist.
Plus I think thus guy is fairly right wing.
And there's nothing inherently wrong with being right-wing.
No one is denying that they exist. He was stating that they were depicting protestors as looters in the picture.
And I wish I could believe that last sentence.
Exactly.You missed my point. And since the protestors have been a good defense against the looters, it makes sense that they'd choose a place where neither they nor the police are nearby.
That could also mean the author thinks ferguson is non-stop riots the police can't control.Exactly.You missed my point. And since the protestors have been a good defense against the looters, it makes sense that they'd choose a place where neither they nor the police are nearby.
Sounds fair.That could also mean the author thinks ferguson is non-stop riots the police can't control.Exactly.You missed my point. And since the protestors have been a good defense against the looters, it makes sense that they'd choose a place where neither they nor the police are nearby.
You know what, let's split the difference and just say you're right.
Not sure if that qualifies as "best" or "cartoon". I could've made that in less than 5 minutes.Would you rather have something covered in labels?
Not sure if that qualifies as "best" or "cartoon". I could've made that in less than 5 minutes.Being able to tell a message with a simple piece of art is a great accomplishment.
Would you rather have something covered in labels?...And being forced to use labels on every goddamn thing to get their message across is a sign of a very bad political cartoonist. SOMETIMES labels are necessary but usually there are better ways to get the message across.
And even then he has to rely on an army of robots and a brain damaged mute.I'll have you know that my characters were usually quite eloquent with their speech. Or are you just complaining because the players lines aren't voiced?
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If I'm such a good person why didn't they accept my health insurance that would have saved her life?
expanding Medicare eligibility to every citizen
expanding Medicare eligibility to every citizen
I always find it hilarious that senior citizens, or people on the verge of being senior citizens, scream bloody murder both at the suggestion of single-payer healthcare and at the suggestion of taking away their Medicare coverage.
expanding Medicare eligibility to every citizen
I always find it hilarious that senior citizens, or people on the verge of being senior citizens, scream bloody murder both at the suggestion of single-payer healthcare and at the suggestion of taking away their Medicare coverage.
Its okay, I found a homeopathic remedy for Old Asshole Syndrome. Unfortunately, the FDA won't let me release it to the public...something about arsenic being poisonous.
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Someone found an excerpt from Putin's personal porn stash, I take it.
(http://img-9gag-lol.9cache.com/photo/a7K7NMb_700b.jpg)There's no denying that Hiroshima and Nagasaki were massive tragedies. However, it was hardly "terrorism". It was cruel necessity, and probably saved millions of lives.
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Cause clearly Japan wouldn't keep fighting unless we brought a rain of ruin from the air down on their asses, no sir. They would just surrender the moment we stepped foot on a Pacific island, yes sir. Face it, if we hadn't pushed the button, the war would have been even more hellish than it was already.
Quit bitching about it. What's next, the apologists come out of the wood work for Nanking's anniversary? How about the death marches of Sandakan and Bataan? Or how about the sheer amount of Japanese casualties because of the doctrine of glorious death? Saipan? Okinawa?
Cause clearly Japan wouldn't keep fighting unless we brought a rain of ruin from the air down on their asses, no sir. They would just surrender the moment we stepped foot on a Pacific island, yes sir. Face it, if we hadn't pushed the button, the war would have been even more hellish than it was already.
Quit bitching about it. What's next, the apologists come out of the wood work for Nanking's anniversary? How about the death marches of Sandakan and Bataan? Or how about the sheer amount of Japanese casualties because of the doctrine of glorious death? Saipan? Okinawa?
I might be missing the point, but my assumption was that the kid had come to associate big explosions with terrorist attacks, rather than events of war. Damn kids these days!That's how I was interpreting it too. A child that age has quite possibly only heard about rogue nations, terrorists trying to get the bomb, and nuclear proliferation and not about the details of WWII.
I think the point is that while it was probably necessary to end the war, it was still one of the most horrendous things ever done. Did it save more lives by forcing Japan to surrender, probably, but it has a more lasting legacy than just ending the war.
I think the point is that while it was probably necessary to end the war, it was still one of the most horrendous things ever done. Did it save more lives by forcing Japan to surrender, probably, but it has a more lasting legacy than just ending the war.
No, it wasn't. Japan was willing to negotiate, the Allies only continued the war so they could get unconditional surrender from Japan.
I think the point is that while it was probably necessary to end the war, it was still one of the most horrendous things ever done. Did it save more lives by forcing Japan to surrender, probably, but it has a more lasting legacy than just ending the war.
No, it wasn't. Japan was willing to negotiate, the Allies only continued the war so they could get unconditional surrender from Japan.
So what you are saying is, the Japan was willing to negotiate but the Allies nuked them so that they could get an unconditional surrender instead?
I think the point is that while it was probably necessary to end the war, it was still one of the most horrendous things ever done. Did it save more lives by forcing Japan to surrender, probably, but it has a more lasting legacy than just ending the war.
No, it wasn't. Japan was willing to negotiate, the Allies only continued the war so they could get unconditional surrender from Japan.
Bullshit. The Japanese wanted to keep Korea and Formosa, states they had conquered.
So what you are saying is, the Japan was willing to negotiate but the Allies nuked them so that they could get an unconditional surrender instead?
I think the point is that while it was probably necessary to end the war, it was still one of the most horrendous things ever done. Did it save more lives by forcing Japan to surrender, probably, but it has a more lasting legacy than just ending the war.
No, it wasn't. Japan was willing to negotiate, the Allies only continued the war so they could get unconditional surrender from Japan.
Bullshit. The Japanese wanted to keep Korea and Formosa, states they had conquered.
So what you are saying is, the Japan was willing to negotiate but the Allies nuked them so that they could get an unconditional surrender instead?
I think the point is that while it was probably necessary to end the war, it was still one of the most horrendous things ever done. Did it save more lives by forcing Japan to surrender, probably, but it has a more lasting legacy than just ending the war.
No, it wasn't. Japan was willing to negotiate, the Allies only continued the war so they could get unconditional surrender from Japan.
Bullshit. The Japanese wanted to keep Korea and Formosa, states they had conquered.
Conditions as laid, Japan kept it's conquered nations. This would be a violation of the Four Freedoms, in particular "Freedom from fear". Would you let Austria continue to be in the hands of Germany?
: a formal discussion between people who are trying to reach an agreement : an act of negotiating
Synonyms
accommodation, compromise, give-and-take, concession
So what you are saying is, the Japan was willing to negotiate but the Allies nuked them so that they could get an unconditional surrender instead?
I think the point is that while it was probably necessary to end the war, it was still one of the most horrendous things ever done. Did it save more lives by forcing Japan to surrender, probably, but it has a more lasting legacy than just ending the war.
No, it wasn't. Japan was willing to negotiate, the Allies only continued the war so they could get unconditional surrender from Japan.
Bullshit. The Japanese wanted to keep Korea and Formosa, states they had conquered.
Conditions as laid, Japan kept it's conquered nations. This would be a violation of the Four Freedoms, in particular "Freedom from fear". Would you let Austria continue to be in the hands of Germany?
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Oh gross.
(https://images.encyclopediadramatica.es/9/98/Gamergateshit8.jpg)I've heard that the majority of gamers are female actually.
I'd say that's true for a lot of groups.(https://images.encyclopediadramatica.es/9/98/Gamergateshit8.jpg)I've heard that the majority of gamers are female actually.
And yeah, saying gamers are made up mostly of Douchebags would be wrong, gamers are mainly decent people it's just the ones who are douchebags are so loud it ruins the experience for non-douchebags.
(http://media.cagle.com/78/2014/09/09/153395_600.jpg)Putin can easily skate around western propaganda.
(http://media.cagle.com/78/2014/09/09/153395_600.jpg)Putin can easily skate around western propaganda.
A glorious state-approved cartoon.
(https://images.encyclopediadramatica.es/9/98/Gamergateshit8.jpg)I've heard that the majority of gamers are female actually.
And yeah, saying gamers are made up mostly of Douchebags would be wrong, gamers are mainly decent people it's just the ones who are douchebags are so loud it ruins the experience for non-douchebags.
You just hit the nail on the head.(https://images.encyclopediadramatica.es/9/98/Gamergateshit8.jpg)I've heard that the majority of gamers are female actually.
And yeah, saying gamers are made up mostly of Douchebags would be wrong, gamers are mainly decent people it's just the ones who are douchebags are so loud it ruins the experience for non-douchebags.
Isn't that kind of the point? I mean, it's a literal white knight issuing a blanket condemnation onto a diverse group.
I didn't even know there was a shitstorm I was not paying attention to it.
There should be a "Butthurt Political Cartoons" section for this failed referendum.
Oh god, UP's doing it again.Doing what?
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(http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/827/860/e67.jpg)Really?
From what I can tell every time a celeb has nudes leaked (particularly a female celeb) it's the celeb who gets blamed.
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Wow, that's heavy :(
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Which is weird. Anyone remember "Bush Derangement Syndrome"? Who was pushing that meme, Rush Limbaugh? The idea was that liberals hated President Bush so much that they lost all semblance of sanity. What, then, to make of Tansuitgate or Mustardgate?
I'd say it has more to do with politics than race.Which is weird. Anyone remember "Bush Derangement Syndrome"? Who was pushing that meme, Rush Limbaugh? The idea was that liberals hated President Bush so much that they lost all semblance of sanity. What, then, to make of Tansuitgate or Mustardgate?
Suddenly, A Wild Honest Neocon Appeared!
Honest Neocon uses Bout of Honesty! "Yeah, but Bush was white and Obama's black, so we're not crazy for hating him."
Bout of Honesty causes Sane Liberal to laugh! Laughter damages Honest Neocon!
Honest Neocon faints!
I prefer to avoid playing the race card myself. Sure, there are plenty of Tea Partiers who are racists. But until they out themselves, I'd rather talk about their actual talking points they are using.I'd say it has more to do with politics than race.Which is weird. Anyone remember "Bush Derangement Syndrome"? Who was pushing that meme, Rush Limbaugh? The idea was that liberals hated President Bush so much that they lost all semblance of sanity. What, then, to make of Tansuitgate or Mustardgate?
Suddenly, A Wild Honest Neocon Appeared!
Honest Neocon uses Bout of Honesty! "Yeah, but Bush was white and Obama's black, so we're not crazy for hating him."
Bout of Honesty causes Sane Liberal to laugh! Laughter damages Honest Neocon!
Honest Neocon faints!
I prefer to avoid playing the race card myself. Sure, there are plenty of Tea Partiers who are racists. But until they out themselves, I'd rather talk about their actual talking points they are using.I'd say it has more to do with politics than race.Which is weird. Anyone remember "Bush Derangement Syndrome"? Who was pushing that meme, Rush Limbaugh? The idea was that liberals hated President Bush so much that they lost all semblance of sanity. What, then, to make of Tansuitgate or Mustardgate?
Suddenly, A Wild Honest Neocon Appeared!
Honest Neocon uses Bout of Honesty! "Yeah, but Bush was white and Obama's black, so we're not crazy for hating him."
Bout of Honesty causes Sane Liberal to laugh! Laughter damages Honest Neocon!
Honest Neocon faints!
Actually, it's more that they're desperate to find something other than the things Obama has done that they agree with.(http://media.cagle.com/95/2014/09/26/154231_600.jpg)
Proof the wingnuts are desperate because there's nothing they can pin on him. Weird people.
Notice how Eisenhower, a REBUBLICAN, had a higher rate than Johnson, a democrat. If the modern republican party took after Eisenhower... Well, I'd still oppose them, but at least I'd have respect for them.
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If you look at it the other way around, voter apathy is a sign of a secure democracy. People don't struggle for the right to choose their leaders when they are confident that they already have that right.Or that they have simply lost faith in democracy.
If you look at it the other way around, voter apathy is a sign of a secure democracy. People don't struggle for the right to choose their leaders when they are confident that they already have that right.Or that they have simply lost faith in democracy.
In Finland elders complain that the youth aren't voting. The problem is that the only candidates that pass elections are almost entirely 30+ years old. The youth tried to get their voice heard and when they failed repeatedly they lost the motivation.
This is affected by the way the vote count works in Finland. The person who gets the most votes in party X is counted as having gotten all their votes, the second has 50% and so on. This means that the few "veterans" who consistently get votes (and more importantly, get votes from OUR numerous baby boomer generation) are the most likely to pass and the rookies are only "sacrificial lambs" who get votes for the party but will not be able to win.
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This is why I can't stand voter apathy.
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Note the subtle dig at Michelle Obama's weight.
It's the empty ice cream sundae cup on her nightstand, I'm assuming.Note the subtle dig at Michelle Obama's weight.
...Mind pointing it out? 'Cause I'm not really seeing it.
It's the empty ice cream sundae cup on her nightstand, I'm assuming.Note the subtle dig at Michelle Obama's weight.
...Mind pointing it out? 'Cause I'm not really seeing it.
Also, that perspective is horrendous, are they sleeping standing up?It's the empty ice cream sundae cup on her nightstand, I'm assuming.Note the subtle dig at Michelle Obama's weight.
...Mind pointing it out? 'Cause I'm not really seeing it.
That's it
So then what the everloving fuck is War doing on horseback?
So then what the everloving fuck is War doing on horseback?
The bigger drones are the size of a fighter plane. And armed similarly.So then what the everloving fuck is War doing on horseback?
Its kind of hard to balance on drone.
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Technically, that's not Democracy, that's Republic.
"Democracy is the only system of government where the majority of the population get to be the dictators, rather than the dictated. This is why it is considered the best form of government."From an actual quote maker:
-Me, just now, to myself
"Democracy is the worst form of government, except for all those other forms that have been tried from time to time."
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...Humbug was offensive?
...Humbug was offensive?
"Humbug" was on roughly the same level then as "bullshit" is now. Honestly it was likely a bit more offensive considering that, the further back in history you go, the more and more strict social rules get.
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It isn't a good point, it's a stupid point. Derogatory racial terms have power only when used by someone they don't denigrate, obviously.
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It isn't a good point, it's a stupid point. Derogatory racial terms have power only when used by someone they don't denigrate, obviously.
I know, but I put it here more for the overall message: that there's no reason for a white person to say the n-word unless they're a racist douche.
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It isn't a good point, it's a stupid point. Derogatory racial terms have power only when used by someone they don't denigrate, obviously.
I know, but I put it here more for the overall message: that there's no reason for a white person to say the n-word unless they're a racist douche.
OK, wait. I think there are two different ways to read the last line in the comic which are leading to disagreement. The way I interpreted it at first, "why do you need to say it?" means "why would you even need to use the word at all?". Presumably this is what UP saw when he posted it.
The other way to read it, "it" means "the point". I.e. "Why do are you making that point out loud?". I'm guessing this is how Fred read it.
Either of you correct me if I'm wrong.
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(http://oi61.tinypic.com/25hoe49.jpg)Plot twist: She's reading a copy of Ebola and ISIS.
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When I did look it up, I explained that the new cases were all nurses who had been around someone at the time when they'd been vomiting heavily, and that prior to being admitted, said patient had been around dozens of people who did not catch the virus.
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So much. I was talking with some people in the program I'm in who mentioned about ebola, and I told them not worry, as it is only contagious for a very short time before symptoms show, as long as you don't fuck someone who's bleeding from their eyes or play around in puddles of blood, you should probably be fine. And they started freaking out, and one even said they thought it could be airborne because of some nurses who were taking care of the guy who had itgetting it, to which I responded, yeah, they're around him all the time, its way more easy for them to get it than someone else.
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So much. I was talking with some people in the program I'm in who mentioned about ebola, and I told them not worry, as it is only contagious for a very short time before symptoms show, as long as you don't fuck someone who's bleeding from their eyes or play around in puddles of blood, you should probably be fine. And they started freaking out, and one even said they thought it could be airborne because of some nurses who were taking care of the guy who had itgetting it, to which I responded, yeah, they're around him all the time, its way more easy for them to get it than someone else.
So pretty much don't act like the protagonists of Eli Roth's Cabin Fever movies. Got it.
If you look at it the other way around, voter apathy is a sign of a secure democracy. People don't struggle for the right to choose their leaders when they are confident that they already have that right.Or that they have simply lost faith in democracy.
In Finland elders complain that the youth aren't voting. The problem is that the only candidates that pass elections are almost entirely 30+ years old. The youth tried to get their voice heard and when they failed repeatedly they lost the motivation.
This is affected by the way the vote count works in Finland. The person who gets the most votes in party X is counted as having gotten all their votes, the second has 50% and so on. This means that the few "veterans" who consistently get votes (and more importantly, get votes from OUR numerous baby boomer generation) are the most likely to pass and the rookies are only "sacrificial lambs" who get votes for the party but will not be able to win.
Hence, GET OUT THE VOTE!
We need to encourage our fellow Progressives to vote.
Here's some resources:
http://www.rockthevote.com/
http://registertovote.org/index.html
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bill-folman/10-reasons-you-must-vote_b_774777.html
Also, The Dems aren't perfect and candidates may come off as fuddy-duddies (like the situation in Finland). But I say, progress is often slow and we should quit waiting for the ideal. The longer you wait, the ideal wont come. Go with who's available, the "least of the evils". If a Lefty isn't available, go for the most moderate & sane person.
Hence, GET OUT THE VOTE!
We need to encourage our fellow Progressives to vote.
Here's some resources:
http://www.rockthevote.com/
http://registertovote.org/index.html
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bill-folman/10-reasons-you-must-vote_b_774777.html
Also, The Dems aren't perfect and candidates may come off as fuddy-duddies (like the situation in Finland). But I say, progress is often slow and we should quit waiting for the ideal. The longer you wait, the ideal wont come. Go with who's available, the "least of the evils". If a Lefty isn't available, go for the most moderate & sane person.
And what should we do if the first-past-the-post system makes your vote worthless, in my area the tories have 60% of the vote.
Hence, GET OUT THE VOTE!
We need to encourage our fellow Progressives to vote.
Here's some resources:
http://www.rockthevote.com/
http://registertovote.org/index.html
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bill-folman/10-reasons-you-must-vote_b_774777.html
Also, The Dems aren't perfect and candidates may come off as fuddy-duddies (like the situation in Finland). But I say, progress is often slow and we should quit waiting for the ideal. The longer you wait, the ideal wont come. Go with who's available, the "least of the evils". If a Lefty isn't available, go for the most moderate & sane person.
And what should we do if the first-past-the-post system makes your vote worthless, in my area the tories have 60% of the vote.
Vote anyway so they only get 59.99% of the vote.
Hence, GET OUT THE VOTE!
We need to encourage our fellow Progressives to vote.
Here's some resources:
http://www.rockthevote.com/
http://registertovote.org/index.html
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bill-folman/10-reasons-you-must-vote_b_774777.html
Also, The Dems aren't perfect and candidates may come off as fuddy-duddies (like the situation in Finland). But I say, progress is often slow and we should quit waiting for the ideal. The longer you wait, the ideal wont come. Go with who's available, the "least of the evils". If a Lefty isn't available, go for the most moderate & sane person.
And what should we do if the first-past-the-post system makes your vote worthless, in my area the tories have 60% of the vote.
Vote anyway so they only get 59.99% of the vote.
And what if I disagree with the other 4 parties? Lib Dems are traitors, Labour are Tory light, Greens are nutters who are against nuclear power, and UKIP are freaking UKIP.
Hence, GET OUT THE VOTE!
We need to encourage our fellow Progressives to vote.
Here's some resources:
http://www.rockthevote.com/
http://registertovote.org/index.html
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bill-folman/10-reasons-you-must-vote_b_774777.html
Also, The Dems aren't perfect and candidates may come off as fuddy-duddies (like the situation in Finland). But I say, progress is often slow and we should quit waiting for the ideal. The longer you wait, the ideal wont come. Go with who's available, the "least of the evils". If a Lefty isn't available, go for the most moderate & sane person.
And what should we do if the first-past-the-post system makes your vote worthless, in my area the tories have 60% of the vote.
Vote anyway so they only get 59.99% of the vote.
And what if I disagree with the other 4 parties? Lib Dems are traitors, Labour are Tory light, Greens are nutters who are against nuclear power, and UKIP are freaking UKIP.
Mark your ballot for two candidates, leave it blank, just make sure it gets in the box.
Hence, GET OUT THE VOTE!
We need to encourage our fellow Progressives to vote.
Here's some resources:
http://www.rockthevote.com/
http://registertovote.org/index.html
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bill-folman/10-reasons-you-must-vote_b_774777.html
Also, The Dems aren't perfect and candidates may come off as fuddy-duddies (like the situation in Finland). But I say, progress is often slow and we should quit waiting for the ideal. The longer you wait, the ideal wont come. Go with who's available, the "least of the evils". If a Lefty isn't available, go for the most moderate & sane person.
And what should we do if the first-past-the-post system makes your vote worthless, in my area the tories have 60% of the vote.
Vote anyway so they only get 59.99% of the vote.
And what if I disagree with the other 4 parties? Lib Dems are traitors, Labour are Tory light, Greens are nutters who are against nuclear power, and UKIP are freaking UKIP.
Mark your ballot for two candidates, leave it blank, just make sure it gets in the box.
Was thinking more setting my ballot on fire in protest but that would probably get me in trouble.
Eeh, sometimes, you gotta go with the one that's just less of an asshole than their opponents. Just how shit is, sometimes.
Sadly, most of the time, third parties in America tend to be election spoilers for the party closest to them, like with Nader throwing the Florida vote to Bush in 2000. Even the most successful third-party run in 1912 accomplished the same thing, dividing the Republicans and landing the Democrats in the White House.
Maybe George Washington was right about political parties....
Okay, I have a pertinent question for ya, Chew: how? How do you propose we, realistically, go about doing what you're talking about? Remember that we're not millionaires, and that the game is critically rigged against us.
Okay, I have a pertinent question for ya, Chew: how? How do you propose we, realistically, go about doing what you're talking about? Remember that we're not millionaires, and that the game is critically rigged against us.
If I started discussing realistic options you would move the goalposts on me.
So, you automatically know what I'm gonna do? Well, fuck me, with your powers of foresight, you could just about be a god damned superhero. I meant what I said, you braying jackass, I don't hide landmines in my words unlike some pretentious weenies out there.You seem upset.
So, you automatically know what I'm gonna do? Well, fuck me, with your powers of foresight, you could just about be a god damned superhero. I meant what I said, you braying jackass, I don't hide landmines in my words unlike some pretentious weenies out there.You seem upset.
Ah, that makes sense.So, you automatically know what I'm gonna do? Well, fuck me, with your powers of foresight, you could just about be a god damned superhero. I meant what I said, you braying jackass, I don't hide landmines in my words unlike some pretentious weenies out there.You seem upset.
I don't like people putting words in my mouth. Unless I'm joking, which usually isn't too difficult to tell, I say what I mean. I don't do goalpost-shifting nonsense; it takes too much time, too much energy, and yields too little reward.
(Also, just because I'm caustic doesn't mean I'm upset. I just felt like being caustic...like a good organic acid.)
Sadly, most of the time, third parties in America tend to be election spoilers for the party closest to them, like with Nader throwing the Florida vote to Bush in 2000. Even the most successful third-party run in 1912 accomplished the same thing, dividing the Republicans and landing the Democrats in the White House.
That's the whole point. You sabotage the campaigns of one mainstream party so that they come crawling to your party's platform in the next election cycle. That's how to shift the range of acceptable political opinions towards your issues.
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But that was just fags. This could actually affect me.Well, that would require them to first acknowledge that HIV was even capable of existing in the United States during the wise leadership of Saint Ronald. Only after that, and several more steps, would they blame the gays.
Any bets on someone with an (R) beside their name or a time slot on Fox actually saying this?
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Well, overreaction can be just as inadequate a response as underreaction.
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Well, overreaction can be just as inadequate a response as underreaction.
Quite true, as evidenced by people advocating that Obama create an "Ebola czar." Seriously. It's sad that it's become to much to ask that the human race show a little rational thought.
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Well, overreaction can be just as inadequate a response as underreaction.
Quite true, as evidenced by people advocating that Obama create an "Ebola czar." Seriously. It's sad that it's become to much to ask that the human race show a little rational thought.
I went to the March on Washington back in '87. Half a million LGBTQ's and allies filled the city that weekend. Twenty-odd thousand HIV deaths and a quarter of a million of us filled The Capitol Mall to capacity (the mile long narrow park between the Washington Monument and Congress building). Reagan, and Congress for that matter, still didn't do jack diddly shit for many months afterwards.
http://m.dailykos.com/story/2011/02/06/941472/-Screw-Reagan (http://m.dailykos.com/story/2011/02/06/941472/-Screw-Reagan)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sxz9M36LjYY
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Well, overreaction can be just as inadequate a response as underreaction.
Quite true, as evidenced by people advocating that Obama create an "Ebola czar." Seriously. It's sad that it's become to much to ask that the human race show a little rational thought.
I went to the March on Washington back in '87. Half a million LGBTQ's and allies filled the city that weekend. Twenty-odd thousand HIV deaths and a quarter of a million of us filled The Capitol Mall to capacity (the mile long narrow park between the Washington Monument and Congress building). Reagan, and Congress for that matter, still didn't do jack diddly shit for many months afterwards.
http://m.dailykos.com/story/2011/02/06/941472/-Screw-Reagan (http://m.dailykos.com/story/2011/02/06/941472/-Screw-Reagan)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sxz9M36LjYY
I'm not defending Reagan, at all. I'm saying Reagan being stupid in one direction does not excuse Obama being stupid in the opposite direction.
Maybe George Washington was right about political parties....
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Maybe George Washington was right about political parties....
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Is it even possible to have a political system without parties?
Maybe George Washington was right about political parties....
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Is it even possible to have a political system without parties?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consensus_democracy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consensus_democracy)
The problem with meritocracies is that someone (person, group, institution, whatever) has to decide what does and does not count as "merit", and they are going to bias it in their favour.
That, and a meritocracy. That way, the only people with power are people who've actually, ya know, done something for society instead of just having known the right people and/or had a lot of money.
Maybe George Washington was right about political parties....
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Is it even possible to have a political system without parties?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consensus_democracy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consensus_democracy)
That, and a meritocracy. That way, the only people with power are people who've actually, ya know, done something for society instead of just having known the right people and/or had a lot of money.
That's true, but there are certain things that are more or less globally good for society, for example, volunteering at a homeless shelter. It would take some hammering out and consensus, but it'd be possible. Maybe not in the US, but somewhere.
I'm also bummed that the people who could overthrow the Tealiban say home with their Cheetos when they should be out voting!
Again, I say to them....QUIT WAITING FOR THE "IDEAL" THE IDEAL WON'T COME FOR NOW! GO WITH WHAT'S POSSIBLE NOW!
I'm aware that the Democratic Party is wishy-washy! Well, better them than a horde of Theocratic Fascists!
Once people start to vote DEMS constantly & faithfully, then, over time, we can Liberalize the party.
Baby steps....baby steps!
I'm so disgusted with a majority of otherwise intelligent people who are too stupid to GET TOGETHER AND GET THINGS DONE!
I'm also bummed that the people who could overthrow the Tealiban say home with their Cheetos when they should be out voting!
Again, I say to them....QUIT WAITING FOR THE "IDEAL" THE IDEAL WON'T COME FOR NOW! GO WITH WHAT'S POSSIBLE NOW!
I'm aware that the Democratic Party is wishy-washy! Well, better them than a horde of Theocratic Fascists!
Once people start to vote DEMS constantly & faithfully, then, over time, we can Liberalize the party.
Baby steps....baby steps!
I'm so disgusted with a majority of otherwise intelligent people who are too stupid to GET TOGETHER AND GET THINGS DONE!
Sometimes, it's about choosing the lesser of two evils.
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Yes. Canada is our last resort & new beginning, should the American Progs fail to take back this country.
I'm going to create a folder on my Bookmarks dedicated to Canada stuff....just in case.
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Yes. Canada is our last resort & new beginning, should the American Progs fail to take back this country.
I'm going to create a folder on my Bookmarks dedicated to Canada stuff....just in case.
I would like to introduce you to someone called Stephen Harper (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Harper).
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I realized something. Was this cartoon telling me the opposite of what I interpreted? That Canada's going the way of the USA?
Well, I've read more and I seems to be.
But I had an epiphany.....folks hear me out.
But of the success of the Far-Right has been casting Progressives as out-of-touch & elitist. We are seen as rich city-folk or hippies or nerdy college professors and not as average, hard-working, salt-of-the-earth, Joe Q. American/Canadian, the farmers, laborers, etc.
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I realized something. Was this cartoon telling me the opposite of what I interpreted? That Canada's going the way of the USA?
Well, I've read more and I seems to be.
But I had an epiphany.....folks hear me out.
But of the success of the Far-Right has been casting Progressives as out-of-touch & elitist. We are seen as rich city-folk or hippies or nerdy college professors and not as average, hard-working, salt-of-the-earth, Joe Q. American/Canadian, the farmers, laborers, etc.
I'm not saying you don't have a point, but what do you do if the nerdy college professors feel like they are being slighted in favour of the farmers and laborers?
The conflict between expanding your base and keeping your core demographics is an essential balance in every political movement. Farmers and college professors often want different things (more money for agricultural subsidies vs more money for science funding, to give a simplistic example) and sometimes your policy has to reflect that. If the progressives can expand their base towards new demographics, what's stopping the conservatives from doing the same, capturing some of the demographics that get less pandering?
Well, if we start first and they see how freeing, loving and beneficial Progressivism is, they may prefer Progressivism over Wingnuttery.
Well, if we start first and they see how freeing, loving and beneficial Progressivism is, they may prefer Progressivism over Wingnuttery.
Empirically, this is not a very good bet. We've had a discussion before about progressives becoming conservatives and vice-versa; we know that people can change sides and there is no "Progressivisim is awesome!" effect keeping people in one position. The why of it is an interesting question*, but the empirical reality is not in doubt.
Again, not saying progressives shouldn't expand their base. Just saying there are practical issues that should be kept in mind.
*Without assuming which political position is right, mind you. The paradox applies equally to a progressive or a conservative who thinks their position is obviously right.
While it is true that people tend to become more conservative as they get older, I also feel it should be noted that social progress isn't always zero sum. My metaphor is that progress takes ten steps forward, then the backlash takes it nine steps back. Slowly, but surely, the world is getting better. Look at how society views race. While I will agree that racism still exists, particularly in the law enforcement and criminal "justice" systems, at the same time, non whites have more opportunities than ever before. Almost nobody wants to go back to segregation, and those who do are considered fringe even within the Tea Party. I suspect that gay rights will be the same in a few years. We've already seen that in areas where they become accepted, it's almost unheard of for the issue to be turned back.Well, if we start first and they see how freeing, loving and beneficial Progressivism is, they may prefer Progressivism over Wingnuttery.
Empirically, this is not a very good bet. We've had a discussion before about progressives becoming conservatives and vice-versa; we know that people can change sides and there is no "Progressivisim is awesome!" effect keeping people in one position. The why of it is an interesting question*, but the empirical reality is not in doubt.
Again, not saying progressives shouldn't expand their base. Just saying there are practical issues that should be kept in mind.
*Without assuming which political position is right, mind you. The paradox applies equally to a progressive or a conservative who thinks their position is obviously right.
Part of the problem progressives have, is that their base is extremely diverse, and keeping all those parties happy is borderline impossible without some kind of magical intervention. However conservatives, by nature seek only to maintain the status quotient so their base is unfortunately very stable. Add to that how today's progressives age and become tomorrows conservatives, who then have kids who become tomorrows progressives.
More like military propaganda.
And where in the cartoon does it indicate that? It's just another cartoon that treats soldiers as heroes just because they're soldiers.
So Canadians aren't capable of nationalism? I mean, I admit that I could be wrong. I have no idea who drew that one and could be a tribute, if a shitty one that focuses on the "soldiers are heroes" narrative over the tragedy of the guy's death, but if the artist is Canadian, then it comes off entirely as typical right-wing military glorification.
So Canadians aren't capable of nationalism? I mean, I admit that I could be wrong. I have no idea who drew that one and could be a tribute, if a shitty one that focuses on the "soldiers are heroes" narrative over the tragedy of the guy's death, but if the artist is Canadian, then it comes off entirely as typical right-wing military glorification.
Here's his site, I'll let you judge for yourself:
http://neasecartoons.com/
(And he does live in Oakville.)
Well, I have no idea what to make of that. Likely because I have no context for them due to being in the states. However, while I admit that I'm most likely wrong about the purpose of the comic, I do think it does focus on the "soldiers are heroes" thing over the actual tragedy, which is an issue Americans have as well, thus the sarcastic knee-jerk.
All of the above interpreted Marx's theory and adapted it to their specific societies and goals so they indeed are communists in that sense. On the other hand, claiming that that's all communism is is just ignorant. None of the systems those people built were the kind of communism Marx originally envisioned. What really fucking annoys me is: "my specific, perfect, entirely infalliable..."(click to show/hide)
All of the above interpreted Marx's theory and adapted it to their specific societies and goals so they indeed are communists in that sense. On the other hand, claiming that that's all communism is is just ignorant. None of the systems those people built were the kind of communism Marx originally envisioned. What really fucking annoys me is: "my specific, perfect, entirely infalliable..."(click to show/hide)
In this case sarcasm is a dishonest way to attack the argument and can be used against any ideology that has any kind of flaws and has several interpretations - in other words, pretty much all of them. "Yeah, crony capitalism sucks but my specific, perfect, entirely infallible brand of capitalism has never been tried!"
Actually... no. Communism DOES work. It just only works in exceedingly small scale. The studies I've read denote that after about 100 people in a space, it tends to fall apart. Below that? Yeah, it works. Not perfectly, because there are sociopaths out there, but it does work.
All of the above interpreted Marx's theory and adapted it to their specific societies and goals so they indeed are communists in that sense. On the other hand, claiming that that's all communism is is just ignorant. None of the systems those people built were the kind of communism Marx originally envisioned. What really fucking annoys me is: "my specific, perfect, entirely infalliable..."(click to show/hide)
In this case sarcasm is a dishonest way to attack the argument and can be used against any ideology that has any kind of flaws and has several interpretations - in other words, pretty much all of them. "Yeah, crony capitalism sucks but my specific, perfect, entirely infallible brand of capitalism has never been tried!"
You know, there's a reason Marx's vision has never been tried: it's completely unworkable in the real world. And communism has failed every single time it was tried.
Oh yeah, nationally speaking, Communism doesn't work. Humanity just isn't wired to work that way. It's one of those 'sounds good on paper' things, but in practice, yeah, no, there's too many assholes out there.
All of the above interpreted Marx's theory and adapted it to their specific societies and goals so they indeed are communists in that sense. On the other hand, claiming that that's all communism is is just ignorant. None of the systems those people built were the kind of communism Marx originally envisioned. What really fucking annoys me is: "my specific, perfect, entirely infalliable..."(click to show/hide)
In this case sarcasm is a dishonest way to attack the argument and can be used against any ideology that has any kind of flaws and has several interpretations - in other words, pretty much all of them. "Yeah, crony capitalism sucks but my specific, perfect, entirely infallible brand of capitalism has never been tried!"
I've noticed the depressing trend (coming from progressives rather than neoliberals this time around) of saying, "We need to get rid of this crony capitalism so that true capitalism will fix our economic problems."
No. Beyond the obvious no-true-scotsman fallacy, just no.
Communists had to own up to the fact that the highly-flawed, authoritarian implementations of real-world communism are, in fact, communism. We need to ditch the "crony capitalism" phrase; if you're willing to say we live in a capitalist economy, you should also own up to the fact that cronyism is a natural outgrowth of the tenets of capitalism.
You know, there's a reason Marx's vision has never been tried: it's completely unworkable in the real world. And communism has failed every single time it was tried.
See, this is the kind of double-standard I'm talking about; motivated by little more than petty nationalism. What metric are you using to say communism has failed? China seems to be doing pretty well right now. What metric are you using to say capitalism is successful? The United States has what could generously be called a mixed economy and we have several command-economy structures in place to regulate the periodic failures of unrestrained capitalism.
Get your definitions straight before claiming either economic system has "failed".
A natural outgrowth, yes, but more moderate capitalism has a far, far better track record than any form of communism in just about every way.
Chinese communism went out with Deng Xiaoping. These days, China's about as "communist" as Imperial Germany.
Oh yeah, nationally speaking, Communism doesn't work. Humanity just isn't wired to work that way. It's one of those 'sounds good on paper' things, but in practice, yeah, no, there's too many assholes out there.
Quick question: do you think capitalism works on a national scale? I'm tempted to argue your point, but I don't want to put words in your mouth.
Capitalism has been stuck in the endless rollercoaster of growth spurts and recessions with occasional huge crash. What were you saying about insanity again? To be more serious insanity thing doesn't really apply to either system. People are trying to adjust both the capitalist and marxist theories based on the flaws that have surfaced in the systems so nobody is trying the same thing endlessly.All of the above interpreted Marx's theory and adapted it to their specific societies and goals so they indeed are communists in that sense. On the other hand, claiming that that's all communism is is just ignorant. None of the systems those people built were the kind of communism Marx originally envisioned. What really fucking annoys me is: "my specific, perfect, entirely infalliable..."(click to show/hide)
In this case sarcasm is a dishonest way to attack the argument and can be used against any ideology that has any kind of flaws and has several interpretations - in other words, pretty much all of them. "Yeah, crony capitalism sucks but my specific, perfect, entirely infallible brand of capitalism has never been tried!"
You know, there's a reason Marx's vision has never been tried: it's completely unworkable in the real world. And communism has failed every single time it was tried.
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I'd say that pretty much sums up modern communists.
Hopefully this argument keeps going, it's a very interesting one. That said, it's my personal opinion that the answer lies in our much-beloved mixed economy. To me, the ideal economic system would look very similar to the United States economy - just with more regulations and less freedom for corporations to do whatever the fuck they want with our government.
Capitalism has been stuck in the endless rollercoaster of growth spurts and recessions with occasional huge crash. What were you saying about insanity again? To be more serious insanity thing doesn't really apply to either system. People are trying to adjust both the capitalist and marxist theories based on the flaws that have surfaced in the systems so nobody is trying the same thing endlessly.All of the above interpreted Marx's theory and adapted it to their specific societies and goals so they indeed are communists in that sense. On the other hand, claiming that that's all communism is is just ignorant. None of the systems those people built were the kind of communism Marx originally envisioned. What really fucking annoys me is: "my specific, perfect, entirely infalliable..."(click to show/hide)
In this case sarcasm is a dishonest way to attack the argument and can be used against any ideology that has any kind of flaws and has several interpretations - in other words, pretty much all of them. "Yeah, crony capitalism sucks but my specific, perfect, entirely infallible brand of capitalism has never been tried!"
You know, there's a reason Marx's vision has never been tried: it's completely unworkable in the real world. And communism has failed every single time it was tried.
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I'd say that pretty much sums up modern communists.
Notice that I don't count myself as a communist since I don't know the economic theories enough to really comment on them with any kind of depth. I'm pointing out what I think is a logical flaw in the actual argument.
Edit: Oh, forgot to mention Cuba. It's kind of a special case since it's a communist experiment that has been and is being ruined not by the system itself but by the US embargo. It's impossible to say how it would have turned out without suffering from having its international trade capacity crippled.
Ironically, the Cuba of today has very high literacy rates and decent healthcare (when it's not being impacted by US embargoes), and they're also a very environment-friendly nation. I mean, it's still a shitty place to live if you're a political dissident, but you've got to admit that they're doing something right.
The United States still has a basic contradiction: we accept democracy for our laws, but we tolerate a dictatorship in the workplace. Socialism at least addresses that contradiction.
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The United States still has a basic contradiction: we accept democracy for our laws, but we tolerate a dictatorship in the workplace. Socialism at least addresses that contradiction.
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Oh don't get me wrong, socialism's not a bad system. It has its own set of problems, however, and I feel that strongly regulated capitalism better suits the nature of humanity, i.e. to be greedy fucks whenever possible.
The United States still has a basic contradiction: we accept democracy for our laws, but we tolerate a dictatorship in the workplace. Socialism at least addresses that contradiction.
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Oh don't get me wrong, socialism's not a bad system. It has its own set of problems, however, and I feel that strongly regulated capitalism better suits the nature of humanity, i.e. to be greedy fucks whenever possible.
Basic income is the solution for me as well, though I still see it interfacing well with a strongly regulated form of capitalism, among other things. Call it socialist capitalism, if you will.So Canada?
For my part, I think the problem with communism isn't so much the economics, (although my limited understand is that mixed approach ala the Nordics works better then full communism or capitalism), but the idea of changing society through a violent revolution. Mass violence, civil war, instability etc radicalize people and play into the hands of ruthless, power hunger people who see anyone who disagrees with them as an enemy to be destroyed. Then when the revolution succeeds you've got a country run by the people best at murdering their opponents and a population that has been through hell and wants safety and someone else to blame.
That's not to say that violent revolution is never justified, but like any other kind of war it should be avoided unless absolutely necessary.
That's probably a misconception (http://msuweb.montclair.edu/~furrg/gbi/docs/kingmyth.html), but if he had wanted to be king he probably could have gotten enough support to do so.
And he could well have been president-for-life if he hadn't stepped down after two terms in office as well. In fact, it's really lucky that George Washington was a genuinely nice guy who stuck to his principles; if he'd been ambitious enough, he could well have turned the United States into a self-serving dictatorship.
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Hope this one works.
EDIT: It worked! Anyway, I'm not fully libertarian myself, but I do share some of their tendencies. And yes, I realize some of the things in the "prison wall" are not actually bad things at all.
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This is probably one of the very few political cartoons with a sentiment that both the libertarians and the socialists can agree on.
Isn't Ben Garrison the guy that draws those jews with the massive noses?
Hopefully this argument keeps going, it's a very interesting one. That said, it's my personal opinion that the answer lies in our much-beloved mixed economy. To me, the ideal economic system would look very similar to the United States economy - just with more regulations and less freedom for corporations to do whatever the fuck they want with our government.
The United States still has a basic contradiction: we accept democracy for our laws, but we tolerate a dictatorship in the workplace. Socialism at least addresses that contradiction.
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The easy solution is strong trade unions with a lot of institutional power. If an employer tries to sack a trade union member for being one, jail
The easy solution is strong trade unions with a lot of institutional power. If an employer tries to sack a trade union member for being one, jail
And the difference is... what, exactly?
If you give a union too much power, how do you stop it from basically becoming another hierarchy with a "CEO" that hoards all of the money and leverages power to basically "fire" any dissidents?
The easy solution isstrong trade unionsworkers with a lot of institutional power. If an employer tries to sacka trade union member for being oneworkers for exercising control over their place of employment, jail
There's a difference between "should be" and "is".
There are abusive unions out there. Some are almost as abusive as corporations. Let's not kid ourselves here.
There's a difference between "should be" and "is".
There are abusive unions out there. Some are almost as abusive as corporations. Let's not kid ourselves here.
Like I said, it's trivially easy to design legislation that would make unions an authentic representative body. Even in the current system they're pretty good, nowhere near as bad as even the least corrupt corporation.
There's a difference between "should be" and "is".
There are abusive unions out there. Some are almost as abusive as corporations. Let's not kid ourselves here.
Like I said, it's trivially easy to design legislation that would make unions an authentic representative body. Even in the current system they're pretty good, nowhere near as bad as even the least corrupt corporation.
It would also be trivially easy to design loopholes.
What about the otherwise unchecked tyranny of the Corporation? Corrupt corporations and corrupt unions - both exist, but that does not means that either or both institutions should therefor all be destroyed. Organized crime runs on a corporate mentality - hence the term, "organized". Quite a few corporations are ruthless to the point of blatant criminality, but because of their social standing, the corrupt officers are nearly never brought to justice. Fuck, they just graduate to politics! Look at Gov. Rick Scott for the perfect example. This multi-billion dollar CEO fraudster should be in the cell next to Bernie Madoff, instead, he just got re-elected the Governor of Florida, where he can and does impact the lives and well-being of 20,000,000 people.
There's a difference between "should be" and "is".
There are abusive unions out there. Some are almost as abusive as corporations. Let's not kid ourselves here.
And besides, measures must be taken to prevent tyranny of the majority.
Well, where there's smoke, there's fire. The ties between labor unions and organized crime cannot be ignored.Forgive my ignorance, but what ties to organized crime?
There's a difference between "should be" and "is".
There are abusive unions out there. Some are almost as abusive as corporations. Let's not kid ourselves here.
I would need some data behind that assertion. Raw numbers of the aggregate political power of all abusive unions versus the political power of all corporations. My guess is it's no contest; large corporations get 99% of what they want and all the bitching about unions is a leftover from vast amounts of anti-union propaganda.
Well, where there's smoke, there's fire. The ties between labor unions and organized crime cannot be ignored.Forgive my ignorance, but what ties to organized crime?
Well, where there's smoke, there's fire. The ties between labor unions and organized crime cannot be ignored. This isn't just an American thing, either. It's happened in France, Italy, and Japan as well.
And besides, measures must be taken to prevent tyranny of the majority.
Well, where there's smoke, there's fire. The ties between labor unions and organized crime cannot be ignored. This isn't just an American thing, either. It's happened in France, Italy, and Japan as well.
And besides, measures must be taken to prevent tyranny of the majority.
What about the tyranny of the minority?
Well, where there's smoke, there's fire. The ties between labor unions and organized crime cannot be ignored. This isn't just an American thing, either. It's happened in France, Italy, and Japan as well.
And besides, measures must be taken to prevent tyranny of the majority.
What about the tyranny of the minority?
That too.
Well, sure, but could you link some DoD and FBI reports on the subject?Well, where there's smoke, there's fire. The ties between labor unions and organized crime cannot be ignored.Forgive my ignorance, but what ties to organized crime?
Jimmy Hoffa is a good example.
Well, sure, but could you link some DoD and FBI reports on the subject?Well, where there's smoke, there's fire. The ties between labor unions and organized crime cannot be ignored.Forgive my ignorance, but what ties to organized crime?
Jimmy Hoffa is a good example.
I mean, Jimmy Hofffa's been dead for 30+ years.
Good point, but I read the cartoon as being targeted at both major parties. There are two men wearing dollar sign armbands, just as there are two capitalist parties. The Republicans are worse than the Democrats on most of those issues, but that does not necessarily make the Democrats right.
For what it's worth, President Obama doing anything on immigration is going to hurt him. Going around Congress will get the Republicans fired up, and even people on the fence might not like it.Agreed. 2016 might even be an election going the Republicans' way, if the immigration issue continues or if Obama pushes it. My traditionally Blue state went for the Republicans just now based on how the majority feel about "illegal" immigrants. The Democrats probably should "cut bait" and let the Republicans run with the immigration issue, for better or worse. Otherwise the Democrats will just lose the 2016 and maybe 2018 elections by sticking to a lose-lose situation, however morally correct it was.
I'm not sure the left is really all that strong in America, or ever was. Sure, we're on the Internet and it's easy for us to sound big, but I don't think hardcore leftwingers have ever had large numbers in real life. The base of the Republican Party is rightwingers. The base of the Democratic Party is blue collar workers and minorities who may not always be excited about some of the more lofty progressive goals.
I'm not sure the left is really all that strong in America, or ever was. Sure, we're on the Internet and it's easy for us to sound big, but I don't think hardcore leftwingers have ever had large numbers in real life. The base of the Republican Party is rightwingers. The base of the Democratic Party is blue collar workers and minorities who may not always be excited about some of the more lofty progressive goals.
Thing is, I don't think that those on the left really know how to organize and get into politics. Republicans and the right wing are pretty good at coming up with terms and ideologies and convincing people of them. The left needs to be able to know how to do that in order to gain popularity and get more votes.
At any given time in modern history, a Greatest Country in the World, if it ever existed according to any realistic set of statistics, would hold that number one position only briefly. With how the world works now, all within an interconnected global economy, and to an increasing extent, global policies, there never will be a Greatest Country.
Touting your country's greatness can be as benign as team pride, or as toxic as genocidal imperialism. Probably best to just forget the whole jingoistic Greatness obsession and focus instead on enlightened self interest through joint projects with other nations.
All any nation can aspire to is to be a decent fucking neighbor in the global neighborhood. Make useful things. Educate your citizens. Don't let your neighbor down the street beat and abuse their family (citizens). Don't let them starve. But don't be an over-zealous, nosey bully with a secret greedy agenda when you intervene. Volunteer to go in on big projects that make the whole neighborhood better, safer and more advanced.
At any given time in modern history, a Greatest Country in the World, if it ever existed according to any realistic set of statistics, would hold that number one position only briefly. With how the world works now, all within an interconnected global economy, and to an increasing extent, global policies, there never will be a Greatest Country.
Touting your country's greatness can be as benign as team pride, or as toxic as genocidal imperialism. Probably best to just forget the whole jingoistic Greatness obsession and focus instead on enlightened self interest through joint projects with other nations.
All any nation can aspire to is to be a decent fucking neighbor in the global neighborhood. Make useful things. Educate your citizens. Don't let your neighbor down the street beat and abuse their family (citizens). Don't let them starve. But don't be an over-zealous, nosey bully with a secret greedy agenda when you intervene. Volunteer to go in on big projects that make the whole neighborhood better, safer and more advanced.
Damn straight. How would you quantify "greatness" anyway? And who is really qualified to make that judgement, without having extensively studied the languages, cultures, and histories of every nation in human history? Someone claiming that their country is the greatest in the world is like a toddler saying that they have the best mommy in the world.
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(http://media.cagle.com/10/2014/12/01/156893_600.jpg)Two questions:
1. Why do all these people look incredibly stupid?
2. What the hell is this cartoon trying to say?
To me it seems the image would be more accurate if some of the black people had megaphones and tried to shout at the white people to get their attention while being completely ignored. On the other hand, I might be wrong about this since I follow the situation only superficially from far away.(http://media.cagle.com/10/2014/12/01/156893_600.jpg)Two questions:
1. Why do all these people look incredibly stupid?
2. What the hell is this cartoon trying to say?
Can't answer to the stupid thing, but I think the point is that, for all the talk about race relations in the U.S., how to improve them, etc., almost all of the "dialogue" is between people who happen to be of the same race. There's still not a lot of actual interracial dialogue.
(http://oi61.tinypic.com/2mq0ox5.jpg)Actually, from what I can tell most radical feminist tend to harm women more than men (SWEFS, TERFS, ect.) similarly to how most victims of the French Revolution were peasants.
(http://oi61.tinypic.com/2mq0ox5.jpg)Actually, from what I can tell most radical feminist tend to harm women more than men (SWEFS, TERFS, ect.) similarly to how most victims of the French Revolution were peasants.
Either way the radical feminist movement is stupid and destructive.(http://oi61.tinypic.com/2mq0ox5.jpg)Actually, from what I can tell most radical feminist tend to harm women more than men (SWEFS, TERFS, ect.) similarly to how most victims of the French Revolution were peasants.
I'm not entirely sure if that's true, but radical feminism's negative impact on hookers and trans* people is still worthy of discussion.
Or maybe that's a gigolo or a transwoman she's getting ready to kill.
Either way the radical feminist movement is stupid and destructive.
No, not really.Either way the radical feminist movement is stupid and destructive.
Are there really enough of them to make a big deal about it?
Either way the radical feminist movement is stupid and destructive.
Are there really enough of them to make a big deal about it?
Sounds like the elusive feminazis to me...
Either way the radical feminist movement is stupid and destructive.
Are there really enough of them to make a big deal about it?
Sounds like the elusive feminazis to me...
Does it matter?
I'm not entirely sure if that's true, but radical feminism's negative impact on hookers and trans* people is still worthy of discussion.
Either way the radical feminist movement is stupid and destructive.(http://oi61.tinypic.com/2mq0ox5.jpg)Actually, from what I can tell most radical feminist tend to harm women more than men (SWEFS, TERFS, ect.) similarly to how most victims of the French Revolution were peasants.
I'm not entirely sure if that's true, but radical feminism's negative impact on hookers and trans* people is still worthy of discussion.
Or maybe that's a gigolo or a transwoman she's getting ready to kill.
(http://oi62.tinypic.com/2ujtcvo.jpg)Resounding meh.
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i don't see how that's good. but perhaps i'm being a bit harsh, on account of the fact that i don't believe in the concept of racism (xenophobia, on the other hand is a huge problem). you see, admitting that there is a concept of "racism" is admitting that there are different races of humans. there are none anymore (for example, neanderthal was a different race, but they're extinct). this cartoon is a bunch of strawmen. what should be done is adress the root cause instead of decrying those fallacies.
10 is a moot point. it's over and done, get over it. the more defensive you are, the guiltier you look.
9 is bull. it's not ok to criticize anyone based on origins.
8 is false, seeing as xenophobia is still rampant worldwide.
7 is a no true scotsman.
6 is too near-sighted. let's talk "racism", not "racism against x". target the big problem, not the details.
5 what. cultural myopia combined with political correctness gone silly?
4 it does distract from the point, but it is related, so no, it's not unfair. immigration is a problem: humans should go wherever they feel like going.
3 bull. unless you're a goddamned blessed handyman, give credit where credit is due.
2 no true scotsman.
1 good for you, that however doesn't discount you from helping to kill racism and xenophobia. that's what i'm doing right now.
this comic is as racist as anything: just flip the race card around and it applies to any background. that, and it's racist by recognizing whites as a race. it's not. i'd move this to "worst political cartoons", truth be told.
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i don't see how that's good. but perhaps i'm being a bit harsh, on account of the fact that i don't believe in the concept of racism (xenophobia, on the other hand is a huge problem). you see, admitting that there is a concept of "racism" is admitting that there are different races of humans. there are none anymore (for example, neanderthal was a different race, but they're extinct). this cartoon is a bunch of strawmen. what should be done is adress the root cause instead of decrying those fallacies.
10 is a moot point. it's over and done, get over it. the more defensive you are, the guiltier you look.
9 is bull. it's not ok to criticize anyone based on origins.
8 is false, seeing as xenophobia is still rampant worldwide.
7 is a no true scotsman.
6 is too near-sighted. let's talk "racism", not "racism against x". target the big problem, not the details.
5 what. cultural myopia combined with political correctness gone silly?
4 it does distract from the point, but it is related, so no, it's not unfair. immigration is a problem: humans should go wherever they feel like going.
3 bull. unless you're a goddamned blessed handyman, give credit where credit is due.
2 no true scotsman.
1 good for you, that however doesn't discount you from helping to kill racism and xenophobia. that's what i'm doing right now.
this comic is as racist as anything: just flip the race card around and it applies to any background. that, and it's racist by recognizing whites as a race. it's not. i'd move this to "worst political cartoons", truth be told.
...I think you're really missing the point.
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i don't see how that's good. but perhaps i'm being a bit harsh, on account of the fact that i don't believe in the concept of racism (xenophobia, on the other hand is a huge problem). you see, admitting that there is a concept of "racism" is admitting that there are different races of humans. there are none anymore (for example, neanderthal was a different race, but they're extinct). this cartoon is a bunch of strawmen. what should be done is adress the root cause instead of decrying those fallacies.
10 is a moot point. it's over and done, get over it. the more defensive you are, the guiltier you look.
9 is bull. it's not ok to criticize anyone based on origins.
8 is false, seeing as xenophobia is still rampant worldwide.
7 is a no true scotsman.
6 is too near-sighted. let's talk "racism", not "racism against x". target the big problem, not the details.
5 what. cultural myopia combined with political correctness gone silly?
4 it does distract from the point, but it is related, so no, it's not unfair. immigration is a problem: humans should go wherever they feel like going.
3 bull. unless you're a goddamned blessed handyman, give credit where credit is due.
2 no true scotsman.
1 good for you, that however doesn't discount you from helping to kill racism and xenophobia. that's what i'm doing right now.
this comic is as racist as anything: just flip the race card around and it applies to any background. that, and it's racist by recognizing whites as a race. it's not. i'd move this to "worst political cartoons", truth be told.
...I think you're really missing the point.
nah, felt like raging tumblr-style. but imagine not believing in race like i do and seeing humans tear each other apart. it would rankle for you too.
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i don't see how that's good. but perhaps i'm being a bit harsh, on account of the fact that i don't believe in the concept of racism (xenophobia, on the other hand is a huge problem). you see, admitting that there is a concept of "racism" is admitting that there are different races of humans. there are none anymore (for example, neanderthal was a different race, but they're extinct). this cartoon is a bunch of strawmen. what should be done is adress the root cause instead of decrying those fallacies.
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i don't see how that's good. but perhaps i'm being a bit harsh, on account of the fact that i don't believe in the concept of racism (xenophobia, on the other hand is a huge problem). you see, admitting that there is a concept of "racism" is admitting that there are different races of humans. there are none anymore (for example, neanderthal was a different race, but they're extinct). this cartoon is a bunch of strawmen. what should be done is adress the root cause instead of decrying those fallacies.
Except that, y'know, racism is real and there are different races of humans in the relevant sense.
One can argue about whether "race" corresponds to a biologically meaningful concept like "species" or "subspecies" or whatever. I'll leave that to the biologists. But it is a simple empirical fact that there are groups of people with some ethnically related traits, be it shape of eyes or melanin content or something else*. And people treat other people differently based on which groups they belong to. The argument that it's not really racism because you choose to define race as "subspecies" is semantics. The word has a clear meaning in common usage; that it doesn't match the "subspecies" definition is a problem with that definition, not proof that the concept doesn't exist.
*not necessarily sharply distinguished groups, there are obviously going to be edge cases, but that doesn't change the argument.
indeed, it is semantics, yet therein lies the problem: if we attack the root cause as different "races", then it implies that people are indeed different, whereas if we attack the problem the same way as we fight xenophobia (which it is), then it's easier to handle. for instance, culture shock and fear of the unknown are the root causes of xenophobia, and we can fight that. how do you want to fight a problem that boils down to "i don't like him 'cause he's black"? you can't, so you change your angle of attack. that's what i'm getting at. sigma, you of all people know that words have power. let's drop the pretense that racism is a thing and call it for what it is: xenophobia. sure, it's not ideal (we're on earth and not pixie-land), but at least let's destroy an ennemy we can fight. once xenophobia is curbed, racism will go down as well incidentally.
indeed, it is semantics, yet therein lies the problem: if we attack the root cause as different "races", then it implies that people are indeed different, whereas if we attack the problem the same way as we fight xenophobia (which it is), then it's easier to handle. for instance, culture shock and fear of the unknown are the root causes of xenophobia, and we can fight that. how do you want to fight a problem that boils down to "i don't like him 'cause he's black"? you can't, so you change your angle of attack. that's what i'm getting at. sigma, you of all people know that words have power. let's drop the pretense that racism is a thing and call it for what it is: xenophobia. sure, it's not ideal (we're on earth and not pixie-land), but at least let's destroy an ennemy we can fight. once xenophobia is curbed, racism will go down as well incidentally.
Hmm. I disagree with your terminology, but I mostly agree with your plan of action.
He can’t have it both ways. He can’t take the high horse and then claim the low road.
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would "enhanced political activism" be a brick to the face? i hate those people.
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would "enhanced political activism" be a brick to the face? i hate those people.
Homestead, surely? Or Kent State?
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would "enhanced political activism" be a brick to the face? i hate those people.
would "enhanced political activism" be a brick to the face? i hate those people.
for the first time in forever, charlie hebdo is going to print 3 million papers, translated in 15 languages. and guess what? some idiots still think it's an offensive representation of the prophet.
still, good on charlie. might save them financially.
I dunno...someone on Imgur pointed out that Muhammad's head in that pic looks distinctly like a cock and balls.I think that is just a coincidence and whoever thinks that just has a dirty mind or wants to see hidden images in everything.
Hello, I'm back with a new look, name and attitude. No more crazy from me. I'm ashamed of how I was last time.
Happy New year, everyone! How's everything? Startin' fresh here.
I like the Mohammed cartoons where he's a sympathetic character who's sick of the nuts killing in his name. If I "Drew Mohammed" in protest, that would be my approach.
The ones about "The Pen/Pencil/Brush Is Mightier Than The Sword" is great, too.
Hello, I'm back with a new look, name and attitude. No more crazy from me. I'm ashamed of how I was last time.
Happy New year, everyone! How's everything? Startin' fresh here.
Yeah, that "We're gonna do a work slow down - RAWR!!" thing shows just how brutally clueless a majority in the NYPD have become.
Most important, the NYPD hasn’t “proved the opposite” of why they’re needed. They’re not trying to prove anything to the average citizen. What they’re trying to do is prove to the mayor and city government that they’re needed - and the reason the mayor and city government need them is that the fines they collect for minor offenses make up a lot of the city’s revenue. They’re probably doing a perfectly good job of proving to the mayor that he needs them for this. Our opinions are irrelevant.
Hello, I'm back with a new look, name and attitude. No more crazy from me. I'm ashamed of how I was last time.
Happy New year, everyone! How's everything? Startin' fresh here.
yay! welcome back, spuki! :)
I like the Mohammed cartoons where he's a sympathetic character who's sick of the nuts killing in his name. If I "Drew Mohammed" in protest, that would be my approach.
The ones about "The Pen/Pencil/Brush Is Mightier Than The Sword" is great, too.
Hello, I'm back with a new look, name and attitude. No more crazy from me. I'm ashamed of how I was last time.
Happy New year, everyone! How's everything? Startin' fresh here.
It's great to see you again!
Yay! Welcome back, Spuki....and from now on I'll say Barbarella. Cool avi.
Yeah, that "We're gonna do a work slow down - RAWR!!" thing shows just how brutally clueless a majority in the NYPD have become.
This has been bugging me for a while, until someone (http://slatestarscratchpad.tumblr.com/post/108074540166/darvinasafo-my-thoughts-exactly-1-crime) pointed out the (in hindsight) obvious:QuoteMost important, the NYPD hasn’t “proved the opposite” of why they’re needed. They’re not trying to prove anything to the average citizen. What they’re trying to do is prove to the mayor and city government that they’re needed - and the reason the mayor and city government need them is that the fines they collect for minor offenses make up a lot of the city’s revenue. They’re probably doing a perfectly good job of proving to the mayor that he needs them for this. Our opinions are irrelevant.
Hello, I'm back with a new look, name and attitude. No more crazy from me. I'm ashamed of how I was last time.
Happy New year, everyone! How's everything? Startin' fresh here.
Geez, the mayor will need to start making budget cuts because of this.Yeah, that "We're gonna do a work slow down - RAWR!!" thing shows just how brutally clueless a majority in the NYPD have become.
This has been bugging me for a while, until someone (http://slatestarscratchpad.tumblr.com/post/108074540166/darvinasafo-my-thoughts-exactly-1-crime) pointed out the (in hindsight) obvious:QuoteMost important, the NYPD hasn’t “proved the opposite” of why they’re needed. They’re not trying to prove anything to the average citizen. What they’re trying to do is prove to the mayor and city government that they’re needed - and the reason the mayor and city government need them is that the fines they collect for minor offenses make up a lot of the city’s revenue. They’re probably doing a perfectly good job of proving to the mayor that he needs them for this. Our opinions are irrelevant.
Geez, the mayor will need to start making budget cuts because of this.Yeah, that "We're gonna do a work slow down - RAWR!!" thing shows just how brutally clueless a majority in the NYPD have become.
This has been bugging me for a while, until someone (http://slatestarscratchpad.tumblr.com/post/108074540166/darvinasafo-my-thoughts-exactly-1-crime) pointed out the (in hindsight) obvious:QuoteMost important, the NYPD hasn’t “proved the opposite” of why they’re needed. They’re not trying to prove anything to the average citizen. What they’re trying to do is prove to the mayor and city government that they’re needed - and the reason the mayor and city government need them is that the fines they collect for minor offenses make up a lot of the city’s revenue. They’re probably doing a perfectly good job of proving to the mayor that he needs them for this. Our opinions are irrelevant.
To bad there isn't some department with a massively inflated budget, perhaps one that routinly gets APCs and grenade launchers...
1. The NYPD has an annual budget of 4 billion dollars.Geez, the mayor will need to start making budget cuts because of this.Yeah, that "We're gonna do a work slow down - RAWR!!" thing shows just how brutally clueless a majority in the NYPD have become.
This has been bugging me for a while, until someone (http://slatestarscratchpad.tumblr.com/post/108074540166/darvinasafo-my-thoughts-exactly-1-crime) pointed out the (in hindsight) obvious:QuoteMost important, the NYPD hasn’t “proved the opposite” of why they’re needed. They’re not trying to prove anything to the average citizen. What they’re trying to do is prove to the mayor and city government that they’re needed - and the reason the mayor and city government need them is that the fines they collect for minor offenses make up a lot of the city’s revenue. They’re probably doing a perfectly good job of proving to the mayor that he needs them for this. Our opinions are irrelevant.
To bad there isn't some department with a massively inflated budget, perhaps one that routinly gets APCs and grenade launchers...
The military? Because they are the ones providing their excess equipment to the police.
And while reducing their budget sounds like a great idea, I'm pretty sure the mayor can't do that.
1. The NYPD has an annual budget of 4 billion dollars.Geez, the mayor will need to start making budget cuts because of this.Yeah, that "We're gonna do a work slow down - RAWR!!" thing shows just how brutally clueless a majority in the NYPD have become.
This has been bugging me for a while, until someone (http://slatestarscratchpad.tumblr.com/post/108074540166/darvinasafo-my-thoughts-exactly-1-crime) pointed out the (in hindsight) obvious:QuoteMost important, the NYPD hasn’t “proved the opposite” of why they’re needed. They’re not trying to prove anything to the average citizen. What they’re trying to do is prove to the mayor and city government that they’re needed - and the reason the mayor and city government need them is that the fines they collect for minor offenses make up a lot of the city’s revenue. They’re probably doing a perfectly good job of proving to the mayor that he needs them for this. Our opinions are irrelevant.
To bad there isn't some department with a massively inflated budget, perhaps one that routinly gets APCs and grenade launchers...
The military? Because they are the ones providing their excess equipment to the police.
And while reducing their budget sounds like a great idea, I'm pretty sure the mayor can't do that.
2. Sadly true.
The congress is throwing money and vehicles at the military because they want the money to go to the manufacturers and the military is forced to mothball brand new tanks and planes that they don't need.1. The NYPD has an annual budget of 4 billion dollars.Geez, the mayor will need to start making budget cuts because of this.Yeah, that "We're gonna do a work slow down - RAWR!!" thing shows just how brutally clueless a majority in the NYPD have become.
This has been bugging me for a while, until someone (http://slatestarscratchpad.tumblr.com/post/108074540166/darvinasafo-my-thoughts-exactly-1-crime) pointed out the (in hindsight) obvious:QuoteMost important, the NYPD hasn’t “proved the opposite” of why they’re needed. They’re not trying to prove anything to the average citizen. What they’re trying to do is prove to the mayor and city government that they’re needed - and the reason the mayor and city government need them is that the fines they collect for minor offenses make up a lot of the city’s revenue. They’re probably doing a perfectly good job of proving to the mayor that he needs them for this. Our opinions are irrelevant.
To bad there isn't some department with a massively inflated budget, perhaps one that routinly gets APCs and grenade launchers...
The military? Because they are the ones providing their excess equipment to the police.
And while reducing their budget sounds like a great idea, I'm pretty sure the mayor can't do that.
2. Sadly true.
Sad thing is, the military doesn't even want the money Congress is lavishing on them.
Not quite a cartoon but a collection of remarks by Putin about other countries (some may have only been implied.)
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Not quite a cartoon but a collection of remarks by Putin about other countries (some may have only been implied.)
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I gotta get those "Atlas of Prejudice" books. Looks very interesting.
Love the names of the seas & oceans.
Methinks Putin...ahem..."Doth protesteth too much"...if you get my drift?
Not quite a cartoon but a collection of remarks by Putin about other countries (some may have only been implied.)
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I gotta get those "Atlas of Prejudice" books. Looks very interesting.
Love the names of the seas & oceans.
Methinks Putin...ahem..."Doth protesteth too much"...if you get my drift?
I wonder how wide his stance is. ;)
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Good thing my home team is the Bills! They did really good this year. I'm proud of them.
Granted, my parents and I no longer live at "Home" but we're not gonna suddenly "Go Titans!" no sir!
And the Pat's are in deep doodoo! They should have a Super Bowl rematch!
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Good thing my home team is the Bills! They did really good this year. I'm proud of them.
Granted, my parents and I no longer live at "Home" but we're not gonna suddenly "Go Titans!" no sir!
And the Pat's are in deep doodoo! They should have a Super Bowl rematch!
Yeah they did so good the head coach quit on you and you got Rex Ryan.
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Yep! Proof that their real beef with Obama involves melanin. When Obama does/says/supports something that the GOP does/did, it suddenly becomes "OMG! LIBRUL COMMIE HIPPIE MOOSELIP SATANIST LIZARD ALIEN WHATEVER!".
Now, Obama's not perfect but this is ridiculous!
Except that in most countries there are more than two candidates/parties.Fuck your comme bullshit.
Except that in most countries there are more than two candidates/parties.
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Unfortunately the joke does not work for everyone because at least three of those theories still have fanatical skeptics.
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Unfortunately the joke does not work for everyone because at least three of those theories still have fanatical skeptics.
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I like this one. Humorous, too. Time to vote the GOP out....and Hispanic Americans will be at the forefront of doing just that!
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I like this one. Humorous, too. Time to vote the GOP out....and Hispanic Americans will be at the forefront of doing just that!
Except that Hispanics tend to be pretty socially conservative, and GOP strategists are good at playing that card.
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I like this one. Humorous, too. Time to vote the GOP out....and Hispanic Americans will be at the forefront of doing just that!
Except that Hispanics tend to be pretty socially conservative, and GOP strategists are good at playing that card.
Even so, why is the GOP constantly trying to obstruct them in everything? Latinos...along with blacks...are like a GOP-Boogeyman.
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Is Putin dead?
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Is Putin dead?
Eh, except the Dodo was hunted to extinction, which yes is a man-made change to their environment, as in erasing them from their environment. Cartoon would have been a little funnier if the state bird was changed to an ostrich with it's head stuck in the sand, maybe.
Eh, except the Dodo was hunted to extinction, which yes is a man-made change to their environment, as in erasing them from their environment. Cartoon would have been a little funnier if the state bird was changed to an ostrich with it's head stuck in the sand, maybe.
Eh, except the Dodo was hunted to extinction, which yes is a man-made change to their environment, as in erasing them from their environment. Cartoon would have been a little funnier if the state bird was changed to an ostrich with it's head stuck in the sand, maybe.
Maybe that's the point of the cartoon. A bit of "Fridge Brilliance" on the part of the cartoonist. A different layer of satire for the satire. Brilliant!
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Won't someone think of the frat boys?
Won't someone think of the frat boys?
The members of Phi Kappa Psi received death threats, had their home vandalized, and had to go into hiding for weeks. They're definitely the victims here.
Won't someone think of the frat boys?
The members of Phi Kappa Psi received death threats, had their home vandalized, and had to go into hiding for weeks. They're definitely the victims here.
Poor frat boys. They are the downtrodden -- the rejects of society. They have no financial resources to help themselves through this turmoil.
Won't someone think of the frat boys?
The members of Phi Kappa Psi received death threats, had their home vandalized, and had to go into hiding for weeks. They're definitely the victims here.
Poor frat boys. They are the downtrodden -- the rejects of society. They have no financial resources to help themselves through this turmoil.
So people cannot be wronged unless they are downtrodden or poor? It's somehow not a bad thing to send death threats to someone if they are in frat?
Things don't suddenly stop being bad when they happen to members of a group you don't like.
(http://img-9gag-ftw.9cache.com/photo/avgxmKM_700b.jpg)5. Attempt to be a white man, preferably of the upper-middle class.
Won't someone think of the frat boys?
The members of Phi Kappa Psi received death threats, had their home vandalized, and had to go into hiding for weeks. They're definitely the victims here.
Poor frat boys. They are the downtrodden -- the rejects of society. They have no financial resources to help themselves through this turmoil.
So people cannot be wronged unless they are downtrodden or poor? It's somehow not a bad thing to send death threats to someone if they are in frat?
Things don't suddenly stop being bad when they happen to members of a group you don't like.
The unlikely false positive is why we demand evidence from the prosecution in a court of law, which I find to be adequate protection for the reputation of the falsely-accused.
The unlikely false positive is why we demand evidence from the prosecution in a court of law, which I find to be adequate protection for the reputation of the falsely-accused.
Except that one doesn't even have to go to court to ruin the accusation of a rape accusation victim. A mere accusation is all it takes for the whole thing to make national news, and from that point on, the person accused of rape will go through the rest of their life as "hey, aren't you the guy who raped that girl?"
Sorry, I'll try again with less snark.
This issue is often framed as a tug-of-war between two sides: the agency of the rape victim versus the reputation of the falsely accused. The most reliable statistics I've been able to find on rape accusations is 33% of rape victims report the crime while 2% of reports are false accusations.
The unlikely false positive is why we demand evidence from the prosecution in a court of law, which I find to be adequate protection for the reputation of the falsely-accused.
I jumped to a conclusion that UP was using this as an cudgel to make it harder for rape victims to publicly accuse rapists, but it's possible that wasn't his intent.
As for any suffering the falsely-accused frat boys went through, I don't buy that it's the same level of torment a rape victim has to endure.
Sorry, I'll try again with less snark.
This issue is often framed as a tug-of-war between two sides: the agency of the rape victim versus the reputation of the falsely accused. The most reliable statistics I've been able to find on rape accusations is 33% of rape victims report the crime while 2% of reports are false accusations.
Source, please?
The NCVS allows for an examination of crimes reported and not reported to police...From 2012 to 2013, there was no statistically significant change in the percentage of violent and serious violent victimizations reported to police...A greater percentage of robbery (68%) and aggravated assault (64%) were reported to police than simple assault (38%) and rape or sexual assault (35%) victimizations.
DiCanio (1993) states that while researchers and prosecutors do not agree on the exact percentage of false allegations, they generally agree on a range of 2% to 10%.[DiCanio, M. (1993). The encyclopedia of violence: origins, attitudes, consequences. New York: Facts on File. ISBN 978-0-8160-2332-5.]
Question: Do victims NEED to publicly accuse the suspect? Do we need to shame the suspect before the courts have decided if they are guilty?
Question: Do victims NEED to publicly accuse the suspect? Do we need to shame the suspect before the courts have decided if they are guilty?
Well, it would be /nice/ if journalists would avoid publicly naming a rape suspect, but they just can't do that.
Question: Do victims NEED to publicly accuse the suspect? Do we need to shame the suspect before the courts have decided if they are guilty?
Well, it would be /nice/ if journalists would avoid publicly naming a rape suspect, but they just can't do that.
That reminds me. Few weeks ago I read a column about how USA and Finland deal with privacy differently. Namely the right to privacy that people have.
In USA those laws come from the bit in the constitution where it says that the government can't search peoples homes without a probable cause, in Finland our laws clearly state that people have the right to privacy.
The distinction is that in USA the law (and the society) are mainly concerned with the GOVERNMENT infringing that right and ONLY the government can do so. In Finland privacy is a right regardless of who would infringe it. This is why the media can publish the names of the suspects in USA but not in Finland. (Much like how the "freedom of speech" bit in the US constitution is only concerned with the US government shutting up people.)
There are exceptions of course. For example if you are a politician or a celebrity in Finland then by making yourself a public figure your right to privacy is limited, the media can do the kind of tabloid news about you that they could not do about "common people."
This also effects other things. In Finland you have to have your child's name approved and there are limits to what kind of names are allowed. You can't give a child a name that is insulting, would cause to have them bullied or for example give a boy a girls name or vise versa. In USA there aren't such limits and any attempt to do so would be seen as the government infringing the rights of the people. This is because in USA choosing the name of the child is considered something that happens "inside the home" and therefore the government has no right to tell you that your child can't be named Fart-eater-lucifer-satan.
Note that I am mainly quoting the article from memory and may have gotten some things wrong.
In USA there aren't such limits and any attempt to do so would be seen as the government infringing the rights of the people. This is because in USA choosing the name of the child is considered something that happens "inside the home" and therefore the government has no right to tell you that your child can't be named Fart-eater-lucifer-satan.
One of the mind-boggling parts of parsing Libertarian rants about mass surveillance here in the U.S. is that they don't seem to mind when it's corporations doing the mass surveillance with the same technology.
I guess if the Free Market™ can use sensitive personal data to make our lives hell, Libertarians are okay with that.
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One of the mind-boggling parts of parsing Libertarian rants about mass surveillance here in the U.S. is that they don't seem to mind when it's corporations doing the mass surveillance with the same technology.
I guess if the Free Market™ can use sensitive personal data to make our lives hell, Libertarians are okay with that.
At the risk of #notalllibertarians, from what I can tell there is a diverse array of ideas within the libertarian spectrum, basically the only thing they have in common is there dislike of Goverment overeach.(http://theheatmag.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/e120208_Steinpg-vertical.jpg)
One of the mind-boggling parts of parsing Libertarian rants about mass surveillance here in the U.S. is that they don't seem to mind when it's corporations doing the mass surveillance with the same technology.
I guess if the Free Market™ can use sensitive personal data to make our lives hell, Libertarians are okay with that.
I guess we hang out with different libertarians? Most of the ones I've interacted with oppose corporate surveillance just as much as government surveillance.
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One of the mind-boggling parts of parsing Libertarian rants about mass surveillance here in the U.S. is that they don't seem to mind when it's corporations doing the mass surveillance with the same technology.
I guess if the Free Market™ can use sensitive personal data to make our lives hell, Libertarians are okay with that.
I guess we hang out with different libertarians? Most of the ones I've interacted with oppose corporate surveillance just as much as government surveillance.
Question: Do victims NEED to publicly accuse the suspect? Do we need to shame the suspect before the courts have decided if they are guilty?
Well, it would be /nice/ if journalists would avoid publicly naming a rape suspect, but they just can't do that.
That reminds me. Few weeks ago I read a column about how USA and Finland deal with privacy differently. Namely the right to privacy that people have.
In USA those laws come from the bit in the constitution where it says that the government can't search peoples homes without a probable cause, in Finland our laws clearly state that people have the right to privacy.
The distinction is that in USA the law (and the society) are mainly concerned with the GOVERNMENT infringing that right and ONLY the government can do so. In Finland privacy is a right regardless of who would infringe it. This is why the media can publish the names of the suspects in USA but not in Finland. (Much like how the "freedom of speech" bit in the US constitution is only concerned with the US government shutting up people.)
There are exceptions of course. For example if you are a politician or a celebrity in Finland then by making yourself a public figure your right to privacy is limited, the media can do the kind of tabloid news about you that they could not do about "common people."
This also effects other things. In Finland you have to have your child's name approved and there are limits to what kind of names are allowed. You can't give a child a name that is insulting, would cause to have them bullied or for example give a boy a girls name or vise versa. In USA there aren't such limits and any attempt to do so would be seen as the government infringing the rights of the people. This is because in USA choosing the name of the child is considered something that happens "inside the home" and therefore the government has no right to tell you that your child can't be named Fart-eater-lucifer-satan.
Note that I am mainly quoting the article from memory and may have gotten some things wrong.
EDIT: Just to stay on topic:
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One of the comments on Imgur was that there is progress since black people are now allowed to dine at the counter.
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I thought it was spelled "cyborg".Obviously Psiborgs are different than regular Cyborgs. Maybe they have Psionic abilities for example.
Why does the black guy look like a white guy with black paint on his face and a wig?
Why does the black guy look like a white guy with black paint on his face and a wig?
I don't know, maybe the artist is from a country where black people aren't common or something.
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I remember seeing a small initiative on Tumblr to replace Chuck Norris jokes with Idris Elba jokes because Chuck Norris is an asshole. Can we get some strong support for this because Idris Elba is awesome?
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Would have? He did.The only reason Chuck Norris is still alive is because he knows when he dies Bruce Lee will be there, waiting for him.
Ironbite-broke his fucking arm.
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After seeing this comic I tried googling Timothy Wilson because it just didn't make sense why they would want to shoot someone who's car is stuck in the mud. Turns out that he was driving without a license (and underaged) and tried to escape from the police. This at least gives us a reason why the police were chasing him, but is not an excuse for shooting him after his vehicle had been immobilized. They could have just blocked his car (just in case he would get it unstuck) and forced him to surrender.
Now I am wondering if I should google the rest of the cases as well but I doubt there will be any surprises. If I were to play the Devil's advocate I could accept that complete and utter incompetence in most of USA's police force is a possible explanation for these cases, but that isn't much better than systemic racism in the police force.
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Mike Luckovich cartoons are another reason I miss living in Atlanta sometimes.
So...taxes are rent on a national scale? That's actually one of the best analogies I've heard in a while. Makes a hell of a lot of sense, to boot, because the government, like a landlord, uses part of the rent money to keep the house in good working order. At least, that's how its supposed to work on paper.
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So...taxes are rent on a national scale? That's actually one of the best analogies I've heard in a while. Makes a hell of a lot of sense, to boot, because the government, like a landlord, uses part of the rent money to keep the house in good working order. At least, that's how its supposed to work on paper.
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This is interesting. We had seen some of his "edited" comics during FSTDT era already but I hadn't known that his comics had been misrepresented.
Is that cartoon saying that we should go after businesses that hire illegals or that deporting illegals will be bad for the economy.
(http://oi59.tinypic.com/6hul8p.jpg)How is that in "Best"?
(http://oi59.tinypic.com/6hul8p.jpg)How is that in "Best"?
I will just preface this by saying I am in fact 17 years old, I am white, and I do live in America. Do I think my problems are worse than that of the people in Ethiopia? Yes, yes I do. I can explain to you in detail. I am being banned constantly. They watch what I do, they read my private messages, and they probably snicker at the things I type, and you act like you know oppression? Those Ethiopians get hurt, sure, but the time is going to come when the reddit admins are going to ban any subreddit for disagreeing with them. Where men and women will not have their say any where. And for now, we have to pay gold for people to access their funny cat pictures (sheeple scum) who won't do any subreddit activism and will only get a cheap laugh, even go1dfish would find this shit unbelievable. You act smug to people like me, but you don't even know the half of it.(http://oi59.tinypic.com/6hul8p.jpg)How is that in "Best"?
Because Chairwoman Pao is censoring anything critical of her.
Once again we see UP's own agenda trying to take sway.
I will just preface this by saying I am in fact 17 years old, I am white, and I do live in America. Do I think my problems are worse than that of the people in Ethiopia? Yes, yes I do. I can explain to you in detail. I am being banned constantly. They watch what I do, they read my private messages, and they probably snicker at the things I type, and you act like you know oppression? Those Ethiopians get hurt, sure, but the time is going to come when the reddit admins are going to ban any subreddit for disagreeing with them. Where men and women will not have their say any where. And for now, we have to pay gold for people to access their funny cat pictures (sheeple scum) who won't do any subreddit activism and will only get a cheap laugh, even go1dfish would find this shit unbelievable. You act smug to people like me, but you don't even know the half of it.(http://oi59.tinypic.com/6hul8p.jpg)How is that in "Best"?
Because Chairwoman Pao is censoring anything critical of her.
Getting banned from Reddit isn't at all on the same level as systematic human rights violations, sorry.
If I wanted free speech I would host my own website.
That wasn't fallacy, that was me mocking you for losing proportion of something.Once again we see UP's own agenda trying to take sway.
Well, if opposing authoritarian, thin-skinned liars is wrong, I don't want to be right.I will just preface this by saying I am in fact 17 years old, I am white, and I do live in America. Do I think my problems are worse than that of the people in Ethiopia? Yes, yes I do. I can explain to you in detail. I am being banned constantly. They watch what I do, they read my private messages, and they probably snicker at the things I type, and you act like you know oppression? Those Ethiopians get hurt, sure, but the time is going to come when the reddit admins are going to ban any subreddit for disagreeing with them. Where men and women will not have their say any where. And for now, we have to pay gold for people to access their funny cat pictures (sheeple scum) who won't do any subreddit activism and will only get a cheap laugh, even go1dfish would find this shit unbelievable. You act smug to people like me, but you don't even know the half of it.(http://oi59.tinypic.com/6hul8p.jpg)How is that in "Best"?
Because Chairwoman Pao is censoring anything critical of her.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallacy_of_relative_privation (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallacy_of_relative_privation)
sorry, mocking someone for losing proportion of something minor. I mean what's next, are we gonna see pictures of Ellen Pao as a nazi about to shoot snoo?Once again we see UP's own agenda trying to take sway.
Well, if opposing authoritarian, thin-skinned liars is wrong, I don't want to be right.I will just preface this by saying I am in fact 17 years old, I am white, and I do live in America. Do I think my problems are worse than that of the people in Ethiopia? Yes, yes I do. I can explain to you in detail. I am being banned constantly. They watch what I do, they read my private messages, and they probably snicker at the things I type, and you act like you know oppression? Those Ethiopians get hurt, sure, but the time is going to come when the reddit admins are going to ban any subreddit for disagreeing with them. Where men and women will not have their say any where. And for now, we have to pay gold for people to access their funny cat pictures (sheeple scum) who won't do any subreddit activism and will only get a cheap laugh, even go1dfish would find this shit unbelievable. You act smug to people like me, but you don't even know the half of it.(http://oi59.tinypic.com/6hul8p.jpg)How is that in "Best"?
Because Chairwoman Pao is censoring anything critical of her.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallacy_of_relative_privation (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallacy_of_relative_privation)
Getting banned from Reddit isn't at all on the same level as systematic human rights violations, sorry.
If I wanted free speech I would host my own website.
I love you to, Ravy :)
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Better a heart of blood than a heart of stone.
Better a heart of blood than a heart of stone.
dammit spuki, that's an awesome saying. wish i'd thought of it.
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Does his anti-abortion screed count as science or compassion?
You guys aren't really so stupid as to cherry-pick the happy noises coming out of the mouth of a militant creationist. Stop pretending you are.
Does his anti-abortion screed count as science or compassion?http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIIvpPGYjLs
You guys aren't really so stupid as to cherry-pick the happy noises coming out of the mouth of a militant creationist. Stop pretending you are.
Does his anti-abortion screed count as science or compassion?
You guys aren't really so stupid as to cherry-pick the happy noises coming out of the mouth of a militant creationist. Stop pretending you are.
Creationist? Catholic church teaches God-guided evolution. You've got a point about anti-abortion attitudes and it's just one of many harmful doctrines. Nothing prevents anyone from taking a nuanced position, though: admonish the church for its many flaws but also give it credit when they take steps to the right direction. Whether we like it or not the pope has huge influence on what a big portion of people on Earth pay attention to and I'll gladly take his support for any righteous cause.
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What makes this even better is the jab at Neo-Confederates.
I may be a NeoPagan but I do have Paradise & Inferno in my worldview. A number of faith traditions do and even the various reports of NDEs confirm it.
I may be a NeoPagan but I do have Paradise & Inferno in my worldview. A number of faith traditions do and even the various reports of NDEs confirm it.
You have depressingly low standards of evidence if you think NDEs confirm anything besides the human brain's capacity to hallucinate wildly before death.
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Save the Europe
Drown a Greek
a little explanation: the drowner is christine lagarde, president of the fmi, and ex-director of the medef, basically the french ceo union. not exactly well-liked, since she's cutthroat, and hates the poor so much she could be in a mel brooks movie it's taken to such extremes.Oh, and FMI = IMF. I didn't know that about Lagarde's background, thanks.
I think this tabloid cover qualifies as a cartoon.
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Same here. Without the explanation, I would've taken it at face value & considered it a "Worst" cartoon.If you know what IMF has done in the Greek debt negotiations you don't have to know her background. It's enough to see the IMF button on her shirt and her drowning a Greek.
In light of recent events
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Does his anti-abortion screed count as science or compassion?http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIIvpPGYjLs
You guys aren't really so stupid as to cherry-pick the happy noises coming out of the mouth of a militant creationist. Stop pretending you are.
http://www.newsweek.com/pope-franciss-remarks-evolution-are-not-controversial-among-roman-catholics-281115
You could make the claim that he believes in intelligent design, but he certainly accepts evolution and does not believe that the Earth is just a few thousand years old like the young Earth creationists do (and lets face it, whenever creationism is mentioned usually they are the ones people are talking about.)
Then again, I am kinda on the same line as the pope on this. Just because I am a christian and believe that God created the universe it does not mean that I have to disregard science. I believe that God set things in motion and had no need to fine tune things by making animals and people appear from thin air.
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In light of recent events
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What happened to the poor dino's ribs?
It's a spinosaur!(http://media.cagle.com/46/2015/07/01/165928_600.jpg)
What happened to the poor dino's ribs?
Budget cuts.
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Belongs in Awesome Protest Signs, but it's cool anyway.
Sounds to me like Greece staved off further bullshit that would have only concentrated wealth in the hands of the few.
Of course most economists would act like it's all doom and gloom because they make apologetic just-so stories for the whims of the wealthy elite.
Discounting the word of experts just because it doesn't gel with your politics? You remind me of a Global Warming denialist.
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I am certainly not an advocate for frequent and untried changes in laws and constitutions. I think moderate imperfections had better be borne with; because, when once known, we accomodate ourselves to them and find practical means of correcting their ill effects. But I know also that laws and institutions must go hand in hand with the progress of the human mind. As that becomes more developed, more enlightened, as new discoveries are made, new truths disclosed and manners and opinions change with the change of circumstances, institutions must advance also and keep pace with the times.
A man lecturing women on good and bad feminism is incredibly patronizing.(http://www.clipular.com/c/5219817901522944.png?k=Ve-VKNJuGPS8bdMMEdPyl-3ytEQ)
Just super saiyan.
I would love a sequel in which Same-Sex marriage is passed and the Ghost of Lady Liberty punches Scalia so hard that he ends up in a coma!
I hate stories with "karma houdinis".
Is there a way to write the artist? I would love a sequel where that happens.
"Dear Ruben. I demand a sequel where Scalia gets punched by Lady Liberty".
...or at least Justice Ginsburg....or Ginsburg, Sotomayor & Kagan in the form of a spoof of "Charlie's Angels".
A man lecturing women on good and bad feminism is incredibly patronizing.(http://www.clipular.com/c/5219817901522944.png?k=Ve-VKNJuGPS8bdMMEdPyl-3ytEQ)
Just super saiyan.
...I mean you have a point, but...
I would love a sequel in which Same-Sex marriage is passed and the Ghost of Lady Liberty punches Scalia so hard that he ends up in a coma!
I hate stories with "karma houdinis".
Is there a way to write the artist? I would love a sequel where that happens.
"Dear Ruben. I demand a sequel where Scalia gets punched by Lady Liberty".
...or at least Justice Ginsburg....or Ginsburg, Sotomayor & Kagan in the form of a spoof of "Charlie's Angels".
https://twitter.com/rubenbolling
The author is in fact a guy. This guy:Ohhhhh, now I get it.(click to show/hide)
The implications of that fact on his opinions on feminism are left as an exercise for the reader.
The author is in fact a guy. This guy:Ohhhhh, now I get it.(click to show/hide)
The implications of that fact on his opinions on feminism are left as an exercise for the reader.
Because the cartoonist is a guy it means that a) He is not a feminist. b) A guy telling how women/feminists should act is badwrong.The author is in fact a guy. This guy:Ohhhhh, now I get it.(click to show/hide)
The implications of that fact on his opinions on feminism are left as an exercise for the reader.
Can you explain? I don't get it.
Because the cartoonist is a guy it means that a) He is not a feminist. b) A guy telling how women/feminists should act is badwrong.The author is in fact a guy. This guy:Ohhhhh, now I get it.(click to show/hide)
The implications of that fact on his opinions on feminism are left as an exercise for the reader.
Can you explain? I don't get it.
Well, let's just say that the pathetic straw-feminist and the fact that UP thought it was a good political cartoon set off all my red flags. Men instructing feminists on how to behave properly comes off as patronizing and the straw feminist really didn't help.
Because the cartoonist is a guy it means that a) He is not a feminist. b) A guy telling how women/feminists should act is badwrong.The author is in fact a guy. This guy:Ohhhhh, now I get it.(click to show/hide)
The implications of that fact on his opinions on feminism are left as an exercise for the reader.
Can you explain? I don't get it.
Well, let's just say that the pathetic straw-feminist and the fact that UP thought it was a good political cartoon set off all my red flags. Men instructing feminists on how to behave properly comes off as patronizing and the straw feminist really didn't help.
Depends on the Radical Feminist, I guess. Transphobes can fuck right off, for instance.
Depends on the Radical Feminist, I guess. Transphobes can fuck right off, for instance.
True. TERFs are turds. ;D
Depends on the Radical Feminist, I guess. Transphobes can fuck right off, for instance.
True. TERFs are turds. ;D
I agree. And SWERFs are shit.
But we should be careful about generalizing radical feminists. Not all radfems are man-haters, and vice versa.
mad lib: obama's gigantic penis will DESTROY american trees.
mad lib: obama's gigantic penis will DESTROY american trees.
I'm going to enjoy this. ;D
Depends on the Radical Feminist, I guess. Transphobes can fuck right off, for instance.
True. TERFs are turds. ;D
I agree. And SWERFs are shit.
But we should be careful about generalizing radical feminists. Not all radfems are man-haters, and vice versa.
Depends on the Radical Feminist, I guess. Transphobes can fuck right off, for instance.
True. TERFs are turds. ;D
I agree. And SWERFs are shit.
But we should be careful about generalizing radical feminists. Not all radfems are man-haters, and vice versa.
What is a SWERF?
Depends on the Radical Feminist, I guess. Transphobes can fuck right off, for instance.
True. TERFs are turds. ;D
I agree. And SWERFs are shit.
But we should be careful about generalizing radical feminists. Not all radfems are man-haters, and vice versa.
What is a SWERF?
Sex worker-exclusive radical feminist.
Depends on the Radical Feminist, I guess. Transphobes can fuck right off, for instance.
True. TERFs are turds. ;D
I agree. And SWERFs are shit.
But we should be careful about generalizing radical feminists. Not all radfems are man-haters, and vice versa.
What is a SWERF?
Sex worker-exclusive radical feminist.
I don't know where I stand on that issue. I think both sides have a reasonable case.
But it is not necessarily demeaning. That has more to do with the cultural stigma than what is actually happening and if you believe that people are allowed to choose who they have sex with there is nothing wrong with prostitution (unless minors are involved or someone has been forced into becoming a prostitute but those can be dealt with more ease if sex trade is not illegal.)
But it is not necessarily demeaning. That has more to do with the cultural stigma than what is actually happening and if you believe that people are allowed to choose who they have sex with there is nothing wrong with prostitution (unless minors are involved or someone has been forced into becoming a prostitute but those can be dealt with more ease if sex trade is not illegal.)
Yes, there is a counter-case. I'm not sure, as I said, which argument I accept. I think both have merit.
Obviously I'd not want to outright BAN prostitution, because that just wouldn't work from an implementation perspective. But what should be the objective of policy - to make prostitution a more 'democratic' job, for lack of a better word - or to discourage it as much as possible, while avoiding the inevitable unintended consequences of banning?
But it is not necessarily demeaning. That has more to do with the cultural stigma than what is actually happening and if you believe that people are allowed to choose who they have sex with there is nothing wrong with prostitution (unless minors are involved or someone has been forced into becoming a prostitute but those can be dealt with more ease if sex trade is not illegal.)
Yes, there is a counter-case. I'm not sure, as I said, which argument I accept. I think both have merit.
Obviously I'd not want to outright BAN prostitution, because that just wouldn't work from an implementation perspective. But what should be the objective of policy - to make prostitution a more 'democratic' job, for lack of a better word - or to discourage it as much as possible, while avoiding the inevitable unintended consequences of banning?
Why do you even need an objective?
Make it safe and let grown-ups decide for themselves what to do with it.
And do you also ban male prostitution?
I do not accept that prostitution is fundamentally degrading. In fact, I would go so far as to say the only reason we perceive it as such is due to the pervasive influence of Judeo-Christian religion on our societal values and taboos.
But that's just, like, my opinion, man.
And do you also ban male prostitution?
That's the thing, right - bans 100% will not work and everyone knows it, so it becomes a problem of implementation. How do you discourage and gradually eradicate prostitution without driving it underground and turning all the prostitutes into sex slaves?
The Scandinavian model is okay I guess? Not sure how effective it's been but that's the sort of thing you'd be looking at.
But if you don't accept that prostitution is fundamentally degrading - and that's totally the thing I don't know if I agree with or not - then there's no need. It's super easy - you just legalise it completely, regulate like any business and encourage some sick worker's cooperatives or unionisation.
Current, illegal prostitution is very degrading, but that's not because of the practice itself, but because of abusive pimps who keep their prostitutes in line with a combination of hopelessness and fear that, should they ever go to the authorities, that they'd simply be arrested instead of have their abuse investigated. Ask women at places like the Bunny Ranch in Nevada if they feel exploited or degraded. They work in an environment, and an area, where prostitution is legal. They're kept clean (via regular STD screenings and mandatory condom use), safe (from what I've gathered, these places have very strict security), happy. The practice is only ever degrading when its kept illegal, and even then, its due to a third party. You seem to forget, Fred, that women who sell themselves at places like the Bunny Ranch do so entirely by choice. If we deny people the ability to sell what they want (within reason), up to and including their bodies, then we deny them autonomy. We deny them the ability to decide for themselves, as consenting, informed adults, what they do with their bodies. If they make a choice that, later on, turns out to be stupid, then it is not our place as a society to punish them, but to help them. The natural consequences are punishment enough.
Current, illegal prostitution is very degrading, but that's not because of the practice itself, but because of abusive pimps who keep their prostitutes in line with a combination of hopelessness and fear that, should they ever go to the authorities, that they'd simply be arrested instead of have their abuse investigated. Ask women at places like the Bunny Ranch in Nevada if they feel exploited or degraded. They work in an environment, and an area, where prostitution is legal. They're kept clean (via regular STD screenings and mandatory condom use), safe (from what I've gathered, these places have very strict security), happy. The practice is only ever degrading when its kept illegal, and even then, its due to a third party. You seem to forget, Fred, that women who sell themselves at places like the Bunny Ranch do so entirely by choice. If we deny people the ability to sell what they want (within reason), up to and including their bodies, then we deny them autonomy. We deny them the ability to decide for themselves, as consenting, informed adults, what they do with their bodies. If they make a choice that, later on, turns out to be stupid, then it is not our place as a society to punish them, but to help them. The natural consequences are punishment enough.
Current, illegal prostitution is very degrading, but that's not because of the practice itself, but because of abusive pimps who keep their prostitutes in line with a combination of hopelessness and fear that, should they ever go to the authorities, that they'd simply be arrested instead of have their abuse investigated. Ask women at places like the Bunny Ranch in Nevada if they feel exploited or degraded. They work in an environment, and an area, where prostitution is legal. They're kept clean (via regular STD screenings and mandatory condom use), safe (from what I've gathered, these places have very strict security), happy. The practice is only ever degrading when its kept illegal, and even then, its due to a third party. You seem to forget, Fred, that women who sell themselves at places like the Bunny Ranch do so entirely by choice. If we deny people the ability to sell what they want (within reason), up to and including their bodies, then we deny them autonomy. We deny them the ability to decide for themselves, as consenting, informed adults, what they do with their bodies. If they make a choice that, later on, turns out to be stupid, then it is not our place as a society to punish them, but to help them. The natural consequences are punishment enough.
If you accept that prostitution isn't part of the patriarchy, that's the way to go, yeah.
But it is not necessarily demeaning. That has more to do with the cultural stigma than what is actually happening and if you believe that people are allowed to choose who they have sex with there is nothing wrong with prostitution (unless minors are involved or someone has been forced into becoming a prostitute but those can be dealt with more ease if sex trade is not illegal.)
Yes, there is a counter-case. I'm not sure, as I said, which argument I accept. I think both have merit.
Obviously I'd not want to outright BAN prostitution, because that just wouldn't work from an implementation perspective. But what should be the objective of policy - to make prostitution a more 'democratic' job, for lack of a better word - or to discourage it as much as possible, while avoiding the inevitable unintended consequences of banning?
Why do you even need an objective?
Make it safe and let grown-ups decide for themselves what to do with it.
Well, if you accept that prostitution and the sale of womens' bodies is a fundamental part of the patriarchy than yeah!
Edit: The problem with just leaving it up to employers and employees is that it's the freedom of the market - you're free to sell your body or to starve to death. There is always an element of compulsion. That's why markets work.
That's a nice link, but it tells me nothing about why you believe that the act of selling sexual favors for goods and services is inherently patriarchal. Actually, I'd go so far as to say it doesn't really tell me much at all.
Okay, so I didn't want to get into this conversation cause it seemed to...unstable, but now I'm going to weigh in. In my opinion I think prostitution should be legal and regulated. Look people are gonna sell their bodies regardless if it's legal or not the best thing we can do is make it so that women and men who do can be protected and the profession can be regulated. Hell I'll use an example that we all agree with; abortion.
When abortion was illegal people still did it but they did it in unsafe and often dangerous environments which often resulted in deaths of those seeking an abortion, but now that it's not only legal but regulated and safe we have basically no deaths from it, the same can be applied with prostitution so long as it's illegal it's a dangerous profession that leads to unnecessary deaths via either STI's, overzealous pimps or clients who want to kill "whores", people who want to sell their bodies of their own volition deserve to do it in a safe and regulated place where they don't run the risk of dying.
That's a nice link, but it tells me nothing about why you believe that the act of selling sexual favors for goods and services is inherently patriarchal. Actually, I'd go so far as to say it doesn't really tell me much at all.
I don't necessarily believe that prostitution is always part of the patriarchy. Some people do. I don't disagree. I think there's a reasonable case that honest people can disagree about.
I don't think the answer is yet known, and I think those who claim it is are wrong.
Edit: Let me put it this way. There are questions that have a clear answer. 1+1 is 2. Universal health insurance is a necessity. Urban highways are bad. Feminism is good. If you don't accept the right answer you're a hack, and deserve derision.
This is not one of those questions.
I don't think there's any real debate about those issues.You don't.
I don't think there's any real debate about those issues.You don't.
I don't think there's any real debate about those issues.You don't.
I kinda want to know where Fred lives if he hasn't seen any debate or disagreements about universal healthcare. Actually, I want to know how he claims that there is no debate on feminism. Because this very forum has had several threads on which feminism has been debated.
And now you are shifting goalposts. The fact that some of those arguments have opponents that are hacks does not mean that the debate does not exist. AND there are proper debates on those as well. For example, there are SWERFs and TWERFs who consider themselves feminists despite excluding some women. Do they represent feminism (is saying that they aren't "proper" feminists a no true scotsman fallacy?) There are feminists who are clearly misandrists even though other say that feminism is/should be for men as well. Even feminists disagree on feminism so clearly there is debate on this matter.I don't think there's any real debate about those issues.You don't.
I kinda want to know where Fred lives if he hasn't seen any debate or disagreements about universal healthcare. Actually, I want to know how he claims that there is no debate on feminism. Because this very forum has had several threads on which feminism has been debated.
Obviously there is corruption and hackery everywhere. But there's no serious, legitimate dispute about these things.
And now you are shifting goalposts. The fact that some of those arguments have opponents that are hacks does not mean that the debate does not exist. AND there are proper debates on those as well. For example, there are SWERFs and TWERFs who consider themselves feminists despite excluding some women. Do they represent feminism (is saying that they aren't "proper" feminists a no true scotsman fallacy?) There are feminists who are clearly misandrists even though other say that feminism is/should be for men as well. Even feminists disagree on feminism so clearly there is debate on this matter.I don't think there's any real debate about those issues.You don't.
I kinda want to know where Fred lives if he hasn't seen any debate or disagreements about universal healthcare. Actually, I want to know how he claims that there is no debate on feminism. Because this very forum has had several threads on which feminism has been debated.
Obviously there is corruption and hackery everywhere. But there's no serious, legitimate dispute about these things.
EDIT: Actually, is that even shifting goalposts? How can he claim that the debate does not exist at all by doing an ad hominem attack against those who disagree with him?
Didn't know Merle Dixon went on to become a football referee. Hm.
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(http://oi61.tinypic.com/w98v29.jpg)GOD DAMMIT! YOU CAN BE UPSET OVER MORE THAN ONE THING AT A TIME! YOU CAN ALSO HAVE SYMPATHY FOR MORE THAN ONE THING AT THE SAME TIME!
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A Single Death is a Tragedy; a Million Deaths is a Statistic
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Sanders kinda looks like an anime in that cartoon. Dramatically tossing a match while intense music plays and an invisible wind ruffles his hair.
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Because D&D alignments make everything better.
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The best part is Jesus's facepalm.
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The last Sanders one had me lmao, because the image of him beating the shit out of someone with cane popped into my head.
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That one wins at least this page of the thread XD.
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More from the KKK-gate. (Actually I am not sure what it will be called. "something-gate" isn't used for scandals in Finland.)
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"City council member from the Finns, Martti Mäkelä lost his way and ended up in a photo with the Ku Klux Klan."
This is a reference to another politician from the Finns who "accidentally" posed in a photo with a group of neo-nazis called SVL (Liberation front of Finland.). Apparently he was only supposed to celebrate the most famous political assassination in the history of Finland with one group of ultra-nationalist, the Suomen Sisu (Sisu of Finland. ...Yeah, that wasn't much of a translation) but the other group, which is more violent, has been involved in organized attacks on people they don't like and openly declares to be a national socialist organization "simply happened to be there by coincidence."
And now, once again, a politician from the Finns accidentally KKK.
Seeing and reading about these guys just gives me chills. On a lighter mocking note, dude that Dunce hat is all wrong. Too fussy and medieval looking. Use a wrinkled polyester pillow case if you want that authentic, hickory-smoked Klan look.
Seeing and reading about these guys just gives me chills. On a lighter mocking note, dude that Dunce hat is all wrong. Too fussy and medieval looking. Use a wrinkled polyester pillow case if you want that authentic, hickory-smoked Klan look.
And ironically, it looks like the Capirote, a hood used by devout Spanish Catholics.
A bunch of supposed Finnish nationalists flat out copying the biggest assholes in America.
That's really rather pathetic when you stop and think about it.
And they can't even do the cosplay right, yeah?
I don't think there is an official branch of KKK here. The guy is probably just an individual fanboy/imitator.
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It's not a conspiracy. It's about ethics in international journalism.
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It's not a conspiracy. It's about ethics in international journalism.
Your trolling attempts are really more pathetic than irritating.
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It's not a conspiracy. It's about ethics in international journalism.
Your trolling attempts are really more pathetic than irritating.
It is about ethics in trolling attempts.
Now call me crazy, but am I the only one here that thinks the face on the mask looks like Ron Paul??
Now call me crazy, but am I the only one here that thinks the face on the mask looks like Ron Paul??
That's what I figured too. They got it from this logo:
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The immates are running the asylum.
Ironbite-let's see if it keeps them in power.
The immates are running the asylum.
Ironbite-let's see if it keeps them in power.
Well, everything is so gerrymandered in their favor that their 47.6% of the House popular vote in 2012 was good for 53.8% of House seats. 1.5 million more people voted for Democratic House candidates than for Republicans, but the GOP ended with a 234 - 201 majority.
So I'm going to go with they're going to hold the House in 2016 pretty much no matter what they do, and the Democrats have little hope in that chamber until after lines are redrawn after the 2020 census. Of course, the state legislature lines are overwhelmingly gerrymandered in favor of Republicans as well, so it will be difficult to restore balance even then, amd if a Democraric President is elected next year, the Republicans will do well in 2020 (as the opposition paety alwas does in thw midterms) amd theyll be able to redraw the lInes evwn more strongly in theor favor. If there is 1 thing that Republicans are good at, it's rewriting the rules of democracy in their favor, generally in ways that are less democratic (voter id laws, shorter polling hours, fewer polling stations, etc)
Nah! 2016 is going to be the Dems' year!
The immates are running the asylum.
Ironbite-let's see if it keeps them in power.
Well, everything is so gerrymandered in their favor that their 47.6% of the House popular vote in 2012 was good for 53.8% of House seats. 1.5 million more people voted for Democratic House candidates than for Republicans, but the GOP ended with a 234 - 201 majority.
So I'm going to go with they're going to hold the House in 2016 pretty much no matter what they do, and the Democrats have little hope in that chamber until after lines are redrawn after the 2020 census. Of course, the state legislature lines are overwhelmingly gerrymandered in favor of Republicans as well, so it will be difficult to restore balance even then, amd if a Democraric President is elected next year, the Republicans will do well in 2020 (as the opposition paety alwas does in thw midterms) amd theyll be able to redraw the lInes evwn more strongly in theor favor. If there is 1 thing that Republicans are good at, it's rewriting the rules of democracy in their favor, generally in ways that are less democratic (voter id laws, shorter polling hours, fewer polling stations, etc)
Um, 2020 is a presidential election year. 2018 and 2022 are the midterm years.
But yeah, way too many states are gerrymandered all to hell.
Nah! 2016 is going to be the Dems' year!
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Who is the bloke next to Bill?
tricorn, teabags, and frothing at the mouth at the idea of fragging their own? that's a great caricature!
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(http://oi60.tinypic.com/16ld3io.jpg)I've decided to take Art's advice here and say: if you can't apply your accusations of logical fallacies consistently then don't apply them at all.
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As someone who once had a tapeworm, f*** you.
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As someone who once had a tapeworm, f*** you.
I think whoever did this was being tongue in cheek (if you'll forgive the turn of phrase).
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I thought it was a pit bull, to protest BSL?
I can't get over the fact that the artist felt the need to render the dog's cock and balls.
I can't get over the fact that the artist felt the need to render the dog's cock and balls.
Ditto. We can get the message across without the genitalia.
That's a hilarious cartoon. Very political. Not at all a strawman. Also that girls tits and underwear are totally necessary to get the point across.
That's a hilarious cartoon. Very political. Not at all a strawman. Also that girls tits and underwear are totally necessary to get the point across.
There are idiots who defend FGM on the grounds that "it's their culture." When you consider that, this doesn't seem too much like a stretch.
That's a hilarious cartoon. Very political. Not at all a strawman. Also that girls tits and underwear are totally necessary to get the point across.
There are idiots who defend FGM on the grounds that "it's their culture." When you consider that, this doesn't seem too much like a stretch.
That's a hilarious cartoon. Very political. Not at all a strawman. Also that girls tits and underwear are totally necessary to get the point across.
There are idiots who defend FGM on the grounds that "it's their culture." When you consider that, this doesn't seem too much like a stretch.
That's not a non-sequitur either. When you consider that jews won't eat shellfish but muslims will and that they both won't eat pork, this doesn't seem like too much of a stretch.
dave, that's jago dibuja's "living with hipster girl and gamer girl". it has to be read with a grain of salt, since it's satire. right down to the physique of hipster girl, it's a criticism. doesn't belong here, however. more in the funny pictures thread.
what's fgm? female genital mutilation? flying geriatric monster? freud gaining mass?
also, what's the link between the two?
Was it pork in general or the heavily-processed crap we eat, nowadays?
dave, that's jago dibuja's "living with hipster girl and gamer girl". it has to be read with a grain of salt, since it's satire. right down to the physique of hipster girl, it's a criticism. doesn't belong here, however. more in the funny pictures thread.
what's fgm? female genital mutilation? flying geriatric monster? freud gaining mass?
also, what's the link between the two?
The first one. And it's a more extreme example of the same basic principle: people who call themselves "feminists" but are willing to overlook grossly misogynistic acts by "non-whites" (I put that term in quotes because their definition of "white" is rarely consistent), or at least feel conflicted about calling them out in those cases.
dave, that's jago dibuja's "living with hipster girl and gamer girl". it has to be read with a grain of salt, since it's satire. right down to the physique of hipster girl, it's a criticism. doesn't belong here, however. more in the funny pictures thread.
what's fgm? female genital mutilation? flying geriatric monster? freud gaining mass?
also, what's the link between the two?
The first one. And it's a more extreme example of the same basic principle: people who call themselves "feminists" but are willing to overlook grossly misogynistic acts by "non-whites" (I put that term in quotes because their definition of "white" is rarely consistent), or at least feel conflicted about calling them out in those cases.
Who are these feminists.
The way this film handles female circumcision may be the most bothersome aspect of all. Female Genital Mutilation, or F.G.M. for short, is the ritualistic removal of the female’s genitals, varying slightly from one ethnic group to the next, but all involve the cutting of a young girl’s privates to indicate her transition into womanhood. Mostly practiced in African countries, but existing in different forms all throughout the world, the age of the girls involved ranges anywhere from days after birth to well into their teenage years. Whether or not this practice is morally sound is and has been up for debate for several years, with many nations coming out against it, and many active countries defending their right to perform certain rituals as dictated by their culture.
However, without any prior knowledge on the subject, one watching The Green Inferno would assume that there is only one side to the argument, as it only supports the perception that this activity is immoral. Since the film attacks the topic from a sociological perspective, it should offer up both sides of the debate. For instance, one counterpoint that many in favor of F.G.M. bring up is the comparison to male circumcision; an event that is considered normal by society’s standards in many first world countries. There’s also the argument that many of the countries that use unsafe blades to carry out the act simply don’t have access to proper medical centers that would help safely conduct these events. However, the discussion on female circumcision executed by The Green Inferno fails to provide any real depth, and reveals a lack of research, making the story feel as detached and shallow as its characters.
It isn't.
"Strong feminist leanings" and "Australia's largest feminist website" are two different things, UP. Leave the goalposts alone.It isn't.
Um, yes it is. Or at least it has strong feminist leanings.
"Strong feminist leanings" and "Australia's largest feminist website" are two different things, UP. Leave the goalposts alone.It isn't.
Um, yes it is. Or at least it has strong feminist leanings.
By whom? The Daily Life? Another website? Someone you know? Someone that popped into your life only to say "The Daily Life is Australia's largest feminist website!" before disappearing forever?"Strong feminist leanings" and "Australia's largest feminist website" are two different things, UP. Leave the goalposts alone.It isn't.
Um, yes it is. Or at least it has strong feminist leanings.
Well, that's how it was described to me. Maybe I was wrong.
By whom? The Daily Life? Another website? Someone you know? Someone that popped into your life only to say "The Daily Life is Australia's largest feminist website!" before disappearing forever?"Strong feminist leanings" and "Australia's largest feminist website" are two different things, UP. Leave the goalposts alone.It isn't.
Um, yes it is. Or at least it has strong feminist leanings.
Well, that's how it was described to me. Maybe I was wrong.
Care to elaborate?By whom? The Daily Life? Another website? Someone you know? Someone that popped into your life only to say "The Daily Life is Australia's largest feminist website!" before disappearing forever?"Strong feminist leanings" and "Australia's largest feminist website" are two different things, UP. Leave the goalposts alone.It isn't.
Um, yes it is. Or at least it has strong feminist leanings.
Well, that's how it was described to me. Maybe I was wrong.
A friend of mine.
Look, gaize! Boobies!
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Look, gaize! Boobies!
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I am Groot?
With the boobies wouldn't this technically be a straw trans-man?
With the boobies wouldn't this technically be a straw trans-man?
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How is that you have so much strength in that arm?
QuoteHow is that you have so much strength in that arm?
How can he stand like that while shifting his center of mass so far forward?
Here I am, questioning webcomic physics. Somebody help.
But "greenshirt's" right arm is really strong:
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Dammit, part of it was missing.(https://scontent-arn2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xft1/v/t1.0-9/12250030_10153716072996800_7980762994990591452_n.jpg?oh=5e7d99920052985517e6528155dc4f11&oe=56F168D5)
Context?
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Context?
Mike Huckabee on the threat of Syrian refugees: "We need to wake up and smell the falafel." http://on.cc.com/1QuHk7l
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Context?
You need context for Bill'O the Clown getting skewered on the Daily Show?
I was thinking:
Barely political. Doesn't really make any point and certainly no new poit
Not overly funny and very heavy reliance on cliche that has been around for 20 years and flogged to death.
Minimises genuine problems with indigenous americans and seeks to elide the cause for those problems by belittling them.
Reasonably good drawing.
Overall I would say 3/10
I keep reading "microaggressions" as "microtransactions" for some reason.
I was thinking:
Barely political. Doesn't really make any point and certainly no new poit
Not overly funny and very heavy reliance on cliche that has been around for 20 years and flogged to death.
Minimises genuine problems with indigenous americans and seeks to elide the cause for those problems by belittling them.
Reasonably good drawing.
Overall I would say 3/10
You just said what I was thinking, but what I am too intoxicated to put into coherent words. You are truly a benevolent lord cracker.
That's because you are using a different definition Eurocentrism. It is possible that this straw-person of a SJW is using "Euro" to refer to ethnicity rather than location.
...Or the artist just made wordsalad with words that Tumblrites use when they complain about things.
The latter is probably more likely.
I hear a point in the chick's remark, but "guys" as gender-neutral is getting pretty standard now, especially when it's used in "you guys" --- the plural form of "you".
English speakers being all "oh no we contracted all forms of the second person pronoun into one and now we need to make distinctions" is fascinating to me.
I hear a point in the chick's remark, but "guys" as gender-neutral is getting pretty standard now, especially when it's used in "you guys" --- the plural form of "you".
Bah. Clearly the plural form of you is y'all.
English speakers being all "oh no we contracted all forms of the second person pronoun into one and now we need to make distinctions" is fascinating to me.
I honestly wish English had a modern "usted" equivalent, because I've felt the need for it several times when speaking to people like professors and bosses.
I honestly wish English had a modern "usted" equivalent, because I've felt the need for it several times when speaking to people like professors and bosses.
It trades against the problem that you'd end up with people where formality standards are unclear and you don't know which to use. I've had professors who objected to overly-formal address, made them feel old.
I'd suggest bringing back 'thou', except given current cultural context it's going to sound more formal than 'you' and not less.
Eh, I learned "Sie" in German without much trouble. But, I am Southern. The type of Southern where I would get slapped across the face if I didn't refer to someone as "Mr.," "Ms.," "Sir," or "Ma'am." Probably helped me recognize the formal parts of language a bit easier.
Though, making it a duty would potentially help with the issue of massive gerrymandering going on in the US. Maybe not vote for everything, but something more along the lines of "you must vote in at least one formal election every 4 years." Might not be the best solution, but...there's only so much you can do to prevent voter apathy.
Oh hell yeah, we could stop the whole voter cockblocking that bitches are trying to use to run this country even further into the fucking ground. The rabid part of me just want to round up the bastards and drop them into the mantle, but that'd be...counterproductive. Besides, someone would take their place. Attitudes must be changed and, as appealing as it may be, violence typically gets exactly the opposite of what you want.
Eh, its an accurate enough euphemism.
Eh, I learned "Sie" in German without much trouble. But, I am Southern. The type of Southern where I would get slapped across the face if I didn't refer to someone as "Mr.," "Ms.," "Sir," or "Ma'am." Probably helped me recognize the formal parts of language a bit easier.
You're not that Southern.
Eh, its an accurate enough euphemism.
Isn't a euphemism supposed to be milder than the thing it's standing in for?
Eh, its an accurate enough euphemism.
Isn't a euphemism supposed to be milder than the thing it's standing in for?
Preventing someone from getting laid is tamer than disenfranchisement, at least I think so.
Oh hell yeah, we could stop the whole voter cockblocking that bitches are trying to use to run this country even further into the fucking ground. The rabid part of me just want to round up the bastards and drop them into the mantle, but that'd be...counterproductive. Besides, someone would take their place. Attitudes must be changed and, as appealing as it may be, violence typically gets exactly the opposite of what you want.
Here is what I wrote about Benghazi three years, six congressional investigations and $30 million ago:
"The Fox News/GOP public garment-rending over Benghazi would be more convicing if they had ever shown concern for the death and destruction their policies caused in the Mideast. Benghazi is pure, cynical political calculation. They take their cue from Stalin, who said one death is a tragedy, the death of millions is a statistic."
Mic drop.
Oh hell yeah, we could stop the whole voter cockblocking that bitches are trying to use to run this country even further into the fucking ground. The rabid part of me just want to round up the bastards and drop them into the mantle, but that'd be...counterproductive. Besides, someone would take their place. Attitudes must be changed and, as appealing as it may be, violence typically gets exactly the opposite of what you want.
It doesn't help when some states (cough Florida cough) go out of their way to impede getting registered and even reducing voting locations so people either have to travel farther or wait in HUGE lines (Rick Scott tried that in 2012; luckily it still didn't help the GOP).
Eh, its an accurate enough euphemism.
Isn't a euphemism supposed to be milder than the thing it's standing in for?
Preventing someone from getting laid is tamer than disenfranchisement, at least I think so.
Also, not sure if that's a hard-and-fast rule or just a general guideline because the English language is the drunken offspring of German and Latin.
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Wouldn't that be a pretty solid argument in favour of completely closing the border?
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When has any protester ever made that claim?
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When has any protester ever made that claim?
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and ill say it again: a company making the decision not to ship/localize their game to a certain region isnt censorship. they just dont want to send it there.
which is quite different from the censorship of a lesbian relationship by corporate authority
Option 3: Localizing Steven Universe in a way that erases two woman-looking beings being intimate is homophobic.
Related:Quote from: tumblr user ap0calypticassass1nand ill say it again: a company making the decision not to ship/localize their game to a certain region isnt censorship. they just dont want to send it there.
which is quite different from the censorship of a lesbian relationship by corporate authority
Option 3: Localizing Steven Universe in a way that erases two woman-looking beings being intimate is homophobic.
Related:Quote from: tumblr user ap0calypticassass1nand ill say it again: a company making the decision not to ship/localize their game to a certain region isnt censorship. they just dont want to send it there.
which is quite different from the censorship of a lesbian relationship by corporate authority
I'm sorry, all I see is "Double standard double standard double standard."
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Wrong thread.
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Wrong thread.
Care to elaborate?
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Wrong thread.
Care to elaborate?
Because that's not why most people are against political correctness.
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Wrong thread.
Care to elaborate?
Because that's not why most people are against political correctness.
Care to elaborate further? Perhaps follow that statement up with why you think they are against political correctness?
Really, I'm interested to see how you spin this. Bonus points for mentioning cultural Marxism.
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Wrong thread.
Care to elaborate?
Because that's not why most people are against political correctness.
Care to elaborate further? Perhaps follow that statement up with why you think they are against political correctness?
Really, I'm interested to see how you spin this. Bonus points for mentioning cultural Marxism.
Because it makes it harder to talk about legitimate issues, for one thing.
Let's be honest, the dude in the Wondermark comic is a strawman. People who oppose PC culture are not doing it because they want to physically trample on the feet of others.
Some of the people who oppose PC culture are incredible assholes but instead of using those real people or the real claims they make the comic made fun of them by making them even more ridiculous.
So basically, comic makes a good point but uses a strawman as the opposite instead of the real claims.
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Wow. Trump actually performed this political cartoon live. That is exactly what he said on site, as she was being removed by security guards.
Wow. Trump actually performed this political cartoon live. That is exactly what he said on site, as she was being removed by security guards.
YouTube link?
At least with that combination one would hope it would be too ridiculous to vote for.
Man even if it's just a picture of him I want to punch his stupid face.
The second most punchable face in America (Ted Cruz is still first).
Man even if it's just a picture of him I want to punch his stupid face.
That's nothing to be ashamed of. It just means you're human.
In two minds about this one, while I agree with the sentiment the drawing is a bit rubbish.
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I also heard, oddly enough, that Ruth Bader Ginsburg was a friend of Scalia, and I really don't get the friendship thing there.
Despite our disagreements on politics, I found Scalia's remarks on this bizarre golf case that (somehow) made its way to the Supreme Court to be completely hilarious and sassy.
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Yeah, screw privacy!
Yeah, screw privacy!
That's... really not what I got from this.
The way I see it... The cartoonist believes that all Muslims are evil and that the "lone terrorist" thingy is just PC bullshit to cover the fact that every single individual Muslim should be considered an enemy. Then the FBI would like to protect USA from these enemies but Apple (and the traitorous justice system) is stopping them and only the supreme court could order them to let FBI spy on people (more than they already do) but without Scalia the only way to fulfill this plan is to stop Obama from picking a judge (and apparently he also needs to be stopped from releasing the prisoners in Guantanamo bay.)
Note that the only time a Muslim isn't shown to be an evil terrorist in the comic is the panel with the refugees BUT the next to panels show ISIS recruiter and a Muslim who has entered USA and is a terrorist. The kindest conclusion from this is that every refugee should be considered a potential terrorist and the only way to prevent such terrorist from entering among the innocent refugees is to spy on their phones (which Apple is trying to stop from happening.)
I didn't see it like that. The Gitmo prisoner isn't really portrayed in a negative light, and Apples privacy concerns are represented by the Statue of Liberty.
I didn't see it like that. The Gitmo prisoner isn't really portrayed in a negative light, and Apples privacy concerns are represented by the Statue of Liberty.
Did you even look at the comic? The GITMO prisoner has the same "crazy eyes" as the lone gunman few panels later and he is grimacing.
In my personal experience, the phrase "the fix is in" carries negative connotations. Using that to refer to keeping the Gov't from gaining access to all of the phones implies they are pro phone-access.
I didn't see it like that. The Gitmo prisoner isn't really portrayed in a negative light, and Apples privacy concerns are represented by the Statue of Liberty.
Did you even look at the comic? The GITMO prisoner has the same "crazy eyes" as the lone gunman few panels later and he is grimacing.
Maybe he's just angry at being locked up without charge or trial.
Is their couch having sex with that woman? Her posture and demeanor appear to suggest it.(click to show/hide)
I'd have shrunk this, but I was afraid some of the text might've been illegible.
Is their couch having sex with that woman? Her posture and demeanor appear to suggest it.(click to show/hide)
I'd have shrunk this, but I was afraid some of the text might've been illegible.
Let's see if I can manage this on my phone...(click to show/hide)
Let's see if I can manage this on my phone...(click to show/hide)
Shift all of those way to the right and it'd be more accurate.
-snip-Is there a joke here? This isn't even one of those "People who I disagree with are dum." cartoons, like what are the girls doing wrong?
I think it's about some quotes that were made by pro-hillary feminists that young women are pro sanders because they just want to meet boys.
"They’re going to get more activist as they grow older. And when you’re younger, you think: ‘Where are the boys? The boys are with Bernie.’" - Gloria Steinem
Because he caused so much controversy the last time, here's another Horsey(click to show/hide)
Edit: and if you can get past the paywall here is what the author said about the Hillary Cartoon: http://www.latimes.com/opinion/topoftheticket/la-na-tt-hillary-losing-young-women-20160210-story.html (http://www.latimes.com/opinion/topoftheticket/la-na-tt-hillary-losing-young-women-20160210-story.html)
It's kinda ridiculous empty homes outnumber the homeless. I mean we wouldn't have to power them or anything, just a shelter would probably drastically reduce mortality of the homeless.
The current housing system is ridiculous.
"When I look at myself in the first grade and I look at myself now, I'm basically the same. The temperament is not that different" - Donald Trump
Citation that he said that or he was in first grade?
Donald Trump's temper-tantrum tactics have been explained by the man himself. The frontrunner for the Republican presidential nomination admitted to his biographer that, "When I look at myself in the first grade and I look at myself now, I’m basically the same. The temperament is not that different."
"When I look at myself in the first grade and I look at myself now, I'm basically the same. The temperament is not that different" - Donald Trump
Citation needed.
"When I look at myself in the first grade and I look at myself now, I'm basically the same. The temperament is not that different" - Donald Trump
Citation needed.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvzoaUmyUFg
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Rosa Parks sat so Martin Luther could walk
Martin Luther walked so Barack Obama could run
Barack Obama ran so all the children could fly
So I'mma spread my wings, you can meet me in the sky
I know you don't like her, but that comic is plain wrong as it lampoons the very real effect that Obama's presidency had for African Americans and that a potential Clinton presidency would have women in this country.
The twist does make it a non-political cartoon, though, unless you take the twist seriously in which case it goes to the other thread.
So Dakota Bob can shitpost without repercussion in GTPSI but I can't do the same here?
So Dakota Bob can shitpost without repercussion in GTPSI but I can't do the same here?
Sort of a cartoon, Billy West has been reading Donald Trump quotes in his Zapp Brannigan voice
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58yVQjILers
This is classic. How do the crime statistics by race compare to the incarceration statistics? How many people that are incarcerated here would be killed for the same crime in a different country? How much of these stats are for major vs. minor offenses and how long are these sentences? 90 days hard time is a lot different than 20 to life, but all that detail gets conflated in a big scary number.
Half -truths like this cartoon lack key context that leave a lot of room for people to draw their own half-baked conclusions. That's probably why they're employed as political propaganda.
What's the point of smashing avocado if you don't either put it on nachos or turn it into guacamole? That's...just a waste. Good for you, but a waste.
It's hard to say. Cruz is arguably just as dangerous as Trump. The difference is that the whole world except his supporters know that Trump is a buffoon. Cruz is dangerous and, like Nixon, cunning.
The second Pence does something that blows up in Trump's face, he fires him. Or tries to anyway.
The second Pence does something that blows up in Trump's face, he fires him. Or tries to anyway.
We can but hope.
Unfortunately Trump appointed Mnuchin, an ex-Goldman Sachs executive, as Secretary of Treasury. More ominously, Mnuchin once partnered with Soros. I would rather have seen Ron Paul become Treasury Secretary, but perhaps Trump wants a few insiders in his cabinet in order to better deal with the powers that be. Trump said Mnuchin made some ‘amazing deals.’ Fine—as long as he’s willing to deal We The People in this time.
Maybe Trump wants such insiders because they know where the bodies are buried. That way he can better expose them. Can Mnuchin help bring back Glass Steagall and end the Big Club’s stranglehold on us? It remains to be seen, but if Trump continues to dine with Romney and others from the Big Club—and then does does their bidding, his feet will need to be held to the fire. Right now we can only hope that he is playing them off against one another.
Posting this in Best rather than Worst, because of the schadenfreude. Garrison is desperately trying to convince himself that Trump hasn't sold out.QuoteUnfortunately Trump appointed Mnuchin, an ex-Goldman Sachs executive, as Secretary of Treasury. More ominously, Mnuchin once partnered with Soros. I would rather have seen Ron Paul become Treasury Secretary, but perhaps Trump wants a few insiders in his cabinet in order to better deal with the powers that be. Trump said Mnuchin made some ‘amazing deals.’ Fine—as long as he’s willing to deal We The People in this time.
Maybe Trump wants such insiders because they know where the bodies are buried. That way he can better expose them. Can Mnuchin help bring back Glass Steagall and end the Big Club’s stranglehold on us? It remains to be seen, but if Trump continues to dine with Romney and others from the Big Club—and then does does their bidding, his feet will need to be held to the fire. Right now we can only hope that he is playing them off against one another.
And the accompanying cartoon:
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Oh, and he's now a big fan of Farage, too.
Your hero Winston Churchill never took responsibility for his war crimes in India. Seems a mite hypocritical for you to say someone far less guilty of criminal activity should do so.
Terrible attempt at strawmaning.Your hero Winston Churchill never took responsibility for his war crimes in India. Seems a mite hypocritical for you to say someone far less guilty of criminal activity should do so.
Nice attempt at deflection.
But back to the subject at hand.
Wikileaks exposes one of the major parties in an election cycle in a major western democracy essentially curating the election coverage of a number of the biggest mainstream press outlets in the country. It is alleged that the leak of this information comes from Russian sources.
Do you:
a) welcome the information as it exposes a genuine threat to the free press.
or
b) shriek about Russian intrusion and go try to bury any outlet that mentions it (you know, all those "war on fake news" articles, simultaneously bigging up the "independent" mainstream media...).
I'm only really seeing (b) from the left at the moment. I don't like to overuse references to Orwell, but we're getting there at this point.
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Hidden for size.
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No the GOP, especially as it is under Trump, will ignore the economic issues and make an appeal to the leftists' whiteness as a means to peel away their votes. Whether I call it "white chauvinism" or "brocialism," the overall point is that this bloc of left voters is much closer to the GOP than they like to think.
No the GOP, especially as it is under Trump, will ignore the economic issues and make an appeal to the leftists' whiteness as a means to peel away their votes. Whether I call it "white chauvinism" or "brocialism," the overall point is that this bloc of left voters is much closer to the GOP than they like to think.
So basically, if it was a white voter they'd say. "I feel ya buddy, those goddamn foreigners takin our jerbs, and them 'migrants too. Also China, and the EU with their socialist regulations, heaven help us".
The yelling would be for anybody else.
He's not paying any taxes, but he's also only getting 10% of his former wages.
Alan Moore's Swamp Thing will destroy Trump. A Good Cartoon.
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Time for Garrison cartoon - interestingly this is the first time he has portrayed Trump looking at all weak. Bad signs:
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Latest Garrison Cartoon, his blog is hilarious too:
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Alan Moore's Swamp Thing will destroy Trump. A Good Cartoon.
Is it just me, or does Obama's head look kinda phallic?
At least, I think that's supposed to be Obama. With how little he looks like a human being, he could be a conehead for all I know.
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I have seen too many Garrison comics with buff Trump so here's something completely different:
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Note that the situation is a bit more complicated. A more apt comparison might have been if the GOP started to hit itself by accident while trying to fight the ACA.
He's not going to do anything to Hillary because he doesn't want to do something to Hillary.
On the other hand, she's a woman.
On the other hand, she's a woman.
Why is that a problem? I mean, most of his lovers are women.
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No? Seems good to me
No? Seems good to me
Do you really think the far left is so benign?
No? Seems good to me
Do you really think the far left is so benign?
Remind me how many people the far left has killed in the last, say, five years? I'm being generous and giving them five.
No? Seems good to me
Do you really think the far left is so benign?
Remind me how many people the far left has killed in the last, say, five years? I'm being generous and giving them five.
It seems to me that you're considering body count the only acceptable metric for a group's odiousness. I could explain the problems with this viewpoint, but it'll be more satisfying to prove you wrong. According to the Cato Institute, left-wing extremists murdered 13 people (https://www.cato.org/blog/terrorism-deaths-ideology-charlottesville-anomaly) since the beginning of 2016.
Do you really think your non sequitur isn't annoying as fuck?No? Seems good to me
Do you really think the far left is so benign?
Also if you listen to what extreme-left and extreme-right are saying it becomes clear that one side is largely made up from racists who want to exterminate or deport different ethnic groups while the other side has very few people who support any kinds of massacres or killing.
They are not the same.
Even more so because usually when people talk about how "both sides are the same" they are not comparing Nazis with rabid Communists, they are comparing Nazis with the people marching against Nazis which is even worse comparison.
Do you really think your non sequitur isn't annoying as fuck?No? Seems good to me
Do you really think the far left is so benign?
Also, enjoy.
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Oh yes because Nazis are such wonderful people in and of themselves. What with their belief that all they consider "undesirable" should be put to death to make way for the glorious Aryan race. Such wonderful people who we should just let them have their say right?
Ironbite-does your back get sore from carrying all that water?
First of all: where's the evidence that the ANTIFA are attacking innocent people? Because I've seen so many clear false-flag attacks made by Alt-Right & friends because they desperately want to make it look like boths sides are equal.
Second: You are still missing the point. One side has several hate-groups and terrorist organizations ganging up to support the Republican party and the president because they feel that the government is now sanctioning their hate. ...The other side is made up from several conflicting groups and organizations and now you side with Nazis because some of the people who oppose them have punched people?
I personally hate this antifa movement. All it does is give the alt right fuel to say look at how violent the other side is. All we want to do is practice our freedom of speech.
Except you haven't. Not going by your posting history ar any rate.Oh yes because Nazis are such wonderful people in and of themselves. What with their belief that all they consider "undesirable" should be put to death to make way for the glorious Aryan race. Such wonderful people who we should just let them have their say right?
Ironbite-does your back get sore from carrying all that water?
I'm not defending what they have to say, only their right to say it. I'd do the same for any group: communists, Islamists, SJWs, ancaps, or anybody else you could care to name.
Except you haven't. Not going by your posting history ar any rate.Oh yes because Nazis are such wonderful people in and of themselves. What with their belief that all they consider "undesirable" should be put to death to make way for the glorious Aryan race. Such wonderful people who we should just let them have their say right?
Ironbite-does your back get sore from carrying all that water?
I'm not defending what they have to say, only their right to say it. I'd do the same for any group: communists, Islamists, SJWs, ancaps, or anybody else you could care to name.
But you totally would. Any moment now. For sure.
But you have water to carry, I understand.
So...decent people and your alt right pals do have something in common, have a cookie!
Fuck you! :)So...decent people and your alt right pals do have something in common, have a cookie!
Apology accepted.
I always look at British politics and all I can really think about it is "and people think a non-two party system is without problems?".
Australia ends up the same with preferential voting. Though you can end up where independents or outliers like the Greens hold the balance of power. Overall it's still dominated by two major parties that bought the neoliberal mantra hook, line and sinker.I always look at British politics and all I can really think about it is "and people think a non-two party system is without problems?".
The UK (and Canada) use an electoral system that tends toward two parties or regionalism (Duverger's Law) and attempt to have a multi-party system.
Australia ends up the same with preferential voting. Though you can end up where independents or outliers like the Greens hold the balance of power. Overall it's still dominated by two major parties that bought the neoliberal mantra hook, line and sinker.I always look at British politics and all I can really think about it is "and people think a non-two party system is without problems?".
The UK (and Canada) use an electoral system that tends toward two parties or regionalism (Duverger's Law) and attempt to have a multi-party system.
Yeah some basic math tells me that with respect to this Tax bill, "Simplify the Tax Code" = "Take away all sorts of things that working and middle class people use to lower their tax liability".
I'm not opposed to corporate tax reform, but fucking over everyone who makes $30k+/year is the exact wrong way to go about it.
And if you want to simplify the tax code, I'm not necessarily opposed to that either; just do it in a way that doesn't double my tax bill. Assholes.
Between this and the Obamacare repeal debacle, I'm seriously starting to wonder if the Republicans even want to be in power. Because if they pass this piece of shit bill as it's written, I'm predicting 50+ seats flip in the house, and the Dems seriously threaten the Senate on the most GOP-friendly map in recent history.
Yes it's THAT bad.
Speaking of the "skeptics," is anyone else flabbergasted that Dusty Smith walked away from them when he realized that they were all racing to see who could jump into the right-wing lake fastest?Huh. Slightly surprised but not flabbergasted.
I'm not entirely convinced that Garrison hasn't been playing 16 dimensional strip-poker and getting rich from Trumpets while continuing to make them seem ridiculous...
I'm not entirely convinced that Garrison hasn't been playing 16 dimensional strip-poker and getting rich from Trumpets while continuing to make them seem ridiculous...
I think you've got to be right - I think he just realised that the grift is really easy on that side of politics.
Garrison's got a special ability for that:
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Fake News. A lot of the world has a clear dearth of angry WHITE males.
That's.... not what china did. They removed term limits (which russia already didn't have), allowing the current president to keep getting re-elected.
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mmm... nah. Fuck Nazis. Kill 'em all.
I mean, I'm literally laying in a hospital bed with cancer, awaiting surgery and chemo. Also LOL @ "Nazis are bad and should be wiped out" being an "internet tough guy" position to take.
In before Lana comes in whining about how you're too extreme, not a good leftist, and possibly calls you "regressive left".She's a good leftist, who accommodates the reasonoble Nazis in the name of tolerance and diversity.
In before Lana comes in whining about how you're too extreme, not a good leftist, and possibly calls you "regressive left".
And now she'll get terribly offended, say that we're so very mean, and that everyone should just tolerate the Nazis, because Antifa is totally just as bad, just look at this tweet! Or this reddit post! Or this Tumblr rambling!
When it comes down to it, she's a moderate who is pissed that people dare not try and be as moderate as her - a waffling, obsessively centrist milquetoast.
I do believe that this is the finest, most Garrisony comic, that Garrison has ever done:It's almost as entertainingly batty as the denim masturbator in P&W.
(https://i.redd.it/ty0zr95x6mz01.jpg)
.................WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS!?
I think Garrison's just kinda...gone, mentally speaking.
Nazi ideology is based on violence and genocide. They won't debate in good faith and will merely use the platform you give to them to spread lies and hate. They assault and murder people when given the chance. They demand freedom of speech for themselves but will silence those who oppose them and harass and doxx people to keep them from opposing Nazis.
I have sympathy for people who have fallen for their lies or truly can't find friends elsewhere but the ideology has no value to humanity and deserves no platform. If punching them when they come out to preach hate is what it takes to stop them then doing so is necessary.
You just hinted that Nazis aren't already radicalized. Are you lying or have lived under a rock for all of your life?
It's Lana - the free speech absolutist that feels everyone deserves frozen peach...until you advocate punching Nazis, because that's just mean!
You just hinted that Nazis aren't already radicalized. Are you lying or have lived under a rock for all of your life?
Radicalized in action, not belief. I'm talking about acts of mass murder becoming more common.
Did you miss how the Neo-Nazis and KKK have assaulted and even killed people even before folks in USA began to punch them in the face? They never stopped killing people. The only difference is that it's been a while since actual Nazis have ruled countries.
You just hinted that Nazis aren't already radicalized. Are you lying or have lived under a rock for all of your life?
Radicalized in action, not belief. I'm talking about acts of mass murder becoming more common.
Ah, you're one of those. If we just don't bother the Nazis, and let them do what they want, they'll just... leave everyone alone. Because that's historically how it's worked. Leave them to their own devices and let them continue. Just give them what they want. Don't agitate them, don't rock the boat. Don't fight against them, they'll change their minds eventually.
Did you miss how the Neo-Nazis and KKK have assaulted and even killed people even before folks in USA began to punch them in the face? They never stopped killing people. The only difference is that it's been a while since actual Nazis have ruled countries.
And the "punch a Nazi" mentality could very well lead to them ruling countries again. Aren't you afraid of self-fulfilling prophecies? Because it's happened before.
You know, the only person I've seen here deciding to help Nazis (supposedly) because they think that punching them is wrong, is Lana.
And I think it says more about Lana's political beliefs than it says about how sympathetic the Nazis are.
There is a valid point of concern if violence helps Nazi propaganda. I don't know if the concern troll misunderstands this or intentionally misrepresents it to add weight to it: this propaganda is not going to increase their support among the general public. What it might do is draw some people who already are in their close proximity even closer. Whether this is an important enough concern compared to allowing Nazis spread fear among vulnerable groups without countering it with direct action can be debated. When you have Nazi sympathizers among the public officials and police and the public institutions are rotten with racism it's tone deaf to tell the minorities to just trust the system to protect them.
So, you think occasionally punching and beating Nazis is viewed by the public as unfavorably as committing terrorist strikes that kill civilians and assassinating police officers and judges?
So it's still OK to punch Nazis like we've been saying from the start as long as we don't also murder innocent civilians and police officers.
I'm glad that we can finally end this debate.
This reminds me: https://twitter.com/studentactivism/status/1007301941540655106
Character from "Small Gods" by Terry Pratchett.
I read it in Finnish so I could get some of the titles wrong but he was basically the Grand Inquisitor (or actually Exquisitor or something) of a highly militant religion not entirely unlike Catholism during its worst times.
Vorbis is a character who is considered to be the obvious candidate for the next "Pope" (Prophet I think the title was) of the religion due to his devotion to the religion and his task of torturing unbelievers and heretics. Vorbis is a liar, a cruel sociopath who starts wars while pretending to be diplomatic and posing as a victim. ...He also lacks faith completely. He IS loyal to the cause of the religious organization but seems to utterly lack any faith in their god and merely goes with the rules for the sake of rules and to gain power for himself.
Decorum and civility in US politics died at Charlottesville when a white-supremacist terrorist murdered Heather Hayer.
Its eulogy was Donald Trump saying that there were good people on both sides.
Decorum and civility in US politics died at Charlottesville when a white-supremacist terrorist murdered Heather Hayer.
Its eulogy was Donald Trump saying that there were good people on both sides.
Actually, something recently came to my attention. A Redneck Revolt member named Dwayne Dixon admitted - on video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10ypNR8w75A) - that he waved a gun at Fields shortly before the death of Heather Heyer. I'm... honestly not sure what to make of this.
Taking a look at that Youtube channel "Jews jews jews, poor South African whites being genocided, Identity Evropa, harassing Shia Labeauf with anti-semitism (but only as a "joke"), Richard Spencer times several, more jews jews jews and lots of more racism." ...Really? That's your source?
But as for the "waving a gun" thingy... Fields was intimidating protesters. When he stopped in front of Dixon, Dixon waved a gun. He didn't point a gun at Fields. He didn't threaten to shoot Fields. Fields continued driving around, including passing by Dixon again before he ran into a crowd on purpose.
Fields had several chances to go away. He was not threatened by Dixon much if he came back again and again. Fields made the choice to attempt to kill as many people as he could with his car and it wasn't because he couldn't get away, he got into that situation by purpose.
This is why we say that you are a Nazi. You've made the conscious choice to roll with them and defend them whenever you can. You are the kind of person who would complain that the Jews who killed the SS guards in an attempt to escape Auschwitz are the real villains.
Taking a look at that Youtube channel "Jews jews jews, poor South African whites being genocided, Identity Evropa, harassing Shia Labeauf with anti-semitism (but only as a "joke"), Richard Spencer times several, more jews jews jews and lots of more racism." ...Really? That's your source?
I didn't notice that. But unless they cut some crucial context, I don't think that means we should automatically dismiss the clip.But as for the "waving a gun" thingy... Fields was intimidating protesters. When he stopped in front of Dixon, Dixon waved a gun. He didn't point a gun at Fields. He didn't threaten to shoot Fields. Fields continued driving around, including passing by Dixon again before he ran into a crowd on purpose.
Fields had several chances to go away. He was not threatened by Dixon much if he came back again and again. Fields made the choice to attempt to kill as many people as he could with his car and it wasn't because he couldn't get away, he got into that situation by purpose.
Now that's a better rebuttal. Using facts. If what you say is true, then I withdraw my claim.This is why we say that you are a Nazi. You've made the conscious choice to roll with them and defend them whenever you can. You are the kind of person who would complain that the Jews who killed the SS guards in an attempt to escape Auschwitz are the real villains.
And now you're just being ridiculous. I was not defending Fields, I was just bringing to light some information I thought might be a game-changer. I certainly don't defend Nazis; the closest I've come is saying "maybe we shouldn't use violence against them except in self-defense or the defense of others." Would a Nazi constantly mock the alt-right and their views? Would a Nazi denounce white supremacist hate crimes? Would a Nazi complain about Donald Trump pandering to racists, instead of praising him for it? Somehow, I don't think so.
Besides, you lost your right to judge my intent when you thought this clearly satirical article (http://archive.is/7VOAO) was sincere. Seriously, there are multiple details (a grown adult having never heard of Mao or the Holocaust, talking to a computer and expecting it to answer, the fact that it had "A Modest Proposal" in the title) that scream "Poe" like a Baltimore literary convention, and yet you thought the author sincerely wanted to throw socialists off skyscrapers.
Putting it bluntly, I don't think you're fit to be a moderator.
Taking a look at that Youtube channel "Jews jews jews, poor South African whites being genocided, Identity Evropa, harassing Shia Labeauf with anti-semitism (but only as a "joke"), Richard Spencer times several, more jews jews jews and lots of more racism." ...Really? That's your source?
I didn't notice that. But unless they cut some crucial context, I don't think that means we should automatically dismiss the clip.But as for the "waving a gun" thingy... Fields was intimidating protesters. When he stopped in front of Dixon, Dixon waved a gun. He didn't point a gun at Fields. He didn't threaten to shoot Fields. Fields continued driving around, including passing by Dixon again before he ran into a crowd on purpose.
Fields had several chances to go away. He was not threatened by Dixon much if he came back again and again. Fields made the choice to attempt to kill as many people as he could with his car and it wasn't because he couldn't get away, he got into that situation by purpose.
Now that's a better rebuttal. Using facts. If what you say is true, then I withdraw my claim.This is why we say that you are a Nazi. You've made the conscious choice to roll with them and defend them whenever you can. You are the kind of person who would complain that the Jews who killed the SS guards in an attempt to escape Auschwitz are the real villains.
And now you're just being ridiculous. I was not defending Fields, I was just bringing to light some information I thought might be a game-changer. I certainly don't defend Nazis; the closest I've come is saying "maybe we shouldn't use violence against them except in self-defense or the defense of others." Would a Nazi constantly mock the alt-right and their views? Would a Nazi denounce white supremacist hate crimes? Would a Nazi complain about Donald Trump pandering to racists, instead of praising him for it? Somehow, I don't think so.
Besides, you lost your right to judge my intent when you thought this clearly satirical article (http://archive.is/7VOAO) was sincere. Seriously, there are multiple details (a grown adult having never heard of Mao or the Holocaust, talking to a computer and expecting it to answer, the fact that it had "A Modest Proposal" in the title) that scream "Poe" like a Baltimore literary convention, and yet you thought the author sincerely wanted to throw socialists off skyscrapers.
Putting it bluntly, I don't think you're fit to be a moderator.
8 year olds dude.
I guess you ran out of arguments and are resorting to use of non sequitur.
Now now. We don't know that Lana is definitely UpHisOwnDragon. Just supposing that. That said, didn't Nazis rape 8 year olds anyways?
Ironbite-cause that's probably a thing Nazis did.
Hilary seems to have a second mouth on her tongue.
I came across these twitter comments today in response to Mackinnon cartoon above. I hate how fucking hyper sensitive people are these days that they would view a comic that depicts the GOP attacking women as a man attacking women themselves, and that men are not allowed to depict this view point as only a woman who has gone through this experience should. Do you want men to side with you or do you want to create more of this environment you hate? That's the point of the cartoon it's supposed to be shocking and piss you off about the GOP, way to fucking miss the point for your own self victimization. I hate SJWs.
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I have to wonder if these people who parrot the "republic not a democracy" talking point actually know the context.
Way way back in the late 18th century, "democracy" meant "direct democracy" (think ancient Athens) and "republic" meant "representative democracy" (think all democratic countries today--Switzerland's probably the closest to a direct democracy, but there are important checks on the power of the voters as a legislative body). Athenian democracy was essentially mob rule, and Madison et al were desperate to avoid that (see, for instance, Federalist No. 55). Hence they set up a republic (ie a representative democracy) specifically to hold the power of the mob in check. (Hence why the President is elected indirectly and the Senate was initially also elected indirectly.)
So technically the people who say "republic not a democracy" are right, if you're 225 years behind in your definitions.
Republic just means that it's not ruled by a king.
This is going here because while I think the sentiment and message of the Cartoon is both mean spirited and delusional, you have to admit that fucker Ramirez can draw:I think you used the wrong link.
(http://theweek.com/cartoons/809823/political-cartoon-statue-liberty-migrants-seeking-asylum-immigration-policy)
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Cartoonists love Roger Stone's Tattoo:
The Good: OK I THINK I HAVE FUCKED THE LINK
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The Garrison:
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"Ocrazyo Cortez"
"Ocrazyo Cortez"
Pretty rich of him to be casting aspersions on her mental health when he worships a man who might have early-stage dementia.
Your honor, it is my opinion that my client Patrick Bateman has indeed killed many, many, MANY people, but we'd be better off not prosecuting him because would you just imagine how long it'd take?
There's also at least rumours that Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva, former President of Brazil and, at one point, leading contender for the Presidential election last year, was nailed on a relatively minor corruption charge (as opposed to more serious ones he was facing) shortly before the election because his political opponents could get a conviction on that one much more easily, and all they needed was a conviction on basically anything to stop him from running.
Three hundred academics and public intellectuals joined to launch a manifesto entitled “Lula da Silva is a political prisoner. #FreeLula!,” denouncing the detention of the former Brazilian president and current Presidential candidate Lula da Silva. The petition discusses in detail the arbitrary nature of the trial conducted by Judge Sergio Moro against Lula da Silva, stating that he is nothing less than a political prisoner. The document asserts that the international community should treat him as such and demands his immediate release.
The manifesto is supported by world-famous legal scholars, such as Karl Klare, Friedrich Müller, António José Avelãs Nunes and Jonathan Simon. Eminent researchers of law and lawfare, such as John Comaroff, Eve Darian-Smith, Tamar Herzog and Elizabeth Mertz, champion the manifesto. International labor lawyers and trade unionists, such as Stanley Gacek, also support it.
Additionally, the petition is backed by world-renowned public intellectuals like Tariq Ali, Robert Brenner, Wendy Brown, Noam Chomsky, Angela Davis, Axel Honneth, Fredric R. Jameson, Leonardo Padura, Carole Pateman, Thomas Piketty, Boaventura de Sousa Santos and Slavoj Žižek.
Leading sociologists as Fred Block, Mark Blyth, Michael Burawoy, Peter Evans, Neil Fligstein, Marion Fourcade, Leo Panitch, Frances Fox Piven, Michael Heinrich, Michael Löwy, Laura Nader, Erik Olin Wright, Dylan Riley, Ananya Roy, Wolfgang Streeck, Göran Therborn, Michael J. Watts and Suzi Weissman also have signed the petition.
The manifesto is embraced by famous specialists and directors of research centers on Latin American Studies like Alex Borucki, Aviva Chomsky, Brodwyn Fischer, Barbara Fritz, James N. Green, Victoria Langland, Mara Loveman, Carlos Marichal, Teresa A. Meade, Tianna Paschel, Erika Robb Larkins, Aaron Schneider, Stanley J. Stein and Barbara Weinstein.
Moreover, the petition is endorsed by distinguished economists like Dean Baker, Ha-Joon Chang, Giovanni Dosi, Gérard Duménil, Gary Dymski, Geoffrey Hodgson, Costas Lapavitsas, Marc Lavoie, Thomas Palley, Robert Pollin, Pierre Salama, Guy Standing, Robert H. Wade and Mark Weisbrot.
This is a great cartoon, but not for the reason the author thinks:
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Also, again with the VENICE WHALERS. I swear, they hold up Venezuela like its the only left wing country in existence.
Not to mention the lengths they're all going to make Venezuela look so much worse than it is. Like the fake news about torching those aid trucks
http://stocktalkjournal.com/greenwald-coordinated-lie-over-maduro-burning-aid-trucks-reveals-how-fake-news-spreads/
Not to mention the lengths they're all going to make Venezuela look so much worse than it is. Like the fake news about torching those aid trucks
http://stocktalkjournal.com/greenwald-coordinated-lie-over-maduro-burning-aid-trucks-reveals-how-fake-news-spreads/
Um, the link is broken.
But yeah, Venezuela's in a bad enough situation that you don't need to make shit up to make it seem worse.
Not to mention the lengths they're all going to make Venezuela look so much worse than it is. Like the fake news about torching those aid trucks
http://stocktalkjournal.com/greenwald-coordinated-lie-over-maduro-burning-aid-trucks-reveals-how-fake-news-spreads/
Um, the link is broken.
But yeah, Venezuela's in a bad enough situation that you don't need to make shit up to make it seem worse.
Not to mention the lengths they're all going to make Venezuela look so much worse than it is. Like the fake news about torching those aid trucks
http://stocktalkjournal.com/greenwald-coordinated-lie-over-maduro-burning-aid-trucks-reveals-how-fake-news-spreads/
Um, the link is broken.
But yeah, Venezuela's in a bad enough situation that you don't need to make shit up to make it seem worse.
It's less that they're trying to make Venezuela look worse than it is as that they're trying to make Maduro look worse than he is.
Not to mention the lengths they're all going to make Venezuela look so much worse than it is. Like the fake news about torching those aid trucks
http://stocktalkjournal.com/greenwald-coordinated-lie-over-maduro-burning-aid-trucks-reveals-how-fake-news-spreads/
Um, the link is broken.
But yeah, Venezuela's in a bad enough situation that you don't need to make shit up to make it seem worse.
It's less that they're trying to make Venezuela look worse than it is as that they're trying to make Maduro look worse than he is.
Which is also unnecessary, in my opinion, since the OAS has recommended he be tried for crimes against humanity (https://nationalpost.com/news/politics/canada-introduces-new-sanctions-on-venezuelan-regime-in-wake-of-devastating-report-on-crimes-against-humanity). You don't need to turn him into a mustache-twirling villain.
As much as I love Garrison, if he starts coming after Australia I'm going to have to bludgeon him to death with my cock:
(https://grrrgraphics.com/the-australian-freedom-force/)
This is actually really insightful but not for the reason the author thinks:
(https://images.theweek.com/sites/default/files/stg040319_color.jpg?resize=807x807)
Fuck I love Garrison, also he draws a banging Kamala Harris:
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Fuck I love Garrison, also he draws a banging Kamala Harris:
(https://grrrgraphics.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/siren_song_of_socialism-blood-1024x745.jpg)
OK having another look at this - Garrison really finds Kamala Harris hot. He draws her hotter than Tulsi Gabbard and don't get me wrong Ms Harris is fucking gorgeous but Ms Gabbard is a stone cold fox. I don't agree with Gabbard's politics but she's got actual glamour looks.
Because Trump is like a smart person who knows better than to be seduced by socialism.
It's because Trump is secretly gay. Either that or Trump has a melanin meter in his cock.
Because there's only one thing to label and it's labeled?
Hope this works because Steve Bell is amazing:
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And Brexit was all about saving the NHS, how about that - this one is Martin Rawson:
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Hope this works because Steve Bell is amazing:
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Herd ’em up, move ’em out, lock ’em up
Update:
Barr will not recuse himself from Epstein prosecution: Official
Jefferey Epstein, the billionaire pedophile, looks like he will finally face justice.
A lot of his friends and associates are most likely very nervous right now, but anyone who abused children with him need to be exposed and prosecuted. This will be much bigger than the NXIVM sex scandal.
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The biggest name has to be Bill Clinton, who made over two dozen trips to Little St. James Island aboard Epsteins’s private jet known as the ‘Lolita Express.’ Hillary is also involved and one can only hope that this latest scandal will finally end another possible run for the presidency.
It’s time to expose all involved and also investigate the evidence on his private island. He has a demonic structure atop a hill and dungeons below. These people worship Satan. It’s all sick and disgusting.
Also disgusting is the FakeNews corporate media trying to frame President Trump as Epstein’s best buddy when in fact Trump banned him from Mar a Lago when he found out what Epstein was. Trump also voluntarily released info about the pedophile to the FBI.
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Let’s hope Epstein’s arrest signals the start of justice for the Deep State Swamp criminals.
Kudos to Mike Cernovich for his lawsuit that forced the release of information related to Epstein’s case. It shows that citizen activists and journalists can effect change.
—Ben Garrison
So, he's almost illiterate and has the vocabulary of a preschooler. How the god damned shit does he function?
I'd say with his hostile takeover of the US court system, transfer of wealth upwards and undermining of the electoral system, academia and the third estate he's functioning exactly as the GOP wants.So, he's almost illiterate and has the vocabulary of a preschooler. How the god damned shit does he function?
He barely does.
So, he's almost illiterate and has the vocabulary of a preschooler. How the god damned shit does he function?
As a Californian myself, that cartoon can go fuck itself. We're doing fine. We're certainly doing a hell of a lot better than fucking Idaho, my last residence before I moved down here.
Also, remind me which set of policies led to economic ruin - the Democratic policies of California, or the Republican policies of Oklahoma? I seem to remember Oklahoma all but collapsing under right-wing rule.
Whose the blonde lady though?
Should have labelled him as Jimmy Dore.
McConnel is the turtle one right?
He doesn't like Biden, can't you see that Biden has his hands open to grope Kamala Harris - Garrison (with a complete absence of self reflection) will decry Biden as a creepy guy who gropes women.
When Ben Garrison seems to like a Democratic candidate (ie Biden) that's a sign that he probably shouldn't be the Democratic nominee...
Underlying all other truths spoken during the Year of Reconciliation is the truth that the modern city of Vancouver was founded on the traditional territories of the Musqueam, Squamish and Tsleil-Waututh First Nations and that these territories were never ceded through treaty, war or surrender.
Alt-Right to boycott Indiana Jones franchise over ‘subtle’ anti-Nazi themes
Young white man unhappy
Young white men who are members of the Alt-Right movement have decided to boycott all films in the Indiana Jones franchise after learning it carries a hidden anti-Nazi message.
The move comes after leading Alt-Right member Simon Williams was called down from his bedroom by his mum in order watch a nice film with the family.
However, upon watching Raiders of the Lost Ark for the first time in years, he noticed that it is nothing more than a propagandist tool for feminists and snowflakes who don’t like the fact that Donald Trump won and that the UK voted to leave the EU.
He explained, “Raiders is just the latest weapon of the establishment elite to try and make Nazi’s look bad.
“They took all the things the Nazis did and said and put them in a film purely to create a villain for Indy to battle against. I don’t know why I didn’t see this sooner.
“It’s basically a story about a plucky group of women and ethnics who help the ‘hero’ take victory against the strong white alpha male.
“I’m sick of move studios making films where the bad guys are the people I like and look up to.
“I just want a nice Hollywood blockbuster where the fascist oppressors come off best, is that too much to ask?”
Note how the Trump supporter is wearing a swastika armband (and the skinhead making a Nazi salute and Hitler as well.) Garrison is past trying to say that Trump isn't racist, now he is fully admitting that Trump and his supporters are white supremacists.
Unfortunately I have never figured out how to image post the goodness that is First Dog on the Moon from the Graun, so here is a hyperlink:
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/sep/11/how-actually-dare-people-politicise-the-bushfires-by-claiming-scientifically-its-linked-to-the-climate-crisis (https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/sep/11/how-actually-dare-people-politicise-the-bushfires-by-claiming-scientifically-its-linked-to-the-climate-crisis)
Honestly that's hilarious. I love it.
And I'd say the line of thought makes sense. There's only one way to get to an alt-righter, and that's to mock them. Make it clear to them how *stupid and silly* you find them.
Is that supposed to be the Ukraine airline?
(https://i.cbc.ca/1.5425346.1578946405!/fileImage/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/16x9_780/bruce-mackinnon.jpg)
Yes of course because if you remember just before Iran Flight 655 was shot down by the Vincennes, the iranians had murdered a US general by launching a missile into Canada killing the US general and the Canadian militia leader he was meeting with, putting the US on high alert that then it was shot down accidentally as it went from Canadian airspace into the US.
....
Or wait that didn't happen and these tragedies both have US aggression as part of their cause but Iran Flight 655 was not preceded by an Act of War on the part of the Iranians.
During the Iraq-Iran war, where the US were on the side of Saddam Hussein's Iraq. In the Persian Gulf.
(https://i.cbc.ca/1.5425346.1578946405!/fileImage/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/16x9_780/bruce-mackinnon.jpg)
Do you think the Iranian government should be held partially responsible for Iran Air Flight 655?
Wrong. American frigate USS Samuel B. Roberts (FFG-58) was mined by Iran less than three months before the shootdown and there was fear of further Iranian attacks.
(https://i.cbc.ca/1.5425346.1578946405!/fileImage/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/16x9_780/bruce-mackinnon.jpg)
Do you think the Iranian government should be held partially responsible for Iran Air Flight 655?
Well I'm not dpareja, but he posted a cartoon that explicitly depicts both Trump and Khamenei both pointing smoking guns over the dead Canadian, so I think it's safe to say dpareja views both as responsible. I'm at a lost as to why you wouldn't think he does.Wrong. American frigate USS Samuel B. Roberts (FFG-58) was mined by Iran less than three months before the shootdown and there was fear of further Iranian attacks.
Which is bad but they only did to get back at Trump for scraping Obama's deal, which they had been perfectly happy to agree to, and because they were worried about an American attack, since Trump had brought in giant warhawks like Bolton who clearly in favor of a war with Iran.
Trump is the one who started the process of escalation that nearly started a war and may yet. The Iranian leadership are also very bad people of the two they are less to blame for the current tensions.
Are both responsible? In my view, yes, because the history of US-Iran tensions is a two-sided affair.
Well the Ayotallahs are terrible but perhaps you should trace their path to power. Which involved the US removing the democratically elected government of Iran and replacing it with the Shah. It was the resulting problems which resulted in the 'Islamic' revolution. The other point is that none of the incidents we talked about involved a threat to or close to the United States (there was no Iranian Cuban Missile Crisis). All these events were very close to Iran. You know so that they might feel threatened.
Because they think it sends a message that they're willing to fight to the death for their "rights." Of course, they don't realize that it actually makes them look like they're compensating for something.
These people think that they can also stand toe to toe with the US army because they shoot cans off of their fences in their back yard.
My uncle-in-law is of that mind, thinking an armed civilian revolt could actually work. He's not full "I CAN COUNT TO POTATO" militia, thankfully, but that's largely because he's too old. Its also hilariously ironic because these are usually the same dumb cunts that, in the very next breath, ook about the firepower of the US Mihl'turruh. Ya know, the armchair generals that think they're hot shit because they can rattle off statistics about the M1 Abrams or the rate of fire of a P90. The exact same weapons tech that'd be brought to bear against them if they decided to go full potato and actually try to start an armed revolt...assuming they didn't last less than five minutes when Dale's "mother-of-all-pipe-bombs" explodes in his hands and turns half your LARPing group into paste.
Not to mention the tech the Army has is way more advanced than anything a militia would have. A bunch of M4s and kevlar vests would stand no chance against a camouflaged night seeing drone that can carpet bomb them before they would even realize what hit them.
*laughs in Vietnamese*
The same idiots who loudly talk about how ready they are to fight the government will be the first people to start whining about how unfair drones are, and how the government should come fight them like men.
It wasn't even the case that the vietcong were killing more US soldiers for every vc killed. But if there was an organised uprising it would be squashed unless like Ravy says the US military joined in (presumably with some State governements) US Civil War II presumably this time it would be the West and East Coast vs the Middle, rather than the North vs the South.
*laughs in Vietnamese*
*laughs in facts (https://www.historynet.com/vietnam-war)*
The only reason we pulled out of Vietnam was because of footage of the Tet Offensive, which actually ended as a crushing defeat for the NVA and Viet Cong, came over to the States and people misinterpreted it, causing a massive decrease in popularity for the war effort Stateside.
The people that say "Oh, we totes lost Vietnam because muh guerrilla warfare" are the exact same idiots that claim Hitler would've won WWII if America hadn't showed up; it was just a matter of when Stalin decided to send millions of angry Slavs to get revenge. Not if, when.
Yet, to say the media cost America victory in Vietnam is vastly oversimplifying a very complex situation. As noted above, a number of sources warned U.S. leaders against becoming embroiled in Southeast Asia. Corruption and instability in South Vietnam’s government did not instill confidence in its people, or in the Americans working with it. Ruling out an invasion of North Vietnam assured that a purely military victory would not be possible, a fact that was at odds with many Americans’ expectations for the war.
It wasn't even the case that the vietcong were killing more US soldiers for every vc killed. But if there was an organised uprising it would be squashed unless like Ravy says the US military joined in (presumably with some State governements) US Civil War II presumably this time it would be the West and East Coast vs the Middle, rather than the North vs the South.
So, basically, a curbstomp battle that'd last, like, 3 months. Tops.
Seriously, though, without support from the actual, factual military, any attempt at armed revolution in the US (organized or no) would be doomed from the outset. They'd either get a face full of mass amounts of tear gas and yeeted into jail until the heat death of the universe, or they'd go up against every bit of tech they're normally spending their hours jacking off to on Reddit...and end up in a hole, somewhere, on fire.
Here are a few statistics you might find interesting.
There are about 1.5 million people in all branches of the American military put together. The majority are unarmed noncombatant support staff.
Between one-third and one-half of American adults own guns. Some only have one, but the average number is eight guns. About half of non-gun owners would be willing to own a gun in the future.
Even if we go with the more conservative estimates and assume that only a tenth would fight, armed civilians would outnumber the military two-to-one. And because this is a point that bears repeating, most people in the military don't actually fight.
Well said Justin, well said. Better gun laws are needed to prevent more tragedies like we had recently.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/opinion/opinion-gun-control-handguns-1.5532173
Well said Justin, well said. Better gun laws are needed to prevent more tragedies like we had recently.
What laws would have prevented the tragedy in Nova Scotia? And does what happened justify screwing over law-abiding citizens?
And a lot of the commenters seem to agree with me.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/opinion/opinion-gun-control-handguns-1.5532173
Well, that was a load of bullshit. And a lot of the commenters seem to agree with me.
Well said Justin, well said. Better gun laws are needed to prevent more tragedies like we had recently.
What laws would have prevented the tragedy in Nova Scotia? And does what happened justify screwing over law-abiding citizens?
What the fuck do you need an assault rifle for?
https://www.cbc.ca/news/opinion/opinion-gun-control-handguns-1.5532173
Well, that was a load of bullshit. And a lot of the commenters seem to agree with me.
Is there any specific statement or set of statements In the article you can argue against? Remember, this is a Canadian article about a Canadian law, so no right to bear arms here.
There is no conceivable reason why an ordinary person needs to own a handgun. No reason whatsoever.
Likewise, the term "shooting yourself in the foot" is not just a metaphor. Military medics know well that when you draw a pistol in a panic, the first round sometimes goes through your foot. Or an innocent bystander. If you keep it tucked into your waistband, it will go through something else, but that's another story.
The more guns in society, the more gun deaths.
Legal guns have a way of being stolen and becoming illegal.
And even a law-abiding gun owner can cross over to the dark side under stress, delusion and paranoia.
People who rave about owning these devices of death are often referred to as "gun enthusiasts." This makes about as much sense as "poison gas enthusiasts" or "land mine enthusiasts." Collecting and slavering over devices which are primarily designed to kill people is not normal.
A suggested scenario:
1. A total and absolute ban on handgun sales, and on handgun ownership by private citizens. (With long prison terms for violation.)
2. Restriction of long guns to bolt-action rifles and limited-magazine shotguns.
3. Firm enforcement of minimum sentences for possession of any restricted weapon, and even more stringent penalties for anyone committing a crime with a firearm.
4. Exemptions, under strict controls, where subsistence hunting is a way of life.
Add to this a heightened border vigilance against guns coming from the United States, and not only will gun crime decrease, so will accidental deaths and suicides.
The right to bear arms is an inherent human right, not some privilege granted by governments.
The idea that anything should be banned because there is no "need" for it is irrational and undemocratic.
The right to bear arms is an inherent human right, not some privilege granted by governments.
The idea that anything should be banned because there is no "need" for it is irrational and undemocratic.
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The right to bear arms is an inherent human right, not some privilege granted by governments.
Well in Canada it isn't. Canada has really strict gun laws requiring you to attain a license depending on what kind of firearm you want to purchase. Which requires you to take the Canada's firearms safety course. As well as pass a psychiatric evaluation and a full on background check. Every gun you buy has a 28 day waiting period. The only guns that don't require a license are hunting rifles, but hunting also has it's own rules and regulations. So the right to own a gun is not guaranteed which is why Canada has a really low fire arm homicide rate. Two per one hundred thousand people than it's neighbor down south.
Now I agree that banning fifteen hundred types of guns is a bit extreme. When the real problem is smuggling guns in from the US.
The idea that anything should be banned because there is no "need" for it is irrational and undemocratic.
That is not true. If the item in question potentially places others at risk or is otherwise harmful to society/the world and is not needed by it's owner, then the rights of others not to be put in danger is more important. To what extent this applies to guns is debatable but it is not undemocratic or irrational to place Sarah's right to live above Bob's right to property.
"Those who would give up everyone else's essential safety to purchase a little temporary liberty deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
QuoteThe right to bear arms is an inherent human right, not some privilege granted by governments.
...You realize this isn't the finale of Moral Orel and America isn't the only country on Earth, right?
The idea that anything should be banned because there is no "need" for it is irrational and undemocratic.
Congrats, you're about a step away from authoritarianism. After all, if anyone should be able to HAVE anything, how long before people start thinking they should be able to DO anything? That slope's not as slippery as it should be...
And I would argue that a constant drive to own weapons designed to murder human beings is itself irrational...
The only rights human beings have are those granted by nations and UN. There is no natural truth that can back up a "right." Governments and legal systems can back up and uphold the rights but only the ones that the nation has agreed upon (and occasionally due to corruption even those are violated.)
Let's take that "right to bear arms" as an example. There are plenty of countries that have no such right for citizens and in fact ownership of firearms has limitations that differ from those in USA. Actually, even in USA the states have differences in how that particular right is interpreted. There is no law of physics that would prevent any country, even USA, from changing laws to violate that "right" as we can see from the fact that USA has and continues to strip people of the right to bear arms.
You can argue that thing X is something that should be a human right and possibly even get UN to ratify it or at least your country to update their constitution (if they have any) to mention that right, but even that is evidence that the rights aren't something that people or nations universally agree on.
It is my pet peeve when random people claim that just because a bunch of agnostics and religious people wrote down that they think the rights are granted from God, that it would mean that this is some sort of biblical truth. Even other Christian countries disagree on minor details of human rights. Heck, there are several human rights that USA does not uphold despite nearly every country in the world agreeing on them.
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The right to bear arms is an inherent human right, not some privilege granted by governments.
Well in Canada it isn't. Canada has really strict gun laws requiring you to attain a license depending on what kind of firearm you want to purchase. Which requires you to take the Canada's firearms safety course. As well as pass a psychiatric evaluation and a full on background check. Every gun you buy has a 28 day waiting period. The only guns that don't require a license are hunting rifles, but hunting also has it's own rules and regulations. So the right to own a gun is not guaranteed which is why Canada has a really low fire arm homicide rate. Two per one hundred thousand people than it's neighbor down south.
Now I agree that banning fifteen hundred types of guns is a bit extreme. When the real problem is smuggling guns in from the US.
Just because Canada doesn't recognize it as a human right doesn't mean it's not a human right.
Well then, maybe Canada really should ban alcohol. Nobody needs to get drunk, and as I discussed earlier, drunk driving kills far more Canadians than gun violence.
So granting people the freedom to have or do what they want... is authoritarian? Huh?
You're entitled to your opinion, but that doesn't give you the right to arbitrarily decide what other people can and can't do. I consider the desire to smoke tobacco and marijuana irrational, but I don't want to force people to give up their smoking habits. What I do want is to keep said smoking habits from hurting other people.
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The right to bear arms is an inherent human right, not some privilege granted by governments.
Well in Canada it isn't. Canada has really strict gun laws requiring you to attain a license depending on what kind of firearm you want to purchase. Which requires you to take the Canada's firearms safety course. As well as pass a psychiatric evaluation and a full on background check. Every gun you buy has a 28 day waiting period. The only guns that don't require a license are hunting rifles, but hunting also has it's own rules and regulations. So the right to own a gun is not guaranteed which is why Canada has a really low fire arm homicide rate. Two per one hundred thousand people than it's neighbor down south.
Now I agree that banning fifteen hundred types of guns is a bit extreme. When the real problem is smuggling guns in from the US.
Just because Canada doesn't recognize it as a human right doesn't mean it's not a human right.
What the fuck are you talking about? The shooting spree that were referring to took place in Canada. There's no right to bear arms in Canada and firearms are heavily regulated. Your argument makes as much sense as saying Just because (insert country) doesn't recognize not obeying speed limits as a human right doesn't mean it's not a human right.QuoteWell then, maybe Canada really should ban alcohol. Nobody needs to get drunk, and as I discussed earlier, drunk driving kills far more Canadians than gun violence.
Well being that fire arms are harder to obtain in Canada of course drunk driving kills more people. But there are also these things called laws and regulations put on alcohol consumption and operating a motor vehicles which punish offenders harshly and hold people accountable. Laws that if they were not in place would make driving completely dangerous, since anyone could just do what they want. Laws that are preventing even more deaths from happening. Laws and regulations that a lot of fire arm advocates don't want or want removed to prevent fire arm safety.
I looked through what is probably the most definitive declaration of human rights yet composed (https://www.un.org/en/universal-declaration-human-rights/).
Maybe I missed it, but could you please point me to where it says that people have a right to own guns?
Everyone has the right to life, liberty and security of person.
(1) Everyone has the right to own property alone as well as in association with others.
(2) No one shall be arbitrarily deprived of his property.
So granting people the freedom to have or do what they want... is authoritarian? Huh?
The argument that you should be allowed to do WHATEVER you want without restriction or your "freedom" is being taken away is the first step in Authoritarian Libertarianism. First, you claim "freedom" is the ability to do whatever you want, and then you claim the majority is taking away your rights. This was in fact the argument the Libertarian movement made against DESEGREGATION; that it was wrong for the government or the majority to demand all-white schools accept black children. They just took it to the logical conclusion; that if the most important thing in the world is that you can do whatever you want, then you should be allowed to deprive OTHER PEOPLE of what they have, because them having things you don't is infringing on your freedom.
You're entitled to your opinion, but that doesn't give you the right to arbitrarily decide what other people can and can't do. I consider the desire to smoke tobacco and marijuana irrational, but I don't want to force people to give up their smoking habits. What I do want is to keep said smoking habits from hurting other people.
It's bullshit to bring into an argument about a tool that exists SOLELY to murder other human beings things that are not. Smoking does not exist specifically to kill something else.
Vanto, you keep using the word "arbitrarily" but only when it is something that you specifically disagree with. I don't think you understand what the word means.
That Canada does not consider a "right to bear arms" to be a human right is not an arbitrary choice. Universal Declaration of Human Rights is the opposite of "arbitrary" as it was something that drafted by 18 people specifically chosen to be from various diverse backgrounds, it was voted on by all then members of the UN and has been later approved by nearly every country in the world. This is not something that people chose as a joke or made up on the spot, it was something that was deliberate on and meticulously crafted to be as good as possible.
Same goes with the flag burning. Germany didn't just randomly decide "lol, let's make this illegal." To make a law in any country (aside from dictatorships) means that scholars, judges and politicians have carefully drafted the law and through elected politicians, the will of the voters has been the final say on whether or not the new law is to be adopted.
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Welp, put a mark on the wall, Benny boy made a good comic once in a while. Heck, he's not even using that many labels this time.
Bold of you to assume these laws will accomplish anything. The perpetrator of this massacre committed it with guns he wasn't legally allowed to own. What laws would have stopped him?
Most places that have a "security of person" guarantee do not interpret that as a plenary right to own guns.
As for property rights, as with all rights, these have to be balanced against other considerations, such as others' individual rights (such as security of person) and societal rights. It is not in any way unreasonable to conclude that unrestricted possession of firearms infringes unduly on these latter limitations.
And, especially among developed liberal democracies, the US is an outlier in so many respects that I wouldn't reference then as a precedent for just about anything if I'm trying to argue that something is a good idea.
QuoteBold of you to assume these laws will accomplish anything. The perpetrator of this massacre committed it with guns he wasn't legally allowed to own. What laws would have stopped him?
Laws are not one hundred percent perfect. You can't stop every drunk driver, can't prevent everyone from going over the speed limit. But laws being in place has vastly improved automotive related deaths over the past century. The shootings in Nova Scotia came as a shock to the country because that kind of thing doesn't happen as often. There's a reason why Canada only had 292 related gun homicides last year where the US has close to 33,000 a year.
But your right lets not have any laws and regulations in place at all. I mean why even put locks or alarms on our doors thieves are just going to break in when they want anyway?
Vanto keeps using the word "arbitrary" like some magical word of power.
Confisgating guns from people who would use them to commit crimes is not "arbitrary." Telling people to give up guns that are now illegal in exchange for financial compensation is also not the same as some government agent stopping a random car and taking your wallet because "you look funny" which is something that actually happens in USA and is perfectly legal (put "civil forfeiture" into Duck Duck Go) so it's not like there isn't a clear precedent for something like that.
Heck, if the POTUS declared that anyone who has a gun in their possession in USA now has to prove that they got it legally AND that they are not planning to use it for a crime in the future, that would probably be legal according to the current laws in USA.
As for the whole "gun control doesn't work" aspect of the argument... There is no one "gun control" as it is merely the existence of laws limiting the ownership of firearms. There are good ways to do it and bad ways to do it. I like the current EU system for the most parts and it works well enough to merit its existence.
Besides, that argument is a fallacy. Condoms aren't 100% fool proof but we still acknowledge their worth. Traffic laws don't prevent accidents and intentional crimes in the roads perfectly, you could even call it a hit-or-miss chance, but we still agree that some laws are good and necessary. If you demand a change to be PERFECT in order to accept it, you are just opposing any change at all to the current status quo.
But, Askold, don't you see? The problem is government! If we simply dissolved the government and rule of law and instead let free markets and the self-interest of a famously rational species run the world, then all would be well! We'd be colonizing Mars and fucking hot alien babes and totally not dying of cholera because treating water costs money that could be better spent on Jeff Bezos' personal space program.
But, Askold, don't you see? The problem is government! If we simply dissolved the government and rule of law and instead let free markets and the self-interest of a famously rational species run the world, then all would be well! We'd be colonizing Mars and fucking hot alien babes and totally not dying of cholera because treating water costs money that could be better spent on Jeff Bezos' personal space program.
Do you really think I'm an ancap, or are you just being facetious?
So granting people the freedom to have or do what they want... is authoritarian? Huh?
The argument that you should be allowed to do WHATEVER you want without restriction or your "freedom" is being taken away is the first step in Authoritarian Libertarianism. First, you claim "freedom" is the ability to do whatever you want, and then you claim the majority is taking away your rights. This was in fact the argument the Libertarian movement made against DESEGREGATION; that it was wrong for the government or the majority to demand all-white schools accept black children. They just took it to the logical conclusion; that if the most important thing in the world is that you can do whatever you want, then you should be allowed to deprive OTHER PEOPLE of what they have, because them having things you don't is infringing on your freedom.
You're entitled to your opinion, but that doesn't give you the right to arbitrarily decide what other people can and can't do. I consider the desire to smoke tobacco and marijuana irrational, but I don't want to force people to give up their smoking habits. What I do want is to keep said smoking habits from hurting other people.
It's bullshit to bring into an argument about a tool that exists SOLELY to murder other human beings things that are not. Smoking does not exist specifically to kill something else.
1. Now I see what you're getting at. But you're indulging in a slippery slope fallacy. More important, that's conflating two entirely different things. My owning whatever guns I like is in no way an infringement on your rights and freedoms.
And since you brought up opposition to desegregation, I feel obligated to remind you that gun control has a well-documented history of racism. I gotta be honest: a big part of why I'm against gun control is because I'm afraid it would be applied in a discriminatory way.
2. Oh, stop being melodramatic. Guns aren't intended "solely to murder other human beings". There are completely legitimate reasons to use them, like hunting and self-defense.
Smoking also kills many more Americans every year than guns. And before you say smokers are only killing themselves, secondhand smoke kills more than 41,000 Americans every year. Even including suicides by firearm and gun-related accidents, only around 33,000 Americans are killed by gunshots annually.
So granting people the freedom to have or do what they want... is authoritarian? Huh?
The argument that you should be allowed to do WHATEVER you want without restriction or your "freedom" is being taken away is the first step in Authoritarian Libertarianism. First, you claim "freedom" is the ability to do whatever you want, and then you claim the majority is taking away your rights. This was in fact the argument the Libertarian movement made against DESEGREGATION; that it was wrong for the government or the majority to demand all-white schools accept black children. They just took it to the logical conclusion; that if the most important thing in the world is that you can do whatever you want, then you should be allowed to deprive OTHER PEOPLE of what they have, because them having things you don't is infringing on your freedom.
You're entitled to your opinion, but that doesn't give you the right to arbitrarily decide what other people can and can't do. I consider the desire to smoke tobacco and marijuana irrational, but I don't want to force people to give up their smoking habits. What I do want is to keep said smoking habits from hurting other people.
It's bullshit to bring into an argument about a tool that exists SOLELY to murder other human beings things that are not. Smoking does not exist specifically to kill something else.
1. Now I see what you're getting at. But you're indulging in a slippery slope fallacy. More important, that's conflating two entirely different things. My owning whatever guns I like is in no way an infringement on your rights and freedoms.
And since you brought up opposition to desegregation, I feel obligated to remind you that gun control has a well-documented history of racism. I gotta be honest: a big part of why I'm against gun control is because I'm afraid it would be applied in a discriminatory way.
2. Oh, stop being melodramatic. Guns aren't intended "solely to murder other human beings". There are completely legitimate reasons to use them, like hunting and self-defense.
Smoking also kills many more Americans every year than guns. And before you say smokers are only killing themselves, secondhand smoke kills more than 41,000 Americans every year. Even including suicides by firearm and gun-related accidents, only around 33,000 Americans are killed by gunshots annually.
Why have you switch to an argument about "guns" in general? We're discussing assault rifles, which exist SOLELY to murder other human beings. You ain't hunting with an assault rifle.
And you claim I'm making a slippery slope fallacy, but what I describe is EXACTLY how things proceeded in Chile in the late 70's under Pinochet, and the architects of that disaster are the same ones pushing for full libertarianism in the West...
When you have a system as reckless as the one in USA, drastic measures have to be taken in order to have any effect on it.
There is no good national registry of who owns what guns because Yanks are so paranoid about it (read about the system in place and how they are not allowed to use computers or have any type of digitally searchable database just as a "fuck you" by NRA lobbyists.) There are several states where guns can be sold without paperwork or screening if done by private individuals. The sheer amount of guns in USA is so massive that any law that doesn't deal with existing guns as well is not going to have a noticeable effect for several decades.
If you had changed your laws sooner, you might have been able to do something less drastic, now things will continue to get worse until the only real solution is to do something that seems to be way out of proportion.
I support private ownership of guns. Even the scary ones. But only if it is controlled in order to prevent dangerous people from having access to those guns. And the last bit is something that the sheer amount of firearms in USA is making impossible.
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Welp, put a mark on the wall, Benny boy made a good comic once in a while. Heck, he's not even using that many labels this time.
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Conservative, n. A statesman who is enamored of existing evils, as distinguished from the Liberal, who wishes to replace them with others.
No he doesn't like Bolton because he's a warmonger but Garrison, like Trump, has a fascination with people who appear strong.
Bolton himself is clearly a massive piece of shit blaming the democrats for stuffing up the impeachment but refusing to testify unless forced.
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Implying any of the entrenched political class actually wanted the guy out as much as the American people generally do. There were a couple crimes of his they could have gotten him on but they also enabled plenty of the authoritarian shit. Pelosi, for example, aided Trump by extending warrant-less domestic surveillance when other better democrats (like Ellison) were introducing bills to try and stop it. I'm convinced that blowback of Pelosi's own involvement with helping Trump violate laws and people's rights being pointed out is the only reason a more comprehensive case wasn't put forward. We need a better speaker candidate that has all of the good ideas socially the democrats represent but who also has enough of a spine to do more than just symbolically standing up to Trump by calling him fat and like... actually stop allowing the persecution that arises from giving unlimited powers to the shadiest parts of the american intelligence apparatus
This is classic Garrison. Just a little light on the racism:(click to show/hide)
Implying any of the entrenched political class actually wanted the guy out as much as the American people generally do. There were a couple crimes of his they could have gotten him on but they also enabled plenty of the authoritarian shit. Pelosi, for example, aided Trump by extending warrant-less domestic surveillance when other better democrats (like Ellison) were introducing bills to try and stop it. I'm convinced that blowback of Pelosi's own involvement with helping Trump violate laws and people's rights being pointed out is the only reason a more comprehensive case wasn't put forward. We need a better speaker candidate that has all of the good ideas socially the democrats represent but who also has enough of a spine to do more than just symbolically standing up to Trump by calling him fat and like... actually stop allowing the persecution that arises from giving unlimited powers to the shadiest parts of the american intelligence apparatus
Just admit you want to call them "The Deep State", but you don't want people to think you're crazy as shit.
This reads like pure conspiracy-mongering. You have no proof about your assertions, any more than the average Trump Supporter rambling on about the Deep State. Pelosi's been incredibly competent in minimizing losses during the Trump years, so I'd be interested in hearing who you'd think might be a "better speaker of the house".
But then, I'm a damn dirty corporate democrat myself, so...I guess I'm just corrupt from a base level.
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It's pointing out how all the people who tout the wonders of capitalism (and, by extension, decry socialism), are suddenly socialism's biggest fans as soon as things go badly.
Bailouts and economic stimulus.
Whenever the government provides opportunities in privileges for white people and rich people they call it “subsidized” when they do it for Negro and poor people they call it “welfare.” The fact that is the everybody in this country lives on welfare. Suburbia was built with federally subsidized credit. And highways that take our white brothers out to the suburbs were built with federally subsidized money to the tune of 90 percent. Everybody is on welfare in this country. The problem is that we all too often have socialism for the rich and rugged free enterprise capitalism for the poor. That’s the problem.
Bailouts and economic stimulus.
Yes, that. Government largesse, basically.
Now, of course, the US has a socialist system, but only for rich people and large corporations, as Dr. King observed.QuoteWhenever the government provides opportunities in privileges for white people and rich people they call it “subsidized” when they do it for Negro and poor people they call it “welfare.” The fact that is the everybody in this country lives on welfare. Suburbia was built with federally subsidized credit. And highways that take our white brothers out to the suburbs were built with federally subsidized money to the tune of 90 percent. Everybody is on welfare in this country. The problem is that we all too often have socialism for the rich and rugged free enterprise capitalism for the poor. That’s the problem.
It's pointing out how all the people who tout the wonders of capitalism (and, by extension, decry socialism), are suddenly socialism's biggest fans as soon as things go badly.
It's pointing out how all the people who tout the wonders of capitalism (and, by extension, decry socialism), are suddenly socialism's biggest fans as soon as things go badly.
isn't it more: "people will blame the boogieman of socialism when capitalism leads to something bad"?
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Sic em!
Trump didn't even win Nevada last time.
Poor Garrison. Who's he going to jerk off too now that Trump is leaving office?
No McConnell is super swampy. Even Garrison knows that. He'll go back to Rand and Ron Paul or simply continue jerking off over the true leader. Like the welsh waiting for the return of an orange obese King Arthur
Oompa loompa doompety dee
If you are wise you’ll listen to me.
What do you get when you hide Hunter’s crimes?
A return to the Swamp with all the other slimes.
What do you get when your bagpipes you blow?
Two years of blowing with nothing to show.
Trump doesn’t like the look of that!
Attorney General Bill Barr parted amicably with President Trump. Or so we’re told.
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