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Title: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on January 04, 2012, 02:34:00 am
Best is often more subjective than objective but I'm sure you can figure out what it means in this instance.

(http://www.caglecartoons.com/media/cartoons/10/2007/12/30/45238_600.jpg)
(http://www.caglecartoons.com/media/cartoons/205/2012/01/03/103930_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Worst/Best Political Cartoons
Post by: armandtanzarian on January 04, 2012, 04:36:50 am
Methinks we should start seperating the "best" and the "worst" cartoons from now on.
Title: Re: Worst/Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on January 04, 2012, 04:38:31 am
Methinks we should start seperating the "best" and the "worst" cartoons from now on.
Sure, I can do that.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Smilodon on January 04, 2012, 04:08:07 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/HDvvZ.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/XJmo0.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/BDWr5.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: ironbite on January 04, 2012, 05:06:30 pm
OH I GET IT!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Smurfette Principle on January 05, 2012, 12:01:43 pm
(http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lxbza8PNG81qz82gvo1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Smilodon on January 05, 2012, 08:44:39 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/u3wes.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on January 06, 2012, 05:14:27 am
(http://unfollowingjesus.com/files/2011/12/Atheism-610x610.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on January 06, 2012, 07:46:08 am
(http://i.imgur.com/XJmo0.jpg)
Technically the Pinto explosions were staged.  Also that is something the US really needs to do is block companies that use 10 year olds.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: The Prophet Mohammed (PBUM) on January 06, 2012, 04:48:17 pm
(http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/2483/visaifrahman2.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on January 07, 2012, 04:27:27 pm
(http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lxer6adkTl1r55d2io1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Osama bin Bambi on January 07, 2012, 05:14:29 pm
(http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lxer6adkTl1r55d2io1_500.jpg)

Once my class held a mock budget negotiation based off of what was happening in Congress. We all got different characters and "embellished" them in different ways. 

I was a far-right wing Republican conspiracy theorist whose only agenda was to replace all instances of "global warming" with "climate change theory."
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: chad sexington on January 08, 2012, 12:57:04 am

(http://www.caglecartoons.com/media/cartoons/10/2007/12/30/45238_600.jpg)

This probably belongs in the Other Thread, but it's keeping with a theme...

(http://i.imgur.com/78wW6.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Thejebusfire on January 08, 2012, 01:11:42 am
What the bloody fuck?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Sixth Monarchist on January 08, 2012, 03:30:20 pm
What the bloody fuck?

Speaking of which, it's past time this thread was subjected to the sheer mastery of graphics, semantics and satire that is your average Guardian cartoon.

(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Observer/Columnist/Columnists/2012/1/6/1325886698970/Chris-Riddell-08012012-002.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Thejebusfire on January 08, 2012, 04:38:12 pm
(http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lwh7efkv8p1r55d2io1_500.jpg)

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lwojq7agtO1r55d2io1_500.gif)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Sixth Monarchist on January 09, 2012, 09:13:55 am
(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/About/General/2012/1/8/1326059310530/Martin-Rowson-cartoon-001.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Yla on January 09, 2012, 06:02:24 pm
"It's not Tourette's, it's Empiricism"

Someone should put that on a t-shirt.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Smilodon on January 09, 2012, 06:45:14 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/4miCv.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/HYhZa.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/DsVtQ.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: ThunderWulf on January 09, 2012, 07:33:26 pm
(http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/294785_10150329268186275_177486166274_8551998_1041753834_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ian1732 on January 09, 2012, 07:48:32 pm
(http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/294785_10150329268186275_177486166274_8551998_1041753834_n.jpg)
I like this, but it seems hastily edited.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: gyeonghwa on January 09, 2012, 09:39:07 pm
(http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/374813_10150477923806275_177486166274_9180437_1795898623_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: The Right Honourable Mlle Antéchrist on January 09, 2012, 09:49:02 pm
(http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/294785_10150329268186275_177486166274_8551998_1041753834_n.jpg)

Particularly true when it comes to gay vets. The sheer hatred spewed by some people -- FReepers being the first to come to mind -- towards LGBTs who are/were in the service is sickening. I recall a mainpage quote which said something to the effect of "I will no longer support the troops now that DADT has been turned out".
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: gyeonghwa on January 09, 2012, 10:34:19 pm
(http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/400525_10150477821611275_177486166274_9179773_1500008651_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Napoleon the Clown on January 10, 2012, 01:50:49 am
The bean one is stupid. The GOP knew full-well that the tax cuts wouldn't do any of what they promise.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on January 10, 2012, 03:00:54 am
The bean one is stupid. The GOP knew full-well that the tax cuts wouldn't do any of what they promise.

Just like we know full well that beans don't sprout 20 stories high overnight.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Smilodon on January 10, 2012, 11:43:14 am
(http://i.imgur.com/D4uwp.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: KZN02 on January 10, 2012, 02:02:47 pm
(http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/294785_10150329268186275_177486166274_8551998_1041753834_n.jpg)
Well, it's possible he may be an impersonator ...
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: N. De Plume on January 10, 2012, 02:30:18 pm
But they do gotta pretend otherwise to keep the suckers going.
The bean one is stupid. The GOP knew full-well that the tax cuts wouldn't do any of what they promise.

But they do gotta pretend otherwise to keep the suckers going.

Well, it's possible he may be an impersonator ...

Burden of proof lies with the person accusing him of impersonation.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: KZN02 on January 11, 2012, 03:07:39 am
Well, it's possible he may be an impersonator ...

Burden of proof lies with the person accusing him of impersonation.
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True true, and I've read that one must ask stuff like what unit or division he/she is from to verify and stuff.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Sixth Monarchist on January 11, 2012, 03:24:16 pm
(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2012/1/10/1326239217843/Steve-Bell-11.01.2012-002.jpg)

When indeed.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RavynousHunter on January 11, 2012, 04:13:18 pm
What in the flying name of FUCK is that shit?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Vene on January 11, 2012, 04:18:04 pm
Merry Olde England.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on January 11, 2012, 04:22:48 pm
Shouldn't that be in the worst political cartoon thread? Probably my fault for not editing the contents of the OP when we decided to split the two.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Sixth Monarchist on January 11, 2012, 06:01:11 pm
Shouldn't that be in the worst political cartoon thread? Probably my fault for not editing the contents of the OP when we decided to split the two.

Absolutely not. Guardian cartoon = no context necessary!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: starseeker on January 11, 2012, 08:50:49 pm
Looks like a bizzare combination of comments on the coalition mixed with the HS2 rail link idea.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Thejebusfire on January 12, 2012, 01:40:09 am
(http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lqijphlYiy1qbi5czo1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Smurfette Principle on January 12, 2012, 02:14:13 am
Middle Ages? That shit went down well into the sixties and seventies. My dad's a natural lefty but is now a righty because of it.

(http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lxnaysVIUD1qh3h8wo1_500.png)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Itachirumon on January 12, 2012, 02:52:53 am
Are we sure he's not into frothy-frothy sex? Or dick-shit sex? After all, his last name IS a disgusting sex act, and as we all know last names are totally a choice that you're not born with, so he CHOSE to have this disgusting name... /snark
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on January 12, 2012, 02:55:34 am
Middle Ages? That shit went down well into the sixties and seventies. My dad's a natural lefty but is now a righty because of it.

(http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lxnaysVIUD1qh3h8wo1_500.png)

I enjoy this comic very much. It made me snicker.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Servo on January 12, 2012, 06:33:06 am
I enjoy this comic very much. It made me snicker.

I like the fact that the guy in the background doesn't react to the conversation until the very last moment.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: armandtanzarian on January 12, 2012, 10:13:55 am
Middle Ages? That shit went down well into the sixties and seventies. My dad's a natural lefty but is now a righty because of it.

(http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lxnaysVIUD1qh3h8wo1_500.png)
Santorum looks a lot like Quagmire.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: N. De Plume on January 12, 2012, 11:05:25 am
That cartoonist is making my hero list.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Bezron on January 12, 2012, 11:32:04 am
Middle Ages? That shit went down well into the sixties and seventies. My dad's a natural lefty but is now a righty because of it.

Even longer than you think, they tried to pull that shit on me into the 80's.  Like, I remember in 85 being about 10 and having a teacher try to get me to switch from left to right.  Her excuse was that my handwriting was terrible.  My mom complained to the administration (my dad actually agreed with the teacher) and was told that she is allowed to run her class as she sees fit.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Oriet on January 12, 2012, 12:10:19 pm
Middle Ages? That shit went down well into the sixties and seventies. My dad's a natural lefty but is now a righty because of it.

Even longer than you think, they tried to pull that shit on me into the 80's.  Like, I remember in 85 being about 10 and having a teacher try to get me to switch from left to right.  Her excuse was that my handwriting was terrible.  My mom complained to the administration (my dad actually agreed with the teacher) and was told that she is allowed to run her class as she sees fit.
My dad was naturally left handed, but was forced to use his right hand in school and so became ambidextrous. My older brother is also left handed, though if the school tried to pull the old shit of him having to use his right hand (this was in the '80s) my dad would have pulled him out and had him home schooled, tutored, or sent to a private school so that he could use his left hand.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Caitshidhe on January 12, 2012, 12:45:09 pm
I think very early in my school days--the early 90s--I was at least assumed to be right handed for no reason other than because everybody is and teachers defaulted to teaching me, and everybody else, with the right hand only. (Even going so far as to teach left from right by saying, 'The RIGHT is the hand you WRITE with!', which obviously didn't work out very well.) I don't really remember being FORCED to do it, just that it was automatically assumed I WOULD be right-handed. There wasn't any major drama when it became clear I was a lefty and nothing was going to change that. I was never in a class my entire school career with more than one other left-handed person and we were always relegated to the back or a corner of the room so we wouldn't hit our elbows on other people.

Not even my parents thought I was going to be left-handed. There's no one--really, NOBODY--from either branch of my family with this trait to have passed it on to me. Only one of my great-grandfathers was a lefty and he was forced to be right-handed in school. When he left school he switched back because nobody was making him do it anymore.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: gyeonghwa on January 12, 2012, 04:14:24 pm
(http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/381402_356830504342467_108038612554992_1422266_1860730512_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Bezron on January 12, 2012, 04:19:51 pm
I was never in a class my entire school career with more than one other left-handed person and we were always relegated to the back or a corner of the room so we wouldn't hit our elbows on other people.

They said it was the elbows thing, but it was really because they didn't want you to infect the other students.

In seriousness though, being a lefty did allow me to always get the best seats at the lunch table, and I was used as a secret weapon in pickup baseball games since none of the other kids knew how to pitch to me.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: N. De Plume on January 12, 2012, 04:26:19 pm
Nothing like a bit of baseball to get everyone hoping you’re left-handed. :)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on January 12, 2012, 04:55:37 pm
(http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/381402_356830504342467_108038612554992_1422266_1860730512_n.jpg)
I actually now am curios did Walker go to a private school since his legislation seems to asssume that most people didnt directly benefit from the school system.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: N. De Plume on January 12, 2012, 04:59:02 pm
I actually now am curios did Walker go to a private school since his legislation seems to asssume that most people didnt directly benefit from the school system.

I don’t know about his elementary and high school, but he is a 4th-year college dropout from a private university (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Walker_(politician)#Early_life.2C_education_and_career).
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on January 12, 2012, 05:01:25 pm
I actually now am curios did Walker go to a private school since his legislation seems to asssume that most people didnt directly benefit from the school system.

I don’t know about his elementary and high school, but he is a 4th-year college dropout from a private university (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Walker_(politician)#Early_life.2C_education_and_career).
Still it just seems like the legislation was written by someone with no appreciation for the educational system
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Osama bin Bambi on January 12, 2012, 06:00:24 pm
Middle Ages? That shit went down well into the sixties and seventies. My dad's a natural lefty but is now a righty because of it.

Even longer than you think, they tried to pull that shit on me into the 80's.  Like, I remember in 85 being about 10 and having a teacher try to get me to switch from left to right.  Her excuse was that my handwriting was terrible.  My mom complained to the administration (my dad actually agreed with the teacher) and was told that she is allowed to run her class as she sees fit.
My dad was naturally left handed, but was forced to use his right hand in school and so became ambidextrous. My older brother is also left handed, though if the school tried to pull the old shit of him having to use his right hand (this was in the '80s) my dad would have pulled him out and had him home schooled, tutored, or sent to a private school so that he could use his left hand.

IIRC, handedness is determined by hormones in the womb. Also, men are more likely to be left-handed, and your natural hand preference actually corresponds to which hemisphere of your brain is larger. It's even noticeable in the womb, as one side grows faster than the other.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Vermicious Knid on January 12, 2012, 09:05:50 pm
Middle Ages? That shit went down well into the sixties and seventies. My dad's a natural lefty but is now a righty because of it.

Even longer than you think, they tried to pull that shit on me into the 80's.  Like, I remember in 85 being about 10 and having a teacher try to get me to switch from left to right.  Her excuse was that my handwriting was terrible.  My mom complained to the administration (my dad actually agreed with the teacher) and was told that she is allowed to run her class as she sees fit.

It hasn't stopped. My nine-year-old nephew is a lefty and was forced in kindergarten to learn to write with his right hand. My brother and SIL just went along with it. They don't fight his handedness when it comes to baseball, though, and he's pretty damn good at the game.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: N. De Plume on January 12, 2012, 09:32:30 pm
I actually now am curios did Walker go to a private school since his legislation seems to asssume that most people didnt directly benefit from the school system.

I don’t know about his elementary and high school, but he is a 4th-year college dropout from a private university (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Walker_(politician)#Early_life.2C_education_and_career).
Still it just seems like the legislation was written by someone with no appreciation for the educational system
He doesn’t have any appreciation. Plain and simple. May be part of why he dropped out of college.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on January 12, 2012, 11:15:54 pm
I actually now am curios did Walker go to a private school since his legislation seems to asssume that most people didnt directly benefit from the school system.

I don’t know about his elementary and high school, but he is a 4th-year college dropout from a private university (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Walker_(politician)#Early_life.2C_education_and_career).
Still it just seems like the legislation was written by someone with no appreciation for the educational system
He doesn’t have any appreciation. Plain and simple. May be part of why he dropped out of college.
Still hard to believe no GOP legislators had any pings of guilt
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: N. De Plume on January 13, 2012, 12:58:19 pm
I actually now am curios did Walker go to a private school since his legislation seems to asssume that most people didnt directly benefit from the school system.

I don’t know about his elementary and high school, but he is a 4th-year college dropout from a private university (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Walker_(politician)#Early_life.2C_education_and_career).
Still it just seems like the legislation was written by someone with no appreciation for the educational system
He doesn’t have any appreciation. Plain and simple. May be part of why he dropped out of college.
Still hard to believe no GOP legislators had any pings of guilt
Why feel guilty. The Will of the Party Must be Upheld!

Seriously, though, there seems to be this Randesque view that all the regular government employees (not the legislators themselves, of course!) are just a bunch of parasites getting in the way and causing taxes to rise. They really don’t care about what they or any other government employee except themselves do, or how vital that tax is. They see those employees as parasites that must be put in their place.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: gyeonghwa on January 13, 2012, 05:11:26 pm
(http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/407820_360504603975603_122256581133741_1439847_276437603_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: TheL on January 13, 2012, 08:19:58 pm
(http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/407820_360504603975603_122256581133741_1439847_276437603_n.jpg)

Brilliant. XD
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on January 13, 2012, 08:45:16 pm
(http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/407820_360504603975603_122256581133741_1439847_276437603_n.jpg)

Did you get that off of the older forums? I could swear it was posted there too.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Meshakhad on January 13, 2012, 09:16:29 pm
When I have kids, if they are left handed, any teacher that tries to force them to write with their right hand is going to find themselves without ANY hands.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Thejebusfire on January 13, 2012, 09:25:40 pm
This conversation reminds me of that episode of American Dad where kid Francine was hit with a fish for being a lefty.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Smilodon on January 13, 2012, 10:50:23 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/MqgwK.jpg)

Not really a political cartoon, but close.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: gyeonghwa on January 13, 2012, 11:25:26 pm
(http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/407820_360504603975603_122256581133741_1439847_276437603_n.jpg)

Did you get that off of the older forums? I could swear it was posted there too.

It was on my Facebook feed. They put some older stuff on that I recognize.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on January 13, 2012, 11:27:01 pm
(http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/407820_360504603975603_122256581133741_1439847_276437603_n.jpg)

Did you get that off of the older forums? I could swear it was posted there too.

It was on my Facebook feed. They put some older stuff on that I recognize.
This is awesome
Then the went off and played mario kart
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: The Prophet Mohammed (PBUM) on January 14, 2012, 01:32:56 pm
(http://img846.imageshack.us/img846/9474/monsterpigs.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lithp on January 14, 2012, 01:49:21 pm
Quote
was told that she is allowed to run her class as she sees fit.

What.

Okay, what if the story had been, "Little Jimmy is color blind, he can't tell the difference between red & green"? Does he just have to figure it out, because teachers can run a class any way they see fit, without worrying about such things as the students' physical capabilities?

Because if I was a teacher in the '80's (which I couldn't be because they never happened), I'd have told people to write with their mouthes, or dicks, or something. I am not constrained by this logic & practicality bullshit!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Smilodon on January 14, 2012, 04:04:27 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/bnboU.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Jack Mann on January 14, 2012, 04:08:21 pm
Quote
was told that she is allowed to run her class as she sees fit.
Okay, what if the story had been, "Little Jimmy is color blind, he can't tell the difference between red & green"? Does he just have to figure it out, because teachers can run a class any way they see fit, without worrying about such things as the students' physical capabilities?

A Major in my Arabic class actually got in trouble when he was a kid for being color blind.  He was doing an assignment, and the teacher honestly thought he was just being obstinate.  Of course, he didn't know he was color blind at the time either, and after a trip to the school counselor, she gave him an apology.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cataclysm on January 14, 2012, 05:08:11 pm
(http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/391865_338563719495100_100000244230647_1325990_862311876_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Osama bin Bambi on January 14, 2012, 05:54:00 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/bnboU.jpg)

I am so sharing this on FB
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on January 14, 2012, 09:51:09 pm
(http://i664.photobucket.com/albums/vv5/Nickiecole/397947_10150487967611275_177486166274_9209346_525866561_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: armandtanzarian on January 14, 2012, 10:16:50 pm
(http://img846.imageshack.us/img846/9474/monsterpigs.jpg)
I would rate this as one of the worst, since this is actually a picture of the UK riots.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: The Prophet Mohammed (PBUM) on January 15, 2012, 11:42:21 am
I would rate this as one of the worst, since this is actually a picture of the UK riots.

I'm putting it in "best" because there's a giant pig.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Kit Walker on January 15, 2012, 12:23:22 pm
(http://i664.photobucket.com/albums/vv5/Nickiecole/397947_10150487967611275_177486166274_9209346_525866561_n.jpg)

It would be so awesome if OWS had a MLK, Jr. Golem on their side.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Smurfette Principle on January 15, 2012, 12:25:41 pm
(http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lxun9iCjhI1qghfy5o1_500.gif)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cloud3514 on January 15, 2012, 01:16:14 pm
Quote
was told that she is allowed to run her class as she sees fit.

What.

Okay, what if the story had been, "Little Jimmy is color blind, he can't tell the difference between red & green"? Does he just have to figure it out, because teachers can run a class any way they see fit, without worrying about such things as the students' physical capabilities?

Because if I was a teacher in the '80's (which I couldn't be because they never happened), I'd have told people to write with their mouthes, or dicks, or something. I am not constrained by this logic & practicality bullshit!

Am I the only one who finds it ironic that I learned to write in a Catholic school and was never forced to use his right hand?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Thejebusfire on January 15, 2012, 11:32:51 pm
(http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lxvj090E0I1r55d2io1_500.gif)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on January 16, 2012, 12:10:51 am
I love Bennett's drawing style.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Osama bin Bambi on January 16, 2012, 12:12:37 am
It looks so soft and cheery.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Juna Starrider on January 16, 2012, 12:16:11 am
There's one artist, who makes such cheery images for his editorial cartoons, but has borderline horrible messages in his cartoons that I can't reconcile the art with the message.  (And by horrible messages, I don't mean 'things I disagree with', I mean things like 'universal health care will lead to death panels)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Osama bin Bambi on January 16, 2012, 12:18:26 am
There's one artist, who makes such cheery images for his editorial cartoons, but has borderline horrible messages in his cartoons that I can't reconcile the art with the message.  (And by horrible messages, I don't mean 'things I disagree with', I mean things like 'universal health care will lead to death panels)

I don't know who you're talking about. But I did read Faithmouse once.

God that was bad.

I also used to read Hathor the Cow Goddess, but then I took an arrow to the knee.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Thejebusfire on January 16, 2012, 12:20:09 am
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Sixth Monarchist on January 16, 2012, 05:44:25 pm
I also used to read Hathor the Cow Goddess, but then I took an arrow to the knee.

I used to make 'arrow to the knee' jokes, but then I took an arrow to the knee. Here's a cartoon.

(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2012/1/13/1326490541217/Martin-Rowson-on-Scottish-001.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Thejebusfire on January 16, 2012, 11:43:32 pm
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Normandy on January 17, 2012, 12:19:52 am
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lxxedgkfiV1r33veco1_500.jpg)
If only science could make this happen.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: ironbite on January 17, 2012, 05:17:40 pm
(http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/9569/x1bux.png)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on January 17, 2012, 10:13:03 pm
(http://i664.photobucket.com/albums/vv5/Nickiecole/406174_10150471897796275_177486166274_9156030_1370014499_n.jpg)
(http://i664.photobucket.com/albums/vv5/Nickiecole/379028_343623202322131_189592294391890_1341506_927034555_n.jpg)
(http://i664.photobucket.com/albums/vv5/Nickiecole/396920_306821012687409_109496509086528_748235_1136685184_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on January 19, 2012, 11:21:09 pm
(http://i664.photobucket.com/albums/vv5/Nickiecole/404210_328058377225431_174612345903369_1013447_492160109_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: The Prophet Mohammed (PBUM) on January 20, 2012, 01:05:10 pm
(http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/1161/martinrowsononscottish0.jpg)
(http://img862.imageshack.us/img862/5627/stevebellonmichaelgov00.jpg)
(http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/8577/stevebelloncrossparty00.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on January 21, 2012, 11:12:32 am
(http://i664.photobucket.com/albums/vv5/Nickiecole/405720_343373635687895_168013899890537_1275369_2027211230_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Smilodon on January 21, 2012, 11:23:59 am
(http://i.imgur.com/jHm04.gif)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on January 21, 2012, 03:37:41 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/jHm04.gif)

That could easily mean the exact opposite of what it's supposed to mean.

"Civil rights for same-sex couples leads to tyranny!"
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Juna Starrider on January 21, 2012, 03:45:01 pm
Better phrasing would be, "Political Tyranny leads to Civil Rights for Same Sex couples!"


Either way, it still doesn't make sense.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Auri-El on January 21, 2012, 08:30:30 pm
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cataclysm on January 21, 2012, 09:32:17 pm
Better phrasing would be, "Political Tyranny leads to Civil Rights for Same Sex couples!"


Either way, it still doesn't make sense.

I think it meant that countries that were very authoritarian eventually gave equality to citizens, but a country that was supposed to be founded on liberty hasn't caught up.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Jack Mann on January 21, 2012, 09:37:13 pm
Right.  The point is that we should be doing at least as well, if not better, than the former dictatorships. 
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cataclysm on January 21, 2012, 11:37:20 pm
(http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/403946_328602287174123_162657530435267_1092417_1254893604_n.jpg)

(http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/397912_236207836453290_152358668171541_509773_1102614968_n.jpg)

(http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/394054_236630139744393_152358668171541_510471_1609093918_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Osama bin Bambi on January 22, 2012, 01:05:23 am
(http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/403946_328602287174123_162657530435267_1092417_1254893604_n.jpg)

Unfortunately, those aspects are often the reasons why he has so many fans.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: N. De Plume on January 22, 2012, 10:17:10 am
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Yeah. Republicans are only for creating jobs in the same ol’ same ol’ industries. Gotta be their jobs or no jobs. ::)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: SCarpelan on January 22, 2012, 12:29:55 pm
(http://vanhus.naamapalmu.fi/files/AT/big/9OWBuYuLgXnEkRx60WOG.gif)

I think this might have been posted in the thread on the old board but even if that's the case it's good enought to be posted again.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Eniliad on January 22, 2012, 01:12:09 pm
The message is good enough, but I always found Doonesbury a little too heavy-handed for my tastes. Not to mention it strains my suspension of disbelief; it looks "realistic" and yet, if that doctor said that shit IRL, he'd be out on his ass in days.

I don't know why that one bothers me and not any other political cartoon. *shrug*
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Vene on January 22, 2012, 01:28:38 pm
The message is good enough, but I always found Doonesbury a little too heavy-handed for my tastes. Not to mention it strains my suspension of disbelief; it looks "realistic" and yet, if that doctor said that shit IRL, he'd be out on his ass in days.

I don't know why that one bothers me and not any other political cartoon. *shrug*
I actually like it for that. It is unashamed to be liberal and makes its point in a blunt, unambiguous fashion.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: rosenewock21 on January 22, 2012, 01:40:32 pm
(http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/403946_328602287174123_162657530435267_1092417_1254893604_n.jpg)

Unfortunately, those aspects are often the reasons why he has so many fans.

Or they say we're misinterpreting his message. I linked that cartoon to a family member I'm pretty sure whacks off to Paul and this was his tweet back.

Quote
thats not entirely true, a great misrepresentation
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Thejebusfire on January 23, 2012, 04:29:57 pm
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on January 24, 2012, 08:47:02 am
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lxy89r1XBK1qzdrqro1_500.jpg)
(http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lxy89r1XBK1qzdrqro2_250.jpg)(http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lxy89r1XBK1qzdrqro3_250.jpg)
(http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lxy89r1XBK1qzdrqro4_500.jpg)

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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Thejebusfire on January 26, 2012, 01:30:46 pm
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on January 26, 2012, 03:01:59 pm
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He looks like a demented hybrid of Johnny Bravo and Duke Nukem O_o
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Da Rat Bastid on January 26, 2012, 03:25:59 pm
He looks like a demented hybrid of Johnny Bravo and Duke Nukem O_o

My thoughts exactly. :)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Damen on January 26, 2012, 03:39:09 pm
(http://davidmixner.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8341c90b153ef014e8a35f35e970d-500wi)

(http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lvpg98NPcR1qcfoo3o1_500.jpg)

(http://selfdeprecate.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/376497_10150956742665710_144753275709_21908274_401897191_n-650x422.jpg)

(http://blog.case.edu/singham/2011/10/17/ows-sheneman.jpeg)

(http://www.nowandfutures.com/grins/g3/occupy_ows_protest_reasons.jpg)

(http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w56/MyraGrozinger/New%20Start/cam.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on January 26, 2012, 04:43:07 pm
I think the last one was supposed to be against OWS
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: starseeker on January 26, 2012, 04:53:29 pm
Well that's one way to end corporate personhood.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: CaseAgainstFaith on January 26, 2012, 05:20:54 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/QuAyr.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Osama bin Bambi on January 27, 2012, 01:17:11 am
(http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/403946_328602287174123_162657530435267_1092417_1254893604_n.jpg)

Unfortunately, those aspects are often the reasons why he has so many fans.

Or they say we're misinterpreting his message. I linked that cartoon to a family member I'm pretty sure whacks off to Paul and this was his tweet back.

Quote
thats not entirely true, a great misrepresentation

My dad is a Paul fanboy, and if you criticize Ron Paul in front of him then he'll start bawwwing about how Ron Paul is the only honest guy in the race, the only one who stands up for civil liberties, and how the big bad corporate media is deliberately censoring him because they're afraid of his "truths."

It's actually really fun to watch.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lithp on January 27, 2012, 01:33:24 am
Quote
if that doctor said that shit IRL, he'd be out on his ass in days.

Which is kind of stupid, if you think about it. "Theach the controversy...unless it offends me to be shown how stupid I am!"

The political cartoon with the guillotine I can see as being for OWS because it's saying that the 1% aren't learning from history.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: KZN02 on January 27, 2012, 02:26:00 am
The political cartoon with the guillotine I can see as being for OWS because it's saying that the 1% aren't learning from history.
Mainly, the French Revolution.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: N. De Plume on January 27, 2012, 04:39:51 pm
The political cartoon with the guillotine I can see as being for OWS because it's saying that the 1% aren't learning from history.
Mainly, the French Revolution.
Really?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on January 27, 2012, 05:48:30 pm
(http://i664.photobucket.com/albums/vv5/Nickiecole/glenn-beck-mccarthyism.jpg)

It's a little old, when Beck was still on the air, but it sums the right wing frame of mind
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: armandtanzarian on January 27, 2012, 09:13:47 pm
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Osama bin Bambi on January 27, 2012, 09:15:16 pm
(http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lygp20mS5s1qhxtaqo1_500.jpg)

Is this supposed to be Ann Coulter? Because I know she's a complete attention whore.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lt. Fred on January 27, 2012, 09:49:47 pm
Guv'nuh of Arizona, I think. She's a bit of a fascist Manticore, hence the state of her... state.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Smurfette Principle on January 28, 2012, 12:15:03 am
(http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lygp20mS5s1qhxtaqo1_500.jpg)

Is this supposed to be Ann Coulter? Because I know she's a complete attention whore.

Jan Brewer.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: armandtanzarian on January 28, 2012, 10:52:08 am
(http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lygp20mS5s1qhxtaqo1_500.jpg)

Is this supposed to be Ann Coulter? Because I know she's a complete attention whore.

Jan Brewer.
This is a reference to this.
http://forums.fstdt.net/politics-and-government/jan-brewer-dude-where's-my-respect/
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Captain Jack Harkness on January 28, 2012, 11:05:58 am
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/408913_300671503313159_154008447979466_787204_139925666_n.jpg)

I'd just like to mention that the pipeline was supposed to run through my state's ecologically fragile Sandhills.  Nebraska may be firetruck red, but quite a few people weren't so thrilled about the idea of the Sandhills being ruined by a leak.  Of course, Exxon ran ad campaigns trying to distill fears of this, but because this shit doesn't seem like it's gonna go anywhere, those have silently disappeared off the air.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Rabbit of Caerbannog on January 28, 2012, 12:34:37 pm
(http://www.latimes.com/media/alternatethumbnails/story/2012-01/176041700-26122008.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Rabbit of Caerbannog on January 28, 2012, 12:37:15 pm
(http://www.latimes.com/media/alternatethumbnails/story/2012-01/133044760-18224121.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Kit Walker on January 28, 2012, 03:45:29 pm
...Was the Amway/Michigan Romney connection intentional or just lucky happenstance?

For those not in the know - Mitt Romney was born in Michigan and his dad was Governor for a while. Amway is headquartered in Michigan as well. Admittedly, Amway is headquartered here in the Grand Rapids area (west side) while the Capitol is in Lansing (center-ish) and the Romneys resided in Detroit/Bloomfield Hills (east side), but still. Funsies.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Vene on January 28, 2012, 08:02:14 pm
I hate Amway so much, it's basically a legal scam.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: gyeonghwa on January 28, 2012, 09:00:15 pm
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-QM6-FFeOQ04/TyP6mh5DkQI/AAAAAAAAEPU/HeQy5zcI_4A/s400/ind+science2.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Thejebusfire on February 05, 2012, 04:11:06 pm
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lyxi32KBag1r55d2io1_500.gif)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Eniliad on February 05, 2012, 05:00:33 pm
25 to life for smoking weed? Is the artist on-

oh.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Osama bin Bambi on February 05, 2012, 08:56:08 pm
It would be a good cartoon if that guy in the background didn't look like Ron Paul.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on February 05, 2012, 08:59:43 pm
That's why I deleted it, the background guy looked too much like Ron Paul for my taste. I didn't notice it at first, than I went "oh shit I made a mistake" I'll post it again if anyone wants to see it
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/403025_3195159600420_1308851823_33294936_1366302203_n.jpg)
Even a broken watch is right sometimes
 Here's another:
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Osama bin Bambi on February 05, 2012, 09:53:38 pm
And it was the beginning of a terrible slash fiction friendship.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cataclysm on February 05, 2012, 09:58:01 pm
Eh, Ron Paul and the Paulbots are wrong on many subjects, but we can agree on some issues.

Although I do find it funny how Paul(?) is just pointing and not really doing anything to stop what is happening.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Osama bin Bambi on February 05, 2012, 11:49:01 pm
Eh, Ron Paul and the Paulbots are wrong on many subjects, but we can agree on some issues.[/quote]

A broken clock is still right twice a day
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Osama bin Bambi on February 05, 2012, 11:49:34 pm
Eh, Ron Paul and the Paulbots are wrong on many subjects, but we can agree on some issues.

A broken clock is still right twice a day.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on February 06, 2012, 06:21:31 am
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-BazQuJkkKoM/TyjNGgm0-jI/AAAAAAAADFI/NEfg4F3QUOU/s1600/532+copy.png)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Damen on February 06, 2012, 02:20:16 pm
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-BazQuJkkKoM/TyjNGgm0-jI/AAAAAAAADFI/NEfg4F3QUOU/s1600/532+copy.png)

Fuck Yeah'd for that.  ;D
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lithp on February 06, 2012, 02:34:07 pm
Fuck no'd for announcing a fuck-given.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on February 06, 2012, 08:24:51 pm
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/400318_10150538535631275_177486166274_9354013_532017886_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: N. De Plume on February 07, 2012, 09:44:16 am
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/400318_10150538535631275_177486166274_9354013_532017886_n.jpg)
Ah-Men to that!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Captain Jack Harkness on February 07, 2012, 04:17:35 pm
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/400318_10150538535631275_177486166274_9354013_532017886_n.jpg)
Ah-Men to that!

Oh come on!  Wages that people can live off of comfortably?  They're not charities! /sarcasm
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: The Right Honourable Mlle Antéchrist on February 07, 2012, 04:41:25 pm
While I agree that hoarding cash is a bad thing for a number of reasons, that comparison is rather disingenuous...
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Distind on February 07, 2012, 04:46:12 pm
While I agree that hoarding cash is a bad thing for a number of reasons, that comparison is rather disingenuous...

I rather do as well, then I start looking at some of the things done with the money and can't help but wonder if it's right anyway.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lithp on February 07, 2012, 05:01:17 pm
While I agree that hoarding cash is a bad thing for a number of reasons, that comparison is rather disingenuous...

I don't think it is. Take the example of a newspaper. One newspaper is definitely useful. Having 2-4 back issues might be good in case you feel the need to review a story. Having a small stack might be good in case you need scrap paper for something. The litterbox, a school project, what have you. But there's a certain point where you have a bunch of newspaper's you'll never possibly use, & you keep collecting more.

Likewise, with money. You need a certain amount to survive. You need a certain amount more for it to be useful. And having a healthy surplus isn't a bad thing, because of the occasional emergency or indulgence. But eventually you reach a point where its only purpose is to sit there & contribute to your net worth.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: StallChaser on February 07, 2012, 05:04:34 pm
While I agree that hoarding cash is a bad thing for a number of reasons, that comparison is rather disingenuous...

It absolutely *is* analogous.  I don't know about you, but I cry for all those poor, neglected hundred dollar bills.  I understand that the ultra rich love them a lot and aren't harming them on purpose, but with so many, it's physically impossible to give each individual $100 the love it deserves.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: The Right Honourable Mlle Antéchrist on February 07, 2012, 05:07:55 pm
I get the point they're trying to make, I'm just doing the whole "over-thinking it" thing. Newspapers & 50 cats have a negative effect on your life, while loads of money can be used to buy rocket ships and combination concentration camps/theme parks.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on February 07, 2012, 07:17:50 pm
(http://www.mattbors.com/strips/844.png)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: DiscoBerry on February 07, 2012, 07:23:09 pm
(http://www.mattbors.com/strips/844.png)

Did he actually say that shit?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: largeham on February 07, 2012, 07:31:36 pm
He did, the dirty mysognist shit. Whatever the fuck does he mean by 'honestly'? As if rape victims don't face enough shit anyway, then having to take a lie detector test to make sure they aren't being hysterical (yeah, lets chuck her in a mental asylum).
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Jack Mann on February 07, 2012, 07:32:13 pm
Did he actually say that shit?

Yep. (http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/293801/20120206/ron-paul-abortion-rape-contraception.htm)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lithp on February 07, 2012, 07:37:17 pm
Herp derp, I was so busy arguing that I forgot to ask where Nickinack's signature comes from.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Osama bin Bambi on February 07, 2012, 07:37:52 pm
http://nayzak.deviantart.com/art/Islamophobia-207639128 (http://nayzak.deviantart.com/art/Islamophobia-207639128)

Linked for size and length.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lithp on February 07, 2012, 07:43:44 pm
Umm, he actually didn't say the part about the lie detector. According to the article, he believes that it would be hard to prove an "honest rape," & so it should be taken at face value. Most likely, he simply didn't put enough thought in to come to the conclusion of a lie detector, but still, he didnt' say it.

What he DID say was that you shouldn't be eligible for an abortion if it's more than a few hours since you were impregnated.

Also, I had no idea a shot of estrogen could terminate a pregnancy.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on February 07, 2012, 07:47:12 pm
Herp derp, I was so busy arguing that I forgot to ask where Nickinack's signature comes from.
It's a joke about the Buffy, the Vampire Slayer character Willow.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Osama bin Bambi on February 07, 2012, 08:01:25 pm
Umm, he actually didn't say the part about the lie detector. According to the article, he believes that it would be hard to prove an "honest rape," & so it should be taken at face value. Most likely, he simply didn't put enough thought in to come to the conclusion of a lie detector, but still, he didnt' say it.

What he DID say was that you shouldn't be eligible for an abortion if it's more than a few hours since you were impregnated.

Also, I had no idea a shot of estrogen could terminate a pregnancy.

Whether he did or did not say it, it's hardly the worst thing to come out of his mouth.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Smurfette Principle on February 07, 2012, 08:02:22 pm
Also, I had no idea a shot of estrogen could terminate a pregnancy.

It can't.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lithp on February 07, 2012, 08:07:06 pm
That makes more sense.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cataclysm on February 07, 2012, 08:08:51 pm
http://nayzak.deviantart.com/art/Islamophobia-207639128 (http://nayzak.deviantart.com/art/Islamophobia-207639128)

Linked for size and length.

Wondered what the context of those verses were...

That was Educational too.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Osama bin Bambi on February 07, 2012, 08:09:02 pm
Synthetic estrogen, coupled with synthetic progestin, is an ingredient in oral contraceptives. It cannot prevent pregnancy by itself.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lithp on February 07, 2012, 08:30:54 pm
That thing won't load for me.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on February 07, 2012, 08:31:44 pm
http://nayzak.deviantart.com/art/Islamophobia-207639128 (http://nayzak.deviantart.com/art/Islamophobia-207639128)

Linked for size and length.

Fucking win.

@Lithp: It's essentially saying and proving that the "Islam is violent" verses are taken out of context.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lithp on February 07, 2012, 08:35:13 pm
Really? 'Cause all I see is a white square.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RavynousHunter on February 07, 2012, 08:47:58 pm
And its all done by an animated child.  Brilliant!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: N. De Plume on February 07, 2012, 10:18:15 pm
Really? 'Cause all I see is a white square.
It’s flash.


……

I still can’t get over the phrase “Honest Rape.” Seriously, man?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: TheL on February 07, 2012, 11:52:40 pm
Really? 'Cause all I see is a white square.
It’s flash.


……

I still can’t get over the phrase “Honest Rape.” Seriously, man?

If she was raped by a dishonest person, it doesn't count!

...Wow, you really can't make it sound more ridiculous and harmful than it already is.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on February 08, 2012, 07:13:24 am
Well I guess by "honest rape" he meant that the person has actually been raped compared to someone merely lying that she has been raped in order to get an abortion.

(If rape was the only legally acceptable cause for abortion then, I suppose he would still be worried that people lie about being raped to get an abortion.)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: m52nickerson on February 08, 2012, 07:41:13 am
Synthetic estrogen, coupled with synthetic progestin, is an ingredient in oral contraceptives. It cannot prevent pregnancy by itself.

At high enough levels estrogen could prevent implantation of the zygote or cause it to be aborted.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: N. De Plume on February 08, 2012, 10:00:35 am
Well I guess by "honest rape" he meant that the person has actually been raped compared to someone merely lying that she has been raped in order to get an abortion.
Yeah, that is evident from the context. But the phrase itself is ridiculous.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cataclysm on February 08, 2012, 11:34:58 am
(http://feminist.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/plan-b-cartoon-290x290.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on February 08, 2012, 12:03:12 pm
(http://feminist.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/plan-b-cartoon-290x290.jpg)
I hate pharmacists like this, they need to find another line of work.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on February 08, 2012, 11:24:36 pm
I love this guy (http://www.markfiore.com/), I've been watching his animated political cartoons for years. ;D
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Da Rat Bastid on February 09, 2012, 12:25:39 am
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c54/DragonKat/pos.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: N. De Plume on February 09, 2012, 09:16:41 am
http://www.gocomics.com/mattwuerker/2012/02/06 (http://www.gocomics.com/mattwuerker/2012/02/06)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on February 10, 2012, 08:53:59 pm
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/422041_281854668547019_150750831657404_701034_1845538462_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cataclysm on February 10, 2012, 09:26:09 pm
Not really a cartoon, and fairly old but...

(http://corporatism.tripod.com/images/drug_offenders_USA_Europe_38KB.jpg)

Also, I'm stacking all these together.

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_w_3R-gECff4/SsnvRW37SQI/AAAAAAAAIOQ/z61p1K_7qDo/s400/6.jpg)

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(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_w_3R-gECff4/SsnvSNaTfGI/AAAAAAAAIOg/Q6tWaBFH2ps/s400/8.jpg)

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(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_w_3R-gECff4/SsnvHx-7I2I/AAAAAAAAIOA/ssiZr862P0Q/s400/4.jpg)

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Osama bin Bambi on February 10, 2012, 09:31:43 pm
Okay, I gotta admit I laughed at the last two ones.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: TheL on February 11, 2012, 10:41:20 am
all three are awesome. :3
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Thejebusfire on February 11, 2012, 02:59:45 pm
Edit, freakin ninjas.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lithp on February 11, 2012, 03:15:50 pm
Well I guess by "honest rape" he meant that the person has actually been raped compared to someone merely lying that she has been raped in order to get an abortion.
Yeah, that is evident from the context. But the phrase itself is ridiculous.

You know what my problem is, honestly? It was a stupid fight to pick. He could have just said, "I believe there should be an exception for rape" & left it at that. That you have to have really been raped is sort of implied. If he didn't, then when asked how he'd determine if a rape was honest, he could have said, "Courts have a system for this, it's already taken care of." Instead, he stumbled around looking for an answer before finally admitting that he'd have to take it on faith.

So all he did was make himself look like a stupid, paranoid, indecisive asshole who has no idea how the government works. Exactly the kind of person who should be President. And it all could have been avoided. In so many ways.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Damen on February 12, 2012, 04:19:10 am
Not exactly cartoons, but I think they qualify.

(http://www.motifake.com/image/demotivational-poster/1011/perspective-depending-on-your-angle-demotivational-poster-1289436611.jpg)

(http://www.motifake.com/image/demotivational-poster/1011/international-creep-the-shit-out-of-governments-day-v-for-ve-demotivational-poster-1288962421.jpg)

(http://www.motifake.com/image/demotivational-poster/1008/we-are-legion-anonymity-guy-fawkes-liberty-orwell-and-your-m-demotivational-poster-1282157231.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cataclysm on February 12, 2012, 06:33:43 pm
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-YxIMTP31CpQ/TYbbqCo9aYI/AAAAAAAAABU/Q9necWcI67Y/s1600/or042709-small.jpg)

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3269/2681134138_c6031a8e56.jpg)

(http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT6szlFcnQ-NcBP5wTE6hPA_wGVZCTvMBTsn4KzkaAH3Tyi2qKVvmBheaT0yA)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Eniliad on February 12, 2012, 06:48:01 pm
To be honest, the Defenders of 1913 makes no sense to me. I don't know any anti-gay fundies who say those things.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on February 12, 2012, 07:18:18 pm
To be honest, the Defenders of 1913 makes no sense to me. I don't know any anti-gay fundies who say those things.

It's more so an argumentum ad absurdium(sp?), or the act of disproving someone's argument by taking it to its logically absurd conclusion.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cataclysm on February 12, 2012, 07:24:30 pm
IIRC Romney said that if this happened, Mass would become the Las Vegas of gay lovers.

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/mitt-romney-tells-cpac-i-prevented-massachusetts-from-becoming-the-las-vegas-of-gay-marriage/
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Eniliad on February 12, 2012, 09:41:43 pm
Oh, Romney, you twat.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: gyeonghwa on February 13, 2012, 09:10:14 pm
(http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/430852_10150555327621275_177486166274_9392739_1260538085_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on February 15, 2012, 12:12:12 pm
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/405794_315158691863587_135026906543434_777177_1238368134_n.jpg)
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/405374_255314911209878_134176153323755_576501_1628389037_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cataclysm on February 15, 2012, 11:59:09 pm
(http://www.cartoonstock.com/newscartoons/cartoonists/efi/lowres/efin1229l.jpg)

(http://www.goodlifer.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/universal-health-care-cartoon.jpg)

(http://0.tqn.com/d/politicalhumor/1/0/H/r/2/gop-killing-healthcare.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on February 16, 2012, 12:22:44 am
Linked for size (http://boingboing.net/2012/02/15/tom-the-dancing-bug-god-man-3.html)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RavynousHunter on February 16, 2012, 02:24:28 am
Linked for size (http://boingboing.net/2012/02/15/tom-the-dancing-bug-god-man-3.html)

MOAR.  Because win.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Eniliad on February 16, 2012, 02:27:08 am
I concur, that comic was good!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: N. De Plume on February 16, 2012, 09:50:11 am
Just goes to show what I have been saying for a long time: If God’s will can be thwarted by a thin bit of rubber, he is not very omnipotent, is he?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on February 16, 2012, 10:15:28 pm
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/424388_325053214197522_109496509086528_786755_1105801716_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: N. De Plume on February 16, 2012, 11:14:09 pm
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/422041_281854668547019_150750831657404_701034_1845538462_n.jpg)
I just gotta say, I love this one. Nothing like pointing out a bit of hypocrisy.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on February 17, 2012, 05:54:14 pm
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/423997_249912828424879_103172666432230_633867_618916799_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cataclysm on February 17, 2012, 06:29:12 pm
Found a similar one. On Town Hall to boot.

(http://media.townhall.com/Townhall/Car/b/aria_c9633720120216120100.jpg)

Although as seen with Ron Paul, both are dead ends for Republicans.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: DiscoBerry on February 17, 2012, 07:41:37 pm
(http://i937.photobucket.com/albums/ad220/mrtraffic97/tumblr_lybl80yI2A1r55d2io1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: The Right Honourable Mlle Antéchrist on February 17, 2012, 07:44:12 pm
(http://i937.photobucket.com/albums/ad220/mrtraffic97/tumblr_lybl80yI2A1r55d2io1_500.jpg)

I want to get this printed on a t-shirt.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Eniliad on February 17, 2012, 07:52:58 pm
I want to punch him. Badly.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: N. De Plume on February 17, 2012, 08:18:14 pm
I want to get this printed on a t-shirt.

So do I.


I want to punch him. Badly.

So do I.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: The Right Honourable Mlle Antéchrist on February 17, 2012, 09:35:12 pm
We can be t-shirt pals.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: N. De Plume on February 17, 2012, 11:29:15 pm
We can be t-shirt pals.
T-shirt pals? Yay! ;D
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lt. Fred on February 18, 2012, 12:08:37 am
Well I guess by "honest rape" he meant that the person has actually been raped compared to someone merely lying that she has been raped in order to get an abortion.
Yeah, that is evident from the context. But the phrase itself is ridiculous.

You know what my problem is, honestly? It was a stupid fight to pick. He could have just said, "I believe there should be an exception for rape" & left it at that. That you have to have really been raped is sort of implied.

I also think he's perpetuating the myth that large numbers of adult women pretend to have been raped. The number is in the low single percentage figures, lower than (for example) fake child rapes.

It's one of the biggest and worst myths around rape. Most rapists are not believed because of it.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Eniliad on February 18, 2012, 12:09:44 am
In Santorum's defense, he's a terrible excuse for a human being.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lt. Fred on February 18, 2012, 12:11:24 am
That's some defence.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on February 18, 2012, 10:58:31 am
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/401509_377179702310963_191552810873654_1379371_1285813181_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: DiscoBerry on February 18, 2012, 01:19:09 pm
In Santorum's defense, he's a terrible excuse for a human being.

Fuck Yeah'ed and is going to be my protest sign when he comes to town!!!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cataclysm on February 18, 2012, 02:33:16 pm
In Santorum's defense, he's a terrible excuse for a human being.

That was Ron Paul.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Auri-El on February 18, 2012, 04:21:49 pm
So, what? There can only be one terrible excuse for a human being at one time?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cataclysm on February 18, 2012, 06:27:43 pm
No, but there was no need to invoke Santorum for what Paul said.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: chad sexington on February 18, 2012, 07:18:36 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/m81IJ.jpg)
:(
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cataclysm on February 18, 2012, 07:42:19 pm
But then what will be the point of outsourcing?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: e13 on February 18, 2012, 07:44:41 pm
But then what will be the point of outsourcing?
MasterLock brought a company back here to Milwaukee. The price of shipping and other fees outdid the savings of slave labor! They even have a union now!  ;D
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on February 20, 2012, 11:41:44 am
(http://web.me.com/wardsutton/Site_2/Blank_files/droppedImage.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Meshakhad on February 20, 2012, 12:59:47 pm
Funny thing, there's actually one Lantern that is about Greed (Orange). At least according to TV Tropes.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Kit Walker on February 20, 2012, 02:24:24 pm
Funny thing, there's actually one Lantern that is about Greed (Orange). At least according to TV Tropes.

Yup. His name is Larfleeze. Uses his ring to devour the souls of anyone who seeks to steal the power from him, then turns them into constructs serving his will.

I dislike that comic, if only because I think it strays dangerously close to being anti-capitalist. Corporations aren't inherently evil, nor is profit. Nor is greed, in small doses, all bad.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: clockworkgirl21 on February 20, 2012, 05:01:38 pm
http://imgur.com/aIj2p

This is an amazing idea.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Thejebusfire on February 20, 2012, 07:20:33 pm
(http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lzpucs2oA41qexjbwo1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on February 20, 2012, 10:44:17 pm
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/426621_291529254240286_125242994202247_746435_942574606_n.jpg)

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/422005_294083977318147_125242994202247_752253_641750987_n.jpg)

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/249913_172649979461548_125242994202247_414799_3749098_n.jpg)

(http://media.timesfreepress.com/img/photos/2012/02/17/120219_Birth_Control_t618.jpg?ba5b5b122dd3d37cc13d83e92a6a0ec0d5bfa32a)

I love Clay Bennet, he's one of my favorite political cartoonists.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cataclysm on February 20, 2012, 10:51:38 pm

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/249913_172649979461548_125242994202247_414799_3749098_n.jpg)


This assumes that they are actually targeting the fly.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: The Right Honourable Mlle Antéchrist on February 20, 2012, 11:00:57 pm
(http://media.timesfreepress.com/img/photos/2012/02/17/120219_Birth_Control_t618.jpg?ba5b5b122dd3d37cc13d83e92a6a0ec0d5bfa32a)

This one literally made me laugh out loud. Well played, good sir.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on February 20, 2012, 11:03:22 pm
Bennett is my hero.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: N. De Plume on February 21, 2012, 08:22:52 am
This assumes that they are actually targeting the fly.

Well, I am pretty sure there are a few—just a few—folks that actually think fraud is a problem and ID laws are the solution.


Bennett is my hero.

Hands, off! I called him first! (http://fstdt.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=pg&thread=5734&page=154#343735)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on February 21, 2012, 10:05:05 am
This assumes that they are actually targeting the fly.

Well, I am pretty sure there are a few—just a few—folks that actually think fraud is a problem and ID laws are the solution.


Bennett is my hero.

Hands, off! I called him first! (http://fstdt.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=pg&thread=5734&page=154#343735)

How long did it take you to find that?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: N. De Plume on February 21, 2012, 10:13:48 am
About a minute. Only that long because my first Google search turned up an error page.

(see: site:fstdt.proboards.com Bennet "N. De Plume")
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Damen on February 21, 2012, 10:17:59 am
(http://www.motifake.com/image/demotivational-poster/1202/eye-of-the-beholder-life-demotivational-posters-1328683894.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Eniliad on February 21, 2012, 02:00:12 pm
Incidentally, you really don't want to look into the eye of the Beholder.

(D&D ref off the port bow!)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Meshakhad on February 21, 2012, 02:06:33 pm
Incidentally, you really don't want to look into the eye of the Beholder.

(D&D ref off the port bow!)

Why? All it does is create an antimagic field. Last time I checked, none of us were spellcasters.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: N. De Plume on February 21, 2012, 02:16:41 pm
Incidentally, you really don't want to look into the eye of the Beholder.

(D&D ref off the port bow!)

Why? All it does is create an antimagic field. Last time I checked, none of us were spellcasters.

He never specified which eye. I was lucky, I only got hit by the charm monster eye. Now, we’re bestest friends!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: gyeonghwa on February 21, 2012, 03:12:04 pm

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/422005_294083977318147_125242994202247_752253_641750987_n.jpg)


Heh. If we're going to returns to 1950's value are we also going to go back to 1950's tax rates?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on February 21, 2012, 03:22:55 pm
(http://media.timesfreepress.com/img/photos/2012/02/20/120221_The_Candidate_t618.jpg?ba5b5b122dd3d37cc13d83e92a6a0ec0d5bfa32a)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Servo on February 22, 2012, 01:27:58 am
(http://images1.dailykos.com/i/user/2722/TMW2012-02-22colorlowre1.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: CaseAgainstFaith on February 22, 2012, 11:42:44 am
(http://i.imgur.com/Nv5wj.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on February 22, 2012, 06:38:56 pm
(http://media.caglecartoons.com/media/cartoons/46/2012/02/17/106582_600.jpg)

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/427402_388453804501712_236565153023912_1606084_1374924481_n.jpg)

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/424299_10150623251829264_247763399263_8732972_1139192521_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Quasirodent on February 22, 2012, 08:17:22 pm

(http://media.timesfreepress.com/img/photos/2012/02/17/120219_Birth_Control_t618.jpg?ba5b5b122dd3d37cc13d83e92a6a0ec0d5bfa32a)

I love Clay Bennet, he's one of my favorite political cartoonists.

I feel like a derp for asking, but could someone explain this to me?  I feel like I'm missing something.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Smurfette Principle on February 22, 2012, 10:01:05 pm
It's a child's game. The first half asks "where are the people?" because your fingers are on the outside, then you put your fingers inside and do it again, and then it's "and see all the people."

(http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lzt1jxa4LH1qguulqo1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on February 22, 2012, 10:37:18 pm
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/419279_174722269306684_137242293054682_255856_1460494646_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Quasirodent on February 22, 2012, 10:45:08 pm
It's a child's game. The first half asks "where are the people?" because your fingers are on the outside, then you put your fingers inside and do it again, and then it's "and see all the people."

Yeah, I get that, but I don't get how the condom is a joke.  All I can think is something like... there's no people in the church now because contraception prevented them from being born?  The people are covered in condoms?  The people ARE condoms??
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on February 22, 2012, 11:00:01 pm
It's that most people support some form of birth control, there's a poll out there that 98% of Catholics polled support birth control, while the church itself doesn't.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on February 23, 2012, 03:21:17 am
It's a child's game. The first half asks "where are the people?" because your fingers are on the outside, then you put your fingers inside and do it again, and then it's "and see all the people."

Yeah, I get that, but I don't get how the condom is a joke.  All I can think is something like... there's no people in the church now because contraception prevented them from being born?  The people are covered in condoms?  The people ARE condoms??

Look at the labels in the wrists. Right hand represents those who support birth control, left hand represents those who oppose it. The point of the comic is that even those who openly oppose birth control are in fact using it. (Both hands are holding the condom.)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on February 23, 2012, 09:40:00 pm
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/422731_10150636595872722_281168802721_8999708_741198722_n.jpg)

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/427650_216175051813800_186772694754036_370042_1181368407_n.jpg)

(http://media.timesfreepress.com/img/photos/2012/02/22/120223_The_Flagellant_t618.jpg?ba5b5b122dd3d37cc13d83e92a6a0ec0d5bfa32a)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Osama bin Bambi on February 23, 2012, 11:45:34 pm
(http://media.timesfreepress.com/img/photos/2012/02/22/120223_The_Flagellant_t618.jpg?ba5b5b122dd3d37cc13d83e92a6a0ec0d5bfa32a)

(http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/048/957/megusta.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on February 24, 2012, 12:21:59 am
I misread flagellant as flatulent. Many lulz were had.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: gyeonghwa on February 24, 2012, 02:21:34 pm
(http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/422412_395318283827568_122256581133741_1528170_1110621188_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on February 24, 2012, 03:15:28 pm
(http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/422412_395318283827568_122256581133741_1528170_1110621188_n.jpg)

:) :) :)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: ironbite on February 24, 2012, 05:33:53 pm
(http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/422412_395318283827568_122256581133741_1528170_1110621188_n.jpg)

My god...IT'S WORSE THEN I THOUGHT!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Kit Walker on February 24, 2012, 07:54:23 pm
Well I can't support that agenda. Fuck Jay Leno. Conan's funnier and has performed a gay wedding.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Thejebusfire on February 26, 2012, 02:49:06 pm
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lzxeh8s7a51qg1s1bo1_500.jpg)

(http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lzww42gY3S1qf2n53o1_500.jpg)

(http://www.tumblr.com/photo/1280/alienxs/9376928684/4/tumblr_lqhqrom48U1qa4z8c)

(http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lk6vt0JYei1qzuuqho1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: N. De Plume on February 26, 2012, 04:24:00 pm
I think there are plenty of right-wingers that will take that Santorum one seriously.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cataclysm on February 26, 2012, 07:00:29 pm
Maybe Santorum himself.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on February 26, 2012, 11:07:09 pm
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/424414_10150817453404968_149612289967_12581817_957094210_n.jpg)

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/417186_10150580549596275_177486166274_9463441_1265030735_n.jpg)

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/424943_10150580770211275_177486166274_9463939_915229169_n.jpg)

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/422339_322116164501173_135026906543434_791995_376921372_n.jpg)

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/47532_501183374967_149612289967_7147107_5076980_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cerim Treascair on February 27, 2012, 01:41:15 am
I thoroughly disagree with the race baiting seeds also using the tao.  That doesn't make a lick of sense, in context.  The tao is all about ACTUAL balance, not what Fox claims it is.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on February 27, 2012, 05:25:36 am
I thoroughly disagree with the race baiting seeds also using the tao.  That doesn't make a lick of sense, in context.  The tao is all about ACTUAL balance, not what Fox claims it is.

I think that's the joke...

They use race-baiting, yet claim to be fair and balanced. Hence, they are putting a 'truly balanced' sticker on to something obviously not fair and balanced.

I could be reading it wrong and being dumb, however.

I read it how Miles did.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: e13 on February 27, 2012, 09:09:25 am
I thoroughly disagree with the race baiting seeds also using the tao.  That doesn't make a lick of sense, in context.  The tao is all about ACTUAL balance, not what Fox claims it is.

I think that's the joke...

They use race-baiting, yet claim to be fair and balanced. Hence, they are putting a 'truly balanced' sticker on to something obviously not fair and balanced.

I could be reading it wrong and being dumb, however.

I read it how Miles did.
I assumed I'd missed something in the news about Fox going after taoists... >_>
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Sandafluffoid on February 27, 2012, 11:07:17 am
I thoroughly disagree with the race baiting seeds also using the tao.  That doesn't make a lick of sense, in context.  The tao is all about ACTUAL balance, not what Fox claims it is.
Small nitpick but the symbol is actually called the taijitu (太极图/太極圖), meaning something roughly like the 'image of ultimate power'. It was created by the neo-confucian philosopher Zhou Dunyi some 1500 years after Laozi described tao (dao in modern romanization and 道 in hanzi) in the terms that would form the approximate base of the nightmarish collocation of philosophies and religious practices which get lumped under the vague grouping of 'daoism'.

The original concept behind the taijitu would probably be better described as an aspect of traditional Chinese world view since it rather overlapped with pretty much every Chinese school of thought at the time, and was not specifically daoist at all.

(http://files.sharenator.com/the_more_you_know2_My_Brain_its_melting-s549x362-109558-580.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on February 27, 2012, 11:56:18 pm
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/426175_312378948817236_102702636451536_845161_1793055924_n.jpg)

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/419863_374184069276507_196601040368145_1412509_930608563_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on February 28, 2012, 02:56:56 am
I am horribly amused at the idea of Santorum having his name stitched onto his own butt.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Osama bin Bambi on February 28, 2012, 05:19:00 pm
I am horribly amused at the idea of Santorum having his name stitched onto his own butt.

Remember those hot pants that girls used to wear that had slogans stitched on their asses?

Also:

(http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/8857/tumblrlvtbu8xhcj1qzky2h.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Kit Walker on February 28, 2012, 09:13:08 pm
While the "It Gets Better" project does probably lack some class awareness...what's the alternative? "If you're poor, black or hispanic, urban, and gay, it never gets better so just swallow a gun right now before it gets worse"?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on February 28, 2012, 09:14:03 pm
While the "It Gets Better" project does probably lack some class awareness...what's the alternative? "If you're poor, black or hispanic, urban, and gay, it never gets better so just swallow a gun right now before it gets worse"?

Swing and a miss!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Kit Walker on February 28, 2012, 09:18:33 pm
Swing and a miss!

No, really. The cartoon is criticizing the program for telling gay kids "hey, don't kill yourself, life gets better, here's my story to prove it" because it doesn't apply to anyone but white upper class males. Which might be true, but it doesn't render the overall message ("no matter how bad it is right now, your life can always get better") false. Maybe I'm reading it wrong, if so tell me.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on February 28, 2012, 09:19:48 pm
Swing and a miss!

No, really. The cartoon is criticizing the program for telling gay kids "hey, don't kill yourself, life gets better, here's my story to prove it" because it doesn't apply to white upper class males. Which might be true, but it doesn't render the overall message ("no matter how bad it is right now, your life can always get better") false. Maybe I'm reading it wrong, if so tell me.

Other way around. According to Dan Savage, only white gay males get to be told it gets better. Hence 0 class awareness. He doesn't give a fuck about transpeople or black lesbians, or hispanic bisexuals.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Kit Walker on February 28, 2012, 09:27:32 pm
Other way around. According to Dan Savage, only white gay males get to be told it gets better. Hence 0 class awareness. He doesn't give a fuck about transpeople or black lesbians, or hispanic bisexuals.

Sorry, I edited it to say "anyone but" after I posted it - I'm not a total idiot. Isn't the content for the project mostly user generated though? Would he turn away a video from a black lesbian or a transperson or a Hispanic bisexual?  If yes, he would actively suppress videos from those groups, the the cartoon is spot on and I withdraw my complaint. If no, he wouldn't turn away videos from those folks if they were submitted, then we get into the secondary class issue of these being primarily youtube videos made by people with access to webcams and quality internet connections- which would be more likely be people lower middle class or higher, frequently white people. And people who don't hate Dan Savage (for any number of the valid reasons), which might cut out people like lesbians, bisexuals, and transpeople.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cataclysm on February 28, 2012, 09:28:19 pm
Swing and a miss!

No, really. The cartoon is criticizing the program for telling gay kids "hey, don't kill yourself, life gets better, here's my story to prove it" because it doesn't apply to white upper class males. Which might be true, but it doesn't render the overall message ("no matter how bad it is right now, your life can always get better") false. Maybe I'm reading it wrong, if so tell me.

Other way around. According to Dan Savage, only white gay males get to be told it gets better. Hence 0 class awareness. He doesn't give a fuck about transpeople or black lesbians, or hispanic bisexuals.

Holy crap! Where did he say that?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on February 28, 2012, 09:30:18 pm
Other way around. According to Dan Savage, only white gay males get to be told it gets better. Hence 0 class awareness. He doesn't give a fuck about transpeople or black lesbians, or hispanic bisexuals.

Sorry, I edited it to say "anyone but" after I posted it - I'm not a total idiot. Isn't the content for the project mostly user generated though? Would he turn away a video from a black lesbian or a transperson or a Hispanic bisexual?  If yes, he would actively suppress videos from those groups, the the cartoon is spot on and I withdraw my complaint. If no, he wouldn't turn away videos from those folks if they were submitted, then we get into the secondary class issue of these being primarily youtube videos made by people with access to webcams and quality internet connections.

Perhaps, but the comic is deriding the maker (Dan Savage) and how the maker views the project.

Swing and a miss!

No, really. The cartoon is criticizing the program for telling gay kids "hey, don't kill yourself, life gets better, here's my story to prove it" because it doesn't apply to white upper class males. Which might be true, but it doesn't render the overall message ("no matter how bad it is right now, your life can always get better") false. Maybe I'm reading it wrong, if so tell me.

Other way around. According to Dan Savage, only white gay males get to be told it gets better. Hence 0 class awareness. He doesn't give a fuck about transpeople or black lesbians, or hispanic bisexuals.

Holy crap! Where did he say that?

You can find various examples here with sources. (http://fucknodansavage.tumblr.com/)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Osama bin Bambi on February 28, 2012, 09:34:22 pm
Not to mention that the implication of the message is basically, "You have to stick this out." It's a violent reassignment of guilt. And yeah, maybe your mom did come around to accept you for who you are eventually, but what actually matters is if she does not love you now, when you are at a vulnerable time in your life.

The fact of the matter is that it does not get better for many people, especially the poor, minorities, and transpeople. The latter has a suicide rate three times higher than the rest of the population. Dan Savage is treating anti-LGBT bullying as "Oh, well as soon as you get out of college you can just grow up, move to Seattle, take a trip to Paris, and adopt a baby! It's just so simple!" No, no it's not.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on February 28, 2012, 10:57:36 pm
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ltfv5gvJ7w1qbqiluo1_400.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: The Right Honourable Mlle Antéchrist on February 28, 2012, 11:28:34 pm
That's kind of a narrow definition of racism. Systematic racism vs incidental racism would be more accurate. Still, the image makes a very good point about oppression.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Sandafluffoid on February 29, 2012, 05:46:57 am
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ltfv5gvJ7w1qbqiluo1_400.jpg)
Whilst I do get annoyed at people who talk about anti-white prejudice or racism or whatsoever you wish to call it in the same terms as they do the more severe socio-culturally reinforced forms of racism that PoCs encounter on a daily basis, I am not sure I can get behind a poster which just wilfully throws semantics out the window. The power dynamic is important and makes anti PoC racism a far more serious issue, but that just isn't what the word 'racism' means.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Nightmare172 on February 29, 2012, 09:43:08 am
I can't say I can get behind that poster either. Even if semantically its just prejudice, it's still wrong.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Damen on February 29, 2012, 10:23:24 am
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ltfv5gvJ7w1qbqiluo1_400.jpg)

While I agree that whites are not oppressed, that poster is still lying.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/racism (http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/racism)
Quote
rac·ism
noun \ˈrā-ˌsi-zəm also -ˌshi-\
Definition of RACISM
1: a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race
2: racial prejudice or discrimination

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Racism (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Racism)
Quote
racism
[rey-siz-uhm]
rac·ism
   [rey-siz-uhm]
noun
1. a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races  determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race  is superior and has the right to rule others.
2. a policy, system of government, etc., based upon or fostering such a doctrine; discrimination.
3. hatred or intolerance of another race  or other races.

If you believe only whites can be racist and no one else, I've got a bridge to sell you.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on February 29, 2012, 11:56:30 am
Not sure if this belongs here or in Funny Pictures, but considering that the picture is of Santorum, I think this works. Will move if asked.

(http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/s720x720/407498_10150681078796488_601321487_11719523_1215014272_n.jpg)

Whilst the mosaic contains NSFW content, it's too low-res to actually be NSFW.
I've seen this, the Rick Santorum pic made up of gay porn, all I have to say is
(http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lfi03wHdlo1qbvc38o1_500.png)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on February 29, 2012, 12:30:15 pm
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/404955_10150571586967108_552847107_9401377_462707736_n.jpg)
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/425103_374294392581545_114517875225866_1418234_538263218_n.jpg)

(http://media.timesfreepress.com/img/photos/2012/02/27/120228_Brainwashing_t618.jpg?ba5b5b122dd3d37cc13d83e92a6a0ec0d5bfa32a)

(http://media.timesfreepress.com/img/photos/2012/02/24/120226_Political_Science_t618.jpg?ba5b5b122dd3d37cc13d83e92a6a0ec0d5bfa32a)

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/429210_396869077005276_108038612554992_1529671_736237932_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: QueenofHearts on February 29, 2012, 12:48:16 pm

(http://media.timesfreepress.com/img/photos/2012/02/24/120226_Political_Science_t618.jpg?ba5b5b122dd3d37cc13d83e92a6a0ec0d5bfa32a)

This reminds me of a quote from (IIRC) Ann Tickner where she quotes an exchange between a reporter and a Polish representative in (again, IIRC) the early 90's. The Polish conservative party had just won parliament due to voter dissatisfaction with the economy, a point the conservative party ran on by promising to "get the economy back on track." Several months into their rule, they had passed several laws restricting abortion but not one dealing with the economy (112th Congress, anyone?). The following dialogue is between a reporter and one of the conservative legislators.

Reporter: Your party ran for election and won on the message that you would fix the economy, so why all the focus on abortion.

Legislator: The economy's a very complex subject with no real easy answer. There are a multide of actor's we can't control. We can, however, control abortion.

Again, this is all based on memory from almost a year ago so the dialogue may not be verbatim, but I think it pertains to the cartoon.

EDIT: Upon looking through my school notes, I believe I attributed it to the wrong person. I believe Marysia Zalewski made this point in International Affairs (1995) in an article "Well, What is the Feminist Perspective on Bosnia." Sadly, I'm unable to find the article online, so  :(
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on February 29, 2012, 08:19:42 pm
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ltfv5gvJ7w1qbqiluo1_400.jpg)

While I agree that whites are not oppressed, that poster is still lying.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/racism (http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/racism)
Quote
rac·ism
noun \ˈrā-ˌsi-zəm also -ˌshi-\
Definition of RACISM
1: a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race
2: racial prejudice or discrimination

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Racism (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Racism)
Quote
racism
[rey-siz-uhm]
rac·ism
   [rey-siz-uhm]
noun
1. a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races  determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race  is superior and has the right to rule others.
2. a policy, system of government, etc., based upon or fostering such a doctrine; discrimination.
3. hatred or intolerance of another race  or other races.

If you believe only whites can be racist and no one else, I've got a bridge to sell you.

Check the STFUracists tumblr for a broader explanation as to why the poster is both right and wrong.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: TheL on February 29, 2012, 08:40:26 pm
Dan Savage is treating anti-LGBT bullying as "Oh, well as soon as you get out of college you can just grow up, move to Seattle, take a trip to Paris, and adopt a baby! It's just so simple!" No, no it's not.

I never got that vibe at all.  The campaign was in response to gay teen suicides that were in the news about the time it started.  At the time, Dan basically said, "We need to do something to reassure gay teens who are committing suicide so that they don't do it.  High school is a really rough time for anybody, especially suicidal teens, and we need to remind them that there's a light at the end of the tunnel.  Also, gay kids tend not to have a lot of adult gay role models, and thus may not be able to see themselves as gay adults.  If you have something to shoot for, you're less likely to off yourself."


I didn't know about the biphobic, transphobic, racist aspect though.  That's pretty fucked up.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cataclysm on February 29, 2012, 11:22:02 pm
(http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/200086_153270171399529_125242994202247_296572_5663192_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: The Right Honourable Mlle Antéchrist on March 01, 2012, 12:06:24 am
Quote
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ltfv5gvJ7w1qbqiluo1_400.jpg)

This isn't a criticism so much as an idle thought, but I've never been terribly fond of the term "people of colour".
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cataclysm on March 01, 2012, 12:07:35 am
Reminds me of this poem.

When I born, I black.
When I grow up, I black.
When I go in sun, I black.
When I scared, I black.
When I sick, I black.
And when I die, I still black.


And you white people.
When you born, you pink.
When you grow up, you white.
When you go in sun, you red.
When you cold, you blue.
When you scared, you yellow.
When you sick, you green
And when you die, you grey…

And you calling me colored??
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: The Right Honourable Mlle Antéchrist on March 01, 2012, 12:15:35 am
The thing I don't like about that poem is that it still keeps the focus on skin colour, maintaining the "us vs them" status quo. If the message was more along the lines of "you're coloured too" instead of "I'm less coloured than you", I'd be down with it, but as it stands, the undercurrents of hostility feel very counterproductive.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: N. De Plume on March 01, 2012, 07:01:05 am
The thing I don't like about that poem is that it still keeps the focus on skin colour, maintaining the "us vs them" status quo. If the message was more along the lines of "you're coloured too" instead of "I'm less coloured than you", I'd be down with it, but as it stands, the undercurrents of hostility feel very counterproductive.

Same here. We are all people, people. Sure, some of us have it better than others for very stupid reasons. But as long as we keep on putting up divisions, we can never solve that.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ranger_Joe on March 01, 2012, 03:24:55 pm
The thing I don't like about that poem is that it still keeps the focus on skin colour, maintaining the "us vs them" status quo. If the message was more along the lines of "you're coloured too" instead of "I'm less coloured than you", I'd be down with it, but as it stands, the undercurrents of hostility feel very counterproductive.

Same here. We are all people, people. Sure, some of us have it better than others for very stupid reasons. But as long as we keep on putting up divisions, we can never solve that.

No matter what color you are, everyone bleeds the same color and has the same insides.

SOURCE: Personal Experience in the US Army
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Da Rat Bastid on March 02, 2012, 08:55:46 am
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h321/SabrinaTheInkWitch/91513e09.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Captain Jack Harkness on March 02, 2012, 11:47:49 am
You know, I'm more bothered by the fact that the anti-abortion crowd thinks that people just go and have abortions like it's a trip to the fucking spa after an drug-filled orgy.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Mechtaur on March 02, 2012, 11:48:48 am
So, does that mean she is a hooker and in the slave trade?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: rtvc2012 on March 02, 2012, 11:59:48 am
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/404955_10150571586967108_552847107_9401377_462707736_n.jpg)
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/425103_374294392581545_114517875225866_1418234_538263218_n.jpg)

(http://media.timesfreepress.com/img/photos/2012/02/27/120228_Brainwashing_t618.jpg?ba5b5b122dd3d37cc13d83e92a6a0ec0d5bfa32a)

(http://media.timesfreepress.com/img/photos/2012/02/24/120226_Political_Science_t618.jpg?ba5b5b122dd3d37cc13d83e92a6a0ec0d5bfa32a)

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/429210_396869077005276_108038612554992_1529671_736237932_n.jpg)
Let me add to the last one:
Anti-American = anti-Republican
Muslim/Kenyan = n****r
Communist/socialist = anyone to the left of Eric Cartman
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Da Rat Bastid on March 02, 2012, 12:39:44 pm
So, does that mean she is a hooker and in the slave trade?

I don't care.  I'm just happy to see those two Republitards going into full-on panic mode. :P
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on March 02, 2012, 01:08:41 pm
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/417175_338233056221552_284438941600964_997530_105883509_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Damen on March 02, 2012, 01:41:55 pm
Reminds me of this poem.

When I born, I black.
When I grow up, I black.
When I go in sun, I black.
When I scared, I black.
When I sick, I black.
And when I die, I still black.


And you white people.
When you born, you pink.
When you grow up, you white.
When you go in sun, you red.
When you cold, you blue.
When you scared, you yellow.
When you sick, you green
And when you die, you grey…

And you calling me colored??

And when I grew up I had a comprehensive grasp of the English language.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: SpaceProg on March 02, 2012, 02:13:10 pm
I think that may have been written back in the pseudo-ancient times when every black talked like Uncle Remus.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RavynousHunter on March 02, 2012, 03:34:18 pm
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/417175_338233056221552_284438941600964_997530_105883509_n.jpg)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpSoEIN18WI
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cataclysm on March 02, 2012, 05:28:34 pm
(http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/221809_10150181700361545_23790541544_7079846_7997608_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: The Right Honourable Mlle Antéchrist on March 02, 2012, 10:59:48 pm
I think that may have been written back in the pseudo-ancient times when every black talked like Uncle Remus.

As I recall, different forms of it have been around since at least the early 19th century, possibly earlier, though I could be wrong. I've seen updated versions with proper grammar.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on March 02, 2012, 11:18:53 pm
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/432211_361118090577564_113544412001601_1156445_6580153_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Servo on March 03, 2012, 07:08:26 am
(http://images1.dailykos.com/i/user/310373/852.png)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lt. Fred on March 03, 2012, 05:11:28 pm
Why would Anne Frank stay 15?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: The Right Honourable Mlle Antéchrist on March 03, 2012, 05:15:11 pm
Through the magic of L'oreal's Revitalift 2 in 1 Cleanser.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on March 03, 2012, 06:18:05 pm
And there goes my drink ALL over my keyboard.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lt. Fred on March 03, 2012, 07:39:39 pm
Through the magic of L'oreal's Revitalift 2 in 1 Cleanser.

Well played.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Damen on March 03, 2012, 08:32:02 pm
Through the magic of L'oreal's Revitalift 2 in 1 Cleanser.

(http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lltzgnHi5F1qzib3wo1_400.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Captain Jack Harkness on March 03, 2012, 10:43:00 pm
Why would Anne Frank stay 15?

Because religious logic.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on March 03, 2012, 10:53:30 pm
Perhaps people don't age in Mormon heaven?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on March 03, 2012, 10:59:48 pm
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/426571_10150565426196780_505906779_9133085_372006994_n.jpg)
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/419287_377459758948938_196601040368145_1422203_1569023608_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Osama bin Bambi on March 03, 2012, 11:00:20 pm
Well, once you die your body doesn't age anymore... also eternal youth. So I can sort of see where they're coming from.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Auri-El on March 04, 2012, 09:00:20 am
By that logic, infants would always be infants. What fun would it be to be in heaven and be six weeks old forever? No, I think they haven't thought that through.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: D Laurier on March 04, 2012, 10:43:13 am
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/404955_10150571586967108_552847107_9401377_462707736_n.jpg)

I want this on a t-shirt
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: D Laurier on March 04, 2012, 10:47:50 am
The thing I don't like about that poem is that it still keeps the focus on skin colour, maintaining the "us vs them" status quo. If the message was more along the lines of "you're coloured too" instead of "I'm less coloured than you", I'd be down with it, but as it stands, the undercurrents of hostility feel very counterproductive.
We are all brown.
In summer we are all a slightly darker shade of brown.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: D Laurier on March 04, 2012, 11:58:04 am
(http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lxavu6xcV31r55d2io1_500.jpg)

I want this on a t-shirt too
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on March 04, 2012, 12:28:00 pm
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/428059_259918074091021_103172666432230_659699_1913134533_n.jpg)

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/426607_401819166502144_259184544098941_1750554_1821277691_n.jpg)

(http://culturewarclasswar.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/peasants-for-plutocracy-by-michael-dal-cerro2_thumb.jpg?w=590&h=456)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: gyeonghwa on March 04, 2012, 12:37:16 pm
(http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/423070_372559036095750_107699875915002_1381358_551853765_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: QueenofHearts on March 04, 2012, 12:44:27 pm
(http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/423070_372559036095750_107699875915002_1381358_551853765_n.jpg)

More of a reason to hate my state :(
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cataclysm on March 04, 2012, 01:59:41 pm
To see more pictures:

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10150720349477642.471133.48762312641&type=3
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Sixth Monarchist on March 04, 2012, 02:32:39 pm
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/426571_10150565426196780_505906779_9133085_372006994_n.jpg)

Genuinely very hard without the answers. Also, is it just me, or is Mr. Burns actually to the left of Romney on the basis of these statements?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on March 04, 2012, 05:56:39 pm
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/426571_10150565426196780_505906779_9133085_372006994_n.jpg)

Genuinely very hard without the answers. Also, is it just me, or is Mr. Burns actually to the left of Romney on the basis of these statements?

Probably because Mr. Burns is more of the comedic villain that occasionally does something right.

It's kinda hard to be to the right of Santorum without veering into Godwin territory.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cataclysm on March 04, 2012, 06:17:25 pm
(http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/417062_263224197090183_100002078133160_569938_1856370843_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on March 04, 2012, 08:56:43 pm
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/430240_377084448969206_63434006_n.jpg)

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/429196_378331892195058_196601040368145_1425232_434923770_n.jpg)

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/430387_10150714310771159_195858376158_11552700_244353795_n.jpg)

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/423881_334694493233394_109496509086528_810119_38335434_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: e13 on March 04, 2012, 09:20:21 pm
The thing I don't like about that poem is that it still keeps the focus on skin colour, maintaining the "us vs them" status quo. If the message was more along the lines of "you're coloured too" instead of "I'm less coloured than you", I'd be down with it, but as it stands, the undercurrents of hostility feel very counterproductive.
We are all brown.
In summer we are all a slightly darker shade of brown.
Tell that to the people who go from white to red. And albinos. :p
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cataclysm on March 04, 2012, 10:40:50 pm
(http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/417335_2850145808644_1109432743_32167240_493189507_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Her3tiK on March 04, 2012, 10:59:12 pm
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/426571_10150565426196780_505906779_9133085_372006994_n.jpg)

Genuinely very hard without the answers. Also, is it just me, or is Mr. Burns actually to the left of Romney on the basis of these statements?

Probably because Mr. Burns is more of the comedic villain that occasionally does something right.

It's kinda hard to be to the right of Santorum without veering into Godwin territory.
This is fucking epic.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Da Rat Bastid on March 04, 2012, 11:00:26 pm
(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h321/SabrinaTheInkWitch/32f4d044-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on March 04, 2012, 11:49:20 pm
(http://thepoliticalcarnival.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/breitbartcar.jpg)

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/421628_378420842186163_196601040368145_1425450_1509144299_n.jpg)
You know I've always loved this photo of Lousie Brooks (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louise_Brooks), now I love it even more.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: SpaceProg on March 05, 2012, 12:48:26 am
Mmm... Sexy. :)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cataclysm on March 05, 2012, 01:19:21 am
Is it ironic that elephants live in matriarchal societies?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: SpaceProg on March 05, 2012, 01:55:00 am
Yeah, come to think of it.  Elephants are also quite intelligent and value their young, and aged, and respect their dying, and dead.  Hmmmmm...
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: chad sexington on March 05, 2012, 03:38:28 am
Are we allowed to post parody comics in here?

This is one of my favourites:
(http://i50.tinypic.com/2hrldlw.png)

(Commentary on Obama's visit to China a year or two back)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on March 05, 2012, 07:00:46 am
Seeing that made me want to hurt something O_o
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Podkayne on March 05, 2012, 09:33:22 am
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-yO177iU7eAI/TzTXvAypJgI/AAAAAAAAD3M/sThBWCPuEpI/s320/Lenin+Cat.jpg)

(http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/225/437/we-can-do-it.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Yla on March 05, 2012, 10:00:40 am
Using Leia as a model would fit other kinds of propaganda posters better. In this stance, she just looks weird.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Podkayne on March 05, 2012, 10:05:11 am
eh, I liked it.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Da Rat Bastid on March 05, 2012, 10:16:40 am
She doesn't look that bad in the poster, Yla. :)

Also, I like the one with...Lenin-cat, is it?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on March 05, 2012, 11:02:16 am
I love Star Wars Propaganda posters, they're always full of win
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Yla on March 05, 2012, 11:09:33 am
Until the recent renovation, there was an ancient sticker at the wall in the toilets at my university, quoting Karl Marx's "The philosophers have only interpreted the world. The point, however, is to change it.", Leia with an E-11 in hand next to it. It was awesome.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on March 05, 2012, 11:25:40 am
(http://media.timesfreepress.com/img/photos/2012/03/02/120304_Limbaugh_t618.jpg?ba5b5b122dd3d37cc13d83e92a6a0ec0d5bfa32a)

(http://www.latimes.com/media/photo/2012-03/92053160-04224900.jpg)

(http://www.nationalconfidential.com/images/2012/03/new-yorker-santorum-romney.jpg)

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/426144_10150597046001275_177486166274_9526644_1129054677_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Smurfette Principle on March 05, 2012, 01:14:01 pm
(http://www.nationalconfidential.com/images/2012/03/new-yorker-santorum-romney.jpg)

This one gets funnier when you realize what the dog did on the roof...
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Damen on March 05, 2012, 01:14:35 pm
Explain?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Podkayne on March 05, 2012, 01:25:29 pm

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/426144_10150597046001275_177486166274_9526644_1129054677_n.jpg)
(http://static.someecards.com/someecards/usercards/1330742600704_8616401.png)
(http://cdn.someecards.com/someecards/filestorage/snooki-pregnant-jersey-shore-baby-ecards-someecards.png)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on March 05, 2012, 01:25:53 pm
Explain?
Basically his dog's shit creaped down the back of his windshield
See Romney I know this might seem too advanced and elitist but when you take your dog on trips put him in the trunk if it's a station wagon or van. 
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: The Prophet Mohammed (PBUM) on March 05, 2012, 01:41:15 pm
(http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg600/scaled.php?server=600&filename=horseyracismgrows1t470.jpg&res=medium)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: D Laurier on March 05, 2012, 01:49:44 pm
(http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/423070_372559036095750_107699875915002_1381358_551853765_n.jpg)

More of a reason to hate my state :(

Looks a lot like Harper's dream for Canada
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on March 05, 2012, 03:33:19 pm
(http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg600/scaled.php?server=600&filename=horseyracismgrows1t470.jpg&res=medium)

Wow, it's like...

Jetsons meets Fifth Element.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cataclysm on March 05, 2012, 03:52:35 pm
Eh, i'm more optimistic and think that most our prejudices will go away.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: SimSim on March 05, 2012, 06:40:43 pm
(http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/417335_2850145808644_1109432743_32167240_493189507_n.jpg)
I get the point of this, and I agree with it, but it's incorrect about the free healthcare. Members of Congress, like all Federal employees, do have tax payer subsidized health insurance. But they also have to pay a portion of the insurance out of their paycheck.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cataclysm on March 05, 2012, 09:34:00 pm
(http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/421792_10150595629371275_177486166274_9519179_1012771238_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Smurfette Principle on March 05, 2012, 09:41:53 pm
-snip-
I get the point of this, and I agree with it, but it's incorrect about the free healthcare. Members of Congress, like all Federal employees, do have tax payer subsidized health insurance. But they also have to pay a portion of the insurance out of their paycheck.

Their paycheck... that they get from tax payer money.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Da Rat Bastid on March 06, 2012, 12:35:41 pm
Not a cartoon, but still awesome:

(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h321/SabrinaTheInkWitch/7dcf9115.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Kit Walker on March 06, 2012, 04:07:55 pm
Their paycheck... that they get from tax payer money.

The same of which could be said for teachers, firefighters, police officers, etc. It isn't tax payer money once it goes into their paycheck, it's their money.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: SimSim on March 06, 2012, 06:12:16 pm
-snip-
I get the point of this, and I agree with it, but it's incorrect about the free healthcare. Members of Congress, like all Federal employees, do have tax payer subsidized health insurance. But they also have to pay a portion of the insurance out of their paycheck.

Their paycheck... that they get from tax payer money.
Yes, but once your paid it's your money. Since it's deducted from their paychecks it's not free.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Osama bin Bambi on March 06, 2012, 06:16:10 pm
Not a cartoon, but still awesome:

(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h321/SabrinaTheInkWitch/7dcf9115.jpg)

"I'm being persecuted by feminazi radicals!" /limbaugh
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on March 06, 2012, 06:49:46 pm
(http://thismodernworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/TMW2012-02-29colorlowres.jpg)

(http://media.caglecartoons.com/media/cartoons/35/2012/03/06/107613_600.jpg)

(http://media.caglecartoons.com/media/cartoons/46/2012/03/05/107586_600.jpg)

(http://media.caglecartoons.com/media/cartoons/98/2012/03/05/107554_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: The Right Honourable Mlle Antéchrist on March 06, 2012, 07:05:22 pm
(http://media.caglecartoons.com/media/cartoons/35/2012/03/06/107613_600.jpg)

You know, there's something I've always wondered about Pinocchio: If he were to verbalize a paradox ("This sentence is false.", etc.), would his nose rapidly grow and shrink over and over again?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: ironbite on March 06, 2012, 07:09:13 pm
I've seen that porno once.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: gyeonghwa on March 06, 2012, 07:57:55 pm
(http://media.caglecartoons.com/media/cartoons/35/2012/03/06/107613_600.jpg)

You know, there's something I've always wondered about Pinocchio: If he were to verbalize a paradox ("This sentence is false.", etc.), would his nose rapidly grow and shrink over and over again?

(http://uploads.neatorama.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/ZQdH9.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lime Paradox on March 06, 2012, 08:37:03 pm
You know, there's something I've always wondered about Pinocchio: If he were to verbalize a paradox ("This sentence is false.", etc.), would his nose rapidly grow and shrink over and over again?

...Apparently there's an entire Wikipedia page (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinocchio_paradox) dedicated to that.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Osama bin Bambi on March 06, 2012, 08:45:46 pm
You know, there's something I've always wondered about Pinocchio: If he were to verbalize a paradox ("This sentence is false.", etc.), would his nose rapidly grow and shrink over and over again?

...Apparently there's an entire Wikipedia page (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinocchio_paradox) dedicated to that.

So apparently Pinocchio's nose would grow even if he was telling the truth.

... Huh.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on March 06, 2012, 08:56:49 pm
You know, there's something I've always wondered about Pinocchio: If he were to verbalize a paradox ("This sentence is false.", etc.), would his nose rapidly grow and shrink over and over again?

...Apparently there's an entire Wikipedia page (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinocchio_paradox) dedicated to that.

I'm so glad we have a page devoted entirely to that. And it's longer than a few other articles I've seen.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Quasirodent on March 07, 2012, 01:12:37 am
You know, there's something I've always wondered about Pinocchio: If he were to verbalize a paradox ("This sentence is false.", etc.), would his nose rapidly grow and shrink over and over again?

...Apparently there's an entire Wikipedia page (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinocchio_paradox) dedicated to that.

I'm so glad we have a page devoted entirely to that. And it's longer than a few other articles I've seen.

I am pretty tired so I'm not sure, but was this solution mentioned?:  Where Pinocchio says 'my nose grows now', it does not grow at that exact moment (now) rendering the statement false, therefore his nose grows briefly afterwards? 

And if he says 'My nose will grow', without the specific time frame (now), that could easily mean that he will lie at some point in the future, making the statement true, without any contradiction.  Which I think was mentioned briefly.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Damen on March 07, 2012, 02:06:47 am
(http://2.images.theweek.com/img/dir_0059/29510_cartoon_main/pro-choice-choose-to-move.jpg)

(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a229/dhonig2/YourAbortionMyAbortion800.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on March 07, 2012, 03:01:12 am
The simple solution to the Pinocchio problem is...

He told a lie, his nose grows.  The lie becomes a truth, so the nose shrinks back to normal.  And then it stays normal until he tells his next lie.

After all, Pinoch didn't say "My nose is now going to grow and stay long".  Just that it'd grow.  Nothing about it shrinking again.

There.  It took me two lines to do what that entire wikipedia article fretted about.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Yla on March 07, 2012, 05:25:17 am
Also, if I recall correctly, Pinocchio's nose grows if upon lie, not upon an untruth - there's a difference. So he could be erring. Simple as that.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: The Right Honourable Mlle Antéchrist on March 07, 2012, 09:39:50 am
I still want to know what happens if the liar's paradox he's verbalizing has nothing to do with his nose.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cataclysm on March 07, 2012, 11:54:38 am
(http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t317/seifer22532/magicblastocystgh9.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: gyeonghwa on March 07, 2012, 12:28:34 pm
Not a cartoon but:

(http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/427733_10150600868861275_177486166274_9537594_692228154_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Podkayne on March 07, 2012, 01:10:58 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/Xg6cA.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Damen on March 07, 2012, 03:31:39 pm
(http://www.sun-sentinel.com/media/photo/2012-02/108559200-27131834.gif)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on March 07, 2012, 07:14:00 pm
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/64770_361446723886596_174612345903369_1096154_1673386495_n.jpg)

(http://media.timesfreepress.com/img/photos/2012/03/06/120307_The_Flip-Flops_t618.jpg?ba5b5b122dd3d37cc13d83e92a6a0ec0d5bfa32a)

(http://media.caglecartoons.com/media/cartoons/16/2012/03/07/107713_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on March 07, 2012, 07:20:24 pm
Satan looks kinda hot in that last one.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on March 07, 2012, 07:25:13 pm
The funny thing is that it says it's a conservative cartoon, but I see it as saying Breibart was such scum, he's not worthy of hell even.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Her3tiK on March 07, 2012, 07:30:16 pm
Here's a link (http://knowyourmeme.com/photos/264259-kony-2012) for a great pic about all that Joseph Kony crap that's been making it's way around the internet lately. I'd post it direct, but it's massive (652x7453). Also, may not be a "Cartoon" exactly, but I think it about sums up the Humanitarian Crisis of the Week.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: booley on March 07, 2012, 07:53:45 pm
Ok this is worst and best.  But you'll understand why...

First
(http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/web03/2012/3/5/23/enhanced-buzz-5680-1331009196-10.jpg)

and the response...
(http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/terminal05/2012/3/5/23/enhanced-buzz-22192-1331009209-3.jpg)

maybe I'm ina liberal bubble but that doesn't seem like a very good anti-obama meme to me.  Didn't they try that (and fail ) on Bill Clinton?

http://www.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeedpolitics/maybe-most-powerful-anti-obama-meme-of-2012
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: booley on March 07, 2012, 07:57:53 pm
Their paycheck... that they get from tax payer money.

The same of which could be said for teachers, firefighters, police officers, etc. It isn't tax payer money once it goes into their paycheck, it's their money.

Try telling hat to cons.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: gyeonghwa on March 07, 2012, 07:58:26 pm
Being a pilot doesn't mean you'd be able to effectively run a country.  ::) But I would say that it qualifies for the worse political cartoon side because it's an inept attempt at showing that Rick Perry is better as a candidate.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Podkayne on March 07, 2012, 08:48:04 pm
(http://images2.dailykos.com/i/user/121704/oreillymethod550.png)

(http://images1.dailykos.com/i/user/312562/Kos-40-teaser.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on March 08, 2012, 03:08:23 am
(http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m062qiS0Cg1qdc32wo1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Jack Mann on March 08, 2012, 07:36:05 am
Their paycheck... that they get from tax payer money.

The same of which could be said for teachers, firefighters, police officers, etc. It isn't tax payer money once it goes into their paycheck, it's their money.

Try telling hat to cons.

This all reminds me of a congressman who wanted to get porn removed from AAFES (Army-Air Force Exchange system; basically the retail stores on Army and Air Force bases).  His reasoning was that tax payers pay our salaries, so it shouldn't be going for things like pornography.

Yet he never suggested tax payers determine what his salary went for...
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: e13 on March 08, 2012, 01:03:43 pm
^^

This logic is a slippery slope.

My money goes to the paycheck of every service and industry I give money to. Ergo, I can tell them what to do with said money? Eh, no.

The army provides it's service of protection. I could care less if s/he/they/whateverdude needs a skin mag to blow off some steam.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cataclysm on March 08, 2012, 06:38:09 pm
(http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/s320x320/429692_244387902317542_100002390024330_506041_1067282174_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: ironbite on March 08, 2012, 06:39:30 pm
^^

This logic is a slippery slope.

My money goes to the paycheck of every service and industry I give money to. Ergo, I can tell them what to do with said money? Eh, no.

The army provides it's service of protection. I could care less if s/he/they/whateverdude needs a skin mag to blow off some steam.

BUT THAT'S NOT GOD'S PLAN FOR THE ARMY!

Ironbite-seriously, that's their logic.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: N. De Plume on March 08, 2012, 10:24:14 pm
Wouldn’t it cost society more money to deal with all the unwanted babies than it would to help makes sure there aren’t so many in the first place?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: SpaceProg on March 08, 2012, 10:30:37 pm
Wouldn’t it cost society more money to deal with all the unwanted babies than it would to help makes sure there aren’t so many in the first place?

Yes.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on March 08, 2012, 11:22:44 pm
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/419622_318482518206879_102702636451536_858665_1729715761_n.jpg)

(http://media.caglecartoons.com/media/cartoons/73/2012/03/08/107818_600.jpg)

(http://media.caglecartoons.com/media/cartoons/112/2012/03/08/107822_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lt. Fred on March 08, 2012, 11:30:29 pm
Quote from: nickiknack link=topic=10.msg36690#msg36690 date=1331266964 [img
http://media.caglecartoons.com/media/cartoons/73/2012/03/08/107818_600.jpg[/img]

Isn't it funny that Ron Paul is in the party of Lincoln?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: N. De Plume on March 09, 2012, 06:34:50 am
I think they should only be able to claim status of “The Party of Lincoln” if their platform is identical to the Republican platform of 1860.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: e13 on March 09, 2012, 09:41:19 am
I think they should only be able to claim status of “The Party of Lincoln” if their platform is identical to the Republican platform of 1860.
Anti-slavery is still a legitimate issue. Slavery rings still circle the globe. Not that most Americans give two shits.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on March 09, 2012, 09:45:27 am
I think they should only be able to claim status of “The Party of Lincoln” if their platform is identical to the Republican platform of 1860.
Anti-slavery is still a legitimate issue. Slavery rings still circle the globe. Not that most Americans give two shits.
True that.  Also the only one who has not made any outright racist statements is Romney.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Podkayne on March 09, 2012, 05:38:22 pm
(http://www.redmeat.com/redmeat/2011-10-04/index-1.gif)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lt. Fred on March 09, 2012, 05:39:55 pm
I think they should only be able to claim status of “The Party of Lincoln” if their platform is identical to the Republican platform of 1860.
Anti-slavery is still a legitimate issue. Slavery rings still circle the globe. Not that most Americans give two shits.

It is not as severe as 1863 South Carolina. At least slaves do not make up a majority of a huge country's population.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RavynousHunter on March 09, 2012, 05:51:37 pm
Shouldn't Lincoln be facepalming?  Or grabbing each in turn and eating them?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Canadian Mojo on March 09, 2012, 06:38:56 pm
Wouldn’t it cost society more money to deal with all the unwanted babies than it would to help makes sure there aren’t so many in the first place?
Not if you just ignore the problem and let them die.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: N. De Plume on March 09, 2012, 06:44:06 pm
Wouldn’t it cost society more money to deal with all the unwanted babies than it would to help makes sure there aren’t so many in the first place?
Not if you just ignore the problem and let them die.
But then you have to pay for cleaning up the bodies.

There is always a cost.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cataclysm on March 09, 2012, 08:04:49 pm
God before reason!

You don't see "in reason we trust" on our money!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on March 09, 2012, 08:58:55 pm
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/424152_269791313097884_253546571389025_753783_19383071_n.jpg)

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/423146_3504681502756_1443326658_3326783_1118186305_n.jpg)

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/64714_380111968666454_114517875225866_1432637_793195809_n.jpg)

(http://www.classwarfareexists.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Romney-Regatta.jpg)

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/420159_3452774288837_1555184805_2998401_813919886_n.jpg)

(http://addictinginfo.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/GOPCrossFlag-300x199.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: N. De Plume on March 09, 2012, 11:24:08 pm
Ooh, like that last one. Nice Genius Reference.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cataclysm on March 10, 2012, 07:33:21 pm
Sinclair Lewis?

(http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/424202_10150606993211275_177486166274_9553769_2030856088_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on March 10, 2012, 10:53:42 pm
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/425952_10150669217922722_281168802721_9113012_244177490_n.jpg)

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/419851_346078362100139_100000939347809_931477_313519528_n.jpg)

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/425809_10150657594469264_247763399263_8849170_1964346673_n.jpg)

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/420966_369683336386212_162379530449928_1254563_1154937865_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cataclysm on March 10, 2012, 11:10:23 pm
That statue sure looks pissed.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: N. De Plume on March 10, 2012, 11:16:03 pm
I totally swear that I had not seen that last cartoon before I tossed out a similar idea in the thread about the Rush statue.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on March 11, 2012, 12:57:57 am
Lexicon's comic is awesome.

That crucifiction comic on the other hand is somehow equally horrible and accurate.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Morgenleoht on March 11, 2012, 01:43:35 am
I can see the kid in the crucifixion one as a terrified closeted son of a fundie just by the look of horror on his face...
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on March 11, 2012, 01:57:16 am
There is actually this one movie I saw (I forget what it was) where the Anti-Christ was actually the son of an abusive preacher who crucified his own son to a fence because they were visited by CPS or a concerned neighbor or something, I forget.

The Anti-Christ was someone who used demons to make the illusion of healing people, but really, that's all it was, an illusion.

Surprisingly not a bad film for one that was so pro-Christian.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on March 11, 2012, 08:28:13 am
(http://www.filibustercartoons.com/comics/20120310.gif)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on March 11, 2012, 12:19:03 pm
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/431303_389186437758795_275373239140116_1494567_1721592615_n.jpg)

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/420755_363635003667768_174612345903369_1102468_2037804596_n.jpg)

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/429342_382626418432272_196601040368145_1436692_559400498_n.jpg)

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/432140_363457590352176_174612345903369_1101619_1529148976_n.jpg)

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/422807_338844159493775_284438941600964_999314_245215036_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Thejebusfire on March 11, 2012, 04:59:25 pm
Ok this is worst and best.  But you'll understand why...

First
(http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/web03/2012/3/5/23/enhanced-buzz-5680-1331009196-10.jpg)

and the response...
(http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/terminal05/2012/3/5/23/enhanced-buzz-22192-1331009209-3.jpg)

maybe I'm ina liberal bubble but that doesn't seem like a very good anti-obama meme to me.  Didn't they try that (and fail ) on Bill Clinton?

http://www.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeedpolitics/maybe-most-powerful-anti-obama-meme-of-2012


Obama was quite a hottie back in the day.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RavynousHunter on March 11, 2012, 05:02:06 pm
The man had a sense of style then, and he's got it to this day.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cataclysm on March 11, 2012, 06:16:03 pm
(http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/424086_399359730090680_224319224261399_1552905_542540822_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: ironbite on March 11, 2012, 09:33:25 pm
Those aren't future welfare recipients.

Ironbite-those are future cannon fodder.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on March 11, 2012, 10:02:21 pm
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/385045_229875700410540_157706297627481_651367_1740277181_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Osama bin Bambi on March 11, 2012, 10:09:52 pm
Oh my god best comic ever
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: N. De Plume on March 11, 2012, 10:18:06 pm
So fucking true.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: VirtualStranger on March 11, 2012, 10:18:47 pm
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/385045_229875700410540_157706297627481_651367_1740277181_n.jpg (https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/385045_229875700410540_157706297627481_651367_1740277181_n.jpg)

Dear political cartoonists: Not every object in the image needs to be labeled. This comic would have worked just as well with about half of the text.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on March 11, 2012, 10:22:08 pm
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/385045_229875700410540_157706297627481_651367_1740277181_n.jpg (https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/385045_229875700410540_157706297627481_651367_1740277181_n.jpg)

Dear political cartoonists: Not every object in the image needs to be labeled. This comic would have worked just as well with about half of the text.

And it works just fine with the text.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: N. De Plume on March 11, 2012, 10:38:59 pm
But not necessarily as well. The text adds a lot of clutter.

But then, I suppose the artist may be attempting to reach some of those audiences that need everything explained to them. In that case, it only does work with the labels.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on March 11, 2012, 10:43:48 pm
But not necessarily as well. The text adds a lot of clutter.

But then, I suppose the artist may be attempting to reach some of those audiences that need everything explained to them. In that case, it only does work with the labels.
This one the labels are necessary but others not so much
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: N. De Plume on March 11, 2012, 10:55:32 pm
The “Trillions in Bailouts/Tax Avoidance” labels are most definitely not necessary, especially in light of the other labels
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on March 11, 2012, 11:02:29 pm
But not necessarily as well. The text adds a lot of clutter.

But then, I suppose the artist may be attempting to reach some of those audiences that need everything explained to them. In that case, it only does work with the labels.

On the other hand, I've seen a ton of political cartoons (in this very thread) that pretty much need labels because people are unrecognizable, or the imagery is so vague that only hipsters get it.

Or perhaps there's people out there that just aren't aware of every political event happening at once, like me.  Because I'm too cheap to pay for a subscription to a newsletter.

To be honest, I didn't even really notice the Triilions in Bailouts/Tax Avoidance too much.  I mean, I saw them, I read them, but they didn't catch my eye or anything.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: VirtualStranger on March 11, 2012, 11:18:26 pm
Didn't mean to start an argument...

Here's a great political cartoonist: Clay Bennett (http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/cartoons/)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Servo on March 12, 2012, 04:05:47 am
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/385045_229875700410540_157706297627481_651367_1740277181_n.jpg (https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/385045_229875700410540_157706297627481_651367_1740277181_n.jpg)

Dear political cartoonists: Not every object in the image needs to be labeled. This comic would have worked just as well with about half of the text.

(http://www.smbc-comics.com/comics/20080702.gif)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Eniliad on March 12, 2012, 05:46:37 am
SMBC... never change.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cataclysm on March 12, 2012, 07:58:04 pm
(http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/417731_396288310397822_224319224261399_1544232_113891415_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on March 12, 2012, 08:06:12 pm
That last line is gold.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on March 12, 2012, 08:14:33 pm
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/421305_370883272932885_162379530449928_1258459_1148134641_n.jpg)

Here's the Doonesbury strip that a few newspapers are refusing to run:
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/417086_256108204473191_1024209809_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Eniliad on March 12, 2012, 08:16:50 pm
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/421305_370883272932885_162379530449928_1258459_1148134641_n.jpg)

Here's the Doonesbury strip that a few newspapers are refusing to run:
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/417086_256108204473191_1024209809_n.jpg)

...that's it? That sounds like your typical Doonesbury - no punchline, no humor, liberal commentary, and scene. What's got newspapers refusing to run it?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Kit Walker on March 12, 2012, 08:25:38 pm
...that's it? That sounds like your typical Doonesbury - no punchline, no humor, liberal commentary, and scene. What's got newspapers refusing to run it?

I would imagine the fact that it portrays a woman getting an abortion and the tone of the comic being somewhat flippant about it.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cerim Treascair on March 12, 2012, 08:55:03 pm
...that's it? That sounds like your typical Doonesbury - no punchline, no humor, liberal commentary, and scene. What's got newspapers refusing to run it?

I would imagine the fact that it portrays a woman getting an abortion and the tone of the comic being somewhat flippant about it.

Plus the scarlet letter (nice touch, that) on the clipboard.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on March 12, 2012, 09:04:12 pm
Were Hispanics ever voting Republican I mean there are social conservatives but since 2009 they've been isolated
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: VirtualStranger on March 13, 2012, 02:21:13 am
Here's the Doonesbury strip that a few newspapers are refusing to run:
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/417086_256108204473191_1024209809_n.jpg)

And the follow-up:

(http://cdn.svcs.c2.uclick.com/c2/12724b604ad0012f2fd100163e41dd5b)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Her3tiK on March 13, 2012, 02:17:17 pm
I love how nothing designed to make people think gets aired/published anymore because it might offend someone.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: gyeonghwa on March 13, 2012, 03:51:26 pm
(http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/431985_3036024975381_1105650498_32542132_1364563050_n.jpg)
(http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/421139_182664995183085_100003187586518_281456_1566788268_n.jpg)
(http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/378998_10151071219275111_744200110_21979985_624117732_n.jpg)
(http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/423737_10150612154296275_177486166274_9573172_71572785_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Podkayne on March 13, 2012, 08:50:06 pm
(http://0.tqn.com/d/politicalhumor/1/7/m/9/4/Republican-Survival-Suit.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on March 13, 2012, 08:58:21 pm
(http://0.tqn.com/d/politicalhumor/1/7/m/9/4/Republican-Survival-Suit.jpg)
Good but I would have added imaginary Sharia Law since protecting against Sharia law might make more sense in say Turkey
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on March 13, 2012, 09:57:04 pm
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/430250_322333407825820_112713662121130_858256_2071360345_n.jpg)

(http://www.classwarfareexists.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Year-of-the-Woman.jpg)

(http://media.timesfreepress.com/img/photos/2012/03/12/120313_The_Ballot_t618.jpg?ba5b5b122dd3d37cc13d83e92a6a0ec0d5bfa32a)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Her3tiK on March 13, 2012, 11:43:13 pm
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/430250_322333407825820_112713662121130_858256_2071360345_n.jpg)
That is offensive to drummers everywhere.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cataclysm on March 14, 2012, 12:50:20 am
(http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/432090_380914321919552_114517875225866_1435038_1813318275_n.jpg)



(http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/421443_374326669244984_114517875225866_1418327_1745117053_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Damen on March 14, 2012, 04:13:17 am
(http://i41.tinypic.com/fuykj6.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: VirtualStranger on March 14, 2012, 01:09:45 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/qdg3v.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on March 14, 2012, 01:30:11 pm
Meanwhile, I posit that both are actually correct, as the ideologies they feared aren't necessarily mutually exclusive.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Thejebusfire on March 14, 2012, 01:46:04 pm
(http://media.zenfs.com/en_us/News/ucomics.com/la120302.gif)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on March 14, 2012, 02:41:43 pm
Isn't it technically counterproductive to portray Rush as a whore in an attempt to criticize him on calling other people whores?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Eniliad on March 14, 2012, 04:06:18 pm
I'm more interested in the fact that that image will haunt my nightmares.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Sixth Monarchist on March 14, 2012, 04:49:46 pm
(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2012/3/13/1331669772094/Steve-Bell-14.3.2012-001.jpg)

Placed here, if for no other reason than the coinage of "horseberg".
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: MadCatTLX on March 14, 2012, 05:18:25 pm
(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2012/3/13/1331669772094/Steve-Bell-14.3.2012-001.jpg)

Placed here, if for no other reason than the coinage of "horseberg".

I'm not sure what that one means personally, but it involves equines, so I love it.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lt. Fred on March 14, 2012, 05:37:04 pm
I'd say that both Orwell and Huxley have been proven to be right- just not in Australia or the US. Brezhnev Russia was a pretty straight adoption of 1984.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: N. De Plume on March 14, 2012, 07:40:22 pm
Meanwhile, I posit that both are actually correct, as the ideologies they feared aren't necessarily mutually exclusive.

Same here. I think Fareheit 451 actually has a nice blend on the concepts, even if it hits you a bit more heavily with the “Censorship!” end of the stick. Maybe Bradbury was closest of all?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on March 14, 2012, 07:43:53 pm
the continuation of the "controversial" Doonesbury comic
(http://addictinginfo.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/3896961.gif)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on March 14, 2012, 08:05:08 pm
Meanwhile, I posit that both are actually correct, as the ideologies they feared aren't necessarily mutually exclusive.

Same here. I think Fareheit 451 actually has a nice blend on the concepts, even if it hits you a bit more heavily with the “Censorship!” end of the stick. Maybe Bradbury was closest of all?

*coughs* "Bradbury has stated that the novel is not about censorship (http://www.laweekly.com/2007-05-31/news/ray-bradbury-fahrenheit-451-misinterpreted/), but a story about how television destroys interest in reading literature, which leads to a perception of knowledge as being composed of factoids, partial information devoid of context."

Though I do agree it's a good blend all things considered.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Osama bin Bambi on March 14, 2012, 08:08:29 pm
Meanwhile, I posit that both are actually correct, as the ideologies they feared aren't necessarily mutually exclusive.

Same here. I think Fareheit 451 actually has a nice blend on the concepts, even if it hits you a bit more heavily with the “Censorship!” end of the stick. Maybe Bradbury was closest of all?

It wasn't about censorship, it was about how television and mass media is ruining literature forever. He falls more on the "Huxley" side.

He also doesn't own a computer and thinks the internet is a scam.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on March 14, 2012, 08:11:09 pm
Meanwhile, I posit that both are actually correct, as the ideologies they feared aren't necessarily mutually exclusive.

Same here. I think Fareheit 451 actually has a nice blend on the concepts, even if it hits you a bit more heavily with the “Censorship!” end of the stick. Maybe Bradbury was closest of all?

It wasn't about censorship, it was about how television and mass media is ruining literature forever. He falls more on the "Huxley" side.

He also doesn't own a computer and thinks the internet is a scam.

To be fair he did finally release Fahrenheit 451 onto e-book format. It's odd that he wouldn't since it would be read which is the opposite of the fear he has.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on March 14, 2012, 08:31:49 pm
Meanwhile, I posit that both are actually correct, as the ideologies they feared aren't necessarily mutually exclusive.

Same here. I think Fareheit 451 actually has a nice blend on the concepts, even if it hits you a bit more heavily with the “Censorship!” end of the stick. Maybe Bradbury was closest of all?

It wasn't about censorship, it was about how television and mass media is ruining literature forever. He falls more on the "Huxley" side.

He also doesn't own a computer and thinks the internet is a scam.

To be fair he did finally release Fahrenheit 451 onto e-book format. It's odd that he wouldn't since it would be read which is the opposite of the fear he has.
the guy is a major luddite he thought the same about radio
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: N. De Plume on March 14, 2012, 08:35:47 pm
Meanwhile, I posit that both are actually correct, as the ideologies they feared aren't necessarily mutually exclusive.

Same here. I think Fareheit 451 actually has a nice blend on the concepts, even if it hits you a bit more heavily with the “Censorship!” end of the stick. Maybe Bradbury was closest of all?

*coughs* "Bradbury has stated that the novel is not about censorship (http://www.laweekly.com/2007-05-31/news/ray-bradbury-fahrenheit-451-misinterpreted/), but a story about how television destroys interest in reading literature, which leads to a perception of knowledge as being composed of factoids, partial information devoid of context."

Though I do agree it's a good blend all things considered.

What Bradbury intended and what people get out of it are often different things. As it is, although Montag’s wife helps exemplify this “TV is evil” thing, the vast amount of attention paid to the Censorship issue tends to make it much clearer and more memorable. Hell, the “TV is Evil” aspect didn’t even feature much in Beatty’s “history lesson,” instead focusing on a bit of “Political Correctness Gone Mad.” If Bradbury truly intended Farenheit 451’s primary theme to be anti-television, he failed.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on March 14, 2012, 08:42:27 pm
Meanwhile, I posit that both are actually correct, as the ideologies they feared aren't necessarily mutually exclusive.

Same here. I think Fareheit 451 actually has a nice blend on the concepts, even if it hits you a bit more heavily with the “Censorship!” end of the stick. Maybe Bradbury was closest of all?

*coughs* "Bradbury has stated that the novel is not about censorship (http://www.laweekly.com/2007-05-31/news/ray-bradbury-fahrenheit-451-misinterpreted/), but a story about how television destroys interest in reading literature, which leads to a perception of knowledge as being composed of factoids, partial information devoid of context."

Though I do agree it's a good blend all things considered.

What Bradbury intended and what people get out of it are often different things. As it is, although Montag’s wife helps exemplify this “TV is evil” thing, the vast amount of attention paid to the Censorship issue tends to make it much clearer and more memorable. Hell, the “TV is Evil” aspect didn’t even feature much in Beatty’s “history lesson,” instead focusing on a bit of “Political Correctness Gone Mad.” If Bradbury truly intended Farenheit 451’s primary theme to be anti-television, he failed.

Never said they were the same. I'm only saying it wasn't intended to be about censorship. People read it that way. And even his own publisher spread the idea it was about censorship. I was just pointing out it wasn't according to the Voice of God.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: N. De Plume on March 14, 2012, 08:48:52 pm
Never said they were the same. I'm only saying it wasn't intended to be about censorship. People read it that way. And even his own publisher spread the idea it was about censorship. I was just pointing out it wasn't according to the Voice of God.

Well, I do not put a lot of stock into “Death of the Author,” but it does have a certain range of applicability. While the author’s interpretation of a work is usually “more correct” it does not invalidate the correctness of what other people get in it. But the fact that it is easier to get a different message than what was supposedly intended in this case may give Death of the Author just a bit more pull.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on March 14, 2012, 10:11:06 pm
Never said they were the same. I'm only saying it wasn't intended to be about censorship. People read it that way. And even his own publisher spread the idea it was about censorship. I was just pointing out it wasn't according to the Voice of God.

Well, I do not put a lot of stock into “Death of the Author,” but it does have a certain range of applicability. While the author’s interpretation of a work is usually “more correct” it does not invalidate the correctness of what other people get in it. But the fact that it is easier to get a different message than what was supposedly intended in this case may give Death of the Author just a bit more pull.
See as most critics including sparknotes say censorship
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: N. De Plume on March 14, 2012, 10:16:37 pm
As near as I can tell the “It’s about television” comment was relatively recent, too. And memory is pretty damn fickle after half a century. It’s likely that an older, even grumpier Bradbury is looking at it through a distorted lens.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on March 14, 2012, 10:25:08 pm
As near as I can tell the “It’s about television” comment was relatively recent, too. And memory is pretty damn fickle after half a century. It’s likely that an older, even grumpier Bradbury is looking at it through a distorted lens.
Probably as that interpretation makes less sense with the internet becoming a giant fact checker
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Jack Mann on March 15, 2012, 03:24:37 am
Meanwhile, I posit that both are actually correct, as the ideologies they feared aren't necessarily mutually exclusive.

Same here. I think Fareheit 451 actually has a nice blend on the concepts, even if it hits you a bit more heavily with the “Censorship!” end of the stick. Maybe Bradbury was closest of all?

It wasn't about censorship, it was about how television and mass media is ruining literature forever. He falls more on the "Huxley" side.

He also doesn't own a computer and thinks the internet is a scam.

To be fair he did finally release Fahrenheit 451 onto e-book format. It's odd that he wouldn't since it would be read which is the opposite of the fear he has.

Because you're not really reading it.  I mean, it's not a real book, unless it's made from a dead tree.

Bradbury's a good author, but he does have a bit of a Luddite streak.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: zupper on March 15, 2012, 04:36:20 am
(http://pics.kuvaton.com/bshit/immigration_blame2.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Sixth Monarchist on March 15, 2012, 07:03:29 am
Fahrenheit 451: I'm not buying the "it's about television" intepretation, not least because said interpretation came about long after the "it's about censorship" one had been freely allowed to flourish, and after, apparently, Bradbury wrote an introduction agreeing with the idea. I can't help but feel that the newer interpretation is Bradbury wanting to have a rant about modern media and linking it to his book in order to get headlines. What's annoying is, Bradbury's a writer. He could write another fucking book that is about television, and have publishers bill it as the spiritual sequel to F451, but as far as I'm aware, this hasn't happened.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: e13 on March 15, 2012, 09:42:26 am
Fahrenheit 451: I'm not buying the "it's about television" intepretation, not least because said interpretation came about long after the "it's about censorship" one had been freely allowed to flourish, and after, apparently, Bradbury wrote an introduction agreeing with the idea. I can't help but feel that the newer interpretation is Bradbury wanting to have a rant about modern media and linking it to his book in order to get headlines. What's annoying is, Bradbury's a writer. He could write another fucking book that is about television, and have publishers bill it as the spiritual sequel to F451, but as far as I'm aware, this hasn't happened.
I guess this is why the "it's not about censorship" claim is odd. I have an edition of 451 where in his introduction he writes about the horrors of censorship, the irony of his book being banned, how he emphasized censorship in his re-write for the stage version... He talks about censorship non-stop.

I've read his only authorized biography as well, where they talk about 451 being about censorship.

I don't know when he changed his mind about his own work, but regardless of what Bradbury says and does, and regardless of his intent, I enjoy his books all the same.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on March 15, 2012, 12:12:08 pm
(http://m.static.newsvine.com/servista/imagesizer?file=robtornoeEF076224-271B-1420-D8B8-69EDD66EAC2F.jpg&width=380)

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(http://media.timesfreepress.com/img/photos/2012/03/15/120315_Good_Luck_t618.jpg?ba5b5b122dd3d37cc13d83e92a6a0ec0d5bfa32a)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on March 15, 2012, 03:04:54 pm
Re: Fahrenheit 451- Fair enough, fair enough.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Distind on March 15, 2012, 03:22:55 pm
*coughs* "Bradbury has stated that the novel is not about censorship (http://www.laweekly.com/2007-05-31/news/ray-bradbury-fahrenheit-451-misinterpreted/), but a story about how television destroys interest in reading literature, which leads to a perception of knowledge as being composed of factoids, partial information devoid of context."

Though I do agree it's a good blend all things considered.
None of which covers the active destruction of books, the social disintegration or the stunningly self destructive behavior repeatedly demonstrated. It's exaggerated social commentary, hitting a number of topics and assigning it a single meaning is rather insulting to the material. And unlike a lot of other similar books, it's actually an interesting read.

Edit: Douple plus bonus, I'd never have given a squat about Bradbury's writing without having watched Ray Bradbury Theater as a kid. Make of that what you will.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Damen on March 15, 2012, 03:40:04 pm
(http://media.timesfreepress.com/img/photos/2012/03/15/120315_Good_Luck_t618.jpg?ba5b5b122dd3d37cc13d83e92a6a0ec0d5bfa32a)

Anyone else take this into Photoshop just to see if they could run the maze?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Quasirodent on March 15, 2012, 03:52:40 pm
I just did it with my cursor, it wasn't too hard. :)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on March 15, 2012, 03:56:56 pm
*coughs* "Bradbury has stated that the novel is not about censorship (http://www.laweekly.com/2007-05-31/news/ray-bradbury-fahrenheit-451-misinterpreted/), but a story about how television destroys interest in reading literature, which leads to a perception of knowledge as being composed of factoids, partial information devoid of context."

Though I do agree it's a good blend all things considered.
None of which covers the active destruction of books, the social disintegration or the stunningly self destructive behavior repeatedly demonstrated. It's exaggerated social commentary, hitting a number of topics and assigning it a single meaning is rather insulting to the material. And unlike a lot of other similar books, it's actually an interesting read.

Edit: Douple plus bonus, I'd never have given a squat about Bradbury's writing without having watched Ray Bradbury Theater as a kid. Make of that what you will.

Complain to Bradbury not to me. I'm not the one who said it.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lt. Fred on March 15, 2012, 05:31:12 pm
451 is quite a dumb, derivative book. Not sure why popular.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: N. De Plume on March 15, 2012, 07:05:21 pm
(http://media.timesfreepress.com/img/photos/2012/03/15/120315_Good_Luck_t618.jpg?ba5b5b122dd3d37cc13d83e92a6a0ec0d5bfa32a)

That reminds me… I registered to vote at my new address today. Got me thinking about this kind of shit. How the republicans are so scared someone is going to take their guns if they get them registered, but see no problem with voters being registered.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on March 15, 2012, 10:33:17 pm
Today's edition of the Doonesbury strip that the Republicans have a problem with:
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: N. De Plume on March 15, 2012, 10:37:24 pm
“I Thee Rape.”

Well, it’s no surprise that newspapers aren’t showing that one. By which I mean, it reflects poorly on the papers anyways. But even without the current hullabaloo of the issue it is getting at would be a death sentence for that particular strip.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cataclysm on March 15, 2012, 10:46:30 pm
Not sure if this was posted before...

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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: e13 on March 16, 2012, 02:37:37 pm
451 is quite a dumb, derivative book. Not sure why popular.
Not sure what's derivative about it, but I found it straight and to the point, and a good read for an afternoon. Not sure why...
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Juna Starrider on March 16, 2012, 03:12:43 pm
It's been a while since I read it, but 451 seemed like either the author wrote half the book in a drug fueled stupor, and then came back to it months later, forgot what the point was, and wrote the other half.  First part seems to be about the perils of TV, but then abruptly started focusing on censorship, as if forgetting about the giant tv's altogether.   

Truth be told, it's been a looooong time since I read it in high school, so I may have not read the true meaning.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on March 16, 2012, 06:26:55 pm
Friday's edition of Doonesbury's ongoing strip:
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cataclysm on March 17, 2012, 12:27:55 am
(http://0.tqn.com/d/politicalhumor/1/0/L/S/4/Limbaugh-Contraception.jpg)

(http://0.tqn.com/d/politicalhumor/1/0/i/S/4/2012-Final-Four.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on March 17, 2012, 04:07:41 am
Jebediah is running on the Republican ticket? :P
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Eniliad on March 17, 2012, 05:11:17 am
451 is quite a dumb, derivative book. Not sure why popular.

I dislike you.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: myusername on March 17, 2012, 06:10:20 am

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/418176_10150678292839907_677279906_9048346_1172245666_n.jpg)

Reminds me of http://www.arrestblair.org/.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: e13 on March 17, 2012, 11:35:40 am

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/418176_10150678292839907_677279906_9048346_1172245666_n.jpg)

Reminds me of http://www.arrestblair.org/.
All I know is the only reason Bush hasn't been charged with shit is, well, you know, you can't hold an American President responsible for jack squat! Unless they're a black, Kenyan, Socialist Muslim, of course.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on March 17, 2012, 11:43:49 am
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: N. De Plume on March 17, 2012, 11:54:26 am
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/419099_267956256620536_103172666432230_677857_115333735_n.jpg)

Link fixed.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Yla on March 17, 2012, 02:34:47 pm
All I know is the only reason Bush hasn't been charged with shit is, well, you know, you can't hold an American President responsible for jack squat! Unless they're a black, Kenyan, Socialist Muslim, of course.
Another reason is that the US still isn't big on the idea of international law and justice and hasn't joined the ICC.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: e13 on March 17, 2012, 04:44:05 pm
All I know is the only reason Bush hasn't been charged with shit is, well, you know, you can't hold an American President responsible for jack squat! Unless they're a black, Kenyan, Socialist Muslim, of course.
Another reason is that the US still isn't big on the idea of international law and justice and hasn't joined the ICC.
Quiet, socialist!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cataclysm on March 17, 2012, 07:52:32 pm
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lt. Fred on March 17, 2012, 08:02:56 pm
451 is quite a dumb, derivative book. Not sure why popular.
Not sure what's derivative about it, but I found it straight and to the point, and a good read for an afternoon. Not sure why...

The writing is dumb. The idea isn't all that. The characters are shallow and the females ones aren't even that. The conclusion is nothing. The plot doesn't happen. It's only a book in that a book is two covers with word-covered paper in the middle.

It's 1984 if Orwell was shit. '84 is the best of these dystopians, actually- it's significantly better than Brave New World, which is definitely okayish.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: e13 on March 17, 2012, 08:18:52 pm
451 is quite a dumb, derivative book. Not sure why popular.
Not sure what's derivative about it, but I found it straight and to the point, and a good read for an afternoon. Not sure why...

The writing is dumb. The idea isn't all that. The characters are shallow and the females ones aren't even that. The conclusion is nothing. The plot doesn't happen. It's only a book in that a book is two covers with word-covered paper in the middle.

It's 1984 if Orwell was shit. '84 is the best of these dystopians, actually- it's significantly better than Brave New World, which is definitely okayish.
I'm not in the mood to get into a long debate about it, but I'll say this.

- I find the characters to be strong enough on their own. The female roles, sadly, are held by a majority of the supporting roles to show what a pleasure only seeking world would be like.

- The conclusion is idots using a fake war to keep people in check, and that causes a real war. So the survivors get to start over. Death of free-tought is self-destruction is the "moral".

- Protagonist is indoctrinated. Protagonist reads, rebels, is in conflict with society, hides, is passive-aggressive, gets lucky as society self-destructs. That's called a plot.

There is so much poorly written garbage in the world, and I am shocked at how many times Bradbury gets lumped in with it. He writes about simple ideas, sure, but his characters have motivation, conflict, resolution, and his text is legible. That hardly qualifies as shit.

I hate, hate, HATE Lord of the Flies, but I wouldn't call it shit. I'd call it a waste of my personal time, but its plot, intent, and writing is clear, so I can't call it shit. Will, won't I suppose.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Osama bin Bambi on March 17, 2012, 08:39:09 pm
Totally not understanding all this Bradbury and Lord of the Flies hate.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lt. Fred on March 17, 2012, 08:42:01 pm
Haven't read the Flies so can't comment. The movie is okay, I guess.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: N. De Plume on March 17, 2012, 08:48:49 pm
Haven't read the Flies so can't comment. The movie is okay, I guess.

Which one?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: e13 on March 17, 2012, 08:54:05 pm
Totally not understanding all this Bradbury and Lord of the Flies hate.
It's called I'm shocked that Fred is using potty language when stating his birth-given right to have an opinion.

Lord of the Flies irritates me for surprisingly similar reasons to Fred hating 451, in regards to delivering its "message." Also, like Fred, I prefer another book that handles the evil of man - Heart of Darkness. Apocalypse Now works about as well.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lt. Fred on March 17, 2012, 08:58:46 pm
Haven't read the Flies so can't comment. The movie is okay, I guess.

Which one?

The older one. Must have been the '63 version.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: chad sexington on March 17, 2012, 09:08:59 pm
I didn't realise there'd been a new version made.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: N. De Plume on March 17, 2012, 09:36:00 pm
I didn't realise there'd been a new version made.

From 1990. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lord_of_the_Flies_(1990_film))
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on March 17, 2012, 10:36:44 pm
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/424967_387170181311229_196601040368145_1449875_215782248_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: e13 on March 17, 2012, 11:35:43 pm
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/424967_387170181311229_196601040368145_1449875_215782248_n.jpg)
Festive AND accurate!

For the record, I thought the films resonated better with me. Mind you, I've only seen like half of the 60s version.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Thejebusfire on March 18, 2012, 12:03:00 am
(http://www.tumblr.com/photo/1280/stfuhatemongers/19083259281/1/tumblr_m0jhexOosy1r6001p)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: SpaceProg on March 18, 2012, 12:24:53 am
They had some real wit back then.  Clever stuff.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: N. De Plume on March 18, 2012, 12:32:13 am
Is that really from 1915? That kind of cut-and-paste satire is something I tend to associate mostly with the internet.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: SpaceProg on March 18, 2012, 12:41:25 am
Hey, man... if you see it on the internet, it MUST BE TRUE! ;)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: N. De Plume on March 18, 2012, 12:43:46 am
Hey, man... if you see it on the internet, it MUST BE TRUE! ;)

Of course. It is all so educational on the Internet. And not many people know this, but that educational aspect goes hand in hand with the Internet being for porn.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: chad sexington on March 18, 2012, 12:59:37 am
Now that is awesome.

Of course. It is all so educational on the Internet. And not many people know this, but that educational aspect goes hand in hand with the Internet being for porn.
Education... porn... coincidence?  I THINK NOT!!!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on March 18, 2012, 03:56:47 am
Oh yeah... teach me about those woolly mammoths... fill my mind with trivia about bees... oh, I love how you explain the menstrual cycle... gimme those food facts, oh yes...
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: e13 on March 18, 2012, 09:07:18 am
Oh yeah... teach me about those woolly mammoths... fill my mind with trivia about bees... oh, I love how you explain the menstrual cycle... gimme those food facts, oh yes...
...I need an adult!  :-\
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cataclysm on March 18, 2012, 02:00:00 pm
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: N. De Plume on March 18, 2012, 02:12:22 pm
I am not sure if simply referring to it as “five-figure debt” is telling enough. I got through school with a relatively light load of debt. But light as it was, it was still five-figures and significantly more than what my new* car cost. I also lucked out and got my debt at a time when interest rates were amazingly low. All the same, I stayed with the parents for some time and managed to pay it all off extremely early. Still, I could have managed going out on my own shortly after graduation. My problem was just that I couldn’t get a job with a livable wage until two months ago.

I guess, my point is that ”five-figure debt” is only half the story (the other half being interest rate and loan term) on the debt itself. And that alone runs a huge gamut. Anything from $10,000 to $99,999 is five figures. The label just doesn’t do enough for me on that basis alone. It just bugs me.

* New as in “new in my possession, but gently used,” not as in “brand new, 2012 model.”
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Damen on March 18, 2012, 07:15:07 pm
Magni sent this to me.

(http://www.tumblr.com/photo/1280/political-cartoons/19294677790/1/tumblr_m0u5f5rHN51qguulq)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Smurfette Principle on March 18, 2012, 07:31:47 pm
(http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m0zx53X36E1qbxkjao1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: N. De Plume on March 18, 2012, 07:44:01 pm
Unfortunately, it appears that certain presidential candidates are among the Americans that think the right image is accurate. Or, at least, if they don’t, they find it politically convenient to pretend they do. I don’t know which is worse.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Smurfette Principle on March 19, 2012, 04:34:04 pm
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m15fqiM1ss1qa4ff3o1_500.jpg)

(http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m15cxvqeDU1r55d2io1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on March 19, 2012, 10:58:08 pm
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m15fqiM1ss1qa4ff3o1_500.jpg)

(http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m15cxvqeDU1r55d2io1_500.jpg)
I dont think the Jim Crow label was necessary the Klan hood is universal
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Jodie on March 20, 2012, 02:32:15 pm
(http://media.caglecartoons.com/media/cartoons/46/2012/03/15/108272_600.jpg)

(http://media.caglecartoons.com/media/cartoons/17/2012/03/20/108464_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on March 20, 2012, 03:38:45 pm
I dont think the Jim Crow label was necessary the Klan hood is universal

I have trouble phrasing this the right way, but I on think that the KKK guy should have been left out and some other way of referring to Jim Crow laws should be kept. Because KKK brings to my mind lynchings, actually killing the minorities -I'm sure we can agree that the voter ID law is not the same as going around killing people- but since poor minorities seem to be the ones who suffer most from requiring voter ID comparing it to laws that took rights from minorities is a better comparison.

(Although I still don't understand how getting an ID could be so difficult in USA.)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Kit Walker on March 20, 2012, 03:58:06 pm
(Although I still don't understand how getting an ID could be so difficult in USA.)

To get a picture ID (Driver's License or State ID card, most businesses don't accept passports even though they're tougher to get - meaning there's no point in having it unless you actually plan to travel), you need to go to the nearest Secretary of State Office or Department of Motor Vehicles. If you live in a major metropolitan area, there are usually a few different locations but no matter where you are convenience of location involves some luck. Even in big cities, getting to one without a driver's license can be a bitch and half - in rural areas, even more so. So you need either public transit or a ride. Next, you have to go when they're open. The Michigan (where I live) Secretary of State office is open from 9AM to 5 PM (7PM on Wednesdays where available) Monday through Friday, though some Super! Centers are open Saturday 9AM-Noon. Once your there, you have to wait your turn. I waited 2 hours to be seen (for the 10 minutes needed to renew my Driver's License) at on a fairly average Thursday. You pretty much have to have at least half a day off of work to make going worth anything. This doesn't even get into the items required to prove your ID to get a picture ID (including a particular type of Birth Certificate copy, your social security card -which much be obtained from a different government office, some bills in your name at your address, et al). Plus the ID itself costs money, though renewing my DL late only cost about $25...though that can be a lot of money to some people.

For the working poor who don't have a driver's license (because if they had one, there wouldn't be an issue), the whole process (Taking a day off of work, finding transportation, making sure you have all the exact right documents, etc) can be a nigh-insurmountable hassle. Especially when the alternative is to simply not vote.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on March 20, 2012, 04:19:14 pm
if they are so worried about voter ID just mail cards out when citizen turns 18
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: e13 on March 20, 2012, 04:39:34 pm
if they are so worried about voter ID just mail cards out when citizen turns 18
That wouldn't achieve the goal of disenfranchising traditionally liberal voters.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on March 20, 2012, 04:53:25 pm
if they are so worried about voter ID just mail cards out when citizen turns 18
That wouldn't achieve the goal of disenfranchising traditionally liberal voters.
I know I'm just trying to poke holes.  Seriously you;re automatically registered and at the polling place you are given the option to register as a party member
Also internet acess helps if you need to register
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Her3tiK on March 20, 2012, 06:48:15 pm
if they are so worried about voter ID just mail cards out when citizen turns 18
That wouldn't achieve the goal of disenfranchising traditionally liberal voters.
I know I'm just trying to poke holes.  Seriously you;re automatically registered and at the polling place you are given the option to register as a party member
Also internet acess helps if you need to register
Sshhhhh. Don't tell them that, or they might try to take the internet away from us.

More so than they already are, that is.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Damen on March 20, 2012, 06:48:47 pm
(http://mov4me.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/07-11-25_economist_cartoon.jpg)

(http://www.cartoonstock.com/newscartoons/cartoonists/efi/lowres/efin2086l.jpg)

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_PUOsNTCbjxg/SbrrseCsfRI/AAAAAAAABx4/Sx7iC9AdqW8/s1600/cartoon_gas_prices1.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on March 20, 2012, 07:22:51 pm
I find Ethanol completely useless for one thing you need petrol to make fertilizer
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: N. De Plume on March 20, 2012, 07:25:19 pm
I find Ethanol completely useless for one thing you need petrol to make fertilizer

‘Round here, we just use cow shit.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on March 20, 2012, 07:34:01 pm
I find Ethanol completely useless for one thing you need petrol to make fertilizer

‘Round here, we just use cow shit.
All I'm saying is for that reason among others ethanol is not the answer at least corn based
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: e13 on March 20, 2012, 07:42:28 pm
I find Ethanol completely useless for one thing you need petrol to make fertilizer

‘Round here, we just use cow shit.
All I'm saying is for that reason among others ethanol is not the answer at least corn based
It's also not the best solution for gas prices. Corn pricing is about stable and cheap as investing in Greece.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Podkayne on March 20, 2012, 10:18:40 pm
(http://images1.dailykos.com/i/user/331054/1079ckSMALL-drone-assassina.png)

Re; fuel prices, biodiesel is a good stop gap, until electric cars become mainstream.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on March 20, 2012, 10:52:24 pm
(http://images1.dailykos.com/i/user/331054/1079ckSMALL-drone-assassina.png)

Re; fuel prices, biodiesel is a good stop gap, until electric cars become mainstream.
Could be but I still say hybrid cars as Diesel engines are expensive in america
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Smurfette Principle on March 21, 2012, 05:29:25 pm
(http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m18t7tFflT1r6dygxo1_500.png)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cataclysm on March 21, 2012, 07:27:11 pm
Some Rocky propaganda, but it's my propaganda.

(http://www.voterocky.org/assets/pages/317/shareronrocky.png)

(http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/422942_3410046019406_1517649599_33124247_1247627102_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Smurfette Principle on March 21, 2012, 08:29:18 pm
(http://www.tumblr.com/photo/1280/reagan-was-a-horrible-president/19689940169/1/tumblr_m190ucJQec1r55d2i)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on March 21, 2012, 09:14:28 pm
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/547781_10150607163561167_26595441166_9487510_2004834018_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cataclysm on March 22, 2012, 01:50:13 pm
(http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/428962_2925713990818_1499951260_32213820_656346424_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on March 22, 2012, 07:19:11 pm
From my encounters with Ron Paul supporters, I have found half them to be the "Fuck everyone else, I got mine" types and the other half live in la la land where everyone will overnight start giving a shit about others.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Igor on March 22, 2012, 08:24:17 pm
(http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/428962_2925713990818_1499951260_32213820_656346424_n.jpg)
JESUS FUCK ON A STICK that is terrifying. So this Ron Paul character, he's some kind of demon, right? :P
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Smurfette Principle on March 22, 2012, 10:07:12 pm
(http://www.tumblr.com/photo/1280/bemusedlybespectacled/19764208520/1/tumblr_m0bpp1l15F1rqjxl8)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on March 23, 2012, 12:18:59 am
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/529148_409805299033229_236565153023912_1672274_1061549179_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Thejebusfire on March 23, 2012, 12:30:48 am
(http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m1ao250QJ31qiyqmuo1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Eniliad on March 23, 2012, 01:55:39 am
Shit, I think I might be a tad out of touch over the last few days. What's that last one referring to?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Itachirumon on March 23, 2012, 02:01:31 am
Same one the other several about the Zimmerman shooting are referring to...and I just about cried reading it
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Eniliad on March 23, 2012, 02:06:21 am
...and I have just caught up on that incident.
...Fuck.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Thejebusfire on March 23, 2012, 10:12:05 pm
(http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ly2tzgoNla1qatfz0o1_500.gif)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on March 23, 2012, 10:31:46 pm
(http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ly2tzgoNla1qatfz0o1_500.gif)
I am baffled the Dr. Pepper one is still being shown in 2012
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on March 23, 2012, 10:42:07 pm
I am amazed the Dr. Pepper one was MADE anytime within the last three years.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cataclysm on March 23, 2012, 11:08:20 pm
It's probably to get even more women to buy it.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: SpaceProg on March 23, 2012, 11:09:46 pm
Bah... everyone knows that Pepsi Max is the manliest drink out there anyway. 
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on March 23, 2012, 11:33:51 pm
I don't understand why someone would buy Dr. Pepper 10. Just go for the Diet instead.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on March 23, 2012, 11:35:18 pm
I don't understand why someone would buy Dr. Pepper 10. Just go for the Diet instead.
I think Diet has half the calories and 10 only has well 10
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Auri-El on March 24, 2012, 12:07:00 am
No, diet pop has no calories.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on March 24, 2012, 12:15:06 am
No, diet pop has no calories.
thought the diet commercial campaign said half calories
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Thejebusfire on March 24, 2012, 12:53:13 am
It's probably to get even more women to buy it.

I tried some just to see what it tasted like.

Tastes like shit.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on March 24, 2012, 01:07:16 am
It's probably to get even more women to buy it.

I tried some just to see what it tasted like.

Tastes like shit.
Well it did say it's not for you http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3iuG1OpnHP8
For the record I think the idea was to be a parody but it's such fail that poes law comes into play
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: MadCatTLX on March 24, 2012, 01:52:40 am
(http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ly2tzgoNla1qatfz0o1_500.gif)
I am baffled the Dr. Pepper one is still being shown in 2012

It came out recently didn't it?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: DarkfireTaimatsu on March 24, 2012, 02:01:45 am
(http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ly2tzgoNla1qatfz0o1_500.gif)

I'm pretty sure Betty Crocker was already extreme (http://mspaintadventures.wikia.com/wiki/Betty_Crocker#Post-Scratch).
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Quasirodent on March 24, 2012, 04:00:47 pm
Apparently drinking things that taste good are weak and womanly, while drinking things that taste like dirty socks is MACHO.

For example:  Pina Coladas Vs. Beer.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Thejebusfire on March 24, 2012, 04:28:16 pm
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m1aqdm8pUM1qjvxfho1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on March 24, 2012, 05:05:15 pm
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/537297_274533832624311_122049421206087_581851_1290909963_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cataclysm on March 25, 2012, 12:35:39 am
(http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/429032_10150564366455834_579735833_9108700_1371247652_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on March 25, 2012, 09:19:17 am
No, diet pop has no calories.
thought the diet commercial campaign said half calories

Nope. 0 calories (http://www.drpepper.com/text/products/dietdrpepper/nutrition/).

Also, I tried some Dr Pepper 10 during the Super Bowl. It... tasted worse than the diet.

Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RavynousHunter on March 25, 2012, 04:29:18 pm
I can't stand any diet drinks...I have a very sensitive sense of taste, no matter how close they claim their artificial sweetener tastes to sugar, I can taste the difference, and I have a natural revulsion to it.

If I'm drinkin a damn soda, I want the sugar, I want the caffeine.  GIMMIE!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: starseeker on March 25, 2012, 04:40:37 pm
I find the issue with diet drinks is the texture is sorta empty. Also it doesn't perk me up, which is what I drink soft drinks for in the first place.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on March 25, 2012, 05:17:05 pm
Odd, I find sugared drinks to be repulsive unless it's sweetened iced tea.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Osama bin Bambi on March 25, 2012, 07:19:04 pm
My dad buys Mexican Coca-Cola because apparently it uses cane sugar and not aspartame (which according to him causes cancer).

I think all soda tastes like piss, by the way.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: SimSim on March 25, 2012, 07:31:10 pm
That makes no sense. Aspartame is used in diet sodas, not regular sodas.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Eniliad on March 25, 2012, 07:41:38 pm
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m1aqdm8pUM1qjvxfho1_500.jpg)

Why is frothy hugging his balls while he prays?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on March 25, 2012, 07:53:16 pm
That makes no sense. Aspartame is used in diet sodas, not regular sodas.

And it doesn't cause cancer, either.

Drinking too much of it is bad, but then, so is consuming too much of ANYTHING.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: starseeker on March 25, 2012, 08:03:38 pm
My dad buys Mexican Coca-Cola because apparently it uses cane sugar and not aspartame (which according to him causes cancer).

I think all soda tastes like piss, by the way.

Thought normal American coke uses High Fructose Corn Syrup (which I find tastes odd).
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on March 25, 2012, 08:08:14 pm
(http://images1.dailykos.com/i/user/310373/854small.png)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: MadCatTLX on March 25, 2012, 08:10:50 pm
My dad buys Mexican Coca-Cola because apparently it uses cane sugar and not aspartame (which according to him causes cancer).

I think all soda tastes like piss, by the way.

I've heard worse. I heard someone say aspartame is part of a government conspiracy to kill all the black people for population control. And somehow Michael Jackson's death was worked into it. I think it was something about him being killed so he didn't tell everyone about the conspiracy :o. Why would he know? I guess someone told him thinking he was one of us whiteys or something. The person who said this was an otherwise "normal" and sane person.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: SimSim on March 25, 2012, 08:24:16 pm
My dad buys Mexican Coca-Cola because apparently it uses cane sugar and not aspartame (which according to him causes cancer).

I think all soda tastes like piss, by the way.

Thought normal American coke uses High Fructose Corn Syrup (which I find tastes odd).
Yeah, Coke and most sodas here contain HFCS.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Smurfette Principle on March 25, 2012, 08:37:40 pm
(http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m1g7rofXTy1qcxyrro1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Osama bin Bambi on March 25, 2012, 09:54:47 pm
My dad buys Mexican Coca-Cola because apparently it uses cane sugar and not aspartame (which according to him causes cancer).

I think all soda tastes like piss, by the way.

I've heard worse. I heard someone say aspartame is part of a government conspiracy to kill all the black people for population control. And somehow Michael Jackson's death was worked into it. I think it was something about him being killed so he didn't tell everyone about the conspiracy :o. Why would he know? I guess someone told him thinking he was one of us whiteys or something. The person who said this was an otherwise "normal" and sane person.

According to my dad, aspartame is just another plot by Big Pharma (which is run by the Bilderberg eugenicists) to give people cancer. Michael Jackson was killed by Big Pharma assassins to distract people from "what's really going on", but has little to do with aspartame.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: QueenofHearts on March 25, 2012, 09:59:11 pm
My dad buys Mexican Coca-Cola because apparently it uses cane sugar and not aspartame (which according to him causes cancer).

I think all soda tastes like piss, by the way.

I've heard worse. I heard someone say aspartame is part of a government conspiracy to kill all the black people for population control. And somehow Michael Jackson's death was worked into it. I think it was something about him being killed so he didn't tell everyone about the conspiracy :o. Why would he know? I guess someone told him thinking he was one of us whiteys or something. The person who said this was an otherwise "normal" and sane person.

According to my dad, aspartame is just another plot by Big Pharma (which is run by the Bilderberg eugenicists) to give people cancer. Michael Jackson was killed by Big Pharma assassins to distract people from "what's really going on", but has little to do with aspartame.

Your dad sounds like an "interesting" person.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cataclysm on March 25, 2012, 10:29:37 pm
Does he watch a lot of Alex Jones?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Osama bin Bambi on March 25, 2012, 10:53:08 pm
Does he watch a lot of Alex Jones?

He watches Alex Jones. I don't know how often though.

I kind of wonder what would happen if I wrote a sci-fi/fantasy book with this "mythos" in place.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: QueenofHearts on March 25, 2012, 10:54:53 pm
He watches Alex Jones. I don't know how often though.

I kind of wonder what would happen if I wrote a sci-fi/fantasy book with this "mythos" in place.

You should do it, they say the best art comes from a dark place and I think it would make a good film.  :)

Then again, I'm sure my dad could make just as bizarre a sci-fi-flick.  :(
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Osama bin Bambi on March 25, 2012, 11:00:30 pm
He watches Alex Jones. I don't know how often though.

I kind of wonder what would happen if I wrote a sci-fi/fantasy book with this "mythos" in place.

You should do it, they say the best art comes from a dark place and I think it would make a good film.  :)

Then again, I'm sure my dad could make just as bizarre a sci-fi-flick.  :(

I've actually played around with the idea of genetically enhanced Chaotic Stupid cat mercenaries that have to contend with a bunch of other evil organizations of my own devising. I want to throw in PETA and my dad's conspiracy theories for the lulz. And then I'll twist it around and say it's actually about art. Yeah, it's stupid. Whatcha gonna do about it? ::)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: MadCatTLX on March 25, 2012, 11:24:57 pm
My dad buys Mexican Coca-Cola because apparently it uses cane sugar and not aspartame (which according to him causes cancer).

I think all soda tastes like piss, by the way.

I've heard worse. I heard someone say aspartame is part of a government conspiracy to kill all the black people for population control. And somehow Michael Jackson's death was worked into it. I think it was something about him being killed so he didn't tell everyone about the conspiracy :o. Why would he know? I guess someone told him thinking he was one of us whiteys or something. The person who said this was an otherwise "normal" and sane person.

According to my dad, aspartame is just another plot by Big Pharma (which is run by the Bilderberg eugenicists) to give people cancer. Michael Jackson was killed by Big Pharma assassins to distract people from "what's really going on", but has little to do with aspartame.

Does he realize how insane that sounds? Why the fuck would a pharmaceutical company have or hire assassins? Why would you give peoplle cancer, aren't there enough natural disease that you could make money off of by finding a treatment?

Also, does he realize just how stupid and silly the term "Big Pharma" sounds? ;D
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Meshakhad on March 26, 2012, 12:15:16 am
I prefer my Michael Jackson theory: namely, that he was assassinated by Iran to distract the world from the protests.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Yla on March 26, 2012, 02:35:57 am
(http://images1.dailykos.com/i/user/310373/854small.png)
Sorry, but that hardly qualifies as a 'Best' cartoon. I may agree with its message, but I can't find it actually funny.

(That's actually what's wrong with this (and the other) entire thread. 'Best' and 'Worst' are supposed to be about quality, instead they're divided along political stance)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Osama bin Bambi on March 26, 2012, 02:41:36 am
Why the fuck would a pharmaceutical company have or hire assassins?

I don't know, but if Dr. McNinja is anything to go by, it's probably possible.

I HAZ THE DOCK-YOO-MINTS
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on March 26, 2012, 12:25:41 pm
(http://images1.dailykos.com/i/user/310373/854small.png)
Sorry, but that hardly qualifies as a 'Best' cartoon. I may agree with its message, but I can't find it actually funny.

(That's actually what's wrong with this (and the other) entire thread. 'Best' and 'Worst' are supposed to be about quality, instead they're divided along political stance)

"Best" can also apply to the message, when did the message of the cartoon stop applying, if you come across a right wing cartoon with a good message please post it.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Thejebusfire on March 26, 2012, 01:36:44 pm
(http://media.zenfs.com/en_us/News/ucomics.com/po120322.gif)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Her3tiK on March 26, 2012, 02:02:45 pm
(http://images1.dailykos.com/i/user/310373/854small.png)
Sorry, but that hardly qualifies as a 'Best' cartoon. I may agree with its message, but I can't find it actually funny.

(That's actually what's wrong with this (and the other) entire thread. 'Best' and 'Worst' are supposed to be about quality, instead they're divided along political stance)

"Best" can also apply to the message, when did the message of the cartoon stop applying, if you come across a right wing cartoon with a good message please post it.
Is anyone else jealous of him getting launched in a rocket?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on March 26, 2012, 03:12:43 pm
Just to make Yla happy
(http://www.usnews.com/usnews/php/galleries/image.php/396/12/12.jpg)

I sure would love to see if the cartoonist(Micheal Ramirez) feels the same way towards conservative superpacs, after all he is a conservative...
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Kit Walker on March 26, 2012, 04:05:20 pm
I sure would love to see if the cartoonist(Micheal Ramirez) feels the same way towards conservative superpacs, after all he is a conservative...

Watch out, you might be falling into the "Bill Cinton had an affair, why don't liberals go him like they do (Insert Most Recent Case Here)?" trap. The cartoon appears to be criticizing Obama for simultaneously railing against Super PACS while using one or similar fundraising methods himself (whether or not that's accurate? I don't know). The cartoon itself isn't trying to express any sort of view on SuperPACS.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on March 26, 2012, 04:17:12 pm
I sure would love to see if the cartoonist(Micheal Ramirez) feels the same way towards conservative superpacs, after all he is a conservative...

Watch out, you might be falling into the "Bill Cinton had an affair, why don't liberals go him like they do (Insert Most Recent Case Here)?" trap. The cartoon appears to be criticizing Obama for simultaneously railing against Super PACS while using one or similar fundraising methods himself (whether or not that's accurate? I don't know). The cartoon itself isn't trying to express any sort of view on SuperPACS.
Sadly Obama did say he hates superpacs while having one
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Thejebusfire on March 26, 2012, 04:43:36 pm
(http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m1ec5w9OTE1r7x8yvo1_400.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cerim Treascair on March 26, 2012, 04:52:07 pm
Dammit, how well I know that feeling, jebus.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Thejebusfire on March 26, 2012, 05:21:07 pm
I'll probably become well acquainted with that feeling once I leave college.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: gyeonghwa on March 26, 2012, 05:31:34 pm
(http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m1ec5w9OTE1r7x8yvo1_400.jpg)

Just to make this message even stronger:

(http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/428331_392981047398207_100000589451781_1423929_612034497_n.jpg)

You can barely live off minimum wage and yet Republicans want to get rid of it all together.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RavynousHunter on March 26, 2012, 07:45:43 pm
Of course, we can't have poor people eating, now can we?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: N. De Plume on March 26, 2012, 08:30:01 pm
Of course, we can't have poor people eating, now can we?

Well, if we let them eat, then they would want refrigerators to keep their food in.


I sure would love to see if the cartoonist(Micheal Ramirez) feels the same way towards conservative superpacs, after all he is a conservative...

Watch out, you might be falling into the "Bill Cinton had an affair, why don't liberals go him like they do (Insert Most Recent Case Here)?" trap. The cartoon appears to be criticizing Obama for simultaneously railing against Super PACS while using one or similar fundraising methods himself (whether or not that's accurate? I don't know). The cartoon itself isn't trying to express any sort of view on SuperPACS.
Sadly Obama did say he hates superpacs while having one

Thing is: As long as super-pacs are allowed, it will be virtually impossible to run any sort of campaign without using one. So it is really a no-win situation for politicians that believe they should be outlawed.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cataclysm on March 27, 2012, 03:39:38 pm
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/548821_367742269936359_100001017677317_1077380_757013627_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Sylvana on March 28, 2012, 03:29:29 am
This is not a political cartoon, but I just didnt know where else to put this. I felt it was pretty powerful.

(http://lolsnaps.com/upload_pic/FckedUpAmericanJustice-17843.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on March 28, 2012, 12:08:13 pm
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/552766_355985161106802_151145894924064_974409_691638518_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on March 28, 2012, 01:11:12 pm
Don't "Treat" on me?

Also, any genuine holders of that card, you're harming your family.  Stop harming your family with your idiocy.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Smurfette Principle on March 28, 2012, 01:52:21 pm
Shouldn't that go in "Worst"...? Or is it satire? I can't tell.

(http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m1ijf3fhrv1qz4sr8o1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Yla on March 28, 2012, 02:01:06 pm
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/552766_355985161106802_151145894924064_974409_691638518_n.jpg)
Apart from the speaking for the family thing and the blatant political digs, this is actually respectable on some level. Putting the money where the mouth is, so to speak, and acknowledge what the consequence of no insurance is.
I just fear that whoever is carrying this card also advocates barring the possibility to others.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on March 28, 2012, 02:10:28 pm
Don't "Treat" on me?

Puns are fun.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on March 28, 2012, 02:12:26 pm
Shouldn't that go in "Worst"...? Or is it satire? I can't tell.

(http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m1ijf3fhrv1qz4sr8o1_500.jpg)
But they earned it unlike all those other poor people *sarcasm*
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on March 28, 2012, 02:47:45 pm
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/543903_353975187974927_339023246136788_951962_1959108827_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Yla on March 28, 2012, 03:44:53 pm
one, two, three.... eight hits that I remember from my mother. No bingo yet, though.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: MadCatTLX on March 28, 2012, 06:29:04 pm
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/543903_353975187974927_339023246136788_951962_1959108827_n.jpg)

I found a website about the various "chemtrail planes" and what they actually are. http://quinazagga.wordpress.com/2011/09/10/%E2%80%9Cchemtrail%E2%80%9D-aircraft-photos/ (http://quinazagga.wordpress.com/2011/09/10/%E2%80%9Cchemtrail%E2%80%9D-aircraft-photos/)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Osama bin Bambi on March 28, 2012, 08:57:01 pm
I'm totally reposting that.

brb, trolling chemtrailers
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Smurfette Principle on March 28, 2012, 11:36:39 pm
Not a cartoon, but...

(http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m1kdw8r0K21r0kr7vo1_500.png)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on March 29, 2012, 01:21:58 am
Perhaps that could go in Awesome Protest Signs?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RavynousHunter on March 29, 2012, 02:17:46 am
Not a cartoon, but...

(http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m1kdw8r0K21r0kr7vo1_500.png)

Waitwaitwait...you mean Jesus isn't a long-haired white guy in a robe?  MY REALITY, IT HAS BEEN SHATTERED.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Nightangel8212 on March 29, 2012, 04:55:22 am
Today's edition of the Doonesbury strip that the Republicans have a problem with:
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/429656_110620365735111_100003614434810_47902_709631023_n.jpg)

I'm definitely interested in finding out what happens next here... any new comics come out yet, or is this kinda done with?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Smurfette Principle on March 29, 2012, 03:14:23 pm
I think that's the last strip in the series?

Meanwhile, this is accurate:

(http://www.tumblr.com/photo/1280/riotandremember/20125948537/1/tumblr_m1b6liswit1qgn7fz)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: gyeonghwa on March 29, 2012, 04:54:09 pm
(http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/543232_10150712009884805_376185864804_9241803_640147245_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on March 29, 2012, 05:10:28 pm
Today's edition of the Doonesbury strip that the Republicans have a problem with:
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/429656_110620365735111_100003614434810_47902_709631023_n.jpg)

I'm definitely interested in finding out what happens next here... any new comics come out yet, or is this kinda done with?

Did anyone ever get the feeling that the doxtor and nurse were essentially forced into this, and that was why they were making so many sardonic, impersonal remarks?

If so, that's a nice touch.

I could be seeing things, though.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: ironbite on March 29, 2012, 05:23:08 pm
Eh it's Doonsbury.  Not the most conservative of strips

Ironbite-but that illustrates the point beautifully.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on March 29, 2012, 05:25:18 pm
Today's edition of the Doonesbury strip that the Republicans have a problem with:
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/429656_110620365735111_100003614434810_47902_709631023_n.jpg)

I'm definitely interested in finding out what happens next here... any new comics come out yet, or is this kinda done with?

Did anyone ever get the feeling that the doxtor and nurse were essentially forced into this, and that was why they were making so many sardonic, impersonal remarks?

If so, that's a nice touch.

I could be seeing things, though.
Could be or just making quips his writing style is dry and sarcastic
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RavynousHunter on March 29, 2012, 08:45:57 pm
(http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/543232_10150712009884805_376185864804_9241803_640147245_n.jpg)

Yeah...ask Karras what happens when you piss off a spirit of nature.  [HINT: It didn't turn out well.]
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: ironbite on March 29, 2012, 10:02:38 pm
Karras?  As in the Raven Spirit who kills any evil spirt that gets out of line?

Ironbite-I love that guy!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RavynousHunter on March 30, 2012, 12:11:11 am
Nah, this guy:

(http://images.wikia.com/thief/images/0/0e/T2_KarportS.GIF)

Unfortunately, not a spirit or anything...just a Hitler/John Calvin expy who likes to make mechs that shoot explosive cannonballs...amongst other, more monstrous things.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Smurfette Principle on March 30, 2012, 12:23:52 am
(http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m1o661gJH01qa4ff3o1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on March 30, 2012, 05:17:19 pm
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/556557_10150646365984639_8934429638_9383531_814657181_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Zygarde on March 30, 2012, 05:30:17 pm
That is a very creepy image.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on March 30, 2012, 08:35:57 pm
The cowboy hat takes the image home.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Stick Boy on March 30, 2012, 11:58:26 pm
Haven't seen if that's real or not - the Dallas Observer is like a Village Voice for the DFW area.  It's free and I wouldn't put it past them to do a cover like that - the people who always read it won't be swayed and the ones who should see it won't be in the places where you can get it (it's free).  A very effective cover - people in Texas really don't understand the meaning of what they support...
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on March 31, 2012, 10:23:58 pm
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-C4gdZxH2WbI/T0bgEbcRLqI/AAAAAAAADOM/WDXeDCM-R1M/s1600/vcBZ8.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Servo on April 01, 2012, 08:57:25 am
The complete Doonesbury abortion strip collection.

(http://i.imgur.com/rfcGll.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/rfcGl.jpg)

Linked for size.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Thejebusfire on April 01, 2012, 07:30:13 pm
(http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m1tq0sBHTE1r55d2io1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: MadCatTLX on April 01, 2012, 07:54:47 pm
(http://wp.patheos.com/blogs/unreasonablefaith/files/2010/03/crazy-vs-pillar.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cataclysm on April 01, 2012, 08:34:50 pm
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-C4gdZxH2WbI/T0bgEbcRLqI/AAAAAAAADOM/WDXeDCM-R1M/s1600/vcBZ8.jpg)

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/561922_407579522603628_196601040368145_1484783_766263571_n.jpg)

And another one...

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/531859_419015754779565_100000134319102_1759516_1567164127_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Smurfette Principle on April 02, 2012, 01:55:24 pm
The complete Doonesbury abortion strip collection.

(http://i.imgur.com/rfcGll.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/rfcGl.jpg)

Linked for size.

Link doesn't work. 502 bad gateway.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Jodie on April 02, 2012, 05:24:04 pm
It worked for me. :\
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on April 02, 2012, 06:12:18 pm
The complete Doonesbury abortion strip collection.

(http://i.imgur.com/rfcGll.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/rfcGl.jpg)

Linked for size.

Link doesn't work. 502 bad gateway.
that is a temporary error ususally
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on April 03, 2012, 01:05:51 am
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/545816_403878566291169_211907195488308_1644897_432549944_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on April 03, 2012, 11:45:37 pm
Quote
Oh!  Taxes!  How quaint!

ROFL!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Thejebusfire on April 04, 2012, 05:50:58 pm
(http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m0u7yyND9q1qbu6fno1_500.jpg)

(http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m1ve30IUmm1r55d2io1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on April 04, 2012, 09:37:19 pm
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/532987_375570482466266_100000399518144_1192929_1810468328_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: N. De Plume on April 04, 2012, 09:56:57 pm
Anyone want to petition Michelle to do that and see if we can get that to really happen?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RavynousHunter on April 04, 2012, 10:32:13 pm
Convincing the First Lady to unleash the troll within?  I support this motion.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cataclysm on April 04, 2012, 11:47:18 pm
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/540197_296789887059066_100001841710475_701214_304850830_n.jpg)

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/545861_411006228909780_350770468266690_1710281_231460030_n.jpg)

(http://www.addictinginfo.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/91058529-stand-your-from-img-allvoices-com.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: DiscoBerry on April 05, 2012, 07:55:30 pm
(http://i937.photobucket.com/albums/ad220/mrtraffic97/555931_424554170903433_108038612554992_1617595_1003774086_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on April 05, 2012, 08:01:31 pm
(http://media.timesfreepress.com/img/photos/2012/04/04/120405_The_Good_Deed_t618.jpg?ba5b5b122dd3d37cc13d83e92a6a0ec0d5bfa32a)

(http://media.timesfreepress.com/img/photos/2012/04/03/120404_Really_t618.jpg?ba5b5b122dd3d37cc13d83e92a6a0ec0d5bfa32a)

(http://media.timesfreepress.com/img/photos/2012/03/29/120329_Good_Advice_t618.jpg?ba5b5b122dd3d37cc13d83e92a6a0ec0d5bfa32a)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: chad sexington on April 05, 2012, 08:59:11 pm
(http://media.timesfreepress.com/img/photos/2012/04/03/120404_Really_t618.jpg?ba5b5b122dd3d37cc13d83e92a6a0ec0d5bfa32a)

Aww, what a happy poodle! :D
I know they're seen as frou-frou dogs, but poodles really are quite mad.  Then again, they're french hunting dogs, so what do you expect :P
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on April 05, 2012, 09:17:32 pm
(http://i937.photobucket.com/albums/ad220/mrtraffic97/555931_424554170903433_108038612554992_1617595_1003774086_n.jpg)

I love Eisenhower. For that very reason. He may not have been perfect but he knew what he was talkin' about.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on April 05, 2012, 09:32:21 pm
(http://media.timesfreepress.com/img/photos/2012/04/03/120404_Really_t618.jpg?ba5b5b122dd3d37cc13d83e92a6a0ec0d5bfa32a)

Actually, I kinda think this belongs in Worst, simply because it's using "They're like those big burly men forced to walk girly dogs" as an implied insult :-/

As someone who thinks men shouldn't care about whether they walk manly, big, small, or girly dogs, it feels a bit... oh, what's the term... homophobic?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Auri-El on April 05, 2012, 09:51:45 pm
I thought it was that Mitt is nothing more than a well-trained dog answering to the GOP.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: KZN02 on April 05, 2012, 10:02:43 pm
(http://i937.photobucket.com/albums/ad220/mrtraffic97/555931_424554170903433_108038612554992_1617595_1003774086_n.jpg)
Of course, further back, there were liberals in the Republican party and conservatives in the Democrat, I believe. I'm rather confused with the switch. Correct me if I'm wrong though.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: N. De Plume on April 05, 2012, 10:46:00 pm
I thought it was that Mitt is nothing more than a well-trained dog answering to the GOP.

Too much contrast between burly biker and frou-frou dog  for it to be just that. Bikers are supposed to have rotweilers or dobermans, right? Tough dog for tough guy.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: chad sexington on April 05, 2012, 10:47:31 pm
I thought it was that Mitt is nothing more than a well-trained dog answering to the GOP.

I think that would have worked better if he'd made it a less specific dog.

Content!  I'm not sure if this belongs here, or in the Bad Cartoons thread, but it makes me giggle like a lunatic:
(http://i.imgur.com/rpKnM.jpg)
Between the ridiculously tiny hat, and the cowboy turkey, I find it hilarious.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cerim Treascair on April 05, 2012, 10:48:33 pm
Chad: I kinda want context on that, that's pretty awesome.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: chad sexington on April 05, 2012, 10:54:49 pm
I don't know any more than you do.  From the image itself, I image Sen. Shortey was once attacked by a turkey, so he wants open-carry in his home state so he can defend himself from those pesky wildfowl.
The tiny hat probably means he's a bit of an city cowboy, I guess.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Damen on April 05, 2012, 11:11:53 pm
Personally, I'm of two minds on the issue of open carry, but this may help give some background on the subject.

http://www.tulsaworld.com/opinion/article.aspx?subjectid=61&articleid=20120331_61_A22_CUTLIN208748 (http://www.tulsaworld.com/opinion/article.aspx?subjectid=61&articleid=20120331_61_A22_CUTLIN208748)

Of course, as far as I'm concerned, if you're worried about wild turkeys then concealed carry is fine.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cataclysm on April 05, 2012, 11:12:37 pm
(http://media.timesfreepress.com/img/photos/2012/04/03/120404_Really_t618.jpg?ba5b5b122dd3d37cc13d83e92a6a0ec0d5bfa32a)

Actually, I kinda think this belongs in Worst, simply because it's using "They're like those big burly men forced to walk girly dogs" as an implied insult :-/

As someone who thinks men shouldn't care about whether they walk manly, big, small, or girly dogs, it feels a bit... oh, what's the term... homophobic?

Which is probably  how the GOP sees itself with Romney. (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/FridgeBrilliance)

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/425658_260519884025027_253546571389025_728996_1977923660_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: The Right Honourable Mlle Antéchrist on April 05, 2012, 11:42:12 pm
Pfft. The woman doesn't count as a person.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: gyeonghwa on April 06, 2012, 06:54:23 pm
(http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/424081_373391726028584_125955227438903_1181233_513823199_n.jpg)

Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Thejebusfire on April 07, 2012, 12:57:08 pm
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m24aztOaB11r55d2io1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cataclysm on April 07, 2012, 02:48:11 pm
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/535598_3008484060018_1499951260_32249808_1105695733_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: SpaceProg on April 07, 2012, 03:16:57 pm
What do the bugs have to do with it?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Kristine on April 07, 2012, 03:45:15 pm
(http://www.inevitablezombieapocalypse.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/obama-reaganomics-zombies-300x206.gif)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Osama bin Bambi on April 07, 2012, 06:03:07 pm
(http://www.inevitablezombieapocalypse.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/obama-reaganomics-zombies-300x206.gif)

I'm pretty sure this showed up earlier in the thread but it's a great comic anyway.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Damen on April 07, 2012, 06:10:42 pm
(http://www.forgetthebox.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/6a00e550264071883301156fc5cd92970c-500wi.jpg)

(http://www.religioustolerance.org/dadt.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on April 07, 2012, 09:14:20 pm
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/523376_422152304478089_224319224261399_1633812_1130382669_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Diamandahagan on April 07, 2012, 09:15:27 pm
(http://www.religioustolerance.org/dadt.jpg)

the left one.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: SpaceProg on April 08, 2012, 01:09:13 am
(http://www.religioustolerance.org/dadt.jpg)

Wow, that's a strong, simple, image.  Powerful.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Osama bin Bambi on April 08, 2012, 03:56:20 am
(http://www.classwarfareexists.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/Words-as-visuals1.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lt. Fred on April 08, 2012, 04:12:46 am
(http://www.religioustolerance.org/dadt.jpg)

One of the best cartoons I've ever seen.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Osama bin Bambi on April 08, 2012, 04:21:06 am
(http://www.religioustolerance.org/dadt.jpg)

One of the best cartoons I've ever seen.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cataclysm on April 08, 2012, 04:12:31 pm
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/305973_3010608993140_1499951260_32251024_497757915_n.jpg)

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/559519_3010565472052_1499951260_32250996_257132571_n.jpg)

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/s320x320/527849_3010604353024_1499951260_32251018_112641322_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on April 08, 2012, 05:23:03 pm
(http://www.religioustolerance.org/dadt.jpg)

I still love that one. Think I put it in the old thread.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Osama bin Bambi on April 08, 2012, 05:30:20 pm
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/s320x320/527849_3010604353024_1499951260_32251018_112641322_n.jpg)

Fuckin' saved. Thanks for finding it. Are there any more memes like this?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on April 08, 2012, 07:33:45 pm
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/s320x320/527849_3010604353024_1499951260_32251018_112641322_n.jpg)

In theory, the part with it not applying to private business isn't that bad, but it does ignore that there are some places where racism is a part of life, and that it says it's ok for one dick to infringe on other's liberty based on petty bs like the color of ones skin. Also those newletters don't really help Ron out on the racist stuff, especially since he was going around pimping them out, plus if there's a newletter being printed in my name, I would sure the hell make sure to read the fucking shit, so I know no bs is being printed in my name, and put a stop to the crap. With the newsletters, he's either a racist, or he's incompetent.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on April 08, 2012, 08:54:49 pm
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/s320x320/527849_3010604353024_1499951260_32251018_112641322_n.jpg)

In theory, the part with it not applying to private business isn't that bad, but it does ignore that there are some places where racism is a part of life, and that it says it's ok for one dick to infringe on other's liberty based on petty bs like the color of ones skin. Also those newletters don't really help Ron out on the racist stuff, especially since he was going around pimping them out, plus if there's a newletter being printed in my name, I would sure the hell make sure to read the fucking shit, so I know no bs is being printed in my name, and put a stop to the crap. With the newsletters, he's either a racist, or he's incompetent.
'
I think he admitted to reviewing them so racist
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Osama bin Bambi on April 08, 2012, 09:01:09 pm
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/s320x320/527849_3010604353024_1499951260_32251018_112641322_n.jpg)

In theory, the part with it not applying to private business isn't that bad, but it does ignore that there are some places where racism is a part of life, and that it says it's ok for one dick to infringe on other's liberty based on petty bs like the color of ones skin. Also those newletters don't really help Ron out on the racist stuff, especially since he was going around pimping them out, plus if there's a newletter being printed in my name, I would sure the hell make sure to read the fucking shit, so I know no bs is being printed in my name, and put a stop to the crap. With the newsletters, he's either a racist, or he's incompetent.
'
I think he admitted to reviewing them so racist

The newsletters not only bear his name, but he reviewed and signed off on every single one, which means he implicitly endorses their bigoted statements. Some Paulbots argue that the Ron Paul Freedom Report was written and edited by a ghost writer, not Paul himself. However, if that's the case then it would still only prove Paul's incompetence. From reading the newsletters, it's very clear that the group he was trying to rally was angry white racists.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Mechtaur on April 08, 2012, 09:09:18 pm
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In theory, the part with it not applying to private business isn't that bad, but it does ignore that there are some places where racism is a part of life, and that it says it's ok for one dick to infringe on other's liberty based on petty bs like the color of ones skin. Also those newletters don't really help Ron out on the racist stuff, especially since he was going around pimping them out, plus if there's a newletter being printed in my name, I would sure the hell make sure to read the fucking shit, so I know no bs is being printed in my name, and put a stop to the crap. With the newsletters, he's either a racist, or he's incompetent.
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I think he admitted to reviewing them so racist

The newsletters not only bear his name, but he reviewed and signed off on every single one, which means he implicitly endorses their bigoted statements. Some Paulbots argue that the Ron Paul Freedom Report was written and edited by a ghost writer, not Paul himself. However, if that's the case then it would still only prove Paul's incompetence. From reading the newsletters, it's very clear that the group he was trying to rally was angry white racists.

Well, hey, if you absolutely hated any minority races, you'd probably be gunning for policies that made it so you didn't have to treat them like people either.

Paul's obsession with the "free market" basically stems from the fact that white males dominate businesses and not wanting to let anyone he deems a "lesser" get to an equal position of power. Of course, there are the unfortunate few that believe it is really for the best, as well as those corrupt asses that just want more of the pie.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on April 09, 2012, 01:06:22 pm
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Kit Walker on April 09, 2012, 05:29:21 pm
Hey! Bruce Campbell can rock a Hawaiian shirt too!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: e13 on April 09, 2012, 06:28:11 pm
Hey! Bruce Campbell can rock a Hawaiian shirt too!
Bruce Campbell rocks anything and everything, therefore making it impossible to always mention him as an exception.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Osama bin Bambi on April 09, 2012, 07:58:43 pm
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In theory, the part with it not applying to private business isn't that bad, but it does ignore that there are some places where racism is a part of life, and that it says it's ok for one dick to infringe on other's liberty based on petty bs like the color of ones skin. Also those newletters don't really help Ron out on the racist stuff, especially since he was going around pimping them out, plus if there's a newletter being printed in my name, I would sure the hell make sure to read the fucking shit, so I know no bs is being printed in my name, and put a stop to the crap. With the newsletters, he's either a racist, or he's incompetent.
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I think he admitted to reviewing them so racist

The newsletters not only bear his name, but he reviewed and signed off on every single one, which means he implicitly endorses their bigoted statements. Some Paulbots argue that the Ron Paul Freedom Report was written and edited by a ghost writer, not Paul himself. However, if that's the case then it would still only prove Paul's incompetence. From reading the newsletters, it's very clear that the group he was trying to rally was angry white racists.

Well, hey, if you absolutely hated any minority races, you'd probably be gunning for policies that made it so you didn't have to treat them like people either.

Paul's obsession with the "free market" basically stems from the fact that white males dominate businesses and not wanting to let anyone he deems a "lesser" get to an equal position of power. Of course, there are the unfortunate few that believe it is really for the best, as well as those corrupt asses that just want more of the pie.

Paul's been trying to change his tune about the "free market" lately. Don't get me wrong, he still supports it, but now instead of peddling racism, he's peddling conspiracy theories about the Federal Reserve. He thinks that the Fed should be abolished and that the United States should switch back their currency to the gold standard. He seems to have forgotten the reasons why we established the Fed and switched off the gold standard in the first place.

I like the idea of free markets but only as long as there are sufficient laws in place to protect the rights of consumers, provided that those laws do not lead to a case where the government thinks it knows better than you and acts accordingly, leaves burdens on its taxpayers (who are usually lower- or middle-class, due to tax cuts for the rich), or is influenced by lobbyists (which lets some powerful corporations use the law to hurt small businesses and other competitors).
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Servo on April 10, 2012, 04:51:06 am
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on April 10, 2012, 03:49:58 pm
I like how it's Ordinary Kid and Rich Bastard making talking points
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Smurfette Principle on April 10, 2012, 07:17:27 pm
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Her3tiK on April 10, 2012, 07:20:10 pm
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I think I love you for this.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Osama bin Bambi on April 10, 2012, 08:31:52 pm
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: gyeonghwa on April 10, 2012, 08:44:21 pm
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Quasirodent on April 10, 2012, 10:55:43 pm
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Reddit Bingo

Er... is it bad that I've used the 'culturist' line?   >_>
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on April 10, 2012, 11:40:04 pm
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Thejebusfire on April 11, 2012, 08:37:57 pm
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cataclysm on April 11, 2012, 11:44:28 pm
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lt. Fred on April 12, 2012, 03:49:01 am
Sadly, the author is a Glibertarian or it could have been quite funny.

"You can have a toaster if you work thirty hours for it. And even then it won't work."
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: SpaceProg on April 12, 2012, 03:53:51 am
Sadly, the author is a Glibertarian or it could have been quite funny.

"You can have a toaster if you work thirty hours for it. And even then it won't work."

"...But here's a joint to make you not care!"
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: MadCatTLX on April 12, 2012, 11:46:45 am
Sadly, the author is a Glibertarian or it could have been quite funny.

"You can have a toaster if you work thirty hours for it. And even then it won't work."

I've never heard the term "Glibertarian". Can you explain what it means? Or did you just misspell Libertarian.

Of all the ones in the post, socialist sounds the most sane. However the problem is that any "pure" system doesn't work anywhere but on paper. The best I've seen so far is a capitalist/socialist hybrid, which is what most first world countries are currently, despite most claiming they aren't.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Quasirodent on April 12, 2012, 12:05:36 pm
The term I've seen lately is 'Centrist'.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_Way_%28centrism%29

I think Canada could do with a larger population and slightly more socialist leaning - like in the 80s - but it's doing pretty well.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on April 12, 2012, 01:12:32 pm
Actually, combining Socialism and Capitalism's ideas makes sense (once you remove Capitalism's snobbiness)

Everyone working and chipping in to get something that's mutually beneficial.

...

Funny how that actually more or less mirrors my views on how America stands to benefit most...
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Thejebusfire on April 12, 2012, 02:00:18 pm
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on April 12, 2012, 02:04:52 pm
Sadly, the author is a Glibertarian or it could have been quite funny.

"You can have a toaster if you work thirty hours for it. And even then it won't work."

I've never heard the term "Glibertarian". Can you explain what it means? Or did you just misspell Libertarian.

Of all the ones in the post, socialist sounds the most sane. However the problem is that any "pure" system doesn't work anywhere but on paper. The best I've seen so far is a capitalist/socialist hybrid, which is what most first world countries are currently, despite most claiming they aren't.

 He spelled it right, it's a slur (http://www.barrypopik.com/index.php/new_york_city/entry/glibertarian_glib_libertarian/).
Also as you said pure systems only work out in theory. Don't get me wrong libertarianism can be nice in minimum doses, and the fact that libertarianism here in the US, has been tainted with the crap that Ayn Rand has vomited up, would result in an whole lot of ugly, if a "pure system" was to ever come about.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on April 12, 2012, 02:29:51 pm
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on April 12, 2012, 02:33:38 pm
First one's amusing.  Second one is kinda...

Mmm... what's a good phrase...

...Blowing the issue up to severe proportions?

(Of course, it could be well-deserved)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on April 12, 2012, 02:38:02 pm
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Well that just means that bringing guns to a protests is the proper way to get your voice heard since the police won't dare to do anything. And even if the police would try to disarm them then the Teapartiers would be justified in using deadly force since the police would obviously be the arm of a tyrannical goverment that is trying to trample on the freedom of speech - one of the most important rights that US citizens have, second only to the right to bear arms.

On the other hand if the commies/darkies bring guns to a protest then they should be shot on sight. Stinking commies trying to cause rumpus...

/teabagger
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on April 12, 2012, 02:40:41 pm
What I'd like to see is a political cartoon showing both Tea Party and OWS looking angry.

The Tea Party is holding up guns, and the OWS is only carrying signs.

And a little subtitle under Tea Party saying

^Never been touched by Police

and

^Been tear-gassed for trying to help injured protestors, and arrested for "being too violent"

under OWS
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Thejebusfire on April 12, 2012, 06:18:33 pm
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lt. Fred on April 12, 2012, 07:36:50 pm
I use the term Glibertarian to distinguish sub-human Randroids from people like Noam Chomsky or the followers of Proudhon or Bakunin. I may not agree with libertarianism any more, but they shouldn't have to share an ideology with that filth.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Thejebusfire on April 12, 2012, 07:41:58 pm
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: largeham on April 12, 2012, 08:34:01 pm
I use the term Glibertarian to distinguish sub-human Randroids from people like Noam Chomsky or the followers of Proudhon or Bakunin. I may not agree with libertarianism any more, but they shouldn't have to share an ideology with that filth.

I've never understood why Proudhon is so popular with anarchists. What he proposes is simply anarcho-capitalism with everyone being a small business owner.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lt. Fred on April 12, 2012, 09:48:32 pm
With equal distribution of wealth and little to no private property...
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on April 13, 2012, 12:50:06 am
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Here's more info (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/11/allen-west-democrats-communist-party_n_1417279.html) to clear up the cartoon.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cataclysm on April 13, 2012, 01:12:19 am
I use the term Glibertarian to distinguish sub-human Randroids from people like Noam Chomsky or the followers of Proudhon or Bakunin. I may not agree with libertarianism any more, but they shouldn't have to share an ideology with that filth.

I've never understood why Proudhon is so popular with anarchists. What he proposes is simply anarcho-capitalism with everyone being a small business owner.

So is it like syndicalism?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: largeham on April 13, 2012, 01:52:58 am
With equal distribution of wealth and little to no private property...
Nor, private property would still exist. Everyone one would be petty-bourgeois.

So is it like syndicalism?
No, syndicalists are 'traditional' anarchists except that they look to the working class as the revolutionary agent (I like to think most anarchists do, but some don't) and are willing to work with current unions and workers organisations.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Kristine on April 13, 2012, 02:27:20 am
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lt. Fred on April 13, 2012, 05:42:28 am
With equal distribution of wealth and little to no private property...
Nor, private property would still exist. Everyone one would be petty-bourgeois.

"Property is Theft?"
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Jack Mann on April 13, 2012, 06:07:40 am
With equal distribution of wealth and little to no private property...
Nor, private property would still exist. Everyone one would be petty-bourgeois.

"Property is Theft?"

He also said "Property is Liberty."  Essentially, he held that there were two kinds of property.  There was property that you had because you used force (government, police, etc.) and property you had because you worked for it (land you personally cultivated, tools of your trade, the fruits of your labor).  How this is supposed to be enforced is, as in all anarchies, left vague.  Presumably the magic anarchy fairies stroll around protecting people's rights.  Or somesuch.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lt. Fred on April 13, 2012, 07:12:23 am
Proudhon believed in the equal distribution of wealth, so no property rights in a capitalist sense. But you can have private property like, you know, family photos and stuff. The inequal distribution of wealth is, among other things, murder and theft and all the rest.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on April 13, 2012, 02:34:53 pm
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I don't get what the joke is supposed to be.  Not very funny.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Her3tiK on April 13, 2012, 02:53:24 pm
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I don't get what the joke is supposed to be.  Not very funny.
It's making fun of those asshats who oppose stem cell research because it "kills babies" (which it doesn't), despite the sheer number of treatments and cures some research can offer.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: largeham on April 13, 2012, 07:56:39 pm
Proudhon believed in the equal distribution of wealth, so no property rights in a capitalist sense. But you can have private property like, you know, family photos and stuff. The inequal distribution of wealth is, among other things, murder and theft and all the rest.

I'll take your word for it. My knowledge of anarchism comes from Wikipedia, socialists and other anarchists, none of which are reliable sources (Wikipedia for obvious reasons, socialists because they don't like anarchists, and anarchists because many of them know shit all about anarchism. I met someone at Occupy Melbourne who called himself an anarchist but then said he doesn't believe class exists).
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on April 13, 2012, 11:17:17 pm
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cataclysm on April 14, 2012, 02:15:48 am
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Thejebusfire on April 14, 2012, 03:22:38 pm
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on April 14, 2012, 04:18:22 pm
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I would have eliminated the middle class label since the American dream is for everyone and besides less labels is better.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Thejebusfire on April 14, 2012, 05:13:57 pm
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Smurfette Principle on April 14, 2012, 07:23:42 pm
[snip]
I would have eliminated the middle class label since the American dream is for everyone and besides less labels is better.

I would have gotten rid of all the labels. Seriously, "corrupt corporate overlords"?

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BEST.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: largeham on April 14, 2012, 09:36:39 pm
What is this middle class you speak of?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Auri-El on April 14, 2012, 09:43:21 pm
It's a mythical construct put into our collective consciousness by the upper class to trick us into thinking we have a chance of being slightly more than slaves. Its success depends on the general lack of intelligence of the masses, and that's how capitalism really works.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: N. De Plume on April 14, 2012, 10:18:56 pm
[snip]
I would have eliminated the middle class label since the American dream is for everyone and besides less labels is better.

I would have gotten rid of all the labels. Seriously, "corrupt corporate overlords"?

I am not sure how you could get meaning without some label. There really isn’t any decent, easily recognizable symbol in there. I would actually say that the “Corrupt Corporate Overlords” is the most important label, though it probably should be changed to something that could be taken more seriously. The other two labels, we can do with out. Especially “Crumbling American Dream.”
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cataclysm on April 14, 2012, 11:03:01 pm
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RavynousHunter on April 14, 2012, 11:42:12 pm
"Private sector, of course.  Easier to hide my misdeeds."
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: MadCatTLX on April 15, 2012, 12:43:33 am
"Private sector, of course.  Easier to hide my misdeeds."

Ah, then you want to go to the Catholic church.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RavynousHunter on April 15, 2012, 12:47:39 am
"Private sector, of course.  Easier to hide my misdeeds."

Ah, then you want to go to the Catholic church.

Biggest, longest-running scam in the history of mankind.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Kristine on April 15, 2012, 03:33:05 am
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: SpaceProg on April 15, 2012, 03:09:49 pm
I know he's just a cartoon, but I want to cartoon-smack him in the face. 
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Jodie on April 15, 2012, 06:03:10 pm
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on April 15, 2012, 08:16:11 pm
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Her3tiK on April 15, 2012, 11:38:18 pm
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Your link is broked!!!!! D:
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cataclysm on April 15, 2012, 11:40:13 pm
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FXD

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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: MadCatTLX on April 15, 2012, 11:50:11 pm
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(http://www.byteland.org/godslaw/tencom_quitman_courthouse.jpg)

Mr. Minister, tear down that statue!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: N. De Plume on April 16, 2012, 07:02:48 am
Seeing that just reminds me of how the whole numbering at 10 thing is rather suspect. See, my school went with the version that had the “No other gods” and “No graven images” bit as one commandment and “Not covet your neighbor’s wife” and “Not covet your neighbor’s stuff” as separate commandments. It was years before I realized there was a different counting scheme going on with a lot of other folks.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Auri-El on April 16, 2012, 07:08:47 am
Funny, it seems like breaking no.10 is the whole point of capitalism.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: N. De Plume on April 16, 2012, 07:24:58 am
Funny, it seems like breaking no.10 is the whole point of capitalism.

Yep. And you know, this morning, I woke up to NPR Morning Edition with a brief story on all the fundies that insist Juesus and the Bible were anti-socialism and whatnot. Go figure.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on April 16, 2012, 07:28:08 am
Funny, it seems like breaking no.10 is the whole point of capitalism.

Yep. And you know, this morning, I woke up to NPR Morning Edition with a brief story on all the fundies that insist Juesus and the Bible were anti-socialism and whatnot. Go figure.
Also respect  your parents dude respect is earned.  According to George Carlin we only need 2 dont steal and dont kill
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Meshakhad on April 16, 2012, 11:53:40 am
Seeing that just reminds me of how the whole numbering at 10 thing is rather suspect. See, my school went with the version that had the “No other gods” and “No graven images” bit as one commandment and “Not covet your neighbor’s wife” and “Not covet your neighbor’s stuff” as separate commandments. It was years before I realized there was a different counting scheme going on with a lot of other folks.

There are at least three counting schemes that I know of. The Jewish one has "I am the LORD your G-D" as the first.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: gyeonghwa on April 16, 2012, 04:41:00 pm
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: SpaceProg on April 16, 2012, 06:20:51 pm
Could also symbolize Rich-Poor relations too.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: e13 on April 16, 2012, 07:16:59 pm
Could also symbolize Rich-Poor relations too.
Which, sadly, is almost the same thing. :/
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: TheL on April 16, 2012, 09:11:49 pm
(http://www.byteland.org/godslaw/tencom_quitman_courthouse.jpg)

Mr. Minister, tear down that statue!

The best part?  Those 10 Commandments statues have nothing to do with America's alleged "Judeo-Christian"* heritage.  They were part of a viral marketing campaign for a 1956 film starring Charlton Heston, the title of which should be obvious.

That's right.  The idiots defending those plaques and statues are basically pushing for the courthouse-property equivalent of a Burma-Shave sign, or a big neon "Eat At Joe's."

* There are Jews.  There are Christians.  But there is not, and never has been, any such fucking thing as a "Judeo-Christian" and the word itself just makes me sick.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: SpaceProg on April 16, 2012, 09:20:23 pm
I thought "Judeo-Christian" was just a catch-all term meaning things pertaining to both Jews and Christians.  At least, when I use it, that's what I mean.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: MadCatTLX on April 16, 2012, 09:21:40 pm
* There are Jews.  There are Christians.  But there is not, and never has been, any such fucking thing as a "Judeo-Christian" and the word itself just makes me sick.

They're pretty much trying to defend the Abrahamic religions while not being hypocritical when they say, "fuck them-thar towel headed sand niggers, nuke 'em all" (I hear this shit every fucking day) in reference to Muslims. They're still hypocritical fuckwits even if most are to stupid to know it, what with all the "Allah is a moon god" shit. They don't even recognize that it's the same as they're god, which like almost everything else is probably stolen from someone else.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on April 16, 2012, 09:25:55 pm
* There are Jews.  There are Christians.  But there is not, and never has been, any such fucking thing as a "Judeo-Christian" and the word itself just makes me sick.

They're pretty much trying to defend the Abrahamic religions while not being hypocritical when they say, "fuck them-thar towel headed sand niggers, nuke 'em all" (I hear this shit every fucking day) in reference to Muslims. They're still hypocritical fuckwits even if most are to stupid to know it, what with all the "Allah is a moon god" shit. They don't even recognize that it's the same as they're god, which like almost everything else is probably stolen from someone else.
To be fair these people are too dumb to know that Arabic speakers call god allah even Christians and they are even less likely to know that many live happy lives
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Thejebusfire on April 16, 2012, 09:32:07 pm
(http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m2kxt8bIHO1qh3h8wo1_500.png)

Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: MadCatTLX on April 16, 2012, 09:45:01 pm
(http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m2kxt8bIHO1qh3h8wo1_500.png)

I gotta say that having a TV channel or book section at Walmart dedicated to people with a certain melanin content in there skin isn't going to help racism go away. How about no one gets a (insert ethnicity) Entertainment Television. From what I've watched of it BET seems to promote stereotypes anyway.

As I have to say every time race comes up, I'm not trying to come off as racist so please don't take it that way. For me equality means everyone is equal, which isn't what is happening now with regard to race and gender. The term "race" seems to imply a different species to me, so why it's still used is a mystery to me. We don't call a spotted dog and a one with a single color different races do we?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on April 16, 2012, 09:48:08 pm
It's an antiquated term that, sadly, isn't going to go away any time soon.

The problem with what you suggest, though, is that it promotes race blindness... which is still very racist and white-leaning.  The fact of the matter is, white people have 10 months out of the year, 95% of all books, and 99% of all video games dedicated to them.  The reason this never gets played up is because it's taken for granted.

And that is precisely WHY there are books and tv channels devoted to black people.  And gay people.  And what have you.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Thejebusfire on April 16, 2012, 10:17:49 pm
Let's not forget that there is a white entertainment channel.


It's called Fox News.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cataclysm on April 16, 2012, 10:20:19 pm
True, but I don't think they should make their race or sexuality a major part of the story, unless it is specifically about civil rights. Stereotypes shouldn't be present. Plus it's not like people who aren't a part of the minority will enjoy it any less  :-\.

Let's not forget that there is a white entertainment channel.


It's called Fox News.

Well, I'm sure everyone finds Fox entertaining, whether intended or not.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: MadCatTLX on April 16, 2012, 10:30:41 pm
It's an antiquated term that, sadly, isn't going to go away any time soon.

The problem with what you suggest, though, is that it promotes race blindness... which is still very racist and white-leaning.  The fact of the matter is, white people have 10 months out of the year, 95% of all books, and 99% of all video games dedicated to them.  The reason this never gets played up is because it's taken for granted.

And that is precisely WHY there are books and tv channels devoted to black people.  And gay people.  And what have you.

With regards to games, that's why I like games like Halo were the character is faceless, or games were you create your own character. I almost always play as a character that is "faceless", like wear a gasmask (I <3 gasmasks) or such. Anything else breaks the immersion for me. The biggest thing that drove me crazy About Saints Row 3 as opposed to 2 is that the decreased the customization and there aren't any pieces of clothing in the game that cover your face until near the end.

Hopefully within the next couple decades the US will move forward enough that it will be everyone's time all the time. Anything else just drives me insane.

True, but I don't think they should make their race or sexuality a major part of the story, unless it is specifically about civil rights. Stereotypes shouldn't be present. Plus it's not like people who aren't a part of the minority will enjoy it any less  :-\.


Exactly, it shouldn't matter any more than thee characters hair color. I read an Alex Cross book a while back and didn't even realize until the third chapter or later that Alex was black. I didn't care and it didn't matter.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lt. Fred on April 17, 2012, 12:34:17 am
Mainstream culture is white. Black people have their own culture, born of being treated differently. So there are things for that culture to live in, like Black History Month and so on.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cataclysm on April 17, 2012, 12:46:23 am
I thought we were a melting pot, having other cultures and races assimilate into the collective.

Resistance is futile.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: MadCatTLX on April 17, 2012, 01:04:56 am
I thought we were a melting pot, having other cultures and races assimilate into the collective.

Resistance is futile.

America used to try to be that. We don't really bother anymore, at least around here. Blatant racism against everyone that isn't white or black(meaning Hispanics, Arabs, etc.) flys.

A great melting pot of acceptance, dreams, and awesome sounds like something else to me. Welcome to the herd.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cataclysm on April 17, 2012, 01:13:53 am
(http://static.fjcdn.com/comments/Bro+Hoof+_fc30f616d8671bb927def7050600d3dd.jpg)

And that reminds me

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FAh9pjvqH0o

Although I think we should focus more on what brings us together instead of what makes us unique.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Kristine on April 17, 2012, 02:53:21 am
Not cartoons - but close...

(http://punditkitchen.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/political-pictures-mitt-romney-and-then-there-was-one.jpg)

(http://punditkitchen.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/political-pictures-theyre-all-the-same.jpg)

(http://punditkitchen.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/political-pictures-good-god.jpg)

(http://punditkitchen.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/political-pictures-newt-gingrich-and-the-shame-cape.jpg)

Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on April 17, 2012, 08:58:51 pm
(http://media.timesfreepress.com/img/photos/2012/04/10/120411_Thats_All_Folks_t618.jpg?ba5b5b122dd3d37cc13d83e92a6a0ec0d5bfa32a)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Smurfette Principle on April 17, 2012, 11:00:57 pm
(http://editorialcartoonists.com/cartoons/FellP/2012/FellP20120409_low.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Quasirodent on April 18, 2012, 12:28:37 am
As I have to say every time race comes up, I'm not trying to come off as racist so please don't take it that way. For me equality means everyone is equal, which isn't what is happening now with regard to race and gender. The term "race" seems to imply a different species to me, so why it's still used is a mystery to me. We don't call a spotted dog and a one with a single color different races do we?

We kind of do, I mean the word 'breed' is prettymuch the same as 'race', isn't it?
In non-domesticated animals, if two populations of animals showed as much regional variation as humans do, they'd probably be considered subspecies.  Subspecies can interbreed, their offspring are viable and fertile, and their differences tend to be superficial.  Like human races.  So I see them that way.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: The Illusive Man on April 18, 2012, 01:49:19 am
(http://media.timesfreepress.com/img/photos/2012/03/15/120315_Good_Luck_t618.jpg?ba5b5b122dd3d37cc13d83e92a6a0ec0d5bfa32a)

Anyone else take this into Photoshop just to see if they could run the maze?

(http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/2499/ay3m5q3o.png)

What do I win?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: QueenofHearts on April 18, 2012, 01:56:26 am
The right to vote in November for the Mitt Romney of your choice!!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Kristine on April 18, 2012, 02:23:58 am
(http://punditkitchen.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/political-pictures-thanks-honey.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Saturn500 on April 18, 2012, 02:13:17 pm
(http://punditkitchen.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/political-pictures-thanks-honey.jpg)

...[Does research on subject]... Nope, still don't get it.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cataclysm on April 18, 2012, 02:45:39 pm
(http://media.timesfreepress.com/img/photos/2012/03/15/120315_Good_Luck_t618.jpg?ba5b5b122dd3d37cc13d83e92a6a0ec0d5bfa32a)

Anyone else take this into Photoshop just to see if they could run the maze?

(http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/2499/ay3m5q3o.png)

What do I win?

A sticker that says "I voted"
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: e13 on April 18, 2012, 02:47:46 pm
(http://media.timesfreepress.com/img/photos/2012/03/15/120315_Good_Luck_t618.jpg?ba5b5b122dd3d37cc13d83e92a6a0ec0d5bfa32a)

Anyone else take this into Photoshop just to see if they could run the maze?

(http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/2499/ay3m5q3o.png)

What do I win?

A sticker that says "I voted"
Shit, I don't even get those when I vote!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on April 18, 2012, 02:47:57 pm
(http://punditkitchen.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/political-pictures-thanks-honey.jpg)

...[Does research on subject]... Nope, still don't get it.

Ejaculation joke?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: The Illusive Man on April 18, 2012, 04:41:57 pm
(http://media.timesfreepress.com/img/photos/2012/03/15/120315_Good_Luck_t618.jpg?ba5b5b122dd3d37cc13d83e92a6a0ec0d5bfa32a)

Anyone else take this into Photoshop just to see if they could run the maze?

(http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/2499/ay3m5q3o.png)

What do I win?

A sticker that says "I voted"
Shit, I don't even get those when I vote!

I wish the prize was that politics would stop being a joke, but alas…
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Auri-El on April 18, 2012, 07:58:09 pm
(http://punditkitchen.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/political-pictures-thanks-honey.jpg)

Thought it was referring to him being actually a good person despite appearing to be the complete opposite. Of a good person.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Kristine on April 18, 2012, 08:59:58 pm
(http://punditkitchen.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/political-pictures-thanks-honey.jpg)

...[Does research on subject]... Nope, still don't get it.
For the past 20 years he has come off as the 'windsock candidate who will go in what ever direction gets him the most power - he was a moderate who was all for health reform, pro-choice, tax law reformation - until he was put up for the highest office - now suddenly he is a dedicated pro-lifer, against any kind of healthcare reform, and likes the tax laws how they are - he has flipped on just about EVERY position he is running on.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cataclysm on April 18, 2012, 09:32:28 pm
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/581533_10150959270229377_654029376_13237811_1805586205_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: e13 on April 18, 2012, 10:27:53 pm
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/581533_10150959270229377_654029376_13237811_1805586205_n.jpg)
Fuck, I wish. The Bishops scare the fuck out of half of them with claims of eternal torment, the Rooks buy off the rest.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cataclysm on April 18, 2012, 11:43:32 pm
More Propaganda I liek.

(http://www.voterocky.org/assets/pages/333/1rockobamaromney.png)

JS did it too.

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/536415_399117333445288_100000410754614_1346230_2123608936_n.jpg)

(http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lx6muomgzL1qztsh3o1_400.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: chad sexington on April 19, 2012, 04:21:06 am
(http://www.basvanoerle.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/jointhecosmonewts.jpg)

More here (http://www.basvanoerle.com/?p=392)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: The Right Honourable Mlle Antéchrist on April 19, 2012, 09:41:09 am
(http://www.basvanoerle.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/jointhecosmonewts.jpg)

More here (http://www.basvanoerle.com/?p=392)

It's about time someone brought order to that lawless wasteland.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on April 19, 2012, 12:14:10 pm
It's about time someone brought order to that lawless wasteland.

I didn't know the moon was Tatooine...


here's a new cartoon
Linked for size (http://boingboing.net/2012/04/11/tom-the-dancing-bug-lucky-duc.html)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on April 19, 2012, 02:11:20 pm
(http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m2mw6uehJK1rqij5go1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on April 19, 2012, 06:28:09 pm
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/581361_431085356905223_646282220_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: The Right Honourable Mlle Antéchrist on April 19, 2012, 06:37:33 pm
I experience epic culture shock every time I see someone refer to Romney as a centrist.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Deus ex Populo on April 19, 2012, 07:07:22 pm
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/383494_10150767464879805_376185864804_9412243_1761188161_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Saturn500 on April 20, 2012, 06:57:21 pm
I think that should go in "worst" because it's less subtle than a giant neon Brian Blessed.

...Someone should really make that in Photoshop.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Thejebusfire on April 20, 2012, 09:18:10 pm
(http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m2t22fLdJR1r55d2io1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: SpaceProg on April 20, 2012, 10:22:05 pm
^ Love that one.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cataclysm on April 20, 2012, 10:26:55 pm
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/523781_3015525547471_1242563809_32325792_1319042980_n.jpg)

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/546288_438461539503101_123284907687434_1920252_1393180745_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Smurfette Principle on April 20, 2012, 10:30:59 pm
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m2s5diN3Rg1r55d2io1_1280.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: MadCatTLX on April 20, 2012, 11:01:09 pm
(http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m2t22fLdJR1r55d2io1_500.jpg)

Why are their heads backwards?

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m2s5diN3Rg1r55d2io1_1280.jpg)

I once knew a 7th grade girl who had two kids!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on April 20, 2012, 11:02:35 pm
15 years old and her daughter is already old enough to speak...?

*squick*
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cataclysm on April 20, 2012, 11:04:38 pm
Maybe she's a prodigy.

But, yeah, I'm sure most states don't teach kids how to use contraception until high school.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: The Right Honourable Mlle Antéchrist on April 20, 2012, 11:12:28 pm
Can't speak for the US, but here in Calgary, we learned about contraception in junior high, and most of us were aware that it existed by the time we were in div 2 of elementary school.

Why are their heads backwards?

I was wondering about that too.

Quote
I once knew a 7th grade girl who had two kids!

Was she in grade 7 due to being left back, or had she somehow managed to have two kids by the age of 12?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RavynousHunter on April 20, 2012, 11:30:16 pm
Maybe she's a prodigy.

But, yeah, I'm sure most states don't teach kids how to use contraception until high school.

If that.  Some states don't teach contraception at all.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Thejebusfire on April 20, 2012, 11:35:43 pm


Why are their heads backwards?


That's actually the only thing I didn't like about that comic.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: N. De Plume on April 20, 2012, 11:46:48 pm
(http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m2t22fLdJR1r55d2io1_500.jpg)

Love the “$peech” bags.

As for the heads, it appears the artist doesn’t know how to draw heads being turned and was unwilling to recompose the image to compensate.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cataclysm on April 20, 2012, 11:50:19 pm


Why are their heads backwards?


That's actually the only thing I didn't like about that comic.

They are owl-people
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: SpaceProg on April 20, 2012, 11:54:37 pm
Ahh... I thought Sam's head was just turned very far and his beard was making the effect more noticeable.

I didn't even notice that Liberty's body was backwards. 

Now that's the ONLY thing I see.

I still like the comic, though I think it could have been done better.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: MadCatTLX on April 21, 2012, 01:50:22 am
Quote
I once knew a 7th grade girl who had two kids!

Was she in grade 7 due to being left back, or had she somehow managed to have two kids by the age of 12?

I think she was 13. I didn't know her personally, so I don't know much about it. I only know about it because someone else told me. I've heard conflicting reports including one saying "her kids" were really her very little sisters and someone mistook them as her "daughters" because they lived with just their dad. While it was likely just a rumor, it honestly wouldn't surprise me if their was a real case like it somewhere nearby. In the one class I shared with her she seemed to hang out with the girl who was caught fingering herself. I recall a girl being pregnant in her freshman year of high school(9th grade), which is only two years later and she was noticeably pregnant by the start of the school year.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Her3tiK on April 21, 2012, 02:56:58 am
Well now that sounds like a totally reliable story, based on the kind of solid evidence we expect of those who make such bold assertions.




That was sarcasm.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: chad sexington on April 21, 2012, 03:54:46 am
She might have had twins.

Though I don't know if any 12/13-year old would be physically capable of carrying twins.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: MadCatTLX on April 21, 2012, 04:04:24 am
Well now that sounds like a totally reliable story, based on the kind of solid evidence we expect of those who make such bold assertions.




That was sarcasm.

I said it was probably a rumor. In retrospect I should have put it in my first mention of it. Sorry for the mistake.   

She might have had twins.

Though I don't know if any 12/13-year old would be physically capable of carrying twins.

Actually... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lina_Medina (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lina_Medina)

Lina Medina is the youngest known mother. She gave birth at the age of five years, seven months and 17 days.

And this whole list: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_youngest_birth_mothers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_youngest_birth_mothers)

All on the list are under twelve. It doesn't say how many and I'm not going to count because it's long, disturbingly long to be honest. Some of the most recent ones are actually from the US, so it's not isolated to third world countries or anything.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: The Prophet Mohammed (PBUM) on April 21, 2012, 06:23:37 am
(http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg710/scaled.php?server=710&filename=i15fc2c4ee1791c3b26c19d.jpg&res=landing)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Sixth Monarchist on April 21, 2012, 08:48:11 am
(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2012/4/20/1334960278788/Martin-Rowson-cartoon-21.-002.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on April 21, 2012, 01:56:57 pm
(http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg710/scaled.php?server=710&filename=i15fc2c4ee1791c3b26c19d.jpg&res=landing)

What
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Quasirodent on April 21, 2012, 02:08:56 pm
What

I think this is a reference to the 2008 scandal wherein massive numbers of deceased people were put onto voting lists in Florida and California (and some other states), and were somehow voting from beyond the grave.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on April 21, 2012, 03:18:20 pm
Okay, I figured it was something along those lines.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Osama bin Bambi on April 21, 2012, 03:20:49 pm
What

I think this is a reference to the 2008 scandal wherein massive numbers of deceased people were put onto voting lists in Florida and California (and some other states), and were somehow voting from beyond the grave.

But we all know that GOP supporters are brain-dead zombies, so it was actually perfectly plausible.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cataclysm on April 21, 2012, 04:27:55 pm
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/399059_419117671434216_100000079615147_1736556_1145736528_n.jpg)

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/545127_441727325844661_259184544098941_1880569_1280215338_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Smurfette Principle on April 21, 2012, 05:44:12 pm
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/399059_419117671434216_100000079615147_1736556_1145736528_n.jpg)

Uh, minus the indefinite detention thing, those are all valid points.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: largeham on April 21, 2012, 07:15:23 pm
Really, I'm a racist because I don't like Obama is valid? I don't understand politics? Killing bin Laden, bringing an end to a decade long useless war, took out Gaddafi in another imperialist war and replaced him with the NTC, made up of Islamist fundies, pro-business/privatisation Western-educated businessmen or simply ex-Gaddafi people. These are all valid points to support Obama? Also, Obama created the Super-Congress, so much for democracy.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Kristine on April 22, 2012, 01:43:17 am
(http://i.imgur.com/uUsyv.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on April 22, 2012, 03:22:06 am
I don't remember if this was already here, but just in case:

(http://media.riemurasia.net/albumit/mmedia/lp/8kv/hggt/3175/804621243.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on April 22, 2012, 03:26:50 am
(http://i.imgur.com/fTTDb.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: N. De Plume on April 22, 2012, 12:08:54 pm
I don't remember if this was already here, but just in case:

(http://media.riemurasia.net/albumit/mmedia/lp/8kv/hggt/3175/804621243.jpg)

I will accept “They kill birds” as a valid argument against wind power, though.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on April 22, 2012, 12:21:17 pm
I will accept “They kill birds” as a valid argument against wind power, though.

Still less damaging than oil spills or coal mine accidents. Even if a windmill breaks down it is less damage to nature/people than if a different type of power plant critically damaged.

Also some people don't like the way windmills look and say that it spoils the natural beauty of the landscape. Not as badly as smoke belching coalplant though.

All things considered I support nuclear, water, wind and solar power but only if the safety precautions (and a safe location) are well thought out.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: N. De Plume on April 22, 2012, 12:47:02 pm
I will accept “They kill birds” as a valid argument against wind power, though.

Still less damaging than oil spills or coal mine accidents. Even if a windmill breaks down it is less damage to nature/people than if a different type of power plant critically damaged.

Indeed.

Quote
Also some people don't like the way windmills look and say that it spoils the natural beauty of the landscape. Not as badly as smoke belching coalplant though.

Yeah. Those people are just being stupid. Personally, I find wind turbines to have a certain beauty of their own.


Quote
All things considered I support nuclear, water, wind and solar power but only if the safety precautions (and a safe location) are well thought out.

The thing that gets me about nuclear is that the waste products it does produce can last too damn long. I just don’t feel it is responsible to push of responsibility for dealing with something onto generations so far removed that we aren’t even sure how to best communicate the importance of that responsibility (http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/green_room/2009/11/atomic_priesthoods_thorn_landscapes_and_munchian_pictograms.html).
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on April 22, 2012, 12:50:55 pm
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/399059_419117671434216_100000079615147_1736556_1145736528_n.jpg)

What do I win for a Bingo, or even the whole card, because they have all been thrown at me, though it is missing one thing: Obama supporters calling you a Paultard or even a tinfoil hatter.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Smurfette Principle on April 22, 2012, 01:48:45 pm
Really, I'm a racist because I don't like Obama is valid? I don't understand politics?

Oops, missed those.

Killing bin Laden, bringing an end to a decade long useless war, took out Gaddafi in another imperialist war and replaced him with the NTC, made up of Islamist fundies, pro-business/privatisation Western-educated businessmen or simply ex-Gaddafi people. These are all valid points to support Obama?

The first two are valid reasons. What would be the alternative? Letting bin Laden go is stupid, and the opposite of ending a useless war is letting it continue. The other candidates were all for staying in Iraq and Afghanistan indefinitely and starting a new war with Iran. How is that not a valid reason to support him? The third is also valid because, unlike Iraq where we invaded a peaceful nation under false pretenses instead of going after the person we were there for in the first place, the people there actually rose up first and needed our help. And Gaddafi was killed by them, not us. We helped, but they actually needed our help, so it's OK.

Also, Obama created the Super-Congress, so much for democracy.

The what now?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on April 22, 2012, 01:55:22 pm
Really, I'm a racist because I don't like Obama is valid? I don't understand politics?

Oops, missed those.

Killing bin Laden, bringing an end to a decade long useless war, took out Gaddafi in another imperialist war and replaced him with the NTC, made up of Islamist fundies, pro-business/privatisation Western-educated businessmen or simply ex-Gaddafi people. These are all valid points to support Obama?

The first two are valid reasons. What would be the alternative? Letting bin Laden go is stupid, and the opposite of ending a useless war is letting it continue. The other candidates were all for staying in Iraq and Afghanistan indefinitely and starting a new war with Iran. How is that not a valid reason to support him? The third is also valid because, unlike Iraq where we invaded a peaceful nation under false pretenses instead of going after the person we were there for in the first place, the people there actually rose up first and needed our help. And Gaddafi was killed by them, not us. We helped, but they actually needed our help, so it's OK.

Also, Obama created the Super-Congress, so much for democracy.

The what now?
Basically the Supercongress was when 3 law makers from each party got to decide most of the budget
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Thejebusfire on April 22, 2012, 02:11:21 pm
(http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m2w7qx8Amn1r55d2io1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Kit Walker on April 22, 2012, 02:16:13 pm
The thing that gets me about nuclear is that the waste products it does produce can last too damn long. I just don’t feel it is responsible to push of responsibility for dealing with something onto generations so far removed that we aren’t even sure how to best communicate the importance of that responsibility (http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/green_room/2009/11/atomic_priesthoods_thorn_landscapes_and_munchian_pictograms.html).

While that's a good point, the other side of that is, to my understanding, the present inability of wind, solar, and hydroelectric power to handle the needs of the entire United States, much less the entire world. The technologies should be further developed, and there may come a day when it is feasible to use them to produce the majority of power, but right now they're not workable on the necessary scale while coal and nuclear are.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on April 22, 2012, 02:57:08 pm
The thing that gets me about nuclear is that the waste products it does produce can last too damn long. I just don’t feel it is responsible to push of responsibility for dealing with something onto generations so far removed that we aren’t even sure how to best communicate the importance of that responsibility (http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/green_room/2009/11/atomic_priesthoods_thorn_landscapes_and_munchian_pictograms.html).

While that's a good point, the other side of that is, to my understanding, the present inability of wind, solar, and hydroelectric power to handle the needs of the entire United States, much less the entire world. The technologies should be further developed, and there may come a day when it is feasible to use them to produce the majority of power, but right now they're not workable on the necessary scale while coal and nuclear are.

Wind power is only barely costeffective, but getting better slowly. Wave/tide power has improved (One of the most promising new types of wave-energy collectors was developed by a Finnish team! And we don't even get proper waves/tides in Finland.) but the main problem is that only certain places have tides powerful enough for the powerplants. Solar power also gives the best results near equator but is not so good closer to north and south pole.

Untill we make improvements in the green energy nuclear power is a good short term solution. (Altough the waste certainly is a long term commitment.)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: N. De Plume on April 22, 2012, 03:26:58 pm
Ultimately, no one energy source is going to work on its own. We need to work on a muti-pronged solution. Use what is best for a given location, supplemented with a few second-best choices to help mitigate an shortcomings of the primary tactic.

And I think we should emphasize that even for a single area, one can have multiple sources. For instance, a local hospital located near the county landfill in my former hometown recently set up a deal to use some of the gas produced by the bacteria in the landfill as a power source. This gas would normally have just been burned off to no effect. Now, this energy source isn’t even enough to power the hospital on its own. However, it does reduce the hospital’s reliance on traditional fossil fuel power provided by the city. Basically, if you can scale this sort of thing up, even with multiple green energy sources, you could probably get a pretty good deal going.


Untill we make improvements in the green energy nuclear power is a good short term solution. (Altough the waste certainly is a long term commitment.)

I would hesitate to think of anything with any long-term consequence as “short-term.” Even if the initial stage was intended as a stopgap. Your solution’s term is however long it takes you to stop dealing with it.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cataclysm on April 22, 2012, 03:37:30 pm
Four words: Liquid Fluoride Thorium Reactors
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: N. De Plume on April 22, 2012, 03:43:12 pm
301 years is still a fucking long time. But it is also way, way, way shorter than the thousands upon thousands of the alternatives. And short enough that the “Warning Sign” problem shouldn’t be much of an issue, barring some kind of apocalyptic catastrophe. I think I could get behind that.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lt. Fred on April 22, 2012, 04:53:09 pm
Untill we make improvements in the green energy nuclear power is a good short term solution. (Altough the waste certainly is a long term commitment.)

Consider; with almost no government subsidies, with major white-anting from the dirty energy industry backed, in many places, by the state, and with little private investment- solar energy has halved in price every year for the last ten. It is already cheaper, on aggregate, than coal fired-power (and probably nuclear as well).

The answer is a properly funded solar-energy development program, and victory over the dirty energy/conservative movement. Within a decade, everything will be powered by solar energy- the choice is whether the US and Australia produces that, or whether Germany and South Korea will. It's looking like, because the German/Korean political system is less corrupt and more responsive, the US will voluntarily surrender a major competitive advantage.

Nuclear energy is a joke. The massive handouts to the industry, including those in the form of R and D, are wasted, because the industry won't exist out of submarines in two decades. The US is paying to make better horses-and-carts in 1910, because the cart industry owns a bunch of congressmen.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Kit Walker on April 22, 2012, 05:08:25 pm
It was my understanding that even as photovoltaic cells are getting better, it still requires a shit ton of them to generate sufficient power for current needs. Which creates a whole lot of extra concerns regarding maintenance, cleaning, space & other placement concerns, etc.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: ironbite on April 22, 2012, 05:33:28 pm
guys guys guys...I can solve our energy problem in one fell swoop.

Ironbite-Fire....sweet sweet fire that cleanses the earth clean
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on April 22, 2012, 07:03:03 pm
guys guys guys...I can solve our energy problem in one fell swoop.

Ironbite-Fire....sweet sweet fire that cleanses the earth clean

Technically... that DOES solve every problem ever....
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: TenfoldMaquette on April 22, 2012, 07:04:33 pm
guys guys guys...I can solve our energy problem in one fell swoop.

Ironbite-Fire....sweet sweet fire that cleanses the earth clean

Technically... that DOES solve every problem ever....

Gotta love the simple solutions. :)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Osama bin Bambi on April 22, 2012, 07:11:06 pm
It was my understanding that even as photovoltaic cells are getting better, it still requires a shit ton of them to generate sufficient power for current needs. Which creates a whole lot of extra concerns regarding maintenance, cleaning, space & other placement concerns, etc.

Yeah, my family actually was looking into getting solar cells for our house once... and then we learned it was really expensive to buy and set up. Solar energy is the best possible route, but first it has to be made cheaper, more plentiful, more efficient, and easier to make/use so that average people can install it themselves and actually get their money's worth. At the point when solar energy becomes a bargain compared to "dirty" energy (that actually sounds sexy even though it's not), they'll jump on the bandwagon real fast. Forcing them to use solar power would probably just leave a bad taste in everyone's mouth.

And we do need nuclear plants for medical isotopes and bombs stuff, so they're not all bad. Just sayin'.

In eastern WA there are a lot of wind turbines that generate energy. I don't know how efficient they are, but god damn are they impressive. And huge.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on April 22, 2012, 07:30:32 pm
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: TheL on April 22, 2012, 07:56:49 pm
The thing that gets me about nuclear is that the waste products it does produce can last too damn long. I just don’t feel it is responsible to push of responsibility for dealing with something onto generations so far removed that we aren’t even sure how to best communicate the importance of that responsibility (http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/green_room/2009/11/atomic_priesthoods_thorn_landscapes_and_munchian_pictograms.html).

While that's a good point, the other side of that is, to my understanding, the present inability of wind, solar, and hydroelectric power to handle the needs of the entire United States, much less the entire world. The technologies should be further developed, and there may come a day when it is feasible to use them to produce the majority of power, but right now they're not workable on the necessary scale while coal and nuclear are.

Yeah, but that doesn't mean we can't replace some of the old power plants with sustainable energy sources, or that it's not worthwhile to cut down on coal use now.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: MadCatTLX on April 22, 2012, 08:58:47 pm

Quote
All things considered I support nuclear, water, wind and solar power but only if the safety precautions (and a safe location) are well thought out.

The thing that gets me about nuclear is that the waste products it does produce can last too damn long. I just don’t feel it is responsible to push of responsibility for dealing with something onto generations so far removed that we aren’t even sure how to best communicate the importance of that responsibility (http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/green_room/2009/11/atomic_priesthoods_thorn_landscapes_and_munchian_pictograms.html).

I think the current solution is to use containers that have to be replaced every decade or so. that way people won't forget because there will always be containers reaching their "expiration date" and needing to be replaced. A good thing that comes from it is this creates jobs, though incredibly hazardous ones.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: N. De Plume on April 22, 2012, 09:09:35 pm

Quote
All things considered I support nuclear, water, wind and solar power but only if the safety precautions (and a safe location) are well thought out.

The thing that gets me about nuclear is that the waste products it does produce can last too damn long. I just don’t feel it is responsible to push of responsibility for dealing with something onto generations so far removed that we aren’t even sure how to best communicate the importance of that responsibility (http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/green_room/2009/11/atomic_priesthoods_thorn_landscapes_and_munchian_pictograms.html).

I think the current solution is to use containers that have to be replaced every decade or so. that way people won't forget because there will always be containers reaching their "expiration date" and needing to be replaced. A good thing that comes from it is this creates jobs, though incredibly hazardous ones.

Definitely need some sort of continuous intervention in order to encourage preservation of the message in whatever language happens to be spoken at the time. But I wouldn’t count on that chain to never be broken by some force or another.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: gyeonghwa on April 23, 2012, 12:20:26 am

Quote
All things considered I support nuclear, water, wind and solar power but only if the safety precautions (and a safe location) are well thought out.

The thing that gets me about nuclear is that the waste products it does produce can last too damn long. I just don’t feel it is responsible to push of responsibility for dealing with something onto generations so far removed that we aren’t even sure how to best communicate the importance of that responsibility (http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/green_room/2009/11/atomic_priesthoods_thorn_landscapes_and_munchian_pictograms.html).

I think the current solution is to use containers that have to be replaced every decade or so. that way people won't forget because there will always be containers reaching their "expiration date" and needing to be replaced. A good thing that comes from it is this creates jobs, though incredibly hazardous ones.


One plausible solution that I've heard is to dump the nuclear waste in the Mariana Trench, where the subduction zone would push the waste and a recycle it. Not sure how well that would work though.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: SpaceProg on April 23, 2012, 12:31:13 am
Be our luck, we'd piss off an alien race when they get our offal dumped on their deep sea civilization.  Yes I've just watched Abyss.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Meshakhad on April 23, 2012, 01:41:32 am
I know where we can dump our nuclear waste: Las Vegas.

Serves the bloody Nevadans right.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cataclysm on April 23, 2012, 01:51:06 am
What about the heritage foundation?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LcOGSQinQQ0

Because, yay irony.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: ironbite on April 23, 2012, 08:38:21 am
I know where we can dump our nuclear waste: Las Vegas.

Serves the bloody Nevadans right.

and piss off Mr. House and his army of Securitrons?

Ironbite-no thank you.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: gyeonghwa on April 23, 2012, 12:11:10 pm
(http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/534019_363628627006684_268707249832156_922423_1208392115_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on April 23, 2012, 01:39:03 pm
Holy CRAP that is an unflattering picture of him.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: ironbite on April 23, 2012, 02:06:07 pm
To be fair it's what he looks like.

As for that...yep.  Just exactly what I expected from this country of morons.  We might vote liberal but really we just want to be racist idiots.

Ironbite-oh and the Chicks are girls so they're fair game and they took on Toby Keith and you do not say Fuck You to Big Dog Daddy...unless you're me.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on April 23, 2012, 06:12:15 pm
Every picture of Ted Nugent is unflattering...
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: syaoranvee on April 23, 2012, 06:21:42 pm
I always said the best way to get rid of nuclear waste is to rocket it into the sun.  Of course, the safety of the rocket lifting off correctly would be going into paranoia territory.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cataclysm on April 23, 2012, 11:28:57 pm
(http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/534019_363628627006684_268707249832156_922423_1208392115_n.jpg)

If Obama is going to indefinitely detain Nuget, he's got my vote!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on April 23, 2012, 11:40:49 pm
(http://media.timesfreepress.com/img/photos/2012/04/20/120422_Earth_Day_Cake_t618.jpg?ba5b5b122dd3d37cc13d83e92a6a0ec0d5bfa32a)

(http://www.slowpokecomics.com/strips/takeandgive.png)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lt. Fred on April 24, 2012, 07:47:48 am
I always said they should torture the people who support torture until they stop, and indefinitely imprison the people who support Guantanamo until they stop. Somewhat flippantly.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on April 24, 2012, 05:31:51 pm
(http://wonkette.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/occupyunicorns.jpg)

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/538640_337009329694779_119640064765041_936271_467811438_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Smurfette Principle on April 24, 2012, 08:57:34 pm
(http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m2yxkidxbB1r24d9go1_1280.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on April 24, 2012, 09:16:22 pm
(http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m2yxkidxbB1r24d9go1_1280.jpg)
I actually reblogged this one on tumblr  I saw some leaders compare being made to provide contreception to the oppression in China and Egypt
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: VirtualStranger on April 24, 2012, 09:27:20 pm
Someone tell me. Is this thread for good political cartoons? Or just ones that you agree with?

Because when judged as cartoons, a lot of these are actually really shitty.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: TheL on April 24, 2012, 10:21:56 pm
Someone tell me. Is this thread for good political cartoons? Or just ones that you agree with?

Because when judged as cartoons, a lot of these are actually really shitty.

This.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Saturn500 on April 24, 2012, 10:43:11 pm
(http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m2yxkidxbB1r24d9go1_1280.jpg)

As much as I agree with the message, I would have put it in the "worst" section because two of the panels are walls of text.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: MadCatTLX on April 24, 2012, 10:49:01 pm
(http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m2yxkidxbB1r24d9go1_1280.jpg)

As much as I agree with the message, I would have put it in the "worst" section because two of the panels are walls of text.

And the rest appears to be done in MS Paint. Paint is fine for RAGE comics and such, but not really good for this.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on April 24, 2012, 10:56:52 pm
(http://www.classwarfareexists.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/Terrorists-have-won.png)

(http://media.caglecartoons.com/media/cartoons/82/2012/01/26/105229_600.jpg)

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/582548_437196326307020_224319224261399_1679247_1741954122_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on April 25, 2012, 01:54:28 am
Someone tell me. Is this thread for good political cartoons? Or just ones that you agree with?

Because when judged as cartoons, a lot of these are actually really shitty.

I think it's for cartoons that make a good point.

Cartoons that make a bad point, or make it poorly, go into the other thread.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Smurfette Principle on April 25, 2012, 08:22:35 am
Someone tell me. Is this thread for good political cartoons? Or just ones that you agree with?

Because when judged as cartoons, a lot of these are actually really shitty.

I think it's for cartoons that make a good point.

Cartoons that make a bad point, or make it poorly, go into the other thread.

This.  If it were solely on artistic merit, we would have Antisemitic Photoshop Guy in here.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on April 25, 2012, 10:49:51 am
(http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2012/04/22/opinion/22strip-web/22strip-web-jumbo.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Kit Walker on April 25, 2012, 11:27:45 am
Something about performing a Fastball Special using Ed Begley, Jr. in place of Wolverine just tickles me.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on April 25, 2012, 07:19:58 pm
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/401673_412564165421234_114517875225866_1529249_1781073140_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: OscarApollo on April 25, 2012, 10:37:14 pm
(http://i50.tinypic.com/351z7sg.png)

Slight problem in that it depicts LGB discrimination as being over, but the fact that T rights aren't given as much attention as the other letters is so fucking true it's unbelievable.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Saturn500 on April 26, 2012, 02:12:48 pm
This one isn't really a political cartoon but... it's relevant, sorta...

http://theoatmeal.com/comics/atheism
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on April 26, 2012, 04:48:49 pm
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/528822_331141876951631_150750831657404_817816_736358289_n.jpg)

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/432350_396272797054169_169093223105462_1743424_1761436365_n.jpg)

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/35531_441120719236043_169093223105462_1876027_1101164970_n.jpg)

(http://www.classwarfareexists.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/Secret-Service.jpg)

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/531350_10150683597841167_26595441166_9731957_1176640924_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on April 26, 2012, 05:39:31 pm
Quote
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/531350_10150683597841167_26595441166_9731957_1176640924_n.jpg)

Sizzle sizzle.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Her3tiK on April 26, 2012, 05:58:38 pm
Quote
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/531350_10150683597841167_26595441166_9731957_1176640924_n.jpg)

Sizzle sizzle.
Is this based on something Hannity actually said or is it just making fun of his position on such things?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on April 26, 2012, 06:57:06 pm
It's based on what Hannity said the other day on his radio show
http://www.newshounds.us/sean_hannity_let_them_eat_rice_and_beans_04242012 (http://www.newshounds.us/sean_hannity_let_them_eat_rice_and_beans_04242012)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: N. De Plume on April 26, 2012, 08:09:49 pm
If he thinks nothing but rice and beans is okay, he should try it. Give us a demonstration, you know? I say he has to go three months, minimum.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Meshakhad on April 26, 2012, 08:12:59 pm
I would not want to be working for Fox during this period.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on April 26, 2012, 08:38:23 pm
sizzle sizzle.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: gyeonghwa on April 26, 2012, 11:36:48 pm
Oh it's possible to survive for a short while off rice. You won't live well, and it will probably significantly shorten your life and you'll have to kill wild animals for their meat because you can survive off rice it isn't enough to do menial labor for long periods of time. But my parents did it! Before they decided to say fuck you to the Khmer Rouge, and run away, anyways.

...
...
...

/me kicks Hannity in the groins for being a pissant.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: largeham on April 27, 2012, 02:26:46 am
sizzle sizzle.
I'm thinking more profanities shouted in French, sharpening of a blade and the nice sound of metal slicing through neck.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Rabbit of Caerbannog on April 27, 2012, 02:31:31 am
If he thinks nothing but rice and beans is okay, he should try it. Give us a demonstration, you know? I say he has to go three months, minimum.
Coward wouldn't even be waterboarded for charity. Granted, I wouldn't want to be waterboarded under ANY circumstances, but I'm not the one saying it isn't torture.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on April 27, 2012, 03:39:52 am
sizzle sizzle.

Sorry, I still can't get past that part of the cartoon.

sizzle sizzle.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: N. De Plume on April 27, 2012, 06:49:57 am
Sorry, I still can't get past that part of the cartoon.

So we’ve noticed. :P
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on April 27, 2012, 09:30:43 am
Quote
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/531350_10150683597841167_26595441166_9731957_1176640924_n.jpg)

Sizzle sizzle.

Sssssizzzle sssssizzzzzle.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: QueenofHearts on April 27, 2012, 09:54:51 am
Oh it's possible to survive for a short while off rice. You won't live well, and it will probably significantly shorten your life and you'll have to kill wild animals for their meat because you can survive off rice it isn't enough to do menial labor for long periods of time. But my parents did it! Before they decided to say fuck you to the Khmer Rouge, and run away, anyways.

I think it says something even more disturbing than the prima facie fact that one can't live off rice and beans, and that is that Hannity sees such a basic (undernourishing) diet as perfectly acceptable for poor families and children. All the while, Hannity himself enjoys, on a regular basis, meals many of us can't imagine. At least Maria Antoinette was nice enough to offer the peasants cake*

*I've heard she never said this, but the popular myth that the French Revolutions began over the upper class' ignorance to the plight of the poor serves the purpose that reality is worse than fiction.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on April 27, 2012, 12:00:43 pm
(http://images2.dailykos.com/i/user/310373/868small.png)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Dr. Killjoy on April 27, 2012, 03:46:08 pm
I would not want to be working for Fox during this period.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: chad sexington on April 27, 2012, 09:07:53 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/UpWct.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Kristine on April 28, 2012, 02:09:34 pm
(http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ltaetcvRt61qz7b4yo1_500.png)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Saturn500 on April 28, 2012, 02:35:52 pm
I think that might be a repeat.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on April 28, 2012, 06:04:32 pm
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m2k8xdCfHj1qiw6cuo1_500.jpg)
(http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m35rmxdJd21qzium9o1_1280.jpg)
(http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m35gabgi5G1qbxkjao1_500.jpg)
(http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m34auxwtgU1r6y50vo1_500.jpg)
(http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m32ce0bhmi1r6y50vo1_500.jpg)

Finally found a new source of 'toons. Go me.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Saturn500 on April 28, 2012, 06:21:42 pm
All of those make HAZE and it's "Drugs Are Bad! War Is Hell!" message seem subtle by comparison.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: largeham on April 28, 2012, 08:24:52 pm
I'm sorry to say that doesn't really look like David Cameron.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: StallChaser on April 29, 2012, 05:14:35 am
Agreed.  He looks more like the bastard child of Majin Buu and a condom.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cataclysm on April 29, 2012, 02:49:04 pm
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/533968_423958540949374_216446038367293_1632771_1483537843_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RavynousHunter on April 29, 2012, 10:42:26 pm
Wow, if that's true...Barry gets brownie points for that.  Going from "mountain of debt" to fucking PRESIDENT is a pretty big accomplishment...
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: largeham on April 30, 2012, 02:22:54 am
Agreed.  He looks more like the bastard child of Majin Buu and a condom.
I disagree, it's not a Steve Bell cartoon.
On that note:
(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/maps_and_graphs/2012/4/23/1335221314856/24.04.2012-Steve-Bell-on--005.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on April 30, 2012, 06:23:28 am
Wow, if that's true...Barry gets brownie points for that.  Going from "mountain of debt" to fucking PRESIDENT is a pretty big accomplishment...

Selling that book of his had to have helped Obama.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RavynousHunter on April 30, 2012, 12:30:05 pm
Pfft, nobody reads books anymore.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: ironbite on April 30, 2012, 01:50:44 pm
Wow, if that's true...Barry gets brownie points for that.  Going from "mountain of debt" to fucking PRESIDENT is a pretty big accomplishment...

Also being able to start a family, run for senate in that time period as well.

Ironbite-the former is most impressive btw.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cataclysm on April 30, 2012, 04:11:13 pm
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/522521_400224229999720_109200595768753_1266298_542446446_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Thejebusfire on April 30, 2012, 06:00:17 pm
(http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m1o1z7KC0v1qawlwvo1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cataclysm on April 30, 2012, 08:11:41 pm
And social security.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RavynousHunter on April 30, 2012, 10:17:07 pm
(http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m1o1z7KC0v1qawlwvo1_500.jpg)

An abominable waste of trees and ink?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on April 30, 2012, 10:46:12 pm
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/305654_2967156430008_1594606937_31999563_81945843_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on May 01, 2012, 09:10:44 pm
(http://media.timesfreepress.com/img/photos/2012/04/30/120501_The_Tin_Man_t618.jpg?ba5b5b122dd3d37cc13d83e92a6a0ec0d5bfa32a)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Kristine on May 01, 2012, 09:41:03 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/6hIH0.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on May 01, 2012, 10:09:14 pm
I wonder if they intended for both to seem equally stupid.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on May 01, 2012, 10:46:04 pm
I dunno if this counts but:

(http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3djcbKwG31r2rr7k.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on May 01, 2012, 11:26:39 pm
I dunno if this counts but:

(http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3djcbKwG31r2rr7k.jpg)
I've not seen that movie and while my mom liked it I do know a similar movie Avatar the trope is mighty whitey and yes it's annoying.  Reason #1873 To Kill a Mockingbird was great was that Atticus didn't solve the racism
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Kristine on May 02, 2012, 12:09:17 am
(http://i.imgur.com/VQbjV.jpg)
as one of the 24% I am disappointed...
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on May 02, 2012, 12:27:06 am
(http://i.imgur.com/VQbjV.jpg)
as one of the 24% I am disappointed...

In the defense of the 39% they might want to vote but couldn't get an ID
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lt. Fred on May 02, 2012, 03:14:19 am
The Help

Also, black people speak funny and love fried chicken. I mean, really.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Distind on May 03, 2012, 06:36:40 am
(http://i.imgur.com/VQbjV.jpg)
as one of the 24% I am disappointed...
They say thes numbers like they're all that much below normal. If I remember correctly it's not too much less than any other population segment barring old people.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: e13 on May 03, 2012, 09:59:57 am
Doesn't change the facts, though. People complain that nothing changes. Well, as long as the same minority segment continue to control the polls, nothing will change.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: armandtanzarian on May 03, 2012, 10:08:07 am
(http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3f6opR04M1qgu9k8o1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Kit Walker on May 03, 2012, 10:17:27 am
They say thes numbers like they're all that much below normal. If I remember correctly it's not too much less than any other population segment barring old people.

You're absolutely right. However, the point of the cartoon is to say "if you don't like the way politics are going, then get off your ass and vote".
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: TheL on May 03, 2012, 06:22:52 pm
I've not seen that movie and while my mom liked it I do know a similar movie Avatar the trope is mighty whitey and yes it's annoying.  Reason #1873 To Kill a Mockingbird was great was that Atticus didn't solve the racism

Even in The Help, Skeeter didn't solve the problem--people were still using the services of underpaid black maids at the end.  All she did was get people to think, and even at that, it was obvious she wouldn't have even been able to do that without the aid of the maids who wrote chapters for her book.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on May 03, 2012, 09:17:18 pm
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3gowi2TwU1qjsewxo1_400.jpg)

Can't decide if this goes here. What do you think?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on May 03, 2012, 09:27:53 pm
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3gowi2TwU1qjsewxo1_400.jpg)

Can't decide if this goes here. What do you think?
I think it counts
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on May 05, 2012, 07:26:33 am
(http://www.filibustercartoons.com/comics/20110830.gif)



(http://media.riemurasia.net/albumit/mmedia/hv/xc0/7moc/48206/969312213.jpg)
Not political, but still a good one.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: SpaceProg on May 05, 2012, 11:41:41 am
^ I really like that last one. *Steals*
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on May 05, 2012, 12:00:08 pm
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/532444_395715540453704_168013899890537_1422768_1978574172_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Saturn500 on May 05, 2012, 01:23:33 pm
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/532444_395715540453704_168013899890537_1422768_1978574172_n.jpg)

Image isn't showing up.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on May 05, 2012, 02:20:15 pm
(http://www.filibustercartoons.com/comics/20110830.gif)



(http://media.riemurasia.net/albumit/mmedia/hv/xc0/7moc/48206/969312213.jpg)
Not political, but still a good one.
The first one seems a little i dunno i guess Savage was low but Santorum didnt do anything to redeem himself.  Maybe same image but doing it to a bi person and transexual person
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Sixth Monarchist on May 05, 2012, 03:53:53 pm
(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2012/5/4/1336169774710/Martin-Rowson-05.05.2012-002.jpg)

Three more years of Armacleggon, anyone?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Osama bin Bambi on May 05, 2012, 03:57:44 pm
(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2012/5/4/1336169774710/Martin-Rowson-05.05.2012-002.jpg)

Three more years of Armacleggon, anyone?

What is this I don't even

No seriously, I've seen several comics in a similar style on this thread before... and I have no idea what they're supposed to be about or what is going on there.

Either way, I want two of whatever the artist is on.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Meshakhad on May 05, 2012, 04:12:29 pm
(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2012/5/4/1336169774710/Martin-Rowson-05.05.2012-002.jpg)

Three more years of Armacleggon, anyone?

What is this I don't even

No seriously, I've seen several comics in a similar style on this thread before... and I have no idea what they're supposed to be about or what is going on there.

Either way, I want two of whatever the artist is on.

It might be tea. He is British.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Thejebusfire on May 05, 2012, 04:41:09 pm
What they hell do the English put in there tea?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Osama bin Bambi on May 05, 2012, 04:43:22 pm
What they hell do the English put in there tea?

The exact formula is a state secret, known only by the Royal Family.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: starseeker on May 05, 2012, 04:52:58 pm
The comic's about Boris Johnston being voted Mayor of London technically belonging to the Tory party, making gains whilst the main party is trying to rein him and his financers in towards the main party. I think.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Damen on May 05, 2012, 05:17:48 pm
The comic's about Boris Johnston being voted Mayor of London technically belonging to the Tory party, making gains whilst the main party is trying to rein him and his financers in towards the main party. I think.

I'm mildly disturbed that you know that.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on May 05, 2012, 05:24:48 pm
The comic's about Boris Johnston being voted Mayor of London technically belonging to the Tory party, making gains whilst the main party is trying to rein him and his financers in towards the main party. I think.

(http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ljgl9g8nwB1qdum5i.gif)

That's what I thought too. /JustKidding

Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: SpaceProg on May 05, 2012, 05:49:14 pm
Where the heck do you get all these Tennant gifs?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Sixth Monarchist on May 05, 2012, 06:06:42 pm
What is this I don't even

No seriously, I've seen several comics in a similar style on this thread before... and I have no idea what they're supposed to be about or what is going on there.

Either way, I want two of whatever the artist is on.

There's something of an irony in the way that, despite the biggest criticism on this (and the Worst Cartoons) thread being cartoonists over-labelling things, the biggest source of bemusement turns out to be the cartoons that resolutely label absolutely nothing.

The cartoonist in this case is Martin Rowson, who along with Steve Bell is one of the more high-profile cartoonists for The Guardian. Their work makes perfect sense in the context of British politics, but like I said, nothing is labelled and nothing is explained. They also tend to be the most left-wing pieces in the Guardian itself on any given day, for some reason.

Anyway, the context here is that Boris Johnson was pretty much the only Conservative of note to come out of the local elections looking good (although even his win was narrower than expected). Labour gained some 820 seats across UK councils, the Conservatives lost 400, and the Liberal Democrats lost 330, particularly disastrous as they didn't have as many incumbents up for election in the first place.

The opinions involved are most likely:

1. That (right to left) David Cameron (PM, Con), George Osborne (Chancellor of the Exchequer, Con) and Danny Alexander (Chief Secretary to the Treasurer, LD) are desperately grasping on Boris Johnson's success, devoid as they are of anything else,
2. That the rich (the fat cats in the balloon) will benefit from Johnson's election,
3. Boris only won because of the Evening Standard's reporting, and his campaign was a load of hot air,
4. "The Lib Dems are fucked! Hahahahahaha!"
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: starseeker on May 05, 2012, 08:25:39 pm
The comic's about Boris Johnston being voted Mayor of London technically belonging to the Tory party, making gains whilst the main party is trying to rein him and his financers in towards the main party. I think.

I'm mildly disturbed that you know that.

I still have no idea what's with the vulture on the easel. The rest is only due to being a Londoner who reads the papers.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on May 05, 2012, 10:48:51 pm
Where the heck do you get all these Tennant gifs?

:D Tumblr!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: SpaceProg on May 06, 2012, 12:29:50 am
Ahh.  I've never really looked at Tumblr before.  Thanks for telling me. :)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Kristine on May 06, 2012, 01:03:47 am

(http://timeopinions.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/may032012chancolor.jpg?w=576)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on May 06, 2012, 04:24:16 am

(http://timeopinions.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/may032012chancolor.jpg?w=576)

TT_TT
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on May 06, 2012, 09:21:37 pm
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/542056_445700055443753_236565153023912_1776363_1302604428_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: MadCatTLX on May 06, 2012, 09:28:52 pm

(http://timeopinions.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/may032012chancolor.jpg?w=576)

Only because debt collectors haven't found heaven's phone number.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Captain Jack Harkness on May 06, 2012, 10:23:24 pm

(http://timeopinions.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/may032012chancolor.jpg?w=576)

TT_TT

For the record, your family is still on the hook.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: SpaceProg on May 06, 2012, 10:24:40 pm
(333)333-3333

They're big on threes there.

Either it's because of the whole Trinity deal, or they're big time Dale Earnhardt Sr. fans.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on May 06, 2012, 11:44:42 pm
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/385700_309450305796912_271446192930657_732307_1406839933_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on May 07, 2012, 05:43:19 pm
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/541151_10150795406806275_177486166274_9952100_9183029_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: largeham on May 07, 2012, 08:30:46 pm
My fundie book is the correct one!

(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/About/General/2012/5/8/1336432048378/Steve-Bell-cartoon--004.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: e13 on May 07, 2012, 11:08:55 pm
My fundie book is the correct one!

(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/About/General/2012/5/8/1336432048378/Steve-Bell-cartoon--004.jpg)
...
...
... :o

This is what I get for not listening to the BBC in months.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Osama bin Bambi on May 07, 2012, 11:21:56 pm
My fundie book is the correct one!

(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/About/General/2012/5/8/1336432048378/Steve-Bell-cartoon--004.jpg)
...
...
... :o

This is what I get for not listening to the BBC in months.

Okayyyyyyyyy.... O_o

Okay UK, I think you've had enough tea, don't get too into Rule 34 now...
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on May 07, 2012, 11:32:38 pm
Gosh, I'm sure I'd get these UK 'toons if I had a nice shot of acid every time I tried to look at one. But as it is...
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on May 07, 2012, 11:55:47 pm
(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/About/General/2012/5/8/1336432048378/Steve-Bell-cartoon--004.jpg)

Oh dear...I really wish I could unsee this...Merkel & dominatrix outfits don't go well together...
And there only one explanation for this cartoon...a shit load of acid in Steve Bell's tea
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: largeham on May 08, 2012, 02:37:04 am
It's not that bad (though yes, a dominatrix Merkel in a pickelhaube is kinda creepy), it's just (IMO) an overly-optimistic cartoon about Hollande and his government.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: SpaceProg on May 08, 2012, 02:40:28 am
I guess... you really had to be there.

/me is a yank.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: e13 on May 08, 2012, 10:17:52 am
I guess... you really had to be there.

/me is a yank.
I prefer the term 'MERICAN!

(http://image.shutterstock.com/display_pic_with_logo/8939/8939,1191395190,1/stock-photo-unhealthy-fat-man-sitting-on-couch-drinking-beer-and-eating-pizza-5817151.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on May 08, 2012, 11:49:57 am
It's not that bad (though yes, a dominatrix Merkel in a pickelhaube is kinda creepy), it's just (IMO) an overly-optimistic cartoon about Hollande and his government.

Dominatrix Merkel is kinda creepy?? I find dominatrix Merkel as one the most disturbing things ever, more disturbing than that WWII era cartoon with Stalin & Hitler at the alter, and Stalin is the one wearing the dress...though I have to say I laughed at Sarkozy peeking out of the boot.

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/535356_423636964313954_114517875225866_1556381_231671858_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on May 08, 2012, 06:10:51 pm
I think the best thing about that picture is that the Lobbyist entrance is the ONLY entrance that actually leads to the goal.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Damen on May 08, 2012, 07:15:30 pm
(http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m1v4k4eSls1qlh1nvo1_1280.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: MadCatTLX on May 08, 2012, 08:31:30 pm
Edit: I accidentally posted the picture in the wrong Political cartoons thread. It's now been moved here (http://forums.fstdt.net/politics-and-government/wors-political-cartoons/msg55565/#msg55565).
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: gyeonghwa on May 08, 2012, 08:54:57 pm
Wait, I don't understand the politics in that. Unless it's a racist caricature, in which case I think it belongs in the worse political cartoon thread.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: MadCatTLX on May 08, 2012, 09:44:24 pm
Wait, I don't understand the politics in that. Unless it's a racist caricature, in which case I think it belongs in the worse political cartoon thread.

Doh! Yeah I got the threads confused :-[. I'll be moving it now. I think it's supposed to be a racist caricature.

New home for the previous post: http://forums.fstdt.net/politics-and-government/wors-political-cartoons/msg55565/#msg55565 (http://forums.fstdt.net/politics-and-government/wors-political-cartoons/msg55565/#msg55565)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Thejebusfire on May 08, 2012, 10:33:13 pm
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3qd68RyDP1r81imfo1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Kristine on May 08, 2012, 11:24:21 pm
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3qd68RyDP1r81imfo1_500.jpg)
I give a big "Fuck Yeah" to this.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: SpaceProg on May 08, 2012, 11:41:57 pm
(http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m1v4k4eSls1qlh1nvo1_1280.jpg)
A picture says a thousand words.  Mostly WWJD?  Certainly not say that.  Therein lies the point.  Awesome statement.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on May 09, 2012, 03:10:31 pm
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3rnz0niLI1qbxkjao1_500.jpg)

Well that was quick.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: e13 on May 10, 2012, 12:31:33 am
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3rnz0niLI1qbxkjao1_500.jpg)

Well that was quick.
It's North Carolina. Hate to be stereotypical, but that was probably drawn up and put on waiting a good week in advance of the vote. The American South isn't exactly known for its love and tolerance of anything perceived outside the "norm".
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: SpaceProg on May 10, 2012, 01:52:18 am
I'm outside the norm.  I'm not dead.  Yet.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on May 10, 2012, 08:37:32 am
I'm outside the norm.  I'm not dead.  Yet.

Don't bother, mate. Our forefathers made the bed and we're lyin' in it.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Servo on May 10, 2012, 10:41:51 am
(http://images1.dailykos.com/i/user/121704/voterID550.png)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: N. De Plume on May 10, 2012, 06:03:49 pm
Wait, now there are even laws to prevent you from even finding out what fucking district you’re in?!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Eniliad on May 10, 2012, 06:44:25 pm
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3qd68RyDP1r81imfo1_500.jpg)

"the the" O.o
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Thejebusfire on May 10, 2012, 07:21:47 pm
I never noticed that.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: ironbite on May 10, 2012, 07:26:46 pm
You usually don't.

Ironbite-very common mistake.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on May 10, 2012, 07:40:25 pm
Brain at work.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Meshakhad on May 10, 2012, 08:53:52 pm
Wait, now there are even laws to prevent you from even finding out what fucking district you’re in?!

Time to bust out the old hammergun...
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Osama bin Bambi on May 10, 2012, 10:19:01 pm
Wait, now there are even laws to prevent you from even finding out what fucking district you’re in?!

(http://www.threadbombing.com/data/media/18/wtfcat.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: e13 on May 10, 2012, 11:44:12 pm
If they're allowed to do that, that sucks. My current polling place has a map up showing the surrounding 4 districts and they informed one old lady where to go. Maybe it's just that they don't have to.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cataclysm on May 11, 2012, 12:23:07 am
Well the authorities said that they didn't need to provide her the information if she asked them to, not that she wasn't allowed to find the information herself.

Hopefully things like these will make it easier, although I think that you should receive the information you want.

http://votesmart.org/
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on May 11, 2012, 12:31:16 am
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/318245_422871691057148_114517875225866_1553717_1493402032_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: N. De Plume on May 11, 2012, 06:53:04 am
Well the authorities said that they didn't need to provide her the information if she asked them to, not that she wasn't allowed to find the information herself.

Which, if the folks at the poll won’t tell you, would require going back home and looking it up at the very least. If you don’t have online access or your municipality’s online resources suck, then you probably have to go to city hall to find out. If the polling place is going to exercise this “right” to not tell you, they probably won’t have easy to read maps available either.

The maps are another thing. Not everyone can read a map. Maybe they just don’t know how. Maybe they have some sort of cognitive or learning disability that prevents them from doing so. Maybe the person is blind. But forcing someone to use a map when you could easily tell that person is a good way to disenfranchise that person.

Why wouldn’t you want the people in charge of managing the elections to help people actually vote?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Jodie on May 11, 2012, 07:07:34 am
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/318245_422871691057148_114517875225866_1553717_1493402032_n.jpg)

Are they drinking blood? o_O
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cataclysm on May 11, 2012, 10:50:41 pm
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/527668_4044892207200_1428729803_33595920_694266208_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on May 12, 2012, 10:45:38 pm
(http://media.timesfreepress.com/img/photos/2012/05/11/120512_The_Haircut_t618.jpg?ba5b5b122dd3d37cc13d83e92a6a0ec0d5bfa32a)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Thejebusfire on May 13, 2012, 12:20:20 am
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3vjar3mtU1r4ayoxo1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: N. De Plume on May 13, 2012, 12:24:29 am
Missing something about how it doesn’t need to be insured.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: SpaceProg on May 13, 2012, 12:46:42 am
Well, mental illnesses are some of the least understood types of illnesses.  People tend to get stupid around things they don't understand or fear.  Maybe someday we'll know more about the brain than the (relatively) teeny tiny amount we do currently.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on May 13, 2012, 01:57:04 am
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3vjar3mtU1r4ayoxo1_500.jpg)

Here, have the original, now with 100% less wrinkled paper :P

(http://www.deviantart.com/download/10204718/What_if___.jpg) (http://susiebeeca.deviantart.com/art/What-if-10204718)

Image is also a link
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: The Right Honourable Mlle Antéchrist on May 13, 2012, 03:56:04 am
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3vjar3mtU1r4ayoxo1_500.jpg)

*thunderous applause*
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Osama bin Bambi on May 13, 2012, 07:59:28 pm
(http://www.classwarfareexists.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/break_through_the_stereotypes_.jpg)
(http://www.classwarfareexists.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/Choosing-birth-control-for-men.jpeg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Osama bin Bambi on May 13, 2012, 08:01:58 pm
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/527668_4044892207200_1428729803_33595920_694266208_n.jpg)

Actually, there's a shitload of Israeli military officials who don't want to bomb Iran, and in Israeli politics their opinions are very influential. One of the former Mossad chiefs or something called bombing Iran "the stupidest thing I have ever heard." It's like just Netanyahu and a handful of other dudes who want to bomb it.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: ironbite on May 13, 2012, 09:02:24 pm
Israel doesn't want to bomb Iran.  After all, not much of a market for radioactive glass.  They want to take it over to increase the size of Israel.  Perfectly reasonable but stupid as we haven't had a country increase in area since WWI.

Ironbite-USSR doesn't count as that's something completely different.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on May 13, 2012, 10:46:43 pm
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/539874_331164416954607_143053525765698_774931_645459177_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Sixth Monarchist on May 14, 2012, 06:22:23 am
^ would be funny, but the Christian Right almost never achieve any self-awareness, let alone to that degree.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Kristine on May 16, 2012, 01:50:50 am
(http://i.imgur.com/wWyLP.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: SpaceProg on May 16, 2012, 06:41:28 am
Kristine, I don't know if it's just me, but the majority of the pictures you post I can't see for some reason.  *Shrugs* :(
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: chad sexington on May 16, 2012, 07:30:39 am
Works fine for me.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: SpaceProg on May 16, 2012, 11:40:52 am
It's so perturbing... I think of any reason why it wouldn't show.  Eh... if it's my problem only I'll just deal with it.  Maybe fiddle around with my settings some, but like I said, there's no reason why the pics shouldn't show up.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on May 16, 2012, 09:27:47 pm
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/561379_383274998384993_217866534925841_1135558_1419197367_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on May 16, 2012, 09:36:53 pm
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m43ikf4veL1qcqoybo1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on May 16, 2012, 09:54:47 pm
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/154561_432405096786143_224319224261399_1665253_687598824_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Kristine on May 16, 2012, 10:36:43 pm
It's so perturbing... I think of any reason why it wouldn't show.  Eh... if it's my problem only I'll just deal with it.  Maybe fiddle around with my settings some, but like I said, there's no reason why the pics shouldn't show up.

I don't know what I can do to help - they work fine for me...  :-[

"President Obama came out with approval of same-sex marriage. He said that over the years, he has been going through an evolution on the issue. That makes opponents on the far right doubly angry. They don't believe in gay marriage OR evolution." –Jimmy Kimmel

(http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/p480x480/563208_10150818619582346_60447222345_9661787_1630131498_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on May 16, 2012, 10:45:39 pm
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m43ikf4veL1qcqoybo1_500.jpg)
Rush I think likes 2 of those
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Her3tiK on May 16, 2012, 10:47:12 pm
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m43ikf4veL1qcqoybo1_500.jpg)
Rush I think likes 2 of those
Just two?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on May 16, 2012, 11:36:12 pm
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m43ikf4veL1qcqoybo1_500.jpg)
Rush I think likes 2 of those
Just two?
I'm being generous and saying he likes Child labor (gingritch support) and and hates womens rights
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cataclysm on May 16, 2012, 11:43:01 pm
Here's one more.

http://fstdt.net/QuoteComment.aspx?QID=84973
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on May 16, 2012, 11:47:24 pm
Here's one more.

http://fstdt.net/QuoteComment.aspx?QID=84973
Okay definately 2 not sure about 3 and 4
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: SpaceProg on May 17, 2012, 12:34:09 am
It's so perturbing... I think of any reason why it wouldn't show.  Eh... if it's my problem only I'll just deal with it.  Maybe fiddle around with my settings some, but like I said, there's no reason why the pics shouldn't show up.

I don't know what I can do to help - they work fine for me...  :-[

"President Obama came out with approval of same-sex marriage. He said that over the years, he has been going through an evolution on the issue. That makes opponents on the far right doubly angry. They don't believe in gay marriage OR evolution." –Jimmy Kimmel

(http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/p480x480/563208_10150818619582346_60447222345_9661787_1630131498_n.jpg)

Now THAT pic showed up.  Interesting.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on May 18, 2012, 06:08:52 am
Linkie cause big (http://i.imgur.com/kIeVx.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Kristine on May 18, 2012, 09:53:11 am
try this one...
(http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/545976_238602279573241_155775664522570_335093_333440411_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Igor on May 18, 2012, 10:46:03 am
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-c_9ocqd1VMI/T7ZQDuRHdWI/AAAAAAABXiE/E3VS3hRPhsQ/s1600/offering.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: largeham on May 18, 2012, 08:27:22 pm
And that is why I got rid of my Facebook account (or one of the reasons really).
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on May 20, 2012, 09:47:34 pm
(http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2012/05/18/sunday-review/0520strip-web/0520strip-web-jumbo.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: ThunderWulf on May 20, 2012, 09:51:37 pm
try this one...
(http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/545976_238602279573241_155775664522570_335093_333440411_n.jpg)

Saw this earlier today.  Awesome comic.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Thejebusfire on May 20, 2012, 11:12:46 pm
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m38q1iwyQi1rsf520o1_400.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: gyeonghwa on May 23, 2012, 03:18:45 pm
NSFW but makes the point:
(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Thejebusfire on May 23, 2012, 05:51:19 pm
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m4dqxoOuwt1qguulqo1_500.gif)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on May 23, 2012, 09:06:57 pm
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m4hgako3pI1qh3h8wo1_500.png)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Thejebusfire on May 24, 2012, 02:25:50 am
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3rpnaWuzv1r6a9a4o1_1280.gif)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: chad sexington on May 24, 2012, 05:50:41 am
(http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2012/05/18/sunday-review/0520strip-web/0520strip-web-jumbo.jpg)

Look at the face of CEO-GUY in the last panel.  He's got plans for that monkey...  :-X
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on May 24, 2012, 07:44:12 am
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3rpnaWuzv1r6a9a4o1_1280.gif)
I heard on TYT transgender unemployment is 90%
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on May 24, 2012, 07:51:28 am
It's been a while since I've used a public restroom that there were people in. But I still get a mini-panic attack when I think about such things. Especially since people are starting to see me as male but I'm still too much of a coward to use the male restrooms.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: SpaceProg on May 24, 2012, 08:03:49 am
^I feel ya, bro.  Boy do I feel you.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on May 24, 2012, 08:43:30 am
It's been a while since I've used a public restroom that there were people in. But I still get a mini-panic attack when I think about such things. Especially since people are starting to see me as male but I'm still too much of a coward to use the male restrooms.
hugs shep
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: The Right Honourable Mlle Antéchrist on May 24, 2012, 11:01:11 am
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m4hgako3pI1qh3h8wo1_500.png)

I know they're supposed to be Native, but my first thought upon seeing the picture was, "Trent Reznor and a braided, tanned Dick Cheney are living together in the dessert?"
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: QueenofHearts on May 24, 2012, 01:30:02 pm
It's been a while since I've used a public restroom that there were people in. But I still get a mini-panic attack when I think about such things. Especially since people are starting to see me as male but I'm still too much of a coward to use the male restrooms.

I know you know this, but I'll tell you what a transman friend said to me about a year ago

"You know, at first I was nervous to use the male's room. I knew if I used the female's room I would get weird looks or yelled at and felt if I used the male's room I would get beaten up, but that's not true. Everyone in the male's room won't even look at you, and would never speak to you because they're afraid of looking like a homo."

May be a bit backhanded, but you get the idea.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: SpaceProg on May 24, 2012, 05:37:49 pm
It does make sense in the insecure caveman guy kinda way. :-/ 
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: N. De Plume on May 24, 2012, 06:46:56 pm
It's been a while since I've used a public restroom that there were people in. But I still get a mini-panic attack when I think about such things. Especially since people are starting to see me as male but I'm still too much of a coward to use the male restrooms.

I know you know this, but I'll tell you what a transman friend said to me about a year ago

"You know, at first I was nervous to use the male's room. I knew if I used the female's room I would get weird looks or yelled at and felt if I used the male's room I would get beaten up, but that's not true. Everyone in the male's room won't even look at you, and would never speak to you because they're afraid of looking like a homo."

May be a bit backhanded, but you get the idea.

Hey, as long as such insecurities exist, might as well take advantage of them.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: SpaceProg on May 24, 2012, 06:51:16 pm
You got a point there, Nom.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on May 24, 2012, 08:36:19 pm
It's been a while since I've used a public restroom that there were people in. But I still get a mini-panic attack when I think about such things. Especially since people are starting to see me as male but I'm still too much of a coward to use the male restrooms.

I know you know this, but I'll tell you what a transman friend said to me about a year ago

"You know, at first I was nervous to use the male's room. I knew if I used the female's room I would get weird looks or yelled at and felt if I used the male's room I would get beaten up, but that's not true. Everyone in the male's room won't even look at you, and would never speak to you because they're afraid of looking like a homo."

May be a bit backhanded, but you get the idea.

Yeah, I used to use them when I was younger and I don't really recall anyone looking at me.

I guess it helps that I'm not in public a lot to need to use the restroom while out there.

It's been a while since I've used a public restroom that there were people in. But I still get a mini-panic attack when I think about such things. Especially since people are starting to see me as male but I'm still too much of a coward to use the male restrooms.
hugs shep

Thanks. And sorry for suddenly turning it to trans-stuff again. D:
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: N. De Plume on May 24, 2012, 10:35:24 pm
Thanks. And sorry for suddenly turning it to trans-stuff again. D:

Valid comment about an on-topic trans-related cartoon. Nothing to apologize for.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: e13 on May 24, 2012, 10:52:28 pm
It's been a while since I've used a public restroom that there were people in. But I still get a mini-panic attack when I think about such things. Especially since people are starting to see me as male but I'm still too much of a coward to use the male restrooms.

I know you know this, but I'll tell you what a transman friend said to me about a year ago

"You know, at first I was nervous to use the male's room. I knew if I used the female's room I would get weird looks or yelled at and felt if I used the male's room I would get beaten up, but that's not true. Everyone in the male's room won't even look at you, and would never speak to you because they're afraid of looking like a homo."

May be a bit backhanded, but you get the idea.

Yeah, I used to use them when I was younger and I don't really recall anyone looking at me.

I guess it helps that I'm not in public a lot to need to use the restroom while out there.

It's been a while since I've used a public restroom that there were people in. But I still get a mini-panic attack when I think about such things. Especially since people are starting to see me as male but I'm still too much of a coward to use the male restrooms.
hugs shep

Thanks. And sorry for suddenly turning it to trans-stuff again. D:
How dare a political thread cause you to discuss something important and highly influential on your life. For shame! /sarcasm
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on May 25, 2012, 07:48:20 am
Heh, thanks guys. :) *hugs all around*

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m4frm8RRrf1qbxkjao1_1280.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on May 25, 2012, 11:59:53 am
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/527801_10150865180212858_1502925229_n.jpg)

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/579310_460045164009242_544945838_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: gyeonghwa on May 25, 2012, 07:01:11 pm
Actually, this would probably be better in Funny/stupid pic thread.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Thejebusfire on May 26, 2012, 12:46:58 am
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m45gh9J9ss1rs9muoo1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: MadCatTLX on May 26, 2012, 01:22:03 am
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m45gh9J9ss1rs9muoo1_500.jpg)

This makes a great point,but look who our alternative is.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Her3tiK on May 26, 2012, 01:39:38 am
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m45gh9J9ss1rs9muoo1_500.jpg)

This makes a great point,but look who our alternative is.
The same thing but honest about it?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: N. De Plume on May 26, 2012, 11:22:27 am
Our problem is that the system enforces only two options.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Saturn500 on May 26, 2012, 12:39:40 pm
There's also a third option: the Libertarian presidential candidate...

So, in other words, I'm not voting.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Kristine on May 26, 2012, 02:24:42 pm
(http://0.tqn.com/d/politicalhumor/1/7/G/Z/4/Pay-Equity.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: SpaceProg on May 26, 2012, 02:58:56 pm
I may not vote next election either... wow.  I haven't really given much thought to that.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Kristine on May 26, 2012, 03:38:16 pm
(http://0.tqn.com/d/politicalhumor/1/7/M/Y/4/School-House-Rock-New.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cataclysm on May 26, 2012, 07:34:28 pm
Reminds me of this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKhXxvT9iak
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Kristine on May 26, 2012, 08:20:23 pm
(http://cdn.front.moveon.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/stfu-MAIN.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Kristine on May 26, 2012, 10:06:25 pm
lol - just found this one...
(http://www.redmeat.com/redmeat/2012-05-01/index-1.gif)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: e13 on May 27, 2012, 01:13:26 am
I may not vote next election either... wow.  I haven't really given much thought to that.
I don't know. Even if I'm stuck between bad and really bad, isn't it better to go with bad?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on May 27, 2012, 02:08:13 pm
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m4ofaf34s71rroz62o1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: SpaceProg on May 27, 2012, 02:18:15 pm
I may not vote next election either... wow.  I haven't really given much thought to that.
I don't know. Even if I'm stuck between bad and really bad, isn't it better to go with bad?

Hm... the old "Better the devil you know, then the devil you don't" strategy.  I may go with that... it's just a pity that only two parties have any chance in hell of candidates making it that far.

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m4ofaf34s71rroz62o1_500.jpg)

Wow... I like that one.    I've never actually been to that cemetery but I'd like to.  People who've been there have told me it took their breath away.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: e13 on May 27, 2012, 03:15:32 pm
I may not vote next election either... wow.  I haven't really given much thought to that.
I don't know. Even if I'm stuck between bad and really bad, isn't it better to go with bad?

Hm... the old "Better the devil you know, then the devil you don't" strategy.  I may go with that... it's just a pity that only two parties have any chance in hell of candidates making it that far.
I would love to legitimately vote for a third party candidate that wasn't either incredibly naive or crazy. Haven't found one yet.

I have voted for Dennis Kucinich, though. That made me feel good.

EDIT:
I also wouldn't say "devil you know." I'm fine taking risks, but I know Romney well enough. I prefer calling it the "lesser of two evils" or "smaller pile of shit" principle. I always pick the smaller pile.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: SpaceProg on May 27, 2012, 03:17:38 pm
Yeah, I thought Kucinich was pretty good too.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Saturn500 on May 27, 2012, 03:32:16 pm
I may not vote next election either... wow.  I haven't really given much thought to that.
I don't know. Even if I'm stuck between bad and really bad, isn't it better to go with bad?

Hm... the old "Better the devil you know, then the devil you don't" strategy.  I may go with that... it's just a pity that only two parties have any chance in hell of candidates making it that far.
I would love to legitimately vote for a third party candidate that wasn't either incredibly naive or crazy. Haven't found one yet.

I have voted for Dennis Kucinich, though. That made me feel good.

EDIT:
I also wouldn't say "devil you know." I'm fine taking risks, but I know Romney well enough. I prefer calling it the "lesser of two evils" or "smaller pile of shit" principle. I always pick the smaller pile.

Except they're both equally large piles of shit.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Thejebusfire on May 27, 2012, 03:50:08 pm
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m4ofaf34s71rroz62o1_500.jpg)

Is it wrong that my first thought was, "why is there a gas pump in the middle of a military cemetary?"
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: N. De Plume on May 27, 2012, 04:36:13 pm
I don’t see what most of those battles and wars have to do with the validity of complaints about gas prices.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: ironbite on May 27, 2012, 04:36:24 pm
I may not vote next election either... wow.  I haven't really given much thought to that.
I don't know. Even if I'm stuck between bad and really bad, isn't it better to go with bad?

Hm... the old "Better the devil you know, then the devil you don't" strategy.  I may go with that... it's just a pity that only two parties have any chance in hell of candidates making it that far.

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m4ofaf34s71rroz62o1_500.jpg)

Wow... I like that one.    I've never actually been to that cemetery but I'd like to.  People who've been there have told me it took their breath away.

Wouldn't say it took my breath away but it did give me pause.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Osama bin Bambi on May 27, 2012, 06:47:05 pm
I got that feeling when I visited the Vietnam Memorial in Washington, D.C. at night. It's just a wall, but it's very moving to consider that each of the names was a person, and each person had a story to tell.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on May 27, 2012, 08:03:30 pm
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/545049_369815909750002_103224119742517_1048677_1849714329_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Thejebusfire on May 27, 2012, 10:02:27 pm
(http://fatamerican.tv/wp-content/uploads/2003/02/sweatshop-labor.gif)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lt. Fred on May 27, 2012, 11:26:14 pm
Wow... I like that one.    I've never actually been to that cemetery but I'd like to.  People who've been there have told me it took their breath away.

Arlington? Do you know what it's built on?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: SpaceProg on May 28, 2012, 03:14:44 am
Freedman's Village.  Part of the cemetery anyway.  While that's unfortunate, it doesn't make the people represented there's lives any less meaningful. 
If history is taught, Freedman's Village will be remembered.  Its existence is not doomed to oblivion buried under slabs of marble.   Not yet, anyway.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lt. Fred on May 28, 2012, 03:25:25 am
Didn't know that. Did know that even before the Village it was General Lee's massive Roman mansion. The Quartermaster General, Meigs (who had lost a son to Lee's army) was given the gig of finding a spot to bury all the corpses produced by the war. Blaming Lee for the length of the conflict, and noting Lee's justification of the war as a defence of his land*, he decided to build the cemetery on that very land. Which is, I think, apt.

*IMO a bullshit justification.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: SpaceProg on May 28, 2012, 03:35:55 am
 *I* didn't know that ^
We've become mutually enriched!  It's like education sex. 
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cataclysm on May 28, 2012, 04:11:54 am
(http://fatamerican.tv/wp-content/uploads/2003/02/sweatshop-labor.gif)

Do you think if we didn't allow sweatshops, China would improve the working conditions for their citizens?

Quote
American companies threaten workers that if they do not accept benefit cuts, their jobs will go to Mexico. Mexicans are warned that if they do not accept cuts, their jobs will go to Honduras. Hondurans are intimidated that their jobs could go to Haiti. That is Haiti’s purpose. That is why living conditions in Haiti are not allowed to improve. This is essential to corporate profit, in the “free market system.”
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on May 28, 2012, 10:00:49 am
(http://fatamerican.tv/wp-content/uploads/2003/02/sweatshop-labor.gif)

Do you think if we didn't allow sweatshops, China would improve the working conditions for their citizens?

Quote
American companies threaten workers that if they do not accept benefit cuts, their jobs will go to Mexico. Mexicans are warned that if they do not accept cuts, their jobs will go to Honduras. Hondurans are intimidated that their jobs could go to Haiti. That is Haiti’s purpose. That is why living conditions in Haiti are not allowed to improve. This is essential to corporate profit, in the “free market system.”
Depends one alwys hard thing is Russia being as they buy and sell a lot of things yet is not a democracy. 
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on May 28, 2012, 03:30:21 pm
I've been to Arlington. Virtually and in the flesh. It's... something.

I just got back from visiting a different veteran cemetery where my grandpa and grandma are.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: e13 on May 28, 2012, 11:24:43 pm
I may not vote next election either... wow.  I haven't really given much thought to that.
I don't know. Even if I'm stuck between bad and really bad, isn't it better to go with bad?

Hm... the old "Better the devil you know, then the devil you don't" strategy.  I may go with that... it's just a pity that only two parties have any chance in hell of candidates making it that far.
I would love to legitimately vote for a third party candidate that wasn't either incredibly naive or crazy. Haven't found one yet.

I have voted for Dennis Kucinich, though. That made me feel good.

EDIT:
I also wouldn't say "devil you know." I'm fine taking risks, but I know Romney well enough. I prefer calling it the "lesser of two evils" or "smaller pile of shit" principle. I always pick the smaller pile.

Except they're both equally large piles of shit.
Considering one cuts military spending and plays lip-service to me pet-social causes and the other wants to increase military spending and pay lip-service to other social causes, I can safely say I consider one pile of shit smaller than the other. It's still shit, just less clean up.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Smurfette Principle on May 29, 2012, 02:13:02 pm
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m4pr8yqVAA1r49m1ho1_500.png)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Saturn500 on May 29, 2012, 02:48:24 pm
I think that's a repost.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: KZN02 on May 30, 2012, 12:59:50 am
Speaking of which, I recall a recent Mallard Fillmore comic strip (http://www.seattlepi.com/comics-and-games/fun/Mallard_Fillmore/2012-05-22/) about Obama talking about being the one responsible for killing Bin Laden.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on May 30, 2012, 01:40:15 am
Speaking of which, I recall a recent Mallard Fillmore comic strip (http://www.seattlepi.com/comics-and-games/fun/Mallard_Fillmore/2012-05-22/) about Obama talking about being the one responsible for killing Bin Laden.
File that under worst especially since he really never brought it up that much
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: DarkfireTaimatsu on May 30, 2012, 01:42:05 am
Speaking of which, I recall a recent Mallard Fillmore comic strip (http://www.seattlepi.com/comics-and-games/fun/Mallard_Fillmore/2012-05-22/) about Obama talking about being the one responsible for killing Bin Laden.
File that under worst especially since he really never brought it up that much

File it under worst because Mallard Fillmore.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: TigerHunter on May 30, 2012, 05:30:15 am
Speaking of which, I recall a recent Mallard Fillmore comic strip (http://www.seattlepi.com/comics-and-games/fun/Mallard_Fillmore/2012-05-22/) about Obama talking about being the one responsible for killing Bin Laden.
File that under worst especially since he really never brought it up that much

File it under worst because Mallard Fillmore.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/chris-kelly/mallard-fillmore-makes-me_b_38124.html
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Kristine on May 30, 2012, 10:05:45 am
(http://0.tqn.com/d/politicalhumor/1/7/F/Y/4/mitt-romney-auto-industry.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Kit Walker on May 30, 2012, 03:14:04 pm
File that under worst especially since he really never brought it up that much
Well, to be fair, he did bring it up on the one year anniversary, and got chastised for bragging and taking credit over the Navy SEALS from the right wing.

My dad and I figure the correct humble response involves an aircraft carrier just off shore, a flight suit, and a giant banner that says "mission accomplished".
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lt. Fred on May 30, 2012, 05:09:59 pm
He should accuse dissenters of treason for six years.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: TheL on May 30, 2012, 08:54:18 pm
Speaking of which, I recall a recent Mallard Fillmore comic strip (http://www.seattlepi.com/comics-and-games/fun/Mallard_Fillmore/2012-05-22/) about Obama talking about being the one responsible for killing Bin Laden.
File that under worst especially since he really never brought it up that much

File it under worst because Mallard Fillmore.

Agreed.  The art style is nice, but...Mallard Fillmore.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Thejebusfire on May 30, 2012, 11:10:23 pm
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m4k3qoXP1h1qkw3ajo1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on May 31, 2012, 07:15:26 am
(http://www.filibustercartoons.com/comics/20120530.gif)

Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lt. Fred on May 31, 2012, 09:29:53 pm
Except that's bullshit. Greek productivity isn't lower than the average.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: e13 on May 31, 2012, 11:10:53 pm
I know Germany's economy is working all right, these days, but I've yet to see any article explain why. Heck, I've seen studies saying, based upon average hours worked, US citizens are only behind the Japanese on the world stage in regards to working hard.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lt. Fred on June 01, 2012, 12:13:16 am
I know Germany's economy is working all right, these days,

Massive trade surpluses, maintained through internal devaluation in Germany (sabotage of other countries). Basically, the rest of Europe is subsidising Germany.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on June 01, 2012, 01:01:10 am
I think by number of hours Belgium works the least not Greece
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: largeham on June 01, 2012, 02:21:59 am
http://stats.oecd.org/Index.aspx?DataSetCode=ANHRS
Look at where Greece is, second behind (South I assume) Korea.

Also, Germany have already went through their austerity measures.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lt. Fred on June 01, 2012, 02:29:16 am
Also, Germany have already went through their austerity measures.

When?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Osama bin Bambi on June 01, 2012, 02:41:15 am
Tax evasion is like a national pastime in Greece or something. The government has taxes in place, but barely enforces them at all, all the while continuing to spend money on other things like pensions. Also, isn't their economy run by the Greek Orthodox Church or something?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on June 01, 2012, 04:57:17 am
Except that's bullshit. Greek productivity isn't lower than the average.

The comic is based on a survey, which asked the citizens of several European nations to name the country they believed to be the most “hard-working.” Britain, France, Germany, Spain, Italy, Poland, and the Czech Republic were all unanimous: it was the Germans. Only the Greeks dissented. Greece was the hardest-working country, they said.

Link to survey: http://www.pewglobal.org/2012/05/29/european-unity-on-the-rocks/

Links to articles about the Greek economic situation and its roots:
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/europe/the-roots-of-the-greek-tragedy-bloated-bureaucracy-and-tax-evasion/article2056715/
http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2010/may/07/greek-debt-crisis-jobs
http://www.vanityfair.com/business/features/2010/10/greeks-bearing-bonds-201010?printable=true
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/18/world/europe/greeces-bloated-bureaucracy-defies-efforts-to-cut-it.html?_r=1&pagewanted=all

And the problem isn't that the Greek people wouldn't work as hard as others, the two biggest problems are tax evasion and their bloated public sector bureucracy where the employees get paid extra for showing up to work and it is almost impossible to fire anyone and they have resisted all efforts to save money from public sector expenses...
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: KZN02 on June 01, 2012, 01:57:38 pm
So, looks like there's a meme growing from a typo on an app related to Romney: Link (http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/people/mitt-romney#appgaffe).

Amercia **** yeah?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: largeham on June 01, 2012, 07:44:05 pm
Also, Germany have already went through their austerity measures.

When?

SPD government in the early 2000s under Gerhard Shroeder.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lt. Fred on June 01, 2012, 10:54:41 pm
Also, Germany have already went through their austerity measures.

When?

SPD government in the early 2000s under Gerhard Shroeder.

If Greece had an enormous trade surplus, they too would be able to engage in a little pro-cyclical austerity. Of course, this would require major inflation in Germany, which they won't accept.

http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/05/06/german-adjustment/

The comic is based on a survey, which asked the citizens of several European nations to name the country they believed to be the most “hard-working.” Britain, France, Germany, Spain, Italy, Poland, and the Czech Republic were all unanimous: it was the Germans. Only the Greeks dissented. Greece was the hardest-working country, they said.

Link to survey: http://www.pewglobal.org/2012/05/29/european-unity-on-the-rocks/

Links to articles about the Greek economic situation and its roots:
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/europe/the-roots-of-the-greek-tragedy-bloated-bureaucracy-and-tax-evasion/article2056715/
http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2010/may/07/greek-debt-crisis-jobs
http://www.vanityfair.com/business/features/2010/10/greeks-bearing-bonds-201010?printable=true
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/18/world/europe/greeces-bloated-bureaucracy-defies-efforts-to-cut-it.html?_r=1&pagewanted=all

the two biggest problems are tax evasion and their bloated public sector bureucracy


Greece has the one of the smallest public sectors in Europe, much smaller than Germany. Tax evasion is a problem, though not a serious one (compare Greece to Spain, which has no structural deficit at all). The substantial budgetary problems are caused by 1) mass unemployment caused by the Bush Recession, 2) deflation caused by Germany and 3) a massive trade deficit caused by Germany. Austerity makes all of those problem worse, making Greece's deficit much higher, even in the short run.

Ultimately, Germany has to accept some responsibility for fixing the crisis, accepting much higher inflation (particularly in wages) and a trade deficit. Or, if Germany refuses to be responsible, Greece will leave the Euro (at vast cost to Germany) and force them to be responsible.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: chad sexington on June 02, 2012, 09:17:28 am
(http://www.filibustercartoons.com/comics/20120530.gif)

Quoting this from a few days back, because I only just now noticed the french stereotype is smoking his cigarette backward.  Is that a Thing, or do cartoonists no longer know tip from filter?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: largeham on June 02, 2012, 09:24:53 am
Maybe it's supposed to be the burnt part. Also, why is the Greek person wearing a fez? Aren't those Turkish?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: SpaceProg on June 02, 2012, 10:20:43 am
/me tries so hard to keep from saying "Because fezzes are cool".
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on June 02, 2012, 10:29:24 am
The way I see it was that Greeks were being truthful because based on #number of hours they are the hardest
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on June 02, 2012, 07:59:19 pm
NSFW and may not entirely be political:
(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cataclysm on June 02, 2012, 08:28:33 pm
Is she bi or gay and married the person she loved, like John Stoltenberg or Marcus Bachmann?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: armandtanzarian on June 02, 2012, 11:07:20 pm
(http://images2.dailykos.com/i/user/331054/1090ckLARGE-news---obama-evolution.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Quasirodent on June 03, 2012, 05:05:23 pm
/me tries so hard to keep from saying "Because fezzes are cool".

But they only come in Christian Blood red ;X
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on June 03, 2012, 06:04:10 pm
Is she bi or gay and married the person she loved, like John Stoltenberg or Marcus Bachmann?

To me it looks as if she's bi, and is in a open relationship.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on June 04, 2012, 04:13:12 am
Is she bi or gay and married the person she loved, like John Stoltenberg or Marcus Bachmann?

...I'm pretty sure the point of the comic has completely sailed over your head if you're asking those questions.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: The Right Honourable Mlle Antéchrist on June 04, 2012, 04:28:31 am
No kidding.

But, in answer to the question: She's bi, and wishes people would stop assuming that she's magically turned straight (or become a lesbian in denial) simply because she married a man.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Damen on June 04, 2012, 06:02:15 pm
NSFW and may not entirely be political:
(click to show/hide)

Thank you, Shane! I was trying to find her strip DAR (http://www.darcomic.org/) to reread for months but I couldn't remember what it was called or what her name was so I couldn't find it until now. *HUGS!*
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on June 05, 2012, 02:58:51 pm
Haha. You're welcome. XD
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Kristine on June 06, 2012, 12:36:42 am
(http://i.imgur.com/RdbEH.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on June 06, 2012, 12:41:16 am
(http://i.imgur.com/RdbEH.jpg)
Repost but a fitting one nether the less
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cataclysm on June 06, 2012, 12:45:25 am
Pfft, every good conservative sends their kids to Lord Assfly!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Thejebusfire on June 06, 2012, 06:04:28 pm
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m566daXiy51rxhq1xo1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on June 06, 2012, 07:38:54 pm
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m566daXiy51rxhq1xo1_500.jpg)
Yep besides like 5 people in France even  wears niqabs and literally none wear burqas
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Kristine on June 07, 2012, 02:16:08 am
(http://0.tqn.com/d/politicalhumor/1/7/s/Z/4/Do-Nothing-Congress.jpg)

(http://0.tqn.com/d/politicalhumor/1/7/_/Z/4/Contraception-Debate-Control.jpg)

(http://0.tqn.com/d/politicalhumor/1/0/S/1/4/sarah-palin-nightmare.jpg)okay it's not a cartoon...still...
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lt. Fred on June 07, 2012, 02:23:36 am
The burqua one is an extremely good point: our view that the burqua (or any of the other associated dress) is oppressive to women is a cultural view, a subjective one. Many women do in fact choose to wear such clothing, because their culture is different to ours. Difficult to understand, I know.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on June 07, 2012, 02:26:47 am
The burqua one is an extremely good point: our view that the burqua (or any of the other associated dress) is oppressive to women is a cultural view, a subjective one. Many women do in fact choose to wear such clothing, because their culture is different to ours. Difficult to understand, I know.
technically those are niqabs but point still stands.  But also many think how women in western society dress is oppressive to women seeing as it sexualizes them.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Thejebusfire on June 07, 2012, 02:31:58 pm
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m59erzsUhw1qa4ff3o1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: largeham on June 07, 2012, 11:44:37 pm
(http://0.tqn.com/d/politicalhumor/1/7/s/Z/4/Do-Nothing-Congress.jpg)

I've found they are generally quite good at this.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Sixth Monarchist on June 09, 2012, 06:31:05 am
Once again, from everybody's favourite publication (http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cartoon/2012/jun/09/rowson-spanish-banking-bailout-cartoon):

(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/commercial/2012/6/9/1339196664296/Martin-Rowson-cartoon-09.-001.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Jodie on June 10, 2012, 04:57:16 pm
(http://media.caglecartoons.com/media/cartoons/77/2012/06/05/112965_600.jpg)

(http://media.caglecartoons.com/media/cartoons/95/2012/06/06/113007_600.jpg)

(http://media.caglecartoons.com/media/cartoons/82/2012/06/06/113022_600.jpg)

(http://media.caglecartoons.com/media/cartoons/73/2012/06/06/113029_600.jpg)

(http://media.caglecartoons.com/media/cartoons/53/2012/06/06/113036_600.jpg)

(http://media.caglecartoons.com/media/cartoons/29/2012/06/08/113145_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: N. De Plume on June 10, 2012, 06:52:32 pm
You know, I thought that first comic with the Anger Management joke could have just as easily replied to Walker’s supporters had the recall been successful. Then I just realized that the 750,000 was the ballpark figure for the number of folks that signed the recall petition. Nice to see that there was a bit of thought there.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Thejebusfire on June 11, 2012, 02:33:00 am
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m59vfruOhf1rqxda0o1_400.jpg)

Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: gyeonghwa on June 12, 2012, 05:09:45 pm
(http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/319812_10151184440179692_1629043041_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on June 12, 2012, 05:13:06 pm
(http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/319812_10151184440179692_1629043041_n.jpg)

This gay cisman gives a big ol' thumbs up to this.

Trans rights is important to me, too, because LGBT is all about gender rights... to divorce one from the next is to become a hypocrite of a dangeorus magnitude.

That, and the fact that they get thrown under the bus by my so-called "brothers and sisters".

And it only got more important when I met people who are trans.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on June 12, 2012, 10:22:22 pm
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/181351_441912955827024_674397073_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on June 14, 2012, 12:27:33 pm
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m5ke1hcU4F1qak0qdo1_500.png)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on June 14, 2012, 02:04:56 pm
(https://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/600473_393580367344806_31013174_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Quasirodent on June 14, 2012, 03:02:57 pm
Sadly, even though I realize that the Earth is heading toward a shift that might make my survival very difficult, there really isn't much I can do about it.  Sign petitions, read, learn, try to plan ahead... sure.  But if you're living paycheck to paycheck and barely able to save enough money for a month's rent, your life is just too immediate to think about a future you have no control over. :/
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: SpaceProg on June 14, 2012, 10:12:13 pm
We either adapt and survive or die.  That's what it comes down to.  However that'll be achieved or not achieved... well... I guess that's up to us (some) and fate (most).
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on June 15, 2012, 05:02:47 am
(http://unfollowingjesus.com/files/2012/05/Jesus-On-Homsexuality.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: e13 on June 15, 2012, 08:33:58 am
(http://unfollowingjesus.com/files/2012/05/Jesus-On-Homsexuality.jpg)
Old Testement on rape, Old Testement on rape, interpretation of Soddam and Gamora... Paul's usual bitching... Yep, still no word back from Jesus.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Kristine on June 15, 2012, 09:59:13 am
(http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/250845_3220290478858_1245817727_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lt. Fred on June 15, 2012, 06:36:12 pm
(http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/250845_3220290478858_1245817727_n.jpg)

That is excellent.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: largeham on June 15, 2012, 09:50:55 pm
(http://unfollowingjesus.com/files/2012/05/Jesus-On-Homsexuality.jpg)

However the OT says a lot about the evils of homosexuality and Jesus endorsed the OT as the word of god.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lt. Fred on June 15, 2012, 10:10:44 pm
The Old Testament says to execute gays. It has nothing to say about them marrying.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on June 16, 2012, 02:08:51 am
The OT was mistranslated...
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: SpaceProg on June 16, 2012, 02:19:18 am
The Old Testament Laws were considered paid for by Jesus' sacrifice.  "You have heard ____, but I say ____" 
It's a different ballgame once Jesus comes onto the field.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Kristine on June 16, 2012, 07:05:32 am
(http://img.allvoices.com/thumbs/image/609/609/93134424-elizabeth-warren-vs-scott-brown.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: largeham on June 16, 2012, 07:15:34 am
The Old Testament says to execute gays. It has nothing to say about them marrying.

So? It is still against the OT laws to be homosexual, I don't think people are too fussed about marriage when they shouldn't exist in the first place.

The OT was mistranslated...

What do you mean?

The Old Testament Laws were considered paid for by Jesus' sacrifice.  "You have heard ____, but I say ____" 
It's a different ballgame once Jesus comes onto the field.

Since when?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: e13 on June 16, 2012, 12:38:30 pm

The Old Testament Laws were considered paid for by Jesus' sacrifice.  "You have heard ____, but I say ____" 
It's a different ballgame once Jesus comes onto the field.

Since when?
Since my entire Catholic education. In order to explain going from "crushing our enemies with faith" to "turning the other cheek," I was informed by my religious class instructors that Jesus was the "new Gospel" was what was important to follow, with the Ten Commandments and the faith of the prophets being what we could focus on.

Mind you, in sixth grade they started teaching me "non-literal" interpretation of the Bible, so take from that what you will.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: SpaceProg on June 16, 2012, 02:25:01 pm
^pretty much what I was going to say, though I didn't have a Catholic education.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: N. De Plume on June 16, 2012, 04:33:44 pm
Yeah, the Catholic education was good on the whole “Jesus replaced the law” thing, but the Catholic education ignores the bit where Jesus said, “I did not come to replace the law,” bit. Of course that does stand in opposition to all the places Jesus said to do things different from the law, thereby replacing it. So once again, it is just an example of the Bible being schizophrenic and otherwise able to be interpreted in just about whatever way is most convenient.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: SpaceProg on June 16, 2012, 05:00:01 pm
Pretty much, NomNom.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Kristine on June 16, 2012, 06:14:14 pm
(http://img.allvoices.com/thumbs/image/609/609/92867888-vaticanleaks.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: N. De Plume on June 16, 2012, 06:24:16 pm
Well, I guess that is pretty good, because I really did LOL. ;D
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on June 19, 2012, 01:38:43 pm
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/556080_474323122593133_866782346_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: ironbite on June 19, 2012, 04:34:58 pm
I can't fuck yeah that artist but I will give a fuck yeah to who posted it.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: N. De Plume on June 19, 2012, 06:35:14 pm
That is totally awesome!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Kristine on June 20, 2012, 10:10:11 am
not a cartoon - but still need to share

(http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/s480x480/547087_394818753887143_203809198_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: TheL on June 20, 2012, 06:46:50 pm
not a cartoon - but still need to share

(http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/s480x480/547087_394818753887143_203809198_n.jpg)

Not exactly the best cartoon, though, considering that the next-to-last paragraph is cut off.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on June 20, 2012, 11:59:45 pm
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/s480x480/206076_372288812836937_2059222464_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on June 21, 2012, 04:06:16 am
(http://www.filibustercartoons.com/comics/20120512.gif)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Smurfette Principle on June 24, 2012, 02:18:20 am
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m636wf2cUF1rroz62o1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cerim Treascair on June 24, 2012, 02:19:37 am
... good fuck that cartoon's disturbing...

... ... doesn't help I read through a lot of that kind of history, growing up.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on June 24, 2012, 02:21:54 am
She's got the Scarlet Letter and everything...
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cataclysm on June 24, 2012, 02:31:31 am
What does the v stand for? Vilify?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on June 24, 2012, 02:36:39 am
What does the v stand for? Vilify?

Vagina
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cataclysm on June 24, 2012, 02:53:28 am
Ah. I though it was reference to the swear ban.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: N. De Plume on June 24, 2012, 07:44:17 pm
Ah. I though it was reference to the swear ban.

World’s in a sad state when there can be concurrent stories that can be so easily and understandably confused like that.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cataclysm on June 26, 2012, 01:44:40 am
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/303510_494605620556631_1815943044_n.jpg)

(https://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/532523_494825870534606_1093509382_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Eniliad on June 26, 2012, 01:54:07 am
I will say that, under most circumstances (instances of abuse of power notwithstanding), cops are simply performing their duties; it's the laws that are stupid in that regard. </soapbox>
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Kristine on June 26, 2012, 02:29:18 am
(http://img.allvoices.com/thumbs/image/609/609/93318233-executive-privilege-flipmi-flopyu.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on June 26, 2012, 02:34:29 am
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m614lfOAj71qz4sr8o1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: largeham on June 26, 2012, 02:59:24 am
I will say that, under most circumstances (instances of abuse of power notwithstanding), cops are simply performing their duties; it's the laws that are stupid in that regard. </soapbox>

So? That doesn't make what they do right.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on June 26, 2012, 03:04:25 am
I will say that, under most circumstances (instances of abuse of power notwithstanding), cops are simply performing their duties; it's the laws that are stupid in that regard. </soapbox>

So? That doesn't make what they do right.

Police should not pick and choose which laws to follow and enforce.  Those that do are what we like to call "corrupt cops."
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on June 26, 2012, 03:25:39 am
...

I should go.

*turns and walks away*
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: largeham on June 26, 2012, 03:40:01 am
Police should not pick and choose which laws to follow and enforce.  Those that do are what we like to call "corrupt cops."

That doesn't answer the point. And no, that's not what a corrupt cop is.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Auri-El on June 26, 2012, 10:01:04 am
A cop that doesn't enforce laws simply because s/he doesn't like them probably won't stay a cop very long. It's really not much different from a pharmacist refusing to dispense medications s/he doesn't think people should take. It's a matter of doing the job you were given, even the distasteful parts.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on June 26, 2012, 10:47:21 am
>> If we're going to rehash the same arguments we basically have every 3 months can we at least make a new thread before it gets too far? Please?

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m64wabzeSU1qbxkjao1_1280.jpg)
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m5zrpiw4XV1r60uj6o1_500.jpg)
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m61rnpLCwS1qa38rto1_1280.jpg)
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m60iemc5eg1qze542o1_1280.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Kristine on June 27, 2012, 03:24:44 am
(http://img.allvoices.com/thumbs/image/609/609/93313021-bugs.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Vypernight on June 27, 2012, 05:20:10 am


(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m64wabzeSU1qbxkjao1_1280.jpg)

THIS 1000%!  If the GOP spent half the energy into actually fixing the economy, we'd barely even have unemployment!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cataclysm on June 27, 2012, 04:08:42 pm
(https://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/282350_483848251644633_531466706_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cerim Treascair on June 27, 2012, 05:26:51 pm
Of course, that one's reblogged by one of the badasses in this world, George Takei.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on June 27, 2012, 07:59:53 pm


(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m64wabzeSU1qbxkjao1_1280.jpg)

THIS 1000%!  If the GOP spent half the energy into actually fixing the economy, we'd barely even have unemployment!

Yeah, but the GOP nowadays is all about opposing those "evil liberals" at every turn. We could get some shit done if the GOP was level headed, and gave a shit for the country, but I won't hold my breath on that one. Even republicans that used to be considered "moderate" like to join the batshit insane bandwagon every so often.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: N. De Plume on June 27, 2012, 08:36:13 pm
Yeah, but the GOP nowadays is all about opposing those "evil liberals" at every turn. We could get some shit done if the GOP was level headed, and gave a shit for the country, but I won't hold my breath on that one. Even republicans that used to be considered "moderate" like to join the batshit insane bandwagon every so often.

Yeah, it seems they really don’t care about getting things done so long as they come out on top. They just want to be king. They don’t care if they are King of Shit Mountain when they could be so much better off. They just wanna be King. I think there’s a well known quote from Milton (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradise_Lost#Satan) that sums up that attitude fairly nicely. Except I prefer talking about Shit Mountain instead of Hell.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: CaseAgainstFaith on June 28, 2012, 09:16:59 am
(http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/8858/slihouettemanwonderswtf.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Smurfette Principle on July 01, 2012, 05:59:52 pm
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6hu7zITfH1qagxppo1_500.gif)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on July 01, 2012, 11:37:33 pm
(https://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/532072_488670017826317_4149920_n.jpg)

(https://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/486489_457056540971996_1817820215_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Kristine on July 03, 2012, 03:07:46 am
(http://img.allvoices.com/thumbs/image/609/609/93440679-religious-right-and-obamacare.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on July 03, 2012, 05:49:56 am
(http://laughingsquid.com/wp-content/uploads/net-declaration.png)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: N. De Plume on July 03, 2012, 06:38:07 am
You forgot the link: http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120701/22394419546/announcing-declaration-internet-freedom.shtml (http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120701/22394419546/announcing-declaration-internet-freedom.shtml)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on July 05, 2012, 05:48:14 pm
(http://choosywomen.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/208934_253639041413279_1928995889_n.jpeg)

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/295387_498294993529350_1817356313_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Kristine on July 06, 2012, 10:17:30 am
(http://wondermark.com/c/2012-07-06-851earnings.gif)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Patches on July 06, 2012, 11:00:08 am
(http://wondermark.com/c/2012-07-06-851earnings.gif)

Bah.  Don't you know only lazy freeloaders (http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2012/07/05/511463/gop-rep-minimum-wage-get-a-job/) complain about not being paid a living wage?

Quote
CONSTITUENT: 10 bucks, that would give us a living wage.

YOUNG: How about getting a job?

CONSTITUENT: I do have one.

YOUNG: Well, then why do you want that benefit? Get a job.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Kristine on July 07, 2012, 04:05:19 am
(http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/s480x480/309386_378933782160698_22446104_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: N. De Plume on July 07, 2012, 11:30:16 am
Quote
CONSTITUENT: 10 bucks, that would give us a living wage.

YOUNG: How about getting a job?

CONSTITUENT: I do have one.

YOUNG: Well, then why do you want that benefit? Get a job.

Way to pay attention.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Kristine on July 07, 2012, 11:48:01 am
(http://www.slowpokecomics.com/strips/fallopitarians.png)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: ThunderWulf on July 08, 2012, 10:23:08 am
(http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/524153_440324819331320_1839638244_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Saturn500 on July 08, 2012, 11:44:42 am
That should be an Etch-A-Sketch instead of a flip-flop. Or maybe a flip-flop drawn on an Etch-A-Sketch.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: KZN02 on July 09, 2012, 02:22:01 am
That should be an Etch-A-Sketch instead of a flip-flop. Or maybe a flip-flop drawn on an Etch-A-Sketch.
Or an Etch-A-Sketch flip-flop combo?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: TheL on July 09, 2012, 09:58:40 am
That should be an Etch-A-Sketch instead of a flip-flop. Or maybe a flip-flop drawn on an Etch-A-Sketch.
Or an Etch-A-Sketch flip-flop combo?

Or waffles!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Her3tiK on July 09, 2012, 10:40:59 am
That should be an Etch-A-Sketch instead of a flip-flop. Or maybe a flip-flop drawn on an Etch-A-Sketch.
Or an Etch-A-Sketch flip-flop combo?

Or waffles!
If they did that, I would like something that came out of his mouth for once.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on July 09, 2012, 12:33:36 pm
(https://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/s480x480/532537_495558787124546_91261495_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: ironbite on July 09, 2012, 01:38:21 pm
What if I find both images arousing?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cerim Treascair on July 09, 2012, 02:01:10 pm
What if I find both images arousing?

Happily bi, then?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on July 09, 2012, 02:01:41 pm
(https://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/s480x480/532537_495558787124546_91261495_n.jpg)
Probably should invert that for yaoi fangirls
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Id82 on July 09, 2012, 04:46:30 pm
Are you a homophobe if you prefer the one on the right over the left and would rather look at the one on the right, but don't find either of them offensive?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Distind on July 09, 2012, 04:50:54 pm
(https://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/s480x480/532537_495558787124546_91261495_n.jpg)
What if you find the one on the left offensive because they both look like Edward Cullen to you?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Bezron on July 09, 2012, 04:52:50 pm
What if the one on the left just isn't your cup of tea (but not offended by any means)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: gyeonghwa on July 09, 2012, 05:10:12 pm
(https://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/s480x480/532537_495558787124546_91261495_n.jpg)

Who is the black hair dude kissing Levi? He's hot.

Also I don't think the one on the right inherently offensive on it's own, but I do side eye when people assume they're doing it for straight guys.

NOTE: I'm not accusing anyone of that, but there is this false perception that women do sexual things with each other in order to please straight guys. It's a bit of straight male entitlement.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on July 09, 2012, 05:15:05 pm
Gye aren't you all doing everything for my personal gratification. If you aren't, start right now.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: gyeonghwa on July 09, 2012, 05:16:47 pm
Gye aren't you all doing everything for my personal gratification. If you aren't, start right now.

You get a waiting period like everyone else. :P
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Alehksunos on July 09, 2012, 07:44:01 pm
(https://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/s480x480/532537_495558787124546_91261495_n.jpg)
If there is one thing that will always piss me off, it will be the "guy on guy is ew, but girl on girl is hot" meme. Same thing the inversion of that stupid meme.

Homophobia is homophobia. "Hates gays but loves lesbians"; homophobia. "Loves gays but hates lesbians"; homophobia. "Hates both"; obviously homophobia.

What if the one on the left just isn't your cup of tea (but not offended by any means)
You at least get a free pass. I'm just sick of the double standards I've mentioned (don't get these words wrong).
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on July 09, 2012, 08:46:32 pm
What gets me is when guys accuse girls who draw guy/guy of being "gay", despite knowing that they're female.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: The Right Honourable Mlle Antéchrist on July 09, 2012, 09:46:43 pm
(https://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/s480x480/532537_495558787124546_91261495_n.jpg)

My step mom is an odd inversion of this. She thinks that it's okay for guys to be gay, but is against lesbianism. Apparently, she believes that only guys can "naturally" be gay.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Thejebusfire on July 09, 2012, 10:45:49 pm
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6jx9g7Or51qim75eo1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on July 09, 2012, 11:01:17 pm
(https://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/431919_443401599015879_1824178775_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on July 09, 2012, 11:34:43 pm
Gee, that isn't symbolic at all...
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cerim Treascair on July 09, 2012, 11:38:10 pm
Okay, while that's a massive movie reference, DAMN is it appropriate!

... well done.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cataclysm on July 10, 2012, 12:54:27 am
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6jx9g7Or51qim75eo1_500.jpg)

If it's done by a man, he's an emasculated good-for-nothing. Unless it's done for pay.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: gyeonghwa on July 10, 2012, 05:12:04 am
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6jx9g7Or51qim75eo1_500.jpg)

I was pleasantly surprised that people liked this post when I posted it, but there was one feminist who took issue with it (and took issue with the fact that the women on the bottom were women of color.) That said, most people thought it was very pro-feminist.

But I can I take a moment to brag that something I posted has over 400 notes?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: e13 on July 10, 2012, 09:02:34 am
(https://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/s480x480/532537_495558787124546_91261495_n.jpg)
How about this. I find myself, very often, filled with "ew" at guy on guy. It does not do it for me, never will. In a sad correlarry, and yes, straight male entitlement, I find woman on woman hot as fuck, even though that's a sign of them not wanting any, er, help. Yes, maybe I am homophobic, I don't know. I can't control my gut reaction of "ew."

What I can control is my response. I will not say "ew" to any gay male couple's face (hell, I'll probably leave it in my tiny brain where it belongs), I will fight for their right to have PDA in a decent manner as any straight couple, I will fight and support love in all forms, and I will also never accuse women of being affectionate towards another woman just to pick up guys.

Just my thoughts and all.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on July 10, 2012, 10:02:03 am
I think there is a difference between simply going "eww" because you that was a reaction to seeing a certain type of sexual behavior that is not your thing and getting on the barricades protesting against it.


I mean I know that there is much gay-sex going on, but even though I would not participate in it I am not demanding that no-one should be allowed to have gay-sex.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Canadian Mojo on July 10, 2012, 12:43:02 pm
(https://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/s480x480/532537_495558787124546_91261495_n.jpg)
How about this. I find myself, very often, filled with "ew" at guy on guy. It does not do it for me, never will. In a sad correlarry, and yes, straight male entitlement, I find woman on woman hot as fuck, even though that's a sign of them not wanting any, er, help. Yes, maybe I am homophobic, I don't know. I can't control my gut reaction of "ew."

What I can control is my response. I will not say "ew" to any gay male couple's face (hell, I'll probably leave it in my tiny brain where it belongs), I will fight for their right to have PDA in a decent manner as any straight couple, I will fight and support love in all forms, and I will also never accuse women of being affectionate towards another woman just to pick up guys.

Just my thoughts and all.
You're not homophobic, you're an adult. You're allowed to not like things. Hell, you're allowed to think things are disgusting, vile, and downright nauseating. What you're not allowed to do is try to stamp those things out of existence if the only 'harm' they are doing to you or anyone else is that you know they are there.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: SpaceProg on July 10, 2012, 12:44:15 pm
I'm nonplussed by both of them.  Yay, Asexuality!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: gyeonghwa on July 10, 2012, 01:09:23 pm
I'm nonplussed by both of them.  Yay, Asexuality!

(http://queereka.com/files/2012/01/The_Asexual_Flag_by_LoneWolfN8.jpg)

:D
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Vypernight on July 10, 2012, 01:18:42 pm
(https://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/s480x480/532537_495558787124546_91261495_n.jpg)

Love the pic on the right,
grossed out by the one on the left,
have no problem with any of them having equal rights.

Of course, that's only because I find all men to be disgusting, including myself, but I've already admitted I'm weird.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on July 10, 2012, 03:32:08 pm
Perhaps it needs some work.

Instead of saying offended, if it said...

"If you want to stop the image on the left from happening, but not the image on the right... (image) congratulations, you're a homophobe."

Would that be better?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cataclysm on July 10, 2012, 10:10:35 pm
If you want both to stop happening, you're a homophobe.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Saturn500 on July 10, 2012, 10:15:19 pm
If you want to stop either from happening, you're a homophobe.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Kristine on July 11, 2012, 02:50:55 am

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/538640_337009329694779_119640064765041_936271_467811438_n.jpg)
I like it... :P
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on July 11, 2012, 04:50:58 pm
You guys are using a very strong word. 'Disgusting' is a very, very strong word. I really don't like that word when it comes to things like love and the like.

Besides, the caption did say offensive not if it squicks you or if you're not into it.

It's like saying I don't like to eat crab but someone else does. I don't find it my kind of thing, but it isn't offensive and I wouldn't try to ban crab eating.

Words are important.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Kristine on July 12, 2012, 12:06:46 am
(http://i.imgur.com/9O87D.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Undecided on July 12, 2012, 01:22:30 am
(http://i.imgur.com/9O87D.jpg)
Not to rain on your parade, but Strawman has a point (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/StrawmanHasAPoint). There actually is a risk compensation effect in play with regards to automobile safety, with drivers adjusting for improvements in safety technology by taking greater risks while driving—which is why, e.g., automobile fatalities in the US have declined only by 20% since the country's heyday of consumer protection.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on July 12, 2012, 01:31:14 am
(http://i.imgur.com/9O87D.jpg)
Not to rain on your parade, but Strawman has a point (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/StrawmanHasAPoint). There actually is a risk compensation effect in play with regards to automobile safety, with drivers adjusting for improvements in safety technology by taking greater risks while driving—which is why, e.g., automobile fatalities in the US have declined only by 20% since the country's heyday of consumer protection.
Yeah to use the example of ABS people now are more likely to speed on ice
I guess a better example for cars is probably seatbelts
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lt. Fred on July 12, 2012, 06:45:11 pm
(https://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/s480x480/532537_495558787124546_91261495_n.jpg)

I have to admit to finding male homosexuality uncomfortable, but then I don't use emotional first responses as a basis for political ideology.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on July 12, 2012, 06:46:46 pm
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/552238_317566858335490_1846352308_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Vypernight on July 12, 2012, 06:49:41 pm
You guys are using a very strong word. 'Disgusting' is a very, very strong word. I really don't like that word when it comes to things like love and the like.

Besides, the caption did say offensive not if it squicks you or if you're not into it.

It's like saying I don't like to eat crab but someone else does. I don't find it my kind of thing, but it isn't offensive and I wouldn't try to ban crab eating.

Words are important.

What if I'm using it to also describe myself?  I just get grossed out by the male anatomy, including my own.  Two guys (or women) can do what they want, and I'll support it 100%, including getting married and adopting.  I just want nothing to do with it myself.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on July 13, 2012, 06:36:14 am
You guys are using a very strong word. 'Disgusting' is a very, very strong word. I really don't like that word when it comes to things like love and the like.

Besides, the caption did say offensive not if it squicks you or if you're not into it.

It's like saying I don't like to eat crab but someone else does. I don't find it my kind of thing, but it isn't offensive and I wouldn't try to ban crab eating.

Words are important.

What if I'm using it to also describe myself?  I just get grossed out by the male anatomy, including my own.  Two guys (or women) can do what they want, and I'll support it 100%, including getting married and adopting.  I just want nothing to do with it myself.

Tell me how that has anything to do with what I said first. Because I may have had little sleep but as far as I see it, what you said doesn't have much to do with what I said about using strong language like 'disgusting' to describe relationships and other such things and using it as a basis to deny other peoples' happiness in consensual relationships.

You want to be squicked out, fine. That's your business. But like I said...

Orthodox Jews don't eat pork and such but they don't exactly try to ban it for other people.

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m73h8bcarZ1rwc0jyo1_500.png)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on July 13, 2012, 11:46:15 am
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/409600_397174643672210_1071428082_n.jpg)

(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/582024_474174032594643_1196995111_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: gyeonghwa on July 13, 2012, 02:31:57 pm
Not sure if this goes here:

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m4xuql5vBN1qmelego1_1280.png)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Sixth Monarchist on July 14, 2012, 07:13:37 am
Are they ever going to realize this attitude of "OMG U 4GOT SUM1!!!!!" is the kind of thing that keeps people from taking them seriously? This is a sensitive enough topic as it is, without people losing their shit because a well-intentioned message happened to miss a particular group. Hell, when it comes to all this gender stuff, I can barely keep track of all the fucking classifications people make up to identify themselves. It's why I typically try to avoid this topic on the forums; I simple don't know what the hell half the definitions even mean.
...
Sorry about the rant. The attitude of "OMG you don't agree with me 100%" that I get when it comes to sex/gender issues bugs the shit out of me, and makes it really hard to want to support these people/groups at all.

Exactly. The only time I've ever encountered someone openly asexual or pansexual is online, quite often complaining about these issues; they don't seem to exist offline, and I'm pretty sure this isn't just my terrible social life that causes it. Male/Female, LGB/Straight probably describes at least 97% of humanity. If people seem to think you're invisible, it might be because of prejudice, but it's also quite likely to be because your kind of sexuality/gender identity is as common as number 93 onwards of the Periodic Table.

On a more relevant note:

(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2012/7/13/1342199876853/Martin-Rowson-14.07.2012-002.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: N. De Plume on July 14, 2012, 08:05:58 am
That is probably the most accurate depiction of modern politics ever.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Quasirodent on July 14, 2012, 11:17:51 am
Just to clarify, I'm not the person who has the 'only CISwomen' issue with the picture.   Please don't assume that those are my words/opinions.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Kristine on July 14, 2012, 04:09:30 pm
(http://img.allvoices.com/thumbs/image/609/609/93592213-speaker-boehner%27s-repeal-and-replace-to-do-list.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on July 15, 2012, 12:58:15 am
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m70ebveJfh1qfh1gjo1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: gyeonghwa on July 15, 2012, 03:56:19 am
I was thinking that too.  ???
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on July 15, 2012, 08:30:40 am
(http://i47.tinypic.com/5cg0uu.gif)
So, I don't really try to figure out if someone is trans or not. And for all I know, they could just have a more feminine or more masculine frame (depending). Because bodies are weird like that. It's why I ask for pronouns. Because I could be wrong but that's me because I have a hard time judging in the first place. And so do many others. But I still stand behind the 'not always obvious'. Because, Queenie, you are the exception does not mean the rule is out the window. And there may very well be somebody you don't correctly 'tag'.

*shrugs*
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: QueenofHearts on July 15, 2012, 08:46:00 am
I never meant to insinuate that I could spot 100% of transpeople 100% of the time, nor did I say that anyone could for that matter. I said that there are little things that differentiate the genders and that it is possible to recognize even a very passable transperson from a cisperson. I even said that just because some of these subtleties exist in a fictitious internet picture, we "shouldn't assume...". So I clearly never meant to say that these things should be taken as hard evidence. These subtleties I am talking about noticing are at least more obvious to the transpeople whom I have talked to (IRL and online) as well as myself since many of us notice these things readily in our own features and they cause us a bit to good deal of insecurity.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on July 15, 2012, 08:56:56 am
Fair enough.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: SpaceProg on July 15, 2012, 09:18:02 am
Peace and love?   Hugs and happiness?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on July 15, 2012, 09:19:04 am
We already kinda fizzled it out. lol It was a small misunderstanding on my part with Queenie. My apologies.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Quasirodent on July 15, 2012, 10:37:44 am
I brought it up, and the other items, because they came up in the flamewar surrounding that image, but yes, the point that was being made is that if there is no extra effort made to make sure your audience knows the character being portrayed is trans, then trans is not being represented.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Her3tiK on July 15, 2012, 10:51:21 am
My apologies for putting things poorly. As QoH said, I've mentioned in a different thread that I can barely keep track of which term refers to what lifestyle/trait/whatever, so I generally avoid topics like this. I still have to disagree about transpeople not being obvious, as per the point I'd originally tried to make. Some of them may not be, but my experience says otherwise.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on July 15, 2012, 11:07:13 am
*just sighs and shakes head before moving the fuck on*

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lzhsjr97RH1qzeb7lo3_1280.jpg)
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lzhsjr97RH1qzeb7lo12_r1_1280.jpg)
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m72j5rylOw1rroz62o1_500.jpg)
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m721qtTfpc1qguulqo1_500.jpg)
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m72o93EbyT1r4913wo1_1280.jpg)
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m73s2x1xUe1qh3h8wo1_1280.png)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on July 15, 2012, 12:13:41 pm
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lzhsjr97RH1qzeb7lo12_r1_1280.jpg)

This is so full of win, I'm stealing this shit
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: booley on July 15, 2012, 01:36:38 pm
(http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2012/07/08/opinion/sunday/the-strip-slide-05F8/the-strip-slide-05F8-jumbo.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cataclysm on July 15, 2012, 06:44:51 pm
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/599509_10151112203792502_245713541_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: KZN02 on July 15, 2012, 09:12:02 pm
Funny, the bottom right pic of the shirt was on Dumbest Protest Signs.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on July 15, 2012, 10:17:01 pm
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/306817_395479333844560_865233065_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: SpaceProg on July 16, 2012, 03:21:45 pm
Y'all... C'mon, now...
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Distind on July 16, 2012, 03:25:32 pm
Y'all... C'mon, now...
Don't worry, they went.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on July 16, 2012, 03:34:36 pm
Y'all... C'mon, now...
Don't worry, they went.
Thanks, that got out of hands.

(http://www.filibustercartoons.com/comics/20120710.gif)
For those who forgot, the comic is about this kid: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0712/78068.html
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on July 17, 2012, 05:53:23 am
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m732a9GxId1rux9hzo1_1280.jpg)
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m73lqbXIcA1rp440no1_500.gif)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on July 17, 2012, 12:13:57 pm

(http://www.filibustercartoons.com/comics/20120710.gif)
For those who forgot, the comic is about this kid: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0712/78068.html

And the best part is the right is having at a hissy fit over it.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: MadCatTLX on July 17, 2012, 04:33:40 pm

(http://www.filibustercartoons.com/comics/20120710.gif)
For those who forgot, the comic is about this kid: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0712/78068.html

And the best part is the right is having at a hissy fit over it.

The best part for me is the preview screen cap for the second video on the page.

(http://img542.imageshack.us/img542/8123/itwasconservatives.png)

(http://img685.imageshack.us/img685/3686/itwasconservatives2.png)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Zygarde on July 17, 2012, 06:12:36 pm
Shouldn't it say liberals instead of conservatives?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: MadCatTLX on July 17, 2012, 07:22:37 pm
Shouldn't it say liberals instead of conservatives?

I'm basing it on his current opinions. I half-assed the the caption anyway.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Kristine on July 17, 2012, 11:25:13 pm
(http://img.allvoices.com/thumbs/image/609/609/93673687-at-the-church-of-the-job-creators.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: e13 on July 18, 2012, 01:07:52 pm
(http://img.allvoices.com/thumbs/image/609/609/93673687-at-the-church-of-the-job-creators.jpg)
Pretty much how I feel we're expected to act. You build your money on the work of others, but I forget, you deserve more tax breaks.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Damen on July 18, 2012, 01:11:27 pm
(http://img.allvoices.com/thumbs/image/609/609/93673687-at-the-church-of-the-job-creators.jpg)

Interesting that this would get posted. Not too long ago my dad and I were in the car and I mentioned that it seemed to me like every time I hear a Republican mention "job creators" they would seem to say it with a feeling of reverence and awe.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on July 18, 2012, 11:03:17 pm
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/s480x480/534756_451149724907211_2143351974_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: booley on July 19, 2012, 12:47:08 am
(http://www.bartcop.com/stossel-babbling_4.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: e13 on July 19, 2012, 09:29:58 am
(http://www.bartcop.com/stossel-babbling_4.jpg)
*facepalm* Stossel "exposed" the professional "beggar" racket, didn't he.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: QueenofHearts on July 19, 2012, 03:39:35 pm
(http://www.bartcop.com/stossel-babbling_4.jpg)
*facepalm* Stossel "exposed" the professional "beggar" racket, didn't he.

He did something in 2005 about panhandling and how they live like kings making six figures or whatever, but I don't think he was the first. This is also the guy that got slapped in the face by a professional wrestler, sued the wrestling company for half a million dollars, won, and then and cries about "frivolous lawsuits, tort reform, and non-economic damage caps."

Yeah, he got his, screw everyone else.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Kit Walker on July 19, 2012, 05:05:52 pm
This is also the guy that got slapped in the face by a professional wrestler, sued the wrestling company for half a million dollars, won, and then and cries about "frivolous lawsuits, tort reform, and non-economic damage caps."

Yeah, he got his, screw everyone else.

I looked it up on Wikipedia, because I was all "dafuq?". That happened in 1984, and he purportedly regrets the lawsuit now. I don't think it's quite fair to take someone to task for changing their opinion in the course of a decade or two. Besides, that lawsuit was hardly frivolous. Those were the days where wrestlers were (supposedly) under orders to physically assault anyone who said that wrestling was less than 100% real. Any company whose policy involves physical assault deserves to be sued.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: QueenofHearts on July 19, 2012, 05:20:15 pm
I looked it up on Wikipedia, because I was all "dafuq?". That happened in 1984, and he purportedly regrets the lawsuit now. I don't think it's quite fair to take someone to task for changing their opinion in the course of a decade or two. Besides, that lawsuit was hardly frivolous. Those were the days where wrestlers were (supposedly) under orders to physically assault anyone who said that wrestling was less than 100% real. Any company whose policy involves physical assault deserves to be sued.

Two slaps to the face, just under half a million dollars. Hardly gives the guy the principles or legitimacy to tout things like tort reform when he made more money through the courts via those two slaps than most of this board would make in a decade. Besides, I brought it up mainly because it makes me laugh whenever I see him and think "this smug jerk got half a million dollars worth of butthurt out of being slapped in the face"

ETA: I also think its hypocritical that he didn't "regret" the suit so much as to give the money back, or even donate/forward it to a good cause. Just makes me think, again, that he got his so screw everyone else.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on July 19, 2012, 08:37:45 pm
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/s480x480/551219_499550383392053_410115715_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Kristine on July 20, 2012, 10:17:48 am
(http://cdn.front.moveon.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/20-years-MAIN.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on July 20, 2012, 11:46:48 am
Even if there was a detailed plan on how to fix it, republicans won't accept it, shit they go apeshit over ideas that were theirs from the get go.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Damen on July 20, 2012, 10:41:07 pm
(http://img.allvoices.com/thumbs/image/609/609/93773377-ado-theater-shooting.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Her3tiK on July 20, 2012, 11:12:33 pm
(http://img.allvoices.com/thumbs/image/609/609/93773377-ado-theater-shooting.jpg)
GITCHER HANDS OFF UV MAH GUNS YEW FREADUM HAYTING COMMIE!!!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on July 20, 2012, 11:33:10 pm
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/s480x480/179510_498941113465874_1980976109_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on July 21, 2012, 10:37:37 am
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/s480x480/380721_10151053365314834_1408562629_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: chad sexington on July 21, 2012, 10:16:14 pm
Kinda NSFW-ish:

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: TigerHunter on July 21, 2012, 10:21:50 pm
British political cartoons are weird.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: N. De Plume on July 21, 2012, 10:59:12 pm
Ew, ew, ew! Not the kind of NSFW I was looking for!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: starseeker on July 22, 2012, 06:03:56 am
Ah the whole fun with the olympic sponsors.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: booley on July 22, 2012, 11:44:18 am
(http://media.caglecartoons.com/media/cartoons/89/2012/07/20/115527_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Auri-El on July 23, 2012, 08:09:14 pm
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/387050_10150959972406275_839194845_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lt. Fred on July 24, 2012, 01:06:45 am
More like he retroactively retired in 2012, effective 1999.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: TigerHunter on July 25, 2012, 12:31:21 am
(http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k284/TigerHunter9002/531686_10150962055991275_80644853_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Distind on July 26, 2012, 01:06:25 pm
Other thread moved to other thread.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: SpaceProg on July 26, 2012, 01:32:31 pm
Well, we got rid of Osama and Saddam... or is this concerning purely domestic threats?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on July 26, 2012, 01:42:38 pm
Well, we got rid of Osama and Saddam... or is this concerning purely domestic threats?

Well Osama and Saddam got taken down by U.S. armed forces not by citizens using their right to bear arms.


Also: Where did the gun talk go to? I can't seem to find the other thread.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Distind on July 26, 2012, 01:44:00 pm
http://forums.fstdt.net/politics-and-government/bangbang-discussion/
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: SpaceProg on July 26, 2012, 01:45:18 pm
Whoopsies.  Sorry.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Kristine on July 26, 2012, 10:04:34 pm
(http://img.allvoices.com/thumbs/image/609/609/93861697-sally-ride-rip.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: SpaceProg on July 26, 2012, 11:01:08 pm
That is just so cool.  *Saves*
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: KZN02 on July 27, 2012, 12:08:56 am
(http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2012/208/a/5/a5fa98a045376380fa268a424b8dcdda-d58v45m.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cataclysm on July 27, 2012, 12:58:21 am
Thank you Rush Limbaugh. If you didn't point that out, this hilarious cartoon wouldn't have been made.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Smurfette Principle on July 27, 2012, 08:23:23 am
Don't mind me, just having a quiet fangasm over BAT-OBAMA.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: VirtualStranger on July 27, 2012, 09:48:17 pm
This isn't technically a political cartoon. I don't care, I'm posting it here anyway.

(http://i.imgur.com/8nfIB.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Igor on July 28, 2012, 08:17:57 am
This isn't technically a political cartoon. I don't care, I'm posting it here anyway.

(http://i.imgur.com/8nfIB.jpg)
..."Gay Bowel Syndrome"? That's a new one...
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: The Right Honourable Mlle Antéchrist on July 28, 2012, 09:03:16 am
Gay bowel syndrome was used to describe various gastrointestinal issues thought to arise from gay sex back in the 70s and early 80s.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Igor on July 28, 2012, 09:27:26 am
Huh. I didn't know that. Well, you learn something new every day, I guess, and by "learn something new" I mean "learn about stupid things people used to think when they should know better by now".
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on July 28, 2012, 07:30:46 pm
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/251985_509419379083749_1107387687_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lt. Fred on July 28, 2012, 07:48:23 pm
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/251985_509419379083749_1107387687_n.jpg)

These colours, they definitely don't run. Never ever.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: KZN02 on July 28, 2012, 10:20:18 pm
(http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2012/210/8/f/8fabf4310fcb830c0c6536958cf82e1d-d5938tx.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: N. De Plume on July 29, 2012, 09:46:32 am
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/251985_509419379083749_1107387687_n.jpg)

Didn’t Rush Limbaugh call that one?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on July 29, 2012, 02:50:41 pm
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/251985_509419379083749_1107387687_n.jpg)

Didn’t Rush Limbaugh call that one?
At one point Rush and Beck cheered cause Chicago didn't get the olympics. 
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on July 30, 2012, 11:48:05 am
not to mention a whole bunch of conservatives, I remember seeing a whole room of them cheering, thinking to myself "And they say liberals hate America".
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on July 30, 2012, 12:03:41 pm
i dunno i thought chicago was opposed to the idea seeing as  it costs money but we know the real reason they were cheering
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on July 30, 2012, 12:15:17 pm
Americans For Prosperity cheered for the Olympic loss, even that was too low for O'Reilly

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbEBaZQVoHs
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Veras on July 30, 2012, 12:25:06 pm
John Stewart's comment on this was "It's now official:  conservatives hate Obama more than they love America."
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on July 30, 2012, 06:53:25 pm
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/311556_504445109582758_100246018_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Kristine on July 31, 2012, 03:18:12 am
(http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/398949_474823742547084_2117646795_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Morgenleoht on July 31, 2012, 03:48:47 am
(http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/398949_474823742547084_2117646795_n.jpg)

We're fucked then!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: chad sexington on July 31, 2012, 05:00:12 am
Pretty much :(
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: N. De Plume on July 31, 2012, 06:59:37 am
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/251985_509419379083749_1107387687_n.jpg)

Didn’t Rush Limbaugh call that one?
At one point Rush and Beck cheered cause Chicago didn't get the olympics. 

Well, I was referring more to the whold “Hopes Obama Will Fail” line, actually.

Quite frankly, I have gotten the impression that the International Olympic Committee is a bunch of douchebags, especially with their Trademark and Brand Police. So I wouldn’t bee too enthused about being an Olympic Host anyway.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on July 31, 2012, 08:19:50 am
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m80cazVuBt1qbxkjao1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on July 31, 2012, 02:30:52 pm
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/217882_406179129441073_925187529_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Kristine on July 31, 2012, 10:38:27 pm
OMG!  I soooo want to find all those people who put up "the reason, for the season..." tripe at Christmas and lecture them for 20 minutes on this....

(http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/375722_4436799886776_75533609_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cataclysm on August 01, 2012, 12:31:15 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSOgxZ8lRUw

(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/599913_509475802403146_263300728_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Osama bin Bambi on August 01, 2012, 02:35:44 am
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/311556_504445109582758_100246018_n.jpg)

While I disagree with the TSA's infringement on our freedoms, I have never experienced a patdown as... aggressive as the one depicted in the comic. It's a swipe, not a grope. Only some airports have the body scanners, and even the ones that do don't screen all passengers all the time.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: SpaceProg on August 01, 2012, 04:21:52 pm
Hyperbole for effect.  The way of propaganda.  No matter which side you're on.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on August 01, 2012, 07:39:34 pm
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/427502_449255735097462_1279909016_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: largeham on August 01, 2012, 08:13:33 pm
Pfft, the American dream never existed.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: e13 on August 01, 2012, 08:49:27 pm
Pfft, the American dream never existed.
Dreams are forever. Reality... well, that's a different thing entirely.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Her3tiK on August 01, 2012, 10:26:02 pm
Pfft, the American dream never existed.
"It's called the American Dream cuz you have to be asleep to believe it" - George Carlin
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Kristine on August 02, 2012, 09:51:15 am
(http://img.allvoices.com/thumbs/image/609/609/94014564-americans-abroad.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: booley on August 02, 2012, 01:57:16 pm
not sure it counts as a cartoon or that everyone would agree but I think it's awesome
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/557040_485352031493043_321565221_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on August 04, 2012, 04:56:09 am
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lvcqhy669T1qdmg4po1_500.png)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: SpaceProg on August 04, 2012, 05:55:04 am
not sure it counts as a cartoon or that everyone would agree but I think it's awesome
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/557040_485352031493043_321565221_n.jpg)
Maddow rocks.  I find I agree with her on a lot of things.

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lvcqhy669T1qdmg4po1_500.png)

That cartoon gave me the sads. :(
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: The Right Honourable Mlle Antéchrist on August 04, 2012, 06:08:44 am
That cartoon gave me the sads. :(

Same :(
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Morgenleoht on August 04, 2012, 06:20:36 am
Sweet Jesus fuck...

...Lose one of the boys, the creepy dad, the cross, the beer, and a chunk of the mess, toss in any number of random domestic abuser arseholes, and replace the fork in the boy's hand with a knife and you have something that resembles a collage of my childhood and teenage years.

I wish I'd had awesome adopted gay parents instead of a promiscuous, drug-addicted, welfare-leeching, chain-smoking bitch of a mother. :(

...Uh, sorry for the TMI.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on August 04, 2012, 06:42:18 am
That cartoon gave me the sads. :(

Same :(

I'm sorry it did. It gave me the sads, too. It's a harsh reality, sadly. :(
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: The Right Honourable Mlle Antéchrist on August 04, 2012, 08:58:35 am
That cartoon gave me the sads. :(

Same :(

I'm sorry it did. It gave me the sads, too. It's a harsh reality, sadly. :(

Eh, the fact that it has that effect on people means it belongs in this thread, so there really isn't any need for you to apologize.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on August 04, 2012, 09:05:14 am
True enough.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Saturn500 on August 04, 2012, 09:24:01 am
Took me a while to figure out that the first couple was gay. And then I got an ultra-sad.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: e13 on August 04, 2012, 10:24:09 am
Yeah, I didn't realize they were gay until I noticed the "approved" note in the second image. I thought this was espousing the issue that gets me in that you have to achieve a level of perfection in home life and financial status to even be considered for adoption from a US adoption agency, but if two people have an accident, kid's theirs!

Now I am sad.  :(
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: SpaceProg on August 04, 2012, 01:26:48 pm
Needed to be seen, though in my opinion.  Good pic, Shep.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: e13 on August 04, 2012, 04:21:48 pm
Needed to be seen, though in my opinion.  Good pic, Shep.
All studies on parents I've seen say that two parents are better than one. I have never seen one show any proof that the gender or sexual orientation mattered. Kids just work better with more parents since they get more attention. No disrespect to single parents, intended. That's hard work.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: SpaceProg on August 04, 2012, 04:41:11 pm
Heck, my parents were two women.  My mother and my aunt.  My fa--I mean sperm donor-- decided that I wasn't his, even though my mother was a virgin before she got with him.  "It's not mine!," he said.  Useless deadbeat fuck-ass.   

EDIT:  Sorry if I killed the thread with my rant.  Heh...
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Thejebusfire on August 06, 2012, 05:16:52 pm
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m8cr0gmCur1r55d2io1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Kristine on August 07, 2012, 02:59:21 am
(http://img.allvoices.com/thumbs/image/609/609/94073306-average-american.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: SpaceProg on August 07, 2012, 12:11:07 pm
^^ Ditto, Mr. Average American. :)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Smurfette Principle on August 07, 2012, 03:47:24 pm
(http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m8ehdzyx5B1r6rtjh.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: KZN02 on August 07, 2012, 03:58:47 pm
(http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m8ehdzyx5B1r6rtjh.jpg)
I'd be curious to know what difference it would make if McCain had Romney as his VP.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Smurfette Principle on August 07, 2012, 04:12:18 pm
(http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m8ehdzyx5B1r6rtjh.jpg)
I'd be curious to know what difference it would make if McCain had Romney as his VP.

No Tea Party, McCain gets the racist vote and the rich dude vote, Obama still wins because the Republican Party at the time was at an all-time-low and no one wanted a repeat of Bush's eight years.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on August 07, 2012, 04:31:33 pm
I thought Palin was basically forced upon him by the religious right.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: ironbite on August 07, 2012, 04:44:35 pm
No by the Republican decision makers who were trying to capture the Hilary Vote.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: KZN02 on August 07, 2012, 07:45:56 pm
(http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m8ehdzyx5B1r6rtjh.jpg)
I'd be curious to know what difference it would make if McCain had Romney as his VP.

No Tea Party, McCain gets the racist vote and the rich dude vote, Obama still wins because the Republican Party at the time was at an all-time-low and no one wanted a repeat of Bush's eight years.
Can't tell if better or worse.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Smurfette Principle on August 07, 2012, 08:59:48 pm
(http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m8ehdzyx5B1r6rtjh.jpg)
I'd be curious to know what difference it would make if McCain had Romney as his VP.

No Tea Party, McCain gets the racist vote and the rich dude vote, Obama still wins because the Republican Party at the time was at an all-time-low and no one wanted a repeat of Bush's eight years.
Can't tell if better or worse.

Probably better (NO TEA PARTY), but one wonders if Romney money would have been enough to Swift Boat Obama.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on August 07, 2012, 11:35:47 pm
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/s480x480/255314_458347617529030_208421941_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Quasirodent on August 08, 2012, 05:00:38 pm
Okay so, I threw this together today, after getting the idea stuck in my tiny little brain.  If it sucks, I'll get rid of it.  If it's good... maybe I can get it to start spreading :D

(http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/s720x720/417325_427856527255574_1253100106_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on August 08, 2012, 06:25:47 pm
Hey, that looks pretty good to me ;D
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on August 08, 2012, 06:28:57 pm
I like it, it made me laugh.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Kristine on August 08, 2012, 07:09:08 pm
(http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/480016_353558351389909_1640263338_n.jpg)
(http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/405262_353516781394066_1465908776_n.jpg)
(http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/533261_353516618060749_1929025364_n.jpg)
(http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/546817_282239735188438_1201322032_n.jpg)
(http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/402937_345022402243504_1974926361_n.jpg)
(http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/556171_293756644036747_856376567_n.jpg)
(http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/580246_293755544036857_39011270_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: VirtualStranger on August 08, 2012, 07:22:00 pm
Okay so, I threw this together today, after getting the idea stuck in my tiny little brain.  If it sucks, I'll get rid of it.  If it's good... maybe I can get it to start spreading :D

(http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/s720x720/417325_427856527255574_1253100106_n.jpg)

Minor Nitpick: There is a bunch of unnecessary empty space between the embryo and the lines of text under it. It would look a bit better if you either:

A) Raised the bottom text and shorten the whole image.
Or
B) Lowered the embryo so that it's spaced equally between the top and bottom.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Quasirodent on August 08, 2012, 08:34:33 pm

Minor Nitpick: There is a bunch of unnecessary empty space between the embryo and the lines of text under it. It would look a bit better if you either:

A) Raised the bottom text and shorten the whole image.
Or
B) Lowered the embryo so that it's spaced equally between the top and bottom.

Oh that was very much on purpose.  The reason why the lower text is so far down - and so much smaller - is to emphasize how easy it is to miss vital information when you're not paying attention or you only look at the things that are pushed up top and in big font.  That sometimes you have to go looking for the important stuff. :)

Thank you for the critique - And to everyone else who responded :D
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on August 08, 2012, 10:06:03 pm
(http://boingboing.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/1100cbCOMIC-romney-tax-return.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cerim Treascair on August 08, 2012, 10:22:14 pm
... I may have to actually suggest some of those lines to a friend of mine that's doing original fic involving the Evil Overlord's List.  'Minion Expenses' is too priceless to pass up.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on August 09, 2012, 07:53:20 pm
(https://i.chzbgr.com/completestore/12/8/9/4RTCkHLjDkSrrj4jjAMNcw2.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on August 10, 2012, 02:49:09 pm
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/s480x480/189578_444276432279887_1285258192_n.jpg)

(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/s480x480/391294_488739664487613_1366902893_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Distind on August 10, 2012, 05:58:55 pm
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/s480x480/391294_488739664487613_1366902893_n.jpg)

If we could divert the funding to useful projects I'd be all for a 'liberation' of mars. Not like they can actually get anyone there.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: KZN02 on August 10, 2012, 06:04:25 pm
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/s480x480/391294_488739664487613_1366902893_n.jpg)

If we could divert the funding to useful projects I'd be all for a 'liberation' of mars. Not like they can actually get anyone there.
With the life discovered on Mars, is there any possibility of oil there?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Distind on August 10, 2012, 06:06:13 pm
With the life discovered on Mars, is there any possibility of oil there?

I thought NASA got hosed on that one, but if there were significant quantities it could be possible. I don't know about any decay timelines involved in fossil fuels though.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: KZN02 on August 10, 2012, 06:17:03 pm
With the life discovered on Mars, is there any possibility of oil there?

I thought NASA got hosed on that one, but if there were significant quantities it could be possible. I don't know about any decay timelines involved in fossil fuels though.
Maybe that will convince the government to start investing in the sciences and NASA again.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Smurfette Principle on August 10, 2012, 07:20:06 pm
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/s480x480/189578_444276432279887_1285258192_n.jpg)

Better:

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m8k7ohwF5n1rsbrsao1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on August 11, 2012, 12:32:57 am
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/s480x480/539262_508457052514280_1557593384_n.jpg)

(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/s480x480/551231_10151066790044404_1271305576_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lt. Fred on August 11, 2012, 01:06:43 am
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/s480x480/539262_508457052514280_1557593384_n.jpg)

Most of those aren't mysterious at all.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Kristine on August 11, 2012, 01:44:50 pm
(http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/551193_472632989414351_1604065109_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Kain on August 11, 2012, 02:00:03 pm
(http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/551193_472632989414351_1604065109_n.jpg)

I love how that's the 1337th reply in this thread. :D
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on August 11, 2012, 07:41:23 pm
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/403780_413486265360230_785546529_n.jpg)

(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/284933_483020181708753_1747353049_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: chad sexington on August 11, 2012, 11:32:42 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/lutJo.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on August 12, 2012, 12:06:56 am
(http://media.timesfreepress.com/img/photos/2012/08/10/120812_The_Revolt_t618.jpg?ba5b5b122dd3d37cc13d83e92a6a0ec0d5bfa32a)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: VirtualStranger on August 12, 2012, 12:20:08 am
I'm beginning to think that "Best Political Cartoons" is an oxymoron.

http://i.imgur.com/lutJo.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/lutJo.jpg)

Also, One summer is not evidence of a climate trend that occurs over the course of hundreds to thousands of years
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Smurfette Principle on August 12, 2012, 12:50:25 am
I'm beginning to think that "Best Political Cartoons" is an oxymoron.

http://i.imgur.com/lutJo.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/lutJo.jpg)

Also, One summer is not evidence of a climate trend that occurs over the course of hundreds to thousands of years

Yes, but it resonates with the same douchefucks who think that an especially cold winter refutes the science of climate change.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: chad sexington on August 12, 2012, 03:06:36 am
I'm beginning to think that "Best Political Cartoons" is an oxymoron.

http://i.imgur.com/lutJo.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/lutJo.jpg)

Also, One summer is not evidence of a climate trend that occurs over the course of hundreds to thousands of years

Yes, but it resonates with the same douchefucks who think that an especially cold winter refutes the science of climate change.

Am I going to have to break out the myriad "It's snowing in winter, therefore climate change is a hoax" cartoons?  Because we have an entire thread for those :P
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Alehksunos on August 12, 2012, 07:38:36 pm
Spoilered for size:
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on August 12, 2012, 11:51:11 pm
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/s480x480/527138_452434894777355_1445309149_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Alehksunos on August 13, 2012, 12:31:00 am
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/s480x480/527138_452434894777355_1445309149_n.jpg)
(http://cdn.unicornbooty.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/Marriage-According-to-the-Bible-.png)
I'm sure Dan Cathy is in favor of all of these.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Random Gal on August 13, 2012, 01:21:25 am
That argument is not going to defuse any Christian arguments. I've brought it up before and the response was always, "Those other forms of marriage existed only after the Fall, and while God allowed them, they were not ideal and always had negative effects. The only form of marriage God intended was ONE MAN ONE WOMAN because of Adam and Eve."
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cerim Treascair on August 13, 2012, 04:10:25 am
That argument is not going to defuse any Christian arguments. I've brought it up before and the response was always, "Those other forms of marriage existed only after the Fall, and while God allowed them, they were not ideal and always had negative effects. The only form of marriage God intended was ONE MAN ONE WOMAN because of Adam and Eve."

To which I answer:  "I don't see your deity smiting anybody over it.  Not much for omnipotence, is it?"
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on August 14, 2012, 08:00:39 am
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m8ptgeUKbt1qbxkjao1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: largeham on August 14, 2012, 09:14:05 am
I'm beginning to think that "Best Political Cartoons" is an oxymoron.

Depends on what you mean by best. From my experience it seems to be cartoons that the majority of the board agree with.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Veras on August 14, 2012, 10:41:27 am
I'm beginning to think that "Best Political Cartoons" is an oxymoron.

Depends on what you mean by best. From my experience it seems to be cartoons that the majority of the board agree with.

Obviously
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on August 14, 2012, 11:25:50 am
Didn't we go over this whole best cartoon vs ones that match with our opinions earlier on?? I swear we did.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Damen on August 14, 2012, 11:57:47 am
Also, One summer is not evidence of a climate trend that occurs over the course of hundreds to thousands of years

True. One record season is a blip on the charts. But when it's one in a long string (http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/) of record breaking temps on a record stretching back for over a hundred years then it's time to start thinking "You know, there might be some merit to this whole Global Warming idea..."
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on August 14, 2012, 12:04:42 pm
Also, One summer is not evidence of a climate trend that occurs over the course of hundreds to thousands of years

True. One record season is a blip on the charts. But when it's one in a long string (http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/) of record breaking temps on a record stretching back for over a hundred years then it's time to start thinking "You know, there might be some merit to this whole Global Warming idea..."
True also I think the whole term global warming is bull anyways where climate change fits better cause you see people say it's cold therefore it's not real when in reality warmer arctic temps can cause colder winters
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on August 14, 2012, 12:24:06 pm
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/409696_265400833570433_1763905533_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Veras on August 14, 2012, 12:31:42 pm
An actual (and hilarious) political cartoon from 1912.  Hidden due to size.

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on August 14, 2012, 02:39:27 pm
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/215665_419590794745485_1410819913_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Thejebusfire on August 14, 2012, 04:15:59 pm
I'm beginning to think that "Best Political Cartoons" is an oxymoron.

Depends on what you mean by best. From my experience it seems to be cartoons that the majority of the board agree with.

For me the best political cartoons are the ones that make a logical point without labeling everything.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: booley on August 14, 2012, 07:37:34 pm
with ryan being on the ticket, expect to hear a lot more about ayn rand.
(http://www.angryflower.com/atlass.gif)

Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: largeham on August 14, 2012, 07:41:43 pm
For me the best political cartoons are the ones that make a logical point without labeling everything.

Possibly, how often do you see such cartoons with a view point that forum members would disagree with.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: ironbite on August 14, 2012, 08:06:06 pm
For me the best political cartoons are the ones that make a logical point without labeling everything.

Possibly, how often do you see such cartoons with a view point that forum members would disagree with.

You're really gonna go there?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: largeham on August 14, 2012, 08:13:45 pm
For me the best political cartoons are the ones that make a logical point without labeling everything.

Possibly, how often do you see such cartoons with a view point that forum members would disagree with.

You're really gonna go there?

Go where? I believe I made a legitimate point.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on August 14, 2012, 08:21:00 pm
I'll give $50 to anyone who can find a conservative political cartoon that doesn't translate into Obama=SOCIALIST MONSTER FROM HELL, or anything that may not come across as the pot calling the kettle black.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Kristine on August 14, 2012, 09:06:42 pm
(http://media.dcentertainment.com/sites/default/files/MAD-Magazine-Mitt-Romney-Bumper-Stickers.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: ironbite on August 14, 2012, 09:13:36 pm
For me the best political cartoons are the ones that make a logical point without labeling everything.

Possibly, how often do you see such cartoons with a view point that forum members would disagree with.

You're really gonna go there?

Go where? I believe I made a legitimate point.

K money where your mouth is.  Find us a right-wing political cartoon that doesn't paint Obama as some scary boogyman.

Ironbite-the die, as they say, has been cast.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Kristine on August 14, 2012, 10:53:39 pm
HERE is my cartoon...
(http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/297352_10150999657136275_1179389151_n.jpg)

Go where? I believe I made a legitimate point.
K money where your mouth is.  Find us a right-wing political cartoon that doesn't paint Obama as some scary boogyman.

Ironbite-the die, as they say, has been cast.
okay here are 3
(http://img.allvoices.com/thumbs/image/609/609/94117184-no-intelligent-life-on-mars.jpg) - this one calls his followers stupid
(http://img.allvoices.com/thumbs/image/609/609/94126165-dirty-politics.jpg) - obnoxious but Not a boogyman
(http://img.allvoices.com/thumbs/image/609/609/94122845-campaign-lies.jpg) - pointing out a perceived hypocrisy
I do not agree with the above cartoons but they are right wing and do not paint Obama as a boogyman.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on August 14, 2012, 11:18:24 pm
In a earlier post I said this:
I'll give $50 to anyone who can find a conservative political cartoon that doesn't translate into Obama=SOCIALIST MONSTER FROM HELL, or anything that may not come across as the pot calling the kettle black.

Here's the $50
(http://www.monopoly-man.com/money/monopoly-money.jpg)
I never said anything about it being real...
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: KZN02 on August 14, 2012, 11:44:51 pm
(http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/480027_437320609653991_1059489756_n.jpg)

I'd hate to see who's Giovanni.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on August 14, 2012, 11:46:47 pm
Grover Norquist
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Kristine on August 15, 2012, 01:06:25 am
In a earlier post I said this:
I'll give $50 to anyone who can find a conservative political cartoon that doesn't translate into Obama=SOCIALIST MONSTER FROM HELL, or anything that may not come across as the pot calling the kettle black.
Here's the $50
(http://www.monopoly-man.com/money/monopoly-money.jpg)
I never said anything about it being real...
Ha HAAA - I can now buy 50 internets - as soon as they go on sale for a dollar a piece...

(http://img.allvoices.com/thumbs/image/609/609/93994725-drought.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RavynousHunter on August 15, 2012, 01:47:49 am
Okay, I have to ask, because I'm a moron, but...where the hell did the "Don't Tread On Me" snake thing come from?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Veras on August 15, 2012, 02:29:08 am
It was a symbol used by the patriots during the American Revolution.  Ben Franklin created the image below during the French and Indian War (Seven Years War, if you're not in the States) to urge the colonies to stick together.  Each section of the snake represents one of the thirteen colonies.  The serpent became a symbol of the colonies, and it grew from there.

(http://cdn.dipity.com/uploads/events/cb85664ecc7b88de46f10a083e179353_1M.png)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: SpaceProg on August 15, 2012, 02:40:11 am
Where's GA?  ;_;
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on August 15, 2012, 03:06:17 am
I am unsure if they were involved with the French and Indian War
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: SpaceProg on August 15, 2012, 03:21:38 am
Me too...  I know there was a version with GA in it, but I don't know when it came around.  History buffs?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lt. Fred on August 15, 2012, 03:38:44 am
I am unsure if they were involved with the French and Indian War

According to wiki they technically were, though there was no fighting in Georgia. Apparently there was some concern about a Spanish invasion from Florida, or using it as a base for a naval descent- speaking as a Total Warrior, I've done that more than a few times.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on August 15, 2012, 03:40:32 am
Thanks.
Well that explains it then
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: chad sexington on August 15, 2012, 03:50:53 am
An actual (and hilarious) political cartoon from 1912.  Hidden due to size.

(click to show/hide)

That is the greatest political cartoon I have ever seen :D
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: SpaceProg on August 15, 2012, 03:52:14 am
Hmmmm

We meant well.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Veras on August 15, 2012, 11:44:40 pm
Where's GA?  ;_;

I had never noticed that before.  Delaware is missing too.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Smurfette Principle on August 15, 2012, 11:53:28 pm
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m8tqvxkiJR1qagxppo1_500.gif)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Meshakhad on August 16, 2012, 03:48:00 am
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m8tqvxkiJR1qagxppo1_500.gif)

Wait, does Paul Ryan actually want to criminalize IVF?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Deus ex Populo on August 16, 2012, 09:07:15 am
Wait, does Paul Ryan actually want to criminalize IVF?

It's based on a reading of one of the bills he sponsored, HR 212 or the "Sancitiy of Human Life Act" (http://www.opencongress.org/bill/112-h212/text), which defines the beginning of human life as fertilisation of the egg. In IVF, only a few of the embryos created are actually transferred into the woman IIRC; the rest may be discarded if they are not donated to others, thus running afoul of the bill's provisions.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on August 16, 2012, 10:19:36 am
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m8u1niw6EE1romm05o1_500.png)
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m8u1niw6EE1romm05o2_500.jpg)
(http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m8uti9cosJ1ru3ppw.jpg)

...I'm done.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on August 16, 2012, 12:57:59 pm
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/483915_401972386533498_1388577644_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on August 17, 2012, 01:09:54 pm
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/185560_475672329110417_1596892316_n.jpg)

That's no pit...
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Kristine on August 17, 2012, 01:38:00 pm
(http://img.allvoices.com/thumbs/image/609/609/94211220-how-not-to-extradite-julian-assange.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Deus ex Populo on August 19, 2012, 07:37:56 pm
(http://media.theweek.com/img/dir_0081/40636_cartoon_main/taking-a-bite-out-of-sound.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cataclysm on August 20, 2012, 03:55:26 pm
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/578678_515022218513699_1680233520_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Kristine on August 21, 2012, 02:05:45 pm
(http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/409735_358989397513471_205472447_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Sixth Monarchist on August 21, 2012, 04:13:40 pm
(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2012/8/20/1345497324291/Martin-Rowson-cartoon-21.-002.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on August 21, 2012, 05:48:49 pm
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/264652_458694580819914_1029184117_n.jpg)

(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/486610_10151116626424609_2043502107_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Quasirodent on August 21, 2012, 08:40:43 pm
Relevant^
(http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/s480x480/221941_495941517101896_902394160_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on August 21, 2012, 10:18:41 pm
I love the GOP's explaination of my lady parts...lol
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Kristine on August 22, 2012, 02:12:21 am
I love the GOP's explaination of my lady parts...lol
I didn't know I even had Chaff countermeasures... I wonder if I could deploy those at will...
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cataclysm on August 22, 2012, 09:56:50 pm
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/424676_410953868969034_553124368_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Kristine on August 23, 2012, 10:52:14 pm
(http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/217969_462876083742850_612859004_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on August 23, 2012, 11:05:05 pm
The "Fox News" being photoshopped in (twice no less) was a bit unnecessary for that picture.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on August 24, 2012, 12:33:44 am
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/558331_360334797379875_2066168970_n.jpg)

(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/s480x480/574957_398734890192329_1901344903_n.jpg)

(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/s480x480/260527_405948556136246_714174877_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: chad sexington on August 24, 2012, 04:12:28 am
(http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/217969_462876083742850_612859004_n.jpg)

Hey, it's ASS: The Movie!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cataclysm on August 26, 2012, 02:09:32 pm
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/580134_461209957246191_1370625318_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on August 26, 2012, 02:27:19 pm
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/s480x480/561893_455071487848327_551867425_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cataclysm on August 26, 2012, 02:43:03 pm
Well Beck is a mormon...
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Osama bin Bambi on August 27, 2012, 02:03:25 am
(http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/480525_393850344002925_1669059875_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: erictheblue on August 27, 2012, 06:30:30 am
(http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/480525_393850344002925_1669059875_n.jpg)

Ignore the tears. They are only tears of joy. That was one of the most beautiful things I have seen
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cataclysm on August 27, 2012, 05:22:40 pm
I'm not sure if lice get pregnant.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on August 27, 2012, 05:42:11 pm
I'm not sure if lice get pregnant.
They lay eggs I think. 
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: starseeker on August 27, 2012, 06:25:30 pm
I'm not sure if lice get pregnant.
They lay eggs I think.
Headlice certainly do.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on August 27, 2012, 09:47:38 pm
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/s480x480/303590_10152055108890710_578625193_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on August 27, 2012, 09:53:12 pm
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/s480x480/303590_10152055108890710_578625193_n.jpg)
History geek hat on Darwin was not around in medieval times and I don't think the word feminist was invented.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: KZN02 on August 27, 2012, 10:01:43 pm
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/s480x480/303590_10152055108890710_578625193_n.jpg)
History geek hat on Darwin was not around in medieval times and I don't think the word feminist was invented.
Probably replace Darwin with Astronomy.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on August 27, 2012, 10:02:13 pm
I think the cartoon is saying that the GOP is bringing us back to medieval times by rejecting them, I'm sure the person who drew the cartoon knows that Darwin wasn't around, neither was the word feminist.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Kristine on August 28, 2012, 11:13:44 am
(http://img.allvoices.com/thumbs/image/609/609/94292694-gop-alley.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cataclysm on August 28, 2012, 01:52:53 pm
This is becoming a trend.

(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/424596_4237647895690_341835146_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Saturn500 on August 28, 2012, 06:09:09 pm
I'm having trouble finding those last two funny. Kristine's is disturbing, and Lexikon's just tells us what we already know, and nothing else.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on August 28, 2012, 07:44:57 pm
Political cartoons have to be funny?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cataclysm on August 28, 2012, 11:48:41 pm
I'm having trouble finding those last two funny. Kristine's is disturbing, and Lexikon's just tells us what we already know, and nothing else.

Because woolly mammoth.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Kristine on August 29, 2012, 12:26:34 am
(http://img.allvoices.com/thumbs/image/609/609/94249090-political-poker.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on August 29, 2012, 10:19:37 pm
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/s480x480/304808_10152047286290551_1328269135_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lt. Fred on August 29, 2012, 11:22:11 pm
I know this point is somewhat hackneyed, but since when was Jesus white?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RavynousHunter on August 29, 2012, 11:28:51 pm
I know this point is somewhat hackneyed, but since when was Jesus white?

If I had to hazard a guess, I'd say somewhere around the Crusades.  Least, it'd make sense to me as a propaganda tool.  The last thing you want your soldiers thinking is that their primary religious figure was of the culture you're actively trying to destroy.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on August 30, 2012, 12:30:03 am
I know this point is somewhat hackneyed, but since when was Jesus white?

If I had to hazard a guess, I'd say somewhere around the Crusades.  Least, it'd make sense to me as a propaganda tool.  The last thing you want your soldiers thinking is that their primary religious figure was of the culture you're actively trying to destroy.
Jesus is whatever color the people who live there are.  No really look at Our Lady of Guadalupe and in Japan Mary is a Geisha
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Kristine on August 30, 2012, 12:38:51 am
(http://img.allvoices.com/thumbs/image/609/609/94247397-gop-convention.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Smurfette Principle on August 30, 2012, 12:09:03 pm
Linked for size. (http://boingboing.net/2012/08/29/tom-the-dancing-bug-great-mom.html)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Kristine on August 30, 2012, 09:38:50 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/9Rp8b.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on August 30, 2012, 10:20:42 pm
Linked for size. (http://boingboing.net/2012/08/29/tom-the-dancing-bug-great-mom.html)

I fucking love Tom the Dancing Bug.

(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/s480x480/403997_481067285251862_1713874428_n.jpg)

(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/255414_357977067609699_1307365146_n.jpg)

(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/s480x480/556505_357977277609678_1871680509_n.jpg)

Now I'm a bit sick of the whole Romney and his dog thing, but I'm a fan of this guy's(Ward Sutton) work.

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m9ewzqRC9I1qad0yco1_250.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cataclysm on August 31, 2012, 04:36:47 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wJllpdFFvw
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: chad sexington on August 31, 2012, 09:47:03 pm
(http://brunich.com/jF3-1yOqTBGWlMX2nwwUdQ.jpeg)

(http://i.imgur.com/Bzq0R.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on August 31, 2012, 09:55:51 pm
(http://brunich.com/jF3-1yOqTBGWlMX2nwwUdQ.jpeg)


Holy fucking shit, that is creepy!!! This needs to go in the disturbing images thread
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Yla on September 03, 2012, 06:39:27 am
Questionable Content (http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=2266):
(spoilered for size)
(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Veras on September 03, 2012, 11:44:36 am
That is the most cynical and politically aware bird that I have ever seen.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: ironbite on September 03, 2012, 12:08:29 pm
Yeah Yelling Bird is like that.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Kristine on September 03, 2012, 02:02:19 pm
(http://img.allvoices.com/thumbs/image/609/609/94394584-rnc-we-built-it.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Thejebusfire on September 03, 2012, 05:57:49 pm
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lzppvuANVk1r63hf8o1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on September 03, 2012, 06:04:20 pm
I think between this thread and the other, we just got an omnibingo.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Smilodon on September 03, 2012, 06:41:39 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/cKJzF.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: chad sexington on September 06, 2012, 10:12:48 am
(http://i.imgur.com/XwDu6.jpg)
Look at that little tinbot Mitt!  :3
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Veras on September 06, 2012, 10:45:33 am
The back of the beer cozy probably says "Obama Wants to Destroy Medicare"
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on September 06, 2012, 11:44:24 am
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/399722_422422411126777_1514745557_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: KZN02 on September 06, 2012, 01:58:44 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/XwDu6.jpg)
Look at that little tinbot Mitt!  :3
No mittens or flip flops?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Thejebusfire on September 07, 2012, 01:41:46 pm
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m9j09i0w7n1qh021co1_400.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: The Right Honourable Mlle Antéchrist on September 07, 2012, 01:43:28 pm
^ Love it. Not too heavy handed, but not too subtle to get the message across.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Smurfette Principle on September 08, 2012, 07:16:39 pm
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m9w4hhx04F1ryg9q7o1_500.jpg)

In the style of this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qc7HmhrgTuQ).
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on September 08, 2012, 07:20:32 pm
I love how they're referencing his freak out with the mug saying "Do It Live"...lol
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Random Gal on September 09, 2012, 11:48:57 am
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-PKm55MPYU3k/Tys6QJF8U1I/AAAAAAAAAxk/KNWDwI6m67w/s1600/dumbya.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cataclysm on September 09, 2012, 01:13:36 pm
Well, Bush and congress.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Kristine on September 09, 2012, 02:13:32 pm
(http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/304443_429236977114200_181885850_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on September 09, 2012, 05:47:13 pm
(http://m.static.newsvine.com/servista/imagesizer?file=cagle1E9ABABA-56C6-7C74-4EF6-475CBA57C376.jpg&width=600)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Veras on September 10, 2012, 02:46:52 pm
Here are a few takes on the world according to the United States.

(http://interculturalmeanderings.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/the-world-according-to-america-2.png)

(http://interculturalmeanderings.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/map-of-the-world-according-to-americans.jpg)

(http://strangemaps.files.wordpress.com/2006/11/800px-reagan-digitised-poster.JPG)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Yla on September 10, 2012, 06:44:30 pm
Here are a few takes on the world according to the United States.
[The World according to Americans]
(http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/world_according_to_americans_large.png)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cataclysm on September 10, 2012, 09:22:52 pm
i can't tell if the African comment is supposed to be sarcastic, or if the person is genuinely disappointed in not knowing the continent well.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: TigerHunter on September 10, 2012, 09:31:49 pm
i can't tell if the African comment is supposed to be sarcastic, or if the person is genuinely disappointed in not knowing the continent well.
I think he's genuinely disappointed.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Kit Walker on September 10, 2012, 09:53:11 pm
i can't tell if the African comment is supposed to be sarcastic, or if the person is genuinely disappointed in not knowing the continent well.

It's an XKCD cartoon. If a character is expressing disappointment in not having some knowledge, chances are they're genuine. In this case, there's a solid chance that its the actual thought(s) of Randall Munroe being expressed.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Veras on September 11, 2012, 12:54:58 am
Here are a few takes on the world according to the United States.
[The World according to Americans]
(http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/world_according_to_americans_large.png)

That's pretty damn good.  I love the comment about the Peters Projection for Greenland.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Kristine on September 13, 2012, 01:33:39 am
(http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/376886_465794610118473_241728753_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: SpaceProg on September 13, 2012, 03:56:06 am
The only projection I think really does justice is a globe... but... you all knew that.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Random Gal on September 13, 2012, 12:47:00 pm
The only projection I think really does justice is a globe... but... you all knew that.

Yes, you're very clever. (http://xkcd.com/977/)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: SpaceProg on September 13, 2012, 04:29:49 pm
The only projection I think really does justice is a globe... but... you all knew that.

Yes, you're very clever. (http://xkcd.com/977/)

:D
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cataclysm on September 13, 2012, 04:51:08 pm
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/557047_480876591930660_1175659761_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Kristine on September 13, 2012, 11:24:14 pm
(http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/601396_487594424584874_845624810_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Yla on September 14, 2012, 04:55:58 am
(http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/376886_465794610118473_241728753_n.jpg)
This one leads itself to misuse easily. There's maintaining a extant serious political discussion, and there's pushing politics into any unrelated situation.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Rabbit of Caerbannog on September 15, 2012, 11:14:47 am
(http://www.commondreams.org/sites/commondreams.org/files/imce-images/slam_engleb20120913_low.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on September 15, 2012, 10:46:39 pm
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/260009_473435236010826_744584140_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: SpaceProg on September 15, 2012, 10:52:14 pm
Leeches can be very medically beneficial. 


I get the joke, though.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Damen on September 16, 2012, 05:05:51 am
Interestingly, leeches are still being used in medicine even today.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on September 18, 2012, 05:49:22 pm
Not a cartoon per say, but pretty funny...
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/s480x480/390567_527284050631580_658966054_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Osama bin Bambi on September 18, 2012, 07:47:33 pm
(http://freethoughtblogs.com/lousycanuck/files/2011/10/ows-brother.jpg)

:(
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on September 18, 2012, 08:05:08 pm
I'm having a hard time understanding what's going on in that photo.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: TheL on September 18, 2012, 08:51:04 pm
Not a cartoon per say, but pretty funny...
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/s480x480/390567_527284050631580_658966054_n.jpg)

...Per se.  It's Latin.

And yeah, that's hilarious.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Auri-El on September 18, 2012, 10:06:43 pm
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/533671_527344367292215_1750623804_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cataclysm on September 19, 2012, 02:14:19 am
I'm having a hard time understanding what's going on in that photo.

OWS police brutality?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on September 19, 2012, 02:44:31 am
I'm having a hard time understanding what's going on in that photo.

OWS police brutality?

I was thinking that, but again, it's really hard to tell what's going on.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Damen on September 19, 2012, 04:06:44 am
I'm having a hard time understanding what's going on in that photo.

That's a photo of Scott Olsen (http://rt.com/usa/news/police-occupy-oakland-olsen-831/), a Marine Vet with two tours of Iraq to his name and member of Occupy Oakland who was hit in the head with a gas grenade lobbed by police during a protest march last year. He was hospitalized and in serious condition for a long while but he pulled through, though he's had to undergo a lot of rehab for his injuries.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on September 19, 2012, 06:53:51 pm
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/s480x480/408546_10151065672331275_1230749745_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: KZN02 on September 19, 2012, 10:26:14 pm
In my opinion, they should have removed stars from the flag itself for the same effect.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on September 20, 2012, 12:21:00 am
(http://media.timesfreepress.com/img/photos/2012/09/19/120920_Etch_A_Sketch_t618.jpg?ba5b5b122dd3d37cc13d83e92a6a0ec0d5bfa32a)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cataclysm on September 20, 2012, 12:38:51 am
In my opinion, they should have removed stars from the flag itself for the same effect.

47 is an odd number. Should they have removed 1/2 a star? They represent states and not the people anyways.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on September 23, 2012, 08:29:44 am
I'm having a lot of trouble posting a picture.  How do I do it?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Distind on September 23, 2012, 09:00:10 am
Code: [Select]
[img]IMGURL[/IMG]
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on September 23, 2012, 11:02:43 am
Thanks.

(http://zzx_118811_600)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on September 23, 2012, 11:06:40 am
Dammit, it's not showing up!  >:(  Am I doing something wrong?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: TigerHunter on September 23, 2012, 11:26:35 am
Dammit, it's not showing up!  >:(  Am I doing something wrong?
Yes. http://zzx_118811_600 is not a valid url.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: armandtanzarian on September 23, 2012, 11:31:32 am
If you're trying to get a picture off your computer, you need to host it first at an image hosting site (like http://imgur.com/), upload it, then link that URL.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on September 23, 2012, 12:15:04 pm
Thank you

(http://i.imgur.com/k0FnJ.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Kristine on September 23, 2012, 03:29:51 pm
(http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/261938_491870397490610_1084755134_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Smurfette Principle on September 28, 2012, 03:04:22 pm
Don't know about good, but it is pretty fucking badass (linked for size):

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mav6x8OK001qzkrfxo1_1280.jpg (http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mav6x8OK001qzkrfxo1_1280.jpg)

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mav6x8OK001qzkrfxo2_1280.jpg (http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mav6x8OK001qzkrfxo2_1280.jpg)

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mav6x8OK001qzkrfxo3_1280.jpg (http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mav6x8OK001qzkrfxo3_1280.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Saturn500 on September 28, 2012, 03:39:45 pm
(http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/261938_491870397490610_1084755134_n.jpg)

YYYYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on September 28, 2012, 04:01:58 pm
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mav6x8OK001qzkrfxo3_1280.jpg (http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mav6x8OK001qzkrfxo3_1280.jpg)

That's possibly the most awesome lightsaber hilt ever, classy as fuck. Count Dooku, Ventress and Palpatine are now jelly.  :D
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: MadCatTLX on September 28, 2012, 06:08:48 pm
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mav6x8OK001qzkrfxo1_1280.jpg (http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mav6x8OK001qzkrfxo1_1280.jpg)

His face looks a bit like the Me Gusta face.

(http://i2.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/002/252/me-gusta.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: KZN02 on September 28, 2012, 07:56:12 pm
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mav6x8OK001qzkrfxo1_1280.jpg (http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mav6x8OK001qzkrfxo1_1280.jpg)

His face looks a bit like the Me Gusta face.

(http://i2.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/002/252/me-gusta.jpg)
Don't you mean the Not Bad face?
(http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/138/246/tumblr_lltzgnHi5F1qzib3wo1_400.jpg)?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Kristine on October 02, 2012, 11:58:53 pm
(http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/559468_495252603819056_1670232243_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Kristine on October 03, 2012, 10:02:58 am
(http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/545617_532633860097164_1518327022_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Yla on October 03, 2012, 11:10:15 am
Don't know about good, but it is pretty fucking badass (linked for size):

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mav6x8OK001qzkrfxo1_1280.jpg (http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mav6x8OK001qzkrfxo1_1280.jpg)

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mav6x8OK001qzkrfxo2_1280.jpg (http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mav6x8OK001qzkrfxo2_1280.jpg)

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mav6x8OK001qzkrfxo3_1280.jpg (http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mav6x8OK001qzkrfxo3_1280.jpg)
Not as badass as this one (from 2008, but still):
http://randomactsofshark.blogspot.it/2008/11/table-of-contents.html (http://randomactsofshark.blogspot.it/2008/11/table-of-contents.html)
Quote
Obama laid one shovel-sized palm upon the quaking creature’s forehead and, with infinite compassion on his face, brought his fingers together. “Civic responsibility begins with personal responsibility,” he explained, with brains still dripping from his clenched fist.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Thejebusfire on October 03, 2012, 09:43:11 pm
Don't know about good, but it is pretty fucking badass (linked for size):

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mav6x8OK001qzkrfxo1_1280.jpg (http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mav6x8OK001qzkrfxo1_1280.jpg)

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mav6x8OK001qzkrfxo2_1280.jpg (http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mav6x8OK001qzkrfxo2_1280.jpg)

Would that be his presidental painting?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Veras on October 04, 2012, 01:33:23 pm
This was on the Colbert Report's Facebook.

(http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/431719_10151094200516939_1959292760_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: KZN02 on October 05, 2012, 08:27:21 pm
Someone who I watch on DeviantArt made this:

(http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2012/279/f/d/fdfc83247cd3469544ed11c436fe6a61-d5gycdh.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Kristine on October 06, 2012, 02:18:03 pm
(http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/s600x600/2879_229851653809971_499470633_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on October 07, 2012, 12:48:47 pm
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/s480x480/317653_430407437006524_553860350_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on October 07, 2012, 03:37:56 pm
Sadly, I can see several things go wrong with that.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Kristine on October 07, 2012, 04:35:48 pm
(http://img.allvoices.com/thumbs/image/609/609/94908415-romney-and-pbs.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: chad sexington on October 07, 2012, 10:19:22 pm
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/s480x480/317653_430407437006524_553860350_n.jpg)

No, Honey Badger!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: MadCatTLX on October 07, 2012, 10:40:19 pm
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/s480x480/317653_430407437006524_553860350_n.jpg)

No, Honey Badger!

I was thinking the same thing...

Honey badgers are badasses.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4r7wHMg5Yjg
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cataclysm on October 07, 2012, 11:30:46 pm
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/s480x480/317653_430407437006524_553860350_n.jpg)

That is not the symbol of the Tea Party. That is the Gadsden flag.

This should be the symbol of the tea party

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Thejebusfire on October 07, 2012, 11:56:01 pm
Oh come now, the Hatter's mad not a dumbass.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Kristine on October 08, 2012, 12:22:15 am
(http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/580236_497699930240990_1112092986_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: KZN02 on October 08, 2012, 12:38:42 pm
(https://i.chzbgr.com/completestore/12/10/4/9GSmNMYtcEeq8yQlAE1_Ow2.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Thejebusfire on October 10, 2012, 09:17:29 pm
Not a cartoon, but still relevant:

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mbnjwyffG01rt8sgdo1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Kristine on October 14, 2012, 02:36:33 pm
(http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/553627_410800462307846_1246821081_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: The Prophet Mohammed (PBUM) on October 15, 2012, 04:49:12 pm
(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2012/10/14/1350234904441/Martin-Rowson-13.10.2012-003.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: chad sexington on October 15, 2012, 09:00:16 pm
Oh, Rowson (http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h32/chanubi/common/aww.gif)

New Kelly!
(http://i.imgur.com/hsqh8.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Her3tiK on October 15, 2012, 09:03:58 pm
Oh, Rowson (http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h32/chanubi/common/aww.gif)

New Kelly!
(click to show/hide)
I don't get it...
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Igor on October 15, 2012, 09:11:17 pm
(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2012/10/14/1350234904441/Martin-Rowson-13.10.2012-003.jpg)
...what am I looking at?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: chad sexington on October 15, 2012, 09:14:11 pm
I assume it's to do with the Jimmy Savile pedo-scandal?  I don't recognise half the characters, though :(
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: starseeker on October 16, 2012, 08:13:51 am
I assume it's to do with the Jimmy Savile pedo-scandal?  I don't recognise half the characters, though :(

I recognise Thatcher, Cameron, Theresa May?, George Osbourne and Saville, think all bar Saville are tory politicians.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: VirtualStranger on October 16, 2012, 01:15:59 pm
The DNC made a new website making fun of Romney's non-existent tax plan details.

http://www.romneytaxplan.com/
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Her3tiK on October 16, 2012, 01:42:53 pm
And it is so brilliant.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on October 16, 2012, 02:54:37 pm
The DNC made a new website making fun of Romney's non-existent tax plan details.

http://www.romneytaxplan.com/

Ok, that was funny.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Saturn500 on October 16, 2012, 04:19:46 pm
I've managed to click the button.

Still nothing.

BRILLIANT!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Veras on October 16, 2012, 04:52:03 pm
Modifying the slogan was also good

Believe in America
              ^half of
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Morgenleoht on October 16, 2012, 08:09:05 pm
Oh, Rowson (http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h32/chanubi/common/aww.gif)

New Kelly!
(click to show/hide)
I don't get it...

Her3tik, it's implying that the way women dress drives men to assault them.

*barfs at the thought*
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Her3tiK on October 16, 2012, 08:18:37 pm
Oh, Rowson (http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h32/chanubi/common/aww.gif)

New Kelly!
(click to show/hide)
I don't get it...

Her3tik, it's implying that the way women dress drives men to assault them.

*barfs at the thought*
I kinda figured. But why's it in the 'best' thread? Cuz it's over the top (even for a political cartoon)?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on October 16, 2012, 08:20:16 pm
Kelly is from the onion. So it's satire.

Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Morgenleoht on October 16, 2012, 08:20:37 pm
Oh, Rowson (http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h32/chanubi/common/aww.gif)

New Kelly!
(click to show/hide)
I don't get it...

Her3tik, it's implying that the way women dress drives men to assault them.

*barfs at the thought*
I kinda figured. But why's it in the 'best' thread? Cuz it's over the top (even for a political cartoon)?

Stuffed if I know. Perhaps because it makes its point in a way that even the dimmest idiot couldn't miss it?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Saturn500 on October 16, 2012, 08:27:59 pm
As davedan said, it's from The Onion. Everything from The Onion is satire.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on October 16, 2012, 08:58:33 pm
We should merge the best/worse political cartoons anyway. If it is a rubbish cartoon and I agree with the politics it should still be a worse cartoon. If it is a good cartoon (funny, well drawn) but I disagree with the politics it should still be a best cartoon.

Anything by Dees is a best cartoon.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: chad sexington on October 17, 2012, 03:13:40 am
Anything by Dees is a best cartoon.

Agreed.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cataclysm on October 17, 2012, 10:07:23 am
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/302105_514612851884819_1518753282_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Veras on October 17, 2012, 01:59:59 pm
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Qie8h_i9EQI/UG4hNXeQh6I/AAAAAAAAAiU/jW8-DbWd_m4/s400/Mitt+Romney+Meme.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on October 17, 2012, 11:20:51 pm
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/s480x480/577259_480065845361235_827643456_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Smurfette Principle on October 21, 2012, 03:32:57 am
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m8lmt9eC5X1qe38tmo1_1280.jpg)
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m8lmt9eC5X1qe38tmo2_1280.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RavynousHunter on October 21, 2012, 03:59:50 am
[snip]

AKA: Shit we already knew and/or suspected.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Kristine on October 21, 2012, 12:29:47 pm
(http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/60359_512884988731446_160590287_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on October 21, 2012, 01:28:58 pm
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/182520_440595749311460_393153761_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Vypernight on October 21, 2012, 04:04:13 pm
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m8lmt9eC5X1qe38tmo1_1280.jpg)
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m8lmt9eC5X1qe38tmo2_1280.jpg)

I'd love to post this on my Facebook page, but are there links to back up the info on it?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cataclysm on October 21, 2012, 04:52:04 pm
Not a cartoon but...
(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: TigerHunter on October 21, 2012, 06:12:43 pm
Not a cartoon but...
(click to show/hide)
Humpty Romney sat on a wall
Humpty Romney had a great fall
All the Koch's money, and all of Fox' lies
Couldn't get Romney's polls to rise
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Veras on October 22, 2012, 01:13:11 pm
My school offers a Visual Culture class.  They discuss some aspect of graphic design in culture, and do art projects relating to that topic.  Recently they did a unit on propaganda.  The was what one of the students did (I got her permission before posting it).

(http://i.imgur.com/BqBk0.png)

She wanted to draw him eating a bowl of Unicorn Flakes, but didn't feel that she could pull it off artistically.

I had this girl for World History last year.  On the final, I had them write an essay on what three people or events in history that they would like to meet/see.  They had to describe who/what they chose and why it is significant  The third person she chose was Phyllis Schafly.  The reasons she gave were to figure out what was wrong with her and make sure that she never gives birth to Andy Schafly, so that Conservapedia never comes into existence.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: QueenofHearts on October 22, 2012, 01:26:31 pm
You should talk her into coming to FSTDT once in a while after she graduates*, she sounds intelligent for her age.

*so there's no conflict of interest with you being her teacher and all.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Veras on October 22, 2012, 01:36:07 pm
She's also my sister-in-law, so I doubt that it would be any more of a conflict of interest than that is.  And she is very intelligent for her age.  All of my students are, it's a school for gifted kids.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Kristine on October 22, 2012, 09:08:54 pm
not a cartoon - but still
(http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/530731_544181735608478_1916666986_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Veras on October 23, 2012, 05:10:52 pm
After the horses and bayonets line, the Obama campaign launched a website.

http://cavalrymenforromney.com/ (http://cavalrymenforromney.com/)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Damen on October 24, 2012, 09:09:37 pm
(http://www.morethings.com/images/ann_coulter/evil/lk_coluter_350.jpg)

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_3AnX0CJjpKc/TROYjhz_WxI/AAAAAAAAAZQ/o4JprGG47cs/s1600/Michelle_Malkin_Reptiloid.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: ThunderWulf on October 24, 2012, 11:27:22 pm
(http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/378996_456192087757977_149677972_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Smurfette Principle on October 24, 2012, 11:46:13 pm
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mcdofwI1bn1rj8amio1_500.jpg)

I thought it was funny.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RinellaWasHere on October 25, 2012, 12:04:29 am
I do too.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Kit Walker on October 25, 2012, 12:10:54 am
I don't, because I don't like comparing Romney to the world destroying, city shrinking super villain that is Brainiac.

Brainiac is highly consistent in his desire to absorb all knowledge and eliminate all other life, and has a concrete plan on how to do it.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RinellaWasHere on October 25, 2012, 12:26:06 am
A FUCK YEAH FOR YOU GOOD SIR
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cataclysm on October 25, 2012, 10:40:18 am
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/559385_487963847904927_775652458_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Sylvana on October 26, 2012, 04:34:09 am
Have one from South Africa.

(http://jerm.co.za/images/2012/09/jerm-zuma-united-nations-womens-rights.jpg)\

Quote from: Cartoonist
Question: which bit did the president really say?

Answer: all of it.

The first part he said this week, and the Animal Farm second part he said last week. I didn’t even write this cartoon.
In the same vein
(http://www.zapiro.com/Cartoons/m_120916st.jpg)

Both of these are in response to what the president really said, in parliament. Article. (http://www.timeslive.co.za/politics/2012/09/13/you-have-less-rights-because-you-re-a-minority-zuma)

Another one that I felt was powerful.
(http://jerm.co.za/images/2012/08/jerm-womens-day-abuse.jpg)
It came with a link to a blog that helped inspire it. Link to blog (http://helenmoffett.bookslive.co.za/blog/2012/08/08/take-your-women%E2%80%99s-day-and-shove-it/)

Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on October 26, 2012, 11:27:40 pm
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/282239_515363428483602_2000840693_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Veras on October 27, 2012, 01:16:12 am
Pudding?  Bland?

Nikki, I think this was supposed to go in worst cartoons, not best.  ;)

On an unrelated note:  OMFG I want pudding now.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Thejebusfire on October 27, 2012, 01:51:37 am
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mcjd95qnc41qk0cogo1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Kristine on October 27, 2012, 03:35:04 am
(http://cdn2-b.examiner.com/sites/default/files/styles/image_content_width/hash/e4/f1/e4f162806dacf8a420c2e4812390b8de.JPG)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on October 27, 2012, 11:27:06 am
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/545081_285559898186189_1812334782_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: DiscoBerry on October 27, 2012, 02:42:02 pm
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mcjd95qnc41qk0cogo1_500.jpg)

That is ummmmm, whoa!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Smurfette Principle on October 27, 2012, 04:01:17 pm
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mcjd95qnc41qk0cogo1_500.jpg)

That is ummmmm, whoa!

Came in here to post this. Fucking flawless cartoon.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Her3tiK on October 27, 2012, 05:13:16 pm
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mcjd95qnc41qk0cogo1_500.jpg)

That is ummmmm, whoa!

Came in here to post this. Fucking flawless cartoon.
Now that I'm not looking at this at 3AM and am no longer bone-tired, this is hilarious.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Saturn500 on October 27, 2012, 07:09:04 pm
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mcjd95qnc41qk0cogo1_500.jpg)

That is ummmmm, whoa!

Came in here to post this. Fucking flawless cartoon.
Now that I'm not looking at this at 3AM and am no longer bone-tired, this is hilarious.
I'll be honest, I'm not good at vague symbolism. Could someone please explain that?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: erictheblue on October 27, 2012, 07:23:46 pm
I'll be honest, I'm not good at vague symbolism. Could someone please explain that?

Took me a while to get it. It's a coat hanger, unfolded to form a GOP elephant.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cataclysm on October 27, 2012, 07:28:50 pm
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mcjd95qnc41qk0cogo1_500.jpg)

That is ummmmm, whoa!

Came in here to post this. Fucking flawless cartoon.
Now that I'm not looking at this at 3AM and am no longer bone-tired, this is hilarious.
I'll be honest, I'm not good at vague symbolism. Could someone please explain that?

It's a coat hanger in the shape of an elephant. The elephant is the symbol of the republican party. The republican party wants to make abortion illegal, so women who want one will have to get one through dangerous means like using a coat hanger.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Saturn500 on October 27, 2012, 07:31:58 pm
I was under the impression that it was a paperclip. But a coathanger makes more sense, I suppose.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RinellaWasHere on October 27, 2012, 09:09:57 pm
I was under the impression that it was a paperclip. But a coathanger makes more sense, I suppose.

As was I. Now I get it, though.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Smurfette Principle on October 27, 2012, 10:37:59 pm
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mcioja9Sqq1qbxkjao1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: largeham on October 27, 2012, 10:58:30 pm
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mcioja9Sqq1qbxkjao1_500.jpg)

I would stick that in the worst cartoons.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on October 28, 2012, 11:24:51 pm
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/s480x480/293806_476991475674257_626556622_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: chad sexington on October 28, 2012, 11:33:58 pm
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mcioja9Sqq1qbxkjao1_500.jpg)

I would stick that in the worst cartoons.

Good idea, poor execution :(

Also, I just noticed how much Romney looks like Nixon in that drawing.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Id82 on October 29, 2012, 06:50:21 am
I do get a Nixon vibe from Romney.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lt. Fred on October 29, 2012, 06:54:04 am
Nixon had more charisma.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on October 29, 2012, 07:04:59 pm
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/s480x480/486243_10151132114006094_46445199_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Kristine on October 29, 2012, 09:29:08 pm
(http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/76625_516209788398966_226971140_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on October 30, 2012, 12:21:32 am
(http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/76625_516209788398966_226971140_n.jpg)
Not showing
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Bender_Rodríguez on October 30, 2012, 06:32:51 am
(http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/76625_516209788398966_226971140_n.jpg)
Not showing

Is for me
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on October 30, 2012, 07:19:04 am
Now it is sorry. 
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on November 02, 2012, 11:43:59 am
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/s480x480/486243_10151132114006094_46445199_n.jpg)

I like this one. Might've done it a tad differently but I don't know how.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Damen on November 02, 2012, 12:50:43 pm
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-KlcaL0nIuh4/TqhEBK0kpGI/AAAAAAAAOGU/NWgSr59MOk8/s640/conflicting+beliefs.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Material Defender on November 02, 2012, 01:00:44 pm
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-KlcaL0nIuh4/TqhEBK0kpGI/AAAAAAAAOGU/NWgSr59MOk8/s640/conflicting+beliefs.jpg)

100% my issue with fundies!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on November 02, 2012, 03:39:08 pm
Why, they pick and choose from both sources! When you do that, the two sources can't butt heads at all!

...Ow.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Material Defender on November 02, 2012, 04:32:40 pm
Why, they pick and choose from both sources! When you do that, the two sources can't butt heads at all!

...Ow.

I don't think you can pick and choose from something that is not allegorical.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lt. Fred on November 02, 2012, 06:23:38 pm
I know this point has been made before, but Jesus wasn't white. Stop showing a white guy when you actually mean an Arab.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on November 02, 2012, 06:43:07 pm
Why, they pick and choose from both sources! When you do that, the two sources can't butt heads at all!

...Ow.

I don't think you can pick and choose from something that is not allegorical.

I don't think the people in question care.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cataclysm on November 02, 2012, 08:04:52 pm
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/319001_442560949112923_224356488_n.jpg)

Look at Mitt's most recent endorsement

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltCIEbLMaQg
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on November 04, 2012, 08:47:14 pm
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/s480x480/299864_468153129904027_290891857_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on November 04, 2012, 10:40:04 pm
i do actually wonder if how scared his dog is from that
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Damen on November 05, 2012, 12:48:22 am
Not really a cartoon, but...

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-_uAs5tmA7-U/Tc6nDQhyFgI/AAAAAAAAEvk/JE8s16RbU0k/s1600/Unlike%2BBuffy%2527s%2BThe%2BGentlemen%252C%2BIf%2Bthe%2BScreams%2Bof%2BChildren%2BHad%2BAny%2BEffect%2Bon%2BRick%2BScott%252C%2BHe%2527d%2BHave%2BDied%2BMonths%2BAgo.jpeg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Her3tiK on November 07, 2012, 12:19:34 am
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/599604_298184680292944_1190544876_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: zupper on November 07, 2012, 12:24:23 am
Is that one implying that Mitt Romney has been holding a job as a candidate?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on November 07, 2012, 01:08:58 pm
No it's implying he would have held a job as president.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: worlder on November 07, 2012, 01:56:49 pm
I think that pic unintentionally implied that Obama is still going be the cause of 8 million people having no jobs.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cataclysm on November 08, 2012, 11:22:13 am
Should have been

Romney: I'm going to create 12 million jobs

Obama: Well, you certainly gave me a job.

(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/396232_556561127702736_422879272_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: worlder on November 08, 2012, 04:58:14 pm
Once again impressed by the subtlety of Clay Bennett.

Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: ThunderWulf on November 08, 2012, 10:57:25 pm
That is easily now one of my favorite political cartoons.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on November 09, 2012, 12:12:49 am
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/s480x480/374122_521077297912215_1509636957_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Thejebusfire on November 09, 2012, 10:53:51 pm
Not a political cartoon but I still wanted to share it:

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mbl0b8RR1S1r28jzgo1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on November 10, 2012, 03:04:16 am
(http://www.filibustercartoons.com/comics/20121109.gif)

So true.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Kristine on November 10, 2012, 05:31:09 am
(http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/534748_507584535933162_629356135_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cataclysm on November 10, 2012, 06:58:35 pm
Not a cartoon but... o.0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhg5pULj_Z4
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Sixth Monarchist on November 15, 2012, 01:14:05 pm
Because everyone loves Guardian cartoons (http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cartoon/2012/nov/14/mervyn-king-triple-dip-recession1).

(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2012/11/14/1352916833989/15.11.12-Steve-Bell-on-Me-006.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Bender_Rodríguez on November 15, 2012, 04:24:22 pm
Because everyone loves Guardian cartoons (http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cartoon/2012/nov/14/mervyn-king-triple-dip-recession1).

(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2012/11/14/1352916833989/15.11.12-Steve-Bell-on-Me-006.jpg)
Ok, someone is going to have to explain this
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Atheissimo on November 15, 2012, 05:10:29 pm
Because everyone loves Guardian cartoons (http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cartoon/2012/nov/14/mervyn-king-triple-dip-recession1).

(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2012/11/14/1352916833989/15.11.12-Steve-Bell-on-Me-006.jpg)
Ok, someone is going to have to explain this

I don't know if the expression 'dead cat bounce' is a thing in America. It's when something improves slightly even though it's still doomed to fail, like if a crappy sports team has a brief winning streak. Even a dead cat will bounce if you drop it on the floor.

The 'cat' in the cartoon is Bank of England chairman Mervyn King, who recently warned that the UK could experience a triple dip recession. I'm guessing the gimp represents the UK economy, being towed through shit by Mervyn King, who is the dead cat in question about to bounce for a third time.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Kristine on November 19, 2012, 03:09:32 am
(http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/311210_2577727737966_344891227_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: ScrappyB on November 20, 2012, 12:42:55 am
Strip by Berke Breathed:

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_wH2q0Hi6LU8/THkrC-57Y6I/AAAAAAAAEeo/Zfg5BlXhW6U/s1600/aw100825.gif)

He created it for his college newspaper back in 1979. Sadly, it still applies.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: ScrappyB on November 21, 2012, 01:19:51 am
(http://www.trbimg.com/img-50a13cdc/turbine/la-tot-cartoons-pg-right-wingers-careen-into-craziness/600)

I lived in the Seattle area for over 30 years, and I've always liked Horsey's stuff.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cataclysm on November 21, 2012, 02:58:54 pm
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/319068_388823037860773_321206275_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Material Defender on November 21, 2012, 07:45:56 pm
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/319068_388823037860773_321206275_n.jpg)

Well, I doubt anyone wants to be handed a mutant child with nothing on its head but very large eyebrows, a mouth larger than its head, and ears.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on November 21, 2012, 10:54:35 pm
(http://www.alternet.org/files/styles/large/public/secessionclr.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on November 22, 2012, 05:27:26 pm
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/610_559711014055550_1470418673_n.png)

(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/s480x480/558768_199469680178011_95817242_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Morgenleoht on November 22, 2012, 06:01:27 pm
That second one is so deliciously subtle...
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: worlder on November 22, 2012, 10:16:39 pm
That second one is so deliciously subtle...

Too subtle for me.

I'm kind of lost.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Morgenleoht on November 22, 2012, 10:19:26 pm
That second one is so deliciously subtle...

Too subtle for me.

I'm kind of lost.

The Republicans are now eating crow. :)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Material Defender on November 22, 2012, 11:43:43 pm
The Leave it to Beaver one is rather nice. We'll probably see tax rates consistently going up for the highest percentage from now on anyways. We need to admit that supply side economics don't work and move on, instead of Republicans pretending it's sacred.

That second one is so deliciously subtle...

Too subtle for me.

I'm kind of lost.

The Republicans are now eating crow. :)

Must be a regional thing. Means absolutely nothing special to me. It'd only make sense if they were poor now and had to eat roadkill, but it's clear from that picture that's not the case. So it means zero things.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Morgenleoht on November 23, 2012, 12:25:32 am
Eating crow is another way of saying eating humble pie/eating your words.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on November 23, 2012, 01:46:27 am
Specifically, eating crow is humiliation after being proven wrong when you've been a very strong proponent/opponent of something.

It's mostly a US colloquialism but it has some roots in the Bible. Leviticus calls crow forbidden to eat.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Material Defender on November 23, 2012, 09:11:51 am
Specifically, eating crow is humiliation after being proven wrong when you've been a very strong proponent/opponent of something.

It's mostly a US colloquialism but it has some roots in the Bible. Leviticus calls crow forbidden to eat.

Must be a Southern thing. Since I'm American and I've never heard of that crap.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on November 23, 2012, 09:35:40 am
...Why do you automatically assume it's a Southern thing? Just cause you've never heard of it that doesn't really mean anything. You're one person who may just never be around people who say it.

Also, I've heard it all over the place, including Hawaii.

And, googling it can show it isn't just one region like other phrases might be. Such as "The O.C." being common in Maryland but not in other places.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Material Defender on November 23, 2012, 09:38:07 am
You said it was biblical, and the south is known for being into their bibles. Thus my assumption it's a southern thing. I mean, I know the Pop and Soda divergence tends to be east/west based.

But the full name is Soda-Pop, so nobody's wrong!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cerim Treascair on November 23, 2012, 12:55:09 pm
Speaking as a born and raised Oregonian (so, Northwest), I've heard 'eating crow' since I was young.  And it's soda, dammit.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Moltar on November 23, 2012, 01:12:51 pm
Speaking as a born and raised Oregonian (so, Northwest), I've heard 'eating crow' since I was young.  And it's soda, dammit.

I'm from the Northeast, and have also heard the term "eating crow" and it is indeed 'soda'.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Meshakhad on November 23, 2012, 01:22:24 pm
Speaking as a born and raised Oregonian (so, Northwest), I've heard 'eating crow' since I was young.  And it's soda, dammit.

I'm from the Northeast, and have also heard the term "eating crow" and it is indeed 'soda'.

Well, I don't know about this "eating crow", but I call that other stuff "sulfuric acid".
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on November 23, 2012, 04:53:52 pm
I've heard 'eating crow' and I've lived in California and currently live in Wisconsin.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: ironbite on November 23, 2012, 05:51:05 pm
Ok so it's agreed.  Material Defender's an idiot.

Ironbite-moving on.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Material Defender on November 23, 2012, 06:03:14 pm
http://popvssoda.com:2998/ Apparently it's a three way split between Coastals, Midwest, and South. >.>

Ok so it's agreed.  Material Defender's an idiot.

Ironbite-moving on.

Yes, I'm an idiot because I made a false assumption from a false premise once, which I elaborated and understood it was false after being explained more clearly.

Some pretty stringent terms there, iron.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on November 23, 2012, 08:07:27 pm
Ok so it's agreed.  Material Defender's an idiot.

Ironbite-moving on.

...Okay, Ironbite, that was very uncalled for.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RavynousHunter on November 23, 2012, 09:42:07 pm
Born and raised (unfortunately) in AR, and I've never heard "eating crow" before now.  I always just heard "getting what they deserve."
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: KZN02 on November 23, 2012, 09:59:16 pm
I interpreted it as Jim Crow laws.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: TheL on November 23, 2012, 10:01:24 pm
A lot of people have never watched the TV edit of Outlaw Star either, apparently.  I know that "eating crow" was used in the TV edit of one episode.  (In the uncensored DVD, the phrase is "eating shit.")
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RavynousHunter on November 23, 2012, 10:18:20 pm
I watched the TV edit of Outlaw Star, but I don't remember that particular line.  Then again, that was for-fucking-ever ago, when it was on Toonami.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on November 23, 2012, 10:22:08 pm
I'm Australian and I have heard of eating crow. And it's called soft-drink.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RavynousHunter on November 23, 2012, 10:32:18 pm
You people and your odd euphemisms.  I just call it by its brand name.  If its Coke, its Coke, and if its Dr. Pepper, its Dr. Pepper.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: starseeker on November 24, 2012, 06:34:52 am
They're "fizzy drinks" here.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on November 24, 2012, 06:55:18 am
I just say soda and I'm a military brat so.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Material Defender on November 24, 2012, 08:31:13 am
I just say soda and I'm a military brat so.

What? You move around a lot but still had it ingrained as soda?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on November 24, 2012, 09:08:54 am
...Yes?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RinellaWasHere on November 24, 2012, 02:03:12 pm
Oregonian all my life- Never heard the phrase "eating crow" out loud, but I've seen in it writing a few times, enough to be familiar with it.

And I haven't called it "pop" in years.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Osama bin Bambi on November 24, 2012, 03:53:49 pm
Huh... I live in Washington and I call it soda or "seltzer," depending on what I'm drinking. I've never called it "pop."

When I was little I used to call it "bubble-water."
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Auggziliary on November 24, 2012, 04:08:12 pm
A few I know call every carbonated drink "coke", but most call it "soda".
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Veras on November 24, 2012, 04:40:44 pm
It's usually Coke here in Indianapolis, but cola, soda, and pop are also acceptable.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Auggziliary on November 24, 2012, 05:02:09 pm
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mdraytl9P31qkml81o1_500.png)

Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on November 25, 2012, 12:00:57 am
I call it soda, and I live in NY. Also I've heard of the expression "eating crow".
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: ScrappyB on November 25, 2012, 05:26:14 am
I'm from WA, and I use soda and pop interchangably. My mom is from SC though, which is probably where I picked it up. Getting back on track...

(http://media.caglecartoons.com/media/cartoons/16/2012/11/21/122801_600.jpg)

(http://media.caglecartoons.com/media/cartoons/139/2012/11/19/122659_600.jpg)

(http://media.caglecartoons.com/media/cartoons/53/2012/11/13/122314_600.jpg)

 

Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Auggziliary on November 25, 2012, 04:36:21 pm
I'm just wondering, does it seem like conservatives are now the angry, easily offended ones nowdays? I read an article about how everyone loved Reagan because was always positive, and that the liberals were the whiny, unreasonable, and easily offended ones. Now its clearly the opposite.
Is it true that conservatives have gotten more cry-babyish? I'm only 17 so I wouldn't know.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RinellaWasHere on November 25, 2012, 04:40:50 pm
I'm just wondering, does it seem like conservatives are now the angry, easily offended ones nowdays? I read an article about how everyone loved Reagan because was always positive, and that the liberals were the whiny, unreasonable, and easily offended ones. Now its clearly the opposite.
Is it true that conservatives have gotten more cry-babyish? I'm only 17 so I wouldn't know.

Not all of them, not even most. But this isn't a site about the majority of conservatives. Most conservatives are wonderful people with whom we disagree. They may be wrong abut most issues, but they aren't bad people.

But that fringe element that's abso-friggen-lutely nuts? Yeah, they're babies in denim diapers with a pistol holster.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Auggziliary on November 25, 2012, 04:51:42 pm
I'm just wondering, does it seem like conservatives are now the angry, easily offended ones nowdays? I read an article about how everyone loved Reagan because was always positive, and that the liberals were the whiny, unreasonable, and easily offended ones. Now its clearly the opposite.
Is it true that conservatives have gotten more cry-babyish? I'm only 17 so I wouldn't know.

Not all of them, not even most. But this isn't a site about the majority of conservatives. Most conservatives are wonderful people with whom we disagree. They may be wrong abut most issues, but they aren't bad people.

But that fringe element that's abso-friggen-lutely nuts? Yeah, they're babies in denim diapers with a pistol holster.

What about Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh, Fox News, etc? They aren't fringe groups yet they whine like babies.
Also, I didn't mean that people who are conservative are whiny people, nor that all conservatives whine about politics. Sorry if that was easy to confuse. It just seems like their rhetoric is all based on whining about something. Of course every politician whines, it just seems like whenever conservatives have a problem, their only way of addressing that issue is whining about how they want to "restore America" or some vague bullshit.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Material Defender on November 25, 2012, 04:59:33 pm
What about Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh, Fox News, etc? They aren't fringe groups yet they whine like babies.
Also, I didn't mean that people who are conservative are whiny people, nor that all conservatives whine about politics. Sorry if that was easy to confuse. It just seems like their rhetoric is all based on whining about something. Of course every politician whines, it just seems like whenever conservatives have a problem, their only way of addressing that issue is whining about how they want to "restore America" or some vague bullshit.

Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh are fringe, actually. Same with Pat Robertson. Fox News has things over the range, but they've become more and more extreme to draw in viewers. The main issue is that the Republican party, not conservatives, got pulled over to the extreme by the tea party. This kind of pull over to the right and up has left them without any real direction because the 'restore america' to some mythical past that doesn't exist. They sound like Islamic Fundamentalists looking for a golden age that doesn't exist.

As a note, my father is a moderate conservative and he has found the Republicans so repugnant since Reagen he hasn't voted for them since then.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Auggziliary on November 25, 2012, 05:07:22 pm
What about Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh, Fox News, etc? They aren't fringe groups yet they whine like babies.
Also, I didn't mean that people who are conservative are whiny people, nor that all conservatives whine about politics. Sorry if that was easy to confuse. It just seems like their rhetoric is all based on whining about something. Of course every politician whines, it just seems like whenever conservatives have a problem, their only way of addressing that issue is whining about how they want to "restore America" or some vague bullshit.

Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh are fringe, actually. Same with Pat Robertson. Fox News has things over the range, but they've become more and more extreme to draw in viewers. The main issue is that the Republican party, not conservatives, got pulled over to the extreme by the tea party. This kind of pull over to the right and up has left them without any real direction because the 'restore america' to some mythical past that doesn't exist. They sound like Islamic Fundamentalists looking for a golden age that doesn't exist.

As a note, my father is a moderate conservative and he has found the Republicans so repugnant since Reagen he hasn't voted for them since then.

Beck and Limbaugh's shows aren't fringe though considering how popular they are. Pretty much every conservative I've met worships them, and like 70% of the people I know are conservative like that. My dad is a conservative too but he thinks they're pretty moderate/conservative. I know he voted for Bush both times, McCain, and then Romney. I'm not sure who he voted for before that.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RinellaWasHere on November 25, 2012, 05:10:09 pm
Auggy: First, I hope you don't mind the nickname. Second, I wasn't accusing you of that. I just wanted to climb on my soapbox for a while. Also, I wanted to use the phrase "denim diapers" really badly. Rusty and the others are fringe, they're just really loud and have a lot of exposure. They represent the far end. Though I'll admit that American politics has turned more and more to those fringes recently, and it worries me.

MD: Stop saying what I want to say five times better than I could. ;)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on November 25, 2012, 05:12:55 pm
The thing is Fox etc moved the right so much that the left is the old right.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cataclysm on November 25, 2012, 05:25:36 pm
I'm just wondering, does it seem like conservatives are now the angry, easily offended ones nowdays? I read an article about how everyone loved Reagan because was always positive, and that the liberals were the whiny, unreasonable, and easily offended ones. Now its clearly the opposite.
Is it true that conservatives have gotten more cry-babyish? I'm only 17 so I wouldn't know.

Not all of them, not even most. But this isn't a site about the majority of conservatives. Most conservatives are wonderful people with whom we disagree. They may be wrong abut most issues, but they aren't bad people.

A lot of people call themselves conservatives because the like the word.

Of course, conservatism in the past is different than conservatism now.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Auggziliary on November 25, 2012, 05:28:27 pm
Auggy: First, I hope you don't mind the nickname. Second, I wasn't accusing you of that. I just wanted to climb on my soapbox for a while. Also, I wanted to use the phrase "denim diapers" really badly. Rusty and the others are fringe, they're just really loud and have a lot of exposure. They represent the far end. Though I'll admit that American politics has turned more and more to those fringes recently, and it worries me.

MD: Stop saying what I want to say five times better than I could. ;)

No I don't mind the nickname. Its a portmanteau of my pet parrot's name, Auggie, and "auxilliary". Also "denim diapers" made me giggle.

From my experience, Rush and Beck seem like an average conservative COMMENTATOR*. I understand that many conservatives are rational people, and many of them seem very dissapointed in the tea party and other popular conservatives. However most of the conservative people I know actually love Beck and Rush. Pretty much 70% - 80% of the people I know are like that, and I've only met 2 who hate Rush, Beck, Bush, etc. Sadly there are hardly any mainstream commentators for rational conservatives.
Another point is that Beck and Limbaugh generally aren't at their "Final Form"(IE: completely honest about their views) when they're on air. Those conservatives that worship them only see them in their not-as-horrible attitudes, and don't realize how big of a douchebag Rush and Beck are. Ditto with the Tea Party. There have been a few teachers that are part of the Tea Party or at least support it. None of these people are idiots, they just haven't seen the terrible, idiotic side of the Tea Party.
Even though Rush Limbaugh, as a person, is more of a fringe person, his show isn't. Ditto with Beck and the Tea Party. They are extremely popular among conservatives. Of course there are conservatives that hate them, and there are conservatives that listen to Rush and Beck but still disagree with them, but that doesn't mean Rush and Beck are any less popular.

*I'm really sorry I had to use all-caps. It sounds like I'm angry but I'm really not. I just needed a way to emphasize that word...
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: ScrappyB on November 25, 2012, 05:31:18 pm
I'm just wondering, does it seem like conservatives are now the angry, easily offended ones nowdays? I read an article about how everyone loved Reagan because was always positive, and that the liberals were the whiny, unreasonable, and easily offended ones. Now its clearly the opposite.
Is it true that conservatives have gotten more cry-babyish? I'm only 17 so I wouldn't know.

Not all of them, not even most. But this isn't a site about the majority of conservatives. Most conservatives are wonderful people with whom we disagree. They may be wrong abut most issues, but they aren't bad people.

But that fringe element that's abso-friggen-lutely nuts? Yeah, they're babies in denim diapers with a pistol holster.

Regan could also smile and act jovial while he stabbed you in the back. He was one of the most two faced politicians ever to live in the White House, and he really should have been impeached for going behind Congress's back with the whole Iran Contra scandal.

As far as most conservatives go, many of them ARE decent people, but a lot of the ones I know have fallen for the distraction method. Not sure if there's an official name for this, but the neocons have them worked up over social issues that are frankly none of their business or the idea that poor people are getting something for nothing, they don't seem to notice their political leaders are out to rob them blind wouldn't piss on them if they were on fire.

I love fishing, and am a member on several fishing message boards. Since a lot of people who hunt also fish, there are quite a few gun enthusiasts on the boards. I have to avoid the off topic section on the one board that allows political posts, because every time I take a peek it's full of messages about how Obama is a gay commie Kenyan Muslim who is out to ban guns. People who are very nice, willing to give helpful advice and would drive halfway across the county to help a fellow board member pull their stuck trailer out of the mud are convinced Obama wants to abolish the Second Amendment. In spite of the fact that Obama has barely mentioned guns, and the gun control advocates are pissed at him for not doing more.

I'm convinced the conservative pundits harp on issues like gun control, Obamacare and gay marriage to keep people like this from noticing their lives would be shit if the neocons got their way.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RinellaWasHere on November 25, 2012, 05:33:03 pm
Those are actually all fair points. They may be fringe, but that doesn't mean the mainstream doesn't support them to some extent. It actuallymmay be an interesting look into the conservative persecution complex- they think the world is falling apart around them, so they cling to the biggest bit of refuge they can find, even if it's horrible and gross and has a bad TV show.

Also, if you need to emphasize, there's italics and bold, done by putting "i" or "b" in [brackets] at the start of the word or phrase and putting "/i" or "/b" at the end, also in brackets.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Auggziliary on November 25, 2012, 05:36:18 pm


Also, if you need to emphasize, there's italics and bold, done by putting "i" or "b" in [brackets] at the start of the word or phrase and putting "/i" or "/b" at the end, also in brackets.

Oh, doy!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: agentCDE on November 25, 2012, 06:04:57 pm
Another point is that Beck and Limbaugh generally aren't at their "Final Form"(IE: completely honest about their views) when they're on air.

Meanwhile, inside my imagination:

Quote from: Rush Limbaugh
Fool! This isn't even my final form! Time to go... Super Conservative... TIMES FOUR! HAAAAAAAAAAAAAA-

pfffahahahahahahaha

Thank you, Auggz, that is a hilarious mental image.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on November 25, 2012, 06:05:33 pm
I actually have a conservative friend who is otherwise quite reasonable at times.

However, he is also the son of a CEO, which means he basically sees things from a different angle than I do.

We don't agree on politics, but we don't talk about them.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: MadCatTLX on November 25, 2012, 06:06:28 pm
You said it was biblical, and the south is known for being into their bibles. Thus my assumption it's a southern thing. I mean, I know the Pop and Soda divergence tends to be east/west based.

But the full name is Soda-Pop, so nobody's wrong!

However the south isn't known for actually reading their bibles.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Auggziliary on November 25, 2012, 06:10:28 pm
You said it was biblical, and the south is known for being into their bibles. Thus my assumption it's a southern thing. I mean, I know the Pop and Soda divergence tends to be east/west based.

But the full name is Soda-Pop, so nobody's wrong!

However the south isn't known for actually reading their bibles.

Or reading...
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lt. Fred on November 25, 2012, 06:22:11 pm
Reagan was one of the few executives who could honestly escape criminal prosecution on the basis that he had no idea what was going on and never made any decisions. Many of the people who were actually president were jailed.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Auggziliary on November 25, 2012, 06:32:56 pm
Reagan was one of the few executives who could honestly escape criminal prosecution on the basis that he had no idea what was going on and never made any decisions. Many of the people who were actually president were jailed.

I know that Reagan was an awful person in reality.
I was referring to his "stage act". He was praised for being positive and friendly, but today most republicans are praised by other republicans for "telling it like it is!" or "not afraid to be not politically correct!" (Read: being a douchebag).
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lt. Fred on November 25, 2012, 06:35:25 pm
My point is that many liberals are unfair to poor old Ronald. He never really did anything wrong. He read out some speeches and occasionally signed some documents. He wasn't responsible for Iran-Contra, he just didn't have the brainpower to understand it.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: mellenORL on November 25, 2012, 06:36:38 pm
You said it was biblical, and the south is known for being into their bibles. Thus my assumption it's a southern thing. I mean, I know the Pop and Soda divergence tends to be east/west based.

But the full name is Soda-Pop, so nobody's wrong!

However the south isn't known for actually reading their bibles.

Or reading...



Okay, Please.....time for the non-Southerners with attitudes to "check your dribble-edge". It gets old, and depressing, when I see comments reflecting an old stereotype, and not experience. A Southern accent does not automatically signal bigotry, illiteracy, or mental retardation, or inbreeding. Yes, there are plenty of loud mouthed ignorant fuckwits here. I bet there are plenty where you live, too.

I was born in the South. Nearly all of us can read. A lot of us actually write what you like to read, too. Lots of famous authors of fine American literature are Southern (Harper Lee, Truman Capote, Anne Tyler, etc. etc. etc. So are most of the people at NASA, Redhills Missile Research (Ala.), Houston NASA mission control, etc. etc. ad nauseum. Georgia Tech is one of the best universities in the world (the MRI and PET scanners were developed there), and Duke, and etc. etc. etc.

Please remember, that just because a state votes red, doesn't mean there aren't lots of us blue folks living there. Usually a little less than 45% of the total population, but hardly something to dismiss, 'k? If the secession idiots actually got their way, half of those states' citizens would pack up and move back to civilization.

Okay, sorry....rant over... :)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Auggziliary on November 25, 2012, 06:42:24 pm
My point is that many liberals are unfair to poor old Ronald. He never really did anything wrong. He read out some speeches and occasionally signed some documents. He wasn't responsible for Iran-Contra, he just didn't have the brainpower to understand it.

Sure... but that had nothing to do with my point. Whether he knew what he was doing or not he still acted happy on stage.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: MadCatTLX on November 25, 2012, 07:53:18 pm
You said it was biblical, and the south is known for being into their bibles. Thus my assumption it's a southern thing. I mean, I know the Pop and Soda divergence tends to be east/west based.

But the full name is Soda-Pop, so nobody's wrong!

However the south isn't known for actually reading their bibles.

Or reading...



Okay, Please.....time for the non-Southerners with attitudes to "check your dribble-edge". It gets old, and depressing, when I see comments reflecting an old stereotype, and not experience. A Southern accent does not automatically signal bigotry, illiteracy, or mental retardation, or inbreeding. Yes, there are plenty of loud mouthed ignorant fuckwits here. I bet there are plenty where you live, too.

I was born in the South. Nearly all of us can read. A lot of us actually write what you like to read, too. Lots of famous authors of fine American literature are Southern (Harper Lee, Truman Capote, Anne Tyler, etc. etc. etc. So are most of the people at NASA, Redhills Missile Research (Ala.), Houston NASA mission control, etc. etc. ad nauseum. Georgia Tech is one of the best universities in the world (the MRI and PET scanners were developed there), and Duke, and etc. etc. etc.

Please remember, that just because a state votes red, doesn't mean there aren't lots of us blue folks living there. Usually a little less than 45% of the total population, but hardly something to dismiss, 'k? If the secession idiots actually got their way, half of those states' citizens would pack up and move back to civilization.

Okay, sorry....rant over... :)

I was born in, and have lived in Oklahoma all my life. I can honestly say I've seen real people who live up to and exceed the stereotype. I've seen people still use the term "colored folk" and no one cared. I hear the word "nigger" used almost daily in reference to black people. I've had someone say straight up that we should be rewarding the rich for being successful and punish the poor so they'll stop enjoying it and not want to be poor any more. I know a guy at my school who fucked his aunt and they were on the news because the cops busted their "child sex ring" were his aunt and her friend "seduced" him and his friend with booze and cigarettes (the guy was 16, hardly a kid, and likely not seduced).

I have a whole thread devoted to the stuff I see daily, mostly around the small town where I live near and go to school in. See here (http://forums.fstdt.net/flame-and-burn/an-hour-in-my-life/) for the thread. I encourage you to read all of it. I update it almost daily during the week, though I've been at home on fall break for the last week and haven't had anything to post.

That's not to say there aren't good people here in the south, just that in my town any of them are undercover for fear of their life. The closer you get to Tulsa the less you'll see this stuff, but down south just a ways on highway 75 it quickly becomes the place I describe here and in that thread.

Now, I shall play you the song of my people, the rare, intelligent,  southerner with an appreciation for science:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ovcwnBaOMI

 
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Auggziliary on November 25, 2012, 07:56:26 pm
You said it was biblical, and the south is known for being into their bibles. Thus my assumption it's a southern thing. I mean, I know the Pop and Soda divergence tends to be east/west based.

But the full name is Soda-Pop, so nobody's wrong!

However the south isn't known for actually reading their bibles.

Or reading...



Okay, Please.....time for the non-Southerners with attitudes to "check your dribble-edge". It gets old, and depressing, when I see comments reflecting an old stereotype, and not experience. A Southern accent does not automatically signal bigotry, illiteracy, or mental retardation, or inbreeding. Yes, there are plenty of loud mouthed ignorant fuckwits here. I bet there are plenty where you live, too.

I was born in the South. Nearly all of us can read. A lot of us actually write what you like to read, too. Lots of famous authors of fine American literature are Southern (Harper Lee, Truman Capote, Anne Tyler, etc. etc. etc. So are most of the people at NASA, Redhills Missile Research (Ala.), Houston NASA mission control, etc. etc. ad nauseum. Georgia Tech is one of the best universities in the world (the MRI and PET scanners were developed there), and Duke, and etc. etc. etc.

Please remember, that just because a state votes red, doesn't mean there aren't lots of us blue folks living there. Usually a little less than 45% of the total population, but hardly something to dismiss, 'k? If the secession idiots actually got their way, half of those states' citizens would pack up and move back to civilization.

Okay, sorry....rant over... :)

I've lived in middle TN since I was 5...
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: QueenofHearts on November 25, 2012, 09:05:34 pm
Reagan was one of the few executives who could honestly escape criminal prosecution on the basis that he had no idea what was going on and never made any decisions. Many of the people who were actually president were jailed.

I know that Reagan was an awful person in reality.
I was referring to his "stage act". He was praised for being positive and friendly, but today most republicans are praised by other republicans for "telling it like it is!" or "not afraid to be not politically correct!" (Read: being a douchebag).

If I had to make an educated guess, I would say that "change" from optimism to cynicism could best be explained in two ways. First and foremost, their guy was in the Whitehouse. Second, I think Rush Limbaugh (and Hannity, Beck, Et. Al. but mostly Rush) may have made the right more cynical and snotty. These people are more or less shock jocks and many of them know that it is easier to appeal to peoples' emotions than reason. So they get people riled up by convincing them not to listen to other news sources and then the people fall into a cycle. It also doesn't help that this establishment is responsible for such absurdities as death panels, welfare queens, and Obama recession, all of which seeks to make their listeners more angry at other people and cynical of government.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lt. Fred on November 25, 2012, 09:36:48 pm
The lack of proper education in the South relative to the North is not a stereotype. Educational outcomes are worse, adjusting for all the usual stuff, than the North. That's the opposite of a stereotype.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cataclysm on November 25, 2012, 11:21:45 pm
My point is that many liberals are unfair to poor old Ronald. He never really did anything wrong. He read out some speeches and occasionally signed some documents. He wasn't responsible for Iran-Contra, he just didn't have the brainpower to understand it.

Sure... but that had nothing to do with my point. Whether he knew what he was doing or not he still acted happy on stage.

Like Dubya?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Auggziliary on November 25, 2012, 11:25:27 pm
My point is that many liberals are unfair to poor old Ronald. He never really did anything wrong. He read out some speeches and occasionally signed some documents. He wasn't responsible for Iran-Contra, he just didn't have the brainpower to understand it.

Sure... but that had nothing to do with my point. Whether he knew what he was doing or not he still acted happy on stage.

Like Dubya?

Yeah I guess. I didn't use Dubya as an example though because a lot of republicans don't really like him, or at least respect him much less than Reagan. Also he was president when whiny conservatism was becoming more popular IMO.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Sour Grapes on November 26, 2012, 04:46:38 pm
You said it was biblical, and the south is known for being into their bibles. Thus my assumption it's a southern thing. I mean, I know the Pop and Soda divergence tends to be east/west based.

But the full name is Soda-Pop, so nobody's wrong!

However the south isn't known for actually reading their bibles.

Or reading...

Hey!  I'm from the South, and I read.   :-\
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Auggziliary on November 26, 2012, 04:48:00 pm
You said it was biblical, and the south is known for being into their bibles. Thus my assumption it's a southern thing. I mean, I know the Pop and Soda divergence tends to be east/west based.

But the full name is Soda-Pop, so nobody's wrong!

However the south isn't known for actually reading their bibles.

Or reading...

Hey!  I'm from the South, and I read.   :-\

Same here. But the stereotype of southerners not reading is kind of true for most...
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: mellenORL on November 26, 2012, 04:49:07 pm
My point is that many liberals are unfair to poor old Ronald. He never really did anything wrong. He read out some speeches and occasionally signed some documents. He wasn't responsible for Iran-Contra, he just didn't have the brainpower to understand it.

I have not yet read a recent school history book entry about Reagan, so maybe the school districts need to improve their vetting process for textbook accuracy and bias.

I was an adult when Reagan was elected. I was young and naive, and I voted for him his first term. He, however, was not naive. He was not stupid. He was not innocent. He did quite a bit more than just sign a few papers. The nice old grand dad act was just that - an act,  performed by a former professional movie actor. This absolutely drove the better journalists and Democratic politicians at that time nuts!

No matter what dirt they came up with on Reagan, he just smiled and shrugged and awwwww shucked it off. His nickname wasn't just "The Great Communicator", it was also "The Teflon President". He simply never got caught outright. It almost seems as if people nowadays are solely focused on his last days in office, when he had the early warning signs of onset of Alzheimer's. Please, understand that I don't see him as "poor old addle-brained Gram-pa Reagan". I witnessed his presidency. I remember things quite a bit differently. He was just a smooth operator.

Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Sour Grapes on November 26, 2012, 04:50:51 pm
You said it was biblical, and the south is known for being into their bibles. Thus my assumption it's a southern thing. I mean, I know the Pop and Soda divergence tends to be east/west based.

But the full name is Soda-Pop, so nobody's wrong!

However the south isn't known for actually reading their bibles.

Or reading...

Hey!  I'm from the South, and I read.   :-\
It would help if southern politicians weren't so keen on cutting education.  Like Haley Barbour.
Same here. But the stereotype of southerners not reading is kind of true for most...

It would probably help if southern politicians weren't so keen on abolishing public education.  Haley Barbour is a prime example of a Southern Politician cutting education to make the budget.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Material Defender on November 26, 2012, 04:55:38 pm
I think I could go get the Texas Republican platform to see that there's another reason why they are against public education. Stupid people are easier to control. You can't have a democracy without education.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Auggziliary on November 26, 2012, 05:29:26 pm
Also many conservatives think education is snobby.
Plus there's the stigma of "Atheist libruls teachin homo-monkey-sex" (Professionals teaching sex-ed, evolution, Big bang theory, etc).
I'm not kidding about the last part. I remember in middle school us learning about how crappy the USA education system is compared to other countries, and a few students commenting "Well other countries must have better schools since they don't teach crap like atheism and evolution".
Also I remember reading a blog about Japanese high school's vs American high schools and one of the comments mentioned something about Japanese schools being better. Then they went off about how they would never let their kids go to a public school since they teach "atheistic theories like Big Bang and evolution" and how they took religion out of schools. She completely missed the point about how USA education hasn't been as good as other countries. The lady didn't seem to realize that Japan is less than 1% Christian, and that their schools are pretty much secular and provide a much better science curriculum. The lady who ran the blog replied back and refuted everything she said though, and the Christian lady had an "oh" sort of response.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Material Defender on November 26, 2012, 05:36:43 pm
Also many conservatives think education is snobby.
Plus there's the stigma of "Atheist libruls teachin homo-monkey-sex" (Professionals teaching sex-ed, evolution, Big bang theory, etc).
I'm not kidding about the last part. I remember in middle school us learning about how crappy the USA education system is compared to other countries, and a few students commenting "Well other countries must have better schools since they don't teach crap like atheism and evolution".
Also I remember reading a blog about Japanese high school's vs American high schools and one of the comments mentioned something about Japanese schools being better. Then they went off about how they would never let their kids go to a public school since they teach "atheistic theories like Big Bang and evolution" and how they took religion out of schools. She completely missed the point about how USA education hasn't been as good as other countries. The lady didn't seem to realize that Japan is less than 1% Christian, and that their schools are pretty much secular and provide a much better science curriculum. The lady who ran the blog replied back and refuted everything she said though, and the Christian lady had an "oh" sort of response.

I actually went to a Catholic Private School and got a better education than most high schools in the area because Catholicism places a high value on self-determination, history, and critical thinking, at least the more Liberal Catholicism in my area. It also helps that Catholicism doesn't go around trying to actively deny science, but instead conforms to it nowadays. We did have one protestant in my school, but I never asked him about his position on evolution or it all. He was from a conservative type family, but he didn't snub education. He just knew he wasn't very naturally smart, especially in comparison to some of the people he hung out with.

I want to get with some crazy conservatives that put Ayn Rand and Jesus on the same boat, and then explain how Jesus was really a communist, but its barest definition. I really do.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Auggziliary on November 26, 2012, 05:59:33 pm
Also many conservatives think education is snobby.
Plus there's the stigma of "Atheist libruls teachin homo-monkey-sex" (Professionals teaching sex-ed, evolution, Big bang theory, etc).
I'm not kidding about the last part. I remember in middle school us learning about how crappy the USA education system is compared to other countries, and a few students commenting "Well other countries must have better schools since they don't teach crap like atheism and evolution".
Also I remember reading a blog about Japanese high school's vs American high schools and one of the comments mentioned something about Japanese schools being better. Then they went off about how they would never let their kids go to a public school since they teach "atheistic theories like Big Bang and evolution" and how they took religion out of schools. She completely missed the point about how USA education hasn't been as good as other countries. The lady didn't seem to realize that Japan is less than 1% Christian, and that their schools are pretty much secular and provide a much better science curriculum. The lady who ran the blog replied back and refuted everything she said though, and the Christian lady had an "oh" sort of response.

I actually went to a Catholic Private School and got a better education than most high schools in the area because Catholicism places a high value on self-determination, history, and critical thinking, at least the more Liberal Catholicism in my area. It also helps that Catholicism doesn't go around trying to actively deny science, but instead conforms to it nowadays. We did have one protestant in my school, but I never asked him about his position on evolution or it all. He was from a conservative type family, but he didn't snub education. He just knew he wasn't very naturally smart, especially in comparison to some of the people he hung out with.

I want to get with some crazy conservatives that put Ayn Rand and Jesus on the same boat, and then explain how Jesus was really a communist, but its barest definition. I really do.

Aren't most southerners protestant though? I like the Catholic schools education better than southern public schools sometimes, but the states don't have much control over what they teach.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Material Defender on November 26, 2012, 06:15:39 pm
I believe most Southerners are protestants. I just know the general statistics where Catholics are 33% of American Christians, at least last stat I saw. Might have gone up actually since HIspanics are overwhelming Catholic.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Moltar on November 26, 2012, 06:19:53 pm
The lack of proper education in the South relative to the North is not a stereotype. Educational outcomes are worse, adjusting for all the usual stuff, than the North. That's the opposite of a stereotype.

From what I hear a C in the north is like an A in the south. Is there any truth to this?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Auggziliary on November 26, 2012, 06:22:18 pm
The lack of proper education in the South relative to the North is not a stereotype. Educational outcomes are worse, adjusting for all the usual stuff, than the North. That's the opposite of a stereotype.

From what I hear a C in the north is like an A in the south. Is there any truth to this?

I had an Aussie friend who said a low A in our school was a C or D in Australia.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on November 26, 2012, 06:30:32 pm
I dunno since I went to Pittsford which is one of the top 100 districts but I think the southern states rank lower on SATs
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Auggziliary on November 26, 2012, 06:46:57 pm
I dunno since I went to Pittsford which is one of the top 100 districts but I think the southern states rank lower on SATs

The ACT is a southern thing ("thang" lol). The SAT's are a Northern thing. Most colleges in the south don't require SAT's to get in, so our schools tend to focus their curriculum around the ACT. Plus people here generally take it as a "back up".
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Material Defender on November 26, 2012, 07:15:15 pm
I did amazing on the ACT and pretty average on the SAT. But mostly because I will guess. I've been told not to guess but I couldn't help it. I think that's just nutty that you're punished for guessing.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on November 26, 2012, 07:28:09 pm
hmm.  i will have to compare ACT scores   i took both
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Meshakhad on November 27, 2012, 12:39:40 am
I always heard that the SAT was preferred on the coasts, and the ACT in the center of the country. Growing up in Washington State, I took the SAT.

Also, we're getting off topic.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RavynousHunter on November 27, 2012, 12:47:17 am
Even further off-topic, but I've heard both tests are utterly meaningless if you manage to get into a good community college before uni, one with a Guaranteed Admissions Program with your uni of choice.

Seriously, though, I got fucking sick of standardized tests by the time I got outta school.  I had 3 standardized tests I took thru school, that I can remember: Stanford 9, ACTAAP, and ... somethin with the name of a state, I think it was Iowa, or somethin.  Its hard to remember because they're all the fucking same fucking thing.  Also, bloody stupid easy, if you managed to memorize a few key things, so its entire purpose (gauging how well a school was doing, academically) was thrown out the window because it wasn't an actual test of what you'd learned, simply what you could memorize.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Kit Walker on November 27, 2012, 10:08:06 am
Even further off-topic, but I've heard both tests are utterly meaningless if you manage to get into a good community college before uni, one with a Guaranteed Admissions Program with your uni of choice.

Not even that much. Go to a decent community college, one whose credits transfer to the university of your choice, and that GPA is all they seem to give a shit about.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cataclysm on November 27, 2012, 10:13:35 am
Also, we're getting off topic.

(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/574552_494464520587060_232548846_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Thejebusfire on November 29, 2012, 04:09:22 pm
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_me7qu6nlCG1rubozqo1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on November 29, 2012, 05:18:02 pm
Is it just me, or does Sam seem a little... malicious?

Though I do love how shocked the person is that they had a racial prejudice bug in their heads.  In the sense that one would be shocked about discovering a dead mouse in their computer.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: KZN02 on November 29, 2012, 06:47:31 pm
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_me7qu6nlCG1rubozqo1_500.jpg)
Kind of ironic given this picture:
(http://www.dartmouth.edu/~hist32/History/Seuss02.jpg)

Though you could argue that picture was during war time, which needed propaganda.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Auggziliary on November 29, 2012, 06:48:54 pm
Is it just me, or does Sam seem a little... malicious?

Though I do love how shocked the person is that they had a racial prejudice bug in their heads.  In the sense that one would be shocked about discovering a dead mouse in their computer.

It wouldn't be too shocking to find a dead mouse next to a computer. All you have to do is replace the batteries :P
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on November 29, 2012, 07:51:40 pm
Is it just me, or does Sam seem a little... malicious?

Though I do love how shocked the person is that they had a racial prejudice bug in their heads.  In the sense that one would be shocked about discovering a dead mouse in their computer.

It wouldn't be too shocking to find a dead mouse next to a computer. All you have to do is replace the batteries :P

I said in the computer ;D

Also, I just realized that it was Dr. Seuss who drew that.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Auggziliary on November 29, 2012, 08:21:47 pm
Is it just me, or does Sam seem a little... malicious?

Though I do love how shocked the person is that they had a racial prejudice bug in their heads.  In the sense that one would be shocked about discovering a dead mouse in their computer.

It wouldn't be too shocking to find a dead mouse next to a computer. All you have to do is replace the batteries :P

I said in the computer ;D

Also, I just realized that it was Dr. Seuss who drew that.

Oh yeah! He did war propaganda before he made books.
I know that the book "Horton hears a Who" is based off of the USA's occupation in Japan after WW2. He dedicated it to his Japanese friend.
A common misconception is that the book is about abortions, hence the "A person is a person, no matter how small" pro-life propaganda.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Jack Mann on November 29, 2012, 08:31:24 pm
Yeah, he was pretty strongly anti-Japanese during the war.  However, after the war, he saw the plight of the occupied Japanese, and he changed his opinion.

He wasn't a perfect man, but he was capable of changing his mind when he felt that he was wrong, which is a pretty strong recommendation in my book.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Veras on November 29, 2012, 08:35:14 pm
Yep, Dr. Seuss was a very pro-FDR, anti-isolationist political cartoonist (http://libraries.ucsd.edu/speccoll/dswenttowar/) for a newspaper in New York.  These are my two favorites:

(http://libraries.ucsd.edu/xdre/damsAccess?ds=solr/dams4&subject=bb00008180&file=1-3a.jpg)

(http://libraries.ucsd.edu/xdre/damsAccess?ds=solr/dams4&subject=bb05810261&file=1-3a.jpg)

There's a whole book (http://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/dr-seuss-goes-to-war-richard-h-minear/1102507272?ean=9781565845657) of his stuff, if you like it.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on December 01, 2012, 08:12:25 pm
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/s480x480/76412_452439968154262_434121228_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Auggziliary on December 01, 2012, 08:31:18 pm
Last year, we weren't doing anything in our Chemistry class because it was the day before christmas break. I got bored and drew an awesome Christmas tree, snowman, penguin, etc, and wrote "Happy Holidays Everyone!". I went to check on it later and someone put an "X" over "Happy Holidays" and put "Merry Christmas".
Is Christmas not a holiday or something? Do other December holidays suddenly not exist anymore?
Seriously, do they expect everyone to give up their holiday and focus on Christmas, just so fundies they feel like they're better than everyone else?

Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Distind on December 01, 2012, 08:35:11 pm
I've never gotten it, I mean you've got New Years/eve like 6 days after Christmas, so you've got two damn holidays within a week of each other. Let's just call them holidays.

But no, saying holidays doesn't forcibly exclude other beliefs! Or something... I don't really get it.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on December 01, 2012, 08:40:15 pm
I never got the big thing to do about it either, plus I love to point out to the jackasses that most of the christmas traditions are pagan in origin.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Auggziliary on December 01, 2012, 09:12:03 pm
People are dicks about it too...
"Happy Holidays!"

"SHOW YOUR FUCKING CHRISTMAS JOY AND LOVE, YOU PRICK !!!1!"
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Vypernight on December 02, 2012, 05:29:54 am
Last year, we weren't doing anything in our Chemistry class because it was the day before christmas break. I got bored and drew an awesome Christmas tree, snowman, penguin, etc, and wrote "Happy Holidays Everyone!". I went to check on it later and someone put an "X" over "Happy Holidays" and put "Merry Christmas".
Is Christmas not a holiday or something? Do other December holidays suddenly not exist anymore?
Seriously, do they expect everyone to give up their holiday and focus on Christmas, just so fundies they feel like they're better than everyone else?

A couple years ago at work, a customer I had helped wished me a Happy Hanukkah.  I thanked him, he asked if I was Jewish, and I said no but I appreciated the thought.  Not 30 seconds after the guy disappeared, some lady walked over and screamed in my face because I was not offended by someone wishing me well in their holiday.

Yeah, I'm supposed be offended by good wishes for a holiday, even if it's not mine, but I'm not supposed to be offended by some bitch screaming in my face.

Now I purposely say, "Happy Holidays," just to piss them all off!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Meshakhad on December 02, 2012, 01:07:34 pm
Anyone who tells me what I should be offended by is going to lose my respect in a hurry.

I use "Happy Holidays" when I can't determine the religion of the person, "Merry Christmas" if I am fairly certain that they're Christian, "Happy Hanukkah" if I'm fairly certain that they're Jewish, and "Chag Sameach" if I have reason to believe they understand any Hebrew.

The funny thing is that "Chag Sameach", the traditional Hebrew greeting for all holy days, literally translates as "Happy Holidays".
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on December 02, 2012, 01:23:25 pm
Last year, we weren't doing anything in our Chemistry class because it was the day before christmas break. I got bored and drew an awesome Christmas tree, snowman, penguin, etc, and wrote "Happy Holidays Everyone!". I went to check on it later and someone put an "X" over "Happy Holidays" and put "Merry Christmas".
Is Christmas not a holiday or something? Do other December holidays suddenly not exist anymore?
Seriously, do they expect everyone to give up their holiday and focus on Christmas, just so fundies they feel like they're better than everyone else?

A couple years ago at work, a customer I had helped wished me a Happy Hanukkah.  I thanked him, he asked if I was Jewish, and I said no but I appreciated the thought.  Not 30 seconds after the guy disappeared, some lady walked over and screamed in my face because I was not offended by someone wishing me well in their holiday.

Yeah, I'm supposed be offended by good wishes for a holiday, even if it's not mine, but I'm not supposed to be offended by some bitch screaming in my face.

Now I purposely say, "Happy Holidays," just to piss them all off!

I've been wished "Happy Hanukkah" many times, most of the time it's been from guys who were clearly Orthodox Jews, never got offended. The weird thing is that people tell me a lot of the time that I "look Jewish". ???
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Auggziliary on December 02, 2012, 01:37:50 pm
Unless it's Christmas, I generally tell everyone "Happy Holidays". Even if the person I'm saying it so is a Christian, there's still other things to celebrate, like New Year's.
Christmas is becoming more sexular though, which I like.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Dakota Bob on December 02, 2012, 02:21:46 pm
Unless it's Christmas, I generally tell everyone "Happy Holidays". Even if the person I'm saying it so is a Christian, there's still other things to celebrate, like New Year's.
Christmas is becoming more sexular though, which I like.

(http://i.imgur.com/gRzvB.jpg?1)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Auggziliary on December 02, 2012, 02:26:36 pm
Wow..... Secular*. I do like a sexy Christmas though.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Jack Mann on December 02, 2012, 02:27:04 pm
Yeah, I don't consider Christmas to be a purely Christian holiday anymore.  I haven't been a Christian for a while, but I still celebrate Christmas, because, hey, presents (also family, charity, stuff like that).
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lt. Fred on December 02, 2012, 02:52:47 pm
The funny thing is that "Chag Sameach", the traditional Hebrew greeting for all holy days, literally translates as "Happy Holidays".

Is it offensive if I use that? I really like the sound.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: chad sexington on December 02, 2012, 05:26:06 pm
Christmas is becoming more sexular though, which I like.

A sexular Christmas is the best Christmas :D
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Mechtaur on December 02, 2012, 06:53:40 pm
Yeah, I don't consider Christmas to be a purely Christian holiday anymore.  I haven't been a Christian for a while, but I still celebrate Christmas, because, hey, presents (also family, charity, stuff like that).

I'm pretty sure most people just do Christmas out of tradition and as a social thing.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on December 02, 2012, 07:34:11 pm
Not sure that is why I do xmas.  I call it xmas mostly because of Futurama.  I also celebrate by sealing my fireplace to prevent Santa from killing me
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: TheL on December 02, 2012, 07:46:00 pm
I actually contributed (sorta) to the "Happy Holidays does not mean Fuck You" conversation...

http://repost-this-image.tumblr.com/post/36885012011/there-is-no-war-on-the-religious-holiday-of

http://repost-this-image.tumblr.com/post/36885260894/a-slightly-different-version-of-the-previous-post
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Meshakhad on December 03, 2012, 12:27:29 am
The funny thing is that "Chag Sameach", the traditional Hebrew greeting for all holy days, literally translates as "Happy Holidays".

Is it offensive if I use that? I really like the sound.

Not at all. However, keep in mind that "ch" in Hebrew is a very different sound, almost like a deep-throated gurgle. If you say "Hag Sameah", you'll be OK. Prouncing the "ch" as in English may offend someone, and certainly constitutes butchery of the Hebrew language.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: starseeker on December 03, 2012, 08:10:11 am
The funny thing is that "Chag Sameach", the traditional Hebrew greeting for all holy days, literally translates as "Happy Holidays".

Is it offensive if I use that? I really like the sound.

Not at all. However, keep in mind that "ch" in Hebrew is a very different sound, almost like a deep-throated gurgle. If you say "Hag Sameah", you'll be OK. Prouncing the "ch" as in English may offend someone, and certainly constitutes butchery of the Hebrew language.

Is the "ch" like the "ch" in "loch"?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on December 03, 2012, 08:32:35 am
Christmas is becoming more sexular though, which I like.

A sexular Christmas is the best Christmas :D

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mdjzwiDME51qb8e9no1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Meshakhad on December 03, 2012, 12:12:35 pm
The funny thing is that "Chag Sameach", the traditional Hebrew greeting for all holy days, literally translates as "Happy Holidays".

Is it offensive if I use that? I really like the sound.

Not at all. However, keep in mind that "ch" in Hebrew is a very different sound, almost like a deep-throated gurgle. If you say "Hag Sameah", you'll be OK. Prouncing the "ch" as in English may offend someone, and certainly constitutes butchery of the Hebrew language.

Is the "ch" like the "ch" in "loch"?

Yes.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Vypernight on December 05, 2012, 05:34:48 am
Another holiday question;

Why is it when Israel shoots missiles at another country, it's called Self Defense, but when someone wishes you Happy Hanukkah, it's a WAR on Christmas?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: TheL on December 05, 2012, 03:40:11 pm
Another holiday question;

Why is it when Israel shoots missiles at another country, it's called Self Defense, but when someone wishes you Happy Hanukkah, it's a WAR on Christmas?

Because fundies are asshats.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on December 07, 2012, 09:03:15 am
(http://www.neuronu.ro/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/Ali-ferzat-cartoonist.-1.jpg)
(http://www.neuronu.ro/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/Ali-ferzat-cartoonist.-2.jpg)
(http://www.neuronu.ro/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/Ali-ferzat-cartoonist.-3.jpg)
(http://www.neuronu.ro/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/Ali-ferzat-cartoonist.-4.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: booley on December 07, 2012, 10:15:56 am
From facebook, where all dumb ideas go to pick up other other dumb ideas and breed.

(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/197946_10151228638502740_531786100_n.jpg)

it's not just that I disagree with this

I really am confused what the hell they tryngn to say?

That Obama is a marxist and so now are christie and coulter?

that politicians working together to solve a problem is the same as drinking cyanide?

that Obama looks weird in sunglasses?

that the right really has no sense of irony?

What?

Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on December 07, 2012, 10:35:53 am
But you still liked it? Or did you mean to post this in the worst cartoons thread?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Veras on December 07, 2012, 11:14:59 am
This was in the worst political cartoons thread very recently.

It is a reference to Jonestown.  It is saying that Obama's following is a cult, and that Chris Christie joined the cult drank the Kool-Aid because he complimented the administration's response to Hurricane Sandy.

I have no idea why Ann Coulter is there.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: booley on December 07, 2012, 11:30:58 am
But you still liked it? Or did you mean to post this in the worst cartoons thread?

sorry it's been a while and didn't see the "worst cartoons thread.

Be ye not fooled. This is for both the best worst political cartoons around!

and apparently just got banned from the source page for this.

I guess that's a badge of honor?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Veras on December 07, 2012, 01:33:56 pm
(http://bornlivelovedie.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/elephant_cone_of_shame-400x355.gif)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on December 07, 2012, 05:52:58 pm
But you still liked it? Or did you mean to post this in the worst cartoons thread?

sorry it's been a while and didn't see the "worst cartoons thread.

Be ye not fooled. This is for both the best worst political cartoons around!

and apparently just got banned from the source page for this.

I guess that's a badge of honor?

I distinctly remember editing that post. Hn.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Thejebusfire on December 08, 2012, 02:07:27 pm
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lvcqhy669T1qdmg4po1_500.png)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Auggziliary on December 08, 2012, 02:12:55 pm
I think that was on here before.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Rabbit of Caerbannog on December 08, 2012, 02:32:27 pm
Not sure that is why I do xmas.  I call it xmas mostly because of Futurama.  I also celebrate by sealing my fireplace to prevent Santa from killing me
I celebrate it by dressing as Santa and trying to kill kefkaownsall. This year Imma shove coal so far up your stocking you'll be coughing up diamonds.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: MadCatTLX on December 08, 2012, 03:03:11 pm
I think that was on here before.

I think you're right.

I will say the lower panel looks like a typical scene from around this area, minus the adoption part. To be honest, that's only about half way down the scale of how bad parents around here can be.  One guy told me a story of how his parents had their friends house sit while they went on vacation, and they set the house on fire in a meth lab accident.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on December 08, 2012, 03:17:13 pm
I think that was on here before.

It bears repeating, I think.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Feral Dog on December 09, 2012, 12:58:48 am
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lvcqhy669T1qdmg4po1_500.png)

I had to look at this one for quite a while to see why the nice couple at the top was rejected.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Alehksunos on December 09, 2012, 01:28:01 am
I think it's a sad aspect of society, that homosexuals are some of the nicest people on the face of the planet, yet they're outcasts of society because they defy the stereotype of love - which is considered, according to holier-than-thou pundits "between a man and a woman." Also sad, is that most of the time - while there are some homosexual couples who don't get along either - the whole "man and a woman" thing is a bunch of fairy-tale bullshit, which is expressed in the second panel with the approved couple. Also note the crucifix in the "androgynous" boy's room, and his father preparing to beat the holy shit out of him because he "looks gay," a poor child who would have been raised with love and respect and most certainly accepted by the rejected couple.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lt. Fred on December 09, 2012, 08:17:01 am
Do you have any evidence to support the proposition that gays are nicer than straights? I would have assumed no difference.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Auggziliary on December 09, 2012, 09:15:38 am
Do you have any evidence to support the proposition that gays are nicer than straights? I would have assumed no difference.

It sounded more like a generalization. He's not saying they're nicer than straights, but that there are a lot of friendly gay people, so it's weird that they're treated like outcasts.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on December 09, 2012, 10:00:22 am
http://i.imgur.com/mtLNG.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/B7ilr.jpg

In short, double standards suck
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on December 09, 2012, 10:01:38 am
Oops.



Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on December 09, 2012, 10:02:01 am
Goddammit, how do I get the images themselves posted?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on December 09, 2012, 10:05:54 am
(http://i.imgur.com/mtLNG.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/B7ilr.jpg)

In short, double standards suck

Use the edit button, dude. And the tags [ img ] [ /img ] to post direct.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on December 09, 2012, 10:10:44 am
(http://i.imgur.com/mtLNG.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/B7ilr.jpg)

In short, double standards suck

Use the edit button, dude. And the tags [ img ] [ /img ] to post direct.

Thank you

(http://i.imgur.com/mtLNG.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/B7ilr.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Atheissimo on December 09, 2012, 04:48:37 pm
Ugh, there was a bit about this on Woman's Hour on Radio 4 in the UK the other day. Asking whether women were being sexist by wolf whistling Daniel Craig when he was in those little shorts in Casino Royale.

Apparently no, because when men wolf whistle it's because they're secretly rapists. Whereas when women wolf whistle it's because they're doing it for higher, more romantic reasons.

Bollocks! Some of my female friends are more sexually base than any man I've ever known!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: erictheblue on December 09, 2012, 04:54:02 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/B7ilr.jpg)

In short, double standards suck

I agree with this one - so much that I did a law school paper on it. (My prof thinks I should try to publish it - which I'd love to do - but when I graduated, I lost access to the easy way to contact law journals.)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Material Defender on December 09, 2012, 05:00:36 pm
The thing about the double standard is that its two ways. There's plenty of ones for men and women that favor each way.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Auggziliary on December 09, 2012, 05:29:08 pm
There are also people, usually men, who actually think that a man beating is wife is just keeping his control over the family, but when a woman rebels she needs to get back in her place.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: TheL on December 09, 2012, 07:27:49 pm
yet they're outcasts of society because they defy the stereotype of love - which is considered, according to holier-than-thou pundits "between a man and a woman." Also sad, is that most of the time - while there are some homosexual couples who don't get along either - the whole "man and a woman" thing is a bunch of fairy-tale bullshit, which is expressed in the second panel with the approved couple.

Well, frankly, I think that an ideal relationship would be between a man and a woman, and me. :P
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cataclysm on December 09, 2012, 08:25:24 pm
(http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/577899_510471748973841_1379828334_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on December 09, 2012, 08:38:33 pm
Personally I prefer year (4 digits)-month-day. I have to read both DMY and MDY and so I just prefer YMD because I can get confused with the other two (is 12-9-2012 December 9 or September 12?) and nobody uses YDM.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: largeham on December 09, 2012, 08:51:31 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/mtLNG.jpg)

A) WAHHHH won't someone think of teh MENZZZ!

B) The Titanic is an anomaly, otherwise women had generally low rates of survival, crew members had the highest. Also, such thinking was part of the whole 'chivalry' paradigm, which also justified refusing women the vote.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Captain Jack Harkness on December 09, 2012, 09:31:07 pm
(http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/577899_510471748973841_1379828334_n.jpg)

To be fair, a lot of measurements in the "arbitrary" US system are divisible by either 12 or 16.  Those work fairly well with fourths and thirds.  Second of all, Fahrenheit is a more "human friendly" scale.  That is, it's more related to air temperature than it is water temperature.  Also, the date format does facilitate pretty easy checking of a date on a calendar, as you go to the month and then find the day within said month.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on December 10, 2012, 02:17:58 am
B) The Titanic is an anomaly, otherwise women had generally low rates of survival, crew members had the highest. Also, such thinking was part of the whole 'chivalry' paradigm, which also justified refusing women the vote.

I have heard people quoting a study (but haven't seen the actual study) which claims that in ships that sank slowly women have a higher survival rate (because the crew and passengers have time to organise the escape to the boats) but on ships that sink quickly the survivors are those who were most physically fit (because in a panicked scramble for safety fit young men have the edge.)

But I think it was an old study anyway. With modern ships and safety measures things should be a bit more organised anyway. (unless we remember those recent cases where the crew abandoned the ship and the passengers...)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: R. U. Sirius on December 10, 2012, 09:53:04 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghtoPiAE1sA

Not really political except for those who conflate religion and politics, but I liked it.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Rabbit of Caerbannog on December 10, 2012, 03:40:04 pm
Wait, wait, wait. Who actually said that burning someone's house down and poisoning their dog is okay? That image just looked like some nonsense one would find on an MRA site. What garbage.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Material Defender on December 10, 2012, 05:58:51 pm
Wait, wait, wait. Who actually said that burning someone's house down and poisoning their dog is okay? That image just looked like some nonsense one would find on an MRA site. What garbage.

Reminds me of a situation where one time a woman got slapped once, and in retaliation tied him to the bed while he slept and burnt the house down, which was somehow justified retaliation. Mind you, I heard this by hearsay and it really seems more like a good story than a real event.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Rabbit of Caerbannog on December 10, 2012, 06:22:26 pm
Wait, wait, wait. Who actually said that burning someone's house down and poisoning their dog is okay? That image just looked like some nonsense one would find on an MRA site. What garbage.

Reminds me of a situation where one time a woman got slapped once, and in retaliation tied him to the bed while he slept and burnt the house down, which was somehow justified retaliation. Mind you, I heard this by hearsay and it really seems more like a good story than a real event.
Yeah I would certainly look into whether or not that was real. And even if it were, it sounds like no more than an isolated event. I can think of dozens of outrageous cases in terms of criminal law, but such cases do not in anyway represent the norm. That is why the cartoon posted here is such an awful strawman.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Material Defender on December 10, 2012, 07:00:57 pm
Wait, wait, wait. Who actually said that burning someone's house down and poisoning their dog is okay? That image just looked like some nonsense one would find on an MRA site. What garbage.

Reminds me of a situation where one time a woman got slapped once, and in retaliation tied him to the bed while he slept and burnt the house down, which was somehow justified retaliation. Mind you, I heard this by hearsay and it really seems more like a good story than a real event.
Yeah I would certainly look into whether or not that was real. And even if it were, it sounds like no more than an isolated event. I can think of dozens of outrageous cases in terms of criminal law, but such cases do not in anyway represent the norm. That is why the cartoon posted here is such an awful strawman.

I've come to treat such anecdotes, even if true, as just anecdotes. They aren't that important to the overarching trend. There's going to be outliers on either side.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on December 10, 2012, 07:07:41 pm
That incident is real but missing fuck ton of context.  She burned him while sleeping cause he was beating her constantly in fact that was where we get burning bed defense
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: TheL on December 10, 2012, 07:13:12 pm
(http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/577899_510471748973841_1379828334_n.jpg)

Fahrenheit is based on the freezing and boiling points of seawater, whereas Celsius is based on the freezing/boiling points of fresh water.  That's why there's a difference.  It's really not an arbitrary scale at all.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: MadCatTLX on December 10, 2012, 09:48:13 pm
(http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/577899_510471748973841_1379828334_n.jpg)

Fahrenheit is based on the freezing and boiling points of seawater, whereas Celsius is based on the freezing/boiling points of fresh water.  That's why there's a difference.  It's really not an arbitrary scale at all.


Why seawater? It's not something that one would boil regularly or care what the freezing point of it is.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Captain Jack Harkness on December 10, 2012, 10:03:37 pm
(http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/577899_510471748973841_1379828334_n.jpg)

Fahrenheit is based on the freezing and boiling points of seawater, whereas Celsius is based on the freezing/boiling points of fresh water.  That's why there's a difference.  It's really not an arbitrary scale at all.


Why seawater? It's not something that one would boil regularly or care what the freezing point of it is.

I think her point is that it's not arbitrary.  Of course, I question if her facts are right, which would render her point moot.  I never thought that Fahrenheit was meant to relate to water at all.  If the goal isn't to measure the boiling or freezing point of water, than of course it's going to seem arbitrary in relation to water.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on December 10, 2012, 10:36:39 pm
Fahrenheit is based on the freezing and boiling points of seawater, whereas Celsius is based on the freezing/boiling points of fresh water.  That's why there's a difference.  It's really not an arbitrary scale at all.

How is Fahrenheit based on the freezing point of seawater? Per this (http://www.onr.navy.mil/Focus/ocean/water/temp3.htm), that occurs at around 28 degrees Fahrenheit.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Sigmaleph on December 10, 2012, 10:55:25 pm
The Fahrenheit scale is, in fact, defined so that water freezes at 32° and boils at 212°. At least, now. Historically, the Fahrenheit scale was defined based on stuff like stable temperature of brine and the typical temperature of the human body, and then it turned out that the water boiling point was around 212°, so they redefined it. So, it's not as arbitrary as it seems at first sight.

And besides, defining zero as the freezing point of water is not logical. Kelvin for the win, where zero actually means zero.

I also have strong opinions on radians versus degrees, 1000 vs 1024 bytes to a kilobyte, and the weird mixture of decimal and sexagesimal that is used when telling time
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on December 11, 2012, 12:00:01 am
That incident is real but missing fuck ton of context.  She burned him while sleeping cause he was beating her constantly in fact that was where we get burning bed defense

Is it bad that I remember they made a made for TV movie out of the story??
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Captain Jack Harkness on December 11, 2012, 04:27:57 am
That incident is real but missing fuck ton of context.  She burned him while sleeping cause he was beating her constantly in fact that was where we get burning bed defense

Is it bad that I remember they made a made for TV movie out of the story??

Did Lifetime make it?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Material Defender on December 11, 2012, 06:45:20 am
That incident is real but missing fuck ton of context.  She burned him while sleeping cause he was beating her constantly in fact that was where we get burning bed defense

Thanks for the additional information. I just was saying it reminded me, not that I was passing judgment.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Sixth Monarchist on December 11, 2012, 04:20:30 pm
This thread is getting too understandable. Hit it:

(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pixies/2012/12/10/1355182133998/11.12.12-David-Cameron-re-011.jpg)

...that's better.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RinellaWasHere on December 11, 2012, 04:21:28 pm
I... Bu... What?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Sigmaleph on December 11, 2012, 08:22:34 pm
Something about... horses?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Auggziliary on December 11, 2012, 08:26:07 pm
Something about... horses?

And a pink condom???
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on December 11, 2012, 08:29:58 pm
That incident is real but missing fuck ton of context.  She burned him while sleeping cause he was beating her constantly in fact that was where we get burning bed defense

Is it bad that I remember they made a made for TV movie out of the story??

Did Lifetime make it?

I'm not sure if Lifetime made it, all I remember is that it had Farrah Fawcett in it.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Veras on December 11, 2012, 08:31:59 pm
Something about... horses?

Maybe it means austerity?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on December 11, 2012, 09:00:31 pm
Something about... horses?

Maybe it means austerity?
Yeah, it is.  "Horseterity" is a pun off "horse" (as in heroin) and "austerity"
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Rabbit of Caerbannog on December 11, 2012, 09:41:34 pm
This thread is getting too understandable. Hit it:

(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pixies/2012/12/10/1355182133998/11.12.12-David-Cameron-re-011.jpg)

...that's better.
...why is there a bubblegum condom man?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Jack Mann on December 11, 2012, 10:11:50 pm
Because Steve Bell.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: MadCatTLX on December 11, 2012, 10:40:36 pm
Are American political cartoons this unintelligible to y'all across the pond?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: booley on December 12, 2012, 03:14:48 pm
...

I have heard people quoting a study (but haven't seen the actual study) which claims that in ships that sank slowly women have a higher survival rate (because the crew and passengers have time to organise the escape to the boats) but on ships that sink quickly the survivors are those who were most physically fit (because in a panicked scramble for safety fit young men have the edge.)

But I think it was an old study anyway. With modern ships and safety measures things should be a bit more organised anyway. (unless we remember those recent cases where the crew abandoned the ship and the passengers...)

I read that too

http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1969142,00.html

Basically the theory goes that since the Titanic sank slowly, there was time for social order to be restored and had time to consider not being such dicks to one another.

On the Lusitania, people panicked and it was everyone for themselves.

However not everyone agrees with this.

http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn22119-sinking-the-titanic-women-and-children-first-myth.html
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: booley on December 13, 2012, 04:49:56 pm
hopefully no one has posted this yet..

(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/184454_10151402731423132_420568787_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: ScrappyB on December 18, 2012, 03:23:10 am
(http://media.caglecartoons.com/media/cartoons/89/2012/12/04/123410_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Sixth Monarchist on December 18, 2012, 05:12:45 pm
I assume Calvin and Hobbes has showed up at some point on this thread, so I won't waste your time, and just leave you with this (http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Calvin%27s_Commentaries%E2%80%94Complete/Genesis_1-23) and this (http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Leviathan).

Nah, just kidding, I'll leave you with this (http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_djgssszshgM/SYXCzpR0MbI/AAAAAAAAAyY/VYle3udsueo/s1600-h/CalvinHobbs.BMP).
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: DiscoBerry on December 18, 2012, 05:36:54 pm
(http://i937.photobucket.com/albums/ad220/mrtraffic97/and120912blog_zps0fdcecf3.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on December 18, 2012, 06:14:36 pm
So they chose the wrong government?   ???  I don't like the new government but it's better then a dictator
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: largeham on December 18, 2012, 06:27:43 pm
(http://i937.photobucket.com/albums/ad220/mrtraffic97/and120912blog_zps0fdcecf3.jpg)

Yeah, I know. People fighting for democracy and freedom will only lead to worse governments. They should shut up and let the adults figure it out.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on December 18, 2012, 07:29:43 pm
(http://i937.photobucket.com/albums/ad220/mrtraffic97/and120912blog_zps0fdcecf3.jpg)

Yeah, I know. People fighting for democracy and freedom will only lead to worse governments. They should shut up and let the adults figure it out.

Whenever I see any news about Egypt these days "Won't Get Fooled Again" starts playing in my head...

Quote
Meet the new boss/Same as the old boss...
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Kit Walker on December 19, 2012, 01:33:00 am
Well, a dude did just get locked up for blasphemy he committed on Facebook (http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/13/world/middleeast/cairo-court-orders-3-year-term-for-insulting-religion.html?_r=1&). It seems like they're not off to that good of a start really.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: cheese007 on December 19, 2012, 04:00:14 pm
Well, in their defense, developed democracies don't always elect the best leaders either.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on December 21, 2012, 10:48:43 am
Now for double standards and general sexism against women

(http://i.imgur.com/ZmonI.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/1weBw.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/WdCSL.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/xhI8E.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/OdnpB.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/FMqtP.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Material Defender on December 21, 2012, 01:59:19 pm
Now for double standards and general sexism against women

(http://i.imgur.com/ZmonI.jpg)

I find that men and women can both be what is defined as 'bitchy,' and most men may try to define themselves as assertive, but most people would prefer the word 'dick'. And the reason why a woman might be defined as 'nag' because generally a nag is either A: A parent to a lazy child or B: a person of equal or inferior position acting insistent that their ideas are superior apart from their real value and women tend to be in either roles a great deal, thus definition comes up more. I've told my brother to stop nagging me when I've been playing a game before, so hey. Stud/slut is starting to change. Slut is either gaining a better meaning to people or men who are particular to playing the field are gaining the title of manslut and shamed equally; though which depends on the area and person. I tend to dislike the 'play the field' types, but hey. I think Articulate and Chatty have completely two different meanings, and I've never had any gender connotations with them. Someone who uses a wide vocabulary is articulate and someone who is chatty is someone who talks to talk. Women tend to be more prone to chattiness due to social constructs while men tend to try to be articulate to seem 'superior,' but that's a different double standard that defining the same term differently.

The breast feeding stuff and the cosplay stuff I'll agree are pretty strong double standard.

The final one though, well. Main question is with that "Do men and women have the same reaction to see the chest of the opposite gender?" As a bisexual, I have a much stronger sexual reaction to female chests than male ones, though both inspire some reaction. Sexual reactions in public tend to be discomforting to some. If it's cultural inertia? We need to go slow, but make the shift. If it's more biological, than there's probably good reason why a woman should wear a top. Though I know in the past men wore swimsuits that covered their chest and thighs.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Feral Dog on December 21, 2012, 05:13:05 pm
The final one though, well. Main question is with that "Do men and women have the same reaction to see the chest of the opposite gender?" As a bisexual, I have a much stronger sexual reaction to female chests than male ones, though both inspire some reaction. Sexual reactions in public tend to be discomforting to some. If it's cultural inertia? We need to go slow, but make the shift. If it's more biological, than there's probably good reason why a woman should wear a top. Though I know in the past men wore swimsuits that covered their chest and thighs.

It's entirely cultural. There's plenty of places in the world where women run around topless (and some of those places tend to see our fascination with breasts as really strange and/or childish).
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Material Defender on December 21, 2012, 09:55:30 pm
The final one though, well. Main question is with that "Do men and women have the same reaction to see the chest of the opposite gender?" As a bisexual, I have a much stronger sexual reaction to female chests than male ones, though both inspire some reaction. Sexual reactions in public tend to be discomforting to some. If it's cultural inertia? We need to go slow, but make the shift. If it's more biological, than there's probably good reason why a woman should wear a top. Though I know in the past men wore swimsuits that covered their chest and thighs.

It's entirely cultural. There's plenty of places in the world where women run around topless (and some of those places tend to see our fascination with breasts as really strange and/or childish).

I had not heard about those. I can understand though. But cultural inertia is strong, so the change would require a measured change and approach. Just diving into it would be bad...
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on December 22, 2012, 04:19:09 am
(http://www.vancourier.com/opinion/editorial-cartoon/7594869.bin?size=620x400)

(http://www.vancourier.com/opinion/editorial-cartoon/7549830.bin?size=620x400)

(http://www.vancourier.com/opinion/editorial-cartoon/7520280.bin?size=620x400)

(http://www.vancourier.com/opinion/editorial-cartoon/7434937.bin?size=620x400)

(http://www.vancourier.com/opinion/editorial-cartoon/7364072.bin?size=620x400)

(http://www.vancourier.com/opinion/editorial-cartoon/7326068.bin?size=620x400)

(http://www.vancourier.com/opinion/editorial-cartoon/7232310.bin?size=620x400)

(http://www.vancourier.com/opinion/editorial-cartoon/7195523.bin?size=620x400)

(http://www.vancourier.com/opinion/editorial-cartoon/7152309.bin?size=620x400)

(http://www.vancourier.com/opinion/editorial-cartoon/6955039.bin?size=620x400)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on December 23, 2012, 08:22:59 am
(http://i.imgur.com/9gap3.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: TenfoldMaquette on December 23, 2012, 08:34:08 am
(http://i.imgur.com/9gap3.jpg)

^Because typically the Muslim girl doesn't have a choice in the matter, and stands a very real chance of being maimed or killed should she exhibit thoughts or actions that suggest otherwise. :-/ If you could be born a nun (as opposed to joining as a deliberate action taken by a willing participant), and the Catholic Church beheaded (or set fire to, or doused in acid, etc) nuns who attempted to leave the faith or even indicated nothing less than total submission to the will of the Church/their male family members, then maybe there might have been a relevant point somewhere in there.

For the record, I acknowledge that there are always exceptions, and I find the Catholic Church to be horrendous in it's own fashion so I'm explicitly NOT taking their side either.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on December 23, 2012, 08:36:04 am
(http://i.imgur.com/9gap3.jpg)

^Because typically the Muslim girl doesn't have a choice in the matter, and stands a very real chance of being maimed or killed should she exhibit thoughts or actions that suggest otherwise. :-/ If you could be born a nun (as opposed to joining as a deliberate action taken by a willing participant), and the Catholic Church beheaded (or set fire to, or doused in acid, etc) nuns who attempted to leave the faith or even indicated nothing less than total submission to the will of the Church/their male family members, then maybe there might have been a relevant point somewhere in there.

For the record, I acknowledge that there are always exceptions, and I find the Catholic Church to be horrendous in it's own fashion so I'm explicitly NOT taking their side either.
I'm pretty sure that only happens in places where fundamentalist Islam is the norm, not the exception.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on December 23, 2012, 08:38:58 am
(http://i.imgur.com/sLplJ.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Rabbit of Caerbannog on December 23, 2012, 10:40:13 am
(http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m2qsqfbbf11qlrjgjo1_1280.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Material Defender on December 23, 2012, 02:36:24 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/9gap3.jpg)

^Because typically the Muslim girl doesn't have a choice in the matter, and stands a very real chance of being maimed or killed should she exhibit thoughts or actions that suggest otherwise. :-/ If you could be born a nun (as opposed to joining as a deliberate action taken by a willing participant), and the Catholic Church beheaded (or set fire to, or doused in acid, etc) nuns who attempted to leave the faith or even indicated nothing less than total submission to the will of the Church/their male family members, then maybe there might have been a relevant point somewhere in there.

For the record, I acknowledge that there are always exceptions, and I find the Catholic Church to be horrendous in it's own fashion so I'm explicitly NOT taking their side either.

There are a number of willing converts who decide to cover their hair. In generally, the hair covering tends indicate a more willing participant in the exchange. Burqua are more the norm among intolerant fundies. Though there are those women who prefer it over just the hair garb. It really depends.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on December 23, 2012, 02:54:45 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/OxFMa.png)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on December 23, 2012, 04:43:22 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/9gap3.jpg)

^Because typically the Muslim girl doesn't have a choice in the matter, and stands a very real chance of being maimed or killed should she exhibit thoughts or actions that suggest otherwise. :-/ If you could be born a nun (as opposed to joining as a deliberate action taken by a willing participant), and the Catholic Church beheaded (or set fire to, or doused in acid, etc) nuns who attempted to leave the faith or even indicated nothing less than total submission to the will of the Church/their male family members, then maybe there might have been a relevant point somewhere in there.

For the record, I acknowledge that there are always exceptions, and I find the Catholic Church to be horrendous in it's own fashion so I'm explicitly NOT taking their side either.
I'm pretty sure that only happens in places where fundamentalist Islam is the norm, not the exception.
For teh record in Africa( except for Sudan) Pakistan and SE Asia aka where almost all Muslims live it's entirely a choice  no legal requirement
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Auggziliary on December 23, 2012, 04:59:39 pm
I actually really like headscarves. I think they bring out the beauty of the face, and a lot of them have pretty patterns.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Material Defender on December 23, 2012, 05:16:59 pm
I actually really like headscarves. I think they bring out the beauty of the face, and a lot of them have pretty patterns.

I've seen some nice ones before. And yeah, they really do. I honestly am not a big hair person, but most hats don't look good on women.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on December 23, 2012, 06:37:58 pm
relevant a pretty hijabi bride  (http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mdc9oaSZuc1rjtkd6o1_500.jpg) 
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Caitshidhe on December 23, 2012, 08:08:57 pm
Moving away from headscarves but not religion, I found this on Tumblr:

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/9ea3ba17175a9e882acda62cffe7f28e/tumblr_mf8uktg00i1qz4sr8o1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Agni on December 23, 2012, 08:18:12 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/9gap3.jpg)

The guy who drew this is a anti-science creationist.

Just sayin'.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Auggziliary on December 23, 2012, 08:19:02 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/9gap3.jpg)

The guy who drew this is a anti-science creationist.

Just sayin'.

What is his name?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Material Defender on December 23, 2012, 08:20:01 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/9gap3.jpg)

The guy who drew this is a anti-science creationist.

Just sayin'.

There can be good messages from bad people, ya know?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on December 23, 2012, 08:20:30 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/9gap3.jpg)

The guy who drew this is a anti-science creationist.

Just sayin'.

And? (http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Stopped_clock)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Agni on December 23, 2012, 08:28:05 pm
Feel free to fall for propaganda by a creationist. I won't.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Auggziliary on December 23, 2012, 08:33:33 pm
Feel free to fall for propaganda by a creationist. I won't.

Wait a minute. If a creationist made a poster that said that being gay was OK, would that suddenly mean that gay rights are as stupid as creationism?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Material Defender on December 23, 2012, 08:37:15 pm
Feel free to fall for propaganda by a creationist. I won't.

Considering I know women who choose to wear the head scarf and voluntarily converted to Islam, please, go stuff it.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RinellaWasHere on December 23, 2012, 08:37:25 pm
Feel free to fall for propaganda by a creationist. I won't.

It's not creationist propaganda if it has nothing to do with creationism. And isn't propaganda.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RavynousHunter on December 23, 2012, 08:38:34 pm
Feel free to fall for propaganda by a creationist. I won't.

Wait a minute. If a creationist made a poster that said that being gay was OK, would that suddenly mean that gay rights are as stupid as creationism?

Psst, Auggie...just for the record, this will lead to nothing but frustration and annoyance.  Like a dog with a bone, ya know?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Agni on December 23, 2012, 08:40:12 pm
Augzzilary: No, because that's common sense.

The guy who wrote that is a jihadist focused on converting people however.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RinellaWasHere on December 23, 2012, 08:40:58 pm
Augzzilary: No, because that's common sense.

The guy who wrote that is a jihadist focused on converting people however.

[citation needed]
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Auggziliary on December 23, 2012, 08:47:27 pm
Oh my fucking god.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on December 23, 2012, 08:51:41 pm
I hate Maher but some things he says have value.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: chad sexington on December 23, 2012, 08:57:03 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/fgG7k.jpg)

Content may be debatable, I just love that robot!  :D
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Material Defender on December 23, 2012, 08:58:35 pm
Augzzilary: No, because that's common sense.

The guy who wrote that is a jihadist focused on converting people however.

(http://images.t-nation.com/forum_images/7/c/7c069-AwJeez_Not_This_Shit_Again_.jpg)

Agni's back to his old ways. How nice.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Distind on December 23, 2012, 09:01:40 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/fgG7k.jpg)

Content may be debatable, I just love that robot!  :D
That was pretty much the point of it after all.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: FirsthandTuna on December 23, 2012, 10:20:11 pm
Augzzilary: No, because that's common sense.

The guy who wrote that is a jihadist focused on converting people however.

All of his (or her, i don't know) things I've seen are only trying to debunk stereotypes about Muslims. Can you give me an example or him/her being a "jihadist" or trying to convert people?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Saturn500 on December 23, 2012, 10:22:37 pm
I think I can read Agni's mind on this one, Tuna.

All of his (or her, i don't know) things I've seen are only trying to debunk stereotypes about Muslims.

I'm guessing that's his "evidence" of the cartoonist in question being a jihadist.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Mechtaur on December 23, 2012, 10:53:45 pm
In regards to finding the artist.

Nayzak is the artist, from what I can tell: http://nayzak.deviantart.com/ (http://nayzak.deviantart.com/)

Now, I know I might be wrong, but the art is similar and a few places when I did a reverse image search kept pointing me in that direction. But, assuming it is, Nayzak is indeed a creationist who has used the "Watchmaker" argument.

As for whether he is a "jihadist" is another matter. Especially since jihad is a vague as fuck term.

However, my opinion on the picture being discussed is that it brings up a point about the argument on how all women who wear the head scarf are being repressed. It is bullshit and annoying to see someone getting their jimmies all rustled because they can't handle the fact that the artist is a muslim (a little too enthusiastic for my taste too, but at least he is friendly for the most part).
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Sigmaleph on December 23, 2012, 11:14:14 pm
Agni: If that particular cartoon is wrong, then address the actual cartoon. Say why it's wrong. Talking about the author's other views just makes it look like you're resorting to ad hominem because you have no argument.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RinellaWasHere on December 23, 2012, 11:16:28 pm
It's worth noting that Nayzak, if it is him (and yes, Nayzak is male. I've spoken to him on the phone.), may be a creationist, but he's also pro-gay and doesn't believe in forced conversion.

Agni, I still want my fucking citation.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Rabbit of Caerbannog on December 23, 2012, 11:20:42 pm
Feel free to fall for propaganda by a creationist. I won't.
Since Creationism has nothing to do with the subject at hand, what is your point?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Agni on December 23, 2012, 11:46:38 pm
Feel free to fall for propaganda by a creationist. I won't.
Since Creationism has nothing to do with the subject at hand, what is your point?

My point is that you probably shouldn't trust the words of a creationist. Especially one biased in this particular matter.

Agni: If that particular cartoon is wrong, then address the actual cartoon. Say why it's wrong. Talking about the author's other views just makes it look like you're resorting to ad hominem because you have no argument.

Well, the cartoon is wrong in assuming that Nuns aren't oppressed as well
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Mechtaur on December 23, 2012, 11:53:01 pm
Feel free to fall for propaganda by a creationist. I won't.
Since Creationism has nothing to do with the subject at hand, what is your point?

My point is that you probably shouldn't trust the words of a creationist. Especially one biased in this particular matter.

Agni: If that particular cartoon is wrong, then address the actual cartoon. Say why it's wrong. Talking about the author's other views just makes it look like you're resorting to ad hominem because you have no argument.

Well, the cartoon is wrong in assuming that Nuns aren't oppressed as well

Except, several of us have seen female Muslims who are not oppressed in any way to wear the head scarfs. Which is the whole fucking point of the picture.

Now, tell me how his being a creationist relates to this in any way? Just saying "because he is a creationist" is stupid, on par with "trust me because I'm an atheist". In some areas it might be relevant, but it isn't so in this one.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RinellaWasHere on December 23, 2012, 11:53:25 pm
Man, you've a raging hate-on for everything, don't you?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on December 24, 2012, 12:34:59 am
Rinnie what you see her buddy is an Atheist fundie.  Someone who thinks all the worlds problems are caused by religion while displaying similar characteristics to the people he says he's above.  Basically this guy (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/44/BillMaherSept10.jpg/220px-BillMaherSept10.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Auggziliary on December 24, 2012, 12:46:07 am
Rinnie what you see her buddy is an Atheist fundie.  Someone who thinks all the worlds problems are caused by religion while displaying similar characteristics to the people he says he's above.  Basically this guy (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/44/BillMaherSept10.jpg/220px-BillMaherSept10.jpg)

Except Bill Maher can argue, even if he's arguing for crappy things.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on December 24, 2012, 12:48:42 am
True.  But I cite him since he goes off on how religion makes you not believe in science and yet he thinks vaccines make autism
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: FirsthandTuna on December 24, 2012, 01:23:33 am
Feel free to fall for propaganda by a creationist. I won't.
Since Creationism has nothing to do with the subject at hand, what is your point?

My point is that you probably shouldn't trust the words of a creationist. Especially one biased in this particular matter.

Agni: If that particular cartoon is wrong, then address the actual cartoon. Say why it's wrong. Talking about the author's other views just makes it look like you're resorting to ad hominem because you have no argument.

Well, the cartoon is wrong in assuming that Nuns aren't oppressed as well

Either give me evidence of him being a "jihadist" or admit you don't have any. Stop ignoring people asking you to back up your argument.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: ironbite on December 24, 2012, 01:42:36 am
You'll be waiting a long time then.

Ironbite-BITCH IS GONE!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: FirsthandTuna on December 24, 2012, 01:53:58 am
You'll be waiting a long time then.

Ironbite-BITCH IS GONE!

Oh. Poor persecuted Agni.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Osama bin Bambi on December 24, 2012, 02:28:56 am
It's worth noting that Nayzak, if it is him (and yes, Nayzak is male. I've spoken to him on the phone.), may be a creationist, but he's also pro-gay and doesn't believe in forced conversion.

Agni, I still want my fucking citation.

I have also had dialogues with Nayzak about atheism and creationism. Even though we disagree, I have never known him to be mean or condescending. He does not tolerate people who are simply angry and out to pick fights, however.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Damen on December 24, 2012, 06:35:00 am
Here's some things Cait sent me that I wanted her to post here but she said no to.

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/2e1a354c6f2d91c349c6994fc033fa27/tumblr_meq0u1AS0y1qz4sr8o1_500.jpg)

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mcu6ccavk41rt8sgdo1_1280.jpg)

And now a couple that aren't cartoons but worth being posted:

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mcxzzlJOJ11rt8sgdo1_1280.png)

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mcv4m6wP0Q1rt8sgdo1_500.png)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on December 24, 2012, 11:01:36 am
(http://i.imgur.com/ciU2o.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: worlder on December 24, 2012, 01:53:54 pm
Here's some things Cait sent me that I wanted her to post here but she said no to.

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mcxzzlJOJ11rt8sgdo1_1280.png)


From what I learned in history class, you never pray to the Greek gods on an individual level. Doing so would be asking for trouble. You instead pray for the well being of the city.

Wait was the covenant originally a group with divine deal as well?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Osama bin Bambi on December 25, 2012, 01:59:21 am
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/fd290eec136db48dfcbb68944190a1bc/tumblr_mfaewuy4LB1rqpcxlo1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Kristine on December 25, 2012, 11:13:01 am
(http://i.imgur.com/NDint.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Pak on December 25, 2012, 11:19:22 am
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/fd290eec136db48dfcbb68944190a1bc/tumblr_mfaewuy4LB1rqpcxlo1_500.jpg)

This is now my favorite thing ever.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Moltar on December 25, 2012, 12:49:48 pm
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/fd290eec136db48dfcbb68944190a1bc/tumblr_mfaewuy4LB1rqpcxlo1_500.jpg)

When did they start using US dollars in the Pokémon world?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Captain Jack Harkness on December 25, 2012, 01:05:08 pm
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/fd290eec136db48dfcbb68944190a1bc/tumblr_mfaewuy4LB1rqpcxlo1_500.jpg)

When did they start using US dollars in the Pokémon world?

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TwoOfYourEarthMinutes

That would be my guess.

Perhaps maybe a combination of that trope with this one:

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TranslationConvention
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on December 28, 2012, 07:01:40 pm
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/6b489d57152fda6f6e2f39c0a4c3398a/tumblr_mfjcwjZrru1rroz62o1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on December 29, 2012, 08:39:09 am
(http://www.vancourier.com/opinion/editorial-cartoon/7752966.bin?size=620x400)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Kristine on December 29, 2012, 07:41:36 pm
(http://photos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/301706_504352939587624_58879356_a.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cataclysm on December 30, 2012, 05:43:42 am
Feel free to fall for propaganda by a creationist. I won't.
Since Creationism has nothing to do with the subject at hand, what is your point?

My point is that you probably shouldn't trust the words of a creationist. Especially one biased in this particular matter.


Poisoning the well, logical fallacy.

Agni: If that particular cartoon is wrong, then address the actual cartoon. Say why it's wrong. Talking about the author's other views just makes it look like you're resorting to ad hominem because you have no argument.

Well, the cartoon is wrong in assuming that Nuns aren't oppressed as well
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Then you should have just said that in the first place. Besides, if nuns are oppressed, it still stands there are people out there who don't believe they are but believe that Muslim women are oppressed, or gloss over nuns, showing their hypocrisy. It's not that hard to understand.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Thejebusfire on January 01, 2013, 06:16:25 pm
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/9e8bdf0ae41b93694ca33f4d1c166d42/tumblr_mfjercM1Ud1r55d2io1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Alehksunos on January 01, 2013, 11:34:03 pm
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/9e8bdf0ae41b93694ca33f4d1c166d42/tumblr_mfjercM1Ud1r55d2io1_500.jpg)
lol, his sign reads "MERRY XMAS" when he looks like the guy who gets pissed off when people "Take the 'Christ' out of 'Christmas'." And yes, I understand, the artist ran out of space.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Material Defender on January 02, 2013, 10:20:42 am
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/9e8bdf0ae41b93694ca33f4d1c166d42/tumblr_mfjercM1Ud1r55d2io1_500.jpg)

That's a highly religious message, but understandable as well. I've heard stories like this when I was in catholic school. But it's a good message, essentially trying to say you have to take care of the least of us.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: erictheblue on January 02, 2013, 11:01:06 am
That's a highly religious message, but understandable as well. I've heard stories like this when I was in catholic school. But it's a good message, essentially trying to say you have to take care of the least of us.

Quote from: Matthew 25:34-45
Then the king will say to those at his right hand, ‘Come, you that are blessed by my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world; for I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you welcomed me, I was naked and you gave me clothing, I was sick and you took care of me, I was in prison and you visited me.’ Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when was it that we saw you hungry and gave you food, or thirsty and gave you something to drink? And when was it that we saw you a stranger and welcomed you, or naked and gave you clothing? And when was it that we saw you sick or in prison and visited you?’ And the king will answer them, ‘Truly I tell you, just as you did it to one of the least of these who are members of my family, you did it to me.’ Then he will say to those at his left hand, ‘You that are accursed, depart from me into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels; for I was hungry and you gave me no food, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, I was a stranger and you did not welcome me, naked and you did not give me clothing, sick and in prison and you did not visit me.’ Then they also will answer, ‘Lord, when was it that we saw you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and did not take care of you?’ Then he will answer them, ‘Truly I tell you, just as you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to me.’

It is verses like these that make me wonder how many fundies have ever read the Gospels?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on January 02, 2013, 11:21:43 am
That's a highly religious message, but understandable as well. I've heard stories like this when I was in catholic school. But it's a good message, essentially trying to say you have to take care of the least of us.

Quote from: Matthew 25:34-45
Then the king will say to those at his right hand, ‘Come, you that are blessed by my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world; for I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you welcomed me, I was naked and you gave me clothing, I was sick and you took care of me, I was in prison and you visited me.’ Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when was it that we saw you hungry and gave you food, or thirsty and gave you something to drink? And when was it that we saw you a stranger and welcomed you, or naked and gave you clothing? And when was it that we saw you sick or in prison and visited you?’ And the king will answer them, ‘Truly I tell you, just as you did it to one of the least of these who are members of my family, you did it to me.’ Then he will say to those at his left hand, ‘You that are accursed, depart from me into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels; for I was hungry and you gave me no food, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, I was a stranger and you did not welcome me, naked and you did not give me clothing, sick and in prison and you did not visit me.’ Then they also will answer, ‘Lord, when was it that we saw you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and did not take care of you?’ Then he will answer them, ‘Truly I tell you, just as you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to me.’

It is verses like these that make me wonder how many fundies have ever read the Gospels?

Only the cherry-picked bits their pastors tell them to.

It may be worth noting that that passage is one of the ones in the Jefferson Bible.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Material Defender on January 02, 2013, 11:25:05 am
It is verses like these that make me wonder how many fundies have ever read the Gospels?

A fundie is just a stubborn, bull nosed individual with little regard for view points separate from their own. Religion is simply the most common justification for their tightly held viewpoint and modify anything that disagrees with that viewpoint, either from within or without the viewpoints position.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on January 02, 2013, 11:36:58 am
Silly, fundies just cherry pick and follow the ones that go against a decent human being. And being a decent human being knows no religion in the end, it's a universal goal
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: QueenofHearts on January 03, 2013, 11:57:23 am
Quote from: Matthew 25:34-45
Then the king will say to those at his right hand, ‘Come, you that are blessed by my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world; for I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you welcomed me, I was naked and you gave me clothing, I was sick and you took care of me, I was in prison and you visited me.’ Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when was it that we saw you hungry and gave you food, or thirsty and gave you something to drink? And when was it that we saw you a stranger and welcomed you, or naked and gave you clothing? And when was it that we saw you sick or in prison and visited you?’ And the king will answer them, ‘Truly I tell you, just as you did it to one of the least of these who are members of my family, you did it to me.’ Then he will say to those at his left hand, ‘You that are accursed, depart from me into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels; for I was hungry and you gave me no food, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, I was a stranger and you did not welcome me, naked and you did not give me clothing, sick and in prison and you did not visit me.’ Then they also will answer, ‘Lord, when was it that we saw you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and did not take care of you?’ Then he will answer them, ‘Truly I tell you, just as you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to me.’

It is verses like these that make me wonder how many fundies have ever read the Gospels?

Doesn't mention guns or hating gays, so it can't be from the bible? </fundy>
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on January 03, 2013, 03:35:34 pm
About the "fiscal cliff" negotiations:
(http://www.filibustercartoons.com/comics/20121229.gif)

Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: lazerfrog on January 03, 2013, 06:11:24 pm
Are Obama's teeth supposed to be a mustache? 
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Vypernight on January 04, 2013, 04:03:15 am
That's a highly religious message, but understandable as well. I've heard stories like this when I was in catholic school. But it's a good message, essentially trying to say you have to take care of the least of us.

Quote from: Matthew 25:34-45
Then the king will say to those at his right hand, ‘Come, you that are blessed by my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world; for I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you welcomed me, I was naked and you gave me clothing, I was sick and you took care of me, I was in prison and you visited me.’ Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when was it that we saw you hungry and gave you food, or thirsty and gave you something to drink? And when was it that we saw you a stranger and welcomed you, or naked and gave you clothing? And when was it that we saw you sick or in prison and visited you?’ And the king will answer them, ‘Truly I tell you, just as you did it to one of the least of these who are members of my family, you did it to me.’ Then he will say to those at his left hand, ‘You that are accursed, depart from me into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels; for I was hungry and you gave me no food, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, I was a stranger and you did not welcome me, naked and you did not give me clothing, sick and in prison and you did not visit me.’ Then they also will answer, ‘Lord, when was it that we saw you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and did not take care of you?’ Then he will answer them, ‘Truly I tell you, just as you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to me.’

It is verses like these that make me wonder how many fundies have ever read the Gospels?

Only the cherry-picked bits their pastors tell them to.

No kidding!  You know all that talk about Sodom and Gamorah being the root of all our troubles?  Turns out they might be right;


Quote
Ezekiel 16:49

New International Version (NIV)

 49 “‘Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Moltar on January 04, 2013, 09:13:38 am
That's a highly religious message, but understandable as well. I've heard stories like this when I was in catholic school. But it's a good message, essentially trying to say you have to take care of the least of us.

Quote from: Matthew 25:34-45
Then the king will say to those at his right hand, ‘Come, you that are blessed by my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world; for I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you welcomed me, I was naked and you gave me clothing, I was sick and you took care of me, I was in prison and you visited me.’ Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when was it that we saw you hungry and gave you food, or thirsty and gave you something to drink? And when was it that we saw you a stranger and welcomed you, or naked and gave you clothing? And when was it that we saw you sick or in prison and visited you?’ And the king will answer them, ‘Truly I tell you, just as you did it to one of the least of these who are members of my family, you did it to me.’ Then he will say to those at his left hand, ‘You that are accursed, depart from me into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels; for I was hungry and you gave me no food, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, I was a stranger and you did not welcome me, naked and you did not give me clothing, sick and in prison and you did not visit me.’ Then they also will answer, ‘Lord, when was it that we saw you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and did not take care of you?’ Then he will answer them, ‘Truly I tell you, just as you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to me.’

It is verses like these that make me wonder how many fundies have ever read the Gospels?

Only the cherry-picked bits their pastors tell them to.

No kidding!  You know all that talk about Sodom and Gamorah being the root of all our troubles?  Turns out they might be right;


Quote
Ezekiel 16:49

New International Version (NIV)

 49 “‘Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy.

But thats not the king james version so it doesn't count for them.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Vypernight on January 04, 2013, 02:34:22 pm
Okay, here's the King James version:

Quote
16:49 Behold, this was the iniquity of thy sister Sodom, pride, fulness of bread, and abundance of idleness was in her and in her daughters, neither did she strengthen the hand of the poor and needy.

I found a site where someone addresses this.  The blog itself isn't bad, but read the comments to see some pick-and-choose Christianity:

https://missionyear.org/jordanleahy/the-sin-of-sodom-ezekiel-1649-50/ (https://missionyear.org/jordanleahy/the-sin-of-sodom-ezekiel-1649-50/)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: DiscoBerry on January 04, 2013, 09:45:22 pm
I thought this might fit here
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: KZN02 on January 05, 2013, 02:13:26 am
I thought this might fit here
But does the solution work?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvdf5n-zI14
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Kristine on January 10, 2013, 10:01:23 am
(http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/537375_583388031688413_765852321_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on January 10, 2013, 10:07:31 am
(http://weknowmemes.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/thanks-jesus-for-this-food-de-nada.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on January 10, 2013, 02:14:13 pm
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/57e16237f4abed201bad5e9284179c55/tumblr_mfszzx65WA1qkml81o1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on January 13, 2013, 09:48:01 am
(http://www.vancourier.com/opinion/editorial-cartoon/7797461.bin?size=620x400)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Rabbit of Caerbannog on January 13, 2013, 05:09:38 pm
(http://img.allvoices.com/thumbs/image/609/609/95782897-wayne-lapierre.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on January 13, 2013, 09:33:26 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/miEMJ.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Alehksunos on January 13, 2013, 09:49:36 pm
My picks:
* Which is the point of this comic, based on the controversy of Creationism and Evolution (the former being outdated/pseudoscience - which I don't understand why it is still being taught - while the latter is hard-worked, no-bullshit science which had refuted past "theories").
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: ScrappyB on January 14, 2013, 04:29:16 am
(http://www.vancourier.com/opinion/editorial-cartoon/7797461.bin?size=620x400)

I'm not getting anything from this one. Can someone explain?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on January 14, 2013, 08:09:38 am
I assume it has to do with the travel economy increasing so as to help kids because they're the future.

Somethin' like that. The idea that children are the future is admirable in and of itself.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on January 14, 2013, 08:11:27 am
(http://www.vancourier.com/opinion/editorial-cartoon/7797461.bin?size=620x400)

I'm not getting anything from this one. Can someone explain?

Northern Gateway is an oil pipeline project meant to go from the oil sands in Alberta and cut across northern British Columbia to deliver oil to Pacific ports for export.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on January 14, 2013, 08:28:23 am
Bad idea that is
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Distind on January 14, 2013, 10:11:25 am
Got to admit, I still don't get it. Even knowing full well what the project is, I look at the image and fail to see anything of ... I fail to see much of anything really.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on January 14, 2013, 11:29:23 am
Got to admit, I still don't get it. Even knowing full well what the project is, I look at the image and fail to see anything of ... I fail to see much of anything really.

I think it's a joke on how various groups that do destructive things to the societal fabric (in this case, the environmental repercussions could be disastrous) claim they're doing it "for the children".

BC in particular has had a crapload of problems with the teachers' union and the provincial government never being able to come to terms on a contract (then the government legislates one and the union eventually gets the law struck down in court); the teachers withdraw certain services (such as extracurricular activities--i don't think they can't strike fully) and both sides claim they're looking out for the "best interests of the students". As a student, I found this to be complete bullshit from utterly self-interested parties looking out for themselves rather than people who couldn't vote.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cataclysm on January 14, 2013, 05:56:42 pm
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/14937_543045172373132_667923814_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Rabbit of Caerbannog on January 14, 2013, 06:45:02 pm
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/14937_543045172373132_667923814_n.jpg)
(http://thingist.com/user_uploads/321362382158439961.gif)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Her3tiK on January 14, 2013, 06:47:24 pm
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/14937_543045172373132_667923814_n.jpg)
Stealing.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: ThunderWulf on January 14, 2013, 06:49:51 pm
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/14937_543045172373132_667923814_n.jpg)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBh895KdXAU

Stealing this as well.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Kain on January 14, 2013, 08:43:28 pm
I'm stealing it, too. :D
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Itachirumon on January 14, 2013, 08:46:36 pm
My picks:
  • Chemistry
  • Neurology
  • Physics
  • Astronomy
  • And lastly, Evolution*
* Which is the point of this comic, based on the controversy of Creationism and Evolution (the former being outdated/pseudoscience - which I don't understand why it is still being taught - while the latter is hard-worked, no-bullshit science which had refuted past "theories").

*Throws you over the deadly cliff of death* You go to hell, you go to hell and you die! In this country we beleive in ALCHEMY goddamnit! If it was good enough for the Elric brothers it's good enough for us!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Rabbit of Caerbannog on January 14, 2013, 09:19:12 pm
Not a political cartoon, but you know you're sunk when right-wing rags no longer support you (http://www.mediaite.com/online/ny-papers-blast-nra-vice-presidents-bizarre-rant-wayne-lapierre-is-the-craziest-man-on-earth/):

(http://static01.mediaite.com/med/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/NY-Papers.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on January 14, 2013, 10:42:29 pm
ny daily?  odd their online rag isnt that bad. 
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on January 16, 2013, 01:22:26 am
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/d01682b9742e5b743bdb7490753e5de2/tumblr_mgpfw3wG1R1qbxkjao1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on January 16, 2013, 02:01:38 pm
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/320951_559235680771344_333756416_n.jpg)

(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/65881_524188277612882_1197656900_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Damen on January 17, 2013, 03:59:34 pm
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/01/01/article-2255798-16B79AFD000005DC-311_634x380.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Rabbit of Caerbannog on January 17, 2013, 05:15:48 pm
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/01/01/article-2255798-16B79AFD000005DC-311_634x380.jpg)
Awwww :'(

Well at least you have a job, unlike Rmoney.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lt. Fred on January 17, 2013, 06:41:31 pm
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/01/01/article-2255798-16B79AFD000005DC-311_634x380.jpg)

Brilliant.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on January 20, 2013, 06:54:30 am
(http://www.filibustercartoons.com/comics/20130119.gif)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: chad sexington on January 20, 2013, 07:10:48 am
Old, but related:

(http://i.imgur.com/Vpn0h.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Kristine on January 20, 2013, 01:04:43 pm
(http://www.arcamax.com/newspics/62/6214/621483.gif)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on January 20, 2013, 01:06:45 pm
(http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/486101_496433547089389_409387160_n.jpg) Unsure where to put this one but I do like how it's reminding people that protection is good.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Feral Dog on January 20, 2013, 10:59:34 pm
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/14937_543045172373132_667923814_n.jpg)

I have been trying to explain what's wrong with the NRA's position, because something about it struck me as "not what I'd expect."
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: ironbite on January 21, 2013, 12:18:54 am
Have you figured out the irony of not wanting to live in a police state while having armed guards everywhere yet?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cataclysm on January 21, 2013, 02:05:49 pm
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/550431_520231931340608_256833474_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: KZN02 on January 21, 2013, 03:56:40 pm
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/550431_520231931340608_256833474_n.jpg)
Well, given how the TYT blasts Obama for giving in to Republicans in negotiations and keeping some Bush era stuff in effect ...
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on January 22, 2013, 01:42:43 am
(http://www.vancourier.com/opinion/editorial-cartoon/7829560.bin?size=620x400)

(http://www.vancourier.com/opinion/editorial-cartoon/7851381.bin?size=620x400)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RavynousHunter on January 22, 2013, 03:10:37 am
(http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/486101_496433547089389_409387160_n.jpg) Unsure where to put this one but I do like how it's reminding people that protection is good.

And, I now have a new sigpic.  Modified for size, of course.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on January 22, 2013, 09:38:20 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/bfuMf.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cerim Treascair on January 22, 2013, 09:44:47 pm
Dragon, that is BEAUTIFUL! Where'd you find it?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on January 22, 2013, 09:53:56 pm
Dragon, that is BEAUTIFUL! Where'd you find it?
Here: http://www.recombinantrecords.net/docs/2009-09-Part-of-Nature.html

And here's the website it's from: http://www.stuartmcmillen.com/blog/
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Feral Dog on January 22, 2013, 10:51:44 pm
Have you figured out the irony of not wanting to live in a police state while having armed guards everywhere yet?
Ha, yes. But seriously, the NRA advocating a police state while also not and expecting to be taken seriously was like watching a snake eat itself.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: ThunderWulf on January 23, 2013, 05:12:14 pm
(http://www.vancourier.com/opinion/editorial-cartoon/7829560.bin?size=620x400)

(click to show/hide)

Both fuckin' saved.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Alehksunos on January 24, 2013, 02:41:54 am
(http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/486101_496433547089389_409387160_n.jpg)
Unsure where to put this one but I do like how it's reminding people that protection is good.
I just thought about this:

As this "cartoon" addresses that the typical guy who is reluctant to wear a condom because the joy of feeling your girlfriend's mucus-lined vagina is not there is also a douche who is reluctant to pay money to support someone's life, then what if the child born from not bothering to protect one self experiences "failure to launch" and it's more than eighteen years of supporting someone's life? What if that child becomes the "neckbeard" stereotype and never leaves your home?

Why wearing a condom and using other forms of contraception is important and why the natalist "Every sperm is sacred" movement is full of shit.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on January 25, 2013, 12:16:34 pm
(http://www.edmontonjournal.com/opinion/editorial-cartoons/7811680.bin)

(http://www.montrealgazette.com/opinion/editorial-cartoons/7855597.bin?size=620x400)

(http://www.montrealgazette.com/opinion/editorial-cartoons/7838821.bin?size=620x400)

(http://www.montrealgazette.com/opinion/editorial-cartoons/7775988.bin?size=620x400)

(http://www.montrealgazette.com/opinion/editorial-cartoons/7758190.bin?size=620x400)

(http://www.montrealgazette.com/opinion/editorial-cartoons/7731741.bin?size=620x400)

(http://www.montrealgazette.com/opinion/editorial-cartoons/7643964.bin?size=620x400)

(http://www.timescolonist.com/polopoly_fs/1.49198.1358377334!/fileImage/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_563/raeside-s-view.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: mellenORL on January 25, 2013, 01:01:29 pm

(http://www.montrealgazette.com/opinion/editorial-cartoons/7838821.bin?size=620x400)


This is making a good point, but with skewed data. Canada and the US typically count retail, restaurant and industrial waste along with post consumer garbage for their respective per capita/per person figures. Canada produces much more industrial waste per person because of labor efficiency and types of industry. So, no, Canadians are not garbage-pumpin' wastrels. Americans are,  per capita, the worst garbage per person producers. Oddly, followed by the Japanese, because of a stubborn Japanese cultural trait of store owners basically gift wrapping the fuck out of everything customers buy in a store, but that is mostly paper, and being recycled.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on January 27, 2013, 01:57:42 pm
(http://s3.amazonaws.com/dk-production/images/16630/large/2ndterm.png?1358886764)

(http://s3.amazonaws.com/dk-production/images/15500/lightbox/comic.png?1358177146)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: ThunderWulf on January 27, 2013, 04:00:46 pm
It's sad that I feel like that second one is right on the money.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on January 27, 2013, 04:47:36 pm
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/d459591b02b2f22229ce41d775c0add5/tumblr_mhalp4bH3m1rrppjto1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Material Defender on January 28, 2013, 05:10:36 pm
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/d459591b02b2f22229ce41d775c0add5/tumblr_mhalp4bH3m1rrppjto1_500.jpg)

Saw that on the news a day or two ago. Was pleased, to say the least.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: ThunderWulf on January 30, 2013, 06:41:40 pm
(http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/385223_525137197516748_303642410_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on January 30, 2013, 07:14:53 pm
(http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/385223_525137197516748_303642410_n.jpg)

I love it when they bring that up because Hitler never said it and the closest thing to it was way off, anyways.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: MadCatTLX on January 30, 2013, 08:05:58 pm
(http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/385223_525137197516748_303642410_n.jpg)

I love it when they bring that up because Hitler never said it and the closest thing to it was way off, anyways.

The best part is that he knows exactly where the quote is from and still doesn't care. He says where it comes from right fucking there!

He is blatantly lying about it in the hope that the morons that listen to him don't actually look it up. Of course, they won't look it up, even with how easy it is to google it on their damn phone! They're the kind of people who are somewhere far beyond willfully ignorant. People like this make up lies that they themselves actually believe.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Captain Jack Harkness on January 31, 2013, 05:30:44 am
Gaiz, it says "wall of separation between church and state," not "separation of church and state.  God, learn to fucking read!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on February 01, 2013, 11:50:47 am
(http://i.imgur.com/Qz0gE0q.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/zaJc47l.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/XiJroFo.gif)

(http://i.imgur.com/IDYUO3B.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/dmUnwdh.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/2GNdKOJ.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/IYuEe0L.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on February 01, 2013, 12:13:32 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/WhUF58D.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on February 01, 2013, 12:47:12 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/8GH0S8u.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on February 02, 2013, 06:09:11 am
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/af64592338d99b4d4c9cee2ca5938ae3/tumblr_mh6nskaH7U1rroz62o1_500.gif)

On one hand that is such an old joke that I can't believe people are still making it.

On the other hand some people are still using that claim and think that it is a legimate argument against climate change...
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on February 02, 2013, 08:51:52 am
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/af64592338d99b4d4c9cee2ca5938ae3/tumblr_mh6nskaH7U1rroz62o1_500.gif)

On one hand that is such an old joke that I can't believe people are still making it.

On the other hand some people are still using that claim and think that it is a legimate argument against climate change...
Strange thing in Europe last year the cold snap was global warming
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on February 02, 2013, 03:58:05 pm
This is why I prefer the phrase "Climate Change"

Global Warming, while somewhat accurate, causes a lot of confusion in people who don't understand it (and a few people who do)

Plus, wasn't it originally proposed as Climate Change in the first place?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: SimSim on February 02, 2013, 04:34:27 pm
Inadvertant climate modification was the first term used by scientists, after a warming trend was noticed in the 70s the term global warming was used in the scientific community. Later global warming was the first term to catch on with the public. Climate change isn't a good term to use do to the fact that the Earth's climate has changed naturally. The term to use when talking about human caused climate change is anthropogenic climate change.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Her3tiK on February 02, 2013, 04:51:43 pm
Inadvertant climate modification was the first term used by scientists, after a warming trend was noticed in the 70s the term global warming was used in the scientific community. Later global warming was the first term to catch on with the public. Climate change isn't a good term to use do to the fact that the Earth's climate has changed naturally. The term to use when talking about human caused climate change is anthropogenic climate change.
I don't the the average American can even spell that, never mind understand it.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Auggziliary on February 02, 2013, 04:54:12 pm
Inadvertant climate modification was the first term used by scientists, after a warming trend was noticed in the 70s the term global warming was used in the scientific community. Later global warming was the first term to catch on with the public. Climate change isn't a good term to use do to the fact that the Earth's climate has changed naturally. The term to use when talking about human caused climate change is anthropogenic climate change.
I don't the the average American can even spell that, never mind understand it.

I feel like if you used that word on Free Republic they would be more upset about the "Anthro" part since it's slightly related to evolution.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: mellenORL on February 02, 2013, 05:24:12 pm
It would also be technically correct to call it "Industrial Effect Climate Change". Or, maybe call it "Pollution Effect Climate Change"? How about "Man-Made Atmosphere Damage"?

Or, just go ahead and call it plain out right; "You All Are So Fuckin' Greedy and Cold You Don't Care That Your Grandkids Will Suffer And Die As Long As You Make All The Money You Can Now".

Sorry to rant there, but I've been hearing and learning about world environmental damage and the dire warnings about climate change non-stop since I was a kid....in the 1960s! Seriously, if 45 years worth of trying to educate the public as to how important changing our ways is has yet to convince some people, it does not matter what you call the phenom of damaging this planet. They got theirs, so fuck the rest of us and the planet too.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Kit Walker on February 02, 2013, 06:14:22 pm
The unfortunate thing about the change of nomenclature in the public eye, from "Global Warming" to "Climate Change", is that it can be spun as "First they said it was one thing, now they say it's another!" Luckily, this would only matter in countries so educationally challenged, scientifically illiterate, and overly paranoid that scientific issues about which there is virtually no serious debate become politicized. Surely a first world super power wouldn't be a nation like that. Right?


Right?


I'ma go cry in the shower now.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on February 03, 2013, 01:58:03 am
I prefer climate change because it is a rather accurate term. The climate is becoming more and more extreme, we get colder winters, hotter summers and more powerful storms.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on February 03, 2013, 03:03:44 am
I've always preferred climate change.

Especially since I am guilty of making the 'global warming my ass it's freezing in Georgia' joke.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: KZN02 on February 03, 2013, 08:22:15 pm
Loads of stuff involving Obama's skeet shooting. Not sure where this belongs though ...

(http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/492/134/642.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Osama bin Bambi on February 03, 2013, 08:46:54 pm
Loads of stuff involving Obama's skeet shooting. Not sure where this belongs though ...

(http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/492/134/642.jpg)

Um... are they implying that Obama's not a "person"? As in not human? Because that's pretty fucking racist.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Damen on February 03, 2013, 08:47:54 pm
They probably mean "Democrats." Or "Politicians." :P
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on February 03, 2013, 08:48:40 pm
No I think it's saying the NRA would be all over gun control if it was black people wanting guns (this is true the Black Pantehers wanted guns NRA said we want gun control)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: KZN02 on February 03, 2013, 09:15:58 pm
No I think it's saying the NRA would be all over gun control if it was black people wanting guns (this is true the Black Pantehers wanted guns NRA said we want gun control)
Kind of an ironic use of (subtle?) racism to promote gun control.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Sixth Monarchist on February 04, 2013, 03:34:47 pm
(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2013/2/3/1359918429638/04022013-Martin-Rowson-ga-002.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: worlder on February 04, 2013, 03:59:01 pm
Steve Bell will never make sense.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on February 04, 2013, 04:09:20 pm
What the fuck?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Material Defender on February 04, 2013, 05:30:54 pm
(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2013/2/3/1359918429638/04022013-Martin-Rowson-ga-002.jpg)

... No?

Yes?

Texas?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Auggziliary on February 04, 2013, 05:43:30 pm
(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2013/2/3/1359918429638/04022013-Martin-Rowson-ga-002.jpg)

I kind of get it better now. It says "Storm in a fur cup", so that smiling mug in the background is containing all the clusterfuck in the top.
Also all the pin-striped suit guys have their heads up their ass, which took me a while to see.

Ok nvm this is more confusing.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on February 04, 2013, 07:28:49 pm
I have to admit, I like Steve Bell's cartoons, only because they're so WTF??
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on February 04, 2013, 07:39:34 pm
I have to admit, I like Steve Bell's cartoons, only because they're so WTF??

Yeah, it's like if Salvador Dali decided to become a political cartoonist.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: The Illusive Man on February 04, 2013, 08:09:33 pm
(http://www.akawilliam.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/tea-party-frankenstein.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: starseeker on February 05, 2013, 10:19:49 am
(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2013/2/3/1359918429638/04022013-Martin-Rowson-ga-002.jpg)

To explain, it's about the Tory party, our current ruling party and conservative party, having a stupid row about gay marriage. The more traditionalist parts are against, but the party heads are for it.

No idea about the skeleton though.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: DiscoBerry on February 05, 2013, 11:59:30 am
(http://i937.photobucket.com/albums/ad220/mrtraffic97/rK5A77k_zps12e88b45.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Material Defender on February 05, 2013, 02:43:34 pm
(http://i937.photobucket.com/albums/ad220/mrtraffic97/rK5A77k_zps12e88b45.jpg)

If this child was Catholic or Liberal Protestant, he would have been given the Dunce Cap for that one.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Sandafluffoid on February 05, 2013, 02:54:06 pm
(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2013/2/3/1359918429638/04022013-Martin-Rowson-ga-002.jpg)

To explain, it's about the Tory party, our current ruling party and conservative party, having a stupid row about gay marriage. The more traditionalist parts are against, but the party heads are for it.

No idea about the skeleton though.
The way I interpreted it was Cameron being heckled by his own party (opposition to the bill is mostly coming from the far right of the party who seem not to realise public support for marriage equality is overwhelming). Storm in a cup because the issue is only an issue within the conservative party, and I believe fur cup because, as the giant cat in the second panel indicates, it is primarily caused by fat cats. The skeleton is, as far as I can tell from what it is reading meant to be a representative of the neo-conservative ideology in British politics? As for the Sloth with the olympic torch, I guess it is meant to be about how the olympics failed to boost our economy like the government hoped, although what it is doing here I don't know.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Auggziliary on February 05, 2013, 05:29:51 pm
(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2013/2/3/1359918429638/04022013-Martin-Rowson-ga-002.jpg)

To explain, it's about the Tory party, our current ruling party and conservative party, having a stupid row about gay marriage. The more traditionalist parts are against, but the party heads are for it.

No idea about the skeleton though.
The way I interpreted it was Cameron being heckled by his own party (opposition to the bill is mostly coming from the far right of the party who seem not to realise public support for marriage equality is overwhelming). Storm in a cup because the issue is only an issue within the conservative party, and I believe fur cup because, as the giant cat in the second panel indicates, it is primarily caused by fat cats. The skeleton is, as far as I can tell from what it is reading meant to be a representative of the neo-conservative ideology in British politics? As for the Sloth with the olympic torch, I guess it is meant to be about how the olympics failed to boost our economy like the government hoped, although what it is doing here I don't know.

What about the dragons looking at the fat cat?
I'm still seriously confused by this. I do like how well drawn it is though, and the lack of labels on everything.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Osama bin Bambi on February 05, 2013, 05:39:26 pm
Britain, what the fuck are you putting in your tea, and where can I get some?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: starseeker on February 05, 2013, 07:51:43 pm
Thinking about it, the sloth is probably to do with the fact that the olympics was supposed to have young people be more active, but they're not. The whole 2 hours of PE a week thing also died.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: mellenORL on February 05, 2013, 09:09:40 pm
Those are hadrosaurs (Britain's most common dinosaur fossils) in the background...implying these Tories in a fur cup are going the way of...
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Kit Walker on February 05, 2013, 10:22:14 pm
(http://i937.photobucket.com/albums/ad220/mrtraffic97/rK5A77k_zps12e88b45.jpg)

I love that Mexico is in place of Hell. I find it hilarious for some reason. Also that Heaven and Mexico are located in the relative-but-ultimately-meaningless "up" and "down in relation to the ecliptic.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Auggziliary on February 05, 2013, 10:34:34 pm
(http://i937.photobucket.com/albums/ad220/mrtraffic97/rK5A77k_zps12e88b45.jpg)

I love that Mexico is in place of Hell. I find it hilarious for some reason. Also that Heaven and Mexico are located in the relative-but-ultimately-meaningless "up" and "down in relation to the ecliptic.

It's a very clever way to add in a "Dumb Creationists/conservatives think the world revolves around America" joke.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on February 05, 2013, 10:40:03 pm
(http://i937.photobucket.com/albums/ad220/mrtraffic97/rK5A77k_zps12e88b45.jpg)

I love that Mexico is in place of Hell. I find it hilarious for some reason. Also that Heaven and Mexico are located in the relative-but-ultimately-meaningless "up" and "down in relation to the ecliptic.

It's a very clever way to add in a "Dumb Creationists/conservatives think the world revolves around America" joke.

So if Mexico is Hell in that picture, what would that make Canada?  ;D
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: The Illusive Man on February 06, 2013, 12:41:02 am
(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2013/2/3/1359918429638/04022013-Martin-Rowson-ga-002.jpg)

To explain, it's about the Tory party, our current ruling party and conservative party, having a stupid row about gay marriage. The more traditionalist parts are against, but the party heads are for it.

No idea about the skeleton though.
The way I interpreted it was Cameron being heckled by his own party (opposition to the bill is mostly coming from the far right of the party who seem not to realise public support for marriage equality is overwhelming). Storm in a cup because the issue is only an issue within the conservative party, and I believe fur cup because, as the giant cat in the second panel indicates, it is primarily caused by fat cats. The skeleton is, as far as I can tell from what it is reading meant to be a representative of the neo-conservative ideology in British politics? As for the Sloth with the olympic torch, I guess it is meant to be about how the olympics failed to boost our economy like the government hoped, although what it is doing here I don't know.
I though that was a nail, as in "a want for a nail."
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: chad sexington on February 06, 2013, 01:01:27 am
It's the Growth Sloth, as in economic growth - the Olympics was projected to bring huge benefits to the UK economy, yet strangely enough, they didn't materialise (hence the tiny torch).
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RavynousHunter on February 06, 2013, 01:10:48 am
Steve Bell's cartoons are confusing as fuck, but you gotta admit...that man's got some serious drawing skill.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Julian on February 06, 2013, 05:01:58 am
That was by Martin Rowson, he and Steve Bell both contribute to the same series. (The fact that Cameron's been drawn as a shiny pink condom is very Steve Bell though) I tend to prefer Rowson.

I don't really follow the series, and the fur cup thing was a bit weird (obvious storm in a tea cup metaphor aside), but I still see it a bit like they're fleas on the sloth. It was a bit telling that the fat cats were walking away from the sloth too.

The keys(?) in the pail have got me beat. Not being able to read the labels doesn't help. The skeleton in the closet is that Tony Blair ("New" Labour, who was an appalling neocon moronic twat, who ironically headed up the left wing party), and he tried to modernise his party etc. Cameron's trying to bring the whole "New Labour" modernisation/detoxification of his party, but it always was a sham, and this is just pointing out their true colours.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cartoon/2013/feb/03/gay-marriage-debate (http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cartoon/2013/feb/03/gay-marriage-debate)

the dinosaur is a triple-dip diplodocus...
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cartoon/2013/jan/25/martin-rowson-britain-gdp-cartoon (http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cartoon/2013/jan/25/martin-rowson-britain-gdp-cartoon)

The Olympics always were going to be an anomaly and the tiny spike in GDP for that quarter was only ever going to turn the double dip recession into a triple dip one, and the death spiral from Osborne's policy has only just begun. He turned the recovery he inherited from Labour into a double dip recession, the triple-dip is as mentioned, and the worst of his policies haven't really been implemented yet. It's going to get really nasty indeed. Even the IMF, OECD and others think he's completely lost his marbles.

(Oh and there's a furry tea cup in the background there too.) --and the disappearing fat cats again.

Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Julian on February 06, 2013, 05:21:11 am
Just went back through a year of his stuff (in thumbnails...) the earliest reference to a fur cup I could find is this one, and it's got a Starbucks logo on it, and is due to their exceptional tax "avoidance". Sods me why it's furry, or if that's the original context. The fact it's there and innocently whistling with faux nonchalance is a lovely touch, particularly with the apocalypse going on around. Nothing to do with me...

(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/maps_and_graphs/2012/12/7/1354904931133/Martin-Rowson-8.12.12-002.jpg)

The triple A thing is obvious. Not sure who's been left for dead/killed, or if that's Clegg cowering behind Cameron. Sods me why Osborne's tying the bills shoes together given it's his nasty brute of a behemoth in the first place. He should've been handing it AK47's and lists of children to shoot.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Julian on February 06, 2013, 05:27:12 am
Dunno if this one's been posted before, but it's a thing of beauty... Murdoch's immediately recognisable in all his evilness, and Cameron really is his bird-brained little pet. The lining of the tray he's putting in is the Levenson report into phone hacking, News Ltd, plurality, the press overstepping their bounds, the abuse of the 4th Estate privilege, etc. And yes, he wants his little budgie to shit all over it...

(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2012/12/1/1354320013771/01.12.12-Martin-Rowson-on-004.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: chad sexington on February 06, 2013, 09:09:53 am
Fur cup = fuck up.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on February 06, 2013, 11:43:13 am
(http://media.zenfs.com/en_us/News/ucomics.com/bor130201.gif)

Get it?

It is funny because women serving in the US. military suffer often from sexual harassment and are more likely to be raped by their comrades than get injured in combat.

Now I made myself sad.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on February 06, 2013, 11:48:54 am
Credit to the cartoonist for at least getting burgas rights
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on February 06, 2013, 12:56:45 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/RtbMXqt.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on February 06, 2013, 01:34:42 pm
Who in their right mind would think that the dental floss costume would look good on anyone!? :|

Oh, that's right, pervy straight men in the comic book industry :P
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Sixth Monarchist on February 06, 2013, 02:43:18 pm
Oh, pish. That's just crazy talk.

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on February 06, 2013, 06:16:50 pm
where are her lower legs
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Jack Mann on February 06, 2013, 07:36:06 pm
Kefka, feet are haaaarrrrd.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on February 06, 2013, 07:55:31 pm
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/603914_10151495840571081_1657180308_n.jpg)

It's missing one thing, he made it ok to demonize the poor.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on February 06, 2013, 08:00:20 pm
Fun fact his foreign policy moved to the left after seeing a movie
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Captain Jack Harkness on February 07, 2013, 04:47:29 am
where are her lower legs

Just by looking at it, I'm pretty sure one leg is stretched backwards, and the other one has a bent knee.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Sylvana on February 07, 2013, 05:46:10 am
where are her lower legs

Just by looking at it, I'm pretty sure one leg is stretched backwards, and the other one has a bent knee.

Actually, given that there is no muscular tension around the thighs and knee, she must be a double amputee, especially that right leg of hers. If her legs were behind her being hidden, you would be able to see the way they distort the mussels of the upper thigh.

Short version, the artist is being obviously lazy. You can see where he wanted to draw the lower legs, but he decided not to.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lt. Fred on February 07, 2013, 06:22:15 am
Fun fact his foreign policy moved to the left after seeing a movie

Which movie?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on February 07, 2013, 06:56:03 am
Day after tomorrow (the nuke nott flood version)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Meshakhad on February 07, 2013, 12:12:33 pm
Day after tomorrow (the nuke nott flood version)

It was just called The Day After.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: ScrappyB on February 08, 2013, 02:46:23 am
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/603914_10151495840571081_1657180308_n.jpg)

It's missing one thing, he made it ok to demonize the poor.

This illustrates one of my pet peeves about politicians and the election process. People seem to care more about bullshit bonhomie than the issues or what the person actually DOES. That's how we get morons like Bush in the White House.

Regan somehow gets a pass because he smiled a lot, acted like everyone's favorite granddad, said patriotic crap and generally distracted people from the fact his policies were fucking them over seven ways from Sunday. Did you know there's actually a fucking organized effort to name pretty much anything and everything after that two-faced douchebag?

http://www.aolnews.com/2010/02/01/admirers-cant-get-enough-of-all-things-named-reagan

I don't give a shit if a politician is likeable or is someone you'd want to sit down and have a beer with. It's not some kind of high school popularity contest. I want someone intelligent who understands the issues and knows when to hold fast and when to compromise.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Itachirumon on February 08, 2013, 02:51:02 am
Quote
I don't give a shit if a politician is likeable or is someone you'd want to sit down and have a beer with. It's not some kind of high school popularity contest. I want someone intelligent who understands the issues and knows when to hold fast and when to compromise.

Thank, fucking, you.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on February 08, 2013, 07:13:51 am
I think it has to do with empathy.  I do think Romney had zero empathy but i think Reagan did too
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Rabbit of Caerbannog on February 08, 2013, 01:04:14 pm
I think it has to do with empathy.  I do think Romney had zero empathy but i think Reagan did too
Even Ronnie got it into his skull that gay folks were actual human beings when his friend Rock Hudson was dying. So in terms of empathy, point goes to Reagan on that.

He was still a race-baiting, classist, war criminal though.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on February 14, 2013, 07:52:21 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/yDRWYSA.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Sylvana on February 15, 2013, 03:52:24 am
As an outsider, I love the political cartoons of the animals that represent the parties.
It is like those animals were chosen by political cartoonists. The elephant always looks fat, old and angry, while the donkey always looks confused and ineffectual.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Kit Walker on February 15, 2013, 07:34:02 am
As an outsider, I love the political cartoons of the animals that represent the parties.
It is like those animals were chosen by political cartoonists. The elephant always looks fat, old and angry, while the donkey always looks confused and ineffectual.

They were, actually. Well, Andrew Jackson was called a Jackass by his opponents so he made the donkey a campaign symbol and it happened to stick, but political cartoons helped that and definitely were the origins of the elephant.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on February 15, 2013, 07:49:56 am
The elephant came from Thomas Nast where a donkey traps an elephant
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on February 15, 2013, 02:57:12 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/KY7S4tx.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Sixth Monarchist on February 15, 2013, 05:34:40 pm
...because single-dip recession is just so lame and American.

(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2013/1/25/1359153755026/Martin-Rowson-cartoon-26.-003.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on February 15, 2013, 05:39:09 pm
...because single-dip recession is just so lame and American.

(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2013/1/25/1359153755026/Martin-Rowson-cartoon-26.-003.jpg)

Again I ask... WTF?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Thejebusfire on February 16, 2013, 01:31:47 am
(http://media.spokesman.com/photos/2012/06/26/bennett_t470.jpg?84974f3f373deb0dda0f75a22ddd9b7d3a332b26)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cerim Treascair on February 16, 2013, 02:49:02 am
just for that, Jebus...

"What are you gonna do, bleed on me?"
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Itachirumon on February 16, 2013, 04:23:35 am
just for that, Jebus...

"What are you gonna do, bleed on me?"

My blood is black...
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: ironbite on February 16, 2013, 12:47:12 pm
Oh so it's a demon eh?

Ironbite-*shoots it with a shotgun of rocksalt and holy water*
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on February 16, 2013, 12:58:41 pm
That was either reference to Soul eater or a serious health problem.


I suggest going to the doctor. And you might want to notify all your sexual partners in case that is contagious.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RinellaWasHere on February 16, 2013, 02:53:22 pm
just for that, Jebus...

"What are you gonna do, bleed on me?"

My blood is black...

Do the doors open inward?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Itachirumon on February 16, 2013, 07:16:57 pm
That was either reference to Soul eater or a serious health problem.


I suggest going to the doctor. And you might want to notify all your sexual partners in case that is contagious.

The only doctor I know has a giant bolt through his skull and won't shut the fuck up about it being too noisy - he scares me, he also reminds me of myself uncomfortably. (Yes, it was a soul eater reference)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on February 17, 2013, 12:10:13 am
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/599964_487011448003223_656627672_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Kristine on February 17, 2013, 12:49:24 am
(http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/69595_488080551227629_1978758883_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: The Prophet Mohammed (PBUM) on February 17, 2013, 05:48:14 am
It's been too long since we've had a Steve Bell cartoon.

(http://oi49.tinypic.com/2vcb8t1.jpg)

This one's about Netanyahu and Ruper Murdoch so it should make sense to the American readers here.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Captain Jack Harkness on February 17, 2013, 06:30:06 am
It's been too long since we've had a Steve Bell cartoon.

(http://oi49.tinypic.com/2vcb8t1.jpg)

This one's about Netanyahu and Ruper Murdoch so it should make sense to the American readers here.

So would you mind explaining this?  All I see is surreal art and confusing dialog.  This is something about...anti-semitism or whatever, right?  Like...who are these weirdly drawn...peoples?

Wait, I just saw your comment.  So...um...is the bear being hit with a stick representative of Palestine or...something?  Even knowing who these folks are supposed to be, I'm er...confused a bit.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: chad sexington on February 17, 2013, 09:52:43 am
Is that a Sooty puppet?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: FirsthandTuna on February 17, 2013, 10:42:29 am
It's been too long since we've had a Steve Bell cartoon.

(http://oi49.tinypic.com/2vcb8t1.jpg)

This one's about Netanyahu and Ruper Murdoch so it should make sense to the American readers here.

...Nope.

Something about Murdoch not knowing what antisemitism is and bashing Netanyahu's hand puppet? I can't tell if this comic doesn't make much sense or if I live under a rock.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on February 17, 2013, 10:50:32 am
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/404907_553853457966306_376369621_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: The Prophet Mohammed (PBUM) on February 17, 2013, 12:41:01 pm
It's been too long since we've had a Steve Bell cartoon.

(http://oi49.tinypic.com/2vcb8t1.jpg)

This one's about Netanyahu and Ruper Murdoch so it should make sense to the American readers here.

...Nope.

Something about Murdoch not knowing what antisemitism is and bashing Netanyahu's hand puppet? I can't tell if this comic doesn't make much sense or if I live under a rock.

How about this one?

(http://oi49.tinypic.com/35l6zyc.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Osama bin Bambi on February 17, 2013, 01:14:17 pm
I'm not ready for this much confusion in the morning. Not before my coffee.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Rabbit of Caerbannog on February 17, 2013, 01:28:53 pm
I'm not ready for this much confusion in the morning. Not before my coffee.
Not even after my coffee...
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Kristine on February 17, 2013, 04:33:33 pm
(http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/555903_514762138589863_89935462_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on February 17, 2013, 04:37:22 pm
(http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/555903_514762138589863_89935462_n.jpg)

Do you have any idea how insulting that is?  Palpatine never orchestrated a massive, systematic cover-up of sex abuse cases.  I think you owe the Emperor an apology.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: ThunderWulf on February 17, 2013, 04:42:19 pm
(http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/66193_393199077443180_209971179_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Auggziliary on February 17, 2013, 04:54:23 pm
(http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/66193_393199077443180_209971179_n.jpg)

(http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/wp-content/blogs.dir/445/files/2012/04/i-160faa463cf9b22a8a624c5c1597b4a4-2_21_450_vid_blueman.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on February 17, 2013, 05:13:16 pm
That was a weird case that guy who drank colloidal silver
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Auggziliary on February 17, 2013, 05:25:09 pm
Oh I thought it was that genetic trait. The Fugate family had it:

(http://a.abcnews.com/images/Health/ht_fugate_family_blue_people_ll_120217_wg.jpg)

The reason they had it was because of inbreeding, so the recessive gene for blue skin came out.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on February 17, 2013, 07:46:03 pm
(http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/555903_514762138589863_89935462_n.jpg)

Do you have any idea how insulting that is?  Palpatine never orchestrated a massive, systematic cover-up of sex abuse cases.  I think you owe the Emperor an apology.

As a card carrying member of the Palpatine fan club, THANK YOU!!!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: DiscoBerry on February 17, 2013, 08:30:52 pm
Oh I thought it was that genetic trait. The Fugate family had it:

(http://a.abcnews.com/images/Health/ht_fugate_family_blue_people_ll_120217_wg.jpg)

The reason they had it was because of inbreeding, so the recessive gene for blue skin came out.

This freaks me out because I had a Sargent in the army who had silvery-blue skin.  The rumor was it was caused by anemia. 
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on February 17, 2013, 08:59:32 pm
Oh I thought it was that genetic trait. The Fugate family had it:

(http://a.abcnews.com/images/Health/ht_fugate_family_blue_people_ll_120217_wg.jpg)

The reason they had it was because of inbreeding, so the recessive gene for blue skin came out.

This freaks me out because I had a Sargent in the army who had silvery-blue skin.  The rumor was it was caused by anemia.

Cyanosis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyanosis)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Veras on February 17, 2013, 10:02:23 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/r6JneNv.png?1?2536)

EDIT:  Oops.  Fixed.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Material Defender on February 17, 2013, 10:03:29 pm
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/404907_553853457966306_376369621_n.jpg)

"You will not crucify man on a cross of Gold!"
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on February 17, 2013, 10:25:06 pm
(https://mail-attachment.googleusercontent.com/attachment/u/0/?ui=2&ik=48aa461537&view=att&th=13ce8e98bdf988c5&attid=0.1&disp=inline&safe=1&zw&saduie=AG9B_P-aU87PJCsipGzRO1rziJTI&sadet=1361138536758&sads=uCxK4RJee9GOS8vRFv3Ehi3sy0A&sadssc=1)

Yeah, you can't directly link to images from mail attachments.  You're gonna have to rehost it.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on February 19, 2013, 05:20:00 am
(http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/555903_514762138589863_89935462_n.jpg)

(http://wp.patheos.com.s3.amazonaws.com/blogs/exploringourmatrix/files/2013/02/quit-the-papacy.png)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Julian on February 19, 2013, 05:54:55 am
...because single-dip recession is just so lame and American.

(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2013/1/25/1359153755026/Martin-Rowson-cartoon-26.-003.jpg)

Again I ask... WTF?
OK, let's see...

Fur cup = fuck up (thanks whomever pointed that out to me), and is a reference to Starbucks paying less than 1% tax on billions of profits, when there is a huge problem with budget deficits. It's a running thing.

The fat cats in business suits are the bankers.

The little twat that's been trodden on is Osborne, who's meant to be chancellor of the exchequer and is meant to hand down sane budgets and be in charge of fiscal policy, but he's a "strategy" based extremist vicious toady weasel, who essentially waging war on anyone earning less than 100K(pounds) a year. The thing on his arm that looks like a matador's cape is a sloth. Yes, there's symbolism for that too, but can't be assed typing it. He's also wearing toff's clothing.

The guy in the hole in the ground is Nick Clegg. No time to talk about what a self-deluded asswipe he is.

The triple dip recession is:
- The great recession.
- Osborne fucking up Labour's recovery when the twats were voted in (making a double dip recession.) Legitimate economic term for exactly this. (in recession, out of recession but not back to normal, back in recession.)
- Triple dip recession. The Olympics put a blip in the quarterly figures. A recession is two consecutive quarters of negative growth. The Olympics caused a quarter of positive growth. Given Osborne's policies are engineering a death spiral that has barely begun to kick in, a triple dip recession was always going to be the thing that followed the Olympics.

Why they had to do a three headed dinosaur, not sure. Dinosaurs are huge and ponderous and most likely uncontrollable, so that's good, and Osborne was undoubtedly trying to do just that before he got stepped on. And the look on the dinosaur's face? Well he just stepped in shit didn't he. There's also a trampled AAA rating, and the broom is probably referring to one of the Tory policies of trying to kill red tape, pretend they're starting over, or just about any one of their "reforms" which are ill-advised and frankly malicious. They've used it a few times, so I couldn't say off the top of my head which one Rawson's referring to.

No idea who the snake is.

Not going to start on Cameron. (The shiny pink git)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on February 19, 2013, 06:01:56 am
Thank you for the translation. Sometimes it is preferable to have things in the cartoon tagged with their names. Especially when they are such obscure references that don't make sense to anyone who hasn't read the comic since it's creation (and followed the local news religiously.)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Julian on February 19, 2013, 06:35:41 am
I'm sure I'm still missing loads of stuff.

(Also just wondering if Osborne got trodden on doing a Tarzan elephant call (for the TDD), or if I'm reading too much into it.)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: chad sexington on February 19, 2013, 07:54:45 am
Why they had to do a three headed dinosaur, not sure.

I assume it's just a visual pun: The Triple Dip(lodocus) Recession.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on February 19, 2013, 04:44:21 pm
(http://coolpicsbro.com/fs/i/2012/06/05/8043a9d678ef8561c3fb31f5440f2a.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lt. Fred on February 20, 2013, 02:55:24 am
Pure genius.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on February 20, 2013, 12:28:33 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/4s6B4Iy.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Material Defender on February 20, 2013, 02:10:00 pm
(http://coolpicsbro.com/fs/i/2012/06/05/8043a9d678ef8561c3fb31f5440f2a.jpg)

(http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/001/582/picard-facepalm.jpg?1240934151)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: ironbite on February 21, 2013, 12:08:31 am
What's so face-palm worthy about that?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Thejebusfire on February 21, 2013, 01:05:34 am
(http://i.imgur.com/4s6B4Iy.jpg)

Did the person in the photo actually make this?
Regaurdless, that's kinda sad.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Material Defender on February 21, 2013, 01:55:57 am
What's so face-palm worthy about that?

I'd need my dad handy to adequately explain it in economic terms.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: StallChaser on February 22, 2013, 07:33:56 am
What's so face-palm worthy about that?

I'd need my dad handy to adequately explain it in economic terms.

In other words, you don't know.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Material Defender on February 22, 2013, 08:55:05 am
What's so face-palm worthy about that?

I'd need my dad handy to adequately explain it in economic terms.

In other words, you don't know.

I do know, I don't know it in terms I can adequately defend from in an argument. Think "I know, but I don't want to start an argument about it."
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on February 22, 2013, 09:39:51 am
*casually puts up another trans* oriented cartoon and wonders if it will have as much controversy as the last one*

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/28fc36efdf78f314621f541e73f20046/tumblr_midb37AfSq1qkivpqo1_500.png)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Thejebusfire on February 23, 2013, 01:07:08 am
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/52756459bcb162659c2ede46d475a9cd/tumblr_minje8jEsM1rpzst1o1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Dakota Bob on February 23, 2013, 08:09:24 am
@Shepard: so the ideal trans person is Ash Ketchum?
@thejebusfire: perfectly illustrates why I don't take pro-life activists seriously anymore.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: mellenORL on February 23, 2013, 10:49:30 am
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/52756459bcb162659c2ede46d475a9cd/tumblr_minje8jEsM1rpzst1o1_500.jpg)

This one just brings tears to my eyes, it is so spot on.

Single women and mothers are about the most dumped on segment of the population. Damned if they do, damned if they don't. Way to go, fundies, kick 'em when they're down and don't stop kicking 'em, ever, cause jeezuz and holey fuckedup babble. Cheaper to bitch about it than actually do something pro-active like sponsor free contraceptives or offer meaningful prenatal care and adoption programs, or job training and neonatal support...cuz government will do that, and then the fundies still have their bitching points on taxes.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: ScrappyB on February 23, 2013, 04:51:24 pm
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/52756459bcb162659c2ede46d475a9cd/tumblr_minje8jEsM1rpzst1o1_500.jpg)

This one just brings tears to my eyes, it is so spot on.

Single women and mothers are about the most dumped on segment of the population. Damned if they do, damned if they don't. Way to go, fundies, kick 'em when they're down and don't stop kicking 'em, ever, cause jeezuz and holey fuckedup babble. Cheaper to bitch about it than actually do something pro-active like sponsor free contraceptives or offer meaningful prenatal care and adoption programs, or job training and neonatal support...cuz government will do that, and then the fundies still have their bitching points on taxes.

Yup. Fundies complain about birth control, they complain about abortion, and if she opts to have the kid, they complain about having to help support it. Because it's not about babies. It's really about punishing women for daring to have sex.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: worlder on February 23, 2013, 04:59:21 pm
Well if I may offer a devil's advocate statement.

<deviladvocate>

"She could try to marry someone with a decent pay. Is that not an option that's on the table?"

</deviladvocate>

I know there is some counter argument to that.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Osama bin Bambi on February 23, 2013, 05:05:37 pm
Well if I may offer a devil's advocate statement.

<deviladvocate>

"She could try to marry someone with a decent pay. Is that not an option that's on the table?"

</deviladvocate>

I know there is some counter argument to that.

And then, when she does marry someone with a good, steady source of income...

"You're just a gold-digging slut!"

You just can't win with these people.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Captain Jack Harkness on February 23, 2013, 05:42:51 pm
Well if I may offer a devil's advocate statement.

<deviladvocate>

"She could try to marry someone with a decent pay. Is that not an option that's on the table?"

</deviladvocate>

I know there is some counter argument to that.

And then, when she does marry someone with a good, steady source of income...

"You're just a gold-digging slut!"

You just can't win with these people.

You know, because of the cultural impact of the phrase "Catch 22," I kinda want to read the book of the same name.  Of course, you COULD argue that those who are saying stupid shit should just be ignored as much as possible.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Auggziliary on February 23, 2013, 06:40:29 pm
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/52756459bcb162659c2ede46d475a9cd/tumblr_minje8jEsM1rpzst1o1_500.jpg)

This one just brings tears to my eyes, it is so spot on.

Single women and mothers are about the most dumped on segment of the population. Damned if they do, damned if they don't. Way to go, fundies, kick 'em when they're down and don't stop kicking 'em, ever, cause jeezuz and holey fuckedup babble. Cheaper to bitch about it than actually do something pro-active like sponsor free contraceptives or offer meaningful prenatal care and adoption programs, or job training and neonatal support...cuz government will do that, and then the fundies still have their bitching points on taxes.

Yup. Fundies complain about birth control, they complain about abortion, and if she opts to have the kid, they complain about having to help support it. Because it's not about babies. It's really about punishing women for daring to have sex.

And not the men, since men having sex is natural, and women are instinctively awesome mothers who always love babies and don't need any money to raise them cuz family values.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cataclysm on February 23, 2013, 07:09:28 pm
I'm pretty sure most anti-choicers want to force men to take care of unwanted children as well.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Auggziliary on February 23, 2013, 07:12:20 pm
I'm pretty sure most anti-choicers want to force men to take care of unwanted children as well.

I've never heard that from the more crazy ones. In my experience, the more moderate the pro-lifer is the more responsibility they put on the father.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on February 23, 2013, 08:28:01 pm
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/311356_129926533776960_877515369_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on February 23, 2013, 09:36:17 pm
@Shepard: so the ideal trans person is Ash Ketchum?
@thejebusfire: perfectly illustrates why I don't take pro-life activists seriously anymore.

Only by looks, I suppose.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lt. Fred on February 23, 2013, 09:46:28 pm
That's quite a propaganda success: someone willing not only to endure exploitation but brag about it.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on February 24, 2013, 12:09:31 am
Also Im pretty sure the guy gets hand outs and btw no days off that's illegal
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on February 24, 2013, 12:26:13 am
Also Im pretty sure the guy gets hand outs and btw no days off that's illegal

1. If it's true he's a former Marine, then he could get healthcare through the VA.
2. It said he hasn't had 4 consecutive days off, so he may have had a day off here and there, but not four days in a row.

That's quite a propaganda success: someone willing not only to endure exploitation but brag about it.
That's because here in America, we're special kind of stupid. 

Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: StallChaser on February 24, 2013, 02:51:41 am
You know, because of the cultural impact of the phrase "Catch 22," I kinda want to read the book of the same name.  Of course, you COULD argue that those who are saying stupid shit should just be ignored as much as possible.

The book is hilarious.  For someone who has never been involved with the military, because it is so absurd.  For someone who has, because it is so accurate.  Both are, of course, right.


Catch 22 meant that you could get out of a deployment if you're insane, but you have to actually apply for it before you can leave.  Applying for it is an act of sanity (self-preservation), so it automatically disqualifies you.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on February 24, 2013, 10:15:20 am
(http://i.imgur.com/kTiuWzK.png)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on February 24, 2013, 10:22:04 am
So... Is that a parody or not?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on February 24, 2013, 10:37:03 am
I doubt it.  These are probably actual arguments he's heard.

Here's more of the same.

(http://i.imgur.com/N61Lawk.png)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on February 24, 2013, 11:06:06 am
Well, I see nothing wrong with 6, 5 and 1. That is someone can say those staments and not be lying.

The second comic though makes several good points. I mean it brings up several BAD points that people use.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: R. U. Sirius on February 24, 2013, 11:16:25 am
I agree with your comment on the racism cartoon, askold, but a corolary (sp?) to 5 should be that you should be willing to examine your actions and thoughts when someone points out that something you say or do is UNintentionally racist.

But then, that wouldn't fit in a cartoon panel.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on February 24, 2013, 11:31:13 am
Well, I see nothing wrong with 6, 5 and 1. That is someone can say those staments and not be lying.

The second comic though makes several good points. I mean it brings up several BAD points that people use.

Of course, those are often used by people trying to justify their racism, whether intentional or not.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on February 24, 2013, 12:52:50 pm
R.U.Sirius: Good point.

DD: Another good point, I agree with that. Although the sentences in themselves aren't all bad.

Also about number 10. This is sligthy off but there is one similar claim that I absolutely hate. Some racist actually refer to it as "slaveship-tar-argument." When justifying why everyone should be donating money to Africa people say it is because our ancestor have mistreated and slaved africans, except that since Finns didn't participate in slavery (enslaving africans that is.) in fact our country didn't exist. Instead their claim is based on the fact that as part of Sweden our ancestors shipped most of the tar used in european ships. Therefore the ships that took slaves from africa had 'Finnish' tar and THAT is why we should help africa.

a) Shouldn't we help them because there are people who need help, and helping them is a nice thing. Christian thing even if you are into that.

b) I accept consequences for my own anctions and will try to make right if I did some wrongs. I feel shame for the wrongs done by my country and agree that Finland as a country should make right the wrongs she has done. I will even accept the argument that I bear some responsibility to compensate for crimes my ancestors have done. But this is taking thigns too far.

c) In general I hate the argument that all white people are somehow responsible for crimes done by other white people. I mean if someone claims that because one member of ethnic group A is a drug dealer they all must be then people would agree that this is racit.

If someone would claim that since members of ethnic group A are statisically more likely to go to jail, then they should all be suspected as criminals untill proven otherwise, wouldn't you agree that this is racist.

I just think that this claim is similar.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Jack Mann on February 24, 2013, 01:24:00 pm
R.U.Sirius: Good point.

DD: Another good point, I agree with that. Although the sentences in themselves aren't all bad.

Also about number 10. This is sligthy off but there is one similar claim that I absolutely hate. Some racist actually refer to it as "slaveship-tar-argument." When justifying why everyone should be donating money to Africa people say it is because our ancestor have mistreated and slaved africans, except that since Finns didn't participate in slavery (enslaving africans that is.) in fact our country didn't exist. Instead their claim is based on the fact that as part of Sweden our ancestors shipped most of the tar used in european ships. Therefore the ships that took slaves from africa had 'Finnish' tar and THAT is why we should help africa.

a) Shouldn't we help them because there are people who need help, and helping them is a nice thing. Christian thing even if you are into that.

b) I accept consequences for my own anctions and will try to make right if I did some wrongs. I feel shame for the wrongs done by my country and agree that Finland as a country should make right the wrongs she has done. I will even accept the argument that I bear some responsibility to compensate for crimes my ancestors have done. But this is taking thigns too far.

c) In general I hate the argument that all white people are somehow responsible for crimes done by other white people. I mean if someone claims that because one member of ethnic group A is a drug dealer they all must be then people would agree that this is racit.

If someone would claim that since members of ethnic group A are statisically more likely to go to jail, then they should all be suspected as criminals untill proven otherwise, wouldn't you agree that this is racist.

I just think that this claim is similar.

I don't hold anyone alive today responsible for atrocities that happened in the long past.  But I agree that we should help people because they need help.  If they're still suffering from the injustices of the past, we should try to correct that, not because we had anything to do with it, but because it's the right thing to do.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on February 24, 2013, 01:48:43 pm
R.U.Sirius: Good point.

DD: Another good point, I agree with that. Although the sentences in themselves aren't all bad.

Also about number 10. This is sligthy off but there is one similar claim that I absolutely hate. Some racist actually refer to it as "slaveship-tar-argument." When justifying why everyone should be donating money to Africa people say it is because our ancestor have mistreated and slaved africans, except that since Finns didn't participate in slavery (enslaving africans that is.) in fact our country didn't exist. Instead their claim is based on the fact that as part of Sweden our ancestors shipped most of the tar used in european ships. Therefore the ships that took slaves from africa had 'Finnish' tar and THAT is why we should help africa.

a) Shouldn't we help them because there are people who need help, and helping them is a nice thing. Christian thing even if you are into that.

b) I accept consequences for my own anctions and will try to make right if I did some wrongs. I feel shame for the wrongs done by my country and agree that Finland as a country should make right the wrongs she has done. I will even accept the argument that I bear some responsibility to compensate for crimes my ancestors have done. But this is taking thigns too far.

c) In general I hate the argument that all white people are somehow responsible for crimes done by other white people. I mean if someone claims that because one member of ethnic group A is a drug dealer they all must be then people would agree that this is racit.

If someone would claim that since members of ethnic group A are statisically more likely to go to jail, then they should all be suspected as criminals untill proven otherwise, wouldn't you agree that this is racist.

I just think that this claim is similar.

I don't hold anyone alive today responsible for atrocities that happened in the long past.  But I agree that we should help people because they need help.  If they're still suffering from the injustices of the past, we should try to correct that, not because we had anything to do with it, but because it's the right thing to do.
This although the thing is oftentimes the white people who came after still benefit also whites who came after slavery still perpetuated Jim Crow
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Osama bin Bambi on February 24, 2013, 05:50:24 pm
I put it under spoilers because of its size.

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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Rabbit of Caerbannog on February 24, 2013, 07:08:08 pm
I put it under spoilers because of its size.

(click to show/hide)
Law eagles are the greatest thing ever.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: R. U. Sirius on February 24, 2013, 08:09:06 pm
Okay, while I agree that the term "friendzone" is overused as fuck and often a euphemism for "I can't get a girl to sleep with me to save my life", I think that those who come down this hard against it often go to the opposite extreme.

All other issues aside, it's frustrating and painful when you develop feelings for someone, especially a friend, only to be told that your feelings aren't returned, and I feel that "anti-FZers" often end up communicating the message that it's wrong to even be disappointed by such things.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Caitshidhe on February 24, 2013, 08:16:39 pm
It seems like the bulk of the people who use the term 'friendzone' at all don't understand one single simple fact:

The only reason a girl or woman ever needs to have for not wanting to date or have sex with someone is, 'I DON'T WANT TO.' This applies to guys, as well. If you don't want to, you don't want to, and you don't owe anybody an explanation unless you feel like giving them one.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Kit Walker on February 24, 2013, 10:47:34 pm
I dislike that the friendzone asshole is portrayed as a Brony. Nerds in general; be they Whovians, Trekkies, Marvel Zombies, DC Nationals, or Bronies; have the tendency to fall in to the "nice guy" asshole trap. I just think bronies get more tarred with one big brush than any of those other groups.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Jack Mann on February 24, 2013, 11:06:54 pm
There's one MLP reference in a single panel.  He's also a Sonic the Hedgehog fan and... a Linux nerd?  Whatever the fedora's supposed to represent.  I think he was more meant to be a generic nerd.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Kit Walker on February 24, 2013, 11:20:41 pm
There's one MLP reference in a single panel.  He's also a Sonic the Hedgehog fan and... a Linux nerd?  Whatever the fedora's supposed to represent.  I think he was more meant to be a generic nerd.

Well, now I look like an asshole. I didn't examine the hat except for when I saw there was writing on it.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Jack Mann on February 25, 2013, 12:17:46 am
Eh, we've all shot off our mouth a bit too quick at one time or other.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: DiscoBerry on February 25, 2013, 10:27:29 am
(http://i937.photobucket.com/albums/ad220/mrtraffic97/conspiracy_news1_zpsd504172d.gif)
(http://i937.photobucket.com/albums/ad220/mrtraffic97/conspiracy_news2_zps840be5a1.gif)
(http://i937.photobucket.com/albums/ad220/mrtraffic97/conspiracy_news3_zpse4cae8f6.gif)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Material Defender on February 25, 2013, 11:36:36 am
I dislike that the friendzone asshole is portrayed as a Brony. Nerds in general; be they Whovians, Trekkies, Marvel Zombies, DC Nationals, or Bronies; have the tendency to fall in to the "nice guy" asshole trap. I just think bronies get more tarred with one big brush than any of those other groups.

I think it's primarily because A: MLP is about love and tolerance, but not worrying about friendships/not. B: It's a girls show.

Though he does seem like a general Nice Guy, his first shirt seems to indicate it.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RinellaWasHere on February 25, 2013, 12:02:17 pm
I've said it before, and I'll say it again- being nice to a girl does not entitle you to sex, and if that's all you wanted you were never nice to begin with.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on February 25, 2013, 01:13:01 pm
Does this count?

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/10361cfb40541864cb99b0c3157b41ae/tumblr_mioue7k9VZ1qzsnxyo1_500.jpg)

Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Material Defender on February 25, 2013, 01:40:24 pm
Does this count?

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/10361cfb40541864cb99b0c3157b41ae/tumblr_mioue7k9VZ1qzsnxyo1_500.jpg)

I thought Joe biden got Fact checked as to have actually voted for them?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on February 25, 2013, 01:48:42 pm
I remember that, too.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Sixth Monarchist on February 25, 2013, 04:07:42 pm
So (http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2013/feb/25/pound-falls-low-markets-uk-economy-aaa)... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSLlZh9yelk)

(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2013/2/24/1361743630869/24.02.13-Martin-Rowson-on-003.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on February 25, 2013, 04:38:47 pm
Stop bringing up facts into a political debate! That is, so against rules.


Still even if Biden is a hypocrite, the rest of the argument was good.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on February 25, 2013, 04:45:16 pm
although voting for Iraq was based on misleading info ::)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Captain Jack Harkness on February 26, 2013, 12:42:01 am
(http://i.imgur.com/kTiuWzK.png)

I thought this was "Best Political Cartoons," not "Bash On Whitey."
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on February 26, 2013, 12:45:14 am
(http://i937.photobucket.com/albums/ad220/mrtraffic97/conspiracy_news1_zpsd504172d.gif)
(http://i937.photobucket.com/albums/ad220/mrtraffic97/conspiracy_news2_zps840be5a1.gif)
(http://i937.photobucket.com/albums/ad220/mrtraffic97/conspiracy_news3_zpse4cae8f6.gif)

Is this referencing Loosechange?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on February 26, 2013, 12:47:43 am
@B-Man

...Seriously?  You're going there?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Captain Jack Harkness on February 26, 2013, 12:51:12 am
@B-Man

...Seriously?  You're going there?

I'm not saying it doesn't have good points.  I'm just saying it's pushing the "I'm white so I'm a racist prick while pretending not to be." a bit too hard.  When I first read it, I said "WTF is this?" to myself.

Notice how much emphasis it puts on WHITE lies.  WHITE WHITE WHITE WHITE WHITE WHITE WHITE.

It's just a tad preachy for my tastes.  I mean, it makes a fucking strawman out of what whites think as a platform to show just how nasty and mean dem whites sure are!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on February 26, 2013, 12:56:25 am
...the word "White" is said all of three times.  Four if you count "Non-White".

I think maybe you're a little sensitive :P
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Osama bin Bambi on February 26, 2013, 12:57:36 am
@B-Man

...Seriously?  You're going there?

I'm not saying it doesn't have good points.  I'm just saying it's pushing the "I'm white so I'm a racist prick while pretending not to be." a bit too hard.  When I first read it, I said "WTF is this?" to myself.

Notice how much emphasis it puts on WHITE lies.  WHITE WHITE WHITE WHITE WHITE WHITE WHITE.

It's just a tad preachy for my tastes.

The vast majority of excuses like these are cliche excuses made by many white people when they are told that something they said or did was racist. They're basically more sophisticated variations of "I'm not racist, but..." where the part after is filled in with some racist belief or bias they still have. Although I would concede that #2 could be used by a liberal of any race.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Captain Jack Harkness on February 26, 2013, 12:59:42 am
...the word "White" is said all of three times.  Four if you count "Non-White".

I think maybe you're a little sensitive :P

It's partly the mention of "White."  The attitude of the people in the comic really gets to me, too.  There's also quite a bit of snark in the Hispanics' and blacks' faces.  I don't think it's cool.  I'm not saying it doesn't have good points.  I'm just saying that it has a shitty way of conveying them, IMO.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Osama bin Bambi on February 26, 2013, 02:42:28 am
...the word "White" is said all of three times.  Four if you count "Non-White".

I think maybe you're a little sensitive :P

It's partly the mention of "White."  The attitude of the people in the comic really gets to me, too.  There's also quite a bit of snark in the Hispanics' and blacks' faces.  I don't think it's cool.  I'm not saying it doesn't have good points.  I'm just saying that it has a shitty way of conveying them, IMO.

... well, how should it be conveyed, according to you?

I mean, if you're a person of color (yeah, yeah, inb4 "soshul justice" bashing) who gets tired of explaining why these excuses of wrong, you'd be tempted to make those expressions too.

Oh, and the person who made this comic, Barry Deutsch, is almost certainly white himself.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Captain Jack Harkness on February 26, 2013, 02:45:33 am
...the word "White" is said all of three times.  Four if you count "Non-White".

I think maybe you're a little sensitive :P

It's partly the mention of "White."  The attitude of the people in the comic really gets to me, too.  There's also quite a bit of snark in the Hispanics' and blacks' faces.  I don't think it's cool.  I'm not saying it doesn't have good points.  I'm just saying that it has a shitty way of conveying them, IMO.

... well, how should it be conveyed, according to you?

I mean, if you're a person of color (yeah, yeah, inb4 "soshul justice" bashing) who gets tired of explaining why these excuses of wrong, you'd be tempted to make those expressions too.

Oh, and the person who made this comic, Barry Deutsch, is almost certainly white himself.

Point being?  I don't care what his race is. It doesn't make me happier about the way the message is being conveyed.

As far as the first question goes:  I dunno.  Perhaps there's no way to say the shit this comic is saying delicately.  However, if the author was able to discuss his thinking and respond to criticisms, then maybe I'd feel a bit better.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Osama bin Bambi on February 26, 2013, 02:51:11 am
...the word "White" is said all of three times.  Four if you count "Non-White".

I think maybe you're a little sensitive :P

It's partly the mention of "White."  The attitude of the people in the comic really gets to me, too.  There's also quite a bit of snark in the Hispanics' and blacks' faces.  I don't think it's cool.  I'm not saying it doesn't have good points.  I'm just saying that it has a shitty way of conveying them, IMO.

... well, how should it be conveyed, according to you?

I mean, if you're a person of color (yeah, yeah, inb4 "soshul justice" bashing) who gets tired of explaining why these excuses of wrong, you'd be tempted to make those expressions too.

Oh, and the person who made this comic, Barry Deutsch, is almost certainly white himself.

Point being?  I don't care what his race is. It doesn't make me happier about the way the message is being conveyed.

As far as the first question goes:  I dunno.  Perhaps there's no way to say the shit this comic is saying delicately.  However, if the author was able to discuss his thinking and respond to criticisms, then maybe I'd feel a bit better.

There are plenty of people who already respond to the kinds of arguments he addresses in the comics. He's a cartoonist. His intention was mocking them, not writing a thesis paper to take each one down.

I would also like to point out that he was not mocking you or I for being white. He was mocking some white people for using cliched excuses.

This is like a theist seeing a comic that mocks common creationist arguments and thinking it's a mean, condescending attack against him specifically. Just because you're a theist doesn't mean you're a creationist or put forth dumb arguments, but the dumb creationist arguments are the things being mocked, not theism.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: booley on February 26, 2013, 02:37:00 pm
...the word "White" is said all of three times.  Four if you count "Non-White".

I think maybe you're a little sensitive :P

It's partly the mention of "White."  The attitude of the people in the comic really gets to me, too.  There's also quite a bit of snark in the Hispanics' and blacks' faces.  I don't think it's cool.  I'm not saying it doesn't have good points.  I'm just saying that it has a shitty way of conveying them, IMO.

... well, how should it be conveyed, according to you?

I mean, if you're a person of color (yeah, yeah, inb4 "soshul justice" bashing) who gets tired of explaining why these excuses of wrong, you'd be tempted to make those expressions too.

Oh, and the person who made this comic, Barry Deutsch, is almost certainly white himself.

Point being?  I don't care what his race is. It doesn't make me happier about the way the message is being conveyed.

As far as the first question goes:  I dunno.  Perhaps there's no way to say the shit this comic is saying delicately.  However, if the author was able to discuss his thinking and respond to criticisms, then maybe I'd feel a bit better.

There are plenty of people who already respond to the kinds of arguments he addresses in the comics. He's a cartoonist. His intention was mocking them, not writing a thesis paper to take each one down.

I would also like to point out that he was not mocking you or I for being white. He was mocking some white people for using cliched excuses.

This is like a theist seeing a comic that mocks common creationist arguments and thinking it's a mean, condescending attack against him specifically. Just because you're a theist doesn't mean you're a creationist or put forth dumb arguments, but the dumb creationist arguments are the things being mocked, not theism.

I can see how privilege comes into play here.

Part of the problem being that those who have privilege rarely ever realize it much less acknowledge it.

And for that don't have it, privilege is glaringly obvious.  So to them, how can anyone NOT have noticed it?!

Which often means that those without privilege angry at the other for being willfully obtuse.  And the privileged side gets defensive because they think they are being unfairly attacked.

Look,  the fact is people DO use those arguments.  Whether any certain individual has used that argument is not relevant.  Others have used them and those arguments are designed to buttress a system where White people benefit and others do not.

And NO, a person does not have to personally be racist to benefit a racist privilege.  That's part of what makes it so insidious.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Distind on February 26, 2013, 03:10:41 pm
Remember that whole not using privlege like a bat to bean people with thing. That.

Otherwise this happens.

Frankly I'm not exactly impressed with it either, I've seen the same argument so many times... I'm not going to say it lost all meaning, but mostly because it didn't have a whole lot of meaning in the first place. Privilege is not being the victim of discrimination. Which boggles my mind when people call privilege the problem.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Feral Dog on February 27, 2013, 01:26:14 am
(http://i.imgur.com/kTiuWzK.png)

I thought this was "Best Political Cartoons," not "Bash On Whitey."

I have conservative relatives who have made all of these arguments (except the liberal one).
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Quasirodent on February 27, 2013, 04:34:31 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/kTiuWzK.png)

I thought this was "Best Political Cartoons," not "Bash On Whitey."

I have conservative relatives who have made all of these arguments (except the liberal one).

I honestly can't see anything wrong with asserting that white people are also the target of racism and that it should be included in the discussion of racism.
Is there any way in this cartoon to be a white person and not have to feel like a terrible human being for it?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RavynousHunter on February 27, 2013, 04:42:32 pm
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I thought this was "Best Political Cartoons," not "Bash On Whitey."

I have conservative relatives who have made all of these arguments (except the liberal one).

I honestly can't see anything wrong with asserting that white people are also the target of racism and that it should be included in the discussion of racism.
Is there any way in this cartoon to be a white person and not have to feel like a terrible human being for it?

This looks like something drawn by a tumblr SJW.  If you're a cracker, just shut the fuck up and let everyone walk all over you, because you're white, and therefore don't deserve to so much as exist, much less speak.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on February 27, 2013, 05:07:53 pm
It's funny cause amptoons have posted other comics that almost everyone has agreed with.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on February 27, 2013, 07:55:01 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/GOYsd7N.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on February 28, 2013, 12:55:41 am
(http://media.timesfreepress.com/img/photos/2013/02/27/130228_The_Time_Bomb_t618.jpg?ba5b5b122dd3d37cc13d83e92a6a0ec0d5bfa32a)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Captain Jack Harkness on February 28, 2013, 01:25:37 am
(http://media.timesfreepress.com/img/photos/2013/02/27/130228_The_Time_Bomb_t618.jpg?ba5b5b122dd3d37cc13d83e92a6a0ec0d5bfa32a)

So sequestration is like a ticking time bomb?  Does Mickey represent the idea that it's part of an evil world domination part by Disney?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: ScrappyB on February 28, 2013, 01:43:51 am
(http://media.timesfreepress.com/img/photos/2013/02/27/130228_The_Time_Bomb_t618.jpg?ba5b5b122dd3d37cc13d83e92a6a0ec0d5bfa32a)

So sequestration is like a ticking time bomb?  Does Mickey represent the idea that it's part of an evil world domination part by Disney?

Mickey Mouse is used as a pejorative term to describe a small time operation or an inadequate/half-assed job.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mickey_Mouse#Pejorative_use_of_Mickey.27s_name

So I assume in this case, it means dysfunctional politics have set the time bomb to sequestration.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Captain Jack Harkness on February 28, 2013, 02:56:42 am
(http://media.timesfreepress.com/img/photos/2013/02/27/130228_The_Time_Bomb_t618.jpg?ba5b5b122dd3d37cc13d83e92a6a0ec0d5bfa32a)

So sequestration is like a ticking time bomb?  Does Mickey represent the idea that it's part of an evil world domination part by Disney?

Mickey Mouse is used as a pejorative term to describe a small time operation or an inadequate/half-assed job.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mickey_Mouse#Pejorative_use_of_Mickey.27s_name

So I assume in this case, it means dysfunctional politics have set the time bomb to sequestration.


Quote
However, in parts of Australia it can mean excellent or very good.

Lol, Aussies!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on February 28, 2013, 12:03:43 pm
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/531142_585471194814459_1409711132_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Feral Dog on February 28, 2013, 04:53:25 pm

I thought this was "Best Political Cartoons," not "Bash On Whitey."

I have conservative relatives who have made all of these arguments (except the liberal one).

I honestly can't see anything wrong with asserting that white people are also the target of racism and that it should be included in the discussion of racism.
Is there any way in this cartoon to be a white person and not have to feel like a terrible human being for it?
[/quote]

I agree, anti-white racism is a thing that should be included in the discussion. However, it isn't the form of prejudice most likely to influence laws, media, etc. so it tends to be a low-priority topic. #6 tends to be used as a deflective or dismissive argument when the topic of racism comes up (or at least that's been my experience- the only people I've talked to who didn't turn its existence into "proof that blacks are more racist and violent than whites" have been one younger sister, and a few online people).
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on February 28, 2013, 04:58:03 pm
In a legal context 6 in not applicable in America Europe Canada NZ or Aus.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: ThunderWulf on February 28, 2013, 11:14:14 pm
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/531142_585471194814459_1409711132_n.jpg)

Yeah, pretty much.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Jack Mann on March 01, 2013, 01:26:33 am
Quote
However, in parts of Australia it can mean excellent or very good.

Lol, Aussies!

Used to mean that in most parts of the world.  "You're the top! You're the Louvre Museum.  You're the melody from a symphony by Strauss!  You're a Bendel bonnet, a Shakespeare Sonnet, you're Mickey Mouse!"

Then came the Mickey Mouse watches, which were cheap, didn't keep good time, and broke easily.  Turned the whole meaning around.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on March 01, 2013, 12:33:13 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/ZEYM4Ux.gif)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on March 02, 2013, 12:26:25 am
(http://media.timesfreepress.com/img/photos/2013/03/01/130302_Unity_t618.jpg?ba5b5b122dd3d37cc13d83e92a6a0ec0d5bfa32a)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on March 02, 2013, 12:34:09 am
"Together we fall" feels like the natural punchline to that.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on March 02, 2013, 12:58:30 am
"Together we fall" feels like the natural punchline to that.

In Canada, united we fall, divided we stand.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Sixth Monarchist on March 02, 2013, 07:46:01 am
So it goes. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastleigh_by-election,_2013)

(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2013/3/1/1362172827900/Martin-Rowson-colour-2.3.-002.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on March 02, 2013, 07:54:07 am
Ok...

Well we see the furry cup and the threeheaded dino from the older comics in the background... Those were explained previously. There is the fat cat in a suit, apparently sleeping in the back as well and I assume that he presents the "fat cats."

Some dude in a striped suit has his head up his ass and some vultures on his arm.

The snake seems to be a caricature of someone but I do not recognise him, or the victim.

On the ground there seems to be a... Face?

That pile of shit looks a lot like Rupert Murdoch. If that is who he represents then there is one figure that I have recognised.

Haven't got the slightest clue of whose arm is sticking out from the shit though.

Welp, I've tried my best deciphering that comic and now everything tastes like purple. My head is a blanket and I can smell everything except myself.

The badgers are cmonig!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: chad sexington on March 02, 2013, 08:04:20 am
The character being eaten looks like Cameron, although I've never noticed the ruby slippers before.  I can see Clegg's pinocchio-arm sticking out of the pile of shit, but that's about it.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Captain Jack Harkness on March 02, 2013, 01:37:03 pm
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/531142_585471194814459_1409711132_n.jpg)

Looks like I owe you a Fuck Yeah.  Gave one to ya for your latest Funny/Stupid picture. XD
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on March 02, 2013, 01:49:34 pm
So it goes. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastleigh_by-election,_2013)

(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2013/3/1/1362172827900/Martin-Rowson-colour-2.3.-002.jpg)

Wait, I thought this was the "Best Political Cartoons" thread, not the "Weird Furry Fetishes" thread :P
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on March 02, 2013, 02:19:35 pm
Wait, I thought this was the "Best Political Cartoons" thread, not the "Weird Furry Fetishes" thread :P

Maybe Ctrak really, really liked that comic? I mean 'best' is just a matter of personal opinion here.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Caitshidhe on March 02, 2013, 05:35:37 pm
(http://www.atheistmemebase.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/001-Defending-the-Sanctity-of-Marriage.jpg)

Not included: celebrity marriages that expire quicker than bananas, people on death row for killing their spouses marrying penpals they will probably never actually meet, and homophobic biracial couples who were prevented from marrying for exactly the same reasons fifty years ago.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: MadCatTLX on March 02, 2013, 07:26:41 pm
Fun fact: "Kardashians" are now an acceptable unit of time measurement. It is a unit of time exactly 72 days in length, the same length as Kim Kardashian's marriage.*

Also, my spell check recognizes and corrects the name Kardashian. It didn't learn this from my typing it, as I've never typed it before. That's sad.

*http://bryanforbes.github.com/kardashian-calc/ (http://bryanforbes.github.com/kardashian-calc/)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on March 04, 2013, 12:47:45 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/K9pjy0Q.jpg)

Replace "Christians" with "religious fanatics" and this is fully accurate.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on March 04, 2013, 03:30:52 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/JlEVBEO.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: ScrappyB on March 05, 2013, 03:10:29 am
Fun fact: "Kardashians" are now an acceptable unit of time measurement. It is a unit of time exactly 72 days in length, the same length as Kim Kardashian's marriage.*

Also, my spell check recognizes and corrects the name Kardashian. It didn't learn this from my typing it, as I've never typed it before. That's sad.

*http://bryanforbes.github.com/kardashian-calc/ (http://bryanforbes.github.com/kardashian-calc/)

Every time I see that woman's name, it reminds me of Star Trek. Can't you just see Sulu going "Captain, we've detected a Kardashian war cruiser!"
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: DiscoBerry on March 05, 2013, 10:26:06 am
(http://i937.photobucket.com/albums/ad220/mrtraffic97/602237_619232858103365_2145450520_n_zpsa5ee318f.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Itachirumon on March 05, 2013, 06:10:34 pm
Fun fact: "Kardashians" are now an acceptable unit of time measurement. It is a unit of time exactly 72 days in length, the same length as Kim Kardashian's marriage.*

Also, my spell check recognizes and corrects the name Kardashian. It didn't learn this from my typing it, as I've never typed it before. That's sad.

*http://bryanforbes.github.com/kardashian-calc/ (http://bryanforbes.github.com/kardashian-calc/)

Every time I see that woman's name, it reminds me of Star Trek. Can't you just see Sulu going "Captain, we've detected a Kardashian war cruiser!"

Mine's the deeply held belief that we've been duped by the music industry and Nicki Minaj is what results when you love someone who wasn't clean. Cause you can totally see a doctor coming back and saying "I'm sorry Mr. Smith...but it seems you've contracted the Minaj... the only way to get rid of it is with an aggressive drug treatment"
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Meshakhad on March 05, 2013, 11:02:36 pm
Fun fact: "Kardashians" are now an acceptable unit of time measurement. It is a unit of time exactly 72 days in length, the same length as Kim Kardashian's marriage.*

Also, my spell check recognizes and corrects the name Kardashian. It didn't learn this from my typing it, as I've never typed it before. That's sad.

*http://bryanforbes.github.com/kardashian-calc/ (http://bryanforbes.github.com/kardashian-calc/)

Every time I see that woman's name, it reminds me of Star Trek. Can't you just see Sulu going "Captain, we've detected a Kardashian war cruiser!"

(http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l64/Copy-Ninja_Kakashi/CardassianKardashian.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RinellaWasHere on March 06, 2013, 01:54:25 am
Allow me to make your day.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: QueenofHearts on March 06, 2013, 04:23:50 am
You should change your name to "RinellaIsAwesome."
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on March 06, 2013, 08:01:24 am
(http://i.imgur.com/mPtUtgM.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Veras on March 06, 2013, 11:54:16 am
You should change your name to "RinellaIsAwesome."

Seconded!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: ThunderWulf on March 06, 2013, 05:05:57 pm
You should change your name to "RinellaIsAwesome."

Seconded!

Thirded!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RinellaWasHere on March 06, 2013, 05:55:54 pm
You should change your name to "RinellaIsAwesome."

Seconded!

Thirded!

Aw, shucks.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on March 06, 2013, 09:25:09 pm
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/485999_570830329608890_1426970055_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: MadCatTLX on March 06, 2013, 09:57:46 pm
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/485999_570830329608890_1426970055_n.jpg)

The crow looks stoned off his ass.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on March 06, 2013, 10:04:35 pm
I don't get it, did Scalia say something racist?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on March 06, 2013, 10:11:15 pm
Two words Racial Entitlements
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on March 06, 2013, 10:25:10 pm
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/485999_570830329608890_1426970055_n.jpg)

The crow looks stoned off his ass.

I didn't realize it until you pointed it out, that's too funny.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: MadCatTLX on March 06, 2013, 11:26:51 pm
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/485999_570830329608890_1426970055_n.jpg)

The crow looks stoned off his ass.

I didn't realize it until you pointed it out, that's too funny.

It looks like he has the good shit too. He probably got his stuff from blacks. You know that white guy out behind Black's Hardware store always has the good shit.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Material Defender on March 07, 2013, 09:49:41 am
I don't get it, did Scalia say something racist?

He's going to try to revoke the Voting Rights Act since Shelby county wants to be racist and he thinks that equal rights are entitlements.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on March 07, 2013, 10:09:12 am
I don't get it, did Scalia say something racist?

He's going to try to revoke the Voting Rights Act since Shelby county wants to be racist and he thinks that equal rights are entitlements.

The thing is that they feel picked on because the that section of the VRA only pertains to the Southern States, the simple fix is to extend the VRA to all states, but we can't have that, because it's level headed solution. And then Scalia had go and say this crap about equal rights being racial entitlements, he's too funny, given that there was a time when people of his background were treated like shit.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Bezron on March 07, 2013, 10:17:20 am
I don't get it, did Scalia say something racist?

Every single chance he gets, apparently...
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Damen on March 08, 2013, 04:02:51 am
Fun fact: "Kardashians" are now an acceptable unit of time measurement. It is a unit of time exactly 72 days in length, the same length as Kim Kardashian's marriage.*

Also, my spell check recognizes and corrects the name Kardashian. It didn't learn this from my typing it, as I've never typed it before. That's sad.

*http://bryanforbes.github.com/kardashian-calc/ (http://bryanforbes.github.com/kardashian-calc/)

Every time I see that woman's name, it reminds me of Star Trek. Can't you just see Sulu going "Captain, we've detected a Kardashian war cruiser!"

(http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l64/Copy-Ninja_Kakashi/CardassianKardashian.jpg)

(http://de-motivationalpictures.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/demotivational-posters-15.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on March 09, 2013, 04:37:45 pm
Who in their right mind would think that the dental floss costume would look good on anyone!? :|

Oh, that's right, pervy straight men in the comic book industry :P

Me likey the second pic, anyway! Woohoo! Show yer stuff, cutieboy!

*AHEM*

Sorry...couldn't help myself.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Captain Jack Harkness on March 09, 2013, 05:25:42 pm
I don't get it, did Scalia say something racist?

He's going to try to revoke the Voting Rights Act since Shelby county wants to be racist and he thinks that equal rights are entitlements.

The thing is that they feel picked on because the that section of the VRA only pertains to the Southern States, the simple fix is to extend the VRA to all states, but we can't have that, because it's level headed solution. And then Scalia had go and say this crap about equal rights being racial entitlements, he's too funny, given that there was a time when people of his background were treated like shit.

His "background?"  What, is he Jewish or something?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on March 09, 2013, 05:46:27 pm
Italian catholic
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Thejebusfire on March 10, 2013, 03:07:38 pm
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/fa6de96281aabbd365496984fa269d21/tumblr_mj3kwiiGqe1r55d2io1_500.jpg)

Forgive me if this has been posted before.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on March 10, 2013, 03:48:44 pm
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/fa6de96281aabbd365496984fa269d21/tumblr_mj3kwiiGqe1r55d2io1_500.jpg)

Forgive me if this has been posted before.

*BADUMPCHING!*
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on March 12, 2013, 08:40:08 am
(http://i.imgur.com/yIaaIT2.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on March 17, 2013, 12:35:29 am
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/72981_246012752201249_79831192_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Damen on March 17, 2013, 04:54:18 am
Not really a cartoon, but...

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lvp78nkSOs1r7az77o1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: worlder on March 17, 2013, 12:40:50 pm
Isn't that more like Worst Political Cartoons?

Killing the Space Program is a wide stretch that really loses many details about the context.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on March 17, 2013, 11:22:04 pm
Not really a cartoon but:

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/90b1b6d251bce63eefb98e6040392778/tumblr_mjtyf2tIB11qjxb8to1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Damen on March 18, 2013, 12:00:18 am
Not really a cartoon but:

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/90b1b6d251bce63eefb98e6040392778/tumblr_mjtyf2tIB11qjxb8to1_500.jpg)

How I feel about those two fuckfaces:

(http://www.manolith.com/files/2012/06/flood-and-not-a-single-fuck-was-given-that-day.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on March 18, 2013, 12:10:34 am
Is that the Philippines (that pic)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: ironbite on March 18, 2013, 12:50:54 am
Not really a cartoon but:

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/90b1b6d251bce63eefb98e6040392778/tumblr_mjtyf2tIB11qjxb8to1_500.jpg)

All three of these asses need to lose their damn jobs.

Ironbite-disgusting.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on March 18, 2013, 06:14:16 am
What do you expect from CNN?  >:(
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on March 18, 2013, 07:02:45 am
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/8fca53c399128d16bc3ad163d30685d3/tumblr_mjrjtdVpdg1qbxkjao1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Yla on March 18, 2013, 07:23:09 am
Eh. I'm not sure if the 'conservative' label makes sense applied to, say, a Pope in the 10th century.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Distind on March 18, 2013, 08:20:44 am
Particularly by the standards of being fucking pope. Not exactly a position for revolutionaries, all the important decisions where made ages ago and your job is quite literally to say god still supports them.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: worlder on March 19, 2013, 12:38:57 pm
Particularly by the standards of being fucking pope. Not exactly a position for revolutionaries, all the important decisions where made ages ago and your job is quite literally to say god still supports them.

Sounds like a very de jure position.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on March 20, 2013, 01:13:00 am
(http://media.timesfreepress.com/img/photos/2013/03/19/130320_The_Crusade_t618.jpg?ba5b5b122dd3d37cc13d83e92a6a0ec0d5bfa32a)

(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/24293_482626031802623_1783608788_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lt. Fred on March 21, 2013, 04:39:55 am
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/72981_246012752201249_79831192_n.jpg)

(http://media.timesfreepress.com/img/photos/2013/03/19/130320_The_Crusade_t618.jpg?ba5b5b122dd3d37cc13d83e92a6a0ec0d5bfa32a)

(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/24293_482626031802623_1783608788_n.jpg)

Very grim. Very good, but very grim.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Meshakhad on March 21, 2013, 06:31:17 pm
My opinion on Vietnam is not so much that we shouldn't have gone in, it's that we were on the wrong side. If we had backed Ho Chi Minh from the start (ie, when he was fighting the French), we would have gotten a pro-US democratic Vietnam, and Ho Chi Minh would have spent his last years on the US lecture circuit.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lt. Fred on March 21, 2013, 08:36:10 pm
My opinion on Vietnam is not so much that we shouldn't have gone in, it's that we were on the wrong side. If we had backed Ho Chi Minh from the start (ie, when he was fighting the French), we would have gotten a pro-US democratic Vietnam, and Ho Chi Minh would have spent his last years on the US lecture circuit.

Amen, sister.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on March 22, 2013, 03:44:07 pm
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/228803_436903709727465_1038589185_n.jpg)

(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/486023_585080634838570_1921205454_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on March 29, 2013, 08:08:23 pm
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/253713_466465326753309_913796111_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: ScrappyB on March 30, 2013, 03:41:15 am
(http://img1.visualizeus.com/thumbs/09/01/02/atheism,cartoon,comic,hypocrisy-6e69f6aa62face97de8afd5f418085ce_h.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Rabbit of Caerbannog on March 30, 2013, 01:43:59 pm
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/d97b1847f71afd21194e5593d97d734c/tumblr_mkahxapyic1rmzz37o1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Captain Jack Harkness on March 30, 2013, 07:48:45 pm
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/228803_436903709727465_1038589185_n.jpg)

(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/486023_585080634838570_1921205454_n.jpg)

I want a gif of Jesus flipping a table now.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on March 31, 2013, 01:38:38 pm
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/644248_437003009717042_1477127718_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Osama bin Bambi on March 31, 2013, 07:01:43 pm
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/d97b1847f71afd21194e5593d97d734c/tumblr_mkahxapyic1rmzz37o1_500.jpg)

I like how in the last panel he's like, "Come at me, bro."
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: chad sexington on March 31, 2013, 09:21:11 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/9mx3ZeE.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Itachirumon on March 31, 2013, 10:03:50 pm
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/d97b1847f71afd21194e5593d97d734c/tumblr_mkahxapyic1rmzz37o1_500.jpg)

I like how in the last panel he's like, "Come at me, bro."

"Behord the Groly of Mighty Nolth Kolea! My dad was so roney"
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Mechtaur on April 01, 2013, 04:30:22 am
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/d97b1847f71afd21194e5593d97d734c/tumblr_mkahxapyic1rmzz37o1_500.jpg)

I like how in the last panel he's like, "Come at me, bro."

From something I saw, that is because this might not be the full comic. I remember seeing another panel that basically zooms out and shows a massive figure with the Hammer and Sickle symbol on it standing behind little North Korea.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on April 02, 2013, 12:33:30 pm
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/625476_573768555974796_120674937_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on April 03, 2013, 01:03:39 am
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc1/67226_587873227891701_776454614_n.png)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Sixth Monarchist on April 03, 2013, 02:13:31 pm
(http://paxus.files.wordpress.com/2013/02/mordor-and-tar-sands.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: ThunderWulf on April 03, 2013, 10:27:47 pm
Gotta "love" bible thumping disguised as helping people.  Why can't you just help them WITHOUT preaching to them?

(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/205390_557042847649113_1752595643_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: ironbite on April 04, 2013, 01:12:43 am
Wow. That's...that's some arrogance.

Ironbite-wonder if they're Mormons.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on April 04, 2013, 01:54:52 am
Judging by the lingo, I'm betting Evangelical.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Dakota Bob on April 04, 2013, 06:03:41 am
"Prayer Warriors"

Lulz. Like they say, prayer is a way to do nothing and still feel you are doing something. I'm sure these guys will get a great reception.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: ThunderWulf on April 05, 2013, 11:55:27 pm
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/8972_436028149814105_1017727945_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: worlder on April 06, 2013, 12:58:24 am
Why can't more political cartoonists, regardless of stance, be like Bennett in terms of subtlety?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RavynousHunter on April 06, 2013, 01:27:29 am
Why can't more political cartoonists, regardless of stance, be like Bennett in terms of subtlety?

Subtlety is a lost art amongst political cartoonists, it'd seem.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on April 06, 2013, 02:16:03 am
Bennet to be honest crosses the line into subtle so someone needs to walk it through for me at times. 
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Distind on April 06, 2013, 06:58:50 am
Least he doesn't walk the line into so batshit we need a translator from english to... well, non-UK english.

His art is far better than most too.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Sixth Monarchist on April 06, 2013, 10:42:46 am
As usual, I'm going with the crowd-pleasing option.

(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2013/4/2/1364939507698/03.04.13-Martin-Rowson-on-003.jpg)

(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2013/4/3/1365027561472/04.04.13-Martin-Rowson-on-001.jpg)

(Martin Rowson/Guardian (http://www.guardian.co.uk/theguardian/series/guardiancommentcartoon))
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Damen on April 06, 2013, 10:54:57 am
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/8972_436028149814105_1017727945_n.jpg)

I want to give that artist a cookie.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Rabbit of Caerbannog on April 06, 2013, 10:55:42 am
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/8972_436028149814105_1017727945_n.jpg)

I want to give that artist a cookie.
Oh that is fucking priceless. Love Hitchcock and love this.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on April 06, 2013, 11:16:49 am
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/8972_436028149814105_1017727945_n.jpg)
Subtle, yet to the point.  I like it.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: erictheblue on April 06, 2013, 08:35:20 pm
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/8972_436028149814105_1017727945_n.jpg)

That is creepy. Accurate, but really creepy!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Kristine on April 07, 2013, 11:12:24 am
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/541772_633815279979021_1540487285_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on April 08, 2013, 07:45:32 pm
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/abf5db9ce5ae584b0436e14809d9ec7b/tumblr_mkwfsgzjR21qaqu94o3_1280.jpg)

Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: MadCatTLX on April 08, 2013, 08:08:44 pm
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/abf5db9ce5ae584b0436e14809d9ec7b/tumblr_mkwfsgzjR21qaqu94o3_1280.jpg)

Congress really does need a pay decrease. Generally not a good idea to give a group control of its own pay.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Itachirumon on April 08, 2013, 10:07:03 pm
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/abf5db9ce5ae584b0436e14809d9ec7b/tumblr_mkwfsgzjR21qaqu94o3_1280.jpg)

Congress really does need a pay decrease. Generally not a good idea to give a group control of its own pay.

You fascist commie Marxist pig! Don't you know that wealth trickles down?! If we allow Long John Ron von Hugendong to set a multi-million... no, billion dollar salary, that'll trickle down to us when he goes back in time with his magical masheen and makes the jobs the job creators make! That's a lot of billions Cheeto...
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Captain Jack Harkness on April 09, 2013, 12:00:48 am
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/abf5db9ce5ae584b0436e14809d9ec7b/tumblr_mkwfsgzjR21qaqu94o3_1280.jpg)

Congress really does need a pay decrease. Generally not a good idea to give a group control of its own pay.

Well, it's not so much that they shouldn't have control over their salaries.  They just shouldn't have unilateral control of the damned things.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Auri-El on April 09, 2013, 04:52:40 pm
Well, I think everyone should be able to set their own salaries then. Why should Congress be the only ones to get that privilege?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Sixth Monarchist on April 09, 2013, 05:10:40 pm
...because they're The DecidersTM. Therefore, something something economy cut spending wealth creation.

(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2013/4/8/1365456662820/Steve-Bell-09.03.2013-013.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on April 09, 2013, 05:34:20 pm
Ooo, a Steve Bell cartoon that I actually get.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on April 09, 2013, 06:09:47 pm
...Wow, me too.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Caitshidhe on April 09, 2013, 06:29:32 pm
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/8972_436028149814105_1017727945_n.jpg)

Everybody who saw this picture and immediately in their head heard the 'REE-REE-REE-REE!!' of screeching violins, please raise your hand.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Auggziliary on April 09, 2013, 06:49:34 pm
Ooo, a Steve Bell cartoon that I actually get.

I don't get it.....
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: R. U. Sirius on April 09, 2013, 06:56:52 pm
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/8972_436028149814105_1017727945_n.jpg)

Everybody who saw this picture and immediately in their head heard the 'REE-REE-REE-REE!!' of screeching violins, please raise your hand.

*raises hand*
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on April 09, 2013, 07:37:15 pm
Ooo, a Steve Bell cartoon that I actually get.

I don't get it.....

it's a play on Dante's Inferno,the cartoon mirroring one of Guestave Dore's works (http://uploads3.wikipaintings.org/images/gustave-dore/the-inferno-canto-10.jpg) of the sixth circle of hell (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inferno_(Dante)).
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: ironbite on April 10, 2013, 12:44:47 am
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/8972_436028149814105_1017727945_n.jpg)

Everybody who saw this picture and immediately in their head heard the 'REE-REE-REE-REE!!' of screeching violins, please raise your hand.

*raises hand*
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Damen on April 10, 2013, 10:25:58 am
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/8972_436028149814105_1017727945_n.jpg)

Everybody who saw this picture and immediately in their head heard the 'REE-REE-REE-REE!!' of screeching violins, please raise your hand.

*raises hand*
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Rabbit of Caerbannog on April 10, 2013, 06:06:18 pm
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/8972_436028149814105_1017727945_n.jpg)

Everybody who saw this picture and immediately in their head heard the 'REE-REE-REE-REE!!' of screeching violins, please raise your hand.

*raises hand*
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Igor on April 11, 2013, 12:18:03 am
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/8972_436028149814105_1017727945_n.jpg)

Everybody who saw this picture and immediately in their head heard the 'REE-REE-REE-REE!!' of screeching violins, please raise your hand.

*raises hand*
[insert blank quote here]
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on April 11, 2013, 11:38:11 am
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mb9nopr0Nm1qmoni4o1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cerim Treascair on April 11, 2013, 03:20:12 pm
Aaaand another for my pile of awesome comics.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cataclysm on April 12, 2013, 03:15:32 pm
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/30542_603725869656006_1750637738_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on April 13, 2013, 12:24:27 am
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/e3b6ad3397a998cc23185b5f0e0f1e50/tumblr_ml1lv0o5771qerfwwo1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on April 13, 2013, 12:13:16 pm
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/535847_474098585994522_435726541_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on April 13, 2013, 12:16:26 pm
That is good and subtle
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on April 14, 2013, 11:02:59 am
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/546045_594149877262713_1402074589_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Igor on April 14, 2013, 12:15:34 pm
(http://d3j5vwomefv46c.cloudfront.net/photos/large/757583202.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: mellenORL on April 14, 2013, 12:59:24 pm
(http://d3j5vwomefv46c.cloudfront.net/photos/large/757583202.jpg)

Can I hear a Huge! Fuck! Yeah! for De Adder?!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Auggziliary on April 14, 2013, 01:01:02 pm
^Fuck yes  >:(

Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lt. Fred on April 14, 2013, 06:25:23 pm
(Martin Rowson/Guardian (http://www.guardian.co.uk/theguardian/series/guardiancommentcartoon))
Spectacular
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on April 16, 2013, 01:04:07 pm
Our favorite subtle cartoonist does it again:

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/7a778343840819538e332755fef1934b/tumblr_mlcplbmDom1qbxkjao1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: mellenORL on April 16, 2013, 01:15:55 pm
That one is heart rending. Bennett does the South and Tennessee proud. We are far from being all a bunch insensitive ignoramuses. 
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on April 17, 2013, 06:09:43 am
He's really good at this, isn't he?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on April 19, 2013, 07:03:05 pm
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/521772_505308436181944_1986936220_n.jpg)
Fucking love this...
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Osama bin Bambi on April 19, 2013, 07:15:43 pm
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/521772_505308436181944_1986936220_n.jpg)
Fucking love this...

Somehow this drawing looks more like Alex Jones than Alex Jones looks like Alex Jones.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on April 19, 2013, 09:08:41 pm
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/521772_505308436181944_1986936220_n.jpg)
Fucking love this...

I love the rats. At first I was like "They're horrified at Jones and are trying to get away" then I noticed that it appears some of the word balloons are coming from THEM!

It would've been funnier if Alex was saying all that & the rats were like "AUGH! GET AWAY FROM IT!" showing that smelly rodents have standards.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Feral Dog on April 20, 2013, 01:04:04 am
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/521772_505308436181944_1986936220_n.jpg)
Fucking love this...

I love the rats. At first I was like "They're horrified at Jones and are trying to get away" then I noticed that it appears some of the word balloons are coming from THEM!

It would've been funnier if Alex was saying all that & the rats were like "AUGH! GET AWAY FROM IT!" showing that smelly rodents have standards.

The rodents look like they're overdosing on something (look at those eyeballs!).
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: ThunderWulf on April 20, 2013, 01:21:11 pm
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/375805_591370677540581_1986259397_n.png)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Osama bin Bambi on April 20, 2013, 09:05:07 pm
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/540471_10151398197316275_1753021233_n.png)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on April 20, 2013, 09:07:34 pm
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/540471_10151398197316275_1753021233_n.png)

"Fabricated story! He wasn't holding milk! He was holding ___!" "How do we know it was during the lockdown and he isn't just bringing milk home to his own family?"

My brain hurts typing that.

In all seriousness, good on him/them. Proud of my boys in blue.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lt. Fred on April 20, 2013, 09:32:23 pm
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/540471_10151398197316275_1753021233_n.png)

Admittedly, he doesn't look very happy about it.

Not that I'd be complaining about the milkman.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Rabbit of Caerbannog on April 20, 2013, 11:04:23 pm
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/521772_505308436181944_1986936220_n.jpg)
Fucking love this...

Somehow this drawing looks more like Alex Jones than Alex Jones looks like Alex Jones.
Somehow I think I understood that.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Osama bin Bambi on April 20, 2013, 11:33:55 pm
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/521772_505308436181944_1986936220_n.jpg)
Fucking love this...

Somehow this drawing looks more like Alex Jones than Alex Jones looks like Alex Jones.
Somehow I think I understood that.

Somehow your face. :P
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Rabbit of Caerbannog on April 20, 2013, 11:43:12 pm
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/521772_505308436181944_1986936220_n.jpg)
Fucking love this...

Somehow this drawing looks more like Alex Jones than Alex Jones looks like Alex Jones.
Somehow I think I understood that.

Somehow your face. :P
Yeah well...your mother* 8)

*Please be advised that I know absolutely nothing about your mother and for all I know she is a wonderful lady.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on April 21, 2013, 09:28:39 am
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/375805_591370677540581_1986259397_n.png)

I love this quote! Good point.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: chad sexington on April 21, 2013, 09:17:08 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/IXLSSfn.jpg)
Pretty Vacant Punk God is the best God :D

(http://i.imgur.com/7qlJQtt.jpg)
:(
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Rabbit of Caerbannog on April 23, 2013, 05:38:44 pm
(http://img.allvoices.com/thumbs/image/609/609/96050397-nra-stands-its-ground.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: R. U. Sirius on April 23, 2013, 05:47:48 pm
(http://img.allvoices.com/thumbs/image/609/609/96050397-nra-stands-its-ground.jpg)

Reminds me of an article I read in Rolling Stone recently about a man in Florida who tried to invoke "stand your ground" because some black teens wouldn't turn down their music. An argument ensued and he pulled a gun and fired at them as they tore off in their vehicle, fleeing for their lives. The excuse he gave police was "they refused to follow my orders. What was I supposed to do?" and later spun a story about them pulling guns on HIM. I don't remember if he actually got off or not.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Itachirumon on April 23, 2013, 09:58:32 pm
(http://img.allvoices.com/thumbs/image/609/609/96050397-nra-stands-its-ground.jpg)

Reminds me of an article I read in Rolling Stone recently about a man in Florida who tried to invoke "stand your ground" because some black teens wouldn't turn down their music. An argument ensued and he pulled a gun and fired at them as they tore off in their vehicle, fleeing for their lives. The excuse he gave police was "they refused to follow my orders. What was I supposed to do?" and later spun a story about them pulling guns on HIM. I don't remember if he actually got off or not.

What? "They refused to follow my orders? What was I supposed to do?!" Excuse me....I need to...I..wowww....just wow.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: ThunderWulf on April 24, 2013, 12:36:58 am
(http://img.allvoices.com/thumbs/image/609/609/96050397-nra-stands-its-ground.jpg)

Reminds me of an article I read in Rolling Stone recently about a man in Florida who tried to invoke "stand your ground" because some black teens wouldn't turn down their music. An argument ensued and he pulled a gun and fired at them as they tore off in their vehicle, fleeing for their lives. The excuse he gave police was "they refused to follow my orders. What was I supposed to do?" and later spun a story about them pulling guns on HIM. I don't remember if he actually got off or not.

'Murica.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: mythbuster43 on April 24, 2013, 12:55:23 am
This is a very old vintage one (from 1856), but it's a good one.

(http://www.bookdrum.com/images/books/89521_m.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on April 24, 2013, 01:21:54 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/rkvEHMv.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on April 24, 2013, 02:21:14 pm
...what movie?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Rabbit of Caerbannog on April 24, 2013, 02:29:57 pm
...what movie?
Innocence of Muslims
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: DiscoBerry on April 24, 2013, 03:05:14 pm
(http://i937.photobucket.com/albums/ad220/mrtraffic97/431927_644187218941262_1244492608_n_zpse15b9aa4.png)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Captain Jack Harkness on April 25, 2013, 01:35:06 am
(http://i937.photobucket.com/albums/ad220/mrtraffic97/431927_644187218941262_1244492608_n_zpse15b9aa4.png)

Haha.  Oh that's fucking good.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Itachirumon on April 25, 2013, 06:11:55 am
(http://i937.photobucket.com/albums/ad220/mrtraffic97/431927_644187218941262_1244492608_n_zpse15b9aa4.png)

Haha.  Oh that's fucking good.

Matt Bors is a lovely, lovely comic.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on April 25, 2013, 04:12:16 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/opQVyDa.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: R. U. Sirius on April 25, 2013, 04:16:47 pm
Aren't most anti-vaxers religious conservatives who would hate hippies like those parents?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on April 25, 2013, 04:17:27 pm
Aren't most anti-vaxers religious conservatives who would hate hippies like those parents?
I think a large number of them are ultraliberal natural medicine advocates.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Feral Dog on April 25, 2013, 04:40:55 pm
Aren't most anti-vaxers religious conservatives who would hate hippies like those parents?
I think a large number of them are ultraliberal natural medicine advocates.

You'd be AMAZED at the overlap when it comes to natural/holistic health advocates. People who disagree fundamentally on everything else agree from the bottom of their righteous hearts that all your health problems can be solved by -insert fad food here-.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RavynousHunter on April 25, 2013, 11:39:15 pm
(click to show/hide)

This is why anti-vaccers will forever infuriate me beyond fucking reason.  They kill children.  Not even going to bother being nice, they fucking kill children.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: mythbuster43 on April 25, 2013, 11:46:06 pm
Aren't most anti-vaxers religious conservatives who would hate hippies like those parents?
I think a large number of them are ultraliberal natural medicine advocates.

You'd be AMAZED at the overlap when it comes to natural/holistic health advocates. People who disagree fundamentally on everything else agree from the bottom of their righteous hearts that all your health problems can be solved by -insert fad food here-.

RationalWiki refers to this phenomenon as "crank Magnetism." It's apt, as anti-vaccine woo is one of he few things you'll find in the Huffington Post as often as in WorldNetDaily.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: MadCatTLX on April 25, 2013, 11:58:40 pm
(click to show/hide)

This is why anti-vaccers will forever infuriate me beyond fucking reason.  They kill children.  Not even going to bother being nice, they fucking kill children.

At least anti-vaccers will usually try something when there kid is sick, though it may be ineffective leaves(or possibly effective leaves). That's more than the prayer healers do for their children. At least herbs might be a legit remedy.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Rabbit of Caerbannog on April 26, 2013, 12:32:41 am
Aren't most anti-vaxers religious conservatives who would hate hippies like those parents?
I think a large number of them are ultraliberal natural medicine advocates.
I actually find that they're usually in the ultraliberal conspiracy theorist category.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: mellenORL on April 26, 2013, 12:16:18 pm
I know a couple back in ATL. Dad is an architect, mom is a real estate agent. Both have degrees, both are

moderate politically....and are fucking anti-vaccers! Thank gawd, both kids made it to young adulthood okay, but unless they

get adult vaccinations for the childhood diseases that they have not yet contracted (and they suffered like hell through a

bunch of 'em, especially flu after flu), they could still die from stupid dangers like a strain of measles or gawd knows what.

No doubt the majority of anti-vaccers are on the extreme ends socio-politically, but what I think is the real main cause of the

spread of this "movement" is scientific illiteracy to the point that they do not even recognize that the claims are actually

outrageous. Combine that with the lack of time or motivation to truly research the topic and educate themselves.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on April 26, 2013, 06:35:41 pm
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/935034_10151428954451094_170525085_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on April 26, 2013, 08:20:08 pm
-snip-

Great now I'm going to anthropomorphize drones...

The cute... is setting... in.... HNNNNNG!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Jack Mann on April 26, 2013, 08:24:46 pm
I still say drones are no more unethical than any other method of bombing.  The question isn't whether or not we should be using drones, it's whether or not we should be bombing in the first place.  If we should, then there should be no problem using drones.  If we shouldn't, then the drones aren't the problem.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Itachirumon on April 26, 2013, 09:00:13 pm
-snip-

Great now I'm going to anthropomorphize drones...

The cute... is setting... in.... HNNNNNG!

I don't hate you....
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on April 26, 2013, 09:27:24 pm
-snip-

Great now I'm going to anthropomorphize drones...

The cute... is setting... in.... HNNNNNG!

I don't hate you....

Great, now I'm suffering a heart attack from the adorable.

Thank you sooooo much :P
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: KZN02 on April 26, 2013, 09:40:53 pm
Last quarter in my Ethics class, we had a discussion on drones. During that, I mentioned that there was news of US soldiers who took their bomb drone out fishing to make it feel part of their unit. I mentioned to the professor that we're humanizing these drones.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on April 26, 2013, 11:18:29 pm
Last quarter in my Ethics class, we had a discussion on drones. During that, I mentioned that there was news of US soldiers who took their bomb drone out fishing to make it feel part of their unit. I mentioned to the professor that we're humanizing these drones.

Hell, people yell at computers, scream at microwaves, and curse at brooms that fall down at inconvenient times.  Humanizing drones makes a bit more sense considering the fact that they are more animated than most things.

By the way I'm not a psychologist.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: guizonde on April 26, 2013, 11:31:33 pm
Last quarter in my Ethics class, we had a discussion on drones. During that, I mentioned that there was news of US soldiers who took their bomb drone out fishing to make it feel part of their unit. I mentioned to the professor that we're humanizing these drones.

Hell, people yell at computers, scream at microwaves, and curse at brooms that fall down at inconvenient times.  Humanizing drones makes a bit more sense considering the fact that they are more animated than most things.

By the way I'm not a psychologist.

that's nothing! my dear computer and i are best friends! AI rights! AI rights! *twitches* [/loony bin]... what was i doing again? time to go to bed with my wonderful wife, all made of korina wood and V-shaped... good night, guitar...

ok, if that ramble is incoherent, let's say it was done on purpose to show that bonding to objects is quite normal, and an involuntary human tendancy, and not just me lacking sleep  ;D
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on April 27, 2013, 12:27:43 am
Last quarter in my Ethics class, we had a discussion on drones. During that, I mentioned that there was news of US soldiers who took their bomb drone out fishing to make it feel part of their unit. I mentioned to the professor that we're humanizing these drones.
US military has drones and robots that were created for the sole purpose of making them do dangerous tasks that would otherwise force actual soldies/etc. risk their lives. Now that the robots are in use there are numerous cases where the soldies have risked their lives willingly to save a damaged robot. There are cases where soldiers have demanded that instead of getting a new robot to replace the damaged/destroyed one the old one must be repaired because they have grown attached to it.

I think that it is the high risk situations that make them humanize the robots so much but in any case this is a fascinating phenomenom.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: KZN02 on April 27, 2013, 02:21:12 am
I'm trying to google the news that soldiers took their drone out fishing, but I keep getting all these serious stuff about the ethics of drones.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on April 27, 2013, 11:16:52 am
-snip-

Great now I'm going to anthropomorphize drones...

The cute... is setting... in.... HNNNNNG!


It's like a cute little robo-bird/bug or something. It's adorkable!

Drones...cuteness...babyfaced terrorist boy...the cute...so wrong...STAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHP!

Drones, Boston Bomber Boy, Tasmanian Devils, Bears.....why do some ferocious & dangerous stuff have to be cute?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: zupper on April 27, 2013, 05:27:48 pm
I'm trying to google the news that soldiers took their drone out fishing, but I keep getting all these serious stuff about the ethics of drones.

Here you go:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/05/05/AR2007050501009_pf.html (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/05/05/AR2007050501009_pf.html)

I think the term "Drone" can be used only for autonomous flying things because it's a type of a bee.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lt. Fred on April 28, 2013, 06:19:48 pm
Drones, Boston Bomber Boy, Tasmanian Devils, Bears.....why do some ferocious & dangerous stuff have to be cute?

Sorry to be contrary, but I don't think Tasmanian Devils are actually dangerous, they just have bad PR. Or maybe I'm just speaking relatively. Compared to a Taipan or a crocodile or a pissed-off mother Kangaroo, it's a fucking doddle.

Even a Koala will gore your face off if you annoy it enough and it's not asleep or tripping balls.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on April 28, 2013, 06:24:55 pm
Drones, Boston Bomber Boy, Tasmanian Devils, Bears.....why do some ferocious & dangerous stuff have to be cute?

Sorry to be contrary, but I don't think Tasmanian Devils are actually dangerous, they just have bad PR. Or maybe I'm just speaking relatively. Compared to a Taipan or a crocodile or a pissed-off mother Kangaroo, it's a fucking doddle.

Even a Koala will gore your face off if you annoy it enough and it's not asleep or tripping balls.

True, I'm sorry.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cataclysm on April 28, 2013, 07:35:52 pm
-snip-

Great now I'm going to anthropomorphize drones...

The cute... is setting... in.... HNNNNNG!

Been done

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frwAE5HG284

Reminds me of this too

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on April 28, 2013, 07:39:21 pm
Kinda reminds me of this

(http://i.imgur.com/SQlb0m1.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: mellenORL on April 28, 2013, 08:13:03 pm
Little surveillance UAV's are cute, but predators, global hawks, raptors...are orca like and orca sized. Kinda big to be cute.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on April 28, 2013, 08:46:29 pm
Little surveillance UAV's are cute, but predators, global hawks, raptors...are orca like and orca sized. Kinda big to be cute.

People find orcas cute, too, despite their size...
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: worlder on April 28, 2013, 09:20:29 pm
Little surveillance UAV's are cute, but predators, global hawks, raptors...are orca like and orca sized. Kinda big to be cute.

People find orcas cute, too, despite their size...

And diets.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: KZN02 on April 28, 2013, 11:32:01 pm
Can't we have cute drones with treads?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: mellenORL on April 28, 2013, 11:48:51 pm
Like WALL-E? Yeah, the IED disposal bots look a bit like that.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: chad sexington on April 29, 2013, 01:45:20 am
You mean Johnny Five?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: KZN02 on April 29, 2013, 05:03:42 am
On the topic of drones, when do you think we'll get to the point of people complaining robots "took our jobs"?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on April 29, 2013, 08:22:11 am
On the topic of drones, when do you think we'll get to the point of people complaining robots "took our jobs"?

You mean, "Dey Turk er jerbs - Durka Dur"? ;D
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on April 29, 2013, 08:30:08 am
(http://i.imgur.com/YIurMtG.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: R. U. Sirius on April 29, 2013, 09:11:23 am
On the topic of drones, when do you think we'll get to the point of people complaining robots "took our jobs"?

You mean, "Dey Turk er jerbs - Durka Dur"? ;D

I've already heard that complaint about self-checkouts at grocery stores.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Distind on April 29, 2013, 10:07:04 am
On the topic of drones, when do you think we'll get to the point of people complaining robots "took our jobs"?
I swear I saw this while surfing around this morning, of course I can't find it now...
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: MadCatTLX on April 29, 2013, 12:17:19 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/YIurMtG.jpg)

That's rather inaccurate. It should actually be "kill those illegals." I know from having heard it more than enough times.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on April 29, 2013, 06:20:28 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/7lwp1mK.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on April 29, 2013, 08:31:44 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/7lwp1mK.jpg)

KA-ZING!

In fact, homophobia, itself is un-African. Before the invaders, colonials & missionaries came along, homosexuality wasn't an issue. They saw homosexuality the same way as pre-colonial Native Americans.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: chad sexington on April 30, 2013, 04:03:19 am
On the topic of drones, when do you think we'll get to the point of people complaining robots "took our jobs"?

People have been saying that since the Industrial Revolution began.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Dakota Bob on April 30, 2013, 07:10:41 am
The fuck is up with that dudes lips in the above comic?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: zupper on April 30, 2013, 12:25:32 pm
The fuck is up with that dudes lips in the above comic?

Well duh, he's black. That's what they look like. I'm jokin.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cataclysm on April 30, 2013, 01:15:51 pm
The fuck is up with that dudes lips in the above comic?

Looks like Homer Simpson
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on April 30, 2013, 01:16:00 pm
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/d9ee3d203fc9e3da9ae914a405c99370/tumblr_mm2ot6CT9C1qbxkjao1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Auri-El on May 01, 2013, 10:10:23 am
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/166248_189479967870451_1884882948_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: mellenORL on May 01, 2013, 10:58:30 am
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/d9ee3d203fc9e3da9ae914a405c99370/tumblr_mm2ot6CT9C1qbxkjao1_500.jpg)

Spot on. And to think that people thought the world had learned a lesson from the Triangle Shirt Waist factory fire <bitter snark>.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: MadCatTLX on May 01, 2013, 03:39:58 pm
Around my parts most people probably don't know about the factory collapse and don't care. If they did know, I'm sure they'd be cheering because all those job stealers are dead.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Rabbit of Caerbannog on May 01, 2013, 03:50:44 pm
(http://huckkonopackicartoons.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/hk_west.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Damen on May 01, 2013, 03:54:27 pm
(http://www.usnews.com/usnews/php/galleries/image.php/856/113/113.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on May 01, 2013, 03:59:07 pm
Around my parts most people probably don't know about the factory collapse and don't care. If they did know, I'm sure they'd be cheering because all those job stealers are dead.
Don't forget they are Muslims
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on May 01, 2013, 06:29:13 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/x71feSu.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: wrightway on May 01, 2013, 07:04:53 pm
I'd be the sole person in the empty theatre. My ex claimed that the hundreds of dollars he squandered was for weed for his "anxiety." It was probably for other things too, but the pot was all he brought home.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Rabbit of Caerbannog on May 01, 2013, 09:56:56 pm
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/d9ee3d203fc9e3da9ae914a405c99370/tumblr_mm2ot6CT9C1qbxkjao1_500.jpg)

Spot on. And to think that people thought the world had learned a lesson from the Triangle Shirt Waist factory fire <bitter snark>.
Even the freaking Pope called them out (http://www.salon.com/2013/05/01/pope_condemns_slave_labor_conditions_in_bangladesh_partner/) on their working conditions. Actually he also said that such "slave labor" is "against God."
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Meshakhad on May 01, 2013, 11:29:01 pm
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/d9ee3d203fc9e3da9ae914a405c99370/tumblr_mm2ot6CT9C1qbxkjao1_500.jpg)

Spot on. And to think that people thought the world had learned a lesson from the Triangle Shirt Waist factory fire <bitter snark>.
Even the freaking Pope called them out (http://www.salon.com/2013/05/01/pope_condemns_slave_labor_conditions_in_bangladesh_partner/) on their working conditions. Actually he also said that such "slave labor" is "against God."

Word!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on May 02, 2013, 01:51:21 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/OdUoAmS.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Reality Warper on May 03, 2013, 08:18:32 am
Truth!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on May 03, 2013, 02:28:20 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/ANN29DH.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Feral Dog on May 04, 2013, 04:33:46 pm
KA-ZING!

In fact, homophobia, itself is un-African. Before the invaders, colonials & missionaries came along, homosexuality wasn't an issue. They saw homosexuality the same way as pre-colonial Native Americans.

Please don't fall into the 'tribal societies were more accepting of gays' thing. SOME tribes were. Others were just as harsh as the colonialists (the Nuer people, for example). Still others use oral sex between men as an initiation rite to purge men of the corrupting feminine influence of their mothers (which also happens in a few Pacific Islander tribes). Just like everyone else, different tribes have different customs.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Caitshidhe on May 04, 2013, 04:42:09 pm
^ That.

Not all tribes were paradises of acceptance and equality, only later tainted by Evil White People. Some had just as strict rules as the Middle Ages about status, sex, and sexuality and were just as brutal in their enforcement of their rules. It may only seem like some tribes accepted (or didn't care about) homosexuality because they funneled most of their energy and effort into survival alone, and worrying about who prefers to get squelchy with whom is a comparative luxury.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Sixth Monarchist on May 04, 2013, 05:17:38 pm
Still others use oral sex between men as an initiation rite to purge men of the corrupting feminine influence of their mothers (which also happens in a few Pacific Islander tribes).

Wait, what?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: mellenORL on May 04, 2013, 06:44:52 pm
Still others use oral sex between men as an initiation rite to purge men of the corrupting feminine influence of their mothers (which also happens in a few Pacific Islander tribes).

Wait, what?

Ah! The spiritual antecedents of MGTOW. We should send a wiki page about it to them. How inspiring  :)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Osama bin Bambi on May 04, 2013, 08:03:35 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/x71feSu.jpg)

I disagree with marijuana laws, but I think it's a stretch to say marijuana is harmless most of the time. Some people can handle it if they smoke recreationally and some people become addicts.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: wrightway on May 04, 2013, 10:17:31 pm
I was told it wasn't addictive. I take it I was told wrong?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Osama bin Bambi on May 04, 2013, 10:36:23 pm
I was told it wasn't addictive. I take it I was told wrong?

Yes, those people are subject to wishful thinking. A lot of people say marijuana is perfectly safe or that it never creates dependence (which I think is a better term for marijuana addiction, really). While I think some people can take marijuana every so often and be okay, my father has been completely dependent on pot to get through the day for years. It's absolutely a dependence on marijuana. It's a lot like how alcohol works.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on May 04, 2013, 10:39:37 pm
So it doesn't necessarily create a physical addiction, but it does create a mental addiction easily?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Osama bin Bambi on May 04, 2013, 10:40:47 pm
So it doesn't necessarily create a physical addiction, but it does create a mental addiction easily?

Pretty much. Some people just get addicted to the calmness and detachment it creates.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: wrightway on May 04, 2013, 10:54:17 pm
Detachment is a great word for it. I saw that often. The ex was talking physical addiction.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on May 04, 2013, 10:59:09 pm
So it doesn't necessarily create a physical addiction, but it does create a mental addiction easily?

Pretty much. Some people just get addicted to the calmness and detachment it creates.

Yeah, that's what I figured.

I think the people who talk about addictions like to pretend that mental addiction isn't a thing, just like depression, ADHD, and OCD aren't things.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ottery on May 05, 2013, 12:16:25 am
Yeah,  I think one can have a mental addiction to a lot of things. I suffer from trich, which means I pull my eyelashes out because I find it calming. I dont know why weed advocates just don't come out and say "people can become addicted to the feeling it causes, but we need to legalize weed so they can get help for their addiction in stead of feeling shame." I guess you can say the same for other drugs, but other drugs tend to cause chemical addictions and have harmful effects.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on May 05, 2013, 10:57:07 am
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/8e0a1e4682868927c3c0e0968b95cbe7/tumblr_mm8jbsEq9n1r55d2io1_1280.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on May 06, 2013, 12:19:08 am
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/183083_521403271249304_113027490_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on May 06, 2013, 12:25:39 am
That's a very effective use of a single label.  With that, the rest of the allegory falls into place on its own.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on May 06, 2013, 08:39:07 am
KA-ZING!

In fact, homophobia, itself is un-African. Before the invaders, colonials & missionaries came along, homosexuality wasn't an issue. They saw homosexuality the same way as pre-colonial Native Americans.

Please don't fall into the 'tribal societies were more accepting of gays' thing. SOME tribes were. Others were just as harsh as the colonialists (the Nuer people, for example). Still others use oral sex between men as an initiation rite to purge men of the corrupting feminine influence of their mothers (which also happens in a few Pacific Islander tribes). Just like everyone else, different tribes have different customs.

You have a point. I shouldn't be ignorant & treat them like a monolith.
Whenever it's Africa, The Americas, Australia or wherever...different tribes are the equivalent of different nations, each with their own customs, mores, mythology, arts, cultures, etc. To say that the Ashanti & Khoisan are the same or that the Iroquois & Hopi are the same would be as silly as saying the English & Greeks are the same.
That said, one can still blame outside influences for the more LGBT-friendly tribes turning into raging homophobes.
I realize you don't need Abrahamic religion/morals to be homophobic. Homophobia is basically an extension of misogyny. The Romans & Greeks were polytheists but they were sexist as hell! Same goes for the Far-Eastern countries.


(http://24.media.tumblr.com/8e0a1e4682868927c3c0e0968b95cbe7/tumblr_mm8jbsEq9n1r55d2io1_1280.jpg)

FAUX NOISE! It's network motto, Fear & Bombast!


That's a very effective use of a single label.  With that, the rest of the allegory falls into place on its own.

I agree, BEAUTIFUL!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on May 06, 2013, 12:03:50 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/0nP3tnS.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Osama bin Bambi on May 06, 2013, 06:55:14 pm
The Facebook sexism bingo card:

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/b99a163c8b5c7a0ef01b56c318e14998/tumblr_mh2ji51KMd1ru9gfho1_r1_1280.png)

MRA bingo card:

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/2cc74e1a4508764607b8af37839542f7/tumblr_miirjeXwn11ru9gfho1_1280.png)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: lord gibbon on May 06, 2013, 06:58:47 pm
Um... what exactly is wrong with fedora's? Is this some new misogynist fashion statement?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Osama bin Bambi on May 06, 2013, 07:05:02 pm
Um... what exactly is wrong with fedora's? Is this some new misogynist fashion statement?

Yes.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on May 06, 2013, 07:08:31 pm
Just go on OkCupid
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: lord gibbon on May 06, 2013, 07:46:11 pm
Huh, okay. I'll go look, It can't be that ba.... WOW!

sucks too, I mean, I wear a fedora because I like the way it looks, now I'm going to be associated with.... that?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on May 06, 2013, 07:48:15 pm
Huh, okay. I'll go look, It can't be that ba.... WOW!

sucks too, I mean, I wear a fedora because I like the way it looks, now I'm going to be associated with.... that?

You're not the only one on here, a few others on here like fedoras and the fucknuggets have ruined it.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Distind on May 06, 2013, 07:55:43 pm
And the fedora liberation front was formed...

Though honestly there's nicer hats than fedoras. I just think of dragnet every time I see them.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on May 06, 2013, 08:41:35 pm
I think it's time to reclaim the fedora as Indiana Jones's hat.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on May 06, 2013, 08:45:04 pm
By the way:

(http://i.imgur.com/Fr6OtBu.png)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: wrightway on May 06, 2013, 10:11:27 pm
Actually there are black people who support the Klan, and Jews who generally agree with the Nazis. It just doesn't happen with the volume that the working class supports the Republicans.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on May 06, 2013, 10:39:11 pm
Actually there are black people who support the Klan, and Jews who generally agree with the Nazis. It just doesn't happen with the volume that the working class supports the Republicans.

This.

Though from what I've heard, there was an entire chapter of black KKK members.

These are generally the ones that agree with segregation, I think.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ottery on May 06, 2013, 10:43:24 pm
Yeah, there are anti-feminist women, too. I think a lot of it comes from the thought process of that they either misunderstand who they are against (most anti-feminist women think that feminists are against being a stay at home mom), or it is "I got mine, and that's all that matters."
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Rabbit of Caerbannog on May 06, 2013, 10:50:44 pm
Huh, okay. I'll go look, It can't be that ba.... WOW!

sucks too, I mean, I wear a fedora because I like the way it looks, now I'm going to be associated with.... that?

You're not the only one on here, a few others on here like fedoras and the fucknuggets have ruined it.
Much like the sweatervest.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: KZN02 on May 06, 2013, 10:58:04 pm
Actually there are black people who support the Klan, and Jews who generally agree with the Nazis. It just doesn't happen with the volume that the working class supports the Republicans.
You mean the episode showing Garterbelt as a member of the KKK was actually based on fact?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Osama bin Bambi on May 06, 2013, 11:19:20 pm
I think it's time to reclaim the fedora as Indiana Jones's hat.

Ironically, the fedora was named after a female opera character who wore the hat that now bears her name.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on May 07, 2013, 10:27:15 am
(http://i.imgur.com/kPaAHjc.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Diamandahagan on May 07, 2013, 02:01:03 pm
Dunno if it counts but there is this guy. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Burros
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on May 07, 2013, 03:12:18 pm
By the way:

(http://i.imgur.com/Fr6OtBu.png)

There were plenty of "Jewish nazis". They ratted out their fellow Jew and everything else. They may not have been considered a true Nazi but they did help quite a bit to push the nazi agenda.

There are self-hating black people just like the self-hating Jewish people.

Not every Republican is a Republican because they are fiscally conservative (ignoring that being socially conservative does tend to go hand-in-hand with fiscally. But not always).
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on May 08, 2013, 11:41:54 am
(http://i.imgur.com/mYffhXC.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on May 08, 2013, 09:12:58 pm
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/942957_10151373158056167_581991580_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: ThunderWulf on May 08, 2013, 11:06:40 pm
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/942957_10151373158056167_581991580_n.jpg)

Haha, just read about that.  You know you're crazy when advertisers start putting "No Rush" clauses in their contracts.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on May 09, 2013, 01:40:50 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/2bQleUP.png)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on May 09, 2013, 01:41:07 pm
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/946292_10151687901322150_350280934_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on May 09, 2013, 02:11:33 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/2bQleUP.png)
Sigh seems a little Islamophobic
@nikki they are up to 12 years now   
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Feral Dog on May 09, 2013, 03:16:24 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/2bQleUP.png)
Sigh seems a little Islamophobic
@nikki they are up to 12 years now

Islamophobic? The couples involved all seem perfectly happy- it's the individuals in the second panel that have an issue (although the fact that it's an angry woman in the first scenario and a panicked man in the second is interesting...)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on May 09, 2013, 03:44:18 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/BZZTQ.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: mellenORL on May 09, 2013, 03:52:19 pm
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/946292_10151687901322150_350280934_n.jpg)

I assume Bennett has won a Pulitzer by now? How 'bout a Nobel, because these cartoons are that good.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on May 09, 2013, 03:53:26 pm
Sigh seems a little Islamophobic
@nikki they are up to 12 years now   

If it's islamophobic to point out that we and them aren't very different, then I'm all for that sort of islamaphobia.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Jodie on May 09, 2013, 04:06:58 pm
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/946292_10151687901322150_350280934_n.jpg)

I had to look at that a few times to see that the tally marks actually spelled something out. That's awesome. (And now that I see it I can't unsee it, lol).
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on May 09, 2013, 04:07:34 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/AHb8A8R.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on May 09, 2013, 10:10:25 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/2bQleUP.png)
Sigh seems a little Islamophobic
@nikki they are up to 12 years now

Islamophobic? The couples involved all seem perfectly happy- it's the individuals in the second panel that have an issue (although the fact that it's an angry woman in the first scenario and a panicked man in the second is interesting...)

Those burkas are rather form-fitting.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RinellaWasHere on May 09, 2013, 10:25:30 pm
They're actually niqabs- burkhas cover the face too. Though niqabs are loose-fitting too.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on May 09, 2013, 10:34:53 pm
If niqabs looked like that I think women around the world would wear them.

Just because something covers every inch of your skin doesn't mean it can't be provocative.

(Though I think Lady Gaga's proven that with some of her more interesting costumes)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Osama bin Bambi on May 10, 2013, 12:02:34 am
(http://i.imgur.com/AHb8A8R.jpg)

My new OTP.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on May 10, 2013, 07:01:09 am
trigger
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/9686aaf32458e4f13517d022a4bdf9dc/tumblr_mmk749MHpC1qbxkjao1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Dakota Bob on May 10, 2013, 07:33:06 am
Those burkas are rather form-fitting.

I have a new fetish.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Auri-El on May 10, 2013, 08:29:34 am
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/215357_652035128156471_747042726_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Kain on May 10, 2013, 09:09:31 am
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/215357_652035128156471_747042726_n.jpg)

That's brilliant.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on May 10, 2013, 12:12:47 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/adEP3d8.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on May 10, 2013, 12:58:01 pm
They're actually niqabs- burkhas cover the face too. Though niqabs are loose-fitting too.

Thanks for the correction.

If niqabs looked like that I think women around the world would wear them.

Just because something covers every inch of your skin doesn't mean it can't be provocative.

(Though I think Lady Gaga's proven that with some of her more interesting costumes)

I actually agree. Modified, Muslim ladies-wear might be rather cool.


trigger
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/9686aaf32458e4f13517d022a4bdf9dc/tumblr_mmk749MHpC1qbxkjao1_500.jpg)

Man! I hope soon after this, she wields her sword & cuts that blowhard to pieces! I understand the cartoon's saying there's injustice. But should there be reforms, AND THERE WILL BE, EVENTUALLY, this little pansy boy will be in his proper place...in helpless submission to the MIGHTY JUSTICE....after being sliced up a bit!

I've never been raped in my life but this stuff is such a berserk-button to me. Maybe I was brutally raped in a past life. I take this misogyny/woman-beating/rape stuff WAAAAY TOO PERSONALLY.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Meshakhad on May 10, 2013, 01:27:31 pm
We can start with making rape of a fellow soldier a capital offense, and encourage women in the army to kill their rapists.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Itachirumon on May 10, 2013, 02:28:55 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/BZZTQ.jpg)

Well there's Bachmann's problem, she's too stupid to even remember ETHER - there are 5 elements ya stupid git. More if you wanna get into the Fire-Earth, Fire-Air, Earth-Water, Air-Water combos.

She calls herself a Christian and then forgets about the "soul" element.... what is this world coming to -shakes head-
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Sixth Monarchist on May 10, 2013, 05:34:08 pm
Pah! It's Earth, Fire, Water, Metal and Wood (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wu_Xing).
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: ironbite on May 10, 2013, 05:34:36 pm
Close.

Ironbite-but you forgot HEART!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Sour Grapes on May 10, 2013, 05:57:59 pm
(http://www.americanprogress.org//wp-content/uploads/2013/05/051013.jpg)

Got this in my email.  Thought y'all might like it.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Sixth Monarchist on May 10, 2013, 06:10:24 pm
Close.

Ironbite-but you forgot HEART!

Yeah, but What Kind of Lame Power Is Heart, Anyway? (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/WhatKindOfLamePowerIsHeartAnyway)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on May 10, 2013, 06:17:16 pm
Close.

Ironbite-but you forgot HEART!

Yeah, but What Kind of Lame Power Is Heart, Anyway? (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/WhatKindOfLamePowerIsHeartAnyway)

Heart Is An Awesome Power. (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HeartIsAnAwesomePower)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: ironbite on May 10, 2013, 06:19:12 pm
....I hate you all.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on May 10, 2013, 06:34:14 pm
....I hate you all.

I think you'll hate me more in a bit.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on May 10, 2013, 07:05:28 pm
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/d41bcc78a0c7db55f924b89b8c9255ec/tumblr_mmk736dB2p1qbxkjao1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on May 10, 2013, 08:41:13 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/edYs6ad.jpg)
For the record, I have never believed that faith alone is enough to get you into heaven.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on May 10, 2013, 09:12:32 pm
Believe it or not, despite how much they say otherwise, fundiegelicals don't believe it either.

Oh, they believe that all it takes to get into heaven is praying for God's mercy.  However, they believe that good deeds are a "result of allowing yourself to become saved."  And that if someone isn't doing good deeds, then they are clearly lying about being saved.

It's basically a roundabout way to say "Deeds = heaven", which is funny because that's the biggest criticism that protestant evangelicals have of the Catholic church.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: lord gibbon on May 10, 2013, 11:53:37 pm
Yup, that's a common protestant thing. The key is that, in Martin Luther's time, "good deeds was a code for obeying the pope and giving to the church. Seeing as it was all politicized and corrupt, Luther instead said salvation came from faith alone. In other words, it originated from a rejection of corruption, but has now become an excuse.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on May 11, 2013, 12:54:10 am
(http://media.timesfreepress.com/img/photos/2013/05/10/130511_The_Signal_t618.jpg?ba5b5b122dd3d37cc13d83e92a6a0ec0d5bfa32a)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Jack Mann on May 11, 2013, 02:16:16 am
But should there be reforms, AND THERE WILL BE, EVENTUALLY, this little pansy boy will be in his proper place...in helpless submission to the MIGHTY JUSTICE....after being sliced up a bit!

Leadership actually is working on it, at least in the Air Force.  It's going to take a while, though.  It's definitely a culture change, and it's hard to make it happen overnight.  The top brass can mandate all the punishment and correction they want, but until the mid-level leadership starts reporting and enforcing those rules, things won't change.

But there is work being done.  Last December, there was a mass clean-up from the Pentagon on down of lewd and racy material.  No more pin-ups in the office.  No more "morale images" on the computers.  No more pictures that objectify women in the workplace.  That's actually a big step in making it less acceptable.

We have mandatory training on how to respond to sexual harassment.  The focus used to be on teaching women to avoid being harassed.  Now it's just as much on men (and women) confronting others to stop it.

There's still a ways to go.  The recent cases show that a lot of our leadership isn't taking the problem seriously.  But the change is started.  Officers are being trained up now to report these cases.  Eventually, they'll be the ones in charge of squadrons, groups, and wings.  They'll be the ones who deal with this crap.  And the Airmen are learning to say, "Hey, man, cut that shit out."

So, yeah.  I think the leadership is making the right move.  It's not going to happen overnight, as much as we'd like it to.  And it's a shame it's taken this long to deal with the issue.  But at least the process is started.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on May 11, 2013, 02:50:18 am
Bennet is quickly becoming one of my favourite political cartoonists.

(http://www.filibustercartoons.com/comics/20130508.gif)
After thinking about this one I am going to have to agree with the cartoonist. Not only did people put all kinds of impossible goals and hopes for Obama they also forgot about the rest of the political system.

Obama's presidency has had a lot of failings. Some because of him and others because the Rebublicans have been doing their best to stop him from doing anything.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: worlder on May 11, 2013, 03:09:35 am
(http://media.timesfreepress.com/img/photos/2013/05/10/130511_The_Signal_t618.jpg?ba5b5b122dd3d37cc13d83e92a6a0ec0d5bfa32a)

One shouldn't hear a political cartoon, one must feel it like a powerful silent punch to the metaphorical heart.

If you have to play out a conversation in a political cartoon or have things egregiously label, well that's one of the mediocre ones.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: mellenORL on May 11, 2013, 11:23:04 am
Bennett is something far beyond a great cartoonist; an image poet for justice.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on May 11, 2013, 11:57:54 am
I love Bennett's cartoons, he has to be hands down my favorite political cartoonist.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on May 11, 2013, 12:47:36 pm
But should there be reforms, AND THERE WILL BE, EVENTUALLY, this little pansy boy will be in his proper place...in helpless submission to the MIGHTY JUSTICE....after being sliced up a bit!

Leadership actually is working on it, at least in the Air Force.  It's going to take a while, though.  It's definitely a culture change, and it's hard to make it happen overnight.  The top brass can mandate all the punishment and correction they want, but until the mid-level leadership starts reporting and enforcing those rules, things won't change.

But there is work being done.  Last December, there was a mass clean-up from the Pentagon on down of lewd and racy material.  No more pin-ups in the office.  No more "morale images" on the computers.  No more pictures that objectify women in the workplace.  That's actually a big step in making it less acceptable.

We have mandatory training on how to respond to sexual harassment.  The focus used to be on teaching women to avoid being harassed.  Now it's just as much on men (and women) confronting others to stop it.

There's still a ways to go.  The recent cases show that a lot of our leadership isn't taking the problem seriously.  But the change is started.  Officers are being trained up now to report these cases.  Eventually, they'll be the ones in charge of squadrons, groups, and wings.  They'll be the ones who deal with this crap.  And the Airmen are learning to say, "Hey, man, cut that shit out."

So, yeah.  I think the leadership is making the right move.  It's not going to happen overnight, as much as we'd like it to.  And it's a shame it's taken this long to deal with the issue.  But at least the process is started.

AWESOMESAUCE!

LADY JUSTICE WIELDS HER SWORD!....

Also, I've always had the impression that The Air Force was the least macho of the Armed Forces. That's a good thing & it's good that they're really beginning to deal with this issue.

MACHO = WEAK & WIMPY!

Nothing is more unmanly, pathetic, ridiculous, pitiful, useless, stupid & weak than "Hyper-Masculine Machismo".

Plus...AIRPLANES ARE COOL!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Feral Dog on May 11, 2013, 02:25:47 pm

Nothing is more unmanly, pathetic, ridiculous, pitiful, useless, stupid & weak than "Hyper-Masculine Machismo".


Don't tell that to  Coelasquid! (http://thepunchlineismachismo.com)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: worlder on May 11, 2013, 05:14:55 pm
Yup, that's a common protestant thing. The key is that, in Martin Luther's time, "good deeds was a code for obeying the pope and giving to the church. Seeing as it was all politicized and corrupt, Luther instead said salvation came from faith alone. In other words, it originated from a rejection of corruption, but has now become an excuse.

Ah yes the "in principle and in practice" deal.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on May 12, 2013, 12:50:35 am
(http://media.timesfreepress.com/img/photos/2013/05/10/130512_The_Whistle_t618.jpg?ba5b5b122dd3d37cc13d83e92a6a0ec0d5bfa32a)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: mellenORL on May 12, 2013, 01:01:29 am
Another 10!

Hmmm...blow that whistle, and ya blast hot air right up your nose.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on May 12, 2013, 01:23:48 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/qg7f0Qn.gif)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lt. Fred on May 13, 2013, 03:51:42 am
If that's meant to be Mitt Romney, that cartoon is quite unfair to his dad, George Romney, who was a good man and I won't hear a bad word said about him.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Feral Dog on May 13, 2013, 04:12:30 am
If that's meant to be Mitt Romney, that cartoon is quite unfair to his dad, George Romney, who was a good man and I won't hear a bad word said about him.
I'm guessing the 1% badge is supposed to mark that cigar guy represents the wealthiest 1%.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Kit Walker on May 13, 2013, 08:31:19 am
If that's meant to be Mitt Romney, that cartoon is quite unfair to his dad, George Romney, who was a good man and I won't hear a bad word said about him.

It is meant to be Mitt Romney-ish, but it is not meant to represent a literal father-son relationship. It is portraying a certain breed of politicians, represented by Mitt Romney, as the "Jesus" of the Job Creator Trinity - acting out the will of the wealthy in the world of the working class.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Osama bin Bambi on May 13, 2013, 07:09:35 pm
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/269b6e3781cefae0b7c69e04d90d5bf0/tumblr_mmrcgv7mV71r1vqpco1_400.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on May 13, 2013, 07:53:50 pm
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/970217_464931626927879_454576426_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on May 14, 2013, 03:40:09 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/AUsjTXE.jpg)

This is the God I believe in.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on May 14, 2013, 10:18:45 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/AUsjTXE.jpg)

SHA-ZING!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on May 15, 2013, 08:19:24 am
(http://i.imgur.com/php8g2d.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Reality Warper on May 15, 2013, 01:07:39 pm
My point exactly, Dragon.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on May 15, 2013, 05:19:58 pm
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/947197_10151455864686094_1140119359_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Potenatae Argyros on May 15, 2013, 09:33:28 pm
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/947197_10151455864686094_1140119359_n.jpg)

Totally unrelated but it's kind of weird that Dr. Slut Shamer looks like Blaine from Pokémon Red.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on May 15, 2013, 10:28:54 pm
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/942071_458033190954970_1597192270_n.png)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: worlder on May 16, 2013, 12:39:52 am
On the flip side of brevity of political cartoons, an amusing short story is good as well.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Random Gal on May 16, 2013, 01:52:11 am
That brings up a good point, though. What will the next wedge issue be?

Personally, I'm thinking transgender issues, considering they're shadowing gay issues now just like gay issues were previously shadowing racial issues.

Of course, abortion isn't going away any time soon either.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Meshakhad on May 16, 2013, 02:24:18 pm
That brings up a good point, though. What will the next wedge issue be?

Personally, I'm thinking transgender issues, considering they're shadowing gay issues now just like gay issues were previously shadowing racial issues.

Of course, abortion isn't going away any time soon either.

I think there are three possibilities:
1. Operation "Woo the Latinos" works, and the GOP gains a new power base, relying on its usual platform.
2. The GOP doesn't change its policies, or the Latinos continue to vote Democrat, ushering in an era of Democratic dominance.
3. The GOP bites the bullet and jettisons its social conservatives, focusing solely on reducing the size of government. GOP remains a viable party, although some social conservatives either flock to a fringe party or start a new one.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on May 16, 2013, 03:29:09 pm
That brings up a good point, though. What will the next wedge issue be?

Personally, I'm thinking transgender issues, considering they're shadowing gay issues now just like gay issues were previously shadowing racial issues.

Of course, abortion isn't going away any time soon either.

The thing with trans issues is even the LGB part of the spectrum barely know what being trans is unless they're shown the idea some way, some how.

Where I live, you're either a really deep drag queen or you're ultra gay, in fact, if you're trans. It sucks, but it's true.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on May 16, 2013, 03:32:45 pm
Somehow operation make brown people like us is gonna fail
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: wrightway on May 16, 2013, 09:01:14 pm
That brings up a good point, though. What will the next wedge issue be?

Personally, I'm thinking transgender issues, considering they're shadowing gay issues now just like gay issues were previously shadowing racial issues.

Of course, abortion isn't going away any time soon either.

The thing with trans issues is even the LGB part of the spectrum barely know what being trans is unless they're shown the idea some way, some how.

Where I live, you're either a really deep drag queen or you're ultra gay, in fact, if you're trans. It sucks, but it's true.

Some talk show, years back (Tyra maybe?), did an episode on the LGBT spectrum and how we relate to each other.  Trans issues were treated as "belonging" to the community, while bisexual issues were not. The bisexuals were shunned on the stereotypes of "You're a straight girl trying to show off for guys/You're a gay man with one foot in the closet."

It would be interesting to know if this is a geographical phenomenon.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on May 16, 2013, 11:38:03 pm
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/942071_458033190954970_1597192270_n.png)

I love this cartoon.

"GIANT LAUNDRY IS EVIL!"

Good point...great chuckle!

For those wondering "Why do these people vote against their best interests?" this is the answer. Those gosh-darn NeoCon Wedgies!

Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on May 17, 2013, 09:01:10 am
(http://i.imgur.com/OXHhDFq.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Reality Warper on May 17, 2013, 09:22:17 am
Some stuff I found on Chuckle A Duck:

(http://chuckleaduck.com/comics/2013-05-08CAD423DoesntMean.jpg)

(http://chuckleaduck.com/comics/2013-05-17CAD428MoreForMe.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on May 17, 2013, 12:08:47 pm
Pretty good.  Here's another from that same website

(http://chuckleaduck.com/comics/2010-06-25OT106Immig.png)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Reality Warper on May 17, 2013, 12:14:30 pm
(http://www.jewishjournal.com/images/thegodblog_images/cartoon-701630.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on May 17, 2013, 12:15:57 pm
(http://hiram7.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/holy.jpg?w=450)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: KZN02 on May 17, 2013, 01:14:31 pm
Some stuff I found on Chuckle A Duck:
(http://chuckleaduck.com/comics/2013-05-17CAD428MoreForMe.jpg)
But what about lesbians?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Damen on May 17, 2013, 01:21:56 pm
Some stuff I found on Chuckle A Duck:
-pic snip-
But what about lesbians?

Shut up!

Let the rest of us hope and dream. :'(
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on May 17, 2013, 01:34:02 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/eGGbX8R.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on May 17, 2013, 01:38:40 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/eGGbX8R.jpg)

This thought always brings solace to me.....when especially-hateful, sociopathic fundies all shuffle off this mortal coil, this will be the BIG RUDE AWAKENING.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on May 17, 2013, 01:57:05 pm
(http://0.tqn.com/d/politicalhumor/1/0/w/1/5/Wayne-Lapierre.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Reality Warper on May 17, 2013, 02:29:32 pm
(http://feministactivism.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/political-cartoon1.jpg?w=490&h=328)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Osama bin Bambi on May 17, 2013, 05:11:32 pm
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/ea2ebe84d8559ded5dca63a5c876bec1/tumblr_mmy0uro58n1qj171uo1_1280.png)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lt. Fred on May 17, 2013, 05:31:36 pm
(http://www.jewishjournal.com/images/thegodblog_images/cartoon-701630.jpg)

Pretty much.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on May 17, 2013, 07:58:09 pm
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/ea2ebe84d8559ded5dca63a5c876bec1/tumblr_mmy0uro58n1qj171uo1_1280.png)

*BLECCH*

Even A & F, in all it's douchebagginess, has the wherewithal to plaster sexed-up, provocative, half-naked hot GUYS alongside the  sexed-up gals (at least the ads, anyway, though they can be misogynist in their own way.). They're equal-opportunity objectifiers!

American Apparel, however....*bleeehhh*....

Being a sex-positive Feminist who has no problem with general sexing-up of stuff, I say, "If you're gonna plaster half-naked hotties on your stuff, be equal-opportunity....'cheesecake' needs 'beefcake' (or slim, cute beefcake), otherwise you're a sexist pig".
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cataclysm on May 17, 2013, 09:10:37 pm
Some stuff I found on Chuckle A Duck:
(click to show/hide)
But what about lesbians?

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/GirlOnGirlIsHot
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: DiscoBerry on May 18, 2013, 12:02:34 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/tsX2mD9.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on May 18, 2013, 03:12:46 pm
(http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/258/7/d/wolf_in_sheep__s_clothing_by_humon-d2yrljn.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: mellenORL on May 18, 2013, 03:16:28 pm
Oooooo I wanna post that 'toon on a radfemscum tumblr  ;D

Good artist; you can tell it's a "she wolf".
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Morgenleoht on May 18, 2013, 06:56:09 pm
Oooooo I wanna post that 'toon on a radfemscum tumblr  ;D

Good artist; you can tell it's a "she wolf".

DO IT. And screencaps the reactions for our amusement. ;)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on May 18, 2013, 07:21:50 pm
(http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/258/7/d/wolf_in_sheep__s_clothing_by_humon-d2yrljn.jpg)

I agree with this toon. RadFems are a blight & make the Feminist Movement look bad!

Hyper-Fanatics in ANYTHING ruin everything! I'd imagine that many of them are CONTELPRO plants.

A "wolf-in-sheep's-clothing" implies an impostor or mole. I'll bet many of these wolves are actually Stepfords like Ann Coulter or Janet Brewer.

I want that cute pink sheep on the left in doll form. The kawaii is earth-shattering.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on May 18, 2013, 08:31:08 pm
(http://04varvara.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/01f-political-cartoon-29-07.jpg?w=1000)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on May 18, 2013, 08:43:48 pm
Oooooo I wanna post that 'toon on a radfemscum tumblr  ;D

Good artist; you can tell it's a "she wolf".

DO IT. And screencaps the reactions for our amusement. ;)

PLEASE SHOW THE SCREENCAPS! DO IIIIIT!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on May 18, 2013, 09:18:42 pm
(http://04varvara.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/01f-political-cartoon-29-07.jpg?w=1000)

TEALIBAN GUY SEZ, "*DERP!*"
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Sigmaleph on May 18, 2013, 09:43:34 pm
RadFems are a blight & make the Feminist Movement look bad!

Hyper-Fanatics in ANYTHING ruin everything! I'd imagine that many of them are CONTELPRO plants.

A "wolf-in-sheep's-clothing" implies an impostor or mole. I'll bet many of these wolves are actually Stepfords like Ann Coulter or Janet Brewer.
There's no need to posit a mole. Sadly, it doesn't take an infiltration for people to go nuts over a fundamentally good idea.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Reality Warper on May 18, 2013, 09:48:23 pm
RadFems are a blight & make the Feminist Movement look bad!

Hyper-Fanatics in ANYTHING ruin everything! I'd imagine that many of them are CONTELPRO plants.

A "wolf-in-sheep's-clothing" implies an impostor or mole. I'll bet many of these wolves are actually Stepfords like Ann Coulter or Janet Brewer.
There's no need to posit a mole. Sadly, it doesn't take an infiltration for people to go nuts over a fundamentally good idea.
No it doesn't.  There weren't any moles in the Gun Rights movement.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on May 18, 2013, 09:49:45 pm
*snip*

TEALIBAN GUY SEZ, "*DERP!*"
It's sad that ignorance is so popular among these morons...
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Reality Warper on May 18, 2013, 09:53:28 pm
*snip*

TEALIBAN GUY SEZ, "*DERP!*"
It's sad that ignorance is so popular among these morons...
Yes, it truly is.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on May 18, 2013, 09:56:02 pm
(http://c1planetsavecom.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/files/2011/09/climate-change-political-cartoon.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cataclysm on May 18, 2013, 10:25:31 pm
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/11919_10151426568628736_536477597_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on May 18, 2013, 11:09:09 pm
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/11919_10151426568628736_536477597_n.jpg)
Excellent!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on May 19, 2013, 02:11:37 am
*snip*

TEALIBAN GUY SEZ, "*DERP!*"
It's sad that ignorance is so popular among these morons...

To these dorks: "Ignorance Is Next To Godliness".

My Response To Them: "What goes down must come up! *BLLLAAAUUGH*!"
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RavynousHunter on May 19, 2013, 03:47:51 am
My response to the bastards: may you live in interesting times and attract the attention of important people.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Itachirumon on May 19, 2013, 09:55:25 am
My response to the bastards: may you live in interesting times and attract the attention of important people.

I would add the 3rd part - may they find what they are looking for.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on May 19, 2013, 10:26:33 am
Here, have some Bennett:
(http://media.timesfreepress.com/img/photos/2013/05/17/130518_The_Critic_t618.jpg?ba5b5b122dd3d37cc13d83e92a6a0ec0d5bfa32a)

(http://media.timesfreepress.com/img/photos/2013/05/17/130619_Military_Justice_t618.jpg?ba5b5b122dd3d37cc13d83e92a6a0ec0d5bfa32a)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on May 19, 2013, 01:17:46 pm
(http://www.leftycartoons.com/wp-content/uploads/types_of_libertarian1.png)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Reality Warper on May 19, 2013, 01:20:33 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/vZOS3ez.png)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on May 19, 2013, 01:24:38 pm
(http://dakiniland.files.wordpress.com/2013/02/libertarian-evolution.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Reality Warper on May 19, 2013, 04:21:06 pm
(http://thedailyobjectivist.files.wordpress.com/2012/11/artistic-anti-objectivism.jpg?w=479)
Fuck blind obedience!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on May 19, 2013, 04:25:46 pm
(http://thedailyobjectivist.files.wordpress.com/2012/11/artistic-anti-objectivism.jpg?w=479)
Fuck blind obedience!
Was that cartoon done by an Objectivist?  It certainly looks like it.

That's not to invalidate the message, of course.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Reality Warper on May 19, 2013, 04:42:58 pm
(http://www.bay-of-fundie.com/img/2008/objectivism.gif)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on May 19, 2013, 05:15:33 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/8jpKQrn.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Itachirumon on May 19, 2013, 10:31:43 pm
I feel like for the libertarian cartoon the "denial-ist' should be a caricature of Lou Dobbs....

Otherwise, spot on.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on May 19, 2013, 10:58:17 pm
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/971265_10201343003044095_960175731_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Distind on May 20, 2013, 06:44:29 am
I feel like for the libertarian cartoon the "denial-ist' should be a caricature of Lou Dobbs....

Otherwise, spot on.
I want one more so I can use the stoner as a free space and have a bingo card.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lt. Fred on May 20, 2013, 07:59:40 am
(http://dakiniland.files.wordpress.com/2013/02/libertarian-evolution.jpg)

Yep, dead on.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Diamandahagan on May 20, 2013, 11:18:04 am
(http://thedailyobjectivist.files.wordpress.com/2012/11/artistic-anti-objectivism.jpg?w=479)
Fuck blind obedience!
Was that cartoon done by an Objectivist?  It certainly looks like it.

That's not to invalidate the message, of course.

That from the 'Action Philosophers' comic bio of Ayn Rand.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Reality Warper on May 20, 2013, 07:25:37 pm
(http://thedailyobjectivist.files.wordpress.com/2012/11/artistic-anti-objectivism.jpg?w=479)
Fuck blind obedience!
Was that cartoon done by an Objectivist?  It certainly looks like it.

That's not to invalidate the message, of course.

That from the 'Action Philosophers' comic bio of Ayn Rand.
Wait, Diamanda Hagan visits this board?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on May 20, 2013, 07:28:36 pm
*snip*
Wait, Diamanda Hagan visits this board?
Yes, she does.  You're a fan, Mr. Warper?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Reality Warper on May 20, 2013, 07:29:52 pm
*snip*
Wait, Diamanda Hagan visits this board?
Yes, she does.  You're a fan, Mr. Warper?
It's "Ms. Warper", and yes, I am.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on May 20, 2013, 07:30:49 pm
*snip*
Wait, Diamanda Hagan visits this board?
Yes, she does.  You're a fan, Mr. Warper?
It's "Ms. Warper", and yes, I am.
I'm also a fan.  Bit of a surprise to find out she visits this site.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on May 20, 2013, 07:38:52 pm
She has for quite a few years, actually.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Reality Warper on May 20, 2013, 08:09:28 pm
(http://www.cartoonstock.com/newscartoons/cartoonists/pfe/lowres/pfen301l.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on May 20, 2013, 08:14:45 pm
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/971265_10201343003044095_960175731_n.jpg)
To continue with this theme:
(http://www.trbimg.com/img-51947433/turbine/la-na-tt-firing-irs-boss-20130515-001/600)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Reality Warper on May 20, 2013, 08:17:58 pm
(http://media.cagle.com/53/2013/04/28/130929_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Diamandahagan on May 20, 2013, 08:34:52 pm
Hiya Warper and Dragon! I'm glad you have fun watching my vids!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on May 20, 2013, 08:40:42 pm
Hiya Warper and Dragon! I'm glad you have fun watching my vids!
I'm glad I discovered you.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Reality Warper on May 20, 2013, 08:43:27 pm
Hiya Warper and Dragon! I'm glad you have fun watching my vids!
I'm glad I discovered you.
As am I.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on May 20, 2013, 08:45:07 pm
(http://www.gastongazette.com/polopoly_fs/1.28830.1350073993!/fileImage/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_605/daily-political-cartoon-10-15-12.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on May 20, 2013, 10:20:03 pm
(http://www.gastongazette.com/polopoly_fs/1.28830.1350073993!/fileImage/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_605/daily-political-cartoon-10-15-12.jpg)

*Gives Obama a big hug*
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: ironbite on May 21, 2013, 12:52:40 am
*snip*
Wait, Diamanda Hagan visits this board?
Yes, she does.  You're a fan, Mr. Warper?
It's "Ms. Warper", and yes, I am.
I'm also a fan.  Bit of a surprise to find out she visits this site.

Yeah she's been posting here for years.  Before she reveled in her DiamandaHaganess, she went by her real name.

Ironbite-but then again you two are relative newbies so I doubt you knew that
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lt. Fred on May 21, 2013, 08:32:06 am
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/971265_10201343003044095_960175731_n.jpg)
To continue with this theme:
(http://www.trbimg.com/img-51947433/turbine/la-na-tt-firing-irs-boss-20130515-001/600)

The judge should be Obama. He accepted their resignations, after all. If you think the decision was wrong, you think Obama did the wrong thing (I don't).
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on May 21, 2013, 11:17:42 am
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/293708_516466555066132_951638196_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Sixth Monarchist on May 21, 2013, 04:32:47 pm
"Hey, calm down PAC-Man. For the forseeable future it'll still be one dollar, one vote."
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on May 22, 2013, 08:38:39 am
(http://i.imgur.com/1Vy4YfH.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Reality Warper on May 22, 2013, 11:23:52 am
(http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/333/448/bf0.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on May 22, 2013, 01:27:49 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/5366p6C.jpg?1)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on May 22, 2013, 01:48:31 pm
It's missing the stoner guy that's been there for years, and will still be there after you graduate.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on May 22, 2013, 01:51:12 pm
It's missing the stoner guy that's been there for years, and will still be there after you graduation.
I also noticed a few others missing, like the Frat Bro, the Class Clown, the Meathead, the Airhead, and the Prep.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on May 22, 2013, 01:59:50 pm
(http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/333/448/bf0.jpg)
Now there's a sad truth if I ever saw one.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Reality Warper on May 22, 2013, 02:11:50 pm
(http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/333/448/bf0.jpg)
Now there's a sad truth if I ever saw one.
Yes, it truly is.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on May 22, 2013, 02:13:25 pm
(http://04varvara.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/01-political-cartoon-4.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Reality Warper on May 22, 2013, 02:19:28 pm
Anyone with eyes can see that.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on May 22, 2013, 02:20:13 pm
Yeah, but unfortunately, the Republicans seem to be blind AND stupid.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Reality Warper on May 22, 2013, 02:21:18 pm
(http://04varvara.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/01d-political-cartoon-29-07.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on May 22, 2013, 02:21:52 pm
That's an accurate portrayal of the Tea Party if I ever saw it.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Itachirumon on May 22, 2013, 02:55:19 pm
Who raised Choksondik from the dead? Being dead seems to have aged her rather significantly....
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: ThunderWulf on May 23, 2013, 12:53:30 am
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/181410_595247150493603_1513455446_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on May 23, 2013, 01:18:48 am
First it was Lupus, now it's herpes...what can you say, FOX News is just a big fat disease factory.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: mythbuster43 on May 23, 2013, 01:41:23 am
First it was Lupus, now it's herpes...what can you say, FOX News is just a big fat disease factory.

I think Greg Gutfeld is just hilariously bad at figuring out how to strong words together.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on May 23, 2013, 02:15:08 pm
(http://www.answersingenesis.org/assets/images/articles/2006/05/cartoonist_carnival.gif)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Reality Warper on May 23, 2013, 04:20:44 pm
(http://www.answersingenesis.org/assets/images/articles/2006/05/cartoonist_carnival.gif)
Great cartoon!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on May 23, 2013, 04:22:06 pm
Thanks.  Gussying up creationism by calling it "intelligent design" is like calling a hooker an "escort".
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Sixth Monarchist on May 23, 2013, 05:20:05 pm
Thanks.  Gussying up creationism by calling it "intelligent design" is like calling a hooker an "escort".

That's incredibly unfair to hookers.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on May 23, 2013, 05:26:48 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/98ibR7I.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lt. Fred on May 23, 2013, 06:02:38 pm
(http://04varvara.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/01d-political-cartoon-29-07.jpg)

Apparently, we don't know what ideology means.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on May 23, 2013, 07:42:09 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/xz1m4ul.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on May 23, 2013, 09:08:15 pm
I'm not sure that's pro-Obama, there. But I suppose it doesn't have to be to be "good". The message itself seems wrong to me, tho.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Reality Warper on May 23, 2013, 09:08:20 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/xz1m4ul.jpg)
Bully!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on May 23, 2013, 09:09:24 pm
I'm not sure that's pro-Obama, there.
It doesn't have to be.  It raises a question of how much our government is controlled by business interests.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on May 23, 2013, 09:10:49 pm
I edited but apparently not quickly enough because I thought over my reply a bit more.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on May 23, 2013, 09:11:28 pm
Really, what is objective "good"?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on May 23, 2013, 09:15:20 pm
That depends on what part of a comic you're looking at, doesn't it? I usually go for message.

But it wouldn't be the first time I'd been dubious about where a cartoon should go. It doesn't necessarily matter in the long run, though. So I guess we can move on.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on May 23, 2013, 09:27:16 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/KWDjh5t.gif)
Wish I'd had this response when my wife said this to me.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on May 23, 2013, 11:10:16 pm
For what it's worth I think Obama looks quite sad/depressed/dead about the idea of being a corporate slave in that cartoon.

Though that's just me reading into it more than needs be.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on May 24, 2013, 08:05:38 am
(http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/549/031/0ea.jpg)

Sad thing is, I've actually seen people do this.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Reality Warper on May 24, 2013, 10:57:58 am
(http://www.leftycartoons.com/wp-content/uploads/immigration_blame2.png)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on May 24, 2013, 11:04:42 am
Agreed completely.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Reality Warper on May 24, 2013, 11:20:30 am
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lov7x8WF561qizl0so1_500.gif)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on May 24, 2013, 11:22:24 am
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lov7x8WF561qizl0so1_500.gif)
Yeah, I wish more people would understand that the Confederacy was all about racism.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on May 24, 2013, 11:27:42 am
(http://media.townhall.com/Townhall/Car/b/ca082610dBP20100824054517.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Zygarde on May 24, 2013, 11:30:28 am
(http://media.townhall.com/Townhall/Car/b/ca082610dBP20100824054517.jpg)
And this my friends is why I wish they would get rid of abstinence only education.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on May 24, 2013, 11:39:34 am
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-610ZgXrm8tA/UIvwYuXpGqI/AAAAAAAADZQ/wFAiNe2bMnc/s1600/GOP+big+tent.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Reality Warper on May 24, 2013, 11:42:19 am
(http://bdrcblog.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/immigration_history_color.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on May 24, 2013, 11:44:01 am
(http://bdrcblog.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/immigration_history_color.jpg)
This is why I think immigration reform is long overdue.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on May 24, 2013, 12:27:13 pm
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/984034_586904518007924_1411234933_n.jpg)

(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/379630_520749571296077_1291775462_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Reality Warper on May 24, 2013, 01:14:02 pm
(http://i894.photobucket.com/albums/ac143/ThisIsMyTime_2010/080511/RacistCartoon.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on May 24, 2013, 01:23:54 pm
(http://i894.photobucket.com/albums/ac143/ThisIsMyTime_2010/080511/RacistCartoon.jpg)
Nothing's ever good enough for the GOP hardliners, is it?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Reality Warper on May 24, 2013, 09:02:32 pm
(http://i894.photobucket.com/albums/ac143/ThisIsMyTime_2010/080511/RacistCartoon.jpg)
Nothing's ever good enough for the GOP hardliners, is it?
Of course not.  They don't want a compromise, they just want to have it their way.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on May 24, 2013, 09:14:29 pm
(http://i894.photobucket.com/albums/ac143/ThisIsMyTime_2010/080511/RacistCartoon.jpg)
Nothing's ever good enough for the GOP hardliners, is it?
Of course not.  They don't want a compromise, they just want to have it their way.
Don't you miss the days when the democrats and the republicans could actually work together?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: R. U. Sirius on May 25, 2013, 12:46:31 am
You mean like when they would attack each other with walking sticks on the Senate floor?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: mythbuster43 on May 25, 2013, 12:55:41 am
You mean like when they would attack each other with walking sticks on the Senate floor?

To be fair, that wasn't that common even back then. It only happened if someone got really pissed off.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Yla on May 25, 2013, 04:59:11 pm
(http://media.townhall.com/Townhall/Car/b/ca082610dBP20100824054517.jpg)
That cartoon is somehow... lacking.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on May 25, 2013, 06:57:02 pm
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/984034_586904518007924_1411234933_n.jpg)

(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/379630_520749571296077_1291775462_n.jpg)

The boy's "*BLECCH*" face is priceless! ;D
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: mythbuster43 on May 25, 2013, 07:03:13 pm
(http://media.townhall.com/Townhall/Car/b/ca082610dBP20100824054517.jpg)
That cartoon is somehow... lacking.

It was Chuck Asay, and posted at Clownhall.com, so I think it was meant to be pro abstinence only. It's funny when cartoons like this backfire.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Jack the Monster on May 28, 2013, 09:13:22 am
(http://0.tqn.com/d/politicalhumor/1/0/-/q/3/TSA-Rape.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on May 28, 2013, 10:38:16 am
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/3400ca94230195348cca8884e47158ab/tumblr_mnihlulAnq1rheanso1_500.png)

/end thread
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Her3tiK on May 28, 2013, 08:36:22 pm
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/3400ca94230195348cca8884e47158ab/tumblr_mnihlulAnq1rheanso1_500.png)

/end thread
Go home, everybody. Booker wins.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Meshakhad on May 28, 2013, 10:11:17 pm
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/3400ca94230195348cca8884e47158ab/tumblr_mnihlulAnq1rheanso1_500.png)

/end thread

(http://www.israeltoday.co.il/portals/0/news/110829_robotarmy.jpg)

Actually, from the source article:

http://www.israeltoday.co.il/tabid/178/nid/22929/language/en-US/Default.aspx

Quote
As effective as Israel is at utilizing its human resources in times of conflict, the Israeli army may be on the verge of fielding the first fully robotic fighting force.

Israel's Ministry of Defense recently issued a call for the creation of an "Advance Guard," a robotic vanguard that will lead the charge in future battles in order to minimize human casualties.

The bi-monthly journal IsraelDefense reported that numerous Israeli defense contractors are working hard to meet the challenge.

Israel already makes extensive use of robotics for the purpose of surveillance. Israeli unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs) are some of the most sophisticated and effective in the world.

But this new project is about creating robots that will actually do the fighting, or at least handle the initial armed push against entrenched enemies.

"The basic idea is for robots to function as a strike force, leading the way in the first stage of engagement with the enemy, which usually results in heavy casualties," explained IsraelDefense.

And Israel is not just talking about remote-controlled weapons systems here. The vision of Advance Guard is on par with any number of science fiction-based descriptions of futuristic warfare.

One of the chief requirements the Israeli military has given to the firms working on Advance Guard is that the robotic warriors (which will NOT look like the image above) be able to autonomously select and engage targets and to coordinate attacks with one another, without human input.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: chad sexington on May 28, 2013, 10:16:36 pm
Dammit, Israel!  If you're responsible for the inevitable Robotic Apocalypse...  >:(
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Meshakhad on May 28, 2013, 11:16:08 pm
Dammit, Israel!  If you're responsible for the inevitable Robotic Apocalypse...  >:(

Fortunately, they're only talking about sending in the robots as the first wave.

Still, it would be terrifyingly awesome if Israel did deploy robotic soldiers.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: ScrappyB on May 28, 2013, 11:25:46 pm
(http://bdrcblog.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/immigration_history_color.jpg)

This reminded me of this:

(http://hti.osu.edu/sites/default/files/Immigration_5.jpg)

The above cartoon is from 1893. The text at the bottom reads "They would close to the new-comer the bridge that carried them and their fathers over."

The more things change, the more they stay the same...
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on May 29, 2013, 01:31:02 am
Oh.  I don't really want any Isralei soldiers deployed period
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Meshakhad on May 29, 2013, 04:09:07 am
Oh.  I don't really want any Isralei soldiers deployed period

Look on the bright side - this could lead to a future where wars are fought entirely by robots.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Vypernight on May 29, 2013, 04:40:50 am
Oh.  I don't really want any Isralei soldiers deployed period

Look on the bright side - this could lead to a future where wars are fought entirely by robots.

Until we have to fight the ones who turn on us.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Random Gal on May 29, 2013, 06:43:31 am
In the event of robot uprising, initiate zombie apocalypse. Or vice-versa if zombie apocalypse happens first.

Either way, everybody hides until one side wins and then we destroy the survivors before they have a chance to rebuild.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: agentCDE on May 29, 2013, 07:52:44 am
But zombies don't stand a chance against robots, robots don't have brains to nom.

And what if they start working together? The zombies get the brains, the robots get the batteries, humanity gets screwed!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lt. Fred on May 29, 2013, 07:58:54 am
Oh.  I don't really want any Isralei soldiers deployed period

Look on the bright side - this could lead to a future where wars are fought entirely by robots.

Going to give the Palestinians a couple, are we?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on May 30, 2013, 12:22:28 am
(http://media.timesfreepress.com/img/photos/2013/05/29/130530_Michele_Bachmann_t618.jpg?ba5b5b122dd3d37cc13d83e92a6a0ec0d5bfa32a)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on May 30, 2013, 10:45:49 am
Linked for size (http://www.suttonimpactstudio.com/image/51724843912)

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/401101_530540697003606_1208127307_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on May 30, 2013, 03:30:54 pm
(http://media.timesfreepress.com/img/photos/2013/05/29/130530_Michele_Bachmann_t618.jpg?ba5b5b122dd3d37cc13d83e92a6a0ec0d5bfa32a)

Spectacular! Bye bye, Batscat Shelly!


Linked for size (http://www.suttonimpactstudio.com/image/51724843912)

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/401101_530540697003606_1208127307_n.jpg)

Sadly, so true. We need to change.

Hypocritical considering my "Bye bye, Batscat Shelly" comment...*sigh*...old habits die hard but we must learn to be civil & tactful, again.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Emperor Maximilian on June 02, 2013, 04:39:43 pm
(http://www.anvari.org/db/cols/Political_Cartoons_about_Iran/Cartoon_01.gif)
Honestly, is anybody buying their "for power only" claptrap?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Osama bin Bambi on June 02, 2013, 04:44:19 pm
(http://www.anvari.org/db/cols/Political_Cartoons_about_Iran/Cartoon_01.gif)
Honestly, is anybody buying their "for power only" claptrap?

MOD MODE ON:

Seriously, Dynamic Dragon? You're not even trying anymore. You are being permabanned for ban-dodging.

MOD MODE OFF.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: ironbite on June 02, 2013, 04:59:12 pm
Was that another Dragon sock-puppet?

Ironbite-time for an IP ban me thinks.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on June 02, 2013, 05:03:46 pm
"Total Time Spent Online:22 minutes."

LOL wow.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lt. Fred on June 02, 2013, 08:09:59 pm
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/401101_530540697003606_1208127307_n.jpg)

I disagree that this is a substantial problem, or rather that the emphasis is wrong. Honesty and serious rational inquiry have been lost and that has a serious impact on public policy and therefore my life. I don't care about people being nice to each other in the US Senate. Shout away, but be honest and don't be shallow morons.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cerim Treascair on June 02, 2013, 08:37:25 pm
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/401101_530540697003606_1208127307_n.jpg)

I disagree that this is a substantial problem, or rather that the emphasis is wrong. Honesty and serious rational inquiry have been lost and that has a serious impact on public policy and therefore my life. I don't care about people being nice to each other in the US Senate. Shout away, but be honest and don't be shallow morons.

I dunno, I'd kinda like to see Senator Wyden from my home state of Oregon punch out Senator Inhofe.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on June 02, 2013, 08:40:46 pm
...Who said anything about the US Senate?

We're talking about social interaction.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lt. Fred on June 02, 2013, 08:42:49 pm
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/401101_530540697003606_1208127307_n.jpg)

I disagree that this is a substantial problem, or rather that the emphasis is wrong. Honesty and serious rational inquiry have been lost and that has a serious impact on public policy and therefore my life. I don't care about people being nice to each other in the US Senate. Shout away, but be honest and don't be shallow morons.

I dunno, I'd kinda like to see Senator Wyden from my home state of Oregon punch out Senator Inhofe.

Yeah, I'd quite like to see Tammy Baldwin or the Iraq War veteran who's name I cannot at the moment recall beat down on some conservative bigot, Sumpter-style.

...Who said anything about the US Senate?

We're talking about social interaction.

Admittedly it doesn't explicitly mention politics, but the sentiment is usually angled in that direction. Obviously, there's no evidence that civility in regular social discourse is less evident today than fifty or eighty years ago.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Meshakhad on June 03, 2013, 10:00:38 pm
I actually think it might help if Congress had a brawl every once in a while.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Distind on June 04, 2013, 06:24:40 am
I actually think it might help if Congress had a brawl every once in a while.
I could run with this as my platform, I'd need to run somewhere else though, my local folks are pretty well entrenched.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Itachirumon on June 04, 2013, 06:02:32 pm
I actually think it might help if Congress had a brawl every once in a while.
I could run with this as my platform, I'd need to run somewhere else though, my local folks are pretty well entrenched.

Come to sunny San Diego - as long as you promise not to jack it in the street and get rid of that scumbag Darrel "BENWARRGARBLGAZIGATE" Issa, you've got my vote.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lt. Fred on June 05, 2013, 02:23:39 am
I actually think it might help if Congress had a brawl every once in a while.
I could run with this as my platform, I'd need to run somewhere else though, my local folks are pretty well entrenched.

You'll need air support.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: ironbite on June 05, 2013, 06:55:53 pm
Not really.  All you need are tanks/lighthorseman.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on June 05, 2013, 10:30:59 pm
Not really.  All you need are tanks/lighthorseman.


Did you have to say that? Now he's gonna come back.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RavynousHunter on June 06, 2013, 12:59:33 am
Not really.  All you need are tanks/lighthorseman.


Did you have to say that? Now he's gonna come back.

Wanna start a betting pool on how long ol Lighty'd last this time?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cerim Treascair on June 06, 2013, 06:46:48 pm
a nickle on 3 minutes, 28 seconds.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Random Gal on June 07, 2013, 02:43:29 am
(http://www.thepaincomics.com/Science%20vs.%20Norse.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Itachirumon on June 07, 2013, 04:53:18 am
Random Guy....making creationism awesome.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lt. Fred on June 07, 2013, 09:06:31 am
Not really.  All you need are tanks/lighthorseman.

Cavalry against entrenched senators? No chance.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on June 07, 2013, 09:31:22 am
Random Guy....making creationism awesome.
I think the credit should go to Tim Kreider.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: mellenORL on June 07, 2013, 11:07:33 am
(http://www.thepaincomics.com/Science%20vs.%20Norse.jpg)

But-but-but-but.....The Holey Babble is TRUUUUUUUUEEE~ No fair!

I love this juxtaposition. Really puts things in a clear perspective. And it makes for a damn funny cartoon. ;D
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on June 08, 2013, 12:46:23 am
(http://i0.wp.com/thebigslice.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/The-Past-in-the-Present.jpg?resize=616%2C462)

Random Guy....making creationism awesome.
That's because Norse mythology is awesome, you don't see Jesus being a marvel comic book hero, do you??
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Feral Dog on June 08, 2013, 02:42:08 am
That picture of Ymir, suckling a cow and looking PISSED OFF about it is too funny.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Itachirumon on June 08, 2013, 02:43:36 am
That picture of Ymir, suckling a cow and looking PISSED OFF about it is too funny.

.....And now I'm picturing that South Park parody of 300 but with Ymir suckling a cow instead of Ms. Garrison making coffee.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Dynamic Dragon on June 08, 2013, 02:59:37 pm
(http://0.tqn.com/d/politicalhumor/1/0/v/2/5/Paranoid-Right.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Distind on June 08, 2013, 07:17:28 pm
That's because Norse mythology is awesome, you don't see Jesus being a marvel comic book hero, do you??
Just because:
(click to show/hide)

Ok, so not marvel, but the same artist can be blamed for plenty of marvel's atrocities. Or was that marvel... I really don't want it to have been.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Crystal-King on June 08, 2013, 09:14:49 pm
That's because Norse mythology is awesome, you don't see Jesus being a marvel comic book hero, do you??
Just because:
(click to show/hide)

Ok, so not marvel, but the same artist can be blamed for plenty of marvel's atrocities. Or was that marvel... I really don't want it to have been.

Pretty sure it was one of Rob's own personal works over at Image. Glory and something or another. I dunno. Most I know about Glory is that the reboot series was freakin' awesome.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Osama bin Bambi on June 08, 2013, 11:40:42 pm
(http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2013/146/4/d/when_drones_fly____by_nayzak-d66onai.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: ScrappyB on June 11, 2013, 05:48:52 am
A few on the NSA leaks.

(http://media.cagle.com/47/2013/06/10/132968_600.jpg)

(http://media.cagle.com/205/2013/06/07/132869_600.jpg)

(http://media.cagle.com/47/2013/06/07/132860_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: worlder on June 11, 2013, 01:10:51 pm
Do we really need to label "China" on Xi Jinping's suit?

Or do the readers seriously need that hint so they would know which foreign leader is being presented?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: ScrappyB on June 11, 2013, 01:59:51 pm
Do we really need to label "China" on Xi Jinping's suit?

Or do the readers seriously need that hint so they would know which foreign leader is being presented?

Considering most Americans wouldn't recognize the name and probably don't even know who he is...
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Osama bin Bambi on June 11, 2013, 02:00:49 pm
Do we really need to label "China" on Xi Jinping's suit?

Or do the readers seriously need that hint so they would know which foreign leader is being presented?

Considering most Americans probably don't even know who he is...

As stupid as this sounds, a lot of Americans can't tell the difference between Chinese names, Japanese names, Korean names, etc.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on June 11, 2013, 07:10:04 pm
It's not just Americans. I've met people all over the world who don't keep up with politics and current events if it doesn't suit them.

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/d658331775d7ac83fbae6a1ec8d9d87d/tumblr_mo7zvvvtg61rqw445o1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: worlder on June 11, 2013, 07:58:45 pm
Well we are all guilty of it to one degree or another.

I mean who here can name the current head of government of say... Chile, without using Google.

Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Sigmaleph on June 11, 2013, 09:47:49 pm
Sebastián Piñera.

I might have an unfair advantage here.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: chad sexington on June 12, 2013, 10:29:40 pm
Somewhat NSFW (http://gawker.com/bottoms-up-heres-to-the-end-of-sean-delonas-511880482)

^
Click for pic and context.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on June 12, 2013, 10:34:30 pm
"Protip: This is not how you use a toilet plunger"

That made me laugh harder than it should've.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on June 13, 2013, 07:19:04 pm
ON ANOTHER SUBJECT, I MADE THIS:
(http://i755.photobucket.com/albums/xx200/BarbarellaSteele1975/Much-Used%20FSTDT%20Stock%20Images/da7f6770-f7ca-4677-bf84-ce21069ad17d_zps1ff92782.jpg) (http://s755.photobucket.com/user/BarbarellaSteele1975/media/Much-Used%20FSTDT%20Stock%20Images/da7f6770-f7ca-4677-bf84-ce21069ad17d_zps1ff92782.jpg.html)
What do you think? I applied my budding shopping skills on a famous illustration!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: chad sexington on June 16, 2013, 11:14:28 am
Message is kinda meh, but this cartoon is just adorable :D

(http://i.imgur.com/dhcOWB1.png)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: worlder on June 16, 2013, 02:08:35 pm
Yeah if the nation is going to intervene, it shouldn't give some half assed effort.

Of course the last few times we gave full attention the returns weren't as high as we had thought. Unless we are talking about the return rate of body bags, then it would mean success... for the undertaker.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Osama bin Bambi on June 16, 2013, 05:14:53 pm
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/984d96131afefbca85af1dcdc6cb8a5f/tumblr_mofto1Aro91qkivpqo1_1280.png)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on June 17, 2013, 12:25:50 pm
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/972137_10200097395623862_498268092_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on June 17, 2013, 06:13:37 pm
I've stopped being able to tell whether these are from left-wing sources or right-wing sources.

I consider this a positive, mind.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on June 18, 2013, 12:10:42 pm
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m2t9h5Jjg01qarn5to1_500.jpg)

Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: mellenORL on June 18, 2013, 03:22:18 pm
Wow! And done in the Norman Rockwell style, for even moar bitter irony.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on June 19, 2013, 03:08:04 pm
(http://imageshack.us/a/img199/5117/ut6n.png)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Captain Jack Harkness on June 19, 2013, 04:24:14 pm
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m2t9h5Jjg01qarn5to1_500.jpg)

That's totally not unnecessarily inflammatory or anything! /sarcasm
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Damen on June 19, 2013, 04:29:21 pm
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/d658331775d7ac83fbae6a1ec8d9d87d/tumblr_mo7zvvvtg61rqw445o1_500.jpg)

Didn't I see a news article about some company trying to sue farmers after they found out pollen from their GMO crops had drifted into the farmer's land?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Sigmaleph on June 19, 2013, 05:19:28 pm
Yep, Monsanto. That's the point of the cartoon.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on June 22, 2013, 10:39:14 am
(http://s3.amazonaws.com/dk-production/images/35998/large/999.png?1370896590)

(http://s3.amazonaws.com/dk-production/images/36127/large/studentloans720.png?1370975428)

(http://www.filibustercartoons.com/comics/20130618.gif)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on June 22, 2013, 07:03:17 pm
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/f3a9d950ca72d6f72ef249987a000ff0/tumblr_mop2nvtdCQ1ryg9q7o1_500.gif)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on June 23, 2013, 12:15:24 am
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/1001043_531834520187582_2038741676_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Veras on June 26, 2013, 10:20:01 am
(http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/Editorial-Cartoon-DADT-Down-DOMA-To-Go.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on June 26, 2013, 11:39:09 am
Since showing the image doesn't seem to work:
http://images2.fanpop.com/images/photos/5800000/Editorial-Comic-lgbt-5862275-600-490.gif

Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: wrightway on June 26, 2013, 08:23:15 pm
So much awesome.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on June 27, 2013, 02:57:26 am
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/85d91a80f5359f4bbe21883740a0f810/tumblr_mp0vxfOek91rroz62o1_500.gif)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on June 27, 2013, 10:05:08 am
So much awesome.

Love it!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on June 28, 2013, 12:41:39 am
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m9j09i0w7n1qh021co1_400.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: The Right Honourable Mlle Antéchrist on June 28, 2013, 12:43:34 am
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m9j09i0w7n1qh021co1_400.jpg)

This is perfect.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: ThunderWulf on June 28, 2013, 01:37:52 pm
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/978e566de6c05b221e053e743cee0c4c/tumblr_mp4157COWM1qav5oho1_r2_500.jpg)

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m9j09i0w7n1qh021co1_400.jpg)

Wow, that is SPOT on.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Osama bin Bambi on July 02, 2013, 12:57:34 pm
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/419648_3285443222149_956923568_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: worlder on July 02, 2013, 11:47:49 pm
This one is pretty good, no oddly placed labels.

Words are on surfaces that one would expect to have words.

The improvement I suggest is a "still life" political cartoon, like the ones that Bennett draws.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on July 03, 2013, 04:27:33 am
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/015a2a972c094bb300c018639bba609d/tumblr_mo56vcASkv1rlyxsto1_500.gif)
I have a feeling that this might have already been here. Still worth repeating.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Auri-El on July 03, 2013, 06:28:39 am
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/968957_680853358607981_1538924348_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: mellenORL on July 03, 2013, 12:46:53 pm
I like the simple use of character visual clues; narrow, tall, erect head = narrow minded dickhead. Now, replace the straight lipped mouth with a round, puckery one = narrow minded dickhead asshole.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 03, 2013, 03:44:57 pm
I like the simple use of character visual clues; narrow, tall, erect head = narrow minded dickhead. Now, replace the straight lipped mouth with a round, puckery one = narrow minded dickhead asshole.
I've got to admit, I didn't pick up on that visual when I read it.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 03, 2013, 07:12:34 pm
Modified this one from being a fundie to being anti-fundie. And now modified another.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: ThunderWulf on July 03, 2013, 11:02:24 pm
As if we needed another reason why the stand you ground law was bullshit.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 03, 2013, 11:03:42 pm
As if we needed another reason why the stand you ground law was bullshit.
Forget it, Wulf, it's Florida.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on July 04, 2013, 12:26:40 am
(http://www.filibustercartoons.com/comics/20130703.gif)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on July 04, 2013, 12:41:37 am
As if we needed another reason why the stand you ground law was bullshit.
Forget it, Wulf, it's Florida.

There is a reason it's nicknames include "The Armpit of America", and "America's Wang"
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lt. Fred on July 04, 2013, 01:17:34 am
Modified this one from being a fundie to being anti-fundie. And now modified another.

You can't fault the Israelis for their armour. Those guys know how to build a fucking tank.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 04, 2013, 02:24:56 am
Modified this one from being a fundie to being anti-fundie. And now modified another.

You can't fault the Israelis for their armour. Those guys know how to build a fucking tank.
I'm not. I'm faulting them for Apartheid 2: Electric Boogaloo.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on July 04, 2013, 03:24:36 am
This is a big one so I'll spoiler it:
(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: ThunderWulf on July 04, 2013, 11:39:38 am
Wow, that's an awesome one.  Breaks it dow nice and simple so anyone could understand the point.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 04, 2013, 02:47:11 pm
Wow, that's an awesome one.  Breaks it dow nice and simple so anyone could understand the point.
And yet the fundies will still ignore it.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 05, 2013, 05:16:35 am
Starring Barack Obama as Ashley J. Williams
The Republican Party as Deadites
Some Jackass as Himself
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on July 05, 2013, 10:14:28 am
Starring Barack Obama as Ashley J. Williams
The Republican Party as Deadites
Some Jackass as Himself

I just noticed the GOP zombies are all Reagan clones. Very fitting. And Obama looks COOL!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 05, 2013, 10:38:42 am
Starring Barack Obama as Ashley J. Williams
The Republican Party as Deadites
Some Jackass as Himself

I just noticed the GOP zombies are all Reagan clones. Very fitting. And Obama looks COOL!
Lol, of course he does. He's playing a character played by Bruce Campbell (it's a parody of the B-horror trilogy of Evil Dead/Evil Dead 2/Army of Darkness)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 06, 2013, 02:18:53 am
Terrorist Text
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Iconic Komodo Dragon 2 on July 06, 2013, 02:18:57 pm
(http://www.mattbors.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/1006.png)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on July 06, 2013, 08:18:12 pm
(http://www.mattbors.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/1006.png)

(http://izquotes.com/quotes-pictures/quote-when-the-president-does-it-that-means-that-it-s-not-illegal-richard-m-nixon-136312.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 06, 2013, 08:21:18 pm
(http://www.mattbors.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/1006.png)
The headphones strike me as somewhat of a race comment, because otherwise, why would he have them, and why those specific ones?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: mythbuster43 on July 06, 2013, 09:32:21 pm
(http://www.mattbors.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/1006.png)

(http://izquotes.com/quotes-pictures/quote-when-the-president-does-it-that-means-that-it-s-not-illegal-richard-m-nixon-136312.jpg)

As hated as Nixon is for his scandals, the only President since Nixon to not have any scandals is Jimmy Carter.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 06, 2013, 09:44:12 pm
(http://www.mattbors.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/1006.png)

(http://izquotes.com/quotes-pictures/quote-when-the-president-does-it-that-means-that-it-s-not-illegal-richard-m-nixon-136312.jpg)

As hated as Nixon is for his scandals, the only President since Nixon to not have any scandals is Jimmy Carter.
I don't see scandals as a bad thing. I would in fact be more suspicious if a president was squeaky clean. The only time something looks perfectly clean is when you're putting on a show.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on July 06, 2013, 10:47:14 pm
(http://www.mattbors.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/1006.png)

The words are okay, how Obama is drawn (with Beats by Dre) is not. Hrm... Can't win 'em all.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Kit Walker on July 06, 2013, 11:10:58 pm
I don't see scandals as a bad thing. I would in fact be more suspicious if a president was squeaky clean. The only time something looks perfectly clean is when you're putting on a show.

You're pretty wrong on that score. Jimmy Carter didn't have any scandals because he was just an honest guy who didn't try to game the system.

He was also a shitty politician who refused to play the game at all and consequently had a hard time getting anything done, but he's since devoted his life to humanitarian efforts here and abroad. Simply put, Carter is a great human being but a horrible leader.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 06, 2013, 11:19:34 pm
I don't see scandals as a bad thing. I would in fact be more suspicious if a president was squeaky clean. The only time something looks perfectly clean is when you're putting on a show.

You're pretty wrong on that score. Jimmy Carter didn't have any scandals because he was just an honest guy who didn't try to game the system.

He was also a shitty politician who refused to play the game at all and consequently had a hard time getting anything done, but he's since devoted his life to humanitarian efforts here and abroad. Simply put, Carter is a great human being but a horrible leader.
He was likely the exception to the rule, to be honest. However, literally any other politician, I would be really suspicious if they had no scandals. At least with JFK, we had enough scandals to make tons of books about, so we knew when he did something good, it wasn't made up, because he'd screw that up, too. I'd rather have scandals, because it shows me that our leader isn't perfect. If our leader looks perfect (and Carter did not, due to being bad at it), something's fishy.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on July 07, 2013, 12:14:05 am
I would also rather have someone like Obama in office than some fundie lunatic!

About this whole surveillance scandal of doom. This might provide a different angle:

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2013/07/06/have-we-all-been-fooled-by-edward-snowden/

Let's just say, Snowden is not "One Of Us". In fact, he sounds like a total Tea-brained asshat!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on July 07, 2013, 12:22:33 am
it really doesnt matter we still shouldnt be having this type of data collection
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 07, 2013, 12:29:40 am
it really doesnt matter we still shouldnt be having this type of data collection
I agree. While his politics may not match with ours, his actions are something we can celebrate. Basically, it doesn't matter why you do something, it matters that you did it. If a scientists cured cancer for the fame, power and money, I'd still support him, because he did a heroic act, even if it was for evil reasons.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on July 07, 2013, 12:48:09 am
not the best analogy since I've seen many a sci fi distopya where someone invents a cure then enslaves us all
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 07, 2013, 01:08:27 am
not the best analogy since I've seen many a sci fi distopya where someone invents a cure then enslaves us all
Enslaving people is an evil action, not an evil motive. If they invented it but got shot to death before getting to the enslaving, or even tried and were killed before they had a chance to do anything, I'd still respect them.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lt. Fred on July 07, 2013, 06:15:37 am
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As hated as Nixon is for his scandals, the only President since Nixon to not have any scandals is Jimmy Carter.
I don't see scandals as a bad thing. I would in fact be more suspicious if a president was squeaky clean. The only time something looks perfectly clean is when you're putting on a show.

Clinton's 'scandals' were hardly his fault, since they were either fabricated or trivial and irrelevant. This is reflected in his job approval rating. People don't like corruption, "scandals" are neither here nor there. Nixon was hated because he tried (and succeeded) at stealing an election, not because he was accused of stealing an election. This is something we'll see in the next few months with Obama, people with brains will gradually realise they've been sold a bridge by Republican politicians.

I don't see scandals as a bad thing. I would in fact be more suspicious if a president was squeaky clean. The only time something looks perfectly clean is when you're putting on a show.

You're pretty wrong on that score. Jimmy Carter didn't have any scandals because he was just an honest guy who didn't try to game the system.

He was also a shitty politician who refused to play the game at all and consequently had a hard time getting anything done, but he's since devoted his life to humanitarian efforts here and abroad. Simply put, Carter is a great human being but a horrible leader.

Carter was a pretty effective politician at the state level and in his first Presidential run. He dispatched Ford fairly comprehensively, in 1976. Ronald Reagan- or rather, the PR staff that invented Ronald Reagan- was actually losing to him for most of the 1980 election. It took some fairly substantial treason for the Republicans to win that election, repeating their efforts from 1968.

Of course, Carter was one of the most serious and effective policymakers of the century. He ended the Egypt-Israeli conflicts forever, started the beat-down of the Soviets in Afghanistan with none of the severe errors Reagan added to the program, he got the American embassy staff released in Iran, emphasised human rights in foreign policy- a major change in US foreign policy that would have made a significant difference had it not been immediately reversed- and how!- by Reagan. On the domestic front, too, he was quite an effective policy maker; he led the world's first serious response to the world's most important issue, climate change (again, immediately reversed). He's probably the best president of this half of the 20th century, maybe second behind LBJ. Compared with the prior and subsequent presidents, he looks like Lincoln.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on July 07, 2013, 01:14:06 pm
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 07, 2013, 01:20:53 pm
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He likely would have been lynched.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on July 07, 2013, 04:14:12 pm
if zimmerman was black then he would have been arrested in 5 minutes
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Sylvana on July 08, 2013, 02:34:10 am
if zimmerman was black then he would have been arrested in 5 minutes
Hell the police tried to pin it all on Trayvon anyway bey looking into his background and doing Trayvons toxicology test without even checking Zimmerman at all. You don't need to reverse it, the police already tried to arrest the black guy.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 08, 2013, 03:33:48 am
if zimmerman was black then he would have been arrested in 5 minutes
Hell the police tried to pin it all on Trayvon anyway bey looking into his background and doing Trayvons toxicology test without even checking Zimmerman at all. You don't need to reverse it, the police already tried to arrest the black guy.
That's the point. If Zimmerman was the black guy, they'd have wanted his blood. Admittedly, I don't know if we'd would too, or if suddenly we would be defending him.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Canadian Mojo on July 08, 2013, 11:44:54 am
Carter was a pretty effective politician at the state level and in his first Presidential run. He dispatched Ford fairly comprehensively, in 1976. Ronald Reagan- or rather, the PR staff that invented Ronald Reagan- was actually losing to him for most of the 1980 election. It took some fairly substantial treason for the Republicans to win that election, repeating their efforts from 1968.

Of course, Carter was one of the most serious and effective policymakers of the century. He ended the Egypt-Israeli conflicts forever, started the beat-down of the Soviets in Afghanistan with none of the severe errors Reagan added to the program, he got the American embassy staff released in Iran, emphasised human rights in foreign policy- a major change in US foreign policy that would have made a significant difference had it not been immediately reversed- and how!- by Reagan. On the domestic front, too, he was quite an effective policy maker; he led the world's first serious response to the world's most important issue, climate change (again, immediately reversed). He's probably the best president of this half of the 20th century, maybe second behind LBJ. Compared with the prior and subsequent presidents, he looks like Lincoln.

I don't know about putting Afghanistan in the win column for Carter.  In starting a fight he does bare some of the responsibility for the inevitable escalation and all the consequences that  resulted.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Feral Dog on July 08, 2013, 02:04:49 pm
I think our major failure with Afghanistan was in failing to address:
- No infrastructure
- Religious extremism
- Rise of the warlords

I mean, if you're going to go messing around in a foreign country, the very least you could do is make sure you don't leave a power vacuum (and don't put in some puppet dictatorship either).
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Distind on July 08, 2013, 02:09:27 pm
it really doesnt matter we still shouldnt be having this type of data collection
I agree. While his politics may not match with ours, his actions are something we can celebrate. Basically, it doesn't matter why you do something, it matters that you did it. If a scientists cured cancer for the fame, power and money, I'd still support him, because he did a heroic act, even if it was for evil reasons.
This isn't curing cancer though, it's quite literally a violation of national security. While it's all stuff people should have known already(seriously, learn a little about electronic communications, you'll talk to real people a hell of a lot more afterward), it's resulted in a fairly serious overhaul in how terrorists communicate, as they found out what the US was doing to listen in. It's entirely fair to say that Snowden has personally increased the likely hood of a serious terrorist attack going unnoticed until it's too late. Which is right around the exact opposite of curing cancer. If we want to keep this running we should probably create a seperate thread.

Read over the linked article if you want to think it's anything more than a political move. I'm still mildly baffled as to why people blame Obama for it, the NSA's been doing it since before most people knew who he was.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Iconic Komodo Dragon 2 on July 08, 2013, 02:18:47 pm
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I'm already starting to think Zimmerman wasn't a racist as much as just paranoid about those "Crazy Gangsta Teens" walking around.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 08, 2013, 02:26:30 pm
it really doesnt matter we still shouldnt be having this type of data collection
I agree. While his politics may not match with ours, his actions are something we can celebrate. Basically, it doesn't matter why you do something, it matters that you did it. If a scientists cured cancer for the fame, power and money, I'd still support him, because he did a heroic act, even if it was for evil reasons.
This isn't curing cancer though, it's quite literally a violation of national security. While it's all stuff people should have known already(seriously, learn a little about electronic communications, you'll talk to real people a hell of a lot more afterward), it's resulted in a fairly serious overhaul in how terrorists communicate, as they found out what the US was doing to listen in. It's entirely fair to say that Snowden has personally increased the likely hood of a serious terrorist attack going unnoticed until it's too late. Which is right around the exact opposite of curing cancer. If we want to keep this running we should probably create a seperate thread.

Read over the linked article if you want to think it's anything more than a political move. I'm still mildly baffled as to why people blame Obama for it, the NSA's been doing it since before most people knew who he was.
I understand it's likely purely a political move, and it may have increased danger to us, but, well, to use a stock quote, "Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." I'd rather risk my life a little more than have the NSA spying on me, even if chances are having to monitor my family's internet usage is akin to being assigned to Siberia by Stalin. I have no problem with Obama over this, I have a problem with the NSA, precisely because he didn't start this.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on July 08, 2013, 02:32:46 pm
What's with "Black" Zimmerman having a Micheal Jackson Thriller jacket on??
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: ScrappyB on July 08, 2013, 02:38:14 pm
I would also rather have someone like Obama in office than some fundie lunatic!

About this whole surveillance scandal of doom. This might provide a different angle:

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2013/07/06/have-we-all-been-fooled-by-edward-snowden/

Let's just say, Snowden is not "One Of Us". In fact, he sounds like a total Tea-brained asshat!

Why should it make a difference what his motivations were? I don't care if he was a total scumbag. Just because you don't like the messenger doesn't mean the message is any less important.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on July 08, 2013, 02:48:24 pm
I would also rather have someone like Obama in office than some fundie lunatic!

About this whole surveillance scandal of doom. This might provide a different angle:

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2013/07/06/have-we-all-been-fooled-by-edward-snowden/

Let's just say, Snowden is not "One Of Us". In fact, he sounds like a total Tea-brained asshat!

Why should it make a difference what his motivations were? I don't care if he was a total scumbag. Just because you don't like the messenger doesn't mean the message is any less important.
Not to mention the 'us vs. them' mentality gets us nowhere.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Meshakhad on July 08, 2013, 02:48:57 pm
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I'm already starting to think Zimmerman wasn't a racist as much as just paranoid about those "Crazy Gangsta Teens" walking around.

Same here. I never really assumed he was a racist. In fact, I tend to assume that barring evidence otherwise, people aren't consciously racist.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on July 09, 2013, 07:04:24 pm
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I'm already starting to think Zimmerman wasn't a racist as much as just paranoid about those "Crazy Gangsta Teens" walking around.

Same here. I never really assumed he was a racist. In fact, I tend to assume that barring evidence otherwise, people aren't consciously racist.

I assumed the commentary from the simple race-switch is less on Zimmerman's racism and instead the reaction of people to the incident.  Namely, a lot of people rushing to Zimmerman's defense and accusing Martin of being a thug and a thief, despite evidence to the contrary.

If the race was switched, there'd be a hell of a lot more people calling for Black!Zimmerman's head.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Osama bin Bambi on July 09, 2013, 09:39:45 pm
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I'm already starting to think Zimmerman wasn't a racist as much as just paranoid about those "Crazy Gangsta Teens" walking around.

Same here. I never really assumed he was a racist. In fact, I tend to assume that barring evidence otherwise, people aren't consciously racist.

I assumed the commentary from the simple race-switch is less on Zimmerman's racism and instead the reaction of people to the incident.  Namely, a lot of people rushing to Zimmerman's defense and accusing Martin of being a thug and a thief, despite evidence to the contrary.

If the race was switched, there'd be a hell of a lot more people calling for Black!Zimmerman's head.

Hell, half the "arguments" I've seen for Zimmerman's innocence is, "But Trayvon was a big, scary black man! It was totally reasonable for Zimmerman to assume he was a n****r thug burglar!"
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: The Right Honourable Mlle Antéchrist on July 09, 2013, 10:15:54 pm
If the race was switched, there'd be a hell of a lot more people calling for Black!Zimmerman's head.

Not to mention the influence it would have had on the police investigation immediately following the shooting.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on July 09, 2013, 10:47:15 pm
That, too.  Zimmerman would've been in jail and on trial months ago.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Kit Walker on July 09, 2013, 11:20:47 pm
I would also rather have someone like Obama in office than some fundie lunatic!

About this whole surveillance scandal of doom. This might provide a different angle:

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2013/07/06/have-we-all-been-fooled-by-edward-snowden/

Let's just say, Snowden is not "One Of Us". In fact, he sounds like a total Tea-brained asshat!

I would rather have Obama than a fundie loon, but I'd rather have someone who actually abides by the Bill of Rights all the time over Obama. The Obama DOJ has continued defending the Bush-era warrantless NSA wiretapping program, with a suit brought by lawyers representing Gitmo detainees having been bounced out of the courts since they couldn't prove their communications were intercepted because the courts ruled that the information on what communications the NSA intercepted were classified. (http://jurist.org/paperchase/2011/02/federal-judge-dismisses-government-surveillance-suit-for-lack-of-standing.php) So it didn't shock me much to find out that the NSA under Obama has found a brand new way to illegally spy on American citizens.

It doesn't matter if Snowden is a democrat disappointed in Obama, a republican who thought it was OK when his party did it, or a nutter who believes Obama is one of the lizard people. What matters is that the information he leaked was true and that what our government is doing isn't kosher.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on July 10, 2013, 12:15:53 pm
I would also rather have someone like Obama in office than some fundie lunatic!

About this whole surveillance scandal of doom. This might provide a different angle:

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2013/07/06/have-we-all-been-fooled-by-edward-snowden/

Let's just say, Snowden is not "One Of Us". In fact, he sounds like a total Tea-brained asshat!

I would rather have Obama than a fundie loon, but I'd rather have someone who actually abides by the Bill of Rights all the time over Obama. The Obama DOJ has continued defending the Bush-era warrantless NSA wiretapping program, with a suit brought by lawyers representing Gitmo detainees having been bounced out of the courts since they couldn't prove their communications were intercepted because the courts ruled that the information on what communications the NSA intercepted were classified. (http://jurist.org/paperchase/2011/02/federal-judge-dismisses-government-surveillance-suit-for-lack-of-standing.php) So it didn't shock me much to find out that the NSA under Obama has found a brand new way to illegally spy on American citizens.

It doesn't matter if Snowden is a democrat disappointed in Obama, a republican who thought it was OK when his party did it, or a nutter who believes Obama is one of the lizard people. What matters is that the information he leaked was true and that what our government is doing isn't kosher.

I understand. I'm sorry if I gave the wrong impression on everything. I thought the info might shed some light on this Snowden guy, why he did it & the implications.

That said, I agree that the spying thing is spooky. However, I read from an article on Blue State Journal (a progressive news source) that, like police searches, that these spy things require using warrants. The point is, while we should show concern, an alarmist attitude of pure paranoia & terror will only mess us up.

Do I trust the Government blindly? No!

Do I think Obama is perfect? No!

Do I think Bush Jr., SOPA, PIPA & whatnot are the bee's knees? HELL NO!

That said, I'm just trying to be careful & prudent. The media does have a tendency to report scary stuff either real or imagined and making folks go nuts with terror. I'm sick of being scared! I'm sick of alarmism! FDR once said, "We have nothing to fear but Fear itself". Too much fear is bad for one's health & sanity.

Fears okay, within reason but fear has become like an epidemic. It's dumb.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Igor on July 10, 2013, 10:28:24 pm
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Not sure if it goes here, it's not exactly political, I guess, but it has a good point.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on July 11, 2013, 12:34:18 am
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Not sure if it goes here, it's not exactly political, I guess, but it has a good point.

The story of my life, right there folks.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: starseeker on July 11, 2013, 05:10:16 am
Shame it doesn't mention the part where you then make a social mistake, get mocked, and get firmly convinced your anxieties were right in the first place.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on July 11, 2013, 06:49:58 am
Shame it doesn't mention the part where you then make a social mistake, get mocked, and get firmly convinced your anxieties were right in the first place.
Well it was a parody, mocking the idea that people with anxieties should get over them just by uh... well they never really explain how you should overcome them, just that you should "be social" as if that's magic.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RavynousHunter on July 11, 2013, 07:52:09 am
Shame it doesn't mention the part where you then make a social mistake, get mocked, and get firmly convinced your anxieties were right in the first place.
Well it was a parody, mocking the idea that people with anxieties should get over them just by uh... well they never really explain how you should overcome them, just that you should "be social" as if that's magic.

Yeaaaaaaaah...if it weren't for a combination of medication and actual, REAL therapy from an actual fuckin therapist, I'd probably -still- be an anxiety-ridden wreck, even today.  If Big Pharma is helping me NOT panic at the idea of talking to people, even my own family, then...erm...hooray for Big Pharma?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: The Right Honourable Mlle Antéchrist on July 11, 2013, 09:40:09 am
Shame it doesn't mention the part where you then make a social mistake, get mocked, and get firmly convinced your anxieties were right in the first place.
Well it was a parody, mocking the idea that people with anxieties should get over them just by uh... well they never really explain how you should overcome them, just that you should "be social" as if that's magic.

Yeaaaaaaaah...if it weren't for a combination of medication and actual, REAL therapy from an actual fuckin therapist, I'd probably -still- be an anxiety-ridden wreck, even today.  If Big Pharma is helping me NOT panic at the idea of talking to people, even my own family, then...erm...hooray for Big Pharma?

Same here. Sure, overdiagnosis and overmedication are issues, but tossing the baby out with the bathwater isn't the answer.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on July 11, 2013, 10:35:00 am
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Not sure if it goes here, it's not exactly political, I guess, but it has a good point.

The story of my life, right there folks.

I think I have had this exact conversation with my dad.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on July 11, 2013, 11:33:05 am
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Silhouette on July 11, 2013, 03:05:21 pm
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on July 11, 2013, 06:14:59 pm
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: LeTipex on July 11, 2013, 08:20:03 pm
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Not sure if it goes here, it's not exactly political, I guess, but it has a good point.

The story of my life, right there folks.

I think I have had this exact conversation with my dad.
Well, I'm not saying that social anxiety isn't a thing, but I have to say, as someone who is naturally hypersocial, it can be really hard to understand. It took me a long time to get that people who acted that way didn't do it because they wanted to. I do now, but I still don't understand it. I guess it's one of those things where you always feel that the one on the other side of the fence is weird.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on July 11, 2013, 08:38:15 pm
My dad thinks I should just be able to call people on the phone because they can't see me. Which is part of my anxiety too but not all of it. It took me two days to get up the courage to call a therapist and when I did I broke down and my throat got tight as the phone was picked up on the other end. Which just made it worse cause the person couldn't hear me. So yeah.

Dad says he's an introvert and how he doesn't react the way I do. He teaches for a living. So there's a disconnect.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Her3tiK on July 11, 2013, 11:02:24 pm
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Not sure if it goes here, it's not exactly political, I guess, but it has a good point.

The story of my life, right there folks.

I think I have had this exact conversation with my dad.
Well, I'm not saying that social anxiety isn't a thing, but I have to say, as someone who is naturally hypersocial, it can be really hard to understand. It took me a long time to get that people who acted that way didn't do it because they wanted to. I do now, but I still don't understand it. I guess it's one of those things where you always feel that the one on the other side of the fence is weird.
Basically. I'm cool with going out... usually once a week, provided its with some close friends, or people who are on their way to becoming such. I do not like large crowds, especially if they're rambunctious (such as sports fans), and especially if I don't know most of them. Hell, I don't really like going out with friends and finding out they invited people I've never met before. It's indescribably uncomfortable, and I recede into myself pretty much as soon as I'm excluded from conversation. Certainly not the type of personality that does well in Hollywood/LA, which is a big part of why I've been wanting to leave for so long.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: The Right Honourable Mlle Antéchrist on July 12, 2013, 12:30:47 am
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Reminds me of this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnV2BnrdcPc
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Thejebusfire on July 12, 2013, 02:17:35 am
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 12, 2013, 06:15:20 am
Well, the Koch brothers pretty much own PBS now.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Distind on July 12, 2013, 06:45:26 am
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Not sure if it goes here, it's not exactly political, I guess, but it has a good point.
There is a point to what's said though, the only way you're going to become any more comfortable in social situtations is experience and exposure. The longer you go without any the deeper the anxieties will engrain themselves. I say this as someone who was quite literally beaten on a regular basis as a kid and still has a dislike of crowds, I have plenty of reasons to be asocial, but after actually bothering to deal with people I don't have the urge to run and hide anymore.

Doesn't mean I want to head out and dive into the bar scene, but it does mean if I'm invited out somewhere I'm perfectly comfortable going. Hell, I may even invite other folks out. Just don't dive in the deepend and scare yourself out of the pool.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RavynousHunter on July 12, 2013, 09:22:43 am
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Not sure if it goes here, it's not exactly political, I guess, but it has a good point.
There is a point to what's said though, the only way you're going to become any more comfortable in social situtations is experience and exposure. The longer you go without any the deeper the anxieties will engrain themselves. I say this as someone who was quite literally beaten on a regular basis as a kid and still has a dislike of crowds, I have plenty of reasons to be asocial, but after actually bothering to deal with people I don't have the urge to run and hide anymore.

Doesn't mean I want to head out and dive into the bar scene, but it does mean if I'm invited out somewhere I'm perfectly comfortable going. Hell, I may even invite other folks out. Just don't dive in the deepend and scare yourself out of the pool.

Aye, with things like that, it really is best to take it a lil slow.  If ya fuck up there, it could stand a chance of pretty much scaring you away from all human contact.  Been there, done that, got the scars.  Didn't even get the shitty coffee mug, either.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Jack Mann on July 12, 2013, 01:31:20 pm
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/q71/s720x720/945699_550837158304873_909726509_n.jpg)
Not sure if it goes here, it's not exactly political, I guess, but it has a good point.

The story of my life, right there folks.

I think I have had this exact conversation with my dad.
Well, I'm not saying that social anxiety isn't a thing, but I have to say, as someone who is naturally hypersocial, it can be really hard to understand. It took me a long time to get that people who acted that way didn't do it because they wanted to. I do now, but I still don't understand it. I guess it's one of those things where you always feel that the one on the other side of the fence is weird.

This is one of the really hard parts about neuroses.  They're very hard to understand from the outside.  Same with things like clinical depression or PTSD.  If you don't have it, it's very difficult to put yourself in the other person's shoes.  And for those who do have it, they get a lot of advice from people who have no idea what they're talking about.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Meshakhad on July 12, 2013, 02:05:23 pm
This is one of the really hard parts about neuroses.  They're very hard to understand from the outside.  Same with things like clinical depression or PTSD.  If you don't have it, it's very difficult to put yourself in the other person's shoes.  And for those who do have it, they get a lot of advice from people who have no idea what they're talking about.

I have a guess as to what it might be like. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

I imagine it's sort of like the anxiety many people have with asking someone out on a date. Only, someone with social anxiety has that with any sort of social contact, and there isn't the motivation of their attraction to the person. At which point, I can start to understand those sorts of problems.

The irony is that I'm currently interested in a girl who has some social issues. I'm not sure exactly what they are.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Igor on July 12, 2013, 07:22:04 pm
As far as explaining what social anxiety is like goes, I saw a really good column (http://www.cracked.com/blog/4-things-movies-always-get-wrong-about-awkward-people/) on Cracked today that explains it pretty well, I think.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 12, 2013, 08:52:44 pm
(http://www.addictinginfo.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/119.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: ScrappyB on July 12, 2013, 11:14:03 pm
That said, I agree that the spying thing is spooky. However, I read from an article on Blue State Journal (a progressive news source) that, like police searches, that these spy things require using warrants.

The problem is they only have to get a warrant from the FISC, which is a secret court that basically functions as a rubber stamp on approving whatever the hell the administration wants to do. In 2012 it heard 1,856 proposals. How many did it approve? Every single one.

Since it was created in 1978, it has rejected only 11 surveillance requests out of 33,900.

For some reason, I'm not reassured the FISC is looking out for our privacy.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on July 13, 2013, 06:39:40 pm
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m1eap2paKE1qk27mfo1_r1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Thejebusfire on July 13, 2013, 11:44:22 pm
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/ec5a9ba150030f02808cd27bf35111d8/tumblr_mpp0iqI9ZX1qc17xzo1_1280.png)

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/158d90b32645eef4003df99922dca551/tumblr_mpp0iqI9ZX1qc17xzo2_1280.png)

These are just the beginnings of a very long series, but it's worth the read:

http://preview.tinyurl.com/qf8ejn7
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: The Right Honourable Mlle Antéchrist on July 13, 2013, 11:47:58 pm
^^ Excellent article. Every generation has its flaws, but a lot of the complaining does seem to stem from culture shock.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RavynousHunter on July 15, 2013, 02:07:50 am
Huh, I always read it as a bunch of old pricks bitching because the current generation ISN'T them, just a few decades younger.  They want us to be them, and that's not fuckin happening.  All the bastards bashing us now?  Enjoy the nursing homes and bed sores because you've pissed us off too much to even care whether your last days are spent in peace or unbearable agony, while the good ones of your generation will be venerated as they damn well should be.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: MadmanJohnson on July 15, 2013, 01:23:11 pm
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m1eap2paKE1qk27mfo1_r1_500.jpg)
Who are you, mysterious pointing finger man?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on July 15, 2013, 01:34:56 pm
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/14866cc83ddb8efaeca9ca8ae1c9826d/tumblr_mpze1mz3pp1qbxkjao1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: KZN02 on July 16, 2013, 02:04:08 am
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/14866cc83ddb8efaeca9ca8ae1c9826d/tumblr_mpze1mz3pp1qbxkjao1_500.jpg)
But those sorts of abortion providers don't have taxes in their fees, right?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 16, 2013, 12:16:01 pm
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m1eap2paKE1qk27mfo1_r1_500.jpg)
Who are you, mysterious pointing finger man?
He is no man! He's a talking arm. Duh.  :P
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on July 17, 2013, 07:19:59 am
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/21e70ae437018d37659a153ac9bd51e7/tumblr_mq1bhavp9W1qbxkjao1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ottery on July 17, 2013, 08:46:37 am
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/14866cc83ddb8efaeca9ca8ae1c9826d/tumblr_mpze1mz3pp1qbxkjao1_500.jpg)
But those sorts of abortion providers don't have taxes in their fees, right?

I read it as they need workers because all the women are dying from back-alley abortions. Which is a sobering reality.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Thejebusfire on July 18, 2013, 06:30:02 pm
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/ae9e82d56feb871f90ad239f526edb2b/tumblr_mp8gijM9f21rphc69o2_1280.gif)

*Forgive me if I've posted this one before*
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Iconic Komodo Dragon 2 on July 18, 2013, 07:58:16 pm
(http://sphotos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/p480x480/184570_460392260702141_1029456001_n.jpg)
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-TowAfch8H5A/UBC91zmkXEI/AAAAAAAAAZw/TTsv5S-qCvQ/s1600/legality.jpg)
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(http://24.media.tumblr.com/69fc8d382090ff6b3e58f2a914969c8a/tumblr_mogdwp6MSD1r35q8fo1_500.jpg)
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/p480x480/29000_423358671072167_371838468_n.jpg)
(http://images.sodahead.com/profiles/0/0/3/4/5/2/1/3/9/conservative-logic-102-100561829316.jpeg)
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc1/p480x480/310061_659158557444496_865665067_n.jpg)
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: KZN02 on July 18, 2013, 08:05:27 pm
On the Flat Earth Society one, I heard they actually do believe in Climate Change ironically enough.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: DiscoBerry on July 19, 2013, 10:13:34 am
(http://i.imgur.com/bqmCHHi.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: KZN02 on July 20, 2013, 11:20:37 pm
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/946921_632261823461499_1712529065_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: R. U. Sirius on July 20, 2013, 11:27:59 pm
...I don't get it.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on July 20, 2013, 11:31:10 pm
People who have been to space and especially the moon don't nice things like boarders etc
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Jack Mann on July 20, 2013, 11:33:56 pm
Yes, they hate it when people rent rooms.  Absolutely loathe it.

Just joshin' ya.  Yeah, it's a great sentiment.  Pity he came unhinged later on.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on July 21, 2013, 12:18:54 am
People who have been to space and especially the moon don't nice things like boarders etc

I have no idea what that sentence means.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Her3tiK on July 21, 2013, 12:29:12 am
People who have been to space, and especially the moon, don't notice things like boarders, etc.

I have no idea what that sentence means.
I can't see the picture in question, but I'm assuming it's the one of Buzz Aldrin and various world leaders looking at Earth from the moon. In which case, my correction probably makes more sense.
...I don't get it.
Again, assuming I'm getting the gist from Kefkaownsall's sentence, Aldrin's line in the comic is a quote. The astronaut was marveling at how petty and insignificant our political squabbles seem when you're 250k/mi away from Earth, and how he would love to drag our world leaders to the moon and tell them to "Look at that, you son of a bitch".

Unless the comic in question is different than what I think it is. In which case, ignore me and my attempts to be smart.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on July 21, 2013, 12:36:12 am
That was actually my impression, too.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on July 21, 2013, 01:09:33 am
That was the comic
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Jack Mann on July 21, 2013, 01:21:27 am
It's a quote from Edgar Mitchell, who was part of the crew of Apollo 14 (and by inference, he's the astronaut in the picture). 

Quote
“You develop an instant global consciousness, a people orientation, an intense dissatisfaction with the state of the world, and a compulsion to do something about it. From out there on the moon, international politics look so petty. You want to grab a politician by the scruff of the neck and drag him a quarter of a million miles out and say, ‘Look at that, you son of a bitch.”

Guy's completely off his rocker in a lot of ways, but he got that one right.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Her3tiK on July 21, 2013, 01:43:18 am
It's a quote from Edgar Mitchell, who was part of the crew of Apollo 14 (and by inference, he's the astronaut in the picture). 

Quote
“You develop an instant global consciousness, a people orientation, an intense dissatisfaction with the state of the world, and a compulsion to do something about it. From out there on the moon, international politics look so petty. You want to grab a politician by the scruff of the neck and drag him a quarter of a million miles out and say, ‘Look at that, you son of a bitch.”

Guy's completely off his rocker in a lot of ways, but he got that one right.
Damn it. So close.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on July 21, 2013, 12:40:49 pm
It's a quote from Edgar Mitchell, who was part of the crew of Apollo 14 (and by inference, he's the astronaut in the picture). 

Quote
“You develop an instant global consciousness, a people orientation, an intense dissatisfaction with the state of the world, and a compulsion to do something about it. From out there on the moon, international politics look so petty. You want to grab a politician by the scruff of the neck and drag him a quarter of a million miles out and say, ‘Look at that, you son of a bitch.”

Guy's completely off his rocker in a lot of ways, but he got that one right.

I personally have no problem with his New Age/paranormal/psychic power beliefs though I do feel like you feel concerning conspiracy theories.

Actually, he was into paranormal/psychic phenomena back in his astronaut days, so he's always had "unusual" beliefs (in fact he did some sort of telepathy experiment with an earthbound friend of his during his Apollo mission. Unfortunately, the private telepathy thing was a bust.). I have no problem with his quirks, as long as he isn't a fundie or one who abuses people, he's fine.

I'd have more of an issue with guys like Charlie Sheen, Mel Gibson or Tom Cruise...One minute, you're an incredibly handsome, highly talented, well-respected, cinematic actor and the next minute you're riding on the Last Weirdo-Train To Crazyville!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: KZN02 on July 26, 2013, 01:51:38 am
Not sure if this is the right place, but oh well. Attack on Titan is contagious.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDx2ceMiWnU
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Iconic Komodo Dragon 2 on July 26, 2013, 12:08:09 pm
(http://www.ucsusa.org/assets/images/si/science-idol-2011/web-UCScalendar-2012-strawman-macleod.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Sigmaleph on July 26, 2013, 01:41:45 pm
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cataclysm on July 26, 2013, 06:11:42 pm
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/946273_635868433100838_96706606_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on July 27, 2013, 10:42:30 am
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/946273_635868433100838_96706606_n.jpg)

Mocking vaccines should be in "Worst Political Cartoons".
Title: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: chiheisen on July 27, 2013, 10:47:03 am

Mocking vaccines should be in "Worst Political Cartoons".

Maybe I am wrong, but when I first saw this, I thought it was doing the exact opposite of mocking vaccines.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: mellenORL on July 27, 2013, 11:24:21 am
Yeah, it's beautifully sarcastic against anti-vaccers. Is it an actual vintage cartoon? If it's new, the artist is amazingly accurate in doing that retro style.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on July 27, 2013, 11:39:26 am
It's mocking anti-vaxxers.

The whole site is full of comics mocking fundies.

(http://www.marriedtothesea.com/040512/fucked-up-god-logic.gif)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on July 27, 2013, 01:46:52 pm
Yeah, it's beautifully sarcastic against anti-vaccers. Is it an actual vintage cartoon? If it's new, the artist is amazingly accurate in doing that retro style.

Well, if you interpret it that way, then that's fine.

The weird thing is, it can be interpreted either way & that's what makes it so darn tricky.

(took another look at it & the other cartoon) - Yup, it's pro-vax.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lithp on July 27, 2013, 03:39:19 pm
Yeah, "Town of Notice How Nobody Ever Gets Polio or Smallpox Anymore" really gives it away. Also, while "lol" is abused as shit, I literally did laugh loudly when I read that.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Iconic Komodo Dragon 2 on July 28, 2013, 06:39:29 pm
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Oooh, subtle! :o
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on July 29, 2013, 12:37:29 am
It's been a while since I've posted a comic in here, hasn't it? Let's fix that!

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/8797166f0da17a2ed4468e9971721be3/tumblr_mqi8cmuGgf1rroz62o1_500.jpg)

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/21ba0998531feed72eefb469e867b57c/tumblr_mqg95cA9wR1qh3h8wo1_1280.png)

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/98255ff28d0ea0a62da6e68f6f60b278/tumblr_mq8li4wfXy1ryg9q7o1_1280.jpg)

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/3494f3b4788bdd5c8a93d2f8a13031a2/tumblr_mqcqvgUYs41qbxkjao1_1280.jpg)

There. Much better.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on July 29, 2013, 12:50:43 am
no they always waged war on blacks
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on July 29, 2013, 12:54:35 am
That wasn't what they were expanding on.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Skybison on July 29, 2013, 11:39:13 pm
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-huPYpPtS5-E/UeAGpix0TZI/AAAAAAABNOw/q6OKBGa3oZ8/w800-h800/kal%2Bjuly%2B11.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: KZN02 on July 30, 2013, 02:53:26 am
(http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/582/232/bfe.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on July 30, 2013, 01:53:31 pm
Yeah, I love Pacific Rim but uh...?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Her3tiK on July 30, 2013, 02:04:05 pm
Yeah, I love Pacific Rim but uh...?
Part of the promotion for Pacific Rim was a web page that let people create their own mecha (http://apps.warnerbros.com/pacificrim/designer/us/?language=en-us) (I haven't seen the movie, so don't ruin it for me please). Naturally, with the internet being what it is, comedy ensued (http://4thstringjaegers.tumblr.com/).
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/15330dd01a77670e0c9412db2ae45510/tumblr_mq3p28EB6z1szhls2o1_1280.png)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on July 30, 2013, 03:19:24 pm
Yes I know that but I don't see how it was a political cartoon.

Either way...

(http://31.media.tumblr.com/c37e50964deaba06c3aeb64f045ac279/tumblr_mqpfawXzJN1qbxkjao1_1280.jpg)

(http://31.media.tumblr.com/3302327bf4700c3ec56a307e2ad7074d/tumblr_mqi8egBwha1rroz62o1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Sigmaleph on July 30, 2013, 08:08:48 pm
Yes I know that but I don't see how it was a political cartoon.

The political part is that Carlos Danger is the alias Anthony Weiner used in his latest sexting scandal.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on July 30, 2013, 09:25:39 pm
I don't have a pic, but in the last episode of Batman Beyond, where Mad Stan puts a bomb on Zeta, there's a building that's in the background for a full minute with a big-ass sign: "NSA Mobile". Someone want to get a pic of that?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on July 30, 2013, 11:29:39 pm
Yes I know that but I don't see how it was a political cartoon.

The political part is that Carlos Danger is the alias Anthony Weiner used in his latest sexting scandal.

Ah. Well, all right.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on August 03, 2013, 06:16:22 pm
(https://sphotos-b-iad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/1098273_640680875952927_1113161996_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on August 03, 2013, 10:27:52 pm
This sadly happened in Rio
Government tries to tear down an indigenous museum.  Eeep where did this stone age tribe move in
Um since forever?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Osama bin Bambi on August 04, 2013, 04:48:37 pm
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/f8b8889660549dd4acbf562734999817/tumblr_mqxgo4TQAQ1r55d2io1_1280.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on August 04, 2013, 07:03:32 pm
Poor Mad Hatter, being compared to that lot.

Not even he is that mad.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lt. Fred on August 04, 2013, 08:12:10 pm
(https://sphotos-b-iad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/1098273_640680875952927_1113161996_n.jpg)

How did the builders not notice him?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on August 04, 2013, 08:59:44 pm
(https://sphotos-b-iad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/1098273_640680875952927_1113161996_n.jpg)

How did the builders not notice him?

That's the point...

Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lt. Fred on August 04, 2013, 09:01:48 pm
(https://sphotos-b-iad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/1098273_640680875952927_1113161996_n.jpg)

How did the builders not notice him?

That's the point...

MIND BLOWN.

Sir, you have one million internets.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Canadian Mojo on August 04, 2013, 09:37:17 pm
(https://sphotos-b-iad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/1098273_640680875952927_1113161996_n.jpg)

How did the builders not notice him?

They put it up during the hibernation season.  ;)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Thejebusfire on August 05, 2013, 02:41:31 am
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/f8b8889660549dd4acbf562734999817/tumblr_mqxgo4TQAQ1r55d2io1_1280.jpg)

Is it wrong that I read that in Ed Wynn's voice?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: The Illusive Man on August 05, 2013, 11:12:50 pm
I found a few that might qualify:
(http://imageshack.com/a/img153/4404/06n1.jpg)
(http://imageshack.com/a/img692/3666/35se.jpg)
(http://imageshack.com/a/img14/6844/cv80.jpg)
(http://imageshack.com/a/img825/4963/zc09.jpg)
(http://imageshack.com/a/img16/1052/iesu.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on August 06, 2013, 12:10:43 am
I found a few that might qualify:
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Two things:

One, Please shrink the really huge cartoons.

Two, You seem to have accidentally put a "Worst" here on the "Best" list & a "Best" on the "Worst" list.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Sigmaleph on August 06, 2013, 02:05:42 pm
I found a few that might qualify:
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Two things:

One, Please shrink the really huge cartoons.

Two, You seem to have accidentally put a "Worst" here on the "Best" list & a "Best" on the "Worst" list.

If you mean the second-to-last, it's satire. Notice the "The future, according to Fox News" line.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on August 06, 2013, 05:15:43 pm
I found a few that might qualify:
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Two things:

One, Please shrink the really huge cartoons.

Two, You seem to have accidentally put a "Worst" here on the "Best" list & a "Best" on the "Worst" list.

If you mean the second-to-last, it's satire. Notice the "The future, according to Fox News" line.

Didn't see that the first time. My bad! It's hard to interpret HUGE cartoons.

If one submit a pic, please kindly shrink it down to a size in with we don't have to go bonkers with scroll bars. Thank you.

In the "worst section" there's a cartoon that was so huge I couldn't take it in.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Osama bin Bambi on August 08, 2013, 02:16:35 am
Spoilered for size:

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Props to the cartoonist for actually knowing about the Philippine–American War, arguably the most forgotten war in American history.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lithp on August 08, 2013, 02:22:56 am
I don't think I've ever heard of it.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Osama bin Bambi on August 08, 2013, 03:26:55 am
I don't think I've ever heard of it.

This is probably part of the reason why. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philippine%E2%80%93American_War#American_atrocities)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lithp on August 08, 2013, 03:50:28 am
Maybe, but for all of Bellefonte's faults, shying away from discussion of American brutality was usually not one of them. There was of course the stories about what settlers did to the Native Americans, & the bloodiness of the Civil War, but also I recall a lot of debates about internment camps & atomic bombs.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on August 08, 2013, 12:28:20 pm
Spoilered for size:

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Props to the cartoonist for actually knowing about the Philippine–American War, arguably the most forgotten war in American history.

Y'know, I always preferred Lady Liberty over Uncle Sam. In my inner "U.S. symbolism & mythology", Lady Liberty represents Progressivism & all the good ideals this Nation was founded upon while Uncle Sam is the cheesy, jingoistic, rich-white-guy-ruled, Regressive realm of this Nation in reality. The two are an angry couple in a loveless marriage constantly bickering & in competition. One day, Liberty may win a fight and another day, Sam wins a fight.

Methinks Lady Liberty is mustering up the courage to file for divorce!

And I agree with the others about not knowing diddly about the war in the Philippines...and I'm a freakin' American!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: The Right Honourable Mlle Antéchrist on August 10, 2013, 03:37:17 am
(http://31.media.tumblr.com/819fb7a08d21c273d7c324d18f159a70/tumblr_mr32qdtdEN1qazvf5o1_500.png)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on August 12, 2013, 08:32:27 am
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/65bfbca28233783e5a95695f5c3b709b/tumblr_mr6cytxBcF1rd1aw5o1_1280.jpg)
(http://31.media.tumblr.com/1e3c995914d83480345c047e38d25024/tumblr_mrfwvexdD71qbxkjao1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Thejebusfire on August 14, 2013, 09:38:50 pm
(http://31.media.tumblr.com/6b0174fa1e2c7afdb655ae751f47e78a/tumblr_mqj0wb2oXR1sbv8uso1_500.gif)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: The Right Honourable Mlle Antéchrist on August 14, 2013, 11:09:07 pm
[snip]

Cue a bunch of anti-vaxxers whinging about smallpox already being on the decline prior to the introduction of vaccines*, and the usual cries of "Well, my friend's kid totally caught the measles after getting his shots, so obviously this single data point disproves everything". Oh, and don't forget to stir a little bit of "What's worse, chicken pox or autism?" into the shit stew.

* I have to bitch about this some more. You've awakened the beast within me.

Smallpox was becoming less frequent prior to vaccination due to improved hygiene (and possibly other factors); absolutely no one denies this (nor should they; hygiene plays an important role in preventing the spread of the disease). However, the trend of fewer cases became significantly more pronounced after the vaccine was introduced, and inoculations were a key component (along with coordinated efforts to identify and quarantine outbreaks and, yes, improved hygiene) in eradicating the illness. You can see this same pattern in charts of other diseases that are routinely vaccinated against -- a long, steady decrease in infections from the late 19th century up through the 20th century, followed by a quick, drastic decline, and an eventual near-elimination in some cases, as soon as the vaccine is introduced. Unsurprisingly, you can also see an increase in cases following anti-vaccination movements. Thanks, Jenny McCarthy!

And don't get me started on their complete lack of understanding of everything to do with effectiveness and risk involved in vaccines. I could rant all day about this.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on August 14, 2013, 11:17:17 pm
[snip]

Cue a bunch of anti-vaxxers whinging about polio and smallpox already being on the decline prior to the introduction of vaccines, and the usual cries of "Well, my friend's kid totally caught the measles after getting his shots, so obviously this single data point disproves everything". Oh, and don't forget to stir a little bit of "What's worse, chicken pox or autism?" into the shit stew.
If someone said that last one to me, I'd just reply "Chicken pox". Not because I believe it's worse, but because I love giving the answer that was so obviously wrong to rhetorical questions.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: The Right Honourable Mlle Antéchrist on August 14, 2013, 11:29:14 pm
Someday, I'll have to invite you to come join me in arguing with anti-vaxxers. We can do our own version of Good Cop/Bad Cop, except we'll be Science Cop/Troll Cop.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: QueenofHearts on August 14, 2013, 11:41:11 pm
Someday, I'll have to invite you to come join me in arguing with anti-vaxxers. We can do our own version of Good Cop/Bad Cop, except we'll be Science Cop/Troll Cop.

I like the way you think
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on August 14, 2013, 11:41:59 pm
Someday, I'll have to invite you to come join me in arguing with anti-vaxxers. We can do our own version of Good Cop/Bad Cop, except we'll be Science Cop/Troll Cop.
That'd be fun.

AV: Do you want children to die!?!??!?!?!
Me: Hmmmm. Doesn't sound too bad to me.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Itachirumon on August 15, 2013, 12:54:00 am
Someday, I'll have to invite you to come join me in arguing with anti-vaxxers. We can do our own version of Good Cop/Bad Cop, except we'll be Science Cop/Troll Cop.
That'd be fun.

AV: Do you want children to die!?!??!?!?!
Me: Hmmmm. Doesn't sound too bad to me.

Jonathan Swift claims they ought to taste like chicken and we DO have an overpopulation problem.....so....your move.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on August 15, 2013, 02:06:03 am
[snip]

Cue a bunch of anti-vaxxers whinging about polio and smallpox already being on the decline prior to the introduction of vaccines, and the usual cries of "Well, my friend's kid totally caught the measles after getting his shots, so obviously this single data point disproves everything". Oh, and don't forget to stir a little bit of "What's worse, chicken pox or autism?" into the shit stew.
If someone said that last one to me, I'd just reply "Chicken pox". Not because I believe it's worse, but because I love giving the answer that was so obviously wrong to rhetorical questions.

I consider chicken pox the right answer to that question. Chicken pox, if you catch it too late in life, can be itself fatal. Autism is only fatal when other people are complete shitheads.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: anti-nonsense on August 15, 2013, 02:35:18 am
Also even if you are lucky and catch it early in life, chicken pox puts you at risk of shingles which I have heard is an agonizing disease which in about 1 in 5 cases causes severe lasting complications, and may be linked to increased risk of cancer.

chicken pox is not a joke.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on August 15, 2013, 04:33:34 am
[snip]

Cue a bunch of anti-vaxxers whinging about polio and smallpox already being on the decline prior to the introduction of vaccines, and the usual cries of "Well, my friend's kid totally caught the measles after getting his shots, so obviously this single data point disproves everything". Oh, and don't forget to stir a little bit of "What's worse, chicken pox or autism?" into the shit stew.
If someone said that last one to me, I'd just reply "Chicken pox". Not because I believe it's worse, but because I love giving the answer that was so obviously wrong to rhetorical questions.

I consider chicken pox the right answer to that question. Chicken pox, if you catch it too late in life, can be itself fatal. Autism is only fatal when other people are complete shitheads.
Nah, only some forms of autism are okay. Like, Aspergers? Yeah, people with Aspergers can do pretty well for themselves. Other people with autism will never be able to live alone, ever. To me, the most terrifying thing in the world is losing my intelligence. That scares me far more than death ever will.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: lord gibbon on August 15, 2013, 05:09:48 am
As someone with Asperger's, I can vouch for that. In high school, I helped work with some of the more severely autistic children. Some of them will never be able to even speak, let alone anything more advanced. Plenty of autistic people can function, but the worst cases are truly debilitating. Not that it's really relevant here, as there is literally no evidence tat vaccines cause autism.

By the way, if I seem more aggressive than normal, It's cause I'm irritated that my otherwise rational parents have bought into the anti-vaccine nonsense.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on August 15, 2013, 06:15:32 am
As someone with Asperger's, I can vouch for that. In high school, I helped work with some of the more severely autistic children. Some of them will never be able to even speak, let alone anything more advanced. Plenty of autistic people can function, but the worst cases are truly debilitating. Not that it's really relevant here, as there is literally no evidence that vaccines cause autism.

By the way, if I seem more aggressive than normal, It's cause I'm irritated that my otherwise rational parents have bought into the anti-vaccine nonsense.
Ahh, that sucks. Point is, yeah, Chickenpox > Severe autism. Hell, if I was going to have a kid and the doctors said she'd have that level of autism, I'd definitely prefer an abortion. That's just a hellish existence.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on August 15, 2013, 08:34:36 am
(http://www.filibustercartoons.com/comics/20130814.gif)

That is actually a good point. Limiting the rights of people just because of their sexual orientation is wrong but certainly not the only questionable thing Russia has done lately. As usual the article that comes with the comic goes into much deeper details:
http://www.filibustercartoons.com/index.php/2013/08/14/putins-worst-crime/

(I would also like to note that even though the comic is just covered in labels, in this case several of those are necessary. Well, I think Gaddafi and Pussy riot would have been recognisable without them.)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: The Right Honourable Mlle Antéchrist on August 15, 2013, 09:25:02 am
As someone with Asperger's, I can vouch for that. In high school, I helped work with some of the more severely autistic children. Some of them will never be able to even speak, let alone anything more advanced. Plenty of autistic people can function, but the worst cases are truly debilitating. Not that it's really relevant here, as there is literally no evidence tat vaccines cause autism.

By the way, if I seem more aggressive than normal, It's cause I'm irritated that my otherwise rational parents have bought into the anti-vaccine nonsense.

Pseudo-science in general tends to piss me off, but the thing that makes anti-vaccination campaigns particularly repugnant is that they put children at risk through absolutely no fault of their own, and have had some pretty major repercussions for society as a whole. When we have outbreaks of measles, whooping cough and other serious diseases resulting from a movement, it's difficult not get angry about it.

That being said, I suppose we can count ourselves lucky that anti-vaxxers didn't become relatively mainstream before the elimination of smallpox or the virtual elimination of diseases like polio in most countries. Not that the measles or whooping cough are anything to sneeze at, of course.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: chad sexington on August 15, 2013, 10:05:49 am
(http://www.filibustercartoons.com/comics/20130814.gif)

That is actually a good point. Limiting the rights of people just because of their sexual orientation is wrong but certainly not the only questionable thing Russia has done lately. As usual the article that comes with the comic goes into much deeper details:
http://www.filibustercartoons.com/index.php/2013/08/14/putins-worst-crime/

(I would also like to note that even though the comic is just covered in labels, in this case several of those are necessary. Well, I think Gaddafi and Pussy riot would have been recognisable without them.)

I think it's safe to say I wouldn't have figured out what any of those were without labels :(
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: starseeker on August 15, 2013, 10:12:32 am
As someone with Asperger's, I can vouch for that. In high school, I helped work with some of the more severely autistic children. Some of them will never be able to even speak, let alone anything more advanced. Plenty of autistic people can function, but the worst cases are truly debilitating. Not that it's really relevant here, as there is literally no evidence tat vaccines cause autism.

By the way, if I seem more aggressive than normal, It's cause I'm irritated that my otherwise rational parents have bought into the anti-vaccine nonsense.

Pseudo-science in general tends to piss me off, but the thing that makes anti-vaccination campaigns particularly repugnant is that they put children at risk through absolutely no fault of their own, and have had some pretty major repercussions for society as a whole. When we have outbreaks of measles, whooping cough and other serious diseases resulting from a movement, it's difficult not get angry about it.

That being said, I suppose we can count ourselves lucky that anti-vaxxers didn't become relatively mainstream before the elimination of smallpox or the virtual elimination of diseases like polio in most countries. Not that the measles or whooping cough are anything to sneeze at, of course.

Suspect the reason the anti-vaxxers are becoming mainstream is that most people don't remember what it was like before vaccination, so they don't balance the risks properly. By modern standards the smallpox vaccine is stupidly high risk and dangerous, but the risk was accepted because everyone knew what smallpox did to people.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on August 15, 2013, 10:48:48 am
Suspect the reason the anti-vaxxers are becoming mainstream is that most people don't remember what it was like before vaccination, so they don't balance the risks properly. By modern standards the smallpox vaccine is stupidly high risk and dangerous, but the risk was accepted because everyone knew what smallpox did to people.

I think that's a pretty good guess. Just like the people who complain about seat-belts and alike, the two main arguments are:

-The small risk that comes with the cure is not acceptable. Even though the alternative is much more dangerous, they either don't realise or do not care that those huge deathtolls might return if they get their way.

-Freedom of choice to do stupid things. Which should stop when it starts to put others in danger as well.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on August 15, 2013, 11:59:53 am
We should pass around photos of third-world smallpox (or whatever) sufferers.

Of course, they'll be in denial but perhaps we can convince the less insane ones to change their tune.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: mellenORL on August 15, 2013, 12:06:59 pm
I'm reading this thread while my life long case of severe tinnitus caused by rubella is in fucking over-drive - louder than a passing truck. I got immunized, but back when German measles/rubella first appeared in the U.S., we didn't have the ability to update and quickly distribute new vaccines like we do today.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: The Right Honourable Mlle Antéchrist on August 15, 2013, 12:41:53 pm
We should pass around photos of third-world smallpox (or whatever) sufferers.

Of course, they'll be in denial but perhaps we can convince the less insane ones to change their tune.

Smallpox is eradicated worldwide, but polio is still endemic in a number of regions.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: wrightway on August 15, 2013, 12:55:33 pm
Also even if you are lucky and catch it early in life, chicken pox puts you at risk of shingles which I have heard is an agonizing disease which in about 1 in 5 cases causes severe lasting complications, and may be linked to increased risk of cancer.

chicken pox is not a joke.

As someone who's had shingle (the pain was so bad I was afraid I was dying) I'd like to say a hail and hearty "Fuck you" to the anti vaxxers.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on August 15, 2013, 01:56:45 pm
We actually think I caught chicken pox from my father, because he had shingles.

Not that I'm sure that's possible.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Osama bin Bambi on August 15, 2013, 02:10:30 pm
I got the vaccine. When I was little, my mom made me hug a friend with chicken pox and I didn't get sick, and I haven't gotten the chicken pox since, so I guess it worked. But later on, when she had my brother, she decided that it would just be better if he caught it early on. He caught it when he was a toddler and it lasted a month. Not fun.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: anti-nonsense on August 15, 2013, 02:41:26 pm
I had it when I was like 6 or something, don't even really remember exactly.

(this was 20 years ago so the vaccine was not widely used, if I have kids I WILL get them vaccinated ASAP.)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on August 15, 2013, 03:09:25 pm
I had to get all my shots as a kid because my parents have brains. They certainly paid for it in their sanity. Me + needles = you're not going to be very happy. At least I didn't threaten to stab the nurse in the eye to get out of it, unlike someone I know.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: anti-nonsense on August 15, 2013, 06:53:24 pm
yeah I had all the shots that were widely used at the time (except whooping cough due to health issues natch).

Fortunately I am not particularly scared of needles, as I've had to have lots, again due to health issues.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on August 15, 2013, 07:06:12 pm
(http://31.media.tumblr.com/fceb448d6f251779deccae7404f2e21e/tumblr_mrl8w77Y0y1qbxkjao1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: starseeker on August 15, 2013, 07:23:47 pm
Oddly enough, chickenpox isn't immunised against in the UK, least not on the NHS. Though we did have the MMR anti-vax issues about 15 years back....which paid off with a large measels outbreak in Wales this summer (1200 cases, 1 death). They gave out 75k non-routine vaccines in response.
Data here (http://"http://www.wales.nhs.uk/sitesplus/888/page/66389")
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on August 15, 2013, 09:39:57 pm
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/75260b1d579ae996212920527cb2613c/tumblr_mqjxlolVVx1qewacoo1_500.jpg)

If this is a repeat, forgive me. The pages are all starting to run together and shit in my head. ...Hahahahaha.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: lord gibbon on August 15, 2013, 10:10:44 pm
As an aspiring historian, that is sadly all too true.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: KZN02 on August 15, 2013, 10:25:21 pm
That's pretty depressing.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: The Right Honourable Mlle Antéchrist on August 15, 2013, 11:10:45 pm
I find it even more upsetting when people do study history and still fail to learn anything, or even glorify past mistakes. Plain old ignorance is pretty easy to solve, but ignorance that persists regardless of education is a lot harder to deal with.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on August 15, 2013, 11:53:22 pm
I tend to have a saying for this, which I'll coin right now....

Humanity does learn from history,
sadly, they're rarely the ones in power.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on August 16, 2013, 05:19:24 pm
I feel old now given that there wasn't a chicken pox vaccine around when I was little.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on August 16, 2013, 05:27:40 pm
I was fortunate enough to have a Chicken Pox immunity. My older sis got it once. Total zitty Calamine itch-fest. I was around her and got none of it. Woo hoo!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: ironbite on August 16, 2013, 06:35:24 pm
I feel old now given that there wasn't a chicken pox vaccine around when I was little.

Could have sworn there was when I was a kid.

Ironbite-btw, practically the same age as you.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: The Right Honourable Mlle Antéchrist on August 16, 2013, 07:04:43 pm
The chicken pox vaccine was originally developed and released in parts of Asia in the late 80s, but didn't become widely available in North America until the mid-late 90s. I was already in junior high when it was released up here in Canada and had caught it years earlier, when I was around 5 or 6, so I was never given the vaccine. As far as I know, the US released it a couple of years before we did, though I could be wrong about that.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: ironbite on August 16, 2013, 07:09:22 pm
Huh....like I said could've sworn I got a vaccine when I was a kid.

Ironbite-I do know I caught the pox so there's that.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on August 16, 2013, 07:14:37 pm
I don't remember getting it the vaccine, and my mother is the type to never skip a vaccine. I know I had the chicken pox, still have the scar on my stomach from getting it.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on August 16, 2013, 07:35:51 pm
Humanity does learn from history,
sadly, they're rarely the ones in power.

Sigged.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on August 17, 2013, 12:53:42 am
I don't remember getting it the vaccine, and my mother is the type to never skip a vaccine. I know I had the chicken pox, still have the scar on my stomach from getting it.
It is a relatively new one.  In taht case make sure you get shingles vaccine when you can
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on August 17, 2013, 08:56:57 pm
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/545203_483039475124039_383643731_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on August 17, 2013, 11:02:55 pm
I'd punch them, but I over-exercised and my arms hurt enough. So, I'd kick them
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on August 18, 2013, 12:04:23 am
Humanity does learn from history,
sadly, they're rarely the ones in power.

Sigged.

You're using my quote as your sig. Thank you! I'm honored! :)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on August 18, 2013, 12:21:53 am
Humanity does learn from history,
sadly, they're rarely the ones in power.

Sigged.

You're using my quote as your sig. Thank you! I'm honored! :)
You're welcome.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Damen on August 20, 2013, 05:16:48 am
-pic snip-

I really wish (http://fox2now.com/2013/08/19/top-city-health-official-vows-to-break-state-anti-obamacare-laws/) that this cartoon was a joke.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cataclysm on August 20, 2013, 02:20:57 pm
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/1150176_603667273019138_174227221_n.png)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on August 20, 2013, 02:24:07 pm
(https://sphotos-b-iad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/1185473_10153193580790002_1074717517_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RavynousHunter on August 20, 2013, 03:35:43 pm
(https://sphotos-b-iad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/1185473_10153193580790002_1074717517_n.jpg)

I had civics in middle school...7th grade, I think.  I also took US Government in high school.

Unless AR is actually doing something RIGHT, for a change.  Which, I guess, is technically possible...just not probable.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on August 20, 2013, 03:58:55 pm
I had it too, but I don't think it's required in most areas. That being said, judging from my experience it should be better taught, along with most of public education in this country.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on August 20, 2013, 05:16:58 pm
Yeah, it could be better taught. I had US government in high school.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: lord gibbon on August 20, 2013, 07:21:30 pm
Hell yes it can be taught better. That's actually one of the reasons I want to be a teacher. If fundie parents don't like what I teach, well sucks to be them
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lithp on August 21, 2013, 04:44:55 am
I had "US Government," probably in 11th or 12th grade. Again, I'd have to say that the history department in Bellefonte was surprisingly good. Could they maybe have taught more things? I suppose, but they got the 3 branches of government, the powers of each, certain landmark supreme court cases, the Constitution, the significance of each section, each amendment, how they've been interpreted by the supreme court, the development of the political party system, tricks that politicians tend to use to stack the decks in their favor, & even assisted with voter registration, if you were 18 or over. I'd say that's pretty damn good just for a general overview of how government works, & the internet constantly reminds me that I learned things that most people don't. A lot of this was also covered at certain points in "social studies," during middle school.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Meshakhad on August 21, 2013, 05:20:06 am
I had US government in 11th grade (although it was normally 10th grade - my schedule was weird). It was pretty good - we had an excellent textbook. We also got a chance to serve as mock jurors for a trial at the University of Washington Law School.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on August 21, 2013, 07:02:48 am
(http://31.media.tumblr.com/8ace125fad4d2b2dd0dd9a147309beeb/tumblr_mrt9xobdHC1qbxkjao1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on August 24, 2013, 12:10:26 am
See attached.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Leafy on August 24, 2013, 12:43:59 pm
I had a class called "Constitution" in the first semester of 9th grade. We went over the formation of the Constitution and our current government, the amendments, and the political system in general. It was quite an informative class. 
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on August 24, 2013, 11:46:06 pm
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/a7a23ae578511b015267540dacc6d267/tumblr_ms0dowQ2Y71qewacoo1_500.png)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: KZN02 on August 27, 2013, 12:23:47 pm
(http://www.nerfnow.com/comic/image/1093)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on August 27, 2013, 01:23:43 pm
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/023bd47fad6ad0be2860f9ecbfd13a04/tumblr_ms545oNeHx1qbxkjao1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Osama bin Bambi on August 27, 2013, 04:42:09 pm
(http://31.media.tumblr.com/bf6234d00520efef879cf720a9c6b8d8/tumblr_ms5mxnubVo1qap9gno1_1280.png)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on August 28, 2013, 12:52:24 pm
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/93d11fc63790dc00ce27d111bf59b0bf/tumblr_ms92jcpdVB1rb7jc5o1_500.jpg)

(http://31.media.tumblr.com/f2adce1faca3d8bd3890de4b9e9ecd7f/tumblr_ms7tn3lID81qzium9o2_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: mythbuster43 on August 28, 2013, 03:41:29 pm
(http://images1.dailykos.com/i/user/312562/KOs-127-teaser.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on August 29, 2013, 12:21:48 pm
(http://www.leftycartoons.com/wp-content/uploads/denial_is_so_white.png)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on August 30, 2013, 08:57:33 am
Don't know where to put this so here:

(http://31.media.tumblr.com/eb06b5e4215ca45b3430c0db79c03b43/tumblr_mmcidzQUq61sn3z1uo1_500.gif)
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: chad sexington on August 30, 2013, 10:15:27 am
The full thing is on Youtube, but I can't remember the title.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Jack Mann on August 30, 2013, 10:46:15 am
Here it is on Vimeo (http://vimeo.com/64941331)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cataclysm on August 30, 2013, 02:47:12 pm
(https://sphotos-b-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/1240106_665968710089739_1088340743_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on August 30, 2013, 03:20:26 pm
Here it is on Vimeo (http://vimeo.com/64941331)

http://youtu.be/w3sKreIXSrQ

And here it is on Youtube in case vimeo's video player sucks for you like it does for me.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on August 30, 2013, 07:06:19 pm
(http://31.media.tumblr.com/692c1896c2738f95f5955422a096ff4b/tumblr_mscgjlUkZk1qbxkjao1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: KZN02 on August 31, 2013, 03:21:33 pm
Snowdengie

(http://www.nerfnow.com/comic/image/1097)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cataclysm on August 31, 2013, 04:19:07 pm
(https://sphotos-a-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/1230032_494451897316179_723622374_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: KZN02 on August 31, 2013, 05:17:45 pm
(https://sphotos-a-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/1230032_494451897316179_723622374_n.jpg)
Again, I'm wondering if Obama has deliberately planned this with Obamacare and NSA.

And shockingly, the best case scenario, in my opinion, would be Congress getting into another deadlock on this issue, barring unanimously deciding not to intervene in Syria.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lt. Fred on August 31, 2013, 07:00:37 pm
(https://sphotos-b-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/1240106_665968710089739_1088340743_n.jpg)

Genius.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: KZN02 on September 02, 2013, 10:25:34 pm
Not sure if this would be the right place, given the source is from a right-leaning site.

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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: lord gibbon on September 02, 2013, 11:02:22 pm
ABSOLUTELY WRONG! We were not attacked by Islam on 9/11, but by a specific Muslim extremist group. To paint all Muslims with the same brush is incredibly wrong. So yeah, that belongs in the worst thread.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Alehksunos on September 02, 2013, 11:04:06 pm
At first, I thought it was talking about gun lobbyists like the National Rifle Association aiding domestic terrorism because of this "Right to Bear Arms" hocus pocus.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: KZN02 on September 02, 2013, 11:16:50 pm
That being said, one of the groups fighting in Syria has ties to al Qaeda from what I heard.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on September 02, 2013, 11:32:27 pm
That being said, one of the groups fighting in Syria has ties to al Qaeda from what I heard.

One group is not all groups, though.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: mellenORL on September 02, 2013, 11:45:10 pm
It's just opportunistic terrorists hoping to weasel into the replacement government or just take it over via coup. Chaos is their favorite playground.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on September 03, 2013, 12:58:20 pm
Also the rebels are not islamists
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on September 04, 2013, 07:01:31 pm
(http://31.media.tumblr.com/f430c43bc0874c4e123d3bd211c360cf/tumblr_mslhm4LSWz1qbxkjao1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Her3tiK on September 04, 2013, 07:05:37 pm
(http://31.media.tumblr.com/f430c43bc0874c4e123d3bd211c360cf/tumblr_mslhm4LSWz1qbxkjao1_500.jpg)
I don't get it.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lady Evil on September 04, 2013, 07:09:21 pm
(http://31.media.tumblr.com/f430c43bc0874c4e123d3bd211c360cf/tumblr_mslhm4LSWz1qbxkjao1_500.jpg)
I don't get it.

I think it's commentary on how schools are shortchanging students by teaching them how to take standardized tests instead of how to think.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on September 04, 2013, 07:50:35 pm
(http://31.media.tumblr.com/f430c43bc0874c4e123d3bd211c360cf/tumblr_mslhm4LSWz1qbxkjao1_500.jpg)
I don't get it.

I think it's commentary on how schools are shortchanging students by teaching them how to take standardized tests instead of how to think.

Bingo bango bongo.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on September 05, 2013, 12:28:55 am
Just out of curiousity, how common are those multiple choise tests in USA? Because in Finland nearly all of our tests were the type where there are no options to pick from and you have to write down your answer.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on September 05, 2013, 12:30:16 am
Just out of curiousity, how common are those multiple choise tests in USA? Because in Finland nearly all of our tests were the type where there are no options to pick from and you have to write down your answer.
They're 99% of the tests here.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on September 05, 2013, 12:33:04 am
Just out of curiousity, how common are those multiple choise tests in USA? Because in Finland nearly all of our tests were the type where there are no options to pick from and you have to write down your answer.

When I was in school, they were about 60% of the tests I had to do.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Igor on September 05, 2013, 12:36:22 am
Just out of curiousity, how common are those multiple choise tests in USA? Because in Finland nearly all of our tests were the type where there are no options to pick from and you have to write down your answer.
They're 99% of the tests here.
...wow. We had.. the odd test that was like that. The EQAO tests in grades 3, 6, and 9 and the literacy test in grade 10 are the only ones I can remember that were actually like that. Other than that we had multiple choice questions, sure, but those were just sections on tests set by the teacher.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Kit Walker on September 05, 2013, 01:04:03 am
Just out of curiousity, how common are those multiple choise tests in USA? Because in Finland nearly all of our tests were the type where there are no options to pick from and you have to write down your answer.

Well, it can vary from school to school or even teacher to teacher. Fact is that if you have five or six classes of 30-ish kids apiece, it can be hard to give proper short answer or essay only tests. That said, for most of my schooling tests would be a mixture - some multiple choice, some fill-in-the-blank, some short answer, and maybe one or two essay. That's more a function of class sizes, so far as I can tell.

The problem is that we have hugely important standardized, predominantly multiple choice tests that influence everything from the school's funding to students' scholarship opportunities. That's the biggest problem with bubble-in tests.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: wrightway on September 05, 2013, 11:49:24 am
Just out of curiousity, how common are those multiple choise tests in USA? Because in Finland nearly all of our tests were the type where there are no options to pick from and you have to write down your answer.

The laziness of the teacher is a big contributing factor. It's much easier to grade the MCT than written answers.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shano on September 05, 2013, 09:35:34 pm
Just out of curiousity, how common are those multiple choise tests in USA? Because in Finland nearly all of our tests were the type where there are no options to pick from and you have to write down your answer.

The laziness of the teacher is a big contributing factor. It's much easier to grade the MCT than written answers.
You mean how close to complete exhaustion the teacher is, right? Because, the closer we are the more we try to ease the load on us. I am sure that was what you were trying to say.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: wrightway on September 05, 2013, 09:41:49 pm
Just out of curiousity, how common are those multiple choise tests in USA? Because in Finland nearly all of our tests were the type where there are no options to pick from and you have to write down your answer.

The laziness of the teacher is a big contributing factor. It's much easier to grade the MCT than written answers.
You mean how close to complete exhaustion the teacher is, right? Because, the closer we are the more we try to ease the load on us. I am sure that was what you were trying to say.

Yes. Totally. Teachers in the American school system are overworked and underpaid. Very few, if any, can be called lazy.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Osama bin Bambi on September 05, 2013, 11:28:41 pm
Just out of curiousity, how common are those multiple choise tests in USA? Because in Finland nearly all of our tests were the type where there are no options to pick from and you have to write down your answer.

It varies from teacher to teacher. Lazier teachers tend to do multiple-choice tests, while teachers who actually give more of a shit prefer short-answer tests. It also varies from subject to subject - math and science are more likely to be multiple choice tests, while history and language arts are more likely to be short-answer tests or even in-class essays.

The most obvious problem with multiple-choice tests, of course, is that it has more to do with memorization and eliminating impossible choices than it does to do with understanding the information being tested. On top of that, they are notoriously easy to cheat on. (The only foolproof method I've ever seen to prevent this is to create a different version of the multiple-choice test for each student in the class, but this is extremely time-consuming and a teacher with enough time to do this will probably assign a short-answer test anyway.) At least with short-answer tests you can tell when several students have obviously used the same cheat sheet.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on September 05, 2013, 11:38:59 pm
I agree, there are no lazy teachers. They get paid like utter shit, and have ginormous workloads.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on September 06, 2013, 12:10:54 am
I feel like these are appropriate (though some have probably already been posted in this thread):

(http://www.leftycartoons.com/wp-content/uploads/teachers_unions1.png)

(http://www.leftycartoons.com/wp-content/uploads/teacher_pay.png)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on September 06, 2013, 12:27:46 am
I agree, there are no lazy teachers. They get paid like utter shit, and have ginormous workloads.

I disagree. That isn't universal in the US in the least. Even from public school to public school in the same district you will find variance.

Not to mention once we go from high school to college. Because guess what? College has scantron tests, too! Many of my teachers used them. I wouldn't pin all of it down on laziness but it certainly cuts down time and allows you to put more effort into other things.

So no, I wouldn't use the phrase there are no lazy teachers. But that's getting into semantics and such, I'm sure.

With that said, I usually did better on the essay and short answer tests/quizzes than I did multiple choice because my brain shuts down when it comes to picking something. Even if I know the answer I get very doubtful it's the right one when there's another answer right there that might be as likely.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Meshakhad on September 06, 2013, 02:33:57 am
Just out of curiousity, how common are those multiple choise tests in USA? Because in Finland nearly all of our tests were the type where there are no options to pick from and you have to write down your answer.

I think most of my tests outside of math were partially multiple choice. A big test would usually have a multiple choice section, a short answer section, and one essay. There was one teacher who liked to give the students 100-question multiple choice quizzes with no warning. One week he did it four days in a row. The third test was entitled "You Probably Should Have Seen This Coming".
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: anti-nonsense on September 06, 2013, 03:17:07 am
Just out of curiousity, how common are those multiple choise tests in USA? Because in Finland nearly all of our tests were the type where there are no options to pick from and you have to write down your answer.

I think most of my tests outside of math were partially multiple choice. A big test would usually have a multiple choice section, a short answer section, and one essay. There was one teacher who liked to give the students 100-question multiple choice quizzes with no warning. One week he did it four days in a row. The third test was entitled "You Probably Should Have Seen This Coming".

yeah same here, although I think most of my provincial exams (in grade 12) were entirely multiple choice, except for English. Easier to mark quickly I guess, which is a consideration when thousands of tests need to be marked in time to send the final grades to universities/colleges.

I had a few teachers that discouraged guessing on multiple choice tests by taking off extra points for wrong answers, to get students to just leave it blank, although if you had some vague idea of the material and could eliminate two choices out of four, you could often still profit by guessing, since they usually took of less then a whole point extra, so if you had a 50 percent chance of getting it right you were still better off guessing.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: starseeker on September 06, 2013, 04:54:27 am
Multiple choice tests are really rare in the UK, it's always a mix of short answers and essay answers for the official ones. Those are bought from exam boards who also handle the marking so it's not a loss of time to the teacher though.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on September 06, 2013, 07:17:20 am
(http://31.media.tumblr.com/1baca3c741109f15db5f4eddf1eed678/tumblr_msiqctZWGj1rid2qko1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: wrightway on September 06, 2013, 10:28:07 am
(https://sphotos-a-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/1240455_632036146819089_1511439604_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on September 06, 2013, 01:50:42 pm
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Not sure if that is best or worst since I can't tell her ethnicity so I dunno if they are saying latinos as a whole are getting higher wages but what about the working white people or not. 
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: mellenORL on September 06, 2013, 02:37:51 pm
I think it's expressing a snark against the "fuck them, I got mine" mentality, Latino versus Latino. Although it's nationality/ethnicity-specific, it's just another example of poor shaming. I've witnessed this first hand from some Cuban Americans, especially the older generations or young conservatives, who show great disdain for working class Latinos in general, and even show a huge contempt for immigrants in general; the "logic" being that they left their country under threat of death (true enough) and made their way up without "handouts". The obvious bullshit of this mentality is that it was the upper classes in Cuba who could afford to escape the Castro regime. Many of them already spoke and wrote English fluently, having had fine educations in private schools there and abroad. Miami FL was already the financial and import/export capital of the Caribbean region, so quite a few Cuban revolution refugees of the early sixties found professional level jobs right off the boat...and jet plane. As later waves of poor Cubans managed under horrendous and dangerous conditions to survive a sea trip in rickety, over-crowded vessels to land in Key West or Miami, they were often disdained as being trash or criminal escapees by the uber-conservative political fringes of the Cuban community.  It's all very similar to how some white Anglo Americans have great disdain poor whites.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Alehksunos on September 06, 2013, 04:18:30 pm
(http://31.media.tumblr.com/1baca3c741109f15db5f4eddf1eed678/tumblr_msiqctZWGj1rid2qko1_500.jpg)

I can't be the only person who thinks this is sad, because this is from 2001 and it's not different today.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RavynousHunter on September 06, 2013, 04:42:43 pm
(http://www.leftycartoons.com/wp-content/uploads/teacher_pay.png)

That'd be palatable if the top two panels weren't there.  The ending message is very true, but the first panel especially is yet another "BAW, PORNO ACTORS/ACTRESSES HAVE SEX FOR MONEY ON CAMRUH!" bullshit argument.  Yeah, some of the pornographers are scummy pieces of shit that should see jail time, but I highly doubt a great many of 'em are going in to degrade women.  We want to see people fuck, they provide us video and images of people fucking.  Its the shitstains that think because everyone in porn is ultra-horny all the time that all women should be begging for a nice dicking that are the problem.  Let's just ignore the fact that the actors themselves aren't exactly paid meager wages, or at least many of them aren't because porn's been a thriving industry since we could carve images into stone with sticks.

Also, ad makers "cheapen our culture?"  Lolwut?  How?  Please, explain this to me, because it reeks of bullshit.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on September 06, 2013, 06:24:46 pm
Also, ad makers "cheapen our culture?"  Lolwut?  How?  Please, explain this to me, because it reeks of bullshit.

Advertisements today have the express goal of telling people to be materialistic as all hell by attacking their self esteem for not owning that product.  "You are a bad parent if you don't buy this product" "You are ugly if you don't use this product." "You are a sex object, this product will help you with that purpose." "She is a sex object, this product will help you get her in bed." "Hey kids, you're uncool if you're not wearing this clothing." "Hey, trying to lose weight?  Here, have pictures of ABSOLUTELY DELICIOUS LOOKING FOOD!  Good luck with your food addiction." "Look, this person's slightly pudgy, WHAT A FATTY!  Use our product to look like this slim beauty!"

It probably didn't cause our culture to be "cheapened" (I would probably rather use the word "degraded") but ads certainly are contributing to it.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on September 06, 2013, 08:34:23 pm
(http://31.media.tumblr.com/1baca3c741109f15db5f4eddf1eed678/tumblr_msiqctZWGj1rid2qko1_500.jpg)

I can't be the only person who thinks this is sad, because this is from 2001 and it's not different today.

Part of the point.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: chad sexington on September 06, 2013, 08:36:59 pm
Advertisements today have the express goal of telling people to be materialistic as all hell by attacking their self esteem for not owning that product.

That's by no means a modern thing.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on September 06, 2013, 09:10:31 pm
Advertisements today have the express goal of telling people to be materialistic as all hell by attacking their self esteem for not owning that product.

That's by no means a modern thing.

True.  It just seems more prevalent because of the electronic age.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Feral Dog on September 06, 2013, 10:21:40 pm
Advertisements today have the express goal of telling people to be materialistic as all hell by attacking their self esteem for not owning that product.

That's by no means a modern thing.

True.  It just seems more prevalent because of the electronic age.

It doesn't seem more prevalent, it is. The length of commercial breaks have at least doubled since the 1960s, and are getting longer.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: mythbuster43 on September 06, 2013, 10:25:50 pm
Advertisements today have the express goal of telling people to be materialistic as all hell by attacking their self esteem for not owning that product.

That's by no means a modern thing.

True.  It just seems more prevalent because of the electronic age.


It doesn't seem more prevalent, it is. The length of commercial breaks have atleast doubled since the 1960s, and are getting longer.

Indeed. commercial breaks are almost five minutes long on some of the shows I watch. That's at least two minutes longer than when my parents were my age.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Kit Walker on September 06, 2013, 10:28:47 pm
Advertisements today have the express goal of telling people to be materialistic as all hell by attacking their self esteem for not owning that product.

That's by no means a modern thing.

True.  It just seems more prevalent because of the electronic age.

It doesn't seem more prevalent, it is. The length of commercial breaks have at least doubled since the 1960s, and are getting longer.

That one's simple economics - more choices means fewer eyes watching you means you have to sell more ads to exist as a TV station. #defendingmydegreefield.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Sigmaleph on September 07, 2013, 12:08:09 am
Advertisements today have the express goal of telling people to be materialistic as all hell by attacking their self esteem for not owning that product.

That's by no means a modern thing.

True.  It just seems more prevalent because of the electronic age.

It doesn't seem more prevalent, it is. The length of commercial breaks have at least doubled since the 1960s, and are getting longer.

The prevalence of commercials themselves is not the point being discussed, but rather the prevalence of specific goals and methods.

Which might have changed as well, I have no idea. Simply pointing out that it's a different question to answer.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: SCarpelan on September 07, 2013, 12:19:21 am
The goal of adverticing did change around the mid-20th century. Before that the goal was to take advantage of an existing market by highlighting the advantages of your products. Nowadays a big purpose of marketing is to grow the existing market or even create a market for your product by using the previously mentioned psychological methods.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on September 07, 2013, 04:00:57 pm
The goal of adverticing did change around the mid-20th century. Before that the goal was to take advantage of an existing market by highlighting the advantages of your products. Nowadays a big purpose of marketing is to grow the existing market or even create a market for your product by using the previously mentioned psychological methods.
Not true. Many products, like deodorant, invented their own need. In fact, until a marketing campaign invented the dangers of body odor, deodorant did not sell much at all. Other products did much the same.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cataclysm on September 09, 2013, 07:34:44 pm
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/1003552_10153234400845230_1394267256_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Damen on September 09, 2013, 08:15:53 pm
Spoilered because huge.

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: MadCatTLX on September 09, 2013, 09:29:05 pm
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/1003552_10153234400845230_1394267256_n.jpg)

I almost read that as Putocracy.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on September 09, 2013, 10:30:33 pm
Bible Spice tho.

(http://31.media.tumblr.com/c6f3df8036e451e5e3c6c5bc6bf700c7/tumblr_msmk19oydI1s96m7lo1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on September 10, 2013, 12:23:09 am
Spoilered because huge.

(click to show/hide)

Hmmm... I thought I had already heard their worst rape comments, but some of these were brand new ways to be a horrible person.

(http://media.tumblr.com/e327b98763a793d0c60813d468e84534/tumblr_mi6zd48tpA1rhvqn4o1_250.gif)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Alehksunos on September 10, 2013, 12:30:40 am
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/1003552_10153234400845230_1394267256_n.jpg)

Wow, I'm not surprised that the Tea-Party is anti-free-press because "HOW DARE YOU CRITICIZE US YOU AMERICA-HATING LIBERAL COMMIE PINKO FAGS!!!".

I don't know why these narcissistic assholes are taken seriously, have fairly large followings and even given free-reign.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: R. U. Sirius on September 10, 2013, 12:38:26 am
(https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/7779064576/h24D420E8/)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on September 10, 2013, 06:37:16 am
I can't remember where we put memes:

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/eab61472007d24a62e56226cfb8e31ee/tumblr_ms6ir9crMe1rig5ijo1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RavynousHunter on September 10, 2013, 09:49:34 am
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I always thought unpaid internships were a pretty fucking raw deal.  Seems I was right on the money.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on September 10, 2013, 11:43:01 am
my dad said he would hire the interns and whe  i pointed out only 2% increase him dont use facts
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on September 10, 2013, 11:47:13 am
my dad said he would hire the interns and whe  i pointed out only 2% increase him dont use facts
Could someone translate this?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on September 10, 2013, 01:11:07 pm
gaah
okay can you guys please stop
seriously
O
Basically my dad wants me if need be to graduate in 4 rather then 3.5 years if need be for an internship.  I pointed out that unpaid internships dont give me any leg up on finding a job so he counters with a personal anecdote and got mad at me for using stats
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: ironbite on September 10, 2013, 02:36:11 pm
No you need to stop getting so butt hurt when people ask for clarification.

Ironbite-it's seriously getting old.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cerim Treascair on September 10, 2013, 03:03:12 pm
No you need to stop getting so butt hurt when people ask for clarification.

Ironbite-it's seriously getting old.

Ibby's got a point, Kef.  We know you have a learning disability, but that doesn't make you immune to criticism when your forum posts are sometimes downright unintelligible.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on September 10, 2013, 03:24:54 pm
sorry just you here it once...
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: PosthumanHeresy on September 10, 2013, 03:29:56 pm
Spend some extra time on them, read them over and just take a moment before hitting post.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on September 10, 2013, 03:33:01 pm
it will get better once my laptop gets back phone keyboard et all
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: mythbuster43 on September 10, 2013, 03:33:31 pm
(http://s3.amazonaws.com/dk-production/images/47621/lightbox/TMW2013-09-11color.png?1378570746)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on September 10, 2013, 03:59:51 pm
Oh come on, when did something like that even happen to USA?

Apart from the battle of Pearl harbour that is.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: MadCatTLX on September 10, 2013, 05:10:27 pm
it will get better once my laptop gets back phone keyboard et all

What kind of phone are you using? I use an Iphone and I've typed out a number of my longer posts using it. Nearly all of my infamous F&B thread was done via phone.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on September 10, 2013, 05:18:33 pm
I have big hands so the integrated keyboard is still a  bit too small
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: MadCatTLX on September 10, 2013, 05:54:07 pm
I have big hands so the integrated keyboard is still a  bit too small

I know what large hands are like. I wear size XXL gloves and can rarely find rings that fit me unless I google specifically for large rings. My class ring was like a size 15.

I'm probably used to doing fine work even with my larger hands because of my love of Legos when I was younger. Actually, I still love Legos, the problem is that their so damn expensive that buying enough to build the grand designs I wish I could would be expensive as fuck.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on September 10, 2013, 06:09:45 pm
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I always thought unpaid internships were a pretty fucking raw deal.  Seems I was right on the money.

I am kind of in two minds about this. I have work experience kids follow me around at work occassionally. I don't pay them. I do usually get them lunch or buy them a drink from time to time. But I don't pay them. I tell them at the beginning I am not paying you. I have only ever had them for a short period of time and when they actually ask me to do work experience. For some kids they are doing at as a requirement for their admission or they just need to pad out their CV.

They ask me and I actually see it as me doing them a favour. Honestly if I had to pay a work experience kid, when they rang me and asked to do work experience I would say no.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Morgenleoht on September 10, 2013, 06:44:49 pm
It's one thing to do a bit of work experience that might last a week or two or if it's for educational placement purposes (and should be for so many hours). It's another to work full time for no pay for several months in the hope of making contacts or getting experience or a job...
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RavynousHunter on September 11, 2013, 12:53:27 am
Eeh, honestly, if I'm either high up enough in a business or own my own, if someone does work, then they get paid; simple as that.  Do better work, get better money.  I mean, if they're "work study" kids, then I might not pay them as much as college kids looking for credit and something to actually help them, but I'd still pay the former, because I'd still ask them to occasionally participate.  Why?  The same reason some professors leave "unsolvable" problems on their blackboards for students to have a crack at: you never know who might come up with some genius, novel solution to a problem that's dumbfounded several experts.

If a work study kid managed THAT for me, I'd get the motherfucker a car or something.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on September 11, 2013, 12:58:43 am
Some moron in Finland suggested that we should basically start having unpaid interns in Finland as well for the same bullshit reasons. "You get work experience and maybe the company will hire you afterwards."

The same companies that HAVE been hiring students when we haven't got interns. I'm sure they'd be happier if they didn't have to pay, but since they are doing so right now it means that the "intern" idea is not needed. He also suggested that students should start getting loans to support their lifes while studying since they would then be losing the pay that they get with the current system of, you know, WORKING ALONGSIDE THEIR STUDIES ON VACATIONS!


 
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: ironbite on September 11, 2013, 08:44:27 am
Some moron in Finland suggested that we should basically start having unpaid interns in Finland as well for the same bullshit reasons. "You get work experience and maybe the company will hire you afterwards."

The same companies that HAVE been hiring students when we haven't got interns. I'm sure they'd be happier if they didn't have to pay, but since they are doing so right now it means that the "intern" idea is not needed. He also suggested that students should start getting loans to support their lifes while studying since they would then be losing the pay that they get with the current system of, you know, WORKING ALONGSIDE THEIR STUDIES ON VACATIONS!


 

So what American did you guys elect to power?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on September 11, 2013, 03:08:45 pm
(http://s3.amazonaws.com/dk-production/images/47621/lightbox/TMW2013-09-11color.png?1378570746)
Oh come on, when did something like that even happen to USA?

Apart from the battle of Pearl harbour that is.

It didn't happen with Pearl Harbor anyways.

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/cda5976a4c473a8cc4079b072161484a/tumblr_msvul9dyZu1ryg9q7o1_500.jpg)

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/27548af868fda85015d55b803e6e9889/tumblr_mmpx24UWqQ1qblox7o2_r1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: KZN02 on September 16, 2013, 08:43:01 pm
In regards to today.

(https://scontent-a-sjc.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc1/q85/s720x720/999760_498494033561086_1846270722_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on September 17, 2013, 03:15:39 am
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/a49ac8d683a4cf4d249c5027dc233c22/tumblr_mrp1quyr0J1qcgcxfo1_500.jpg)

This might fall under the 'too soon' rule:

(http://31.media.tumblr.com/078b857bad8b907818dee40306e6f5b3/tumblr_mtdt5gF7SU1rroz62o1_500.jpg)

The cartoon is in response to the question "What reaction would occur if a mass shooting occurred in the halls of Congress?"

(http://31.media.tumblr.com/f74de59e442e064d34ef9a03a7795529/tumblr_mtlgu6kAWL1qaqu94o1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cataclysm on September 25, 2013, 12:37:28 am
(https://scontent-a-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/1236701_695247370503855_409888452_n.png)

The story behind it.

(click to show/hide)

Behind that

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/24/ted-cruz-green-eggs-and-ham_n_3985336.html
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on September 25, 2013, 12:53:52 am
(http://l3.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/Vy3FIh3OSG_foK0..Fxy9w--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7Zmk9ZmlsbDtoPTM2MDtweW9mZj0wO3E9ODU7dz01MDA-/http://media.zenfs.com/en_us/News/ucomics.com/bor130911.gif)

Not sure if this was already here, but I still think it's funny and more accurate than I would like it to be.
(http://l2.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/rbhpkZw9cJ1WIS84nFTtzA--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7Zmk9ZmlsbDtoPTM2MjtweW9mZj0wO3E9ODU7dz01MDA-/http://media.zenfs.com/en_us/News/ucomics.com/bor130828.gif)

I love that the implication is that Putin goes shirtless all the time.
(http://l.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/NfiQLaJjHVJWqjS5pqrTUA--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7Zmk9ZmlsbDtoPTM2ODtweW9mZj0wO3E9ODU7dz01MDA-/http://media.zenfs.com/en_us/News/ucomics.com/bor130815.gif)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: KZN02 on September 25, 2013, 02:31:51 am
(https://scontent-a-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/1236701_695247370503855_409888452_n.png)

The story behind it.

(click to show/hide)

Behind that

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/24/ted-cruz-green-eggs-and-ham_n_3985336.html
Holy ****, today is the day Dr. Seuss died.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Osama bin Bambi on September 26, 2013, 08:36:42 pm
Here's a link to the comic because Tumblr won't let me post it here right now for some reason... (http://gronkwena.tumblr.com/post/61666061183/gender-tapas-edit-fixed-for-viewability-click)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on September 26, 2013, 10:13:32 pm
Here's a link to the comic because Tumblr won't let me post it here right now for some reason... (http://gronkwena.tumblr.com/post/61666061183/gender-tapas-edit-fixed-for-viewability-click)

I love it!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cataclysm on September 27, 2013, 12:17:28 am
(https://scontent-b-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/564006_738275369535468_1791019123_n.jpg)

(https://scontent-a-sjc.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/1231572_696327107062548_1641064876_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on September 27, 2013, 10:28:32 am
(http://www.filibustercartoons.com/comics/20130924.gif)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on September 28, 2013, 12:19:03 am
(http://www.filibustercartoons.com/comics/20130924.gif)

I have a confession, the cartoon imagery makes me chuckle.

And Cat Fancy.... ::)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Thejebusfire on September 28, 2013, 06:08:31 pm
(http://31.media.tumblr.com/34d7d6c325c67beb374011240bc73ea9/tumblr_mtqwmav7tJ1rroz62o1_500.gif)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on September 28, 2013, 07:03:26 pm
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/37b9a99a1a4d43f76a4d9c8daf521e9e/tumblr_mtteq8c6ql1qk031lo1_1280.png)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on October 01, 2013, 09:23:30 am
Disclaimer: HUUUGE PICTURE!
(click to show/hide)

I cracked at "I'll be keeping an eye on you..." Then I felt bad since it was so true.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Thejebusfire on October 01, 2013, 01:30:56 pm
(http://31.media.tumblr.com/a2c1888ea88d49d2c473ee843235bb81/tumblr_mtzo42fOZZ1rhifnvo1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Random Gal on October 01, 2013, 02:15:23 pm
It's kind of funny to watch the cardinals running around saying "That's not REALLY what he meant! You misunderstood him!" whenever Pope Francis says anything that isn't fundie enough for them.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: mellenORL on October 01, 2013, 02:35:14 pm
I was going to make a snide, cold blooded comment on how I feel about the upper echelon in the Vatican, and their reactions to the new pope's image building comments since his election. Instead, here is a deliciously conspiritard-ish but fascinating old article that popped up in a search for the shortest-lived papacy of recent years.  His sudden death caused a storm of Kennedy assassination-like speculation. Pope John Paul 1st was also viewed as a reformer, like Francis at least wants to publicly spin himself as being.

http://www.prose-n-poetry.com/display_work/10583/ (http://www.prose-n-poetry.com/display_work/10583/)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on October 01, 2013, 02:59:46 pm
Well I disagree with the cartoon Francis is a total total douchebag who just claims to be a nice guy.  Like he wants nuns to have an expanded role but no female priests for example  not to mention who am i to judge gay people and yet will be declaring John Paull II a saint who judged gay people
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on October 01, 2013, 05:50:43 pm
(http://31.media.tumblr.com/1b6bbd872414e88303c9324534ef7db8/tumblr_mtielbKTMv1r0k5v4o1_500.jpg)

IDK where to put this or if it has already been posted somewhere.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Meshakhad on October 01, 2013, 11:59:27 pm
(http://31.media.tumblr.com/1b6bbd872414e88303c9324534ef7db8/tumblr_mtielbKTMv1r0k5v4o1_500.jpg)

IDK where to put this or if it has already been posted somewhere.

Tell me who banned Anne Frank's diary, so I can snap their spines in half!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on October 02, 2013, 12:01:20 am
(http://31.media.tumblr.com/1b6bbd872414e88303c9324534ef7db8/tumblr_mtielbKTMv1r0k5v4o1_500.jpg)

IDK where to put this or if it has already been posted somewhere.

Tell me who banned Anne Frank's diary, so I can snap their spines in half!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Diary_of_a_Young_Girl#Banning
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Alehksunos on October 02, 2013, 12:04:09 am
^ I was going to point out that the Diary of Anne Frank has been challenged numerous times due to sexual themes. And then I read "homosexual themes" and I'm like "seriously?" Even in a state like Virginia?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: MadCatTLX on October 02, 2013, 12:19:30 am
What homosexual themes does it have?

On a related note, who else here has heard of the Goku/Annefrank fanfiction where Goku battles super sayian Hitler? One has to wonder what compelled someone to write such a story.

http://www.toplessrobot.com/2008/12/fan_ficition_friday_goku_and_anne_frank_in_until_t.php (http://www.toplessrobot.com/2008/12/fan_ficition_friday_goku_and_anne_frank_in_until_t.php)

(http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2012/230/7/8/super_saiyan_hitler_by_unoservix-d5bkggu.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Meshakhad on October 02, 2013, 12:24:15 am
I'll confess, I did once consider writing a fanfic involving the Holocaust. It would have been a Buffy fic about a Slayer who was called while in the camps, and dies saving the world from the Thule Society. Dead Nazis would have featured prominently.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: MadCatTLX on October 02, 2013, 12:29:41 am
I'll confess, I did once consider writing a fanfic involving the Holocaust. It would have been a Buffy fic about a Slayer who was called while in the camps, and dies saving the world from the Thule Society. Dead Nazis would have featured prominently.

That's a little different. Plenty of fictional stories have been written about Hitler getting his ass kicked. I think the old Justice League series had a scene where one of the heroes punched Hitler in the face. The thing is most are more tastefully done than Goku and Anne fighting super sayian Hitler.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RavynousHunter on October 02, 2013, 12:49:53 pm
I'll confess, I did once consider writing a fanfic involving the Holocaust. It would have been a Buffy fic about a Slayer who was called while in the camps, and dies saving the world from the Thule Society. Dead Nazis would have featured prominently.

That's a little different. Plenty of fictional stories have been written about Hitler getting his ass kicked. I think the old Justice League series had a scene where one of the heroes punched Hitler in the face. The thing is most are more tastefully done than Goku and Anne fighting super sayian Hitler.

I dunno bout the JLA, but the cover of the very first Captain America comic had Cap punching Hitler square in the freaking face.

(http://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2006/11/CaptainAmerica01.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cataclysm on October 02, 2013, 01:15:53 pm
What homosexual themes does it have?


Quote
Sometimes, when in lie in bed at night, I have a terrible desire to feel my breasts and to listen to the rhythmic beat of my heart. I already had these kids of feelings subconsciously before I came here, because I remember that once when I slept with a girl friend I had a strong desire to kiss her, and that I did do so. I could not help being terrible inquisitive over her body, for she had always kept it hidden from me. I asked her weather, as proof of our friendship, we should fee one another's breasts, but she refused. I go into ecstasies every time I see the naked figure of a woman, such as Venus, for example. it strikes me as so wonderful and exquisite that i have difficulty in stopping the tears rolling down my cheeks.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: MadCatTLX on October 02, 2013, 01:42:27 pm
What homosexual themes does it have?


Quote
Sometimes, when in lie in bed at night, I have a terrible desire to feel my breasts and to listen to the rhythmic beat of my heart. I already had these kids of feelings subconsciously before I came here, because I remember that once when I slept with a girl friend I had a strong desire to kiss her, and that I did do so. I could not help being terrible inquisitive over her body, for she had always kept it hidden from me. I asked her weather, as proof of our friendship, we should fee one another's breasts, but she refused. I go into ecstasies every time I see the naked figure of a woman, such as Venus, for example. it strikes me as so wonderful and exquisite that i have difficulty in stopping the tears rolling down my cheeks.

Diary of Anne Frank, still better erotica than 50 Shades of Grey.

Seriously though, that actually sounds a lot more erotic than I was expecting. This is probably why at my school we never read the diary, but did read a play based on it. How old was she when she wrote the quote you posted?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on October 02, 2013, 02:53:19 pm
She died when she was 16 but seeing as erotic fiction has been around forever (there are some creepy erotica in the Bible for perspective) I'm guessing she was probably 15
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Meshakhad on October 02, 2013, 03:24:34 pm
They also cut the sexual bits out of the high school play I saw a few months ago.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Kit Walker on October 02, 2013, 07:07:01 pm
Worth noting that Anne Frank's dad excised those bits when he was initially preparing the diary for publication. They were later put back in.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Vypernight on October 02, 2013, 07:50:54 pm
Funny how Ann Frank and Huck Finn get banned for sending out messages, but HP Lovecraft almost always gets through, no matter how dark his stories and creatures are.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on October 02, 2013, 07:56:50 pm
Funny how Ann Frank and Huck Finn get banned for sending out messages, but HP Lovecraft almost always gets through, no matter how dark his stories and creatures are.

Positive but controversial stories are baaaaad.  Mental mind-rape is goooood!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Meshakhad on October 02, 2013, 08:13:41 pm
Worth noting that Anne Frank's dad excised those bits when he was initially preparing the diary for publication. They were later put back in.

I guess I can't blame a man for being uncomfortable about publishing his own daughter's sexual fantasies.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Igor on October 02, 2013, 09:18:30 pm
Funny how Ann Frank and Huck Finn get banned for sending out messages, but HP Lovecraft almost always gets through, no matter how dark his stories and creatures are.
Not to mention racist, have you read Lovecraft? (please note that I'm not calling for anyone to ban Lovecraft, his stories, if you can get around the horrible racism, are really good for the most part, I'm just sayin')
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on October 02, 2013, 10:00:55 pm
Anne Frank was, like many teenagers (not just female teens), someone who was exploring sexuality. The fact that people seem surprised that a 14-16 year old girl would write about her fantasies in her diary is really silly.

Back on topic, as it were:
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/134f6ba9ee4f0c074c55c5a9251a1507/tumblr_mr114l04xP1r55d2io1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on October 03, 2013, 01:01:38 am
The black guy just needs bootstraps  ;D
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Osama bin Bambi on October 03, 2013, 01:28:14 am
Funny how Ann Frank and Huck Finn get banned for sending out messages, but HP Lovecraft almost always gets through, no matter how dark his stories and creatures are.
Not to mention racist, have you read Lovecraft? (please note that I'm not calling for anyone to ban Lovecraft, his stories, if you can get around the horrible racism, are really good for the most part, I'm just sayin')

Lovecraft's racism flies under the radar because it's not widely known or obvious in his writings. There are a couple of his stories which deal with this anxieties over "miscegenation." (Shadow over Innsmouth, for instance, was written in the wake of his horrifying revelation that one of his ancestors was... gasp... Welsh.)

I actually don't see the issue with studying works of authors with horrible opinions in the classroom. I mean, Shakespeare's portrayal of women is far from positive, but all but the most extremely bigoted  (like The Taming of the Shrew and some interpretations of The Merchant of Venice) are popular reading in high school courses. As long as students are encouraged to examine the attitudes in those works critically, I don't see the problem with it. The issue is that a lot of English teachers don't really get students to think about the work critically.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Itachirumon on October 03, 2013, 04:09:48 am
She died when she was 16 but seeing as erotic fiction has been around forever (there are some creepy erotica in the Bible for perspective) I'm guessing she was probably 15

I rather 'like' Song of Solomon. It's actually fairly good literature coming from a book used to persecute billions. If the Bible were more like Song of Solomon, we might actually have gotten somewhere. But I digress....
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Kit Walker on October 03, 2013, 09:01:00 am
Funny how Ann Frank and Huck Finn get banned for sending out messages, but HP Lovecraft almost always gets through, no matter how dark his stories and creatures are.

Well, most times Lovecraft doesn't end up on required reading lists.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on October 03, 2013, 11:11:29 am
Funny how Ann Frank and Huck Finn get banned for sending out messages, but HP Lovecraft almost always gets through, no matter how dark his stories and creatures are.
Not to mention racist, have you read Lovecraft? (please note that I'm not calling for anyone to ban Lovecraft, his stories, if you can get around the horrible racism, are really good for the most part, I'm just sayin')

Lovecraft's racism flies under the radar because it's not widely known or obvious in his writings. There are a couple of his stories which deal with this anxieties over "miscegenation." (Shadow over Innsmouth, for instance, was written in the wake of his horrifying revelation that one of his ancestors was... gasp... Welsh.)

I actually don't see the issue with studying works of authors with horrible opinions in the classroom. I mean, Shakespeare's portrayal of women is far from positive, but all but the most extremely bigoted  (like The Taming of the Shrew and some interpretations of The Merchant of Venice) are popular reading in high school courses. As long as students are encouraged to examine the attitudes in those works critically, I don't see the problem with it. The issue is that a lot of English teachers don't really get students to think about the work critically.
Odd Shakesphere's women were fairly strong for the era in some of his more obscure plays like the Tempest.  Merchant of Venice well I dodn't actually know if he would have gotten published if he didn't have Shylock stop being a jew
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Skybison on October 03, 2013, 11:42:05 am
(http://thecontributor.com/sites/default/files/breaking-news/2013/09/shutdown-02.jpg)

(http://www.newsrealblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/obamacare-cartoon1.jpg)

(http://stmedia.startribune.com/images/548*425/sack091313.jpg)

Speaking as a canadian who has been watching the Obamacare "debate" I'm just baffled by how paranoid the US right is over their own fucking idea!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on October 04, 2013, 12:54:11 pm
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/372926a250a1ce6de6cb802575c017e1/tumblr_mu3sklbThF1r55d2io1_500.gif)
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/926be48259f11864ecf3e5dc892324e5/tumblr_mu52w8zRUg1ryg9q7o1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on October 04, 2013, 02:01:25 pm
She died when she was 16 but seeing as erotic fiction has been around forever (there are some creepy erotica in the Bible for perspective) I'm guessing she was probably 15

I rather 'like' Song of Solomon. It's actually fairly good literature coming from a book used to persecute billions. If the Bible were more like Song of Solomon, we might actually have gotten somewhere. But I digress....

I've read the Song of Solomon. It's very beautiful erotic love poem.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Osama bin Bambi on October 05, 2013, 04:35:59 pm
Spoilered for size:

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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: mellenORL on October 05, 2013, 07:43:57 pm
Smoking Dodongo needs to make that the wallpaper on his mom's computer. Wow.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on October 06, 2013, 01:51:53 am
Smoking Dodongo needs to make that the wallpaper on his mom's computer. Wow.
Yeah. I think the bit about suicides (depression goes hand in hand with this) and housing problems are the ones that people should really pay attention to. I still can't believe that parents would throw their kids out on the streets over something like this in the 21st century.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RavynousHunter on October 06, 2013, 06:37:13 pm
Smoking Dodongo needs to make that the wallpaper on his mom's computer. Wow.
Yeah. I think the bit about suicides (depression goes hand in hand with this) and housing problems are the ones that people should really pay attention to. I still can't believe that parents would throw their kids out on the streets over something like this in the 21st century.

Some "parents" really have no right being in the same room as a child, much less raising one.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on October 07, 2013, 07:06:00 am
(http://l3.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/3QYPVwGmtZcqSxYuga_3tQ--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7Zmk9ZmlsbDtoPTM3MTtweW9mZj0wO3E9NzU7dz01MDA-/http://media.zenfs.com/en_us/News/ucomics.com/bor130925.gif)

(http://l.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/HQ4CRmZMRy8tNmo4CGyNlw--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7Zmk9ZmlsbDtoPTM2MztweW9mZj0wO3E9NzU7dz01MDA-/http://media.zenfs.com/en_us/News/ucomics.com/bor131002.gif)

Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Random Gal on October 07, 2013, 02:21:33 pm
Xkcd was particularly good today.

http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/open_letter.png
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on October 10, 2013, 02:51:13 am
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/5b6525f3438e412f4e04f0d440952093/tumblr_mufuyicw9X1r0gq7do1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: worlder on October 10, 2013, 09:59:31 pm
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/5b6525f3438e412f4e04f0d440952093/tumblr_mufuyicw9X1r0gq7do1_500.jpg)

Uhh, Err.

I prefer there be faces at least.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ghoti on October 10, 2013, 10:23:21 pm
Smoking Dodongo needs to make that the wallpaper on his mom's computer. Wow.
Did somebody say SmokingDodongo?
Spoilered for size:

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Oh look, a truth bomb! Too bad my mother would interpret that as "trans people suck" and not as "cis people's reactions to trans people suck".
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Sixth Monarchist on October 11, 2013, 04:46:36 pm
Uhh, Err.

I prefer there be faces at least.

It's probably an advert, so saving on space (they're all recognisable in any event) would make sense in that context. The real problem is with checking for breast cancer whilst wearing a sculpted breastplate (top panel), which would be completely ineffective.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: MadCatTLX on October 12, 2013, 04:01:53 am
Uhh, Err.

I prefer there be faces at least.

It's probably an advert, so saving on space (they're all recognisable in any event) would make sense in that context. The real problem is with checking for breast cancer whilst wearing a sculpted breastplate (top panel), which would be completely ineffective.

I think the red part of Wonder Woman's costume is a fabric or leather, only the gold/brass parts are hard.

Is the third one a female Hulk? I don't recognize her off the top of my head.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cerim Treascair on October 12, 2013, 04:08:00 am
Uhh, Err.

I prefer there be faces at least.

It's probably an advert, so saving on space (they're all recognisable in any event) would make sense in that context. The real problem is with checking for breast cancer whilst wearing a sculpted breastplate (top panel), which would be completely ineffective.

I think the red part of Wonder Woman's costume is a fabric or leather, only the gold/brass parts are hard.

Is the third one a female Hulk? I don't recognize her off the top of my head.

Yepperoonie, that's She-Hulk.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on October 12, 2013, 08:08:49 pm
Well if you're going to nitpick. :P

Still, from top to bottom: Wonder Woman, Catwoman, She-Hulk, Storm.

Also yes, it's an ad.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cataclysm on October 13, 2013, 04:08:16 pm
(https://scontent-b-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/1381978_706316809396911_1721493833_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: KZN02 on October 14, 2013, 01:02:49 pm
(https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/7845536512/h7EBF551D/)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cataclysm on October 14, 2013, 02:02:06 pm
(https://scontent-b-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/1382979_707004259328166_1946777742_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on October 16, 2013, 02:57:38 am
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/0a96fa3cd632389ca52c9de129eb723d/tumblr_muf3fg7QzF1rb7jc5o1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cerim Treascair on October 16, 2013, 04:44:51 am
And guess what happened as of about 4 hours and 45 minutes ago...
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: largeham on October 16, 2013, 09:55:16 am
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/0a96fa3cd632389ca52c9de129eb723d/tumblr_muf3fg7QzF1rb7jc5o1_500.jpg)

*cough* Contras *cough*
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on October 16, 2013, 03:33:36 pm
(http://notalwayslearning.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/Youre-Not-Wrong.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on October 17, 2013, 02:17:27 am
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/dd9bbb6c941b0a8700e5c4e86e21cfeb/tumblr_mudpkvpR0S1rgdaewo1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on October 17, 2013, 07:06:22 am
(http://angryflower.com/default.gif)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on October 17, 2013, 05:39:43 pm
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/0b39f8c1e01fa8d86962a5a9c2f85cb9/tumblr_mutvuuLx3E1ru5h8co1_500.gif)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Yla on October 18, 2013, 06:06:40 am
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/0b39f8c1e01fa8d86962a5a9c2f85cb9/tumblr_mutvuuLx3E1ru5h8co1_500.gif)
IDGI.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: QueenofHearts on October 18, 2013, 06:26:15 am
Yeah, I'm kind of in the dark too...
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on October 18, 2013, 06:32:06 am
I think it's implying that just because the goverment shutdown is over it does not mean that USA is fine now. I cannot be sure if this is because the artist feels that Obamacare will destroy it or because the things that lead to the shutdown still exist and the politicians will continue to tear the country apart.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cataclysm on October 18, 2013, 01:58:02 pm
It's from that new Fox show that's a ripoff of Robot Chicken I think.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on October 18, 2013, 03:38:15 pm
It's from that new Fox show that's a ripoff of Robot Chicken I think.

If the FOX in question is the propaganda channel (O'Reilly, Hannity, etc.) rather than the regular entertainment network (Simpsons, Family Guy, etc.), then this toon might need to be in the Worst Political Cartoons section.

It's so vague. It could be interpreted either way.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on October 18, 2013, 08:54:25 pm
I think it's implying that just because the goverment shutdown is over it does not mean that USA is fine now. I cannot be sure if this is because the artist feels that Obamacare will destroy it or because the things that lead to the shutdown still exist and the politicians will continue to tear the country apart.

I interpreted it as that.

It's from that new Fox show that's a ripoff of Robot Chicken I think.

It's so vague. It could be interpreted either way.

Not the first time we've had vague toons interpreted either way. :P
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on October 18, 2013, 09:02:55 pm
"It's open but it's not exactly stable" seems to be my most literal interpretation of it.

...Which is accurate, regardless of the source.  Stopped clock and all.

Of course, the disagreement is about why it's not working, which the cartoon doesn't cover.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on October 19, 2013, 03:37:12 pm
Yeah, basically.


(http://24.media.tumblr.com/d23b6c9e84194b976a60b3818f252b8d/tumblr_mfcrlfCRDG1qzrhx3o1_500.png)
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/ab06ea676f6d8e583eb9c987597338b2/tumblr_muy9hicuLZ1ql5m5go1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Veras on October 20, 2013, 12:30:42 am
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/ab06ea676f6d8e583eb9c987597338b2/tumblr_muy9hicuLZ1ql5m5go1_500.jpg)

Said no founding father... until they were in power. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alien_and_Sedition_Acts)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on October 20, 2013, 12:40:20 am
I was under the impression that was more about open rebellion rather than simple verbal dissent.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Meshakhad on October 20, 2013, 03:59:28 am
Ehh, it goes too far for that. The only explanation I can come up with is that they had a brain fart and assumed Congress could override the 1st Amendment (the Alien and Sedition Acts predate the concept of judicial review).
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: KZN02 on October 20, 2013, 11:58:52 pm
(https://scontent-b-sjc.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/1381408_711140438914548_1388783288_n.jpg)

I just had an idea: "Don't worry, burns are covered by Obamacare."
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Veras on October 21, 2013, 01:24:17 am
I was under the impression that was more about open rebellion rather than simple verbal dissent.

No, it targeted simple verbal dissent.

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Matthew Lyon, born in Ireland, was a Democratic-Republican congressman from Vermont. He was indicted under the Sedition Act for an essay he had written in the Vermont Journal accusing the administration of "ridiculous pomp, foolish adulation, and selfish avarice". While awaiting trial, Lyon commenced publication of Lyon's Republican Magazine, subtitled "The Scourge of Aristocracy". At trial, he was fined $1,000 and sentenced to four months in prison. After his release, he returned to Congress.

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Benjamin Franklin Bache was editor of the Aurora, a Democratic-Republican newspaper. Bache had accused George Washington of incompetence and financial irregularities, and "the blind, bald, crippled, toothless, querulous ADAMS" of nepotism and monarchical ambition. He was arrested for his activities, but he died of yellow fever before trial.

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In November 1798, David Brown led a group in Dedham, Massachusetts in setting up a liberty pole with the words, "No Stamp Act, No Sedition Act, No Alien Bills, No Land Tax, downfall to the Tyrants of America; peace and retirement to the President; Long Live the Vice President"...Brown pled guilty but Justice Samuel Chase asked him to name others who had assisted him.  Brown refused, was fined $480, and sentenced to eighteen months in prison, the most severe sentence ever imposed under the Sedition Act.

Ehh, it goes too far for that. The only explanation I can come up with is that they had a brain fart and assumed Congress could override the 1st Amendment (the Alien and Sedition Acts predate the concept of judicial review).

I prefer historian Hannah Arendt's quote as an explanation, "The most radical revolutionary will become a conservative the day after the revolution."  The Federalists had power, and chose to use that power to target their political opponents.  They even made sure to write the law so that it expired right before the end of President Adams's term, just in case the Democratic-Republicans won the next election (as was the case).
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on October 21, 2013, 01:30:11 am
Huh. Well, I'll be damned. Live and learn.

Unlike... well...

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/2d9d2304fbca2a6f3045aee3a1de070b/tumblr_muyy98MTBx1ryg9q7o1_500.gif)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Yla on October 21, 2013, 06:22:54 am
(https://scontent-b-sjc.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/1381408_711140438914548_1388783288_n.jpg)

I just had an idea: "Don't worry, burns are covered by Obamacare."
Gloating. Meh.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: KZN02 on October 21, 2013, 03:49:00 pm
(https://scontent-b-sjc.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/1381408_711140438914548_1388783288_n.jpg)

I just had an idea: "Don't worry, burns are covered by Obamacare."
Gloating. Meh.
I apologize then.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Osama bin Bambi on October 21, 2013, 08:00:05 pm
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/67631e09cc814bd96ba7426adea8a591/tumblr_mv14ai0KaE1qi5tjxo1_1280.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Kit Walker on October 22, 2013, 12:30:17 pm
Huh. Well, I'll be damned. Live and learn.

Unlike... well...

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/2d9d2304fbca2a6f3045aee3a1de070b/tumblr_muyy98MTBx1ryg9q7o1_500.gif)

Considering the rhetoric coming out of the wing of the GOP actually most responsible for the shut down, a more apt thought bubble on this one would be "If I'd just held the lever longer, I bet I woulda gotten a food pellet!"
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on October 22, 2013, 01:49:24 pm
They have mentioned about how they're going to try to do it again, tho. Hence the 'next time'.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: ironbite on October 22, 2013, 04:17:03 pm
And during an election year at that.

Ironbite-I am simply amazed at how stupid they're being.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on October 24, 2013, 02:56:38 am
(http://31.media.tumblr.com/795002962377f154c8a79b0f2a63d474/tumblr_mv5pjayJ4s1qlvie8o4_500.gif)
(http://31.media.tumblr.com/b6d9e55227c8389a438f9cd3e64ecf38/tumblr_mv5pjayJ4s1qlvie8o6_500.gif)
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/00b0e47549ad6938bdd498cc61931147/tumblr_mv5pjayJ4s1qlvie8o7_500.gif)
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/f1bc3c2a888163f22b40dfa514c6a18c/tumblr_mv5pjayJ4s1qlvie8o8_500.gif)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on October 24, 2013, 08:43:12 pm
(http://31.media.tumblr.com/795002962377f154c8a79b0f2a63d474/tumblr_mv5pjayJ4s1qlvie8o4_500.gif)
(http://31.media.tumblr.com/b6d9e55227c8389a438f9cd3e64ecf38/tumblr_mv5pjayJ4s1qlvie8o6_500.gif)
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/00b0e47549ad6938bdd498cc61931147/tumblr_mv5pjayJ4s1qlvie8o7_500.gif)
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/f1bc3c2a888163f22b40dfa514c6a18c/tumblr_mv5pjayJ4s1qlvie8o8_500.gif)

LOL!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on October 27, 2013, 01:07:10 pm
(http://www.pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/tumblr_mqkhhob8KD1qcy3blo1_500.gif)

Well, it makes a point despite everything else.

(http://www.pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/tumblr_mmcv6mOqpv1qkml81o1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: QueenofHearts on October 31, 2013, 04:14:50 pm
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on October 31, 2013, 04:24:29 pm
How is that a political cartoon? O_o
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RavynousHunter on November 03, 2013, 05:24:11 pm
How is that a political cartoon? O_o

Because munching some fine carpet is considered "unmanly" by some?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: QueenofHearts on November 03, 2013, 05:38:27 pm
How is that a political cartoon? O_o

Because munching some fine carpet is considered "unmanly" by some?

And whiskey is the backbone of the Tennessee economy, about time it gets some support! Not to mention a great call to separate church and state.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lt. Fred on November 03, 2013, 07:44:25 pm
How is that a political cartoon? O_o

Because munching some fine carpet is considered "unmanly" by some?

And whiskey is the backbone of the Tennessee economy, about time it gets some support! Not to mention a great call to separate church and state.

The horse piss your Tennessee countrymen pump out is not whiskey. Admittedly, nor is the cat piss Australians produce. If it ain't from Scotland, it better be Irish.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: QueenofHearts on November 03, 2013, 07:45:50 pm
How is that a political cartoon? O_o

Because munching some fine carpet is considered "unmanly" by some?

And whiskey is the backbone of the Tennessee economy, about time it gets some support! Not to mention a great call to separate church and state.

The horse piss your Tennessee countrymen pump out is not whiskey. Admittedly, nor is the cat piss Australians produce. If it ain't from Scotland, it better be Irish.

Please, don't extend the beer debate to whiskey. I mean, we get it "everyone has a favorite drink and everyone else's drink is dildos"
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: largeham on November 03, 2013, 07:46:42 pm
How is that a political cartoon? O_o

Because munching some fine carpet is considered "unmanly" by some?

And whiskey is the backbone of the Tennessee economy, about time it gets some support! Not to mention a great call to separate church and state.

The horse piss your Tennessee countrymen pump out is not whiskey. Admittedly, nor is the cat piss Australians produce. If it ain't from Scotland, it better be Irish.

Fo' shizzle.

But really, nothing beats a good Scottish single malt whiskey.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on November 03, 2013, 08:15:22 pm
Actually Tasmanian and Japanese whiskies are both pretty fine.

I have only recently discovered Bourbon and some of it is ok as long as you can get past how sweet it is.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Random Gal on November 03, 2013, 08:25:31 pm
I...um, don't drink.

Or smoke...anything, for that matter.

I must be really boring.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ghoti on November 03, 2013, 09:37:19 pm
This is like that one bit in Mass Effect 3 where Ken is talking about how the Illusive Man is obviously evil because he drinks American bourbon, except not funny.

Me, I mix vodka and cranberry juice in equal measure, then put it in a highball glass and add clear soda to fill. Not sure what to call it, but I'll gladly get wasted on it.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: mellenORL on November 03, 2013, 10:44:37 pm
All of the Tennessee whiskies were formulated by ethnic Scots and Irish colonists. It's whiskey, made with the best grains they could grow, the best water, and then filtered and aged with nice clean charred oak instead of bog peat, which means they got to leave out that oh so magical "secret" ingredient of ancient, sacrificed bodies and dead fall animal carcasses, all nicely mummified by centuries of soaking in the peat's tannins.  :P So, nyah.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Canadian Mojo on November 04, 2013, 04:03:22 am
All of the Tennessee whiskies were formulated by ethnic Scots and Irish colonists. It's whiskey, made with the best grains they could grow, the best water, and then filtered and aged with nice clean charred oak instead of bog peat, which means they got to leave out that oh so magical "secret" ingredient of ancient, sacrificed bodies and dead fall animal carcasses, all nicely mummified by centuries of soaking in the peat's tannins.  :P So, nyah.

Mmmm. Love that distilled essence of human sacrifice.

Still better than lutefisk.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Vypernight on November 04, 2013, 06:01:50 am
I...um, don't drink.

Or smoke...anything, for that matter.

I must be really boring.

Same here.  The previous generations ruined it for me.  I decided I'm better off with soda, water, and junk food.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: mellenORL on November 04, 2013, 08:19:31 am
All of the Tennessee whiskies were formulated by ethnic Scots and Irish colonists. It's whiskey, made with the best grains they could grow, the best water, and then filtered and aged with nice clean charred oak instead of bog peat, which means they got to leave out that oh so magical "secret" ingredient of ancient, sacrificed bodies and dead fall animal carcasses, all nicely mummified by centuries of soaking in the peat's tannins.  :P So, nyah.

Mmmm. Love that distilled essence of human sacrifice.

Still better than lutefisk.

I actually think Scots whiskey is about as metal as you can get. Think about it.

And ya couldn't pay me enough to eat a plate of lutefisk. Codfish jello WTF!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on November 04, 2013, 01:00:17 pm
This is like that one bit in Mass Effect 3 where Ken is talking about how the Illusive Man is obviously evil because he drinks American bourbon, except not funny.

That wast my favorite conversation! Mainly because I and my Shepard agreed and refused to drink bourbon at all.

Back on topic:

(http://31.media.tumblr.com/33b033aea36d6196b359adef0d064b92/tumblr_mvr19usdfO1qbxkjao1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Canadian Mojo on November 04, 2013, 09:05:36 pm
All of the Tennessee whiskies were formulated by ethnic Scots and Irish colonists. It's whiskey, made with the best grains they could grow, the best water, and then filtered and aged with nice clean charred oak instead of bog peat, which means they got to leave out that oh so magical "secret" ingredient of ancient, sacrificed bodies and dead fall animal carcasses, all nicely mummified by centuries of soaking in the peat's tannins.  :P So, nyah.

Mmmm. Love that distilled essence of human sacrifice.

Still better than lutefisk.

I actually think Scots whiskey is about as metal as you can get. Think about it.

And ya couldn't pay me enough to eat a plate of lutefisk. Codfish jello WTF!

Don't need to think about it, I'm drinking a glass of it right now... and listening to Amon Amarth.  :)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ghoti on November 05, 2013, 12:03:34 am
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Meshakhad on November 05, 2013, 03:40:39 am
I can't taste the difference between diet pop and regular pop. I hate them all.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on November 05, 2013, 12:27:28 pm
Regular soda makes my mouth feel weird. And it doesn't taste sweet at all.

(http://31.media.tumblr.com/00b7f673be0d0689f135ee265d18c039/tumblr_mvr1c4VYK61qbxkjao1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on November 05, 2013, 02:48:00 pm
Awww, poor snake, being associated with such a mean organization.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on November 06, 2013, 08:21:05 pm
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/6d51bfc8eafa9adc53503fe934e00047/tumblr_mvgc2hrAtx1rb7jc5o1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cerim Treascair on November 08, 2013, 12:27:05 pm
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/6d51bfc8eafa9adc53503fe934e00047/tumblr_mvgc2hrAtx1rb7jc5o1_500.jpg)

Miserably, one of my cousins (who wanted her child, and she's an awesome mom at 22) went through that recently.  It fucking stopped when her dad pulled out a nine iron from the golf clubs he carries around in his car and clocked one of the guys.  Everybody stared at him after he laid the asshole out.  All he had to do was say one thing.

"That was my nine iron.  I have another fourteen clubs at my disposal.  Step away from my daughter and leave her alone, or I'll happily send you all to the hospital."

The cops didn't arrest my uncle, because it wasn't lethal force and the group were harrassing my cousin first.  Weird case of 'self-defense by proxy'.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Canadian Mojo on November 08, 2013, 02:03:05 pm
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/6d51bfc8eafa9adc53503fe934e00047/tumblr_mvgc2hrAtx1rb7jc5o1_500.jpg)

Miserably, one of my cousins (who wanted her child, and she's an awesome mom at 22) went through that recently.  It fucking stopped when her dad pulled out a nine iron from the golf clubs he carries around in his car and clocked one of the guys.  Everybody stared at him after he laid the asshole out.  All he had to do was say one thing.

"That was my nine iron.  I have another fourteen clubs at my disposal.  Step away from my daughter and leave her alone, or I'll happily send you all to the hospital."

The cops didn't arrest my uncle, because it wasn't lethal force and the group were harrassing my cousin first.  Weird case of 'self-defense by proxy'.

Are you sure the cops didn't just think the asshole deserved a nine iron shaped lump in the head or worse and decided to call it legit?  ;D

What was your cousin doing/where was she that she had to put up with that sort of shit because I just can't imagine this was a random occurance?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cerim Treascair on November 08, 2013, 04:16:13 pm

Are you sure the cops didn't just think the asshole deserved a nine iron shaped lump in the head or worse and decided to call it legit?  ;D

What was your cousin doing/where was she that she had to put up with that sort of shit because I just can't imagine this was a random occurance?

It may be that they may have thought the guy had it coming.  One of the cops that showed up was an assistant football coach for the high school right next door.  And apparently the guy my uncle whacked had... a history of being a racist, sexist dickhole.  And actively LOOKING for trouble.

And my cousin was out shopping for furniture with her parents for her new place with her then-fiance (now hubby, and happily married).  They got accosted in the parking lot.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on November 09, 2013, 01:59:24 pm
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/134f6ba9ee4f0c074c55c5a9251a1507/tumblr_mr114l04xP1r55d2io1_500.jpg)

Did I post this one already I can't remember anymore
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Veras on November 09, 2013, 03:02:43 pm
Yes, but it's just as good the second time.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on November 09, 2013, 04:42:50 pm
Heh. Oops. But yeah. I think it's pretty relevant no matter what.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on November 10, 2013, 01:16:22 am
That same theme has been seen in many political comics. BECAUSE THAT APPEARS TO BE SOMETHING THAT HAS TO BE SAID AGAIN AND AGAIN BECAUSE SOME PEOPLE JUST DON'T GET IT WHY POOR PEOPLE DESERVE MORE HELP THAN THE RICH.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RavynousHunter on November 10, 2013, 10:36:38 am
I can't taste the difference between diet pop and regular pop. I hate them all.
Unfortunately, I have a rather sensitive tongue, and I can pretty much always tell between artificial sweetener like Splenda or aspartame and either high-fructose corn syrup or regular sugar.  The aftertaste of the former is a fucking killer, lemme tell ya.  Then, there's Sugar In The Raw, which pretentious places like Starbucks use in place of real fucking sugar.  Sugar In The Raw may be "raw sugar," but lemme tell ya, it can't sweeten a cup of coffee anymore than I could with my own saliva; that is to say, not at fucking all.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on November 10, 2013, 01:25:34 pm
Oddly, I have found a very specific brand of diet soda I like.  I don't usually like diet any-other-stuff.  This one, however, tastes good, like it works with the artificial sweetener instead of trying to force it in in place of sugar.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on November 13, 2013, 06:27:50 pm
(http://31.media.tumblr.com/8d92208a31fdf9e80c73c5682bdb6d3c/tumblr_mw7vya1HW01r55d2io1_500.jpg)
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/60207346d63f0037007ea07076bcf087/tumblr_mw3zppJzJg1squntwo1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on November 17, 2013, 05:43:53 am
(http://timkreider.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/Terrorists-vs-Spree-Killers-wo-title.jpg)
There is a nice essay to go with the picture:
http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2013/9/11/what-is-the-differencebetweenspreekillersandterrorists.html
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: largeham on November 17, 2013, 07:45:29 am
There is a nice essay to go with the picture:
http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2013/9/11/what-is-the-differencebetweenspreekillersandterrorists.html

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The initial reaction of a lot of victims, onlookers and commenters to the Boston bombing, before anyone knew who was behind it, was an anguished Why? There are of course some sensible reasons for needing to know this; if the perpetrators had accomplices or backers who might be planning further attacks, the police and government should know about it as soon as possible. But I don't believe the real, reason behind the public's urgent need to know the motives of the bombers was a practical one. After Boston, I wanted to know Why too; what I still don't understand is why we needed to know why. Rationally, this question doesn't make any more sense when asked about a terrorist attack or mass shooting than it does when it’s about a tornado, or cancer. It's essentially what Job asked the whirlwind...

To seek to understand the motives of such people is, in a way, to cede them too much credence and dignity. Who cares what was going on in someone's head when he decided to blow up a parade or shoot up a grade school?

Wut? Seriously? The point of asking 'Why?' is not to lend credence or legitimacy, but to understand the reason behind whatever you are looking at. Unless you remove the cause/s for terrorist attacks/random shooting etc, nothing will change. There is a practical use behind asking why.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on November 17, 2013, 11:36:40 am
(http://timkreider.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/Terrorists-vs-Spree-Killers-wo-title.jpg)
There is a nice essay to go with the picture:
http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2013/9/11/what-is-the-differencebetweenspreekillersandterrorists.html


"At this point, being a member of al-Qaeda is sort of like being a member of Anonymous — if you claim you're in it, maybe you are."

Um. What. The author of that essay seems to have a clear misunderstanding of the whole situation and the differences between spree shooter and terrorist.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on November 17, 2013, 12:30:50 pm
Terrorists can often be spree shooters but a terrorist needs a goal something that he is fighting for.  Brevick for instance was fighting to free Norway from phantom Muslims
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on November 17, 2013, 01:15:07 pm
(http://media.timesfreepress.com/img/photos/2013/11/11/131112_Please_Wait.gif)

I can't remember but I think this is only one of like three gif cartoons from Bennett.

(http://media.timesfreepress.com/img/photos/2013/11/15/131116_Inspiring_t618.jpg?ba5b5b122dd3d37cc13d83e92a6a0ec0d5bfa32a)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on November 17, 2013, 01:20:00 pm

"At this point, being a member of al-Qaeda is sort of like being a member of Anonymous — if you claim you're in it, maybe you are."

Um. What. The author of that essay seems to have a clear misunderstanding of the whole situation and the differences between spree shooter and terrorist.

Actually I think at one point that was what Osama was going for. Al-Qaeda did always have a centralized official leadership unlike Anonymous but at the same time they approved of decentralization and have allowed otherwise unconnected terrorists to do attacks in the name of their organisation. (Unless I have seriously dreamed up this and horribly misled, I'll try to find some article to back up these claims.)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on November 17, 2013, 02:42:12 pm
If you mean the fact that they released information on how to make your own bombs and such that is true. But that's not the same as being a part of the organization. Which is where I have the problem.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on November 17, 2013, 03:16:51 pm
Ok. I tried looking and the closes to what I had remembered was in this:
http://al-sahwa.blogspot.fi/2010/01/al-qaeda-franchise-or-conglomerate.html

And even then I had misunderstood some things. Specifically that I thought that Al-Qaeda would be best considered a "franchise" while that article makes a good claim that "conglomerate" is a more appropriate business model. Basically, they do allow other terrorist groups to use their name and in fact actively recruit other already formed groups to join Al-Qaeda. But rather than replacing the other groups methods with their own they allow them much freedom in operations and methods, mainly being interested in results and being able to say "We did that" whenever there is a terrorist attack.

The difference being that if they were a franchise like, say Starbucks, they would also make all the new additions into copies of themselves rather than allow them operational freedom. But as I assumed, getting in is pretty easy, though perhaps not as easy as being part of Anonymous as I assumed.

And I guess since the whole point of Anonymous is that there is no central command and anyone can claim to be part of it there is a difference with Al-Qaeda (I mean other than not being mass murderers and islamic terrorists) in that if you join Al-Qaeda the main group does give you orders. It also means that there is guidance and education available from the main group, which makes them dangerous.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Random Gal on November 24, 2013, 03:10:51 am
Originally in an article linked on the Best of Social Justice Thread:

(http://www.transadvocate.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/transphobia_mistake.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lt. Fred on November 24, 2013, 07:15:39 am
There is a nice essay to go with the picture:
http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2013/9/11/what-is-the-differencebetweenspreekillersandterrorists.html

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The initial reaction of a lot of victims, onlookers and commenters to the Boston bombing, before anyone knew who was behind it, was an anguished Why? There are of course some sensible reasons for needing to know this; if the perpetrators had accomplices or backers who might be planning further attacks, the police and government should know about it as soon as possible. But I don't believe the real, reason behind the public's urgent need to know the motives of the bombers was a practical one. After Boston, I wanted to know Why too; what I still don't understand is why we needed to know why. Rationally, this question doesn't make any more sense when asked about a terrorist attack or mass shooting than it does when it’s about a tornado, or cancer. It's essentially what Job asked the whirlwind...

To seek to understand the motives of such people is, in a way, to cede them too much credence and dignity. Who cares what was going on in someone's head when he decided to blow up a parade or shoot up a grade school?

Wut? Seriously? The point of asking 'Why?' is not to lend credence or legitimacy, but to understand the reason behind whatever you are looking at. Unless you remove the cause/s for terrorist attacks/random shooting etc, nothing will change. There is a practical use behind asking why.

Nine tenths of minority group terrorism is the over-reaction* to legitimate grievances. That's true of Northern Ireland, Palestine, Iraq and a host of other places and times. Obviously, part of a decent, serious counter-insurgency response must be to alleviate those grievances; this is how the Northern Ireland Troubles ended, for instance. African terrorism against whites in South Africa (which was serious, at times) basically ended as soon as apartheid did. If this response is not considered- perhaps as part of a suite of responses- this is a good clue that what is being undertaken is not counter-insurgency at all, but terrorism of a different sort. If you will not even consider stopping the evil thing you are doing that is angering people so much they are willing to give up their lives to stop it- if you value your oppression more than you value the lives of your citizens, then perhaps it is not them that is the fundamental problem.

* This is a poor way to put this. I mean mis-reaction, but that isn't a word. I don't mean to suggest that the grievances behind, for instance, the Tamil Tigers or the Mau Mau were less serious than their reaction to them, just that a terrorist response almost never improves a situation.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on November 24, 2013, 07:39:36 am
Well I don't agree about everything with Kreider but I think his "let's ignore them and not even bother to find out why they did this" was more about the medias reaction to spree killers. Some of them clearly wanted to go out "in a blaze of glory" and were in fact hoping that they would be on the news because of the slaughter they caused. There even are some people who celebrate mass murderers.

Like Fred said for a terrorist/guerilla movement to survive for long they need the support of the people and there usually is some reason for their support. Wether that reason is hostile occupation, dictatorship, rising nationalistic-identity or even religious reasons going after the cause is more effective than simply fighting the symptom.

Not that it would always be that easy, for example having some region of your country wanting to break off into a new country is quite common (The Basque, Quebec, Northern Ireland, Palestine, etc.) and few countries look towards that favourably even if they haven't been mistreating those citizens.

EDIT: Quick add, not all of those groups I listed are terrorists. In fact, I doubt the Quebecians for example would support their members starting a wave of terrorism against Canada. There simply is no support for violence as Canada hasn't given cause for it. Which is unlike the Palestinian case, for example.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on November 24, 2013, 11:11:43 am
There is a nice essay to go with the picture:
http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2013/9/11/what-is-the-differencebetweenspreekillersandterrorists.html

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The initial reaction of a lot of victims, onlookers and commenters to the Boston bombing, before anyone knew who was behind it, was an anguished Why? There are of course some sensible reasons for needing to know this; if the perpetrators had accomplices or backers who might be planning further attacks, the police and government should know about it as soon as possible. But I don't believe the real, reason behind the public's urgent need to know the motives of the bombers was a practical one. After Boston, I wanted to know Why too; what I still don't understand is why we needed to know why. Rationally, this question doesn't make any more sense when asked about a terrorist attack or mass shooting than it does when it’s about a tornado, or cancer. It's essentially what Job asked the whirlwind...

To seek to understand the motives of such people is, in a way, to cede them too much credence and dignity. Who cares what was going on in someone's head when he decided to blow up a parade or shoot up a grade school?

Wut? Seriously? The point of asking 'Why?' is not to lend credence or legitimacy, but to understand the reason behind whatever you are looking at. Unless you remove the cause/s for terrorist attacks/random shooting etc, nothing will change. There is a practical use behind asking why.

Nine tenths of minority group terrorism is the over-reaction* to legitimate grievances. That's true of Northern Ireland, Palestine, Iraq and a host of other places and times. Obviously, part of a decent, serious counter-insurgency response must be to alleviate those grievances; this is how the Northern Ireland Troubles ended, for instance. African terrorism against whites in South Africa (which was serious, at times) basically ended as soon as apartheid did. If this response is not considered- perhaps as part of a suite of responses- this is a good clue that what is being undertaken is not counter-insurgency at all, but terrorism of a different sort. If you will not even consider stopping the evil thing you are doing that is angering people so much they are willing to give up their lives to stop it- if you value your oppression more than you value the lives of your citizens, then perhaps it is not them that is the fundamental problem.

* This is a poor way to put this. I mean mis-reaction, but that isn't a word. I don't mean to suggest that the grievances behind, for instance, the Tamil Tigers or the Mau Mau were less serious than their reaction to them, just that a terrorist response almost never improves a situation.

I agree. If the Israeli Govt., for example, didn't treat the Palestinians like sewage & the two sides buried the hatchet, that alone would put a damper on Islamic Fundyism & Terrorism. If the USA handled Iraq, Afghanistan, etc. with a boatload of humanitarianism (while genuinely learning about & respecting the citizens people) rather than blowing stuff up, things would be different. Of course, having some military types around for safety & self-defense (in case of weirdos like Taliban) would be wise but a militaristic, invasion approach is just plain stupid.

This, of course, makes Far-Right Western Terrorists even more evil. Guys like the Tsarnev brothers may have had some legit grievances behind their insanity but Breivik just wanted to preserve his bigoted backwards "white privilege".

I see nothing wrong with Western/1st World folks going to 2nd & 3rd World countries to improve things per se, I just think it's wrong & imperialistic to just charge in & not consider the cultures, feelings & mindset of the citizens.

It's sad because, the charge of "Imperialism/White Man's Burden/Cultural Appropriation" can really hamper people who genuinely want to help out. Why can't folks in the West allowed to make up for their mistakes & undo their screw-ups?

That said, again, it's understandable. The West has been misguided & stupid in trying to help & made things worse. This produces all sorts of mistrust, thus making future aid harder.

Better to send unbiased sociologists to said cultures (perhaps of similar ethnicity to the culture/society in question) to live among them & UNDERSTAND them first...then use that knowledge to better help out while considering the people you're helping.


Originally in an article linked on the Best of Social Justice Thread:

(http://www.transadvocate.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/transphobia_mistake.jpg)

This is too awesome for words! Food for thought!


Well I don't agree about everything with Kreider but I think his "let's ignore them and not even bother to find out why they did this" was more about the medias reaction to spree killers. Some of them clearly wanted to go out "in a blaze of glory" and were in fact hoping that they would be on the news because of the slaughter they caused. There even are some people who celebrate mass murderers.

Like Fred said for a terrorist/guerilla movement to survive for long they need the support of the people and there usually is some reason for their support. Wether that reason is hostile occupation, dictatorship, rising nationalistic-identity or even religious reasons going after the cause is more effective than simply fighting the symptom.

Not that it would always be that easy, for example having some region of your country wanting to break off into a new country is quite common (The Basque, Quebec, Northern Ireland, Palestine, etc.) and few countries look towards that favourably even if they haven't been mistreating those citizens.

EDIT: Quick add, not all of those groups I listed are terrorists. In fact, I doubt the Quebecians for example would support their members starting a wave of terrorism against Canada. There simply is no support for violence as Canada hasn't given cause for it. Which is unlike the Palestinian case, for example.

Agreed. One of the main reasons for the seemingly weekly mass-shootings is because notoriety is one of the factors. Shooters should remain anonymous or semi-anonymous! Don't plaster their mugs & names all over the place! Don't publish their manifestos or pre-shooting videos! Just refer to them as "The Columbine Shooters", "The V-Tech Shooters" "The Aurora Shooter", "The Norway Camp Shooter", "The Boston Bombers", etc.

You can still speculate on their motives & such but keep the perp(s) nameless, faceless & voiceless. Same goes for serial killers, assassins & such - "The Kennedy Assassin", "The Lennon Assassin", "The McDonald's Shooter", "The 42 Caliber Killer (rather than 'Son of Sam' which refers to the killer's statements)", "The Volkswagen Killer", "The Tate-LaBianca Killers/Ringleader", "The Cleveland Triple-Kidnapper" etc.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lt. Fred on November 24, 2013, 07:11:47 pm
Nine tenths of minority group terrorism is the over-reaction* to legitimate grievances. That's true of Northern Ireland, Palestine, Iraq and a host of other places and times. Obviously, part of a decent, serious counter-insurgency response must be to alleviate those grievances; this is how the Northern Ireland Troubles ended, for instance. African terrorism against whites in South Africa (which was serious, at times) basically ended as soon as apartheid did. If this response is not considered- perhaps as part of a suite of responses- this is a good clue that what is being undertaken is not counter-insurgency at all, but terrorism of a different sort. If you will not even consider stopping the evil thing you are doing that is angering people so much they are willing to give up their lives to stop it- if you value your oppression more than you value the lives of your citizens, then perhaps it is not them that is the fundamental problem.

* This is a poor way to put this. I mean mis-reaction, but that isn't a word. I don't mean to suggest that the grievances behind, for instance, the Tamil Tigers or the Mau Mau were less serious than their reaction to them, just that a terrorist response almost never improves a situation.

This, of course, makes Far-Right Western Terrorists even more evil. Guys like the Tsarnev brothers may have had some legit grievances behind their insanity but Breivik just wanted to preserve his bigoted backwards "white privilege".

I think our response to these organisations is often revealing. Take Italy. Everyone has heard of the Baader-Meinhof Gang, and maybe even the Italian Revolutionary Front, both of whom operated in Italy. Both of them were (rightly) the target of major police efforts to stop them. But they were trivial compared to the true Italian terrorist groups, firstly the fascists like the Nuclei Armati Rivoluzionari, and secondly the Mafia. These killed far more people, did far more damage and were far more threatening to the state. The amount of resources devoted to crushing them (and indeed the amount of media attention on them) is and almost always has been minimal compared to the less dangerous left wing groups. Why? Because left wing politics is dangerous and right wing politics is not. The importance of a terrorist act to the Italian state has nothing to do with the act, but the motivation behind it, and the propaganda value to the state.

Also, these groups make up most of the 10% or so that are not fundamentally motivated by some legitimate grievance.

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I see nothing wrong with Western/1st World folks going to 2nd & 3rd World countries to improve things per se, ... It's sad because, the charge of "Imperialism/White Man's Burden/Cultural Appropriation" can really hamper people who genuinely want to help out. Why can't folks in the West allowed to make up for their mistakes & undo their screw-ups?
 

I do!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Yla on November 25, 2013, 05:12:32 am
Nine tenths of minority group terrorism is the over-reaction* to legitimate grievances. That's true of Northern Ireland, Palestine, Iraq and a host of other places and times. Obviously, part of a decent, serious counter-insurgency response must be to alleviate those grievances; this is how the Northern Ireland Troubles ended, for instance. African terrorism against whites in South Africa (which was serious, at times) basically ended as soon as apartheid did. If this response is not considered- perhaps as part of a suite of responses- this is a good clue that what is being undertaken is not counter-insurgency at all, but terrorism of a different sort. If you will not even consider stopping the evil thing you are doing that is angering people so much they are willing to give up their lives to stop it- if you value your oppression more than you value the lives of your citizens, then perhaps it is not them that is the fundamental problem.

* This is a poor way to put this. I mean mis-reaction, but that isn't a word. I don't mean to suggest that the grievances behind, for instance, the Tamil Tigers or the Mau Mau were less serious than their reaction to them, just that a terrorist response almost never improves a situation.

This, of course, makes Far-Right Western Terrorists even more evil. Guys like the Tsarnev brothers may have had some legit grievances behind their insanity but Breivik just wanted to preserve his bigoted backwards "white privilege".

I think our response to these organisations is often revealing. Take Italy. Everyone has heard of the Baader-Meinhof Gang, and maybe even the Italian Revolutionary Front, both of whom operated in Italy. Both of them were (rightly) the target of major police efforts to stop them. But they were trivial compared to the true Italian terrorist groups, firstly the fascists like the Nuclei Armati Rivoluzionari, and secondly the Mafia. These killed far more people, did far more damage and were far more threatening to the state. The amount of resources devoted to crushing them (and indeed the amount of media attention on them) is and almost always has been minimal compared to the less dangerous left wing groups. Why? Because left wing politics is dangerous and right wing politics is not. The importance of a terrorist act to the Italian state has nothing to do with the act, but the motivation behind it, and the propaganda value to the state.

Also, these groups make up most of the 10% or so that are not fundamentally motivated by some legitimate grievance.
Nitpick, the Red Army Faction (aka Baader-Meinhof gang) was a German group, and while they occasionally struck targets or cooperated with groups outside Germany (most famously the Landshut hijacking by Palestinians), Italy was not a center of their attention in any way. I agree with your observation and am not opposed to your conclusion, but you're probably mixing up some names.

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I see nothing wrong with Western/1st World folks going to 2nd & 3rd World countries to improve things per se, ... It's sad because, the charge of "Imperialism/White Man's Burden/Cultural Appropriation" can really hamper people who genuinely want to help out. Why can't folks in the West allowed to make up for their mistakes & undo their screw-ups?
 

I do!
Not understandy, please elaboratey.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lt. Fred on November 25, 2013, 06:53:49 pm
Nine tenths of minority group terrorism is the over-reaction* to legitimate grievances. That's true of Northern Ireland, Palestine, Iraq and a host of other places and times. Obviously, part of a decent, serious counter-insurgency response must be to alleviate those grievances; this is how the Northern Ireland Troubles ended, for instance. African terrorism against whites in South Africa (which was serious, at times) basically ended as soon as apartheid did. If this response is not considered- perhaps as part of a suite of responses- this is a good clue that what is being undertaken is not counter-insurgency at all, but terrorism of a different sort. If you will not even consider stopping the evil thing you are doing that is angering people so much they are willing to give up their lives to stop it- if you value your oppression more than you value the lives of your citizens, then perhaps it is not them that is the fundamental problem.

* This is a poor way to put this. I mean mis-reaction, but that isn't a word. I don't mean to suggest that the grievances behind, for instance, the Tamil Tigers or the Mau Mau were less serious than their reaction to them, just that a terrorist response almost never improves a situation.

This, of course, makes Far-Right Western Terrorists even more evil. Guys like the Tsarnev brothers may have had some legit grievances behind their insanity but Breivik just wanted to preserve his bigoted backwards "white privilege".

I think our response to these organisations is often revealing. Take Italy. Everyone has heard of the Baader-Meinhof Gang, and maybe even the Italian Revolutionary Front, both of whom operated in Italy. Both of them were (rightly) the target of major police efforts to stop them. But they were trivial compared to the true Italian terrorist groups, firstly the fascists like the Nuclei Armati Rivoluzionari, and secondly the Mafia. These killed far more people, did far more damage and were far more threatening to the state. The amount of resources devoted to crushing them (and indeed the amount of media attention on them) is and almost always has been minimal compared to the less dangerous left wing groups. Why? Because left wing politics is dangerous and right wing politics is not. The importance of a terrorist act to the Italian state has nothing to do with the act, but the motivation behind it, and the propaganda value to the state.

Also, these groups make up most of the 10% or so that are not fundamentally motivated by some legitimate grievance.
Nitpick, the Red Army Faction (aka Baader-Meinhof gang) was a German group, and while they occasionally struck targets or cooperated with groups outside Germany (most famously the Landshut hijacking by Palestinians), Italy was not a center of their attention in any way. I agree with your observation and am not opposed to your conclusion, but you're probably mixing up some names.

I mean that they operated in Italy in the sense that they lived there at times and planned operations from there. The Italian police also chased them somewhat.

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I see nothing wrong with Western/1st World folks going to 2nd & 3rd World countries to improve things per se, ... It's sad because, the charge of "Imperialism/White Man's Burden/Cultural Appropriation" can really hamper people who genuinely want to help out. Why can't folks in the West allowed to make up for their mistakes & undo their screw-ups?
 

I do!
Not understandy, please elaboratey.
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The racism of a colonial power isn't the problem, it's a symptom. The problem is one country running another without permission and usually without meaningful participation. That is inherently a problem. The other problem is that no country ever uses force except in its own interests. Only very occasionally do those interests align with what should be done, in Bangladesh, for instance, and Cambodia.

So if you go invade someone else's country even with stated humanitarian motives, nine times out of ten your real motives will lead to the opposite effect.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on November 25, 2013, 08:01:15 pm
Basically even if there were WMDs in Iraq us invading would have still killed more people
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lt. Fred on November 25, 2013, 11:31:00 pm
Basically even if there were WMDs in Iraq us invading would have still killed more people

That example is pretty obvious, because Iraq would have used its WMD. Why not?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on November 26, 2013, 12:50:01 am

Lt. Fred said;
The racism of a colonial power isn't the problem, it's a symptom. The problem is one country running another without permission and usually without meaningful participation. That is inherently a problem. The other problem is that no country ever uses force except in its own interests. Only very occasionally do those interests align with what should be done, in Bangladesh, for instance, and Cambodia.

So if you go invade someone else's country even with stated humanitarian motives, nine times out of ten your real motives will lead to the opposite effect.



I must clear something up. I by no means meant "Military Invasion". I do not support the invasions in Iraq or elsewhere. I meant humanitarian relief, education, charity. Peaceful solutions that get to the root of the problem. I'm sick of war! Just go there to address their social & humanitarian issues....belief systems and attitudes that hinder progress. Give a bit of aid but help them to build themselves up....But without disregarding their culture.

Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lt. Fred on November 26, 2013, 02:10:24 am

The racism of a colonial power isn't the problem, it's a symptom. The problem is one country running another without permission and usually without meaningful participation. That is inherently a problem. The other problem is that no country ever uses force except in its own interests. Only very occasionally do those interests align with what should be done, in Bangladesh, for instance, and Cambodia.

So if you go invade someone else's country even with stated humanitarian motives, nine times out of ten your real motives will lead to the opposite effect.

I must clear something up. I by no means meant "Military Invasion". I do not support the invasions in Iraq or elsewhere. I meant humanitarian relief, education, charity. Peaceful solutions that get to the root of the problem.
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Oh, fair enough. My mistake.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on November 26, 2013, 03:11:49 pm

The racism of a colonial power isn't the problem, it's a symptom. The problem is one country running another without permission and usually without meaningful participation. That is inherently a problem. The other problem is that no country ever uses force except in its own interests. Only very occasionally do those interests align with what should be done, in Bangladesh, for instance, and Cambodia.

So if you go invade someone else's country even with stated humanitarian motives, nine times out of ten your real motives will lead to the opposite effect.

I must clear something up. I by no means meant "Military Invasion". I do not support the invasions in Iraq or elsewhere. I meant humanitarian relief, education, charity. Peaceful solutions that get to the root of the problem.

Oh, fair enough. My mistake.
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That's okay. It's all good.  :)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Osama bin Bambi on December 02, 2013, 12:17:58 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abZmFCs-ltY
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Alehksunos on December 02, 2013, 12:29:10 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abZmFCs-ltY

I love that video. So much. I absolutely love the ice cream machine allegory of this video.

I think I've shared the same video a while ago.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on December 02, 2013, 12:35:28 am
I've seen it before too and it is pretty good.


However the Matrix was a good movie (the sequels were a bit shit) but goddamn I used to love to get high and watch the matrix one of only 3 movies that Keanau didn't destroy with his terrible acting. The other two being Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure where he basically didn't have to act and the other being 'The Devil's Advocate'  because Al Pacino was so good he just absorbed all the bad acting emitted by Keanau.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Alehksunos on December 02, 2013, 12:40:55 am
From what I remember from the author:

"The Matrix is a fun movie, just not one to base a philosophy on" or something like that.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on December 02, 2013, 01:11:10 am
As I said I would get high and watch it. I would agree its hardly a philosophical movie. I expect that the makers of the matrix did not suspect that people would go from 'reality is an illusion' in a Cartesian kind of way and morph that into "the red pill is a metaphor for the way that bitches ruin my life by being bitches who don't fuck me but fuck all these arseholes, which makes women bitches which means I should be an arsehole to get bitches" philosophy.

Anyway when it came out the combination of the special effects (which were brand new then and now are in everything), a really nice joint, some beer and some potato chips made for many a pleasant day when I should have been in class at uni.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lt. Fred on December 02, 2013, 03:22:08 am
From what I remember from the author:

"The Matrix is a fun movie, just not one to base a philosophy on" or something like that.

I am convinced that the Matrix was made specifically in order to discredit post-modern theory and in particular the offensively stupid theorist Jean Baudrillard by associating it and him with a big dumb action flick. I am not convinced that a large part of post-modern theory's collapsing support within academia in the post-Matrix period cannot be assigned to the Wachowski duo.

And I thank them, profusely. They have done yeoman's work.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Osama bin Bambi on December 04, 2013, 12:10:38 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1w5Pb1-zayA
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on December 04, 2013, 01:17:17 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1w5Pb1-zayA
Sigh good effort rare Israeli leftist but even the mainstream left is full of racists. 
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Meshakhad on December 04, 2013, 09:41:32 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1w5Pb1-zayA
Sigh good effort rare Israeli leftist but even the mainstream left is full of racists.

Actually, Israel has a lot of leftists. Their first prime minister was an outright Socialist. Israel also has a single-payer healthcare system and a lot of communes. Many have called the kibbutz movement the most successful example of socialism to date.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on December 04, 2013, 09:44:52 am
I meant in terms of things like immigration Palestine etc. 
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RavynousHunter on December 05, 2013, 10:04:46 am
Just because a person says they're on the same side as you are doesn't mean that the two of you really ARE on the same side.  That's how spies have worked for thousands of years.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on December 09, 2013, 01:51:37 am
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Meshakhad on December 09, 2013, 11:33:41 am
I meant in terms of things like immigration Palestine etc.

I didn't realize the primary definition of a leftist was their position on Palestine.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on December 09, 2013, 01:40:14 pm
Intersectional leftists  8)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on December 09, 2013, 01:40:46 pm
I meant in terms of things like immigration Palestine etc.

I didn't realize the primary definition of a leftist was their position on Palestine.

Well I was recently told that the primary definitions of right wing are your position on minorities, immigrants and generally being intolerant. You know rather than any political positions you might have.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Meshakhad on December 09, 2013, 01:43:07 pm
I meant in terms of things like immigration Palestine etc.

I didn't realize the primary definition of a leftist was their position on Palestine.

Well I was recently told that the primary definitions of right wing are your position on minorities, immigrants and generally being intolerant. You know rather than any political positions you might have.

I'd say it's a hodgepodge. When it comes to economic issues, Israel is a little to the left of Scandinavia.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Osama bin Bambi on December 09, 2013, 10:45:38 pm
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on December 10, 2013, 12:11:34 am
"Sexism is a sin."

Now that's a religious statement I can get behind.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: I am lizard on December 10, 2013, 12:29:00 am
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on December 10, 2013, 01:00:52 am
Spoilered for size:

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I Shrank it a little for you:
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This is full of epic WIN!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on December 10, 2013, 05:19:55 am
(https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/7939991552/hA0647A4B/)

Homophobia: The fear that gay men will treat you the same way you treat women.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Damen on December 10, 2013, 06:34:25 am
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/5d44a9b65faca63a24d533cb997781f0/tumblr_moyu6tma7z1qep5zro1_500.jpg)

I love this and I am somewhat happily amused by the fact that the girl is far from being overweight. Seriously, people, depriving yourself is no way to lose weight but it will ensure you binge a lot and often. Now excuse me while I go and continue to laugh.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on December 10, 2013, 04:27:48 pm
Too bad healthy food tends to be relatively tasteless (or worse, tastes bitter or such) to the point where it triggers binge eating of junk food anyways.

Of course the healthy food that does have a flavor seems to be reserved for the rich and famous, AKA the people who can afford it.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cerim Treascair on December 10, 2013, 06:39:50 pm
Too bad healthy food tends to be relatively tasteless (or worse, tastes bitter or such) to the point where it triggers binge eating of junk food anyways.

Of course the healthy food that does have a flavor seems to be reserved for the rich and famous, AKA the people who can afford it.

it's sad when a fruit platter (which I actually love and will decimate the fuck out of) is a 'special occassion' thing.  Because they tend to cost $30.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: TheL on December 11, 2013, 05:40:22 pm
Isn't it cheaper to make your own fruit salad?

Also, if pomegranates weren't WAY too big to eat myself, I'd buy them more often.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on December 11, 2013, 05:51:45 pm
Depends on the time of year.  Also American food prices are artificially low due to hired child pickers
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on December 11, 2013, 06:48:34 pm
...Pomegranates too big to eat by yourself? Are we eating the same pomegranates cause I finish one in a day. And if you can't do that you can always save the parts of it you didn't eat by putting it in a plastic bag and tucking it away in the fridge until you're ready for another "serving".

Also I'm sad cause pomegranate season is coming to a close so I'm trying to get as many as I can before there aren't anymore. They've already spiked to over $3 per.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Meshakhad on December 12, 2013, 09:08:55 am
The ones I get can be finished in a single sitting.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: KZN02 on December 12, 2013, 04:37:41 pm
(http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/198z7ni0pm8nyjpg/ku-xlarge.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on December 12, 2013, 04:39:01 pm
DYING OVER HERE XD

Am I the only one who was reminded of Dees' cartoons because of the actual logo, though?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on December 12, 2013, 08:32:23 pm
Did it have to mock ba h geti
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on December 12, 2013, 08:43:30 pm
Did it have to mock ba h geti

Not trying to be mean/rude but: What?

The ones I get can be finished in a single sitting.

If I put my mind to it I can eat it in one 'sitting' but I try to spread it out over the day which means half now, half later on.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on December 12, 2013, 10:24:55 pm
that was the anime where that girl is from sorry
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: starseeker on December 13, 2013, 06:19:07 am
Another source said the girl's from 'Hentai Ouji to Warawanai Neko'.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on December 13, 2013, 10:37:11 am
Thats right sorry its hard to keep it straight
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lt. Fred on December 15, 2013, 12:52:49 am
I meant in terms of things like immigration Palestine etc.

The term is Progressive Except Palestine, or PEP for short. An excellent example of:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u52Oz-54VYw

I meant in terms of things like immigration Palestine etc.

I didn't realize the primary definition of a leftist was their position on Palestine.

Well I was recently told that the primary definitions of right wing are your position on minorities, immigrants and generally being intolerant. You know rather than any political positions you might have.

I'd say it's a hodgepodge. When it comes to economic issues, Israel is a little to the left of Scandinavia.

Really? Scandinavia really is quite an incredibly wonderful place. I don't mean to belittle Israel; you're (they're?) way better on this stuff than Australia. But I don't think that, for instance, Israel has anywhere near the Gini of, say, Sweden. Not to mention labour relations law!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on December 15, 2013, 09:11:33 am
I meant in terms of things like immigration Palestine etc.

The term is Progressive Except Palestine, or PEP for short. An excellent example of:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u52Oz-54VYw

I meant in terms of things like immigration Palestine etc.

I didn't realize the primary definition of a leftist was their position on Palestine.

Well I was recently told that the primary definitions of right wing are your position on minorities, immigrants and generally being intolerant. You know rather than any political positions you might have.

I'd say it's a hodgepodge. When it comes to economic issues, Israel is a little to the left of Scandinavia.

Really? Scandinavia really is quite an incredibly wonderful place. I don't mean to belittle Israel; you're (they're?) way better on this stuff than Australia. But I don't think that, for instance, Israel has anywhere near the Gini of, say, Sweden. Not to mention labour relations law!
Also progressive except Palestine and African refugees
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RavynousHunter on December 15, 2013, 10:00:57 am
We can't have people thinking Israel cares about something other than itself, now can we?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on December 15, 2013, 08:52:24 pm
(https://scontent-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/1464101_744734298888495_2049004340_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on December 16, 2013, 12:02:23 am
Notice how that guy looks sad. "You mean trickle down economics ISN'T real? I have been lied to for my whole life..."
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lt. Fred on December 16, 2013, 01:30:43 am
We can't have people thinking Israel cares about something other than itself, now can we?

Also, if you're a critic of the policies of the state of Israel, you're an anti-semite, but we have no idea from whence this new wave of anti-semitism comes.

Also, you have to justify your criticism of us to us (because we get to decide what is a non-bigoted level of criticism).
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RavynousHunter on December 16, 2013, 02:25:01 pm
Its sad, really.  No human is above being able to be called out on their idiocy...not me, not the Pope, not Israel's government, nobody.

Then again, they'd probably consider me insane for daring to treat all humans as equals.

Remember children, you can simultaneously be FOR equality while still treating other people like lesser lifeforms.  I know I'm one to talk, but...how do I humility?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Meshakhad on December 17, 2013, 10:26:18 pm
Really? Scandinavia really is quite an incredibly wonderful place. I don't mean to belittle Israel; you're (they're?) way better on this stuff than Australia. But I don't think that, for instance, Israel has anywhere near the Gini of, say, Sweden. Not to mention labour relations law!

Israel is less liberal and more leftist. And they've moved to the right since they were founded. But Israel's first prime minister, David Ben-Gurion, was friendly with Ho Chi Minh. In fact, Israel is probably not that far off from what Vietnam could have been if the US had supported Vietnamese independence.

Also progressive except Palestine and African refugees

I won't disagree that Israel's treatment of the African refugees has been atrocious.

Also, if you're a critic of the policies of the state of Israel, you're an anti-semite, but we have no idea from whence this new wave of anti-semitism comes.


I've not seen much of that sentiment, actually. A common opinion is that holding Israel to a double standard while not demanding the same from other countries (particularly the Arabs) is anti-Semitism. I think this idea has merit, but it gets murky, and can be used to try to whitewash Israel's actions. But merely criticizing Israeli policies is not anti-Semitism. If it were, then the entire Israeli left are anti-Semites.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on December 17, 2013, 10:36:52 pm
First of all the double standard is more that the west gives Israel a free pass while condemning other countries.  Like we condemn the Chinese for doing the exact same thing in Tibet
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Osama bin Bambi on December 17, 2013, 10:49:21 pm
Also, if you're a critic of the policies of the state of Israel, you're an anti-semite, but we have no idea from whence this new wave of anti-semitism comes.
I've not seen much of that sentiment, actually. A common opinion is that holding Israel to a double standard while not demanding the same from other countries (particularly the Arabs) is anti-Semitism. I think this idea has merit, but it gets murky, and can be used to try to whitewash Israel's actions. But merely criticizing Israeli policies is not anti-Semitism. If it were, then the entire Israeli left are anti-Semites.

Also, another issue with that argument is that Arabs are not a homogenous group, and Palestinians have experienced racism in other Middle Eastern nations because they are essentially refugees. Shifting the blame back on "Arabs" (which is hard to define in this case, because some people use it as a buzzword for Palestinians or even Middle Easterners in general) demonizes them while refusing to understand the complexity of the situation, erases Palestinians of their own identity and experiences in other nations, and is a distraction from the fact that the root cause of the Palestinian refugee crises is Israel's and only Israel's actions, not the actions of Jordan or Lebanon or whosoever.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Meshakhad on December 17, 2013, 11:21:56 pm
Also, if you're a critic of the policies of the state of Israel, you're an anti-semite, but we have no idea from whence this new wave of anti-semitism comes.
I've not seen much of that sentiment, actually. A common opinion is that holding Israel to a double standard while not demanding the same from other countries (particularly the Arabs) is anti-Semitism. I think this idea has merit, but it gets murky, and can be used to try to whitewash Israel's actions. But merely criticizing Israeli policies is not anti-Semitism. If it were, then the entire Israeli left are anti-Semites.

Also, another issue with that argument is that Arabs are not a homogenous group, and Palestinians have experienced racism in other Middle Eastern nations because they are essentially refugees. Shifting the blame back on "Arabs" (which is hard to define in this case, because some people use it as a buzzword for Palestinians or even Middle Easterners in general) demonizes them while refusing to understand the complexity of the situation, erases Palestinians of their own identity and experiences in other nations, and is a distraction from the fact that the root cause of the Palestinian refugee crises is Israel's and only Israel's actions, not the actions of Jordan or Lebanon or whosoever.

I disagree. The Palestinian refugee crisis, in my opinion, stems primarily from bad luck. The Palestinians left in 1948 primarily because they didn't want to get caught in the middle of a warzone, which I find to be a perfectly rational response. They figured they'd come back after the Arab armies had crushed the Jews. Unfortunately for them, their side lost. Another problem is that they didn't keep extensive records of who owned what, so returning their property isn't a cut-and-dry issue.

The Arabs (primarily the Syrians and Lebanese) do get some of the blame for exacerbating the refugee crisis, by refusing to let the refugees assimilate. I should point out that the Jordanians DID let them assimilate, which is another reason why I like Jordan.

There's a lot of outdated rhetoric floating about on both sides. While some of the Arab nations did historically use Israel as a boogeyman, Syria and Hezbollah (and Iran, although they're not Arabs) are the only ones doing it now. The Arab people do care strongly about the Israel/Palestinian conflict, but their governments are actually more inclined to back Israel against Syria or Iran these days. If the conflict were to be resolved soon, I think you'd see Israel, Jordan, and Saudi Arabia forming a new power bloc to counter Iran.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on December 17, 2013, 11:31:55 pm
Or Iran decides fuck it and quits
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lt. Fred on December 17, 2013, 11:37:04 pm
Also, if you're a critic of the policies of the state of Israel, you're an anti-semite, but we have no idea from whence this new wave of anti-semitism comes.


I've not seen much of that sentiment, actually. A common opinion is that holding Israel to a double standard while not demanding the same from other countries (particularly the Arabs) is anti-Semitism. I think this idea has merit, but it gets murky, and can be used to try to whitewash Israel's actions. But merely criticizing Israeli policies is not anti-Semitism. If it were, then the entire Israeli left are anti-Semites.

Thanks for the explanation re: leftism and liberalism. I think I probably agree.

As for this above bit, I totally disagree. That's basically the only tactic of the entire (powerful) "Jewish Lobby"*; if you disagree with us, you're an anti-semite. Doesn't work in Israel, of course, because accusing Jews of anti-semitism is lunacy in a country full of them, but it works well in the West. Who wants to be called a Nazi? So you censor your even-handed documentary on Ariel Sharon or you vote to send over some more illegal cluster munitions, but you forget about it because if you had believed you had been forced by a powerful Israeli-funded lobby to send illegal cluster munitions to Israel, you'd be an anti-semite, wouldn't you?

As for the double-standard thing: I've yet to see it. AIJAC et al often accuse Israeli critics of anti-semitism on the grounds that it is unfair to criticise Israel at all, since it is not The Worst Country In The World. Ignoring the obvious point that they criticise a bunch of countries- not all of them can be The Worst Country In The World after all- this is an invalid ad hominem attack anyway. You don't have to be The Worst Country to do something wrong. Is it right to blockade Gaza or wrong? This should be argued on the merits. Just because AIPAC says everyone who disagrees must be an anti-semite does not make it right.

Now, why is Israel in particular a big issue in the left? Who cares? Are they right or wrong? That's all that matters. I think they're mostly right.

* I think a better term is Likud Lobby, firstly because they don't represent most Jews, secondly because they don't represent the interests of Israel and thirdly because they do insist everyone march in lock-step with Netanyahu et al, or you're an anti-semite. Even if you're Jewish, you're an anti-semite if you disagree with Netanyahu, AIPAC or the AIJAC.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on December 18, 2013, 12:03:46 am
I have seen Jews be called no true jew for being anti Israel
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lt. Fred on December 18, 2013, 12:41:53 am
I have seen Jews be called no true jew for being anti Israel

Or not even anti-Israeli, just critical of Zionism or the actions of the IDF. That's enough to prove a Jew is actually a self-hater, to be critical of Ariel Sharon.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Meshakhad on December 18, 2013, 06:59:31 am
I guess I haven't run into that type on the Internet. And in RL, my yarmulke makes a pretty effective shield against accusations of anti-Semitism. But for the record, I do dislike Netanyahu. I would prefer to see Tzipi Livni in power (or for Ariel Sharon to recover from his coma). And I do support a two-state solution. For that matter, I don't think a one-state solution is an option at all. The only one that would be remotely feasible would be Israel annexing the West Bank and Gaza (or just ignoring Gaza) and evicting the Palestinians, which would be ethnic cleansing.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lt. Fred on December 18, 2013, 08:13:46 am
I actually, to a certain degree, understand Israeli politicians' conundrum. The Palestinians aren't negotiating a compromise position- they're demanding their absolute rights, recognised under international law. That means that the Israelis are going to be giving up a lot- chiefly land, forcing Israelis to leave, ect- in return for nothing they don't already have. That's without a military defeat, mind; they're giving it up in the interests of international peace and long-term stability, not any hard short-term objective fact. They're basically forcing a million people out of their homes for charity. A pretty unappealing prospect electorally! Particularly when they're armed political extremists that make up your base (if you're Bibi or Sharon).

Also, I disagree about Sharon. I don't know much about his domestic policy, but I do have a good idea of his military record; it sucks. Total blowhard, Patton-lite, with a side of mass-murder.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Thejebusfire on December 18, 2013, 06:19:59 pm
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Meshakhad on December 18, 2013, 10:31:43 pm
Also, I disagree about Sharon. I don't know much about his domestic policy, but I do have a good idea of his military record; it sucks. Total blowhard, Patton-lite, with a side of mass-murder.

He's also the guy who broke with his own party to enact the Gaza pullout, which some predicted could lead to civil war.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: lord gibbon on December 18, 2013, 10:55:06 pm
Ariel Sharon had a dreadful military career, but his career as leader was much greater. I think Israel has really gone downhill since they lost him.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Meshakhad on December 18, 2013, 11:31:56 pm
Ariel Sharon had a dreadful military career, but his career as leader was much greater. I think Israel has really gone downhill since they lost him.

Agreed. One of the better things for Israeli politics would be for him to recover from his coma.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lt. Fred on December 18, 2013, 11:44:20 pm
Also, I disagree about Sharon. I don't know much about his domestic policy, but I do have a good idea of his military record; it sucks. Total blowhard, Patton-lite, with a side of mass-murder.

He's also the guy who broke with his own party to enact the Gaza pullout, which some predicted could lead to civil war.

I'll give you Gaza withdrawal. Good decision.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: SpaceProg on December 21, 2013, 12:17:09 am
Ariel Sharon had a dreadful military career, but his career as leader was much greater. I think Israel has really gone downhill since they lost him.

Agreed. One of the better things for Israeli politics would be for him to recover from his coma.

Unfortunately, comas aren't often like the kind you see in movies where people just 'wake up' and are pretty much fine.  Mostly, the longer the coma, the harder it is to come back to 'yourself'.  If ever. :-/
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Meshakhad on December 21, 2013, 12:37:45 am
Ariel Sharon had a dreadful military career, but his career as leader was much greater. I think Israel has really gone downhill since they lost him.

Agreed. One of the better things for Israeli politics would be for him to recover from his coma.

Unfortunately, comas aren't often like the kind you see in movies where people just 'wake up' and are pretty much fine.  Mostly, the longer the coma, the harder it is to come back to 'yourself'.  If ever. :-/

True. As far as Israeli politics is concerned, he's dead. It's just that there's still an outside chance - and I do imagine that the major parties have drawn up plans in case he does come back. Mind you, if he did, and he did try to return to politics, I think he'd squash Netanyahu and anyone else like a bug.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: mellenORL on December 21, 2013, 12:58:12 pm
Sharon scores 6 on the Glasgow scale. 3 is totally brain dead. 15 is conscious and not brain damaged. He has been classified as in permanent vegetative state; his brain stem shows up as intact on MRI, hence his ability to respond to physical pain stimuli, aural and visual stimuli, and that his major organ systems still function, that he opens his eyes now and then, but the rest of the scan shows the rest of the brain beyond the stem is liquefied. He's gone. He's not really in a coma anymore, his brain stem just cannot perform any higher functions than what's described above. He probably has sleep/wake cycles, too.

Sorry to spell it out, but I had to learn this stuff when my mom was dying of post-op complications. She scored a 5 on Glasgow before they could let me authorize her removal from support, as per her wishes in designating to me POA to enforce her living will.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: SpaceProg on December 21, 2013, 01:30:27 pm
I'm sorry you had to go through that, Mellen.  Nobody should have to, really. 

I agree with what you say about the coma scale though.  There's a time when the person is gone and the body is all that's left, whether it's 'alive' or not.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: mellenORL on December 21, 2013, 02:29:56 pm
Thanks Prog/Doctor. Really she wanted to not be kept alive if she had any major impairment, as she was already debilitated from years of COPD. But the law here, at least as the Adventist hospital she was at was interpreted, meant they would not withdraw support until she was beyond the beyond. It was eerie to see her at times; eyes open, but nobody home behind them. She could respond to simple, forcefully loud commands from nurses, such as, "Cough!" when they changed her tube out, would continue to do leg pedaling motions for many minutes after her PT left the room from doing muscle tone therapy sessions with her. It took nearly a month of steady decline from a 9 on the Glasgow to the five where they would follow my demand to withdraw support.

The brain stem plus a little bit more intact structure can give people hope where there should be none. The stem is nearly identical to a reptiles entire brain, hence the patient's ability to "recognize" family member's voices and faces, as a pet lizard can do just as well, imprinted with it's owner's voice and appearance. The intelligent person that the formally intact brain once contained is long gone, though.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: largeham on December 22, 2013, 07:09:10 am
Ariel Sharon had a dreadful military career, but his career as leader was much greater. I think Israel has really gone downhill since they lost him.

It's not like it could have gone much lower anyway. Also, are people forgetting the Sabra and Shatila massacre? Sharon is a war criminal.

And I don't think he would beat Netanyahu, Israeli society seems to be moving really far to the right. For example, look at the riots against African migrants last year.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Thejebusfire on December 28, 2013, 01:04:33 am
(http://www.transadvocate.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/transphobia_mistake.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on December 28, 2013, 08:48:02 am
(http://www.transadvocate.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/transphobia_mistake.jpg)

*dies laughing*
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: KZN02 on December 28, 2013, 07:17:51 pm
(https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/7975302912/h59D055D1/)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on January 07, 2014, 02:51:41 pm
(http://sidewalkbubblegum.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/sidewalk_bubblegum_027.gif)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: The Illusive Man on January 07, 2014, 03:28:18 pm
(http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/4904/jm9u.png)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on January 07, 2014, 03:30:54 pm
(http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/4904/jm9u.png)
As if the other news stations are any better.  I think it says something about the state of journalism that just about everybody, whether they be rich or poor, urban or rural, religious or atheistic, liberal or conservative, hates the news media.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on January 07, 2014, 03:38:18 pm
Actually, the other news stations are better by many, many miles.

The fact that those news stations still can't be considered "good" says a lot about just how horrendous Fox News is.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Dakota Bob on January 07, 2014, 05:32:16 pm
...Did Megyn Kelly pose for more photos like that?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: R. U. Sirius on January 07, 2014, 05:42:03 pm
It looks shopped to me. The proportions just seem all wrong. That might just be from her bending over to showcase her cleavage, though.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: largeham on January 07, 2014, 09:16:31 pm
Is it just me or is her head way too big, in that picture.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: R. U. Sirius on January 07, 2014, 09:37:03 pm
Is it just me or is her head way too big, in that picture.

It's not just you who thinks that. *points to his previous post*
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Id82 on January 08, 2014, 11:13:24 am
Everything about that photo is photoshopped.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on January 08, 2014, 07:42:52 pm
Everything about that photo is photoshopped.
Yup.  Models are virtually always photoshopped.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on January 09, 2014, 05:53:37 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/TtGhh.jpg)

Personally, I think racial pride of any kind is dumb, but I don't think people should be demonized just for having pride in their ethnicity.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Katsuro on January 09, 2014, 06:11:09 pm
Thing is though whites don't need a white pride movement as they've not been an opressed minority.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on January 09, 2014, 06:12:26 pm
Thing is though whites don't need a white pride movement as they've not been an opressed minority.
I'm sure there are some Zimbabweans who would disagree with you.

And while they may not need one, I don't think we should automatically assume that "white pride" people are racist.  Then again, maybe that's just the egalitarian in me talking.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on January 09, 2014, 06:15:39 pm
in Zimbabwe that was an overreaction to colonialism
2nd. pride in being white is tainted and frankly should stay that way (look the whole we're white and proud movements always end up awfuly.  Also at least in AMERICA if you are feeling sad for being white well your problems would be 10xworse if you were black
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Sigmaleph on January 09, 2014, 09:18:17 pm
Thing is though whites don't need a white pride movement as they've not been an opressed minority.
I'm sure there are some Zimbabweans who would disagree with you.

And while they may not need one, I don't think we should automatically assume that "white pride" people are racist.  Then again, maybe that's just the egalitarian in me talking.

I'd wager that the person who wrote that comic was not, in fact, from Zimbabwe. Indeed, I'd even go as far as say they are most likely from a white-majority country, with decent odds on the US. "White pride", specifically in the United States and I suspect also in other white-majority countries, is mostly a slogan used by white supremacists, neo-nazis, and their ilk. Them, and people who think they are terribly clever by ignoring the historical context of the terms "black pride" and "white pride" and treating them as if in a cultural vacuum.

It's not a stretch to infer that a person repeating a phrase used disproportionately by racists is also racist.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Random Gal on January 09, 2014, 09:30:46 pm
There's a difference between pride in one's own ethnicity (i.e., "Irish Pride"), which is fine as long as it doesn't degenerate into mindless nationalism, and pride in being White, which is actually a euphemism for white supremacy and has always been used by neo-Nazis and racist groups.

(Before someone brings it up, yes, "Black Pride" is different because unlike most White people in the United States, Black Americans who are descendants of slaves sadly cannot trace their ancestry the same way. "Black Pride" is generally also used as an expression against the racist idea that Black people should be ashamed of being Black, whereas White people face no such prejudice in America.)

THIS.

Seriously, there are pride festivals for several European ethnicities (St. Patrick's Day, Highland Games, Oktoberfest) that are widely celebrated and not controversial at all. The "White Pride is not racist" argument fails because there is no Grand Unified White Culture to celebrate.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on January 09, 2014, 09:34:37 pm
Exactly what Random said.

Not to mention you can't just derail the discussion by mentioning a different country when it's fairly obvious we're going by Western standards.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on January 09, 2014, 11:03:05 pm
Especially since whites in Africa were invaders
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on January 10, 2014, 12:24:22 am
Okay, you have your opinions, I have mine.  I don't think it's worth getting into a shouting match over, so let's change the subject.

(http://media.cagle.com/89/2014/01/08/142842_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on January 16, 2014, 04:04:05 am
(http://l3.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/oyk4qK49RQ9w2UeWFYvC5g--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7Zmk9ZmlsbDtoPTM2MjtweW9mZj0wO3E9NzU7dz01MDA-/http://media.zenfs.com/en_us/News/ucomics.com/bor140102.gif)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on January 16, 2014, 09:27:41 am
(http://l3.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/oyk4qK49RQ9w2UeWFYvC5g--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7Zmk9ZmlsbDtoPTM2MjtweW9mZj0wO3E9NzU7dz01MDA-/http://media.zenfs.com/en_us/News/ucomics.com/bor140102.gif)
Yeah, we really oughta try to avoid bombing innocent people.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RavynousHunter on January 16, 2014, 09:40:58 am
Bombing civilians does many things for PR, none of 'em good.

Well, that and the whole immorality thing.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on January 16, 2014, 10:34:22 am
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_dGun5wsqlQ4/TEdk7or5P_I/AAAAAAAADqI/WlQIucPC6z8/s640/%7B3ccb44ac-0bb9-44e7-9fde-53f0c43bc928%7D.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: booley on January 16, 2014, 11:32:09 am
(http://l3.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/oyk4qK49RQ9w2UeWFYvC5g--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7Zmk9ZmlsbDtoPTM2MjtweW9mZj0wO3E9NzU7dz01MDA-/http://media.zenfs.com/en_us/News/ucomics.com/bor140102.gif)
Yeah, we really oughta try to avoid bombing innocent people.

Of course we may also have to concede that NOT bombing innocent people may not be possible if you still want to bomb people at all.

I mean it seems that killing innocents is a systemic flaw in war in general.  Anything that makes war easier just exacerbates that flaw.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: booley on January 16, 2014, 11:49:32 am
(http://i.imgur.com/TtGhh.jpg)

Personally, I think racial pride of any kind is dumb, but I don't think people should be demonized just for having pride in their ethnicity.

Ehhh here's the thing and I think it's not really talked about but..

for hundreds of years it was not considered a good thing to be black or brown or asian.  O gray or a women or  anon-christian.

And these "pride" things are really about undoing all that damage. 

No you are not stupid because you're black.
You're not lazy for being latino. 
No, being gay does not make you a pervert.
Ect ect.

White people really have not had that.  White was and to a large part still is the "norm". It's good to be white.  Your life is so much easier if you're white and male and hetero.

I really didn't' appreciate that until I came out as gay.  I have faced discrimination.  I have had to deal with bigots.  But I can count the problems I have had because I am a white guy who acts straight on one hand… and still have fingers left over.

AND I as a white guy I would hazard to say that most white people don't' think of themselves as "white" EXCEPT in relation to people who are not white.

I mean we have lots of people going on about how proud they are begin Irish and Italian and German.  Those guys are generally pretty caucasian.  But that's just how most white people seem to view their own ethnicity

Now I guess we can also say the same for latinos and Asians.  Puerto Ricans don' like being called Mexican; a lot of latinos in florida get really annoyed at being assumed to be Cuban;  Koreans really do not appreciate being labeled "chinese" or worse Japanese.

But in that case we still have that whole "it's bad to be latino or asian" thing that used to be acceptable in this country.

Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on January 16, 2014, 02:33:46 pm
Like I said, I think white pride is dumb.  However, I don't think we should demonize those who believe in it, not unless they think they're better than everyone else.

Anyway:

(http://i.imgur.com/I9N5xzb.gif) (http://imgur.com/I9N5xzb)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Canadian Mojo on January 16, 2014, 05:39:44 pm
Like I said, I think white pride is dumb.  However, I don't think we should demonize those who believe in it, not unless they think they're better than everyone else.

You show me a few instances of 'white pride' that aren't just spouting off about how the entire white race is better than any other color, and maybe I'll be inclined to not demonize them.

And I think you put this in the wrong thread because while W's detractors were largely civil in their disagreement with his policies there has been nowhere near that level of civility in discussing Obama's policies
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Anyway:

(http://i.imgur.com/I9N5xzb.gif) (http://imgur.com/I9N5xzb)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on January 16, 2014, 05:56:52 pm
Very few of Bush's detractors were actually anti-american.

On the other hand, many of Obama's detractors have used racist imagery, humor, and mentality to criticize Obama.

If it looks like a racist, sounds like a racist, smells like a racist, it probably is a racist.

But that's "politically correct" to call people on their shit.  The right's favorite meaningless catchphrase next to "socialism" and "communism".
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on January 17, 2014, 12:57:58 am
(http://media.cagle.com/139/2014/01/15/143097_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on January 17, 2014, 07:40:02 am
There's a difference between white pride and ethnic pride. A lot of people seem to miss it.

Along with that, a lot of people like to say 'nobody who is white has ever faced discrimination'. This is false on many levels: 1) You're erasing the LGBTQ white people and 2) You're erasing the fact that the Irish and sometimes the Italians are still discriminated against. And the fact that they were badly discriminated against back in the 19th and early 20th centuries. Hell, it was even considered oppression at the time (that icky word people like to over-define). 3) You're also ignoring the disabled white folks. Being white doesn't protect you from everyfuckingthing.

So, yeah. People need to learn the differences. Small, but important differences.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: booley on January 17, 2014, 05:49:11 pm
There's a difference between white pride and ethnic pride. A lot of people seem to miss it.

Along with that, a lot of people like to say 'nobody who is white has ever faced discrimination'. This is false on many levels: 1) You're erasing the LGBTQ white people and 2) You're erasing the fact that the Irish and sometimes the Italians are still discriminated against. And the fact that they were badly discriminated against back in the 19th and early 20th centuries. Hell, it was even considered oppression at the time (that icky word people like to over-define). 3) You're also ignoring the disabled white folks. Being white doesn't protect you from everyfuckingthing.

So, yeah. People need to learn the differences. Small, but important differences.

I think's it more accurate to say no one was discriminated against BECAUSE they were white.

White LGBT folk were still LGBT

The Irish were Catholics in a largely Protestant nation.

Now , yes begin white doesn't' protect you necessarily if you are also ins one other group with less privilege.

But try being black and gay.  Or  an Arab Muslim.

Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Auri-El on January 17, 2014, 06:04:09 pm
Isn't the U.S. more Catholic than Protestant? The Irish here were discriminated against because they were Irish. And what about like the Romani, who are white and are treated pretty badly in a lot of places in Europe? It's not as simple as what shade one's skin color is.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on January 17, 2014, 07:24:06 pm
Actually a lot of roma are dark skinned being from India ironically making them Aryan
and no prior to the 60s the mentality was that Catholics shouldn't hold office since they would kiss up to the pope
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Sigmaleph on January 17, 2014, 07:54:24 pm
There's a difference between white pride and ethnic pride. A lot of people seem to miss it.

Along with that, a lot of people like to say 'nobody who is white has ever faced discrimination'. This is false on many levels: 1) You're erasing the LGBTQ white people and 2) You're erasing the fact that the Irish and sometimes the Italians are still discriminated against. And the fact that they were badly discriminated against back in the 19th and early 20th centuries. Hell, it was even considered oppression at the time (that icky word people like to over-define). 3) You're also ignoring the disabled white folks. Being white doesn't protect you from everyfuckingthing.

So, yeah. People need to learn the differences. Small, but important differences.

I think's it more accurate to say no one was discriminated against BECAUSE they were white.

It would be even more accurate to say that white people do not experience institutional racism in the United States (or whichever other white-majority country you prefer).
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: largeham on January 18, 2014, 03:10:13 am
Not now at least. Some white groups (as pointed out the Italians and Irish to name a couple) did face institutional racism when they arrived. However it hasn't really been a problem for decades now.

Edit: It would also heavily depend on context and geography. An Irish person here in Australia carrying an Irish flag would usually be and considered to be a relatively harmless gesture, the Irish don't face much discrimination org bigotry now, hey, whatever. Doing that in Dublin would be a bit worse.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on January 18, 2014, 10:15:03 am
(http://0.tqn.com/d/politicalhumor/1/7/W/Y/3/Tea-Party-Racism.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on January 18, 2014, 10:18:39 am
There's a difference between white pride and ethnic pride. A lot of people seem to miss it.

Along with that, a lot of people like to say 'nobody who is white has ever faced discrimination'. This is false on many levels: 1) You're erasing the LGBTQ white people and 2) You're erasing the fact that the Irish and sometimes the Italians are still discriminated against. And the fact that they were badly discriminated against back in the 19th and early 20th centuries. Hell, it was even considered oppression at the time (that icky word people like to over-define). 3) You're also ignoring the disabled white folks. Being white doesn't protect you from everyfuckingthing.

So, yeah. People need to learn the differences. Small, but important differences.

I think's it more accurate to say no one was discriminated against BECAUSE they were white.

It would be even more accurate to say that white people do not experience institutional racism in the United States (or whichever other white-majority country you prefer).

Basically. White people have experienced discrimination for being white, but not institutionally.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on January 18, 2014, 06:19:44 pm
(http://0.tqn.com/d/politicalhumor/1/7/W/Y/3/Tea-Party-Racism.jpg)
Its a bit more then a fringe like take the number of birthers  in 2011 
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on January 18, 2014, 06:22:08 pm
Chester Arthur was accused of being Canadian.  And if I remember correctly, there was controversy because John McCain was born in the Panama Canal zone.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Canadian Mojo on January 18, 2014, 06:40:43 pm
And if I remember correctly, there was controversy because John McCain was born in the Panama Canal zone.
Yeah, about that, YOU'RE NOT REMEMBERING CORRECTLY!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on January 18, 2014, 06:57:28 pm
Yeah also the truthfully I'll make a thread about it later but white americans have some messed up views on race
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: ironbite on January 18, 2014, 07:09:20 pm
Chester Arthur was accused of being Canadian.  And if I remember correctly, there was controversy because John McCain was born in the Panama Canal zone.

Yes there was controversy...for about 2 nanoseconds before people decided they didn't care.  Obama was born in Hawaii, about 2 years or so after the state was made a part of the Union.  People swear up and down he's not an American citizen despite his mother being one.

Ironbite-you really need to remember things correctly
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: The Right Honourable Mlle Antéchrist on January 18, 2014, 07:19:43 pm
Controversy over McCain? More like the odd comment here or there, with mostly silence from the Tea Party. The only "controversy" I saw was the left wing pointing out the hypocrisy involved. Also note the lack of whinging about Ted Cruz being born in Canada. And Chester A. Arthur's presidency took place in the 19th century, when social dynamics were vastly different (mainly that Canada was still a British dominion at the time, and Americans weren't exactly on the best terms with the English throne), so it doesn't really apply to a modern scenario.

By comparison, look at the widespread "Birther" movement, which gained so much ground that the White House was actually forced to release Obama's birth certificate (and that still didn't shut the birthers up). Not to mention the heavily racial language used by a lot of Birthers...
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on January 18, 2014, 07:25:37 pm
All I'm saying is that this kind of stupidity is hardly unique to Obama.  I doubt this shit would have been so bad if he were white, but it's hardly unique to racial minorities.

Oh, and you're repeating the same old song about the Tea Party being made up entirely of racist, ignorant dominionists.  Kind of like how certain right wingers claim the entirety of Occupy Wall Street is made up of lazy bums who need to get jobs.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: The Right Honourable Mlle Antéchrist on January 18, 2014, 07:49:48 pm
Please show me where I claimed that the entire Tea Party -- or even all birthers -- are racists and dominionists. All I did was point out that race is almost certainly a factor in the Obama birther movement gaining so much ground. I never even mentioned religion.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on January 18, 2014, 07:52:31 pm
Please show me where I claimed that the entire Tea Party -- or even all birthers -- are racists. All I did was point out that race is almost certainly a factor in the Obama birther movement gaining so much ground.
I agree with that, and I'm sorry if I put words in your mouth.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: I am lizard on January 19, 2014, 12:01:16 am
There's a difference between white pride and ethnic pride. A lot of people seem to miss it.

Along with that, a lot of people like to say 'nobody who is white has ever faced discrimination'. This is false on many levels: 1) You're erasing the LGBTQ white people and 2) You're erasing the fact that the Irish and sometimes the Italians are still discriminated against. And the fact that they were badly discriminated against back in the 19th and early 20th centuries. Hell, it was even considered oppression at the time (that icky word people like to over-define). 3) You're also ignoring the disabled white folks. Being white doesn't protect you from everyfuckingthing.

So, yeah. People need to learn the differences. Small, but important differences.
And the poor.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on January 19, 2014, 01:09:05 am
Classism is a slightly different issue than what I was talking about, but ye.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lt. Fred on January 19, 2014, 01:38:03 am
There's a difference between white pride and ethnic pride. A lot of people seem to miss it.

Along with that, a lot of people like to say 'nobody who is white has ever faced discrimination'. This is false on many levels: 1) You're erasing the LGBTQ white people and 2) You're erasing the fact that the Irish and sometimes the Italians are still discriminated against. And the fact that they were badly discriminated against back in the 19th and early 20th centuries. Hell, it was even considered oppression at the time (that icky word people like to over-define). 3) You're also ignoring the disabled white folks. Being white doesn't protect you from everyfuckingthing.

So, yeah. People need to learn the differences. Small, but important differences.

No white person has ever faced systematic discrimination for that reason in the United States. Not one. White people may face persecution for other reasons; they are not victims of racism. Period.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lt. Fred on January 19, 2014, 01:45:22 am
There's a difference between pride in one's own ethnicity (i.e., "Irish Pride"), which is fine as long as it doesn't degenerate into mindless nationalism, and pride in being White, which is actually a euphemism for white supremacy and has always been used by neo-Nazis and racist groups.

(Before someone brings it up, yes, "Black Pride" is different because unlike most White people in the United States, Black Americans who are descendants of slaves sadly cannot trace their ancestry the same way. "Black Pride" is generally also used as an expression against the racist idea that Black people should be ashamed of being Black, whereas White people face no such prejudice in America.)

THIS.

Seriously, there are pride festivals for several European ethnicities (St. Patrick's Day, Highland Games, Oktoberfest) that are widely celebrated and not controversial at all. The "White Pride is not racist" argument fails because there is no Grand Unified White Culture to celebrate.

White means normal. It's exclusive: you have to not have characteristics to be white. That's why white pride is racist- you're proud of not being outside the "norm", of being Asian, ect.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on January 19, 2014, 07:03:49 am
There's a difference between white pride and ethnic pride. A lot of people seem to miss it.

Along with that, a lot of people like to say 'nobody who is white has ever faced discrimination'. This is false on many levels: 1) You're erasing the LGBTQ white people and 2) You're erasing the fact that the Irish and sometimes the Italians are still discriminated against. And the fact that they were badly discriminated against back in the 19th and early 20th centuries. Hell, it was even considered oppression at the time (that icky word people like to over-define). 3) You're also ignoring the disabled white folks. Being white doesn't protect you from everyfuckingthing.

So, yeah. People need to learn the differences. Small, but important differences.

No white person has ever faced systematic discrimination for that reason in the United States. Not one. White people may face persecution for other reasons; they are not victims of racism. Period.

You'll note I never once said it was either systematic or institutionalized. Nor did I say racism. I said prejudice/discrimination for a reason. It doesn't have to be systematic or institutionalized to count under the discrimination banner. Just being turned away from multiple places for being Italian is enough to be discrimination.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on January 19, 2014, 11:32:46 am
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mcvkxlaQMt1qbcevqo1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lt. Fred on January 19, 2014, 05:07:05 pm
There's a difference between white pride and ethnic pride. A lot of people seem to miss it.

Along with that, a lot of people like to say 'nobody who is white has ever faced discrimination'. This is false on many levels: 1) You're erasing the LGBTQ white people and 2) You're erasing the fact that the Irish and sometimes the Italians are still discriminated against. And the fact that they were badly discriminated against back in the 19th and early 20th centuries. Hell, it was even considered oppression at the time (that icky word people like to over-define). 3) You're also ignoring the disabled white folks. Being white doesn't protect you from everyfuckingthing.

So, yeah. People need to learn the differences. Small, but important differences.

No white person has ever faced systematic discrimination for that reason in the United States. Not one. White people may face persecution for other reasons; they are not victims of racism. Period.

You'll note I never once said it was either systematic or institutionalized. Nor did I say racism. I said prejudice/discrimination for a reason. It doesn't have to be systematic or institutionalized to count under the discrimination banner. Just being turned away from multiple places for being Italian is enough to be discrimination.

Though, of course, not for being white.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: LeTipex on January 19, 2014, 07:49:54 pm
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mcvkxlaQMt1qbcevqo1_500.jpg)
That's...  nice, but alas, pretty naive.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: largeham on January 19, 2014, 09:27:14 pm
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mcvkxlaQMt1qbcevqo1_500.jpg)

Yes, if we all just be nice and just learn to love a bit more, everything will be alright.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on January 19, 2014, 09:32:57 pm
I'm not naïve enough to think it's a short or easy process.  However, this does have a lot of basis in reality.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Sigmaleph on January 19, 2014, 10:44:58 pm
Would you care to expand on that?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: SpaceProg on January 19, 2014, 11:22:18 pm
I think it's more of a long-term thing.  Planting a seed and if it grows, maybe years and years from now so will the ideals put forth.  I imagine the comic taking place over at least a few decades, if not hundreds of years.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on January 20, 2014, 04:54:30 am
There's a difference between white pride and ethnic pride. A lot of people seem to miss it.

Along with that, a lot of people like to say 'nobody who is white has ever faced discrimination'. This is false on many levels: 1) You're erasing the LGBTQ white people and 2) You're erasing the fact that the Irish and sometimes the Italians are still discriminated against. And the fact that they were badly discriminated against back in the 19th and early 20th centuries. Hell, it was even considered oppression at the time (that icky word people like to over-define). 3) You're also ignoring the disabled white folks. Being white doesn't protect you from everyfuckingthing.

So, yeah. People need to learn the differences. Small, but important differences.

No white person has ever faced systematic discrimination for that reason in the United States. Not one. White people may face persecution for other reasons; they are not victims of racism. Period.

You'll note I never once said it was either systematic or institutionalized. Nor did I say racism. I said prejudice/discrimination for a reason. It doesn't have to be systematic or institutionalized to count under the discrimination banner. Just being turned away from multiple places for being Italian is enough to be discrimination.

Though, of course, not for being white.

At this point you're just saying superfluous things.

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mcvkxlaQMt1qbcevqo1_500.jpg)

Ah yes the ol' 'if you're just nice to the people who are oppressing you then soon enough he will change his ways and you will no longer be oppressed!' thing.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on January 20, 2014, 05:26:43 am
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mcvkxlaQMt1qbcevqo1_500.jpg)

Ah yes the ol' 'if you're just nice to the people who are oppressing you then soon enough he will change his ways and you will no longer be oppressed!' thing.

Alternatively: If two groups have a disagreement the one that merely shouts and acts agressively at the other is not likely to convert anyone to their cause, while the group that acts calm and extends the olive branch just might. Even if it is slow, even if only few people learn to respect the other group or join the other side of view it is still progress.

I mean that comic might be about opression but it might as well be about wether or not you put the cheese or cucumber on the top of sandwich. If group A only shouts about how their view is the only TRUE view it is unlikely to convert the other side. (Though judging from the fact that the other side starts with being in the minority the comic might be particularly about opression. Otherwise it could have started with two similarly sized groups. Or maybe that would have required too much drawing.)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on January 20, 2014, 10:23:20 am
(http://www.hereville.com/wp-content/uploads/least_I_could_do_deutsch.png)
For added win, this is an edit of Least I Could Do, one of the most misogynistic webcomics I've ever seen.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on January 20, 2014, 10:58:18 am
For another good one by Barry Deutsch...

(http://leftycartoons.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/debt.png)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on January 20, 2014, 01:06:41 pm
(http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/224/516/tumblr_lwsydvEtgG1r7rxb8o1_1280.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: R. U. Sirius on January 20, 2014, 02:55:31 pm
It COULD be trying to push the message that guys are better artists than girls.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on January 20, 2014, 03:26:17 pm
It's neither.  It's against soulless music that's more manufactured than created.  Notice the "too many cooks spoil the broth" message.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cloud3514 on January 20, 2014, 03:45:07 pm
It's neither.  It's against soulless music that's more manufactured than created.  Notice the "too many cooks spoil the broth" message.

Yeah, I think you're giving it too much credit. Its a popular belief that modern music is only lazy manufactured pop, while old music is better. Notice that every time one of these images pops up, its taking a modern pop song and comparing it to, usually, classic rock. Even then, I doubt its entirely accurate to say that Bohemian Rhapsody only had "one writer, one producer" because, while Mercury holds the writing credit, it can probably be assumed that, due to Queen being a band, the rest of the band had input into the song.

It is a valid criticism to say that pop music is often manufactured garbage, but this is a comparison of false equivalency.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on January 20, 2014, 03:46:53 pm
Yeah, I think you're giving it too much credit. Its a popular belief that modern music is only lazy manufactured pop, while old music is better. Notice that every time one of these images pops up, its taking a modern pop song and comparing it to, usually, classic rock.

It is a valid criticism to say that pop music is often manufactured garbage, but this is a comparison of false equivalency.
I'm with you on that, to a point.  However, it's been scientifically shown that music is getting more and more similar.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cloud3514 on January 20, 2014, 03:48:55 pm
Yeah, I think you're giving it too much credit. Its a popular belief that modern music is only lazy manufactured pop, while old music is better. Notice that every time one of these images pops up, its taking a modern pop song and comparing it to, usually, classic rock.

It is a valid criticism to say that pop music is often manufactured garbage, but this is a comparison of false equivalency.
I'm with you on that, to a point.  However, it's been scientifically shown that music is getting more and more similar.

Yeah, do you have a citation for that? Or are you just spouting off more uneducated criticisms of pop music that ignores that there is more to music than pop music?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on January 20, 2014, 03:52:26 pm
I did some looking, and it turns out you were half right.  I was misremembering the article in question, thinking it was about music in general, rather than pop music specifically.  But it does back up my claims:

http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/2012/07/27/pop_music_is_getting_louder_and_dumber_says_one_study_here_s_what_they_miss_.html
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cloud3514 on January 20, 2014, 04:00:15 pm
No, it really doesn't. Historically speaking, pop music has always been lazy, recycled and manufactured.  Modern pop music being slightly less creative than old pop music doesn't really mean anything as manufactured pop being uncreative is nothing new and means nothing. Do you know why we tend to not remember pop music from the 50s and 60s? Because people stopped caring about it when it stopped being relevant. The same thing will happen to modern pop music. Its a repeating cycle that just shows that pop music will only be remembered as long as its relevant.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on January 20, 2014, 04:00:53 pm
No, it really doesn't. Historically speaking, pop music has always been lazy, recycled and manufactured.  Modern pop music being slightly less creative than old pop music doesn't really mean anything as manufactured pop being uncreative is nothing new and means nothing. Do you know why we tend to not remember pop music from the 50s and 60s? Because people stopped caring about it when it stopped being relevant. The same thing will happen to modern pop music. Its a repeating cycle that just shows that pop music will only be remembered as long as its relevant.
Oh, I didn't know that.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: mellenORL on January 20, 2014, 04:07:42 pm
(http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/224/516/tumblr_lwsydvEtgG1r7rxb8o1_1280.jpg)

I think the "message" is actually racist, as much as age-ist. And it is invalid to compare songs from disparate genres and eras.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on January 20, 2014, 04:09:48 pm
(http://patriotupdate.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/nuclear-panic-cartoon.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on January 20, 2014, 04:18:19 pm
(http://patriotupdate.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/nuclear-panic-cartoon.jpg)

Broken link, dude.
Well, I can see it just fine.  But I'll post an Imgur link.

(http://i.imgur.com/1f5wpDZ.jpg) (http://imgur.com/1f5wpDZ)

Better?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Canadian Mojo on January 20, 2014, 04:30:17 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/1f5wpDZ.jpg) (http://imgur.com/1f5wpDZ)

The bus.

Everybody hates the motherfucking things.


In all seriousness nuclear power doesn't produce H2O; internal combustion engines do.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: MadCatTLX on January 20, 2014, 04:47:16 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/1f5wpDZ.jpg) (http://imgur.com/1f5wpDZ)

The bus.

Everybody hates the motherfucking things.


In all seriousness nuclear power doesn't produce H2O; internal combustion engines do.
54

I don't know, have you tried going on an airplane recently? Freaking security checks and such, and to top it off most airlines have recently decided to add one more seat to each row, meaning even less room.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on January 20, 2014, 04:55:15 pm
Yeah, public transport has gotten worse.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: mellenORL on January 20, 2014, 05:21:39 pm
Nuclear power plants vent excess H2O steam not needed for their steam turbine generators via those big cooling towers. The plutonium rod stacks that are lowered into the water pool that heats the separated steam power source water never stop putting out heat, so the excess system Cooling water steam, that goes out the Cooling towers, yeah.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Captain Jack Harkness on January 20, 2014, 05:34:48 pm
That cartoon is disingenuous.  I assume it's supposed to be pro nuclear.  Even if you argue that meltdowns are rare, you still have to deal with the issue of nuclear waste.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on January 20, 2014, 05:35:24 pm
The thing is many people are worried and seeing as Japan fucked it up that their power corps couldn't handle it
That too unless maybe you have a really good breeder reactor
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lt. Fred on January 20, 2014, 06:28:50 pm
There's a difference between white pride and ethnic pride. A lot of people seem to miss it.

Along with that, a lot of people like to say 'nobody who is white has ever faced discrimination'. This is false on many levels: 1) You're erasing the LGBTQ white people and 2) You're erasing the fact that the Irish and sometimes the Italians are still discriminated against. And the fact that they were badly discriminated against back in the 19th and early 20th centuries. Hell, it was even considered oppression at the time (that icky word people like to over-define). 3) You're also ignoring the disabled white folks. Being white doesn't protect you from everyfuckingthing.

So, yeah. People need to learn the differences. Small, but important differences.

No white person has ever faced systematic discrimination for that reason in the United States. Not one. White people may face persecution for other reasons; they are not victims of racism. Period.

You'll note I never once said it was either systematic or institutionalized. Nor did I say racism. I said prejudice/discrimination for a reason. It doesn't have to be systematic or institutionalized to count under the discrimination banner. Just being turned away from multiple places for being Italian is enough to be discrimination.

Though, of course, not for being white.

At this point you're just saying superfluous things.

/ hammering home the fundamental point. White people do not and have never faced racial discrimination in the US. People considered non-white (Irish, Italian, Finnish) certainly have, and some white people have faced discrimination for other reason, but not because they were white.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Katsuro on January 20, 2014, 06:34:35 pm
There's a difference between white pride and ethnic pride. A lot of people seem to miss it.

Along with that, a lot of people like to say 'nobody who is white has ever faced discrimination'. This is false on many levels: 1) You're erasing the LGBTQ white people and 2) You're erasing the fact that the Irish and sometimes the Italians are still discriminated against. And the fact that they were badly discriminated against back in the 19th and early 20th centuries. Hell, it was even considered oppression at the time (that icky word people like to over-define). 3) You're also ignoring the disabled white folks. Being white doesn't protect you from everyfuckingthing.

So, yeah. People need to learn the differences. Small, but important differences.

No white person has ever faced systematic discrimination for that reason in the United States. Not one. White people may face persecution for other reasons; they are not victims of racism. Period.

You'll note I never once said it was either systematic or institutionalized. Nor did I say racism. I said prejudice/discrimination for a reason. It doesn't have to be systematic or institutionalized to count under the discrimination banner. Just being turned away from multiple places for being Italian is enough to be discrimination.

Though, of course, not for being white.

At this point you're just saying superfluous things.

/ hammering home the fundamental point. White people do not and have never faced racial discrimination in the US. People considered non-white (Irish, Italian, Finnish) certainly have, and some white people have faced discrimination for other reason, but not because they were white.

Irish aren't considered white?  Weird when the only people with whiter skin are probably in Scotland and Scandanavia lol.

Also I'm pretty sure in the UK and Ireland the Irish are considerd white.  When filling in employment monitoring forms and the likes, there is no separate tick box for "Irish"  Unless you count things like "Irish Traveler".  And I've never heard anyone ever say anything to indicate they're not considered white by anybody here regardless of any discimination.

Being Irish myself the fact that I'm not thought of as white is news to me.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on January 20, 2014, 06:43:31 pm
In the 19th Century the Irish were considered racially distinct from Anglo-Saxons. They were also considered an inferior race. There were many psuedo-scientific books spouting off about their tendency for violence and alcholism and their inability to learn.

The problem in this thread is linguistic, that is white is being used to indicate Anglo-Saxon, when in fact White is much broader than simply Anglo-Saxon. It is similar to saying Asian (or even Chinese) when referring to the Han ethnic group.

Anyway I will let you crackers continue talking across each other.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Katsuro on January 20, 2014, 06:44:58 pm
In the 19th Century the Irish were considered racially distinct from Anglo-Saxons. They were also considered an inferiour race. There were many psuedo-scientific books spouting off about their tendency for violence and alcholism and their inability to learn.

The problem in this thread is linguistic, that is white is being used to indicate Anglo-Saxon, when in fact White is much broader than simply Anglo-Saxon. It is similar to saying Asian (or even Chinese) when referring to the Han ethnic group.

Anyway I will let you crackers continue talking across each other.

Ah in the 19th century, yes.  Sorry, there didn't seem to be anything in Fred's post to indicate that we were talking about the past and not the present.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on January 20, 2014, 06:48:55 pm
I assumed that Fred was talking about the entire history of the USA given that he said - no person ever in the history of the USA.

But then again you will have to ask Fred about that - I mean that cracker is an enigma, wrapped in a mystery, surrounded by (continuing I suspect) post modern undergratuate bachelor of arts studies with a major in political science...
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Katsuro on January 20, 2014, 06:52:30 pm
I assumed that Fred was talking about the entire history of the USA given that he said - no person ever in the history of the USA.

Ah, a fair point.  In my defense, the lack of a functioning heating system in my house makes it hard to concentrate lol.

Speaking of crackers; that squirrel looks like it's eating a cracker.  Is that some kind of statement you're making with that avatar  :P
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on January 20, 2014, 07:07:10 pm
What that crackers have to beware the incoming squirrel horde? No I just like pictures with crackers in them
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Katsuro on January 20, 2014, 07:10:17 pm
I was thinking more along the lines of general acts of unpleasantness towards crackers rather than squirrel specific ones.  Unless the squirrel is a metaphor as well.  Which it would be if the cracker is.

I don't even know wtf I'm talking about anymore lol.  Maybe hypothermia is setting in, maybe I'm dying lol.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on January 20, 2014, 07:12:51 pm
but eating isn't necessarily unpleasant. It might be a metaphor for the incorporation of crackers into us all...or I like pictures of salty biscuits.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Katsuro on January 20, 2014, 07:15:58 pm
but eating isn't necessarily unpleasant. It might be a metaphor for the incorporation of crackers into us all...or I like pictures of salty biscuits.

"Salty biscuits" sounds like a sexual thing lol.  Probably because it makes one think of something called "wank biscuit".  If you don't know what that is, do not google it, you probably don't want to know what it is.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on January 20, 2014, 07:18:25 pm
In Australia it is (or was I guess) known as 'Soggy Sao' - but I am pretty sure that subconsciously I was being sexual when I wrote salty biscuit.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lt. Fred on January 20, 2014, 07:19:38 pm
There's a difference between white pride and ethnic pride. A lot of people seem to miss it.

Along with that, a lot of people like to say 'nobody who is white has ever faced discrimination'. This is false on many levels: 1) You're erasing the LGBTQ white people and 2) You're erasing the fact that the Irish and sometimes the Italians are still discriminated against. And the fact that they were badly discriminated against back in the 19th and early 20th centuries. Hell, it was even considered oppression at the time (that icky word people like to over-define). 3) You're also ignoring the disabled white folks. Being white doesn't protect you from everyfuckingthing.

So, yeah. People need to learn the differences. Small, but important differences.

No white person has ever faced systematic discrimination for that reason in the United States. Not one. White people may face persecution for other reasons; they are not victims of racism. Period.

You'll note I never once said it was either systematic or institutionalized. Nor did I say racism. I said prejudice/discrimination for a reason. It doesn't have to be systematic or institutionalized to count under the discrimination banner. Just being turned away from multiple places for being Italian is enough to be discrimination.

Though, of course, not for being white.

At this point you're just saying superfluous things.

/ hammering home the fundamental point. White people do not and have never faced racial discrimination in the US. People considered non-white (Irish, Italian, Finnish) certainly have, and some white people have faced discrimination for other reason, but not because they were white.

Irish aren't considered white?  Weird when the only people with whiter skin are probably in Scotland and Scandanavia lol.

Also, too, Finnish. Neither were considered white until the early 20th century. The racial norm is just going to keep expanding until everyone except one person is considered racially normal, at which point everyone will realise how ludicrous and offensive it is to arbitrarily label people in the first fucking place. And then we'll be back where we were in 1300. Yay!

I assumed that Fred was talking about the entire history of the USA given that he said - no person ever in the history of the USA.

But then again you will have to ask Fred about that - I mean that cracker is an enigma, wrapped in a mystery, surrounded by (continuing I suspect) post modern undergratuate bachelor of arts studies with a major in political science...

HOW DID YOU KNOW.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on January 20, 2014, 10:32:16 pm
There's a difference between white pride and ethnic pride. A lot of people seem to miss it.

Along with that, a lot of people like to say 'nobody who is white has ever faced discrimination'. This is false on many levels: 1) You're erasing the LGBTQ white people and 2) You're erasing the fact that the Irish and sometimes the Italians are still discriminated against. And the fact that they were badly discriminated against back in the 19th and early 20th centuries. Hell, it was even considered oppression at the time (that icky word people like to over-define). 3) You're also ignoring the disabled white folks. Being white doesn't protect you from everyfuckingthing.

So, yeah. People need to learn the differences. Small, but important differences.

No white person has ever faced systematic discrimination for that reason in the United States. Not one. White people may face persecution for other reasons; they are not victims of racism. Period.

You'll note I never once said it was either systematic or institutionalized. Nor did I say racism. I said prejudice/discrimination for a reason. It doesn't have to be systematic or institutionalized to count under the discrimination banner. Just being turned away from multiple places for being Italian is enough to be discrimination.

Though, of course, not for being white.

At this point you're just saying superfluous things.

/ hammering home the fundamental point. White people do not and have never faced racial discrimination in the US. People considered non-white (Irish, Italian, Finnish) certainly have, and some white people have faced discrimination for other reason, but not because they were white.

It becomes superfluous when you're talking over me about something I was never saying in the first place. I never once said that they were discriminated against for being white I said they were white and discriminated against for being Italian/Irish/Whathaveyou. Everyone else seemed to get that except for you. The original argument was that nobody who is white has ever faced discrimination. That was it. There was no 'for being white' in that sentence and there never was.

So knock it off.

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mcvkxlaQMt1qbcevqo1_500.jpg)

Ah yes the ol' 'if you're just nice to the people who are oppressing you then soon enough he will change his ways and you will no longer be oppressed!' thing.

Alternatively: If two groups have a disagreement the one that merely shouts and acts agressively at the other is not likely to convert anyone to their cause, while the group that acts calm and extends the olive branch just might. Even if it is slow, even if only few people learn to respect the other group or join the other side of view it is still progress.

I mean that comic might be about opression but it might as well be about wether or not you put the cheese or cucumber on the top of sandwich. If group A only shouts about how their view is the only TRUE view it is unlikely to convert the other side. (Though judging from the fact that the other side starts with being in the minority the comic might be particularly about opression. Otherwise it could have started with two similarly sized groups. Or maybe that would have required too much drawing.)

I have seen the cartoon in question posted with a description that mentions oppression (insert your flavor of oppression here I guess) and how they always see people bitch and shout at their oppressors and mentioning that they're fighting hate with hate, etc., So that was what I was using.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Yla on January 21, 2014, 08:09:17 am
(http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/224/516/tumblr_lwsydvEtgG1r7rxb8o1_1280.jpg)

I think the "message" is actually racist, as much as age-ist. And it is invalid to compare songs from disparate genres and eras.
I'm not sure where you are getting racism from.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RavynousHunter on January 21, 2014, 11:39:09 am
The thing is many people are worried and seeing as Japan fucked it up that their power corps couldn't handle it
That too unless maybe you have a really good breeder reactor

Yes and no; in America, we've had a "Nuclear Panic" since the...60's, maybe the 50's.  It comes from a gross misunderstanding of the value of nuclear power, and leads people to completely ignore the progress we've made in the generations since nuclear power first became viable.  We can do it, its just that we're hamstrung by a tonne of ass-dragging simpletons who, like the more familiar neo-cons, bleat the same tired bullshit they've been saying for decades without any actual fact checking.  Once again, its a case of a few morons fucking the rest of us over.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on January 21, 2014, 12:25:49 pm
I think the "message" is actually racist, as much as age-ist. And it is invalid to compare songs from disparate genres and eras.
I'm not sure where you are getting racism from.

Well Beyonce is black while Freddie Mercury is Indian but was often mistaken as white, so this might be implicating that Beyonce's song is... Dumber because she is black (and possibly others who worked on the song as well.)

Then again, I think it could be just another complaint about how "modern" music is stupid and simple. Which is blatantly false as there have been simple silly songs since the creation of music and you'd find similar examples of complexity and quality from any era and genre.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: gyeonghwa on January 21, 2014, 12:31:30 pm
I think the "message" is actually racist, as much as age-ist. And it is invalid to compare songs from disparate genres and eras.
I'm not sure where you are getting racism from.

Well Beyonce is black while Freddie Mercury is Indian but was often mistaken as white, so this might be implicating that Beyonce's song is... Dumber because she is black (and possibly others who worked on the song as well.)

Then again, I think it could be just another complaint about how "modern" music is stupid and simple. Which is blatantly false as there have been simple silly songs since the creation of music and you'd find similar examples of complexity and quality from any era and genre.

In of itself it isn't racist, but when you look at how often people compare X to Freddy Mercury, X is more often a black artist (the fact that Freddy isn't white not withstanding). Context and what not.

But I will also point out comparing something cross genre is ridiculous anyways. Esperanza Spalding wrote most of her song and become one of the few Jazz artist to win a Grammy. But if you tried to compare Esperanza to Freddy, people are just gonna be like "but she's no one" simply because they aren't familiar with the Jazz scene. Most of the folks doing these comparisons are generally white men* not exposed to the varieties of R&B. And for as much as people like to complain about Beyonce, she has left her mark on the music of America and to deny as such would be ignorant.

*Interestingly, I've yet to see a woman post the X vs. Freddy meme. Perhaps there's something to that.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on January 21, 2014, 02:53:56 pm
If somebody thinks Busta Rhymes is a better rapper than Vanilla Ice, is he racist against white people?  No.  So why do you say musical preferences are indicative of racism?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Captain Jack Harkness on January 21, 2014, 03:04:13 pm
Just to chip in.  I've seen people compare Beiber to Queen.  If anything I'd say it's more of a symptom of hating on modern music/worshipping Queen.

On that note (as much as I like Queen), I think they're overrated as fucking hell.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on January 21, 2014, 03:26:49 pm
I think the "message" is actually racist, as much as age-ist. And it is invalid to compare songs from disparate genres and eras.
I'm not sure where you are getting racism from.

Well Beyonce is black while Freddie Mercury is Indian but was often mistaken as white, so this might be implicating that Beyonce's song is... Dumber because she is black (and possibly others who worked on the song as well.)

Then again, I think it could be just another complaint about how "modern" music is stupid and simple. Which is blatantly false as there have been simple silly songs since the creation of music and you'd find similar examples of complexity and quality from any era and genre.

I think folks make these complaints about music like that due to the ol' "Nostalgia Filter" (as TV Tropes called it). Actually all generations have had good, complex stuff & goofy stuff.

Heck, look at some of the "good stuff" of yore and the themes are simplistic dorkiness. Led Zeppelin was an amazing classic hard rock band and oft-cited as "the good stuff". But the lyrical themes of many of their tunes were on par with Warrant's "Cherry Pie" (Y'know, the 'Hey baby! Y'drive me crazy! Baby baby! Let's get sexy & roll in the hay, baby! etc.' stuff).

Likewise, the "good ol' days" were loaded with their own teeny-bopper, plastic pop schlock slop: Fabian, Pat Boone, The 1910 Fruitgum Factory, David Cassidy, Shawn Cassidy, The Osmonds, The DiFranco Family, Leif Garrett, Menudo, etc.

Even some good bands started off as basically "Boy Bands", yes, even THE BEATLES!

Taste is subjective and while some folks utterly adore stuff that's dorky & empty, I'll still respect their right to enjoy it. If someone's into jamming to the usual "New Insane Clown Fergies On The Nicklebackstreet Biebers" or reading "The Fifty Shades Of Edward Cullen's Nude Anita Blake Photo Collection", who am I to judge them as a person?

If I find someone's tastes goofy, I might express it but I wont obsess over hating on it to death. I have better things to do.

The above Beyonce lyrics are dorky but even John Lennon did the same thing once. Ever heard of John Lennon's protest anthem, Power To The People? Even he, after a while thought it was waaaaay too dorky, repetitive & simplistically written.

That said, Beyonce's girlpower anthem & Lennon's peacenik anthem were meant to be sort of something to get in your head as an earworm (I confess Beyonce did a stupider job, even Lennon added some variations, plus Beyonce's song seems more 'female-supremacist' than 'feminist').

Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on January 21, 2014, 03:36:55 pm
Okay.  Thanks for enlightening me, everybody.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Sixth Monarchist on January 21, 2014, 04:48:55 pm
(as much as I like Queen), I think they're overrated as fucking hell.

Oh, absolutely. They'll never rock as much as Ohio Express.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: gyeonghwa on January 21, 2014, 06:23:55 pm
If somebody thinks Busta Rhymes is a better rapper than Vanilla Ice, is he racist against white people?  No.  So why do you say musical preferences are indicative of racism?

But when you consistently say every such and such black artist is always worse than such and such white artist as mater of fact then yes it's probably racist as it usually stems from the idea that black music is inferior to white music. What part of "context" did you not understand? It's one thing to say x suck in comparison to y it's another to sweepingly say all things related to x are inferior to y.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Captain Jack Harkness on January 21, 2014, 07:11:13 pm
If somebody thinks Busta Rhymes is a better rapper than Vanilla Ice, is he racist against white people?  No.  So why do you say musical preferences are indicative of racism?

But when you consistently say every such and such black artist is always worse than such and such white artist as mater of fact then yes it's probably racist as it usually stems from the idea that black music is inferior to white music. What part of "context" did you not understand? It's one thing to say x suck in comparison to y it's another to sweepingly say all things related to x are inferior to y.

Remind me again where there was consistent degradation of black artists in comparison to white artists anywhere in this thread.  I think we're starting to get off topic.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: gyeonghwa on January 21, 2014, 08:52:49 pm
If somebody thinks Busta Rhymes is a better rapper than Vanilla Ice, is he racist against white people?  No.  So why do you say musical preferences are indicative of racism?

But when you consistently say every such and such black artist is always worse than such and such white artist as mater of fact then yes it's probably racist as it usually stems from the idea that black music is inferior to white music. What part of "context" did you not understand? It's one thing to say x suck in comparison to y it's another to sweepingly say all things related to x are inferior to y.

Remind me again where there was consistent degradation of black artists in comparison to white artists anywhere in this thread.  I think we're starting to get off topic.

Are you people not capable of reading? The subject of race was added before I got to this thread. It was expanded that the meme had racist usage. I opined that the meme in of itself isn't racist but people use it for racist means. Do you get it or are you just anal that someone seem to be defending Beyonce over Freddy? The post was already off topic (why are we posting music tastes in a political cartoon thread).

Bah typing on the phone and eating is a futile effort.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on January 21, 2014, 10:23:56 pm
I thought the most familiar of these memes used Jimi Hendrix as the archetype old musician to compare against. Which isn't fair anyway because Jimi was a left hand musical fucking genius. He was also probably a once in several generation master/virtruoso over his chose instrument - the electric guitar. Even when he was making music there wasn't many others running around with his technical mastery. Outside of classical music that level of technical proficiency is fucking rare.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on January 21, 2014, 11:56:18 pm
I've noticed with music black guys do t first then white  people do it and get all the credit
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on January 22, 2014, 12:27:42 am
I've noticed with music black guys do t first then white  people do it and get all the credit
That used to be the case.  Then rap happened.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on January 22, 2014, 01:03:07 am
I've noticed with music black guys do t first then white  people do it and get all the credit

Well there has been a bit of that in the US - Al Jolson and Elvis Presley being prime examples. Although I think you will fine that plenty of black artists get plenty of credit to - Cab Calloway, Billie Holiday, Louis Armstrong, Chuck Berry etc.

Then again sometimes it is more complicated - take for instance rap/ hip hop - probably started essentially by Grand Master Flash - but then along come guys like the Beastie Boys - who then give Public Enemy (PE opened for the Beasties - their first gig was as support for the BBoys) their first shot - but then you have Tupac and Dr Dre - and after Tupac dies Dr Dre  gives Eminem a shot.

But then again - unless your Wagner music should not be about race

Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on January 22, 2014, 01:53:00 am
I mean fuck, Kanye West is actually a pretty damn good musician, his previous dickery being irrelevant to that.

And yet you hear more praise for Eminem or, as Osama bin Bambi mentioned, Macklemore.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on January 22, 2014, 01:55:13 am
Oh Wykked I don't think Kanye has ever been dismissed. I think everyone accepts that he is the pinnacle and he basically named his last album 'God' . I am sure that there are examples which support your Macklemore comments but Kanye isn't one.

Edit:

Talking about lack of Credit - where is the credit for these guys:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHXk-bmVxAA
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cloud3514 on January 22, 2014, 02:11:28 am
Yeah, I'm fairly certain people hate Kanye because he's an egomaniacal douche, not because he's black. Also, Macklemore IS pretty groundbreaking in the mainstream because mainstream rap tends to be little more than brag tracks and party songs. Is he groundbreaking in general? No, but he's still more creative than most of the stuff that hits the mainstream.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: gyeonghwa on January 22, 2014, 02:22:38 am
In terms of rap, Tupac was already groundbreaking in particularly his view of women. There are also contemporary gay rappers who can convey the concept of gayness better than Macklemore but they aren't mainstream partly because LGBTQ voices are still pretty much not mainstream if they aren't white-picket fences with 2.5 kids and a car in every garage. But again comparing the 1990s to the 2010s is even a bit of stretch considering that even rap evolves.

As far as being a gay icon though, there's mixed feelings about Macklemore and he certainly doesn't hold a candle to Cher, or Diana Ross.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on January 22, 2014, 07:14:19 am
Yeah, I'm fairly certain people hate Kanye because he's an egomaniacal douche, not because he's black. Also, Macklemore IS pretty groundbreaking in the mainstream because mainstream rap tends to be little more than brag tracks and party songs. Is he groundbreaking in general? No, but he's still more creative than most of the stuff that hits the mainstream.

Tupac, Biggie, Eminem (who makes the opposite of brag tracks because he's always said he just wants to be a rapper that that is all he is), Atmosphere (depending on how we define mainstream), Hollywood Undead (depending on how you feel about some of their harder hitting tracks and the fact they aren't 'pure' hip hop/rap)

Macklemore isn't groundbreaking in any way. He's just considered that cause he thought he was gay cause he could draw. And the insinuation that all modern rap is about 'fucking hoes' and 'getting da benjamins' is ignoring a good part of rap. And racist besides.

While Macklemore is getting credit, people like Azealia Banks are being blatantly ignored even though she's a bisexual female who raps better than Macklemore. And yes, I am aware of the slur controversy with Azealia but that isn't the point.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on January 22, 2014, 07:26:15 am
Azealia Banks is awesome - What's the slur controversy though?

 I always though Macklemore was more groundbreaking in his economic views (that is you don't need to spend a lot of $ to buy things) rather than the sexuality thing. I mean so far as sexuality is concerned 'In Living Colour' sang ' everyone loves you when your bi' over a decade ago. (admittedly not rap). But so far as social values are concerned it seems to me that bands like the Beastie Boys and Public Enemy were ahead of the curve too. Plus guys like Jurassic 5.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on January 22, 2014, 09:02:27 am
She is. The slur controversy is where she called Perez Hilton a "messy faggot". And people also aren't all that crazy about her reclaiming the word 'cunt'. Personally I think she has every right to do the latter, and the former I have no set opinion on other than Perez kinda deserved it (though I'm not a fan of her explanation of why she used it).
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Meshakhad on January 22, 2014, 09:05:52 am
I think that Epic Lloyd (of ERBH fame) had the right idea on how to reclaim "faggot". In one of his "Dis Rap For Hire" videos, he defines it as "a man with no spine, no pride, or respect" and proceeds to apply it to a couple of homophobes. In other words, he used it as an insult, but one that had nothing to do with the target's sexuality.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Shane for Wax on January 22, 2014, 10:02:03 am
Yeah, Azealia used the definition 'a man who acts like a woman' which is gross on multiple levels so...
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Katsuro on January 22, 2014, 10:13:49 am
I mean fuck, Kanye West is actually a pretty damn good musician,

Yeah but It's hard for people to hear that through all the fucking autotune.  Either that or Kanye is in fact a robot, he certainly sounds like one on his records.

Loads of talented musicians (probably most actually) use autotune too for vaious reasons, but not usually to the extreme where it causes aural hemorrhaging.  Kanye might be a good singer and musician; if he is it'd be nice to be able to hear it.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on January 22, 2014, 12:10:34 pm
Well the thing with Mackelmore is that he's getting credit over actual gay people (UN spokesman for gay rights etc)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on January 22, 2014, 03:09:51 pm
(http://02varvara.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/01c-political-cartoons-08-11.jpg?w=1500)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on January 22, 2014, 08:43:07 pm
I mean fuck, Kanye West is actually a pretty damn good musician,

Yeah but It's hard for people to hear that through all the fucking autotune.  Either that or Kanye is in fact a robot, he certainly sounds like one on his records.

Loads of talented musicians (probably most actually) use autotune too for vaious reasons, but not usually to the extreme where it causes aural hemorrhaging.  Kanye might be a good singer and musician; if he is it'd be nice to be able to hear it.

If I gave a damn about autotune, I might agree.  But I really don't.

Especially when people whine when autotune sounds are used on purpose as its own instrument.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: KZN02 on January 23, 2014, 03:04:36 pm
Not sure about this one, but ...

(http://cdn.motinetwork.net/politifake.org/image/political/1401/both-are-man-made-despite-the-scientific-consensus-that-man-politics-1389848086.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: mellenORL on January 23, 2014, 03:43:14 pm
Skinniest polar bear I ever saw  :'(
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on January 23, 2014, 03:49:36 pm
Skinniest polar bear I ever saw  :'(
I don't know whether to blame Global Warming for that.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: mellenORL on January 23, 2014, 04:00:49 pm
They depend on huge areas of intact sea ice to hunt seal pups, their staple prey. No ice, no way to catch pups. The freeze/thaw cycle distribution of Arctic ice has been dramatically changing in just the last few years. Lots of documentaries and study results for you to look at all over the 'net, UP. And several documentaries specifically about polar bears being affected.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on January 23, 2014, 04:07:21 pm
They depend on huge areas of intact sea ice to hunt seal pups, their staple prey. No ice, no way to catch pups. The freeze/thaw cycle distribution of Arctic ice has been dramatically changing in just the last few years. Lots of documentaries and study results for you to look at all over the 'net, UP. And several documentaries specifically about polar bears being affected.

I knew that, but it seems like maybe it's going through "awkward years".  Its legs seem kind of long to me.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: mellenORL on January 23, 2014, 04:30:00 pm
I'm a fan of polar bears. Believe me, that's a malnourished bear.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on January 23, 2014, 04:33:37 pm
I'm a fan of polar bears. Believe me, that's a malnourished bear.
Okay, I'll take your word for it.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Sigmaleph on January 23, 2014, 10:40:17 pm
Not sure about this one, but ...

(http://cdn.motinetwork.net/politifake.org/image/political/1401/both-are-man-made-despite-the-scientific-consensus-that-man-politics-1389848086.jpg)

Eh.

Am I the only one bothered about how often "Best Political Cartoons" just ends up being "Political Cartoons We Agree With"? I mean, the message is correct and all, but I don't find the cartoon itself particularly clever, funny or well made.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on January 24, 2014, 02:52:15 am
(http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/2014_School_Shootings-011.png)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Kain on January 24, 2014, 03:08:47 am
Not sure about this one, but ...

/snip

Eh.

Am I the only one bothered about how often "Best Political Cartoons" just ends up being "Political Cartoons We Agree With"? I mean, the message is correct and all, but I don't find the cartoon itself particularly clever, funny or well made.

Same here. I see a lot of political cartoons I agree with, but they aren't necessarily well-crafted cartoons.

Thirding this. While I agree with a lot of what's been posted here, too much of it has been repeated to the point where I nearly stop caring.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on January 24, 2014, 03:25:41 pm
Not really a political cartoon, per se, but for lack of a better place...

(http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/684/382/711.gif)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on January 24, 2014, 03:31:05 pm
Okay that one is win simply for using Lilo and Stitch.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: SpaceProg on January 24, 2014, 04:46:50 pm
I wonder which country will finally drop the hot Bieber.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on January 24, 2014, 07:34:39 pm
The big thing could just toss the Bieber-head out of the window.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Sigmaleph on January 24, 2014, 07:36:16 pm
What does the window represent? Mexico? The Pacific? Am I reading too much into this? (yes)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on January 24, 2014, 07:37:47 pm
The big thing could just toss the Bieber-head out of the window.

Big thing?  Are you talking about Jumba?

...Wait, have you never seen Lilo and Stitch before?

Spuki, if there's any movie you would love, it's Lilo and Stitch.  Watch it however you can.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on January 24, 2014, 07:51:15 pm
What does the window represent? Mexico? The Pacific? Am I reading too much into this? (yes)
North Korea.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Igor on January 24, 2014, 10:31:53 pm
What does the window represent? Mexico? The Pacific? Am I reading too much into this? (yes)
North Korea.
I'm pretty sure that if there's one thing you could do to start a war with NK, it'd be to send Bieber there.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on January 25, 2014, 11:42:20 am
(http://i.imgur.com/nK5UwEu.png)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: TheL on January 25, 2014, 03:02:37 pm
I think the "message" is actually racist, as much as age-ist. And it is invalid to compare songs from disparate genres and eras.
I'm not sure where you are getting racism from.

Well Beyonce is black while Freddie Mercury is Indian but was often mistaken as white, so this might be implicating that Beyonce's song is... Dumber because she is black (and possibly others who worked on the song as well.)

Then again, I think it could be just another complaint about how "modern" music is stupid and simple. Which is blatantly false as there have been simple silly songs since the creation of music and you'd find similar examples of complexity and quality from any era and genre.

I would consider it a case of "too many cooks," myself.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on January 25, 2014, 04:46:46 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/nK5UwEu.png)

DAMN! Quit making Google+ an adorable little woobie creature that I want to huggle!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Random Gal on January 25, 2014, 07:31:36 pm
http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/cold.png
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Skybison on January 26, 2014, 01:36:35 am
I Second that.

Back when I was a kid in 90s Ottawa normally the first snowfall would come before Halloween, and last well into April, and I can remember two seperate occasions when we got a bit of snow in early May.  Now we rarely see snow until around Christmas time, generally melts earlier too, and we get more warm spells of mid spring weather in January.

Yet people still make that joke every time we get a cold snap and I want to shake them and yell "Do you remember your childhood at all?"
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on January 26, 2014, 01:40:11 am
And so xkcd makes yet another great point.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cerim Treascair on January 26, 2014, 06:19:01 am
meanwhile, here I am with 4 inches of powder and 12.5 F...
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: wrightway on January 26, 2014, 02:32:43 pm
(https://scontent-b-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/t1/1609658_767779876583937_1896157803_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cloud3514 on January 26, 2014, 04:56:39 pm
Yeah, I'm fairly certain people hate Kanye because he's an egomaniacal douche, not because he's black. Also, Macklemore IS pretty groundbreaking in the mainstream because mainstream rap tends to be little more than brag tracks and party songs. Is he groundbreaking in general? No, but he's still more creative than most of the stuff that hits the mainstream.

Tupac, Biggie, Eminem (who makes the opposite of brag tracks because he's always said he just wants to be a rapper that that is all he is), Atmosphere (depending on how we define mainstream), Hollywood Undead (depending on how you feel about some of their harder hitting tracks and the fact they aren't 'pure' hip hop/rap)

Macklemore isn't groundbreaking in any way. He's just considered that cause he thought he was gay cause he could draw. And the insinuation that all modern rap is about 'fucking hoes' and 'getting da benjamins' is ignoring a good part of rap. And racist besides.

While Macklemore is getting credit, people like Azealia Banks are being blatantly ignored even though she's a bisexual female who raps better than Macklemore. And yes, I am aware of the slur controversy with Azealia but that isn't the point.

Because Lil Wayne totally didn't top the charts with a song that objectifies women and treats them like they exist entirely for his sexual conquest last year. Oh wait. Like I said, Macklemore on any level beyond the mainstream is nothing special. Entertaining, but nothing special. In the mainstream, he is about the only one who will actually stand up for gay rights.

I never said that all modern rap is idiotic, but the mainstream generally is. Tupac and Biggie haven't been mainstream for a long fucking time. Eminem and Macklemore tend to be exceptions, not the standard. As for Banks, Better artists being passed up for more marketable artists is nothing new. It doesn't excuse it, but it really just shows that the mainstream audience is looking for the flavor of the month, not any actual depth.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Vypernight on January 26, 2014, 04:58:04 pm
(https://scontent-b-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/t1/1609658_767779876583937_1896157803_n.jpg)

Give 'em an FL plate!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on January 27, 2014, 05:26:08 pm
(http://media.cagle.com/95/2014/01/23/143449_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on January 27, 2014, 05:53:47 pm
I hope not
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on January 27, 2014, 07:31:46 pm
(http://images.huffingtonpost.com/2009-05-27-prop8cartoon.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on January 28, 2014, 10:28:39 am
(http://images.huffingtonpost.com/2009-05-27-prop8cartoon.jpg)

I love that cartoon!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on January 29, 2014, 10:38:05 am
(http://media.cagle.com/81/2013/03/27/129318_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on January 30, 2014, 11:48:31 am
You know what they say about a stopped clock being right twice a day?

(http://www.the-spearhead.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/LoneNut3.png)

Well, even Lone Nut Comics makes a good point now and again.  Aside from the sexist joke in the last panel, this does a good job of pointing out the domestic violence double standard.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Captain Jack Harkness on January 30, 2014, 02:04:39 pm
Too bad it's a ridiculous strawman.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on January 30, 2014, 04:03:25 pm
Too bad it's a ridiculous strawman.
It's a political cartoon, of course they use ridiculous strawmen.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Caitshidhe on January 30, 2014, 05:10:24 pm
It would be making something of a good point if it had a dozen panels before it of the poodle beating the crap out of the Generic Male Dog, verbally abusing him, controlling him, and the GMD being too embarrassed or scared to do anything about it because he's afraid police won't take him seriously. Because that often IS how domestic abuse against men goes--they don;t report it out of fear of being ridiculed or not believed, or both.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on January 30, 2014, 05:26:08 pm
It would be making something of a good point if it had a dozen panels before it of the poodle beating the crap out of the Generic Male Dog, verbally abusing him, controlling him, and the GMD being too embarrassed or scared to do anything about it because he's afraid police won't take him seriously. Because that often IS how domestic abuse against men goes--they don;t report it out of fear of being ridiculed or not believed, or both.
Yes, it is.  It's an atrocious double standard, and one of the reasons I sympathize with progressive masculists (not MRAs, though, because thanks to some on this site, I've learned that they're the masculist equivalent of radfems).
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Caitshidhe on January 30, 2014, 05:34:25 pm
I honestly have no idea how common it is for, say, a man to call the cops on his female partner for domestic violence and then the man get carted away for it because she broke her hand punching him in the face or something like that--I'm sure it DOES happen, and I think there are a few places where by default the man gets taken to the station when domestic violence complaints come through, but I seriously doubt it happens very much.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on January 30, 2014, 05:36:13 pm
I honestly have no idea how common it is for, say, a man to call the cops on his female partner for domestic violence and then the man get carted away for it because she broke her hand punching him in the face or something like that--I'm sure it DOES happen, and I think there are a few places where by default the man gets taken to the station when domestic violence complaints come through, but I seriously doubt it happens very much.
Actually, it happens more often than you think.  I've read that in many states, police procedure is to arrest the one who seems to be more of a threat, which is usually the man.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: ironbite on January 30, 2014, 06:27:21 pm
Oh good you've read.  Now can the rest of us read to?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Caitshidhe on January 30, 2014, 06:37:42 pm
Comedian Chris Titus has a routine about it in his 'Norman Rockwell is Bleeding' special, but that's not exactly a reliable source. I'd be interested to read the documentation about this, as well.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on January 30, 2014, 07:13:30 pm
It's covered in the book Abused Men: The Hidden Side of Domestic Violence.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Damen on January 30, 2014, 07:55:36 pm
Comedian Chris Titus has a routine about it in his 'Norman Rockwell is Bleeding' special, but that's not exactly a reliable source. I'd be interested to read the documentation about this, as well.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgI39jmNb4Q
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: ironbite on January 30, 2014, 08:12:41 pm
It's covered in the book Abused Men: The Hidden Side of Domestic Violence.

Nice

Ironbite-got anything online we can check out ourselves to cite?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on January 30, 2014, 08:26:44 pm
Also seeeing as the cartoonist wants to repeal the 19th amendmentI get the feeling that he wants to be able to beat up women
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on January 30, 2014, 10:23:00 pm
It's covered in the book Abused Men: The Hidden Side of Domestic Violence.

Nice

Ironbite-got anything online we can check out ourselves to cite?
I'll try to find something.

Also seeeing as the cartoonist wants to repeal the 19th amendmentI get the feeling that he wants to be able to beat up women
That seems likely, given that the duo behind this are a pair of misogynistic pricks.  But that doesn't mean they don't have a point.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on January 31, 2014, 01:15:42 am
its negated seeing as what we see is different from what they see
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Caitshidhe on January 31, 2014, 02:23:41 am
I'll try to find something.

Please do, and I'm being serious here. Because I would like to see some genuine sources about how often this happens. Because I'm curious. I'm not saying you're full of crap, but I've only ever heard bits and pieces about it before and I'd like to see some legitimate stats.


Quote
Also seeeing as the cartoonist wants to repeal the 19th amendmentI get the feeling that he wants to be able to beat up women
That seems likely, given that the duo behind this are a pair of misogynistic pricks.  But that doesn't mean they don't have a point.

My boything has a phrase he uses a lot: even a blind hog finds an acorn now and then.

Just because someone gets a little something right doesn't mean all of their arguments have merit.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: LeTipex on January 31, 2014, 07:39:28 am
My boything has a phrase he uses a lot: even a blind hog finds an acorn now and then.
I've heard the same, but with squirrels ^^.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on January 31, 2014, 09:08:43 am
Like I said, even a stopped clock is right twice a day.  They're horrible dicks, but in this case, they have a point.  Of course, that doesn't make any of their other material any better.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on January 31, 2014, 10:54:30 am
Well depends imo it doesnt since in the context of the other strips is bad
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on January 31, 2014, 11:21:09 am
(http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/324/241/985.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Id82 on January 31, 2014, 11:36:23 am
Well at least the woman on the left has the freedom to wear what she wants. She isn't forced to wear a bikini and won't be stoned in the street if she doesn't do so.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on January 31, 2014, 11:54:04 am
Well at least the woman on the left has the freedom to wear what she wants. She isn't forced to wear a bikini and won't be stoned in the street if she doesn't do so.
Not all women in burqas are forced to wear them.  That's an Islamophobic misconception.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on January 31, 2014, 12:11:12 pm
for once paragon is right in france women are forced to not wear a niqab
that's not a  burqa btw stop calling it that
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: LeTipex on January 31, 2014, 01:09:53 pm
Well at least the woman on the left has the freedom to wear what she wants. She isn't forced to wear a bikini and won't be stoned in the street if she doesn't do so.
Not all women in burqas are forced to wear them.  That's an Islamophobic misconception.
At least some of them are, that's the point. Once that's the case, it gets hard to really decide when one wears them by choice or because they are forced to.
for once paragon is right in france women are forced to not wear a niqab
that's not a  burqa btw stop calling it that
There isn't really a law against niqab per se,  it's more that it's forbidden to hide one's face in public places, or to wear ostentatious religious garments in schools and mairies and whatnot.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on January 31, 2014, 01:17:05 pm
that doesn't really make the law pro islam also almost no nations have a niqab mandate
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: LeTipex on January 31, 2014, 01:53:56 pm
that doesn't really make the law pro islam also almost no nations have a niqab mandate
Why would you need pro-islam laws in a secular country? As long as they aren't anti-islam, what's the big deal? (and no, they really aren't anti-islam as written. True, the law might be abused because case of people wearing carnival masks don't lead to a police intervention while people marching with niqab might, but that's not a problem with the letter of the law in and of itself.)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on January 31, 2014, 02:09:01 pm
You have a point.  Parade regulations were often used against civil rights marchers.

On the other hand, I'm pretty damn sure this law was specifically targeted at Muslims.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: LeTipex on January 31, 2014, 02:20:26 pm
You have a point.  Parade regulations were often used against civil rights marchers.

On the other hand, I'm pretty damn sure this law was specifically targeted at Muslims.
It's pretty hard to be sure. There have certainly been people saying that here in France, but others are defending the law saying that no religion should be allowed to be visible in public, and since staying visibly secular is a big thing in french politics (to the point that every time a political movement eyes our equivalent of the religious right the presse goes into an uproar), it's a bit hard to tell who's right and who's wrong.
I for one am not against that law. Who knows, maybe I'm wrong.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RavynousHunter on January 31, 2014, 06:08:56 pm
Honestly, I think dress codes in general tend to be pretty fucking stupid, specially for schools.  Can't come to school wearing short-shorts?  Well, if your teachers weren't so god damned boring, maybe the students wouldn't be so easily distracted.  Plus, a lot of them are teenagers, or to put it a better way, a horde of kids who are at various stages of extreme hormonal changes whose decision-making skills are largely dictated by their genitals.

Seriously, though, I'd go to France in full face-mask-and-gown attire (whatever the proper term for that is in Muslim society) just to fuck with the limp-dick assholes who make such asinine laws.  Though, I do find it somewhat ironic that a country most stereotypically known for an abundance of extreme promiscuity has moronic dress code laws.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on January 31, 2014, 06:57:12 pm
Well seeing as the law bans Burqas which ZERO people wear...
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: LeTipex on January 31, 2014, 08:16:26 pm
Though, I do find it somewhat ironic that a country most stereotypically known for an abundance of extreme promiscuity has moronic dress code laws.
Dress codes laws that forbid you from having too much clothing, though  ;).
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on January 31, 2014, 08:25:00 pm
Well, I've heard that France also has really dumb sales laws.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Caitshidhe on January 31, 2014, 08:48:02 pm
There is SOME justification for, say, disallowing loose/drapey or very skimpy clothing in school if, for example, you are in a science lab or something. You wouldn't want some poor girl's headscarf catching fire any more than you would want the sleeves of her peasant blouse to catch fire. Or some kid's hair. Or some kid's beard. And you wouldn't want them accidentally spilling something dangerous in their lap when they're wearing shorts.

Dress codes of some sort aren't a bad thing if they simply establish easy-to-follow rules like 'no underwear as outerwear, no swimwear, no asscheeks hanging out, no drugs or booze or profanity on your clothing'. But they always seem to unfairly target girls and obsess over what they wear. As if girls don't have enough problems with way too much focus being on how they dress. My high school had a rule that no cleavage could ever be shown at any time under any circumstance--which is fine if we're talking about boob-bearing shirts, but they meant that ANY visible line/separation between boobs could not be seen EVER, which for big-chested girls means you basically have to wear a turtleneck because your cleavage comes up to your chin.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: I am lizard on January 31, 2014, 09:15:36 pm
You know what they say about a stopped clock being right twice a day?

(http://www.the-spearhead.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/LoneNut3.png)

Well, even Lone Nut Comics makes a good point now and again.  Aside from the sexist joke in the last panel, this does a good job of pointing out the domestic violence double standard.
I would have just stabbed that stupid dog, but blunt trauma works as well.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on January 31, 2014, 09:20:40 pm
By the way, I think I noticed an art fail.  She hit him on the back of the head, and yet his face is hurt.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: chad sexington on February 01, 2014, 07:52:07 am
That was only the first of many blows.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on February 01, 2014, 02:09:28 pm
That was only the first of many blows.
They could have conveyed that better.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on February 01, 2014, 06:51:17 pm
Heck "Bowser Von Mustache" doesn't seem to care or react when "Fifi L'Pompompoodelle" bonks him with a frying pan. He just calmly sits there, looking posh, snooty, bored & aloof.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on February 01, 2014, 08:46:47 pm
Heck "Bowser Von Mustache" doesn't seem to care or react when "Fifi L'Pompompoodelle" bonks him with a frying pan. He just calmly sits there, looking posh, snooty, bored & aloof.
I love those names!  I'm going to call them those from now on.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Id82 on February 01, 2014, 10:03:32 pm
Warning possibly gross:

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on February 02, 2014, 01:03:33 am
Aaaaand I'm gonna be sick.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: The Right Honourable Mlle Antéchrist on February 02, 2014, 01:23:54 am
Or The Human Centipede 2, for that matter. So much more The Human Centipede 2, actually.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: mellenORL on February 02, 2014, 11:26:34 am
The cartoon is spot on, but too gross. I can't even contemplate The Human Centipede, 1 or 2, much less get up the nerve to watch it.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: worlder on February 02, 2014, 01:01:17 pm
I cannot take the Human Centipede seriously after South Park did their spoof on the movie.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on February 02, 2014, 05:12:09 pm
I still don't know what inspired that movie.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on February 02, 2014, 05:19:06 pm
What would happen if we made a horror movie about shitting in mouths said a guy high as a kite
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on February 02, 2014, 05:29:03 pm
What would happen if we made a horror movie about shitting in mouths said a guy high as a kite
That's probably not far off the mark.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on February 02, 2014, 05:40:48 pm
What would happen if we made a horror movie about shitting in mouths said a guy high as a kite
That's probably not far off the mark.

Actually, the idea for the film came from a joke about punishing child molesters by stitching their mouth to the anus of truck driver.
Which I bet was made while stoned.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: The Right Honourable Mlle Antéchrist on February 02, 2014, 06:26:43 pm
A few weeks before news of The Human Centipede hit the media, I commented to my friend that the worst thing ever would be if your mouth somehow became fused to your anus and you were forced to endlessly pass waste in a circle until you died. When the film was announced, by friend sent me a message about it saying something along the lines of, "Your nightmare came true."
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on February 03, 2014, 04:15:40 pm
(http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/450/709/14b.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on February 03, 2014, 06:19:00 pm
Why do artists not get that spines don't work that way
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Captain Jack Harkness on February 03, 2014, 10:44:26 pm
Why do artists not get that spines don't work that way

Artistic License - Anatomy?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Sylvana on February 04, 2014, 12:28:34 am
Why do artists not get that spines don't work that way

Well to be fair, this time its purely for the sake of parody.

Although what I found funny was that Black Widow is kind of posing like that in the actual poster. Says a lot about our culture if you think about it.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Meshakhad on February 04, 2014, 01:12:00 am
Not a great deal, though. At least her shoulders are parallel with her hips.

Can someone link me to the thread we had that tore into this particular subject?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on February 04, 2014, 10:36:14 am
Heck "Bowser Von Mustache" doesn't seem to care or react when "Fifi L'Pompompoodelle" bonks him with a frying pan. He just calmly sits there, looking posh, snooty, bored & aloof.
I love those names!  I'm going to call them those from now on.

Cool, thanks!


What would happen if we made a horror movie about shitting in mouths said a guy high as a kite
That's probably not far off the mark.

Actually, the idea for the film came from a joke about punishing child molesters by stitching their mouth to the anus of truck driver.

Frankly, I think the whole squickfest would have been better if the doomed protagonists were child-molesters rather than innocent tourists (or whatever they were). A sort of gross-out version of Dexter. Crazy German Mad Doctor Guy could grab a truck-driving Klansman, followed by a child-molester, child-rapist/murderer & an expy of Gertrude Baniszewski at the end.

(Gertrude Baniszewski was the murderer of Sylvia Likens, by the way and a total 'Karma Houdini')


(http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/450/709/14b.jpg)

I love how the Hulk is just clumsily standing there "Oogh! Ugh! Look at Hulk butt!"
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on February 04, 2014, 08:31:10 pm
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/437be4ba7dcf575bb1bab77f03c51214/tumblr_mkdwpqlPcr1qa48l2o1_400.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Yla on February 05, 2014, 05:13:11 am
(http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/450/709/14b.jpg)
That one could be even greater of Black Widow (the one woman in the pic, I think that's her name) would be the same, unmodified. She already is in a T&A pose.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on February 05, 2014, 10:37:59 am
(http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/450/709/14b.jpg)
That one could be even greater of Black Widow (the one woman in the pic, I think that's her name) would be the same, unmodified. She already is in a T&A pose.
They're making a point.  Ever hear of the Hawkeye Initiative?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on February 06, 2014, 11:42:05 am
(http://infidelsarecool.com/wp-content/uploads/putin_democracy_cold_war.gif)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Yla on February 07, 2014, 04:40:19 am
[img]http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/450/709/14b.jpg[img]
That one could be even greater of Black Widow (the one woman in the pic, I think that's her name) would be the same, unmodified. She already is in a T&A pose.
They're making a point.  Ever hear of the Hawkeye Initiative?
I realize that, and yes. I'm saying the point would be even better made if BW would stay unmodified.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on February 07, 2014, 11:19:26 am
(http://i.imgur.com/AHAXnzs.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on February 09, 2014, 01:23:36 pm
(http://media.cagle.com/81/2010/07/20/80949_600.jpg)

There are a lot of things I disagree with the Tea Party about, but painting it as a racist organization is just disingenuous.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: mellenORL on February 09, 2014, 01:36:54 pm
(http://media.cagle.com/81/2010/07/20/80949_600.jpg)

There are a lot of things I disagree with the Tea Party about, but painting it as a racist organization is just disingenuous.

I think the cartoonist is pointing criticism at exaggerated stereotypes. As for the tea party image, it really isn't that far off base as the previous two. Some of my family members are tea partiers, and unfortunately, they are also part of the supposedly minority extreme element in that they hate "takers", who always seem to be non white or immigrant or just poor, in their world view. In any case, you aren't born a tea party member, you join it. Considering how ultra conservative and reactionary the founders of the tea party - the Koch brothers - in proud fact are , it's not surprising that tea party members are bigoted to begin with, and/or, gradually become bigoted or more bigoted through peer pressure over time.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on February 09, 2014, 01:47:01 pm
The problem is that you're looking at the way the media portrays them.  Certainly, some Tea Partiers are shitheads, but it's the same with just about any group.  I know a few Tea Partiers, and while I may disagree with them on some points, I have found them to be pleasant people who make quite a few good points.  Saying they're all racist, religiously fanatical conspiracy theorists is like saying that everybody in the Occupy Movement is a lazy, hypocritical communist who hates the rich on principle.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on February 09, 2014, 01:57:04 pm
For the last time all republicans vote the same same same on the federal level
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on February 09, 2014, 01:57:56 pm
For the last time all republicans vote the same same same on the federal level
And you accuse them of stereotyping and generalizing.  Shiny mirror you've got there.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on February 09, 2014, 01:58:58 pm
Look at the voting records they are super lockstep ::)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on February 09, 2014, 02:01:22 pm
Look at the voting records they are super lockstep ::)
Except when they're not.  For example, some Republicans supported going to war in Syria, while others didn't
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on February 09, 2014, 02:06:52 pm
that was what they said but truthfully they would all have agreed once it came time to vote should that have ever happened
look can you for once trust me
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Captain Jack Harkness on February 09, 2014, 02:11:06 pm
Look at the voting records they are super lockstep ::)
Except when they're not.  For example, some Republicans supported going to war in Syria, while others didn't

It's easier to write off people if you just put them into a monolithic block.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on February 09, 2014, 02:13:26 pm
Look at the voting records they are super lockstep ::)
Except when they're not.  For example, some Republicans supported going to war in Syria, while others didn't

It's easier to write off people if you just put them into a monolithic block.
Yes, it is.  Which is why I try to avoid that.  For future reference, if you ever think I'm doing that, feel free to call me on it.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on February 10, 2014, 06:06:47 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/K5OMitV.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Yla on February 12, 2014, 04:52:56 am
For the last time all republicans vote the same same same on the federal level
Um.. The GOP is not identical to the Tea Party.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on February 12, 2014, 08:42:49 am
They are registered republicans and if you look at voting records they are almost identical but thanks for ignoring me
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: ironbite on February 12, 2014, 11:38:24 am
Kef you're adorable but you're wrong.

Ironbite-so...so wrong.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on February 12, 2014, 01:45:04 pm
Sigh fine YOU WIN
Im sorry I look at voting records
Im sorry I can't analyze worth a fuck
Im sorry no one will ever trust me
hides and cries in her car
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: ironbite on February 12, 2014, 01:50:28 pm
*puts car in a compactor and hits the switch*

Ironbite-feel better now that you've been cubed?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on February 12, 2014, 01:53:40 pm
*puts car in a compactor and hits the switch*

Ironbite-feel better now that you've been cubed?

Not cool, dude.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: mellenORL on February 12, 2014, 02:05:52 pm
I've lost track (reading other thread updates til just now), but is the point in contention about correlation between tea party affiliation or identification and current/former republican party registration, and party lines voting trends amongst republicans? Because the tea party is not an official election registered party, unlike the greens or libertarians. Pretty sure nearly 85+% of tea party movement self-identified people are either formerly or currently registered republicans. Amongst elected democrats in Congress, I don't think there is a single one who also identifies as a tea party affiliate.

Both democratic and republican parties in Congress are documented as being quite polarized, more so than in a century, and it has been in many news reports of statistical studies of congressional voting records that yes, republican congressmen vote pretty much as a bloc especially on party platform agenda items like taxation, health care reform, and military funding. Not so much polarity on mundane technical bills. There are a few notable exceptions to republican platform bloc voting, Olympia Snowe for one, but these excepted reps and sens are the ones that are branded RINO by tea party loudmouths.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Captain Jack Harkness on February 13, 2014, 03:41:08 am
*puts car in a compactor and hits the switch*

Ironbite-feel better now that you've been cubed?

Not cool, dude.

"But since it's ironbite, it's okay!"  Or so I'm sure ironbite thinks.

Also, I think Kefka just needs to...relax a bit.

Then again, I'm not entirely sure I should even be getting involved.  Not without Flame and Burn as part of it, anyway.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on February 13, 2014, 04:09:32 am
No you shouldn't. Who the hell are you anyway cracker
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RavynousHunter on February 13, 2014, 10:46:52 am
*squints*  I think that's B-Man...but I might be right.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on February 13, 2014, 10:54:18 am
With Queen gone Im taking over as angry trans/nonbianary :D
Also don't tell me to relax when you guys ignroe everything I say
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: mellenORL on February 13, 2014, 12:18:00 pm
The ones posting snark are ignoring you, kefka. Not necessarily everyone reading the thread. Certainly not me. <hugs>
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on February 13, 2014, 01:14:14 pm
its more of since im actually a poli sci major and I know voting records that it seems like my expertise is ignored
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RavynousHunter on February 13, 2014, 05:03:30 pm
Dunno about anyone else here, Kef, but I had no idea what you did IRL until just now.  That may have factored in a bit, but honestly, the snark was...a tad heavy-handed, I'll admit.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Captain Jack Harkness on February 13, 2014, 05:21:33 pm
its more of since im actually a poli sci major and I know voting records that it seems like my expertise is ignored

Well, the voting record is often similar.  Thing is, you're speaking in absolutes as though a [traditional] Republican and a Tea Partier will always vote the exact same all the time.  It's not to say that the voting record isn't very similar on many issues, but to treat it as something that's totally unwavering is a bit...much for most people I think.

If you had added some kind of qualifier about how Republicans vote on party line more often than not, I think people would be a bit less critical of your position.  Also, I really don't think blowing up at people for disagreeing with you (and Paragon pointing out at least one counterexample) helps.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on February 14, 2014, 12:26:12 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/QVyFWQR.png)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Captain Jack Harkness on February 14, 2014, 01:27:01 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/QVyFWQR.png)

This would probably go better in the funny/stupid pictures thread.  Funny though this comic may be, I really don't think it counts as "political."
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: KZN02 on February 14, 2014, 05:00:06 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/QVyFWQR.png)

This would probably go better in the funny/stupid pictures thread.  Funny though this comic may be, I really don't think it counts as "political."
Should have used the NSA one, but I think I posted that one months ago.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on February 14, 2014, 05:55:17 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/Py3fwD6.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on February 15, 2014, 01:00:38 am
*Snip*

This would probably go better in the funny/stupid pictures thread.  Funny though this comic may be, I really don't think it counts as "political."
Should have used the NSA one, but I think I posted that one months ago.
Well, that comic is about the controversy surrounding the mobile version of Dungeon keeper. Basically, when they ask you to rate the game you get two options: 5 stars or a button that says 1-4 stars. But if you click the latter it opens up a page that asks you why on Earth aren't you satisfied and you have to send an email to the developers first to be able to give anything less than 5 star review.

Actually, I'm not even sure if it registers the 1-4 star button as a review, they just might only make the 5 star button affect the rating of the game. That way a F2P game that is unplayable unless you sink huge amounts of money into it can boast an "over 4 stars average score."

EDIT:
(http://l2.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/7Q0BYvafImqRLP77YtZTfg--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7Zmk9ZmlsbDtoPTM1OTtweW9mZj0wO3E9NzU7dz01MDA-/http://media.zenfs.com/en_us/News/ucomics.com/bor140130.gif)
(http://l3.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/rxm6NZtSNwR._XtVweqvNQ--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7Zmk9ZmlsbDtoPTM2OTtweW9mZj0wO3E9NzU7dz01MDA-/http://media.zenfs.com/en_us/News/ucomics.com/bor140213.gif)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: LeTipex on February 15, 2014, 06:04:35 am
(http://l2.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/7Q0BYvafImqRLP77YtZTfg--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7Zmk9ZmlsbDtoPTM1OTtweW9mZj0wO3E9NzU7dz01MDA-/http://media.zenfs.com/en_us/News/ucomics.com/bor140130.gif)
Huh?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on February 15, 2014, 06:55:19 am
(http://l2.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/7Q0BYvafImqRLP77YtZTfg--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7Zmk9ZmlsbDtoPTM1OTtweW9mZj0wO3E9NzU7dz01MDA-/http://media.zenfs.com/en_us/News/ucomics.com/bor140130.gif)
Huh?

...Haven't you noticed how people use the word holocaust to refer to whatever mistreatment they feel they have suffered?

The comic refers to this case I think: http://www.businessinsider.com/tom-perkins-nazi-email-2014-1

He really feels that what the Occupy movements is doing to billionaires is identical to what the nazis did to the jews.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on February 15, 2014, 10:34:44 am
Speaking of...

(http://i.imgur.com/DLil65v.png)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: ironbite on February 15, 2014, 08:42:03 pm
....what?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on February 15, 2014, 08:46:17 pm
....what?
Basically, it's comparing the "persecution" exotic pet owners go through to the human rights abuses against political dissidents in Burma.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: ironbite on February 15, 2014, 08:50:00 pm
That....makes no....sense.

Ironbite-*blows up the world*
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on February 15, 2014, 08:51:39 pm
That....makes no....sense.

Ironbite-*blows up the world*
It's a contrast to show "first world privilege".
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on February 15, 2014, 11:23:03 pm
I suppose it sounds a little to close to if you can vote you're not oppressed
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on February 15, 2014, 11:55:41 pm
I suppose it sounds a little to close to if you can vote you're not oppressed
It was just saying to keep things in perspective, kef.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: LeTipex on February 16, 2014, 12:25:24 am
(http://l2.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/7Q0BYvafImqRLP77YtZTfg--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7Zmk9ZmlsbDtoPTM1OTtweW9mZj0wO3E9NzU7dz01MDA-/http://media.zenfs.com/en_us/News/ucomics.com/bor140130.gif)
Huh?

...Haven't you noticed how people use the word holocaust to refer to whatever mistreatment they feel they have suffered?

The comic refers to this case I think: http://www.businessinsider.com/tom-perkins-nazi-email-2014-1

He really feels that what the Occupy movements is doing to billionaires is identical to what the nazis did to the jews.
I... wasn't aware of that. Dear lords. How can you be so successfull and yet so fucking stupid?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on February 17, 2014, 12:09:35 am
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/5cd1c711b9c489abcc31593c48821748/tumblr_n109dtOua21r55d2io1_1280.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: I am lizard on February 17, 2014, 12:26:00 am
Speaking of...

(http://i.imgur.com/DLil65v.png)
I read Sandra and Woo.

Why am i mentioning this?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Feral Dog on February 17, 2014, 03:16:15 am
....what?
Basically, it's comparing the "persecution" exotic pet owners go through to the human rights abuses against political dissidents in Burma.

Jesus Christ on a cracker, you have no idea how much exotic pet ownership pisses me off.

Yeah, enjoy your inbred, hybridized tiger useless for any conservation programs (yes a lot of these people try to pull the 'it's conservation' card)... while genetically viable tigers are slaughtered to extinction. Enjoy your monkey (after you've removed its teeth, fingertips, and tail), I'm sure it loves living alone in a birdcage. Enjoy your wolf, I'm sure the fact that it has not descended from animals bred for generations to have accept human contact won't have any impact on your ability to care for it or its unique needs (wolves aren't just dogs that live in the woods). Enjoy that turtle, I'm sure the fact that you're too much of a cheapskate to buy a UV lamp and research what the species in question needs in terms of food, water, and habitat won't result in it dying several decades prematurely.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ghoti on February 17, 2014, 03:40:14 am
Feral, it sounds like irresponsible exotic pet ownership pisses you off. If someone has the time, money, and know-how to appropriately care for an exotic animal, I say they can knock themselves out. Besides, many animals live significantly longer in captivity than they do in the wild, and education programs aren't out of the question just because an animal is hybridized.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Feral Dog on February 17, 2014, 05:25:40 am
Education, sure, but not conservation. I don't think that someone who isn't part of an actual conservation/research/educational program should own wildlife. No pets, no entertainment. The entire 'pet wildlife' industry (from trappers to breeders to buyers) is irresponsible- and it's not just PETA freaks saying that. Biologists, ecologists, and other experts point out the damage caused to local ecosystems (Examples: population decline in rainforests as a direct result of the pet trade, and Florida's ongoing problems with introduced species like pythons), the introduced diseases, breeding mills for the ~20% or so animals that weren't caught in the wild, the huge percentage (as high as 90% depending on species) of animals that end up dead during transport, the lack of regulation, all before we even get into the common problems in private ownership situations or the entertainment industry. That a few animals have managed to live longer in captivity just means they are the lucky ones.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cerim Treascair on February 17, 2014, 08:58:47 am
Speaking of...

(http://i.imgur.com/DLil65v.png)
I read Sandra and Woo.

Why am i mentioning this?

I read it too.  I should catch up on it.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: mellenORL on February 17, 2014, 10:04:38 am
Feral, it sounds like irresponsible exotic pet ownership pisses you off. If someone has the time, money, and know-how to appropriately care for an exotic animal, I say they can knock themselves out. Besides, many animals live significantly longer in captivity than they do in the wild, and education programs aren't out of the question just because an animal is hybridized.

It's still dangerous and stupid on many levels, and unfair to the captive wild animals. They cannot be actual pets by definition. Few people who own exotics actually have the needed amount of money, time or expertise to keep them. What they do have is enough ego and naivete to want a "special" "pet" because it's cool and unique. Exotic pet permit requirements are laughable; exotic pet laws are actually woefully outdated, inadequate, and poorly enforced due to lack of LEO manpower to do the job. The majority of the animals suffer poor quality lives in constrained confinement that is inherently cruel for animals that naturally roam over huge territories, and that have dispositions suited to surviving; intelligence and curiosity and natural paranoia. A private owner cannot enrich a captive wild animal's enclosure enough to keep it's mind properly stimulated. It's a huge challenge in zoos, which have the expertise, manpower and facilities, so how can an exotic pet owner even come close to that level of care? Even zoo keepers admit they can barely keep their animals occupied. This is why exotic pets can be so dangerous. A captive tiger needs the same things as a wild one; to stalk grazing animals, failing often and then succeeding in a kill, it needs many square miles of wild habitat, it needs the presence of other tigers to compete over turf with and for mates. Who can provide that? Maybe Ted Turner, on his gazillion acre ranch, but nobody else.
 
Education, sure, but not conservation. I don't think that someone who isn't part of an actual conservation/research/educational program should own wildlife. No pets, no entertainment. The entire 'pet wildlife' industry (from trappers to breeders to buyers) is irresponsible- and it's not just PETA freaks saying that. Biologists, ecologists, and other experts point out the damage caused to local ecosystems (Examples: population decline in rainforests as a direct result of the pet trade, and Florida's ongoing problems with introduced species like pythons), the introduced diseases, breeding mills for the ~20% or so animals that weren't caught in the wild, the huge percentage (as high as 90% depending on species) of animals that end up dead during transport, the lack of regulation, all before we even get into the common problems in private ownership situations or the entertainment industry. That a few animals have managed to live longer in captivity just means they are the lucky ones.

This times ten. Even in the aquarium hobby, salt water mini reef aquarium hobbyists are evolving the hobby to depend on captive bred species of fish and crustacean that have naturally tiny territorial zones in the wild, and to grow tank raised corals and anemones only. Over capture and harvest of specimen fish, crustaceans, mollusks and coral reef chunks ("live rock") for the hobby has become a big enough problem that CITES restrictions are being enforced with vigor.  The world's reefs are dying out from temperature fluctuations and agricultural runoff fast enough. Adding in the additional destructive pressure from coral harvesting and animal capture is the icing on the cake, in a very bad way.

I live in Florida. The problem with released pet snakes has become a bigger every day nightmare than just the news stories illustrate. There's also the issue of tons of other exotic species that thrive in this climate and ecosystem. All of them from the exotic pet trade; tarantulas, poison dart frogs, toads, many species of snakes, parrots, monkeys, fish, fruit bats, etc. etc.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on February 17, 2014, 10:44:23 am
Here we go again! Take it to the Flame & Burn section!
http://fqa.digibase.ca/index.php?board=12.0

Now, there will be no more flame wars, only Best Political Cartoons.

The same holds true for the Worst Political Cartoons.

Quit flaming & trolling and stick with cartoon-posting! *SHEESH!*
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on February 17, 2014, 10:56:43 am
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: mellenORL on February 17, 2014, 11:00:28 am
Here we go again! Take it to the Flame & Burn section!
http://fqa.digibase.ca/index.php?board=12.0

Now, there will be no more flame wars, only Best Political Cartoons.

The same holds true for the Worst Political Cartoons.

Quit flaming & trolling and stick with cartoon-posting! *SHEESH!*
Who do you see as trolling or flaming? There is discussion going on, myself and feral are quite well versed in the topic of wild animal ownership issues, and both of us offered counter arguments (as in civil, calm, knowledge-based debate arguments) to Dongy's civil, calm argument in defense of "responsible exotic pet owners", which neither of us see as a realistic standpoint, but also neither feral or myself cast any aspersion or derision towards Dongy, at all. Please, Spuki, re-read that section of the threads. No one was making any personal attacks there.

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Awesome find, UP! Depending on which part of the world it's applied to, I think that both Huxley and Orwell got it right. PDK is a perfect distillation of "1984", with many nations being a milder mix of Orwellian dystopia. Huxley's vision certainly looks spot-on for trends in the first world nations.


Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: SpaceProg on February 17, 2014, 01:20:16 pm
Orwell and Huxley:  They were both right.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on February 17, 2014, 01:47:27 pm
Orwell and Huxley:  They were both right.
In different ways, yes.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: ironbite on February 17, 2014, 09:09:43 pm
Here we go again! Take it to the Flame & Burn section!
http://fqa.digibase.ca/index.php?board=12.0

Now, there will be no more flame wars, only Best Political Cartoons.

The same holds true for the Worst Political Cartoons.

Quit flaming & trolling and stick with cartoon-posting! *SHEESH!*

YOU ARE NOT A MOD STOP TRYING TO BE ONE!

And I'm not seeing any form of flame warring but a passionate discussion.  There's a difference.  Learn it.

Ironbite-jesus christ.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lt. Fred on February 17, 2014, 11:30:24 pm
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That said, they were both right; Orwell was just right for a place where you and I don't live. Orwell was also a much better writer than Huxley.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Captain Jack Harkness on February 18, 2014, 12:20:40 am
I'd argue that you're not helping the situation with your gigantic capitalized text, ironbite.  You're not really a mod either.  Also, I realize that me calling you out on that could almost be considered hypocritical.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on February 18, 2014, 12:21:59 am
I'd argue that you're not helping the situation with your gigantic capitalized text, ironbite.  You're not really a mod either.  Also, I realize that me calling you out on that could almost be considered hypocritical.
You've been here much longer than I have, Jack, so I'd like to ask you a question.  Was Ironbite always an asshole, or is this just a recent development?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ghoti on February 18, 2014, 12:27:26 am
DOCTAH! Oi, space man, you're needed here!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cerim Treascair on February 18, 2014, 12:55:02 am
I'd argue that you're not helping the situation with your gigantic capitalized text, ironbite.  You're not really a mod either.  Also, I realize that me calling you out on that could almost be considered hypocritical.
You've been here much longer than I have, Jack, so I'd like to ask you a question.  Was Ironbite always an asshole, or is this just a recent development?

I think the best way to sum up Ironbite is "He's a gigantic cybernetic asshole, but he's OUR gigantic cybernetic asshole"

... that being said, boy's got a hair trigger, but we all do in some fashion on here.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: The Right Honourable Mlle Antéchrist on February 18, 2014, 12:59:05 am
Here we go again! Take it to the Flame & Burn section!
http://fqa.digibase.ca/index.php?board=12.0

Now, there will be no more flame wars, only Best Political Cartoons.

The same holds true for the Worst Political Cartoons.

Quit flaming & trolling and stick with cartoon-posting! *SHEESH!*

Debates have always been a part of this forum, and have often resulted in some of the best discussions we've had. F&B is generally only for the ones that get way out of hand or for call-out threads.

(Yeah, I'm not a mod, but it would be nice to be able to have a disagreement in a thread without everyone sounding the alarms. We used to constantly have debates like this one without the need for F&B threads, and it was awesome.)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on February 18, 2014, 01:00:27 am
Here we go again! Take it to the Flame & Burn section!
http://fqa.digibase.ca/index.php?board=12.0

Now, there will be no more flame wars, only Best Political Cartoons.

The same holds true for the Worst Political Cartoons.

Quit flaming & trolling and stick with cartoon-posting! *SHEESH!*

Debates have always been a part of this forum, and have often resulted in some of the best discussions we've had. F&B is generally only for the ones thats get way out of hand or for call-out threads.
^This.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Sylvana on February 18, 2014, 01:32:08 am
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That said, they were both right; Orwell was just right for a place where you and I don't live.

The thing is, both approaches are not mutually exclusive. You can both attempt to hide the truth while drowning out what little that manages to slip past the censors with trivialities. Both happen on a regular basis in just about all countries to lesser or greater degrees.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: The Right Honourable Mlle Antéchrist on February 18, 2014, 01:51:08 am
Regarding exotic pets: Unless an animal has specifically been bred for domestication, its instincts simply can't be accommodated for when kept as a pet. Dogs, cats, some species of rodents, snakes, birds and so on -- they've all been adapted to life with humans through generations of breeding, which has altered their instincts & needs -- and even then, an owner must have a good understandable of the species in order to keep them happy and healthy. Because tigers, ocelots, etc. still maintain all of their wild instincts, regardless of whether they've ever actually lived in the wild, even the carefullest upbringing by a well-educated owner still can't alter what nature has given them. Exotic "pet" enthusiasts can abuse the word "domesticated" all they want, but at the end of the day, what they really have is a heavily stunted wild animal.

Which brings us to another issue: Once raised in captivity, these animals are unable to survive alone in the wild because they haven't learned the necessary skills & behaviors to hunt and/or protect themselves, yet still have needs that are extremely difficult to meet in captive environments. The result is that we have sanctuaries full of rejected exotic "pets" with major behavioral issues, health problems, and so on that can never truly be "cured" -- only managed by experienced animal handlers. They might live a little longer than they would in the wild (depending on how badly the owner screwed them up), but the reduced quality of life really isn't worth the trade-off, particularly when animals don't have any concept of lifespan, mortality and the future like humans do. Living a long life doesn't really mean dick to a creature that only lives in the present.

Worst of all, it also poses a serious risk to humans. Combine the potential aggressiveness stemming from the psychological and psychological problems captive exotic animals are prone to with a lack of natural fear of humans (most wild animals, even dangerous predators, tend towards "flight" responses around humans, since we're unfamiliar and represent an unknown level of risk), and you can easily end up with someone being seriously harmed or killed by your "pet".

ETA: Basically, if the only way to allow your "pet" to thrive is replicating a habitat that is completely unlike the environment humans live in, you're doing a disservice to both yourself and the animal by trying to keep it in captivity.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: SpaceProg on February 18, 2014, 01:52:13 am
DOCTAH! Oi, space man, you're needed here!

Mmmmmmn... Not just yet.  As long as what's being argued about is pertaining to a particular political cartoon, it should be okay.  Too many posts dedicated to it however, and I'll have to ask that it be taken to its own thread.

Oh yeah, and "Oi! earth girl! ... Guy!"
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ghoti on February 18, 2014, 02:06:58 am
DOCTAH! Oi, space man, you're needed here!

Mmmmmmn... Not just yet.  As long as what's being argued about is pertaining to a particular political cartoon, it should be okay.  Too many posts dedicated to it however, and I'll have to ask that it be taken to its own thread.

Oh yeah, and "Oi! earth girl! ... Guy!"
I was ringing you up because of the squabble between Spunki and Capt. Jack over who is and isn't a mod, but it seems to have fizzled out. While you're here, care for a cuppa? The kettle's just boiled.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: SpaceProg on February 18, 2014, 02:09:22 am
Sounds good to me.  Yeah it can get hot enough here to cause it to boil, I've noticed. ;)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lt. Fred on February 18, 2014, 03:01:18 am
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That said, they were both right; Orwell was just right for a place where you and I don't live.

The thing is, both approaches are not mutually exclusive. You can both attempt to hide the truth while drowning out what little that manages to slip past the censors with trivialities. Both happen on a regular basis in just about all countries to lesser or greater degrees.

In Orwell's world, though, the whole point is to prove that you can make people enjoy their objective misery in order to demonstrate power over them. The proles are basically controlled as in Brave New World.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on February 18, 2014, 11:14:15 am
I say we are in both
We do have bread and circuses and perpetual war.  However the government is not handing out the circuses. 
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: ironbite on February 18, 2014, 08:37:45 pm
I'd argue that you're not helping the situation with your gigantic capitalized text, ironbite.  You're not really a mod either.  Also, I realize that me calling you out on that could almost be considered hypocritical.
You've been here much longer than I have, Jack, so I'd like to ask you a question.  Was Ironbite always an asshole, or is this just a recent development?

No no no.  You misunderstand me.  I'm an angry asshole.

Ironbite-see the new Avatar.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on February 18, 2014, 09:24:01 pm
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Id82 on February 18, 2014, 09:42:19 pm
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on February 19, 2014, 02:19:22 am
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on February 19, 2014, 11:25:03 am
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on February 20, 2014, 12:20:47 pm
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Murdin on February 20, 2014, 02:22:26 pm
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I find it ironic that you, a libertarian, are pointing out the threat of a Brave New World style dystopia. The Western world's entertainment industry is an almost exclusively private sector. Its uncontrollable growth in prosperous countries is very much a feature of capitalism, not the result of any kind of state intervention. In fact, I can't imagine any concrete way to curtail it that doesn't involve giving the government even more control over our lives.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on February 20, 2014, 02:29:01 pm
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I find it ironic that you, a libertarian, are pointing out the threat of a Brave New World style dystopia. The Western world's entertainment industry is an almost exclusively private sector. Its uncontrollable growth in prosperous countries is very much a feature of capitalism, not the result of any kind of state intervention. In fact, I can't imagine any concrete way to curtail it that doesn't involve giving the government even more control over our lives.
1. I'm not a libertarian, I'm a moderate.  There's a difference.

2. I'm not blaming the government, I'm just saying it's a rather unsettling trend.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Vypernight on February 21, 2014, 04:20:32 pm
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Didn't someone here post proof that One million Moms is nothing more than a dozen old men anyway?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: mellenORL on February 21, 2014, 04:58:57 pm
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Didn't someone here post proof that One million Moms is nothing more than a dozen old men anyway?

Yup. Old thread segment about it.
http://fqa.digibase.ca/index.php?topic=4192.0 (http://fqa.digibase.ca/index.php?topic=4192.0)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on February 21, 2014, 11:11:26 pm
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ghoti on February 21, 2014, 11:14:58 pm
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on February 22, 2014, 07:37:22 pm
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lt. Fred on February 22, 2014, 09:11:08 pm
Fucking truth. Plus one billion.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on February 22, 2014, 11:07:48 pm
Fucking truth. Plus one billion.

It's kind of an unusual message for a Polandball comic too, seeing as many of them can be quite racist, sexist, anti-Semitic, etc. I remember it got to the point where "Anschluss" rape jokes (basically comparing Nazi Germany's land-grabs with rape) had to be banned for a while on r/polandball.
I know.  I was pleasantly surprised.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on February 23, 2014, 12:44:08 am
Well, they say that a broken clock is correct once a day.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on February 23, 2014, 12:52:03 am
Well, they say that a broken clock is correct once a day.
Not exactly.  They say a stopped clock is right twice a day, but that's just me being anal.

On the other hand, a clock one minute fast is never correct.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RavynousHunter on February 23, 2014, 02:46:45 am
Well, it depends on whether or not your clock uses 12-hour time or 24-hour time.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: I am lizard on February 23, 2014, 03:01:29 am
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on February 23, 2014, 03:21:14 am
Well, it depends on whether or not your clock uses 12-hour time or 24-hour time.

...If the broken clock uses 24-hour time it is probably digital in which case it either does not display any numbers or maybe blinks 0:00 or something. That would make it right once per day.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RavynousHunter on February 23, 2014, 09:25:48 am
Well, it depends on whether or not your clock uses 12-hour time or 24-hour time.

...If the broken clock uses 24-hour time it is probably digital in which case it either does not display any numbers or maybe blinks 0:00 or something. That would make it right once per day.

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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on February 23, 2014, 03:10:45 pm
Well, it depends on whether or not your clock uses 12-hour time or 24-hour time.

...If the broken clock uses 24-hour time it is probably digital in which case it either does not display any numbers or maybe blinks 0:00 or something. That would make it right once per day.

(http://i0.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/012/132/thatsthejoke.jpg)
Now do your Woody Allen impression.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on February 23, 2014, 04:48:55 pm
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on February 25, 2014, 12:34:37 pm
Well, they say that a broken clock is correct once a day.
Not exactly.  They say a stopped clock is right twice a day, but that's just me being anal.

On the other hand, a clock one minute fast is never correct.

Sorry about getting the saying wrong. I had a brain fart. But the gist stands. Thanks.  ;)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on February 25, 2014, 12:42:07 pm
Well, they say that a broken clock is correct once a day.
Not exactly.  They say a stopped clock is right twice a day, but that's just me being anal.

On the other hand, a clock one minute fast is never correct.

Sorry about getting the saying wrong. I had a brain fart. But the gist stands. Thanks.  ;)
It's okay.  And you're welcome.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on February 25, 2014, 12:43:23 pm
 :D
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on February 26, 2014, 10:25:45 pm
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: I am lizard on February 26, 2014, 10:55:36 pm
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I did a quick google search on nestle and, yeah that's some fucked up shit.

Apparently it's not as bad anymore, the company just utilizes lower regulations enforcement in lower class countries for personal gain, so it's all Ok!
DO NOT QUESTION THE FREE MARKET! THE FREE MARKET IS ARE GOD!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on February 26, 2014, 11:30:15 pm
The prick wants to end government management of water
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: I am lizard on February 26, 2014, 11:32:10 pm
The prick wants to end government management of water
Wait, really, WTF?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on February 27, 2014, 12:01:13 am
he wants it privatized and that water is not a human right
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: I am lizard on February 27, 2014, 12:10:46 am
he wants it privatized and that water is not a human right
Wait, the comic has an anti-business message, if he's an Ayn Rand fucker then wouldn't he think companies killing people for money is A OK?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on February 27, 2014, 12:23:16 am
he wants it privatized and that water is not a human right
Wait, the comic has an anti-business message, if he's an Ayn Rand fucker then wouldn't he think companies killing people for money is A OK?
Yeah, Kef, I have no clue where you got that from.  Care to enlighten us?

By the way, Lizard, you seem to have your definitions mixed up.  I don't see any anti-business message, just a legitimate criticism of exploitative practices.  If that's anti-business, then any criticism of the Taliban can be called Islamophobic.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: I am lizard on February 27, 2014, 12:26:15 am
he wants it privatized and that water is not a human right
...if he's an Ayn Rand fucker then wouldn't he think companies killing people for money is A OK?
Yeah, Kef, I have no clue where you got that from.  Care to enlighten us?
I was actually asking that question out of legit confusion.
I have no prior knowledge of the writers of the comic.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on February 27, 2014, 12:28:02 am
he wants it privatized and that water is not a human right
...if he's an Ayn Rand fucker then wouldn't he think companies killing people for money is A OK?
Yeah, Kef, I have no clue where you got that from.  Care to enlighten us?
I was actually asking that question out of legit confusion.
I have no prior knowledge of the writers of the comic.
So was I.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: I am lizard on February 27, 2014, 12:30:49 am
he wants it privatized and that water is not a human right
...if he's an Ayn Rand fucker then wouldn't he think companies killing people for money is A OK?
Yeah, Kef, I have no clue where you got that from.  Care to enlighten us?
I was actually asking that question out of legit confusion.
I have no prior knowledge of the writers of the comic.
So was I.
I said that encase this turns into a flame war.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on February 27, 2014, 12:32:45 am
he wants it privatized and that water is not a human right
...if he's an Ayn Rand fucker then wouldn't he think companies killing people for money is A OK?
Yeah, Kef, I have no clue where you got that from.  Care to enlighten us?
I was actually asking that question out of legit confusion.
I have no prior knowledge of the writers of the comic.
So was I.
I said that encase this turns into a flame war.
Taking precautions against that is fine by me.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on February 27, 2014, 01:45:46 am
I believe Kefka was talking about the head of Nestle, not about the cartoonist. Or that is how I understood it.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on February 27, 2014, 04:02:07 am
yeah   he backtracked but he's so pissed that people don't use it exclusively for drinking and bathing
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on February 27, 2014, 03:00:19 pm
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on February 27, 2014, 03:02:54 pm
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/t1/1795701_498379540268164_510452292_n.jpg)
Truth.  So much.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: I am lizard on February 27, 2014, 03:43:54 pm
yeah   he backtracked but he's so pissed that people don't use it exclusively for drinking and bathing
Damn, why'd he backtrack?
All he needed is a handlebar mustache and to kick some puppies and then he'd be the perfect cartoon villain
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Veras on February 27, 2014, 10:06:52 pm
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I don't want my children to see somebody eating a different sub!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RavynousHunter on February 28, 2014, 08:56:13 am
(Subway gay marriage picture)

I don't want my children to see somebody eating a different sub!

They might try that abhorrent meatball sub instead of the good, God-fearing turkey club!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: R. U. Sirius on February 28, 2014, 10:31:24 am
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I don't want my children to see somebody eating a different sub!

They might try that abhorrent meatball sub instead of the good, God-fearing turkey club!

Or even worse, that foul, Buddhism-pushing vegetarian sub!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: gyeonghwa on February 28, 2014, 12:07:14 pm
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Id82 on February 28, 2014, 01:11:00 pm
Fucking sick. Scott Lively gets my vote for the most despicable human being.
How does this one person have so much influence over human rights policies in foreign countries?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on February 28, 2014, 03:26:17 pm
Fucking sick. Scott Lively gets my vote for the most despicable human being.
How does this one person have so much influence over human rights policies in foreign countries?
I don't know.  But if somebody killed him, I'd call for the killer to be pardoned.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RavynousHunter on February 28, 2014, 03:52:46 pm
Fucking sick. Scott Lively gets my vote for the most despicable human being.
How does this one person have so much influence over human rights policies in foreign countries?
I don't know.  But if somebody killed him, I'd call for the killer to be pardoned.

Pardoned?  I'd give him a medal and a thousand of the world's cleanest, finest hookers...and enough good food to sink an aircraft carrier.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cataclysm on February 28, 2014, 05:10:20 pm
Fucking sick. Scott Lively gets my vote for the most despicable human being.
How does this one person have so much influence over human rights policies in foreign countries?
I don't know.  But if somebody killed him, I'd call for the killer to be pardoned.

Pardoned?  I'd give him a medal and a thousand of the world's cleanest, finest hookers...and enough good food to sink an aircraft carrier.

Can you actually give away all that?

Cuz if so... time to kill Lively!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RavynousHunter on February 28, 2014, 05:43:42 pm
Fucking sick. Scott Lively gets my vote for the most despicable human being.
How does this one person have so much influence over human rights policies in foreign countries?
I don't know.  But if somebody killed him, I'd call for the killer to be pardoned.

Pardoned?  I'd give him a medal and a thousand of the world's cleanest, finest hookers...and enough good food to sink an aircraft carrier.

Can you actually give away all that?

Cuz if so... time to kill Lively!

I can't, but I'm sure we could convince somebody to...donate to the cause, as it were.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: R. U. Sirius on February 28, 2014, 06:57:25 pm
I am so ashamed to share a last name with that guy. I REALLY hope we aren't related.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on February 28, 2014, 08:32:02 pm
That does it! Scott Lively is no longer just an annoying frummer jerk...he's pure evil incarnate and a Complete Monster!

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/CompleteMonster
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: I am lizard on March 01, 2014, 12:25:11 am
All for having Scott fed to wild Komodo Dragons say Aye!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on March 01, 2014, 12:53:38 am
All for having Scott fed to wild Komodo Dragons say Aye!

"AYE" x 7,000,000,000!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on March 02, 2014, 11:38:40 am
(http://americanindiantah.com/Mascots/canyouimage.gif)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Random Gal on March 02, 2014, 01:16:49 pm
I don't really have a problem with "Chiefs" or "Warriors" or "Braves," to be honest. That's not too different from calling one's team the "Spartans" or "ninjas" or evoking some other warrior culture.

"Indians" and "Redskins" though really are offensive, especially the latter.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on March 02, 2014, 01:25:45 pm
I don't really have a problem with "Chiefs" or "Warriors" or "Braves," to be honest. That's not too different from calling one's team the "Spartans" or "ninjas" or evoking some other warrior culture.

"Indians" and "Redskins" though really are offensive, especially the latter.
Agreed on both counts.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on March 02, 2014, 01:42:40 pm
The issue with the braves is they still do the tomahawk chop
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Feral Dog on March 02, 2014, 02:36:36 pm
All for having Scott fed to wild Komodo Dragons say Aye!

What did the Komodo Dragons do to deserve that?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Id82 on March 02, 2014, 03:06:43 pm
At least with a team like the Florida Seminoles, it's named after a specific tribe of native American's and not addressing the color of their skin.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on March 02, 2014, 07:02:08 pm
At least with a team like the Florida Seminoles, it's named after a specific tribe of native American's and not addressing the color of their skin.
Well, that depends.  If the Seminoles are fine with it, then so am I.  If not, then I think they ought to change it.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on March 02, 2014, 09:00:07 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/KpDyq4v.jpg)

Arguing about the economy doesn't help those in need.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Meshakhad on March 03, 2014, 01:39:57 pm
At least with a team like the Florida Seminoles, it's named after a specific tribe of native American's and not addressing the color of their skin.
Well, that depends.  If the Seminoles are fine with it, then so am I.  If not, then I think they ought to change it.

They are fine with it. A lot of people have suggested the Redskins make a similar deal with a local tribe. Maybe the Washington Potomacs?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on March 03, 2014, 01:43:10 pm
At least with a team like the Florida Seminoles, it's named after a specific tribe of native American's and not addressing the color of their skin.
Well, that depends.  If the Seminoles are fine with it, then so am I.  If not, then I think they ought to change it.

They are fine with it. A lot of people have suggested the Redskins make a similar deal with a local tribe. Maybe the Washington Potomacs?
I think that might be a good idea.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: I am lizard on March 03, 2014, 09:32:08 pm
Spoilered for size:

(click to show/hide)
God, why is their still a conflict their?
I suppose it's a self fueling cycle of violence.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: R. U. Sirius on March 03, 2014, 09:37:18 pm
It's a great message, but I found the artwork bad to the point of distracting, unfortunately.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: I am lizard on March 03, 2014, 10:07:32 pm
(http://media-cache-cd0.pinimg.com/736x/50/fd/e8/50fde87d7ad378242dbdb258e172458b.jpg)4
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/7219bebd92c255752427f6b5d7789c0a/tumblr_mzii092kuq1rjojxvo1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on March 04, 2014, 10:03:53 am
At least with a team like the Florida Seminoles, it's named after a specific tribe of native American's and not addressing the color of their skin.
Well, that depends.  If the Seminoles are fine with it, then so am I.  If not, then I think they ought to change it.

They are fine with it. A lot of people have suggested the Redskins make a similar deal with a local tribe. Maybe the Washington Potomacs?
I think that might be a good idea.

Seconded. If you're going to have an Indigamerican theme for your sports team, use an actual name of the local Aboriginal Nation with full cooperation of said members.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on March 04, 2014, 11:52:42 am
(http://www.whatrobdoes.com/comics//comics/2011-05-25%20white%20guilt'd%204%20comic.jpg)

(http://www.whatrobdoes.com/comics/comics/2012-04-09%20white%20guilt'd%20VII%20comic.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: I am lizard on March 04, 2014, 09:42:18 pm
(https://24.media.tumblr.com/850e23b3ada1d48563f8949f47a93e66/tumblr_mmiso45TKH1qji9qro1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: kefkaownsall on March 05, 2014, 10:44:52 am
About the IDF one I don't think they would like an Eithiopian
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on March 05, 2014, 10:49:02 am
(http://media.cagle.com/107/2013/12/02/140859_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on March 06, 2014, 07:48:07 pm
(http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/702/680/199.jpg)
You want equality, fine.  I can support that.  But build yourself up, don't tear others down (at least not unless they've done something to deserve it).
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Dakota Bob on March 06, 2014, 08:47:37 pm
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lt. Fred on March 09, 2014, 12:14:24 am
Spoilered for size:

(click to show/hide)
God, why is their still a conflict their?
I suppose it's a self fueling cycle of violence.

Self-interest, just like most wars.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Thejebusfire on March 14, 2014, 02:04:28 am
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/8ad1056a58d4d6e0c1be8d38cdcce3cb/tumblr_n1aq0kwWNo1qz4sr8o1_500.png)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cataclysm on March 14, 2014, 04:53:59 pm
(https://scontent-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc1/t1/1660281_755491707802937_1287028665_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ironchew on March 14, 2014, 06:05:29 pm
Who the hell is a "rightful owner"? I'd like to see Libertarians square the ethics of private property, not to mention the several advantages afforded to all of us by the public domain, before they take it as an axiom that they need to get their land back from the ebil gub'ment.

EDIT: That map just screams, "The GOP is losing more and more statewide elections, so let's redraw the states!"
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on March 14, 2014, 07:10:14 pm
Who the hell is a "rightful owner"? I'd like to see Libertarians square the ethics of private property, not to mention the several advantages afforded to all of us by the public domain, before they take it as an axiom that they need to get their land back from the ebil gub'ment.

EDIT: That map just screams, "The GOP is losing more and more statewide elections, so let's redraw the states!"

To me, it's screaming "taking the Libertarians idea to it's logical conclusion" and giving it back to the IndigAmericans.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ironchew on March 15, 2014, 05:28:13 pm
Who the hell is a "rightful owner"? I'd like to see Libertarians square the ethics of private property, not to mention the several advantages afforded to all of us by the public domain, before they take it as an axiom that they need to get their land back from the ebil gub'ment.

EDIT: That map just screams, "The GOP is losing more and more statewide elections, so let's redraw the states!"

To me, it's screaming "taking the Libertarians idea to it's logical conclusion" and giving it back to the IndigAmericans.

They'd probably have to give it back to populations that no longer exist. The "first nations" have changed over the past 20,000 years.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on March 16, 2014, 05:25:36 pm
(http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/aeN29Yq_700b_v2.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on March 16, 2014, 10:27:45 pm
(http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/aeN29Yq_700b_v2.jpg)

I've seen this. Best cartoon, ever.  :)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: I am lizard on March 16, 2014, 10:39:30 pm
(http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/aeN29Yq_700b_v2.jpg)
God prefers pretty cool atheist to christian douchebags.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on March 16, 2014, 10:42:33 pm
(http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/aeN29Yq_700b_v2.jpg)
God prefers pretty cool atheist to christian douchebags.
I agree.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on March 16, 2014, 11:39:50 pm
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-ooKpgTbVah4/Tz6oTwWth4I/AAAAAAAAA4Y/jthYvyQOWuo/s1600/cartoonwest.jpg)
For a member of the WBC, obscurity would be a fate worse than death.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Damen on March 17, 2014, 12:07:52 am
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-ooKpgTbVah4/Tz6oTwWth4I/AAAAAAAAA4Y/jthYvyQOWuo/s1600/cartoonwest.jpg)
For a member of the WBC, obscurity would be a fate worse than death.

I love that it's marked Tulsa World. ;D
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on March 17, 2014, 10:38:04 am
(http://blogs.thetimes-tribune.com/johncole/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/030511newcoletoon.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: R. U. Sirius on March 17, 2014, 03:13:48 pm
(http://blogs.thetimes-tribune.com/johncole/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/030511newcoletoon.jpg)

I'm unsure what this one is trying to say. Are they saying that it should be obvious WBC is covered by the First Amendment, or that it's stupid for the WBC to be covered by the First Amendment?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Veras on March 17, 2014, 03:57:33 pm
That it's obvious that they're covered by the First Amendment.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: mellenORL on March 17, 2014, 04:30:08 pm
That it's obvious that they're covered by the First Amendment.
And that Phelps has no brains...
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on March 19, 2014, 12:40:46 pm
(http://media.cagle.com/46/2014/03/10/145521_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on March 21, 2014, 10:35:14 pm
(http://bloximages.newyork1.vip.townnews.com/tulsaworld.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/b/b0/bb01101c-b0f4-11e3-ad8e-001a4bcf6878/532c31334cfb0.image.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on March 22, 2014, 12:20:38 pm
(http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/720/247/d5d.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on March 23, 2014, 05:11:20 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/C7zOFfu.gif)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ghoti on March 23, 2014, 06:41:08 pm
(http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/720/247/d5d.jpg)
The dude's face in the first panel just makes it.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Veras on March 23, 2014, 08:08:17 pm
(http://www.greenberg-art.com/.Toons/.Toons,%20social/qqxsg2ndAmendment.gif)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Yla on March 24, 2014, 09:06:24 am
(http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/720/247/d5d.jpg)
He says 'Food Fight' in the original (http://www.pbfcomics.com/182/), but this remake is not less funny. :D
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on March 24, 2014, 10:36:39 am
(http://media.cagle.com/53/2014/03/19/145968_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on March 24, 2014, 11:14:09 am
(http://media.cagle.com/53/2014/03/19/145968_600.jpg)

Then take into account the likely higher medical bills for the purebred over the mutt.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on March 24, 2014, 11:15:09 am
(http://media.cagle.com/53/2014/03/19/145968_600.jpg)

Then take into account the likely higher medical bills for the purebred over the mutt.
Dog breeding is essentially the perfect rebuttal to any argument against "race-mixing".
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: The Illusive Man on March 24, 2014, 10:08:49 pm
Dog breeding is essentially the perfect rebuttal to any argument against "race-mixing".
This implies that the other person has at least a basic understanding of genetics.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on March 25, 2014, 12:42:28 am
(http://i.imgur.com/muJoZ.gif)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: fancy_kitten on March 26, 2014, 03:52:43 pm
(http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/720/247/d5d.jpg)
He says 'Food Fight' in the original (http://www.pbfcomics.com/182/), but this remake is not less funny. :D

If I could draw I'd make a comic where a rich supermodel walks into a neighborhood where the most expensive thing anyone can afford is McDonald's and go "Poor people can't be fat!  Get off of Tumblr and get jobs if you don't like it!!!  Don't like the job you have now?  Why weren't you born into a rich family like me?!  Go to school!  College is only 80,000 dollars a year, any hard-working American should be able to earn that in a week!"
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on March 26, 2014, 07:31:36 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/VdUcmiu.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: KZN02 on March 26, 2014, 08:07:50 pm
Given April Fool's Day coming soon, I won't be surprised if we find Fred Phleps' will or something that will say he was just trolling us all to teach homophobes a lesson.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lt. Fred on March 26, 2014, 08:11:07 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/VdUcmiu.jpg)

Has his funeral happened yet? If it hasn't, this exact thing needs to happen at it.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Alehksunos on March 26, 2014, 10:23:37 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/muJoZ.gif)

The artist of this cartoon stole Bill Watterson's artwork style. lol

Note how the shoveler looks like an adult Calvin.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: I am lizard on March 26, 2014, 10:33:41 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/muJoZ.gif)

The artist of this cartoon stole Bill Watterson's artwork style. lol

Note how the shoveler looks like an adult Calvin.
Which is funny, cus his outlook on life is polar opposite of Calvin's.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on March 27, 2014, 12:58:50 am
(http://i.imgur.com/muJoZ.gif)

The artist of this cartoon stole Bill Watterson's artwork style. lol

Note how the shoveler looks like an adult Calvin.
Which is funny, cus his outlook on life is polar opposite of Calvin's.

How? Calvin may have been cynical and loved sarcasm but isn't that kids "rebellion" against the teacher and self thinking attitude something that he also had as a kid so seeing the kid do that would have probably made adult Calvin happy.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: I am lizard on March 27, 2014, 01:19:34 am
(http://i.imgur.com/muJoZ.gif)

The artist of this cartoon stole Bill Watterson's artwork style. lol

Note how the shoveler looks like an adult Calvin.
Which is funny, cus his outlook on life is polar opposite of Calvin's.

How? Calvin may have been cynical and loved sarcasm but isn't that kids "rebellion" against the teacher and self thinking attitude something that he also had as a kid so seeing the kid do that would have probably made adult Calvin happy.
That's the kid, the adult in the strip is... ah, no one but me and OP reads the strip, do they?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on March 27, 2014, 01:25:58 am
(http://i.imgur.com/muJoZ.gif)

The artist of this cartoon stole Bill Watterson's artwork style. lol

Note how the shoveler looks like an adult Calvin.
Which is funny, cus his outlook on life is polar opposite of Calvin's.

How? Calvin may have been cynical and loved sarcasm but isn't that kids "rebellion" against the teacher and self thinking attitude something that he also had as a kid so seeing the kid do that would have probably made adult Calvin happy.
That's the kid, the adult in the strip is... ah, no one but me and OP reads the strip, do they?
You misunderstood me. I meant that what that kid did would probably make Calvin happy, and therefore the snowshoveler's reaction was not off from how I assume adult Calvin would react to that situation.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: I am lizard on March 27, 2014, 10:43:20 am
(http://i.imgur.com/muJoZ.gif)

The artist of this cartoon stole Bill Watterson's artwork style. lol

Note how the shoveler looks like an adult Calvin.
Which is funny, cus his outlook on life is polar opposite of Calvin's.

How? Calvin may have been cynical and loved sarcasm but isn't that kids "rebellion" against the teacher and self thinking attitude something that he also had as a kid so seeing the kid do that would have probably made adult Calvin happy.
That's the kid, the adult in the strip is... ah, no one but me and OP reads the strip, do they?
You misunderstood me. I meant that what that kid did would probably make Calvin happy, and therefore the snowshoveler's reaction was not off from how I assume adult Calvin would react to that situation.
I was referring to the shoveler though.
He's a total optimist who always trys to see the best in others.

Sucker.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Yla on March 27, 2014, 10:59:09 am
(http://i.imgur.com/muJoZ.gif)

The artist of this cartoon stole Bill Watterson's artwork style. lol

Note how the shoveler looks like an adult Calvin.
Which is funny, cus his outlook on life is polar opposite of Calvin's.

How? Calvin may have been cynical and loved sarcasm but isn't that kids "rebellion" against the teacher and self thinking attitude something that he also had as a kid so seeing the kid do that would have probably made adult Calvin happy.
That's the kid, the adult in the strip is... ah, no one but me and OP reads the strip, do they?
You misunderstood me. I meant that what that kid did would probably make Calvin happy, and therefore the snowshoveler's reaction was not off from how I assume adult Calvin would react to that situation.
I was referring to the shoveler though.
He's a total optimist who always trys to see the best in others.

Sucker.
Can you two nerds stop speaking in placeholders and tell us what this strip is called, so we ignorant people can look it up? Cause now I'm interested.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on March 27, 2014, 11:26:12 am
(http://i.imgur.com/muJoZ.gif)

The artist of this cartoon stole Bill Watterson's artwork style. lol

Note how the shoveler looks like an adult Calvin.
Which is funny, cus his outlook on life is polar opposite of Calvin's.

How? Calvin may have been cynical and loved sarcasm but isn't that kids "rebellion" against the teacher and self thinking attitude something that he also had as a kid so seeing the kid do that would have probably made adult Calvin happy.
That's the kid, the adult in the strip is... ah, no one but me and OP reads the strip, do they?
You misunderstood me. I meant that what that kid did would probably make Calvin happy, and therefore the snowshoveler's reaction was not off from how I assume adult Calvin would react to that situation.
I was referring to the shoveler though.
He's a total optimist who always trys to see the best in others.

Sucker.
Can you two nerds stop speaking in placeholders and tell us what this strip is called, so we ignorant people can look it up? Cause now I'm interested.
Frazz.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on March 27, 2014, 12:44:54 pm
Frazz? Gotta check it out on GoComics.

Not only does the older kid with the shovel look like an older Calvin but the little kid looks like a black Calvin. So cute.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: I am lizard on March 27, 2014, 01:10:17 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/muJoZ.gif)

The artist of this cartoon stole Bill Watterson's artwork style. lol

Note how the shoveler looks like an adult Calvin.
Which is funny, cus his outlook on life is polar opposite of Calvin's.

How? Calvin may have been cynical and loved sarcasm but isn't that kids "rebellion" against the teacher and self thinking attitude something that he also had as a kid so seeing the kid do that would have probably made adult Calvin happy.
That's the kid, the adult in the strip is... ah, no one but me and OP reads the strip, do they?
You misunderstood me. I meant that what that kid did would probably make Calvin happy, and therefore the snowshoveler's reaction was not off from how I assume adult Calvin would react to that situation.
I was referring to the shoveler though.
He's a total optimist who always trys to see the best in others.

Sucker.
Can you two nerds stop speaking in placeholders and tell us what this strip is called, so we ignorant people can look it up? Cause now I'm interested.
Frazhttp://www.gocomics.com/frazz (http://www.gocomics.com/frazz)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on March 27, 2014, 01:39:12 pm
Took a gander at Frazz & even checked it out on TVTropes. Sounds like a really neat "Spiritual Successor" to Calvin & Hobbes. Very intelligent, unique, well-written & funny with lots of intellectual references.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on March 27, 2014, 11:43:21 pm
(http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/724/410/126.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on March 28, 2014, 05:24:21 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/VEZPgrc.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/1tViYaC.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/VieVEdV.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RavynousHunter on March 28, 2014, 07:31:16 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/VEZPgrc.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/1tViYaC.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/VieVEdV.jpg)

Tumblr in 3 images, nice.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: I am lizard on March 28, 2014, 07:42:46 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/VEZPgrc.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/1tViYaC.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/VieVEdV.jpg)
Err, I semi-agree with the first statement, she's not being disrepectful per-see, but she seams to be doing that thing americans do where we treat every other culture like it's all mystic and bullshit.

So not racist, just stupid and annoying.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on March 28, 2014, 07:50:44 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/VEZPgrc.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/1tViYaC.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/VieVEdV.jpg)
Err, I semi-agree with the first statement, she's not being disrepectful per-see, but she seams to be doing that thing americans do where we treat every other culture like it's all mystic and bullshit.

So not racist, just stupid and annoying.
Agreed.  Still, the answer is not to scream "appropriation".
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: I am lizard on March 28, 2014, 07:53:07 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/VEZPgrc.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/1tViYaC.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/VieVEdV.jpg)
Err, I semi-agree with the first statement, she's not being disrepectful per-see, but she seams to be doing that thing americans do where we treat every other culture like it's all mystic and bullshit.

So not racist, just stupid and annoying.
Agreed.  Still, the answer is not to scream "appropriation".
Hey, I just discovered a legitimate version of "Cultural Appropriation".
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on March 28, 2014, 08:00:04 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/VEZPgrc.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/1tViYaC.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/VieVEdV.jpg)
Err, I semi-agree with the first statement, she's not being disrepectful per-see, but she seams to be doing that thing americans do where we treat every other culture like it's all mystic and bullshit.

So not racist, just stupid and annoying.
Agreed.  Still, the answer is not to scream "appropriation".
Hey, I just discovered a legitimate version of "Cultural Appropriation".
Qué?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: I am lizard on March 28, 2014, 08:05:31 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/VEZPgrc.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/1tViYaC.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/VieVEdV.jpg)
Err, I semi-agree with the first statement, she's not being disrepectful per-see, but she seams to be doing that thing americans do where we treat every other culture like it's all mystic and bullshit.

So not racist, just stupid and annoying.
Agreed.  Still, the answer is not to scream "appropriation".
Hey, I just discovered a legitimate version of "Cultural Appropriation".
Qué?
People thinking anything foreign like something super amazing. E.G. people getting words like "Peace" and "Love" in chinese tattooed on them.
It's not racist or offensive, but it does make you look like a major tool. ]
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on March 28, 2014, 08:12:06 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/VEZPgrc.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/1tViYaC.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/VieVEdV.jpg)
Err, I semi-agree with the first statement, she's not being disrepectful per-see, but she seams to be doing that thing americans do where we treat every other culture like it's all mystic and bullshit.

So not racist, just stupid and annoying.
Agreed.  Still, the answer is not to scream "appropriation".
Hey, I just discovered a legitimate version of "Cultural Appropriation".
Qué?
People thinking anything foreign like something super amazing. E.G. people getting words like "Peace" and "Love" in chinese tattooed on them.
It's not racist or offensive, but it does make you look like a major tool. ]
Okay.

Speaking of which, I heard a story about a guy who got engaged.  To celebrate, he got a tattoo that read "one love".  Or so he thought.  As it turned out, it actually said "love hurts".
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: I am lizard on March 28, 2014, 08:16:34 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/VEZPgrc.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/1tViYaC.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/VieVEdV.jpg)
Err, I semi-agree with the first statement, she's not being disrepectful per-see, but she seams to be doing that thing americans do where we treat every other culture like it's all mystic and bullshit.

So not racist, just stupid and annoying.
Agreed.  Still, the answer is not to scream "appropriation".
Hey, I just discovered a legitimate version of "Cultural Appropriation".
Qué?
People thinking anything foreign like something super amazing. E.G. people getting words like "Peace" and "Love" in chinese tattooed on them.
It's not racist or offensive, but it does make you look like a major tool. ]
Okay.

Speaking of which, I heard a story about a guy who got engaged.  To celebrate, he got a tattoo that read "one love".  Or so he thought.  As it turned out, it actually said "love hurts".
I wonder if it was intentional or the guy who gave him the tattoo was bad at chinese.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on March 28, 2014, 08:18:24 pm
I wonder if it was intentional or the guy who gave him the tattoo was bad at chinese.
Probably the latter.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: MadCatTLX on March 28, 2014, 08:48:05 pm
If you all hadn't heard, since tattoos became more popular in China, they're now getting random English words tattooed and on t-shirts and shit.

(http://i.imgur.com/5Xwzq8R.jpg)

(http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01386/tattoo_1386361c.jpg)

(http://blog.hostelbookers.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/America-e1342176697435.jpg)

Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Damen on March 28, 2014, 09:26:12 pm
People thinking anything foreign like something super amazing. E.G. people getting words like "Peace" and "Love" in chinese tattooed on them.
It's not racist or offensive, but it does make you look like a major tool. ]

(http://i.imgur.com/Aq5EI.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on March 28, 2014, 10:32:29 pm
People thinking anything foreign like something super amazing. E.G. people getting words like "Peace" and "Love" in chinese tattooed on them.
It's not racist or offensive, but it does make you look like a major tool. ]

(http://i.imgur.com/Aq5EI.jpg)
It seems ignorance has no boundaries.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: I am lizard on March 28, 2014, 11:02:20 pm
People thinking anything foreign like something super amazing. E.G. people getting words like "Peace" and "Love" in chinese tattooed on them.
It's not racist or offensive, but it does make you look like a major tool. ]

(http://i.imgur.com/Aq5EI.jpg)
It seems ignorance has no boundaries.
Oh totally.
Granted it's really prevalent in america because of how much stupid we produce.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on March 28, 2014, 11:04:35 pm
People thinking anything foreign like something super amazing. E.G. people getting words like "Peace" and "Love" in chinese tattooed on them.
It's not racist or offensive, but it does make you look like a major tool. ]

(http://i.imgur.com/Aq5EI.jpg)
It seems ignorance has no boundaries.
Oh totally.
Granted it's really prevalent in america because of how much stupid we produce.
I don't think any country has an excess of stupid.  It's just that the idiots tend to scream the loudest.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: I am lizard on March 28, 2014, 11:17:42 pm
People thinking anything foreign like something super amazing. E.G. people getting words like "Peace" and "Love" in chinese tattooed on them.
It's not racist or offensive, but it does make you look like a major tool. ]

(http://i.imgur.com/Aq5EI.jpg)
It seems ignorance has no boundaries.
Oh totally.
Granted it's really prevalent in america because of how much stupid we produce.
I don't think any country has an excess of stupid.  It's just that the idiots tend to scream the loudest.
A school system funded by pocket change doesn't help though.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on March 28, 2014, 11:21:58 pm
People thinking anything foreign like something super amazing. E.G. people getting words like "Peace" and "Love" in chinese tattooed on them.
It's not racist or offensive, but it does make you look like a major tool. ]

(http://i.imgur.com/Aq5EI.jpg)
It seems ignorance has no boundaries.
Oh totally.
Granted it's really prevalent in america because of how much stupid we produce.
I don't think any country has an excess of stupid.  It's just that the idiots tend to scream the loudest.
A school system funded by pocket change doesn't help though.
It depends on where you live.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RavynousHunter on March 29, 2014, 09:05:47 am
If you all hadn't heard, since tattoos became more popular in China, they're now getting random English words tattooed and on t-shirts and shit.

(http://i.imgur.com/5Xwzq8R.jpg)

Is it odd that I want the "WHAT," "CONDENSATION," and "BRAKE" shirts?

People thinking anything foreign like something super amazing. E.G. people getting words like "Peace" and "Love" in chinese tattooed on them.
It's not racist or offensive, but it does make you look like a major tool. ]

(http://i.imgur.com/Aq5EI.jpg)

Sweet jesus, I damn near spit out my cereal laughing!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on March 30, 2014, 01:41:02 pm
I see it like this, if you are going to borrow something from another culture, be sure to understand the meaning of it.

For example, take the person who wears a T-shirt with Kaali-Mata on it.

SMART PERSON: "This is Kaali, the Surpreme Godhead in feminine form as the Lady of death, time, transformation & enlightenment. She's the benevolent, fierce but loving mother who destroys all ignorance & wickedness within & without and is the equal partner & spouse to Lord Shiva."

STUPID PERSON: "I got this shirt cuz it's like totally 'metal' with this scary blue-skinned naked demon babe!" OR "I got this Kaali shirt cuz she's the ultimate man-stomping RadFem cuz men are yucky & she kicks men's ass!" OR "I have this Kaali shirt cuz she's a SUPER-DEMON! HAIL SATAN!"

And I agree about that goofiness with writing random words in an unfamiliar language/script.


Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ironchew on March 30, 2014, 03:00:08 pm
It's doubtful that most people even in their native culture know the meaning of all the artifacts they surround themselves with.

I see it like this. If someone else borrows something from another culture, I don't have to get a social justice stick up my ass about it.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on March 30, 2014, 03:22:34 pm
It's doubtful that most people even in their native culture know the meaning of all the artifacts they surround themselves with.

I see it like this. If someone else borrows something from another culture, I don't have to get a social justice stick up my ass about it.
Agreed.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on April 01, 2014, 08:24:37 am
(http://leftycartoons.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/unemployment-measurement.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 01, 2014, 08:46:06 am
(http://leftycartoons.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/unemployment-measurement.jpg)
There are lies, damned lies and statistics.
- Mark Twain
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on April 01, 2014, 02:30:15 pm
(http://leftycartoons.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/unemployment-measurement.jpg)
There are lies, damned lies and statistics.
- Mark Twain

I wonder what those guys would consider "Employed". I'd hate to know. Probably involves guys who look like them.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 01, 2014, 02:41:37 pm
Now, for attacks on neo-Confederates:

(http://bshea1111.edublogs.org/files/2008/12/cartoon-kkk-and-heritage1.jpg)

(http://bshea1111.edublogs.org/files/2008/12/nazi-flag2.gif)

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lov7x8WF561qizl0so1_500.gif)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on April 01, 2014, 03:14:01 pm
Now, for attacks on neo-Confederates:

(http://bshea1111.edublogs.org/files/2008/12/cartoon-kkk-and-heritage1.jpg)

(http://bshea1111.edublogs.org/files/2008/12/nazi-flag2.gif)

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lov7x8WF561qizl0so1_500.gif)

Love it especially the last one! *BUUUURN!* ;D
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: mellenORL on April 01, 2014, 03:43:06 pm
Even though most non-Southerners don't realize it, Florida's state flag is still based on a Confederate battle flag. Nearly all the Southern state flags are based on civil war era Confederate flags. Just not on the famous "stars and bars" flag that everybody knows. It's all hidden-in-plain-sight, sneaky bullshit that makes the bigots happy.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on April 01, 2014, 04:01:29 pm
Even though most non-Southerners don't realize it, Florida's state flag is still based on a Confederate battle flag. Nearly all the Southern state flags are based on civil war era Confederate flags. Just not on the famous "stars and bars" flag that everybody knows. It's all hidden-in-plain-sight, sneaky bullshit that makes the bigots happy.

Don't forget the Confederate battle flag on the grounds of South Carolina's State House. Despite having twelve schools in the NCAA's Division I in the state (Charleston Southern, Clemson, Coastal Carolina, College of Charleston, Furman, Presbyterian, South Carolina, South Carolina State, South Carolina Upstate, The Citadel, Winthrop and Wofford), the NCAA does not allow championship games to be hosted in the state due to the presence of that flag.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: I am lizard on April 01, 2014, 09:30:30 pm
It's doubtful that most people even in their native culture know the meaning of all the artifacts they surround themselves with.

I see it like this. If someone else borrows something from another culture, I don't have to get a social justice stick up my ass about it.
my problem is people either imagine everything about a culture is magic and perfect (weebadoos, Anglophiles)

Or think owning stuff from a different culture makes you one of them.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 01, 2014, 10:40:00 pm
Even though most non-Southerners don't realize it, Florida's state flag is still based on a Confederate battle flag. Nearly all the Southern state flags are based on civil war era Confederate flags. Just not on the famous "stars and bars" flag that everybody knows. It's all hidden-in-plain-sight, sneaky bullshit that makes the bigots happy.

Don't forget the Confederate battle flag on the grounds of South Carolina's State House. Despite having twelve schools in the NCAA's Division I in the state (Charleston Southern, Clemson, Coastal Carolina, College of Charleston, Furman, Presbyterian, South Carolina, South Carolina State, South Carolina Upstate, The Citadel, Winthrop and Wofford), the NCAA does not allow championship games to be hosted in the state due to the presence of that flag.
Yeah, I found a pretty good cartoon about that.

(http://oi57.tinypic.com/2qc12mt.jpg)

Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RavynousHunter on April 02, 2014, 07:25:44 am
Even though most non-Southerners don't realize it, Florida's state flag is still based on a Confederate battle flag. Nearly all the Southern state flags are based on civil war era Confederate flags. Just not on the famous "stars and bars" flag that everybody knows. It's all hidden-in-plain-sight, sneaky bullshit that makes the bigots happy.

(http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100214030842/southpark/images/0/0f/Picture_kjhj.png)

Because I'm a huge arse.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 02, 2014, 08:27:33 am
(http://i.imgur.com/ncpJ8ja.gif)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 04, 2014, 03:25:26 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/NuQsGHy.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: I am lizard on April 04, 2014, 05:37:06 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/NuQsGHy.jpg)
If Jesus were alive today the republicans would call him a liberal socialist Marxist terrorist.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 04, 2014, 06:23:52 pm
Even though most non-Southerners don't realize it, Florida's state flag is still based on a Confederate battle flag. Nearly all the Southern state flags are based on civil war era Confederate flags. Just not on the famous "stars and bars" flag that everybody knows. It's all hidden-in-plain-sight, sneaky bullshit that makes the bigots happy.

(http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100214030842/southpark/images/0/0f/Picture_kjhj.png)

Because I'm a huge arse.
What episode is that from?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cataclysm on April 04, 2014, 06:38:47 pm
Chef Goes Nanners
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 04, 2014, 08:36:23 pm
Chef Goes Nanners
Thanks.  I'll have to rewatch it.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 06, 2014, 05:50:00 pm
(http://media.cagle.com/77/2014/04/04/146745_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Random Gal on April 06, 2014, 09:15:36 pm
(http://www.smbc-comics.com/comics/20120228.gif)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: R. U. Sirius on April 08, 2014, 10:37:59 am
(http://chuckleaduck.com/comics/2013-01-10CAD328Gays.jpg)

Not exactly a political cartoon, but I thought it fit the thread.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 08, 2014, 11:28:26 am
(http://chuckleaduck.com/comics/2013-01-10CAD328Gays.jpg)

Not exactly a political cartoon, but I thought it fit the thread.
That's exactly why I started reading Chuckle A Duck.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 09, 2014, 05:06:05 pm
(http://media.cagle.com/23/2014/04/03/146736_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: I am lizard on April 09, 2014, 05:08:21 pm
Flame time.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cerim Treascair on April 09, 2014, 08:28:54 pm
Flame time.

No no, that cartoon's dead on.  That's pretty much exactly how things happened.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Canadian Mojo on April 09, 2014, 09:10:03 pm
Flame time.

No no, that cartoon's dead on.  That's pretty much exactly how things happened.
It's hardly the first time someone has tried to corner the market using their political power. Most of the time they are smart enough to rig is so what they are doing isn't technically illegal.  ::)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: I am lizard on April 09, 2014, 09:21:58 pm
Flame time.

No no, that cartoon's dead on.  That's pretty much exactly how things happened.
Wait, oh yeah, that guy.

I thought it was about some obscure scandal.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 10, 2014, 03:41:29 pm
(http://media.cagle.com/205/2014/04/09/146929_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cataclysm on April 11, 2014, 02:25:17 pm
(https://scontent-a-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/t1.0-9/972328_605833756175339_7555151194498309080_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 11, 2014, 07:55:03 pm
(http://liberallogic101.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/1014303_10152031365250896_2969133690484382130_n-500x403.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lt. Fred on April 11, 2014, 08:33:23 pm
(http://liberallogic101.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/1014303_10152031365250896_2969133690484382130_n-500x403.jpg)

"IRS" of course being code for a fake scandal manufactured by, in part, Liberallogic.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 11, 2014, 08:36:45 pm
(http://liberallogic101.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/1014303_10152031365250896_2969133690484382130_n-500x403.jpg)

"IRS" of course being code for a fake scandal manufactured by, in part, Liberallogic.
Whoops, accidentally clicked the wrong picture.  My bad.

Sorry, I've had a few drinks to celebrate my promotion.

(http://www.aanblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Gay-Marriage-Threat.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: I am lizard on April 11, 2014, 11:01:42 pm
(http://liberallogic101.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/1014303_10152031365250896_2969133690484382130_n-500x403.jpg)

"IRS" of course being code for a fake scandal manufactured by, in part, Liberallogic.
Replace it with "NSA" and it works.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on April 12, 2014, 02:02:57 am
Technically, even that is only so much of Obama's fault.  He didn't start it, if I recall correctly.

He is however continuing it, and that makes me sad.  Then again, I'm not up there hearing what his advisors tell him.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: mellenORL on April 12, 2014, 08:59:01 am
He's no hero. He's a very intelligent man. After all, he made it into Harvard Law School and Law Review, which only the top tier students manage to do. He knew what his advisors were saying, and is well informed of consequences. All pols are compromised when it comes to authority and how they wield it, and demonstrate a great loss of moral authority in that process. Obama is much better than a lot of pols, but that isn't really saying much when you view him in context of ethics as they are understood outside of politics.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 12, 2014, 07:13:08 pm
(http://oi57.tinypic.com/1zmz48y.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ghoti on April 12, 2014, 09:13:54 pm
(http://oi57.tinypic.com/1zmz48y.jpg)
... You rang?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 12, 2014, 11:37:38 pm
(http://oi57.tinypic.com/1zmz48y.jpg)
... You rang?
Actually, yes.  Part of the reason I posted this is because it reminded me of you.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 13, 2014, 12:02:35 pm
(http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/733/504/496.gif)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: mellenORL on April 13, 2014, 12:48:44 pm
Dreads were the norm for all of humanity for centuries until random tribes at random times picked up a new tradition or fashion of combing hair.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 13, 2014, 12:55:36 pm
Dreads were the norm for all of humanity for centuries until random tribes at random times picked up a new tradition or fashion of combing hair.
Really?  I didn't know that.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: mellenORL on April 13, 2014, 01:08:57 pm
Look at any random homeless, mentally ill white person who does not or cannot comb their hair anymore. Unintentional dreads. "Walking with Cavemen" accurately depicted dreads on ancient people, including Europeans and Neanderthals, as well. Some of the permafrost mummies discovered in recent years in the steppes of Eurasia had dreads as well as braided hair.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 13, 2014, 02:51:35 pm
(https://31.media.tumblr.com/dd16f961d012dede044665400b6f4f92/tumblr_inline_n3sbcvaVIM1qihivo.jpg)
(https://31.media.tumblr.com/ec67b537b4bd4332b32066bf0ae80a3c/tumblr_inline_n3sbd2EcRy1qihivo.jpg)
(https://31.media.tumblr.com/306b4eeb17aba6fe941ee02e3fc6cd68/tumblr_inline_n3sbd777qI1qihivo.jpg)
(https://31.media.tumblr.com/3f79d9fe6f0d6e5b5ac38d81f238dac4/tumblr_inline_n3sbdcHmMt1qihivo.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: I am lizard on April 13, 2014, 03:51:12 pm
(https://31.media.tumblr.com/dd16f961d012dede044665400b6f4f92/tumblr_inline_n3sbcvaVIM1qihivo.jpg)
(https://31.media.tumblr.com/ec67b537b4bd4332b32066bf0ae80a3c/tumblr_inline_n3sbd2EcRy1qihivo.jpg)
(https://31.media.tumblr.com/306b4eeb17aba6fe941ee02e3fc6cd68/tumblr_inline_n3sbd777qI1qihivo.jpg)
(https://31.media.tumblr.com/3f79d9fe6f0d6e5b5ac38d81f238dac4/tumblr_inline_n3sbdcHmMt1qihivo.jpg)
I don't really like it as much as the original, cus the "Misandry" tattoos were probably suppose to be ironic.

They still look fuckin' stupid though considering you're gonna have them on you for the rest of your fuckin' life unless you want to have a laser burn your skin.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Dakota Bob on April 13, 2014, 06:12:27 pm
Yeah, plebcomics draws some great stuff.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on April 13, 2014, 06:56:13 pm
(http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/733/504/496.gif)

What does S.J.W. stand for?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Damen on April 13, 2014, 06:59:35 pm
Knee-jerk indignation and stupidity, mostly.

But the initials stand for Social Justice Warrior.

*edit*

My 1,500th post! ;D
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 13, 2014, 07:46:58 pm
Knee-jerk indignation and stupidity, mostly.

But the initials stand for Social Justice Warrior.

*edit*

My 1,500th post! ;D
Congratulations!

Anyway, this reminds me of the "Frozen race controversy".  SJWs told Sami people disputing their claims that they were ignorant about their own ethnicity.  That's so dumb even Ralph Wiggum would facepalm at it.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on April 13, 2014, 08:44:22 pm
Knee-jerk indignation and stupidity, mostly.

But the initials stand for Social Justice Warrior.

*edit*

My 1,500th post! ;D
Congratulations!

Anyway, this reminds me of the "Frozen race controversy".  SJWs told Sami people disputing their claims that they were ignorant about their own ethnicity.  That's so dumb even Ralph Wiggum would facepalm at it.

Not to mention they go after Sami for looking too white.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Damen on April 13, 2014, 08:46:55 pm
Knee-jerk indignation and stupidity, mostly.

But the initials stand for Social Justice Warrior.

*edit*

My 1,500th post! ;D
Congratulations!

Anyway, this reminds me of the "Frozen race controversy".  SJWs told Sami people disputing their claims that they were ignorant about their own ethnicity.  That's so dumb even Ralph Wiggum would facepalm at it.

Not to mention they go after Sami for looking too white.

(http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130504204420/wreckitralph/images/0/02/Say-what.gif)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: mellenORL on April 14, 2014, 09:46:37 am
Just another example of how bad the US education system is. SJW's are overwhelmingly American kids. They don't know who the current PM's are of major nations around the world. They don't know basic science, they don't know jack shit about anything outside of their little teapot tempest blog wars. It's no surprise they've zero familiarity with the Sami and Lapps, and that even when confronted with the facts about the struggles of these indigenous peoples, all that matters to the SJW's is that they are white skinned, and so, should be dismissed out of hand.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 14, 2014, 12:09:28 pm
Just another example of how bad the US education system is. SJW's are overwhelmingly American kids. They don't know who the current PM's are of major nations around the world. They don't know basic science, they don't know jack shit about anything outside of their little teapot tempest blog wars. It's no surprise they've zero familiarity with the Sami and Lapps, and that even when confronted with the facts about the struggles of these indigenous peoples, all that matters to the SJW's is that they are white skinned, and so, should be dismissed out of hand.
Yeah.  The irony is so thick I could cut it with a knife.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 14, 2014, 12:54:16 pm
(http://37.media.tumblr.com/9c9c81d2fb1dbb37354e9775a652b635/tumblr_n2cms2L7Yn1rdwac3o1_1280.jpg)
(http://37.media.tumblr.com/5f3c1a3110813f66498081e2e7a519eb/tumblr_n2cms2L7Yn1rdwac3o2_1280.jpg)
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(http://37.media.tumblr.com/32cd142bcb8ffb625e3f67406d6885f2/tumblr_n2cms2L7Yn1rdwac3o4_1280.jpg)
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/91292f6a1ecce839679ca7bd762b706c/tumblr_n2cms2L7Yn1rdwac3o5_1280.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on April 14, 2014, 01:41:35 pm
Knee-jerk indignation and stupidity, mostly.

But the initials stand for Social Justice Warrior.

*edit*

My 1,500th post! ;D
Congratulations!

Anyway, this reminds me of the "Frozen race controversy".  SJWs told Sami people disputing their claims that they were ignorant about their own ethnicity.  That's so dumb even Ralph Wiggum would facepalm at it.

Not to mention they go after Sami for looking too white.

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To make things confusing for Americans, some Sami are darker skinned than others.  There is no single "skin color" for the Sami.

And yet SJWs act like there is, and that it's the darkest skin color they have.

They then proceed to harass white-skinned Sami on the internet, accusing them of appropriating their own culture.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on April 14, 2014, 02:47:59 pm
Knee-jerk indignation and stupidity, mostly.

But the initials stand for Social Justice Warrior.

*edit*

My 1,500th post! ;D

Ahhhh......Thanks.

SJWs drive me insane and their craziness contradicts itself......they're attitudes are so extreme that they loop into becoming what they condemn.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 14, 2014, 03:23:14 pm
Knee-jerk indignation and stupidity, mostly.

But the initials stand for Social Justice Warrior.

*edit*

My 1,500th post! ;D

Ahhhh......Thanks.

SJWs drive me insane and their craziness contradicts itself......they're attitudes are so extreme that they loop into becoming what they condemn.
Yeah, Social Justice Wankers are living proof of the Horseshoe Theory.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: I am lizard on April 14, 2014, 07:41:35 pm
(http://37.media.tumblr.com/9c9c81d2fb1dbb37354e9775a652b635/tumblr_n2cms2L7Yn1rdwac3o1_1280.jpg)
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(http://24.media.tumblr.com/925927b372b88ce6b2b7be23e2d9ad65/tumblr_n2cms2L7Yn1rdwac3o3_1280.jpg)
(http://37.media.tumblr.com/32cd142bcb8ffb625e3f67406d6885f2/tumblr_n2cms2L7Yn1rdwac3o4_1280.jpg)
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/91292f6a1ecce839679ca7bd762b706c/tumblr_n2cms2L7Yn1rdwac3o5_1280.jpg)
While I get what they mean, isn't this overly hypothetical? Plus, when someone talks about gangs of blacks out to kill whites they are generally going to be a paranoid racist.

Attacking white people based on race more likely happens to specific groups such as the irish or scottish, and then it mostly happens in more european countries.




Also, random thing, it doesn't even need to be black-on-white as a group of white and black people could murder an irish or catholic person based on there race. 
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: fancy_kitten on April 14, 2014, 08:05:54 pm
Calling a group of black people killing a white person based on race racism ignores the power imbalance between people of any non-white race and white people in this country.  It doesn't help when someone reduces mentioning a centuries-long history of racial oppression that America is still reeling from to "Your point is invalid because SLAVERY!!!!!1."  There are a million reasons why that comic is too ignorant for words but I don't think I even have the energy to go into detail about them all right now. 
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: R. U. Sirius on April 14, 2014, 08:10:52 pm
Calling a group of black people killing a white person based on race racism ignores the power imbalance between people of any non-white race and white people in this country.  It doesn't help when someone reduces mentioning a centuries-long history of racial oppression that America is still reeling from to "Your point is invalid because SLAVERY!!!!!1."  There are a million reasons why that comic is too ignorant for words but I don't think I even have the energy to go into detail about them all right now.

Not in the least. Racism has only an incidental relation to power imbalances; at its core, racism is the belief that there is some essential difference between races that makes one better or worse than another. This can be either negative or positive; "Asians are all stoic, logical and good at math" or "blacks are all naturally athletic" is just as racist as saying "all blacks are lazy" or "all white people are racist." So a black gang killing a white person purely based on his race, as opposed to anything the victim actually did, is just as racist as a white gang killing a black person for being black.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 14, 2014, 08:13:02 pm
Calling a group of black people killing a white person based on race racism ignores the power imbalance between people of any non-white race and white people in this country.  It doesn't help when someone reduces mentioning a centuries-long history of racial oppression that America is still reeling from to "Your point is invalid because SLAVERY!!!!!1."  There are a million reasons why that comic is too ignorant for words but I don't think I even have the energy to go into detail about them all right now.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sw6ndZNLYUA

Do I really have to explain why that makes you sound like an SJW?

(http://i.imgur.com/QLNIZ02.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Dakota Bob on April 14, 2014, 08:51:41 pm
I'm hoping that last one is a joke.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: I am lizard on April 14, 2014, 09:04:10 pm
On the comic itself, I will point out the difference is that the one with the white guy getting murdered would end in everyone calling for the black groups heads, the other scenario would likely result in the white guys getting off scott free as they were simply defending themselves against the negro menace.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 14, 2014, 09:37:24 pm
On the comic itself, I will point out the difference is that the one with the white guy getting murdered would end in everyone calling for the black groups heads, the other scenario would likely result in the white guys getting off scott free as they were simply defending themselves against the negro menace.
Did you come out of a time warp from the 1970s?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: I am lizard on April 14, 2014, 09:56:34 pm
On the comic itself, I will point out the difference is that the one with the white guy getting murdered would end in everyone calling for the black groups heads, the other scenario would likely result in the white guys getting off scott free as they were simply defending themselves against the negro menace.
Did you come out of a time warp from the 1970s?
Yes, but I'm not sure why this has to do with my bitterness over the Trayvon martin case and about a half-dozen other cases of black guys getting killed and the murderer getting away shit-free because he/she (okay, he) was simply defending himself from the scary unarmed black teenager.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 14, 2014, 10:24:32 pm
On the comic itself, I will point out the difference is that the one with the white guy getting murdered would end in everyone calling for the black groups heads, the other scenario would likely result in the white guys getting off scott free as they were simply defending themselves against the negro menace.
Did you come out of a time warp from the 1970s?
Yes, but I'm not sure why this has to do with my bitterness over the Trayvon martin case and about a half-dozen other cases of black guys getting killed and the murderer getting away shit-free because he/she (okay, he) was simply defending himself from the scary unarmed black teenager.
I think George Zimmerman is a brute, but I don't think he's a racist.  It seems likely that racism played a role in getting him off, but it also helped this guy:
(http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/dam/assets/130715142555-07-acquittals-oj-story-top.jpg)

Anyway, that kind of thing doesn't happen nearly as often as it used to.  True, it still happens too much, but it's far from a common occurrence.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: I am lizard on April 14, 2014, 10:26:54 pm
On the comic itself, I will point out the difference is that the one with the white guy getting murdered would end in everyone calling for the black groups heads, the other scenario would likely result in the white guys getting off scott free as they were simply defending themselves against the negro menace.
Did you come out of a time warp from the 1970s?
Yes, but I'm not sure why this has to do with my bitterness over the Trayvon martin case and about a half-dozen other cases of black guys getting killed and the murderer getting away shit-free because he/she (okay, he) was simply defending himself from the scary unarmed black teenager.
I think George Zimmerman is a brute, but I don't think he's a racist.  It seems likely that racism played a role in getting him off, but it also helped this guy:
(http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/dam/assets/130715142555-07-acquittals-oj-story-top.jpg)

Anyway, that kind of thing doesn't happen nearly as often as it used to.  True, it still happens too much, but it's far from a common occurrence.
BTW, why the 70's? Like, wouldn't a better choice be the 60's or 50's?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 14, 2014, 10:28:37 pm
On the comic itself, I will point out the difference is that the one with the white guy getting murdered would end in everyone calling for the black groups heads, the other scenario would likely result in the white guys getting off scott free as they were simply defending themselves against the negro menace.
Did you come out of a time warp from the 1970s?
Yes, but I'm not sure why this has to do with my bitterness over the Trayvon martin case and about a half-dozen other cases of black guys getting killed and the murderer getting away shit-free because he/she (okay, he) was simply defending himself from the scary unarmed black teenager.
I think George Zimmerman is a brute, but I don't think he's a racist.  It seems likely that racism played a role in getting him off, but it also helped this guy:
(http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/dam/assets/130715142555-07-acquittals-oj-story-top.jpg)

Anyway, that kind of thing doesn't happen nearly as often as it used to.  True, it still happens too much, but it's far from a common occurrence.
BTW, why the 70's? Like, wouldn't a better choice be the 60's or 50's?
I chose it because reasons.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: fancy_kitten on April 14, 2014, 10:38:58 pm
Calling a group of black people killing a white person based on race racism ignores the power imbalance between people of any non-white race and white people in this country.  It doesn't help when someone reduces mentioning a centuries-long history of racial oppression that America is still reeling from to "Your point is invalid because SLAVERY!!!!!1."  There are a million reasons why that comic is too ignorant for words but I don't think I even have the energy to go into detail about them all right now.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sw6ndZNLYUA

Do I really have to explain why that makes you sound like an SJW?

(http://i.imgur.com/QLNIZ02.jpg)

-sigh-  Is that really the one you're going to use?  Okay man, how about this: According to people who donate to and volunteer in soup kitchens, people who can afford to buy their own food cannot experience "hunger."  Yes they're aware that people who can eat at Applebee's on a nightly basis and still pay their bills technically need food and could potentially starve to death if they went long enough without it, but they can't be hungry, because only homeless people and people who otherwise can't even afford instant ramen can truly be hungry.  How is this not classism?  I'm calling it now, there is a war on people who can support themselves financially.  A war, I tell you.

Moving on, I'm well aware that a member of any group killing a member of any other group in cold blood is indeed monstrous and shouldn't be tolerated, but in order for something to qualify as oppression the action has to be taken against a member of an oppressed group.  In most of the world, white people are not an oppressed group.  This doesn't mean that murder or violence is okay in some contexts, it means that there are contexts in which there is a clear link between murder and an oppressive system and contexts in which no such connection exists, because there isn't an oppressive system for it to stem from.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: R. U. Sirius on April 14, 2014, 10:53:41 pm
Calling a group of black people killing a white person based on race racism ignores the power imbalance between people of any non-white race and white people in this country.  It doesn't help when someone reduces mentioning a centuries-long history of racial oppression that America is still reeling from to "Your point is invalid because SLAVERY!!!!!1."  There are a million reasons why that comic is too ignorant for words but I don't think I even have the energy to go into detail about them all right now.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sw6ndZNLYUA

Do I really have to explain why that makes you sound like an SJW?

(http://i.imgur.com/QLNIZ02.jpg)

-sigh-  Is that really the one you're going to use?  Okay man, how about this: According to people who donate to and volunteer in soup kitchens, people who can afford to buy their own food cannot experience "hunger."  Yes they're aware that people who can eat at Applebee's on a nightly basis and still pay their bills technically need food and could potentially starve to death if they went long enough without it, but they can't be hungry, because only homeless people and people who otherwise can't even afford instant ramen can truly be hungry.  How is this not classism?  I'm calling it now, there is a war on people who can support themselves financially.  A war, I tell you.

Moving on, I'm well aware that a member of any group killing a member of any other group in cold blood is indeed monstrous and shouldn't be tolerated, but in order for something to qualify as oppression the action has to be taken against a member of an oppressed group.  In most of the world, white people are not an oppressed group.  This doesn't mean that murder or violence is okay in some contexts, it means that there are contexts in which there is a clear link between murder and an oppressive system and contexts in which no such connection exists, because there isn't an oppressive system for it to stem from.

Except that racism and oppression are, again, related, but not synonymous.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ironchew on April 14, 2014, 11:02:04 pm
Calling a group of black people killing a white person based on race racism ignores the power imbalance between people of any non-white race and white people in this country.

Wait, was that a social justice quote? No? It was posted on FQA, totally without irony or sarcasm?

(http://i.imgur.com/RhjdL.png)

If you don't think reverse racism is racism, there's a New Black Panther Party for Self-Defense where you'd fit right in. Assuming they don't murder you for being white or being a Jew.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: fancy_kitten on April 14, 2014, 11:34:32 pm
Calling a group of black people killing a white person based on race racism ignores the power imbalance between people of any non-white race and white people in this country.  It doesn't help when someone reduces mentioning a centuries-long history of racial oppression that America is still reeling from to "Your point is invalid because SLAVERY!!!!!1."  There are a million reasons why that comic is too ignorant for words but I don't think I even have the energy to go into detail about them all right now.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sw6ndZNLYUA

Do I really have to explain why that makes you sound like an SJW?

(http://i.imgur.com/QLNIZ02.jpg)

-sigh-  Is that really the one you're going to use?  Okay man, how about this: According to people who donate to and volunteer in soup kitchens, people who can afford to buy their own food cannot experience "hunger."  Yes they're aware that people who can eat at Applebee's on a nightly basis and still pay their bills technically need food and could potentially starve to death if they went long enough without it, but they can't be hungry, because only homeless people and people who otherwise can't even afford instant ramen can truly be hungry.  How is this not classism?  I'm calling it now, there is a war on people who can support themselves financially.  A war, I tell you.

Moving on, I'm well aware that a member of any group killing a member of any other group in cold blood is indeed monstrous and shouldn't be tolerated, but in order for something to qualify as oppression the action has to be taken against a member of an oppressed group.  In most of the world, white people are not an oppressed group.  This doesn't mean that murder or violence is okay in some contexts, it means that there are contexts in which there is a clear link between murder and an oppressive system and contexts in which no such connection exists, because there isn't an oppressive system for it to stem from.

Except that racism and oppression are, again, related, but not synonymous.

In layman's terms maybe.  Much like a typical creationist might claim that evolution doesn't have a stronger foundation of evidence than creation because evolution is, as we all know, just a theory, people who don't understand racism will use the term in ways that aren't equivalent at all.  What creationists really mean to say is that evolution is a hypothesis, what people who don't like prejudice, -i.e. everyboydy- but misunderstand the relationship between racism and systematic oppression really mean to say is prejudice.  There is a nuanced difference but it's there.
Calling a group of black people killing a white person based on race racism ignores the power imbalance between people of any non-white race and white people in this country.

Wait, was that a social justice quote? No? It was posted on FQA, totally without irony or sarcasm?

(http://i.imgur.com/RhjdL.png)

If you don't think reverse racism is racism, there's a New Black Panther Party for Self-Defense where you'd fit right in. Assuming they don't murder you for being white or being a Jew.
 

Oh boy, it's the big one.  Okay, so you use the term 'reverse racism' and criticize me for not thinking that reverse racism is racism.  If they were the same thing you wouldn't need a special word for it.  If you throw a bucket of elephant diarrhea at somebody, you really shouldn't be getting upset if some of it hits you as they frantically try to get it off.  Then you talk about the Black Panther Party, a group who was formed in part to fight against the KKK, whose idea of a good time up until that point was murdering families for fun.  Forgive me if I don't shed a tear for them.  I won't try to excuse their anti-Semitism, but get out of here with that 'they try to kill white people' crap.  I'll buy that when I see a news story about a white dude's family being forced to watch him get humiliated and lynched, but not a moment before.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ironchew on April 14, 2014, 11:43:23 pm
You're defending an absurd hypothetical. It's already been established that a group of black people hypothetically kills a white person because he's white. To me, calling that anything other than a disgustingly racist hate crime, much less trying to excuse them and say it's not actually racist, is beyond the pale.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: I am lizard on April 14, 2014, 11:55:09 pm
Yeah, it's one thing to say white people aren't nearly as badly discriminated against as black people, it's another to say black people killing white people based purely on the fact they're white isn't racism is another.


#CancelFancy_Kitten
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on April 14, 2014, 11:56:55 pm
I'm hoping that last one is a joke.
Close but not exactly. It is parody that was made to highlight how stupid it is to try to rebrand racism into "power+prejudice."

And really, this rebranding is not helping anyone. By claiming that person X cannot experience racism SJWs are simply ignoring some peoples suffering but not really doing anything that would help the others who face racism either.

Why can't we just accept that all racism is bad and that depending on the location there are ethnic groups that face more racism than others. In fact I am not even denying that some ethnic groups have less power and face institutional racism and opression that other groups don't (depending on the location of course.) It is just that claiming that "group X can not be racist because blah" is derailing the conversation and is just an argument over semantics.

Yes, in USA (or at least parts of USA) a black person A still faces institutional racism while a white person B does not face the same hurdles, but that does not mean that A shouting that "all white people are subhuman mutants, whose low melanin numbers are a clear indication of their inferiority, need to be shot" would not be racist. (It also does not mean that mere racist remarks would be as bad as being jailed for petty crimes when someone of different skin colour would be treated more leniently by the courts.)

This (much like many other cases) is not a zero sum game and the fact that even the opressed ethnic groups can be racist does not mean that they aren't opressed. In fact, any person being a racist is a minor problem and a thought crime at most unless they commit opression or hate crimes due to that racism. If a group of black people and a group of white people both hold racist ideas but don't act on it no harm is done. If those groups both kill a member of a different ethnic group due to their racism then it is just as bad. AND if one of those groups get away with murder because the society and the law do not care for one of the victims then THAT is the real problem but it won't go away by claiming that one of those murders wasn't as bad because the killers can't be racist.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: I am lizard on April 15, 2014, 12:00:06 am
I'm hoping that last one is a joke.
Close but not exactly. It is parody that was made to highlight how stupid it is to try to rebrand racism into "power+prejudice."

And really, this rebranding is not helping anyone. By claiming that person X cannot experience racism SJWs are simply ignoring some peoples suffering but not really doing anything that would help the others who face racism either.

Why can't we just accept that all racism is bad and that depending on the location there are ethnic groups that face more racism than others. In fact I am not even denying that some ethnic groups have less power and face institutional racism and opression that other groups don't (depending on the location of course.) It is just that claiming that "group X can not be racist because blah" is derailing the conversation and is just an argument over semantics.

Yes, in USA (or at least parts of USA) a black person A still faces institutional racism while a white person B does not face the same hurdles, but that does not mean that A shouting that "all white people are subhuman mutants, whose low melanin numbers are a clear indication of their inferiority, need to be shot" would not be racist. (It also does not mean that mere racist remarks would be as bad as being jailed for petty crimes when someone of different skin colour would be treated more leniently by the courts.)

This (much like many other cases) is not a zero sum game and the fact that even the opressed ethnic groups can be racist does not mean that they aren't opressed. In fact, any person being a racist is a minor problem and a thought crime at most unless they commit opression or hate crimes due to that racism. If a group of black people and a group of white people both hold racist ideas but don't act on it no harm is done. If those groups both kill a member of a different ethnic group due to their racism then it is just as bad. AND if one of those groups get away with murder because the society and the law do not care for one of the victims then THAT is the real problem but it won't go away by claiming that one of those murders wasn't as bad because the killers can't be racist.
TL;dr, racism is bad, and no Rush Limbaugh, white people aren't oppressed.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: fancy_kitten on April 15, 2014, 12:04:14 am
Okay, let's backtrack a little bit here and put things into more practical terms.  So, the specific but hypothetical situation we're talking about here is a group of black people killing a white person and the reverse of that.  So let's say each case is brought before a judge, who statistically speaking is most likely going to be white, and a jury, who are also fairly likely to be mostly white.  Which group do you think this judge would hand out more death sentences to?  Which group do you honestly think is going to end up worse off?  If one of them tried to say something akin to "Okay, we admit we were going to rough him up a bit and that was wrong, but we didn't have any intentions of killing him until he fought back!  It was practically a complete accident and we should get involuntary manslaughter at worst!" form whom do you think the argument would hold more weight?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Damen on April 15, 2014, 12:06:03 am
No one is talking about sentences or guilty/not-guilty verdicts; they're talking about how saying "it's not racist when non-whites do it" is a load of shit.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on April 15, 2014, 12:10:37 am
Okay, let's backtrack a little bit here and put things into more practical terms.  So, the specific but hypothetical situation we're talking about here is a group of black people killing a white person and the reverse of that.  So let's say each case is brought before a judge, who statistically speaking is most likely going to be white, and a jury, who are also fairly likely to be mostly white.  Which group do you think this judge would hand out more death sentences to?  Which group do you honestly think is going to end up worse off?  If one of them tried to say something akin to "Okay, we admit we were going to rough him up a bit and that was wrong, but we didn't have any intentions of killing him until he fought back!  It was practically a complete accident and we should get involuntary manslaughter at worst!" form whom do you think the argument would hold more weight?
I specifically said that if one group can get away with crimes due to racism while others are judged unfairly then that is a REALLY bad thing and true opression.

That still does not mean that person A killing person B due to racism would not be a hate crime. Neither does it mean that A insulting B due to B's race wouldn't be racism. Or that A thinking quietly in his head that B is inferiour due to his race wouldn't be racism. Some of those are worse than the others, but it does not mean that changing the ethnicity of A and B would make any of those NOT be racism.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: fancy_kitten on April 15, 2014, 12:20:51 am
No one is talking about sentences or guilty/not-guilty verdicts; they're talking about how saying "it's not racist when non-whites do it" is a load of shit.

Okay, but without discussing actual results and what causes them the term 'racism' kind of loses its meaning.

Okay, let's backtrack a little bit here and put things into more practical terms.  So, the specific but hypothetical situation we're talking about here is a group of black people killing a white person and the reverse of that.  So let's say each case is brought before a judge, who statistically speaking is most likely going to be white, and a jury, who are also fairly likely to be mostly white.  Which group do you think this judge would hand out more death sentences to?  Which group do you honestly think is going to end up worse off?  If one of them tried to say something akin to "Okay, we admit we were going to rough him up a bit and that was wrong, but we didn't have any intentions of killing him until he fought back!  It was practically a complete accident and we should get involuntary manslaughter at worst!" form whom do you think the argument would hold more weight?
I specifically said that if one group can get away with crimes due to racism while others are judged unfairly then that is a REALLY bad thing and true opression.

That still does not mean that person A killing person B due to racism would not be a hate crime. Neither does it mean that A insulting B due to B's race wouldn't be racism. Or that A thinking quietly in his head that B is inferiour due to his race wouldn't be racism. Some of those are worse than the others, but it does not mean that changing the ethnicity of A and B would make any of those NOT be racism.

That's the thing though, language is important.  If A is a person being on the receiving end of a negative action in an environment in which other members of group A have no history of being oppressed in both the public and private sectors, and in which the majority of wealthy people and people in government positions, and B is a person experiencing a negative action in an environment where those things are true, A does not logically equal B. 

Yeah, it's one thing to say white people aren't nearly as badly discriminated against as black people, it's another to say black people killing white people based purely on the fact they're white isn't racism is another.


#CancelFancy_Kitten

I swear you people are kinder to actual hateful fundies than you are to supporters of social justice.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: R. U. Sirius on April 15, 2014, 12:25:23 am
No one is talking about sentences or guilty/not-guilty verdicts; they're talking about how saying "it's not racist when non-whites do it" is a load of shit.

Okay, but without discussing actual results and what causes them the term 'racism' kind of loses its meaning.

Okay, let's backtrack a little bit here and put things into more practical terms.  So, the specific but hypothetical situation we're talking about here is a group of black people killing a white person and the reverse of that.  So let's say each case is brought before a judge, who statistically speaking is most likely going to be white, and a jury, who are also fairly likely to be mostly white.  Which group do you think this judge would hand out more death sentences to?  Which group do you honestly think is going to end up worse off?  If one of them tried to say something akin to "Okay, we admit we were going to rough him up a bit and that was wrong, but we didn't have any intentions of killing him until he fought back!  It was practically a complete accident and we should get involuntary manslaughter at worst!" form whom do you think the argument would hold more weight?
I specifically said that if one group can get away with crimes due to racism while others are judged unfairly then that is a REALLY bad thing and true opression.

That still does not mean that person A killing person B due to racism would not be a hate crime. Neither does it mean that A insulting B due to B's race wouldn't be racism. Or that A thinking quietly in his head that B is inferiour due to his race wouldn't be racism. Some of those are worse than the others, but it does not mean that changing the ethnicity of A and B would make any of those NOT be racism.

That's the thing though, language is important.  If A is a person being on the receiving end of a negative action in an environment in which other members of group A have no history of being oppressed in both the public and private sectors, and in which the majority of wealthy people and people in government positions, and B is a person experiencing a negative action in an environment where those things are true, A does not logically equal B. 

Yeah, it's one thing to say white people aren't nearly as badly discriminated against as black people, it's another to say black people killing white people based purely on the fact they're white isn't racism is another.


#CancelFancy_Kitten

I swear you people are kinder to actual hateful fundies than you are to supporters of social justice.

Nobody has claimed that the two are equivalent or would be treated equivalently. Having a cold isn't the same as having full-blown AIDS, but both are still diseases. I've said it before and I'll say it again: Racism is related to oppression, but being in the position of the oppressed does NOT make you immune to being a racist.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: fancy_kitten on April 15, 2014, 12:36:00 am
No one is talking about sentences or guilty/not-guilty verdicts; they're talking about how saying "it's not racist when non-whites do it" is a load of shit.

Okay, but without discussing actual results and what causes them the term 'racism' kind of loses its meaning.

Okay, let's backtrack a little bit here and put things into more practical terms.  So, the specific but hypothetical situation we're talking about here is a group of black people killing a white person and the reverse of that.  So let's say each case is brought before a judge, who statistically speaking is most likely going to be white, and a jury, who are also fairly likely to be mostly white.  Which group do you think this judge would hand out more death sentences to?  Which group do you honestly think is going to end up worse off?  If one of them tried to say something akin to "Okay, we admit we were going to rough him up a bit and that was wrong, but we didn't have any intentions of killing him until he fought back!  It was practically a complete accident and we should get involuntary manslaughter at worst!" form whom do you think the argument would hold more weight?
I specifically said that if one group can get away with crimes due to racism while others are judged unfairly then that is a REALLY bad thing and true opression.

That still does not mean that person A killing person B due to racism would not be a hate crime. Neither does it mean that A insulting B due to B's race wouldn't be racism. Or that A thinking quietly in his head that B is inferiour due to his race wouldn't be racism. Some of those are worse than the others, but it does not mean that changing the ethnicity of A and B would make any of those NOT be racism.

That's the thing though, language is important.  If A is a person being on the receiving end of a negative action in an environment in which other members of group A have no history of being oppressed in both the public and private sectors, and in which the majority of wealthy people and people in government positions, and B is a person experiencing a negative action in an environment where those things are true, A does not logically equal B. 

Yeah, it's one thing to say white people aren't nearly as badly discriminated against as black people, it's another to say black people killing white people based purely on the fact they're white isn't racism is another.


#CancelFancy_Kitten

I swear you people are kinder to actual hateful fundies than you are to supporters of social justice.

Nobody has claimed that the two are equivalent or would be treated equivalently. Having a cold isn't the same as having full-blown AIDS, but both are still diseases. I've said it before and I'll say it again: Racism is related to oppression, but being in the position of the oppressed does NOT make you immune to being a racist.

Okay, but calling both ailments 'terminal,' for instance, would make no sense, right?  Running with the metaphor you've presented, I'd say that 'disease' is equivalent to 'prejudiced' but only 'terminal' would be equivalent to 'racist.'  One is bad and deserves attention, while one is extremely bad, deserves immediate attention, and has completely different root causes.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: R. U. Sirius on April 15, 2014, 01:06:37 am
By your logic, it would be impossible for a woman to abuse a man in a relationship because of the fact that we still live in a highly patriarchal society where men are largely favored over women in many jobs and institutions. Sure, she might scream at, demean, strike or threaten him with weapons, but it wouldn't be abuse because of the societal power differential between men and women.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on April 15, 2014, 01:45:06 am
Okay, but calling both ailments 'terminal,' for instance, would make no sense, right?  Running with the metaphor you've presented, I'd say that 'disease' is equivalent to 'prejudiced' but only 'terminal' would be equivalent to 'racist.'  One is bad and deserves attention, while one is extremely bad, deserves immediate attention, and has completely different root causes.
No, you see now we get to the point where we disagree. YOU and SJWs and SJAs and whatever different monikers there are, are trying to change the meaning of the word racist.

If we're still using the disease metaphor, in our opinion you are trying to argue that the word disease should be reserved for diseases that cause near certain death and that people who have the flu or diabetes etc. should not count as having a disease. We are not claiming that there aren't terminal illnesses or that some diseases are more dangerous than others, just that all diseases count as diseases wether they are lethal or not.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ghoti on April 15, 2014, 02:13:09 am
Oi, DOCTAH! Flame war in the cartoon thread!

(Tattling aside, this looks like a job for Aquaman discussion for F&B.)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: fancy_kitten on April 15, 2014, 02:17:39 am
By your logic, it would be impossible for a woman to abuse a man in a relationship because of the fact that we still live in a highly patriarchal society where men are largely favored over women in many jobs and institutions. Sure, she might scream at, demean, strike or threaten him with weapons, but it wouldn't be abuse because of the societal power differential between men and women.
 

I think it would be more apt to say that, by my definition, the man in question wouldn't be experiencing sexism, which I honestly don't think he would.

Okay, but calling both ailments 'terminal,' for instance, would make no sense, right?  Running with the metaphor you've presented, I'd say that 'disease' is equivalent to 'prejudiced' but only 'terminal' would be equivalent to 'racist.'  One is bad and deserves attention, while one is extremely bad, deserves immediate attention, and has completely different root causes.
No, you see now we get to the point where we disagree. YOU and SJWs and SJAs and whatever different monikers there are, are trying to change the meaning of the word racist.

If we're still using the disease metaphor, in our opinion you are trying to argue that the word disease should be reserved for diseases that cause near certain death and that people who have the flu or diabetes etc. should not count as having a disease. We are not claiming that there aren't terminal illnesses or that some diseases are more dangerous than others, just that all diseases count as diseases wether they are lethal or not.

Alright, I don't see this conversation going any farther at this point.  I'll just make my closing statement that the point I was trying to make is that while a thing can be bad, it's important to know whether or not that thing has a history and/or an active power structure behind it.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Sylvana on April 15, 2014, 02:20:14 am
If we're still using the disease metaphor, in our opinion you are trying to argue that the word disease should be reserved for diseases that cause near certain death and that people who have the flu or diabetes etc. should not count as having a disease. We are not claiming that there aren't terminal illnesses or that some diseases are more dangerous than others, just that all diseases count as diseases wether they are lethal or not.

Personally, I felt that disease should really only be applicable for medical conditions caused by viral or bacterial micro-organisms. Hence, I am not particularly fond of classifying things like diabetes or cancer as a disease. However, I do agree with the main point you are trying to make. It is just my two pedantic cents.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on April 15, 2014, 02:58:00 am
If we're still using the disease metaphor, in our opinion you are trying to argue that the word disease should be reserved for diseases that cause near certain death and that people who have the flu or diabetes etc. should not count as having a disease. We are not claiming that there aren't terminal illnesses or that some diseases are more dangerous than others, just that all diseases count as diseases wether they are lethal or not.

Personally, I felt that disease should really only be applicable for medical conditions caused by viral or bacterial micro-organisms. Hence, I am not particularly fond of classifying things like diabetes or cancer as a disease. However, I do agree with the main point you are trying to make. It is just my two pedantic cents.
Sorry, I guess I should have used HIV or Ebola or something but I just picked some ailments by random.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on April 15, 2014, 05:32:41 am
ALLLLLLLLL-RIGHTY THEN! TIME FOR ANOTHER CARTOON!
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 15, 2014, 04:35:17 pm
(http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z205/JekyllnHyde_photos/February%2020th%202011/89690_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ironchew on April 15, 2014, 07:03:37 pm
2. Rich people use money they would have spent on taxes to hire part-time, low-wage workers.

Or the corporation pockets the money and does nothing else with it.

4. Products don't sell because low-wage workers have little money, pension or social security.

The products are selling just fine, but corporations are no longer focused on marketing their products to the middle class in the United States. That's just not where the money is at on a global scope.

If I were a morally-bankrupt corporation, I would figure out how to lend credit to my employees instead of paying them wages. That way I can redeem it all later, with interest.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: R. U. Sirius on April 15, 2014, 07:17:22 pm
2. Rich people use money they would have spent on taxes to hire part-time, low-wage workers.

Or the corporation pockets the money and does nothing else with it.

4. Products don't sell because low-wage workers have little money, pension or social security.

The products are selling just fine, but corporations are no longer focused on marketing their products to the middle class in the United States. That's just not where the money is at on a global scope.

If I were a morally-bankrupt corporation, I would figure out how to lend credit to my employees instead of paying them wages. That way I can redeem it all later, with interest.

Some companies, particularly mining companies, used to do something very similar. They would have their workers concentrated in small communities that the company owned and ran and paid them in scrip that was only redeemable at the stores within those communities, effectively cutting them off from the outside world. Some would even force their workers to pay rent on their houses with company scrip.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RavynousHunter on April 15, 2014, 07:22:37 pm
2. Rich people use money they would have spent on taxes to hire part-time, low-wage workers.

Or the corporation pockets the money and does nothing else with it.

4. Products don't sell because low-wage workers have little money, pension or social security.

The products are selling just fine, but corporations are no longer focused on marketing their products to the middle class in the United States. That's just not where the money is at on a global scope.

If I were a morally-bankrupt corporation, I would figure out how to lend credit to my employees instead of paying them wages. That way I can redeem it all later, with interest.

Some companies, particularly mining companies, used to do something very similar. They would have their workers concentrated in small communities that the company owned and ran and paid them in scrip that was only redeemable at the stores within those communities, effectively cutting them off from the outside world. Some would even force their workers to pay rent on their houses with company scrip.

Which, I might remind everyone, ended with rather a fair deal of bloodshed.  Matewan Massacre (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Matewan), anyone?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on April 15, 2014, 07:45:13 pm
On the comic itself, I will point out the difference is that the one with the white guy getting murdered would end in everyone calling for the black groups heads, the other scenario would likely result in the white guys getting off scott free as they were simply defending themselves against the negro menace.
Did you come out of a time warp from the 1970s?
Yes, but I'm not sure why this has to do with my bitterness over the Trayvon martin case and about a half-dozen other cases of black guys getting killed and the murderer getting away shit-free because he/she (okay, he) was simply defending himself from the scary unarmed black teenager.
I think George Zimmerman is a brute, but I don't think he's a racist.  It seems likely that racism played a role in getting him off, but it also helped this guy:
(http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/dam/assets/130715142555-07-acquittals-oj-story-top.jpg)

Anyway, that kind of thing doesn't happen nearly as often as it used to.  True, it still happens too much, but it's far from a common occurrence.

The thing about OJ is that racism did play a role in getting him off but not in the way that I think you are suggesting Ultimate Paragon. The reason OJ was acquitted was because the racist detectives at the LAPD decided to plant evidence to try and insure a conviction. Once the planted evidence was discovered it was too hard not to have reasonable doubt about the murder. Hence 'If the gloves don't fit, you must acquit!'.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 15, 2014, 08:16:26 pm
On the comic itself, I will point out the difference is that the one with the white guy getting murdered would end in everyone calling for the black groups heads, the other scenario would likely result in the white guys getting off scott free as they were simply defending themselves against the negro menace.
Did you come out of a time warp from the 1970s?
Yes, but I'm not sure why this has to do with my bitterness over the Trayvon martin case and about a half-dozen other cases of black guys getting killed and the murderer getting away shit-free because he/she (okay, he) was simply defending himself from the scary unarmed black teenager.
I think George Zimmerman is a brute, but I don't think he's a racist.  It seems likely that racism played a role in getting him off, but it also helped this guy:
(http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/dam/assets/130715142555-07-acquittals-oj-story-top.jpg)

Anyway, that kind of thing doesn't happen nearly as often as it used to.  True, it still happens too much, but it's far from a common occurrence.

The thing about OJ is that racism did play a role in getting him off but not in the way that I think you are suggesting Ultimate Paragon. The reason OJ was acquitted was because the racist detectives at the LAPD decided to plant evidence to try and insure a conviction. Once the planted evidence was discovered it was too hard not to have reasonable doubt about the murder. Hence 'If the gloves don't fit, you must acquit!'.
I was suggesting both, actually.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on April 15, 2014, 08:58:55 pm
I'm actually inbetween on the racism = power + prejudice thing.

On one hand, I do believe it is redefining a word to describe it like that.

On the other hand, it's handy because it spites the crackers who believe that racism against a white person is totes equivalent to racism against a black person.

Because, ya know, there's totally a history of black people oppressing white people as recently as this century and all.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 15, 2014, 09:03:45 pm
I'm actually inbetween on the racism = power + prejudice thing.

On one hand, I do believe it is redefining a word to describe it like that.

On the other hand, it's handy because it spites the crackers who believe that racism against a white person is totes equivalent to racism against a black person.

Because, ya know, there's totally a history of black people oppressing white people as recently as this century and all.
Um... Zimbabwe?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lt. Fred on April 15, 2014, 11:23:11 pm
I'm actually inbetween on the racism = power + prejudice thing.

On one hand, I do believe it is redefining a word to describe it like that.

On the other hand, it's handy because it spites the crackers who believe that racism against a white person is totes equivalent to racism against a black person.

Because, ya know, there's totally a history of black people oppressing white people as recently as this century and all.
Um... Zimbabwe?

Largely myth.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 15, 2014, 11:56:49 pm
I'm actually inbetween on the racism = power + prejudice thing.

On one hand, I do believe it is redefining a word to describe it like that.

On the other hand, it's handy because it spites the crackers who believe that racism against a white person is totes equivalent to racism against a black person.

Because, ya know, there's totally a history of black people oppressing white people as recently as this century and all.
Um... Zimbabwe?

Largely myth.
Uh, no.  Genocidewatch calls the persecution of whites in Zimbabwe a Stage 5 case.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lt. Fred on April 16, 2014, 12:24:28 am
I'm actually inbetween on the racism = power + prejudice thing.

On one hand, I do believe it is redefining a word to describe it like that.

On the other hand, it's handy because it spites the crackers who believe that racism against a white person is totes equivalent to racism against a black person.

Because, ya know, there's totally a history of black people oppressing white people as recently as this century and all.
Um... Zimbabwe?

Largely myth.
Uh, no.  Genocidewatch calls the persecution of whites in Zimbabwe a Stage 5 case.

As in, there is a certain degree of discrimination? It's absolutely ludicrous to call Zimbabwe's farm policy genocide.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 16, 2014, 12:27:34 am
I'm actually inbetween on the racism = power + prejudice thing.

On one hand, I do believe it is redefining a word to describe it like that.

On the other hand, it's handy because it spites the crackers who believe that racism against a white person is totes equivalent to racism against a black person.

Because, ya know, there's totally a history of black people oppressing white people as recently as this century and all.
Um... Zimbabwe?

Largely myth.
Uh, no.  Genocidewatch calls the persecution of whites in Zimbabwe a Stage 5 case.

As in, there is a certain degree of discrimination? It's absolutely ludicrous to call Zimbabwe's farm policy genocide.
True, but things are more than a little worrisome.  This kind of thing has been seen before, in Rwanda, Yugoslavia, Darfur, etc.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lt. Fred on April 16, 2014, 12:38:18 am
I'm actually inbetween on the racism = power + prejudice thing.

On one hand, I do believe it is redefining a word to describe it like that.

On the other hand, it's handy because it spites the crackers who believe that racism against a white person is totes equivalent to racism against a black person.

Because, ya know, there's totally a history of black people oppressing white people as recently as this century and all.
Um... Zimbabwe?

Largely myth.
Uh, no.  Genocidewatch calls the persecution of whites in Zimbabwe a Stage 5 case.

As in, there is a certain degree of discrimination? It's absolutely ludicrous to call Zimbabwe's farm policy genocide.
True, but things are more than a little worrisome.  This kind of thing has been seen before, in Rwanda, Yugoslavia, Darfur, etc.

Total crap. The only genocide this even remotely resembles is Rwanda - in the sense that the Tutsis, like white Zimbabweans, were willing participants in a colonial regime that committed acts that can be considered actual genocide.

The real tragedy of Zimbabwe is that the government was once legitimately trying to do the right thing - peacefully compensate the descendants of the white thieves for their bullshit land claims to almost all of Zimbabwe - but then a series of disasters basically stopped this. Obviously, Zimbabwe isn't going to actually enforce the bullshit land claims to their country, so the other alternative is violence. The other tragedy is that pretty effective militia leaders don't always make good heads of state. And the other other tragedy is that if you leave someone in charge of something for a while, eventually they will break it.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Sylvana on April 16, 2014, 03:21:32 am
The real tragedy of Zimbabwe is that the government was once legitimately trying to do the right thing - peacefully compensate the descendants of the white thieves for their bullshit land claims to almost all of Zimbabwe - but then a series of disasters basically stopped this. Obviously, Zimbabwe isn't going to actually enforce the bullshit land claims to their country, so the other alternative is violence. The other tragedy is that pretty effective militia leaders don't always make good heads of state. And the other other tragedy is that if you leave someone in charge of something for a while, eventually they will break it.

Zimbabwe is a lot more nuanced than that. It is far more about a corrupt militarily powerful clique controlling the country and plundering its wealth than it is about helping the people. While there is a degree of unjust land redistribution, it does not even come close to genocide. If anything the farm violence has for more to do with revenge and just basic thuggery and short sighted thievery.

In Zimbabwe right now, multinationals and whites are still surprisingly well looked after despite demands from government that those companies give a controlling share of their companies to the local population. (the local population being primarily anyone in the ZanuPF power clique.)

There really isn't any white genocide, even in Africa. Whites like to blow things out of proportion, but are still well looked after. Primarily because the people who would normally commit the genocide are kept in check by the black elites of the country who prefer the whites to be economically productive. As long as the whites are economically productive and pay taxes, then the country makes money, which allows the greed of the black elite to be satiated on imported luxuries.

Greed beats genocide every time. Quite often genocide is just a means of satiating some peoples greed.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: mellenORL on April 16, 2014, 10:07:23 am
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Greed beats genocide every time. Quite often genocide is just a means of satiating some peoples greed.

QFT. Greed is always at the heart of oppression, from invasion to pogrom and all the way up to the point of genocide. The strategy is as old as humanity. Hatred of the target people is stirred up by the attacking tribe, nation, or party leadership, and wrapped up in glorified patriotism, bigotry and religious fervor with every deliberate intent to "justify" the theft of the slaughtered peoples' land and wealth.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on April 16, 2014, 05:52:49 pm
I'm actually inbetween on the racism = power + prejudice thing.

On one hand, I do believe it is redefining a word to describe it like that.

On the other hand, it's handy because it spites the crackers who believe that racism against a white person is totes equivalent to racism against a black person.

Because, ya know, there's totally a history of black people oppressing white people as recently as this century and all.
Um... Zimbabwe?

My fault, I didn't specify "in the United States."
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 16, 2014, 05:59:06 pm
I'm actually inbetween on the racism = power + prejudice thing.

On one hand, I do believe it is redefining a word to describe it like that.

On the other hand, it's handy because it spites the crackers who believe that racism against a white person is totes equivalent to racism against a black person.

Because, ya know, there's totally a history of black people oppressing white people as recently as this century and all.
Um... Zimbabwe?

My fault, I didn't specify "in the United States."
It's okay.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on April 16, 2014, 06:14:52 pm
Good....

THE SUBJECT WILL NOW CHANGE!

What do you think about these babies?

(http://i58.tinypic.com/153v7ti.jpg)

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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 16, 2014, 07:26:03 pm
(http://i58.tinypic.com/153v7ti.jpg)
Somalia: A country that proves Objectivists wrong.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: lord gibbon on April 16, 2014, 07:28:10 pm
Somalia is like surface Rapture.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 16, 2014, 07:29:34 pm
Somalia is like surface Rapture.
You just hit the nail on the head.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: I am lizard on April 16, 2014, 08:42:49 pm
Somalia is like surface Rapture.
Without the plasmids.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 17, 2014, 12:57:31 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/OkSDmQC.jpg)

Now, in fairness, Condi is the only respectable woman named.  However, that doesn't excuse the blatantly misogynistic things that have been said about conservative women.  I don't like Robert Mugabe, but you don't hear me using the "N-Word" to describe him.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Sixth Monarchist on April 17, 2014, 03:46:20 pm
Somalia is like surface Rapture.
Without the plasmids.

To be fair, Somaliland is stable, Somalia fell into civil war after the collapse of a socialist government, and Objectivists aren't against all government and advocate basic law and order services. Of course, who's going to be a police detective when everyone in society is either a genius businessman and inventor allowed to roam free or a rightfully stomped-upon mediocrity isn't clear and never seems to be explained. It's almost like Atlas Shrugged is a wild oversimplification and you'd be a fucking moron to think it's an accurate depiction of society or real life.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 17, 2014, 04:45:43 pm
Somalia is like surface Rapture.
Without the plasmids.

To be fair, Somaliland is stable, Somalia fell into civil war after the collapse of a socialist government, and Objectivists aren't against all government and advocate basic law and order services. Of course, who's going to be a police detective when everyone in society is either a genius businessman and inventor allowed to roam free or a rightfully stomped-upon mediocrity isn't clear and never seems to be explained. It's almost like Atlas Shrugged is a wild oversimplification and you'd be a fucking moron to think it's an accurate depiction of society or real life.
It should also be noted that the creators of Bioshock don't like communism or jingoism either.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lt. Fred on April 17, 2014, 06:26:44 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/OkSDmQC.jpg)

Now, in fairness, Condi is the only respectable woman named.  However, that doesn't excuse the blatantly misogynistic things that have been said about conservative women.  I don't like Robert Mugabe, but you don't hear me using the "N-Word" to describe him.

It's possible that one or two liberals may have said something in passing that could be interpreted as unreasonable once or twice. Do they routinely call conservative women traitors without justification? Or whores? Sluts? Is that a political strategy? It is for the right.

This is a stupid cartoon. There's a difference between the usual rough-and-tumble of politics and a dedicated slanderous campaign of sexist lies.

Somalia is like surface Rapture.
Without the plasmids.

To be fair, Somaliland is stable, Somalia fell into civil war after the collapse of a socialist government, and Objectivists aren't against all government and advocate basic law and order services. Of course, who's going to be a police detective when everyone in society is either a genius businessman and inventor allowed to roam free or a rightfully stomped-upon mediocrity isn't clear and never seems to be explained. It's almost like Atlas Shrugged is a wild oversimplification and you'd be a fucking moron to think it's an accurate depiction of society or real life.

It'd be a bit silly to suggest that Somalia's situation can be explained by its prior developmental state. It'd also be just untrue to suggest that Somaliland has been made safe under any kind of system Randroids would be happy with.

Atlas Shrugged is a wild oversimplification the same way that the Protocols of the Elders of Zion is - it isn't. It's a lunatic and inaccurate attempt to shift blame for all ill on the victims of that ill and to give all credit for success on the people who tried to stop it.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: I am lizard on April 17, 2014, 08:40:45 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/OkSDmQC.jpg)

Now, in fairness, Condi is the only respectable woman named.  However, that doesn't excuse the blatantly misogynistic things that have been said about conservative women.  I don't like Robert Mugabe, but you don't hear me using the "N-Word" to describe him.
The cartoonist also seems to be a Rush Limbaugh apologist.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on April 17, 2014, 08:52:34 pm
It's possible that one or two liberals may have said something in passing that could be interpreted as unreasonable once or twice. Do they routinely call conservative women traitors without justification? Or whores? Sluts? Is that a political strategy? It is for the right.

While you do have a point, it does happen a lot more than "once or twice."  A lot of liberals, pundits or otherwise, can come across just as misogynistic as the Republicans, using degrading language towards Ann Coulter and Sarah Palin.

That being said, it's nowhere NEAR the level of misogyny and chauvinism that goes on in the Republican party right now, who only base women's importance on their beauty and little else.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 17, 2014, 09:21:13 pm
It's possible that one or two liberals may have said something in passing that could be interpreted as unreasonable once or twice. Do they routinely call conservative women traitors without justification? Or whores? Sluts? Is that a political strategy? It is for the right.

While you do have a point, it does happen a lot more than "once or twice."  A lot of liberals, pundits or otherwise, can come across just as misogynistic as the Republicans, using degrading language towards Ann Coulter and Sarah Palin.

That being said, it's nowhere NEAR the level of misogyny and chauvinism that goes on in the Republican party right now, who only base women's importance on their beauty and little else.
I agree, the GOP has more than its share of misogynists as well.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lt. Fred on April 17, 2014, 09:23:07 pm
It's possible that one or two liberals may have said something in passing that could be interpreted as unreasonable once or twice. Do they routinely call conservative women traitors without justification? Or whores? Sluts? Is that a political strategy? It is for the right.

While you do have a point, it does happen a lot more than "once or twice."  A lot of liberals, pundits or otherwise, can come across just as misogynistic as the Republicans, using degrading language towards Ann Coulter and Sarah Palin.

That being said, it's nowhere NEAR the level of misogyny and chauvinism that goes on in the Republican party right now, who only base women's importance on their beauty and little else.

Again, I think this is totally different. People get angry at conservative professional trolls because that's their job. If they occasionally let themselves go, that's understandable - though, of course, I agree they should be chided for doing so the rare times is actually occurs. If anything liberals are far too tolerant of this scum.

What isn't acceptable, of course, is the routine, deliberate and dishonest use of sexist language to de-legitimise the views of liberal women by the right.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: I am lizard on April 17, 2014, 10:22:28 pm
It's possible that one or two liberals may have said something in passing that could be interpreted as unreasonable once or twice. Do they routinely call conservative women traitors without justification? Or whores? Sluts? Is that a political strategy? It is for the right.

While you do have a point, it does happen a lot more than "once or twice."  A lot of liberals, pundits or otherwise, can come across just as misogynistic as the Republicans, using degrading language towards Ann Coulter and Sarah Palin.

That being said, it's nowhere NEAR the level of misogyny and chauvinism that goes on in the Republican party right now, who only base women's importance on their beauty and little else.
I agree, the GOP has more than its share of misogynists as well.
They're fuckin full of misogynists.

I believe just recently they had that person who wanted to legalize martial rape, not to mention the fact they've voted against both the equal pay act and the violence against women act.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: mellenORL on April 18, 2014, 09:32:38 am
Have to admit, I laughed at "Koch Whores", but that should be aimed at both sexes of right wingnuts.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on April 18, 2014, 09:42:42 am
It's possible that one or two liberals may have said something in passing that could be interpreted as unreasonable once or twice. Do they routinely call conservative women traitors without justification? Or whores? Sluts? Is that a political strategy? It is for the right.

While you do have a point, it does happen a lot more than "once or twice."  A lot of liberals, pundits or otherwise, can come across just as misogynistic as the Republicans, using degrading language towards Ann Coulter and Sarah Palin.

That being said, it's nowhere NEAR the level of misogyny and chauvinism that goes on in the Republican party right now, who only base women's importance on their beauty and little else.
I agree, the GOP has more than its share of misogynists as well.
They're fuckin full of misogynists.

I believe just recently they had that person who wanted to legalize martial rape, not to mention the fact they've voted against both the equal pay act and the violence against women act.

Martial rape or marital rape? There is a difference.

EDIT:
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Of course God uses british slang. After all, doesn't everyone know that the King James version of the bible is the one true bible so why on Earth would he use yankee english?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 18, 2014, 09:24:11 pm
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I lol'd.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 19, 2014, 07:04:12 pm
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 19, 2014, 07:12:10 pm
(http://media.cagle.com/29/2014/04/18/147312_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lt. Fred on April 19, 2014, 09:05:46 pm
(http://media.cagle.com/29/2014/04/18/147312_600.jpg)

It's obviously silly to compare the dishonest, politically motivated and destructive opposition to Obama with the principled, rational and fair-minded opposition to Bush. The comparison with Clinton is reasonable - Carter, too.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 19, 2014, 09:06:47 pm
(http://media.cagle.com/29/2014/04/18/147312_600.jpg)

It's obviously silly to compare the dishonest, politically motivated and destructive opposition to Obama with the principled, rational and fair-minded opposition to Bush. The comparison with Clinton is reasonable - Carter, too.
Again with your stupid partisanship.  Time for a court-martial, lieutenant.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: mellenORL on April 19, 2014, 09:10:34 pm
Fred's an Aussie. He gets a pass.

All recent presidents have had bad caricatures made of them and their effigies burned and other extreme looking protest memes, but Obama's roasting undeniably has been very racist in tone way too many times. Because we got a lot of dumbasses and hicks in this country. And now they all have internet access.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 19, 2014, 09:13:44 pm
Fred's an Aussie. He gets a pass.

All recent presidents have had bad caricatures made of them and their effigies burned and other extreme looking protest memes, but Obama's roasting undeniably has been very racist in tone way too many times. Because we got a lot of dumbasses and hicks in this country. And now they all have internet access.
I agree, too much criticism of Obama has racist undertones.  I doubt birtherism would have gained as much support if he were white.  However, that doesn't mean we should automatically dismiss his critics as racists.

Also, why exactly does he get a pass for being Australian?  Care to fill me in?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cerim Treascair on April 19, 2014, 09:22:29 pm
Fred's an Aussie. He gets a pass.

All recent presidents have had bad caricatures made of them and their effigies burned and other extreme looking protest memes, but Obama's roasting undeniably has been very racist in tone way too many times. Because we got a lot of dumbasses and hicks in this country. And now they all have internet access.
I agree, too much criticism of Obama has racist undertones.  I doubt birtherism would have gained as much support if he were white.  However, that doesn't mean we should automatically dismiss his critics as racists.

Also, why exactly does he get a pass for being Australian?  Care to fill me in?

To those of us in the states, Fred's pretty much just shy of being a 'goddamn Commie', politically (if I got this mixed up Fred, please correct me).  That being said, Fred, as much as he can antagonize a good chunk of us, because we frequently come to a head in arguments with him on this board, keeps our feet on the ground.  He does raise good points.  We're just un-used to views like his, because to many of us, they do seem extreme in some cases.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 19, 2014, 09:27:45 pm
Fred's an Aussie. He gets a pass.

All recent presidents have had bad caricatures made of them and their effigies burned and other extreme looking protest memes, but Obama's roasting undeniably has been very racist in tone way too many times. Because we got a lot of dumbasses and hicks in this country. And now they all have internet access.
I agree, too much criticism of Obama has racist undertones.  I doubt birtherism would have gained as much support if he were white.  However, that doesn't mean we should automatically dismiss his critics as racists.

Also, why exactly does he get a pass for being Australian?  Care to fill me in?

To those of us in the states, Fred's pretty much just shy of being a 'goddamn Commie', politically (if I got this mixed up Fred, please correct me).  That being said, Fred, as much as he can antagonize a good chunk of us, because we frequently come to a head in arguments with him on this board, keeps our feet on the ground.  He does raise good points.  We're just un-used to views like his, because to many of us, they do seem extreme in some cases.
I figured he was on the far-left.  After all, he's a Chavez apologist.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: mellenORL on April 19, 2014, 09:30:26 pm
Fred gets a pass because he is an armchair quarterback American, or dilettante observer. His comments are from his perspective as an Australian of his own stripe of political philosophy. He does have a good grasp of our history and governmental structure because he's studied it at Uni for years.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 19, 2014, 09:30:59 pm
Fred gets a pass because he is an armchair quarterback American, or dilettante observer. His comments are from his perspective as an Australian of his own stripe of political philosophy. He does have a good grasp of our history and governmental structure because he's studied it at Uni for years.
Okay.  Glad to have a little context.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on April 19, 2014, 11:07:49 pm
Yeah, it's XKCD. But it fits.

(http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/free_speech.png)

Alt text:

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I can't remember where I heard this, but someone once said that defending a position by citing free speech is sort of the ultimate concession; you're saying that the most compelling thing you can say for your position is that it's not literally illegal to express.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lt. Fred on April 20, 2014, 12:34:56 am
(http://media.cagle.com/29/2014/04/18/147312_600.jpg)

It's obviously silly to compare the dishonest, politically motivated and destructive opposition to Obama with the principled, rational and fair-minded opposition to Bush. The comparison with Clinton is reasonable - Carter, too.
Again with your stupid partisanship.  Time for a court-martial, lieutenant.

Obviously there was a certain degree of silliness regarding Bush, but largely this reflected honest disagreement with his policy - not dishonest personal hatred.

Basically, people hated Bush (from 2005-??) because they seriously and legitimately disagreed with his policy. That is exactly how politics is supposed to work. The Democrats, by and large, were even quite fair-minded about things - for instance, in the aftermath of 9/11, Democrats largely allowed Bush to go ahead with his chosen response, despite their deep and principled opposition to that approach. This was in part Bush's intimidation of opposition, but also Democrats recognised his "right to govern". Another example: Bush's totally illegitimate election was largely forgotten by Democrats - certainly, it was never made a significant political issue. Democrats hate Dick Cheney because he ordered people tortured. That's legitimate.

With Obama, the formula has been entirely reversed. The prior is "I hate Barack Obama". That is thought one, all other political views flow from that. Therefore, Obamacare is communism, despite Republicans universally supporting it a mere six years ago. In fact, this is true of all policy; Republicans do not hate Obama because they disagree with his policy, they pretend to disagree with his policy in order to justify their hatred of Barack Obama. Hence, negotiation with Obama is treason, compromise is treason, ect. It's entirely legitimate to sabotage the American economy for votes, because the biggest threat to the US economy is Obama's communist policy, which somehow caused the crisis in the first place.

And this is institutional and routine. This is as true of, say, Rick Santorum or of Rand Paul as it is of Joe who-is-not-a-plumber. The Tea party was established entirely on this principle: since Obama is a communist, anything he likes is communism. QED. (an aside; this is going to be a big problem for the party when they next win office. I wonder what they will do? Will they really try to repeal everything Obama has done - even the stuff that they the US system of government relies on, like executive orders- and purge all Obama appointees? Or will they just memory hole all the details, as they have the Carter administration, and just remember the slogan "Obama bad, four legs good"? My money's on the second. I fully expect Paulcare to be identical to Obamacare, minus the Medicaid increases).

This is deeply illegitimate and totally dishonest. A political system cannot run on that view. This is why the opposition to Obama is destructive- not because it goes too far (as with Clinton) or because it uses strong language (Bush) but because it's irrational.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 20, 2014, 08:22:31 am
Yeah, it's XKCD. But it fits.

(http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/free_speech.png)

Alt text:

Quote
I can't remember where I heard this, but someone once said that defending a position by citing free speech is sort of the ultimate concession; you're saying that the most compelling thing you can say for your position is that it's not literally illegal to express.
More people need to understand this.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 20, 2014, 09:59:32 am
(http://media.cagle.com/77/2014/03/18/145899_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RavynousHunter on April 20, 2014, 10:01:57 am
(http://media.cagle.com/77/2014/03/18/145899_600.jpg)

Tis funny, because I believe Vlad the Impaler is viewed as something of a folk hero in his home country.  Like, legitimate folk hero, not telling the media to make you into one because your cock's so infinitesimally small it may as well be a singularity.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Canadian Mojo on April 20, 2014, 10:03:39 am
With Obama, the formula has been entirely reversed. The prior is "I hate Barack Obama". That is thought one, all other political views flow from that. Therefore, Obamacare is communism, despite Republicans universally supporting it a mere six years ago. In fact, this is true of all policy; Republicans do not hate Obama because they disagree with his policy, they pretend to disagree with his policy in order to justify their hatred of Barack Obama. Hence, negotiation with Obama is treason, compromise is treason, ect. It's entirely legitimate to sabotage the American economy for votes, because the biggest threat to the US economy is Obama's communist policy, which somehow caused the crisis in the first place.
It's not hate, it's political strategy.

The Republicans are seeking to make his tenure as president a complete failure so that the Democrats have nothing to hold up as a success come the next election. Why vote for the Republicans if the Democrats can and will implement the exact same big pieces of society changing legislation that people want(i.e. health care)? They know they are about to start hemorrhaging voters in the next decade because their shrinking core insists on regressive policies and the growing numbers of moderates and independents, where elections are won and lost, are tiring of them. The only mechanism they have left to keep both groups in the fold is to cripple the opposition so the moderates can resign themselves to the fact that the only way forward at all is with the GOP.

It will destroy them, but it appears that they would rather go out in a blaze of glory than suffer a short term tactical loss and loose control for a while.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 20, 2014, 10:04:58 am
(http://media.cagle.com/77/2014/03/18/145899_600.jpg)

Tis funny, because I believe Vlad the Impaler is viewed as something of a folk hero in his home country.  Like, legitimate folk hero, not telling the media to make you into one because your cock's so infinitesimally small it may as well be a singularity.
It's mainly because he stood up to the Ottoman Empire.  People love a David vs. Goliath fight.  The same thing might have happened to Nicolae Ceaușescu too if he had gotten into a war with the Soviet Union.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on April 20, 2014, 10:36:12 am
(http://media.cagle.com/77/2014/03/18/145899_600.jpg)

Tis funny, because I believe Vlad the Impaler is viewed as something of a folk hero in his home country.  Like, legitimate folk hero, not telling the media to make you into one because your cock's so infinitesimally small it may as well be a singularity.

Plus, Vlad Dracula has a cooler outfit, inspired a famous vampire character & doesn't look like Frank Gorshin The House Elf. *BLEH BLAH*!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: R. U. Sirius on April 20, 2014, 12:13:52 pm
(http://media.cagle.com/77/2014/03/18/145899_600.jpg)

Tis funny, because I believe Vlad the Impaler is viewed as something of a folk hero in his home country.  Like, legitimate folk hero, not telling the media to make you into one because your cock's so infinitesimally small it may as well be a singularity.

Plus, Vlad Dracula has a cooler outfit, inspired a famous vampire character & doesn't look like Frank Gorshin The House Elf. *BLEH BLAH*!

From what I've read, Romanians actually tend to hate that most outsiders only know about Vlad through the vampire character, particularly since it's made Romania the target of constant parapsychologists and pseudo-scientists searching for "the truth behind the vampire legend."
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: lord gibbon on April 20, 2014, 04:04:51 pm
It must be noted that Vlad WAS a murderous psychopath. However, most of his nastiness was directed at the invading Ottomans, and the punishments on his people, sadly, weren't much worse that those in the rest of Europe.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 20, 2014, 05:01:01 pm
It must be noted that Vlad WAS a murderous psychopath. However, most of his nastiness was directed at the invading Ottomans, and the punishments on his people, sadly, weren't much worse that those in the rest of Europe.
Then why did his name become synonymous with cruelty?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Zygarde on April 20, 2014, 06:06:00 pm
Because when your known as the "Impaler" it's kind of hard not to be known like that.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 20, 2014, 07:17:12 pm
(http://media.cagle.com/142/2014/04/18/147361_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lt. Fred on April 20, 2014, 07:27:49 pm
And the alternative plan of action for Snowden is...?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 20, 2014, 07:29:09 pm
And the alternative plan of action for Snowden is...?
It was just commenting on the irony of Snowden seeking asylum in Russia.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lt. Fred on April 20, 2014, 07:45:05 pm
And the alternative plan of action for Snowden is...?
It was just commenting on the irony of Snowden seeking asylum in Russia.

As opposed to Venezuela?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 20, 2014, 07:46:46 pm
(http://media.cagle.com/82/2014/03/17/145828_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: R. U. Sirius on April 20, 2014, 08:12:29 pm
It must be noted that Vlad WAS a murderous psychopath. However, most of his nastiness was directed at the invading Ottomans, and the punishments on his people, sadly, weren't much worse that those in the rest of Europe.
Then why did his name become synonymous with cruelty?

Because he deliberately cultivated a reputation for it. Romania was a tiny country right in between some very big warring powers; the best way to secure its safety was to make sure everyone was scared shitless of the man himself.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 20, 2014, 08:14:34 pm
It must be noted that Vlad WAS a murderous psychopath. However, most of his nastiness was directed at the invading Ottomans, and the punishments on his people, sadly, weren't much worse that those in the rest of Europe.
Then why did his name become synonymous with cruelty?

Because he deliberately cultivated a reputation for it. Romania was a tiny country right in between some very big warring powers; the best way to secure its safety was to make sure everyone was scared shitless of the man himself.
Shrewd.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RavynousHunter on April 21, 2014, 12:23:33 pm
You had to be, in those times.  Hell, even nowadays, you have to be, just to a less life-ending extent...more that people are scared shitless of a country's ability to kill you in horrible ways, rather than actually doing it.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 21, 2014, 08:17:16 pm
You had to be, in those times.  Hell, even nowadays, you have to be, just to a less life-ending extent...more that people are scared shitless of a country's ability to kill you in horrible ways, rather than actually doing it.
Right on, brother.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 21, 2014, 08:26:20 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/ZOyRCQG.gif)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on April 21, 2014, 09:03:08 pm
(http://media.cagle.com/82/2014/04/15/147175_600.jpg)

I don't get it?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 21, 2014, 09:10:31 pm
(http://media.cagle.com/82/2014/04/15/147175_600.jpg)

I don't get it?
It's about the wage gap.  Ever hear of "77 cents on the dollar"?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on April 21, 2014, 11:30:01 pm
Is the lady meant to be anyone in particular?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: R. U. Sirius on April 21, 2014, 11:32:18 pm
I doubt it.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on April 22, 2014, 10:41:30 am
(http://i.imgur.com/ZOyRCQG.gif)

Love it! Terfs* drive me bonkers. Misandrist** meatheads like that drive Feminists like me cray-cray! Gals like that are a MASSIVE hindrance to Feminism! I refuse to call them Feminists or even RadFems. These are ***FemNazis!

*I'm calling them "Terfs" (from 'TERF') from now on. "RadFem" is too complimentary.

**I'm reclaiming this back from the MPBs ('Male Privilege Backlashers', because 'Men's Rights Advocate/MRA' is also a misnomer) because I shouldn't be a misogynist slur but rather a technical term/distaff counterpart.

***I'm reclaiming this from the Rush Limburger-Dittohead bunch & applying it only to Terfs! Godwins are ugly but Terfs propose the same mass-murder garbage as Hitler....except on all males.

One question; What's a "shim"?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ghoti on April 22, 2014, 11:33:11 am
A rude term for someone who's transgender. Similar to shemale, tranny, transvestite, etc.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 22, 2014, 11:38:15 am
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One question; What's a "shim"?

A transphobic slur.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: starseeker on April 22, 2014, 12:06:24 pm
Stupid question, but what's a TERF?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 22, 2014, 12:07:49 pm
Stupid question, but what's a TERF?
It's an acronym that stands for Trans-Exclusive Radical Feminist.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: starseeker on April 22, 2014, 12:10:41 pm
Stupid question, but what's a TERF?
It's an acronym that stands for Trans-Exclusive Radical Feminist.

So like the Diannic Wicca ladies?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on April 22, 2014, 02:02:23 pm
Stupid question, but what's a TERF?
It's an acronym that stands for Trans-Exclusive Radical Feminist.

So like the Diannic Wicca ladies?

Precisely.

Though I do believe that quite a few Dianic Wiccan covens splintered off from the main group by becoming accepting of trans women, after the controversy that happened at that one event.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 22, 2014, 03:03:06 pm
Stupid question, but what's a TERF?
It's an acronym that stands for Trans-Exclusive Radical Feminist.

So like the Diannic Wicca ladies?

Precisely.

Though I do believe that quite a few Dianic Wiccan covens splintered off from the main group by becoming accepting of trans women, after the controversy that happened at that one event.
Are they really accepting, or do they just say they are?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on April 22, 2014, 03:18:51 pm
Stupid question, but what's a TERF?
It's an acronym that stands for Trans-Exclusive Radical Feminist.

So like the Diannic Wicca ladies?

Precisely.

Though I do believe that quite a few Dianic Wiccan covens splintered off from the main group by becoming accepting of trans women, after the controversy that happened at that one event.
Are they really accepting, or do they just say they are?

Ask them, I'm not interested in Dianic Wicca :P

I would hope they're really accepting.  Otherwise they rebelled for nothing.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 22, 2014, 03:54:55 pm
While we're on the subject:

(http://oi58.tinypic.com/34q0bqx.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: R. U. Sirius on April 22, 2014, 04:50:58 pm
Stupid question, but what's a TERF?
It's an acronym that stands for Trans-Exclusive Radical Feminist.

So like the Diannic Wicca ladies?

Precisely.

Though I do believe that quite a few Dianic Wiccan covens splintered off from the main group by becoming accepting of trans women, after the controversy that happened at that one event.
Are they really accepting, or do they just say they are?

Ask them, I'm not interested in Dianic Wicca :P

I would hope they're really accepting.  Otherwise they rebelled for nothing.

What controversy are you talking about?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on April 22, 2014, 06:07:11 pm
Stupid question, but what's a TERF?
It's an acronym that stands for Trans-Exclusive Radical Feminist.

So like the Diannic Wicca ladies?

Precisely.

Though I do believe that quite a few Dianic Wiccan covens splintered off from the main group by becoming accepting of trans women, after the controversy that happened at that one event.
Are they really accepting, or do they just say they are?

Ask them, I'm not interested in Dianic Wicca :P

I would hope they're really accepting.  Otherwise they rebelled for nothing.

What controversy are you talking about?

There was an event (like some sort of pagan convention) where a Dianic Wiccan coven/group of covens turned away transwomen from a skyclad event (read: naked dancing) because "seeing penises in their group would traumatize these women" and how Dianic Wicca was "only for real women" or something like that.

These are the kinds of Dianic Wiccans that tend to be labeled "TERFs".
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on April 22, 2014, 06:47:07 pm
A rude term for someone who's transgender. Similar to shemale, tranny, transvestite, etc.

I see, thanks!


Stupid question, but what's a TERF?
It's an acronym that stands for Trans-Exclusive Radical Feminist.

So like the Diannic Wicca ladies?

Precisely.

Though I do believe that quite a few Dianic Wiccan covens splintered off from the main group by becoming accepting of trans women, after the controversy that happened at that one event.
Are they really accepting, or do they just say they are?

Ask them, I'm not interested in Dianic Wicca :P

I would hope they're really accepting.  Otherwise they rebelled for nothing.

What controversy are you talking about?

There was an event (like some sort of pagan convention) where a Dianic Wiccan coven/group of covens turned away transwomen from a skyclad event (read: naked dancing) because "seeing penises in their group would traumatize these women" and how Dianic Wicca was "only for real women" or something like that.

These are the kinds of Dianic Wiccans that tend to be labeled "TERFs".

Yuck, like weirdos such as Wotan's Krieger, they give NeoPaganism a bad name.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 22, 2014, 11:03:36 pm
A rude term for someone who's transgender. Similar to shemale, tranny, transvestite, etc.

I see, thanks!


Stupid question, but what's a TERF?
It's an acronym that stands for Trans-Exclusive Radical Feminist.

So like the Diannic Wicca ladies?

Precisely.

Though I do believe that quite a few Dianic Wiccan covens splintered off from the main group by becoming accepting of trans women, after the controversy that happened at that one event.
Are they really accepting, or do they just say they are?

Ask them, I'm not interested in Dianic Wicca :P

I would hope they're really accepting.  Otherwise they rebelled for nothing.

What controversy are you talking about?

There was an event (like some sort of pagan convention) where a Dianic Wiccan coven/group of covens turned away transwomen from a skyclad event (read: naked dancing) because "seeing penises in their group would traumatize these women" and how Dianic Wicca was "only for real women" or something like that.

These are the kinds of Dianic Wiccans that tend to be labeled "TERFs".

Yuck, like weirdos such as Wotan's Krieger, they give NeoPaganism a bad name.
There are people in every belief system who give it a bad name.  Christian, Muslim, Jewish, Atheist, Hindu, Sikh, Buddhist, Agnostic, etc.  We really need to learn to focus on the religion as a whole, rather than its worst members.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on April 22, 2014, 11:22:34 pm
Technically, focusing on religion as a whole includes its worst members, rather than excludes them.

Like, I'm not gonna cry if people complain about all the racist, white supremacy fuckwits in Asatru and other Norse-related religions.  They need to be complained about.  Not to mention the conservative nature and a militarism that puts fundamentalist Christianity (at least in its current state) to shame.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 23, 2014, 12:49:58 am
Technically, focusing on religion as a whole includes its worst members, rather than excludes them.

Like, I'm not gonna cry if people complain about all the racist, white supremacy fuckwits in Asatru and other Norse-related religions.  They need to be complained about.  Not to mention the conservative nature and a militarism that puts fundamentalist Christianity (at least in its current state) to shame.
What I'm saying is that we shouldn't judge these religions by the assholes who happen to be members.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Canadian Mojo on April 23, 2014, 01:07:00 pm
Technically, focusing on religion as a whole includes its worst members, rather than excludes them.

Like, I'm not gonna cry if people complain about all the racist, white supremacy fuckwits in Asatru and other Norse-related religions.  They need to be complained about.  Not to mention the conservative nature and a militarism that puts fundamentalist Christianity (at least in its current state) to shame.
What I'm saying is that we shouldn't judge these religions by the assholes who happen to be members.

But it is somewhat disingenuous to not judge religions when entire branches are populated by assholes and the conspicuously silent. In some instances it would be fairer to label them as assholes and make note of the exceptions. American evangelical Protestantism and homosexuality or Roman Catholicism and abortion for example.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 23, 2014, 03:55:29 pm
(http://oi62.tinypic.com/35i4wae.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on April 23, 2014, 04:27:27 pm
(http://oi62.tinypic.com/35i4wae.jpg)
We have had this comic here before.

...I still think that the cutest part is how the colours of their hands are mixing a bit.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 23, 2014, 04:43:42 pm
(http://oi62.tinypic.com/35i4wae.jpg)
We have had this comic here before.

...I still think that the cutest part is how the colours of their hands are mixing a bit.
Sorry.

I didn't notice that!  Thanks for pointing it out.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: I am lizard on April 23, 2014, 08:53:30 pm
(http://oi62.tinypic.com/35i4wae.jpg)
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/f82014bcf9795dfdeb7796aaf7b80d92/tumblr_mp3gn6GEYb1rl78cpo1_500.png)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 23, 2014, 08:54:21 pm
(http://oi62.tinypic.com/35i4wae.jpg)
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/f82014bcf9795dfdeb7796aaf7b80d92/tumblr_mp3gn6GEYb1rl78cpo1_500.png)
Where's that from?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: I am lizard on April 23, 2014, 09:02:03 pm
(http://oi62.tinypic.com/35i4wae.jpg)
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/f82014bcf9795dfdeb7796aaf7b80d92/tumblr_mp3gn6GEYb1rl78cpo1_500.png)
Where's that from?
Somewhere, I think, maybe.

No clue.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 23, 2014, 09:04:11 pm
(http://oi62.tinypic.com/35i4wae.jpg)
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/f82014bcf9795dfdeb7796aaf7b80d92/tumblr_mp3gn6GEYb1rl78cpo1_500.png)
Where's that from?
Somewhere, I think, maybe.

No clue.
Okay.  Just wondering.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: chad sexington on April 23, 2014, 11:22:54 pm
(http://oi62.tinypic.com/35i4wae.jpg)
We have had this comic here before.

I haven't seen it.



(http://24.media.tumblr.com/f82014bcf9795dfdeb7796aaf7b80d92/tumblr_mp3gn6GEYb1rl78cpo1_500.png)

And what the hell is this? :o
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: I am lizard on April 23, 2014, 11:38:52 pm
(http://oi62.tinypic.com/35i4wae.jpg)
We have had this comic here before.

I haven't seen it.



(http://24.media.tumblr.com/f82014bcf9795dfdeb7796aaf7b80d92/tumblr_mp3gn6GEYb1rl78cpo1_500.png)

And what the hell is this? :o
A metaphor.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RavynousHunter on April 24, 2014, 08:26:16 am
A metaphor?  Is that a metaphor as seen by Cthulhu or what?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 24, 2014, 08:37:31 am
(http://oi59.tinypic.com/2u7up2t.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RavynousHunter on April 24, 2014, 08:52:12 am
Are the girls from column A all the same person?  Same with column B.  Because I find it a tad suspect that a nerd would end up a housewife.  I dunno...it just seems unlikely; they're more likely to be the ones that "care more about their careers."

Also, since when is "babymaker" an insult?  I thought the proper term was "breeder."
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Sleepy on April 24, 2014, 09:25:46 am
"Babymaker" implies that's all they're good for, or that it's their primary purpose.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 24, 2014, 09:27:31 am
"Babymaker" implies that's all they're good for, or that it's their primary purpose.
Yeah.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: I am lizard on April 24, 2014, 10:37:03 am
A metaphor?  Is that a metaphor as seen by Cthulhu or what?
Worse, Tumblr.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 24, 2014, 11:33:25 am
I say it's time we used the SJWs' tactics against them.

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/9e02e8e516edc4e9d066ba4ef4c4bc8d/tumblr_n424mjT83K1rqcv6bo1_1280.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RavynousHunter on April 24, 2014, 05:56:03 pm
"Babymaker" implies that's all they're good for, or that it's their primary purpose.
Yeah.

I was taking the piss, ya know.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: I am lizard on April 24, 2014, 06:14:48 pm
I say it's time we used the SJWs' tactics against them.

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/9e02e8e516edc4e9d066ba4ef4c4bc8d/tumblr_n424mjT83K1rqcv6bo1_1280.jpg)
How do I know that guy wasn't being a douche before.
We don't know why she bring up privet age, it could have been because he was saying something g about how he thinks the Gayz and trannzzz are controlling the nation and hetero people are the ones who are really oppressed.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on April 24, 2014, 06:18:05 pm
Wow, I really want to punch that guy in the face in that comic.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 24, 2014, 07:46:41 pm
(http://media.cagle.com/139/2014/04/22/147482_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 24, 2014, 09:43:12 pm
(http://media.cagle.com/123/2013/11/11/139967_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 24, 2014, 09:45:34 pm
(http://media.cagle.com/34/2011/11/03/100376_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 24, 2014, 09:45:57 pm
(http://media.cagle.com/77/2013/03/28/129436_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 24, 2014, 09:48:01 pm
(http://media.cagle.com/89/2014/04/24/147613_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cataclysm on April 24, 2014, 10:27:37 pm
Did you have to make 4 posts within a minute?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 24, 2014, 10:31:07 pm
Did you have to make 4 posts within a minute?
Sorry.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on April 25, 2014, 12:13:07 am
Did you have to make 4 posts within a minute?
Sorry.
There is an edit function. In the future, if your post is the last one in the thread edit it rather than do a double- (or quadruple) post. Or else.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on April 25, 2014, 03:06:04 am
(http://media.cagle.com/34/2011/11/03/100376_600.jpg)

Did that picture really have to use Steve Jobs...?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 25, 2014, 08:13:21 am
(http://oi58.tinypic.com/fmkhs7.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: I am lizard on April 25, 2014, 08:49:57 am
(http://oi58.tinypic.com/fmkhs7.jpg)
Lol, I've seen that cartoonist before.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: mellenORL on April 25, 2014, 11:24:00 am
(http://media.cagle.com/34/2011/11/03/100376_600.jpg)

Did that picture really have to use Steve Jobs...?

I've no idea if Bill Gates was teased or bullied as a youngster, but he had the classic nerdy look, and was small in stature. He'd have been a much more suitable example than Jobs for this cartoon. Gates at least has tried, with success, to help the less fortunate in many ways, and has shed himself of the bulk of his wealth to fund those projects. It never ceases to amaze me how little Job's fans must actually know about who he was and what he did.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on April 25, 2014, 02:26:23 pm
(http://oi58.tinypic.com/fmkhs7.jpg)
Lol, I've seen that cartoonist before.

The "peg-head" guy made me chuckle.


(http://media.cagle.com/34/2011/11/03/100376_600.jpg)

Did that picture really have to use Steve Jobs...?

I've no idea if Bill Gates was teased or bullied as a youngster, but he had the classic nerdy look, and was small in stature. He'd have been a much more suitable example than Jobs for this cartoon. Gates at least has tried, with success, to help the less fortunate in many ways, and has shed himself of the bulk of his wealth to fund those projects. It never ceases to amaze me how little Job's fans must actually know about who he was and what he did.

I was thinking the same. Also, I think young Nerd-Boy Gates was utterly ADORKABLE!
(http://i57.tinypic.com/29l1jeb.jpg)(http://i60.tinypic.com/23wogpd.jpg)
B'aaawwwwwwww....cute nerdy dork-boy!

(Of course, I think Jobs was hunkalicious as a youth, too but Gates is a better person in comparison...even if he was a bit of an ego-head as well, back in the day).
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 25, 2014, 02:28:09 pm
(http://oi58.tinypic.com/fmkhs7.jpg)
Lol, I've seen that cartoonist before.

The "peg-head" guy made me chuckle.
Same.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on April 25, 2014, 02:31:40 pm
-snip-

Did that picture really have to use Steve Jobs...?

I've no idea if Bill Gates was teased or bullied as a youngster, but he had the classic nerdy look, and was small in stature. He'd have been a much more suitable example than Jobs for this cartoon. Gates at least has tried, with success, to help the less fortunate in many ways, and has shed himself of the bulk of his wealth to fund those projects. It never ceases to amaze me how little Job's fans must actually know about who he was and what he did.

Jobs is something of a bully himself, as well, which is why I questioned the use of it.

Not to mention there's easily dozens of other notable examples that could apply to this cartoon.

And they chose the guy who, in my opinion, was least qualified for it.

Steve Jobs doesn't look nerdy.  He looks like a hipster.

Probably codified the look, to be honest.

On the topic of that comic: I wonder how a peg-head would actually work......
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on April 25, 2014, 02:35:35 pm
-snip-

Did that picture really have to use Steve Jobs...?

I've no idea if Bill Gates was teased or bullied as a youngster, but he had the classic nerdy look, and was small in stature. He'd have been a much more suitable example than Jobs for this cartoon. Gates at least has tried, with success, to help the less fortunate in many ways, and has shed himself of the bulk of his wealth to fund those projects. It never ceases to amaze me how little Job's fans must actually know about who he was and what he did.

Jobs is something of a bully himself, as well, which is why I questioned the use of it.

Not to mention there's easily dozens of other notable examples that could apply to this cartoon.

And they chose the guy who, in my opinion, was least qualified for it.

Steve Jobs doesn't look nerdy.  He looks like a hipster.

Probably codified the look, to be honest.

On the topic of that comic: I wonder how a peg-head would actually work......

Well, was a bully. He's dead, now.

About "Peg-Head", I laughed because it's so absurd.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on April 25, 2014, 02:36:16 pm
Sorry, sleep deprived, meant "was".
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 25, 2014, 02:38:17 pm
Sorry, sleep deprived, meant "was".
Get some rest.  If you haven't got your health, you've got nothing.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on April 25, 2014, 02:40:47 pm
Yes, snooze. 8)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 25, 2014, 02:43:18 pm
Rest helps.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on April 25, 2014, 02:45:35 pm
I'm sleep deprived because my loving father kept letting (and shutting) the cat in my room, and my cat kept waking me up throughout the night.

I can't take a nap because, otherwise, I won't sleep tonight, and I need to get to bed at reasonable times so I can wake up as early as noon.

Being born with a sleep dysfunction really sucks.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 25, 2014, 02:52:10 pm
I'm sleep deprived because my loving father kept letting (and shutting) the cat in my room, and my cat kept waking me up throughout the night.

I can't take a nap because, otherwise, I won't sleep tonight, and I need to get to bed at reasonable times so I can wake up as early as noon.

Being born with a sleep dysfunction really sucks.
I completely sympathize.  I used to suffer from insomnia.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on April 25, 2014, 03:03:08 pm
It's not insomnia so much as an inability to fall asleep like a regular person.  It takes anywhere from an hour to three hours for me to fall asleep, no matter how sleepy or tired I am.  And when I try to make myself go to sleep sooner, it can take even longer to fall asleep.

There's been more than one night where I've gone to bed and just never fallen asleep.

Counting sheep doesn't work, either.  In fact, I think it ends up making it harder to fall asleep.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 25, 2014, 03:11:02 pm
It's not insomnia so much as an inability to fall asleep like a regular person.  It takes anywhere from an hour to three hours for me to fall asleep, no matter how sleepy or tired I am.  And when I try to make myself go to sleep sooner, it can take even longer to fall asleep.

There's been more than one night where I've gone to bed and just never fallen asleep.

Counting sheep doesn't work, either.  In fact, I think it ends up making it harder to fall asleep.
Have you tried imagining a relaxing scene?

You know, maybe we should start another thread about this.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on April 25, 2014, 03:16:35 pm
It's not insomnia so much as an inability to fall asleep like a regular person.  It takes anywhere from an hour to three hours for me to fall asleep, no matter how sleepy or tired I am.  And when I try to make myself go to sleep sooner, it can take even longer to fall asleep.

There's been more than one night where I've gone to bed and just never fallen asleep.

Counting sheep doesn't work, either.  In fact, I think it ends up making it harder to fall asleep.
Have you tried imagining a relaxing scene?

You know, maybe we should start another thread about this.

I've tried every trick in the book, including relaxing scenes.

It's a neurological issue, it's not something that can be cured like insomnia.  It's something I'm going to have for my entire life.

Also, fun fact, I almost said nostalgia instead of insomnia.

Regardless, I appreciate your concern, but it's not something that people on the internet can fix.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 25, 2014, 03:19:39 pm
Okay.  Sorry man.

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/54769e2e3e0301b525a81f67386b1a8e/tumblr_n39gkcBqKb1rdwac3o1_500.jpg)
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/40a343fc50b72b11f28b99617fa763f9/tumblr_n39gkcBqKb1rdwac3o2_500.jpg)
(http://31.media.tumblr.com/ec10f87279f8770940c84d0f9fdec666/tumblr_n39gkcBqKb1rdwac3o3_500.jpg)
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/728036226f1445b1d439a8a397fed9fb/tumblr_n39gkcBqKb1rdwac3o4_500.jpg)
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/dc35afa3c4ae2b3b605064e1f88f19e9/tumblr_n39gkcBqKb1rdwac3o5_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cataclysm on April 25, 2014, 06:34:05 pm
(https://scontent-b-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/t1.0-9/10169285_611395522276173_4851827203717748788_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 25, 2014, 06:38:51 pm
I say the government should confiscate Bundy's ranch and cattle.  His actions have gone beyond the pale.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: mellenORL on April 25, 2014, 09:08:17 pm
I read that he also is a melon farmer. He can graze his herd on his melons. Seriously, depending on the variety of melon, the leaves and shoots could be good fodder for them. But I wonder....does he also steal groundwater from underneath the federal rangelands, to water his melon crop?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 25, 2014, 09:20:31 pm
(http://media.cagle.com/112/2014/04/25/147654_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on April 25, 2014, 11:58:57 pm
I'm sleep deprived because my loving father kept letting (and shutting) the cat in my room, and my cat kept waking me up throughout the night.

I can't take a nap because, otherwise, I won't sleep tonight, and I need to get to bed at reasonable times so I can wake up as early as noon.

Being born with a sleep dysfunction really sucks.

Can you explain to him why the cat thing is a total fail to you?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lt. Fred on April 26, 2014, 01:20:07 am
I read that he also is a melon farmer. He can graze his herd on his melons. Seriously, depending on the variety of melon, the leaves and shoots could be good fodder for them. But I wonder....does he also steal groundwater from underneath the federal rangelands, to water his melon crop?

If Clive Bundy were a Muslim, there would have been at least three killed and Fox would have lamented the rise of terrorism among the Islamic youth of America.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on April 26, 2014, 01:24:27 am
I'm sleep deprived because my loving father kept letting (and shutting) the cat in my room, and my cat kept waking me up throughout the night.

I can't take a nap because, otherwise, I won't sleep tonight, and I need to get to bed at reasonable times so I can wake up as early as noon.

Being born with a sleep dysfunction really sucks.

Can you explain to him why the cat thing is a total fail to you?

I have tried.  Repeatedly.  He keeps going with the "But he's bothering me." defense.

I would argue it, but you don't argue with my father.  You don't criticize him, either, because that's insulting.

Oddly, he enjoys it when I talk back, because he wants me to be this rebellious youth because that's a masculine thing.  So I don't bother talking back.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: fancy_kitten on April 26, 2014, 06:31:09 am
Okay.  Sorry man.

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/54769e2e3e0301b525a81f67386b1a8e/tumblr_n39gkcBqKb1rdwac3o1_500.jpg)
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/40a343fc50b72b11f28b99617fa763f9/tumblr_n39gkcBqKb1rdwac3o2_500.jpg)
(http://31.media.tumblr.com/ec10f87279f8770940c84d0f9fdec666/tumblr_n39gkcBqKb1rdwac3o3_500.jpg)
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/728036226f1445b1d439a8a397fed9fb/tumblr_n39gkcBqKb1rdwac3o4_500.jpg)
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/dc35afa3c4ae2b3b605064e1f88f19e9/tumblr_n39gkcBqKb1rdwac3o5_500.jpg)

Class privilege is a thing yo.  Also, I never heard anyone claim that privilege was some kind of contest where you score points by being oppressed in as many ways as possible, and in fact have pretty much only seen people argue the exact opposite.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RavynousHunter on April 26, 2014, 07:52:46 am
Class privilege is a thing yo.  Also, I never heard anyone claim that privilege was some kind of contest where you score points by being oppressed in as many ways as possible, and in fact have pretty much only seen people argue the exact opposite.

Eh, you're new here, so I'll cut ya a little slack.  You're thinking in normal SJ terms.  The terms that are totally reasonable and understandable and not founded on pure, coked-up insanity.  The pics are likely talking about social justice warriors; the kind who bitch about white people so much as being allowed to live while complaining that fucking otherkin are oppressed in any real sense of the term.  People like Redd.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: fancy_kitten on April 26, 2014, 08:09:58 am
Class privilege is a thing yo.  Also, I never heard anyone claim that privilege was some kind of contest where you score points by being oppressed in as many ways as possible, and in fact have pretty much only seen people argue the exact opposite.

Eh, you're new here, so I'll cut ya a little slack.  You're thinking in normal SJ terms.  The terms that are totally reasonable and understandable and not founded on pure, coked-up insanity.  The pics are likely talking about social justice warriors; the kind who bitch about white people so much as being allowed to live while complaining that fucking otherkin are oppressed in any real sense of the term.  People like Redd.

Okay, that's probably why.  Considering I tend to unfollow people who do stuff like that in a heartbeat that could be why I haven't been exposed to it as much.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Patches on April 26, 2014, 08:11:34 am
Class privilege is a thing yo.  Also, I never heard anyone claim that privilege was some kind of contest where you score points by being oppressed in as many ways as possible, and in fact have pretty much only seen people argue the exact opposite.

The Privilege Test (http://www.buzzfeed.com/regajha/how-privileged-are-you), where you score points by being oppressed in as many ways as possible.

Bonus for having it be artificially weighted by having multiple questions mean almost exactly the same thing.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: fancy_kitten on April 26, 2014, 08:20:17 am
Class privilege is a thing yo.  Also, I never heard anyone claim that privilege was some kind of contest where you score points by being oppressed in as many ways as possible, and in fact have pretty much only seen people argue the exact opposite.

The Privilege Test (http://www.buzzfeed.com/regajha/how-privileged-are-you), where you score points by being oppressed in as many ways as possible.

Bonus for having it be artificially weighted by having multiple questions mean almost exactly the same thing.

Keep in mind that Buzzfeed also has quizzes that tell you where you should live based on when you liked Beyoncé better and tells you how moral of a person you are based on which coat of arms you think looks cool.  I don't think Buzzfeed quizzes are meant to be taken seriously.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on April 26, 2014, 09:46:36 am
I'm sleep deprived because my loving father kept letting (and shutting) the cat in my room, and my cat kept waking me up throughout the night.

I can't take a nap because, otherwise, I won't sleep tonight, and I need to get to bed at reasonable times so I can wake up as early as noon.

Being born with a sleep dysfunction really sucks.

Can you explain to him why the cat thing is a total fail to you?

I have tried.  Repeatedly.  He keeps going with the "But he's bothering me." defense.

I would argue it, but you don't argue with my father.  You don't criticize him, either, because that's insulting.

Oddly, he enjoys it when I talk back, because he wants me to be this rebellious youth because that's a masculine thing.  So I don't bother talking back.

Oh, one of those kinds of dads. I feel for ya, man.

Maybe there's some meds or supplements you can take to help put you to sleep. Maybe you can research some supplements online that can conk you out.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 26, 2014, 09:51:39 am
Class privilege is a thing yo.  Also, I never heard anyone claim that privilege was some kind of contest where you score points by being oppressed in as many ways as possible, and in fact have pretty much only seen people argue the exact opposite.

Eh, you're new here, so I'll cut ya a little slack.  You're thinking in normal SJ terms.  The terms that are totally reasonable and understandable and not founded on pure, coked-up insanity.  The pics are likely talking about social justice warriors; the kind who bitch about white people so much as being allowed to live while complaining that fucking otherkin are oppressed in any real sense of the term.  People like Redd.

Okay, that's probably why.  Considering I tend to unfollow people who do stuff like that in a heartbeat that could be why I haven't been exposed to it as much.
Okay, that makes sense.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 26, 2014, 02:03:45 pm
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on April 26, 2014, 02:08:08 pm
I'm sleep deprived because my loving father kept letting (and shutting) the cat in my room, and my cat kept waking me up throughout the night.

I can't take a nap because, otherwise, I won't sleep tonight, and I need to get to bed at reasonable times so I can wake up as early as noon.

Being born with a sleep dysfunction really sucks.

Can you explain to him why the cat thing is a total fail to you?

I have tried.  Repeatedly.  He keeps going with the "But he's bothering me." defense.

I would argue it, but you don't argue with my father.  You don't criticize him, either, because that's insulting.

Oddly, he enjoys it when I talk back, because he wants me to be this rebellious youth because that's a masculine thing.  So I don't bother talking back.

Oh, one of those kinds of dads. I feel for ya, man.

Maybe there's some meds or supplements you can take to help put you to sleep. Maybe you can research some supplements online that can conk you out.

Zzzquil sorta works, but it also leaves me fairly... zonked out the next day, so it's six of one, half a dozen of another.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 26, 2014, 02:13:14 pm
I'm sleep deprived because my loving father kept letting (and shutting) the cat in my room, and my cat kept waking me up throughout the night.

I can't take a nap because, otherwise, I won't sleep tonight, and I need to get to bed at reasonable times so I can wake up as early as noon.

Being born with a sleep dysfunction really sucks.

Can you explain to him why the cat thing is a total fail to you?

I have tried.  Repeatedly.  He keeps going with the "But he's bothering me." defense.

I would argue it, but you don't argue with my father.  You don't criticize him, either, because that's insulting.

Oddly, he enjoys it when I talk back, because he wants me to be this rebellious youth because that's a masculine thing.  So I don't bother talking back.

Oh, one of those kinds of dads. I feel for ya, man.

Maybe there's some meds or supplements you can take to help put you to sleep. Maybe you can research some supplements online that can conk you out.

Zzzquil sorta works, but it also leaves me fairly... zonked out the next day, so it's six of one, half a dozen of another.
That sounds rough.

(http://media.cagle.com/47/2014/04/25/147665_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: fancy_kitten on April 26, 2014, 04:45:05 pm
A metaphor?  Is that a metaphor as seen by Cthulhu or what?

Are you seriously telling me you've never heard of Ratboy Genius? 
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: R. U. Sirius on April 26, 2014, 04:49:46 pm
A metaphor?  Is that a metaphor as seen by Cthulhu or what?

Are you seriously telling me you've never heard of Ratboy Genius?

To which my question is, "What kind of a genius calls himself Ratboy?"

In a word, no.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: fancy_kitten on April 26, 2014, 04:54:18 pm
A metaphor?  Is that a metaphor as seen by Cthulhu or what?

Are you seriously telling me you've never heard of Ratboy Genius?

To which my question is, "What kind of a genius calls himself Ratboy?"

In a word, no.

Oh.  Well Ratboy Genius is an amazing Flash series about the adventures of a yellow rat who is also a genius.  Since I don't want to derail this thread, the post Rayvonous was replying to was of a post taking the second frame from the "This is feminism" meme and replacing it with a bunch of random stills of one of the characters from Ratboy Genius.  It is intended to ridicule that meme by... making fun of it, I guess.  It's an ongoing thing.  My personal favorite is the one where the replaced the "THIS is feminism" image with a picture of a funny green alien.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 26, 2014, 05:28:00 pm
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lt. Fred on April 26, 2014, 05:58:27 pm
(http://media.cagle.com/77/2014/04/23/147575_600.jpg)

Why is the answer not "shoot you all right in the face with this tank I have here" as it would be with any lefty or Islamic terrorist organisation?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Sigmaleph on April 26, 2014, 06:22:35 pm
What has he done that qualifies as terrorism?

(Not a rhetorical question, I simply haven't been following the story)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lt. Fred on April 26, 2014, 07:19:17 pm
Tried to prevent Federal officials from upholding a court order using firearms.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 26, 2014, 08:02:11 pm
(http://media.cagle.com/82/2014/04/25/147671_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RavynousHunter on April 26, 2014, 08:33:44 pm
A metaphor?  Is that a metaphor as seen by Cthulhu or what?

Are you seriously telling me you've never heard of Ratboy Genius?

To which my question is, "What kind of a genius calls himself Ratboy?"

In a word, no.

Oh.  Well Ratboy Genius is an amazing Flash series about the adventures of a yellow rat who is also a genius.  Since I don't want to derail this thread, the post Rayvonous was replying to was of a post taking the second frame from the "This is feminism" meme and replacing it with a bunch of random stills of one of the characters from Ratboy Genius.  It is intended to ridicule that meme by... making fun of it, I guess.  It's an ongoing thing.  My personal favorite is the one where the replaced the "THIS is feminism" image with a picture of a funny green alien.

Aah, that'd explain it.  I've never been one for flash series outside Xiao Xiao.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 26, 2014, 08:36:47 pm
A metaphor?  Is that a metaphor as seen by Cthulhu or what?

Are you seriously telling me you've never heard of Ratboy Genius?

To which my question is, "What kind of a genius calls himself Ratboy?"

In a word, no.

Oh.  Well Ratboy Genius is an amazing Flash series about the adventures of a yellow rat who is also a genius.  Since I don't want to derail this thread, the post Rayvonous was replying to was of a post taking the second frame from the "This is feminism" meme and replacing it with a bunch of random stills of one of the characters from Ratboy Genius.  It is intended to ridicule that meme by... making fun of it, I guess.  It's an ongoing thing.  My personal favorite is the one where the replaced the "THIS is feminism" image with a picture of a funny green alien.

Aah, that'd explain it.  I've never been one for flash series outside Xiao Xiao.
What's Xiao Xiao?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cerim Treascair on April 26, 2014, 10:33:42 pm
A metaphor?  Is that a metaphor as seen by Cthulhu or what?

Are you seriously telling me you've never heard of Ratboy Genius?

To which my question is, "What kind of a genius calls himself Ratboy?"

In a word, no.

Oh.  Well Ratboy Genius is an amazing Flash series about the adventures of a yellow rat who is also a genius.  Since I don't want to derail this thread, the post Rayvonous was replying to was of a post taking the second frame from the "This is feminism" meme and replacing it with a bunch of random stills of one of the characters from Ratboy Genius.  It is intended to ridicule that meme by... making fun of it, I guess.  It's an ongoing thing.  My personal favorite is the one where the replaced the "THIS is feminism" image with a picture of a funny green alien.

Aah, that'd explain it.  I've never been one for flash series outside Xiao Xiao.
What's Xiao Xiao?

Stick figure kung-fu animation series.  If you want a GAME like that, you guys REALLY need to pick up One Finger Death Punch.  I'll be streaming it tonight, quite possibly...
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: I am lizard on April 27, 2014, 12:57:40 am
Okay.  Sorry man.

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/54769e2e3e0301b525a81f67386b1a8e/tumblr_n39gkcBqKb1rdwac3o1_500.jpg)
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/40a343fc50b72b11f28b99617fa763f9/tumblr_n39gkcBqKb1rdwac3o2_500.jpg)
(http://31.media.tumblr.com/ec10f87279f8770940c84d0f9fdec666/tumblr_n39gkcBqKb1rdwac3o3_500.jpg)
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/728036226f1445b1d439a8a397fed9fb/tumblr_n39gkcBqKb1rdwac3o4_500.jpg)
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/dc35afa3c4ae2b3b605064e1f88f19e9/tumblr_n39gkcBqKb1rdwac3o5_500.jpg)

Class privilege is a thing yo.  Also, I never heard anyone claim that privilege was some kind of contest where you score points by being oppressed in as many ways as possible, and in fact have pretty much only seen people argue the exact opposite.
More importantly, privilege just means you don't face discrimination relating to your sex/race/sexuality.
It doesn't mean you don't face things unrelated to those things.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 27, 2014, 10:04:03 am
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 27, 2014, 11:14:02 pm
(http://media.cagle.com/95/2014/04/25/147679_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on April 27, 2014, 11:52:36 pm
I don't get the joke.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: fancy_kitten on April 27, 2014, 11:59:29 pm
Puttin is trying to assert his manly dominance by invading Ukraine, even though he is really just a jerk with short man's complex.  At least that's my take on it.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 28, 2014, 12:05:12 am
Puttin is trying to assert his manly dominance by invading Ukraine, even though he is really just a jerk with short man's complex.  At least that's my take on it.
That's what I got out of it too.  I think another layer is that the seizure is running much more on pride than brains.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on April 28, 2014, 11:59:12 am
Plus, he looks like a dork, hence my calling him, among other things, Gorshin The House Elf.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 28, 2014, 12:08:17 pm
Plus, he looks like a dork, hence my calling him, among other things, Gorshin The House Elf.
He really does.  Then when you get into the fact that virtually every world leader he's ever interacted with is considerably taller than him...
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 28, 2014, 01:38:48 pm
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on April 28, 2014, 02:03:13 pm
That is an amazingly attractive depiction of Pan!Satan.

Also a hilarious cartoon XD
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 28, 2014, 03:37:04 pm
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on April 28, 2014, 08:44:47 pm
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LOL! And God's, there & he's mad, too! I ROFLed at Fred's, "God Hates Fag Bag".
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 28, 2014, 08:54:20 pm
(http://media.cagle.com/123/2014/03/24/146189_600.jpg)

LOL! And God's, there & he's mad, too! I ROFLed at Fred's, "God Hates Fag Bag".
It's funny how the Weird Batshit Crazies call themselves the only "real Christians" when they ignore the most important parts of the Bible.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on April 28, 2014, 08:57:42 pm
(http://media.cagle.com/123/2014/03/24/146189_600.jpg)

LOL! And God's, there & he's mad, too! I ROFLed at Fred's, "God Hates Fag Bag".
It's funny how the Weird Batshit Crazies call themselves the only "real Christians" when they ignore the most important parts of the Bible.

Tell me about it! Also, I miss-identified St. Peter as God. Sorry 'bout that. I wonder if these solders are in fact the soldiers whose funerals they harassed? Now THAT would be a FINE touch!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 28, 2014, 08:58:03 pm
(http://media.cagle.com/123/2014/03/24/146189_600.jpg)

LOL! And God's, there & he's mad, too! I ROFLed at Fred's, "God Hates Fag Bag".
It's funny how the Weird Batshit Crazies call themselves the only "real Christians" when they ignore the most important parts of the Bible.

Tell me about it! Also, I miss-identified St. Peter as God. Sorry 'bout that. I wonder if these solders are in fact the soldiers whose funerals they harassed? Now THAT would be a FINE touch!
Indeed it would.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on April 28, 2014, 09:06:19 pm
(http://media.cagle.com/123/2014/03/24/146189_600.jpg)

LOL! And God's, there & he's mad, too! I ROFLed at Fred's, "God Hates Fag Bag".
It's funny how the Weird Batshit Crazies call themselves the only "real Christians" when they ignore the most important parts of the Bible.

Tell me about it! Also, I miss-identified St. Peter as God. Sorry 'bout that. I wonder if these solders are in fact the soldiers whose funerals they harassed? Now THAT would be a FINE touch!
Indeed it would.

I got an idea for a comic!

FIRST PANEL - Fred Phelps badmouths Matthew Shepard for being gay & Jerry Falwell for not being crazy enough. Proclaims both are in Hell.

SECOND PANEL - Next panel shows Matthew Shepard in Heaven having Pina Coladas with Jesus.

THIRD PANEL - Fred finds himself in Hell with Falwell. Revenge of the Sith-style "NO" ensues.

Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 28, 2014, 09:09:37 pm
(http://media.cagle.com/123/2014/03/24/146189_600.jpg)

LOL! And God's, there & he's mad, too! I ROFLed at Fred's, "God Hates Fag Bag".
It's funny how the Weird Batshit Crazies call themselves the only "real Christians" when they ignore the most important parts of the Bible.

Tell me about it! Also, I miss-identified St. Peter as God. Sorry 'bout that. I wonder if these solders are in fact the soldiers whose funerals they harassed? Now THAT would be a FINE touch!
Indeed it would.

I got an idea for a comic!

FIRST PANEL - Fred Phelps badmouths Matthew Shepard for being gay & Jerry Falwell for not being crazy enough. Proclaims both are in Hell.

SECOND PANEL - Next panel shows Matthew Shepard in Heaven having Pina Coladas with Jesus.

THIRD PANEL - Fred finds himself in Hell with Falwell. Revenge of the Sith-style "NO" ensues.
Sounds good to me.   ;D
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 28, 2014, 09:19:34 pm
(http://oi59.tinypic.com/edq0y.jpg]http://oi59.tinypic.com/edq0y.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: I am lizard on April 29, 2014, 12:34:59 am
(http://oi59.tinypic.com/edq0y.jpg]http://oi59.tinypic.com/edq0y.jpg)
Okay, while this one is funny, could you lay off with these types of comics?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: The Right Honourable Mlle Antéchrist on April 29, 2014, 12:44:43 am
Oi, you're starting to look a bit one-sided there, UP.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: I am lizard on April 29, 2014, 01:18:19 am
Oi, you're starting to look a bit one-sided there, UP.
Englishness plz????
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: fancy_kitten on April 29, 2014, 01:26:23 am
I'm honestly starting to find it kind of funny.  You really must hate Tumblr, Paragon.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: The Right Honourable Mlle Antéchrist on April 29, 2014, 01:46:47 am
Oi, you're starting to look a bit one-sided there, UP.
Englishness plz????

I say, Lizard, it's a bloody good day for tea, mmm?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ghoti on April 29, 2014, 02:08:04 am
Oi, you're starting to look a bit one-sided there, UP.
Englishness plz????

I say, Lizard, it's a bloody good day for tea, mmm?
*monocle drops* EVERY DAY IS A GOOD BLOODY DAY FOR TEA YOU DOG-BUGGERING ARSEHOLE
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 29, 2014, 08:44:01 am
I have no problem with the Social Justice movement itself, I just don't like the SJWs.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RavynousHunter on April 29, 2014, 09:09:33 am
I'm honestly starting to find it kind of funny.  You really must hate Tumblr, Paragon.

To be fair, there seems to be a lot about Tumblr to hate.

Then again, the same could be said for any blog site all the way back to MySpace and LiveJournal when they were things, and likely even before that.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on April 29, 2014, 12:05:33 pm
Oi, you're starting to look a bit one-sided there, UP.
Englishness plz????

I say, Lizard, it's a bloody good day for tea, mmm?
*monocle drops* EVERY DAY IS A GOOD BLOODY DAY FOR TEA YOU DOG-BUGGERING ARSEHOLE

*tips his glorious ushanka* Hereabouts, we drink coffee.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 29, 2014, 02:57:49 pm
(http://media.cagle.com/112/2014/04/27/147693_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 29, 2014, 03:39:38 pm
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: fancy_kitten on April 29, 2014, 05:01:34 pm
I'm honestly starting to find it kind of funny.  You really must hate Tumblr, Paragon.

To be fair, there seems to be a lot about Tumblr to hate.

Then again, the same could be said for any blog site all the way back to MySpace and LiveJournal when they were things, and likely even before that.

That's true, but it seems a little biased to only talk about the crappy stuff that goes on on Tumblr.  There's just as much wrong with Reddit, for example.  Of course, the extremists Reddit is known for are generally of the more right wing/libertarian persuasion, so I guess it would be kind of stereotypical for a generally liberal website like this one to make fun of Reddit.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: I am lizard on April 29, 2014, 06:22:25 pm
Granted I'm sure we hate reddit to.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on April 29, 2014, 06:34:17 pm
I'm honestly starting to find it kind of funny.  You really must hate Tumblr, Paragon.

To be fair, there seems to be a lot about Tumblr to hate.

Then again, the same could be said for any blog site all the way back to MySpace and LiveJournal when they were things, and likely even before that.

That's true, but it seems a little biased to only talk about the crappy stuff that goes on on Tumblr.  There's just as much wrong with Reddit, for example.  Of course, the extremists Reddit is known for are generally of the more right wing/libertarian persuasion, so I guess it would be kind of stereotypical for a generally liberal website like this one to make fun of Reddit.

Well, there's always r/atheism to make fun of.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: fancy_kitten on April 29, 2014, 06:59:51 pm
I'm honestly starting to find it kind of funny.  You really must hate Tumblr, Paragon.

To be fair, there seems to be a lot about Tumblr to hate.

Then again, the same could be said for any blog site all the way back to MySpace and LiveJournal when they were things, and likely even before that.

That's true, but it seems a little biased to only talk about the crappy stuff that goes on on Tumblr.  There's just as much wrong with Reddit, for example.  Of course, the extremists Reddit is known for are generally of the more right wing/libertarian persuasion, so I guess it would be kind of stereotypical for a generally liberal website like this one to make fun of Reddit.

Well, there's always r/atheism to make fun of.

Eh, r/atheism is pretty crappy but there just isn't that much material there.  Most of it is just boring regurgitated memes and stupid facebook screencaps.  I guess it is kind of funny how mad everyone there gets when someone quotes Desmond Tutu or the Dalai Lama and the top comments are always something along the lines of "RELIGIOUS MODERSTES?!?!  GIT'EMOUT!" 
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 29, 2014, 07:21:47 pm
Then you get into the fact that sometimes, SJWs sound uncannily similar to White Nationalists.

http://www.reddit.com/r/StormfrontorSJW/ (http://www.reddit.com/r/StormfrontorSJW/)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 29, 2014, 09:34:51 pm
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: ironbite on April 29, 2014, 09:38:06 pm
Weren't you told to stop with the double posting?

Ironbite-pretty sure you were.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: fancy_kitten on April 29, 2014, 09:43:08 pm
You should really just edit posts and clip them to keep them from being too long Paragon.  I'm not mad and am only saying this out of concern.  I'll admit that I double-post every now and again myself, but that's usually only to show that something new has been posted in a thread that people might not look at again otherwise.  That justification doesn't exist here though.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on April 29, 2014, 09:44:06 pm
If the cracker is double posting cartoons I say "Let him post!"

I fucking love political cartoons.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ironchew on April 29, 2014, 10:13:19 pm
Well, there's always r/atheism to make fun of.

Did r/atheism piss in your cheerios when you were a kid? I honestly don't understand why you hate that subreddit so much.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: fancy_kitten on April 29, 2014, 10:17:44 pm
Well, there's always r/atheism to make fun of.

Did r/atheism piss in your cheerios when you were a kid? I honestly don't understand why you hate that subreddit so much.

See my post above.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on April 29, 2014, 10:44:21 pm
Weren't you told to stop with the double posting?

Ironbite-pretty sure you were.
When did you become a moderator?

Well, there's always r/atheism to make fun of.

Did r/atheism piss in your cheerios when you were a kid? I honestly don't understand why you hate that subreddit so much.

I don't "hate" r/atheism.  I just think that it's kinda funny seeing a bunch of pseudo-intellectuals run around crowing about how atheism is the most superior mindset ever.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: mythbuster43 on April 29, 2014, 10:48:52 pm

Well, there's always r/atheism to make fun of.

Did r/atheism piss in your cheerios when you were a kid? I honestly don't understand why you hate that subreddit so much.

I don't "hate" r/atheism.  I just think that it's kinda funny seeing a bunch of pseudo-intellectuals run around crowing about how atheism is the most superior mindset ever.

r/atheism is full of exactly the kind of pretentious anti-theists that give validation to the "militant atheist" stereotype. They are one of the reasons I'm an agnostic. The agnostics seem to be the only philosophical group (aside from perhaps the Buddhists) without a significant vocal minority of douchenozzles.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: lord gibbon on April 29, 2014, 11:14:21 pm
Believe me, I've encountered more than my fair share of aggressive agnostics. What I've found id that their vitriol tends to be reserved for atheists, usually with some variant of "you can't know for sure, so you're being arrogant." The fact is, no one is 100% sure that their is no god, even Professor Richard Dawkins says he's only 98%.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on April 29, 2014, 11:30:46 pm
You should really just edit posts and clip them to keep them from being too long Paragon.  I'm not mad and am only saying this out of concern.  I'll admit that I double-post every now and again myself, but that's usually only to show that something new has been posted in a thread that people might not look at again otherwise.  That justification doesn't exist here though.

I think that if yours is the last post in a thread and you edit it, the thread shows up as having a new post. (That said, the timestamp of said post doesn't change, so it doesn't get bumped to the top, so it might not get seen at all if it's on the second page in its subforum, but then that probably violates the thread necro rules.)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ironchew on April 29, 2014, 11:45:07 pm
r/atheism is full of exactly the kind of pretentious anti-theists that give validation to the "militant atheist" stereotype. They are one of the reasons I'm an agnostic. The agnostics seem to be the only philosophical group (aside from perhaps the Buddhists) without a significant vocal minority of douchenozzles.

I've found that most of the criticism aimed at r/atheism is projected from religious people who can't stand any criticism of their beliefs and constantly whine whenever anything is posted there. Besides that, r/atheism isn't any better or worse than most other subreddits.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on April 29, 2014, 11:58:35 pm
r/atheism is full of exactly the kind of pretentious anti-theists that give validation to the "militant atheist" stereotype. They are one of the reasons I'm an agnostic. The agnostics seem to be the only philosophical group (aside from perhaps the Buddhists) without a significant vocal minority of douchenozzles.

I've found that most of the criticism aimed at r/atheism is projected from religious people who can't stand any criticism of their beliefs and constantly whine whenever anything is posted there.

So what about all of the atheists and agnostics that criticize it?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: fancy_kitten on April 30, 2014, 12:12:53 am
r/atheism is full of exactly the kind of pretentious anti-theists that give validation to the "militant atheist" stereotype. They are one of the reasons I'm an agnostic. The agnostics seem to be the only philosophical group (aside from perhaps the Buddhists) without a significant vocal minority of douchenozzles.

I've found that most of the criticism aimed at r/atheism is projected from religious people who can't stand any criticism of their beliefs and constantly whine whenever anything is posted there. Besides that, r/atheism isn't any better or worse than most other subreddits.

That's kind of the point though.  To paraphrase someone from another forum, r/anything is barely a step above hitting yourself repeatedly with one of your home appliances as an alternative to just sitting there bored.  So it only stands to reason that r/atheism would pretty much represent the worst of atheism.  I'm not saying their critics are better- when I went to r/Christianity it was full of passive-aggressive douche bags who made me wonder why False Equivalencism isn't an official sect yet, and one dude there unironically wrote a mini-essay on why people should get the death penalty for any infraction of Biblical law.  Granted, those are the extremes, but the extremes from r/atheism aren't much better.  Like I said though, it's mostly just boring memes and pretentious crap.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on April 30, 2014, 12:14:33 am
Huh, sounds like FSTDT could get a lot of quotes out of r/Christianity.

I wouldn't be surprised if there was an R/Asatru or R/Heathen and it was just as full of fuckwits.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ironchew on April 30, 2014, 12:31:47 am
r/atheism is full of exactly the kind of pretentious anti-theists that give validation to the "militant atheist" stereotype. They are one of the reasons I'm an agnostic. The agnostics seem to be the only philosophical group (aside from perhaps the Buddhists) without a significant vocal minority of douchenozzles.

I've found that most of the criticism aimed at r/atheism is projected from religious people who can't stand any criticism of their beliefs and constantly whine whenever anything is posted there.

So what about all of the atheists and agnostics that criticize it?

Atheists are typically welcoming of criticism, I've found. It's just painfully obvious that most of the accusations of "militancy" and "aggressiveness" come from Christians* who can't stand the thought that atheists exist and might want to voice their opinions on religion.

* I said Christians because Reddit has an English-speaking userbase and is predominately Christian. I have no illusions that Jews, Muslims, etc. would be any more accomodating.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Feral Dog on April 30, 2014, 01:01:36 am
(aside from perhaps the Buddhists) without a significant vocal minority of douchenozzles.

There's militant terrorist Buddhists in Sri Lanka.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: lord gibbon on April 30, 2014, 01:05:39 am
And in Burma.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ghoti on April 30, 2014, 01:42:25 am
All of nonfiction up to this point in history, TLDR version: no matter what group/cause/what have you people align themselves with, a significant portion of of those people will be assholes about it.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RavynousHunter on April 30, 2014, 07:37:42 am
(http://suicideproject.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/aa.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 30, 2014, 11:42:13 am
(http://media.cagle.com/95/2014/04/29/147840_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: MadCatTLX on April 30, 2014, 12:43:25 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slKULc8W7lM

Just so everyone knows, the maker of the video is themselves an atheist.

The only section of reddit I've ever frequented is the TIFU (Today I Fucked Up) subreddit.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Sigmaleph on April 30, 2014, 03:46:00 pm
r/atheism is full of exactly the kind of pretentious anti-theists that give validation to the "militant atheist" stereotype. They are one of the reasons I'm an agnostic. The agnostics seem to be the only philosophical group (aside from perhaps the Buddhists) without a significant vocal minority of douchenozzles.

There are a lot of atheist assholes, but I don't see why that would be a reason to be agnostic. The truth of a philosophical proposition is usually unrelated to the personality of the people who subscribe to it.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Raymond Dullaghy on April 30, 2014, 04:44:30 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slKULc8W7lM

Just so everyone knows, the maker of the video is themselves an atheist.

The only section of reddit I've ever frequented is the TIFU (Today I Fucked Up) subreddit.
>/r
And there's your problem. 4chan, Reddit, and their imageboard ilk are the last places to go to for useful and intelligent discussion. I stopped by /tg/ every now and then for DnD advice, but when the "Have you tried not playing DnD?" comments came in, into the trash it went.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on April 30, 2014, 06:12:05 pm
(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: mellenORL on April 30, 2014, 08:48:33 pm
Cute cartoon, but actually, China always gets it's own long, often exclusive, visit from the US president, exactly because they are so important in the scheme of things in the world.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ironchew on April 30, 2014, 10:06:53 pm
And there's your problem. 4chan, Reddit, and their imageboard ilk are the last places to go to for useful and intelligent discussion.

Second to last. I'm afraid FQA takes the cake for consistently least knowledgeable discussion participants.

Reddit may be brave, but they have r/math.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Id82 on April 30, 2014, 10:15:56 pm
So basically r/atheist is an atheist troll board?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ironchew on April 30, 2014, 10:32:18 pm
Nah, the euphoric atheists are in r/magicskyfairy.

EDIT: Took a look at r/atheist and crashed into slumber :(
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on May 01, 2014, 11:54:57 am
(http://media.cagle.com/81/2014/04/30/147887_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: I am lizard on May 01, 2014, 01:38:25 pm
(http://media.cagle.com/81/2014/04/30/147887_600.jpg)
Meh, feels fairly bland and overly dramatic.
I don't like cartoons where the only statement is "Bad thing is bad."
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RavynousHunter on May 01, 2014, 02:07:31 pm
And there's your problem. 4chan, Reddit, and their imageboard ilk are the last places to go to for useful and intelligent discussion.

Second to last. I'm afraid FQA takes the cake for consistently least knowledgeable discussion participants.

Reddit may be brave, but they have r/math.

At least we can rely on you to enlighten us.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on May 01, 2014, 03:34:44 pm
(http://media.cagle.com/180/2014/04/30/147869_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on May 01, 2014, 05:36:49 pm
(http://media.cagle.com/180/2014/04/30/147869_600.jpg)

Love the cows with the Milk Duds & drinks. So cute.

Cliven Bundy's Klan hood/cowboy hat, nice touch.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Veras on May 01, 2014, 05:44:19 pm
I'm more partial to the Klan hood/hat
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on May 01, 2014, 09:22:00 pm
(http://media.cagle.com/132/2014/04/29/147826_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: I am lizard on May 02, 2014, 12:04:08 am
We'll that's a nice propaganda piece but according to this Harvard stu-
MY FREIND KNOWS SOMEONE WHO GAVE THERE KID VACCINES AND NOW HE HAS AUTISM! RON PAUL 2016!! ABOLISH THE FED, STOP BIG PHARMA!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on May 02, 2014, 01:26:08 pm
(http://media.cagle.com/123/2014/04/29/147822_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: mellenORL on May 02, 2014, 05:11:41 pm
Nailed it! ;D
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: I am lizard on May 02, 2014, 05:53:53 pm
(http://media.cagle.com/123/2014/04/29/147822_600.jpg)
Wants some bathtub gin for that burn?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on May 02, 2014, 10:09:29 pm
(http://media.cagle.com/77/2014/04/15/147187_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on May 03, 2014, 09:54:53 pm
(http://media.cagle.com/123/2014/05/03/148015_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on May 04, 2014, 10:32:21 am
(http://media.cagle.com/111/2014/05/03/148013_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on May 04, 2014, 04:32:05 pm
(http://oi60.tinypic.com/10rtm50.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on May 04, 2014, 07:30:24 pm
(http://media.cagle.com/139/2014/05/02/147997_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RavynousHunter on May 05, 2014, 07:18:46 am
Edit Button, dude, edit button!  It is there for a reason!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on May 05, 2014, 10:47:34 am
(http://oi60.tinypic.com/10rtm50.jpg)

Love it! And really....why does a guy who hates people of color have all these girlfriends/wives/grandkids/etc. that are anything but pasty Anglo-Nordic white....or get involved in a sport involving mostly non-white players?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on May 05, 2014, 10:54:23 am
(http://oi60.tinypic.com/10rtm50.jpg)

Love it! And really....why does a guy who hates people of color have all these girlfriends/wives/grandkids/etc. that are anything but pasty Anglo-Nordic white....or get involved in a sport involving mostly non-white players?
God knows.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on May 05, 2014, 11:03:55 am
(http://oi60.tinypic.com/10rtm50.jpg)

Love it! And really....why does a guy who hates people of color have all these girlfriends/wives/grandkids/etc. that are anything but pasty Anglo-Nordic white....or get involved in a sport involving mostly non-white players?
God knows.

Maybe he fetishizes black & Hispanic women as these "submissive, exotic sex creatures" or sees them as an "anti-bigot 'beard'".

Why ANYONE would want to date this butt-ugly old troll is anyone's guess. All I can think of is "gold-diggers". Said women must have some seriously strong stomachs. But if THIS is the fool they wish to part money from, then I commend those ladies deeply.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on May 05, 2014, 11:08:36 am
(http://oi60.tinypic.com/10rtm50.jpg)

Love it! And really....why does a guy who hates people of color have all these girlfriends/wives/grandkids/etc. that are anything but pasty Anglo-Nordic white....or get involved in a sport involving mostly non-white players?
God knows.

Maybe he fetishizes black & Hispanic women as these "submissive, exotic sex creatures" or sees them as an "anti-bigot 'beard'".

Why ANYONE would want to date this butt-ugly old troll is anyone's guess. All I can think of is "gold-diggers". Said women must have some seriously strong stomachs. But if THIS is the fool they wish to part money from, then I commend those ladies deeply.
Let's hope he was worth the money.

Speaking of unpleasantness:

(http://oi59.tinypic.com/nevx9g.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: mellenORL on May 05, 2014, 01:17:19 pm
Too bad they singled out California. These insanely enforced policies are ruining innocent, happy childhoods all over the country.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on May 05, 2014, 03:51:34 pm
Too bad they singled out California. These insanely enforced policies are ruining innocent, happy childhoods all over the country.
Indeed.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RavynousHunter on May 05, 2014, 08:34:20 pm
And I thought it was bad when I was silently labelled a "problem child" because I drew stick figures killing one another.  Granted, some of the deaths were a tad...brutal, as brutal as one could get with stick figures, but still.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on May 05, 2014, 08:45:42 pm
And I thought it was bad when I was silently labelled a "problem child" because I drew stick figures killing one another.  Granted, some of the deaths were a tad...brutal, as brutal as one could get with stick figures, but still.

I'm no psychologist, but...

A child drawing stick figures suffering violent deaths is exercising his creativity to me.  At worst, I might guess that the child suffers from some sort of depression (or is just frustrated) and is venting that onto paper.

What would concern me is if the child started ACTING violent.  Especially if they started to harm small animals.

Of course, to schools, any sort of child exhibiting any sort of evidence that they have seen anything that might be used for violence is "OMG POTENTIAL SERIAL KILLER WE NEED TO STYMIE THAT RIGHT AWAY"
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: I am lizard on May 05, 2014, 10:46:07 pm
And I thought it was bad when I was silently labelled a "problem child" because I drew stick figures killing one another.  Granted, some of the deaths were a tad...brutal, as brutal as one could get with stick figures, but still.
A KID DRAWING VIOLENT PICTURES?!?!
YOU ARE TRULY A DERANGED SOCIOPATH AS ALL YOUNGE BOYS ONLY DRAW PICTURES OF ROSES AND PUPPIES!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on May 05, 2014, 11:12:55 pm
(http://oi60.tinypic.com/97o3g5.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on May 05, 2014, 11:59:05 pm
And I thought it was bad when I was silently labelled a "problem child" because I drew stick figures killing one another.  Granted, some of the deaths were a tad...brutal, as brutal as one could get with stick figures, but still.
A KID DRAWING VIOLENT PICTURES?!?!
YOU ARE TRULY A DERANGED SOCIOPATH AS ALL YOUNGE BOYS ONLY DRAW PICTURES OF ROSES AND PUPPIES!

Incidentally, a younger boy drawing pictures of roses would probably be bullied for being gay.

At that point, they'd probably switch to drawing pictures of stick bullies getting killed in horrific and/or ironic ways.

THEREFORE ROSES LEAD TO VIOLENCE AND SHOULD BE BANNED.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: MadCatTLX on May 06, 2014, 12:14:03 am
Existing leads to violence and should be banned.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on May 06, 2014, 12:14:45 am
Existing leads to violence and should be banned.
Hell, why not ban existence itself?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: I am lizard on May 06, 2014, 12:24:39 am
And I thought it was bad when I was silently labelled a "problem child" because I drew stick figures killing one another.  Granted, some of the deaths were a tad...brutal, as brutal as one could get with stick figures, but still.
A KID DRAWING VIOLENT PICTURES?!?!
YOU ARE TRULY A DERANGED SOCIOPATH AS ALL YOUNGE BOYS ONLY DRAW PICTURES OF ROSES AND PUPPIES!

Incidentally, a younger boy drawing pictures of roses would probably be bullied for being gay.

At that point, they'd probably switch to drawing pictures of stick bullies getting killed in horrific and/or ironic ways.

THEREFORE ROSES LEAD TO VIOLENCE AND SHOULD BE BANNED.
WE ARE IN NO WAY MISSING THE POINT HERE!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on May 06, 2014, 12:39:47 am
And I thought it was bad when I was silently labelled a "problem child" because I drew stick figures killing one another.  Granted, some of the deaths were a tad...brutal, as brutal as one could get with stick figures, but still.
A KID DRAWING VIOLENT PICTURES?!?!
YOU ARE TRULY A DERANGED SOCIOPATH AS ALL YOUNGE BOYS ONLY DRAW PICTURES OF ROSES AND PUPPIES!

Incidentally, a younger boy drawing pictures of roses would probably be bullied for being gay.

At that point, they'd probably switch to drawing pictures of stick bullies getting killed in horrific and/or ironic ways.

THEREFORE ROSES LEAD TO VIOLENCE AND SHOULD BE BANNED.
WE ARE IN NO WAY MISSING THE POINT HERE!
OF COURSE NOT!  WE ARE THE LAW!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: I am lizard on May 06, 2014, 12:48:11 am
And I thought it was bad when I was silently labelled a "problem child" because I drew stick figures killing one another.  Granted, some of the deaths were a tad...brutal, as brutal as one could get with stick figures, but still.
A KID DRAWING VIOLENT PICTURES?!?!
YOU ARE TRULY A DERANGED SOCIOPATH AS ALL YOUNGE BOYS ONLY DRAW PICTURES OF ROSES AND PUPPIES!

Incidentally, a younger boy drawing pictures of roses would probably be bullied for being gay.

At that point, they'd probably switch to drawing pictures of stick bullies getting killed in horrific and/or ironic ways.

THEREFORE ROSES LEAD TO VIOLENCE AND SHOULD BE BANNED.
WE ARE IN NO WAY MISSING THE POINT HERE!
OF COURSE NOT!  WE ARE THE LAW!
Interestingly enough Judge Dredd is meant to parody that same shortsighted attitude.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RavynousHunter on May 06, 2014, 11:06:24 am
Truly the weakest minds of our times aren't, in fact, politicians.  They're school administrators.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on May 06, 2014, 11:57:36 am
Truly the weakest minds of our times aren't, in fact, politicians.  They're school administrators.
I always thought it was Reality TV stars.  Then I remembered that their stupidity doesn't really hurt anybody, so I started criticizing school administrators instead.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on May 07, 2014, 11:37:25 pm
(http://oi61.tinypic.com/2mot2yg.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: I am lizard on May 08, 2014, 12:29:02 am
(http://oi61.tinypic.com/2mot2yg.jpg)
To be fair, that is basically the dog equivalent of a nightstick.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: chad sexington on May 08, 2014, 07:47:50 am
A bit old.  I don't know what's going on here, but I like it!

(http://i.imgur.com/IYWcBZF.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on May 08, 2014, 03:36:37 pm
(http://oi59.tinypic.com/b9003.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on May 08, 2014, 03:39:30 pm
...Hmmm.

The Oompa loompas were slaves to Willy Wonka, who had captured their tribe in Africa... And then brought to his factory to work as slaves.

Putin and Russia are currently involved with the Ukraine crisis as Russian troops captured Crimea (they captured locations rather than people like Wonka did) and Russia is now working more subtly to support the separatists in Donetsk.

Therefore this means that Putin plans to steal the people of Ukraine and then make them into his loyal slaves/servants and use them to grind up kids into chocolate in his secret factory.

...Or possibly to use the Ukrainian factories that are needed to maintain the Russian ICBM arsenal and helicopters and other flyers.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on May 09, 2014, 10:22:08 am
(http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/725/771/0c7.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on May 09, 2014, 10:31:40 am
(http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/725/771/0c7.jpg)

Ha haaaa! BUUUUUURRRNNN!

MORAL: If you're going to put Power Girl on your poster, put the whole heroic Power Girl there, not a close-up of her Power-Boobs!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RavynousHunter on May 09, 2014, 02:07:26 pm
Superman seems a tad on the ... small side, doesn't he?

[/ComicallyMissingThePoint]
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on May 09, 2014, 02:48:41 pm
Superman seems a tad on the ... small side, doesn't he?

[/ComicallyMissingThePoint]
Hulk isn't so... Hulked out... either. His arms particularly look too small.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on May 09, 2014, 02:49:42 pm
Superman seems a tad on the ... small side, doesn't he?

[/ComicallyMissingThePoint]
Hulk isn't so... Hulked out... either. His arms particularly look too small.
My guess is the woman who did the posters likes more svelte types.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on May 09, 2014, 03:54:16 pm
Superman seems a tad on the ... small side, doesn't he?

[/ComicallyMissingThePoint]
Hulk isn't so... Hulked out... either. His arms particularly look too small.
My guess is the woman who did the posters likes more svelte types.
THIS IS OUTRAGEOUS! ALL BODY TYPE ARE SEXY! HOW CAN SHE NOT APPRECIATE HUNKY-HULK! Kinda like most of the men who draw pin ups seem to prefer women with gravity defying breasts and impossibly skinny bodies. (Or just impossible bodies, like Liefeld does.)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on May 09, 2014, 05:06:07 pm
Superman seems a tad on the ... small side, doesn't he?

[/ComicallyMissingThePoint]
Hulk isn't so... Hulked out... either. His arms particularly look too small.
My guess is the woman who did the posters likes more svelte types.
THIS IS OUTRAGEOUS! ALL BODY TYPE ARE SEXY! HOW CAN SHE NOT APPRECIATE HUNKY-HULK! Kinda like most of the men who draw pin ups seem to prefer women with gravity defying breasts and impossibly skinny bodies. (Or just impossible bodies, like Liefeld does.)
To be fair, everything Liefeld draws is impossible.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on May 09, 2014, 07:21:23 pm
I love Batman standing there grabbing his Bat-crotch.  ::)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: mellenORL on May 09, 2014, 07:30:02 pm
Yeah, he edgy like dat.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on May 09, 2014, 08:56:43 pm
Yeah, he edgy like dat.
Especially when written by Frank Miller.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: I am lizard on May 09, 2014, 09:35:26 pm
Yeah, he edgy like dat.
Especially when written by Frank Miller.
Frank Millers waaaay worse than Robbie though.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: KZN02 on May 09, 2014, 09:39:58 pm
Wait, I recognize the artist, it's TomPreston.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on May 09, 2014, 09:44:26 pm
Wait, I recognize the artist, it's TomPreston.
Is it supposed to be one word?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: MadCatTLX on May 09, 2014, 11:32:08 pm
Yeah, he edgy like dat.

He looks like a douchebag like that.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: mellenORL on May 09, 2014, 11:54:21 pm
Batman's a rich boy. 'Course he a d-bag, wudjaspect? ;D
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: KZN02 on May 10, 2014, 12:04:39 am
Wait, I recognize the artist, it's TomPreston.
Is it supposed to be one word?
Well, I'm going by his DeviantArt username, but really his name is Andrew Dobson.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RavynousHunter on May 10, 2014, 03:22:25 pm
I love Batman standing there grabbing his Bat-crotch.  ::)

Because Batman is 110% gangsta.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on May 10, 2014, 07:02:37 pm
(http://media.cagle.com/81/2014/05/05/148079_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on May 11, 2014, 10:58:51 am
(http://media.cagle.com/46/2014/05/09/148294_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Id82 on May 11, 2014, 12:56:58 pm
I don't think the doctors are to blame in this case and it's more to do with the government.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on May 11, 2014, 01:06:02 pm
I dunno, looks like the doctor could be depressed about it, if you read deeply enough into it.

Of course, it could be a case of "reading deeply at all is reading too deep"
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on May 11, 2014, 01:25:21 pm
Yeah, the doctor doesn't look happy about it.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on May 11, 2014, 03:00:17 pm
(http://media.cagle.com/20/2014/05/09/148285_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on May 12, 2014, 02:25:52 pm
(http://oi57.tinypic.com/flknk0.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on May 12, 2014, 05:28:43 pm
(http://oi57.tinypic.com/2djwa48.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on May 13, 2014, 12:40:22 pm
(http://media.cagle.com/139/2014/05/08/148225_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: ironbite on May 13, 2014, 02:22:26 pm
There's this thing, it's called an edit button.  Perhaps you should use it.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on May 13, 2014, 03:08:30 pm
There's this thing, it's called an edit button.  Perhaps you should use it.
Well, I always thought that if enough time passes, the edit button is unnecessary.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cataclysm on May 13, 2014, 06:34:38 pm
Well, maybe wait until the thread goes to page 2 before double posting. If that ever happens.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on May 13, 2014, 06:53:05 pm
Surely theree is an exception when posting new material. The cracker is posting new political cartoons. Can we give the cracker a break?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on May 13, 2014, 07:32:29 pm
Surely theree is an exception when posting new material. The cracker is posting new political cartoons. Can we give the cracker a break?
And there's another reason.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on May 16, 2014, 11:29:46 am
(http://media.cagle.com/81/2014/05/13/148449_600.jpg)
How we treat our veterans is a goddamn disgrace!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on May 16, 2014, 01:57:43 pm
...Paragon.

Stop with that double posting crap. Use the edit button like everyone else does.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on May 16, 2014, 01:59:40 pm
Why is Paragon the only one getting shit for this, especially since it's been three days since his last post?  In the history of this forum, lots of people have double-posted to bring up topics to the top when they're posting something relevant to the thread, like a new political cartoon.  That way, people know there's new content, instead of just an old post being edited.

So why is this an issue now?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on May 16, 2014, 02:05:49 pm
He is doing it consistently.

Honestly, it annoys me no matter who does it but after a while I've began to notice that UP keeps doing it so it just rustles my jimmies. I guess others may do it as well, but either I haven't read those threads or just haven't noticed it. I am not trying to just bully one person because of it but UP's triple posting just is so easy to spot as I got used to seeing it.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RavynousHunter on May 16, 2014, 02:07:33 pm
...Because he's done it to excess multiple times?  A doublepost or two every once in a while may be a breach of netiquette, but its not very annoying.  Triple to quintuple posting several times in a single thread?  That can get a tad vexing; especially when multiple people have asked him to use the edit feature specifically to avoid such vexation.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on May 16, 2014, 02:25:46 pm
I understand being upset when he posts rapidly in the span of a few minutes with a single picture or so on each.  That's way too excessive.

But like I said, it'd been three days.

In fact, I'm gonna say that I get annoyed when people don't go ahead and double post after such a time period.  Why?  Because invariably, when someone responds to the thread, the forum software takes me past the updated post to the fresh new post, therefore, I miss out on the update until I have to go back for some reason, or someone quotes it and I'm like "Wait I don't remember that part being there."
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on May 16, 2014, 07:54:05 pm
(http://media.cagle.com/82/2014/05/13/148445_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on May 18, 2014, 06:09:41 pm
(http://media.cagle.com/95/2014/05/13/148428_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RavynousHunter on May 19, 2014, 07:39:10 am
I've always wondered what all the hub-ub was about, or how you'd even tell that he's gay on the pitch.  American football is the most homoerotic sport since professional wrestling...I doubt anyone would be able to see the difference between a gay player and a straight one.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Canadian Mojo on May 19, 2014, 07:43:46 am
I've always wondered what all the hub-ub was about, or how you'd even tell that he's gay on the pitch.  American football is the most homoerotic sport since professional wrestling...I doubt anyone would be able to see the difference between a gay player and a straight one.
If the straight players act like this, then OH MY GOD, what are the queers going to do in the end zone when they score a touch down!?!  ::)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RavynousHunter on May 19, 2014, 07:49:16 am
I've always wondered what all the hub-ub was about, or how you'd even tell that he's gay on the pitch.  American football is the most homoerotic sport since professional wrestling...I doubt anyone would be able to see the difference between a gay player and a straight one.
If the straight players act like this, then OH MY GOD, what are the queers going to do in the end zone when they score a touch down!?!  ::)

Hey, that might actually make football interesting enough to be just barely watchable.  Maybe.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: mellenORL on May 19, 2014, 09:35:28 am
Did anyone notice how little negative reaction came from all the other NFL players? Yeah. Butch gay guys and football have been a thing since the sport began. Players have learned to deal fairly with gay players since high school days. The rougher sports make a nice haven for gay guys, since the general public are so utterly clueless when it comes to machismo and sexual orientation.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: R. U. Sirius on May 19, 2014, 10:17:23 am
I've always wondered what all the hub-ub was about, or how you'd even tell that he's gay on the pitch.  American football is the most homoerotic sport since professional wrestling...I doubt anyone would be able to see the difference between a gay player and a straight one.

You've obviously never watched MMA, have you? ;)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on May 19, 2014, 11:11:53 am
I've always wondered what all the hub-ub was about, or how you'd even tell that he's gay on the pitch.  American football is the most homoerotic sport since professional wrestling...I doubt anyone would be able to see the difference between a gay player and a straight one.

Yeah. All those big hunky guys in tights, rolling around a field.....
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: I am lizard on May 19, 2014, 01:44:26 pm
We can't let dirty faggots queer up are sweaty muscle men jumping in bit sweaty piles wrestling each other in the mud!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on May 19, 2014, 01:52:51 pm
The only way football could be more homoerotic would be if it were done naked.

Boxing is also pretty damn homoerotic.  Think about it... two shirtless guys fighting over a belt.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on May 19, 2014, 10:38:57 pm
(http://media.cagle.com/89/2014/05/12/148388_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on May 20, 2014, 08:40:05 pm
(http://media.cagle.com/82/2014/05/15/148537_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: KZN02 on May 20, 2014, 08:59:41 pm
(http://media.cagle.com/82/2014/05/15/148537_600.jpg)
Speaking of Godzilla, some conservatives have seen the movie as a Take That against Democrats because of the locations that get destroyed.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on May 21, 2014, 09:02:05 am
(http://media.cagle.com/82/2014/05/15/148537_600.jpg)
Speaking of Godzilla, some conservatives have seen the movie as a Take That against Democrats because of the locations that get destroyed.
Are you really surprised?  People will try to find hidden meanings in anything and everything.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on May 21, 2014, 10:31:40 am
Love that cartoon. Makes a great point and is funny, too.

Climate Change Godzilla trashes the planet, picks up Jim-Bob the funny cartoon hick with a ball cap!

JIM-BOB: "I still need more proof you exist!"

GODZILLA: "Yeah, whatever....*OMMM NOMNOMNOM*......mmmmm....hick taste like sushi!"

NEXT UP.....TIN-FOIL IDIOT vs. SANDY HOOK-ZILLA!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: R. U. Sirius on May 21, 2014, 03:33:06 pm
Love that cartoon. Makes a great point and is funny, too.

Climate Change Godzilla trashes the planet, picks up Jim-Bob the funny cartoon hick with a ball cap!

JIM-BOB: "I still need more proof you exist!"

GODZILLA: "Yeah, whatever....*OMMM NOMNOMNOM*......mmmmm....hick taste like sushi!"

NEXT UP.....TIN-FOIL IDIOT vs. SANDY HOOK-ZILLA!

You forgot the part about the heartburn fueling Godzilla's fire breath. :)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on May 21, 2014, 04:15:42 pm
(http://media.cagle.com/77/2014/05/06/148115_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on May 21, 2014, 08:09:03 pm
Warning: big

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cerim Treascair on May 21, 2014, 09:57:18 pm
... UP, that's fucking awesome.  Thank you for posting that.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on May 21, 2014, 09:59:50 pm
... UP, that's fucking awesome.  Thank you for posting that.
You're welcome.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: R. U. Sirius on May 21, 2014, 10:41:59 pm
I wish any of my teachers growing up had been that passionate and dedicated. Unfortunately, our public school system is pretty much designed to quash any passion, curiosity and desire to learn on the parts of both teachers and students.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: lord gibbon on May 22, 2014, 12:19:30 am
... UP, that's fucking awesome.  Thank you for posting that.
If you like that, allow me to link you to the origin site.
http://zenpencils.com/
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Alehksunos on May 22, 2014, 12:33:22 am
Zenpencils?

Isn't that the same artist who felt persecuted by negative comments to where he used - of all fucking people - Hayao Miyazaki as his personal lord and savior, riding giant mechs, destroying all those who stand against popular culture, notably "trolls"? Because I find that unforgivable.

How unforgivable? Just plain offensive. Like Hayao Miyazaki is a very critical man, he carries a lot of unpopular opinions (he hates a lot of anime, for starters, despite his numerous contributions to the medium), even declared the animation styles of the "godfather of manga" himself Osamu Tezuka "cheap and nasty". He had been subject of media outrage in native Japan numerous times, notably when he commented not too long ago about how the Japanese are unapologetic about the "comfort women" (Korean women used as sex slaves in World War II) and various other atrocities. This man was dehumanized in that comic, treated like he's just this "magical, wonderful, shiny-happy-person" that Walt Disney has been bronzed as numerous times by his own company.

(That is to say that the Walt Disney Company is typically a pretentious college student's favorite pissing target and how it is funny that Miyazaki and Studio Ghibli would agree to have Disney distribute their films to the Western world.)

(All this is also said at the risk of sounding like a pretentious bag of shit myself for once again criticizing another popular artist on the internet, much like how I've pissed out on Tom Preston a while ago here.)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RavynousHunter on May 22, 2014, 07:43:09 am
I wish any of my teachers growing up had been that passionate and dedicated. Unfortunately, our public school system is pretty much designed to quash any passion, curiosity and desire to learn on the parts of both teachers and students.

Thankfully, some students, myself included, realize this and seek to learn what they aren't teaching us.  Autodidacts of the world, unite!

Though, I will admit that 4 years of mandatory high school English is bullshit.  If you can't read and write the language, as well as draft an acceptable paper after nearly a decade of learning how, then you're probably not going to learn how, and if you still wanna try, it should be effing optional.  High school should be more about preparing you for actual college (which it largely does not, in my experience) and less about...well, getting high and finding hidden places in the school to get head.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Sigmaleph on May 22, 2014, 10:31:48 am
Zenpencils?

Isn't that the same artist who felt persecuted by negative comments to where he used - of all fucking people - Hayao Miyazaki as his personal lord and savior, riding giant mechs, destroying all those who stand against popular culture, notably "trolls"? Because I find that unforgivable.

How unforgivable? Just plain offensive. Like Hayao Miyazaki is a very critical man, he carries a lot of unpopular opinions (he hates a lot of anime, for starters, despite his numerous contributions to the medium), even declared the animation styles of the "godfather of manga" himself Osamu Tezuka "cheap and nasty". He had been subject of media outrage in native Japan numerous times, notably when he commented not too long ago about how the Japanese are unapologetic about the "comfort women" (Korean women used as sex slaves in World War II) and various other atrocities. This man was dehumanized in that comic, treated like he's just this "magical, wonderful, shiny-happy-person" that Walt Disney has been bronzed as numerous times by his own company.

(That is to say that the Walt Disney Company is typically a pretentious college student's favorite pissing target and how it is funny that Miyazaki and Studio Ghibli would agree to have Disney distribute their films to the Western world.)

(All this is also said at the risk of sounding like a pretentious bag of shit myself for once again criticizing another popular artist on the internet, much like how I've pissed out on Tom Preston a while ago here.)

Would you mind clarifying what it is that Zen Pencils did or said that you find unforgivable?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RavynousHunter on May 22, 2014, 10:43:13 am
I think what Alehksunos was getting at was that the person deified Miyazaki.  Personally, I don't care either way about the man since I've never seen any of his work, so...could be wrong, but that's what it sounds like the problem might be.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on May 22, 2014, 11:11:00 am
(http://37.media.tumblr.com/ad6f983922bf8a9f1c08740a16ec70e8/tumblr_n5fbfskD1g1rdwac3o1_1280.png)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Alehksunos on May 22, 2014, 11:56:04 am
Zenpencils?

Isn't that the same artist who felt persecuted by negative comments to where he used - of all fucking people - Hayao Miyazaki as his personal lord and savior, riding giant mechs, destroying all those who stand against popular culture, notably "trolls"? Because I find that unforgivable.

How unforgivable? Just plain offensive. Like Hayao Miyazaki is a very critical man, he carries a lot of unpopular opinions (he hates a lot of anime, for starters, despite his numerous contributions to the medium), even declared the animation styles of the "godfather of manga" himself Osamu Tezuka "cheap and nasty". He had been subject of media outrage in native Japan numerous times, notably when he commented not too long ago about how the Japanese are unapologetic about the "comfort women" (Korean women used as sex slaves in World War II) and various other atrocities. This man was dehumanized in that comic, treated like he's just this "magical, wonderful, shiny-happy-person" that Walt Disney has been bronzed as numerous times by his own company.

(That is to say that the Walt Disney Company is typically a pretentious college student's favorite pissing target and how it is funny that Miyazaki and Studio Ghibli would agree to have Disney distribute their films to the Western world.)

(All this is also said at the risk of sounding like a pretentious bag of shit myself for once again criticizing another popular artist on the internet, much like how I've pissed out on Tom Preston a while ago here.)

Would you mind clarifying what it is that Zen Pencils did or said that you find unforgivable?

This is an abridgement of what I've pointed out in my previous post. (http://dickjarvisblogblog.tumblr.com/post/80190090443/i-love-zen-pencils-because-its-not-manipulative)

Here is someone's comic taking the piss on that comic. (http://chainsawsuit.com/comic/2014/03/21/a-response-to-zen-pencils/)

I should also mention this is the same person who condemns social media, even comparing it to heroin and other hard drugs. (http://zenpencils.com/comic/129-marc-maron-the-social-media-generation/) As one person pointed out, he has made money off a social media as well, completely contradicting what has to be another insipid "New Media Is Evil" comic, hosted on "New Media".

This man is fucking crazy.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on May 22, 2014, 11:58:32 am
Zenpencils?

Isn't that the same artist who felt persecuted by negative comments to where he used - of all fucking people - Hayao Miyazaki as his personal lord and savior, riding giant mechs, destroying all those who stand against popular culture, notably "trolls"? Because I find that unforgivable.

How unforgivable? Just plain offensive. Like Hayao Miyazaki is a very critical man, he carries a lot of unpopular opinions (he hates a lot of anime, for starters, despite his numerous contributions to the medium), even declared the animation styles of the "godfather of manga" himself Osamu Tezuka "cheap and nasty". He had been subject of media outrage in native Japan numerous times, notably when he commented not too long ago about how the Japanese are unapologetic about the "comfort women" (Korean women used as sex slaves in World War II) and various other atrocities. This man was dehumanized in that comic, treated like he's just this "magical, wonderful, shiny-happy-person" that Walt Disney has been bronzed as numerous times by his own company.

(That is to say that the Walt Disney Company is typically a pretentious college student's favorite pissing target and how it is funny that Miyazaki and Studio Ghibli would agree to have Disney distribute their films to the Western world.)

(All this is also said at the risk of sounding like a pretentious bag of shit myself for once again criticizing another popular artist on the internet, much like how I've pissed out on Tom Preston a while ago here.)

Would you mind clarifying what it is that Zen Pencils did or said that you find unforgivable?

This is an abridgement of what I've pointed out in my previous post. (http://dickjarvisblogblog.tumblr.com/post/80190090443/i-love-zen-pencils-because-its-not-manipulative)

I should also mention this is the same person who condemns social media, even comparing it to heroin and other hard drugs. (http://zenpencils.com/comic/129-marc-maron-the-social-media-generation/) As one person pointed out, he has made money off a social media as well, completely contradicting what has to be another insipid "New Media Is Evil" comic, hosted on "New Media".

This man is fucking crazy.
Well, even a stopped clock is right twice a day.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RavynousHunter on May 22, 2014, 06:44:09 pm
Though, I have to admit, that last comic, the one about "SOSHUL MEEDEEUH IZ EVUHL" is the most moronic piece of self-indulgent, quasi-intellectual wankery I've seen in a long god damned time.  It comes off as the exact same kind of bullshit that people use to claim that there's such a thing as "pornography addiction."  Fuck, porn addiction makes more sense than that bullshit.  According to that piece of drivel masquerading as profound social commentary, all of us here, and anyone that's used Facebook, Beebo, Twitter, Digg, a BBS, a forum, comment section, or any form of impersonal communication with any sort of regularity is a filthy junkie that needs to get the needle out of his arm and get a job.

All while having a slew of social network sharing buttons at the top...of the comic calling people who regularly use social sites little more than fucking junkies.  Clearly, the man's a genius of MENSA caliber, and perhaps beyond.  His level of self-awareness is staggering and his grasp of the meaning of addiction would easily qualify him for a doctorate in abnormal psychology.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on May 22, 2014, 09:16:53 pm
(http://media.cagle.com/29/2014/05/15/148525_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Damen on May 23, 2014, 02:21:46 am
-pic snip-

(http://th03.deviantart.net/fs71/150/f/2011/075/7/c/charlie_sheen_seal_of_win_by_iceyninjagurl-d3bspip.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: mellenORL on May 23, 2014, 10:10:34 am
(http://media.cagle.com/29/2014/05/15/148525_600.jpg)

Someday, over-charging brick and mortar Uni's...someday.....ALL of us will get our educations online, and without you gouging us there, too. You just hasten that day's arrival. To be clear, yes, tax support for higher education has fallen dramatically, thanks to the neoconservative movement, but it does not translate to a 12 fold increase in operating costs for school administration and operation.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/15/cost-of-college-degree-increase-12-fold-1120-percent-bloomberg_n_1783700.html (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/15/cost-of-college-degree-increase-12-fold-1120-percent-bloomberg_n_1783700.html)

http://www.geteducated.com/online-universities/410-online-masters-cost-more-than-traditional-residential-degrees (http://www.geteducated.com/online-universities/410-online-masters-cost-more-than-traditional-residential-degrees)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on May 23, 2014, 02:56:58 pm
(http://media.cagle.com/91/2013/07/02/134039_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on May 24, 2014, 09:33:18 am
(http://media.cagle.com/20/2014/05/16/148548_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on May 24, 2014, 05:11:31 pm
(http://media.cagle.com/205/2014/05/22/148804_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on May 25, 2014, 07:19:31 pm
(http://media.cagle.com/152/2014/05/25/148873_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on May 26, 2014, 02:59:07 pm
(http://media.cagle.com/137/2014/05/26/148902_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cerim Treascair on May 26, 2014, 03:20:19 pm
Edit.  Button.  Fuckdammit.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: I am lizard on May 26, 2014, 05:13:32 pm
(http://media.cagle.com/137/2014/05/26/148902_600.jpg)
It's funny cus Mikey hates welfare, food stamps, and raising the minimum wage. Y'know, things that could actually help the millions of unemployed Soldiers.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on May 26, 2014, 06:16:05 pm
(http://media.cagle.com/137/2014/05/26/148902_600.jpg)
It's funny cus Mikey hates welfare, food stamps, and raising the minimum wage. Y'know, things that could actually help the millions of unemployed Soldiers.
Even a stopped clock...
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cataclysm on May 27, 2014, 03:07:10 pm
It's less of a stopped clock, more being a hypocrite.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Sixth Monarchist on May 27, 2014, 03:28:49 pm
I still can't right-click on my computer (http://pic.twitter.com/7ztpqcnZcf).
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on May 27, 2014, 03:34:47 pm
I still can't right-click on my computer (http://pic.twitter.com/7ztpqcnZcf).
I can:

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BopKSt5IYAI2nLm.jpg:large)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: R. U. Sirius on May 27, 2014, 03:49:55 pm
WHat is that cartoon referencing? I get the Independence Day reference, I just don't get what real-life event it's based on.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on May 27, 2014, 04:14:19 pm
WHat is that cartoon referencing? I get the Independence Day reference, I just don't get what real-life event it's based on.

At a guess, George Osborne being viewed by some as unsuited to the position of Chancellor of the Exchequer.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on May 28, 2014, 08:00:37 am
(http://media.cagle.com/132/2014/03/14/145729_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on May 28, 2014, 06:48:43 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/BcMbzPs.gif)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on May 29, 2014, 04:43:35 pm
(http://media.cagle.com/118/2014/05/28/148994_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on May 29, 2014, 04:45:14 pm
(http://media.cagle.com/118/2014/05/28/148994_600.jpg)

Maya passed away?! Oh wow. Bless her. She will be missed.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on May 29, 2014, 04:51:14 pm
(http://media.cagle.com/118/2014/05/28/148994_600.jpg)

Maya passed away?! Oh wow. Bless her. She will be missed.
Indeed she will.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on May 29, 2014, 06:40:17 pm
(http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/a8WOXKV_700b_v2.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on May 29, 2014, 09:19:33 pm
(http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/a8WOXKV_700b_v2.jpg)

(http://bossip.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/xzibit.png?w=500)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on May 30, 2014, 12:47:01 pm
(http://media.cagle.com/132/2014/05/26/148895_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: KZN02 on May 30, 2014, 02:19:55 pm
(http://media.cagle.com/132/2014/05/26/148895_600.jpg)
Thinking in context of the recent movie, this image is pretty ironic but funny.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on May 31, 2014, 09:13:20 am
(http://media.cagle.com/118/2014/05/30/149116_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on May 31, 2014, 05:55:53 pm
(http://media.cagle.com/132/2013/08/17/136125_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on May 31, 2014, 07:29:28 pm
(http://media.cagle.com/132/2013/08/17/136125_600.jpg)

 8) *SHAZING!* 8)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on June 01, 2014, 12:10:48 am
(http://media.cagle.com/46/2014/05/30/149110_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on June 01, 2014, 11:03:24 am
(http://media.cagle.com/179/2014/05/29/149055_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on June 01, 2014, 06:07:05 pm
(http://media.cagle.com/139/2014/05/29/149053_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on June 01, 2014, 08:40:11 pm
(http://media.cagle.com/179/2014/05/29/149055_600.jpg)

Um, I don't get it.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on June 01, 2014, 08:47:44 pm
(http://media.cagle.com/179/2014/05/29/149055_600.jpg)

Um, I don't get it.
It's mocking Uganda's homophobic laws.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on June 02, 2014, 09:45:46 am
(http://media.cagle.com/20/2014/05/26/148920_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on June 02, 2014, 08:38:07 pm
(http://media.cagle.com/47/2014/05/27/148961_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: R. U. Sirius on June 03, 2014, 09:17:31 am
(https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/8205185280/h02E939D6/)

Not exactly a political cartoon, but I like it.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RavynousHunter on June 03, 2014, 09:28:52 am
...What's with the people's faces looking like particularly coherent bits of fractal art?  Is this Grim Fandango's world of the living?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on June 03, 2014, 09:41:54 am
...What's with the people's faces looking like particularly coherent bits of fractal art?  Is this Grim Fandango's world of the living?
I was just wondering that myself.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cataclysm on June 03, 2014, 06:14:56 pm
#Invalid YouTube Link#
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on June 03, 2014, 06:23:31 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eh6OM3Mii1Q
Fixed.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on June 04, 2014, 02:12:13 pm
These are ancient, but they are political cartoons, drawn by none other than Dr. Seuss:

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Veras on June 04, 2014, 02:48:08 pm
I love Dr. Seuss's political cartoons, especially the pro-Soviet ones that he did during the war.

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Sigmaleph on June 04, 2014, 05:40:56 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eh6OM3Mii1Q

Some day, I will understand why people think it's a good idea to use poorly-animated, robot-voiced video to present content which really should be text-only.

I don't want to go all "if writing dialogues was good enough for Plato, it's good enough for me", but I seriously cannot understand the appeal of GoAnimate videos as a tool for presenting information.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on June 04, 2014, 07:30:32 pm
I thought this was funny:

(http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/aAY9DeZ_700b_v1.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cerim Treascair on June 04, 2014, 09:52:02 pm
scary accurate, I think...
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on June 05, 2014, 09:31:46 am
scary accurate, I think...
That's why it's so funny.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on June 06, 2014, 05:05:38 pm
(http://media.cagle.com/29/2014/06/05/149379_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on June 07, 2014, 01:23:54 pm
(http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/aOq5AbN_700b_v1.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Sixth Monarchist on June 07, 2014, 01:53:24 pm
Some day, I will understand why people think it's a good idea to use poorly-animated, robot-voiced video to present content which really should be text-only.

The Internet seems to like videos too much in general. One of the greatest days in the future of the Internet will be the day when advertisers realise how little auto-playing videos work. Then again, if they didn't learn from MySpace-
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on June 07, 2014, 03:06:37 pm
Some day, I will understand why people think it's a good idea to use poorly-animated, robot-voiced video to present content which really should be text-only.

The Internet seems to like videos too much in general. One of the greatest days in the future of the Internet will be the day when advertisers realise how little auto-playing videos work. Then again, if they didn't learn from MySpace-
I want to punch the guy who invented those things.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on June 07, 2014, 07:38:09 pm
(http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/770/272/aad.png)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: KZN02 on June 07, 2014, 11:52:36 pm
Is there context to that?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on June 07, 2014, 11:54:16 pm
Is there context to that?

The racist stripper who screamed at a black guy for starting his car in a parking lot.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on June 08, 2014, 09:07:44 am
Is there context to that?

The racist stripper who screamed at a black guy for starting his car in a parking lot.
Yeah.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on June 08, 2014, 04:27:20 pm
(http://media.cagle.com/132/2014/06/06/149430_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on June 08, 2014, 04:29:35 pm
Took me a moment to realize those were ostriches, not trees.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: R. U. Sirius on June 08, 2014, 06:34:45 pm
(https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/8209980160/hC008AF52/)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on June 08, 2014, 06:38:48 pm
Shots have been fired.

I'm sorry I couldn't resist.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Alehksunos on June 08, 2014, 06:47:58 pm
(http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/770/272/aad.png)

Is there any reason why some of these cartoons have to look like GoAnimate videos (i.e. look like such shit with their bland, perspective-less artwork)?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on June 08, 2014, 06:49:22 pm
amateur comic artists.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Igor on June 08, 2014, 06:50:58 pm
Bitstrips. I see people's bitstrip comics in my FB feed all the time, they're all equally ugly.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on June 08, 2014, 06:58:51 pm
slacking* amateur comic artists.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on June 09, 2014, 08:28:43 am
(http://media.cagle.com/139/2014/06/06/149462_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Canadian Mojo on June 09, 2014, 01:05:40 pm
(https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/8209980160/hC008AF52/)
1) Known design flaw originally determined to be an acceptable risk since bean counters decided it was cheaper to pay for the lawsuits.

2) A design flaw that seriously eroded customer confidence and prompted an immediate recall and redesign to regain that confidence despite being a localized problem.

3) Operating as intended and with a very good safety record; of the millions of rounds discharged annually, a vanishingly small amount of accidents can be directly attributed to a defective firearm.










(I know, that's some pretty stinky bait I'm casting ;D)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on June 09, 2014, 01:39:40 pm
(http://media.cagle.com/82/2014/06/06/149454_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: I am lizard on June 09, 2014, 03:25:06 pm
(http://media.cagle.com/82/2014/06/06/149454_600.jpg)
Regulations might hamper the non-renewable toxic substance that will most likely run out very soon and which our entire economy is based upon!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: mythbuster43 on June 09, 2014, 05:13:25 pm
(http://media.cagle.com/82/2014/06/06/149454_600.jpg)
Regulations might hamper the non-renewable toxic substance that will most likely run out very soon and which our entire economy is based upon!

Also, I think that massive tropical storms would have a greater detrimental impact on the economy than CO2 regulations.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lt. Fred on June 09, 2014, 07:08:45 pm
(https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/8209980160/hC008AF52/)
1) Known design flaw originally determined to be an acceptable risk since bean counters decided it was cheaper to pay for the lawsuits.

2) A design flaw that seriously eroded customer confidence and prompted an immediate recall and redesign to regain that confidence despite being a localized problem.

3) Operating as intended and with a very good safety record; of the millions of rounds discharged annually, a vanishingly small amount of accidents can be directly attributed to a defective firearm.

But the whole point is that they're being used correctly! That's what everyone is afraid of!

(http://media.cagle.com/82/2014/06/06/149454_600.jpg)
Regulations might hamper the non-renewable toxic substance that will most likely run out very soon and which our entire economy is based upon!

Also, I think that massive tropical storms would have a greater detrimental impact on the economy than CO2 regulations.

Often positive, actually. Think of all the profits and jobs from repairing all those houses.

Famously, the Exxon-Valdez spill was a big win for the local economy.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on June 09, 2014, 07:09:10 pm
(http://media.cagle.com/98/2014/06/09/149512_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Canadian Mojo on June 09, 2014, 08:47:29 pm
(https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/8209980160/hC008AF52/)
1) Known design flaw originally determined to be an acceptable risk since bean counters decided it was cheaper to pay for the lawsuits.

2) A design flaw that seriously eroded customer confidence and prompted an immediate recall and redesign to regain that confidence despite being a localized problem.

3) Operating as intended and with a very good safety record; of the millions of rounds discharged annually, a vanishingly small amount of accidents can be directly attributed to a defective firearm.

But the whole point is that they're being used correctly! That's what everyone is afraid of!


Recalls are for defective products. Regulations are to ensure that products are used in a safe manner.
Tort law and improvements in NTSB safety regulations prevent another Pinto. Changes to FDA packaging regulations prevent a Tylenol repeat.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on June 09, 2014, 10:04:23 pm
(http://media.cagle.com/20/2014/06/09/149493_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: booley on June 10, 2014, 02:10:56 am
(https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/8209980160/hC008AF52/)
1) Known design flaw originally determined to be an acceptable risk since bean counters decided it was cheaper to pay for the lawsuits.

2) A design flaw that seriously eroded customer confidence and prompted an immediate recall and redesign to regain that confidence despite being a localized problem.

3) Operating as intended and with a very good safety record; of the millions of rounds discharged annually, a vanishingly small amount of accidents can be directly attributed to a defective firearm.

But the whole point is that they're being used correctly! That's what everyone is afraid of!


Recalls are for defective products. Regulations are to ensure that products are used in a safe manner.
Tort law and improvements in NTSB safety regulations prevent another Pinto. Changes to FDA packaging regulations prevent a Tylenol repeat.

Remember when you say "vanishingly small amount of accidents" that's hundreds every year.  Actually thousands if some studies are accurate.  So what constitutes "vanishingly small " might be up for debate.  Certainly accidental gun deaths are more then 27 or 7

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/tag/accidental-shooting/
http://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/terrible-tally-500-children-dead-gunshots-every-year-7-500-f8C11469222

Ok but anyway lets go with that second statement you had about regulations.   I would point out that we do already  regulate products when shown they are dangerous, even if that when that danger is in with in it's"proper use to limit their use and even availability.

Cigarettes.  When properly used they lead to chronic ill health and eventual death for thousands.

We still regulated them.  Same with other drugs.  And pollution.

I mean we can't' say that gun violence doesn't  have this social cost.  Which I think is the point of the cartoon.  We have responded to things that cause far less damage. 
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on June 10, 2014, 02:17:55 am
(https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/8209980160/hC008AF52/)
1) Known design flaw originally determined to be an acceptable risk since bean counters decided it was cheaper to pay for the lawsuits.

2) A design flaw that seriously eroded customer confidence and prompted an immediate recall and redesign to regain that confidence despite being a localized problem.

3) Operating as intended and with a very good safety record; of the millions of rounds discharged annually, a vanishingly small amount of accidents can be directly attributed to a defective firearm.

But the whole point is that they're being used correctly! That's what everyone is afraid of!


Recalls are for defective products. Regulations are to ensure that products are used in a safe manner.
Tort law and improvements in NTSB safety regulations prevent another Pinto. Changes to FDA packaging regulations prevent a Tylenol repeat.

Ok lets go with that second statement about regulations.

Remember when you say "vanishingly small amount of accidents" that's hundreds every year.  Actually thousands if some studies are accurate.  So what constitutes "vanishingly small " might be up for debate.  Certainly accidental gun deaths are more then 27 or 7

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/tag/accidental-shooting/
http://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/terrible-tally-500-children-dead-gunshots-every-year-7-500-f8C11469222

any way I would point out that we do already  regulate products when shown they are dangerous, even if that when that danger is in with in it's"proper use"

Cigarettes.  When properly used they lead to chronic ill health and eventual death for thousands.

We still regulated them.
I think you didn't read the entire sentence. "a vanishingly small amount of accidents can be directly attributed to a defective firearm."

Majority of accidents with weapons are due to user error.

If the guns goes off when you look at it the wrong way, that is caused by a defective firearm, when it goes off because someone was playing with it and didn't check if it was loaded that is user error.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on June 10, 2014, 07:44:53 am
(http://oi61.tinypic.com/25im05e.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on June 10, 2014, 06:30:01 pm
(http://media.cagle.com/89/2014/06/09/149516_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on June 11, 2014, 01:13:56 pm
(http://media.cagle.com/82/2014/05/05/148068_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: booley on June 11, 2014, 11:56:53 pm
….
I think you didn't read the entire sentence. "a vanishingly small amount of accidents can be directly attributed to a defective firearm."

Majority of accidents with weapons are due to user error.

If the guns goes off when you look at it the wrong way, that is caused by a defective firearm, when it goes off because someone was playing with it and didn't check if it was loaded that is user error.
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Which actually isn't' that important if you think about it since even if we are talking about user error, that means guns are designed to make killing way too easy.

unintended consequence, inherent flaw or designers just didn't' give a fuck, the effect ends up the same.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on June 12, 2014, 12:23:06 am
….I think you didn't read the entire sentence. "a vanishingly small amount of accidents can be directly attributed to a defective firearm."

Majority of accidents with weapons are due to user error.

If the guns goes off when you look at it the wrong way, that is caused by a defective firearm, when it goes off because someone was playing with it and didn't check if it was loaded that is user error.

Which actually isn't' that important if you think about it since even if we are talking about user error, that means guns are designed to make killing way too easy.

unintended consequence, inherent flaw or designers just didn't' give a fuck, the effect ends up the same.

No, you missed the point. Canadian Mojo was pointing out that the other two examples in the comic were defective products, the deaths were caused by bad products. With guns the vast majority of deaths have been caused by the people using them (wether by accident or purpose.)

If there were thousands of deaths caused by people driving over others with their cars on purpose this would not still mean that the carmakers are evil or that "they didn't give a fuck." While on the other hand, when car company releases a dangerous car on purpose, knowing well that it WILL cause accidents that may be lethal, then the company is responsible. In this case for example the company knew how faulty their cars were but lied and tried to shift the blame. They even lied in a court case to save face and make it look like one of the victims of a crash had caused it on purpose: http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/20/business/sending-alerts-gm-delayed-recall-of-cars.html


For the massive amount of gun related deaths, you could blame the crazy gun laws in USA, or to be more precise the lack of regulation on who can own a firearm in USA. 2nd amendment has caused a lot of death by making regulation nearly impossible. But the fact that guns are very numerous in USA or that many of them have ended up in wrong hands is not the fault of the designers, who are in fact very concerned about making safe guns and ensuring that no accidents happen due to their design. (It's not like they have much control over who gets the gun afterwards.)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on June 13, 2014, 12:14:58 pm
(http://media.cagle.com/89/2014/06/12/149707_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: I am lizard on June 13, 2014, 01:06:29 pm
(http://media.cagle.com/89/2014/06/12/149707_600.jpg)
shouldn't the dog have a whip as well?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on June 13, 2014, 09:56:54 pm
(http://media.cagle.com/77/2014/06/11/149661_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on June 13, 2014, 10:01:21 pm
I guess that's what they mean by "don't tread on me."
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on June 13, 2014, 10:12:53 pm
(http://media.cagle.com/46/2014/06/12/149691_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: KZN02 on June 13, 2014, 11:28:21 pm
I guess that's what they mean by "don't tread on me."
Aren't snakes one of the creatures that are a legitimate threat to them?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on June 13, 2014, 11:29:56 pm
I guess that's what they mean by "don't tread on me."
Aren't snakes one of the creatures that are a legitimate threat to them?

You mean elephants?

I'm not sure.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: MadCatTLX on June 14, 2014, 01:29:38 am
Between the thickness of the skin on their feet and lower legs* and their body mass**, I doubt it.

*This is the area that snake could reach and the area that would have to be rather thick to handle getting scratched while walking through bushes and such.

**Body mass determines how much a given amount of a substance will affect a creature. For example, the bigger someone is he more alcohol they would have to drink before being drunk. There's a reason for the phrase "enough painkillers to knock out a bull elephant."
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: KZN02 on June 14, 2014, 01:36:56 am
What about the trunk?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on June 14, 2014, 01:49:32 am
(http://media.cagle.com/77/2014/06/11/149661_600.jpg)
At first I thought this might be a coincidence but then I remembered how old this game is: http://youtu.be/BPYQCj7wgcE?t=35s

It IS quite possible that the artist has played it.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on June 14, 2014, 07:21:13 am
Actually, there are certain species of snake that can be a threat to an elephant.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on June 14, 2014, 01:10:25 pm
(http://media.cagle.com/73/2014/06/13/149734_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on June 15, 2014, 09:54:09 am
(http://media.cagle.com/73/2014/06/12/149665_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on June 15, 2014, 11:20:59 am
(http://media.cagle.com/81/2014/06/11/149629_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on June 15, 2014, 01:19:35 pm
The GOP has created a MONSTER!

It's like the GOP is Dr. Frankenstein & the Tea Party is The Monster!

And sadly, unlike Frankenstein's Monster in the old movie, THIS monster is not a misunderstood, sympathetic creature.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on June 15, 2014, 06:38:48 pm
(http://media.cagle.com/180/2014/06/13/149765_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on June 16, 2014, 09:53:41 pm
(http://media.cagle.com/100/2014/06/16/149793_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on June 17, 2014, 05:59:20 pm
(http://selfdeprecate.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/repeal-obamacare-political-cartoon.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Feral Dog on June 17, 2014, 06:21:57 pm
True story: Before Obamacare, woodpecker-related injuries were considered a pre-existing condition, and were not covered by most health insurance plans.   ;)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: I am lizard on June 17, 2014, 08:17:38 pm
(https://31.media.tumblr.com/97237d6809f9f0044e7a775960324771/tumblr_n6pe1sez7b1qfr34wo1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on June 18, 2014, 11:06:27 am
(https://31.media.tumblr.com/97237d6809f9f0044e7a775960324771/tumblr_n6pe1sez7b1qfr34wo1_500.jpg)

To me "No True Scotsman" is a good argument only when the arguer does something about the maniacs who make zir look bad (and or help the person wronged).

If a nice normal guy is miffed by slimy misogynists, he should tell said misogynists to "shove it".
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: R. U. Sirius on June 18, 2014, 02:49:30 pm
(https://31.media.tumblr.com/97237d6809f9f0044e7a775960324771/tumblr_n6pe1sez7b1qfr34wo1_500.jpg)

To me "No True Scotsman" is a good argument only when the arguer does something about the maniacs who make zir look bad (and or help the person wronged).

If a nice normal guy is miffed by slimy misogynists, he should tell said misogynists to "shove it".

While the cartoon only illustrates the people who immediately jump on the "not all" bandwagon at the first hint that someone in a group they belong to might have done something wrong, I do think it's understandable for someone to get frustrated when people make sweeping, all-encompassing statements about said groups. I tell misogynists and racists to shove it constantly, but I can still sometimes get angry when someone makes a comment about how "all men are rapist pigs who think about nothing but sex" or "all white people are racist bigots who want to rule the world."
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on June 18, 2014, 06:03:41 pm
(https://31.media.tumblr.com/97237d6809f9f0044e7a775960324771/tumblr_n6pe1sez7b1qfr34wo1_500.jpg)

To me "No True Scotsman" is a good argument only when the arguer does something about the maniacs who make zir look bad (and or help the person wronged).

If a nice normal guy is miffed by slimy misogynists, he should tell said misogynists to "shove it".

While the cartoon only illustrates the people who immediately jump on the "not all" bandwagon at the first hint that someone in a group they belong to might have done something wrong, I do think it's understandable for someone to get frustrated when people make sweeping, all-encompassing statements about said groups. I tell misogynists and racists to shove it constantly, but I can still sometimes get angry when someone makes a comment about how "all men are rapist pigs who think about nothing but sex" or "all white people are racist bigots who want to rule the world."
Same.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: I am lizard on June 18, 2014, 09:16:33 pm
Ditto.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on June 18, 2014, 10:17:37 pm
(http://media.cagle.com/230/2014/06/10/149567_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on June 19, 2014, 12:26:39 am
(http://d3dsacqprgcsqh.cloudfront.net/photo/aOqLPL2_700b.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on June 19, 2014, 09:30:47 am
(http://d3dsacqprgcsqh.cloudfront.net/photo/aOqLPL2_700b.jpg)
One thing that should be kept in mind is that shitty tabloid journalism is nothing new.  Just ask Fatty Arbuckle.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on June 19, 2014, 03:10:34 pm
(http://media.cagle.com/91/2014/05/21/148733_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: MadCatTLX on June 19, 2014, 11:03:18 pm
Is that car salesman wearing a kilt?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cerim Treascair on June 20, 2014, 12:42:20 am
plaid pants... which actually were popular in some areas back in the 80's.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on June 20, 2014, 10:09:47 am
plaid pants... which actually were popular in some areas back in the 80's.
I think just about every decade has its share of tacky fashions.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RavynousHunter on June 20, 2014, 12:16:10 pm
plaid pants... which actually were popular in some areas back in the 80's.
I think just about every decade has its share of tacky fashions.

Except the 90s.  We had Jnco.  I wish they hadn't died off, they were the best pants ever.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on June 20, 2014, 02:09:56 pm
plaid pants... which actually were popular in some areas back in the 80's.
I think just about every decade has its share of tacky fashions.

Except the 90s.  We had Jnco.  I wish they hadn't died off, they were the best pants ever.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pa6SGYWADU
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lady Evil on June 20, 2014, 06:22:14 pm
Well, some people say the 90's "officially" died with 9/11,...
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on June 21, 2014, 09:58:53 am
(http://media.cagle.com/19/2014/06/20/150052_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on June 22, 2014, 09:18:21 am
(http://media.cagle.com/46/2014/06/16/149800_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ironchew on June 22, 2014, 10:26:28 am
(http://media.cagle.com/46/2014/06/16/149800_600.jpg)

Or, y'know, not pissing them off again by occupying their country. Whatever sectarian fervor there may have been in there, it was stoked by U.S. involvement.

I wonder how NPR feels now about their glowing "we're arming the Syrian rebels!" coverage, now that ISIS is demonstrating exactly why arming several disparate organizations is such a bad idea.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on June 22, 2014, 04:22:47 pm
Warning: Huge.

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cerim Treascair on June 22, 2014, 06:23:30 pm
Congratulations, UP, you've summed up Tumblr.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on June 23, 2014, 07:57:29 am
(http://media.cagle.com/114/2014/06/21/150071_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on June 23, 2014, 08:25:10 am
I SHRUNK ULTIMATE PARAGON'S ENTRY A BIT.

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Paragon, you need to get a good paint program & learn to shrink pics a bit. Heck, I'm sure those pic-hosting sites have a function where you can shrink while uploading.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on June 23, 2014, 08:33:50 am
Thank you, Spuki.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: R. U. Sirius on June 23, 2014, 09:22:10 am
I'd still say that's huge enough to make a spoiler polite, if not required.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on June 23, 2014, 05:59:51 pm
(http://media.cagle.com/106/2014/06/23/150110_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on June 24, 2014, 02:26:23 pm
Thank you, Spuki.

You're welcome. :)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on June 24, 2014, 05:39:28 pm
(http://media.cagle.com/216/2014/06/16/149788_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on June 24, 2014, 06:46:17 pm
...*blinks out of unison* .... Oh, I get it.

Two people who have vilified each other are now united to save themselves from a common foe.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on June 24, 2014, 09:28:43 pm
...*blinks out of unison* .... Oh, I get it.

Two people who have vilified each other are now united to save themselves from a common foe.
Exactly.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on June 25, 2014, 08:07:31 am
(http://oi59.tinypic.com/219w5xg.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Sigmaleph on June 25, 2014, 11:20:25 pm
I always thought anti-racism was a codeword for being against racism.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Zygarde on June 26, 2014, 11:14:16 am
Ah the Ant-Racism thing, I keep constantly seeing that pop up (Especially if you're like me and one of your favorite pastimes is to look at the White House Petition site.)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on June 26, 2014, 04:12:10 pm
(http://media.cagle.com/41/2014/06/25/150192_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cerim Treascair on June 26, 2014, 08:34:26 pm
For context, they just fined and banned a Uruguayan player for biting another player.  Again.  He apparently does this OFTEN.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on June 26, 2014, 08:37:52 pm
For context, they just fined and banned a Uruguayan player for biting another player.  Again.  He apparently does this OFTEN.
Maybe they should make him wear a muzzle.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on June 26, 2014, 09:47:30 pm
For context, they just fined and banned a Uruguayan player for biting another player.  Again.  He apparently does this OFTEN.

It's the third time. Some bookmakers were even offering odds on whether Suarez would bite someone at the World Cup Finals.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on June 26, 2014, 09:49:08 pm
For context, they just fined and banned a Uruguayan player for biting another player.  Again.  He apparently does this OFTEN.

It's the third time. Some bookmakers were even offering odds on whether Suarez would bite someone at the World Cup Finals.
I think that goes into "what the fuck is wrong with you?" territory.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on June 26, 2014, 10:51:47 pm
For context, they just fined and banned a Uruguayan player for biting another player.  Again.  He apparently does this OFTEN.

It's the third time. Some bookmakers were even offering odds on whether Suarez would bite someone at the World Cup Finals.
I think that goes into "what the fuck is wrong with you?" territory.

Suarez is going to become what Zidane would have become if it weren't for Zidane's whole "one of the best ever" thing.

EDIT: On another note...

(http://d3dsacqprgcsqh.cloudfront.net/photo/a5d4p9g_700b.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on June 27, 2014, 08:55:57 am
Awesome!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on June 27, 2014, 09:23:39 am
Awesome!

I agree 100%!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on June 27, 2014, 10:07:14 am
(http://media.cagle.com/144/2014/06/25/150228_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on June 28, 2014, 12:01:22 pm
(http://media.cagle.com/81/2014/06/25/150216_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cerim Treascair on June 28, 2014, 06:15:30 pm
THAT one is just funny!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on June 28, 2014, 07:36:34 pm
THAT one is just funny!
I thought so too.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: ironbite on June 28, 2014, 08:42:14 pm
...what the fuck does it have to do with anything?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on June 28, 2014, 11:32:41 pm
...what the fuck does it have to do with anything?

Well, since you obviously haven't been following the soccer games: There was a player who bit another player. And we are not talking about a little love bite, it left some bloody toothmarks on his shoulder, naturally the president of his country claimed that the video had been photoshopped and the player had been framed. There was also controversy because he was known to be a biter, this was something that had happened a few times already but he had been allowed to play because the league likes money and not letting a big-name player play might have been counter to that goal.

Anyway, that incident has now been made fun of all over the internet and media and it has even been used in commercials.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on June 29, 2014, 08:37:12 am
While we're on the subject:

(http://media.cagle.com/39/2014/06/25/150231_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on June 29, 2014, 12:23:41 pm
...what the fuck does it have to do with anything?

Well, since you obviously haven't been following the soccer games: There was a player who bit another player. And we are not talking about a little love bite, it left some bloody toothmarks on his shoulder, naturally the president of his country claimed that the video had been photoshopped and the player had been framed. There was also controversy because he was known to be a biter, this was something that had happened a few times already but he had been allowed to play because the league likes money and not letting a big-name player play might have been counter to that goal.

Anyway, that incident has now been made fun of all over the internet and media and it has even been used in commercials.

So soccer has it's own Mike Tyson!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: ironbite on June 29, 2014, 08:31:56 pm
...what the fuck does it have to do with anything?

Well, since you obviously haven't been following the soccer games: There was a player who bit another player. And we are not talking about a little love bite, it left some bloody toothmarks on his shoulder, naturally the president of his country claimed that the video had been photoshopped and the player had been framed. There was also controversy because he was known to be a biter, this was something that had happened a few times already but he had been allowed to play because the league likes money and not letting a big-name player play might have been counter to that goal.

Anyway, that incident has now been made fun of all over the internet and media and it has even been used in commercials.

Actually I have been following the world cup seeing as how MY country is still in it.  I know all about the incident in question.  Hell, I watched it happen.  I just don't see why putting every player in the cone of shame makes any form of sense in this case.  It'd funnel someone's shoulder to the mouth pretty easily.

Ironbite-now a Lector style mask would probably work better for Suarez.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on June 29, 2014, 10:03:11 pm
(http://media.cagle.com/124/2014/06/29/150359_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on July 01, 2014, 10:20:07 am
(http://chaoslife.findchaos.com/comics/2014-06-30Trans-Trip-Up.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on July 02, 2014, 08:15:05 am
I realize this is a polandball cartoon, but it feels like it fits here...

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on July 02, 2014, 01:41:47 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BqqYmBuCcAASKUa.jpg:large)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: R. U. Sirius on July 02, 2014, 03:14:54 pm
(http://chaoslife.findchaos.com/comics/2014-06-30Trans-Trip-Up.jpg)

This comic would make its point much more effectively if it showed that the man asking the questions was trans and that the straight couple had asked those questions first.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on July 02, 2014, 03:22:38 pm
*comic*

This comic would make its point much more effectively if it showed that the man asking the questions was trans and that the straight couple had asked those questions first.
Actually, that might spoil the joke a bit. The point is that the reader realises that the questions are highly inappropriate and the explanation for those comes when the comic points out that trans* persons face those types of questions quite often.

So, yeah it could have been a comic about someone asking a FTM guy inappropriate questions and then he complains about it, but instead it turns the concept around to make it more obvious how absurd this double standard is.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on July 02, 2014, 07:35:09 pm
(http://media.cagle.com/23/2014/06/23/150116_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on July 03, 2014, 08:52:27 pm
(http://media.cagle.com/46/2014/07/03/150552_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on July 03, 2014, 10:27:13 pm
Ouch...
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on July 03, 2014, 10:52:47 pm
Ouch...
I'll say.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on July 04, 2014, 12:07:34 pm
(http://media.cagle.com/78/2014/07/01/150445_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RavynousHunter on July 04, 2014, 12:39:20 pm
Don't we have some sort of military protection agreement with Japan?  Like, if they were to be attacked, we'd come to their aid?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Eiki-mun on July 04, 2014, 04:15:01 pm
South Korea has apparently already sunk under the water.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on July 04, 2014, 04:24:31 pm
Don't we have some sort of military protection agreement with Japan?  Like, if they were to be attacked, we'd come to their aid?
I think the idea is that Abe wants Japan to have a true partnership with America.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lt. Fred on July 04, 2014, 07:12:02 pm
Don't we have some sort of military protection agreement with Japan?  Like, if they were to be attacked, we'd come to their aid?

Yeah. Basically the US subsidises Japan's defence by stationing troops there, in return for money.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on July 04, 2014, 08:16:30 pm
Don't we have some sort of military protection agreement with Japan?  Like, if they were to be attacked, we'd come to their aid?

Yeah. Basically the US subsidises Japan's defence by stationing troops there, in return for money.
I think Abe wants Japan to be able to stand on its own two feet.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Meshakhad on July 04, 2014, 10:45:35 pm
It's not as if Abe wants to end the US-Japan alliance. Japan has been slowly moving towards ending the arrangement where the US stations troops in Japan. Instead, Japan would simply follow the model of most Western nations, relying primarily on its own troops for defense, but maintaining alliances with other nations. I think we'd see the closure of most US bases in Japan, with maybe a few to provide regional support, similar to our bases in Germany and Qatar.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on July 04, 2014, 10:46:53 pm
It's not as if Abe wants to end the US-Japan alliance. Japan has been slowly moving towards ending the arrangement where the US stations troops in Japan. Instead, Japan would simply follow the model of most Western nations, relying primarily on its own troops for defense, but maintaining alliances with other nations. I think we'd see the closure of most US bases in Japan, with maybe a few to provide regional support, similar to our bases in Germany and Qatar.
Basically.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Meshakhad on July 04, 2014, 10:49:18 pm
Hell, Japan wouldn't even need to rely on US-made weapons. They did make just about everything they used in World War II - given some time, it would be well within their capability to develop a first-rate defense industry.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on July 04, 2014, 10:54:06 pm
Hell, Japan wouldn't even need to rely on US-made weapons. They did make just about everything they used in World War II - given some time, it would be well within their capability to develop a first-rate defense industry.
That might help their economy.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on July 04, 2014, 11:01:29 pm
Hell, Japan wouldn't even need to rely on US-made weapons. They did make just about everything they used in World War II - given some time, it would be well within their capability to develop a first-rate defense industry.
...Sometimes making your own equipment is not the smartest idea.

I can't help but remember that the small arms of the Japanese military in WW2 were all bad. They had one LMG that was innovative and not completely horribly but the rest of their gear was just bad. They used rifle caliber guns in their airplanes which weren't powerful enough to be a credible threat to American airplanes and their tanks weren't really good either.

...This time I'm sure they could do much better (for example, I doubt that they don't insist on placing bayonets on machineguns these days...) but their last attempts to make their own guns did not go well.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Meshakhad on July 04, 2014, 11:02:48 pm
Hell, Japan wouldn't even need to rely on US-made weapons. They did make just about everything they used in World War II - given some time, it would be well within their capability to develop a first-rate defense industry.
...Sometimes making your own equipment is not the smartest idea.

I can't help but remember that the small arms of the Japanese military in WW2 were all bad. They had one LMG that was innovative and not completely horribly but the rest of their gear was just bad. They used rifle caliber guns in their airplanes which weren't powerful enough to be a credible threat to American airplanes and their tanks weren't really good either.

...This time I'm sure they could do much better (for example, I doubt that they don't insist on placing bayonets on machineguns these days...) but their last attempts to make their own guns did not go well.

Well, I imagine they'd start by buying US-made gear, then gradually transition to making their own equipment. We'd probably see Japanese-made aircraft and drones well before their own guns.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lt. Fred on July 04, 2014, 11:11:58 pm
Hell, Japan wouldn't even need to rely on US-made weapons. They did make just about everything they used in World War II - given some time, it would be well within their capability to develop a first-rate defense industry.

The JSDF already has excellent equipment, much of which is made in Japan. Their diesel-electric submarines are particularly good.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: MadCatTLX on July 04, 2014, 11:47:25 pm
Japan actually makes a fair bit of their current military equipment. Your just never hear about it because they refuse to export it and it doesn't get much use because of Japan's rather small military.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on July 05, 2014, 11:15:34 am
(http://media.cagle.com/39/2014/07/02/150515_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Meshakhad on July 05, 2014, 04:07:20 pm
Japan actually makes a fair bit of their current military equipment. Your just never hear about it because they refuse to export it and it doesn't get much use because of Japan's rather small military.

While this is news to me, it is not in the least surprising.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lt. Fred on July 05, 2014, 07:05:10 pm
Japan actually makes a fair bit of their current military equipment. Your just never hear about it because they refuse to export it and it doesn't get much use because of Japan's rather small military.

Japan's constitution bans military export. That part of it they actually do enforce.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on July 06, 2014, 02:42:03 am
I think this belongs here...

(http://d3dsacqprgcsqh.cloudfront.net/photo/a1A99Kb_700b.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on July 06, 2014, 10:46:42 am
I think this belongs here...

(http://d3dsacqprgcsqh.cloudfront.net/photo/a1A99Kb_700b.jpg)
You know, there's a psychological principle where we make ourselves feel better by looking at worse people.  It's why so many people watch Jerry Springer, so they can think "yeah, my daughter might be failing math, but at least she doesn't want to be a stripper".  They call it "Downward social comparison".
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RavynousHunter on July 06, 2014, 10:51:35 am
Or, if you want something that condenses it all down to one wonderful, German word: schadenfreude.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on July 06, 2014, 02:03:41 pm
(http://31.media.tumblr.com/30a5273ad4b29bcbe0ecf8c074338299/tumblr_n5yc2iSqmR1rr5t33o1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on July 06, 2014, 03:07:11 pm
(http://d3dsacqprgcsqh.cloudfront.net/photo/anY6pqo_700b.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on July 06, 2014, 05:06:28 pm
spoiler: big

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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Zygarde on July 06, 2014, 05:55:57 pm
...well that was morbid.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ironchew on July 06, 2014, 07:13:49 pm
If only Americans were as critical of U.S. propaganda as North Korean propaganda...
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on July 06, 2014, 07:23:57 pm
If only Americans were as critical of U.S. propaganda as North Korean propaganda...
Define "American propaganda".
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: R. U. Sirius on July 06, 2014, 08:01:31 pm
If only Americans were as critical of U.S. propaganda as North Korean propaganda...
Define "American propaganda".

"America has the best health care system in the world!"
"America has the fairest distribution of wealth in the world!"
"Anyone can become successful in America if they just work hard!"
"Giving tax cuts to the rich will boost the economy!"
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on July 06, 2014, 09:49:34 pm
If only Americans were as critical of U.S. propaganda as North Korean propaganda...
Define "American propaganda".

"America has the best health care system in the world!"
"America has the fairest distribution of wealth in the world!"
"Anyone can become successful in America if they just work hard!"
"Giving tax cuts to the rich will boost the economy!"
Please, that's hardly comparable.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Second Coming of Madman on July 06, 2014, 10:01:40 pm
I'll get out the popcorn.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on July 06, 2014, 10:02:04 pm
If only Americans were as critical of U.S. propaganda as North Korean propaganda...
Define "American propaganda".

"America has the best health care system in the world!"
"America has the fairest distribution of wealth in the world!"
"Anyone can become successful in America if they just work hard!"
"Giving tax cuts to the rich will boost the economy!"
Please, that's hardly comparable.
Mnnnuuuhhmmmmmerrrruhh...
Yeah, it actually kinda is comparable.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on July 06, 2014, 10:16:41 pm
If only Americans were as critical of U.S. propaganda as North Korean propaganda...
Define "American propaganda".

"America has the best health care system in the world!"
"America has the fairest distribution of wealth in the world!"
"Anyone can become successful in America if they just work hard!"
"Giving tax cuts to the rich will boost the economy!"
Please, that's hardly comparable.
Mnnnuuuhhmmmmmerrrruhh...
Yeah, it actually kinda is comparable.
How, exactly?  It's not like we're completely isolated from different viewpoints.  It's not like we're sent to a labor camp for watching foreign news media.  It's not like people with different viewpoints are executed after show trials.  It's not like our children are taught to kill foreigners in school.  It's not like our government makes racist statements about the leaders of enemy nations.  It's not like we treat our presidents like deities.

Again I ask, how?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: R. U. Sirius on July 06, 2014, 10:29:27 pm
How, exactly?  It's not like we're completely isolated from different viewpoints.  It's not like we're sent to a labor camp for watching foreign news media.

Both sets of propaganda teach an absolutist "our state is the best and all others are inferior and untrustworthy" narrative.

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It's not like people with different viewpoints are executed after show trials.

Both sets of propoganda promote myths about how wealth is distributed in their society. Both place a false emphasis on meritocracy, which in turn encourages giving more wealth and power to the wealthy and powerful. Both attempt to silence argument and dissent, though in America this is more likely to be through media censorship than outright imprisonment.

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It's not like our children are taught to kill foreigners in school.

No, just to view their cultures and beliefs as inferior and unworthy of consideration, while parroting a lot of "America! Fuck yeah!" jingoism.

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It's not like our government makes racist statements about the leaders of enemy nations.

No, but absolutist ones such as Shrub Jr.'s "axis of evil" speech still encourage people to view other countries and cultures as "lesser" and "evil" without qualification.

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It's not like we treat our presidents like deities.

Maybe not explicitly, but being able to claim with a straight face that your leader has a direct line to God is only one step removed, not to mention criticism of Obama being shut down by screaming "racism!" rather than examining its merits. Yes, a lot of Obama critics ARE racist, but that doesn't mean all criticism of him is motivated by it.

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Again I ask, how?

I'm not saying that the U.S. is exactly like North Korea, but there are many more parallels than you seem willing to admit. Your words say "comparability", but your usage seems to be demanding exact equivalence.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on July 06, 2014, 10:39:55 pm
How, exactly?  It's not like we're completely isolated from different viewpoints.  It's not like we're sent to a labor camp for watching foreign news media.

Both sets of propaganda teach an absolutist "our state is the best and all others are inferior and untrustworthy" narrative.

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It's not like people with different viewpoints are executed after show trials.

Both sets of propoganda promote myths about how wealth is distributed in their society. Both place a false emphasis on meritocracy, which in turn encourages giving more wealth and power to the wealthy and powerful. Both attempt to silence argument and dissent, though in America this is more likely to be through media censorship than outright imprisonment.

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It's not like our children are taught to kill foreigners in school.

No, just to view their cultures and beliefs as inferior and unworthy of consideration, while parroting a lot of "America! Fuck yeah!" jingoism.

Quote
It's not like our government makes racist statements about the leaders of enemy nations.

No, but absolutist ones such as Shrub Jr.'s "axis of evil" speech still encourage people to view other countries and cultures as "lesser" and "evil" without qualification.

Quote
It's not like we treat our presidents like deities.

Maybe not explicitly, but being able to claim with a straight face that your leader has a direct line to God is only one step removed, not to mention criticism of Obama being shut down by screaming "racism!" rather than examining its merits. Yes, a lot of Obama critics ARE racist, but that doesn't mean all criticism of him is motivated by it.

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Again I ask, how?

I'm not saying that the U.S. is exactly like North Korea, but there are many more parallels than you seem willing to admit. Your words say "comparability", but your usage seems to be demanding exact equivalence.
There's one element you seem to be ignoring: the lack of dissenting voices.  When you have real dissent, you can't compare it to North Korea with any kind of intellectual honesty.  Moreover, just about all North Korean propaganda comes from the government, directly or indirectly.  Here, however, a lot of this "propaganda" you talk about comes from independent media outlets, businesses, private citizens, etc.  And quite a bit of it is in direct opposition to the government's views and goals.  Apples and oranges, buddy.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Id82 on July 06, 2014, 11:13:01 pm
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: R. U. Sirius on July 07, 2014, 02:11:42 am
There's one element you seem to be ignoring: the lack of dissenting voices.  When you have real dissent, you can't compare it to North Korea with any kind of intellectual honesty.  Moreover, just about all North Korean propaganda comes from the government, directly or indirectly.  Here, however, a lot of this "propaganda" you talk about comes from independent media outlets, businesses, private citizens, etc.  And quite a bit of it is in direct opposition to the government's views and goals.  Apples and oranges, buddy.

The only dissent I see in the U.S. that seems to have any teeth is when it's against changes that would actually improve people's lives. George W. Bush was able to push through the largest expansion of executive power and domestic espionage since McCarthy because he had a compliant, submissive Congress willing to bend over backward to not be seen as "against the troops." The Occupy movement had a good head of steam going for a while, but a lack of direction and consensus led to its collapse. Anti-war protesters were investigated for terrorist connections, even when such a suspicion made little or no sense. Obama did a lot of talking about rolling back the excesses of the Cheney/Bush administration, but has done very little walking the walk; meanwhile, the things he did push for, like Obamacare and an end to the Bush tax cuts, ended up neutered or defeated by stonewalling Republicans, while the Tea Party managed to displace several Democrats and moderate Republicans ("moderate" here meaning "not willing to establish a theocracy").

Even if the propaganda I named is coming from multiple sources, it's still in support of the status quo and against any meaningful change. Apples and oranges might not be the same thing, but they're both fruit.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Second Coming of Madman on July 07, 2014, 02:56:37 am
You two are both bullshitting.

The primary difference between North Korea and the United States is the Juche  imprint of communism, which is effectively a political religion worshipping the Great Leader.

In addition, Juche is effectively state racism that states that Koreans are the "cleanest race" and states they are too weak without  a Great Leader.

Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Yla on July 07, 2014, 05:15:32 am
There's also the reverence of soldiers, police officers et al. as 'heroes' (seriously, this is fucking weird. They do their jobs, no need to almost deify them), the upholding of personal freedom and self-determination to the degree of stubbornness, the promotion of the nuclear family, and probably a few other, subtle things I can't identify right now. To be observed in a lot of American movies.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Eiki-mun on July 07, 2014, 07:35:45 am
Not so much police officers, I would say. I mean, there is a big segment of America that respects cops, but everywhere I've seen, and I've talked to a lot of people nationwide, the general consensus is that cops are, well, pigs, to put it lightly. Racist, money-grubbing, above-the-rules types. Though as someone living in Spokane, I'd say I have a pretty good reason (http://"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Otto_Zehm") behind such thinking.

That said, the reverence of soldiers is a nail being hit on the head right there. You can't dare say a thing against "the troops"* without invoking the wrath of everyone around you. The others, I'll only state that a lot of them depend on the region you're in. The USA is a very regionalist country. Even just twenty miles can separate a vast political gulf**.

*: Remember when it was "the American boys"? I don't. I was way too young. But when my grandfather was alive, he used that term, and research shows it was pretty common back then.

**: Case in point, again drawing from local experiences, Spokane vs. nearby Coeur d'Alene. Spokane, despite electing McMorris Rodgers, is pretty comparatively liberal, even going so far as to support gay marriage, while Coeur d'Alene is practically Nazitown. At least from my experiences living here.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: guizonde on July 07, 2014, 09:29:09 am
That said, the reverence of soldiers is a nail being hit on the head right there. You can't dare say a thing against "the troops"* without invoking the wrath of everyone around you. The others, I'll only state that a lot of them depend on the region you're in. The USA is a very regionalist country. Even just twenty miles can separate a vast political gulf**.

in france, the people are so jaded by war that whenever a soldier gets killed, there are massive protests to bring home the troops. except, here are the hard numbers. there was litteraly a higher death rate working in france telecom than being posted in afghanistan. (deaths in afghanistan (http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pertes_militaires_fran%C3%A7aises_en_Afghanistan) and  deaths in france telecom (http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/France_T%C3%A9l%C3%A9com#Suicides)). granted, there have been more dead soldiers, but until 2011 it was actually safer to be frontline troops. i weep for the victims, but at one point, you have to recognize that soldiers are doing their jobs and taking calculated risks. if france's military has a reputation as a wimp, it's not because of the soldiers but because of how "cared for in a humanistic way" they are. a soldier does his job. he can be heroic, he can be a bastard, just like everyone else. deifying them because of some lofty ideals is a bad idea.



(by the way, i referred to soldiers as "he" for speed's sake, and because of the 89 dead in the french forces, all were men, and not out of machoism because women do fight)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on July 07, 2014, 09:35:42 am
Soldiers ARE deserving of our respect.  Even more so than in the past, because none of the troops serving right now have ever been drafted.  Now, if a member of our military does something utterly reprehensible (massacring civilians, raping women, brutalizing POWs, etc.), that respect ought to be withdrawn, but barring that...
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: R. U. Sirius on July 07, 2014, 10:58:49 am
I'd say it should be the other way around...people earn your respect as an individual first, rather than having it granted because they chose a particular career path. I've met a LOT of veterans, and maybe 10% of those I've met enlisted for any reason more noble than "steady paycheck, three hots and a cot." You can respect the fact that a person's job puts them at risk without having an opinion on the person themselves.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: guizonde on July 07, 2014, 11:49:42 am
I'd say it should be the other way around...people earn your respect as an individual first, rather than having it granted because they chose a particular career path. I've met a LOT of veterans, and maybe 10% of those I've met enlisted for any reason more noble than "steady paycheck, three hots and a cot." You can respect the fact that a person's job puts them at risk without having an opinion on the person themselves.

wow, sirius, that's a shame. most veterans i know enlisted for the "pay back service to my country/ serve and protect/ it's the right thing to do" line of thought. one was flat broke and became a lieutenant while earning his master's degree in electronics (army paid for his scholarship if he served, and turned out he was as good at soldiering than he was at soldering). he's the only one still serving after 7 years, and a tour in afghanistan and in mali. but yeah, you're right. being a soldier can be a respectable career, but you don't become respectable by being a soldier.

UP, you're right, in theory, at least. but that respect should not get to the point where you cannot criticize the armed forces. i'm not part of the "soldiers are paid murderers" crowd, mind you. i find it's an ugly job, but unfortunately a necessary one. that's why i agree more with Sirius' point of view. after all, tropes like "general kilgore" stem from reality, just like the "make the flag proud patriot" dog soldier. respect between the profession and the individual should not be intertwined.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Second Coming of Madman on July 07, 2014, 12:04:18 pm
Seconded.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on July 07, 2014, 01:33:43 pm
Well, in my experience, most members of the armed forces are respectable.  Maybe I've just been lucky in that regard.  And maybe this has colored my perceptions.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: I am lizard on July 07, 2014, 02:00:39 pm
I'm gonna say that while it is true the US has a culture of propaganda, it's not as bad as North Korea simply because generally when i criticize the government me and my entire family aren't shipped off to a death camp to be put on starvation diets.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ironchew on July 07, 2014, 02:40:04 pm
I'm gonna say that while it is true the US has a culture of propaganda, it's not as bad as North Korea simply because generally when i criticize the government me and my entire family aren't shipped off to a death camp to be put on starvation diets.

Some governments are more easily embarrassed than others, true. When you do embarrass the U.S. government, though, they try to put you away. Just ask Chelsea Manning, Edward Snowden, or Julian Assange.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on July 07, 2014, 05:04:19 pm
(http://media.cagle.com/16/2014/07/07/150626_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Canadian Mojo on July 07, 2014, 05:34:04 pm
Well, in my experience, most members of the armed forces are respectable.  Maybe I've just been lucky in that regard.  And maybe this has colored my perceptions.
Maybe you have been lucky, because my experience all of the soldiers I've ever known -- which would include one of my best friends -- were fucked in the head.

Of course, this could be a regional thing since here in Canada we have a rather small military so it is not a particularly attractive or viable career path for someone just looking for a job.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Second Coming of Madman on July 07, 2014, 06:58:09 pm
Well, in my experience, most members of the armed forces are respectable.  Maybe I've just been lucky in that regard.  And maybe this has colored my perceptions.
Maybe you have been lucky, because my experience all of the soldiers I've ever known -- which would include one of my best friends -- were fucked in the head.

Of course, this could be a regional thing since here in Canada we have a rather small military so it is not a particularly attractive or viable career path for someone just looking for a job.

Canada has a military?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on July 07, 2014, 07:10:33 pm
Well, in my experience, most members of the armed forces are respectable.  Maybe I've just been lucky in that regard.  And maybe this has colored my perceptions.
Maybe you have been lucky, because my experience all of the soldiers I've ever known -- which would include one of my best friends -- were fucked in the head.

Of course, this could be a regional thing since here in Canada we have a rather small military so it is not a particularly attractive or viable career path for someone just looking for a job.

Canada has a military?
Yeah.  It's small, but it's not to be fucked with.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on July 07, 2014, 09:07:47 pm
(http://media.cagle.com/73/2014/07/07/150624_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lt. Fred on July 08, 2014, 04:49:00 am
There's one element you seem to be ignoring: the lack of dissenting voices.  When you have real dissent, you can't compare it to North Korea with any kind of intellectual honesty.  Moreover, just about all North Korean propaganda comes from the government, directly or indirectly.  Here, however, a lot of this "propaganda" you talk about comes from independent media outlets, businesses, private citizens, etc.  And quite a bit of it is in direct opposition to the government's views and goals.  Apples and oranges, buddy.

You don't think the US press censors out some views? Daniel Hallin.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on July 08, 2014, 08:34:51 am
(http://media.cagle.com/218/2014/07/06/150618_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on July 08, 2014, 06:52:19 pm
Debating where to put this but it does sort of belong here...

(http://d3dsacqprgcsqh.cloudfront.net/photo/amXEzX6_700b_v1.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on July 08, 2014, 06:59:16 pm
(http://media.cagle.com/163/2014/06/18/149933_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: MadCatTLX on July 08, 2014, 07:18:40 pm
Debating where to put this but it does sort of belong here...

(http://d3dsacqprgcsqh.cloudfront.net/photo/amXEzX6_700b_v1.jpg)

Fun Fact: New Zealand is the only country were you can legally distill alcohol without a shit ton of paperwork, permits, and taxes.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on July 08, 2014, 07:32:33 pm
Debating where to put this but it does sort of belong here...

(http://d3dsacqprgcsqh.cloudfront.net/photo/amXEzX6_700b_v1.jpg)

Fun Fact: New Zealand is the only country were you can legally distill alcohol without a shit ton of paperwork, permits, and taxes.

(http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/500x/52275485.jpg)

(http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/500x/52275542.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on July 08, 2014, 08:21:58 pm
(http://media.cagle.com/95/2014/05/22/148792_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cerim Treascair on July 08, 2014, 09:13:25 pm
Ah, yes... memories of clearing out the bunkhouse... admittedly, we never had to worry about insects.  There was a friendly flock of bats that took up roost there.  Those little guys actually kept me company at night.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on July 08, 2014, 09:37:22 pm
So, um...

How's that political though?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on July 08, 2014, 09:41:29 pm
So, um...

How's that political though?
I found it on Cagle.  That's good enough for me.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on July 09, 2014, 01:24:25 pm
(http://media.cagle.com/38/2014/07/07/150633_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lady Evil on July 09, 2014, 05:26:08 pm
I realize this is a polandball cartoon, but it feels like it fits here...

(click to show/hide)

Is it weird that I heard the Hetalia voices in my head while reading this?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: starseeker on July 09, 2014, 06:48:43 pm
I realize this is a polandball cartoon, but it feels like it fits here...

(click to show/hide)

Is it weird that I heard the Hetalia voices in my head while reading this?
Nope, the proper way to read Polandball is with silly accents.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on July 09, 2014, 09:19:40 pm
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Second Coming of Madman on July 09, 2014, 09:59:45 pm
(click to show/hide)

Good luck with that Vandalism charge.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on July 09, 2014, 10:02:03 pm
(click to show/hide)

Good luck with that Vandalism charge.
"But that advertising was so annoying!"
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: ironbite on July 09, 2014, 10:13:12 pm
Good luck proving who did it.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on July 09, 2014, 10:16:29 pm
It's a Homage to Banksy - who is rather an acclaimed artist these days.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on July 09, 2014, 10:28:59 pm
It's a Homage to Banksy - who is rather an acclaimed artist these days.
I know.  I saw his name.  I was just having a laugh.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lt. Fred on July 10, 2014, 02:32:08 am
It's a Homage to Banksy - who is rather an acclaimed artist these days.

What's his first name?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on July 10, 2014, 02:39:38 am
He's like Madonna - Fred.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lt. Fred on July 10, 2014, 04:30:14 am
He's like Madonna - Fred.

Isn't that a thing, though? That nobody really knows who he is?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Second Coming of Madman on July 10, 2014, 04:51:05 am
He's like Madonna - Fred.

Isn't that a thing, though? That nobody really knows who he is?
Indeed, for Banksy is the master of the magick art of "getting rid of the evidence".
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on July 10, 2014, 07:51:53 am
(http://media.cagle.com/139/2014/07/08/150682_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on July 10, 2014, 09:55:14 pm
(http://oi60.tinypic.com/35ddphu.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on July 12, 2014, 11:42:30 am
(http://oi60.tinypic.com/rtdqic.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on July 12, 2014, 06:17:12 pm
(http://assets-production-webvanta-com.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/000000/16/70/original/Cartoons/m_140703tt.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on July 13, 2014, 11:36:47 am
(http://media.tumblr.com/08978243de108aa08ade2820a748d44e/tumblr_inline_n1kf747NFG1qihivo.jpg)
(http://media.tumblr.com/57e3b211a275f9aeb5267f38f0a296a4/tumblr_inline_n1kf7cP1W71qihivo.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on July 14, 2014, 09:30:38 am
(http://f.kulfoto.com/pic/0001/0044/151uJ43757.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Canadian Mojo on July 14, 2014, 06:42:25 pm
If all you're doing is dragging a block for fun and exercise that might work.

If you're trying to build a pyramid you might actually want somebody in charge of organizing the whole shit show.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: I am lizard on July 14, 2014, 07:11:07 pm
If all you're doing is dragging a block for fun and exercise that might work.

If you're trying to build a pyramid you might actually want somebody in charge of organizing the whole shit show.
Yes but the guy above is not only being aggressive, but is also adding his own weight to the project.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on July 15, 2014, 12:34:38 am
If all you're doing is dragging a block for fun and exercise that might work.

If you're trying to build a pyramid you might actually want somebody in charge of organizing the whole shit show.
Yes but the guy above is not only being aggressive, but is also adding his own weight to the project.
The leader is in charge of the project. He/she is leading the way and therefore we could assume that the project is going in the direction he wants it to go.

(I've actually seen that picture once or twice at some jobs I had.)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Canadian Mojo on July 15, 2014, 03:59:29 am
If all you're doing is dragging a block for fun and exercise that might work.

If you're trying to build a pyramid you might actually want somebody in charge of organizing the whole shit show.
Yes but the guy above is not only being aggressive, but is also adding his own weight to the project.
The leader is in charge of the project. He/she is leading the way and therefore we could assume that the project is going in the direction he wants it to go.

(I've actually seen that picture once or twice at some jobs I had.)
There is a reason kings and generals stopped leading from the front of their armies and it isn't cowardice. They started standing on a hill watching the entire thing unfold because it is the only way to make sense of it and gain control of the situation so that the people involved aren't just wasting lives and resources pointlessly.

Unfortunately, there are some people out there who will just exploit any authority they are given which tends to give bosses a bad name.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on July 15, 2014, 10:45:55 am
(http://assets-production-webvanta-com.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/000000/16/70/original/Cartoons/m_140703tt.jpg)

I looked up this guy (I'm American & he never had a following here). Yeesh, it's like Jimmy Savile all over again!

(Had no idea who Jimmy Savile was, initially, either)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on July 15, 2014, 01:46:38 pm
(http://assets-production-webvanta-com.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/000000/16/70/original/Cartoons/m_140703tt.jpg)

I looked up this guy (I'm American & he never had a following here). Yeesh, it's like Jimmy Savile all over again!

(Had no idea who Jimmy Savile was, initially, either)
You know what makes it even worse?  He actually made a child abuse prevention video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhDaJs3loOA

Fucking hypocrite.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Second Coming of Madman on July 15, 2014, 02:03:36 pm
(http://assets-production-webvanta-com.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/000000/16/70/original/Cartoons/m_140703tt.jpg)

I looked up this guy (I'm American & he never had a following here). Yeesh, it's like Jimmy Savile all over again!

(Had no idea who Jimmy Savile was, initially, either)
You know what makes it even worse?  He actually made a child abuse prevention video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhDaJs3loOA

Fucking hypocrite.
So, it was like He-Man telling me to tell my...priest when I was abused?

No wonder I'm so fucked up, with all the gigeresque freudian imagery.

Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on July 15, 2014, 02:21:40 pm
(http://d3dsacqprgcsqh.cloudfront.net/photo/arp6NOp_700b_v1.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on July 16, 2014, 07:54:47 am
(http://media.cagle.com/139/2014/07/09/150744_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on July 16, 2014, 08:28:14 am
(http://assets-production-webvanta-com.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/000000/16/70/original/Cartoons/m_140703tt.jpg)

I looked up this guy (I'm American & he never had a following here). Yeesh, it's like Jimmy Savile all over again!

(Had no idea who Jimmy Savile was, initially, either)
You know what makes it even worse?  He actually made a child abuse prevention video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhDaJs3loOA

Fucking hypocrite.


*Yecch*! It's like this guy, an NFL star who had a strong pro-woman/feminism image....he turned out to be a serial rapist of women....
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/16/sports/football/ex-nfl-star-who-spoke-out-for-women-is-accused-of-being-a-rapist.html?_r=0

I guess that's one of the techniques of a predator/sociopath/psychopath......act like someone who loathes the behavior & mindset of the person you really are, that way no one would suspect you. Even if you're caught, otherwise sane people will defend you because they don't want to believe the truth.

I wish there was some sort of ASPD-Detector. It would save a lot of folks grief. Just point it at a person....*schazap*...."DEFICIENT EMPATHY! ANTI-SOCIAL PERSONALITY DETECTED! ABORT! ABORT!"
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on July 16, 2014, 08:51:47 am
(http://assets-production-webvanta-com.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/000000/16/70/original/Cartoons/m_140703tt.jpg)

I looked up this guy (I'm American & he never had a following here). Yeesh, it's like Jimmy Savile all over again!

(Had no idea who Jimmy Savile was, initially, either)
You know what makes it even worse?  He actually made a child abuse prevention video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhDaJs3loOA

Fucking hypocrite.


*Yecch*! It's like this guy, an NFL star who had a strong pro-woman/feminism image....he turned out to be a serial rapist of women....
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/16/sports/football/ex-nfl-star-who-spoke-out-for-women-is-accused-of-being-a-rapist.html?_r=0

I guess that's one of the techniques of a predator/sociopath/psychopath......act like someone who loathes the behavior & mindset of the person you really are, that way no one would suspect you. Even if you're caught, otherwise sane people will defend you because they don't want to believe the truth.

I wish there was some sort of ASPD-Detector. It would save a lot of folks grief. Just point it at a person....*schazap*...."DEFICIENT EMPATHY! ANTI-SOCIAL PERSONALITY DETECTED! ABORT! ABORT!"
So, to make a long story short, fuck him.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Random Gal on July 16, 2014, 09:18:13 am
So, to make a long story short, fuck him.

I'd rather not.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on July 16, 2014, 01:13:51 pm
So, to make a long story short, fuck him.

I'd rather not.
Well, he's probably not your type.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ironchew on July 16, 2014, 01:24:57 pm
I wish there was some sort of ASPD-Detector. It would save a lot of folks grief. Just point it at a person....*schazap*...."DEFICIENT EMPATHY! ANTI-SOCIAL PERSONALITY DETECTED! ABORT! ABORT!"

You could build a dystopia with a weapon like that. 1984 would pale in comparison.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: I am lizard on July 16, 2014, 04:15:32 pm
(http://media.cagle.com/139/2014/07/09/150744_600.jpg)
The problem with these kind of cartoons is that it fails to acknowledge the death toll the is extremely lobsided for Palestinians.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: guizonde on July 16, 2014, 04:22:32 pm
@lizard: the death toll is always more lopsided for the grunts and the civilians. i guarantee that if it was a high-command versus high-command slugfest, we'd see more peace talks and less urban bombing.

after studying the israel vs palestine conflict, i can safely say that neither is the good guy. i know quite a few israeli exiles in my area. i've never met bigger antisemites. the rare palestinians i know hate both warring governments equally. i don't care for politics, but seeing an israeli calling for the public flogging of netanyahu is sufficiently jarring for me to take note that it's a sterile conflict driven more by ego than outright demands, in which the only casualties are the ones who didn't ask for any of that shit.

regarding the comic, i like to interpret the word "side" to refer to the political organizations rather than the troopers themselves. the troopers aren't doing anything to keep the fight alive, it's the brass that's slinging insults at each other.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Second Coming of Madman on July 16, 2014, 08:46:39 pm
Israel is the greatest military power in the Middle East, and it can't shut down it's home-grown secessionist terrorist problem even with all our tax dollars.

I say, we cut it's foreign aid if they're just going to use it to make weapons to kill civilians. That's a war crime, no matter how my brother  or anybody else tries to slice it as "anti-terrorism". Even worse, this diverts the government's attentions from the problems like poverty with a poverty rate of 20%

In addition, it's clear that Israel makes our early 2000s America look horrendous. For instance, 1000 Palestinians were killed on the grounds of "500 of them were militants".

Unacceptable for a democratic state, much less a explicit ally of the United States.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on July 16, 2014, 08:54:02 pm
Israel is the greatest military power in the Middle East, and it can't shut down it's home-grown secessionist terrorist problem even with all our tax dollars.

I say, we cut it's foreign aid if they're just going to use it to make weapons to kill civilians. That's a war crime, no matter how my brother  or anybody else tries to slice it as "anti-terrorism". Even worse, this diverts the government's attentions from the problems like poverty with a poverty rate of 20%

In addition, it's clear that Israel makes our early 2000s America look horrendous. For instance, 1000 Palestinians were killed on the grounds of "500 of them were militants".

Unacceptable for a democratic state, much less a explicit ally of the United States.
You make it sound as if Israel is deliberately targeting innocent people.  While the deaths of innocent Palestinians are undoubtedly tragic, it's hardly an industrial-scale My Lai.  Besides, Hamas must shoulder some of the blame because of their cowardly tactics.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Second Coming of Madman on July 16, 2014, 09:00:20 pm
Israel is the greatest military power in the Middle East, and it can't shut down it's home-grown secessionist terrorist problem even with all our tax dollars.

I say, we cut it's foreign aid if they're just going to use it to make weapons to kill civilians. That's a war crime, no matter how my brother  or anybody else tries to slice it as "anti-terrorism". Even worse, this diverts the government's attentions from the problems like poverty with a poverty rate of 20%

In addition, it's clear that Israel makes our early 2000s America look horrendous. For instance, 1000 Palestinians were killed on the grounds of "500 of them were militants".

Unacceptable for a democratic state, much less a explicit ally of the United States.
You make it sound as if Israel is deliberately targeting innocent people.  While the deaths of innocent Palestinians are undoubtedly tragic, it's hardly an industrial-scale My Lai.  Besides, Hamas must shoulder some of the blame because of their cowardly tactics.

Not as cowardly as holding somebody incommunicado before trying them before a military court, is it?

Or using human shields.

Or targeted killings.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on July 16, 2014, 09:01:19 pm
Israel is the greatest military power in the Middle East, and it can't shut down it's home-grown secessionist terrorist problem even with all our tax dollars.

I say, we cut it's foreign aid if they're just going to use it to make weapons to kill civilians. That's a war crime, no matter how my brother  or anybody else tries to slice it as "anti-terrorism". Even worse, this diverts the government's attentions from the problems like poverty with a poverty rate of 20%

In addition, it's clear that Israel makes our early 2000s America look horrendous. For instance, 1000 Palestinians were killed on the grounds of "500 of them were militants".

Unacceptable for a democratic state, much less a explicit ally of the United States.
You make it sound as if Israel is deliberately targeting innocent people.  While the deaths of innocent Palestinians are undoubtedly tragic, it's hardly an industrial-scale My Lai.  Besides, Hamas must shoulder some of the blame because of their cowardly tactics.

If a coward tempts a man to shoot at an innocent individual to get to them, it is still on the man for shooting the innocent individual.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on July 16, 2014, 09:03:06 pm
Israel is the greatest military power in the Middle East, and it can't shut down it's home-grown secessionist terrorist problem even with all our tax dollars.

I say, we cut it's foreign aid if they're just going to use it to make weapons to kill civilians. That's a war crime, no matter how my brother  or anybody else tries to slice it as "anti-terrorism". Even worse, this diverts the government's attentions from the problems like poverty with a poverty rate of 20%

In addition, it's clear that Israel makes our early 2000s America look horrendous. For instance, 1000 Palestinians were killed on the grounds of "500 of them were militants".

Unacceptable for a democratic state, much less a explicit ally of the United States.
You make it sound as if Israel is deliberately targeting innocent people.  While the deaths of innocent Palestinians are undoubtedly tragic, it's hardly an industrial-scale My Lai.  Besides, Hamas must shoulder some of the blame because of their cowardly tactics.

Not as cowardly as holding somebody incommunicado before trying them before a military court, is it?

Or using human shields.

Or targeted killings.

1. That's questionable, but I'd hardly call it "cowardly".

2.  Since when does the IDF use human shields?  That's a tactic Hamas uses.

3.  It's not cowardly, it's a pragmatic (albeit somewhat dubious) means of preserving innocent lives.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: I am lizard on July 16, 2014, 09:05:24 pm
@lizard: the death toll is always more lopsided for the grunts and the civilians. i guarantee that if it was a high-command versus high-command slugfest, we'd see more peace talks and less urban bombing.

after studying the israel vs palestine conflict, i can safely say that neither is the good guy. i know quite a few israeli exiles in my area. i've never met bigger antisemites. the rare palestinians i know hate both warring governments equally. i don't care for politics, but seeing an israeli calling for the public flogging of netanyahu is sufficiently jarring for me to take note that it's a sterile conflict driven more by ego than outright demands, in which the only casualties are the ones who didn't ask for any of that shit.

regarding the comic, i like to interpret the word "side" to refer to the political organizations rather than the troopers themselves. the troopers aren't doing anything to keep the fight alive, it's the brass that's slinging insults at each other.
I meant that the death toll in palestine was higher than in israel.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Second Coming of Madman on July 16, 2014, 09:05:55 pm
Israel is the greatest military power in the Middle East, and it can't shut down it's home-grown secessionist terrorist problem even with all our tax dollars.

I say, we cut it's foreign aid if they're just going to use it to make weapons to kill civilians. That's a war crime, no matter how my brother  or anybody else tries to slice it as "anti-terrorism". Even worse, this diverts the government's attentions from the problems like poverty with a poverty rate of 20%

In addition, it's clear that Israel makes our early 2000s America look horrendous. For instance, 1000 Palestinians were killed on the grounds of "500 of them were militants".

Unacceptable for a democratic state, much less a explicit ally of the United States.
You make it sound as if Israel is deliberately targeting innocent people.  While the deaths of innocent Palestinians are undoubtedly tragic, it's hardly an industrial-scale My Lai.  Besides, Hamas must shoulder some of the blame because of their cowardly tactics.

Not as cowardly as holding somebody incommunicado before trying them before a military court, is it?

Or using human shields.

Or targeted killings.
Since when does the IDF use human shields?  That's a tactic Hamas uses.

It's a documented fact, by HRW, AI, and the UN.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on July 16, 2014, 09:10:40 pm
Israel is the greatest military power in the Middle East, and it can't shut down it's home-grown secessionist terrorist problem even with all our tax dollars.

I say, we cut it's foreign aid if they're just going to use it to make weapons to kill civilians. That's a war crime, no matter how my brother  or anybody else tries to slice it as "anti-terrorism". Even worse, this diverts the government's attentions from the problems like poverty with a poverty rate of 20%

In addition, it's clear that Israel makes our early 2000s America look horrendous. For instance, 1000 Palestinians were killed on the grounds of "500 of them were militants".

Unacceptable for a democratic state, much less a explicit ally of the United States.
You make it sound as if Israel is deliberately targeting innocent people.  While the deaths of innocent Palestinians are undoubtedly tragic, it's hardly an industrial-scale My Lai.  Besides, Hamas must shoulder some of the blame because of their cowardly tactics.

Not as cowardly as holding somebody incommunicado before trying them before a military court, is it?

Or using human shields.

Or targeted killings.
Since when does the IDF use human shields?  That's a tactic Hamas uses.

It's a documented fact, by HRW, AI, and the UN.
And it was banned by Israel's High Court of Justice.  Besides, Hamas got that ball rolling.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on July 16, 2014, 10:10:41 pm
(http://www.hoodedutilitarian.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/Darkhow-John-Barrier-Breaker-2014.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: R. U. Sirius on July 16, 2014, 10:17:54 pm
(http://www.hoodedutilitarian.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/Darkhow-John-Barrier-Breaker-2014.jpg)

Anyone wanna tell me what this comic is referring to?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on July 16, 2014, 10:20:01 pm
(http://www.hoodedutilitarian.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/Darkhow-John-Barrier-Breaker-2014.jpg)

Anyone wanna tell me what this comic is referring to?
Michael Sam becoming the first openly gay player in the NFL.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: ironbite on July 16, 2014, 10:24:09 pm
Israel is the greatest military power in the Middle East, and it can't shut down it's home-grown secessionist terrorist problem even with all our tax dollars.

I say, we cut it's foreign aid if they're just going to use it to make weapons to kill civilians. That's a war crime, no matter how my brother  or anybody else tries to slice it as "anti-terrorism". Even worse, this diverts the government's attentions from the problems like poverty with a poverty rate of 20%

In addition, it's clear that Israel makes our early 2000s America look horrendous. For instance, 1000 Palestinians were killed on the grounds of "500 of them were militants".

Unacceptable for a democratic state, much less a explicit ally of the United States.
You make it sound as if Israel is deliberately targeting innocent people.  While the deaths of innocent Palestinians are undoubtedly tragic, it's hardly an industrial-scale My Lai.  Besides, Hamas must shoulder some of the blame because of their cowardly tactics.

Not as cowardly as holding somebody incommunicado before trying them before a military court, is it?

Or using human shields.

Or targeted killings.
Since when does the IDF use human shields?  That's a tactic Hamas uses.

It's a documented fact, by HRW, AI, and the UN.
And it was banned by Israel's High Court of Justice.  Besides, Hamas got that ball rolling.
And Israel's military is still doing it.

Ironbite-because they don't care as long as a single Palestinian lives
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on July 16, 2014, 10:26:06 pm
Israel is the greatest military power in the Middle East, and it can't shut down it's home-grown secessionist terrorist problem even with all our tax dollars.

I say, we cut it's foreign aid if they're just going to use it to make weapons to kill civilians. That's a war crime, no matter how my brother  or anybody else tries to slice it as "anti-terrorism". Even worse, this diverts the government's attentions from the problems like poverty with a poverty rate of 20%

In addition, it's clear that Israel makes our early 2000s America look horrendous. For instance, 1000 Palestinians were killed on the grounds of "500 of them were militants".

Unacceptable for a democratic state, much less a explicit ally of the United States.
You make it sound as if Israel is deliberately targeting innocent people.  While the deaths of innocent Palestinians are undoubtedly tragic, it's hardly an industrial-scale My Lai.  Besides, Hamas must shoulder some of the blame because of their cowardly tactics.

Not as cowardly as holding somebody incommunicado before trying them before a military court, is it?

Or using human shields.

Or targeted killings.
Since when does the IDF use human shields?  That's a tactic Hamas uses.

It's a documented fact, by HRW, AI, and the UN.
And it was banned by Israel's High Court of Justice.  Besides, Hamas got that ball rolling.
And Israel's military is still doing it.

Ironbite-because they don't care as long as a single Palestinian lives
Oh please.  You talk as if Israel is committing outright genocide.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on July 16, 2014, 10:47:35 pm
Israel is the greatest military power in the Middle East, and it can't shut down it's home-grown secessionist terrorist problem even with all our tax dollars.

I say, we cut it's foreign aid if they're just going to use it to make weapons to kill civilians. That's a war crime, no matter how my brother  or anybody else tries to slice it as "anti-terrorism". Even worse, this diverts the government's attentions from the problems like poverty with a poverty rate of 20%

In addition, it's clear that Israel makes our early 2000s America look horrendous. For instance, 1000 Palestinians were killed on the grounds of "500 of them were militants".

Unacceptable for a democratic state, much less a explicit ally of the United States.
You make it sound as if Israel is deliberately targeting innocent people.  While the deaths of innocent Palestinians are undoubtedly tragic, it's hardly an industrial-scale My Lai.  Besides, Hamas must shoulder some of the blame because of their cowardly tactics.

Not as cowardly as holding somebody incommunicado before trying them before a military court, is it?

Or using human shields.

Or targeted killings.
Since when does the IDF use human shields?  That's a tactic Hamas uses.

It's a documented fact, by HRW, AI, and the UN.
And it was banned by Israel's High Court of Justice.  Besides, Hamas got that ball rolling.
And Israel's military is still doing it.

Ironbite-because they don't care as long as a single Palestinian lives
Oh please.  You talk as if Israel is committing outright genocide.

Probably because they are?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on July 16, 2014, 11:03:36 pm
Israel is the greatest military power in the Middle East, and it can't shut down it's home-grown secessionist terrorist problem even with all our tax dollars.

I say, we cut it's foreign aid if they're just going to use it to make weapons to kill civilians. That's a war crime, no matter how my brother  or anybody else tries to slice it as "anti-terrorism". Even worse, this diverts the government's attentions from the problems like poverty with a poverty rate of 20%

In addition, it's clear that Israel makes our early 2000s America look horrendous. For instance, 1000 Palestinians were killed on the grounds of "500 of them were militants".

Unacceptable for a democratic state, much less a explicit ally of the United States.
You make it sound as if Israel is deliberately targeting innocent people.  While the deaths of innocent Palestinians are undoubtedly tragic, it's hardly an industrial-scale My Lai.  Besides, Hamas must shoulder some of the blame because of their cowardly tactics.

Not as cowardly as holding somebody incommunicado before trying them before a military court, is it?

Or using human shields.

Or targeted killings.
Since when does the IDF use human shields?  That's a tactic Hamas uses.

It's a documented fact, by HRW, AI, and the UN.
And it was banned by Israel's High Court of Justice.  Besides, Hamas got that ball rolling.
And Israel's military is still doing it.

Ironbite-because they don't care as long as a single Palestinian lives
Oh please.  You talk as if Israel is committing outright genocide.

Probably because they are?
Oh, fuck off.  Yes, there are wingnuts calling for the genocide of Palestinians.  Yes, what Israel does is questionable.  But it's not genocide.  Are Palestinians being worked to death, or shot on sight, or herded into gas chambers?  No, they're not.  That kind of exaggerated, dangerous, irresponsible rhetoric only hurts your case and the Palestinian cause. 

You want a real genocide?  Look at Rwanda.  Look at Yugoslavia.  Look at Darfur.  If Israel was committing genocide, would they have withdrawn from Gaza?  Would they have recognized the PLO as the voice of the Palestinian people?  Would they have arrested the men who killed Mohammed Abu Khdeir?  Would they have hesitated to fire on Palestinian civilians (as they have done repeatedly)?  No, they wouldn't.

You know who is genocidal?  Hamas.  They who cheer on the deaths of innocent people just because they were Jewish.  They who teach The Protocols of Zion as if it were true.  They spread stories about the blood libel, deny the Holocaust, and consider the only good Jew to be a dead Jew.  It's clear as crystal who the real genocidal maniacs are.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Second Coming of Madman on July 16, 2014, 11:07:30 pm
I'll get out the popcorn...

Cheesy or extra butter?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: ironbite on July 16, 2014, 11:10:47 pm
Extra Butter
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: chad sexington on July 16, 2014, 11:43:23 pm
This is a cartoons thread, not an I/P thread.

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For content:
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lt. Fred on July 17, 2014, 04:27:01 am
Israel is the greatest military power in the Middle East, and it can't shut down it's home-grown secessionist terrorist problem even with all our tax dollars.

I say, we cut it's foreign aid if they're just going to use it to make weapons to kill civilians. That's a war crime, no matter how my brother  or anybody else tries to slice it as "anti-terrorism". Even worse, this diverts the government's attentions from the problems like poverty with a poverty rate of 20%

In addition, it's clear that Israel makes our early 2000s America look horrendous. For instance, 1000 Palestinians were killed on the grounds of "500 of them were militants".

Unacceptable for a democratic state, much less a explicit ally of the United States.
You make it sound as if Israel is deliberately targeting innocent people.  While the deaths of innocent Palestinians are undoubtedly tragic, it's hardly an industrial-scale My Lai.  Besides, Hamas must shoulder some of the blame because of their cowardly tactics.

Not as cowardly as holding somebody incommunicado before trying them before a military court, is it?

Or using human shields.

Or targeted killings.
Since when does the IDF use human shields?  That's a tactic Hamas uses.

It's a documented fact, by HRW, AI, and the UN.
And it was banned by Israel's High Court of Justice.  Besides, Hamas got that ball rolling.
And Israel's military is still doing it.

Ironbite-because they don't care as long as a single Palestinian lives
Oh please.  You talk as if Israel is committing outright genocide.

Probably because they are?
Oh, fuck off.  Yes, there are wingnuts calling for the genocide of Palestinians.  Yes, what Israel does is questionable.  But it's not genocide. ['/quote]

I agree with that, I mean obviously it's not mass murder. But are we so sure Israel has changed its spots since 1948? This is a state founded on ethnic cleansing - like in Yugoslavia. Is that not what they are doing now? They try to make Palestine so miserable for Palestinians that eventually they will surrender their homes to Israel without a fight. And much of Palestine has already been given up. How much of Palestine has Israel already (illegally) annexed through settlement construction?

Quote
If Israel was committing genocide, would they have withdrawn from Gaza?

Why did Israel withdraw from Gaza? Because it was too expensive to maintain a few hundred settlers - and they'd given up on direct annexation, as in the West Bank. Instead, blockade was the answer. Lay siege, starve them out.

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You know who is genocidal?  Hamas.

Is Hamas genocidal? Of course not. This is exactly the hysterical overreaction you decry in others, and rightly so. Firstly, Hamas has no capacity to commit even the sort of mass casualties Israel routinely inflicts on them. Or even to sufficiently bloody Israel's nose to force them to the negotiating table, which they resolutely refuse to do. Why was there a negotiated peace with Egypt, but not Palestine? Because Egypt was an actual threat to people, and Palestine is not; you can kick them around all day long, and they can't even touch you, except just enough to justify kicking them some more.

Nor does Hamas even have the intention of killing Jews. Would Hamas accept a peace overture from Israel, based on the Green Line? Of course. In a heartbeat. It is to achieve this end that Hamas occasionally uses force, and usually uses non-violent tactics. Indeed, Hamas has been hyper-actively cracking down on bottle-rocket usage over the last year, in order to prevent the deaths of Jews. In order to justify a counter-attack, Israel stopped their efforts.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on July 17, 2014, 06:50:19 am
1.  "Founded on ethnic cleansing"?  That's wrong in so many ways I can't even begin to describe it.  And many Israelis oppose the settlements.

2.  No.  It was done primarily to try and speed along a peace process.  And if they wanted to drive the Palestinians out of Gaza, why wasn't it a continuous blockade since 2005?  If they're trying to take over Gaza, they're doing a crappy job of it.

3.  Citation needed.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Eiki-mun on July 17, 2014, 06:57:59 am
Remember when this thread was about the best of political cartoons, and not the 65-year debacle?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on July 17, 2014, 07:26:37 am
(http://www.bendib.com/newones/2010/april/small/4-25-Confederate-Americans.jpg)

Fuck Neo-Confederates!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Canadian Mojo on July 17, 2014, 09:20:53 am
You make it sound as if Israel is deliberately targeting innocent people.  While the deaths of innocent Palestinians are undoubtedly tragic, it's hardly an industrial-scale My Lai.  Besides, Hamas must shoulder some of the blame because of their cowardly tactics.

I just find it amusing that you seem to think that Hamas should use chivalrous tactics. Chivalry is for two kinds of people: people who are in such a commanding position they know they are going to win and idiots.

I'd also like to point out that Israel does target innocent people. They are just smart enough to not use a bullet to the brain when bottling them up in the middle east equivalent of WWII Warsaw works just as well. Hell, politically it probably works better since there is less bad press and you have a ready made boogey man at your disposal when you need it.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on July 17, 2014, 09:30:39 am
To the folks arguing about Israel, no offense, but as a fellow poster, could you guys please take it to the  "Flame & Burn" section?

Now! Back to business.....

(http://www.bendib.com/newones/2010/april/small/4-25-Confederate-Americans.jpg)

Fuck Neo-Confederates!

Now THAT is a great cartoon. I think we should subvert their arguments against them like the cartoon mustache-guy did here. Brilliant!



(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xaf1/t1.0-9/10411290_10152500327229913_3241185094083309038_n.jpg)

*BLAUGH*! What is that....thing?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on July 17, 2014, 10:02:11 am
1.  I love a good bait and switch too.

2.  I have no idea what that is either.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Second Coming of Madman on July 17, 2014, 01:59:20 pm
1. Do I have to be constantly be reminded of the supposed blood guilt on my line when one of my ancestors designed the Monitor?

2. Fear. Utter fear, Spuki.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on July 17, 2014, 02:00:11 pm
Don't worry, Madman.  I have nothing against Southerners.  However, I do have something against Neo-Confederates.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on July 17, 2014, 02:43:57 pm
Don't worry, Madman.  I have nothing against Southerners.  However, I do have something against Neo-Confederates.

Yep. Southerners are fine. It's the weird, bigoty types like the Neo-Confeds that weird me out.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on July 17, 2014, 05:07:12 pm
(http://media.cagle.com/81/2014/07/11/150822_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on July 17, 2014, 09:38:14 pm
(http://media.cagle.com/133/2014/07/15/150960_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on July 17, 2014, 09:45:24 pm
(http://media.cagle.com/133/2014/07/15/150960_600.jpg)

OHHH I get it! Distracted drivers are dangerous like bombs.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: ironbite on July 17, 2014, 09:49:25 pm
No no no.  See the distracted drivers are the rocket.

Ironbite-cause they go fast!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: chad sexington on July 17, 2014, 10:21:19 pm
*BLAUGH*! What is that....thing?

That is our illustrious Prime Minister, the day after he hijacked a speech commemorating the events of D-Day, to rail against anti-pollution measures.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on July 17, 2014, 10:22:41 pm
*BLAUGH*! What is that....thing?

That is our illustrious Prime Minister, the day after he hijacked a speech commemorating the events of D-Day, to rail against anti-pollution measures.
Ah.  Thanks for the context.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: R. U. Sirius on July 17, 2014, 10:25:53 pm
(http://media.cagle.com/133/2014/07/15/150960_600.jpg)

OHHH I get it! Distracted drivers are dangerous like bombs.

Ironically, my job pretty much requires me to be a distracted driver. I have to try and pay attention to the road and look for the addresses at the same time.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on July 17, 2014, 10:48:03 pm
(http://thecomicnews.com/images/edtoons/2010/0811/gay/01.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on July 18, 2014, 08:51:31 am
(http://equallywed.com/images/blogs/headlines/marriage-equality/signe-wilkinson-minister-defrocked-gay-marriage-cartoon-jesus.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on July 18, 2014, 09:28:17 am
*BLAUGH*! What is that....thing?

That is our illustrious Prime Minister, the day after he hijacked a speech commemorating the events of D-Day, to rail against anti-pollution measures.

Ahhhhh....a Right-Wing, non-musical version of Kanye West.
"I'm gonna let you finish.....but stinky polluted air is the greatest thing in the world!"
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on July 18, 2014, 09:53:40 am
(http://filipspagnoli.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/979b.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on July 18, 2014, 03:22:03 pm
(http://d3dsacqprgcsqh.cloudfront.net/photo/aBKqQyN_700b.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on July 18, 2014, 09:22:05 pm
(http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/795/951/9d8.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lt. Fred on July 18, 2014, 11:29:32 pm
(http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/795/951/9d8.jpg)

How was KoAL007 Adropov's fault?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on July 18, 2014, 11:59:41 pm
(http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/795/951/9d8.jpg)

How was KoAL007 Adropov's fault?

He was General Secretary at the time, so Russkies or something.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lt. Fred on July 19, 2014, 03:39:38 am
(http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/795/951/9d8.jpg)

How was KoAL007 Adropov's fault?

He was General Secretary at the time, so Russkies or something.

But it was an accident.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on July 19, 2014, 04:04:38 am
How was KoAL007 Adropov's fault?

He was General Secretary at the time, so Russkies or something.

But it was an accident.

From what I gathered in Wikipedia, it was more than an accident. In fact, General Valery Kamensky wanted to first make sure that it really is a spy plane rather than a civilian plane, even if it meant that they would then have to shoot it down over international waters, but General Kornukov believed that there was no need to identify the plane and the fact that it flew over Kamchatka and had not identified itself was proof enough.

...So rather than ask the plane who they were and why did they deviate from their flight path they just sent someone to shoot it down.

Also, the pilot that shot the plane down saw that it was a civilian plane but reasoned that it might have been modified for spy work and didn't even tell his commanders that it was a civilian plane. Because "they didn't ask."


And I suppose Andropov is used in the comic because he was a high ranking warmonger at the time and bears some responsibility just like Putin even if neither of them actually pulled the trigger.

EDIT: Actually now that I read further, Andropov was more involved in the denial of the event and believed that no one could prove the CCCP was behind the shooting. He was also apparently involved in leading the cover-up and according to Wikipedia "some believe" that the reason the cover-up seemed so amateurish was that Andropov was quite ill and this was affecting him. So yeah, Andropov was involved on the political side of that incident, just like Putin is now involved since they are claiming that this shooting was a failed assasination attempt on him...
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on July 19, 2014, 10:52:29 am
How was KoAL007 Adropov's fault?

He was General Secretary at the time, so Russkies or something.

But it was an accident.

From what I gathered in Wikipedia, it was more than an accident. In fact, General Valery Kamensky wanted to first make sure that it really is a spy plane rather than a civilian plane, even if it meant that they would then have to shoot it down over international waters, but General Kornukov believed that there was no need to identify the plane and the fact that it flew over Kamchatka and had not identified itself was proof enough.

...So rather than ask the plane who they were and why did they deviate from their flight path they just sent someone to shoot it down.

Also, the pilot that shot the plane down saw that it was a civilian plane but reasoned that it might have been modified for spy work and didn't even tell his commanders that it was a civilian plane. Because "they didn't ask."


And I suppose Andropov is used in the comic because he was a high ranking warmonger at the time and bears some responsibility just like Putin even if neither of them actually pulled the trigger.

EDIT: Actually now that I read further, Andropov was more involved in the denial of the event and believed that no one could prove the CCCP was behind the shooting. He was also apparently involved in leading the cover-up and according to Wikipedia "some believe" that the reason the cover-up seemed so amateurish was that Andropov was quite ill and this was affecting him. So yeah, Andropov was involved on the political side of that incident, just like Putin is now involved since they are claiming that this shooting was a failed assasination attempt on him...
Exactly.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on July 19, 2014, 03:22:23 pm
(http://d3dsacqprgcsqh.cloudfront.net/photo/aBKDYDA_700b_v1.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on July 19, 2014, 09:38:33 pm
(http://media.cagle.com/205/2014/07/18/151120_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lt. Fred on July 19, 2014, 11:07:26 pm
How was KoAL007 Adropov's fault?

He was General Secretary at the time, so Russkies or something.

But it was an accident.

From what I gathered in Wikipedia, it was more than an accident. In fact, General Valery Kamensky wanted to first make sure that it really is a spy plane rather than a civilian plane, even if it meant that they would then have to shoot it down over international waters, but General Kornukov believed that there was no need to identify the plane and the fact that it flew over Kamchatka and had not identified itself was proof enough.

...So rather than ask the plane who they were and why did they deviate from their flight path they just sent someone to shoot it down.

Also, the pilot that shot the plane down saw that it was a civilian plane but reasoned that it might have been modified for spy work and didn't even tell his commanders that it was a civilian plane. Because "they didn't ask."


And I suppose Andropov is used in the comic because he was a high ranking warmonger at the time and bears some responsibility just like Putin even if neither of them actually pulled the trigger.

EDIT: Actually now that I read further, Andropov was more involved in the denial of the event and believed that no one could prove the CCCP was behind the shooting. He was also apparently involved in leading the cover-up and according to Wikipedia "some believe" that the reason the cover-up seemed so amateurish was that Andropov was quite ill and this was affecting him. So yeah, Andropov was involved on the political side of that incident, just like Putin is now involved since they are claiming that this shooting was a failed assasination attempt on him...

If Andropov is personally responsible for the criminally careless behaviour of his subordinates and for covering it up, so was Reagan for the somewhat bloodier accidental/irresponsible shooting down of IR 655 in even worse circumstances as indeed he was for the subsequent coverup. Everyone makes mistakes.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on July 19, 2014, 11:11:51 pm
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lt. Fred on July 19, 2014, 11:19:43 pm
(http://media.cagle.com/47/2014/07/18/151108_600.jpg)

It is at once the biggest advantage and the worst disadvantage of the State system that it allows for experimentation.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on July 20, 2014, 11:46:46 am
(http://media.cagle.com/46/2014/07/18/151109_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on July 20, 2014, 03:03:25 pm
(http://media.cagle.com/20/2014/07/18/151118_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on July 20, 2014, 04:12:33 pm
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Mechtaur on July 20, 2014, 06:40:03 pm
(http://media.cagle.com/47/2014/07/18/151108_600.jpg)

My shame burns.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on July 20, 2014, 09:27:07 pm
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: guizonde on July 20, 2014, 09:33:30 pm
in response to the cartoon above: crucify the murderers (the bastards leading hamas and israel) in public, but leave the innocent alone. this war is giving everyone a bad name, but unfortunately, it is giving more casualties to the reaper than necessary. my partner received the letter today, the idf wants her back in arms.

*rage intensifies*
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on July 20, 2014, 09:39:09 pm
in response to the cartoon above: crucify the murderers (the bastards leading hamas and israel) in public, but leave the innocent alone. this war is giving everyone a bad name, but unfortunately, it is giving more casualties to the reaper than necessary. my partner received the letter today, the idf wants her back in arms.

*rage intensifies*
Damn, that's rough.

(http://media.cagle.com/78/2014/07/13/150857_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: guizonde on July 20, 2014, 09:45:47 pm
in response to the cartoon above: crucify the murderers (the bastards leading hamas and israel) in public, but leave the innocent alone. this war is giving everyone a bad name, but unfortunately, it is giving more casualties to the reaper than necessary. my partner received the letter today, the idf wants her back in arms.

*rage intensifies*
Damn, that's rough.

(http://media.cagle.com/78/2014/07/13/150857_600.jpg)

after reading the israel-gaza thread (and reading a few excerpts from marcus aurelius), i must amend my post. this situation is pushing me out of my personal philosophy of stoicism.

i do not blame the foot sloggers. i blame high command. it seems that israelis and palestinians are both tired of this senseless war and that is fertile ground for progress. it seems to me, however that only a select few idiots (read nationalists) are behind this continuing sterile bloodshed. regarding my choice of punishment, it is voluntarily shocking. i want these people to suffer as much as all the combined victims on both sides. there should be a balance, because high command is too disconnected from the horrors of the front line, especially when it's a civilian on those same front lines.

until i can discourse calmly on this subject that hits too close to home for me, i'll be in the angry dome, reading the soliloques
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on July 20, 2014, 09:48:33 pm
Extremists on both sides pushing their countries into a fruitless war where the innocent suffer the most.  It's a story that's far too common.

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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: guizonde on July 20, 2014, 09:51:51 pm
Extremists on both sides pushing their countries into a fruitless war where the innocent suffer the most.  It's a story that's far too common.

precisely. and that's the source of my anger. over the years on fstdt and now fqa, i've changed. i've gone from hot-blooded to trying to be the voice of reason, and as the years go by, i fear that i'm one of a dying breed. extremism is growing, and i feel more and more alone as the days go by. why can't the silent majority scream out its outrage and drown out the vocal minority pushing the kill-count higher and higher?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on July 20, 2014, 09:55:36 pm
Extremists on both sides pushing their countries into a fruitless war where the innocent suffer the most.  It's a story that's far too common.

precisely. and that's the source of my anger. over the years on fstdt and now fqa, i've changed. i've gone from hot-blooded to trying to be the voice of reason, and as the years go by, i fear that i'm one of a dying breed. extremism is growing, and i feel more and more alone as the days go by. why can't the silent majority scream out its outrage and drown out the vocal minority pushing the kill-count higher and higher?
I don't know... but I have a few possible ideas.

(http://media.cagle.com/61/2014/07/15/150928_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on July 20, 2014, 10:07:12 pm
All those political cartoons would be far more accurate if Hamas/Palestine were depicted as small and bony wielding dinky little home-made "weapons" while Israel is big and beefy and packing the sharpest, most expensive weapons out there.

As it stands right now, though, it's "false equivalence" fallacy up the wazoo in here.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on July 20, 2014, 10:08:46 pm
All those political cartoons would be far more accurate if Hamas/Palestine were depicted as small and bony wielding dinky little home-made "weapons" while Israel is big and beefy and packing the sharpest, most expensive weapons out there.

As it stands right now, though, it's "false equivalence" fallacy up the wazoo in here.
Magus, just stop.  We're stronger than the Taliban.  Does that mean they're in the right?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on July 20, 2014, 10:19:42 pm
All those political cartoons would be far more accurate if Hamas/Palestine were depicted as small and bony wielding dinky little home-made "weapons" while Israel is big and beefy and packing the sharpest, most expensive weapons out there.

As it stands right now, though, it's "false equivalence" fallacy up the wazoo in here.
Magus, just stop.  We're stronger than the Taliban.  Does that mean they're in the right?

If we drove the Middle Easterns into a small corral, made it smaller with each month, and destroyed their homes just to replace it with our own, so that they had no choice but to rely on the Taliban to save themselves from us?  Then I would say yes.

Right now, though, I'm saying "You're blinding yourself with false equivalency and prejudice."
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on July 20, 2014, 10:42:58 pm
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ironchew on July 20, 2014, 10:55:33 pm
Remember when this thread was about good political cartoons and not UP's pictographic bully pulpit?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on July 20, 2014, 10:56:51 pm
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on July 20, 2014, 11:02:46 pm
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on July 20, 2014, 11:28:56 pm
Modify button, learn it, live it, love it, use it.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on July 20, 2014, 11:43:00 pm
Modify button, learn it, live it, love it, use it.
It wasn't working for me.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: ironbite on July 20, 2014, 11:52:36 pm
Remember when this thread was about good political cartoons and not UP's pictographic bully pulpit?

Remember when people got a chance to post inbetween UP's pic spams?

Ironbite-Pepperidge Farm remembers
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on July 21, 2014, 07:19:43 am
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: guizonde on July 21, 2014, 07:43:41 am
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living in france, the general sentiment has not changed in roughly 900 years (maybe more, but i haven't seen older sources than the XIIth century). gypsys, romas, and other nomadic people have never been welcome anywhere because they were associated with disease and theft. you can have a very interesting read on the subject if you look for the "errant jew" myth (antijudaism dates back to slightly before the turn of the first millenium and went up from the XIIth to the XIVth century).

whether true or not, roma are now associated with parasiting the system, child exploitation and human trafficking along with theft. we are faced with a conundrum: the roma do not speak the language and cannot get proper schooling because even if they're legal immigrants in france they are still considered scum, so they close up their community to the french, creating a downward spiral. for the roma to enjoy full citizenship, the european governments should overlook their sorry reputation.

on the other hand, it has been proven time and time again that a considerable minority (to the tune of 10%) of roma do engage in awful practices: children begging as young as 3 years old, human trafficking, theft (mostly "precious" metals like copper and zinc sold to metal recyclers). it's a statistics game as always. the few visible roma in toulouse are mostly of the "young woman with child begging" type. i've talked to a couple who try and integrate saying that those people are attached to roma crime syndicates and are building huge fortunes back home on the exploitation of others. a side effect is that those few bastards are making it hell for other roma who just want to live according to their nomad tradition.

the eu suffers from the fall of the ussr: we have a rich western block, a poor eastern block, and an economic crisis making things worse. crime is obviously on the rise, and with nationalism rising, we're looking at a real powder keg for social unrest.

tl;dr: it's a major culture shock and both the eu and the roma tribes are suffering from it.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on July 21, 2014, 08:20:52 am
European journalist: "What do you call Roma in Canada?"
Canadian journalist: "People?"
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: guizonde on July 21, 2014, 08:22:34 am
European journalist: "What do you call Roma in Canada?"
Canadian journalist: "People?"

sad thing: it's been, what? a couple of thousand years since the old cain and abel story, right? and still today people do the sedentary vs nomadic distinction... you'd think we'd have learned by now...
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Igor on July 21, 2014, 09:38:04 am
European journalist: "What do you call Roma in Canada?"
Canadian journalist: "People?"

Unless the Canadian journalist works for Sun TV News, evidently.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on July 21, 2014, 09:56:52 am
European journalist: "What do you call Roma in Canada?"
Canadian journalist: "People?"

Unless the Canadian journalist works for Sun TV News, evidently.

You'll excuse me for not considering anyone who works for Sun a journalist.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Igor on July 21, 2014, 10:05:14 am
Point taken, though I do very distinctly remember the coverage of that particular controversy. In particular one of Carol Off's best quotes: "Why wasn't he fired? I would have been fired." Says it all, really.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Canadian Mojo on July 21, 2014, 11:39:27 am
European journalist: "What do you call Roma in Canada?"
Canadian journalist: "People?"
Snarky journo: "We have Indians instead."
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on July 21, 2014, 03:05:31 pm
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on July 22, 2014, 05:19:00 pm
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on July 22, 2014, 07:58:47 pm
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on July 23, 2014, 06:54:32 am
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on July 26, 2014, 10:46:51 am
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on July 26, 2014, 11:48:31 am
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No "BENGHAZIIIII!" setting?

Oh, I get it, they want to reverse everything. Got it!

There should still be a "Benghazi" setting though....Another "Drive" setting, perhaps?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on July 26, 2014, 12:32:22 pm
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Sixth Monarchist on July 26, 2014, 05:44:29 pm
GDP in the UK has returned to 2008 levels (http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/cartoon/2014/jul/25/george-osborne-recovery-cost). Naturally, the Conservative Party and the press are jubilant; taking six years to achieve nothing is now the bar for success in UK politics.

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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on July 26, 2014, 05:50:48 pm
GDP in the UK has returned to 2008 levels (http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/cartoon/2014/jul/25/george-osborne-recovery-cost). Naturally, the Conservative Party and the press are jubilant; taking six years to achieve nothing is now the bar for success in UK politics.

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(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2014/7/25/1406316803501/Martin-Rowson-25.07.2014-014.jpg)

It's a good thing we had context, because otherwise I'd have no idea what this cartoon was about.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Damen on July 27, 2014, 02:08:52 pm
(http://cdn.thedevilspanties.com/comics/20140714.png) (http://thedevilspanties.com/archives/10047)

(http://cdn.thedevilspanties.com/comics/20140527.png) (http://thedevilspanties.com/archives/9944)

(http://cdn.thedevilspanties.com/comics/20140417.png) (http://thedevilspanties.com/archives/9863)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: I am lizard on July 27, 2014, 02:37:32 pm
(http://cdn.thedevilspanties.com/comics/20140714.png)

What annoys me about this one is the other bones in the pile.
Is it trying to say Immigration, global warming, and gay marriage aren't important and that the only thing that we should care about is Campaigh finance reform?
 (The rest are excellent, though.)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ironchew on July 27, 2014, 02:52:17 pm
Are you trying to say that gun control, abortion, and science education standards aren't important and that the only things that we should care about are immigration, global warming, gay marriage, and campaign finance reform?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Sigmaleph on July 27, 2014, 03:01:45 pm
(http://cdn.thedevilspanties.com/comics/20140714.png)

What annoys me about this one is the other bones in the pile.
Is it trying to say Immigration, global warming, and gay marriage aren't important and that the only thing that we should care about is Campaigh finance reform?
 (The rest are excellent, though.)

I think the point is not that those subjects are unimportant, just that they are long-standing issues where the Left vs Right dynamics prevents people with cooperating on something both sides can agree is in their interest.

Though that just might be me projecting my views onto the cartoon.

There is also an entirely different argument to be made that if we get campaign finance reform then we might fix a major failure in the system which would then help sorting out all those other issues. I don't really buy it, but it's there.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on July 27, 2014, 04:02:00 pm
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on July 29, 2014, 12:33:05 pm
Here is a big one:
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on July 30, 2014, 02:00:58 pm
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on July 31, 2014, 07:34:12 am
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on July 31, 2014, 01:28:01 pm
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on July 31, 2014, 04:42:11 pm
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on July 31, 2014, 06:55:24 pm
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Sigmaleph on July 31, 2014, 10:00:03 pm
Ok, that one was actually funny.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on July 31, 2014, 10:36:22 pm
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: chad sexington on July 31, 2014, 10:44:00 pm
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Ok, that one was actually funny.

It is.  It actually reminds me of this non-ironic Dees:
(http://www.r-sw.com/custimages/dd395-Putin%20(site).jpg)

edit:  Too slow :(
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RavynousHunter on August 01, 2014, 07:34:20 am
Even when I can understand his point, Dees still manages to make things both incomprehensible and insane.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on August 01, 2014, 07:42:56 am
Even when I can understand his point, Dees still manages to make things both incomprehensible and insane.
At least he's good from a technical standpoint.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RavynousHunter on August 01, 2014, 08:00:05 am
Aye, his artwork is very well done, that's for sure.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on August 01, 2014, 12:01:03 pm
Aye, his artwork is very well done, that's for sure.
Shame about its content.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on August 02, 2014, 09:20:44 am
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: SpaceProg on August 02, 2014, 10:06:30 am
Oh, we'll try not to, Kim.  We'll try not to.  ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on August 02, 2014, 05:55:00 pm
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on August 02, 2014, 08:26:07 pm
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: ironbite on August 02, 2014, 08:57:10 pm
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Which honestly is how it should go down.  The House has no standing in this whatsoever and to even try this is a waste of taxpayer's time and money.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on August 02, 2014, 08:59:07 pm
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Which honestly is how it should go down.  The House has no standing in this whatsoever and to even try this is a waste of taxpayer's time and money.
Exactly.  They don't have a leg to stand on.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: mythbuster43 on August 02, 2014, 10:22:32 pm
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Which honestly is how it should go down.  The House has no standing in this whatsoever and to even try this is a waste of taxpayer's time and money.

That's never stopped politicians before.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on August 03, 2014, 09:22:59 am
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on August 03, 2014, 10:06:51 pm
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on August 04, 2014, 02:24:29 am
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on August 04, 2014, 10:17:41 am
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on August 04, 2014, 04:03:25 pm
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Alehksunos on August 04, 2014, 05:35:07 pm
^ I am not particularly impressed with this strip, but that's maybe because I am reminded of the shit-fits JonTron has been throwing recently.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on August 04, 2014, 06:59:10 pm
^ I am not particularly impressed with this strip, but that's maybe because I am reminded of the shit-fits JonTron has been throwing recently.

Not sure what the two have to do with each other (other than tumblr, like other places, bitching about JonTron) but okay.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on August 04, 2014, 09:46:28 pm
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on August 05, 2014, 07:26:01 am
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on August 05, 2014, 11:14:01 am
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: guizonde on August 05, 2014, 09:24:16 pm
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original title of the image: I wish it were easier for more people to accept such an answer and move on to a different conversation.

it's a surprisingly humane view for 9gag.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ironchew on August 05, 2014, 10:30:03 pm
-snip-

original title of the image: I wish it were easier for more people to accept such an answer and move on to a different conversation.

it's a surprisingly humane view for 9gag.

Destroying the Earth is surprisingly difficult. You could say the Earth is built to last -- it's a huge ball of iron that's been around for a little over a third of the age of the universe and it's not going away anytime soon.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on August 05, 2014, 10:37:23 pm
-snip-

original title of the image: I wish it were easier for more people to accept such an answer and move on to a different conversation.

it's a surprisingly humane view for 9gag.

Destroying the Earth is surprisingly difficult. You could say the Earth is built to last -- it's a huge ball of iron that's been around for a little over a third of the age of the universe and it's not going away anytime soon.
Nobody's talking about the planet itself.  They mean the environment.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on August 06, 2014, 08:56:02 am
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on August 06, 2014, 12:45:43 pm
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: I am lizard on August 06, 2014, 02:00:53 pm
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At least Ebola does stuff.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: MadCatTLX on August 06, 2014, 07:12:18 pm
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At least Ebola does stuff.

Ebola 2014!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on August 07, 2014, 07:25:53 am
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ironchew on August 07, 2014, 08:58:47 am
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on August 07, 2014, 12:37:40 pm
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on August 07, 2014, 05:42:07 pm
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ironchew on August 07, 2014, 06:06:02 pm
-snip-

What the "Western Media" shows us is instructive in illustrating the poison in a culture. Moderates enable the extremists, and you wouldn't see the fucked up aspects of Muslim culture such as mobs aimed at a Danish cartoon, honor killings, and death-by-apostasy without broad support from ordinary Muslims.

While I think it would be similarly instructive for the mainstream media to turn its lens inward to the fucked up aspects of Christian culture as well (really, every successful religion has enough of this to go around), Muslim society is certainly getting the attention it deserves.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Mechtaur on August 08, 2014, 03:23:55 am
-snip-

What the "Western Media" shows us is instructive in illustrating the poison in a culture. Moderates enable the extremists, and you wouldn't see the fucked up aspects of Muslim culture such as mobs aimed at a Danish cartoon, honor killings, and death-by-apostasy without broad support from ordinary Muslims.

While I think it would be similarly instructive for the mainstream media to turn its lens inward to the fucked up aspects of Christian culture as well (really, every successful religion has enough of this to go around), Muslim society is certainly getting the attention it deserves.

You can use this logic to point towards "poison" in any "culture" or group. It's like saying anyone in the SJ community supports the SJWs that they actually fight against, much in the same way if you actually talk to some Muslims.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: I am lizard on August 08, 2014, 03:29:04 am
Err, Ironchew has stated this is more or less what he believes.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Mechtaur on August 08, 2014, 03:34:50 am
Err, Ironchew has stated this is more or less what he believes.

And? It is the same bullshit logic that has been used to sow and feed hate towards other groups. It has absolutely no positive value and simply throws everyone under a label under the bus instead of working to get rid of the problematic mentalities and behaviors.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: lord gibbon on August 08, 2014, 03:34:59 am
Eh, my only issue is the use of the term "Muslim child". Children do not have a religion. They are a child of Muslim parents, nothing more. I am quite opposed to religious labeling of children. Let them develop on their own, don't force a label on them.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: I am lizard on August 08, 2014, 10:23:57 am
Err, Ironchew has stated this is more or less what he believes.

And? It is the same bullshit logic that has been used to sow and feed hate towards other groups. It has absolutely no positive value and simply throws everyone under a label under the bus instead of working to get rid of the problematic mentalities and behaviors.
No, I meant that he believes the part about social justice.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: I am lizard on August 08, 2014, 10:32:03 am
Eh, my only issue is the use of the term "Muslim child". Children do not have a religion. They are a child of Muslim parents, nothing more. I am quite opposed to religious labeling of children. Let them develop on their own, don't force a label on them.
It probably also means "Arabic"
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ironchew on August 08, 2014, 12:43:33 pm
Eh, my only issue is the use of the term "Muslim child". Children do not have a religion. They are a child of Muslim parents, nothing more. I am quite opposed to religious labeling of children. Let them develop on their own, don't force a label on them.

Without the ability to indoctrinate children, all religion would collapse within a couple of generations. They use these labels for a reason.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on August 08, 2014, 12:46:31 pm
Eh, my only issue is the use of the term "Muslim child". Children do not have a religion. They are a child of Muslim parents, nothing more. I am quite opposed to religious labeling of children. Let them develop on their own, don't force a label on them.

Without the ability to indoctrinate children, all religion would collapse within a couple of generations. They use these labels for a reason.
Yeah, no.

And why am I not surprised you're an Islamophobe?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: I am lizard on August 08, 2014, 01:06:27 pm
Could we just cut to the crap and just start a debate thread for this?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ironchew on August 08, 2014, 01:23:42 pm
(http://www.aina.org/images/muhimage03.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Mechtaur on August 08, 2014, 01:59:25 pm
(http://www.aina.org/images/muhimage03.jpg)

Is this supposed to be Muhammad?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: I am lizard on August 08, 2014, 02:24:00 pm
(http://www.aina.org/images/muhimage03.jpg)
(http://img.4plebs.org/boards/x/image/1365/88/1365881947626.png)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: SCarpelan on August 08, 2014, 05:55:39 pm
[derail]
I don't feel all that comfortable ending my hiatus by bringing up an old issue but I'm still doing this because this is not the first nor will it probably be the last time the definition of racism has been the subject of an argument. So, I'm doing this hoping that I'll be able to clarify this issue for people since I've actually taken university courses in the subject.

Around 50 pages ago there was again the debate about the definition of racism: is it only prejudice or is it connected to the institutions and power? People seem to have the idea that it's just a redefinition the more zealous SJWs came up with but that's not the case. This definition of racism has its roots in the actual academic literature about ethnicity and racism. Yes, this is redefining a commonly used word but it's not unusual for an academic discipline to redefine terms more precisely in order to enable more accurate communication. I have nothing against the more colloquial definition as long as people are aware that the more precise use is a completely valid one. In this case it's not just SJWs making a fuss about nothing although I wouldn't be surprised if they were guilty of distorting that definition as well.
[/derail]
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Alehksunos on August 08, 2014, 07:30:01 pm
While clearly you are defining an old topic on Social Justice Warriors/Zealots/whatever (fuck, I hate that term thanks to loony right-wingers using it as a smear term for rational-minded people rightfully practicing freedom of speech), I wonder if your topic is also able to mesh into the current topic; legitimate criticism of Islam and other Abrahamic faiths (topics like misogyny and homophobia/transphobia) vs. racism against Arabs, Persians/Iranians, Afghans, Pakistanis, etc.

No, I don't care if Ironchew is either a troll (someone who is asking for attention) or a legit prick.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: I am lizard on August 08, 2014, 08:35:46 pm
He's both in many ways i suppose.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ironchew on August 08, 2014, 08:43:34 pm
I already started an offshoot thread (http://fqa.digibase.ca/index.php?topic=5925.0) at your request, Lizard. Let's not continue to rustle this thread with bullshit.

(http://www.aina.org/images/muhimage11.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Mechtaur on August 08, 2014, 09:51:34 pm
I already started an offshoot thread (http://fqa.digibase.ca/index.php?topic=5925.0) at your request, Lizard. Let's not continue to rustle this thread with bullshit.

(http://www.aina.org/images/muhimage11.jpg)

>Muh Hammad!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on August 09, 2014, 12:51:45 pm
(http://media.cagle.com/10/2014/08/08/152057_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: KZN02 on August 09, 2014, 06:31:55 pm
(http://oi62.tinypic.com/n5g0lt.jpg)
I'm reminded of that Afghanistan manga.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on August 09, 2014, 08:24:59 pm
(http://oi62.tinypic.com/n5g0lt.jpg)
I'm reminded of that Afghanistan manga.
Could you please elaborate?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: SCarpelan on August 09, 2014, 09:04:54 pm
I'm reminded of that Afghanistan manga.
Could you please elaborate?
If I guess right he refers to a muslim artist in Deviantart - that's who came to my mind at least. He draws manga about the prejudices against muslims and his interpretation of Koran. Both the style and the message are so similar that I'd be surprised if this isn't his work.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on August 09, 2014, 09:16:45 pm
Yeah, that is his work, I'm sure.

If I recall correctly, though, that guy is sort of an apologist.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: KZN02 on August 10, 2014, 01:35:17 am
Actually, I was referring to this (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afghanis-tan).
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on August 10, 2014, 11:42:04 am
(http://media.cagle.com/136/2014/08/09/152071_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: guizonde on August 10, 2014, 11:48:48 am
(http://media.cagle.com/136/2014/08/09/152071_600.jpg)

or you know, you could google it, make a script for it (loads of tutorials that work coming from a guy with a lower level than a script kiddy), or bypass it by bios... [/smartass]

but yeah, anyone who thinks their computer is secure should check out some tinfoil-hat crazy websurvivalist's setup to see how hard it is to make your pc fort knox... i just accept it and move on (which is bad, by the way).

it's wrong for big agencies and megacorps to have that level of access to personnal info.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on August 10, 2014, 03:29:16 pm
(http://media.cagle.com/197/2014/08/09/152068_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Svata on August 10, 2014, 07:51:39 pm
(http://media.cagle.com/197/2014/08/09/152068_600.jpg)

Waitwaitwaitwait.... DEAD to Israel?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lt. Fred on August 10, 2014, 09:03:10 pm
As in we are dead to Israel?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: chad sexington on August 10, 2014, 09:32:00 pm
I'm assuming it's a Turkish, so... non-English-speaker I guess?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on August 10, 2014, 09:38:19 pm
I'm assuming it's a Turkish, so... non-English-speaker I guess?
Most likely.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Svata on August 11, 2014, 12:41:32 am
Is it too much to ask to let me nitpick and ignore the point of something? :P
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on August 11, 2014, 10:02:52 am
(http://d3dsacqprgcsqh.cloudfront.net/photo/anXYKLL_700b_v2.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lady Evil on August 11, 2014, 01:26:24 pm
(http://oi62.tinypic.com/n5g0lt.jpg)
I'm reminded of that Afghanistan manga.

Don't forget the hardworking Muslim girl who is reminded that she's not allowed to be anything but a tender mother and is forced into a marriage with a 60 year old Muslim man. Or the Muslim girl who is "honor killed" for getting raped. Or the hardworking Muslim girl who gets shot for daring to go to school. (BTW, what's so "hard working" about putting on a Captain Morgan pose and pointing at the sky?)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on August 11, 2014, 01:34:27 pm
(BTW, what's so "hard working" about putting on a Captain Morgan pose and pointing at the sky?)

It's a common anime pose just before taking on a monumental task.  Don't be such a literalist.

In her case, it's probably risking her life to challenge the patriarchy even if it means facing the patriarchy and possibly getting killed.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: lord gibbon on August 11, 2014, 08:47:05 pm
Think Malala Yousofzai.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ironchew on August 12, 2014, 12:26:27 am
We have a F&B for your rants:http://fqa.digibase.ca/index.php?topic=5925.45 (http://fqa.digibase.ca/index.php?topic=5925.45)

I thought Lady Evil brought up several good points. This doesn't need to go into a thread you've already tried to derail.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: I am lizard on August 12, 2014, 02:39:37 am
We have a F&B for your rants:http://fqa.digibase.ca/index.php?topic=5925.45 (http://fqa.digibase.ca/index.php?topic=5925.45)

I thought Lady Evil brought up several good points.
Uhh, they were only bringing up one point. ???
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on August 12, 2014, 08:13:00 am
Yes, because that happens in every Muslim country.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on August 12, 2014, 03:36:04 pm
(http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/809/900/1f5.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lady Evil on August 12, 2014, 03:38:46 pm
We have a F&B for your rants:http://fqa.digibase.ca/index.php?topic=5925.45 (http://fqa.digibase.ca/index.php?topic=5925.45)

I thought Lady Evil brought up several good points.
Uhh, they were only bringing up one point. ???

One point, several points...I don't know myself. I will say the really big problem I have is how shabbily women and girls are treated by Shariah law.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on August 12, 2014, 03:42:17 pm
We have a F&B for your rants:http://fqa.digibase.ca/index.php?topic=5925.45 (http://fqa.digibase.ca/index.php?topic=5925.45)

I thought Lady Evil brought up several good points.
Uhh, they were only bringing up one point. ???

One point, several points...I don't know myself. I will say the really big problem I have is how shabbily women and girls are treated by Shariah law.
Not all Muslim countries follow Shariah law.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: I am lizard on August 12, 2014, 03:58:38 pm
We have a F&B for your rants:http://fqa.digibase.ca/index.php?topic=5925.45 (http://fqa.digibase.ca/index.php?topic=5925.45)

I thought Lady Evil brought up several good points.
Uhh, they were only bringing up one point. ???
One point, several points...I don't know myself. I will say the really big problem I have is how shabbily women and girls are treated by Shariah law.
Studies have shown religion and government mix up about as well as a snowball and hot grease
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on August 12, 2014, 05:06:41 pm
We have a F&B for your rants:http://fqa.digibase.ca/index.php?topic=5925.45 (http://fqa.digibase.ca/index.php?topic=5925.45)

I thought Lady Evil brought up several good points.
Uhh, they were only bringing up one point. ???

One point, several points...I don't know myself. I will say the really big problem I have is how shabbily women and girls are treated by Shariah law.

Well that we can agree with.

Though I'm fairly certain the maker of that comic is not a supporter of Sharia law.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on August 12, 2014, 05:17:10 pm
We have a F&B for your rants:http://fqa.digibase.ca/index.php?topic=5925.45 (http://fqa.digibase.ca/index.php?topic=5925.45)

I thought Lady Evil brought up several good points.
Uhh, they were only bringing up one point. ???

One point, several points...I don't know myself. I will say the really big problem I have is how shabbily women and girls are treated by Shariah law.

Well that we can agree with.

Though I'm fairly certain the maker of that comic is not a supporter of Sharia law.
Same.  He/she seems like the "Allah before Dogma" type.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on August 12, 2014, 06:28:33 pm
(http://media.cagle.com/132/2014/08/12/152201_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on August 13, 2014, 07:56:33 am
(http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/810/009/f35.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on August 13, 2014, 11:27:00 pm
(http://media.cagle.com/89/2014/08/13/152267_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on August 14, 2014, 02:36:52 pm
(http://media.cagle.com/139/2014/08/13/152300_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on August 14, 2014, 06:01:03 pm
(http://media.cagle.com/130/2014/08/14/152327_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on August 18, 2014, 01:32:38 pm
(http://media.cagle.com/205/2014/08/15/152392_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on August 19, 2014, 03:15:16 pm
(http://d3dsacqprgcsqh.cloudfront.net/photo/aW00eYq_700b_v1.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on August 19, 2014, 10:00:33 pm
(http://oi61.tinypic.com/20p1tz5.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on August 20, 2014, 08:25:07 am
(http://oi62.tinypic.com/2gxis93.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RavynousHunter on August 20, 2014, 12:50:42 pm
I hate that shit with the burning passion of a million suns.  "Why don't you just cheer up?"  "Why don't you just let me eviscerate you with this butcher knife?"  If you're not here to help, or at least just not be a gigantic prick, then kindly fuck off.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cerim Treascair on August 20, 2014, 11:11:27 pm
I hate that shit with the burning passion of a million suns.  "Why don't you just cheer up?"  "Why don't you just let me eviscerate you with this butcher knife?"  If you're not here to help, or at least just not be a gigantic prick, then kindly fuck off.

Motherfucking seconded.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: R. U. Sirius on August 21, 2014, 12:48:02 am
I hate that shit with the burning passion of a million suns.  "Why don't you just cheer up?"  "Why don't you just let me eviscerate you with this butcher knife?"  If you're not here to help, or at least just not be a gigantic prick, then kindly fuck off.

Motherfucking seconded.

Thirded.

Close corollary is my rage at my own inability to help when someone actually is depressed. An online friend attempted suicide tonight, and I couldn't think of anything to say/do other than throw prevention resources at him. I don't even know where he is, so I couldn't even call 911 on him.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on August 21, 2014, 10:30:10 am
Meanwhile, in Ferguson:

(http://chuckleaduck.com/comics/2014-08-21CAD756GoodCop.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Random Gal on August 21, 2014, 10:41:38 am
He's only the bad cop if the suspect is black.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: I am lizard on August 21, 2014, 02:52:57 pm
He's only the bad cop if the suspect is black.
Or homeless or mentally ill.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cloud3514 on August 21, 2014, 03:26:12 pm
Or a member of the press.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on August 21, 2014, 06:55:09 pm
(http://media.cagle.com/118/2014/08/21/152638_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Sigmaleph on August 21, 2014, 07:41:09 pm
Until I saw the Rick Scott badge, I thought that was meant to be Putin. Very confusing.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cerim Treascair on August 21, 2014, 07:58:45 pm
Until I saw the Rick Scott badge, I thought that was meant to be Putin. Very confusing.

Oh good, it wasn't just me.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on August 22, 2014, 08:49:20 am
(http://media.cagle.com/82/2014/08/21/152642_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on August 22, 2014, 03:52:18 pm
(http://media.cagle.com/205/2014/08/21/152653_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on August 23, 2014, 01:18:50 pm
(http://media.cagle.com/171/2014/08/21/152636_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on August 23, 2014, 07:37:09 pm
(http://media.cagle.com/81/2014/08/19/152542_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: I am lizard on August 23, 2014, 07:48:04 pm
The fact you can see other "rioters" in the background indicates the cartoonist believes the protests in ferguson are actually riots.

Plus I think thus guy is fairly right wing.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on August 23, 2014, 07:56:00 pm
The fact you can see other "rioters" in the background indicates the cartoonist believes the protests in ferguson are actually riots.

Plus I think thus guy is fairly right wing.
There are looters in Ferguson.  Their activities are exaggerated, and they're mistakenly conflated with the protestors, but they do exist.

And there's nothing inherently wrong with being right-wing.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on August 23, 2014, 07:59:59 pm
The fact you can see other "rioters" in the background indicates the cartoonist believes the protests in ferguson are actually riots.

Plus I think thus guy is fairly right wing.
There are looters in Ferguson.  Their activities are exaggerated, and they're mistakenly conflated with the protestors, but they do exist.

And there's nothing inherently wrong with being right-wing.

No one is denying that they exist.  He was stating that they were depicting protestors as looters in the picture.

And I wish I could believe that last sentence.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on August 23, 2014, 08:01:35 pm
The fact you can see other "rioters" in the background indicates the cartoonist believes the protests in ferguson are actually riots.

Plus I think thus guy is fairly right wing.
There are looters in Ferguson.  Their activities are exaggerated, and they're mistakenly conflated with the protestors, but they do exist.

And there's nothing inherently wrong with being right-wing.

No one is denying that they exist.  He was stating that they were depicting protestors as looters in the picture.

And I wish I could believe that last sentence.
All I see are a bunch of looters.  I don't see anybody carrying signs.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: I am lizard on August 23, 2014, 08:06:07 pm
Exactly.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on August 23, 2014, 08:07:41 pm
Exactly.
You missed my point.  And since the protestors have been a good defense against the looters, it makes sense that they'd choose a place where neither they nor the police are nearby.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: I am lizard on August 23, 2014, 08:23:12 pm
Exactly.
You missed my point.  And since the protestors have been a good defense against the looters, it makes sense that they'd choose a place where neither they nor the police are nearby.
That could also mean the author thinks ferguson is non-stop riots the police can't control.

You know what, let's split the difference and just say you're right.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on August 23, 2014, 08:26:40 pm
Exactly.
You missed my point.  And since the protestors have been a good defense against the looters, it makes sense that they'd choose a place where neither they nor the police are nearby.
That could also mean the author thinks ferguson is non-stop riots the police can't control.

You know what, let's split the difference and just say you're right.
Sounds fair.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on August 24, 2014, 10:50:18 am
(http://l1.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/6rDXGtZQtgZYkwCaPZIYDQ--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7Zmk9ZmlsbDtoPTM2NztweW9mZj0wO3E9NzU7dz01MDA-/http://media.zenfs.com/en_us/News/ucomics.com/bor140806.gif)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on August 24, 2014, 07:00:27 pm
(http://media.cagle.com/180/2014/08/22/152681_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ironchew on August 24, 2014, 07:56:01 pm
Not sure if that qualifies as "best" or "cartoon". I could've made that in less than 5 minutes.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on August 25, 2014, 07:53:20 am
Not sure if that qualifies as "best" or "cartoon". I could've made that in less than 5 minutes.
Would you rather have something covered in labels?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on August 25, 2014, 08:35:34 am
Not sure if that qualifies as "best" or "cartoon". I could've made that in less than 5 minutes.
Being able to tell a message with a simple piece of art is a great accomplishment.

Would you rather have something covered in labels?
...And being forced to use labels on every goddamn thing to get their message across is a sign of a very bad political cartoonist. SOMETIMES labels are necessary but usually there are better ways to get the message across.

EDIT:

Bors made a simple joke about how media has a habit of victim blaming young black males in particular when they are killed while white spree shooters are pitied. Then this happened:
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/v/t1.0-9/10629841_449724031833982_3330124520694968243_n.jpg?oh=d25133957f3342b87588240736d3db1d&oe=5463D6D5&__gda__=1416812297_31885f51c3ffe69af224221c4fd9debb)

Comment from the cartoonist: "I attempt to do satire, I really do."

Original: https://medium.com/the-nib/fear-of-a-black-victim-a17595dcd9c4
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on August 26, 2014, 08:20:31 am
(http://media.cagle.com/144/2014/08/25/152781_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on August 26, 2014, 01:32:55 pm
(http://media.cagle.com/118/2014/08/26/152791_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on August 26, 2014, 04:53:21 pm
(http://media.cagle.com/16/2014/08/26/152794_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on August 26, 2014, 08:16:04 pm
(http://media.cagle.com/132/2014/08/26/152822_600.jpg)

Keep in mind, this was their actual reaction.  When Al-Qaeda thinks you're going too far, you know you're awful.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cerim Treascair on August 26, 2014, 09:58:22 pm
As is so often referenced, Even Evil Has Standards.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on August 26, 2014, 10:11:20 pm
I think perhaps one difference between Al Qaeda and ISIS (correct me if I'm wrong about this) is that Al Qaeda views themselves as upholding morality and therefore being on the side of good, even if they're "unpopular".  (As do many terrorists - Al Qaeda is not unique in this regard, nor should we be sympathetic towards them)

ISIS, on the other hand, seems more interested in basically subjugating everyone.  They're less terrorists, and more wannabe tyrants.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RavynousHunter on August 27, 2014, 10:26:39 am
Only Mr. House can do autocracy properly.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: ironbite on August 27, 2014, 12:05:39 pm
And even then he has to rely on an army of robots and a brain damaged mute.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on August 27, 2014, 12:08:54 pm
And even then he has to rely on an army of robots and a brain damaged mute.
I'll have you know that my characters were usually quite eloquent with their speech. Or are you just complaining because the players lines aren't voiced?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RavynousHunter on August 27, 2014, 02:18:00 pm
I dunno...

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Sixth Monarchist on August 28, 2014, 04:47:32 pm
Why yes, I do still need a new laptop. (http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/cartoon/2014/aug/28/david-cameron-steve-bell-donkey-immigration-ukip1)

Also, this Guardian cartoon is almost completely straightforward. Exciting, isn't it?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on August 28, 2014, 11:03:36 pm
(http://media.cagle.com/46/2014/08/27/152877_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on August 29, 2014, 10:16:15 am
Spoiled for size:

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RavynousHunter on August 29, 2014, 02:12:15 pm
Spoiled for size:

(click to show/hide)

Methinks I've seen that before.  But...my brain stopped recognizing things after I finished it.  Everything is now suddenly VERY flammable.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ironchew on August 29, 2014, 02:35:26 pm
Spoiled for size:

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It's too bad that our medical laws depend so heavily on the institution of marriage. Hopefully the laws concerning powers of attorney will change as marriage becomes less popular as a custom.

Quote
If I'm such a good person why didn't they accept my health insurance that would have saved her life?

Because we live in a third-world shithole of a healthcare system where insurance companies can decide who lives and who dies. Any attempts to fix this problem (the simplest of which would be expanding Medicare eligibility to every citizen) are met with cries of "eeeeebil socializum!"

'Murica
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on August 29, 2014, 04:24:47 pm
expanding Medicare eligibility to every citizen

I always find it hilarious that senior citizens, or people on the verge of being senior citizens, scream bloody murder both at the suggestion of single-payer healthcare and at the suggestion of taking away their Medicare coverage.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RavynousHunter on August 29, 2014, 06:19:36 pm
expanding Medicare eligibility to every citizen

I always find it hilarious that senior citizens, or people on the verge of being senior citizens, scream bloody murder both at the suggestion of single-payer healthcare and at the suggestion of taking away their Medicare coverage.


Its okay, I found a homeopathic remedy for Old Asshole Syndrome.  Unfortunately, the FDA won't let me release it to the public...something about arsenic being poisonous.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on August 29, 2014, 07:33:33 pm
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: guizonde on August 29, 2014, 08:43:47 pm
expanding Medicare eligibility to every citizen

I always find it hilarious that senior citizens, or people on the verge of being senior citizens, scream bloody murder both at the suggestion of single-payer healthcare and at the suggestion of taking away their Medicare coverage.


Its okay, I found a homeopathic remedy for Old Asshole Syndrome.  Unfortunately, the FDA won't let me release it to the public...something about arsenic being poisonous.

I'm not sure you did it on purpose, but it's an awesome pun. "Are you an asshole? talk to your doctor about Arsenic to treat your case!" [/commercial break]
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cloud3514 on August 29, 2014, 11:35:10 pm
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This reminds me of one of the things I liked about the V for Vendetta movie:

"Behind this mask is an idea and ideas are bulletproof."
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on August 30, 2014, 07:08:58 am
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on August 31, 2014, 09:34:35 am
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RavynousHunter on August 31, 2014, 11:16:56 am
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Someone found an excerpt from Putin's personal porn stash, I take it.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on August 31, 2014, 12:01:48 pm
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Someone found an excerpt from Putin's personal porn stash, I take it.

It is a joke from what was said to be the most agressive act Canadian military had done since 1812, this: http://www.ctvnews.ca/world/canada-s-nato-delegation-taunts-russia-with-geography-lesson-1.1979904

Russians responded with this: http://www.businessinsider.com/canada-map-of-russia-response-2014-8 A map that has several regions which other countries concider to be theirs labeled as part of Russia...
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on September 01, 2014, 11:21:41 am
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on September 01, 2014, 04:07:34 pm
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on September 01, 2014, 08:11:09 pm
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on September 02, 2014, 07:54:31 am
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on September 02, 2014, 02:56:21 pm
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on September 02, 2014, 09:09:04 pm
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on September 03, 2014, 07:45:14 am
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on September 03, 2014, 10:23:42 pm
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on September 03, 2014, 10:32:15 pm
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There's no denying that Hiroshima and Nagasaki were massive tragedies.  However, it was hardly "terrorism".  It was cruel necessity, and probably saved millions of lives.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Second Coming of Madman on September 03, 2014, 10:40:16 pm
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Cause clearly Japan wouldn't keep fighting unless we brought a rain of ruin from the air down on their asses, no sir. They would just surrender the moment we stepped foot on a Pacific island, yes sir. Face it, if we hadn't pushed the button, the war would have been even more hellish than it was already.

Quit bitching about it. What's next, the apologists come out of the wood work for Nanking's anniversary? How about the death marches of Sandakan and Bataan? Or how about the sheer amount of Japanese casualties because of the doctrine of glorious death? Saipan? Okinawa?

 
 
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on September 03, 2014, 10:42:27 pm
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Cause clearly Japan wouldn't keep fighting unless we brought a rain of ruin from the air down on their asses, no sir. They would just surrender the moment we stepped foot on a Pacific island, yes sir. Face it, if we hadn't pushed the button, the war would have been even more hellish than it was already.

Quit bitching about it. What's next, the apologists come out of the wood work for Nanking's anniversary? How about the death marches of Sandakan and Bataan? Or how about the sheer amount of Japanese casualties because of the doctrine of glorious death? Saipan? Okinawa?

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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: I am lizard on September 03, 2014, 10:56:52 pm
But did we consult the magic conch?
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Sylvana on September 04, 2014, 02:52:01 am
Cause clearly Japan wouldn't keep fighting unless we brought a rain of ruin from the air down on their asses, no sir. They would just surrender the moment we stepped foot on a Pacific island, yes sir. Face it, if we hadn't pushed the button, the war would have been even more hellish than it was already.

Quit bitching about it. What's next, the apologists come out of the wood work for Nanking's anniversary? How about the death marches of Sandakan and Bataan? Or how about the sheer amount of Japanese casualties because of the doctrine of glorious death? Saipan? Okinawa?

I think the point is that while it was probably necessary to end the war, it was still one of the most horrendous things ever done. Did it save more lives by forcing Japan to surrender, probably, but it has a more lasting legacy than just ending the war.

America has both the largest nuclear arsenal in the world, but is also the only nation to have actually used nuclear weapons on a civilian population. It tends to make the way the USA gets their panties in a knot whenever another nation becomes nuclear capable seem a bit hypocritical. This is even more obvious when things like 9/11 are portrayed as the most horrible terrorist attack the world has ever seen, it still pales in comparison to what America did to those cities. It is understandable why the use of nuclear weapons can be seen as terrorist actions, it effectively terrorized Japan into surrender.

Was it the right thing to do with regards to the bigger picture of the war? Probably. However, it most definitely is not something to be proud of. The title of being the only nation to have used nuclear weapons on another is possibly the blackest mark on American history.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: I am lizard on September 04, 2014, 03:12:26 am
Besides either slavery or the genocide of native Americans
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: chad sexington on September 04, 2014, 05:23:23 am
I might be missing the point, but my assumption was that the kid had come to associate big explosions with terrorist attacks, rather than events of war.  Damn kids these days!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on September 04, 2014, 09:20:07 am
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Canadian Mojo on September 04, 2014, 06:55:41 pm
I might be missing the point, but my assumption was that the kid had come to associate big explosions with terrorist attacks, rather than events of war.  Damn kids these days!
That's how I was interpreting it too. A child that age has quite possibly only heard about rogue nations, terrorists trying to get the bomb, and nuclear proliferation and not about the details of WWII.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cataclysm on September 04, 2014, 06:57:33 pm

I think the point is that while it was probably necessary to end the war, it was still one of the most horrendous things ever done. Did it save more lives by forcing Japan to surrender, probably, but it has a more lasting legacy than just ending the war.

No, it wasn't. Japan was willing to negotiate, the Allies only continued the war so they could get unconditional surrender from Japan.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on September 04, 2014, 07:58:19 pm

I think the point is that while it was probably necessary to end the war, it was still one of the most horrendous things ever done. Did it save more lives by forcing Japan to surrender, probably, but it has a more lasting legacy than just ending the war.

No, it wasn't. Japan was willing to negotiate, the Allies only continued the war so they could get unconditional surrender from Japan.

Specifically the US, they wanted to end the war before Russia declared war on Japan. (They missed by a few days.)

A few US advisors counseled offering a conditional surrender, but they were overruled.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Second Coming of Madman on September 04, 2014, 08:28:44 pm

I think the point is that while it was probably necessary to end the war, it was still one of the most horrendous things ever done. Did it save more lives by forcing Japan to surrender, probably, but it has a more lasting legacy than just ending the war.

No, it wasn't. Japan was willing to negotiate, the Allies only continued the war so they could get unconditional surrender from Japan.

Bullshit. The Japanese wanted to keep Korea and Formosa, states they had conquered. 
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on September 05, 2014, 01:04:55 am

I think the point is that while it was probably necessary to end the war, it was still one of the most horrendous things ever done. Did it save more lives by forcing Japan to surrender, probably, but it has a more lasting legacy than just ending the war.

No, it wasn't. Japan was willing to negotiate, the Allies only continued the war so they could get unconditional surrender from Japan.

Bullshit. The Japanese wanted to keep Korea and Formosa, states they had conquered. 
So what you are saying is, the Japan was willing to negotiate but the Allies nuked them so that they could get an unconditional surrender instead?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on September 05, 2014, 03:44:43 pm
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on September 05, 2014, 03:56:51 pm
Oh gross.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on September 05, 2014, 07:24:30 pm
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on September 05, 2014, 09:02:18 pm
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: lord gibbon on September 05, 2014, 10:14:38 pm
Personally, I've never bought the Soviet Union comparison. Putin wants to go further back. He wants to be czar.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Second Coming of Madman on September 05, 2014, 10:51:49 pm

I think the point is that while it was probably necessary to end the war, it was still one of the most horrendous things ever done. Did it save more lives by forcing Japan to surrender, probably, but it has a more lasting legacy than just ending the war.

No, it wasn't. Japan was willing to negotiate, the Allies only continued the war so they could get unconditional surrender from Japan.

Bullshit. The Japanese wanted to keep Korea and Formosa, states they had conquered. 
So what you are saying is, the Japan was willing to negotiate but the Allies nuked them so that they could get an unconditional surrender instead?

Conditions as laid, Japan kept it's conquered nations. This would be a violation of the Four Freedoms, in particular "Freedom from fear". Would you let Austria continue to be in the hands of Germany?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on September 05, 2014, 11:16:51 pm

I think the point is that while it was probably necessary to end the war, it was still one of the most horrendous things ever done. Did it save more lives by forcing Japan to surrender, probably, but it has a more lasting legacy than just ending the war.

No, it wasn't. Japan was willing to negotiate, the Allies only continued the war so they could get unconditional surrender from Japan.

Bullshit. The Japanese wanted to keep Korea and Formosa, states they had conquered. 
So what you are saying is, the Japan was willing to negotiate but the Allies nuked them so that they could get an unconditional surrender instead?

Conditions as laid, Japan kept it's conquered nations. This would be a violation of the Four Freedoms, in particular "Freedom from fear". Would you let Austria continue to be in the hands of Germany?

NEGOTIATION:

Quote
: a formal discussion between people who are trying to reach an agreement : an act of negotiating

Synonyms
    accommodation, compromise, give-and-take, concession

They could have started by saying that they want USA for themselves but they could have agreed to much, much less in the end. We will never know.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on September 06, 2014, 08:49:42 am
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Nemo on September 06, 2014, 10:11:39 am
Never heard the term "truscum" before. I take it that's a way of referring to transpeople in general? And that the blue haired person is a radfem?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RavynousHunter on September 06, 2014, 10:23:29 am
"Truscum" is a way of referring to transpeople who tend to not look favourably on those who claim to be trans while not experiencing any dysphoria, one of the hallmark symptoms.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Canadian Mojo on September 06, 2014, 03:28:35 pm

I think the point is that while it was probably necessary to end the war, it was still one of the most horrendous things ever done. Did it save more lives by forcing Japan to surrender, probably, but it has a more lasting legacy than just ending the war.

No, it wasn't. Japan was willing to negotiate, the Allies only continued the war so they could get unconditional surrender from Japan.

Bullshit. The Japanese wanted to keep Korea and Formosa, states they had conquered. 
So what you are saying is, the Japan was willing to negotiate but the Allies nuked them so that they could get an unconditional surrender instead?

Conditions as laid, Japan kept it's conquered nations. This would be a violation of the Four Freedoms, in particular "Freedom from fear". Would you let Austria continue to be in the hands of Germany?

After seeing how well the treaty of Versailles worked out why would you let your opponents have anything when you had the opportunity to neutralize the threat permanently for a fairly small cost. (and in case you're wondering, this is why the bean counter is the most dangerous person in the army)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: chad sexington on September 06, 2014, 11:26:55 pm
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Oh gross.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on September 07, 2014, 12:37:46 am
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on September 07, 2014, 01:06:25 pm
Vaguely political.
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: I am lizard on September 07, 2014, 06:09:30 pm
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I've heard that the majority of gamers are female actually.
And yeah, saying gamers are made up mostly of Douchebags would be wrong, gamers are mainly decent people it's just the ones who are douchebags are so loud it ruins the experience for non-douchebags.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on September 07, 2014, 06:16:37 pm
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I've heard that the majority of gamers are female actually.
And yeah, saying gamers are made up mostly of Douchebags would be wrong, gamers are mainly decent people it's just the ones who are douchebags are so loud it ruins the experience for non-douchebags.
I'd say that's true for a lot of groups.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on September 08, 2014, 11:50:05 am
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on September 09, 2014, 02:59:42 pm
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: I am lizard on September 09, 2014, 03:03:51 pm
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Putin can easily skate around western propaganda.
A glorious state-approved cartoon.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on September 09, 2014, 03:05:45 pm
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Putin can easily skate around western propaganda.
A glorious state-approved cartoon.

Pretty good.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: chad sexington on September 10, 2014, 08:50:54 am
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I've heard that the majority of gamers are female actually.
And yeah, saying gamers are made up mostly of Douchebags would be wrong, gamers are mainly decent people it's just the ones who are douchebags are so loud it ruins the experience for non-douchebags.

Isn't that kind of the point?  I mean, it's a literal white knight issuing a blanket condemnation onto a diverse group.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on September 10, 2014, 08:54:49 am
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I've heard that the majority of gamers are female actually.
And yeah, saying gamers are made up mostly of Douchebags would be wrong, gamers are mainly decent people it's just the ones who are douchebags are so loud it ruins the experience for non-douchebags.

Isn't that kind of the point?  I mean, it's a literal white knight issuing a blanket condemnation onto a diverse group.
You just hit the nail on the head.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on September 10, 2014, 11:21:01 am
Political, religious, whatever this is a good one from Cyanide and happiness:

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Boo YAH!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on September 10, 2014, 04:55:02 pm
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: I am lizard on September 10, 2014, 07:40:39 pm
I get this's about Gamergate but this is really bizarre.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on September 10, 2014, 08:13:14 pm
I'm just gonna go to sleep until this particular shitstorm passes.

It's so boring that I can't even keep track of everything.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Zygarde on September 10, 2014, 09:15:27 pm
I didn't even know there was a shitstorm I was not paying attention to it.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Second Coming of Madman on September 10, 2014, 09:23:10 pm
I didn't even know there was a shitstorm I was not paying attention to it.

I've stopped giving a shit, so I'm with you there.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on September 11, 2014, 08:58:28 am
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on September 12, 2014, 12:26:20 pm
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on September 12, 2014, 08:18:04 pm
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: I am lizard on September 12, 2014, 08:58:21 pm
I liked the part about dropping Ray Rice out of an airplane.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on September 13, 2014, 01:50:23 pm
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on September 13, 2014, 08:47:48 pm
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on September 14, 2014, 11:18:45 pm
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on September 15, 2014, 08:44:54 pm
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on September 16, 2014, 08:19:40 pm
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on September 17, 2014, 11:50:00 am
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on September 18, 2014, 08:14:28 am
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on September 20, 2014, 05:39:15 pm
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on September 20, 2014, 05:41:45 pm
Ew.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: lord gibbon on September 20, 2014, 05:49:48 pm
What does that mean, exactly?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on September 21, 2014, 08:07:10 pm
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on September 22, 2014, 11:33:41 am
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: I am lizard on September 22, 2014, 11:53:14 am
Oh god, UP's doing it again.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ironchew on September 22, 2014, 12:29:10 pm
There should be a "Butthurt Political Cartoons" section for this failed referendum.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on September 22, 2014, 12:31:47 pm
There should be a "Butthurt Political Cartoons" section for this failed referendum.

I'll do you one better and make a "gallery of butthurt".
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on September 22, 2014, 01:50:32 pm
Oh god, UP's doing it again.
Doing what?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on September 22, 2014, 02:23:40 pm
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on September 23, 2014, 10:38:09 am
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: I am lizard on September 23, 2014, 11:06:06 am
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Really?
From what I can tell every time a celeb has nudes leaked (particularly a female celeb) it's the celeb who gets blamed.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on September 23, 2014, 11:15:15 am
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Really?
From what I can tell every time a celeb has nudes leaked (particularly a female celeb) it's the celeb who gets blamed.

Well, it depends on what media you watch.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: I am lizard on September 23, 2014, 02:33:48 pm
Well, a news source that reports on a celebs birth marks is probably going to victim blame.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on September 23, 2014, 02:55:57 pm
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on September 23, 2014, 09:46:38 pm
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(http://img-9gag-lol.9cache.com/photo/apoQd4E_700b.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on September 24, 2014, 09:06:36 am
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on September 25, 2014, 12:16:23 pm
It's old, but it seems more relevant than ever these days.

(http://www.sandraandwoo.com/images/misc/bloom-county-offensensitivity.png)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: I am lizard on September 25, 2014, 01:39:14 pm
Tbf, stereotypes are definitely offensive and nudes can definitely be offensive (Most likely she would be referring to nudes she meant needlessly sexulized women).
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on September 25, 2014, 02:59:30 pm
https://medium.com/the-nib/the-beatings-never-really-end-de4a0c24826e
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on September 25, 2014, 05:00:43 pm
https://medium.com/the-nib/the-beatings-never-really-end-de4a0c24826e

404 error
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Sigmaleph on September 25, 2014, 05:27:42 pm
Works for me. Odd.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on September 25, 2014, 05:53:19 pm
And now it's working for me, despite the fact that all I did was click on the link again.  Weird.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: chad sexington on September 25, 2014, 09:36:20 pm
Wow, that's heavy :(
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on September 26, 2014, 05:18:08 pm
Wow, that's heavy :(

I'll say.   :'(
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on September 27, 2014, 03:56:35 pm
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on September 27, 2014, 08:52:54 pm
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Proof the wingnuts are desperate because there's nothing they can pin on him. Weird people.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Nemo on September 28, 2014, 12:38:16 am
Which is weird. Anyone remember "Bush Derangement Syndrome"? Who was pushing that meme, Rush Limbaugh? The idea was that liberals hated President Bush so much that they lost all semblance of sanity. What, then, to make of Tansuitgate or Mustardgate?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: I am lizard on September 28, 2014, 01:05:56 am
You know who else saluted with coffee in there hand? Hitler.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on September 28, 2014, 01:45:54 am
Which is weird. Anyone remember "Bush Derangement Syndrome"? Who was pushing that meme, Rush Limbaugh? The idea was that liberals hated President Bush so much that they lost all semblance of sanity. What, then, to make of Tansuitgate or Mustardgate?

Suddenly, A Wild Honest Neocon Appeared!

Honest Neocon uses Bout of Honesty! "Yeah, but Bush was white and Obama's black, so we're not crazy for hating him."

Bout of Honesty causes Sane Liberal to laugh! Laughter damages Honest Neocon!

Honest Neocon faints!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on September 28, 2014, 08:45:54 am
Which is weird. Anyone remember "Bush Derangement Syndrome"? Who was pushing that meme, Rush Limbaugh? The idea was that liberals hated President Bush so much that they lost all semblance of sanity. What, then, to make of Tansuitgate or Mustardgate?

Suddenly, A Wild Honest Neocon Appeared!

Honest Neocon uses Bout of Honesty! "Yeah, but Bush was white and Obama's black, so we're not crazy for hating him."

Bout of Honesty causes Sane Liberal to laugh! Laughter damages Honest Neocon!

Honest Neocon faints!
I'd say it has more to do with politics than race.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Nemo on September 28, 2014, 09:46:09 am
Which is weird. Anyone remember "Bush Derangement Syndrome"? Who was pushing that meme, Rush Limbaugh? The idea was that liberals hated President Bush so much that they lost all semblance of sanity. What, then, to make of Tansuitgate or Mustardgate?

Suddenly, A Wild Honest Neocon Appeared!

Honest Neocon uses Bout of Honesty! "Yeah, but Bush was white and Obama's black, so we're not crazy for hating him."

Bout of Honesty causes Sane Liberal to laugh! Laughter damages Honest Neocon!

Honest Neocon faints!
I'd say it has more to do with politics than race.
I prefer to avoid playing the race card myself. Sure, there are plenty of Tea Partiers who are racists. But until they out themselves, I'd rather talk about their actual talking points they are using.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on September 28, 2014, 10:41:00 am
(http://oi61.tinypic.com/2z8umvk.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on September 28, 2014, 02:14:48 pm
Which is weird. Anyone remember "Bush Derangement Syndrome"? Who was pushing that meme, Rush Limbaugh? The idea was that liberals hated President Bush so much that they lost all semblance of sanity. What, then, to make of Tansuitgate or Mustardgate?

Suddenly, A Wild Honest Neocon Appeared!

Honest Neocon uses Bout of Honesty! "Yeah, but Bush was white and Obama's black, so we're not crazy for hating him."

Bout of Honesty causes Sane Liberal to laugh! Laughter damages Honest Neocon!

Honest Neocon faints!
I'd say it has more to do with politics than race.
I prefer to avoid playing the race card myself. Sure, there are plenty of Tea Partiers who are racists. But until they out themselves, I'd rather talk about their actual talking points they are using.

This neocon is being honest and Obama's pretty damn far right.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on September 28, 2014, 04:30:36 pm
(http://media.cagle.com/107/2014/09/26/154225_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on September 28, 2014, 11:39:08 pm
(http://img-9gag-lol.9cache.com/photo/a8boML6_700b.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: lord gibbon on September 29, 2014, 12:44:50 am
Notice how Eisenhower, a REBUBLICAN, had a higher rate than Johnson, a democrat. If the modern republican party took after Eisenhower... Well, I'd still oppose them, but at least I'd have respect for them.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: KZN02 on September 29, 2014, 01:11:30 am
(http://media.cagle.com/95/2014/09/26/154231_600.jpg)

Proof the wingnuts are desperate because there's nothing they can pin on him. Weird people.
Actually, it's more that they're desperate to find something other than the things Obama has done that they agree with.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on September 29, 2014, 01:44:35 am
Notice how Eisenhower, a REBUBLICAN, had a higher rate than Johnson, a democrat. If the modern republican party took after Eisenhower... Well, I'd still oppose them, but at least I'd have respect for them.

Eisenhower is why I laugh about the Republican Party pushing the 22nd Amendment. It didn't affect Truman--he didn't run in 1952 because he lost the New Hampshire primary to Estes Kefauver (though he claimed that he'd already decided not to seek the nomination anyway)--but it did affect Eisenhower, who was a popular moderate, and made them run Nixon in 1960 instead.

(1960 was also the first televised debate, and the results were striking: people watching on TV generally said Kennedy won, while people listening on radio said Nixon won.)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: R. U. Sirius on September 29, 2014, 10:04:21 am
(http://img-9gag-lol.9cache.com/photo/a8boML6_700b.jpg)

Where's Carter in the scheme of things?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ironchew on September 29, 2014, 10:22:40 am
(http://www.smbc-comics.com/comics/20140928.png) (http://www.smbc-comics.com/?id=3496#comic)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on September 30, 2014, 09:57:12 am
(http://media.cagle.com/77/2014/09/29/154329_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Random Gal on October 01, 2014, 10:17:48 am
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk95/celticlullaby/antichristian_zps57cee98c.gif)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on October 03, 2014, 11:47:20 am
(http://media.cagle.com/136/2014/10/02/154467_600.jpg)

This is why I can't stand voter apathy.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Sigmaleph on October 03, 2014, 12:06:43 pm
If you look at it the other way around, voter apathy is a sign of a secure democracy. People don't struggle for the right to choose their leaders when they are confident that they already have that right.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on October 03, 2014, 03:09:36 pm
If you look at it the other way around, voter apathy is a sign of a secure democracy. People don't struggle for the right to choose their leaders when they are confident that they already have that right.
Or that they have simply lost faith in democracy.

In Finland elders complain that the youth aren't voting. The problem is that the only candidates that pass elections are almost entirely 30+ years old. The youth tried to get their voice heard and when they failed repeatedly they lost the motivation.

This is affected by the way the vote count works in Finland. The person who gets the most votes in party X is counted as having gotten all their votes, the second has 50% and so on. This means that the few "veterans" who consistently get votes (and more importantly, get votes from OUR numerous baby boomer generation) are the most likely to pass and the rookies are only "sacrificial lambs" who get votes for the party but will not be able to win.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on October 03, 2014, 03:20:54 pm
If you look at it the other way around, voter apathy is a sign of a secure democracy. People don't struggle for the right to choose their leaders when they are confident that they already have that right.
Or that they have simply lost faith in democracy.

In Finland elders complain that the youth aren't voting. The problem is that the only candidates that pass elections are almost entirely 30+ years old. The youth tried to get their voice heard and when they failed repeatedly they lost the motivation.

This is affected by the way the vote count works in Finland. The person who gets the most votes in party X is counted as having gotten all their votes, the second has 50% and so on. This means that the few "veterans" who consistently get votes (and more importantly, get votes from OUR numerous baby boomer generation) are the most likely to pass and the rookies are only "sacrificial lambs" who get votes for the party but will not be able to win.

/looks up Finnish electoral system

That's an... interesting system.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on October 03, 2014, 03:36:50 pm
It has some benefits.

The main idea is that you vote for the party you want and since the parties have an official line on what they wish to accomplish and what they support/oppose no matter who you pick they will mostly vote on those. Since we have several parties you can go through those and pick the one that suits you most. There are few parties that don't do that like the green party where you might vote for a peaceful hippie and get the one christian-fundie (who opposes gay marriage in otherwise pro-gay party) in the party.

The obvious problem is that this makes it hard for new/young politicians unless they are some kind of celebreties.

The other problem is that most of the parties are pretty close to each other politically and in most major issues because everyone had been playing "safe" for the last decades. Things did get shaken up a bit a few years ago. For example Kokoomus is doing their best to emulate the Republicans in USA. Privatise everything, demolish the healthcare system and lower taxes for the rich seem to be their goals. (Suprisingly whenever we do badly economically they get voted in for the same reasons why USA votes Republicans and then they proceed to fuck things up and make everything even worse. Not that their voters would see it this way. They think the "big goverment" is to blame for everything.)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Alehksunos on October 03, 2014, 03:50:12 pm
(http://media.cagle.com/136/2014/10/02/154467_600.jpg)

This is why I can't stand voter apathy.

Fuck this country [the United States].
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Eiki-mun on October 03, 2014, 04:32:48 pm
It's hard to get excited about voting when your choice doesn't really matter because of the state you live in. What's the point of a Democrat in Idaho even trying?

Or, hell, since I'll be moving soon, a Democrat in California.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Alehksunos on October 03, 2014, 07:02:15 pm
It's even harder when you live in a state where an undesirable party has been dominant for years, especially when members of said party are extremists.

Like just yesterday, weeks after being proven unconstitutional, House Bill 2 has been reinstated and it's even more brutal now. I'm going to be so fucking pissed if that doesn't motivate enough people to vote against the incumbent party responsible for all this, and way more than half - not even three quarters - of the home state has been against this.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on October 03, 2014, 10:19:56 pm
(http://media.cagle.com/142/2014/10/03/154507_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on October 04, 2014, 10:44:56 am
(http://media.cagle.com/89/2014/10/03/154504_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on October 04, 2014, 02:18:11 pm
(http://media.cagle.com/178/2014/10/02/154458_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Veras on October 04, 2014, 04:09:52 pm
(http://media.cagle.com/178/2014/10/02/154458_600.jpg)

Note the subtle dig at Michelle Obama's weight.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on October 04, 2014, 05:20:26 pm
(http://media.cagle.com/20/2014/10/03/154499_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on October 04, 2014, 06:32:56 pm
Note the subtle dig at Michelle Obama's weight.

...Mind pointing it out?  'Cause I'm not really seeing it.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ghoti on October 04, 2014, 06:52:43 pm
Note the subtle dig at Michelle Obama's weight.

...Mind pointing it out?  'Cause I'm not really seeing it.
It's the empty ice cream sundae cup on her nightstand, I'm assuming.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Veras on October 04, 2014, 06:54:26 pm
Note the subtle dig at Michelle Obama's weight.

...Mind pointing it out?  'Cause I'm not really seeing it.
It's the empty ice cream sundae cup on her nightstand, I'm assuming.

That's it
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on October 04, 2014, 08:20:38 pm
I thought that might've been what you were talking about...

if that's the artist I'm thinking of, that might be true.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on October 05, 2014, 11:50:09 am
(http://media.cagle.com/34/2014/09/29/154339_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on October 06, 2014, 08:40:16 pm
(http://media.cagle.com/77/2014/10/05/154547_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Art Vandelay on October 06, 2014, 09:09:17 pm
So then what the everloving fuck is War doing on horseback?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: I am lizard on October 06, 2014, 09:28:25 pm
Note the subtle dig at Michelle Obama's weight.

...Mind pointing it out?  'Cause I'm not really seeing it.
It's the empty ice cream sundae cup on her nightstand, I'm assuming.

That's it
Also, that perspective is horrendous, are they sleeping standing up?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on October 06, 2014, 09:31:24 pm
So then what the everloving fuck is War doing on horseback?

He's nostalgic for the "good old days".
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Sylvana on October 07, 2014, 05:07:17 am
So then what the everloving fuck is War doing on horseback?

Its kind of hard to balance on drone.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on October 07, 2014, 11:35:52 am
(http://img-9gag-lol.9cache.com/photo/ax277MY_700b_v1.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on October 07, 2014, 12:54:02 pm
So then what the everloving fuck is War doing on horseback?

Its kind of hard to balance on drone.
The bigger drones are the size of a fighter plane. And armed similarly.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on October 07, 2014, 05:43:55 pm
(http://media.cagle.com/143/2014/10/07/154596_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Eiki-mun on October 07, 2014, 05:48:14 pm
(http://img-9gag-lol.9cache.com/photo/ax277MY_700b_v1.jpg)

Technically, that's not Democracy, that's Republic.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on October 07, 2014, 05:52:42 pm
Right.

A snarky description of democracy would be

"Thousands of dictators united in their agenda, subjugating the minority that isn't."
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Eiki-mun on October 07, 2014, 05:56:54 pm
"Democracy is the only system of government where the majority of the population get to be the dictators, rather than the dictated. This is why it is considered the best form of government."

-Me, just now, to myself
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on October 07, 2014, 10:29:35 pm
(http://img-9gag-lol.9cache.com/photo/ax277MY_700b_v1.jpg)

Technically, that's not Democracy, that's Republic.

In a Westminster system, the Prime Minister of a majority government--provided he can suppress backbench revolts--is basically a dictator.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: I am lizard on October 07, 2014, 10:34:21 pm
"Democracy is the only system of government where the majority of the population get to be the dictators, rather than the dictated. This is why it is considered the best form of government."

-Me, just now, to myself
From an actual quote maker:
Quote
"Democracy is the worst form of government, except for all those other forms that have been tried from time to time."
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on October 08, 2014, 12:33:38 pm
(http://oi58.tinypic.com/qyfxug.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on October 09, 2014, 07:15:41 pm
(http://oi60.tinypic.com/16lhcw4.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RavynousHunter on October 10, 2014, 07:56:19 am
I'd say black cartoon dude missed the point by about half a kilometer.  It'd be better to just move the hell on and let the word lose all offensiveness like humbug did a few generations back.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Eiki-mun on October 10, 2014, 08:00:51 am
...Humbug was offensive?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lt. Fred on October 11, 2014, 02:00:44 am
(http://oi60.tinypic.com/16lhcw4.jpg)

It isn't a good point, it's a stupid point. Derogatory racial terms have power only when used by someone they don't denigrate, obviously.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RavynousHunter on October 11, 2014, 08:38:52 am
...Humbug was offensive?

"Humbug" was on roughly the same level then as "bullshit" is now.  Honestly it was likely a bit more offensive considering that, the further back in history you go, the more and more strict social rules get.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on October 11, 2014, 08:41:57 am
...Humbug was offensive?

"Humbug" was on roughly the same level then as "bullshit" is now.  Honestly it was likely a bit more offensive considering that, the further back in history you go, the more and more strict social rules get.

Not quite.  It depends on the era you're talking about.

(http://oi60.tinypic.com/16lhcw4.jpg)

It isn't a good point, it's a stupid point. Derogatory racial terms have power only when used by someone they don't denigrate, obviously.

I know, but I put it here more for the overall message: that there's no reason for a white person to say the n-word unless they're a racist douche.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RavynousHunter on October 11, 2014, 08:44:03 am
(http://oi60.tinypic.com/16lhcw4.jpg)

It isn't a good point, it's a stupid point. Derogatory racial terms have power only when used by someone they don't denigrate, obviously.

I know, but I put it here more for the overall message: that there's no reason for a white person to say the n-word unless they're a racist douche.

And the Black and White Thinking Award for 2014 goes to Ultimate Paragon for this post!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lt. Fred on October 11, 2014, 10:01:32 pm
(http://oi60.tinypic.com/16lhcw4.jpg)

It isn't a good point, it's a stupid point. Derogatory racial terms have power only when used by someone they don't denigrate, obviously.

I know, but I put it here more for the overall message: that there's no reason for a white person to say the n-word unless they're a racist douche.

What? That isn't what it was saying at all!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Sigmaleph on October 12, 2014, 12:29:59 am
OK, wait. I think there are two different ways to read the last line in the comic which are leading to disagreement. The way I interpreted it at first, "why do you need to say it?" means "why would you even need to use the word at all?". Presumably this is what UP saw when he posted it.

The other way to read it, "it" means "the point". I.e. "Why do are you making that point out loud?". I'm guessing this is how Fred read it.

Either of you correct me if I'm wrong.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RavynousHunter on October 12, 2014, 07:50:55 am
The first point, while valid in many circumstances, ignores the fact that the word can be used, in the right context, in a non-offensive manner.  For example, we could be talking about pre-Civil Rights Movement America, and how white men didn't want their daughters dating a "dirty nigger."  Does that word, specifically, need to be used?  No, but it can be use to highlight the deep-seeded racism of certain eras, people, and ideas.  It may not be the best idea, but it works, and to be offended by it, in that context, typically means that you really haven't been paying attention at all to what the other person has been saying.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Svata on October 12, 2014, 06:32:29 pm
When it comes to bigotry/bigots, I'm of the Mel Brooks school of thought.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cloud3514 on October 12, 2014, 07:04:58 pm
I remember I once actually used the word in a college paper. Granted, it was analysis of a play where a character would use it to refer to members of his family (wish I could remember the title. It was about a former slave family and the piano they somehow got from their former owners), so it was in the context of analyzing the character, not in any offensive context.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lt. Fred on October 12, 2014, 10:33:24 pm
OK, wait. I think there are two different ways to read the last line in the comic which are leading to disagreement. The way I interpreted it at first, "why do you need to say it?" means "why would you even need to use the word at all?". Presumably this is what UP saw when he posted it.

The other way to read it, "it" means "the point". I.e. "Why do are you making that point out loud?". I'm guessing this is how Fred read it.

Either of you correct me if I'm wrong.

You're quite right.

It's an interesting case of seeing things the way we want to, actually.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on October 13, 2014, 10:38:40 pm
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on October 14, 2014, 09:52:17 pm
(http://media.cagle.com/35/2014/10/14/154882_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: I am lizard on October 14, 2014, 10:18:16 pm
(http://media.cagle.com/35/2014/10/14/154882_600.jpg)
*spooky
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on October 14, 2014, 10:40:50 pm
*spoopy
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on October 14, 2014, 11:54:31 pm
(http://oi61.tinypic.com/25hoe49.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on October 15, 2014, 12:18:27 am
Precisely!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on October 15, 2014, 11:58:53 am
(http://oi60.tinypic.com/ve9950.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: I am lizard on October 15, 2014, 02:20:18 pm
(http://oi61.tinypic.com/25hoe49.jpg)
Plot twist: She's reading a copy of Ebola and ISIS.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on October 16, 2014, 09:11:43 pm
(http://media.cagle.com/139/2014/10/16/155000_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Svata on October 16, 2014, 10:35:05 pm
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So much. I was talking with some people in the program I'm in who mentioned about ebola, and I told them not worry, as it is only contagious for a very short time before symptoms show, as long as you don't fuck someone who's bleeding from their eyes or play around in puddles of blood, you should probably be fine. And they started freaking out, and one even said they thought it could be airborne because of some nurses who were taking care of the guy who had itgetting it, to which I responded, yeah, they're around him all the time, its way more easy for them to get it than someone else.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Nemo on October 17, 2014, 12:54:27 am
I explained the same thing to my supervisor at work. Although, I threw in the caveat that I'd look it up during break just because I kept hearing about new cases in the United States despite having been previously certain ebola wouldn't be an issue here. When I did look it up, I explained that the new cases were all nurses who had been around someone at the time when they'd been vomiting heavily, and that prior to being admitted, said patient had been around dozens of people who did not catch the virus. I think that calmed her down.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Sylvana on October 17, 2014, 04:05:50 am
When I did look it up, I explained that the new cases were all nurses who had been around someone at the time when they'd been vomiting heavily, and that prior to being admitted, said patient had been around dozens of people who did not catch the virus.

They probably caught it when they were cleaning the vomit up and didn't know it was contagious. I feel for medical staff. Their job is really quite risky given how easily some things can be spread. Not to mention that accidents happen. Still it seems like its well contained in America.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on October 17, 2014, 07:48:26 pm
Meanwhile, in North Korea:

(http://media.cagle.com/83/2014/10/17/155041_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Hoplite on October 18, 2014, 08:11:34 pm
Some Fear Ebola Outbreak Could Make Nation Turn to Science

http://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/fear-ebola-outbreak-make-nation-turn-science
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: niam2023 on October 18, 2014, 10:29:39 pm
(http://media.cagle.com/139/2014/10/16/155000_600.jpg)


So much. I was talking with some people in the program I'm in who mentioned about ebola, and I told them not worry, as it is only contagious for a very short time before symptoms show, as long as you don't fuck someone who's bleeding from their eyes or play around in puddles of blood, you should probably be fine. And they started freaking out, and one even said they thought it could be airborne because of some nurses who were taking care of the guy who had itgetting it, to which I responded, yeah, they're around him all the time, its way more easy for them to get it than someone else.

So pretty much don't act like the protagonists of Eli Roth's Cabin Fever movies. Got it.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: I am lizard on October 18, 2014, 10:58:02 pm
(http://media.cagle.com/139/2014/10/16/155000_600.jpg)


So much. I was talking with some people in the program I'm in who mentioned about ebola, and I told them not worry, as it is only contagious for a very short time before symptoms show, as long as you don't fuck someone who's bleeding from their eyes or play around in puddles of blood, you should probably be fine. And they started freaking out, and one even said they thought it could be airborne because of some nurses who were taking care of the guy who had itgetting it, to which I responded, yeah, they're around him all the time, its way more easy for them to get it than someone else.

So pretty much don't act like the protagonists of Eli Roth's Cabin Fever movies. Got it.
Don't act like that ever, really.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Hoplite on October 19, 2014, 08:46:23 am
If you look at it the other way around, voter apathy is a sign of a secure democracy. People don't struggle for the right to choose their leaders when they are confident that they already have that right.
Or that they have simply lost faith in democracy.

In Finland elders complain that the youth aren't voting. The problem is that the only candidates that pass elections are almost entirely 30+ years old. The youth tried to get their voice heard and when they failed repeatedly they lost the motivation.

This is affected by the way the vote count works in Finland. The person who gets the most votes in party X is counted as having gotten all their votes, the second has 50% and so on. This means that the few "veterans" who consistently get votes (and more importantly, get votes from OUR numerous baby boomer generation) are the most likely to pass and the rookies are only "sacrificial lambs" who get votes for the party but will not be able to win.

One hopes that this is not the end result:

(http://assets.amuniversal.com/30835a602a330132a1a4005056a9545d)

Here, voter apathy usually results in extreme rightwing candidates winning elections, as they are more dedicated voters. We truly do get the government we deserve, then, in a sense, even if it is not the government we want.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on October 19, 2014, 02:12:19 pm
Hence, GET OUT THE VOTE!

We need to encourage our fellow Progressives to vote.

Here's some resources:
http://www.rockthevote.com/
http://registertovote.org/index.html
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bill-folman/10-reasons-you-must-vote_b_774777.html

Also, The Dems aren't perfect and candidates may come off as fuddy-duddies (like the situation in Finland). But I say, progress is often slow and we should quit waiting for the ideal. The longer you wait, the ideal wont come. Go with who's available, the "least of the evils". If a Lefty isn't available, go for the most moderate & sane person.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: starseeker on October 19, 2014, 05:55:58 pm
Hence, GET OUT THE VOTE!

We need to encourage our fellow Progressives to vote.

Here's some resources:
http://www.rockthevote.com/
http://registertovote.org/index.html
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bill-folman/10-reasons-you-must-vote_b_774777.html

Also, The Dems aren't perfect and candidates may come off as fuddy-duddies (like the situation in Finland). But I say, progress is often slow and we should quit waiting for the ideal. The longer you wait, the ideal wont come. Go with who's available, the "least of the evils". If a Lefty isn't available, go for the most moderate & sane person.

And what should we do if the first-past-the-post system makes your vote worthless, in my area the tories have 60% of the vote.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on October 19, 2014, 05:59:03 pm
Hence, GET OUT THE VOTE!

We need to encourage our fellow Progressives to vote.

Here's some resources:
http://www.rockthevote.com/
http://registertovote.org/index.html
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bill-folman/10-reasons-you-must-vote_b_774777.html

Also, The Dems aren't perfect and candidates may come off as fuddy-duddies (like the situation in Finland). But I say, progress is often slow and we should quit waiting for the ideal. The longer you wait, the ideal wont come. Go with who's available, the "least of the evils". If a Lefty isn't available, go for the most moderate & sane person.

And what should we do if the first-past-the-post system makes your vote worthless, in my area the tories have 60% of the vote.

Vote anyway so they only get 59.99% of the vote.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: starseeker on October 19, 2014, 06:06:58 pm
Hence, GET OUT THE VOTE!

We need to encourage our fellow Progressives to vote.

Here's some resources:
http://www.rockthevote.com/
http://registertovote.org/index.html
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bill-folman/10-reasons-you-must-vote_b_774777.html

Also, The Dems aren't perfect and candidates may come off as fuddy-duddies (like the situation in Finland). But I say, progress is often slow and we should quit waiting for the ideal. The longer you wait, the ideal wont come. Go with who's available, the "least of the evils". If a Lefty isn't available, go for the most moderate & sane person.

And what should we do if the first-past-the-post system makes your vote worthless, in my area the tories have 60% of the vote.

Vote anyway so they only get 59.99% of the vote.

And what if I disagree with the other 4 parties? Lib Dems are traitors, Labour are Tory light, Greens are nutters who are against nuclear power, and UKIP are freaking UKIP.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on October 19, 2014, 06:15:15 pm
Hence, GET OUT THE VOTE!

We need to encourage our fellow Progressives to vote.

Here's some resources:
http://www.rockthevote.com/
http://registertovote.org/index.html
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bill-folman/10-reasons-you-must-vote_b_774777.html

Also, The Dems aren't perfect and candidates may come off as fuddy-duddies (like the situation in Finland). But I say, progress is often slow and we should quit waiting for the ideal. The longer you wait, the ideal wont come. Go with who's available, the "least of the evils". If a Lefty isn't available, go for the most moderate & sane person.

And what should we do if the first-past-the-post system makes your vote worthless, in my area the tories have 60% of the vote.

Vote anyway so they only get 59.99% of the vote.

And what if I disagree with the other 4 parties? Lib Dems are traitors, Labour are Tory light, Greens are nutters who are against nuclear power, and UKIP are freaking UKIP.

Mark your ballot for two candidates, leave it blank, just make sure it gets in the box.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: starseeker on October 20, 2014, 01:50:09 pm
Hence, GET OUT THE VOTE!

We need to encourage our fellow Progressives to vote.

Here's some resources:
http://www.rockthevote.com/
http://registertovote.org/index.html
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bill-folman/10-reasons-you-must-vote_b_774777.html

Also, The Dems aren't perfect and candidates may come off as fuddy-duddies (like the situation in Finland). But I say, progress is often slow and we should quit waiting for the ideal. The longer you wait, the ideal wont come. Go with who's available, the "least of the evils". If a Lefty isn't available, go for the most moderate & sane person.

And what should we do if the first-past-the-post system makes your vote worthless, in my area the tories have 60% of the vote.

Vote anyway so they only get 59.99% of the vote.

And what if I disagree with the other 4 parties? Lib Dems are traitors, Labour are Tory light, Greens are nutters who are against nuclear power, and UKIP are freaking UKIP.

Mark your ballot for two candidates, leave it blank, just make sure it gets in the box.

Was thinking more setting my ballot on fire in protest but that would probably get me in trouble.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on October 20, 2014, 01:51:55 pm
Maybe George Washington was right about political parties....
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ironchew on October 20, 2014, 01:52:33 pm
Hence, GET OUT THE VOTE!

We need to encourage our fellow Progressives to vote.

Here's some resources:
http://www.rockthevote.com/
http://registertovote.org/index.html
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bill-folman/10-reasons-you-must-vote_b_774777.html

Also, The Dems aren't perfect and candidates may come off as fuddy-duddies (like the situation in Finland). But I say, progress is often slow and we should quit waiting for the ideal. The longer you wait, the ideal wont come. Go with who's available, the "least of the evils". If a Lefty isn't available, go for the most moderate & sane person.

And what should we do if the first-past-the-post system makes your vote worthless, in my area the tories have 60% of the vote.

Vote anyway so they only get 59.99% of the vote.

And what if I disagree with the other 4 parties? Lib Dems are traitors, Labour are Tory light, Greens are nutters who are against nuclear power, and UKIP are freaking UKIP.

Mark your ballot for two candidates, leave it blank, just make sure it gets in the box.

Was thinking more setting my ballot on fire in protest but that would probably get me in trouble.

If you disagree with all of them and you wish to effect change, you should have run for office (EDIT: or directly support the campaign of someone you do agree with and help them run for office). Otherwise, you're only sending the message that you endorse the candidate that other people pick for you.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RavynousHunter on October 20, 2014, 02:21:44 pm
Eeh, sometimes, you gotta go with the one that's just less of an asshole than their opponents.  Just how shit is, sometimes.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ironchew on October 20, 2014, 02:41:46 pm
Eeh, sometimes, you gotta go with the one that's just less of an asshole than their opponents.  Just how shit is, sometimes.

I disagree, to the point where I think that's a worse idea than not voting at all. Your options are restricted in a first-past-the-post system, but if enough people vote for a party that represents their interests and one of those parties gains enough momentum, it starts cannibalizing the "mainstream" parties. Said mainstream parties respond by running candidates or supporting policies that are very similar to the upstart party in an attempt to win back votes. At least in the United States, this worked in the 1930s with the Communist party and the Democrats and it could still work today.

Voting for the lesser evil perpetuates shitty politics and it shifts the range of acceptable political opinions further away from you.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Random Gal on October 20, 2014, 02:58:23 pm
Sadly, most of the time, third parties in America tend to be election spoilers for the party closest to them, like with Nader throwing the Florida vote to Bush in 2000. Even the most successful third-party run in 1912 accomplished the same thing, dividing the Republicans and landing the Democrats in the White House.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ironchew on October 20, 2014, 03:40:35 pm
Sadly, most of the time, third parties in America tend to be election spoilers for the party closest to them, like with Nader throwing the Florida vote to Bush in 2000. Even the most successful third-party run in 1912 accomplished the same thing, dividing the Republicans and landing the Democrats in the White House.

That's the whole point. You sabotage the campaigns of one mainstream party so that they come crawling to your party's platform in the next election cycle. That's how to shift the range of acceptable political opinions towards your issues.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RavynousHunter on October 20, 2014, 04:05:35 pm
Okay, I have a pertinent question for ya, Chew: how?  How do you propose we, realistically, go about doing what you're talking about?  Remember that we're not millionaires, and that the game is critically rigged against us.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on October 20, 2014, 05:55:03 pm
Maybe George Washington was right about political parties....

(http://img-9gag-lol.9cache.com/photo/avZzj6q_700b.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ironchew on October 20, 2014, 06:26:37 pm
Okay, I have a pertinent question for ya, Chew: how?  How do you propose we, realistically, go about doing what you're talking about?  Remember that we're not millionaires, and that the game is critically rigged against us.

If I started discussing realistic options you would move the goalposts on me. Fuck realistic -- I aim for optimistic.

If we stopped paying attention to the shills telling us not to vote, that would be a start (yes, I know propaganda is tailor-made by top-notch psychologists to be spoon-fed to the masses without trouble) We have to get up off our asses, help the campaigns of candidates we support, and vote for them in the primaries of their parties -- many third parties allow voters affiliated with other parties or none at all to vote in their primaries. Finally, we need to get over the "vote for the lesser evil" bullshit and start voting for the candidate, third party or no, that best supports our issues. When a big enough chunk of the voting population does this, the mainstream parties begin to adopt those platforms because they want those votes back, and the range of acceptable political opinion shifts in our favor.

If this sounds like too much trouble to you, ask yourself, "Is this more trouble than enduring a government that doesn't represent me for the rest of my life?". If your answer is no [EDIT: I meant "yes"], you have nothing to complain about.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RavynousHunter on October 20, 2014, 08:52:44 pm
Okay, I have a pertinent question for ya, Chew: how?  How do you propose we, realistically, go about doing what you're talking about?  Remember that we're not millionaires, and that the game is critically rigged against us.

If I started discussing realistic options you would move the goalposts on me.

So, you automatically know what I'm gonna do?  Well, fuck me, with your powers of foresight, you could just about be a god damned superhero.  I meant what I said, you braying jackass, I don't hide landmines in my words unlike some pretentious weenies out there.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ghoti on October 20, 2014, 09:04:10 pm
So, you automatically know what I'm gonna do?  Well, fuck me, with your powers of foresight, you could just about be a god damned superhero.  I meant what I said, you braying jackass, I don't hide landmines in my words unlike some pretentious weenies out there.
You seem upset.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RavynousHunter on October 20, 2014, 09:08:09 pm
So, you automatically know what I'm gonna do?  Well, fuck me, with your powers of foresight, you could just about be a god damned superhero.  I meant what I said, you braying jackass, I don't hide landmines in my words unlike some pretentious weenies out there.
You seem upset.

I don't like people putting words in my mouth.  Unless I'm joking, which usually isn't too difficult to tell, I say what I mean.  I don't do goalpost-shifting nonsense; it takes too much time, too much energy, and yields too little reward.

(Also, just because I'm caustic doesn't mean I'm upset.  I just felt like being caustic...like a good organic acid.)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ghoti on October 20, 2014, 09:13:45 pm
So, you automatically know what I'm gonna do?  Well, fuck me, with your powers of foresight, you could just about be a god damned superhero.  I meant what I said, you braying jackass, I don't hide landmines in my words unlike some pretentious weenies out there.
You seem upset.

I don't like people putting words in my mouth.  Unless I'm joking, which usually isn't too difficult to tell, I say what I mean.  I don't do goalpost-shifting nonsense; it takes too much time, too much energy, and yields too little reward.

(Also, just because I'm caustic doesn't mean I'm upset.  I just felt like being caustic...like a good organic acid.)
Ah, that makes sense.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Random Gal on October 20, 2014, 10:18:57 pm
Sadly, most of the time, third parties in America tend to be election spoilers for the party closest to them, like with Nader throwing the Florida vote to Bush in 2000. Even the most successful third-party run in 1912 accomplished the same thing, dividing the Republicans and landing the Democrats in the White House.

That's the whole point. You sabotage the campaigns of one mainstream party so that they come crawling to your party's platform in the next election cycle. That's how to shift the range of acceptable political opinions towards your issues.

Except nothing like that happened in the examples I mentioned. Nader didn't force the Democrats to go more liberal in 2004 and Roosevelt didn't force the Republicans to be more progressive in 1916. If anything, the opposite happened.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Nemo on October 20, 2014, 11:41:45 pm
Say what you will about the Tea Party (and I have a lot to say about them, not much nice), but give them credit: they had an impact. They forced the Republican Party so far right that I can almost feel myself getting stupider every time my family discusses politics, which thankfully isn't often.

Any progressive counterpart to the Tea Party will not be as well funded as they are The Tea Party is a totally grassroots movement of regular, average, real Americans, and to beat that, any progressive counterpart will need to focus on lower level grassroots moves of their own. Don't expect to intimidate politicians with money. Instead, we would have to focus on education and public awareness. Which brings me to another weakness to be overcome.

It's often been pointed out that the Tea Party movement consists largely of older generations. That works well in their favor for the moment. Older people vote more, and they are more politically active. Other than voter apathy, the worst thing for democracy is the idea that the Wednesday after you vote, your civic responsibility is done. Not so. Hold leaders accountable. Change isn't easy. Voting isn't even the bare minimum that an individual can contribute.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: R. U. Sirius on October 21, 2014, 10:28:10 am
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Tea_Party (http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Tea_Party)

While I don't doubt that the Tea Party is made up mainly of ordinary people, there are very good reasons to disbelieve its claims to being a "grassroots" movement. Grassroots movements, by and large, start from the bottom and work their way up, often with little or no funding other than what their participants can scrape together. There's strong evidence that the Koch brothers have been pulling the Tea Party's financial strings since the beginning, as shown in the article above, even though they've tried to keep their involvement at enough of a remove to be deniable.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Feral Dog on October 21, 2014, 07:54:20 pm
(http://wp.production.patheos.com/blogs/lovejoyfeminism/files/2014/10/Reagan.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Canadian Mojo on October 21, 2014, 09:14:21 pm
(http://wp.production.patheos.com/blogs/lovejoyfeminism/files/2014/10/Reagan.jpg)

But that was just fags. This could actually affect me.

Any bets on someone with an (R) beside their name or a time slot on Fox actually saying this?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on October 21, 2014, 10:11:14 pm
(http://media.cagle.com/77/2014/10/21/155207_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Sigmaleph on October 21, 2014, 10:38:54 pm
(http://wp.production.patheos.com/blogs/lovejoyfeminism/files/2014/10/Reagan.jpg)

Well, overreaction can be just as inadequate a response as underreaction.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Nemo on October 21, 2014, 11:29:46 pm
But that was just fags. This could actually affect me.

Any bets on someone with an (R) beside their name or a time slot on Fox actually saying this?
Well, that would require them to first acknowledge that HIV was even capable of existing in the United States during the wise leadership of Saint Ronald. Only after that, and several more steps, would they blame the gays.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: mythbuster43 on October 21, 2014, 11:30:23 pm
(http://wp.production.patheos.com/blogs/lovejoyfeminism/files/2014/10/Reagan.jpg)

Well, overreaction can be just as inadequate a response as underreaction.

Quite true, as evidenced by people advocating that Obama create an "Ebola czar." Seriously. It's sad that it's become to much to ask that the human race show a little rational thought.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on October 22, 2014, 09:35:03 am
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: mellenORL on October 22, 2014, 11:32:24 am
(http://wp.production.patheos.com/blogs/lovejoyfeminism/files/2014/10/Reagan.jpg)

Well, overreaction can be just as inadequate a response as underreaction.

Quite true, as evidenced by people advocating that Obama create an "Ebola czar." Seriously. It's sad that it's become to much to ask that the human race show a little rational thought.

I went to the March on Washington back in '87. Half a million LGBTQ's and allies filled the city that weekend. Twenty-odd thousand HIV deaths and a quarter of a million of us filled The Capitol Mall to capacity (the mile long narrow park between the Washington Monument and Congress building). Reagan, and Congress for that matter, still didn't do jack diddly shit for many months afterwards.

http://m.dailykos.com/story/2011/02/06/941472/-Screw-Reagan (http://m.dailykos.com/story/2011/02/06/941472/-Screw-Reagan)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sxz9M36LjYY
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Sigmaleph on October 22, 2014, 12:43:24 pm
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Well, overreaction can be just as inadequate a response as underreaction.

Quite true, as evidenced by people advocating that Obama create an "Ebola czar." Seriously. It's sad that it's become to much to ask that the human race show a little rational thought.

I went to the March on Washington back in '87. Half a million LGBTQ's and allies filled the city that weekend. Twenty-odd thousand HIV deaths and a quarter of a million of us filled The Capitol Mall to capacity (the mile long narrow park between the Washington Monument and Congress building). Reagan, and Congress for that matter, still didn't do jack diddly shit for many months afterwards.

http://m.dailykos.com/story/2011/02/06/941472/-Screw-Reagan (http://m.dailykos.com/story/2011/02/06/941472/-Screw-Reagan)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sxz9M36LjYY

I'm not defending Reagan, at all. I'm saying Reagan being stupid in one direction does not excuse Obama being stupid in the opposite direction.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on October 22, 2014, 12:53:41 pm
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: mellenORL on October 22, 2014, 02:24:37 pm
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Well, overreaction can be just as inadequate a response as underreaction.

Quite true, as evidenced by people advocating that Obama create an "Ebola czar." Seriously. It's sad that it's become to much to ask that the human race show a little rational thought.

I went to the March on Washington back in '87. Half a million LGBTQ's and allies filled the city that weekend. Twenty-odd thousand HIV deaths and a quarter of a million of us filled The Capitol Mall to capacity (the mile long narrow park between the Washington Monument and Congress building). Reagan, and Congress for that matter, still didn't do jack diddly shit for many months afterwards.

http://m.dailykos.com/story/2011/02/06/941472/-Screw-Reagan (http://m.dailykos.com/story/2011/02/06/941472/-Screw-Reagan)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sxz9M36LjYY

I'm not defending Reagan, at all. I'm saying Reagan being stupid in one direction does not excuse Obama being stupid in the opposite direction.

I was not actually responding to your post, as it stands on it's own merits in factual basis. I was expanding on the meme's point about 20K HIV deaths and etc. There was quite a lot of public outrage over the issue back then, but Reagan plus the conservative element of the (then partly moderate) GOP just stuck to their guns by stonewalling and even making light of a national tragedy. The resurgence and growth of the U.S. LGBTQ rights movement had it's roots in that particular controversy.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Sigmaleph on October 22, 2014, 02:36:53 pm
Alright then. Sorry for the confusion.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lt. Fred on October 23, 2014, 01:50:20 am
Maybe George Washington was right about political parties....

(http://img-9gag-lol.9cache.com/photo/avZzj6q_700b.jpg)

Is it even possible to have a political system without parties?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on October 23, 2014, 03:04:17 am
Maybe George Washington was right about political parties....

(http://img-9gag-lol.9cache.com/photo/avZzj6q_700b.jpg)

Is it even possible to have a political system without parties?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consensus_democracy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consensus_democracy)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on October 23, 2014, 11:58:12 am
(http://i.imgur.com/TqiorT5.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RavynousHunter on October 23, 2014, 02:05:48 pm
Maybe George Washington was right about political parties....

(http://img-9gag-lol.9cache.com/photo/avZzj6q_700b.jpg)

Is it even possible to have a political system without parties?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consensus_democracy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consensus_democracy)

That, and a meritocracy.  That way, the only people with power are people who've actually, ya know, done something for society instead of just having known the right people and/or had a lot of money.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Sigmaleph on October 23, 2014, 02:29:16 pm
The problem with meritocracies is that someone (person, group, institution, whatever) has to decide what does and does not count as "merit", and they are going to bias it in their favour.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RavynousHunter on October 23, 2014, 02:39:34 pm
The problem with meritocracies is that someone (person, group, institution, whatever) has to decide what does and does not count as "merit", and they are going to bias it in their favour.

That's true, but there are certain things that are more or less globally good for society, for example, volunteering at a homeless shelter.  It would take some hammering out and consensus, but it'd be possible.  Maybe not in the US, but somewhere.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ironchew on October 23, 2014, 04:23:16 pm
That, and a meritocracy.  That way, the only people with power are people who've actually, ya know, done something for society instead of just having known the right people and/or had a lot of money.

It is increasingly impractical to have an impact in modern society without having a lot of money and/or having the right social network. Another obvious problem with a meritocracy is that the rulers need not have any responsibility towards representing the will of the public or furthering the public good. There are no checks (say, elections) that would require them to ever listen to their serfs.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Canadian Mojo on October 23, 2014, 05:06:07 pm
So, Starship Troopers -- the novel, not the movie.

I can't remember how many times I've heard it called fascist for having a government doing exactly that.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lt. Fred on October 23, 2014, 05:49:03 pm
Maybe George Washington was right about political parties....

(http://img-9gag-lol.9cache.com/photo/avZzj6q_700b.jpg)

Is it even possible to have a political system without parties?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consensus_democracy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consensus_democracy)

That, and a meritocracy.  That way, the only people with power are people who've actually, ya know, done something for society instead of just having known the right people and/or had a lot of money.

But how are you going to actually preselect candidates? How do you develop policy? How do you give the public a choice over that policy? If you don't have the Red/Blue/Green colours, it becomes very hard to keep political bodies accountable. In consensus democracy for instance, the government agenda seems to be decided after the public has already voted, making the system much less democratic.

That's the beauty of parties. They provide a choice. Do you want free health insurance? Vote Democrat. If you don't, vote Republican.

The trouble with the American system is that you can't actually trust the parties. You vote for free health insurance and they give you something vaguely resembling that, due to the weak party system. Also, the two-party system is dreadful for choice, because more than one decision will be made every four years.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Random Gal on October 23, 2014, 05:54:13 pm
That's true, but there are certain things that are more or less globally good for society, for example, volunteering at a homeless shelter.  It would take some hammering out and consensus, but it'd be possible.  Maybe not in the US, but somewhere.

Even that can be twisted into looking negative, ex: "Stop giving those lazy bums handouts! They'll never get jobs if they're not suffering!"
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on October 24, 2014, 12:49:40 pm
I'm also bummed that the people who could overthrow the Tealiban say home with their Cheetos when they should be out voting!

Again, I say to them....QUIT WAITING FOR THE "IDEAL" THE IDEAL WON'T COME FOR NOW! GO WITH WHAT'S POSSIBLE NOW!

I'm aware that the Democratic Party is wishy-washy! Well, better them than a horde of Theocratic Fascists!

Once people start to vote DEMS constantly & faithfully, then, over time, we can Liberalize the party.

Baby steps....baby steps!

I'm so disgusted with a majority of otherwise intelligent people who are too stupid to GET TOGETHER AND GET THINGS DONE!



You know what's frustrating. I'm trying to find the websites that can tell me.....

1.) How the Left can & WILL get it's groove back!
2.) A concise list on how Democrats & Repugs are not the same (and how the Dems are better).
3.) Hopeful news for Progressive Americans (to raise morale).

But I can't find what I'm looking for. Even the Internet is against me. Am I a bad searcher? Surely such articles exist in droves! I keep hearing that the majority of Americans are Center-Left. If so, we should be running the show! Were those articles lying? Is America really that backwards?

Maybe all American Progressives who "get it" and CARE should just all move to Canada! Yes, there's a NeoCon in the PM seat, but so far, the Canadians are sane and intelligent. With the Progressive Americans, we can stem the Right-Ward tide and put the Harperites out to Pasture...making Canada the REAL LAND OF THE FREE. Then we can watch the U.S. turn into a Fascist hellhole and tell the boneheaded Progressives-Who-Didn't-Vote-Because-They're-Dumbasses "WE TOLD YOU SO! WE TRIED TO MAKE YOU VOTE! YOU GOT WHAT YOU DIDN'T VOTE FOR! WE TOLD YOU SO!!! DUMBASSES!!!".

Canada will become the big Liberal power of North America. If U.S. Libs need to come here as immigrants, let them. Maybe they'll learn and we Libs, we're cool like that.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on October 24, 2014, 12:52:53 pm
I'm also bummed that the people who could overthrow the Tealiban say home with their Cheetos when they should be out voting!

Again, I say to them....QUIT WAITING FOR THE "IDEAL" THE IDEAL WON'T COME FOR NOW! GO WITH WHAT'S POSSIBLE NOW!

I'm aware that the Democratic Party is wishy-washy! Well, better them than a horde of Theocratic Fascists!

Once people start to vote DEMS constantly & faithfully, then, over time, we can Liberalize the party.

Baby steps....baby steps!

I'm so disgusted with a majority of otherwise intelligent people who are too stupid to GET TOGETHER AND GET THINGS DONE!

Sometimes, it's about choosing the lesser of two evils.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on October 24, 2014, 01:04:39 pm
I'm also bummed that the people who could overthrow the Tealiban say home with their Cheetos when they should be out voting!

Again, I say to them....QUIT WAITING FOR THE "IDEAL" THE IDEAL WON'T COME FOR NOW! GO WITH WHAT'S POSSIBLE NOW!

I'm aware that the Democratic Party is wishy-washy! Well, better them than a horde of Theocratic Fascists!

Once people start to vote DEMS constantly & faithfully, then, over time, we can Liberalize the party.

Baby steps....baby steps!

I'm so disgusted with a majority of otherwise intelligent people who are too stupid to GET TOGETHER AND GET THINGS DONE!

Sometimes, it's about choosing the lesser of two evils.


EXACTLY! Now if someone can give me links to the sites I'm looking for, I'll be most happy.

Give me hope give me morale!



I swear, the Far-Right is PROOF that "Spiritual Warfare Prayer" WORKS! I used to be one of them. I went to their churches! It's malefic magick! I know this board is mostly skeptics/atheists but I don't care, I'm going to say it.....Prayer, like magick....is directing very real psychic/neurological energy to affect some sort of change. You don't need to believe in Deities or an afterlife.

There are HUGE amounts of Tealibans that have been praying in concentrated, energy-packed ways, for the Progressives to become inept, spineless, unable to organize, pessimistic, fearful, etc. it has been WORKING!

Our lack of unity alone is not the real reason we can't get everything done! Even the Far-Right is rife with backstabbing, Fundie Fights, downfalls & ineptitude. No, something INTANGIBLE is messing with our heads!

S'bout time that Progressive religious/spiritual/magickal groups/churches/temples/etc. would start getting on the "Spiritual Warfare" bandwagon. IT WORKS!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on October 24, 2014, 01:05:10 pm
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on October 24, 2014, 01:14:38 pm
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Yes. Canada is our last resort & new beginning, should the American Progs fail to take back this country.

I'm going to create a folder on my Bookmarks dedicated to Canada stuff....just in case.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on October 24, 2014, 04:35:28 pm
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Yes. Canada is our last resort & new beginning, should the American Progs fail to take back this country.

I'm going to create a folder on my Bookmarks dedicated to Canada stuff....just in case.

I would like to introduce you to someone called Stephen Harper (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Harper).
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on October 24, 2014, 06:34:56 pm
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Yes. Canada is our last resort & new beginning, should the American Progs fail to take back this country.

I'm going to create a folder on my Bookmarks dedicated to Canada stuff....just in case.

I would like to introduce you to someone called Stephen Harper (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Harper).

I know about him. I mentioned him in my earlier post. Can't you read?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on October 24, 2014, 07:03:40 pm
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on October 26, 2014, 05:01:45 pm
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on October 26, 2014, 11:51:37 pm
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on October 27, 2014, 11:01:17 am
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I realized something. Was this cartoon telling me the opposite of what I interpreted? That Canada's going the way of the USA?

Well, I've read more and I seems to be.

But I had an epiphany.....folks hear me out.

But of the success of the Far-Right has been casting Progressives as out-of-touch & elitist. We are seen as rich city-folk or hippies or nerdy college professors and not as average, hard-working, salt-of-the-earth, Joe Q. American/Canadian, the farmers, laborers, etc.

We as Progressives need to wrap ourselves in the flags, embrace the patriotic symbols and acknowledge, honor, respect & truly reflect "The Common Person". We need to be relatable to "Blue Collar Farmer Brown".

You see, it's not just bigotry that causes people to vote stupidly, it's the whole fear of the "Out-of-touch Liberal Elitist". For effective change, you need to be relatable to the masses.

We need to be relatable to the masses....reach out to them....try to understand them....not dismiss them as morons & rejects from Deliverance. Many GOPers, NeoCon voters, Bible-butts & Teabaggers are really just otherwise decent regular Americans who perhaps are a bit misguided. To dismiss them all as idiots and make fun of them is stupid. Yes, there are psychotic hardliners but there are also hard-working farmers & other laborers and dear old Grannies. It's just that being old-fashioned & undereducated kind of made them Teabag material.

If we can befriend & reach out to them, find some sort of understanding, we can unite America, Left & Right, and put the Far-Right out to pasture. Same for Canada.

As for me, I will stay here in this glorious land of E PLURIBUS UNUM and fight to take it back!

I know that the Machine has far more money than the Progs but we Progs can find a way to make more with less. Money means nothing! We will be to politics like The Blair Witch Project was to 1990's horror cinema. We may see the film as dorky & cliche, now but back then, it was groundbreaking & genuinely chilling....and it was just a cheap indie flick made with a camcorder & a budget reported between the $20,000-$700,000 range. They didn't need big bucks to make a terrifying horror blockbuster.

We are the Progressives....we can improvise, innovate & make do with less. We have the Internet & Internet radio. We are the innovators and thinkers outside of boxes. We are the compassionate and we need to turn our compassion to even those on the other side of the fence. We need to limit our barbs to the LEADERS of the Far-Right but we must be welcoming, understanding & compassionate towards their followers.

We need to be for The Common Person.....because we are.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Sigmaleph on October 27, 2014, 11:51:18 am
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I realized something. Was this cartoon telling me the opposite of what I interpreted? That Canada's going the way of the USA?

Well, I've read more and I seems to be.

But I had an epiphany.....folks hear me out.

But of the success of the Far-Right has been casting Progressives as out-of-touch & elitist. We are seen as rich city-folk or hippies or nerdy college professors and not as average, hard-working, salt-of-the-earth, Joe Q. American/Canadian, the farmers, laborers, etc.

I'm not saying you don't have a point, but what do you do if the nerdy college professors feel like they are being slighted in favour of the farmers and laborers?

The conflict between expanding your base and keeping your core demographics is an essential balance in every political movement. Farmers and college professors often want different things (more money for agricultural subsidies vs more money for science funding, to give a simplistic example) and sometimes your policy has to reflect that. If the progressives can expand their base towards new demographics, what's stopping the conservatives from doing the same, capturing some of the demographics that get less pandering?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on October 27, 2014, 11:59:42 am
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I realized something. Was this cartoon telling me the opposite of what I interpreted? That Canada's going the way of the USA?

Well, I've read more and I seems to be.

But I had an epiphany.....folks hear me out.

But of the success of the Far-Right has been casting Progressives as out-of-touch & elitist. We are seen as rich city-folk or hippies or nerdy college professors and not as average, hard-working, salt-of-the-earth, Joe Q. American/Canadian, the farmers, laborers, etc.

I'm not saying you don't have a point, but what do you do if the nerdy college professors feel like they are being slighted in favour of the farmers and laborers?

The conflict between expanding your base and keeping your core demographics is an essential balance in every political movement. Farmers and college professors often want different things (more money for agricultural subsidies vs more money for science funding, to give a simplistic example) and sometimes your policy has to reflect that. If the progressives can expand their base towards new demographics, what's stopping the conservatives from doing the same, capturing some of the demographics that get less pandering?


Well, if we start first and they see how freeing, loving and beneficial Progressivism is, they may prefer Progressivism over Wingnuttery.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Sigmaleph on October 27, 2014, 12:16:04 pm
Well, if we start first and they see how freeing, loving and beneficial Progressivism is, they may prefer Progressivism over Wingnuttery.

Empirically, this is not a very good bet. We've had a discussion before about progressives becoming conservatives and vice-versa; we know that people can change sides and there is no "Progressivisim is awesome!" effect keeping people in one position. The why of it is an interesting question*, but the empirical reality is not in doubt.

Again, not saying progressives shouldn't expand their base. Just saying there are practical issues that should be kept in mind.


*Without assuming which political position is right, mind you. The paradox applies equally to a progressive or a conservative who thinks their position is obviously right.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Sylvana on October 28, 2014, 02:35:59 am
Well, if we start first and they see how freeing, loving and beneficial Progressivism is, they may prefer Progressivism over Wingnuttery.

Empirically, this is not a very good bet. We've had a discussion before about progressives becoming conservatives and vice-versa; we know that people can change sides and there is no "Progressivisim is awesome!" effect keeping people in one position. The why of it is an interesting question*, but the empirical reality is not in doubt.

Again, not saying progressives shouldn't expand their base. Just saying there are practical issues that should be kept in mind.


*Without assuming which political position is right, mind you. The paradox applies equally to a progressive or a conservative who thinks their position is obviously right.

Part of the problem progressives have, is that their base is extremely diverse, and keeping all those parties happy is borderline impossible without some kind of magical intervention. However conservatives, by nature seek only to maintain the status quotient so their base is unfortunately very stable. Add to that how today's progressives age and become tomorrows conservatives, who then have kids who become tomorrows progressives.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Nemo on October 28, 2014, 10:32:57 am
Well, if we start first and they see how freeing, loving and beneficial Progressivism is, they may prefer Progressivism over Wingnuttery.

Empirically, this is not a very good bet. We've had a discussion before about progressives becoming conservatives and vice-versa; we know that people can change sides and there is no "Progressivisim is awesome!" effect keeping people in one position. The why of it is an interesting question*, but the empirical reality is not in doubt.

Again, not saying progressives shouldn't expand their base. Just saying there are practical issues that should be kept in mind.


*Without assuming which political position is right, mind you. The paradox applies equally to a progressive or a conservative who thinks their position is obviously right.

Part of the problem progressives have, is that their base is extremely diverse, and keeping all those parties happy is borderline impossible without some kind of magical intervention. However conservatives, by nature seek only to maintain the status quotient so their base is unfortunately very stable. Add to that how today's progressives age and become tomorrows conservatives, who then have kids who become tomorrows progressives.
While it is true that people tend to become more conservative as they get older, I also feel it should be noted that social progress isn't always zero sum. My metaphor is that progress takes ten steps forward, then the backlash takes it nine steps back. Slowly, but surely, the world is getting better. Look at how society views race. While I will agree that racism still exists, particularly in the law enforcement and criminal "justice" systems, at the same time, non whites have more opportunities than ever before. Almost nobody wants to go back to segregation, and those who do are considered fringe even within the Tea Party. I suspect that gay rights will be the same in a few years. We've already seen that in areas where they become accepted, it's almost unheard of for the issue to be turned back.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on October 28, 2014, 06:46:54 pm
Concerning voting, I found this glimmer of hope! It may be concerning North Carolina (one state profiled here) but it's hope:

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2014/10/27/early-voting-nc-democrats-crushing-gop-despite-vote-rigging-video/

There's a bunch of states with early voting & I'd imagine that it's the same there as it is in NC.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on October 29, 2014, 03:37:37 pm
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cloud3514 on November 01, 2014, 12:20:02 am
More like military propaganda.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on November 01, 2014, 12:32:00 am
More like military propaganda.

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I can't believe you said that about a cartoon paying tribute to the tragic death of a Canadian Serviceman.  That's just not kosher.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cloud3514 on November 01, 2014, 01:27:23 am
And where in the cartoon does it indicate that? It's just another cartoon that treats soldiers as heroes just because they're soldiers.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on November 01, 2014, 01:33:21 am
And where in the cartoon does it indicate that? It's just another cartoon that treats soldiers as heroes just because they're soldiers.

The fact that they specified "Canadian" should be a hint.  It's okay to disagree with me on how much servicemen deserve to be called heroes, but insulting this guy's memory crosses a line.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cloud3514 on November 01, 2014, 01:35:52 am
So Canadians aren't capable of nationalism? I mean, I admit that I could be wrong. I have no idea who drew that one and could be a tribute, if a shitty one that focuses on the "soldiers are heroes" narrative over the tragedy of the guy's death, but if the artist is Canadian, then it comes off entirely as typical right-wing military glorification.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on November 01, 2014, 01:40:22 am
So Canadians aren't capable of nationalism? I mean, I admit that I could be wrong. I have no idea who drew that one and could be a tribute, if a shitty one that focuses on the "soldiers are heroes" narrative over the tragedy of the guy's death, but if the artist is Canadian, then it comes off entirely as typical right-wing military glorification.

Here's his site, I'll let you judge for yourself:

http://neasecartoons.com/

(And he does live in Oakville.)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on November 01, 2014, 01:43:31 am
So Canadians aren't capable of nationalism? I mean, I admit that I could be wrong. I have no idea who drew that one and could be a tribute, if a shitty one that focuses on the "soldiers are heroes" narrative over the tragedy of the guy's death, but if the artist is Canadian, then it comes off entirely as typical right-wing military glorification.

Here's his site, I'll let you judge for yourself:

http://neasecartoons.com/

(And he does live in Oakville.)

He seems fairly centrist to me.  Then again, maybe things are different in Canada.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cloud3514 on November 01, 2014, 01:46:55 am
Well, I have no idea what to make of that. Likely because I have no context for them due to being in the states. However, while I admit that I'm most likely wrong about the purpose of the comic, I do think it does focus on the "soldiers are heroes" thing over the actual tragedy, which is an issue Americans have as well, thus the sarcastic knee-jerk.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on November 01, 2014, 02:04:14 am
Well, I have no idea what to make of that. Likely because I have no context for them due to being in the states. However, while I admit that I'm most likely wrong about the purpose of the comic, I do think it does focus on the "soldiers are heroes" thing over the actual tragedy, which is an issue Americans have as well, thus the sarcastic knee-jerk.

Yes, it does focus on that, but keep in mind that the Germans, who in WWI had troops that they called stormtroopers, gave the same name to Canadian troops.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Canadian Mojo on November 01, 2014, 08:49:50 am
The problem is less with the comic itself, and more with the fact that we have a right wing douche canoe in power at the moment who thinks the way to solve problems is with violence and draconian laws and would quite happily use this incident as a Canadian 9/11 if he could.

There was a time when we could stand on a line in the sand between the Arabs and the Western powers and keep them from killing each other, and we were probably the only country in the world that could have pulled it off.

Now we just tag along with the big players with our third rate military and pretend that sneaking in to deliver a kick during the beat down is a meaningful contribution.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on November 01, 2014, 09:46:54 am
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on November 02, 2014, 11:40:50 am
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: SCarpelan on November 02, 2014, 12:25:49 pm
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All of the above interpreted Marx's theory and adapted it to their specific societies and goals so they indeed are communists in that sense. On the other hand, claiming that that's all communism is is just ignorant. None of the systems those people built were the kind of communism Marx originally envisioned. What really fucking annoys me is: "my specific, perfect, entirely infalliable..."

In this case sarcasm is a dishonest way to attack the argument and can be used against any ideology that has any kind of flaws and has several interpretations - in other words, pretty much all of them. "Yeah, crony capitalism sucks but my specific, perfect, entirely infallible brand of capitalism has never been tried!"
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on November 02, 2014, 12:30:15 pm
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All of the above interpreted Marx's theory and adapted it to their specific societies and goals so they indeed are communists in that sense. On the other hand, claiming that that's all communism is is just ignorant. None of the systems those people built were the kind of communism Marx originally envisioned. What really fucking annoys me is: "my specific, perfect, entirely infalliable..."

In this case sarcasm is a dishonest way to attack the argument and can be used against any ideology that has any kind of flaws and has several interpretations - in other words, pretty much all of them. "Yeah, crony capitalism sucks but my specific, perfect, entirely infallible brand of capitalism has never been tried!"

You know, there's a reason Marx's vision has never been tried: it's completely unworkable in the real world.  And communism has failed every single time it was tried.

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I'd say that pretty much sums up modern communists.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cerim Treascair on November 02, 2014, 12:37:38 pm
Actually... no.  Communism DOES work.  It just only works in exceedingly small scale.  The studies I've read denote that after about 100 people in a space, it tends to fall apart.  Below that? Yeah, it works.  Not perfectly, because there are sociopaths out there, but it does work.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on November 02, 2014, 12:38:37 pm
Actually... no.  Communism DOES work.  It just only works in exceedingly small scale.  The studies I've read denote that after about 100 people in a space, it tends to fall apart.  Below that? Yeah, it works.  Not perfectly, because there are sociopaths out there, but it does work.

I was talking about on a national scale.  Sorry if I didn't make that clear.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ironchew on November 02, 2014, 12:38:57 pm
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All of the above interpreted Marx's theory and adapted it to their specific societies and goals so they indeed are communists in that sense. On the other hand, claiming that that's all communism is is just ignorant. None of the systems those people built were the kind of communism Marx originally envisioned. What really fucking annoys me is: "my specific, perfect, entirely infalliable..."

In this case sarcasm is a dishonest way to attack the argument and can be used against any ideology that has any kind of flaws and has several interpretations - in other words, pretty much all of them. "Yeah, crony capitalism sucks but my specific, perfect, entirely infallible brand of capitalism has never been tried!"

I've noticed the depressing trend (coming from progressives rather than neoliberals this time around) of saying, "We need to get rid of this crony capitalism so that true capitalism will fix our economic problems."

No. Beyond the obvious no-true-scotsman fallacy, just no.

Communists had to own up to the fact that the highly-flawed, authoritarian implementations of real-world communism are, in fact, communism. We need to ditch the "crony capitalism" phrase; if you're willing to say we live in a capitalist economy, you should also own up to the fact that cronyism is a natural outgrowth of the tenets of capitalism.

You know, there's a reason Marx's vision has never been tried: it's completely unworkable in the real world.  And communism has failed every single time it was tried.

See, this is the kind of double-standard I'm talking about; motivated by little more than petty nationalism. What metric are you using to say communism has failed? China seems to be doing pretty well right now. What metric are you using to say capitalism is successful? The United States has what could generously be called a mixed economy and we have several command-economy structures in place to regulate the periodic failures of unrestrained capitalism.

Get your definitions straight before claiming either economic system has "failed".
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cerim Treascair on November 02, 2014, 12:40:33 pm
Oh yeah, nationally speaking, Communism doesn't work.  Humanity just isn't wired to work that way.  It's one of those 'sounds good on paper' things, but in practice, yeah, no, there's too many assholes out there.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ironchew on November 02, 2014, 12:44:11 pm
Oh yeah, nationally speaking, Communism doesn't work.  Humanity just isn't wired to work that way.  It's one of those 'sounds good on paper' things, but in practice, yeah, no, there's too many assholes out there.

Quick question: do you think capitalism works on a national scale? I'm tempted to argue your point, but I don't want to put words in your mouth.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on November 02, 2014, 12:45:50 pm
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All of the above interpreted Marx's theory and adapted it to their specific societies and goals so they indeed are communists in that sense. On the other hand, claiming that that's all communism is is just ignorant. None of the systems those people built were the kind of communism Marx originally envisioned. What really fucking annoys me is: "my specific, perfect, entirely infalliable..."

In this case sarcasm is a dishonest way to attack the argument and can be used against any ideology that has any kind of flaws and has several interpretations - in other words, pretty much all of them. "Yeah, crony capitalism sucks but my specific, perfect, entirely infallible brand of capitalism has never been tried!"

I've noticed the depressing trend (coming from progressives rather than neoliberals this time around) of saying, "We need to get rid of this crony capitalism so that true capitalism will fix our economic problems."

No. Beyond the obvious no-true-scotsman fallacy, just no.

Communists had to own up to the fact that the highly-flawed, authoritarian implementations of real-world communism are, in fact, communism. We need to ditch the "crony capitalism" phrase; if you're willing to say we live in a capitalist economy, you should also own up to the fact that cronyism is a natural outgrowth of the tenets of capitalism.

A natural outgrowth, yes, but more moderate capitalism has a far, far better track record than any form of communism in just about every way.

You know, there's a reason Marx's vision has never been tried: it's completely unworkable in the real world.  And communism has failed every single time it was tried.

See, this is the kind of double-standard I'm talking about; motivated by little more than petty nationalism. What metric are you using to say communism has failed? China seems to be doing pretty well right now. What metric are you using to say capitalism is successful? The United States has what could generously be called a mixed economy and we have several command-economy structures in place to regulate the periodic failures of unrestrained capitalism.

Get your definitions straight before claiming either economic system has "failed".

Chinese communism went out with Deng Xiaoping.  These days, China's about as "communist" as Imperial Germany.

And I have never advocated unrestrained capitalism, because that leads to massive problems.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ironchew on November 02, 2014, 12:49:27 pm
A natural outgrowth, yes, but more moderate capitalism has a far, far better track record than any form of communism in just about every way.

"more moderate capitalism" is a weasel word. Please enlighten me as to which parts of "more moderate capitalism" involve socialist functions (for example, the Social Security program in the United States) or command-economy functions (military expenditures, public works, etc.)

Chinese communism went out with Deng Xiaoping.  These days, China's about as "communist" as Imperial Germany.

But isn't that just more moderate communism?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cerim Treascair on November 02, 2014, 12:51:43 pm
Oh yeah, nationally speaking, Communism doesn't work.  Humanity just isn't wired to work that way.  It's one of those 'sounds good on paper' things, but in practice, yeah, no, there's too many assholes out there.

Quick question: do you think capitalism works on a national scale? I'm tempted to argue your point, but I don't want to put words in your mouth.

Fair question.  Honestly, me personally? I don't think Capitalism quite works either.  The USA is proof enough, with money hoarders, Swiss bank accounts, the Cayman Islands and so many other places to tuck your money away from fair taxation, and there's plenty of historical note for things like robber barons in the 19th century and the Rockefellers back in the 20's...

In all? there's gotta be a better way, but damn if I know what it is.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: SCarpelan on November 02, 2014, 12:57:55 pm
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All of the above interpreted Marx's theory and adapted it to their specific societies and goals so they indeed are communists in that sense. On the other hand, claiming that that's all communism is is just ignorant. None of the systems those people built were the kind of communism Marx originally envisioned. What really fucking annoys me is: "my specific, perfect, entirely infalliable..."

In this case sarcasm is a dishonest way to attack the argument and can be used against any ideology that has any kind of flaws and has several interpretations - in other words, pretty much all of them. "Yeah, crony capitalism sucks but my specific, perfect, entirely infallible brand of capitalism has never been tried!"

You know, there's a reason Marx's vision has never been tried: it's completely unworkable in the real world.  And communism has failed every single time it was tried.

(http://www.quickmeme.com/img/9b/9b3ec2629194a2642105cfc73c1d3abfc7e7f4468871d26725b9dbb53786ca94.jpg)

I'd say that pretty much sums up modern communists.
Capitalism has been stuck in the endless rollercoaster of growth spurts and recessions with occasional huge crash. What were you saying about insanity again? To be more serious insanity thing doesn't really apply to either system. People are trying to adjust both the capitalist and marxist theories based on the flaws that have surfaced in the systems so nobody is trying the same thing endlessly.

Notice that I don't count myself as a communist since I don't know the economic theories enough to really comment on them with any kind of depth. I'm pointing out what I think is a logical flaw in the actual argument.

Edit: Oh, forgot to mention Cuba. It's kind of a special case since it's a communist experiment that has been and is being ruined not by the system itself but by the US embargo. It's impossible to say how it would have turned out without suffering from having its international trade capacity crippled.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Eiki-mun on November 02, 2014, 01:25:33 pm
Hopefully this argument keeps going, it's a very interesting one. That said, it's my personal opinion that the answer lies in our much-beloved mixed economy. To me, the ideal economic system would look very similar to the United States economy - just with more regulations and less freedom for corporations to do whatever the fuck they want with our government.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ironchew on November 02, 2014, 01:32:35 pm
Hopefully this argument keeps going, it's a very interesting one. That said, it's my personal opinion that the answer lies in our much-beloved mixed economy. To me, the ideal economic system would look very similar to the United States economy - just with more regulations and less freedom for corporations to do whatever the fuck they want with our government.

The United States still has a basic contradiction: we accept democracy for our laws, but we tolerate a dictatorship in the workplace. Socialism at least addresses that contradiction.

(http://i.imgur.com/Eft1a2a.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on November 02, 2014, 01:33:45 pm
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All of the above interpreted Marx's theory and adapted it to their specific societies and goals so they indeed are communists in that sense. On the other hand, claiming that that's all communism is is just ignorant. None of the systems those people built were the kind of communism Marx originally envisioned. What really fucking annoys me is: "my specific, perfect, entirely infalliable..."

In this case sarcasm is a dishonest way to attack the argument and can be used against any ideology that has any kind of flaws and has several interpretations - in other words, pretty much all of them. "Yeah, crony capitalism sucks but my specific, perfect, entirely infallible brand of capitalism has never been tried!"

You know, there's a reason Marx's vision has never been tried: it's completely unworkable in the real world.  And communism has failed every single time it was tried.

(http://www.quickmeme.com/img/9b/9b3ec2629194a2642105cfc73c1d3abfc7e7f4468871d26725b9dbb53786ca94.jpg)

I'd say that pretty much sums up modern communists.
Capitalism has been stuck in the endless rollercoaster of growth spurts and recessions with occasional huge crash. What were you saying about insanity again? To be more serious insanity thing doesn't really apply to either system. People are trying to adjust both the capitalist and marxist theories based on the flaws that have surfaced in the systems so nobody is trying the same thing endlessly.

Notice that I don't count myself as a communist since I don't know the economic theories enough to really comment on them with any kind of depth. I'm pointing out what I think is a logical flaw in the actual argument.

Edit: Oh, forgot to mention Cuba. It's kind of a special case since it's a communist experiment that has been and is being ruined not by the system itself but by the US embargo. It's impossible to say how it would have turned out without suffering from having its international trade capacity crippled.

Ironically, the Cuba of today has very high literacy rates and decent healthcare (when it's not being impacted by US embargoes), and they're also a very environment-friendly nation. I mean, it's still a shitty place to live if you're a political dissident, but you've got to admit that they're doing something right.

On the other hand, Cuba's mental health system is garbage.  Its suicide rate is the second-highest in the Americas (the first being Uruguay).

And it became environmentally friendly more or less by accident.  That's a good thing, but I'd hardly call it an achievement.

I do have to give them credit for the vast improvement in literacy, though.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Eiki-mun on November 02, 2014, 01:35:20 pm

The United States still has a basic contradiction: we accept democracy for our laws, but we tolerate a dictatorship in the workplace. Socialism at least addresses that contradiction.

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-JSnI4veZO4M/T6jD4eDY7zI/AAAAAAAABew/HJPdUYKaoDI/s1600/demand_workers_control_of_society.jpg)

Oh don't get me wrong, socialism's not a bad system. It has its own set of problems, however, and I feel that strongly regulated capitalism better suits the nature of humanity, i.e. to be greedy fucks whenever possible.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on November 02, 2014, 01:37:56 pm

The United States still has a basic contradiction: we accept democracy for our laws, but we tolerate a dictatorship in the workplace. Socialism at least addresses that contradiction.

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-JSnI4veZO4M/T6jD4eDY7zI/AAAAAAAABew/HJPdUYKaoDI/s1600/demand_workers_control_of_society.jpg)

Oh don't get me wrong, socialism's not a bad system. It has its own set of problems, however, and I feel that strongly regulated capitalism better suits the nature of humanity, i.e. to be greedy fucks whenever possible.

Indeed.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ironchew on November 02, 2014, 01:47:21 pm

The United States still has a basic contradiction: we accept democracy for our laws, but we tolerate a dictatorship in the workplace. Socialism at least addresses that contradiction.

(http://i.imgur.com/Eft1a2a.jpg)

Oh don't get me wrong, socialism's not a bad system. It has its own set of problems, however, and I feel that strongly regulated capitalism better suits the nature of humanity, i.e. to be greedy fucks whenever possible.

There is nothing in capitalism that addresses the plight of the working class displaced by labor automation. Basic income (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basic_income), the closest thing we have to a solution for that, is a socialist institution and, while it can interface with a market economy in the way the United States implements it as monthly Social Security income, it would make more sense to call it socialist rather than capitalist.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Eiki-mun on November 02, 2014, 01:52:50 pm
Basic income is the solution for me as well, though I still see it interfacing well with a strongly regulated form of capitalism, among other things. Call it socialist capitalism, if you will.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on November 02, 2014, 02:04:03 pm
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: I am lizard on November 02, 2014, 03:33:34 pm
Basic income is the solution for me as well, though I still see it interfacing well with a strongly regulated form of capitalism, among other things. Call it socialist capitalism, if you will.
So Canada?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Eiki-mun on November 02, 2014, 03:35:31 pm
Pretty much.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Skybison on November 02, 2014, 07:14:13 pm
For my part, I think the problem with communism isn't so much the economics, (although my limited understand is that mixed approach ala  the Nordics works better then full communism or capitalism), but the idea of changing society through a violent revolution.  Mass violence, civil war, instability etc radicalize people and play into the hands of ruthless, power hunger people who see anyone who disagrees with them as an enemy to be destroyed.  Then when the revolution succeeds you've got a country run by the people best at murdering their opponents and a population that has been through hell and wants safety and someone else to blame. 

That's not to say that violent revolution is never justified, but like any other kind of war it should be avoided unless absolutely necessary.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Random Gal on November 02, 2014, 07:59:22 pm
For my part, I think the problem with communism isn't so much the economics, (although my limited understand is that mixed approach ala  the Nordics works better then full communism or capitalism), but the idea of changing society through a violent revolution.  Mass violence, civil war, instability etc radicalize people and play into the hands of ruthless, power hunger people who see anyone who disagrees with them as an enemy to be destroyed.  Then when the revolution succeeds you've got a country run by the people best at murdering their opponents and a population that has been through hell and wants safety and someone else to blame. 

That's not to say that violent revolution is never justified, but like any other kind of war it should be avoided unless absolutely necessary.

That seems to be the outcome of most violent revolutions; chaos for a few years after the old guard is deposed, then some power-hungry douchebag takes advantage of the situation to create a dictatorship. It happened with Stalin after the Russian Revolution and with Napoleon after the French Revolution. America was one of the very few exceptions, and then only because George Washington refused the "become dictator" option.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RavynousHunter on November 02, 2014, 09:35:31 pm
Wasn't Washington basically offered the title of King, but turned it down?  Say what you want about him being a rich, white dude of the day, but at least he stuck to his principles.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Random Gal on November 03, 2014, 05:24:57 pm
That's probably a misconception (http://msuweb.montclair.edu/~furrg/gbi/docs/kingmyth.html), but if he had wanted to be king he probably could have gotten enough support to do so.

And he could well have been president-for-life if he hadn't stepped down after two terms in office as well. In fact, it's really lucky that George Washington was a genuinely nice guy who stuck to his principles; if he'd been ambitious enough, he could well have turned the United States into a self-serving dictatorship.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on November 03, 2014, 05:26:35 pm
That's probably a misconception (http://msuweb.montclair.edu/~furrg/gbi/docs/kingmyth.html), but if he had wanted to be king he probably could have gotten enough support to do so.

And he could well have been president-for-life if he hadn't stepped down after two terms in office as well. In fact, it's really lucky that George Washington was a genuinely nice guy who stuck to his principles; if he'd been ambitious enough, he could well have turned the United States into a self-serving dictatorship.

Right.

Of course, it ended up happening a couple of centuries later, but what can you do?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RavynousHunter on November 03, 2014, 07:24:58 pm
At least we have an admittedly slim chance of fixing our situation without a violent revolt or international intervention.  Proper dictatorships, more times than not, lack that option.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on November 03, 2014, 10:30:22 pm
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Veras on November 04, 2014, 12:28:23 am
That's wildly inaccurate.  Positioning and campaigning for 2016 began well before the 2014 elections.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: MadCatTLX on November 04, 2014, 12:32:22 am
I guess this fits this thread the best, despite not being a political cartoon exactly.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRwXrcz-F9M

The comments section seems to be very well behaved considering the video subject matteer.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Nemo on November 04, 2014, 10:57:01 am
(http://www.againstcronycapitalism.org/wp-content/uploads/gop-dem-cell-cc-565x473.jpg)

Hope this one works.

EDIT: It worked! Anyway, I'm not fully libertarian myself, but I do share some of their tendencies. And yes, I realize some of the things in the "prison wall" are not actually bad things at all.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: mythbuster43 on November 04, 2014, 11:45:42 am
(http://www.againstcronycapitalism.org/wp-content/uploads/gop-dem-cell-cc-565x473.jpg)

Hope this one works.

EDIT: It worked! Anyway, I'm not fully libertarian myself, but I do share some of their tendencies. And yes, I realize some of the things in the "prison wall" are not actually bad things at all.

This is probably one of the very few political cartoons with a sentiment that both the libertarians and the socialists can agree on.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Sylvana on November 05, 2014, 12:17:07 am
(http://www.againstcronycapitalism.org/wp-content/uploads/gop-dem-cell-cc-565x473.jpg)

This is probably one of the very few political cartoons with a sentiment that both the libertarians and the socialists can agree on.

The general gist of that cartoon is pretty accurate, its just the specifics of those bricks that make it a bit silly. Wipe the walls clean and it becomes a cartoon that is basically true to everyone.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: niam2023 on November 05, 2014, 12:59:20 am
Yeah, the Fluoride in Water one is particularly silly.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Sixth Monarchist on November 05, 2014, 03:27:28 pm
It gets sillier than that; there's also "chemtrails", "ATF", "Agenda 21" and "ticket cameras".
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Dakota Bob on November 05, 2014, 03:32:33 pm
Isn't Ben Garrison the guy that draws those jews with the massive noses?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on November 05, 2014, 03:45:03 pm
Isn't Ben Garrison the guy that draws those jews with the massive noses?

I think I read somewhere that those are edits.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lt. Fred on November 05, 2014, 11:49:47 pm
Hopefully this argument keeps going, it's a very interesting one. That said, it's my personal opinion that the answer lies in our much-beloved mixed economy. To me, the ideal economic system would look very similar to the United States economy - just with more regulations and less freedom for corporations to do whatever the fuck they want with our government.

The United States still has a basic contradiction: we accept democracy for our laws, but we tolerate a dictatorship in the workplace. Socialism at least addresses that contradiction.

(http://i.imgur.com/Eft1a2a.jpg)

The easy solution is strong trade unions with a lot of institutional power. If an employer tries to sack a trade union member for being one, jail
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on November 06, 2014, 12:24:22 am
The easy solution is strong trade unions with a lot of institutional power. If an employer tries to sack a trade union member for being one, jail

And the difference is... what, exactly?

If you give a union too much power, how do you stop it from basically becoming another hierarchy with a "CEO" that hoards all of the money and leverages power to basically "fire" any dissidents?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lt. Fred on November 06, 2014, 12:34:21 am
The easy solution is strong trade unions with a lot of institutional power. If an employer tries to sack a trade union member for being one, jail

And the difference is... what, exactly?

If you give a union too much power, how do you stop it from basically becoming another hierarchy with a "CEO" that hoards all of the money and leverages power to basically "fire" any dissidents?

It's pretty silly to treat a trade union like a corporation. Whenever you're talking about trade unions replace the word with workers. It's trivially easy to legislate rules that make unions authentically representative bodies of their constituent membership.

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The easy solution is strong trade unions workers with a lot of institutional power. If an employer tries to sack a trade union member for being one workers for exercising control over their place of employment, jail

Corporations exist to serve the financial interests of their membership. Unions should be more than that.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on November 06, 2014, 12:46:11 am
There's a difference between "should be" and "is".

There are abusive unions out there.  Some are almost as abusive as corporations.  Let's not kid ourselves here.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lt. Fred on November 06, 2014, 12:57:10 am
There's a difference between "should be" and "is".

There are abusive unions out there.  Some are almost as abusive as corporations.  Let's not kid ourselves here.

Like I said, it's trivially easy to design legislation that would make unions an authentic representative body. Even in the current system they're pretty good, nowhere near as bad as even the least corrupt corporation.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: R. U. Sirius on November 06, 2014, 01:02:28 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQfGTDyjVSE

Not sure if this is actually relevant to the discussion, but I found it apropos.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on November 06, 2014, 01:05:00 am
There's a difference between "should be" and "is".

There are abusive unions out there.  Some are almost as abusive as corporations.  Let's not kid ourselves here.

Like I said, it's trivially easy to design legislation that would make unions an authentic representative body. Even in the current system they're pretty good, nowhere near as bad as even the least corrupt corporation.

It would also be trivially easy to design loopholes.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lt. Fred on November 06, 2014, 01:13:29 am
There's a difference between "should be" and "is".

There are abusive unions out there.  Some are almost as abusive as corporations.  Let's not kid ourselves here.

Like I said, it's trivially easy to design legislation that would make unions an authentic representative body. Even in the current system they're pretty good, nowhere near as bad as even the least corrupt corporation.

It would also be trivially easy to design loopholes.

Crap. You create a federated system, ala Germany, where local shop-floor trade unions elect state-wide or national representatives. Elect, mind; you have weekly, paid meetings at the shop-floor level. Paid by the employer. Anyone can come, even non-members. You would have approximately 100% attendance. If you think this is pie in the sky, this is the system currently operating today right now in Germany today right now. National representatives change annually, with a term limit. All representatives must be from the shop floor. So, teacher union reps have to be teachers. For a year they stop being a teacher and are instead a rep.

Most local decisions are made by all members. The boss can't make any serious decision without union assent.

If you think this is pie in the sky, once more - this has been operating in Germany for decades. Decades. And Sweden. And Denmark.

Your cynicism is as mis-placed as it is useless.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: mellenORL on November 06, 2014, 11:00:02 am
The cynicism is based on decades of the anti-union rhetoric of plutocratic pols and pundits being blared loudly about in the U.S. main stream media. Unions=Corruption and Socializms! Commiez! has become an ingrained cultural/political backdrop "fact".

Other than a few high profile cases of union leadership corruption brought to light back in the sixties and seventies, unions back then and now have been remarkably low-key, and corporate directors traditionally saw them as a type of partner in labor efficiency management. They do, indeed, strongly express an authoritarian corporate mentality in regards to their worker members because of using full time professional reps. Not surprising. Very unfortunate, compared to the European modus.

The European labor unions have such deep, strong cultural roots in the ancient tradition of guilds, and are so common, appreciated, and well-understood by the general population, that most pols would never dare suggest outright dismantling any of them, or demonize trade unions in general as they do with impunity here.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on November 06, 2014, 11:16:09 am
Well, where there's smoke, there's fire.  The ties between labor unions and organized crime cannot be ignored.  This isn't just an American thing, either.  It's happened in France, Italy, and Japan as well.

And besides, measures must be taken to prevent tyranny of the majority.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: mellenORL on November 06, 2014, 11:34:57 am
What about the otherwise unchecked tyranny of the Corporation? Corrupt corporations and corrupt unions - both exist, but that does not mean that either or both institutions should therefor all be destroyed. Organized crime runs on a corporate mentality - hence the term, "organized". Quite a few corporations are ruthless to the point of blatant criminality, but because of their social standing, the corrupt officers are nearly never brought to justice. Fuck, they just graduate to politics! Look at Gov. Rick Scott for the perfect example. This multi-billion dollar CEO fraudster should be in the cell next to Bernie Madoff, instead, he just got re-elected the Governor of Florida, where he can and does impact the lives and well-being of 20,000,000 people.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on November 06, 2014, 11:48:28 am
What about the otherwise unchecked tyranny of the Corporation? Corrupt corporations and corrupt unions - both exist, but that does not means that either or both institutions should therefor all be destroyed. Organized crime runs on a corporate mentality - hence the term, "organized". Quite a few corporations are ruthless to the point of blatant criminality, but because of their social standing, the corrupt officers are nearly never brought to justice. Fuck, they just graduate to politics! Look at Gov. Rick Scott for the perfect example. This multi-billion dollar CEO fraudster should be in the cell next to Bernie Madoff, instead, he just got re-elected the Governor of Florida, where he can and does impact the lives and well-being of 20,000,000 people.

I never suggested dismantling unions.  And I agree, crooked businesspeople get away with far too much.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ironchew on November 06, 2014, 11:57:57 am
There's a difference between "should be" and "is".

There are abusive unions out there.  Some are almost as abusive as corporations.  Let's not kid ourselves here.

I would need some data behind that assertion. Raw numbers of the aggregate political power of all abusive unions versus the political power of all corporations. My guess is it's no contest; large corporations get 99% of what they want and all the bitching about unions is a leftover from vast amounts of anti-union propaganda.

And besides, measures must be taken to prevent tyranny of the majority.

Do you seriously believe corporations have ever suffered under the "tyranny of the majority" at any time in the United States? Ours is their plutocracy.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: I am lizard on November 06, 2014, 01:34:09 pm
Well, where there's smoke, there's fire.  The ties between labor unions and organized crime cannot be ignored. 
Forgive my ignorance, but what ties to organized crime?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on November 06, 2014, 01:53:25 pm
There's a difference between "should be" and "is".

There are abusive unions out there.  Some are almost as abusive as corporations.  Let's not kid ourselves here.

I would need some data behind that assertion. Raw numbers of the aggregate political power of all abusive unions versus the political power of all corporations. My guess is it's no contest; large corporations get 99% of what they want and all the bitching about unions is a leftover from vast amounts of anti-union propaganda.

Oh, it's no contest that corporations have a shit ton more power than unions do.  So I'm not sure why you think you're contradicting me there.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on November 06, 2014, 01:58:15 pm
Well, where there's smoke, there's fire.  The ties between labor unions and organized crime cannot be ignored. 
Forgive my ignorance, but what ties to organized crime?

Jimmy Hoffa is a good example.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lt. Fred on November 06, 2014, 03:51:43 pm
Well, where there's smoke, there's fire.  The ties between labor unions and organized crime cannot be ignored.  This isn't just an American thing, either.  It's happened in France, Italy, and Japan as well.

And besides, measures must be taken to prevent tyranny of the majority.

What about the tyranny of the minority?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on November 06, 2014, 03:52:12 pm
Well, where there's smoke, there's fire.  The ties between labor unions and organized crime cannot be ignored.  This isn't just an American thing, either.  It's happened in France, Italy, and Japan as well.

And besides, measures must be taken to prevent tyranny of the majority.

What about the tyranny of the minority?

That too.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lt. Fred on November 06, 2014, 03:53:56 pm
Well, where there's smoke, there's fire.  The ties between labor unions and organized crime cannot be ignored.  This isn't just an American thing, either.  It's happened in France, Italy, and Japan as well.

And besides, measures must be taken to prevent tyranny of the majority.

What about the tyranny of the minority?

That too.

Well, I'm a lot more concerned about that, to be frank.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: I am lizard on November 06, 2014, 05:53:20 pm
Well, where there's smoke, there's fire.  The ties between labor unions and organized crime cannot be ignored. 
Forgive my ignorance, but what ties to organized crime?

Jimmy Hoffa is a good example.
Well, sure, but could you link some DoD and FBI reports on the subject?
I mean, Jimmy Hofffa's been dead for 30+ years.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lt. Fred on November 06, 2014, 06:13:10 pm
Well, where there's smoke, there's fire.  The ties between labor unions and organized crime cannot be ignored. 
Forgive my ignorance, but what ties to organized crime?

Jimmy Hoffa is a good example.
Well, sure, but could you link some DoD and FBI reports on the subject?
I mean, Jimmy Hofffa's been dead for 30+ years.

There's totally no doubt that some trade union leaders were closely involved in old-fashioned ethnic organised crime. So was the Democratic Party.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Veras on November 08, 2014, 07:01:38 pm
Spoilered for size

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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Nemo on November 08, 2014, 10:23:19 pm
Veras,

While I do kinda like some of the stuff in that cartoon, the one about tapping phone messages is off, as that issue seems to transcend party lines. President Obama does it, and many Democratic Congressmen have no problem with it. President Bush also did it, and was supported by many Republicans. In fact, many Tea Party candidates actually do speak out against the use of warrantless wiretaps. Libertarians especially don't like it (one of my friends is a libertarian activist who founded PANDA, so I know a little about what they think).
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Veras on November 09, 2014, 11:06:14 am
Good point, but I read the cartoon as being targeted at both major parties.  There are two men wearing dollar sign armbands, just as there are two capitalist parties.  The Republicans are worse than the Democrats on most of those issues, but that does not necessarily make the Democrats right.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Sylvana on November 10, 2014, 01:14:18 am
Good point, but I read the cartoon as being targeted at both major parties.  There are two men wearing dollar sign armbands, just as there are two capitalist parties.  The Republicans are worse than the Democrats on most of those issues, but that does not necessarily make the Democrats right.

You have one party in America. Corporations. The only difference between republicans and democrats is the rate at which they abuse the American people. (although given how Obama, Mr change, is effectively worse than bush was, they are literally identical at this point.)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Sleepy on November 10, 2014, 05:22:53 pm
I realize that Obama hasn't been the greatest president so far, but I'm going to need some convincing if you say he's worse than Bush. And no, there are still major differences between the two political parties. Your views seem to be overly exaggerated.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on November 10, 2014, 10:52:52 pm
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on November 11, 2014, 12:43:42 pm
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on November 11, 2014, 02:00:51 pm
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Witchyjoshy on November 11, 2014, 05:16:05 pm
I was about to ask why he had a third arm, but then I realized it's a scarf.

...Also, mysteriously, when I clicked "new" to read the first new post in the thread, it took me to the third page of this entire thread.

I was a bit confused.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on November 12, 2014, 05:05:41 pm
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on November 14, 2014, 05:02:48 pm
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Nemo on November 15, 2014, 12:48:01 am
For what it's worth, President Obama doing anything on immigration is going to hurt him. Going around Congress will get the Republicans fired up, and even people on the fence might not like it.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Hoplite on November 15, 2014, 04:10:14 am
For what it's worth, President Obama doing anything on immigration is going to hurt him. Going around Congress will get the Republicans fired up, and even people on the fence might not like it.
Agreed. 2016 might even be an election going the Republicans' way, if the immigration issue continues or if Obama pushes it. My traditionally Blue state went for the Republicans just now based on how the majority feel about "illegal" immigrants. The Democrats probably should "cut bait" and let the Republicans run with the immigration issue, for better or worse. Otherwise the Democrats will just lose the 2016 and maybe 2018 elections by sticking to a lose-lose situation, however morally correct it was.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on November 18, 2014, 02:00:26 pm
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: I am lizard on November 19, 2014, 12:37:40 am
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on November 21, 2014, 01:02:02 pm
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Nemo on November 21, 2014, 11:13:50 pm
I'm not sure the left is really all that strong in America, or ever was. Sure, we're on the Internet and it's easy for us to sound big, but I don't think hardcore leftwingers have ever had large numbers in real life. The base of the Republican Party is rightwingers. The base of the Democratic Party is blue collar workers and minorities who may not always be excited about some of the more lofty progressive goals.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Radiation on November 25, 2014, 06:57:21 pm
I'm not sure the left is really all that strong in America, or ever was. Sure, we're on the Internet and it's easy for us to sound big, but I don't think hardcore leftwingers have ever had large numbers in real life. The base of the Republican Party is rightwingers. The base of the Democratic Party is blue collar workers and minorities who may not always be excited about some of the more lofty progressive goals.

Thing is, I don't think that those on the left really know how to organize and get into politics. Republicans and the right wing are pretty good at coming up with terms and ideologies and convincing people of them. The left needs to be able to know how to do that in order to gain popularity and get more votes.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ironchew on November 25, 2014, 08:52:11 pm
I'm not sure the left is really all that strong in America, or ever was. Sure, we're on the Internet and it's easy for us to sound big, but I don't think hardcore leftwingers have ever had large numbers in real life. The base of the Republican Party is rightwingers. The base of the Democratic Party is blue collar workers and minorities who may not always be excited about some of the more lofty progressive goals.

Thing is, I don't think that those on the left really know how to organize and get into politics. Republicans and the right wing are pretty good at coming up with terms and ideologies and convincing people of them. The left needs to be able to know how to do that in order to gain popularity and get more votes.

The right wing is willing to punish the Republican party for not being ideologically pure enough. They do this by voting out incumbents in primaries and sometimes even sabotaging Presidential races by splitting the vote between the GOP and a third party (e.g. Perot's campaign in 1992). This is a strategy that works in the long term; Democrats would be forced to adopt a more progressive party platform if Progressives had the spine to actively oppose the lesser of two evils and do it in large enough numbers to guarantee defeat for a high-profile Democratic candidate. They did this in the 1930s when the Communist party was eating into the Democratic party base and FDR was forced to appease them with policies like the New Deal.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: I am lizard on November 26, 2014, 03:47:47 pm
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on November 27, 2014, 03:13:27 pm
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on November 28, 2014, 09:29:37 am
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I'm sorry, what was that you were saying earlier?  Something about M&Ms?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ghoti on November 28, 2014, 02:49:47 pm
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I'm sorry, what was that you were saying earlier? Something about being an intellectual?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Second Coming of Madman on November 28, 2014, 02:52:15 pm
Totally not petty, you two.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on November 29, 2014, 08:54:53 am
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: I am lizard on November 29, 2014, 12:48:16 pm
Eh, the cartoon's to cluttered.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on November 29, 2014, 12:57:01 pm
It is also exaggerating everything. The jury aren't KKK and the protesters haven't burned down the city.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: mellenORL on November 29, 2014, 07:40:08 pm
The cartoonist is South African. Just another viewpoint, and maybe a little under-informed, but I think his heart was in the right place.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Hoplite on December 02, 2014, 07:29:40 am
Not a cartoon per se but since I see a well known Hollywood actor in it.... anyway, great message.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MYjyLg8bbo#t=48

Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: mellenORL on December 02, 2014, 10:51:00 am
At any given time in modern history, a Greatest Country in the World, if it ever existed according to any realistic set of statistics, would hold that number one position only briefly. With how the world works now, all within an interconnected global economy, and to an increasing extent, global policies, there never will be a Greatest Country.

Touting your country's greatness can be as benign as team pride, or as toxic as genocidal imperialism. Probably best to just forget the whole jingoistic Greatness obsession and focus instead on enlightened self interest through joint projects with other nations.

All any nation can aspire to is to be a decent fucking neighbor in the global neighborhood. Make useful things. Educate your citizens. Don't let your neighbor down the street beat and abuse their family (citizens). Don't let them starve. But don't be an over-zealous, nosey bully with a secret greedy agenda when you intervene. Volunteer to go in on big projects that make the whole neighborhood better, safer and more advanced.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Veras on December 02, 2014, 11:18:43 am
At any given time in modern history, a Greatest Country in the World, if it ever existed according to any realistic set of statistics, would hold that number one position only briefly. With how the world works now, all within an interconnected global economy, and to an increasing extent, global policies, there never will be a Greatest Country.

Touting your country's greatness can be as benign as team pride, or as toxic as genocidal imperialism. Probably best to just forget the whole jingoistic Greatness obsession and focus instead on enlightened self interest through joint projects with other nations.

All any nation can aspire to is to be a decent fucking neighbor in the global neighborhood. Make useful things. Educate your citizens. Don't let your neighbor down the street beat and abuse their family (citizens). Don't let them starve. But don't be an over-zealous, nosey bully with a secret greedy agenda when you intervene. Volunteer to go in on big projects that make the whole neighborhood better, safer and more advanced.

Damn straight.  How would you quantify "greatness" anyway?  And who is really qualified to make that judgement, without having extensively studied the languages, cultures, and histories of every nation in human history?  Someone claiming that their country is the greatest in the world is like a toddler saying that they have the best mommy in the world.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on December 02, 2014, 11:38:38 am
At any given time in modern history, a Greatest Country in the World, if it ever existed according to any realistic set of statistics, would hold that number one position only briefly. With how the world works now, all within an interconnected global economy, and to an increasing extent, global policies, there never will be a Greatest Country.

Touting your country's greatness can be as benign as team pride, or as toxic as genocidal imperialism. Probably best to just forget the whole jingoistic Greatness obsession and focus instead on enlightened self interest through joint projects with other nations.

All any nation can aspire to is to be a decent fucking neighbor in the global neighborhood. Make useful things. Educate your citizens. Don't let your neighbor down the street beat and abuse their family (citizens). Don't let them starve. But don't be an over-zealous, nosey bully with a secret greedy agenda when you intervene. Volunteer to go in on big projects that make the whole neighborhood better, safer and more advanced.

Damn straight.  How would you quantify "greatness" anyway?  And who is really qualified to make that judgement, without having extensively studied the languages, cultures, and histories of every nation in human history?  Someone claiming that their country is the greatest in the world is like a toddler saying that they have the best mommy in the world.

Jingoism is to patriotism as communism is to socialism.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cerim Treascair on December 02, 2014, 05:15:43 pm
I'm reminded of a line from the antagonist of the fantastic Chris Rock movie 'Head Of State', in regards to those convinced of their country's exceptionalism compared to all others:  "God Bless America, and no place else!"
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on December 03, 2014, 04:21:37 am
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on December 04, 2014, 09:44:44 am
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on December 05, 2014, 08:56:07 am
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ghoti on December 06, 2014, 12:37:19 am
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Two questions:
1. Why do all these people look incredibly stupid?
2. What the hell is this cartoon trying to say?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: R. U. Sirius on December 06, 2014, 12:58:24 am
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Two questions:
1. Why do all these people look incredibly stupid?
2. What the hell is this cartoon trying to say?

Can't answer to the stupid thing, but I think the point is that, for all the talk about race relations in the U.S., how to improve them, etc., almost all of the "dialogue" is between people who happen to be of the same race. There's still not a lot of actual interracial dialogue.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: SCarpelan on December 06, 2014, 03:13:54 am
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Two questions:
1. Why do all these people look incredibly stupid?
2. What the hell is this cartoon trying to say?

Can't answer to the stupid thing, but I think the point is that, for all the talk about race relations in the U.S., how to improve them, etc., almost all of the "dialogue" is between people who happen to be of the same race. There's still not a lot of actual interracial dialogue.
To me it seems the image would be more accurate if some of the black people had megaphones and tried to shout at the white people to get their attention while being completely ignored. On the other hand, I might be wrong about this since I follow the situation only superficially from far away.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: mellenORL on December 06, 2014, 10:48:17 am
There really is a terrible lack of dialogue between ethnicities here. How many U.S. whites have actual, genuine friends who are black, outside of co-workers, fellow students and maybe some neighbors? Other than in more or less public spaces, there is shockingly little interaction on a day-to-day, truly social peer level. I read an article linked somewhere on another thread that showed that even online social networking is surprisingly segregated for most whites. Sure, probably all of us on this forum have RL and FB friends of different races, but that is not the norm for about 75% of white FB users in America, and I wonder if a significant percentage of black FB users have no whites on their friends list, too.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on December 06, 2014, 05:45:32 pm
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: I am lizard on December 06, 2014, 05:54:52 pm
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Actually, from what I can tell most radical feminist tend to harm women more than men (SWEFS, TERFS, ect.) similarly to how most victims of the French Revolution were peasants.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on December 06, 2014, 06:28:50 pm
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Actually, from what I can tell most radical feminist tend to harm women more than men (SWEFS, TERFS, ect.) similarly to how most victims of the French Revolution were peasants.

I'm not entirely sure if that's true, but radical feminism's negative impact on hookers and trans* people is still worthy of discussion.

Or maybe that's a gigolo or a transwoman she's getting ready to kill.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: I am lizard on December 06, 2014, 07:35:30 pm
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Actually, from what I can tell most radical feminist tend to harm women more than men (SWEFS, TERFS, ect.) similarly to how most victims of the French Revolution were peasants.

I'm not entirely sure if that's true, but radical feminism's negative impact on hookers and trans* people is still worthy of discussion.

Or maybe that's a gigolo or a transwoman she's getting ready to kill.
Either way the radical feminist movement is stupid and destructive. 
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ironchew on December 06, 2014, 09:24:29 pm
Either way the radical feminist movement is stupid and destructive.

Are there really enough of them to make a big deal about it?

Sounds like the elusive feminazis to me...
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: I am lizard on December 06, 2014, 09:52:45 pm
Either way the radical feminist movement is stupid and destructive.

Are there really enough of them to make a big deal about it?
No, not really.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on December 06, 2014, 10:05:04 pm
Either way the radical feminist movement is stupid and destructive.

Are there really enough of them to make a big deal about it?

Sounds like the elusive feminazis to me...

Does it matter?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ironchew on December 06, 2014, 10:49:04 pm
Either way the radical feminist movement is stupid and destructive.

Are there really enough of them to make a big deal about it?

Sounds like the elusive feminazis to me...

Does it matter?

I'm not entirely sure if that's true, but radical feminism's negative impact on hookers and trans* people is still worthy of discussion.

There are actual institutions with state backing that are harming these groups and I would rather focus my attention on those than worry about a boogeyman one step removed from feminazis.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Tolpuddle Martyr on December 07, 2014, 03:23:52 am
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Actually, from what I can tell most radical feminist tend to harm women more than men (SWEFS, TERFS, ect.) similarly to how most victims of the French Revolution were peasants.

I'm not entirely sure if that's true, but radical feminism's negative impact on hookers and trans* people is still worthy of discussion.

Or maybe that's a gigolo or a transwoman she's getting ready to kill.
Either way the radical feminist movement is stupid and destructive.

Reminds me of the old RadfemHub quotes that used to appear on FSTDT.

Does this ideology actually count as feminism though? Aren't the more gender supremacists in the vein of Vox Day?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on December 07, 2014, 07:29:35 pm
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Yla on December 08, 2014, 11:02:03 am
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Resounding meh.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on December 09, 2014, 06:05:37 am
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: I am lizard on December 11, 2014, 10:59:08 am
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: guizonde on December 11, 2014, 11:18:13 am
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i don't see how that's good. but perhaps i'm being a bit harsh, on account of the fact that i don't believe in the concept of racism (xenophobia, on the other hand is a huge problem). you see, admitting that there is a concept of "racism" is admitting that there are different races of humans. there are none anymore (for example, neanderthal was a different race, but they're extinct). this cartoon is a bunch of strawmen. what should be done is adress the root cause instead of decrying those fallacies.

10 is a moot point. it's over and done, get over it. the more defensive you are, the guiltier you look.
9 is bull. it's not ok to criticize anyone based on origins.
8 is false, seeing as xenophobia is still rampant worldwide.
7 is a no true scotsman.
6 is too near-sighted. let's talk "racism", not "racism against x". target the big problem, not the details.
5 what. cultural myopia combined with political correctness gone silly?
4 it does distract from the point, but it is related, so no, it's not unfair. immigration is a problem: humans should go wherever they feel like going.
3 bull. unless you're a goddamned blessed handyman, give credit where credit is due.
2 no true scotsman.
1 good for you, that however doesn't discount you from helping to kill racism and xenophobia. that's what i'm doing right now.

this comic is as racist as anything: just flip the race card around and it applies to any background. that, and it's racist by recognizing whites as a race. it's not. i'd move this to "worst political cartoons", truth be told.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on December 11, 2014, 11:25:31 am
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i don't see how that's good. but perhaps i'm being a bit harsh, on account of the fact that i don't believe in the concept of racism (xenophobia, on the other hand is a huge problem). you see, admitting that there is a concept of "racism" is admitting that there are different races of humans. there are none anymore (for example, neanderthal was a different race, but they're extinct). this cartoon is a bunch of strawmen. what should be done is adress the root cause instead of decrying those fallacies.

10 is a moot point. it's over and done, get over it. the more defensive you are, the guiltier you look.
9 is bull. it's not ok to criticize anyone based on origins.
8 is false, seeing as xenophobia is still rampant worldwide.
7 is a no true scotsman.
6 is too near-sighted. let's talk "racism", not "racism against x". target the big problem, not the details.
5 what. cultural myopia combined with political correctness gone silly?
4 it does distract from the point, but it is related, so no, it's not unfair. immigration is a problem: humans should go wherever they feel like going.
3 bull. unless you're a goddamned blessed handyman, give credit where credit is due.
2 no true scotsman.
1 good for you, that however doesn't discount you from helping to kill racism and xenophobia. that's what i'm doing right now.

this comic is as racist as anything: just flip the race card around and it applies to any background. that, and it's racist by recognizing whites as a race. it's not. i'd move this to "worst political cartoons", truth be told.

...I think you're really missing the point.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: guizonde on December 11, 2014, 11:28:35 am
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i don't see how that's good. but perhaps i'm being a bit harsh, on account of the fact that i don't believe in the concept of racism (xenophobia, on the other hand is a huge problem). you see, admitting that there is a concept of "racism" is admitting that there are different races of humans. there are none anymore (for example, neanderthal was a different race, but they're extinct). this cartoon is a bunch of strawmen. what should be done is adress the root cause instead of decrying those fallacies.

10 is a moot point. it's over and done, get over it. the more defensive you are, the guiltier you look.
9 is bull. it's not ok to criticize anyone based on origins.
8 is false, seeing as xenophobia is still rampant worldwide.
7 is a no true scotsman.
6 is too near-sighted. let's talk "racism", not "racism against x". target the big problem, not the details.
5 what. cultural myopia combined with political correctness gone silly?
4 it does distract from the point, but it is related, so no, it's not unfair. immigration is a problem: humans should go wherever they feel like going.
3 bull. unless you're a goddamned blessed handyman, give credit where credit is due.
2 no true scotsman.
1 good for you, that however doesn't discount you from helping to kill racism and xenophobia. that's what i'm doing right now.

this comic is as racist as anything: just flip the race card around and it applies to any background. that, and it's racist by recognizing whites as a race. it's not. i'd move this to "worst political cartoons", truth be told.

...I think you're really missing the point.

nah, felt like raging tumblr-style. but imagine not believing in race like i do and seeing humans tear each other apart. it would rankle for you too.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on December 11, 2014, 11:30:53 am
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i don't see how that's good. but perhaps i'm being a bit harsh, on account of the fact that i don't believe in the concept of racism (xenophobia, on the other hand is a huge problem). you see, admitting that there is a concept of "racism" is admitting that there are different races of humans. there are none anymore (for example, neanderthal was a different race, but they're extinct). this cartoon is a bunch of strawmen. what should be done is adress the root cause instead of decrying those fallacies.

10 is a moot point. it's over and done, get over it. the more defensive you are, the guiltier you look.
9 is bull. it's not ok to criticize anyone based on origins.
8 is false, seeing as xenophobia is still rampant worldwide.
7 is a no true scotsman.
6 is too near-sighted. let's talk "racism", not "racism against x". target the big problem, not the details.
5 what. cultural myopia combined with political correctness gone silly?
4 it does distract from the point, but it is related, so no, it's not unfair. immigration is a problem: humans should go wherever they feel like going.
3 bull. unless you're a goddamned blessed handyman, give credit where credit is due.
2 no true scotsman.
1 good for you, that however doesn't discount you from helping to kill racism and xenophobia. that's what i'm doing right now.

this comic is as racist as anything: just flip the race card around and it applies to any background. that, and it's racist by recognizing whites as a race. it's not. i'd move this to "worst political cartoons", truth be told.

...I think you're really missing the point.

nah, felt like raging tumblr-style. but imagine not believing in race like i do and seeing humans tear each other apart. it would rankle for you too.

On a side note, I find that random bolding to be kinda funny.  I can't help but imagine these guys talking like William Shatner.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Sigmaleph on December 11, 2014, 12:54:12 pm
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i don't see how that's good. but perhaps i'm being a bit harsh, on account of the fact that i don't believe in the concept of racism (xenophobia, on the other hand is a huge problem). you see, admitting that there is a concept of "racism" is admitting that there are different races of humans. there are none anymore (for example, neanderthal was a different race, but they're extinct). this cartoon is a bunch of strawmen. what should be done is adress the root cause instead of decrying those fallacies.

Except that, y'know, racism is real and there are different races of humans in the relevant sense.

One can argue about whether "race" corresponds to a biologically meaningful concept like "species" or "subspecies" or whatever. I'll leave that to the biologists. But it is a simple empirical fact that there are groups of people with some ethnically related traits, be it shape of eyes or melanin content or something else*. And people treat other people differently based on which groups they belong to. The argument that it's not really racism because you choose to define race as "subspecies" is semantics. The word has a clear meaning in common usage; that it doesn't match the "subspecies" definition is a problem with that definition, not proof that the concept doesn't exist.

*not necessarily sharply distinguished groups, there are obviously going to be edge cases, but that doesn't change the argument.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: guizonde on December 11, 2014, 01:09:48 pm
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i don't see how that's good. but perhaps i'm being a bit harsh, on account of the fact that i don't believe in the concept of racism (xenophobia, on the other hand is a huge problem). you see, admitting that there is a concept of "racism" is admitting that there are different races of humans. there are none anymore (for example, neanderthal was a different race, but they're extinct). this cartoon is a bunch of strawmen. what should be done is adress the root cause instead of decrying those fallacies.

Except that, y'know, racism is real and there are different races of humans in the relevant sense.

One can argue about whether "race" corresponds to a biologically meaningful concept like "species" or "subspecies" or whatever. I'll leave that to the biologists. But it is a simple empirical fact that there are groups of people with some ethnically related traits, be it shape of eyes or melanin content or something else*. And people treat other people differently based on which groups they belong to. The argument that it's not really racism because you choose to define race as "subspecies" is semantics. The word has a clear meaning in common usage; that it doesn't match the "subspecies" definition is a problem with that definition, not proof that the concept doesn't exist.

*not necessarily sharply distinguished groups, there are obviously going to be edge cases, but that doesn't change the argument.

indeed, it is semantics, yet therein lies the problem: if we attack the root cause as different "races", then it implies that people are indeed different, whereas if we attack the problem the same way as we fight xenophobia (which it is), then it's easier to handle. for instance, culture shock and fear of the unknown are the root causes of xenophobia, and we can fight that. how do you want to fight a problem that boils down to "i don't like him 'cause he's black"? you can't, so you change your angle of attack. that's what i'm getting at. sigma, you of all people know that words have power. let's drop the pretense that racism is a thing and call it for what it is: xenophobia. sure, it's not ideal (we're on earth and not pixie-land), but at least let's destroy an ennemy we can fight. once xenophobia is curbed, racism will go down as well incidentally.

i'm not being a douche about this, i'm choosing my fights, even if they're tangential, they get the job done in a roundabout way. this comes from a study a friend made in sociology trying to come up with accurate figures of racists. turns out people who study other cultures end up less racist, even if it's for one semester. knowing others is a key to kill xenophobia, and once the fear is gone, the prejudice is too.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Sigmaleph on December 11, 2014, 02:10:53 pm
indeed, it is semantics, yet therein lies the problem: if we attack the root cause as different "races", then it implies that people are indeed different, whereas if we attack the problem the same way as we fight xenophobia (which it is), then it's easier to handle. for instance, culture shock and fear of the unknown are the root causes of xenophobia, and we can fight that. how do you want to fight a problem that boils down to "i don't like him 'cause he's black"? you can't, so you change your angle of attack. that's what i'm getting at. sigma, you of all people know that words have power. let's drop the pretense that racism is a thing and call it for what it is: xenophobia. sure, it's not ideal (we're on earth and not pixie-land), but at least let's destroy an ennemy we can fight. once xenophobia is curbed, racism will go down as well incidentally.

Hmm. I disagree with your terminology, but I mostly agree with your plan of action.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: guizonde on December 11, 2014, 03:12:52 pm
indeed, it is semantics, yet therein lies the problem: if we attack the root cause as different "races", then it implies that people are indeed different, whereas if we attack the problem the same way as we fight xenophobia (which it is), then it's easier to handle. for instance, culture shock and fear of the unknown are the root causes of xenophobia, and we can fight that. how do you want to fight a problem that boils down to "i don't like him 'cause he's black"? you can't, so you change your angle of attack. that's what i'm getting at. sigma, you of all people know that words have power. let's drop the pretense that racism is a thing and call it for what it is: xenophobia. sure, it's not ideal (we're on earth and not pixie-land), but at least let's destroy an ennemy we can fight. once xenophobia is curbed, racism will go down as well incidentally.

Hmm. I disagree with your terminology, but I mostly agree with your plan of action.

fair enough, at least we agree on the important bits, that's what matters.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: guizonde on December 12, 2014, 08:45:31 am
(http://img-9gag-ftw.9cache.com/photo/aEGZY1o_700b.jpg)

sorry for the double post, this made me chuckle, especially as i enjoy screaming near political activists that the real enemy is the enemy within... i'm a bad person.

edit: i had a dumb and fixed it.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Damen on December 12, 2014, 10:28:51 am
Cartoons that spark a discussion? Interesting.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on December 15, 2014, 06:05:18 pm
(http://media.cagle.com/16/2014/12/15/157434_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on December 17, 2014, 02:53:36 am
(http://40.media.tumblr.com/84ac35a9e9bb1bdb92a8de6ddcf05f67/tumblr_ngoupbedgW1qz9bu3o1_1280.png)
(http://41.media.tumblr.com/f58429ef5d80f6b11ee27073f2785977/tumblr_ngjfmxvce11r55d2io1_1280.jpg)
Quote from: George W Bush
He can’t have it both ways. He can’t take the high horse and then claim the low road.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on December 19, 2014, 10:06:18 am
(http://chuckleaduck.com/comics/2014-12-18CADOnlyThingToFear.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on December 21, 2014, 06:45:47 pm
(http://oi58.tinypic.com/14br7p.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: guizonde on December 21, 2014, 07:10:22 pm
(http://oi58.tinypic.com/14br7p.jpg)

would "enhanced political activism" be a brick to the face? i hate those people.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lt. Fred on December 24, 2014, 05:48:37 am
(http://oi58.tinypic.com/14br7p.jpg)

would "enhanced political activism" be a brick to the face? i hate those people.

Homestead, surely? Or Kent State?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: R. U. Sirius on December 24, 2014, 12:25:19 pm
(http://oi58.tinypic.com/14br7p.jpg)

would "enhanced political activism" be a brick to the face? i hate those people.

Homestead, surely? Or Kent State?

Police constantly getting away with unnecessary violence and brutality: "enhanced law enforcement."
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: I am lizard on December 24, 2014, 01:28:41 pm
(http://oi58.tinypic.com/14br7p.jpg)

would "enhanced political activism" be a brick to the face? i hate those people.
Huh?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ironchew on December 24, 2014, 01:54:55 pm
would "enhanced political activism" be a brick to the face? i hate those people.

"Enhanced political activism" would be the COINTELPRO assassinations.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on December 28, 2014, 02:23:32 pm
(http://oi58.tinypic.com/2lk2vjs.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: I am lizard on December 31, 2014, 12:46:04 am
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on January 01, 2015, 06:37:28 pm
(http://media.cagle.com/82/2014/12/31/158088_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on January 04, 2015, 10:17:50 pm
(http://oi58.tinypic.com/2e5nkno.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: guizonde on January 06, 2015, 07:32:05 pm
(http://img-9gag-ftw.9cache.com/photo/aYpBG4x_700b.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on January 07, 2015, 09:25:30 am
(http://oi60.tinypic.com/ws5n3n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: lord gibbon on January 07, 2015, 08:10:19 pm
Clever, though I think it'd be better without the second guy.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: SCarpelan on January 07, 2015, 08:12:59 pm
(http://i62.tinypic.com/2mpbic5.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on January 07, 2015, 08:23:17 pm
(http://oi61.tinypic.com/65xxqf.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: guizonde on January 07, 2015, 08:31:22 pm
my friend's dad published this like 20 minutes ago:

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: mellenORL on January 07, 2015, 08:34:51 pm
Excellent!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on January 07, 2015, 08:36:19 pm
(http://oi60.tinypic.com/20j2z5x.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: guizonde on January 07, 2015, 09:12:26 pm
(click to show/hide)

a 9gag compilation of (mostly french) cartoons about the massacre.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on January 08, 2015, 04:35:42 am
So many variations on the same message.

(https://d262ilb51hltx0.cloudfront.net/max/1020/1*nc1rhTFzWYWhdNl2GdM6oA.png)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: guizonde on January 08, 2015, 07:43:25 am
(http://img-9gag-ftw.9cache.com/photo/aDw5yrN_700b_v1.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on January 08, 2015, 11:13:14 am
(http://oi61.tinypic.com/xqcltd.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on January 11, 2015, 11:33:32 am
(http://img-9gag-ftw.9cache.com/photo/a9MGz81_700b.jpg)

EDIT:

(http://img-9gag-ftw.9cache.com/photo/aZW5ze0_700b.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: mellenORL on January 11, 2015, 12:12:48 pm
Yeah, that "We're gonna do a work slow down - RAWR!!" thing shows just how brutally clueless a majority in the NYPD have become.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: I am lizard on January 12, 2015, 12:54:49 am
.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on January 12, 2015, 06:22:04 pm
(http://oi60.tinypic.com/2n6fcys.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: I am lizard on January 12, 2015, 06:24:15 pm
(http://41.media.tumblr.com/268176b4195e4fd6368c32612273dc3b/tumblr_nhx4kdKi8z1rr5t33o1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on January 13, 2015, 01:08:41 am
Yet more comics about the same incident.

(http://hs13.snstatic.fi/webkuva/sarjis/560/1305916718453?ts=766)

Translation "We may be virgins but we are not desperate."

And of course the newest number from Charlie Hebo:

(http://static.iltalehti.fi/ulkomaat/hebdo1301PK_820_ul.jpg)
"All is forgiven"
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: guizonde on January 13, 2015, 08:25:27 am
for the first time in forever, charlie hebdo is going to print 3 million papers, translated in 15 languages. and guess what? some idiots still think it's an offensive representation of the prophet.

still, good on charlie. might save them financially.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: R. U. Sirius on January 13, 2015, 09:42:13 am
for the first time in forever, charlie hebdo is going to print 3 million papers, translated in 15 languages. and guess what? some idiots still think it's an offensive representation of the prophet.

still, good on charlie. might save them financially.

I dunno...someone on Imgur pointed out that Muhammad's head in that pic looks distinctly like a cock and balls.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on January 13, 2015, 09:44:12 am
I dunno...someone on Imgur pointed out that Muhammad's head in that pic looks distinctly like a cock and balls.
I think that is just a coincidence and whoever thinks that just has a dirty mind or wants to see hidden images in everything.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: ironbite on January 13, 2015, 04:54:17 pm
No man...it's a cock and balls.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on January 13, 2015, 09:06:02 pm
(http://img-9gag-ftw.9cache.com/photo/azLWgNb_700b.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on January 14, 2015, 01:22:53 am
I like the Mohammed cartoons where he's a sympathetic character who's sick of the nuts killing in his name. If I "Drew Mohammed" in protest, that would be my approach.

The ones about "The Pen/Pencil/Brush Is Mightier Than The Sword" is great, too.

Hello, I'm back with a new look, name and attitude. No more crazy from me. I'm ashamed of how I was last time.

Happy New year, everyone! How's everything? Startin' fresh here.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: guizonde on January 14, 2015, 05:41:45 am
Hello, I'm back with a new look, name and attitude. No more crazy from me. I'm ashamed of how I was last time.

Happy New year, everyone! How's everything? Startin' fresh here.

yay! welcome back, spuki!  :)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on January 14, 2015, 09:15:46 am
I like the Mohammed cartoons where he's a sympathetic character who's sick of the nuts killing in his name. If I "Drew Mohammed" in protest, that would be my approach.

The ones about "The Pen/Pencil/Brush Is Mightier Than The Sword" is great, too.

Hello, I'm back with a new look, name and attitude. No more crazy from me. I'm ashamed of how I was last time.

Happy New year, everyone! How's everything? Startin' fresh here.

It's great to see you again!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: mellenORL on January 14, 2015, 10:05:53 am
Yay! Welcome back, Spuki....and from now on I'll say Barbarella. Cool avi.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Sigmaleph on January 14, 2015, 12:21:06 pm
Yeah, that "We're gonna do a work slow down - RAWR!!" thing shows just how brutally clueless a majority in the NYPD have become.

This has been bugging me for a while, until someone (http://slatestarscratchpad.tumblr.com/post/108074540166/darvinasafo-my-thoughts-exactly-1-crime) pointed out the (in hindsight) obvious:

Quote
Most important, the NYPD hasn’t “proved the opposite” of why they’re needed. They’re not trying to prove anything to the average citizen. What they’re trying to do is prove to the mayor and city government that they’re needed - and the reason the mayor and city government need them is that the fines they collect for minor offenses make up a lot of the city’s revenue. They’re probably doing a perfectly good job of proving to the mayor that he needs them for this. Our opinions are irrelevant.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on January 14, 2015, 01:50:31 pm
Hello, I'm back with a new look, name and attitude. No more crazy from me. I'm ashamed of how I was last time.

Happy New year, everyone! How's everything? Startin' fresh here.

yay! welcome back, spuki!  :)
I like the Mohammed cartoons where he's a sympathetic character who's sick of the nuts killing in his name. If I "Drew Mohammed" in protest, that would be my approach.

The ones about "The Pen/Pencil/Brush Is Mightier Than The Sword" is great, too.

Hello, I'm back with a new look, name and attitude. No more crazy from me. I'm ashamed of how I was last time.

Happy New year, everyone! How's everything? Startin' fresh here.

It's great to see you again!
Yay! Welcome back, Spuki....and from now on I'll say Barbarella. Cool avi.


Thanks. I'm going to try extra-hard not to act like a nut. Glad to be here.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: mellenORL on January 14, 2015, 02:19:58 pm
Yeah, that "We're gonna do a work slow down - RAWR!!" thing shows just how brutally clueless a majority in the NYPD have become.

This has been bugging me for a while, until someone (http://slatestarscratchpad.tumblr.com/post/108074540166/darvinasafo-my-thoughts-exactly-1-crime) pointed out the (in hindsight) obvious:

Quote
Most important, the NYPD hasn’t “proved the opposite” of why they’re needed. They’re not trying to prove anything to the average citizen. What they’re trying to do is prove to the mayor and city government that they’re needed - and the reason the mayor and city government need them is that the fines they collect for minor offenses make up a lot of the city’s revenue. They’re probably doing a perfectly good job of proving to the mayor that he needs them for this. Our opinions are irrelevant.

True, and it points out that the city has come to depend on the police essentially mugging citizens to get that income. And yet, I'd be curious to see by how much savings from fewer jail inmates to support offsets the current drop in fine revenue.

Need to find the fines revenue figures first, but there's a possible cost per inmate per year report of $168,000, or $460 a day per inmate. A big chunk of that would be labor and infrastructure overhead.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/24/nyregion/citys-annual-cost-per-inmate-is-nearly-168000-study-says.html?_r=0 (http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/24/nyregion/citys-annual-cost-per-inmate-is-nearly-168000-study-says.html?_r=0)

I did find an article on NYC's IBO (Independent Budget Office) that discusses fine income in general, without delineating the fines generated by criminal charges or the stop and frisk crap that has so many people outraged.

http://ibo.nyc.ny.us/cgi-park/?p=733 (http://ibo.nyc.ny.us/cgi-park/?p=733)

Since the current NYPD slowdown includes the cops not ticketing for parking violations and littering, etc., the income loss for the City must be huge atm.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: SpaceProg on January 14, 2015, 03:19:29 pm
Hello, I'm back with a new look, name and attitude. No more crazy from me. I'm ashamed of how I was last time.

Happy New year, everyone! How's everything? Startin' fresh here.

Welcome back.  Happy new year to you too. :)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Svata on January 14, 2015, 03:40:40 pm
As everyone else has said, welcome back.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: I am lizard on January 14, 2015, 06:19:58 pm
Yeah, that "We're gonna do a work slow down - RAWR!!" thing shows just how brutally clueless a majority in the NYPD have become.

This has been bugging me for a while, until someone (http://slatestarscratchpad.tumblr.com/post/108074540166/darvinasafo-my-thoughts-exactly-1-crime) pointed out the (in hindsight) obvious:

Quote
Most important, the NYPD hasn’t “proved the opposite” of why they’re needed. They’re not trying to prove anything to the average citizen. What they’re trying to do is prove to the mayor and city government that they’re needed - and the reason the mayor and city government need them is that the fines they collect for minor offenses make up a lot of the city’s revenue. They’re probably doing a perfectly good job of proving to the mayor that he needs them for this. Our opinions are irrelevant.
Geez, the mayor will need to start making budget cuts because of this.
To bad there isn't some department with a massively inflated budget, perhaps one that routinly gets APCs and grenade launchers...
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on January 14, 2015, 09:09:46 pm
(http://oi62.tinypic.com/9jkn7s.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Sigmaleph on January 14, 2015, 09:40:37 pm
Yeah, that "We're gonna do a work slow down - RAWR!!" thing shows just how brutally clueless a majority in the NYPD have become.

This has been bugging me for a while, until someone (http://slatestarscratchpad.tumblr.com/post/108074540166/darvinasafo-my-thoughts-exactly-1-crime) pointed out the (in hindsight) obvious:

Quote
Most important, the NYPD hasn’t “proved the opposite” of why they’re needed. They’re not trying to prove anything to the average citizen. What they’re trying to do is prove to the mayor and city government that they’re needed - and the reason the mayor and city government need them is that the fines they collect for minor offenses make up a lot of the city’s revenue. They’re probably doing a perfectly good job of proving to the mayor that he needs them for this. Our opinions are irrelevant.
Geez, the mayor will need to start making budget cuts because of this.
To bad there isn't some department with a massively inflated budget, perhaps one that routinly gets APCs and grenade launchers...

The military? Because they are the ones providing their excess equipment to the police.

And while reducing their budget sounds like a great idea, I'm pretty sure the mayor can't do that.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: I am lizard on January 14, 2015, 10:34:46 pm
Yeah, that "We're gonna do a work slow down - RAWR!!" thing shows just how brutally clueless a majority in the NYPD have become.

This has been bugging me for a while, until someone (http://slatestarscratchpad.tumblr.com/post/108074540166/darvinasafo-my-thoughts-exactly-1-crime) pointed out the (in hindsight) obvious:

Quote
Most important, the NYPD hasn’t “proved the opposite” of why they’re needed. They’re not trying to prove anything to the average citizen. What they’re trying to do is prove to the mayor and city government that they’re needed - and the reason the mayor and city government need them is that the fines they collect for minor offenses make up a lot of the city’s revenue. They’re probably doing a perfectly good job of proving to the mayor that he needs them for this. Our opinions are irrelevant.
Geez, the mayor will need to start making budget cuts because of this.
To bad there isn't some department with a massively inflated budget, perhaps one that routinly gets APCs and grenade launchers...

The military? Because they are the ones providing their excess equipment to the police.

And while reducing their budget sounds like a great idea, I'm pretty sure the mayor can't do that.
1. The NYPD has an annual budget of 4 billion dollars.

2. Sadly true.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on January 14, 2015, 11:28:25 pm
Yeah, that "We're gonna do a work slow down - RAWR!!" thing shows just how brutally clueless a majority in the NYPD have become.

This has been bugging me for a while, until someone (http://slatestarscratchpad.tumblr.com/post/108074540166/darvinasafo-my-thoughts-exactly-1-crime) pointed out the (in hindsight) obvious:

Quote
Most important, the NYPD hasn’t “proved the opposite” of why they’re needed. They’re not trying to prove anything to the average citizen. What they’re trying to do is prove to the mayor and city government that they’re needed - and the reason the mayor and city government need them is that the fines they collect for minor offenses make up a lot of the city’s revenue. They’re probably doing a perfectly good job of proving to the mayor that he needs them for this. Our opinions are irrelevant.
Geez, the mayor will need to start making budget cuts because of this.
To bad there isn't some department with a massively inflated budget, perhaps one that routinly gets APCs and grenade launchers...

The military? Because they are the ones providing their excess equipment to the police.

And while reducing their budget sounds like a great idea, I'm pretty sure the mayor can't do that.
1. The NYPD has an annual budget of 4 billion dollars.

2. Sadly true.

Sad thing is, the military doesn't even want the money Congress is lavishing on them.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on January 15, 2015, 01:16:00 am
Yeah, that "We're gonna do a work slow down - RAWR!!" thing shows just how brutally clueless a majority in the NYPD have become.

This has been bugging me for a while, until someone (http://slatestarscratchpad.tumblr.com/post/108074540166/darvinasafo-my-thoughts-exactly-1-crime) pointed out the (in hindsight) obvious:

Quote
Most important, the NYPD hasn’t “proved the opposite” of why they’re needed. They’re not trying to prove anything to the average citizen. What they’re trying to do is prove to the mayor and city government that they’re needed - and the reason the mayor and city government need them is that the fines they collect for minor offenses make up a lot of the city’s revenue. They’re probably doing a perfectly good job of proving to the mayor that he needs them for this. Our opinions are irrelevant.
Geez, the mayor will need to start making budget cuts because of this.
To bad there isn't some department with a massively inflated budget, perhaps one that routinly gets APCs and grenade launchers...

The military? Because they are the ones providing their excess equipment to the police.

And while reducing their budget sounds like a great idea, I'm pretty sure the mayor can't do that.
1. The NYPD has an annual budget of 4 billion dollars.

2. Sadly true.

Sad thing is, the military doesn't even want the money Congress is lavishing on them.
The congress is throwing money and vehicles at the military because they want the money to go to the manufacturers and the military is forced to mothball brand new tanks and planes that they don't need.

...Although the marines are still using outdated stuff and have to wait for scraps from the other branches if I have understood correctly.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on January 15, 2015, 08:33:48 pm
(http://img-9gag-ftw.9cache.com/photo/a49XgzZ_700b.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on January 16, 2015, 05:15:59 am
Not quite a cartoon but a collection of remarks by Putin about other countries (some may have only been implied.)

(https://scontent-b-fra.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/10358877_10153066266369797_7114100561807977382_n.jpg?oh=edfaf36b59fae168267a12479d500a36&oe=5537761F)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on January 16, 2015, 03:10:32 pm
Not quite a cartoon but a collection of remarks by Putin about other countries (some may have only been implied.)

(https://scontent-b-fra.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/10358877_10153066266369797_7114100561807977382_n.jpg?oh=edfaf36b59fae168267a12479d500a36&oe=5537761F)

I gotta get those "Atlas of Prejudice" books. Looks very interesting.

Love the names of the seas & oceans.

Methinks Putin...ahem..."Doth protesteth too much"...if you get my drift?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: I am lizard on January 16, 2015, 07:22:03 pm
(http://media.dcentertainment.com/sites/default/files/imce/2015/01-JAN/MAD-Magazine-Charlie-Hebdo-1_54b0ad7faf0647.39756961.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on January 17, 2015, 09:13:31 pm
Not quite a cartoon but a collection of remarks by Putin about other countries (some may have only been implied.)

(https://scontent-b-fra.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/10358877_10153066266369797_7114100561807977382_n.jpg?oh=edfaf36b59fae168267a12479d500a36&oe=5537761F)

I gotta get those "Atlas of Prejudice" books. Looks very interesting.

Love the names of the seas & oceans.

Methinks Putin...ahem..."Doth protesteth too much"...if you get my drift?

I wonder how wide his stance is.   ;)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on January 19, 2015, 12:24:27 am
Not quite a cartoon but a collection of remarks by Putin about other countries (some may have only been implied.)

(https://scontent-b-fra.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/10358877_10153066266369797_7114100561807977382_n.jpg?oh=edfaf36b59fae168267a12479d500a36&oe=5537761F)

I gotta get those "Atlas of Prejudice" books. Looks very interesting.

Love the names of the seas & oceans.

Methinks Putin...ahem..."Doth protesteth too much"...if you get my drift?

I wonder how wide his stance is.   ;)

LOL!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: jackdaw on January 20, 2015, 04:30:37 am
(http://media.nzherald.co.nz/webcontent/image/jpg/20153/cartoo2.jpg)

(http://media.nzherald.co.nz/webcontent/image/jpg/20152/CHARLIE.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on January 23, 2015, 09:38:09 am
(http://i.imgur.com/JQbjM1x.gif)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: R. U. Sirius on January 23, 2015, 01:34:37 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/JQbjM1x.gif)

For all the shit he pulled, Henry Ford did get one thing right...he paid his workers enough to own the then-luxury goods they were manufacturing, an almost unheard-of innovation at the time.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ironchew on January 23, 2015, 02:10:00 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/JQbjM1x.gif)

When the wealthy elite have nearly all the money, they can sustain themselves just fine by buying each others' luxury goods, which we can superficially measure by an increase in demand for luxury items that is 50% higher than the increase of GDP. (http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2014/08/13/rich-a13.html)

The elite don't care about a living wage because they aren't selling to us.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on January 24, 2015, 10:51:15 am
(http://oi59.tinypic.com/10i59v4.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on January 24, 2015, 10:59:52 am
(http://oi59.tinypic.com/10i59v4.jpg)

Good thing my home team is the Bills! They did really good this year. I'm proud of them.

Granted, my parents and I no longer live at "Home" but we're not gonna suddenly "Go Titans!" no sir!

And the Pat's are in deep doodoo! They should have a Super Bowl rematch!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RavynousHunter on January 24, 2015, 01:04:35 pm
Bills?

(http://statici.behindthevoiceactors.com/behindthevoiceactors/_img/chars/char_86853.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: ironbite on January 24, 2015, 06:08:56 pm
(http://oi59.tinypic.com/10i59v4.jpg)

Good thing my home team is the Bills! They did really good this year. I'm proud of them.

Granted, my parents and I no longer live at "Home" but we're not gonna suddenly "Go Titans!" no sir!

And the Pat's are in deep doodoo! They should have a Super Bowl rematch!

Yeah they did so good the head coach quit on you and you got Rex Ryan.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on January 24, 2015, 10:13:28 pm
(http://oi59.tinypic.com/10i59v4.jpg)

Good thing my home team is the Bills! They did really good this year. I'm proud of them.

Granted, my parents and I no longer live at "Home" but we're not gonna suddenly "Go Titans!" no sir!

And the Pat's are in deep doodoo! They should have a Super Bowl rematch!

Yeah they did so good the head coach quit on you and you got Rex Ryan.


I confess I haven't watched the games but my mom does and from her, I assumed the Bills were doing fine.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on January 26, 2015, 08:40:10 am
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/10953379_354792708037871_4471110521372341716_n.jpg?oh=4e80115c04c86cb50bc99156eea50c1b&oe=55682289&__gda__=1432693987_952638bc915e4be4ddb76b5b8b7478b0)4

And they just got a huge amount of rocket artillery that they used in an attack against an Ukrainian city. Surprising that they were able to resist the urge to use those earlier and even more surprising that those rocket artillery vehicles were first developed in 2011 in Russia and have never been sold to foreign countries. But the rebels still managed to obtain them from the Ukrainian military depot from which they get all their weapons and ammo.

And unrelated to the pic but related to the Ukrainian issue: One important thing to remember that Kiev IS the capital or Russia ...In all the old stories and in their national image which is built upon the historical Novgorod.

"Losing" their old capital city to the "enemies" is probably not something they want to happen when their president is still claiming that he will make Russia "return" to the good old times.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on January 27, 2015, 06:19:02 pm
(http://oi59.tinypic.com/dy7p5x.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on February 02, 2015, 06:34:45 pm
(http://api.theweek.com/sites/default/files/12815stevesack_Cagle.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on February 09, 2015, 10:35:20 pm
(http://media.cagle.com/205/2015/02/03/159498_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on February 09, 2015, 10:43:05 pm
(http://media.cagle.com/205/2015/02/03/159498_600.jpg)

I know it's a commentary on the serious situation with that measles outbreak but this cartoon is hilarious!

Y'know how football players who win the Super Bowl always say, "I'm going to Disneyland!"?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on February 15, 2015, 10:16:26 am
(http://oi57.tinypic.com/2d9u4nc.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cataclysm on February 20, 2015, 02:49:35 pm
(https://scontent-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/l/t1.0-9/10988296_10152723495621167_8715260956052117624_n.jpg?oh=714a458327d8bc5492650f20e4373704&oe=55878602)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on February 20, 2015, 07:30:34 pm
(https://scontent-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/l/t1.0-9/10988296_10152723495621167_8715260956052117624_n.jpg?oh=714a458327d8bc5492650f20e4373704&oe=55878602)

Yep! Proof that their real beef with Obama involves melanin. When Obama does/says/supports something that the GOP does/did, it suddenly becomes "OMG! LIBRUL COMMIE HIPPIE MOOSELIP SATANIST LIZARD ALIEN WHATEVER!".

Now, Obama's not perfect but this is ridiculous!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on February 20, 2015, 08:37:24 pm
(https://scontent-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/l/t1.0-9/10988296_10152723495621167_8715260956052117624_n.jpg?oh=714a458327d8bc5492650f20e4373704&oe=55878602)

Yep! Proof that their real beef with Obama involves melanin. When Obama does/says/supports something that the GOP does/did, it suddenly becomes "OMG! LIBRUL COMMIE HIPPIE MOOSELIP SATANIST LIZARD ALIEN WHATEVER!".

Now, Obama's not perfect but this is ridiculous!

I don't think Obama being black plays as big a role as you seem to think.  Fox News said a lot of ridiculous bullshit about the Clintons too.  It's really more due to the partisanship that's all too common in American politics these days.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lt. Fred on February 20, 2015, 09:34:52 pm
If your only serious criticism of your opponent has to be based entirely on lies, you're basically worthless as a political organisation.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on February 21, 2015, 12:51:50 pm
(http://media.cagle.com/139/2015/02/19/160280_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on February 21, 2015, 03:14:16 pm
(http://www.smbc-comics.com/comics/20150221.png)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on February 21, 2015, 04:03:17 pm
Except that in most countries there are more than two candidates/parties.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: I am lizard on February 22, 2015, 01:47:21 am
Except that in most countries there are more than two candidates/parties.
Fuck your comme bullshit.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Sigmaleph on February 22, 2015, 04:33:33 am
Except that in most countries there are more than two candidates/parties.

Not to mention that you can't really take it on the honour system (since it's to your obvious political interest to vote while your partner doesn't, or to "pair up" with multiple opposition voters without telling them), so you need a system that guarantees that people keep their side of the deal. And if you're setting up an extra system just to keep track of mutually cancelled votes, you're just setting up a more complicated version of the system for the same results. That's the opposite of more efficient.

But perhaps I am overanalysing a comic.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on February 23, 2015, 04:43:23 pm
(http://oi59.tinypic.com/dr6m13.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on February 28, 2015, 05:56:27 pm
(http://oi58.tinypic.com/2qitpuf.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on March 02, 2015, 07:40:35 am
(http://i.imgur.com/Hi5ouxU.jpg)

Unfortunately the joke does not work for everyone because at least three of those theories still have fanatical skeptics.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on March 02, 2015, 11:21:46 am
(http://i.imgur.com/Hi5ouxU.jpg)

Unfortunately the joke does not work for everyone because at least three of those theories still have fanatical skeptics.

Especially the bottom two. Anti-Global Warming/Evolution nuts are even in government!

And, yes, I know about the Flat Earth weirdos. Now THAT one is really nutsy-cuckoo!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Sigmaleph on March 02, 2015, 05:50:39 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/Hi5ouxU.jpg)

Unfortunately the joke does not work for everyone because at least three of those theories still have fanatical skeptics.

Also, because I'm fairly certain that at least one and possibly two of those arguments were entirely made up by the cartoonist.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Sixth Monarchist on March 07, 2015, 01:56:30 pm
The rarest of species, the Straightforward Guardian Cartoon: David Cameron seeks to avoid TV debates, despite being a hard advocate of them in the previous election.

(http://i.guim.co.uk/static/w-940/h--/q-95/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2015/3/5/1425587804354/e6818c2b-4a39-4a6e-9a24-a69a2f3aaa8e-620x428.jpeg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RavynousHunter on March 07, 2015, 07:45:19 pm
Wait...isn't that Condom Head?  He's got 3 reservoir tips now.  That's kinda overkill.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: mellenORL on March 07, 2015, 07:50:28 pm
It's a cockscomb. The frill of flesh on top of a rooster's head. Cockscomb condom. Brilliant! :P
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on March 09, 2015, 03:42:29 pm
(http://oi60.tinypic.com/21eukog.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on March 11, 2015, 02:19:17 pm
(http://oi60.tinypic.com/2efi8u0.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on March 13, 2015, 09:39:57 am
(http://oi59.tinypic.com/20kr7uh.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on March 14, 2015, 05:38:28 pm
(http://oi60.tinypic.com/2efi8u0.jpg)

I like this one. Humorous, too. Time to vote the GOP out....and Hispanic Americans will be at the forefront of doing just that!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on March 14, 2015, 10:39:58 pm
(http://oi60.tinypic.com/2efi8u0.jpg)

I like this one. Humorous, too. Time to vote the GOP out....and Hispanic Americans will be at the forefront of doing just that!

Except that Hispanics tend to be pretty socially conservative, and GOP strategists are good at playing that card.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on March 15, 2015, 04:20:37 am
(http://oi60.tinypic.com/2efi8u0.jpg)

I like this one. Humorous, too. Time to vote the GOP out....and Hispanic Americans will be at the forefront of doing just that!

Except that Hispanics tend to be pretty socially conservative, and GOP strategists are good at playing that card.


Even so, why is the GOP constantly trying to obstruct them in everything? Latinos...along with blacks...are like a GOP-Boogeyman.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on March 15, 2015, 05:45:22 am
(http://oi60.tinypic.com/2efi8u0.jpg)

I like this one. Humorous, too. Time to vote the GOP out....and Hispanic Americans will be at the forefront of doing just that!

Except that Hispanics tend to be pretty socially conservative, and GOP strategists are good at playing that card.


Even so, why is the GOP constantly trying to obstruct them in everything? Latinos...along with blacks...are like a GOP-Boogeyman.

Because they also need to play to their racist base. (Without appearing to be too racist, which is why you'll hear American politicians sometimes talk about some imagined threat from Canada when discussing border security.)

It's entirely possible that Hispanics will simply not vote, being unable to stomach either presented option.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on March 15, 2015, 06:18:45 pm
(http://media.cagle.com/81/2015/03/13/161280_600.jpg)

(http://media.cagle.com/95/2015/03/12/161217_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on March 16, 2015, 12:39:59 pm
(http://oi59.tinypic.com/2e0v86t.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on March 16, 2015, 01:13:05 pm
(http://oi59.tinypic.com/2e0v86t.jpg)

Is Putin dead?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on March 16, 2015, 02:19:20 pm
*snip image*

Is Putin dead?

No:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/vladimir-putin-appears-in-public-jokes-about-10-day-absence-1.2996471

He was just away for no explained reason for ten days.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on March 16, 2015, 02:27:31 pm
He may declare that this was a joke but we also saw that the Russian political system can not survive his departure or any weakness from him.

...I'm not kidding. If he is ever bedridden due to a disease (which might have happened now. We still don't know.) they have to pretend he is ok. He is trying to joke about it, but really this has just proven how weak his system is now that he has turned himself into a supreme ruler and they can't do anything without him.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: mellenORL on March 16, 2015, 02:56:07 pm
(http://oi59.tinypic.com/2e0v86t.jpg)

Is Putin dead?

I see that cartoon as referring to Boris Nemtsov; a jab at Putin for likely being behind the scenes of the assassinations of his political enemies.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on March 16, 2015, 06:50:09 pm
So V-Poo's still a pain in the Borscht? Damn.

Well, I called it in the Something's Happening In Russia thread, didn't I?....

Like Kim Jong Un, it turned out to be nothing. :P

I think we should avoid these "Incredible Disappearing Dictator" stories for now and not make any assumptions until either said dictator pops up looking fine or officially declared dead/disposed/both.

Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on March 17, 2015, 11:25:11 am
(http://oi62.tinypic.com/65z5us.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: mellenORL on March 17, 2015, 11:40:04 am
Eh, except the Dodo was hunted to extinction, which yes is a man-made change to their environment, as in erasing them from their environment. Cartoon would have been a little funnier if the state bird was changed to an ostrich with it's head stuck in the sand, maybe.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on March 17, 2015, 11:46:12 am
Eh, except the Dodo was hunted to extinction, which yes is a man-made change to their environment, as in erasing them from their environment. Cartoon would have been a little funnier if the state bird was changed to an ostrich with it's head stuck in the sand, maybe.

They were also killed by animals humans introduced to the islands they lived on.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on March 17, 2015, 02:06:45 pm
Eh, except the Dodo was hunted to extinction, which yes is a man-made change to their environment, as in erasing them from their environment. Cartoon would have been a little funnier if the state bird was changed to an ostrich with it's head stuck in the sand, maybe.

Maybe that's the point of the cartoon. A bit of "Fridge Brilliance" on the part of the cartoonist. A different layer of satire for the satire. Brilliant!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on March 18, 2015, 09:11:37 am
(http://oi58.tinypic.com/a4alu8.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on March 18, 2015, 09:58:07 am
Eh, except the Dodo was hunted to extinction, which yes is a man-made change to their environment, as in erasing them from their environment. Cartoon would have been a little funnier if the state bird was changed to an ostrich with it's head stuck in the sand, maybe.

Maybe that's the point of the cartoon. A bit of "Fridge Brilliance" on the part of the cartoonist. A different layer of satire for the satire. Brilliant!

I think that most of you are just thinking too deep. He probably just picked the Dodo because it was a species that was driven to extinction by humans.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on March 19, 2015, 04:06:36 pm
(http://oi59.tinypic.com/2mquhdg.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on March 20, 2015, 12:17:38 am
(http://therealsingapore.com/sites/default/files/field/image/barins.JPG)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on March 20, 2015, 12:40:23 am
(http://oi59.tinypic.com/2mquhdg.jpg)

Good news and bad news. Time for another plague to tackle. At least the disease part is a good start.

Unfortunately, those bozos are probably going to tie the good news & bad news together and use the later as propaganda in relation to disease.

I know folks everywhere in hard times need a scapegoat...it's human nature...but why is it so darn hard to pour all of one's hate into the obvious "Big old Robber Baron/Stockbroker archetype"?! You have folks blaming different ethnic groups, sexual orientations & stuff. *SHEESH!*
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on March 22, 2015, 11:54:04 am
(http://oi61.tinypic.com/2lkvhpv.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ironchew on March 22, 2015, 12:36:12 pm
-snip-

Mediocre political cartoons, maybe. I could've drawn that in five minutes.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on March 24, 2015, 01:11:06 am
(http://oi61.tinypic.com/10ykwet.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ironchew on March 24, 2015, 01:16:07 am
(http://oi61.tinypic.com/10ykwet.jpg)

He's certainly been helping the rich get richer.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Sigmaleph on March 24, 2015, 07:21:34 pm
Well, if poor people wanted more money, they should've chosen to be rich instead. I mean, it's not that hard.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on March 25, 2015, 09:28:51 pm
(http://oi59.tinypic.com/2lwtydh.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on March 26, 2015, 12:13:37 pm
(http://oi59.tinypic.com/2lwtydh.jpg)

*ZING!*
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on March 28, 2015, 11:21:18 am
Very good infograph/comic on the Boko Haram movement: https://thenib.com/some-wars-start-small-the-history-of-boko-haram-9387e3d822e9
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 02, 2015, 09:23:42 am
(http://media.cagle.com/95/2015/04/01/162068_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on April 03, 2015, 06:43:56 pm
(http://cdn.gagbay.com/2015/02/funny_web_comics_american_law_enforcement_101-547906.jpg)

EDIT:

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on April 06, 2015, 11:24:21 am
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/1507998_1078548942166116_7544239469992728572_n.jpg?oh=f71e0553d0f7d685525394f517377585&oe=55AECD1A&__gda__=1441132656_a130b4501dc98285038e81cc98f4fcf3)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 07, 2015, 12:03:03 pm
(http://media.cagle.com/139/2015/04/03/162188_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Vypernight on April 07, 2015, 12:45:29 pm
Fitting but should include every single GOP member.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: ironbite on April 07, 2015, 08:35:00 pm
You can only fit so much on a wing.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 08, 2015, 03:49:45 pm
(http://media.cagle.com/95/2015/04/07/162338_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: I am lizard on April 08, 2015, 04:01:12 pm
That seems like a rather contrived way of forcing a pun.
Edit: If this turns into an argument let it be known i simply dislike it for not saying anything substantial
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ironchew on April 08, 2015, 04:18:15 pm
Won't someone think of the frat boys?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 08, 2015, 04:24:43 pm
Won't someone think of the frat boys?

The members of Phi Kappa Psi received death threats, had their home vandalized, and had to go into hiding for weeks.  They're definitely the victims here.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ironchew on April 08, 2015, 04:27:13 pm
Won't someone think of the frat boys?

The members of Phi Kappa Psi received death threats, had their home vandalized, and had to go into hiding for weeks.  They're definitely the victims here.

Poor frat boys. They are the downtrodden -- the rejects of society. They have no financial resources to help themselves through this turmoil.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Sigmaleph on April 08, 2015, 10:28:09 pm
Won't someone think of the frat boys?

The members of Phi Kappa Psi received death threats, had their home vandalized, and had to go into hiding for weeks.  They're definitely the victims here.

Poor frat boys. They are the downtrodden -- the rejects of society. They have no financial resources to help themselves through this turmoil.

So people cannot be wronged unless they are downtrodden or poor? It's somehow not a bad thing to send death threats to someone if they are in frat?

Things don't suddenly stop being bad when they happen to members of a group you don't like.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on April 09, 2015, 12:46:05 am
(http://img-9gag-ftw.9cache.com/photo/avgxmKM_700b.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on April 09, 2015, 01:01:32 am
Won't someone think of the frat boys?

The members of Phi Kappa Psi received death threats, had their home vandalized, and had to go into hiding for weeks.  They're definitely the victims here.

Poor frat boys. They are the downtrodden -- the rejects of society. They have no financial resources to help themselves through this turmoil.

So people cannot be wronged unless they are downtrodden or poor? It's somehow not a bad thing to send death threats to someone if they are in frat?

Things don't suddenly stop being bad when they happen to members of a group you don't like.

I think the implication is that this is a case of Tumblr power+something argument and someone needs to check their privilege.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: I am lizard on April 09, 2015, 01:05:39 am
(http://img-9gag-ftw.9cache.com/photo/avgxmKM_700b.jpg)
5. Attempt to be a white man, preferably of the upper-middle class.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ironchew on April 09, 2015, 01:45:34 am
Won't someone think of the frat boys?

The members of Phi Kappa Psi received death threats, had their home vandalized, and had to go into hiding for weeks.  They're definitely the victims here.

Poor frat boys. They are the downtrodden -- the rejects of society. They have no financial resources to help themselves through this turmoil.

So people cannot be wronged unless they are downtrodden or poor? It's somehow not a bad thing to send death threats to someone if they are in frat?

Things don't suddenly stop being bad when they happen to members of a group you don't like.

Sorry, I'll try again with less snark.

This issue is often framed as a tug-of-war between two sides: the agency of the rape victim versus the reputation of the falsely accused. The most reliable statistics I've been able to find on rape accusations is 33% of rape victims report the crime while 2% of reports are false accusations. The unlikely false positive is why we demand evidence from the prosecution in a court of law, which I find to be adequate protection for the reputation of the falsely-accused. I jumped to a conclusion that UP was using this as an cudgel to make it harder for rape victims to publicly accuse rapists, but it's possible that wasn't his intent.

As for any suffering the falsely-accused frat boys went through, I don't buy that it's the same level of torment a rape victim has to endure.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Eiki-mun on April 09, 2015, 01:49:01 am
The unlikely false positive is why we demand evidence from the prosecution in a court of law, which I find to be adequate protection for the reputation of the falsely-accused.

Except that one doesn't even have to go to court to ruin the accusation of a rape accusation victim. A mere accusation is all it takes for the whole thing to make national news, and from that point on, the person accused of rape will go through the rest of their life as "hey, aren't you the guy who raped that girl?"
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ironchew on April 09, 2015, 02:25:44 am
The unlikely false positive is why we demand evidence from the prosecution in a court of law, which I find to be adequate protection for the reputation of the falsely-accused.

Except that one doesn't even have to go to court to ruin the accusation of a rape accusation victim. A mere accusation is all it takes for the whole thing to make national news, and from that point on, the person accused of rape will go through the rest of their life as "hey, aren't you the guy who raped that girl?"

The press abandoned this case after the accusation was determined to be false -- the general public has an attention span of one press cycle. Some hardcore hecklers are out there, I'm sure, but the density isn't high enough to bother the victims more than once in a very great while.

Maybe about as often as the moon landing conspiracy theorists bug Buzz Aldrin.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Eiki-mun on April 09, 2015, 01:59:45 pm
So, often enough to want to punch them in the face?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Sigmaleph on April 09, 2015, 11:53:26 pm

Sorry, I'll try again with less snark.

This issue is often framed as a tug-of-war between two sides: the agency of the rape victim versus the reputation of the falsely accused. The most reliable statistics I've been able to find on rape accusations is 33% of rape victims report the crime while 2% of reports are false accusations.

Source, please? Looking over Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_accusation_of_rape) suggests that 2% is very low on the scale. Admittedly there seem to be recurring methodological problems in what is counted as "false" which inflate figures, but that doesn't automatically mean that the lowest number is the right one.

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The unlikely false positive is why we demand evidence from the prosecution in a court of law, which I find to be adequate protection for the reputation of the falsely-accused.

I don't, not when magazines go around publishing stories without fact-checking.

There is a worrying trend among some elements of Social Justice that strongly discourages doubting a rape accusation. There is a good reason for this, of course, the last thing a rape victim needs is being told they* are a liar. But it also sets up an environment where it's really easy for a woman to accuse a man of being a rapist and very hard for a man to defend against that accusation.

And I think the best answer to that is to be supportive of victims without, y'know, sending death threats to the accused. And that's might not be optimal, but it's not like the current balance is better. Because in the current balance, the accused who happen to fall in the public eye get death threats and the accused and cleared get dismissed as frat boys who probably deserved it anyway.

(and then there's assholes like this guy (https://twitter.com/arthur_affect/status/581196541802651648), but that's a whole other thing)

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I jumped to a conclusion that UP was using this as an cudgel to make it harder for rape victims to publicly accuse rapists, but it's possible that wasn't his intent.

Maybe he was, can't read UP's mind.

Speaking for myself, publicly accusing rapists is complicated and it has serious downsides and while I'm not necessarily against it I'm not unambiguously for it either. A publicly accused person will with very high probability suffer a lot of fallout regardless of innocence (but sometimes making accusations public is important anyway, and if a high-profile person is accused it will become public regardless).

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As for any suffering the falsely-accused frat boys went through, I don't buy that it's the same level of torment a rape victim has to endure.

If you mean that being raped is worse than being falsely accused, sure. But if you mean that the societal treatment of rape victims is worse than that of accused rapists, that is very context-dependent. Probably true on average, but not in every individual case.


*This trend is mostly about women accusing men, but men get raped too and are also often dismissed for it, although for different reasons.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on April 10, 2015, 12:38:07 am
Question: Do victims NEED to publicly accuse the suspect? Do we need to shame the suspect before the courts have decided if they are guilty?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ironchew on April 10, 2015, 12:46:13 am

Sorry, I'll try again with less snark.

This issue is often framed as a tug-of-war between two sides: the agency of the rape victim versus the reputation of the falsely accused. The most reliable statistics I've been able to find on rape accusations is 33% of rape victims report the crime while 2% of reports are false accusations.

Source, please?

The Bureau of Justice Statistics did a study estimating the probability of rapes being reported to the police in 2013 (http://www.bjs.gov/index.cfm?ty=pbdetail&iid=5111):

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The NCVS allows for an examination of crimes reported and not reported to police...From 2012 to 2013, there was no statistically significant change in the percentage of violent and serious violent victimizations reported to police...A greater percentage of robbery (68%) and aggravated assault (64%) were reported to police than simple assault (38%) and rape or sexual assault (35%) victimizations.

The data available is fuzzy for determining the probability a rape accusation is false because of different definitions among jurisdictions and inconsistent records on the subject. I think I got the 2% number from the low estimation on Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_accusation_of_rape):

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DiCanio (1993) states that while researchers and prosecutors do not agree on the exact percentage of false allegations, they generally agree on a range of 2% to 10%.[DiCanio, M. (1993). The encyclopedia of violence: origins, attitudes, consequences. New York: Facts on File. ISBN 978-0-8160-2332-5.]
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 10, 2015, 12:49:24 am
There is reason to doubt those statistics:

http://www.slate.com/articles/double_x/doublex/2014/09/false_rape_accusations_why_must_be_pretend_they_never_happen.html (http://www.slate.com/articles/double_x/doublex/2014/09/false_rape_accusations_why_must_be_pretend_they_never_happen.html)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Eiki-mun on April 10, 2015, 01:15:35 am
Question: Do victims NEED to publicly accuse the suspect? Do we need to shame the suspect before the courts have decided if they are guilty?

Well, it would be /nice/ if journalists would avoid publicly naming a rape suspect, but they just can't do that.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on April 10, 2015, 02:16:02 am
Question: Do victims NEED to publicly accuse the suspect? Do we need to shame the suspect before the courts have decided if they are guilty?

Well, it would be /nice/ if journalists would avoid publicly naming a rape suspect, but they just can't do that.

That reminds me. Few weeks ago I read a column about how USA and Finland deal with privacy differently. Namely the right to privacy that people have.

In USA those laws come from the bit in the constitution where it says that the government can't search peoples homes without a probable cause, in Finland our laws clearly state that people have the right to privacy.

The distinction is that in USA the law (and the society) are mainly concerned with the GOVERNMENT infringing that right and ONLY the government can do so. In Finland privacy is a right regardless of who would infringe it. This is why the media can publish the names of the suspects in USA but not in Finland. (Much like how the "freedom of speech" bit in the US constitution is only concerned with the US government shutting up people.)

There are exceptions of course. For example if you are a politician or a celebrity in Finland then by making yourself a public figure your right to privacy is limited, the media can do the kind of tabloid news about you that they could not do about "common people."

This also effects other things. In Finland you have to have your child's name approved and there are limits to what kind of names are allowed. You can't give a child a name that is insulting, would cause to have them bullied or for example give a boy a girls name or vise versa. In USA there aren't such limits and any attempt to do so would be seen as the government infringing the rights of the people. This is because in USA choosing the name of the child is considered something that happens "inside the home" and therefore the government has no right to tell you that your child can't be named Fart-eater-lucifer-satan.

Note that I am mainly quoting the article from memory and may have gotten some things wrong.

EDIT: Just to stay on topic:
(http://i.imgur.com/bXv1BEr.png)

One of the comments on Imgur was that there is progress since black people are now allowed to dine at the counter.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ironchew on April 10, 2015, 02:27:58 am
Question: Do victims NEED to publicly accuse the suspect? Do we need to shame the suspect before the courts have decided if they are guilty?

Well, it would be /nice/ if journalists would avoid publicly naming a rape suspect, but they just can't do that.

That reminds me. Few weeks ago I read a column about how USA and Finland deal with privacy differently. Namely the right to privacy that people have.

In USA those laws come from the bit in the constitution where it says that the government can't search peoples homes without a probable cause, in Finland our laws clearly state that people have the right to privacy.

The distinction is that in USA the law (and the society) are mainly concerned with the GOVERNMENT infringing that right and ONLY the government can do so. In Finland privacy is a right regardless of who would infringe it. This is why the media can publish the names of the suspects in USA but not in Finland. (Much like how the "freedom of speech" bit in the US constitution is only concerned with the US government shutting up people.)

There are exceptions of course. For example if you are a politician or a celebrity in Finland then by making yourself a public figure your right to privacy is limited, the media can do the kind of tabloid news about you that they could not do about "common people."

This also effects other things. In Finland you have to have your child's name approved and there are limits to what kind of names are allowed. You can't give a child a name that is insulting, would cause to have them bullied or for example give a boy a girls name or vise versa. In USA there aren't such limits and any attempt to do so would be seen as the government infringing the rights of the people. This is because in USA choosing the name of the child is considered something that happens "inside the home" and therefore the government has no right to tell you that your child can't be named Fart-eater-lucifer-satan.

Note that I am mainly quoting the article from memory and may have gotten some things wrong.

In keeping with the thread:

(http://theheatmag.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/e120208_Steinpg-vertical.jpg)

One of the mind-boggling parts of parsing Libertarian rants about mass surveillance here in the U.S. is that they don't seem to mind when it's corporations doing the mass surveillance with the same technology.

I guess if the Free Market™ can use sensitive personal data to make our lives hell, Libertarians are okay with that.

EDIT:

In USA there aren't such limits and any attempt to do so would be seen as the government infringing the rights of the people. This is because in USA choosing the name of the child is considered something that happens "inside the home" and therefore the government has no right to tell you that your child can't be named Fart-eater-lucifer-satan.

Not true; there are naming laws in many U.S. states. A Tennessee court enforced its respective naming laws a while back in a case that got some press attention (http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2013/08/12/211348996/judge-orders-babys-name-changed-from-messiah) because the judge was dumb enough to cite Jesus Christ as the reason a baby couldn't be named "Messiah".
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Id82 on April 10, 2015, 11:27:05 am
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One of the mind-boggling parts of parsing Libertarian rants about mass surveillance here in the U.S. is that they don't seem to mind when it's corporations doing the mass surveillance with the same technology.

I guess if the Free Market™ can use sensitive personal data to make our lives hell, Libertarians are okay with that.

One of the things that pisses me off about Libertarians is that since they want little to know government control they don't realize that that power has to go somewhere. It will go to the rich corporations who if left unrestricted will just abuse the American people all to just make money for their corporations.

Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Sigmaleph on April 10, 2015, 01:27:00 pm
(http://theheatmag.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/e120208_Steinpg-vertical.jpg)

One of the mind-boggling parts of parsing Libertarian rants about mass surveillance here in the U.S. is that they don't seem to mind when it's corporations doing the mass surveillance with the same technology.

I guess if the Free Market™ can use sensitive personal data to make our lives hell, Libertarians are okay with that.

I guess we hang out with different libertarians? Most of the ones I've interacted with oppose corporate surveillance just as much as government surveillance.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: I am lizard on April 10, 2015, 01:34:10 pm
(http://theheatmag.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/e120208_Steinpg-vertical.jpg)

One of the mind-boggling parts of parsing Libertarian rants about mass surveillance here in the U.S. is that they don't seem to mind when it's corporations doing the mass surveillance with the same technology.

I guess if the Free Market™ can use sensitive personal data to make our lives hell, Libertarians are okay with that.

I guess we hang out with different libertarians? Most of the ones I've interacted with oppose corporate surveillance just as much as government surveillance.
At the risk of #notalllibertarians, from what I can tell there is a diverse array of ideas within the libertarian spectrum, basically the only thing they have in common is there dislike of Goverment overeach.
It's bassically like how Socilist/communists range from people who simply support welfare and regulations on banks to full blown tankies*.



*tankies are apologist for Stalin or any other oppressive communist regime, generally despised by both Socilists and anarchists
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ironchew on April 10, 2015, 01:45:13 pm
(http://theheatmag.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/e120208_Steinpg-vertical.jpg)

One of the mind-boggling parts of parsing Libertarian rants about mass surveillance here in the U.S. is that they don't seem to mind when it's corporations doing the mass surveillance with the same technology.

I guess if the Free Market™ can use sensitive personal data to make our lives hell, Libertarians are okay with that.

I guess we hang out with different libertarians? Most of the ones I've interacted with oppose corporate surveillance just as much as government surveillance.

The Libertarians I encounter the most often seem to align with Republicans on nearly every issue, but they know the Republican brand is damaged among several demographics so they call themselves an independent or a Libertarian instead.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 11, 2015, 10:44:13 pm
(http://media.cagle.com/139/2015/04/10/162537_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on April 11, 2015, 11:18:21 pm
(http://img-9gag-ftw.9cache.com/photo/am0Mmry_700b.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 12, 2015, 03:20:48 pm
(http://media.cagle.com/205/2015/04/09/162463_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 16, 2015, 11:47:01 am
(http://oi60.tinypic.com/33e0bq9.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: mellenORL on April 16, 2015, 01:07:53 pm
Good one, UP.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on April 16, 2015, 07:33:23 pm
Question: Do victims NEED to publicly accuse the suspect? Do we need to shame the suspect before the courts have decided if they are guilty?

Well, it would be /nice/ if journalists would avoid publicly naming a rape suspect, but they just can't do that.

That reminds me. Few weeks ago I read a column about how USA and Finland deal with privacy differently. Namely the right to privacy that people have.

In USA those laws come from the bit in the constitution where it says that the government can't search peoples homes without a probable cause, in Finland our laws clearly state that people have the right to privacy.

The distinction is that in USA the law (and the society) are mainly concerned with the GOVERNMENT infringing that right and ONLY the government can do so. In Finland privacy is a right regardless of who would infringe it. This is why the media can publish the names of the suspects in USA but not in Finland. (Much like how the "freedom of speech" bit in the US constitution is only concerned with the US government shutting up people.)

There are exceptions of course. For example if you are a politician or a celebrity in Finland then by making yourself a public figure your right to privacy is limited, the media can do the kind of tabloid news about you that they could not do about "common people."

This also effects other things. In Finland you have to have your child's name approved and there are limits to what kind of names are allowed. You can't give a child a name that is insulting, would cause to have them bullied or for example give a boy a girls name or vise versa. In USA there aren't such limits and any attempt to do so would be seen as the government infringing the rights of the people. This is because in USA choosing the name of the child is considered something that happens "inside the home" and therefore the government has no right to tell you that your child can't be named Fart-eater-lucifer-satan.

Note that I am mainly quoting the article from memory and may have gotten some things wrong.

EDIT: Just to stay on topic:
(http://i.imgur.com/bXv1BEr.png)

One of the comments on Imgur was that there is progress since black people are now allowed to dine at the counter.


That commenter on Imgur seems to be either a troll or someone with a bad case of THIS......
(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f226/SpukiKitty/General%20Reactions/missingthepoint_zps56abe210.jpeg) (http://s48.photobucket.com/user/SpukiKitty/media/General%20Reactions/missingthepoint_zps56abe210.jpeg.html)
....Either way, they're a pile of pig offal!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 20, 2015, 09:35:14 am
(http://media.cagle.com/16/2015/04/17/162801_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 25, 2015, 12:19:10 pm
(http://media.cagle.com/139/2015/04/24/163123_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: KZN02 on April 25, 2015, 06:35:29 pm
(https://scontent-lax.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/t31.0-8/s720x720/11157471_825816460801523_8546126008681109400_o.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on April 27, 2015, 10:00:22 am
(http://www.angryflower.com/timeshow.gif)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 27, 2015, 10:25:38 am
(http://media.cagle.com/10/2015/04/26/163148_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: mellenORL on April 27, 2015, 12:02:55 pm
Oh, look at how that makes the GOP elephant appear to be the pig it truly is?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lady Evil on April 27, 2015, 03:38:32 pm
(http://www.angryflower.com/timeshow.gif)

I thought it was spelled "cyborg".
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on April 27, 2015, 03:53:33 pm
I thought it was spelled "cyborg".
Obviously Psiborgs are different than regular Cyborgs. Maybe they have Psionic abilities for example.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Id82 on April 27, 2015, 05:18:25 pm
Why does the black guy look like a white guy with black paint on his face and a wig?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 27, 2015, 08:36:03 pm
Why does the black guy look like a white guy with black paint on his face and a wig?

I don't know, maybe the artist is from a country where black people aren't common or something.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on April 27, 2015, 09:28:23 pm
Why does the black guy look like a white guy with black paint on his face and a wig?

I don't know, maybe the artist is from a country where black people aren't common or something.

There's plenty of black people in Canada.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: mellenORL on April 27, 2015, 10:39:55 pm
Maybe the cartoonist draws at a scale in black marker on paper too small in which to do point shading or line shading with that marker. Apparently, they don't like using a fine point pen or marker, and don't use grey scale in-fill after scanning the drawing. I guess s/he thinks that would look odd, considering their very old-school cartoon drawing style.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 28, 2015, 09:32:11 am
(http://media.cagle.com/89/2015/04/27/163173_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cloud3514 on April 28, 2015, 02:35:23 pm
.... Ok, that's a pretty good one.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: I am lizard on May 05, 2015, 10:53:15 am
(https://thenib.com/punch-up-e6f4ed8089c1)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on May 05, 2015, 10:56:23 am
(https://thenib.com/punch-up-e6f4ed8089c1)

(https://d262ilb51hltx0.cloudfront.net/max/1001/1*qtaCM0IzXMZaArkePb1GAA.gif)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: I am lizard on May 05, 2015, 11:00:27 am
(https://thenib.com/punch-up-e6f4ed8089c1)

(https://d262ilb51hltx0.cloudfront.net/max/1001/1*qtaCM0IzXMZaArkePb1GAA.gif)
Thank you
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Second Coming of Madman on May 06, 2015, 04:59:44 pm
(https://img.washingtonpost.com/rf/image_606w/2010-2019/WashingtonPost/2015/05/05/Editorial-Opinion/Graphics/toles05062015.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on May 06, 2015, 06:42:40 pm
(https://img.washingtonpost.com/rf/image_606w/2010-2019/WashingtonPost/2015/05/05/Editorial-Opinion/Graphics/toles05062015.jpg)

Oh man! Spot-on! Ben Carson used to be a hero to many, especially blacks. Now he's a Teahadi nutjob! True, he was always conservative....but then he decided to go from conservative to wingnut!!!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Nemo on May 08, 2015, 11:59:29 pm
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xta1/v/t1.0-9/11219412_942501279135734_648391265648077586_n.jpg?oh=b6d4a62eb0df0811aeda664fedee192b&oe=560D5D9E&__gda__=1440247968_387f871d533f11e725fb4b92a0e47271)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on May 09, 2015, 04:09:11 pm
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xta1/v/t1.0-9/11219412_942501279135734_648391265648077586_n.jpg?oh=b6d4a62eb0df0811aeda664fedee192b&oe=560D5D9E&__gda__=1440247968_387f871d533f11e725fb4b92a0e47271)

I tell ya, double standarks, doublespeak & goalpost moving are what wingnuts are good at.  :P
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on May 10, 2015, 11:01:38 pm
(http://media.cagle.com/39/2015/05/08/163700_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cloud3514 on May 10, 2015, 11:17:39 pm
I remember seeing a small initiative on Tumblr to replace Chuck Norris jokes with Idris Elba jokes because Chuck Norris is an asshole. Can we get some strong support for this because Idris Elba is awesome?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on May 10, 2015, 11:22:08 pm
I remember seeing a small initiative on Tumblr to replace Chuck Norris jokes with Idris Elba jokes because Chuck Norris is an asshole. Can we get some strong support for this because Idris Elba is awesome?

That's not a bad idea.  But why stop there?  Maybe we could bring back Vin Diesel jokes.  And Mr. T jokes, while we're at it.

Introducing Clint Eastwood jokes might also work.  Or better yet, Christopher Lee jokes.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: KZN02 on May 10, 2015, 11:26:14 pm
(http://40.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mcf0tyMBO61r9qbgqo1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on May 10, 2015, 11:32:20 pm
(http://40.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mcf0tyMBO61r9qbgqo1_500.jpg)

Bruce would've eaten Chuck for breakfast.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: ironbite on May 11, 2015, 08:46:34 pm
Would have?  He did.

Ironbite-broke his fucking arm.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ghoti on May 14, 2015, 03:45:51 pm
Would have?  He did.

Ironbite-broke his fucking arm.
The only reason Chuck Norris is still alive is because he knows when he dies Bruce Lee will be there, waiting for him.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on May 22, 2015, 02:18:17 am
(http://2my7f92zib1f45zgm72sqyov.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/guesswhichiswhite.png)

After seeing this comic I tried googling Timothy Wilson because it just didn't make sense why they would want to shoot someone who's car is stuck in the mud. Turns out that he was driving without a license (and underaged) and tried to escape from the police. This at least gives us a reason why the police were chasing him, but is not an excuse for shooting him after his vehicle had been immobilized. They could have just blocked his car (just in case he would get it unstuck) and forced him to surrender.

Now I am wondering if I should google the rest of the cases as well but I doubt there will be any surprises. If I were to play the Devil's advocate I could accept that complete and utter incompetence in most of USA's police force is a possible explanation for these cases, but that isn't much better than systemic racism in the police force.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on May 22, 2015, 12:55:52 pm
(http://2my7f92zib1f45zgm72sqyov.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/guesswhichiswhite.png)

After seeing this comic I tried googling Timothy Wilson because it just didn't make sense why they would want to shoot someone who's car is stuck in the mud. Turns out that he was driving without a license (and underaged) and tried to escape from the police. This at least gives us a reason why the police were chasing him, but is not an excuse for shooting him after his vehicle had been immobilized. They could have just blocked his car (just in case he would get it unstuck) and forced him to surrender.

Now I am wondering if I should google the rest of the cases as well but I doubt there will be any surprises. If I were to play the Devil's advocate I could accept that complete and utter incompetence in most of USA's police force is a possible explanation for these cases, but that isn't much better than systemic racism in the police force.

So many bad cops screwing up everything and the good cops are always to cowed to do anything about it.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on May 23, 2015, 11:47:35 pm
(http://oi60.tinypic.com/jpg7qd.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on May 24, 2015, 11:01:13 am
(http://oi60.tinypic.com/jpg7qd.jpg)

At least the suits don't have boiling tar. TIME TO GET THE BATTERING RAMS!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on May 24, 2015, 04:53:00 pm
(http://oi59.tinypic.com/2aj99xk.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on May 24, 2015, 04:56:27 pm
(http://oi59.tinypic.com/2aj99xk.jpg)

To be fair, this applies to the Democratic candidates equally well.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on May 24, 2015, 07:37:06 pm
(http://oi59.tinypic.com/2aj99xk.jpg)

Oh, great, I have the simultaneous urge to laugh hysterically AND barf!  :P

Ted & Jeb are the funniest. Ted's certainly got the lashes. Rand's expression is silly, too.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: mellenORL on May 25, 2015, 10:51:23 am
Mike Luckovich cartoons are another reason I miss living in Atlanta sometimes.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on May 25, 2015, 12:07:33 pm
Mike Luckovich cartoons are another reason I miss living in Atlanta sometimes.

That can be remedied!
Quick....TO THE *echo voice* INFORMATION SUPERHIGHWAAAAYYY!!!
http://luckovich.blog.ajc.com/
*TAA DAAAAH*
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: mellenORL on May 25, 2015, 02:47:52 pm
Not quite what I meant, Spuki. More like civic pride.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cataclysm on May 26, 2015, 02:53:30 pm
(https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/t1.0-9/11351151_454168654760168_7731298271111473518_n.jpg?oh=52911c546e66a7d78adb8a84e452768b&oe=55F22623)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cerim Treascair on May 26, 2015, 04:22:25 pm
... I don't quite grok that one.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cataclysm on May 26, 2015, 06:16:03 pm
The yellow and black on the person shows he's an anarcho-capitalist. Snacks often claim taxes are theft because people don't choose to pay them but people claim this isn't the case since they can leave thier country.

This is a disconnect because anacaps do not believe rent is theft despite not being fundamentally different than taxes.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RavynousHunter on May 26, 2015, 06:56:09 pm
So...taxes are rent on a national scale?  That's actually one of the best analogies I've heard in a while.  Makes a hell of a lot of sense, to boot, because the government, like a landlord, uses part of the rent money to keep the house in good working order.  At least, that's how its supposed to work on paper.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on May 26, 2015, 07:07:23 pm
So...taxes are rent on a national scale?  That's actually one of the best analogies I've heard in a while.  Makes a hell of a lot of sense, to boot, because the government, like a landlord, uses part of the rent money to keep the house in good working order.  At least, that's how its supposed to work on paper.

I think the idea is that in English common law, ever since the Domesday Book, the monarch owns all the land. Taxes (property taxes at least) are the price we pay for being allowed to live on that land.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on May 27, 2015, 10:17:28 am
(http://oi60.tinypic.com/2hdwok8.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on May 30, 2015, 12:43:48 am
(http://notalwayslearning.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/edu35.gif)

EDIT:

(http://www.prosebeforehos.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/legalize-open-pointing-comic.png)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Sixth Monarchist on May 31, 2015, 01:37:40 pm
(http://i.guim.co.uk/static/w-1920/h--/q-95/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2015/5/30/1433008974311/2b032b59-22f6-479e-8b84-6ee4e252bf1f-1020x552.jpeg)

Sorta-political, but I'd say it counts.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on May 31, 2015, 01:39:39 pm
(http://oi58.tinypic.com/rqvonr.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cataclysm on May 31, 2015, 06:06:46 pm
(https://scontent-lax1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/11329923_703893036423518_3444757792909726226_n.png?oh=19404ee80ce6d65efc5e51bf5e5602f8&oe=56038B07)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on June 01, 2015, 07:52:21 pm
(http://oi61.tinypic.com/2h7e7ns.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on June 01, 2015, 10:41:54 pm
(http://oi61.tinypic.com/2h7e7ns.jpg)

 ;D HILARIOUS & AWESOME!!! ;D

OOH! OOH! I got one....THE HOLY BIBLE HAS A LOT OF GRAPHIC AND SENSATIONALIZED VIOLENCE....AND GOD IS FINE WITH IT AND ENCOURAGES IT!!!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lt. Fred on June 02, 2015, 07:03:10 pm
So...taxes are rent on a national scale?  That's actually one of the best analogies I've heard in a while.  Makes a hell of a lot of sense, to boot, because the government, like a landlord, uses part of the rent money to keep the house in good working order.  At least, that's how its supposed to work on paper.

Rent is just welfare on a grand scale. Taxation is paying for the stuff you use.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: I am lizard on June 03, 2015, 01:14:37 am
(http://ammarabdulhamid.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/Never-Again.gif)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on June 03, 2015, 12:54:57 pm
https://thenib.com/the-internet-s-most-trolled-cartoonist-91a92d9b7585

This is interesting. We had seen some of his "edited" comics during FSTDT era already but I hadn't known that his comics had been misrepresented.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on June 03, 2015, 10:59:12 pm
https://thenib.com/the-internet-s-most-trolled-cartoonist-91a92d9b7585

This is interesting. We had seen some of his "edited" comics during FSTDT era already but I hadn't known that his comics had been misrepresented.

Now we know the REAL STORY.

Thanks, very enlightening. I don't agree with his politics but now I know he isn't some Neo-Nazi bigot freak.

That said, Ron Paul's a bigot. I know Ben likes some of Paul's ideas on stuff like govt. & the Federal Reserve but I wonder if he's aware of the bigoted stuff?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on June 09, 2015, 08:56:45 pm
(http://oi62.tinypic.com/1568v41.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cataclysm on June 11, 2015, 12:47:02 pm
Is that cartoon saying that we should go after businesses that hire illegals or that deporting illegals will be bad for the economy.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on June 11, 2015, 12:52:45 pm
Is that cartoon saying that we should go after businesses that hire illegals or that deporting illegals will be bad for the economy.

The latter, I assume.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on June 14, 2015, 12:49:03 am
(http://oi59.tinypic.com/6hul8p.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: LeTipex on June 14, 2015, 07:12:56 am
(http://oi59.tinypic.com/6hul8p.jpg)
How is that in "Best"?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on June 14, 2015, 09:01:26 am
(http://oi59.tinypic.com/6hul8p.jpg)
How is that in "Best"?

Because Chairwoman Pao is censoring anything critical of her.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: ironbite on June 14, 2015, 04:18:09 pm
Once again we see UP's own agenda trying to take sway.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: I am lizard on June 14, 2015, 08:25:15 pm
(http://oi59.tinypic.com/6hul8p.jpg)
How is that in "Best"?

Because Chairwoman Pao is censoring anything critical of her.
I will just preface this by saying I am in fact 17 years old, I am white, and I do live in America. Do I think my problems are worse than that of the people in Ethiopia? Yes, yes I do. I can explain to you in detail. I am being banned constantly. They watch what I do, they read my private messages, and they probably snicker at the things I type, and you act like you know oppression? Those Ethiopians get hurt, sure, but the time is going to come when the reddit admins are going to ban any subreddit for disagreeing with them. Where men and women will not have their say any where. And for now, we have to pay gold for people to access their funny cat pictures (sheeple scum) who won't do any subreddit activism and will only get a cheap laugh, even go1dfish would find this shit unbelievable. You act smug to people like me, but you don't even know the half of it.



Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on June 14, 2015, 09:56:09 pm
Once again we see UP's own agenda trying to take sway.

Well, if opposing authoritarian, thin-skinned liars is wrong, I don't want to be right.

(http://oi59.tinypic.com/6hul8p.jpg)
How is that in "Best"?

Because Chairwoman Pao is censoring anything critical of her.
I will just preface this by saying I am in fact 17 years old, I am white, and I do live in America. Do I think my problems are worse than that of the people in Ethiopia? Yes, yes I do. I can explain to you in detail. I am being banned constantly. They watch what I do, they read my private messages, and they probably snicker at the things I type, and you act like you know oppression? Those Ethiopians get hurt, sure, but the time is going to come when the reddit admins are going to ban any subreddit for disagreeing with them. Where men and women will not have their say any where. And for now, we have to pay gold for people to access their funny cat pictures (sheeple scum) who won't do any subreddit activism and will only get a cheap laugh, even go1dfish would find this shit unbelievable. You act smug to people like me, but you don't even know the half of it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallacy_of_relative_privation (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallacy_of_relative_privation)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ironchew on June 14, 2015, 10:23:47 pm
Getting banned from Reddit isn't at all on the same level as systematic human rights violations, sorry.

If I wanted free speech I would host my own website.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on June 14, 2015, 10:27:53 pm
Getting banned from Reddit isn't at all on the same level as systematic human rights violations, sorry.

If I wanted free speech I would host my own website.

Of course not.  And I'm not claiming it is.  But here's the thing: Reddit was founded on free speech.  These attempts to "clean it up" are making Aaron Swartz spin in his grave.

By the way, if the Reddit admins say they're banning actions, not ideas, they're fucking lying.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: I am lizard on June 14, 2015, 11:28:41 pm
Once again we see UP's own agenda trying to take sway.

Well, if opposing authoritarian, thin-skinned liars is wrong, I don't want to be right.

(http://oi59.tinypic.com/6hul8p.jpg)
How is that in "Best"?

Because Chairwoman Pao is censoring anything critical of her.
I will just preface this by saying I am in fact 17 years old, I am white, and I do live in America. Do I think my problems are worse than that of the people in Ethiopia? Yes, yes I do. I can explain to you in detail. I am being banned constantly. They watch what I do, they read my private messages, and they probably snicker at the things I type, and you act like you know oppression? Those Ethiopians get hurt, sure, but the time is going to come when the reddit admins are going to ban any subreddit for disagreeing with them. Where men and women will not have their say any where. And for now, we have to pay gold for people to access their funny cat pictures (sheeple scum) who won't do any subreddit activism and will only get a cheap laugh, even go1dfish would find this shit unbelievable. You act smug to people like me, but you don't even know the half of it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallacy_of_relative_privation (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallacy_of_relative_privation)
That wasn't fallacy, that was me mocking you for losing proportion of something.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on June 14, 2015, 11:32:36 pm
Once again we see UP's own agenda trying to take sway.

Well, if opposing authoritarian, thin-skinned liars is wrong, I don't want to be right.

(http://oi59.tinypic.com/6hul8p.jpg)
How is that in "Best"?

Because Chairwoman Pao is censoring anything critical of her.
I will just preface this by saying I am in fact 17 years old, I am white, and I do live in America. Do I think my problems are worse than that of the people in Ethiopia? Yes, yes I do. I can explain to you in detail. I am being banned constantly. They watch what I do, they read my private messages, and they probably snicker at the things I type, and you act like you know oppression? Those Ethiopians get hurt, sure, but the time is going to come when the reddit admins are going to ban any subreddit for disagreeing with them. Where men and women will not have their say any where. And for now, we have to pay gold for people to access their funny cat pictures (sheeple scum) who won't do any subreddit activism and will only get a cheap laugh, even go1dfish would find this shit unbelievable. You act smug to people like me, but you don't even know the half of it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallacy_of_relative_privation (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallacy_of_relative_privation)
sorry, mocking someone for losing proportion of something minor. I mean what's next, are we gonna see pictures of Ellen Pao as a nazi about to shoot snoo?

It's hyperbole, of course, but who hasn't exaggerated their problems?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: ironbite on June 15, 2015, 07:06:12 pm
Getting banned from Reddit isn't at all on the same level as systematic human rights violations, sorry.

If I wanted free speech I would host my own website.

^this

You actually have no right to free speech on the internet.  You're at the mercy of whoever owns the place you're soapboxing on.

Ironbite-something you should learn.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RavynousHunter on June 15, 2015, 10:42:24 pm
Meh, just because I'm at an admin's mercy doesn't mean I'll cower.  I'll respect their position and authority, but only if they earn said respect.  Sigma has earned that respect.  Others, not so much...some have even earned outright antipathy for basically throwing people who didn't suck their e-cocks under the bus.  However, if I get smacked for being an asshole, I'll not go "MUH FREEDOMS."  If I was in the wrong, I'll admit I'm wrong and endeavor to not be wrong again.  If I wasn't, well, then respect diminished.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Sigmaleph on June 15, 2015, 11:02:24 pm
I love you to, Ravy :)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RavynousHunter on June 16, 2015, 08:19:01 am
I love you to, Ravy :)

Ey, at least you don't go around letting blatant trolls keep posting because they donated to the site.  Yes, that is a thing that actually happened to me.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on June 16, 2015, 01:46:41 pm
(http://media.cagle.com/77/2015/06/09/164965_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RavynousHunter on June 16, 2015, 02:09:12 pm
What a horrible world we live in; where police are actually scrutinized for their actions and held to a professional standard of conduct.  Truly, this is the great tragedy of my generation.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on June 17, 2015, 09:15:36 am
(http://oi58.tinypic.com/2dljkt0.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on June 17, 2015, 04:06:04 pm
(http://oi58.tinypic.com/2dljkt0.jpg)

I love it! He's not perfect but I like this Pope.

The Frums who hate compassion no heart.

They'll call others "bleeding hearts" as a pejorative.

"Bleeding Heart" should be a compliment. Better a heart of blood than a heart of stone.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: guizonde on June 17, 2015, 04:34:06 pm
Better a heart of blood than a heart of stone.

dammit spuki, that's an awesome saying. wish i'd thought of it.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on June 17, 2015, 10:17:43 pm
Better a heart of blood than a heart of stone.

dammit spuki, that's an awesome saying. wish i'd thought of it.

Thanks...but I think I heard it somewhere else. It's a great retort regardless. Why feel insulted by being called a "Bleeding Heart/Lefty/Hippie/Granola Girl/Treehugger/Socialist etc."? Those things should be EMBRACED!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ironchew on June 18, 2015, 03:36:16 pm
(http://oi58.tinypic.com/2dljkt0.jpg)

Does his anti-abortion screed count as science or compassion?

You guys aren't really so stupid as to cherry-pick the happy noises coming out of the mouth of a militant creationist. Stop pretending you are.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: SCarpelan on June 18, 2015, 03:51:04 pm
Does his anti-abortion screed count as science or compassion?

You guys aren't really so stupid as to cherry-pick the happy noises coming out of the mouth of a militant creationist. Stop pretending you are.

Creationist? Catholic church teaches God-guided evolution. You've got a point about anti-abortion attitudes and it's just one of many harmful doctrines. Nothing prevents anyone from taking a nuanced position, though: admonish the church for its many flaws but also give it credit when they take steps to the right direction. Whether we like it or not the pope has huge influence on what a big portion of people on Earth pay attention to and I'll gladly take his support for any righteous cause.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on June 18, 2015, 03:58:34 pm
Does his anti-abortion screed count as science or compassion?

You guys aren't really so stupid as to cherry-pick the happy noises coming out of the mouth of a militant creationist. Stop pretending you are.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIIvpPGYjLs

http://www.newsweek.com/pope-franciss-remarks-evolution-are-not-controversial-among-roman-catholics-281115

You could make the claim that he believes in intelligent design, but he certainly accepts evolution and does not believe that the Earth is just a few thousand years old like the young Earth creationists do (and lets face it, whenever creationism is mentioned usually they are the ones people are talking about.)

Then again, I am kinda on the same line as the pope on this. Just because I am a christian and believe that God created the universe it does not mean that I have to disregard science. I believe that God set things in motion and had no need to fine tune things by making animals and people appear from thin air.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on June 18, 2015, 08:05:03 pm
What did you expect? It's Ironchew.  :P
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Sigmaleph on June 18, 2015, 11:25:03 pm
Does his anti-abortion screed count as science or compassion?

You guys aren't really so stupid as to cherry-pick the happy noises coming out of the mouth of a militant creationist. Stop pretending you are.

Creationist? Catholic church teaches God-guided evolution. You've got a point about anti-abortion attitudes and it's just one of many harmful doctrines. Nothing prevents anyone from taking a nuanced position, though: admonish the church for its many flaws but also give it credit when they take steps to the right direction. Whether we like it or not the pope has huge influence on what a big portion of people on Earth pay attention to and I'll gladly take his support for any righteous cause.

Old Earth creationist.

Anyway, you can disagree with the Pope on some things while agreeing on others! I haven't read the climate change encyclical so I don't know if the comic is accurate, but that question is entirely independent on his stance on abortion or evolution or same-sex marriage or condoms or any of the other things where I think he is wrong.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: lord gibbon on June 19, 2015, 02:10:53 am
Sigma for the win here. I don't expect a friggen POPE to be as progressive as I am on social issues like gay rights and family planning. One step at a time.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on June 22, 2015, 09:38:31 am
(http://media.cagle.com/81/2015/06/19/165371_600.jpg)

What makes this even better is the jab at Neo-Confederates.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on June 22, 2015, 11:53:34 am
(http://media.cagle.com/81/2015/06/19/165371_600.jpg)

What makes this even better is the jab at Neo-Confederates.

Eeyup! Love it!

The Future Home of THIS LITTLE SCRAWNY PUNK.....
(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f226/SpukiKitty/heaven-and-hell-3_zpsrksfkjcf.png) (http://s48.photobucket.com/user/SpukiKitty/media/heaven-and-hell-3_zpsrksfkjcf.png.html)
.....But it's temporary & purgatorial. "Eternal Damnation" is such an evil concept.


The Present Day Home of The Nine.....
(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f226/SpukiKitty/a-new-heaven-and-a-new-earth_zpshyj1w9ql.png) (http://s48.photobucket.com/user/SpukiKitty/media/a-new-heaven-and-a-new-earth_zpshyj1w9ql.png.html)

I may be a NeoPagan but I do have Paradise & Inferno in my worldview. A number of faith traditions do and even the various reports of NDEs confirm it. I know most here don't believe any of this but that's okay by me.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ironchew on June 22, 2015, 02:00:01 pm
I may be a NeoPagan but I do have Paradise & Inferno in my worldview. A number of faith traditions do and even the various reports of NDEs confirm it.

You have depressingly low standards of evidence if you think NDEs confirm anything besides the human brain's capacity to hallucinate wildly before death.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on June 22, 2015, 04:54:55 pm
I may be a NeoPagan but I do have Paradise & Inferno in my worldview. A number of faith traditions do and even the various reports of NDEs confirm it.

You have depressingly low standards of evidence if you think NDEs confirm anything besides the human brain's capacity to hallucinate wildly before death.

(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f226/SpukiKitty/MY%20LITTLE%20PONY%20GIFS/132668785784_zpsudosolhl.gif) (http://s48.photobucket.com/user/SpukiKitty/media/MY%20LITTLE%20PONY%20GIFS/132668785784_zpsudosolhl.gif.html)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on June 24, 2015, 12:10:42 pm
(http://media.cagle.com/95/2015/06/23/165504_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: SCarpelan on June 25, 2015, 10:27:53 am
(https://tyhmyri.files.wordpress.com/2015/06/hukutakreikkalainen.png)

Save the Europe

Drown a Greek
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: guizonde on June 25, 2015, 11:05:55 am
(https://tyhmyri.files.wordpress.com/2015/06/hukutakreikkalainen.png)

Save the Europe

Drown a Greek

a little explanation: the drowner is christine lagarde, president of the fmi, and ex-director of the medef, basically the french ceo union. not exactly well-liked, since she's cutthroat, and hates the poor so much she could be in a mel brooks movie it's taken to such extremes.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: SCarpelan on June 25, 2015, 11:22:53 am
a little explanation: the drowner is christine lagarde, president of the fmi, and ex-director of the medef, basically the french ceo union. not exactly well-liked, since she's cutthroat, and hates the poor so much she could be in a mel brooks movie it's taken to such extremes.
Oh, and FMI = IMF. I didn't know that about Lagarde's background, thanks.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on June 25, 2015, 04:01:07 pm
Same here. Without the explanation, I would've taken it at face value & considered it a "Worst" cartoon.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: mellenORL on June 25, 2015, 06:44:53 pm
I think this tabloid cover qualifies as a cartoon.

(http://i.imgur.com/bCed3R9.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cloud3514 on June 26, 2015, 12:13:34 am
*sigh* I'm embarassed to admit that I still have to work with an anarcho-capitalist who refuses to believe that Trump is racist and thinks he'll win because he has money for another two weeks.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on June 26, 2015, 12:18:06 am
(http://media.cagle.com/180/2015/06/19/165355_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on June 26, 2015, 01:50:09 am
I think this tabloid cover qualifies as a cartoon.

(http://i.imgur.com/bCed3R9.jpg)

You know, that cover's awesome!  ;D
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: SCarpelan on June 26, 2015, 02:24:18 am
Same here. Without the explanation, I would've taken it at face value & considered it a "Worst" cartoon.
If you know what IMF has done in the Greek debt negotiations you don't have to know her background. It's enough to see the IMF button on her shirt and her drowning a Greek.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Zygarde on June 26, 2015, 12:43:49 pm
In light of recent events

(https://a.disquscdn.com/uploads/mediaembed/images/2203/2745/original.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: R. U. Sirius on June 26, 2015, 04:08:33 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/7NKicJd.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: mellenORL on June 26, 2015, 08:26:09 pm
I want to turn that into a wrap around design on a t-shirt. So much win.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on June 27, 2015, 11:07:01 am
(http://media.cagle.com/98/2015/06/26/165699_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on June 28, 2015, 03:26:22 am
In light of recent events

(https://a.disquscdn.com/uploads/mediaembed/images/2203/2745/original.jpg)

BEAUTIFUL!!!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Meshakhad on June 28, 2015, 03:00:10 pm
Does his anti-abortion screed count as science or compassion?

You guys aren't really so stupid as to cherry-pick the happy noises coming out of the mouth of a militant creationist. Stop pretending you are.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIIvpPGYjLs

http://www.newsweek.com/pope-franciss-remarks-evolution-are-not-controversial-among-roman-catholics-281115

You could make the claim that he believes in intelligent design, but he certainly accepts evolution and does not believe that the Earth is just a few thousand years old like the young Earth creationists do (and lets face it, whenever creationism is mentioned usually they are the ones people are talking about.)

Then again, I am kinda on the same line as the pope on this. Just because I am a christian and believe that God created the universe it does not mean that I have to disregard science. I believe that God set things in motion and had no need to fine tune things by making animals and people appear from thin air.

Same here. I believe G-d created the universe 14 billion years ago.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on June 30, 2015, 01:56:05 am
There are SO many comics about the new marriage laws in USA and the Confederate flag thingy and most of them are pretty similar. This one at least is slightly clever:

(http://40.media.tumblr.com/a9f916bf1dfd28033ebb786dffb2ab3e/tumblr_nqpx94PmUf1qz9bu3o1_1280.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lt. Fred on June 30, 2015, 03:49:35 am
BEST.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Sylvana on June 30, 2015, 05:58:57 am
(http://media.cagle.com/180/2015/06/19/165355_600.jpg)

Who is that? He is wearing the old South African flag. I would suspect that he is the recent church shooter, but I was unaware of any affiliation he had to South Africa.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: mellenORL on June 30, 2015, 10:14:42 am
Roofie is quite the groupie of old apartheid South Africa and Rhodesia. His web page domain is lastrhodesian.com, IIRC.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on July 02, 2015, 05:26:18 pm
(http://media.cagle.com/46/2015/07/01/165928_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on July 03, 2015, 10:28:28 pm
In light of recent events

(https://a.disquscdn.com/uploads/mediaembed/images/2203/2745/original.jpg)

Remember how we commented on this cartoon?

Well, it's a re-edit of another....
http://m.snopes.com/2015/06/29/splc-confederate-gay-flag-comic/
Someone took a cartoon involving just the Confederate Battle Flag and reworked it into a cartoon about the backlash against the Confederate flag & the victory for Same-Sex marriage.

That said, I still like the re-working because, I find it powerful & beautiful and it echoes the moment when the USSR fell and The Cold War ended. I remember seeing on TV, a night time shot of a flagpole, with the Soviet flag being lowered and the new Russian one being raised in it's place. It looked exactly like this above cartoon. The old stodgy, repressive order being replaced by the (in the perspective of 1991-92, anyway) illustrious and new....ripe with possibilities.

.....Of course, some (particularly Russians) might see that as tragic but in the early 1990s, to me and many in the West, this was cool. As a teen, I may have been a tad naive, politically, but I had no idea how things would turn out in the Eastern Bloc. I knew of Peristroika & Glastnost, a country that was considered oppressive falling, The Cold War ending, Germany becoming one country & The Berlin Wall falling, The Solidarity Movement in Poland, The overthrow & execution of Ceauseceu, and a bunch of other stuff. I didn't really know what Communism was, I just knew it as that oppressive Stalinist stuff.

There was a certain political innocence in the 1990's. It seemed to me that things were going to simmer down and get better, that the worst was over, that we learned the lessons of Vietnam, That The Cold War was dead, Russia was our new friend, things were more Progressive & the band, Jesus Jones sang "Right Here, Right Now"....any other political turmoil would be minor in the big scheme of things. The horrors of the war in the former Yugoslavia was a tiny, isolated thing, I felt bad for them but in the big scheme of things, it wasn't huge.

I had no idea that the GOP was turning wingnut. I didn't pay attention to all that jazz about Reagan, "Trickle-Down Economics", Union-busting or whatever.

Bill Clinton would succeed Bush Sr. & apart from a silly sex scandal, he'd come out okay and America was finally in "the black", there were "Green Aesops" & Captain Planet cartoons. It seemed everybody was waking up & headed for a more hopeful future.

On 9/11, the innocence was completely shattered. Then Bush Jr. came, another "Vietnam", America "in the red" again, the wingnuts made themselves known, security measures up the wazoo & basically some rollbacks on human rights & a new "Gilded Age".

When the Obergefell vs. Hodges ruling came and people like Sanders, Clinton & Webb running, I've become hopefull again. Most of America wants a change and we're waking up. The old hopefulness of the Nineties has returned and, since it's a Presidential Election year, ton of American are going to turn out at the polls.

Perhaps the U.S.A. is finally coming out of the woods!

Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on July 03, 2015, 11:11:43 pm
(http://media.cagle.com/180/2015/07/01/165906_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lady Evil on July 04, 2015, 05:53:39 pm
(http://media.cagle.com/46/2015/07/01/165928_600.jpg)

What happened to the poor dino's ribs?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RavynousHunter on July 04, 2015, 06:14:51 pm
(http://media.cagle.com/46/2015/07/01/165928_600.jpg)

What happened to the poor dino's ribs?

Budget cuts.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Igor on July 04, 2015, 06:22:32 pm
(http://media.cagle.com/46/2015/07/01/165928_600.jpg)

What happened to the poor dino's ribs?

Budget cuts.
It's a spinosaur!

...I'll see myself out.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: guizonde on July 05, 2015, 10:23:28 am
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on July 05, 2015, 03:55:10 pm
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ZING!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on July 05, 2015, 05:40:31 pm
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: guizonde on July 06, 2015, 04:54:41 am
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: guizonde on July 07, 2015, 11:30:40 am
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ironchew on July 07, 2015, 12:00:54 pm
Sounds to me like Greece staved off further bullshit that would have only concentrated wealth in the hands of the few.

Of course most economists would act like it's all doom and gloom because they make apologetic just-so stories for the whims of the wealthy elite.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lady Evil on July 07, 2015, 12:47:04 pm
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Belongs in Awesome Protest Signs, but it's cool anyway.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on July 07, 2015, 12:51:00 pm
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Belongs in Awesome Protest Signs, but it's cool anyway.

Agreed.  Crossposting it there right now.

Sounds to me like Greece staved off further bullshit that would have only concentrated wealth in the hands of the few.

Of course most economists would act like it's all doom and gloom because they make apologetic just-so stories for the whims of the wealthy elite.

Discounting the word of experts just because it doesn't gel with your politics?  You remind me of a Global Warming denialist.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ironchew on July 07, 2015, 01:10:39 pm
Discounting the word of experts just because it doesn't gel with your politics?  You remind me of a Global Warming denialist.

That's cute, UP. Demonstrate that economic policy is scientific and I'd reconsider.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RavynousHunter on July 07, 2015, 05:26:27 pm
If its based off of actual numbers and properly-made statistical models, then it'd be scientific by proxy.  Statistics is as much a science as it is a form of math.  However, if one's economic policy is based off of bullshit, then it is, by proxy, also bullshit.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lt. Fred on July 07, 2015, 05:29:59 pm
Most non-dishonest economists - Krugrman, Delong, Pikkety, Stiglitz - agree with Ironchew, UP. So definitely the arrogant dismissal of alternate views is a good idea.

I'm going to create a thread.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on July 07, 2015, 10:57:08 pm
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on July 09, 2015, 01:15:06 pm
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on July 09, 2015, 02:02:21 pm
In fairness, you could write something very similar about Anthony Kennedy.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on July 09, 2015, 04:16:57 pm
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I would love a sequel in which Same-Sex marriage is passed and the Ghost of Lady Liberty punches Scalia so hard that he ends up in a coma!

I hate stories with "karma houdinis".

Is there a way to write the artist? I would love a sequel where that happens.

"Dear Ruben. I demand a sequel where Scalia gets punched by Lady Liberty".

...or at least Justice Ginsburg....or Ginsburg, Sotomayor & Kagan in the form of a spoof of "Charlie's Angels".
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on July 09, 2015, 05:38:10 pm
Quote
I am certainly not an advocate for frequent and untried changes in laws and constitutions. I think moderate imperfections had better be borne with; because, when once known, we accomodate ourselves to them and find practical means of correcting their ill effects. But I know also that laws and institutions must go hand in hand with the progress of the human mind. As that becomes more developed, more enlightened, as new discoveries are made, new truths disclosed and manners and opinions change with the change of circumstances, institutions must advance also and keep pace with the times.

–Thomas Jefferson to Samuel Kercheval, 1816. ME 15:40

TL;DR Jefferson thinks Scalia's full of shit.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on July 10, 2015, 11:27:37 pm
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ironchew on July 11, 2015, 12:59:44 am
A man lecturing women on good and bad feminism is incredibly patronizing.

Just super saiyan.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ghoti on July 11, 2015, 05:31:37 am
A man lecturing women on good and bad feminism is incredibly patronizing.

Just super saiyan.
(http://www.clipular.com/c/5219817901522944.png?k=Ve-VKNJuGPS8bdMMEdPyl-3ytEQ)
...I mean you have a point, but...
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Dakota Bob on July 11, 2015, 09:08:52 am


I would love a sequel in which Same-Sex marriage is passed and the Ghost of Lady Liberty punches Scalia so hard that he ends up in a coma!

I hate stories with "karma houdinis".

Is there a way to write the artist? I would love a sequel where that happens.

"Dear Ruben. I demand a sequel where Scalia gets punched by Lady Liberty".

...or at least Justice Ginsburg....or Ginsburg, Sotomayor & Kagan in the form of a spoof of "Charlie's Angels".

https://twitter.com/rubenbolling
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ironchew on July 11, 2015, 12:48:25 pm
A man lecturing women on good and bad feminism is incredibly patronizing.

Just super saiyan.
(http://www.clipular.com/c/5219817901522944.png?k=Ve-VKNJuGPS8bdMMEdPyl-3ytEQ)
...I mean you have a point, but...

Pretty sure the author is a guy*. Also UP brought it up to lecture feminists.

(http://i.imgur.com/pZPHK6c.gif)

* standard misgendering disclaimer: I don't know for certain.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Sigmaleph on July 11, 2015, 04:33:00 pm
The author is in fact a guy. This guy:

(click to show/hide)

The implications of that fact on his opinions on feminism are left as an exercise for the reader.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on July 11, 2015, 06:33:24 pm
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on July 11, 2015, 09:52:05 pm


I would love a sequel in which Same-Sex marriage is passed and the Ghost of Lady Liberty punches Scalia so hard that he ends up in a coma!

I hate stories with "karma houdinis".

Is there a way to write the artist? I would love a sequel where that happens.

"Dear Ruben. I demand a sequel where Scalia gets punched by Lady Liberty".

...or at least Justice Ginsburg....or Ginsburg, Sotomayor & Kagan in the form of a spoof of "Charlie's Angels".

https://twitter.com/rubenbolling

Thanks.

Heck, I could do it myself!

I'm a decent artist.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ghoti on July 12, 2015, 03:39:01 am
The author is in fact a guy. This guy:

(click to show/hide)

The implications of that fact on his opinions on feminism are left as an exercise for the reader.
Ohhhhh, now I get it.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on July 12, 2015, 03:14:55 pm
The author is in fact a guy. This guy:

(click to show/hide)

The implications of that fact on his opinions on feminism are left as an exercise for the reader.
Ohhhhh, now I get it.

Can you explain? I don't get it.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on July 13, 2015, 01:15:35 am
The author is in fact a guy. This guy:

(click to show/hide)

The implications of that fact on his opinions on feminism are left as an exercise for the reader.
Ohhhhh, now I get it.

Can you explain? I don't get it.
Because the cartoonist is a guy it means that a) He is not a feminist.  b) A guy telling how women/feminists should act is badwrong.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ironchew on July 13, 2015, 02:22:39 am
The author is in fact a guy. This guy:

(click to show/hide)

The implications of that fact on his opinions on feminism are left as an exercise for the reader.
Ohhhhh, now I get it.

Can you explain? I don't get it.
Because the cartoonist is a guy it means that a) He is not a feminist.  b) A guy telling how women/feminists should act is badwrong.

Well, let's just say that the pathetic straw-feminist and the fact that UP thought it was a good political cartoon set off all my red flags. Men instructing feminists on how to behave properly comes off as patronizing and the straw feminist really didn't help.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Sigmaleph on July 13, 2015, 09:28:25 am
Well, let's just say that the pathetic straw-feminist and the fact that UP thought it was a good political cartoon set off all my red flags. Men instructing feminists on how to behave properly comes off as patronizing and the straw feminist really didn't help.

What do you mean by straw-feminist? The implication that some feminists exist that tell women how they should live their lives based on their particular feminist ideology?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on July 13, 2015, 09:44:47 am
The author is in fact a guy. This guy:

(click to show/hide)

The implications of that fact on his opinions on feminism are left as an exercise for the reader.
Ohhhhh, now I get it.

Can you explain? I don't get it.
Because the cartoonist is a guy it means that a) He is not a feminist.  b) A guy telling how women/feminists should act is badwrong.

Well, let's just say that the pathetic straw-feminist and the fact that UP thought it was a good political cartoon set off all my red flags. Men instructing feminists on how to behave properly comes off as patronizing and the straw feminist really didn't help.

Look, I'm a feminist, but there are certain types of feminism, and certain aspects of the movement that I'm critical of.  One of the things I'm critical of is certain feminists trying to dictate how women "should" act. 

Now, a lot of you may be asking if it's really my place to criticize.  I'm going to be blunt with you: yes, it is.  Even if I weren't a feminist, feminism still has effects on my life.  The cartoonist may identify as a feminist, or he may not.  It doesn't matter either way.  Assuming he isn't, he still recognizes the fact that there are good types of feminism out there, which is more than can be said for certain people.  Furthermore, I believe that nothing is above criticism. 

(http://static1.quoteswave.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/The-moment-you-declare.jpg?03d4a8)

And a common refrain is that "feminism is for men too".  If it's supposedly for me, why aren't I allowed to express my opinion on it?

Besides, by that logic, an atheist isn't allowed to have an opinion on religion.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on July 14, 2015, 01:49:48 pm
I'm siding with Paragon on this one.

U.P. may sometimes make dumb statements like "I think Chris Christie is okay" (No offense, Paragon, but....While Christie MIGHT not be a superstitious Bible-Butt like the others, he's still a big bullying, 'Boss Tweed'-like jackass) but in this case, he's okay. I'm a feminist and even I find those extreme RadFems annoying! As a Liberal Feminist, I feel that men are NOT the enemy and that men can be Feminists too.

A woman who CHOOSES FOR HERSELF a life as a homemaker should be just as respected as a woman who CHOOSES FOR HERSELF a life as a Scientist or CEO. Likewise, I'm sex-positive and I have nothing against a woman being feminine. Nothing is truly black & white.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lt. Fred on July 14, 2015, 05:12:17 pm
Depends on the Radical Feminist, I guess. Transphobes can fuck right off, for instance.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on July 14, 2015, 09:42:26 pm
Depends on the Radical Feminist, I guess. Transphobes can fuck right off, for instance.

True. TERFs are turds.  ;D
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on July 14, 2015, 09:44:24 pm
Depends on the Radical Feminist, I guess. Transphobes can fuck right off, for instance.

True. TERFs are turds.  ;D

I agree.  And SWERFs are shit.

But we should be careful about generalizing radical feminists.  Not all radfems are man-haters, and vice versa.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: guizonde on July 14, 2015, 10:46:29 pm
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on July 15, 2015, 09:24:01 am
Depends on the Radical Feminist, I guess. Transphobes can fuck right off, for instance.

True. TERFs are turds.  ;D

I agree.  And SWERFs are shit.

But we should be careful about generalizing radical feminists.  Not all radfems are man-haters, and vice versa.

True. I may not agree with their approach to to certain things but I shouldn't turn them all into Ivan The Terrible.

I have to look up "SWERF".....Be back in a moment.......

I'm back...."Sex Worker Exclusionary Radical Feminist"....I agree, they're *BLAAAAUUUGGGHH*!

Nothing irritates me more than some super-sex-negative RadFem. Gals like the late Andrea Dworkin only help out the "Religious Right Moral Guardian" types.

Porn & Prostitution needs reform, not banning. SWERFs are a bunch of dried up nasty prudes who hate the fact that people love having lots of kinky sex.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: guizonde on July 15, 2015, 09:39:09 am
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mad lib: obama's ________ will DESTROY american ________.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Damen on July 15, 2015, 04:47:15 pm
mad lib: obama's gigantic penis will DESTROY american trees.

I'm going to enjoy this. ;D
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on July 15, 2015, 09:38:21 pm
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on July 16, 2015, 01:30:18 am
mad lib: obama's gigantic penis will DESTROY american trees.

I'm going to enjoy this. ;D

I'd pay to see that....except the GOP would probably be happy to see trees destroyed.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lt. Fred on July 16, 2015, 02:38:17 am
Depends on the Radical Feminist, I guess. Transphobes can fuck right off, for instance.

True. TERFs are turds.  ;D

I agree.  And SWERFs are shit.

But we should be careful about generalizing radical feminists.  Not all radfems are man-haters, and vice versa.

What is a SWERF?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on July 16, 2015, 08:30:15 am
Depends on the Radical Feminist, I guess. Transphobes can fuck right off, for instance.

True. TERFs are turds.  ;D

I agree.  And SWERFs are shit.

But we should be careful about generalizing radical feminists.  Not all radfems are man-haters, and vice versa.

What is a SWERF?

Sex worker-exclusive radical feminist.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lt. Fred on July 16, 2015, 05:55:48 pm
Depends on the Radical Feminist, I guess. Transphobes can fuck right off, for instance.

True. TERFs are turds.  ;D

I agree.  And SWERFs are shit.

But we should be careful about generalizing radical feminists.  Not all radfems are man-haters, and vice versa.

What is a SWERF?

Sex worker-exclusive radical feminist.

I don't know where I stand on that issue. I think both sides have a reasonable case.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on July 17, 2015, 01:13:24 am
Depends on the Radical Feminist, I guess. Transphobes can fuck right off, for instance.

True. TERFs are turds.  ;D

I agree.  And SWERFs are shit.

But we should be careful about generalizing radical feminists.  Not all radfems are man-haters, and vice versa.

What is a SWERF?

Sex worker-exclusive radical feminist.

I don't know where I stand on that issue. I think both sides have a reasonable case.

Let's make this easy: Would you like to have the sex workers have basic human rights? Would you like them to have work safe without the risk of being exploited or harmed by clients? Because there are going to be sex workers, people are going to pay for sex, stopping that is pretty much impossible. What you can do is legalize it and then put it under control by making laws that not only protect the customers from STDs (by allowing the sex workers to have regular medical checkups without the risk of being arrested and so on) but also protect the workers from exploitation because they can actually go to police if they have something to complain about (without also going to jail for being a prostitute.)

The biggest problems have always been sex slaves and crime organizations controlling prostitution. By having legal organizations people are way more likely to go for them rather than the illegal option.


OR you could simply go with the SWERFs and demand that all prostitution must be illegal and that everyone involved in it must be jailed. This will push the trade underground and those who suffer the most from this are the sex workers.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lt. Fred on July 17, 2015, 03:22:29 am
The counter argument is that you want to ban prostitution and other sex work because it is fundamentally demeaning and a symbol of a deeply sick, misogynistic society.

As I said, I'm not sure which is true.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on July 17, 2015, 05:30:03 am
But it is not necessarily demeaning. That has more to do with the cultural stigma than what is actually happening and if you believe that people are allowed to choose who they have sex with there is nothing wrong with prostitution (unless minors are involved or someone has been forced into becoming a prostitute but those can be dealt with more ease if sex trade is not illegal.)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lt. Fred on July 17, 2015, 06:37:59 am
But it is not necessarily demeaning. That has more to do with the cultural stigma than what is actually happening and if you believe that people are allowed to choose who they have sex with there is nothing wrong with prostitution (unless minors are involved or someone has been forced into becoming a prostitute but those can be dealt with more ease if sex trade is not illegal.)

Yes, there is a counter-case. I'm not sure, as I said, which argument I accept. I think both have merit.

Obviously I'd not want to outright BAN prostitution, because that just wouldn't work from an implementation perspective. But what should be the objective of policy - to make prostitution a more 'democratic' job, for lack of a better word - or to discourage it as much as possible, while avoiding the inevitable unintended consequences of banning?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RavynousHunter on July 17, 2015, 08:46:22 am
Categorical imperative.  Make sex work safe, clean, and acceptable.  More people are happy, more people are able to pursue work that they find enjoyable (yes, there are sex workers that do the job because they like it), and more people are able to pursue their work in a secure environment where their safety is a priority.  Conversely, the social stigma (which leads to the discouragement of which you speak), would spread unhappiness and would bar people from choosing work which they find fulfilling.  Therefore, logically, legalizing and regulating sex work is the superior course of action.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Sigmaleph on July 17, 2015, 04:26:39 pm
There was a post here. It's gone now. Sorry.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Canadian Mojo on July 17, 2015, 08:38:08 pm
But it is not necessarily demeaning. That has more to do with the cultural stigma than what is actually happening and if you believe that people are allowed to choose who they have sex with there is nothing wrong with prostitution (unless minors are involved or someone has been forced into becoming a prostitute but those can be dealt with more ease if sex trade is not illegal.)

Yes, there is a counter-case. I'm not sure, as I said, which argument I accept. I think both have merit.

Obviously I'd not want to outright BAN prostitution, because that just wouldn't work from an implementation perspective. But what should be the objective of policy - to make prostitution a more 'democratic' job, for lack of a better word - or to discourage it as much as possible, while avoiding the inevitable unintended consequences of banning?

Why do you even need an objective?

Make it safe and let grown-ups decide for themselves what to do with it.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lt. Fred on July 17, 2015, 08:45:10 pm
But it is not necessarily demeaning. That has more to do with the cultural stigma than what is actually happening and if you believe that people are allowed to choose who they have sex with there is nothing wrong with prostitution (unless minors are involved or someone has been forced into becoming a prostitute but those can be dealt with more ease if sex trade is not illegal.)

Yes, there is a counter-case. I'm not sure, as I said, which argument I accept. I think both have merit.

Obviously I'd not want to outright BAN prostitution, because that just wouldn't work from an implementation perspective. But what should be the objective of policy - to make prostitution a more 'democratic' job, for lack of a better word - or to discourage it as much as possible, while avoiding the inevitable unintended consequences of banning?

Why do you even need an objective?

Make it safe and let grown-ups decide for themselves what to do with it.

Well, if you accept that prostitution and the sale of womens' bodies is a fundamental part of the patriarchy than yeah!

Edit: The problem with just leaving it up to employers and employees is that it's the freedom of the market - you're free to sell your body or to starve to death. There is always an element of compulsion. That's why markets work.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Eiki-mun on July 17, 2015, 08:49:32 pm
And do you also ban male prostitution?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lt. Fred on July 17, 2015, 08:55:21 pm
And do you also ban male prostitution?

That's the thing, right - bans 100% will not work and everyone knows it, so it becomes a problem of implementation. How do you discourage and gradually eradicate prostitution without driving it underground and turning all the prostitutes into sex slaves?

The Scandinavian model is okay I guess? Not sure how effective it's been but that's the sort of thing you'd be looking at.

But if you don't accept that prostitution is fundamentally degrading - and that's totally the thing I don't know if I agree with or not - then there's no need. It's super easy - you just legalise it completely, regulate like any business and encourage some sick worker's cooperatives or unionisation.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Eiki-mun on July 17, 2015, 08:58:57 pm
I do not accept that prostitution is fundamentally degrading. In fact, I would go so far as to say the only reason we perceive it as such is due to the pervasive influence of Judeo-Christian religion on our societal values and taboos.

But that's just, like, my opinion, man.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lt. Fred on July 17, 2015, 09:07:42 pm
I do not accept that prostitution is fundamentally degrading. In fact, I would go so far as to say the only reason we perceive it as such is due to the pervasive influence of Judeo-Christian religion on our societal values and taboos.

But that's just, like, my opinion, man.

Xactly. It's actually a matter of opinion reasonable people can disagree about, and it shits me to no end that both sides treat the other like they must be burnt at the stake for violating some fundamental tenant of feminism.

Really the way to deal with this is to do nothing is policy terms until there is a rough consensus within the feminist movement, or (more likely) until circumstances make the disagreement irrelevant.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on July 17, 2015, 11:49:44 pm
And do you also ban male prostitution?

That's the thing, right - bans 100% will not work and everyone knows it, so it becomes a problem of implementation. How do you discourage and gradually eradicate prostitution without driving it underground and turning all the prostitutes into sex slaves?

The Scandinavian model is okay I guess? Not sure how effective it's been but that's the sort of thing you'd be looking at.

But if you don't accept that prostitution is fundamentally degrading - and that's totally the thing I don't know if I agree with or not - then there's no need. It's super easy - you just legalise it completely, regulate like any business and encourage some sick worker's cooperatives or unionisation.

Your answer has nothing to do with the question. You fail, come see the teacher after the class.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lt. Fred on July 18, 2015, 03:23:45 am
Obviously you would treat all kinds of prostitution the same.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RavynousHunter on July 18, 2015, 09:03:43 am
Current, illegal prostitution is very degrading, but that's not because of the practice itself, but because of abusive pimps who keep their prostitutes in line with a combination of hopelessness and fear that, should they ever go to the authorities, that they'd simply be arrested instead of have their abuse investigated.  Ask women at places like the Bunny Ranch in Nevada if they feel exploited or degraded.  They work in an environment, and an area, where prostitution is legal.  They're kept clean (via regular STD screenings and mandatory condom use), safe (from what I've gathered, these places have very strict security), happy.  The practice is only ever degrading when its kept illegal, and even then, its due to a third party.  You seem to forget, Fred, that women who sell themselves at places like the Bunny Ranch do so entirely by choice.  If we deny people the ability to sell what they want (within reason), up to and including their bodies, then we deny them autonomy.  We deny them the ability to decide for themselves, as consenting, informed adults, what they do with their bodies.  If they make a choice that, later on, turns out to be stupid, then it is not our place as a society to punish them, but to help them.  The natural consequences are punishment enough.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on July 18, 2015, 03:42:06 pm
Current, illegal prostitution is very degrading, but that's not because of the practice itself, but because of abusive pimps who keep their prostitutes in line with a combination of hopelessness and fear that, should they ever go to the authorities, that they'd simply be arrested instead of have their abuse investigated.  Ask women at places like the Bunny Ranch in Nevada if they feel exploited or degraded.  They work in an environment, and an area, where prostitution is legal.  They're kept clean (via regular STD screenings and mandatory condom use), safe (from what I've gathered, these places have very strict security), happy.  The practice is only ever degrading when its kept illegal, and even then, its due to a third party.  You seem to forget, Fred, that women who sell themselves at places like the Bunny Ranch do so entirely by choice.  If we deny people the ability to sell what they want (within reason), up to and including their bodies, then we deny them autonomy.  We deny them the ability to decide for themselves, as consenting, informed adults, what they do with their bodies.  If they make a choice that, later on, turns out to be stupid, then it is not our place as a society to punish them, but to help them.  The natural consequences are punishment enough.


And what makes The Bunny Ranch also cool is that it's REGULATED. Regulation is key! Without regulation you get the legalized prostitution in Germany that's still made up of sex-slaves.

I'm all for legalizing prostitution but such things still need regulations.

Regulations are good, they keep businesses, manufacturers & products on the up-and-up and keep the more malevolent impulses of corrupt CEOs & Banks under control. All that deregulating during the past 30 years in the States was the worst thing ever done!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lt. Fred on July 18, 2015, 05:22:18 pm
Current, illegal prostitution is very degrading, but that's not because of the practice itself, but because of abusive pimps who keep their prostitutes in line with a combination of hopelessness and fear that, should they ever go to the authorities, that they'd simply be arrested instead of have their abuse investigated.  Ask women at places like the Bunny Ranch in Nevada if they feel exploited or degraded.  They work in an environment, and an area, where prostitution is legal.  They're kept clean (via regular STD screenings and mandatory condom use), safe (from what I've gathered, these places have very strict security), happy.  The practice is only ever degrading when its kept illegal, and even then, its due to a third party.  You seem to forget, Fred, that women who sell themselves at places like the Bunny Ranch do so entirely by choice.  If we deny people the ability to sell what they want (within reason), up to and including their bodies, then we deny them autonomy.  We deny them the ability to decide for themselves, as consenting, informed adults, what they do with their bodies.  If they make a choice that, later on, turns out to be stupid, then it is not our place as a society to punish them, but to help them.  The natural consequences are punishment enough.

If you accept that prostitution isn't part of the patriarchy, that's the way to go, yeah.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Eiki-mun on July 18, 2015, 05:25:06 pm
Current, illegal prostitution is very degrading, but that's not because of the practice itself, but because of abusive pimps who keep their prostitutes in line with a combination of hopelessness and fear that, should they ever go to the authorities, that they'd simply be arrested instead of have their abuse investigated.  Ask women at places like the Bunny Ranch in Nevada if they feel exploited or degraded.  They work in an environment, and an area, where prostitution is legal.  They're kept clean (via regular STD screenings and mandatory condom use), safe (from what I've gathered, these places have very strict security), happy.  The practice is only ever degrading when its kept illegal, and even then, its due to a third party.  You seem to forget, Fred, that women who sell themselves at places like the Bunny Ranch do so entirely by choice.  If we deny people the ability to sell what they want (within reason), up to and including their bodies, then we deny them autonomy.  We deny them the ability to decide for themselves, as consenting, informed adults, what they do with their bodies.  If they make a choice that, later on, turns out to be stupid, then it is not our place as a society to punish them, but to help them.  The natural consequences are punishment enough.

If you accept that prostitution isn't part of the patriarchy, that's the way to go, yeah.

What exactly is "the patriarchy" in your mind, and why is prostitution "part" of it, whatever that means? Is not prostitution the act of selling your sexual favors for goods and services? While it is, obviously, a largely female-dominated industry, there is no reason why it has to be, and in fact in a more fair and equal society, male prostitutes would have nearly as many opportunities as female prostitutes. Why must the act of selling sexual favors for goods and services be an inherent part of "the patriarchy" for you?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lt. Fred on July 18, 2015, 05:46:00 pm
https://finallyfeminism101.wordpress.com/2007/03/21/faq-isnt-the-patriarchy-just-some-conspiracy-theory-that-blames-all-men-even-decent-men-for-womens-woes/ (https://finallyfeminism101.wordpress.com/2007/03/21/faq-isnt-the-patriarchy-just-some-conspiracy-theory-that-blames-all-men-even-decent-men-for-womens-woes/)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Eiki-mun on July 18, 2015, 05:53:56 pm
That's a nice link, but it tells me nothing about why you believe that the act of selling sexual favors for goods and services is inherently patriarchal. Actually, I'd go so far as to say it doesn't really tell me much at all.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on July 18, 2015, 08:51:05 pm
This is why I'm a Sex-Positive Feminist. None of that silliness with us. We don't toss the baby out with the bathwater and we KNOW that part of Women's Liberation is SEXUAL Liberation!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Canadian Mojo on July 18, 2015, 09:14:59 pm
But it is not necessarily demeaning. That has more to do with the cultural stigma than what is actually happening and if you believe that people are allowed to choose who they have sex with there is nothing wrong with prostitution (unless minors are involved or someone has been forced into becoming a prostitute but those can be dealt with more ease if sex trade is not illegal.)

Yes, there is a counter-case. I'm not sure, as I said, which argument I accept. I think both have merit.

Obviously I'd not want to outright BAN prostitution, because that just wouldn't work from an implementation perspective. But what should be the objective of policy - to make prostitution a more 'democratic' job, for lack of a better word - or to discourage it as much as possible, while avoiding the inevitable unintended consequences of banning?

Why do you even need an objective?

Make it safe and let grown-ups decide for themselves what to do with it.

Well, if you accept that prostitution and the sale of womens' bodies is a fundamental part of the patriarchy than yeah!

Edit: The problem with just leaving it up to employers and employees is that it's the freedom of the market - you're free to sell your body or to starve to death. There is always an element of compulsion. That's why markets work.

So you're saying that women having a commodity men want automatically makes it 'the patriarchy' even if you create a situation where women control the market (i.e. through rigorous regulation)?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Zygarde on July 18, 2015, 09:25:05 pm
Okay, so I didn't want to get into this conversation cause it seemed to...unstable, but now I'm going to weigh in. In my opinion I think prostitution should be legal and regulated. Look people are gonna sell their bodies regardless if it's legal or not the best thing we can do is make it so that women and men who do can be protected and the profession can be regulated. Hell I'll use an example that we all agree with; abortion.

When abortion was illegal people still did it but they did it in unsafe and often dangerous environments which often resulted in deaths of those seeking an abortion, but now that it's not only legal but regulated and safe we have basically no deaths from it, the same can be applied with prostitution so long as it's illegal it's a dangerous profession that leads to unnecessary deaths via either STI's, overzealous pimps or clients who want to kill "whores", people who want to sell their bodies of their own volition deserve to do it in a safe and regulated place where they don't run the risk of dying.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lt. Fred on July 18, 2015, 10:00:49 pm
That's a nice link, but it tells me nothing about why you believe that the act of selling sexual favors for goods and services is inherently patriarchal. Actually, I'd go so far as to say it doesn't really tell me much at all.

I don't necessarily believe that prostitution is always part of the patriarchy. Some people do. I don't disagree. I think there's a reasonable case that honest people can disagree about.

Okay, so I didn't want to get into this conversation cause it seemed to...unstable, but now I'm going to weigh in. In my opinion I think prostitution should be legal and regulated. Look people are gonna sell their bodies regardless if it's legal or not the best thing we can do is make it so that women and men who do can be protected and the profession can be regulated. Hell I'll use an example that we all agree with; abortion.

When abortion was illegal people still did it but they did it in unsafe and often dangerous environments which often resulted in deaths of those seeking an abortion, but now that it's not only legal but regulated and safe we have basically no deaths from it, the same can be applied with prostitution so long as it's illegal it's a dangerous profession that leads to unnecessary deaths via either STI's, overzealous pimps or clients who want to kill "whores", people who want to sell their bodies of their own volition deserve to do it in a safe and regulated place where they don't run the risk of dying.

Nobody* thinks prostitution should be banned outright. Some people think it's A-okay, and other people think it's problematic and should be discouraged in a way that isn't stupid - ie, not through a ban. I've laid out one alternative above.

The question is to the fundamental nature of prostitution. Is it empowering or disempowering? That's something people can disagree on - and I think silly propaganda terms like "pro-sex" aren't helping anyone understand that important and difficult question. All members of both sides* are genuine feminists.

* That is worth taking seriously.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Eiki-mun on July 18, 2015, 10:56:11 pm
That's a nice link, but it tells me nothing about why you believe that the act of selling sexual favors for goods and services is inherently patriarchal. Actually, I'd go so far as to say it doesn't really tell me much at all.

I don't necessarily believe that prostitution is always part of the patriarchy. Some people do. I don't disagree. I think there's a reasonable case that honest people can disagree about.


Now you're just being confusing. If you don't believe that prostitution is an inherent part of the patriarchy, then why don't you disagree with those who say it does? There isn't exactly a middle ground here. Either you agree with someone, or you disagree with them, or you have no opinion on the matter and therefore no real ground to argue the matter on at all. So which is it?

Allow me to make myself clear: In your own personal opinion, do you think that selling ones sexual favors for goods and services is inherently patriarchal? And if you do not, why do you not disagree with those who do?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lt. Fred on July 18, 2015, 11:13:15 pm
I don't think the answer is yet known, and I think those who claim it is are wrong.

Edit: Let me put it this way. There are questions that have a clear answer. 1+1 is 2. Universal health insurance is a necessity. Urban highways are bad. Feminism is good. If you don't accept the right answer you're a hack, and deserve derision.

This is not one of those questions.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on July 19, 2015, 02:15:33 am
I don't think the answer is yet known, and I think those who claim it is are wrong.

Edit: Let me put it this way. There are questions that have a clear answer. 1+1 is 2. Universal health insurance is a necessity. Urban highways are bad. Feminism is good. If you don't accept the right answer you're a hack, and deserve derision.

This is not one of those questions.

(http://i.imgur.com/r46V2hU.jpg)

You just took several complicated issues and claimed that some of them have obvious solutions (and insulted everyone who disagrees) AND you are claiming that the one difficult issue where you haven't made up your mind is unique in being so complicated.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lt. Fred on July 19, 2015, 02:43:30 am
I don't think there's any real debate about those issues.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Canadian Mojo on July 19, 2015, 03:30:33 am
I don't think there's any real debate about those issues.
You don't.

Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on July 19, 2015, 04:37:50 am
I don't think there's any real debate about those issues.
You don't.



I kinda want to know where Fred lives if he hasn't seen any debate or disagreements about universal healthcare. Actually, I want to know how he claims that there is no debate on feminism. Because this very forum has had several threads on which feminism has been debated.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lt. Fred on July 19, 2015, 04:41:21 am
I don't think there's any real debate about those issues.
You don't.



I kinda want to know where Fred lives if he hasn't seen any debate or disagreements about universal healthcare. Actually, I want to know how he claims that there is no debate on feminism. Because this very forum has had several threads on which feminism has been debated.

Obviously there is corruption and hackery everywhere. But there's no serious, legitimate dispute about these things.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on July 19, 2015, 05:00:34 am
I don't think there's any real debate about those issues.
You don't.



I kinda want to know where Fred lives if he hasn't seen any debate or disagreements about universal healthcare. Actually, I want to know how he claims that there is no debate on feminism. Because this very forum has had several threads on which feminism has been debated.

Obviously there is corruption and hackery everywhere. But there's no serious, legitimate dispute about these things.
And now you are shifting goalposts. The fact that some of those arguments have opponents that are hacks does not mean that the debate does not exist. AND there are proper debates on those as well. For example, there are SWERFs and TWERFs who consider themselves feminists despite excluding some women. Do they represent feminism (is saying that they aren't "proper" feminists a no true scotsman fallacy?) There are feminists who are clearly misandrists even though other say that feminism is/should be for men as well. Even feminists disagree on feminism so clearly there is debate on this matter.

EDIT: Actually, is that even shifting goalposts? How can he claim that the debate does not exist at all by doing an ad hominem attack against those who disagree with him?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lt. Fred on July 19, 2015, 07:18:20 am
I don't think there's any real debate about those issues.
You don't.



I kinda want to know where Fred lives if he hasn't seen any debate or disagreements about universal healthcare. Actually, I want to know how he claims that there is no debate on feminism. Because this very forum has had several threads on which feminism has been debated.

Obviously there is corruption and hackery everywhere. But there's no serious, legitimate dispute about these things.
And now you are shifting goalposts. The fact that some of those arguments have opponents that are hacks does not mean that the debate does not exist. AND there are proper debates on those as well. For example, there are SWERFs and TWERFs who consider themselves feminists despite excluding some women. Do they represent feminism (is saying that they aren't "proper" feminists a no true scotsman fallacy?) There are feminists who are clearly misandrists even though other say that feminism is/should be for men as well. Even feminists disagree on feminism so clearly there is debate on this matter.

EDIT: Actually, is that even shifting goalposts? How can he claim that the debate does not exist at all by doing an ad hominem attack against those who disagree with him?

If you don't think women face specific problems that need to be overcome that men do not face you're a hack. I don't think this is controversial. If you think people's houses should be knocked down to encourage people to drive you're a hack. If you think people should be killed through a lack of health insurance you're a hack. I don't think those views are legitimate. There are many such views.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on July 19, 2015, 07:30:08 am
(http://i.imgur.com/JjUsaMH.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RavynousHunter on July 19, 2015, 10:04:09 am
Didn't know Merle Dixon went on to become a football referee.  Hm.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: mellenORL on July 19, 2015, 12:03:25 pm
Yeah he was one of the Replacements...wait, that was baseball, right?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RavynousHunter on July 19, 2015, 12:04:50 pm
I 'unno.  All sports uniforms look the same to me.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: ironbite on July 19, 2015, 05:22:23 pm
Ok of all the memes to come out, debate ref is the best.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on July 20, 2015, 04:28:24 pm
(http://oi58.tinypic.com/14v7i9h.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: mellenORL on July 20, 2015, 08:55:29 pm
XD fuck yeah!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Sigmaleph on July 20, 2015, 09:11:14 pm
Saving people from fires doesn't solve the structural issues that cause fires and might discourage people from starting true reform of the system that is needed to truly stop fires.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Damen on July 21, 2015, 08:49:06 pm
Didn't know Merle Dixon went on to become a football referee.  Hm.

I'm glad I wasn't the only one to think that.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on July 23, 2015, 12:04:04 am
(http://assets.amuniversal.com/7568860002aa0133f125005056a9545d)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on July 26, 2015, 09:29:31 am
(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on July 31, 2015, 11:26:52 pm
(http://oi57.tinypic.com/1z4xt3a.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on August 01, 2015, 01:28:30 am
(http://oi57.tinypic.com/1z4xt3a.jpg)

He looks hilarious!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on August 01, 2015, 08:56:35 pm
(http://oi62.tinypic.com/5oe3xt.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: guizonde on August 04, 2015, 07:35:59 am
(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on August 06, 2015, 11:29:54 pm
(http://media.cagle.com/77/2015/08/05/167236_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: guizonde on August 07, 2015, 08:13:43 am
(http://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/aApebZL_460s.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on August 07, 2015, 02:24:57 pm
(http://oi60.tinypic.com/2qs7vxx.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: guizonde on August 08, 2015, 11:53:16 am
(http://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/aYwyAbV_700b.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: R. U. Sirius on August 09, 2015, 10:03:25 am
(http://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/aYwyAbV_700b.jpg)

This one reminds me of a particular incident in elementary school. We were doing some sort of coloring project and this one kid who had one of those briefcase-sized sets of crayons openly said that everyone could borrow from him...except for me.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on August 09, 2015, 10:12:14 am
(http://oi62.tinypic.com/30tjggg.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on August 09, 2015, 11:58:06 am
(http://blogs.denverpost.com/opinion-cartoons/files/2014/08/militarization-of-police-cartoon-morin.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on August 09, 2015, 12:36:58 pm
(http://oi61.tinypic.com/w98v29.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on August 09, 2015, 05:06:51 pm
(http://oi61.tinypic.com/w98v29.jpg)
GOD DAMMIT! YOU CAN BE UPSET OVER MORE THAN ONE THING AT A TIME! YOU CAN ALSO HAVE SYMPATHY FOR MORE THAN ONE THING AT THE SAME TIME!

But noo... "Someone is upset over the Rhino's going extinct? WHAT ABOUT THE POOR PEOPLE?! Someone is upset over the treatment of male rape victims? WHAT ABOUT THE WOMEN!!?!?!!"
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: R. U. Sirius on August 10, 2015, 03:51:59 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDmLVr6AUHs

I know, it's not exactly a cartoon, but given Bill Maher's act, I think it counts.

Yes, I also know that he's an anti-vaxxer. Just goes to show that people can be right about some things and wrong about others, so we shouldn't dismiss something just because we don't like the source.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: guizonde on August 11, 2015, 03:52:43 am
(http://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/aVXwGe8_460s_v1.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on August 11, 2015, 12:10:00 pm
(http://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/aVXwGe8_460s_v1.jpg)

 8) ;DFEEL THE BUUUURRRNNN! ;D 8)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cataclysm on August 17, 2015, 03:16:57 pm
(https://scontent-sjc2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtf1/v/t1.0-9/11846509_1046474862037952_6969265845829540935_n.jpg?oh=a46819d09b3cc602e3edf295695da077&oe=56832167)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on August 22, 2015, 01:18:12 pm
(http://oi59.tinypic.com/a0j6m0.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cataclysm on August 25, 2015, 03:44:08 pm
(https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xft1/v/t1.0-9/11921650_931404870249182_7954289655893929359_n.jpg?oh=8b54e2163df54c71ec93b9f7550dd52e&oe=5670A316)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on August 27, 2015, 12:36:39 pm
(http://oi59.tinypic.com/a0j6m0.jpg)

Great point!


(https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xft1/v/t1.0-9/11921650_931404870249182_7954289655893929359_n.jpg?oh=8b54e2163df54c71ec93b9f7550dd52e&oe=5670A316)

The Teabaggers need to see this! Heck, Trump used to be a big fan of The Clintons!


He's a big political whore, like Mitt Romney. He'll waffle between sane & crazy if it means getting ahead and playing the people! Who knows what they really believe.

Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on August 28, 2015, 02:57:28 pm
(http://oi58.tinypic.com/2hnxfsh.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on August 30, 2015, 09:55:57 am
(http://oi58.tinypic.com/2nu7m1x.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: guizonde on September 01, 2015, 04:04:20 am
(http://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/am8Wbov_460s_v1.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on September 01, 2015, 11:29:49 am
(http://oi58.tinypic.com/2hnxfsh.jpg)

LOL! AWESOME!


(http://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/am8Wbov_460s_v1.jpg)

FEEL THE "INDIAN BURN", TRUMPY!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: guizonde on September 05, 2015, 03:32:02 am
(http://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/arR3Y0d_460s_v1.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: I am lizard on September 05, 2015, 03:19:40 pm
It's made sadder by the fact Sudanese kids are still getting slaugtered by the (literal) truckload.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on September 06, 2015, 11:30:34 am
(http://oi61.tinypic.com/1r2l20.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: guizonde on September 06, 2015, 02:21:21 pm
(http://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/aBrLRGO_460s_v1.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on September 06, 2015, 03:12:32 pm
(http://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/aBrLRGO_460s_v1.jpg)

It's because human beings have a need to put a face to a tragedy.

Examples:

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/b4/Sharbat_Gula.jpg)

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3203/2413808291_25bcd2012a_o.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cataclysm on September 06, 2015, 03:17:08 pm
(http://A Single Death is a Tragedy; a Million Deaths is a Statistic)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on September 06, 2015, 03:24:45 pm
(http://A Single Death is a Tragedy; a Million Deaths is a Statistic)

I can't see it.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on September 06, 2015, 03:46:32 pm
A Single Death is a Tragedy; a Million Deaths is a Statistic

Either you copied the title of the picture or were trying to put that phrase into a quote but accidentally put it in as an image link.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cataclysm on September 06, 2015, 04:24:49 pm
D'oh
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on September 06, 2015, 09:25:45 pm
(http://oi62.tinypic.com/2007k9s.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on September 06, 2015, 10:01:47 pm
(https://scontent-lga1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfl1/v/t1.0-9/11998852_920631061307924_104304105679427372_n.jpg?oh=ff087bce8bc15337b97a43f6980f65c3&oe=5668995D)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on September 07, 2015, 10:07:58 am
(http://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/aBrLRGO_460s_v1.jpg)

But, as Paragon said, people need a FACE to the whole thing. It's hard to focus on Thousands/Millions of people and see each as individuals.
The cartoon is sadly sweet though. All those cute little innocent kids in those angel wings in Paradise, welcoming that little boy into heaven. I want to huggle them. :'(



(http://oi62.tinypic.com/2007k9s.jpg)

Heck, not just with these guys.....but with everybody!

"UNITED WE STAND, DIVIDED WE FALL!"



(https://scontent-lga1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfl1/v/t1.0-9/11998852_920631061307924_104304105679427372_n.jpg?oh=ff087bce8bc15337b97a43f6980f65c3&oe=5668995D)

 ;D 8) FEEL THE BUUUUURRRRN! 8) ;D
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on September 07, 2015, 10:51:52 am
(http://oi61.tinypic.com/o5xfes.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: TheL on September 07, 2015, 11:11:09 am
UP, that is golden!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on September 07, 2015, 07:43:57 pm
(http://media.cagle.com/53/2015/08/18/167684_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Vypernight on September 08, 2015, 04:57:15 am
By January, I could see a similar cartoon saying, "Sanders is leading in all polls, but let's talk about future president Clinton."
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Even Then on September 08, 2015, 04:59:34 am
Sanders kinda looks like an anime in that cartoon. Dramatically tossing a match while intense music plays and an invisible wind ruffles his hair.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on September 08, 2015, 11:23:37 pm
Sanders kinda looks like an anime in that cartoon. Dramatically tossing a match while intense music plays and an invisible wind ruffles his hair.

 8) EPIC SANDERS! 8)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on September 09, 2015, 12:46:04 am
Personally I would like to see Kawaii Sanders. Also I now need for someone to put all those youtube videos of him laying  epic smack downs to some intense music.
On that note, I do have another cartoon:

(https://scontent-lga1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xta1/v/t1.0-9/10252095_518381655002477_4888694228611364870_n.jpg?oh=895424b96be22a05c89adeea73cada9e&oe=56A2B5D1)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: guizonde on September 11, 2015, 04:25:31 am
(http://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/aw7mRM1_460s.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on September 11, 2015, 02:27:40 pm
(http://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/aw7mRM1_460s.jpg)

FEEL THE BUUUURN, KIMMY!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on September 11, 2015, 03:34:16 pm
(https://36.media.tumblr.com/99fb9f042cc8f2805c4da81f5bfdc532/tumblr_nte84kzMez1s9mikwo1_500.png)
Because D&D alignments make everything better.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lt. Fred on September 11, 2015, 07:08:06 pm
(https://36.media.tumblr.com/99fb9f042cc8f2805c4da81f5bfdc532/tumblr_nte84kzMez1s9mikwo1_500.png)
Because D&D alignments make everything better.

As if Chris "criminal" Christie is neutral.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on September 11, 2015, 07:21:40 pm
To be fair, the Chris Christie one is the only one I disagree with, but at the same time I can't think of anyone to put in the Chaotic Neutral space.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on September 13, 2015, 01:22:17 am
(http://oi62.tinypic.com/14b5b1i.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on September 13, 2015, 12:58:02 pm
(https://scontent-lga1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/11988500_1066133173406622_7978417750993484565_n.jpg?oh=bae95171ed16c908f826af7c8bc28dbe&oe=56A28784)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: I am lizard on September 13, 2015, 01:03:38 pm
(https://scontent-lga1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/11988500_1066133173406622_7978417750993484565_n.jpg?oh=bae95171ed16c908f826af7c8bc28dbe&oe=56A28784)
Is that Cheney?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: I am lizard on September 13, 2015, 01:05:32 pm
(http://40.media.tumblr.com/4eaa01b5a8ab7f135cc2efe7f1de3dd7/tumblr_nuagkqITyz1r8kiyko1_1280.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on September 13, 2015, 01:09:05 pm
I assume it is old Dick "Go Fuck Yourself" Cheney, since he has crawled out of the woodwork bitching about the Iran Deal.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on September 13, 2015, 03:30:56 pm
(http://www.angryflower.com/repubrage.gif)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on September 13, 2015, 10:18:57 pm
(https://scontent-lga1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/12009683_735749409888181_5177968260312280254_n.jpg?oh=3e23726feac823f6fe59455c92ae231d&oe=56A648D2)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on September 14, 2015, 12:57:31 pm
(https://scontent-lga1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/12009683_735749409888181_5177968260312280254_n.jpg?oh=3e23726feac823f6fe59455c92ae231d&oe=56A648D2)

Which is why I refuse to call them The Republican Party. The REAL Republican Party has gone the way of the Whigs.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on September 14, 2015, 06:05:58 pm
(https://scontent-lga1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xta1/v/t1.0-9/11225320_10102644580251928_8007883249023676574_n.jpg?oh=ad4ab2db16845741aec0e90c9ddded16&oe=56671435)
The best part is Jesus's facepalm.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on September 15, 2015, 09:04:07 am
(https://scontent-lga1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xta1/v/t1.0-9/11225320_10102644580251928_8007883249023676574_n.jpg?oh=ad4ab2db16845741aec0e90c9ddded16&oe=56671435)
The best part is Jesus's facepalm.

I was just going to say that!

That's the best facepalm I've seen in a while!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on September 15, 2015, 02:37:19 pm
(http://static01.nyt.com/images/2012/07/08/opinion/sunday/the-strip-slide-87L2/the-strip-slide-87L2-master1050.png)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on September 16, 2015, 12:04:51 pm
(http://static01.nyt.com/images/2012/07/08/opinion/sunday/the-strip-slide-87L2/the-strip-slide-87L2-master1050.png)

I actually chuckled at the bee hive pic.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: guizonde on September 17, 2015, 02:53:19 pm
(http://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/agN8jB1_460s.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on September 17, 2015, 04:32:17 pm
(http://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/agN8jB1_460s.jpg)

LOL! That was EPIC! Love it!

I think we have a new moniker for ChristoFrums who cry "Persecution!" willy-nilly! WALMARTYRS!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on September 18, 2015, 12:57:10 pm
I think this fits here: http://imgur.com/gallery/LDHVB Link since there are several images.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on September 18, 2015, 02:53:01 pm
The last Sanders one had me lmao, because the image of him beating the shit out of someone with cane popped into my head.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on September 18, 2015, 03:28:17 pm
The last Sanders one had me lmao, because the image of him beating the shit out of someone with cane popped into my head.

Then the kitty in that pic after that joins in with it's claws!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on September 20, 2015, 09:48:11 am
(http://oi57.tinypic.com/2chpav5.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on September 20, 2015, 11:44:28 am
(http://oi57.tinypic.com/2chpav5.jpg)

I do confess that I did notice that Movies & TV shows these days have weird lighting. Everything is either really yellow or really green (This mainly affects action flicks, horror movies, thrillers, crime dramas and even fantasy).

Man! To have good ol' fashioned Technicolor make a return, again....
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on September 20, 2015, 11:51:34 am
But which kind of Technicolor?? Personally a big fan of both 2-Strip and 3-Strip technicolor, myself.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Zygarde on September 20, 2015, 11:59:52 am
I have no clue what you guys are talking about, but then again I was born in 95.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on September 20, 2015, 12:29:47 pm
I'm sure you're seen either The Wizard Of Oz, or even some of those really old school Loony Tunes cartoons for the 40's both are examples of 3-Strip Technicolor. Good examples of 2-Strip Technicolor, I can think of off the top of my head, are Doctor X (1932), Mystery Of The Wax Museum(1933) and the color segment in Phantom Of the Opera(1925). Yeah, I'm not really old, I've just watched way too many movies made way before I was born(1982).
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on September 20, 2015, 09:54:48 pm
(http://oi57.tinypic.com/2e0l5oo.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Even Then on September 20, 2015, 10:01:19 pm
Eh, "PC" as most people use it is just a stand-in for "person too vocal about a societal issue that I don't give a shit about / actively perpetuate" or "member of marginalized social group who's being too vocal about being marginalized"
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: R. U. Sirius on September 21, 2015, 02:34:37 am
I honestly think the vast majority of people who complain about political correctness are deliberately ignoring the fact that there have always been societal taboos on what was and wasn't acceptable to say.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: guizonde on September 21, 2015, 06:23:39 am
(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: SCarpelan on September 21, 2015, 05:15:47 pm
Well, a decent one more than "Best" but still...

(https://scontent-arn2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xlf1/v/t1.0-9/11988664_932136923513635_8572427613245244261_n.jpg?oh=745802b6a5c59e110e3d8d19b63bddae&oe=56A5D003)

"The man and the ghosts behind the man"

The man being the current prime minister of Finland and a former CEO Juha Sipilä. The image is an excellent summary of his economic policies.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: mellenORL on September 21, 2015, 05:31:47 pm
The Iron Maiden and the Great Conflator? Ah, for the "trickle down" (piss on) economics.   
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: SCarpelan on September 21, 2015, 06:06:50 pm
And union busting.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on September 22, 2015, 04:09:26 pm
(http://oi58.tinypic.com/10seljn.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on September 22, 2015, 10:34:42 pm
(http://media.cagle.com/16/2015/09/18/169028_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: SCarpelan on September 23, 2015, 03:42:56 am
(https://scontent-arn2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfa1/v/t1.0-9/11138070_1118121341549862_5702506278407466458_n.jpg?oh=3807658f289f5ef533c16f4bf386f16f&oe=565F811F)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on September 23, 2015, 08:53:58 am
(https://scontent-ams2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/11048715_947438128656933_7384237825216485419_n.jpg?oh=7b10d430acc371d5115f964fb61fc96a&oe=5693545A)

...Well, not all Christians are like that, but for Ms. Davis it certainly is a very fitting reminder.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Id82 on September 23, 2015, 11:43:22 am
Are her fifteen minutes up yet?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on September 23, 2015, 12:21:48 pm
(https://scontent-lga1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xat1/v/t1.0-9/12003127_1183251128357889_646240367761633368_n.jpg?oh=9b4863a1efd4a7575138e389c8baa2c2&oe=56977C70)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: mellenORL on September 23, 2015, 01:20:24 pm
That one wins at least this page of the thread XD.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on September 23, 2015, 04:13:10 pm
That one wins at least this page of the thread XD.

Same here.

A while back, I made this a long while back....
(click to show/hide)
(Involves a photo of a deceased elephant, covered in vultures. Not gory, just kinda morbid)


I also made this a very long while back....
(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f226/SpukiKitty/All%20My%20Political%20Stuff/2e02b34b-b97e-426e-819c-1e45aefca5b7_zpscr2ystze.jpg) (http://s48.photobucket.com/user/SpukiKitty/media/All%20My%20Political%20Stuff/2e02b34b-b97e-426e-819c-1e45aefca5b7_zpscr2ystze.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on September 23, 2015, 04:18:20 pm
(http://oi60.tinypic.com/a2ysyg.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: SCarpelan on September 25, 2015, 01:52:26 am
(http://blogit.image.fi/uuninpankkopoikasakutimonen/wp-content/uploads/sites/32/2015/09/10524681_550428165131333_4947094386372234972_n.jpg)

The quote above the image is about the PM Sipilä calling for a calm discussion without calling anyone a racist.

The people in the image are protesting outside a refugee reception center in Lahti.

"Can we now call (him) racist, Juha Sipilä?"

[Edit] To give more context: I just realized these belong to the group of protesters who threw fist-sized stones at a Red Cross worker and fired fireworks at a bus transporting refugees.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on September 25, 2015, 10:45:55 am
More from the KKK-gate. (Actually I am not sure what it will be called. "something-gate" isn't used for scandals in Finland.)

(https://scontent-ams2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xlp1/v/t1.0-9/12063485_1215741595118808_1474859548796278359_n.jpg?oh=273f07e65c120cc0989f886bf3d01a20&oe=56937F26)

"City council member from the Finns, Martti Mäkelä lost his way and ended up in a photo with the Ku Klux Klan."

This is a reference to another politician from the Finns who "accidentally" posed in a photo with a group of neo-nazis called SVL (Liberation front of Finland.). Apparently he was only supposed to celebrate the most famous political assassination in the history of Finland with one group of ultra-nationalist, the Suomen Sisu (Sisu of Finland. ...Yeah, that wasn't much of a translation) but the other group, which is more violent, has been involved in organized attacks on people they don't like and openly declares to be a national socialist organization "simply happened to be there by coincidence."

And now, once again, a politician from the Finns accidentally KKK.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: mellenORL on September 25, 2015, 10:55:10 am
Seeing and reading about these guys just gives me chills. On a lighter mocking note, dude that Dunce hat is all wrong. Too fussy and medieval looking. Use a wrinkled polyester pillow case if you want that authentic, hickory-smoked Klan look.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on September 25, 2015, 12:23:05 pm
(http://oi60.tinypic.com/a2ysyg.jpg)

Love it! Love it! Love it! Heck, we have cartoons like that in my country, too......and it's a great point!




More from the KKK-gate. (Actually I am not sure what it will be called. "something-gate" isn't used for scandals in Finland.)

(https://scontent-ams2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xlp1/v/t1.0-9/12063485_1215741595118808_1474859548796278359_n.jpg?oh=273f07e65c120cc0989f886bf3d01a20&oe=56937F26)

"City council member from the Finns, Martti Mäkelä lost his way and ended up in a photo with the Ku Klux Klan."

This is a reference to another politician from the Finns who "accidentally" posed in a photo with a group of neo-nazis called SVL (Liberation front of Finland.). Apparently he was only supposed to celebrate the most famous political assassination in the history of Finland with one group of ultra-nationalist, the Suomen Sisu (Sisu of Finland. ...Yeah, that wasn't much of a translation) but the other group, which is more violent, has been involved in organized attacks on people they don't like and openly declares to be a national socialist organization "simply happened to be there by coincidence."

And now, once again, a politician from the Finns accidentally KKK.


There's Klanspeople in FINLAND?!!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on September 25, 2015, 01:19:14 pm
Seeing and reading about these guys just gives me chills. On a lighter mocking note, dude that Dunce hat is all wrong. Too fussy and medieval looking. Use a wrinkled polyester pillow case if you want that authentic, hickory-smoked Klan look.

And ironically, it looks like the Capirote, a hood used by devout Spanish Catholics.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on September 25, 2015, 03:36:13 pm
Seeing and reading about these guys just gives me chills. On a lighter mocking note, dude that Dunce hat is all wrong. Too fussy and medieval looking. Use a wrinkled polyester pillow case if you want that authentic, hickory-smoked Klan look.

And ironically, it looks like the Capirote, a hood used by devout Spanish Catholics.

Yeah. I remember seeing a pic of those guys. There's some big important feast day there and a parade of guys in hooded gettups like those make a solemn procession down the street.

Well; I've now seen it all.....The Ku Klux Klan has a European branch.  :P
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: SCarpelan on September 25, 2015, 05:36:40 pm
I don't think there is an official branch of KKK here. The guy is probably just an individual fanboy/imitator.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on September 25, 2015, 06:22:24 pm
(http://thefifthcolumnnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/ahmed-and-dangerous-cartoon-600x474.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Canadian Mojo on September 25, 2015, 07:15:04 pm
A bunch of supposed Finnish nationalists flat out copying the biggest assholes in America.

That's really rather pathetic when you stop and think about it.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: mellenORL on September 25, 2015, 11:55:38 pm
And they can't even do the cosplay right, yeah?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on September 26, 2015, 12:36:34 am
A bunch of supposed Finnish nationalists flat out copying the biggest assholes in America.

That's really rather pathetic when you stop and think about it.

And they can't even do the cosplay right, yeah?

I don't think there is an official branch of KKK here. The guy is probably just an individual fanboy/imitator.

Yeah, you're right. I saw this on another site. Also, the hood is a big paper cone, which is why it looks so "fussy", "medieval" & "European-y". Nope; The guy just took a huge white sheet of construction paper, made a cone and added eye-holes.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on September 26, 2015, 03:08:01 pm
(http://static01.nyt.com/images/2012/07/08/opinion/sunday/the-strip-slide-1CJR/the-strip-slide-1CJR-master1050.png)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on September 27, 2015, 03:14:46 pm
(http://static01.nyt.com/images/2012/07/08/opinion/sunday/the-strip-slide-1CJR/the-strip-slide-1CJR-master1050.png)

Wow! It's the ultimate wet dream for Douchebro!

That would be scary!

But why does Douche look like a middle-aged frump? He's more of a "teenybopper fratboy kid-jerk".

Whatever. His face is very punchable. There should be a line of Martin Shikreli Punching Bags.

Now, this dork is annoying Canada! So, this creep is sticking his pointy little nose in other countries business!

His company isn't big. It's hardly legit and the name (Turing) is ironic because it's not worthy of that great man's name (even if it's likely that it doesn't refer to him). It's simply a Ponzi scheme. A joke meant to defraud.


(http://thefifthcolumnnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/ahmed-and-dangerous-cartoon-600x474.jpg)

Is it just me or is a cartoon version of Ahmed Mohamed kinda adorkable?

The text is also a very accurate representation of the mindset of bigots.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on September 27, 2015, 05:01:37 pm
(https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/12047134_946432815396121_4090838097738751429_n.jpg?oh=b1697a023054a7a9e476e354111e7ae8&oe=56A0F892)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on September 27, 2015, 08:43:36 pm
(https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/12047134_946432815396121_4090838097738751429_n.jpg?oh=b1697a023054a7a9e476e354111e7ae8&oe=56A0F892)

GRANNY: ".....and into faceless insurance companies, you dingleberry! I'm still voting Bernie!"

Sorry, I had to add a little funny.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on September 29, 2015, 12:25:53 am
(https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/12032211_10154270203673327_1568911503545220449_n.jpg?oh=456925616bfb2741402af529fbb6c478&oe=56A40756)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on September 29, 2015, 02:07:07 pm
(https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/12032211_10154270203673327_1568911503545220449_n.jpg?oh=456925616bfb2741402af529fbb6c478&oe=56A40756)

Don't worry guys, we're doing our best to free you!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: pyro on September 29, 2015, 05:28:14 pm
(https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/12032211_10154270203673327_1568911503545220449_n.jpg?oh=456925616bfb2741402af529fbb6c478&oe=56A40756)

Y'know, except for the judge, none of them need labels.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on September 29, 2015, 05:38:15 pm
(http://oi58.tinypic.com/35i1214.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ironchew on September 29, 2015, 06:10:23 pm
-snip-

It's not a conspiracy. It's about ethics in international journalism.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Sigmaleph on September 29, 2015, 07:38:03 pm
(http://oi58.tinypic.com/35i1214.jpg)

You do realise this is the exact same kind of cartoon we mock in the other thread replacing the evil Jew with, um, whoever the guy in the mask is supposed to be. Moldbug?

It doesn't get any more true when you swap sides. Reactionaries aren't being duped by insincere ideologues, they are being convinced by other reactionaries who are completely honest in their beliefs. Honest and wrong, but still.


The joke is that Moldbug is Jewish
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on September 29, 2015, 08:07:11 pm
Now call me crazy, but am I the only one here that thinks the face on the mask looks like Ron Paul??
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Igor on September 29, 2015, 08:08:23 pm
I thought it looked like that one asshole from Orange is the New Black
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Eiki-mun on September 29, 2015, 08:12:51 pm
I'm relatively certain that's Ron Paul.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on September 29, 2015, 08:22:40 pm
It would make sense, given that Paultards do say that type of batshit insane stuff.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on September 29, 2015, 08:32:05 pm
-snip-

It's not a conspiracy. It's about ethics in international journalism.

Your trolling attempts are really more pathetic than irritating.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: mellenORL on September 29, 2015, 09:10:00 pm
I dunno, I lolled at that one.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: niam2023 on September 29, 2015, 09:13:32 pm
-snip-

It's not a conspiracy. It's about ethics in international journalism.

Your trolling attempts are really more pathetic than irritating.

It is about ethics in trolling attempts.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Svata on September 29, 2015, 10:15:05 pm
-snip-

It's not a conspiracy. It's about ethics in international journalism.

Your trolling attempts are really more pathetic than irritating.

It is about ethics in trolling attempts.


Fucking hell man. That was magnificent.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ironchew on September 30, 2015, 12:20:26 am
Now call me crazy, but am I the only one here that thinks the face on the mask looks like Ron Paul??

That's what I figured too. They got it from this logo:

(http://i.imgur.com/xnsMicw.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on September 30, 2015, 11:49:21 am
Now call me crazy, but am I the only one here that thinks the face on the mask looks like Ron Paul??

That's what I figured too. They got it from this logo:

(http://i.imgur.com/xnsMicw.jpg)

I suspected as such.  ::)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on October 02, 2015, 11:22:00 pm
(http://oi58.tinypic.com/2mgkojm.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: niam2023 on October 02, 2015, 11:29:57 pm
...Alas, Poor Boehner.

Slain by the monster he allowed into his house.

For all his adversarial nature, at the end of the day he tried to be pragmatic and the far right ended him for it.

They ended his career for basing his ideas in reality. That tells everyone just how far gone the Tea Party is.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: ironbite on October 03, 2015, 04:48:11 pm
The immates are running the asylum.

Ironbite-let's see if it keeps them in power.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on October 03, 2015, 06:41:12 pm
(http://media.cagle.com/20/2015/10/02/169582_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: guizonde on October 03, 2015, 06:46:11 pm
ok, i loll'd.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on October 03, 2015, 07:08:55 pm
(https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtp1/v/t1.0-9/12118740_10204968358192279_4302956075229429004_n.jpg?oh=e47d173bc5b3c893227ff7317fa4e533&oe=568EC816)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Veras on October 04, 2015, 07:52:51 am
The immates are running the asylum.

Ironbite-let's see if it keeps them in power.

Well, everything is so gerrymandered in their favor that their 47.6% of the House popular vote in 2012 was good for 53.8% of House seats. 1.5 million more people voted for Democratic House candidates than for Republicans, but the GOP ended with a 234 - 201 majority.

So I'm going to go with they're going to hold the House in 2016 pretty much no matter what they do, and the Democrats have little hope in that chamber until after lines are redrawn after the 2020 census. Of course, the state legislature lines are overwhelmingly gerrymandered in favor of Republicans as well, so it will be difficult to restore balance even then, amd if a Democraric President is elected next year, the Republicans will do well in 2020 (as the opposition paety alwas does in thw midterms) amd theyll be able to redraw the lInes evwn more strongly in theor favor. If there is 1 thing that Republicans are good at, it's rewriting the rules of democracy in their favor, generally in ways that are less democratic (voter id laws, shorter polling hours, fewer polling stations, etc)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on October 04, 2015, 11:37:31 am
The immates are running the asylum.

Ironbite-let's see if it keeps them in power.

Well, everything is so gerrymandered in their favor that their 47.6% of the House popular vote in 2012 was good for 53.8% of House seats. 1.5 million more people voted for Democratic House candidates than for Republicans, but the GOP ended with a 234 - 201 majority.

So I'm going to go with they're going to hold the House in 2016 pretty much no matter what they do, and the Democrats have little hope in that chamber until after lines are redrawn after the 2020 census. Of course, the state legislature lines are overwhelmingly gerrymandered in favor of Republicans as well, so it will be difficult to restore balance even then, amd if a Democraric President is elected next year, the Republicans will do well in 2020 (as the opposition paety alwas does in thw midterms) amd theyll be able to redraw the lInes evwn more strongly in theor favor. If there is 1 thing that Republicans are good at, it's rewriting the rules of democracy in their favor, generally in ways that are less democratic (voter id laws, shorter polling hours, fewer polling stations, etc)

Um, 2020 is a presidential election year. 2018 and 2022 are the midterm years.

But yeah, way too many states are gerrymandered all to hell.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on October 04, 2015, 01:10:31 pm
Nah! 2016 is going to be the Dems' year!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on October 04, 2015, 01:42:08 pm
Nah! 2016 is going to be the Dems' year!

It can be the Dems' year all it wants, that won't help when they win all their House districts with 80% and the Republicans win theirs with 55%.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on October 04, 2015, 09:27:52 pm
(http://oi58.tinypic.com/10ykxo6.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Veras on October 05, 2015, 02:18:02 am
The immates are running the asylum.

Ironbite-let's see if it keeps them in power.

Well, everything is so gerrymandered in their favor that their 47.6% of the House popular vote in 2012 was good for 53.8% of House seats. 1.5 million more people voted for Democratic House candidates than for Republicans, but the GOP ended with a 234 - 201 majority.

So I'm going to go with they're going to hold the House in 2016 pretty much no matter what they do, and the Democrats have little hope in that chamber until after lines are redrawn after the 2020 census. Of course, the state legislature lines are overwhelmingly gerrymandered in favor of Republicans as well, so it will be difficult to restore balance even then, amd if a Democraric President is elected next year, the Republicans will do well in 2020 (as the opposition paety alwas does in thw midterms) amd theyll be able to redraw the lInes evwn more strongly in theor favor. If there is 1 thing that Republicans are good at, it's rewriting the rules of democracy in their favor, generally in ways that are less democratic (voter id laws, shorter polling hours, fewer polling stations, etc)

Um, 2020 is a presidential election year. 2018 and 2022 are the midterm years.

But yeah, way too many states are gerrymandered all to hell.

Yup... not sure what I was thinking there...

I've been considering different scenarios for 2020 lately based on what happens in 2016, and their implications on reapportionment, and I don't feel that 2020 looks good for the Democrats under most of them for a variety of reasons.  I must have twisted that around in my head.  Or, based on my spelling, I might actually have been asleep when I typed that message.  Who knows.

Nah! 2016 is going to be the Dems' year!

The Democrats definitely have an advantage in the Electoral College, namely, the Democratic nominee can win the presidency with Ohio OR Florida, while a Republican cannot win without both (can I just take a moment to lament the fact that those are pretty much the only states that matter?).  Realistically speaking, this means that for the GOP to elect a president, they pretty much have to sweep the swing states, not because the extra electoral votes are necessary, but because one party winning both FL and OH suggests that they probably did well in all of the states that could go either way, and maybe even picked off a state that leans the other direction.

That being said, it's way too early to be that optimistic.  History shows that voters like to change the party that controls the country fairly regularly.  The last time the Democrats won 3 consecutive presidential elections was 1940, 44, and 48 (FDR and Truman); and the last time that a Democrat served a full 8 years and were succeeded by another Democrat due to election rather than death was Andrew Jackson and Martin Van Buren (1828, 32, 36).  More importantly, even if the Democrats do sweep the swing states, they could still fail to regain control of Congress.  The 2016 Senate election will be the echo of 2010, which means that there will be a lot more Republicans facing reelection (24) than Democrats (10).  Interestingly, most of the GOP seats are in deep red states, and most Democratic seats are in deep blue states, so there probably won't be a whole lot of movement there, though the specifics of each candidate and situation can change that.  Nonetheless, the Democrats have more to gain than to lose, which is good news to those of us on the left.

It's the House that is a problem.  It's so badly gerrymandered, that it's almost impossible for Democrats to take it back.  For example, looking at the early, early, early polls from 270towin show that Democrats would have to hold all of their seats, win ever toss up, every seat that leans Republican, and win several that are likely Republican.

So it being a Democratic year could mean that a Democrat is elected President, they win the Senate with 51 or 52 seats, and they pick up a dozen House seats, and are still in the minority.  The elections are still a long way off, but if your standard for having a good year involves them taking over both chambers, you're probably setting yourself up for disappointment.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on October 05, 2015, 02:45:47 am
When I look at things like this (http://www.redecoupage-federal-redistribution.ca/content.asp?document=home) (nonpartisan boundary redistribution commissions), I wonder how the hell the US got to the point where representatives choose their constituents every ten years.

(Note Saskatchewan particularly. It had long been the case that Regina and Saskatoon were each divided into four ridings, partly urban and partly rural. In the past few elections, this split had allowed the Conservatives to sweep all but one seat in the province--the seat in question is held by popular Liberal Ralph Goodale--at the expense of the NDP, who came second in every riding but Goodale's in 2011. The commission recommended that Regina and Saskatoon instead each be split into three largely urban ridings, which gives the NDP a significantly better chance of winning seats in the province. The Conservatives, who had a majority government and thus could have shot down the commission's recommendations and made their own map, tried to stir up public support against boundaries which weren't traditional, but ultimately the boundaries that were recommended were put into effect. Gerrymandering just doesn't happen here.)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: mellenORL on October 05, 2015, 10:11:08 am
In Florida, US Congressional districts are drawn up by the locals, the State Legislature, which is ALEC-infested, as are most state assemblies. A glaring example of malicious gerrymandering is how US Rep. Daniel Webster, who represents the district I live in, won in 2012 against a very well liked former Orange County Sheriff who was running against him on the Democratic ticket, Val Demings. Ms. Demings is African American, and ranges from centrist to liberal in policy matters. Rep. Webster is old guard, old money, old bigot. Following a required population increase adjustment to the districts, the Florida Legislature managed just in time to re-gerrymander things so as to slice out Ms. Demings' main support areas and destroy her chances of taking Webster's seat in Congress.  They did, however, leave a good chance now for Ms. Demings to run in the 10th district and win, since this Congressional campaign election coincides with the Presidential election. I hope she wins. She ran for Mayor of Orlando right after losing to Webster in 2012, but did not unseat our very popular Democratic Mayor Dyer. Instead, he hired her on as the new Chief of the Orlando PD. Not hard feelings.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on October 05, 2015, 10:20:25 am
Okay, I get it. I know about the gerrymandering, shady voter ID laws and voter apathy.

Understandable. Optimism is good but, like everything, too much of it can make you stupid.

Which is why I'm more for hope, a CAUTIOUS optimism and mixing idealism with realism.

That said being "Dr. Doomy Dooms of Doom" only invites defeatism, poor morale and a lack of fighting spirit.

However, I do understand that the Democratic gains won't be through the roof.

That said, the majority of wingnutty citizens are old while the majority of progressive citizens are young. Since the old are old, they have a bigger tendency to receive a visit from the lovely & ghastly Santisma Muerte...if you get my drift.

I do think things will get better, eventually. The majority of Americans are already sick of the GOP, Tea Party and general far-right antics.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on October 05, 2015, 02:33:59 pm
Not really a cartoon, but it's a meme, so I guess it counts
(https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/t1.0-9/12096351_992533184118995_8224138093110521022_n.jpg?oh=04dcc83e5645163022c9afbcb541a70a&oe=56959BBF)

And a cartoon:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CQjbEipU8AAO7G4.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: mellenORL on October 05, 2015, 03:52:12 pm
Transparency made me XD.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: guizonde on October 06, 2015, 01:19:36 pm
(http://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/a1YEOVw_460s_v1.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on October 06, 2015, 03:54:46 pm
(https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpt1/v/t1.0-9/12066064_1201116743248304_6150084164361073944_n.jpg?oh=913f6d40a46a1c751b6e8f6f1f19a62a&oe=56A0E0AF)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on October 07, 2015, 08:37:15 am
(http://oi61.tinypic.com/xbos9.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: pyro on October 07, 2015, 11:53:26 am
(http://oi61.tinypic.com/xbos9.jpg)

Twitter?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on October 07, 2015, 05:03:59 pm
(https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpt1/v/t1.0-9/12118951_1017387751617258_4586549338010729957_n.jpg?oh=615ceb03968e5b8fc9a722297140a96b&oe=56990053)

(https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpt1/v/t1.0-9/12112158_10156046876245648_5907280212796685891_n.png?oh=cb6e4535e4d106d8cedf89a63083eab5&oe=56912DBA)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on October 09, 2015, 12:02:59 am
(https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtp1/v/t1.0-9/12108949_995410990523821_235936419046256491_n.jpg?oh=3b328020f6d1b77608229960df774798&oe=568D5AF2)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on October 09, 2015, 12:22:34 am
Who is the bloke next to Bill?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on October 09, 2015, 12:36:34 am
I believe it may be James Carville, who was Clinton's lead political strategist during the '92 campaign.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Eiki-mun on October 09, 2015, 12:37:22 am
Who is the bloke next to Bill?

That would be James Carville, Bill's campaign manager during the 1992 campaign and the guy who thought up the idea of running on the platform of "It's the economy, stupid!".
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on October 09, 2015, 01:10:11 am
(http://media-cdn.timesfreepress.com/img/photos/2015/10/08/151009housegop2550766789_t755_h7b66ec6901d9e186eefb07cd921901f0aa234534.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on October 10, 2015, 03:40:48 am
This may have been here already.
(https://scontent-ams2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xta1/v/t1.0-9/12072833_627998760673174_1633941484909075373_n.png?oh=fbb64d5f41109ac2946bb1b0638002c5&oe=569382E2)

Or at least something similar. The theme keeps repeating itself but then again, so does the public reaction to shootings in USA.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on October 10, 2015, 11:31:56 am
(http://www.isthmus.com/downloads/34738/download/Cover-Campaign-Swag-crJoeRocco-09102015.jpg?cb=5fea15f8b167aafb66d00085a0f71fe1)

(https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpt1/v/t1.0-9/12079628_10154295171828327_6582784830900129015_n.jpg?oh=79197454ae706358378eb77d3af61bdc&oe=56850C6C)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ironchew on October 10, 2015, 12:04:59 pm
(https://firstlook.org/wp-uploads/sites/1/2015/10/Matt_Bors-1-1024x746.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on October 10, 2015, 02:19:44 pm
(https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpl1/v/t1.0-9/12079174_1018662121489821_5126444467737937741_n.jpg?oh=a530e6c44a3185a4e4596aea456ec597&oe=56D0B5E3)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: guizonde on October 10, 2015, 08:09:35 pm
tricorn, teabags, and frothing at the mouth at the idea of fragging their own? that's a great caricature!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on October 11, 2015, 02:13:23 am
tricorn, teabags, and frothing at the mouth at the idea of fragging their own? that's a great caricature!

Agreed 100%! The GOP are 5150! :P

(http://www.isthmus.com/downloads/34738/download/Cover-Campaign-Swag-crJoeRocco-09102015.jpg?cb=5fea15f8b167aafb66d00085a0f71fe1)

The bit with Trump made me LOL with "Squeeze him and watch blood come out of his wherever". I also think Jeb's "Anchor Baby" is adorkable and the guacamole dish/pestle thingy was a nice touch. HOLA!  ;D

It seems to be poking fun at Hillary & Bernie, too. It's an equal-opportunity poker (but the GOPers get more pokey...and rightfully so).
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on October 11, 2015, 10:33:42 am
(http://oi60.tinypic.com/16ld3io.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Even Then on October 11, 2015, 10:53:45 am
Well, people can care about misrepresentation in a medium without patronizing said medium.  That's not invalid or anything.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Sigmaleph on October 11, 2015, 11:07:14 am
Well, yeah. But if all or most of the people complaining about something in your work are not in fact your audience, and will not become your audience upon you fixing it, should you care about them?

(on the other hand, I don't think this is an accurate representation of the state of comic books, and lots of the people who complain about sexism in comics are comic readers, so...)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on October 11, 2015, 12:29:10 pm
The funny thing I've encountered is the one's who complain the loudest about changes are ones who haven't read comics in years, and they play the whole "It's ruining my childhood" bs, or they say some bs about how non original the new diverse characters are but ignore not only the amount "Mantle passing" that has gone on for years, and  cast of characters that are found in the non mainstream comic companies out there(this is where I recommend Image's Rat Queens).
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on October 11, 2015, 03:20:14 pm
(https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/10553362_740049266034478_1647306517110183610_n.jpg?oh=ba0580d517719d424cc365b5c77416ef&oe=5687C758)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: I am lizard on October 12, 2015, 01:35:36 am
(http://oi60.tinypic.com/16ld3io.jpg)
I've decided to take Art's advice here and say: if you can't apply your accusations of logical fallacies consistently then don't apply them at all.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: pyro on October 12, 2015, 10:39:05 am
You know what? Monte Wolverton supports public healthcare.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on October 14, 2015, 09:55:35 am
(http://media.cagle.com/118/2015/10/05/169668_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on October 14, 2015, 02:33:23 pm
(http://images.dailykos.com/images/170107/large/bo151013.png?1444761163)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on October 14, 2015, 03:17:47 pm
(http://images.dailykos.com/images/170107/large/bo151013.png?1444761163)

Okay, that made me laugh.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on October 14, 2015, 08:54:30 pm
http://www.collegehumor.com/post/7034382/the-democratic-debate-summarized-in-6-comics (http://www.collegehumor.com/post/7034382/the-democratic-debate-summarized-in-6-comics)
The first one is my favorite
"Hey Coops, SHUT THE FUCK UP"
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: mellenORL on October 14, 2015, 09:30:55 pm
I liked the last one best. But then, the bank-caused crash cost me 20 years worth of my very modest retirement investments. Makes ya wanna kill the bitches.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on October 14, 2015, 10:04:36 pm
That's my second fav, I'll sign to do that stuff to Wall Street in a heartbeat.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on October 15, 2015, 02:28:38 pm
(https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/12112149_10153535361431418_580000941329502937_n.png?oh=aedc7aa9f855b8f38709433f2af89461&oe=56CBE55A)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on October 16, 2015, 10:06:22 pm
(http://chuckleaduck.com/comics/2015-10-16CAD913-160Separation.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: guizonde on October 17, 2015, 02:51:53 pm
(http://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/aZNvoMz_700b_v1.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on October 17, 2015, 04:38:45 pm
(http://oi62.tinypic.com/nv722v.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on October 17, 2015, 06:13:24 pm
(https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/12105965_1207293759297269_7228763581650822261_n.jpg?oh=1af2f988e47d693d2f01e681ee99e322&oe=5689197F)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on October 17, 2015, 07:08:26 pm
(http://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/aZNvoMz_700b_v1.jpg)

As someone who once had a tapeworm, f*** you.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on October 17, 2015, 09:41:13 pm
(https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/12105965_1207293759297269_7228763581650822261_n.jpg?oh=1af2f988e47d693d2f01e681ee99e322&oe=5689197F)

That is a great zinger! A fantastic argument!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lady Evil on October 20, 2015, 04:01:02 pm
(http://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/aZNvoMz_700b_v1.jpg)

As someone who once had a tapeworm, f*** you.

I think whoever did this was being tongue in cheek (if you'll forgive the turn of phrase).
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on October 20, 2015, 04:10:07 pm
(http://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/aZNvoMz_700b_v1.jpg)

As someone who once had a tapeworm, f*** you.

I think whoever did this was being tongue in cheek (if you'll forgive the turn of phrase).

Probably. My comment was directed at the people I know would, in fact, take this seriously.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on October 20, 2015, 04:14:23 pm
(http://media.cagle.com/89/2015/10/19/170280_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Barbarella on October 21, 2015, 12:59:46 pm
(http://media.cagle.com/89/2015/10/19/170280_600.jpg)

A VERY ACCURATE CARTOON.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on October 22, 2015, 12:22:40 pm
(http://chuckleaduck.com/comics/2015-10-19CAD914-485ThatsBeautiful.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on October 22, 2015, 02:55:19 pm
Because it's a bit big
(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lt. Fred on October 22, 2015, 06:12:25 pm
(https://firstlook.org/wp-uploads/sites/1/2015/10/Matt_Bors-1-1024x746.jpg)

Oooh, that stings.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on October 22, 2015, 08:49:30 pm
(http://chuckleaduck.com/comics/2015-10-16CAD913-160Separation.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: nickiknack on October 24, 2015, 01:12:04 pm
(https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpt1/v/t1.0-9/11253948_909574685783919_4746147510444489705_n.jpg?oh=0d512be1147e2ccf46f943a1e5696fea&oe=56C0CE2D)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: guizonde on October 25, 2015, 09:20:32 am
(http://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/aYwn63V_700b.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: SCarpelan on October 25, 2015, 10:52:17 am
You could as well put an EU flag there. Germany is far from being the only EU country exporting weapons to Middle East. A look at the sales to Saudi Arabia for example: http://www.globalresearch.ca/massive-eu-weapons-sales-to-saudi-arabia-contribute-to-fuelling-international-aggression-and-terrorism-in-the-middle-east/29881
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on October 30, 2015, 12:47:29 am
(http://oi58.tinypic.com/23kc80l.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: pyro on November 01, 2015, 09:44:06 am
Meh, I've said it before, and I'll say it again: your image should add something to the dialog, and I'm pretty sure this guy didn't come up with it himself.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on November 01, 2015, 09:54:36 pm
(http://oi68.tinypic.com/14waqv5.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on November 01, 2015, 10:13:44 pm
That's not a bit melodramatic about American Pit Bull Terriers?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Eiki-mun on November 01, 2015, 10:16:27 pm
I can't get over the fact that the artist felt the need to render the dog's cock and balls.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Sigmaleph on November 01, 2015, 10:21:48 pm
It took me a while to figure out the dog wasn't a metaphorical representation of anyone in particular but rather just a dog.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ironchew on November 02, 2015, 12:28:05 pm
Furry Jesus arranged for himself to die for my yiffs.

Sure is best political cartoons in here.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: mellenORL on November 02, 2015, 04:11:51 pm
I thought it was a pit bull, to protest BSL?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on November 02, 2015, 05:24:54 pm
I thought it was a pit bull, to protest BSL?

It is.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lady Evil on November 03, 2015, 04:18:47 pm
I can't get over the fact that the artist felt the need to render the dog's cock and balls.

Ditto. We can get the message across without the genitalia.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: guizonde on November 03, 2015, 07:25:11 pm
I can't get over the fact that the artist felt the need to render the dog's cock and balls.

Ditto. We can get the message across without the genitalia.

whatever the circumstance, men will always draw bait-and-tackle. whether appropriate or not.

[rule of life on earth n°3868]
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on November 04, 2015, 03:11:55 pm
(http://oi68.tinypic.com/9vfsqw.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on November 04, 2015, 05:21:33 pm
That's a hilarious cartoon. Very political. Not at all a strawman. Also that girls tits and underwear are totally necessary to get the point across.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on November 04, 2015, 06:04:29 pm
That's a hilarious cartoon. Very political. Not at all a strawman. Also that girls tits and underwear are totally necessary to get the point across.

There are idiots who defend FGM on the grounds that "it's their culture."  When you consider that, this doesn't seem too much like a stretch.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on November 04, 2015, 06:12:48 pm
That's a hilarious cartoon. Very political. Not at all a strawman. Also that girls tits and underwear are totally necessary to get the point across.

There are idiots who defend FGM on the grounds that "it's their culture."  When you consider that, this doesn't seem too much like a stretch.

That's not a non-sequitur either. When you consider that  jews won't eat shellfish but muslims will and that they both won't eat pork, this doesn't seem like too much of a stretch.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ironchew on November 04, 2015, 06:30:21 pm
UP's losing it.

We've reduced him to incoherent MRA grumbling.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Svata on November 04, 2015, 06:32:05 pm
That's a hilarious cartoon. Very political. Not at all a strawman. Also that girls tits and underwear are totally necessary to get the point across.

There are idiots who defend FGM on the grounds that "it's their culture."  When you consider that, this doesn't seem too much like a stretch.


And the slaad hamburger explosion purple.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: guizonde on November 04, 2015, 06:36:07 pm
dave, that's jago dibuja's "living with hipster girl and gamer girl". it has to be read with a grain of salt, since it's satire. right down to the physique of hipster girl, it's a criticism. doesn't belong here, however. more in the funny pictures thread.

what's fgm? female genital mutilation? flying geriatric monster? freud gaining mass?

also, what's the link between the two?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on November 04, 2015, 06:46:30 pm
Thanks guizonde, I don't know if I would have ever figured that out without your help. But frankly it's not particularly satirical. Unless of course it is mocking the gaming obsession that all women have to be portrayed as voluptuous sex dolls whereas men are allowed to appear more average. Or it could just like gratuitous boobies. In all fairness though, who doesn't?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: The_Queen on November 04, 2015, 06:52:55 pm
That's a hilarious cartoon. Very political. Not at all a strawman. Also that girls tits and underwear are totally necessary to get the point across.

There are idiots who defend FGM on the grounds that "it's their culture."  When you consider that, this doesn't seem too much like a stretch.

That's not a non-sequitur either. When you consider that  jews won't eat shellfish but muslims will and that they both won't eat pork, this doesn't seem like too much of a stretch.

A particularly compelling argument in light of the new study that pork causes cancer. Now I'm not saying that proves Islam is the right religion, but they were definitely on to something well before science figured that shit out.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RavynousHunter on November 04, 2015, 07:45:09 pm
Was it pork in general or the heavily-processed crap we eat, nowadays?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on November 04, 2015, 07:57:38 pm
dave, that's jago dibuja's "living with hipster girl and gamer girl". it has to be read with a grain of salt, since it's satire. right down to the physique of hipster girl, it's a criticism. doesn't belong here, however. more in the funny pictures thread.

what's fgm? female genital mutilation? flying geriatric monster? freud gaining mass?

also, what's the link between the two?

The first one.  And it's a more extreme example of the same basic principle: people who call themselves "feminists" but are willing to overlook grossly misogynistic acts by "non-whites" (I put that term in quotes because their definition of "white" is rarely consistent), or at least feel conflicted about calling them out in those cases.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: The_Queen on November 04, 2015, 08:15:59 pm
Was it pork in general or the heavily-processed crap we eat, nowadays?

Processed meats have been linked to cancer, and other red meats are more than likely linked as well, but either the link is inconclusive or more attenuated, according to the World Health Organization.

Muslims are quite crafty, making non-halal foods carcinogenic. Clearly Allah is the one true Sky Daddy.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on November 04, 2015, 08:37:53 pm
dave, that's jago dibuja's "living with hipster girl and gamer girl". it has to be read with a grain of salt, since it's satire. right down to the physique of hipster girl, it's a criticism. doesn't belong here, however. more in the funny pictures thread.

what's fgm? female genital mutilation? flying geriatric monster? freud gaining mass?

also, what's the link between the two?

The first one.  And it's a more extreme example of the same basic principle: people who call themselves "feminists" but are willing to overlook grossly misogynistic acts by "non-whites" (I put that term in quotes because their definition of "white" is rarely consistent), or at least feel conflicted about calling them out in those cases.

Who are these feminists.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on November 04, 2015, 09:10:30 pm
dave, that's jago dibuja's "living with hipster girl and gamer girl". it has to be read with a grain of salt, since it's satire. right down to the physique of hipster girl, it's a criticism. doesn't belong here, however. more in the funny pictures thread.

what's fgm? female genital mutilation? flying geriatric monster? freud gaining mass?

also, what's the link between the two?

The first one.  And it's a more extreme example of the same basic principle: people who call themselves "feminists" but are willing to overlook grossly misogynistic acts by "non-whites" (I put that term in quotes because their definition of "white" is rarely consistent), or at least feel conflicted about calling them out in those cases.

Who are these feminists.

I found quite a few without even trying:

https://archive.is/IffrZ (https://archive.is/IffrZ)

That's from the biggest feminist website in Australia, by the way.

Or take a look at this, from a review of Eli Roth's The Green Inferno:

Quote
The way this film handles female circumcision may be the most bothersome aspect of all. Female Genital Mutilation, or F.G.M. for short, is the ritualistic removal of the female’s genitals, varying slightly from one ethnic group to the next, but all involve the cutting of a young girl’s privates to indicate her transition into womanhood. Mostly practiced in African countries, but existing in different forms all throughout the world, the age of the girls involved ranges anywhere from days after birth to well into their teenage years. Whether or not this practice is morally sound is and has been up for debate for several years, with many nations coming out against it, and many active countries defending their right to perform certain rituals as dictated by their culture.

However, without any prior knowledge on the subject, one watching The Green Inferno would assume that there is only one side to the argument, as it only supports the perception that this activity is immoral. Since the film attacks the topic from a sociological perspective, it should offer up both sides of the debate. For instance, one counterpoint that many in favor of F.G.M. bring up is the comparison to male circumcision; an event that is considered normal by society’s standards in many first world countries. There’s also the argument that many of the countries that use unsafe blades to carry out the act simply don’t have access to proper medical centers that would help safely conduct these events. However, the discussion on female circumcision executed by The Green Inferno fails to provide any real depth, and reveals a lack of research, making the story feel as detached and shallow as its characters.

http://bloody-disgusting.com/reviews/3359175/review-the-green-inferno/ (http://bloody-disgusting.com/reviews/3359175/review-the-green-inferno/)

Hell, even freaking Jezebel got in on the act:

http://jezebel.com/328601/african-doctor-is-female-circumcision-so-awful (http://jezebel.com/328601/african-doctor-is-female-circumcision-so-awful)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on November 04, 2015, 09:16:25 pm
None of your examples demonstrate what you say they do.

The first for example is a woman speaking about her own female circumcision.

Also how is Daily Life Australia's largest feminist website?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lt. Fred on November 04, 2015, 09:46:15 pm
It isn't.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on November 04, 2015, 09:54:30 pm
It isn't.

Um, yes it is.  Or at least it has strong feminist leanings.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ghoti on November 04, 2015, 10:25:46 pm
It isn't.

Um, yes it is.  Or at least it has strong feminist leanings.
"Strong feminist leanings" and "Australia's largest feminist website" are two different things, UP. Leave the goalposts alone.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on November 04, 2015, 10:33:01 pm
It isn't.

Um, yes it is.  Or at least it has strong feminist leanings.
"Strong feminist leanings" and "Australia's largest feminist website" are two different things, UP. Leave the goalposts alone.

Well, that's how it was described to me.  Maybe I was wrong.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ghoti on November 04, 2015, 10:44:54 pm
It isn't.

Um, yes it is.  Or at least it has strong feminist leanings.
"Strong feminist leanings" and "Australia's largest feminist website" are two different things, UP. Leave the goalposts alone.

Well, that's how it was described to me.  Maybe I was wrong.
By whom? The Daily Life? Another website? Someone you know? Someone that popped into your life only to say "The Daily Life is Australia's largest feminist website!" before disappearing forever?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on November 04, 2015, 10:56:17 pm
It isn't.

Um, yes it is.  Or at least it has strong feminist leanings.
"Strong feminist leanings" and "Australia's largest feminist website" are two different things, UP. Leave the goalposts alone.

Well, that's how it was described to me.  Maybe I was wrong.
By whom? The Daily Life? Another website? Someone you know? Someone that popped into your life only to say "The Daily Life is Australia's largest feminist website!" before disappearing forever?

A friend of mine.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ghoti on November 04, 2015, 11:27:02 pm
It isn't.

Um, yes it is.  Or at least it has strong feminist leanings.
"Strong feminist leanings" and "Australia's largest feminist website" are two different things, UP. Leave the goalposts alone.

Well, that's how it was described to me.  Maybe I was wrong.
By whom? The Daily Life? Another website? Someone you know? Someone that popped into your life only to say "The Daily Life is Australia's largest feminist website!" before disappearing forever?

A friend of mine.
Care to elaborate?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: niam2023 on November 05, 2015, 01:14:16 am
'a friend of his' = Milo Yiannopolous.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: mellenORL on November 05, 2015, 09:06:19 am
Look, gaize! Boobies!

(http://i.imgur.com/aIwHMlq.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Canadian Mojo on November 05, 2015, 09:52:56 am
Look, gaize! Boobies!

(http://i.imgur.com/aIwHMlq.jpg)

I am Groot?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on November 05, 2015, 10:05:43 am
Look, gaize! Boobies!

(http://i.imgur.com/aIwHMlq.jpg)

I am Groot?

Nah, it's just a straw-man. They have a tendency to show up during debates. I think they are attracted to poorly constructed arguments or something. Ain't nature amazing?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Canadian Mojo on November 05, 2015, 10:14:50 am
With the boobies wouldn't this technically be a straw trans-man?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on November 05, 2015, 11:46:25 am
With the boobies wouldn't this technically be a straw trans-man?

Or maybe a straw Robert Paulson.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on November 05, 2015, 01:36:10 pm
With the boobies wouldn't this technically be a straw trans-man?

Obviously Straw-man is the name of the species and like the "man" in human it does not mean that there aren't any females in the species. Though there are some Straw-Justice-Warriors who demand that the females are to be referred as Straw-myn.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: niam2023 on November 05, 2015, 09:48:09 pm
Or any number of straw pronouns.

There are some straw SJWs who color their hair ridiculous colors, and run around making the other straw men stare at them.

Then there's those wacky windmill people...
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on November 05, 2015, 11:57:49 pm
Haven't you heard the rumors? They might be giants...
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: pyro on November 06, 2015, 12:27:33 pm
(http://oi68.tinypic.com/9vfsqw.jpg)

Am I the only one who thought the two regulars (the one in the green shirt and the one in the cut-off) were both female? I blame the long hair and the logic of having a "hot_girl+dumpy_girl" pair.


Edit: "dumpy" seems like a better description than "ugly."
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: guizonde on November 06, 2015, 12:39:34 pm
i read that comic on and off, the green shirt is your stereotypical pasty-faced, malnourished geek. see the bags under his eyes? that's from geeking all night. give it a read, it's a fun comic.

also, totally adopting the term "dumpy" as a byword for "unkempt".
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on November 06, 2015, 12:45:00 pm
But "greenshirt's" right arm is really strong:

(http://www.jagodibuja.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/118english-1024x241.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ironchew on November 06, 2015, 01:05:42 pm
Quote
How is that you have so much strength in that arm?

How can he stand like that while shifting his center of mass so far forward?

Here I am, questioning webcomic physics. Somebody help.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: guizonde on November 06, 2015, 01:27:28 pm
Quote
How is that you have so much strength in that arm?

How can he stand like that while shifting his center of mass so far forward?

Here I am, questioning webcomic physics. Somebody help.

hope this helps. (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RuleOfFunny)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Random Gal on November 06, 2015, 10:15:05 pm
But "greenshirt's" right arm is really strong:

*snip*

Took me a while to get it, but I lol'd.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: pyro on November 08, 2015, 12:18:30 am
Okay, I snickered when I finally got it.

But we've ventured off-topic, seeing how unpolitical this is.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on November 08, 2015, 08:01:11 pm
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/picture/2015/oct/21/was-joe-hockey-a-well-meaning-bumbler-or-a-sadistic-pompous-braggart (http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/picture/2015/oct/21/was-joe-hockey-a-well-meaning-bumbler-or-a-sadistic-pompous-braggart)


Here's an actual political cartoon. Might be hard for those who aren't Australian to enjoy but hilarious if you are.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on November 11, 2015, 10:09:53 am
(http://oi65.tinypic.com/24fmb2w.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: guizonde on November 14, 2015, 08:47:43 am
(https://scontent-cdg2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xla1/v/t1.0-9/11988415_722962547834521_6951251587280728393_n.jpg?oh=33e883fe4ca748d76c62a375a42bc31f&oe=56EE3D47)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on November 14, 2015, 03:34:42 pm
(http://media.cagle.com/89/2015/11/13/171430_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: mellenORL on November 14, 2015, 05:09:39 pm
Especially apropos...since the statue was a gift from France.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on November 15, 2015, 10:05:39 pm
(http://media.cagle.com/39/2015/11/15/171516_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: guizonde on November 16, 2015, 10:43:56 am
(https://scontent-cdg2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/12208540_10208177977472019_3962648544603895289_n.jpg?oh=5e552e5b8f547c87070de33a4deb051a&oe=56F9EA52)

translation: france bombs the islamic state. "we offer you a metal concert."
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: mellenORL on November 16, 2015, 10:49:16 am
Is this from a surviving Charlie Hebdo cartoonist?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: guizonde on November 16, 2015, 10:53:07 am
nope, but the style is similar. he looks youngish, so he may have been influenced by them. apparently, he posted this in the courrier picard today.

source: https://www.facebook.com/alex.depresse (https://www.facebook.com/alex.depresse)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: TheContrarian on November 16, 2015, 11:26:48 am
(http://oi65.tinypic.com/24fmb2w.jpg)

Well, when you can make a game out of "SJW or stormfag (https://www.reddit.com/r/StormfrontorSJW)" I'd say that social justice being a codeword for Nazism isn't too far off the mark.

"The shitlords outside looked from transwoman to pigkin and ponykin to transnigger; but already it was impossible to say which was which"
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: guizonde on November 16, 2015, 12:03:02 pm
it seems the contrarian has failed to grasp a basic understanding of "horseshoe theory".

oh well, long time no see. how ya been?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: ironbite on November 16, 2015, 12:11:43 pm
Oh good I guess he's finally gotten over Thatcher's death.  Welcome back troll boy!

Ironbite-so please tell us what you have for us this time.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on November 16, 2015, 04:04:34 pm
(http://images.dailykos.com/images/178063/story_image/TMW2015-11-18color.png?1447679863)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: guizonde on November 17, 2015, 09:16:11 am
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xta1/v/t1.0-9/12247107_1643781282537881_462973442424282499_n.jpg?oh=1305c1830ea95abc5d06ad057d99bd4b&oe=56B4C02F&__gda__=1454995366_d61f91ead70079de5fa164f1afe74817)

because of course charlie hebdo was gonna draw about it. here it is.

"they've got weapons. fuck 'em, we got champagne!"

here's another one for the americans:

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: SCarpelan on November 18, 2015, 05:02:20 am
I'm a bit hesitant to put this cartoon here but there is no better thread for it since while it's not very good it's not horrible either. The reason I'm posting it is to comment on the reaction it received.

The Helsinki area parishes publish an online magazine called Valomerkki and it had this cartoon:

(http://www.valomerkki.fi/puheenvuorot/ville-ranta-iskun-jalkeen/kk18.11.15B.jpg/@@images/4fe96197-54bf-4e90-bf49-ed72d849b1fa.jpeg)

"Among the first people on the scene is the immigration critic."

After the cartoon was published the cartoonist started getting death threats. So, yeah. The anti-immigration assholes are trying to silence a cartoonist by harassing and threatening him. The magazine had to remove the cartoon from its social media accounts because it was too difficult to moderate the discussion. The editor refused to remove the cartoon from the site itself, though, explaining that that he himself has a critical opinion about the cartoon but he is not going to limit anyone's freedom of expression.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: mellenORL on November 18, 2015, 11:47:53 am
Okay, the "immigration critic" is lapping up the blood in frenzied "I told you so!" glee, right? That's dark, man. The worst of them are callous and blood thirsty, yup.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on November 18, 2015, 12:03:42 pm
Even before all the bodies had been recovered these immigration critics* really were writing in their blogs, twitters, FB and articles (if they manage to get them published) and proudly saying "I TOLD YOU SO!? DIDN'T I WARN YOU THIS WILL HAPPEN IF YOU LET THE TOWELHEADS INFEST EUROPE!!?!?!?!!?"

So this comic is quite truthful. And so far the only defense I've seen from "critics" for their actions is "...But we have been saying that this would happen? Why on Earth would gloating be wrong?" and then they bring up a comic showing people dancing on the graves of Breivik's victims and singing about how all Christians and white men are evil. (Though as far as I know that did not happen.)


* I wish to explain this term. Few years ago when a certain doctor and current politician started complaining about immigrants he wanted to make sure that people don't shut him down just by calling him a racist. Therefore he invented the term "immigration critic" to make it look like he was merely critical of the way immigration is handled. Unlike the most people who complained about immigrants he had a way with words and knew how to exploit graphs and statistics. He did gain a large following and some of the criticism that he and the others have made has a point AND some of the immigration critics weren't even racists. ...But mainly it's just a word used by racists who don't want to be called racists.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: mellenORL on November 18, 2015, 12:08:18 pm
Racist Immigration Critic. Genocide Ethnic Cleansing.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on November 18, 2015, 04:14:53 pm
(https://scontent-arn2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xft1/v/t1.0-9/12250030_10153716072996800_7980762994990591452_n.jpg?oh=5e7d99920052985517e6528155dc4f11&oe=56F168D5)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on November 18, 2015, 04:35:16 pm
(https://scontent-arn2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xft1/v/t1.0-9/12250030_10153716072996800_7980762994990591452_n.jpg?oh=5e7d99920052985517e6528155dc4f11&oe=56F168D5)

Context?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on November 18, 2015, 04:44:20 pm
(https://scontent-arn2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xft1/v/t1.0-9/12250030_10153716072996800_7980762994990591452_n.jpg?oh=5e7d99920052985517e6528155dc4f11&oe=56F168D5)

Context?
Dammit, part of it was missing.

Mike Huckabee on the threat of Syrian refugees: "We need to wake up and smell the falafel." http://on.cc.com/1QuHk7l
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: ironbite on November 18, 2015, 04:52:43 pm
(https://scontent-arn2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xft1/v/t1.0-9/12250030_10153716072996800_7980762994990591452_n.jpg?oh=5e7d99920052985517e6528155dc4f11&oe=56F168D5)

Context?

You need context for Bill'O the Clown getting skewered on the Daily Show?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on November 18, 2015, 05:00:27 pm
(https://scontent-arn2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xft1/v/t1.0-9/12250030_10153716072996800_7980762994990591452_n.jpg?oh=5e7d99920052985517e6528155dc4f11&oe=56F168D5)

Context?
Dammit, part of it was missing.

Mike Huckabee on the threat of Syrian refugees: "We need to wake up and smell the falafel." http://on.cc.com/1QuHk7l

Thanks!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: SCarpelan on November 19, 2015, 09:18:21 am
(http://kuvat.kaleva.fi/cartoons/d7155e9af17048169d63fed179a84dd0.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Meshakhad on November 19, 2015, 08:14:36 pm
(https://scontent-arn2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xft1/v/t1.0-9/12250030_10153716072996800_7980762994990591452_n.jpg?oh=5e7d99920052985517e6528155dc4f11&oe=56F168D5)

Context?

You need context for Bill'O the Clown getting skewered on the Daily Show?

That's Mike Huckabee.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on November 21, 2015, 09:34:02 pm
(http://oi68.tinypic.com/2vd61b5.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on November 24, 2015, 03:06:29 am
(http://images.dailykos.com/images/179734/story_image/TMW2015-11-25color.png?1448134714)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on November 26, 2015, 04:20:03 pm
(http://oi67.tinypic.com/35aoqar.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Even Then on November 26, 2015, 04:39:08 pm
In college, one can learn many important lessons, such as "It's important to stand firm for your principles and speak up against sexist microaggressions."

A good cartoon. (http://agoodcartoon.tumblr.com/)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RavynousHunter on November 26, 2015, 04:50:00 pm
I keep reading "microaggressions" as "microtransactions" for some reason.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on November 26, 2015, 04:50:17 pm
I was thinking:

Barely political. Doesn't really make any point and certainly no new poit

Not overly funny and very heavy reliance on cliche that has been around for 20 years and flogged to death.

Minimises genuine problems with indigenous americans and seeks to elide the cause for those problems by belittling them.

Reasonably good drawing.

Overall I would say  3/10
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: The_Queen on November 26, 2015, 07:36:07 pm
I was thinking:

Barely political. Doesn't really make any point and certainly no new poit

Not overly funny and very heavy reliance on cliche that has been around for 20 years and flogged to death.

Minimises genuine problems with indigenous americans and seeks to elide the cause for those problems by belittling them.

Reasonably good drawing.

Overall I would say  3/10

You just said what I was thinking, but what I am too intoxicated to put into coherent words. You are truly a benevolent lord cracker.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Sylvana on November 27, 2015, 12:57:32 am
I keep reading "microaggressions" as "microtransactions" for some reason.

Both deserve to be abolished.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: guizonde on November 27, 2015, 07:32:05 am
just checked my definition of eurocentrism. it's what i thought. thanksgiving is not eurocentric, seeing as it's a traditional north american holiday, celebrated only in north america. most europeans either don't know of its existence or see it from a bias lens ("celebrating the hostile takeover of the americas").
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on November 27, 2015, 08:07:03 am
I was thinking:

Barely political. Doesn't really make any point and certainly no new poit

Not overly funny and very heavy reliance on cliche that has been around for 20 years and flogged to death.

Minimises genuine problems with indigenous americans and seeks to elide the cause for those problems by belittling them.

Reasonably good drawing.

Overall I would say  3/10

You just said what I was thinking, but what I am too intoxicated to put into coherent words. You are truly a benevolent lord cracker.

I aim to please. I've been drinking too much lately but it's not to do with this place.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on November 27, 2015, 08:08:36 am
That's because you are using a different definition Eurocentrism. It is possible that this straw-person of a SJW is using "Euro" to refer to ethnicity rather than location.

...Or the artist just made wordsalad with words that Tumblrites use when they complain about things.

The latter is probably more likely.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: guizonde on November 27, 2015, 08:47:39 am
That's because you are using a different definition Eurocentrism. It is possible that this straw-person of a SJW is using "Euro" to refer to ethnicity rather than location.

...Or the artist just made wordsalad with words that Tumblrites use when they complain about things.

The latter is probably more likely.

i've seen it used geographically (like on a map), politically (as opposed to euro-sceptic), and sociologically (re:colonization). but i've never seen it used ethnically. there's just too much difference. hell, we live on two ends of the compass regarding europe, and we're not even talking about greece, bulgaria, or croatia. i'm sure someone would get offended mixing up a spaniard with a swede, nevermind serbs with croatians or something like that.

i've overthought this, meaning your second solution is most likely.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on November 27, 2015, 04:13:27 pm
An Australian Cartoon: http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/picture/2015/nov/25/this-white-ribbon-day-lets-raise-awareness-of-our-awareness-raising (http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/picture/2015/nov/25/this-white-ribbon-day-lets-raise-awareness-of-our-awareness-raising)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: pyro on November 27, 2015, 07:57:45 pm
I hear a point in the chick's remark, but "guys" as gender-neutral is getting pretty standard now, especially when it's used in "you guys" --- the plural form of "you".
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lt. Fred on November 27, 2015, 07:59:01 pm
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Sigmaleph on November 27, 2015, 08:41:30 pm
I hear a point in the chick's remark, but "guys" as gender-neutral is getting pretty standard now, especially when it's used in "you guys" --- the plural form of "you".

Bah. Clearly the plural form of you is y'all.

English speakers being all "oh no we contracted all forms of the second person pronoun into one and now we need to make distinctions" is fascinating to me.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: pyro on November 27, 2015, 08:53:06 pm
English speakers being all "oh no we contracted all forms of the second person pronoun into one and now we need to make distinctions" is fascinating to me.

(https://teacherdai.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/englishiscrazy.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: guizonde on November 27, 2015, 09:13:10 pm
I hear a point in the chick's remark, but "guys" as gender-neutral is getting pretty standard now, especially when it's used in "you guys" --- the plural form of "you".

Bah. Clearly the plural form of you is y'all.

English speakers being all "oh no we contracted all forms of the second person pronoun into one and now we need to make distinctions" is fascinating to me.

you want fun? try teaching an englishman and an american the distinctions between familiar and formal (vous/tu or usted/vos//tu). from experience, an american will adopt the familiar form, an englishman will adopt the formal (strict translation of "you", after all). and us bilinguals get very confused very quickly about which form to use with whom when mental and physical fatigue come into play.

my friends still make fun of me when i address a crowd as "tu" and one of them as "vous" when i'm not thinking clearly. to be fair, it's one crowd, so one entity, so it's a legit mistake. [/smartass]

@pyro: good one, i think there's one floating around about all the false rhymes too, something about only a native speaker being able to pronounce it correctly (although seeing some words, i'm pretty sure you need at least high school education to pull it off).
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Sleepy on November 27, 2015, 09:27:02 pm
I honestly wish English had a modern "usted" equivalent, because I've felt the need for it several times when speaking to people like professors and bosses.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: The_Queen on November 27, 2015, 11:15:33 pm
Eh, I learned "Sie" in German without much trouble. But, I am Southern. The type of Southern where I would get slapped across the face if I didn't refer to someone as "Mr.," "Ms.," "Sir," or "Ma'am." Probably helped me recognize the formal parts of language a bit easier.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Sigmaleph on November 27, 2015, 11:21:21 pm
I honestly wish English had a modern "usted" equivalent, because I've felt the need for it several times when speaking to people like professors and bosses.

It trades against the problem that you'd end up with people where formality standards are unclear and you don't know which to use. I've had professors who objected to overly-formal address, made them feel old.

I'd suggest bringing back 'thou', except given current cultural context it's going to sound more formal than 'you' and not less.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Svata on November 27, 2015, 11:39:23 pm
You is a bastardization of thou anyways. See wkikpedia thorn page section "Middle and Early Modern English". Extrapolate from "ye" (as in "ye olde butcherede englishe") being the, and pronounced as such, and, well, you see where I'm going.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: guizonde on November 27, 2015, 11:48:56 pm
I honestly wish English had a modern "usted" equivalent, because I've felt the need for it several times when speaking to people like professors and bosses.

It trades against the problem that you'd end up with people where formality standards are unclear and you don't know which to use. I've had professors who objected to overly-formal address, made them feel old.

I'd suggest bringing back 'thou', except given current cultural context it's going to sound more formal than 'you' and not less.

that happened to me wednesday. i was with an irish client, so when we first met, i was very polite and formal in french. then the translation started and we switched to english, and it sounded downright casual compared to when we spoke french. turned out it was a blessing in disguise as the session was about some very serious family business, and the family enjoyed the casualness my translation injected into the conversation.

also, first time i met my (american) anglophone coworkers, we instinctively switched to informal in french to try and grab back some of that casual feel from english. we got some odd stares from the russophones, talking with informal construction within minutes of meeting each other. it would seem maghrebi arabic is similar in that regard.

any pretense at knowing what we're doing flies out the window when addressing or getting addressed by english anglophones, though. "tu" and "vous" become interchangeable, which is part of the anglophone charm, or so i'm told.

to address your last point, sigma, i don't think bringing back thou is necessary, all we need to do is define clearly whether a language is formal or informal at its core. if it's informal like american, then use honorifics, like "sir", "ma'am", "miss" etc... that's how i've been winging it for the past few years, and it seems to be working, although i get "aww, cute, a little yankee" looks from englishmen.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on November 28, 2015, 11:47:59 am
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on November 28, 2015, 11:54:16 am
That actually is an objectively good political cartoon. Drawing could be better and sad rather than funny.
But good point well made (and cleverly too)


8 out of 10
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: pyro on November 28, 2015, 01:36:18 pm
And they didn't use a computer or xerox for the people.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: guizonde on November 28, 2015, 01:36:49 pm
that is clever. it represents very well voter apathy. that's also why voting is a right, not a duty. you're free to choose.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RavynousHunter on November 28, 2015, 02:26:16 pm
Though, making it a duty would potentially help with the issue of massive gerrymandering going on in the US.  Maybe not vote for everything, but something more along the lines of "you must vote in at least one formal election every 4 years."  Might not be the best solution, but...there's only so much you can do to prevent voter apathy.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: ironbite on November 28, 2015, 04:20:52 pm
Eh, I learned "Sie" in German without much trouble. But, I am Southern. The type of Southern where I would get slapped across the face if I didn't refer to someone as "Mr.," "Ms.," "Sir," or "Ma'am." Probably helped me recognize the formal parts of language a bit easier.

You're not that Southern.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: guizonde on November 28, 2015, 05:13:39 pm
Though, making it a duty would potentially help with the issue of massive gerrymandering going on in the US.  Maybe not vote for everything, but something more along the lines of "you must vote in at least one formal election every 4 years."  Might not be the best solution, but...there's only so much you can do to prevent voter apathy.

i dunno, belgium's got mandatory voting, and they actually manage to have the highest scores of blank voting in europe. in france, abstentionism can be political, not just apathy but saying "nothing here is representing me, so i forfeit my vote". that said, i'd be really interested to see how much abstentionism and blanks happen every election. there was a centrist candidate trying to promote that, but he got shot down like a pigeon at a skeet shoot.

a few months back, someone here talked about the tough problems americans had regarding voting. perhaps simplifying the procedure could be a step in the right direction, and opening voting booths on sundays, so people don't have to take half a day off.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RavynousHunter on November 28, 2015, 10:40:57 pm
Oh hell yeah, we could stop the whole voter cockblocking that bitches are trying to use to run this country even further into the fucking ground.  The rabid part of me just want to round up the bastards and drop them into the mantle, but that'd be...counterproductive.  Besides, someone would take their place.  Attitudes must be changed and, as appealing as it may be, violence typically gets exactly the opposite of what you want.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: pyro on November 29, 2015, 10:54:32 pm
Oh hell yeah, we could stop the whole voter cockblocking that bitches are trying to use to run this country even further into the fucking ground.  The rabid part of me just want to round up the bastards and drop them into the mantle, but that'd be...counterproductive.  Besides, someone would take their place.  Attitudes must be changed and, as appealing as it may be, violence typically gets exactly the opposite of what you want.

If violence does the opposite of what you want more than 50% of the time, then you're using it backwards. :-)

Also, "cockblocking?" Really?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RavynousHunter on November 29, 2015, 11:00:49 pm
Eh, its an accurate enough euphemism.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: pyro on November 29, 2015, 11:04:23 pm
Eh, its an accurate enough euphemism.

Isn't a euphemism supposed to be milder than the thing it's standing in for?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: The_Queen on November 30, 2015, 01:31:11 am
Eh, I learned "Sie" in German without much trouble. But, I am Southern. The type of Southern where I would get slapped across the face if I didn't refer to someone as "Mr.," "Ms.," "Sir," or "Ma'am." Probably helped me recognize the formal parts of language a bit easier.

You're not that Southern.

Yes, actually, I am. I learned in high school to suppress my southern accent so that I don't sound hill-billly. I have no qualms admitting that I come from white trash.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Svata on November 30, 2015, 02:08:40 am
Eh, its an accurate enough euphemism.

Isn't a euphemism supposed to be milder than the thing it's standing in for?


Preventing someone from getting laid is tamer than disenfranchisement, at least I think so.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RavynousHunter on November 30, 2015, 08:10:35 am
Eh, its an accurate enough euphemism.

Isn't a euphemism supposed to be milder than the thing it's standing in for?


Preventing someone from getting laid is tamer than disenfranchisement, at least I think so.

Also, not sure if that's a hard-and-fast rule or just a general guideline because the English language is the drunken offspring of German and Latin.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Vypernight on November 30, 2015, 09:01:35 am
Oh hell yeah, we could stop the whole voter cockblocking that bitches are trying to use to run this country even further into the fucking ground.  The rabid part of me just want to round up the bastards and drop them into the mantle, but that'd be...counterproductive.  Besides, someone would take their place.  Attitudes must be changed and, as appealing as it may be, violence typically gets exactly the opposite of what you want.

It doesn't help when some states (cough Florida cough) go out of their way to impede getting registered and even reducing voting locations so people either have to travel farther or wait in HUGE lines (Rick Scott tried that in 2012; luckily it still didn't help the GOP).
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RavynousHunter on November 30, 2015, 09:18:24 am
I think the left needs to have its own firebrands, people who can make emotional appeals and light a fire under the left's collective ass.  People with the kind of fury that gets people's blood boiling.  Enough so that, even when they try to fuck us over, it won't matter because people will go thru hell and high water to have their outraged voices heard.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: guizonde on November 30, 2015, 12:48:45 pm
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Here is what I wrote about Benghazi three years, six congressional investigations and $30 million ago:

"The Fox News/GOP public garment-rending over Benghazi would be more convicing if they had ever shown concern for the death and destruction their policies caused in the Mideast. Benghazi is pure, cynical political calculation. They take their cue from Stalin, who said one death is a tragedy, the death of millions is a statistic."

Mic drop.

- patrick f. bagley
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: TheL on November 30, 2015, 04:46:11 pm
Oh hell yeah, we could stop the whole voter cockblocking that bitches are trying to use to run this country even further into the fucking ground.  The rabid part of me just want to round up the bastards and drop them into the mantle, but that'd be...counterproductive.  Besides, someone would take their place.  Attitudes must be changed and, as appealing as it may be, violence typically gets exactly the opposite of what you want.

It doesn't help when some states (cough Florida cough) go out of their way to impede getting registered and even reducing voting locations so people either have to travel farther or wait in HUGE lines (Rick Scott tried that in 2012; luckily it still didn't help the GOP).

Not just Florida:  AL passed a law requiring a driver's license, then made it so that all but four DMV offices in the state no longer distribute driver's licenses.  The counties that stopped providing them?  All have a population that's 75% black.  But nooooo, they're not racist.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Sigmaleph on November 30, 2015, 06:29:32 pm
Eh, its an accurate enough euphemism.

Isn't a euphemism supposed to be milder than the thing it's standing in for?


Preventing someone from getting laid is tamer than disenfranchisement, at least I think so.

Also, not sure if that's a hard-and-fast rule or just a general guideline because the English language is the drunken offspring of German and Latin.

It is. Euphemism specifically means replacing a negatively-charged term with a nice- or neutral-sounding one. Doing the opposite is called "dysphemism".
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RavynousHunter on November 30, 2015, 08:42:07 pm
Huh, ya learn somethin new every day.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on November 30, 2015, 09:10:43 pm
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/picture/2015/nov/30/a-potato-in-paris-how-one-climate-denialist-potato-dreams-of-representing-australia (http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/picture/2015/nov/30/a-potato-in-paris-how-one-climate-denialist-potato-dreams-of-representing-australia)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: guizonde on December 01, 2015, 07:41:01 pm
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Skybison on December 01, 2015, 09:48:31 pm
(http://images.dailykos.com/images/163159/lightbox/trumprefugee720.png?1441675185)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: lord gibbon on December 01, 2015, 10:37:56 pm
That gave me way more joy than it should have.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: TheContrarian on December 02, 2015, 02:29:40 pm
(http://images.dailykos.com/images/163159/lightbox/trumprefugee720.png?1441675185)

Wouldn't that be a pretty solid argument in favour of completely closing the border?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: pyro on December 02, 2015, 06:58:38 pm
(http://images.dailykos.com/images/163159/lightbox/trumprefugee720.png?1441675185)

Wouldn't that be a pretty solid argument in favour of completely closing the border?

Unfortunately, Donald Trump is not the only immigrant from Syria.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: guizonde on December 03, 2015, 11:36:40 am
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: pyro on December 03, 2015, 02:33:05 pm
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I'm sorry, but that's blanket scare tactics... And I like the idea of limiting access dangerous stuff!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Id82 on December 05, 2015, 02:35:41 pm
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: I am lizard on December 10, 2015, 06:37:08 am
(http://i.imgur.com/hQVP2SZ.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on December 10, 2015, 08:32:24 am
(http://i.imgur.com/hQVP2SZ.jpg)

Let me guess: parody of Mallard Fillmore?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Even Then on December 10, 2015, 09:03:05 am
Taking the piss out of Mallard Fillmore is always a good cartoon.

Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on December 13, 2015, 01:21:35 pm
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: R. U. Sirius on December 13, 2015, 02:10:22 pm
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When has any protester ever made that claim?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: pyro on December 13, 2015, 03:42:50 pm
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When has any protester ever made that claim?

Considering how fat and conservatively-dressed the figure is, I don't think that's a protestor. The sign's just to make it clear what's being said.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on December 13, 2015, 04:24:31 pm
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When has any protester ever made that claim?

I can't think of any examples of protestors, per se, but there are people who say that.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on December 16, 2015, 03:39:50 pm
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: guizonde on December 18, 2015, 07:39:57 am
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on December 20, 2015, 05:55:10 pm
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: The_Queen on December 20, 2015, 07:13:07 pm
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Not quite accurate. Thomas holds the same position as Scalia while writing in many cases. In fact, it is well known that after getting his Yale degree, he put a 50 cents sticker on it to express his disgust with how little the degree did for him (feeling that because he was black, employers saw him as a product of affirmative action, and would not hire him). So, if anything, Thomas would point to himself as a prime example of what Scalia said.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: guizonde on December 21, 2015, 09:37:11 pm
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on December 27, 2015, 10:24:58 pm
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: guizonde on December 30, 2015, 02:56:42 pm
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on January 06, 2016, 08:51:15 pm
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Even Then on January 06, 2016, 09:26:28 pm
Option 3: Localizing Steven Universe in a way that erases two woman-looking beings being intimate is homophobic.

Related:

Quote from: tumblr user ap0calypticassass1n
and ill say it again: a company making the decision not to ship/localize their game to a certain region isnt censorship. they just dont want to send it there.

which is quite different from the censorship of a lesbian relationship by corporate authority

Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: guizonde on January 07, 2016, 09:57:57 am
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on January 07, 2016, 10:04:33 am
I don't know if the guy in the middle, with the two kids, is supposed to be someone creepy (who may have done creepy things to kids?) or just a regular person who uses the same phrase but I think the comic would work even better in the latter case.

Not everyone who says that they are doing god's work does horrible things, not everyone who does horrible things claims that they are doing it for their god, but there is enough overlap on this subject that it is notable.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on January 07, 2016, 10:46:10 am
I think the eyes of the kids are meant to tell you its creepy, I think he's the guy from the breakaway Church of later Day Saints who had a lot of spiritual wives who were under age.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on January 07, 2016, 11:01:39 am
Option 3: Localizing Steven Universe in a way that erases two woman-looking beings being intimate is homophobic.

Related:

Quote from: tumblr user ap0calypticassass1n
and ill say it again: a company making the decision not to ship/localize their game to a certain region isnt censorship. they just dont want to send it there.

which is quite different from the censorship of a lesbian relationship by corporate authority

I'm sorry, all I see is "Double standard double standard double standard."
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Sigmaleph on January 07, 2016, 11:13:57 am
Option 3: Localizing Steven Universe in a way that erases two woman-looking beings being intimate is homophobic.

Related:

Quote from: tumblr user ap0calypticassass1n
and ill say it again: a company making the decision not to ship/localize their game to a certain region isnt censorship. they just dont want to send it there.

which is quite different from the censorship of a lesbian relationship by corporate authority

I'm sorry, all I see is "Double standard double standard double standard."

...sometimes two things are different and so it makes sense to have different standards for them. You can argue that any form of influence exerted on media to conform to some moral standard is bad, but you have to, y'know, actually make the argument.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on January 07, 2016, 11:19:43 am
Fact is, there's no meaningful difference.  Both involve prudes taking out content because "it might offend someone" or "because kids might see it."  It's the exact same fucking thing - you just don't want to admit I was right.

While I'm not happy about Steven Universe getting censored, I can't help but feel some schadenfreude.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: I am lizard on January 07, 2016, 11:41:40 am
When Sig bans me for posting furry porn it's meaningfully diffrent than banning me for saying "Gay people exist"
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on January 07, 2016, 11:42:48 am
Since I made a promise to Sleepy, I'm going to take this elsewhere.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: I am lizard on January 07, 2016, 11:56:42 am
For the best.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ironchew on January 10, 2016, 08:07:26 pm
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on January 10, 2016, 08:09:40 pm
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Wrong thread.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ironchew on January 10, 2016, 08:13:14 pm
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Wrong thread.

Care to elaborate?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on January 10, 2016, 08:13:35 pm
(http://wondermark.com/c/2014-10-24-1071offend.png)

Wrong thread.

Care to elaborate?

Because that's not why most people are against political correctness.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ironchew on January 10, 2016, 08:17:00 pm
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Wrong thread.

Care to elaborate?

Because that's not why most people are against political correctness.

Care to elaborate further? Perhaps follow that statement up with why you think they are against political correctness?

Really, I'm interested to see how you spin this. Bonus points for mentioning cultural Marxism.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on January 10, 2016, 08:29:20 pm
(http://wondermark.com/c/2014-10-24-1071offend.png)

Wrong thread.

Care to elaborate?

Because that's not why most people are against political correctness.

Care to elaborate further? Perhaps follow that statement up with why you think they are against political correctness?

Really, I'm interested to see how you spin this. Bonus points for mentioning cultural Marxism.

Because it makes it harder to talk about legitimate issues, for one thing.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ironchew on January 10, 2016, 08:32:29 pm
-snip-

Wrong thread.

Care to elaborate?

Because that's not why most people are against political correctness.

Care to elaborate further? Perhaps follow that statement up with why you think they are against political correctness?

Really, I'm interested to see how you spin this. Bonus points for mentioning cultural Marxism.

Because it makes it harder to talk about legitimate issues, for one thing.

Getting a complete thought out of you is like pulling teeth, UP.

"For one thing" implies you have more to say. Why not say it all in one post?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on January 11, 2016, 02:55:51 am
Let's be honest, the dude in the Wondermark comic is a strawman. People who oppose PC culture are not doing it because they want to physically trample on the feet of others.

Some of the people who oppose PC culture are incredible assholes but instead of using those real people or the real claims they make the comic made fun of them by making them even more ridiculous.

So basically, comic makes a good point but uses a strawman as the opposite instead of the real claims.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on January 11, 2016, 03:51:47 am
It's not a strawman Askold. It's an anology. The whole point is that no one would ever suggest that you should be physically able to walk all over people without heed so why should you be able to do it verbally.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Sigmaleph on January 11, 2016, 11:50:24 am
Let's be honest, the dude in the Wondermark comic is a strawman. People who oppose PC culture are not doing it because they want to physically trample on the feet of others.

Some of the people who oppose PC culture are incredible assholes but instead of using those real people or the real claims they make the comic made fun of them by making them even more ridiculous.

So basically, comic makes a good point but uses a strawman as the opposite instead of the real claims.

I mean, it's comedic exaggeration, but it's a comic. It makes jokes. It's not really the place for rigorous, nuanced analysis of opposing views. (Wondermark is not a specifically political comic, but it comments on social trends sometimes)

The idea being parodied and exaggerated is real, but it's not the entirety of opposition to political correctness.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Dr. Weird on January 11, 2016, 04:45:24 pm
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-NBVJk4nd9UQ/VpGbzOBpwbI/AAAAAAABYYM/fLG4gj8e1GI/s640/6%2Bdrew%2Bsheneman%2B-%2Btribune%2Bmedia%2Bservices.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on January 11, 2016, 07:22:26 pm
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-NBVJk4nd9UQ/VpGbzOBpwbI/AAAAAAABYYM/fLG4gj8e1GI/s640/6%2Bdrew%2Bsheneman%2B-%2Btribune%2Bmedia%2Bservices.jpg)

On that note, it's hilarious how the same people who are adamantly against universal single-payer health care won't countenance anything that might threaten Medicare.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: mellenORL on January 11, 2016, 08:01:21 pm
Or Social Security. The derp is deep with this country.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: guizonde on January 12, 2016, 03:37:22 pm
(http://www.sltrib.com/csp/mediapool/sites/dt.common.streams.StreamServer.cls?STREAMOID=6dPQFAx5F3eqrozo7Y8En8$daE2N3K4ZzOUsqbU5sYv1jkgYC7JRmxjjtubPIVc5WCsjLu883Ygn4B49Lvm9bPe2QeMKQdVeZmXF$9l$4uCZ8QDXhaHEp3rvzXRJFdy0KqPHLoMevcTLo3h8xh70Y6N_U_CryOsw6FTOdKL_jpQ-&CONTENTTYPE=image/jpeg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Id82 on January 13, 2016, 01:31:29 pm
(https://scontent-dfw1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfa1/v/t1.0-9/12523109_934025866688036_4790044564436379661_n.jpg?oh=41a899c46d50077c54898745cfa80f70&oe=570C6B1A)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: mellenORL on January 13, 2016, 02:05:21 pm
Wow. Trump actually performed this political cartoon live. That is exactly what he said on site, as she was being removed by security guards.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: pyro on January 13, 2016, 11:14:07 pm
Wow. Trump actually performed this political cartoon live. That is exactly what he said on site, as she was being removed by security guards.

YouTube link?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: guizonde on January 14, 2016, 10:21:30 am
(http://www.thenation.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/TMW2016-01-13colorLARGE.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RavynousHunter on January 14, 2016, 10:46:49 am
Is there a link to those comics?  Because I swear every single one of 'em is bloody gold.  In a good way.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: guizonde on January 14, 2016, 10:51:39 am
i don't know. i ripped it out of the nation (http://www.thenation.com/article/get-yours-now-the-junior-militiaman-anti-government-playset/)'s webpage. hope it helps.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RavynousHunter on January 14, 2016, 10:58:25 am
Thankee, Gui!  If nothing else, its a place to start.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: mellenORL on January 14, 2016, 11:36:41 am
Wow. Trump actually performed this political cartoon live. That is exactly what he said on site, as she was being removed by security guards.

YouTube link?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGIfoqhwIKY

Trump statement quoted in cartoon begins at about 30:20.

ADDENDUM: corrected the time stamp for when Trump says the quote from 28:40 to 30:20.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: lord gibbon on January 14, 2016, 03:41:10 pm
Here you go, Rav: http://thismodernworld.com/
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RavynousHunter on January 14, 2016, 03:47:11 pm
Wooh!  Thankee, Gibbon!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on January 15, 2016, 10:30:38 am
(http://blogs.denverpost.com/opinion-cartoons/files/2016/01/david-bowie-cartoon-luckovich.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: mellenORL on January 15, 2016, 10:41:26 am
Aww, Mike Luckovich. One of the reasons I was proud to live in Atlanta for so long. Classy cartoonist.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on January 16, 2016, 03:45:41 am
(https://scontent-arn2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/v/t1.0-9/1424580_10151811726336720_2129320190_n.jpg?oh=1e8a1f4346ca6ce32a64373fb9ac4978&oe=57371B55)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on January 18, 2016, 07:08:55 pm
(https://exopermaculture.files.wordpress.com/2016/01/david-bowie-cartoon-beeler.jpg?w=990)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on January 19, 2016, 03:26:50 pm
(http://i2.wp.com/fusiondotnet.files.wordpress.com/2016/01/trumpgirls1500.png?resize=1024%2C1036&quality=80&strip=all)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Even Then on January 19, 2016, 03:33:01 pm
Is that the actual name of the group? And are those the actual lyrics? Fuck, since when did America become the dystopia from We?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Sleepy on January 19, 2016, 05:20:46 pm
The USA Freedom Kids are a real group, sadly enough. And they're all between the ages of 8-12, so it's really comprised of asshole parents who should have never had kids in the first place.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Even Then on January 19, 2016, 05:40:48 pm
See, this is why I think aspiring parents should have to pass a series of tests to see if they're worthy of taking care of new life that's going to be depending on them and shaped by them. Fuck, some nations require a license for having a dog, but two random yucks can bump uglies and be allowed to raise a mentally malleable kid?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: niam2023 on January 19, 2016, 05:46:03 pm
Godwin's Law is dead at this point - Trump has done everything except revive the Schutzstaff----

fuck. Me.

That's what he's gonna do next. I just jinxed it.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on January 20, 2016, 04:12:53 pm
A Trump Cartoon:

(https://humorinamerica.files.wordpress.com/2015/09/new1.jpg)

(http://www.elkharttruth.com/image/2015/07/22/975x800/Deal-with-it.tif)

(http://anewdomain.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/9-14-15.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on January 25, 2016, 07:47:48 am
(http://media.cagle.com/81/2016/01/21/174406_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Random Gal on January 25, 2016, 04:22:00 pm
Sadly, I can see a Trump/Palin ticket happening.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Zygarde on January 25, 2016, 04:28:08 pm
Oh gods no, just...no. Trump is already bad enough Trump/Palin is worse.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Random Gal on January 25, 2016, 04:39:06 pm
At least with that combination one would hope it would be too ridiculous to vote for.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on January 25, 2016, 04:41:15 pm
At least with that combination one would hope it would be too ridiculous to vote for.

Since she sank McCain's campaign, that seems pretty likely.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Vypernight on January 26, 2016, 06:59:42 am
Unfortunately, Trump is such an anomaly, this will only boost his numbers even further. 
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Svata on January 26, 2016, 08:22:47 am
I'm pertty sure Trump's numbers would rise if he fucked a sheep, at this point.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on January 31, 2016, 09:50:20 am
(http://image.cleveland.com/home/cleve-media/width620/img/darcy/photo/19596140-mmmain.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on February 01, 2016, 07:08:01 am
(https://scontent-arn2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtf1/v/t1.0-0/s480x480/12670175_1714701745418121_8810887002132663207_n.jpg?oh=333b08f7aa92e4be77491569f14859a5&oe=572BBB71)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: I am lizard on February 03, 2016, 03:22:04 am
(http://www.nyu.edu/projects/ollman/images/cartoon01.gif)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on February 03, 2016, 12:41:58 pm
(http://images.dailykos.com/images/204002/story_image/bo160203.png?1454447707)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: I am lizard on February 03, 2016, 09:45:01 pm
It must take a lot of doublethink to simultaneously be a hardcore supporter of the police on minute, then pretent like you're part of a noble, anti-Goverment group the next.

Edit: another great example of that kind of doublethink is how conservatives will go on about how it's their right to "offend" LIEberals and Muslims but will openly call for violence when someone burns the flag.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on February 06, 2016, 07:30:20 pm
(http://media.cagle.com/77/2016/02/05/175102_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ironchew on February 06, 2016, 08:05:41 pm
I didn't know yellowface was still in vogue with political cartoons.

Apparently it becomes okay when the target is sanctioned for public hate, like it always was.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RavynousHunter on February 06, 2016, 09:08:38 pm
His face actually looks like that.  Good likeness, in fact.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: pyro on February 06, 2016, 10:26:33 pm
(http://dailyentertainmentnews.com/wpgo/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/Martin-Shkreli-girlfriend-pics-1024x609.jpg)

I say it's not a terribly good likeness. Namely, he's not buck-toothed.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Zygarde on February 07, 2016, 12:00:18 am
Man even if it's just a picture of him I want to punch his stupid face.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on February 07, 2016, 12:04:35 am
Man even if it's just a picture of him I want to punch his stupid face.

That's nothing to be ashamed of.  It just means you're human.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: lord gibbon on February 07, 2016, 12:42:10 am
The second most punchable face in America (Ted Cruz is still first).
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Art Vandelay on February 07, 2016, 01:11:39 am
I still say that Skrillex has the world's most punchable face.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on February 07, 2016, 01:41:53 am
The second most punchable face in America (Ted Cruz is still first).

If there's one thing that would almost make me willing to admit that Cruz is Canadian, it would be so that PharmaDouche can have the most punchable face in America.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ironchew on February 07, 2016, 01:33:30 pm
Man even if it's just a picture of him I want to punch his stupid face.

That's nothing to be ashamed of.  It just means you're human.

I'm pretty sure anyone with a solid grounding in ethics would say that is shameful; furthermore, "It just means you're human" is an appeal to the naturalistic fallacy.

The Christlike paragon who's all about ethics should be on the ball with this stuff.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Sigmaleph on February 07, 2016, 02:42:34 pm
I would say that a solid grounding on ethics will tell you that wanting to punch someone isn't shameful, though actually punching them can be.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: SCarpelan on February 07, 2016, 03:41:15 pm
Yep. Emotions and desires aren't controllable and thus can't be unethical. Indulging them is another matter.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on February 10, 2016, 12:03:30 pm
(http://images.dailykos.com/images/207139/story_image/1201.png?1455052832)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on February 17, 2016, 02:18:29 am
(http://media2.wcpo.com/photo/2016/02/13/20160213_scalia_900px_1455411066661_31871217_ver1.0_640_480.jpg)

(http://media.cagle.com/77/2016/02/14/175480_600.jpg)

(http://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/def8ff6cecf5bfb234db7790a9a39f8db2e51dd5/c=36-0-1887-1388&r=x404&c=534x401/local/-/media/2015/06/12/Salem/B9317717645Z.1_20150612223151_000_GPKB2KD23.1-0.jpg)

(http://vortalobjects.secureitm.com/image/wwrl1/UserFiles/Image/cartoon-voting-rights-act-scalia.jpeg)

(http://www.alternet.org/files/bo160216.png)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on February 17, 2016, 03:56:37 pm
(https://tytempletonart.files.wordpress.com/2015/06/fun-with-flags-websize-revised.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on February 17, 2016, 05:22:37 pm
In two minds about this one, while I agree with the sentiment the drawing is a bit rubbish.

(http://anewdomain.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/2-16-16.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: niam2023 on February 17, 2016, 05:41:04 pm
There is also the biting irony of it - conservatives want to essentially overwrite the constitution with an old tradition they had no loyalty to before, and Scalia was a strict constitutional originalist...

So essentially they're in spirit disregarding the powers outlined in the constitution that Scalia, their dear martyr, held so dear in order to score political hit points on a departing President. Then again, Modern Republicans exploiting the memory of one of their own for political gain is not so unusual.

I also heard, oddly enough, that Ruth Bader Ginsburg was a friend of Scalia, and I really don't get the friendship thing there.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on February 17, 2016, 06:11:27 pm
Lots of people have different ideologies/ world views and remain friends. Chifley the greatest Australian Labor Prime Minister was friends with Menzies (they used to swap detective novels). Even Fraser and Whitlam became friends in later life.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ironchew on February 17, 2016, 06:20:18 pm
In two minds about this one, while I agree with the sentiment the drawing is a bit rubbish.

-snip-

Reminds me of Red Mage's wily portable hole escape. 8-bit Theater was a great webcomic.

(http://i.imgur.com/wNTeePu.png) (http://www.nuklearpower.com/2009/06/13/episode-1140-where-the-sun-dont-shine)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on February 17, 2016, 07:28:56 pm
I also heard, oddly enough, that Ruth Bader Ginsburg was a friend of Scalia, and I really don't get the friendship thing there.

Apparently, she advised him to tone down his dissents, suggesting that he'd be more effective in getting his views across if he weren't so bombastic.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: niam2023 on February 17, 2016, 11:23:24 pm
Despite our disagreements on politics, I found Scalia's remarks on this bizarre golf case that (somehow) made its way to the Supreme Court to be completely hilarious and sassy.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on February 17, 2016, 11:34:31 pm
Despite our disagreements on politics, I found Scalia's remarks on this bizarre golf case that (somehow) made its way to the Supreme Court to be completely hilarious and sassy.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/00-24.ZD.html

That one? I agree, it's hilarious.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Svata on February 18, 2016, 01:29:21 am
or his b-hole. same thing.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on February 19, 2016, 08:28:21 pm
(http://chuckleaduck.com/comics/2016-02-10CAD961TrumpCruz.png)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: I am lizard on February 21, 2016, 02:35:21 am
(http://img14.deviantart.net/da7b/i/2016/018/5/8/deportation_by_rednblacksalamander-d9ohxa7.png)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: SCarpelan on February 21, 2016, 09:40:30 am
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CbqPx0bWIAEC5vO.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on February 22, 2016, 10:24:12 am
(http://img14.deviantart.net/da7b/i/2016/018/5/8/deportation_by_rednblacksalamander-d9ohxa7.png)

At first I thought this cartoon was stupid, because it generalized frat boys and played into stereotypes.  Then I realized that was probably the point.  It's meant to show that judging people by a few bad apples is ridiculous and unjust.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on February 27, 2016, 05:05:08 pm
(http://media.cagle.com/77/2016/02/26/176002_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Svata on February 27, 2016, 05:45:05 pm
Yeah, screw privacy!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on February 27, 2016, 05:54:52 pm
Yeah, screw privacy!

That's... really not what I got from this.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Svata on February 27, 2016, 06:23:42 pm
Yeah, screw privacy!

That's... really not what I got from this.

I could easily be misinterpreting it. I'm going on 28 hours without slerep.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ironchew on February 27, 2016, 06:39:52 pm
Not a fan of this one. It's being deliberately noncommittal.

Also, good luck teasing a multipost complete thought out of UP as to what he did get from it.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Sigmaleph on February 28, 2016, 10:28:05 am
I didn't really get anything beyond "this is the situation we are currently in"
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on February 28, 2016, 10:41:46 am
The way I see it... The cartoonist believes that all Muslims are evil and that the "lone terrorist" thingy is just PC bullshit to cover the fact that every single individual Muslim should be considered an enemy. Then the FBI would like to protect USA from these enemies but Apple (and the traitorous justice system) is stopping them and only the supreme court could order them to let FBI spy on people (more than they already do) but without Scalia the only way to fulfill this plan is to stop Obama from picking a judge (and apparently he also needs to be stopped from releasing the prisoners in Guantanamo bay.)

Note that the only time a Muslim isn't shown to be an evil terrorist in the comic is the panel with the refugees BUT the next to panels show ISIS recruiter and a Muslim who has entered USA and is a terrorist. The kindest conclusion from this is that every refugee should be considered a potential terrorist and the only way to prevent such terrorist from entering among the innocent refugees is to spy on their phones (which Apple is trying to stop from happening.)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Svata on February 28, 2016, 10:52:55 am
Ah, good, it wasn't just sleep-deprivation that read that into it for me then.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on February 28, 2016, 11:44:45 am
The way I see it... The cartoonist believes that all Muslims are evil and that the "lone terrorist" thingy is just PC bullshit to cover the fact that every single individual Muslim should be considered an enemy. Then the FBI would like to protect USA from these enemies but Apple (and the traitorous justice system) is stopping them and only the supreme court could order them to let FBI spy on people (more than they already do) but without Scalia the only way to fulfill this plan is to stop Obama from picking a judge (and apparently he also needs to be stopped from releasing the prisoners in Guantanamo bay.)

Note that the only time a Muslim isn't shown to be an evil terrorist in the comic is the panel with the refugees BUT the next to panels show ISIS recruiter and a Muslim who has entered USA and is a terrorist. The kindest conclusion from this is that every refugee should be considered a potential terrorist and the only way to prevent such terrorist from entering among the innocent refugees is to spy on their phones (which Apple is trying to stop from happening.)

I didn't see it like that.  The Gitmo prisoner isn't really portrayed in a negative light, and Apples privacy concerns are represented by the Statue of Liberty.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: pyro on February 28, 2016, 06:17:19 pm
It clearly isn't a "best political cartoon," then, if we can't even read it.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on February 29, 2016, 01:37:37 am
I didn't see it like that.  The Gitmo prisoner isn't really portrayed in a negative light, and Apples privacy concerns are represented by the Statue of Liberty.

Did you even look at the comic? The GITMO prisoner has the same "crazy eyes" as the lone gunman few panels later and he is grimacing.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on February 29, 2016, 01:42:45 am
I didn't see it like that.  The Gitmo prisoner isn't really portrayed in a negative light, and Apples privacy concerns are represented by the Statue of Liberty.

Did you even look at the comic? The GITMO prisoner has the same "crazy eyes" as the lone gunman few panels later and he is grimacing.

Maybe he's just angry at being locked up without charge or trial.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Svata on February 29, 2016, 02:42:52 am
In my personal experience, the phrase "the fix is in" carries negative connotations. Using that to refer to keeping the Gov't from gaining access to all of the phones implies they are pro phone-access.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on February 29, 2016, 09:38:21 am
In my personal experience, the phrase "the fix is in" carries negative connotations. Using that to refer to keeping the Gov't from gaining access to all of the phones implies they are pro phone-access.

Pretty sure the bit about the fix being in refers to the GOP refusing to replace Scalia.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: The_Queen on February 29, 2016, 09:42:09 am
I didn't see it like that.  The Gitmo prisoner isn't really portrayed in a negative light, and Apples privacy concerns are represented by the Statue of Liberty.

Did you even look at the comic? The GITMO prisoner has the same "crazy eyes" as the lone gunman few panels later and he is grimacing.

Maybe he's just angry at being locked up without charge or trial.

You're so cute when you grasp at straws
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on February 29, 2016, 02:49:10 pm
Except here's a cartoon mocking people afraid of Gitmo prisoners:

(http://media.cagle.com/77/2015/11/12/171370_600.jpg)

And here are some other cartoons he did on the refugee crisis:

(http://media.cagle.com/77/2015/11/24/172022_600.jpg)

(http://media.cagle.com/77/2015/11/17/171707_600.jpg)

As for his views on terrorism:

(http://media.cagle.com/77/2015/12/02/172404_600.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on March 02, 2016, 07:12:46 pm
(http://media.cagle.com/46/2016/02/26/176011_600.jpg)

I'm not sure if this actually fits here at all. I suspect it belongs in weird political cartoons. A category which would be wall to wall Dees and the Guardian:

(http://api.theweek.com/sites/default/files/styles/large/public/1.%2053_174101.jpg?itok=QADmaJim)

Speaking of Dees - here he is. I have put him in here because while I think he is wrong, and probably certifiable, I find his art kinda awesome.

(http://theuglytruth.files.wordpress.com/2016/02/trump28730105_n-23.jpg?w=620)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Tolpuddle Martyr on March 03, 2016, 05:29:49 am
First Dog on the Moon (http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/picture/2016/mar/02/george-pell-they-didnt-tell-me-because-they-were-worried-i-might-ask-difficult-questions) on George Pell's appearance before the Royal Commission.

(click to show/hide)

Warning, huge
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on March 03, 2016, 04:47:37 pm
Fuck I love First Dog on the Moon.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Random Gal on March 04, 2016, 08:09:21 am
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-CDGWid9pfec/Vm26dEhkB-I/AAAAAAAARJE/-OOnqgm7PTs/s1600/the-strip-slide-EYV0-jumbo-v5.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on April 10, 2016, 12:02:43 pm
(https://scontent-arn2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xlf1/v/t1.0-0/p480x480/12805855_754749111292532_4927641259294004001_n.jpg?oh=da62a9021375657991ae4d5a709f2cfa&oe=577849E6)

Translation: "The immigrants are sucking up all our tax money!"

Obvious reference to Nordea teaching their customers how to hide their money in tax havens and occasionally even telling them to alter documents and change the dates on documents afterwards because the bank certainly did not want to have their customers get caught doing tax evasion.

...And some people still complain about immigrants and think that they are the real threat to well being of Nordic countries.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on April 13, 2016, 12:30:55 am
Just for Niam:

(http://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/c2/31/8e/c2318e74ebcfda35c6f2020eea843737.jpg)

(http://beastrabban.files.wordpress.com/2015/12/trump-hitler.jpg)

(http://img.washingtonpost.com/wp-apps/imrs.php?src=https://img.washingtonpost.com/news/comic-riffs/wp-content/uploads/sites/15/2015/12/TRUMP-muslimtoon-cavna-canvas.png&w=1484)

(http://image.syracuse.com/home/syr-media/width960/img/post-standard/photo/2015/12/11/-9eccb5159ae06db8.jpg)

And some more funny ones:

(http://blogs.denverpost.com/opinion-cartoons/files/2016/01/palin-endorses-trump-cartoon-luckovich.jpg)

(http://www.usnews.com/dims4/USNEWS/d4c1a18/2147483647/thumbnail/720x468>/quality/85/?url=%2Fcmsmedia%2Fbd%2F4d%2F4e9497f44776a82d1aaa33410970%2Fthumb-2.jpg)

(http://image.cleveland.com/home/cleve-media/width620/img/darcy/photo/19596140-mmmain.jpg)

(http://i.ytimg.com/vi/wlsOYZ6EGpw/maxresdefault.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on April 13, 2016, 01:16:37 am
Now that I've seen so many comics and writers compare Trump to Hitler I wish to point out one way in which Trump is better: Having a moustache like Hitler does is now frowned upon merely because Hitler had facial hair like that. If the same applies to Trump this will merely mean that unkempt hair and bad comb-overs will be all but gone. (Unless the person with bad hair is a fan of Trump which is still a win-win situation.)

Hitler also gave a bad name to the name Adolf which is a shame but I am hoping that Donald Duck is recognizable enough to protect "Donald" from suffering the same.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: niam2023 on April 13, 2016, 01:44:08 am
Thank you, Davedan.

I am amazed nobody has taken shots at Trump's assistant Robin Himmler. As in, she actually has that name. Did not change that last name. And somehow got through high school with that last name.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on April 14, 2016, 05:35:20 am
I'm not sure where to put this (I don't know if it should have its own thread), but...

Anyway, when he was still in power, Harper signed a deal with Saudi Arabia to sell arms to them. Never mind that Saudi Arabia goes out and uses them on civilians.

What does Justin Trudeau do when he takes power? Claims he's stuck with a signed contract and that he would never have negotiated it.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canada-saudi-arabia-arms-lav-contract-liberals-conservatives-neil-macdonald-1.3534795

There's a catch: Stephane Dion, his Foreign Affairs Minister, just concurred with the memo written by his department's staff on why the deal is A-OK.

Meanwhile, when the Liberals were in Opposition, one of Trudeau's main advisors posted this picture on Twitter:

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B76GYs2CUAARzMM.jpg)

Somehow, now that his party's in power, all those concerns have gone right out the window.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Tolpuddle Martyr on April 15, 2016, 09:14:19 pm
Presidential pokemons.

(http://static2.gamespot.com/uploads/scale_super/1551/15511094/3021636-8076666672-CdPe6.jpg)

(http://static3.gamespot.com/uploads/scale_super/1551/15511094/3021638-1570658743-CdPf_.jpg)

(http://static4.gamespot.com/uploads/scale_super/1551/15511094/3021639-5771676262-CdPie.jpg)

(http://static5.gamespot.com/uploads/scale_super/1551/15511094/3021642-0778684773-CdTuF.jpg)

(http://static1.gamespot.com/uploads/scale_super/1551/15511094/3021643-8841935733-CdTvZ.jpg)

(http://static2.gamespot.com/uploads/scale_super/1551/15511094/3021645-5503985849-CdPms.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 20, 2016, 10:13:49 am
(http://41.media.tumblr.com/b1c2e3e519efc04c0d95d91dfa6805a0/tumblr_o3voxllNKi1qd65vgo1_1280.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on April 23, 2016, 11:36:32 am
(click to show/hide)

I'd have shrunk this, but I was afraid some of the text might've been illegible.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Tolpuddle Martyr on April 24, 2016, 01:14:27 am
(click to show/hide)

I'd have shrunk this, but I was afraid some of the text might've been illegible.
Is their couch having sex with that woman? Her posture and demeanor appear to suggest it.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: mellenORL on April 24, 2016, 09:21:39 am
My neighbor's cat does that when she's in heat...backs her ass up against the couch.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: niam2023 on April 26, 2016, 05:56:00 pm
Darkstalker Kaathe: You know what you need to do? Take some of my power and feed on your Tax Collector's humanity.

-screams in the background depicting tax collectors getting harvested by Darkwraiths-
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Veras on April 28, 2016, 11:45:58 pm
(click to show/hide)

I'd have shrunk this, but I was afraid some of the text might've been illegible.
Is their couch having sex with that woman? Her posture and demeanor appear to suggest it.

I'm pretty sure she's a cardboard cutout.  It looks to me like he is sitting with his back against the couch, but she is on her hands and knees between him and it.  She must be two-dimensional.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: niam2023 on April 28, 2016, 11:51:36 pm
I suppose that's the newest effect of getting hit by a Darkwraith's Dark Hand attack - now it sucks dimensions out of you. Poor girl got drained down to two dimensions by one of Kaathe's men.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on April 29, 2016, 12:31:51 am
Jago makes fun comics but their artistic skills are a bit limited. Usually it shows whenever the comic has people who aren't one of the three main characters but I guess the perspective here is also a bit off.

EDIT:
(http://i.imgur.com/goZwXoc.jpg)

Reminds me of the comic where the artist is going on about how the perfect, although outrageous, metaphor for the political situation in USA would be to make a comic where Cheney shoots a guy in the face and then the victim makes a public announcement where he apologizes for getting shot.

...But then that happened as well.

EDIT 2:
(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on May 06, 2016, 12:05:00 am
(http://oi66.tinypic.com/15ewk8h.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on May 07, 2016, 06:12:20 am
Let's see if I can manage this on my phone...

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on May 07, 2016, 06:45:39 am
Let's see if I can manage this on my phone...

(click to show/hide)

Shift all of those way to the right and it'd be more accurate.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on May 07, 2016, 07:41:34 am
Let's see if I can manage this on my phone...

(click to show/hide)

Shift all of those way to the right and it'd be more accurate.


That's a matter of scaling. They've been put into the parties based on how they stand / are seen to stand in the U.S. politics rather than how they would be placed if evaluated by Finnish standards.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: SCarpelan on May 07, 2016, 10:00:26 am
The worst fits are National Coalition and Swedish People's party. Both are socially way too liberal for any Republican candidate. Trump in the Finns and Jill Stein in the Green Party are the best fits.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on May 09, 2016, 06:23:07 pm
(http://wrongologist.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/COW-NC-Bathrooms.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: mellenORL on May 14, 2016, 01:04:43 pm
We do allow memes in this thread, right?

(http://i.imgur.com/bS0bsWl.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on May 21, 2016, 01:51:41 pm
(http://oi63.tinypic.com/a26u5t.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on May 25, 2016, 12:18:20 am
What did they do when it didn't even save them:

(click to show/hide)

Spoilered because it's big.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RavynousHunter on May 25, 2016, 12:19:36 am
Oh god, that sleazy smile...I think I might be sick.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on May 25, 2016, 12:25:24 am
I'm not actually sure where this classifies but given that the drawing is pretty good I'm going to put it here even though the only message is that Ben Garrison wants to give Donald Trump and handjob:

(http://grrrgraphics.files.wordpress.com/2016/05/trump_slam_dunk_ben_garrison.jpg?w=640&h=468)


Ravy: Really captures his face doesn't it?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RavynousHunter on May 25, 2016, 12:27:44 am
Ubermensch Trump.  God, that's fucking creepy as hell...and hilarious.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on May 25, 2016, 06:30:11 pm
Spoilered because huge and disturbingly accurate drawing of Ted Cruz

(click to show/hide)

Turns out everyone despises Ted. Unfortunately signs are that he will slime back in 4 years.

(http://jensorensen.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/labor-trump600.png)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on May 26, 2016, 07:03:58 pm
We return our regular viewers to First Dog on the moon http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/may/20/we-have-an-old-saying-in-the-dog-whistle-business (http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/may/20/we-have-an-old-saying-in-the-dog-whistle-business)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on May 28, 2016, 01:36:02 am
(https://scontent-arn2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/s480x480/13239047_1177945042215893_934566841996292472_n.jpg?oh=1d34418c933aa7bd51f24bac441f9f5e&oe=57C86A0B)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on May 30, 2016, 02:17:48 am
(http://api.theweek.com/sites/default/files/styles/large/public/2.20160211edhoc-a.jpg?itok=XCpw2nmJ)

(http://media.townhall.com/Townhall/Car/b/81_17977620160525011808.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on May 30, 2016, 03:37:30 am
...I think it is anti-Hillary because she appears to be simply complaining and assuming that the girls should vote for her rather than giving them any actual reason to vote for her while they clearly are Bernie fans.

Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: The_Queen on May 30, 2016, 03:43:51 am
-snip-
Is there a joke here? This isn't even one of those "People who I disagree with are dum." cartoons, like what are the girls doing wrong?

Maybe the whole Bernie or Bust thing that young people are getting all high and mighty about. Statistics show that the gap between Hillary and Trump is narrowing. However, it is not because Hillary is a weak candidate, but because of Bernie or Bust. Hillary does as well as Bernie with true independents (http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/sanders-isnt-doing-well-with-true-independents/?ex_cid=538fb) (those who have voted for both republicans and democrats and are the "swing voters"). This stat is also misleading as Hillary is a known figure, but Bernie hasn't really been in the attack spotlight, and his favorables are likely misleadingly high. To the contrary, the GOP and it's operatives have been doing their best to help Bernie (http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2016-01-19/republican-operatives-are-trying-to-help-bernie-sanders) so as to collaterally hurt Hillary. However, Hillary isn't picking up the democratic-leaning independents* (that skew Sanders) in those head-to-head polls, indicating a Bernie or Bust effect. I see the cartoon as her telling those people to accept that Bernie lost** and to start supporting Hillary in preparation for the general.

*Most independents are independents in name only. They're actual partisans by a different name (http://cookpolitical.com/story/6608) and repeatedly vote for the same party in every election.

**He isn't mathematically eliminated yet, but I stated back in February (http://fqa.digibase.ca/index.php?topic=7076.msg291498#msg291498) that the polls for the Super Tuesday indicated that Clinton would win the nomination there. The polls showed that Hillary would go up by about 150 delegates, which would be very difficult to overcome with the proportional allocation of delegates--Clinton could not overcome Obama's 150 delegate lead in 2008. Those Super Tuesday polls underestimated Hillary's win because they underestimated black turnout in the South. As such, Clinton went up by a touch over 200. Sure enough, Clinton's lead has never fallen below the 200 delegate lead she got from Super Tuesday, and at this point it's too little too late as Bernie would have to win the remaining contests by these margins (http://fqa.digibase.ca/index.php?topic=7076.msg295292#msg295292) (which he hasn't done in any of those states), and then win 73% of the popular vote in California. Additionally, while I say he lost, those people who live in states that have yet to vote have every right to vote for him. They should vote for him, do their best to help him win, but accept Hillary if Bernie doesn't win.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Skybison on May 30, 2016, 03:48:30 am
I think it's about some quotes that were made by pro-hillary feminists that young women are pro sanders because they just want to meet boys.

"They’re going to get more activist as they grow older. And when you’re younger, you think: ‘Where are the boys? The boys are with Bernie.’" - Gloria Steinem
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: The_Queen on May 30, 2016, 04:05:28 am
I think it's about some quotes that were made by pro-hillary feminists that young women are pro sanders because they just want to meet boys.

"They’re going to get more activist as they grow older. And when you’re younger, you think: ‘Where are the boys? The boys are with Bernie.’" - Gloria Steinem

Decided to look into it. Simply looking at the jpg website, (http://api.theweek.com/sites/default/files/styles/large/public/2.20160211edhoc-a.jpg?itok=XCpw2nmJ) you appear right. Specifically the 20160211 appears to be the date, February 11, 2016, which was right around the time Steinem put her foot in her mouth.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on May 30, 2016, 06:25:14 pm
WAit what? That comic was PRO-Hillary? It certainly did a bad job at that.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on May 30, 2016, 07:23:23 pm
Because he caused so much controversy the last time, here's another Horsey

(http://humorinamerica.files.wordpress.com/2015/09/new1.jpg)

Edit: and if you can get past the paywall here is what the author said about the Hillary Cartoon: http://www.latimes.com/opinion/topoftheticket/la-na-tt-hillary-losing-young-women-20160210-story.html (http://www.latimes.com/opinion/topoftheticket/la-na-tt-hillary-losing-young-women-20160210-story.html)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on May 30, 2016, 07:31:11 pm
Because he caused so much controversy the last time, here's another Horsey

(click to show/hide)

Edit: and if you can get past the paywall here is what the author said about the Hillary Cartoon: http://www.latimes.com/opinion/topoftheticket/la-na-tt-hillary-losing-young-women-20160210-story.html (http://www.latimes.com/opinion/topoftheticket/la-na-tt-hillary-losing-young-women-20160210-story.html)

Fixed that for you (and spoilered the image for size).
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on May 30, 2016, 08:01:17 pm
Thanks Jeb's head is huge.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on June 06, 2016, 01:54:02 am
(http://images.glaciermedia.ca/polopoly_fs/1.2194443.1457571819!/fileImage/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_804/editorial-cartoon.jpg)

EDIT:

(http://images.glaciermedia.ca/polopoly_fs/1.2271762.1465248968!/fileImage/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_804/edit-cartoon.jpg)

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Ultimate Paragon on June 10, 2016, 09:14:49 pm
(http://www.cartoonistgroup.com/properties/anderson/art_images/cg5743cbd18781e.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on June 11, 2016, 02:46:56 am
It's kinda ridiculous empty homes outnumber the homeless. I mean we wouldn't have to power them or anything, just a shelter would probably drastically reduce mortality of the homeless.
The current housing system is ridiculous.

The thing that really drives it here is that Canada has no restrictions on foreigners owning land, and what often happens is that property in various cities--especially Vancouver--gets advertised and often sold in China before it gets advertised domestically. Then the lots and houses stand empty, property values skyrocket*, and governments do fuck all about it because they're raking in tax money.

*And this of course affects property taxes, so sometimes people end up being literally unable to afford to live in the house where they've lived their entire lives, simply because they can't pay the property taxes.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on June 29, 2016, 04:38:47 pm
(http://images.glaciermedia.ca/polopoly_fs/1.2284729.1466615803!/fileImage/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_804/illustration-geoff-olson.jpg)

(http://images.glaciermedia.ca/polopoly_fs/1.2288237.1467048710!/fileImage/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_804/eu.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: pyro on June 30, 2016, 12:48:42 am
The Twitter logo at the bottom is highly apropos.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Skybison on June 30, 2016, 01:55:54 am
(http://i.imgur.com/48d3F8Ll.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/Tmi2dcR.jpg)

(http://files.shandymedia.com/images/body/hollyscoop/15wndhl.png)

(http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/139/351/d5b.jpg)

"When I look at myself in the first grade and I look at myself now, I'm basically the same.  The temperament is not that different" - Donald Trump
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: pyro on June 30, 2016, 10:01:05 am

"When I look at myself in the first grade and I look at myself now, I'm basically the same.  The temperament is not that different" - Donald Trump

Citation needed.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: ironbite on June 30, 2016, 10:25:10 am
Citation that he said that or he was in first grade?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RavynousHunter on June 30, 2016, 10:26:58 am
Citation that he said that or he was in first grade?

Yes.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: ironbite on June 30, 2016, 10:28:01 am
Ok

Source: http://theweek.com/speedreads/575962/donald-trump-tells-biographer-hes-same-now-first-grade

Quote
Donald Trump's temper-tantrum tactics have been explained by the man himself. The frontrunner for the Republican presidential nomination admitted to his biographer that, "When I look at myself in the first grade and I look at myself now, I’m basically the same. The temperament is not that different."

Ironbite-happy?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Skybison on June 30, 2016, 11:50:21 am

"When I look at myself in the first grade and I look at myself now, I'm basically the same.  The temperament is not that different" - Donald Trump

Citation needed.

#Invalid YouTube Link#
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: SCarpelan on June 30, 2016, 12:11:31 pm

"When I look at myself in the first grade and I look at myself now, I'm basically the same.  The temperament is not that different" - Donald Trump

Citation needed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvzoaUmyUFg

Remove the 's' from 'https' in youtube URLs to make them work with the forum code.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on July 13, 2016, 04:06:48 pm
(http://images.glaciermedia.ca/polopoly_fs/1.2300188.1468358090!/fileImage/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_804/cartoon.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on July 22, 2016, 03:43:29 pm
(http://images.glaciermedia.ca/polopoly_fs/1.2305105.1468946599!/fileImage/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_804/editorial-cartoon-july-17-2016.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on July 30, 2016, 06:04:46 am
(http://img.huffingtonpost.com/asset/scalefit_630_noupscale/579b99e41200007404a54383.jpeg)

Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RavynousHunter on July 30, 2016, 09:42:47 am
My my, that's actually quite cleverly done.  Kudos to whomever made that.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: pyro on August 01, 2016, 12:05:15 am
Is that a parody, or have you gone off the deep end?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: The_Queen on August 01, 2016, 12:18:36 am
(https://67.media.tumblr.com/5939b931cbb1d383a3108b44fef59e99/tumblr_ob7g26wzcI1qzeo2zo1_500.jpg)

Quote from: Jay-z
Rosa Parks sat so Martin Luther could walk
Martin Luther walked so Barack Obama could run
Barack Obama ran so all the children could fly
So I'mma spread my wings, you can meet me in the sky

Obama's election had a huge effect on the black community, and what it means to be African-American in this country. It meant that despite the racial hardships exclusive to them, if they worked hard and did everything right, then they could be president. True, they'd have to work harder and get luckier to make it all happen, but there was a path to to the highest office in the land, and if Obama could do it, so could any other young and bright young black child. As one person put it, "Obama's election means that I can finally look my son in the eyes, tell him that you can be anything you want to be, and mean it."

Whatever you think of Hillary, representation is important and it conveys an equality of opportunity within our society for her to win. That is why  every democratic female senator (including Warren) signed a letter urging her to run (http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/188687-report-democratic-women-senators-sign-letter-urging-hillary-clinton-to-run) in the 2016 election, despite her initial unease about doing so. (http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2014/05/hillary-clinton-media-105901?o=0) That is not to say vote for her because of vagina, but simply that representation matters, and that last Tuesday was a historic moment for women in this country.

I know you don't like her, but that comic is plain wrong as it lampoons the very real effect that Obama's presidency had for African Americans and that a potential Clinton presidency would have women in this country.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on August 01, 2016, 05:40:27 am
What sort of repercussions are you talking about?  Besides which weren't you seeking a response from your 'shitpost' anyway?

Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: SCarpelan on August 01, 2016, 07:04:05 am
I know you don't like her, but that comic is plain wrong as it lampoons the very real effect that Obama's presidency had for African Americans and that a potential Clinton presidency would have women in this country.

It does lampoon the effect but I don't get the feeling that it demeans it in any way. It's possible to appreciate something and come up with an amusing twist for it for the lulz.

The twist does make it a non-political cartoon, though, unless you take the twist seriously in which case it goes to the other thread. The original one without the last panel is the one that belongs to this thread.

Edit: according to Tineye the image is from the comments in http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/sites/lizard-people-of-new-york so the main target of lampooning is the lizard people conspiracy.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: The_Queen on August 01, 2016, 09:48:11 am
The twist does make it a non-political cartoon, though, unless you take the twist seriously in which case it goes to the other thread.

That is my thought process on it. The twist of the last image satired the original message, meaning it shouldn't be in the best of political cartoons. Or, if it was in reference to the lizard-people meme, then it wasn't political, and shouldn't be in a best of political cartoons thread.

So Dakota Bob can shitpost without repercussion in GTPSI but I can't do the same here?

I have no idea what you're talking about, so yes. Yes he can.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Dakota Bob on August 01, 2016, 03:40:49 pm
So Dakota Bob can shitpost without repercussion in GTPSI but I can't do the same here?

Just because a shitpost is a shitpost doesn't mean it can't be a great post. I'm making shitposting great again.

Also, I'm sure one can like Hillary and still laugh at a lizard cartoon. Besides, if anybody is a lizard, it's Tim Kaine.

Perhaps it would be best to form a shitpost megathread to contain it all to one place
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: chad sexington on August 02, 2016, 12:42:51 am
Booo!  I read this thread for cartoons, not arguments!

This one cracks me up for some reason:
(http://i.imgur.com/eJFwKis.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on August 02, 2016, 09:09:47 am
...The look on Putin's face. "HI JESUS, I LOVE YOU! I came here on my magical flying syringe to give you a big big hug!"
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Zygarde on August 02, 2016, 11:27:53 am
...am I high again? But anyway is that supposed to be about Putin wanting to find a vaccine for the Zika virus?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on August 02, 2016, 11:35:37 am
...It's about the Olympics. It was discovered (proven with evidence) that the Russian sports teams had not only been using doping but that it had been organized and sanctioned by the government. Surprisingly this time the Anti-doping organizations did something and several of the Russian athletes were banned from competing AND the country was banned from entering certain sports even if they did find a clean athlete.

On one hand this should have happened ages ago and to several countries (Finland should have been banned from entering international competitions ten years ago when we had our scandal.) but at least it's a move towards cleaning up the Olympics.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Id82 on August 02, 2016, 11:36:36 am
No, it has to do with the Russian doping scandal and how they might be banned from the Olympics.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on August 04, 2016, 06:20:48 am
(http://images.glaciermedia.ca/polopoly_fs/1.2316063.1470263656!/fileImage/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_804/illustration-geoff-olson.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: SCarpelan on August 04, 2016, 09:32:35 am
Wow. (https://imgur.com/gallery/xDHOS) Originally not political but with a character switch they carry a political message and Watterson becomes a prophet.

(https://i.imgur.com/6uzA34W.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/kylfpEp.jpg)

Edit: And there are more of these (http://www.filmsforaction.org/articles/donald-and-hobbes-is-genius/). Original source is reddit (https://www.reddit.com/r/DonaldandHobbes/).

(http://i.imgur.com/wNgDS2A.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RavynousHunter on August 05, 2016, 12:33:05 am
When are they not?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Skybison on August 05, 2016, 12:57:27 am
@Scarpelan

I love those too, here's some more

(http://i.imgur.com/Czis0hp.gif)

(http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/139/352/ced.png)

(https://dingbatdonald.com/sites/default/files/inline-images/Greatness.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on August 07, 2016, 03:30:40 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/Bt6RqjQ.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Skybison on August 13, 2016, 11:25:32 am
Sort of a cartoon, Billy West has been reading Donald Trump quotes in his Zapp Brannigan voice

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58yVQjILers
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cloud3514 on August 13, 2016, 02:46:08 pm
It's amazing how in character for Zapp Brannigan those lines are.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: TheL on August 15, 2016, 11:21:28 am
Sort of a cartoon, Billy West has been reading Donald Trump quotes in his Zapp Brannigan voice

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58yVQjILers

Billy West is a national treasure. <3
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on August 23, 2016, 10:29:14 am
(https://static.thenib.com/usq/65ad5c77-1f2b-4246-8858-dd8687277682/when-you-re-a-cannibal-but-also-a-frat-boy-1-5d1161.png)
(https://static.thenib.com/usq/96bf7985-d5bd-401c-a338-971cebb9d0d5/when-you-re-a-cannibal-but-also-a-frat-boy-2-97f278.png)
(https://static.thenib.com/usq/679c8c71-9d1e-458a-b792-f1cb7d395c25/when-you-re-a-cannibal-but-also-a-frat-boy-3-621ead.png)
(https://static.thenib.com/usq/0fea3e10-c01b-4563-824c-7ddc97f29063/when-you-re-a-cannibal-but-also-a-frat-boy-4-abef3b.png)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on August 28, 2016, 11:59:01 pm
In this category because it's well drawn and the message is conveyed clearly. And no Ben Garrison, clearly doesn't have a weird homosexual crush on Donald TrumP:

(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-7kHdMj5BVmE/Vtsy9Uuq2LI/AAAAAAAABw0/gXYFs_8y1JM/s1600/gop_debate_cartoon_ben_garrison.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on September 22, 2016, 03:34:50 pm
Funny how a comic from 1881 is still relevant in USA:
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on October 01, 2016, 03:51:14 pm
(http://images.glaciermedia.ca/polopoly_fs/1.2351350.1474912942!/fileImage/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_804/illustration-geoff-olson-sept-29-2016.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on October 06, 2016, 01:09:09 am
Double post... and this isn't even really political...

(http://images.glaciermedia.ca/polopoly_fs/1.2358828.1475692312!/fileImage/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_804/illustration-geoff-olson-oct-6-2016.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RavynousHunter on October 06, 2016, 07:17:36 am
I dunno, I think it kinda is, if you think about it.  Institutional racism is as much a political problem as it is a societal one.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: pyro on October 06, 2016, 02:17:26 pm
As much as I agree with the message, why do so many political cartoons suck at being cartoons? You're in a visual medium! Stop using so much text!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on October 07, 2016, 02:09:33 am
Seen on another forum in response to that cartoon:

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This is classic. How do the crime statistics by race compare to the incarceration statistics? How many people that are incarcerated here would be killed for the same crime in a different country? How much of these stats are for major vs. minor offenses and how long are these sentences? 90 days hard time is a lot different than 20 to life, but all that detail gets conflated in a big scary number.

Half -truths like this cartoon lack key context that leave a lot of room for people to draw their own half-baked conclusions. That's probably why they're employed as political propaganda.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on October 22, 2016, 05:06:09 am
(https://scontent-arn2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/s480x480/14695421_1143033992443477_5779221867160053772_n.jpg?oh=62490287bf1f249209f208ee3a013bc3&oe=5893AF55)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on October 23, 2016, 07:16:42 pm
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/oct/20/when-i-hear-the-words-smashed-avocado-i-reach-for-my-adler-110 (https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/oct/20/when-i-hear-the-words-smashed-avocado-i-reach-for-my-adler-110)

First Dog on the Moon. Now if you just stopped with the Smashed Avo on toast you could afford a house you lazy buggers.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RavynousHunter on October 23, 2016, 07:33:56 pm
Smashed avocado?

Did you mean guacamole?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on October 23, 2016, 09:11:24 pm
No smashed Avocado on toast. It's not guacamole
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RavynousHunter on October 23, 2016, 10:13:12 pm
What's the point of smashing avocado if you don't either put it on nachos or turn it into guacamole?  That's...just a waste.  Good for you, but a waste.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on October 23, 2016, 10:15:52 pm
you mix it with lemon juice, salt and pepper (and perhaps some feta or a poached egg) put it on toast and have the breakfast which bankrupts millenials.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: TheL on October 29, 2016, 10:26:25 pm
What's the point of smashing avocado if you don't either put it on nachos or turn it into guacamole?  That's...just a waste.  Good for you, but a waste.

I prefer sliced avocados, myself.  (Also, now this (http://media.oglaf.com/comic/incubus.jpg) is stuck in my head.)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on October 30, 2016, 12:10:49 am
I wish I could have avocado, but I'm very sensitive to it now (not allergic; I don't need epinephrine) and every time I eat it, even a small piece, I end up hacking up mucous for hours afterward. I used to love it, especially in California rolls or sliced in a sandwich with cream cheese. (Or as guacamole for dipping tortilla chips.)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on October 30, 2016, 05:30:59 am
(http://images.glaciermedia.ca/polopoly_fs/1.2374147.1477509207!/fileImage/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_804/illustration-geoff-olson-oct-26-2016.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: SCarpelan on October 30, 2016, 05:59:59 am
Hugleikur Dagsson's opinion about the results of the recent parliamentary elections in Iceland.

(https://scontent-frt3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14906834_10154693667339826_1120712039967829167_n.jpg?oh=b68567818bc77e9b7556c6dfbc061d63&oe=5891172A)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: chad sexington on October 30, 2016, 06:30:33 am
That may be the ultimate political cartoon.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: SCarpelan on November 09, 2016, 08:18:29 am
Scandinavia And the World:

(https://scontent-arn2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14991860_1138545989516248_7239318539739251217_n.jpg?oh=f8ac9a886a0749c56fdd6e421157e804&oe=58D00693)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: SCarpelan on November 11, 2016, 11:51:40 am
More Hugleikur Dagsson.

(https://scontent-arn2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/t31.0-8/s960x960/15002385_10154735831484826_7152004898908927803_o.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Id82 on November 11, 2016, 01:37:18 pm
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Tolpuddle Martyr on November 11, 2016, 06:22:04 pm
I remember this from before the election.

(http://adminwww.alternet.org/files/styles/large/public/jen_sorensen_on_the_democratic_smackdown.png)

It actually turned out worse.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cloud3514 on November 12, 2016, 02:37:56 am
It's hard to say. Cruz is arguably just as dangerous as Trump. The difference is that the whole world except his supporters know that Trump is a buffoon. Cruz is dangerous and, like Nixon, cunning.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RavynousHunter on November 12, 2016, 10:09:37 am
Cruz is like Pence: dangerous, not because he's a moron, but because he's got principles.  That's the one silver lining with Trump: Trump will do whatever benefits Trump most.  His principles begin and end with himself.  Cruz and Pence are arguably worse, because they see beyond themselves.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Sigmaleph on November 12, 2016, 11:17:03 am
Cruz and Pence are less likely to cause nuclear wars or the collapse of the democratic process though

(I don't think Trump is likely to, exactly. But if you asked me which candidate had the greater probability, of every one that run in this election...)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: The_Queen on November 12, 2016, 03:22:53 pm
It's hard to say. Cruz is arguably just as dangerous as Trump. The difference is that the whole world except his supporters know that Trump is a buffoon. Cruz is dangerous and, like Nixon, cunning.

Eh, I see pluses and minuses to both.

Good thing about Trump: He really has no idea what he's doing which limits what he can get done, he's less ideological than Cruz, he's more likely to be caught doing something warranting impeachment (whether the House goes along is anybody's guess).

Good things about Cruz: he's not an overt racist pandering to authoritarian types, he alienated a lot of his congressional allies, I trust him to peacefully hand over the reigns of government after 4 years.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on November 12, 2016, 05:38:21 pm
Some of the Trump-fans are claiming that Trump is just doing what he always does in business life. Attach his name into something and then let people who actually know how to run things handle the business while Trump does PR and takes the credit.

Granted that, that is basically what investors do (though they also invest money into the project to make it possible for it to grow. And the ones like Trump use money from other people to do that.)

The problem with this is that although delegating some things is an important quality in a leader the president is supposed to make some decisions by himself. If Trump is really just making himself the figurehead then he is basically abandoning his duty. The next 4 years could be the Pence presidency. Also it's going to make things really unpredictable.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Tolpuddle Martyr on November 12, 2016, 06:17:06 pm
It could be argued that Bush was similar in letting Dick Cheney actually run things most of the time.

Though that isn't exactly an argument that bodes well given what happened then.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: ironbite on November 13, 2016, 03:17:08 pm
The difference is that Bush was willing to take the blame when things went wrong.  Trump is in no way prepared to take the blame for any screw ups from one of his yes men.  The second Pence does something that blows up in Trump's face, he fires him.  Or tries to anyway.

Ironbite-Trump does not suffer failure that gets attached to him, he looks for a way to spread that shit.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: chad sexington on November 13, 2016, 07:49:23 pm
The second Pence does something that blows up in Trump's face, he fires him.  Or tries to anyway.

We can but hope.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on November 13, 2016, 09:54:56 pm
The second Pence does something that blows up in Trump's face, he fires him.  Or tries to anyway.

We can but hope.

Well, a) he can't (think of the situation in which the election goes to Congress and the House and Senate elect ideologically opposed people), and b) then Trump would get free rein to pick whoever he wanted as VP (Manafort tricked him into picking Pence since he knew Christie, whom Trump wanted, had serious ethics issues).

EDIT:

(http://images.glaciermedia.ca/polopoly_fs/1.2721090.1479149790!/fileImage/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_804/illustration-geoff-oison-nov-14-2016.jpg)

EDIT:

(http://images.glaciermedia.ca/polopoly_fs/1.3137396.1479929139!/fileImage/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_804/geoff-olson-nov-24-2016.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Id82 on November 30, 2016, 10:55:49 am
(https://scontent-dft4-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/15220201_1203349286369432_8836326824689929391_n.jpg?oh=551a3a6c0bb7aa2a4e0fd706eaa13adc&oe=58C366ED)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: chad sexington on December 02, 2016, 12:20:46 am
Posting this in Best rather than Worst, because of the schadenfreude.  Garrison is desperately trying to convince himself that Trump hasn't sold out.

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Unfortunately Trump appointed Mnuchin, an ex-Goldman Sachs executive, as Secretary of Treasury. More ominously, Mnuchin once partnered with Soros. I would rather have seen Ron Paul become Treasury Secretary, but perhaps Trump wants a few insiders in his cabinet in order to better deal with the powers that be. Trump said Mnuchin made some ‘amazing deals.’ Fine—as long as he’s willing to deal We The People in this time.

Maybe Trump wants such insiders because they know where the bodies are buried. That way he can better expose them. Can Mnuchin help bring back Glass Steagall and end the Big Club’s stranglehold on us? It remains to be seen, but if Trump continues to dine with Romney and others from the Big Club—and then does does their bidding, his feet will need to be held to the fire. Right now we can only hope that he is playing them off against one another.

And the accompanying cartoon:
(http://i.imgur.com/hf2tEoE.jpg)

Oh, and he's now a big fan of Farage, too.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lana Reverse on December 02, 2016, 12:43:01 am
Posting this in Best rather than Worst, because of the schadenfreude.  Garrison is desperately trying to convince himself that Trump hasn't sold out.

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Unfortunately Trump appointed Mnuchin, an ex-Goldman Sachs executive, as Secretary of Treasury. More ominously, Mnuchin once partnered with Soros. I would rather have seen Ron Paul become Treasury Secretary, but perhaps Trump wants a few insiders in his cabinet in order to better deal with the powers that be. Trump said Mnuchin made some ‘amazing deals.’ Fine—as long as he’s willing to deal We The People in this time.

Maybe Trump wants such insiders because they know where the bodies are buried. That way he can better expose them. Can Mnuchin help bring back Glass Steagall and end the Big Club’s stranglehold on us? It remains to be seen, but if Trump continues to dine with Romney and others from the Big Club—and then does does their bidding, his feet will need to be held to the fire. Right now we can only hope that he is playing them off against one another.

And the accompanying cartoon:
(http://i.imgur.com/hf2tEoE.jpg)

Oh, and he's now a big fan of Farage, too.

>Implying Trump had any integrity in the first place

Garrison may not be a white supremacist, but he's still kind of a wingnut.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Skybison on December 02, 2016, 02:48:07 am
Donald Trump and Nigel Farage's policies are going to push everyone but themselves off a cliff to their deaths.  A Good Cartoon.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on December 02, 2016, 02:57:17 am
Doesn't Trump want Farage as the UK's ambassador to the US? I hope May sends a Scottish liberal woman instead.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Id82 on December 09, 2016, 03:13:49 pm
(https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/15284016_10154077135376179_6785603932581402901_n.jpg?oh=4b80313eed1b0e8a365e89877aadcbd8&oe=58BE3250)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on December 10, 2016, 09:27:04 am
(https://scontent-ams3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/s480x480/15492032_1197488606998015_5616610814238713993_n.jpg?oh=790e04611f522be2c93305c6556269a0&oe=58F4C3CC)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: TheContrarian on December 16, 2016, 02:00:20 pm
(http://www.riskokare.com/images/cache/a0d1rZv_460s.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Eiki-mun on December 16, 2016, 03:10:27 pm
Your hero Winston Churchill never took responsibility for his war crimes in India. Seems a mite hypocritical for you to say someone far less guilty of criminal activity should do so.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: TheContrarian on December 16, 2016, 03:44:13 pm
Your hero Winston Churchill never took responsibility for his war crimes in India. Seems a mite hypocritical for you to say someone far less guilty of criminal activity should do so.

Nice attempt at deflection.

But back to the subject at hand.

Wikileaks exposes one of the major parties in an election cycle in a major western democracy essentially curating the election coverage of a number of the biggest mainstream press outlets in the country.  It is alleged that the leak of this information comes from Russian sources.

Do you:
a) welcome the information as it exposes a genuine threat to the free press.

or

b) shriek about Russian intrusion and go try to bury any outlet that mentions it (you know, all those "war on fake news" articles, simultaneously bigging up the "independent" mainstream media...).

I'm only really seeing (b) from the left at the moment.  I don't like to overuse references to Orwell, but we're getting there at this point.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Eiki-mun on December 16, 2016, 05:12:47 pm
It was less deflection and more just me getting a dig in at the guy plastered all over your profile. I really don't care what Hillary does. I didn't vote for her, and I don't support her.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Tolpuddle Martyr on December 16, 2016, 09:52:07 pm
Your hero Winston Churchill never took responsibility for his war crimes in India. Seems a mite hypocritical for you to say someone far less guilty of criminal activity should do so.

Nice attempt at deflection.

But back to the subject at hand.

Wikileaks exposes one of the major parties in an election cycle in a major western democracy essentially curating the election coverage of a number of the biggest mainstream press outlets in the country.  It is alleged that the leak of this information comes from Russian sources.

Do you:
a) welcome the information as it exposes a genuine threat to the free press.

or

b) shriek about Russian intrusion and go try to bury any outlet that mentions it (you know, all those "war on fake news" articles, simultaneously bigging up the "independent" mainstream media...).

I'm only really seeing (b) from the left at the moment.  I don't like to overuse references to Orwell, but we're getting there at this point.
Terrible attempt at strawmaning.

But back to the subject at hand.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on January 06, 2017, 10:04:11 am
(https://scontent-arn2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/p480x480/15873420_262602347492906_3365142392955842412_n.jpg?oh=70399c828da6774f5d820159e0334dc1&oe=591B57DA)

Yeah, this is one of the things that is wrong with the world currently. You can have a disagreement about something, it's understandable that some people have a differing opinion, but when someone is wrong saying that they have a RIGHT to be wrong and that their ignorance is equally valuable you have gone too far.

Even in that example I can perfectly understand WHY the two people think that they know what the number is but rather than saying "both are right" you should admit that you need more information to say which answer is correct (or if the correct answer is something completely different.)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on January 06, 2017, 01:17:43 pm
(http://www.azquotes.com/picture-quotes/quote-everyone-is-entitled-to-his-own-opinion-but-not-his-own-facts-daniel-patrick-moynihan-20-81-99.jpg)

(Sociologist and Democratic Senator from New York)

(http://www.azquotes.com/picture-quotes/quote-great-daniel-patrick-moynihan-said-that-everyone-s-entitled-to-their-own-opinions-but-steve-schmidt-142-22-66.jpg)

(Republican strategist)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on January 07, 2017, 07:16:24 am
(https://scontent-ams3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/s480x480/15941034_1221131601300382_2503873654150079437_n.jpg?oh=2a92eb6847447ef11d994da39b9a8766&oe=59177624)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on January 12, 2017, 07:57:12 pm
(http://i1.wp.com/leftycartoons.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/23/2017/01/trans-special-treatment2.png)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on January 14, 2017, 02:17:34 pm
(https://scontent-fra3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/s480x480/15977572_1227994567280752_4007869309039689604_n.jpg?oh=049a7f999593f541ae08f49567498805&oe=591E171F)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Tolpuddle Martyr on January 22, 2017, 10:47:20 pm
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on January 25, 2017, 04:01:40 am
First dog on the moon - No to alternative Cake - https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/jan/23/alternative-facts-yes-alternative-cakes-no-the-exciting-adventures-of-trumps-inauguration-cake (https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/jan/23/alternative-facts-yes-alternative-cakes-no-the-exciting-adventures-of-trumps-inauguration-cake)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Svata on January 26, 2017, 09:45:59 am
Not a cartoon, but not sure where else to post. https://mobile.twitter.com/machineiv/status/824627216185122818?p=v the whole thread is beautiful.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on January 28, 2017, 05:12:19 pm
Hidden because large.

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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on January 31, 2017, 10:13:36 am
(https://scontent-ams3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/p480x480/16406646_1245660508847491_2765025099808770675_n.jpg?oh=5da11c30ad04388c0bcf73bf8045f869&oe=590EFEF1)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lana Reverse on January 31, 2017, 01:48:28 pm
(https://scontent-ams3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/p480x480/16406646_1245660508847491_2765025099808770675_n.jpg?oh=5da11c30ad04388c0bcf73bf8045f869&oe=590EFEF1)

I like it. Simple, effective, and doesn't need labels.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on February 16, 2017, 02:31:50 am
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C4uUqfeVUAA0FJY.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on February 16, 2017, 03:35:45 am
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Spoilered because I got carried away so I don't swamp the whole page
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on February 16, 2017, 08:41:52 pm
(http://grondamorin.files.wordpress.com/2017/02/cartoon-la-dhorsey-1485992050-snap-photo.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on February 19, 2017, 07:10:01 pm
OK Ben Garrison is pretty whacky and I don't agree with his politics but fuck I love his cartoons:

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Spoilered because it turned out to be quite big.

I'm beginning to think I might need rehab for how much I love his cartoons. I kind of want it to come out that Trump directly took money from the Russians just to see how Garrison would do it in a cartoon. He's like a slightly more coherent and sane Dees.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: chad sexington on February 19, 2017, 08:02:05 pm
He'd probably either ignore it completely, or claim it's some kind of smear.

Either way, we'd get some great cartoons out of it!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Skybison on March 02, 2017, 01:13:53 am
(https://image.cagle.com/191672/373/191672.png)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on March 02, 2017, 02:05:23 am
As funny as I find those jokes, there's a major problem with them: many of the people harping on about the Trump-Putin lovefest also harp on about how Trump's an unstable lunatic.

So what do you think someone that unstable might do to show that he is not, in fact, Putin's bitch?

"Launch the nukes! Send in the troops! This war will be tremendous! We'll be winning with this war!"

And then, oh fuck, it's WWIII.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on March 02, 2017, 02:31:23 am
It's ok he knows 'nuclear holocaust is like no other'
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: pyro on March 02, 2017, 07:52:09 pm
What happened to Bart's right arm?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Id82 on March 02, 2017, 09:06:25 pm
Bad drawing.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: chad sexington on March 02, 2017, 11:09:14 pm
Both arms, actually!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Tolpuddle Martyr on March 05, 2017, 10:39:13 pm
(http://www.alternet.org/sites/default/files/trumpvoters600.png)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Skybison on March 05, 2017, 11:36:35 pm
On the other hand just calling people racists to their face mostly just makes them double down and causes a backlash effect, no matter how accurate it is.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on March 05, 2017, 11:43:28 pm
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: The_Queen on March 07, 2017, 02:11:28 am
(http://www.alternet.org/sites/default/files/trumpvoters600.png)

Lana, read this. Do this. Live this.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: The_Queen on March 07, 2017, 02:19:59 am
Hidden for size.

(https://i2.wp.com/leftycartoons.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/23/2017/03/two-party-system-1500.png)

No the GOP, especially as it is under Trump, will ignore the economic issues and make an appeal to the leftists' whiteness as a means to peel away their votes. Whether I call it "white chauvinism" or "brocialism," the overall point is that this bloc of left voters is much closer to the GOP than they like to think.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Tolpuddle Martyr on March 07, 2017, 04:10:55 am

No the GOP, especially as it is under Trump, will ignore the economic issues and make an appeal to the leftists' whiteness as a means to peel away their votes. Whether I call it "white chauvinism" or "brocialism," the overall point is that this bloc of left voters is much closer to the GOP than they like to think.

So basically, if it was a white voter they'd say. "I feel ya buddy, those goddamn foreigners takin our jerbs, and them 'migrants too. Also China, and the EU with their socialist regulations, heaven help us".

The yelling would be for anybody else.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on March 07, 2017, 04:18:19 am

No the GOP, especially as it is under Trump, will ignore the economic issues and make an appeal to the leftists' whiteness as a means to peel away their votes. Whether I call it "white chauvinism" or "brocialism," the overall point is that this bloc of left voters is much closer to the GOP than they like to think.

So basically, if it was a white voter they'd say. "I feel ya buddy, those goddamn foreigners takin our jerbs, and them 'migrants too. Also China, and the EU with their socialist regulations, heaven help us".

The yelling would be for anybody else.

Nah. They would say "Haven't you noticed how WHITE all those Democrats are? They are the party thatt founded the KKK after all. If you really want to support minorities you should  vote for use, after all we have [insert random non-white GOP member]"
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Random Gal on March 10, 2017, 04:42:24 pm
The_Queen: Yeah, two-party systems really do suck. :(
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cloud3514 on March 18, 2017, 02:12:26 pm
Of course, it doesn't help that, were the two party system to change, it would be the Libertarian party that gained power.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Skybison on March 19, 2017, 12:30:14 am
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C52PmAAUwAEy2Nu.jpg)

I love Superman.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on March 19, 2017, 07:49:39 am
(https://i.redditmedia.com/wzkylEO9_3T1HNvy2jByAoC_Wr22KOrzYgP2UMwccK4.png?w=726&s=e95a25d7bef505d2bb2bf504d320f494)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Sigmaleph on March 19, 2017, 10:53:10 am
I know the point they're trying to make but uh. That's the anarcho-capitalist flag.

why is the ancap saying they love the government

Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on March 19, 2017, 11:16:31 am
Because by removing the government's ability to tax people is what they mainly strive for? Even if it would be better if the stick figure said "I sure love it now that the government has been replaced by rule of corporations."
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: SCarpelan on March 19, 2017, 11:30:23 am
Oh... So he's saying "I love my government because it's almost nonexistent."
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: chad sexington on March 19, 2017, 08:47:37 pm
He's not paying any taxes, but he's also only getting 10% of his former wages.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on March 19, 2017, 08:48:45 pm
He's not paying any taxes, but he's also only getting 10% of his former wages.

But the damn gubmint ain't stealin' any of it!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Id82 on March 20, 2017, 03:52:52 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/ij90DQs.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on March 29, 2017, 07:12:46 pm
Latest Garrison Cartoon, his blog is hilarious too:

(http://grrrgraphics.com/uploads/7/4/7/3/74734153/deep-state-swamp-ben-garrison_orig.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Skybison on March 29, 2017, 07:18:48 pm
Alan Moore's Swamp Thing will destroy Trump.  A Good Cartoon.

(http://www.michaelpramirez.com/uploads/3/4/9/8/34985326/sub-mrz032517-color_orig.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lana Reverse on March 29, 2017, 08:22:20 pm
Alan Moore's Swamp Thing will destroy Trump.  A Good Cartoon.

(http://www.michaelpramirez.com/uploads/3/4/9/8/34985326/sub-mrz032517-color_orig.jpg)

Is it just me, or does Obama's head look kinda phallic?

At least, I think that's supposed to be Obama. With how little he looks like a human being, he could be a conehead for all I know.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: SCarpelan on April 04, 2017, 02:39:10 am
Ha.

(context: The Finnish social services and health care reform (http://forums.fstdt.net/index.php?topic=7536.0), the Finnish abbreviation of which is Sote. The people in the cartoon are the leaders of the three government parties.)

(https://scontent-arn2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/17799369_10154830413929930_5612681245516766244_n.jpg?oh=9d8cdd342f89c8d25f191653cf571a74&oe=5965DE11)

"It lives! We had to do it in a hurry but we got it done!"

"Aivot" = brain.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on April 04, 2017, 03:24:35 am
(https://i1.wp.com/leftycartoons.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/23/2017/03/free-speech-campus.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Id82 on April 18, 2017, 02:21:43 pm
(http://images.dailykos.com/images/387913/story_image/04-08-Ax-EditToon-Trump-And-Kushner-1024x678.jpg?1491883910)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on April 18, 2017, 02:37:47 pm
Hidden because big.

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on April 21, 2017, 10:15:22 am
http://imgur.com/gallery/gux5W
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Id82 on April 21, 2017, 10:40:27 am
Press Snekretary is like one of my new favorite things on the internet now.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on April 27, 2017, 01:58:18 am
(http://i.imgur.com/ibq6RNO.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on April 27, 2017, 02:42:07 am
Time for Garrison cartoon - interestingly this is the first time he has portrayed Trump looking at all weak. Bad signs:

(http://grrrgraphics.com/uploads/7/4/7/3/74734153/tug-of-war-ben-garrison_2_orig.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Tolpuddle Martyr on April 27, 2017, 03:30:09 am
Trump looks like he's thinking, "how the hell am I gonna get my 2:00am tweetstorm on with all this going on?"

Interestingly it does imagine that Saint Trump has absolutely no agency or opinions of his own.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Id82 on April 27, 2017, 10:31:08 am
The harsh reality of being a politician. Not getting anything you want and giving up your soul.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: chad sexington on April 28, 2017, 05:31:37 am
Time for Garrison cartoon - interestingly this is the first time he has portrayed Trump looking at all weak. Bad signs:

(http://grrrgraphics.com/uploads/7/4/7/3/74734153/tug-of-war-ben-garrison_2_orig.jpg)

Any idea what AB, CZ, and MP on the caps are referring to?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: SCarpelan on May 02, 2017, 06:28:45 am
Let's throw in a historical one for a change. This one was made after the treaty of Versailles: the world leaders are walking away satisfied after signing the treaty but a child representing the "1940 class" is crying in despair. Hauntingly prophetical.

(https://scontent-arn2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/18268109_1317771124983628_5233313653495102297_n.jpg?oh=e0d9e9978c9481782924edbdb5998711&oe=597C7875)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Id82 on May 04, 2017, 10:24:02 am
(https://i.imgur.com/9VYAb5b.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Radiation on May 14, 2017, 05:50:15 pm
Latest Garrison Cartoon, his blog is hilarious too:

(http://grrrgraphics.com/uploads/7/4/7/3/74734153/deep-state-swamp-ben-garrison_orig.jpg)

I think I am beginning to like Garrison's work, though I am not into conspiracy theories.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on May 14, 2017, 05:52:14 pm
Garrison's politics are only slightly less crazy than David Dees and he's turning into a furious hypocrite but like Dees the man can draw.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Radiation on May 14, 2017, 05:53:08 pm
Alan Moore's Swamp Thing will destroy Trump.  A Good Cartoon.


Is it just me, or does Obama's head look kinda phallic?

At least, I think that's supposed to be Obama. With how little he looks like a human being, he could be a conehead for all I know.

Now that I looked at it closely, yeah it does look phallic, not a very good cartoon by the way.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cloud3514 on May 14, 2017, 05:55:44 pm
Both Garrison and Dees are very amusingly insane. Im relieved that the only people that take them seriously are as equally insane.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Skybison on May 15, 2017, 02:36:56 am
I'm unrelieved because of how freaking many insane people are out there.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on May 16, 2017, 12:36:07 pm
(https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/18486382_1563190627026728_4620052035996209938_n.jpg?oh=ea8412a490d82ba627fcac701b3ac72b&oe=59C0BD64)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: The_Queen on May 16, 2017, 02:44:49 pm
(https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/18486382_1563190627026728_4620052035996209938_n.jpg?oh=ea8412a490d82ba627fcac701b3ac72b&oe=59C0BD64)

ugh, what?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: chad sexington on May 17, 2017, 12:10:39 am
Larryville Blue reminds me of a particularly terrible right-wing comic, but I can't remember the title.  And this is bugging me >:(

Anyway - for content, have a parody Garrison:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C_gNV-6UwAA2VJM.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on May 17, 2017, 01:35:46 am
Fuck Chad, that's beautiful
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on May 17, 2017, 06:09:36 am
(http://i.imgur.com/CJPLZ6n.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on May 17, 2017, 11:59:56 am
Rep. Al Green has just called for the impeachment of the President of the United States of America.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Skybison on May 17, 2017, 09:35:47 pm
Fingers crossed

Also a painting not a cartoon but still good

(http://wp.production.patheos.com/blogs/slacktivist/files/2017/05/Creation.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Art Vandelay on May 17, 2017, 09:57:15 pm
I've no idea what that's supposed to mean (aside from black tits are nice, of course).
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on May 26, 2017, 03:45:31 am
(https://i2.wp.com/www.leftycartoons.com/wp-content/uploads/sockpuppet.png)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on May 28, 2017, 01:38:10 am
(https://i.redditmedia.com/f1dslbsBpB2ulJq_FWoMr_iktER0WQPVC2kXpEIfxs4.png?w=512&s=4e8630b0546afebdd44ece94561d9bb7)

...The joke being that poor people starving because they can't afford food and shelter is acceptable by Anarcho capitalists because it does not violate NAP. And they will fight to death (or at least bitch on the internet) to defend the right to let people starve if the alternative is government assistance paid by taxes.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: The_Queen on May 28, 2017, 06:02:27 pm
(https://i2.wp.com/www.leftycartoons.com/wp-content/uploads/sockpuppet.png)

Yes, because both parties are the exact same (https://www.cbo.gov/publication/52752).
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on May 30, 2017, 01:34:31 pm
(large image)

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on June 02, 2017, 11:34:11 am
HURRR DURRR BOTH SIDES ARE JUST AS BAD:

https://thenib.com/radical-centrism-101 (Link because I still don't know how to refit images.)

No joke, in Finland there are Neo-Nazis on the street harassing people and some politicians still complain about the "other extreme." When asked to define what the "other extreme" is they usually come up with some sort of vague reference to people who want to hug everyone and don't want to hurt anyone.

...Because that is obviously just as bad as people who have repeatedly committed arson, physical assaults, harassment and killed at least one person.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Skybison on June 03, 2017, 02:38:08 am
(https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/d8737b1a2a65bb7c8e004b83e66785da794a84326d7dad74711ed7e3f4c6c34f.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on June 03, 2017, 03:38:00 am
To be followed up by his next book, The Art of the Covfefe.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lt. Fred on June 03, 2017, 07:41:12 am
(https://i.redditmedia.com/f1dslbsBpB2ulJq_FWoMr_iktER0WQPVC2kXpEIfxs4.png?w=512&s=4e8630b0546afebdd44ece94561d9bb7)


HOLY SHIT THIS IS THE BEST POINT ANYONE HAS EVER MADE. FOR SERIOUS.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lana Reverse on June 14, 2017, 02:56:13 pm
(https://www.srnnews.com/media/2017/06/1496777421860203xJ33iaHTla-700x514.jpg?44b0c1)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on June 25, 2017, 12:58:55 pm
(https://i0.wp.com/leftycartoons.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/23/2017/06/good-voter-1200.png?resize=675%2C959)

(https://i1.wp.com/leftycartoons.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/23/2017/06/medicaid-1000.png?resize=675%2C649)

EDIT:

https://thenib.com/strength-through-unity?t=recent
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: ironbite on June 28, 2017, 09:01:05 pm
God that's just it ain't it?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on July 07, 2017, 02:22:01 pm
(https://i1.wp.com/leftycartoons.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/23/2017/07/racism-how-is-that-racist-1250.png?resize=675%2C875)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: chad sexington on July 08, 2017, 08:14:54 am
Only kinda political, but still a good cartoon:
(http://i.imgur.com/wg34Vvl.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Tolpuddle Martyr on July 14, 2017, 09:33:59 pm
(https://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/3b245be7f867a784dbffe300e03e8a5df7393d4e/c=81-0-559-478&r=x233&c=210x230/local/-/media/2017/07/13/INGroup/Indianapolis/636355481659147189-071417.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on July 20, 2017, 11:13:01 am
I have seen too many Garrison comics with buff Trump so here's something completely different:

(https://scontent-arn2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/20245930_1423258041087736_6142461835435378453_n.jpg?oh=daa68cf0c9dc87e35f6c35124ec6d2fd&oe=5A07330E)

Note that the situation is a bit more complicated. A more apt comparison might have been if the GOP started to hit itself by accident while trying to fight the ACA.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: The_Queen on July 23, 2017, 03:27:51 pm
I have seen too many Garrison comics with buff Trump so here's something completely different:

(https://scontent-arn2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/20245930_1423258041087736_6142461835435378453_n.jpg?oh=daa68cf0c9dc87e35f6c35124ec6d2fd&oe=5A07330E)

Note that the situation is a bit more complicated. A more apt comparison might have been if the GOP started to hit itself by accident while trying to fight the ACA.

I have no sympathy for the GOP. First, they had more than 7 years to put together a viable alternative to the ACA, and came up with tax-cuts to the rich and preventing lottery winners from going on Medicaid. That is the best they got, after 7 years, over 60 repeal votes, and endless whining?

It also goes a bit to Obama's intelligence. The ACA actually saves the country money because while it expands Medicaid and Medicare, it pays for them with taxes that disproportionately hit the top 1%. Thus, any attempt by the GOP to repeal the ACA will inherently run the risk of being a massive tax-cut to the rich, which is a criticism that the GOP has not been able to shake off over the last 20 years. I miss Barack.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on July 23, 2017, 03:55:54 pm
The GOP had no alternative after the Dems retreated from their historical position of single-payer and couldn't even compromise on a public option (apparently Lieberman was the 41st vote against that). The ACA was the GOP plan (Nixon proposed it, the Heritage Foundation wrote policy papers on it, Dole ran on it, Gingrich and Grassley supported it, Romney implemented it in Massachusetts...) and once that was the best the Dems could do, the GOP was left with nothing other than "Obamacare bad!"
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on August 07, 2017, 07:07:13 pm
It's time for Dees - Transexual Space Jesus will save us all:

(http://i.ytimg.com/vi/BNWW8LE3KMA/hq720.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Skybison on August 07, 2017, 09:17:15 pm
I have absolutely no fucking idea what the hell that is about, but I LOVE IT!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: pyro on August 09, 2017, 04:33:01 pm
(http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/opinion/images/attachement/jpg/site1/20121020/00221917e13e11ec2f0709.jpg)

Conspiracy theorist as heck, but since the only labels they use are "FBI" uniforms, it's better than most of the political cartoons in the "Worst Cartoon" thread automatically.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on August 13, 2017, 08:14:17 am
https://thenib.com/doomed-to-repeat-it
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on August 24, 2017, 12:30:32 am
(http://images.glaciermedia.ca/polopoly_fs/1.22083405.1503420503!/fileImage/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_804/olson.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on August 24, 2017, 12:39:46 am
(http://i.imgur.com/YPmfL3T.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cloud3514 on August 24, 2017, 01:27:49 am
Or maybe, here's a thought:

Listen to fucking experts and don't build the wall in the first place!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Id82 on August 24, 2017, 07:49:05 am
Yeah but you see he can't do that because it was his biggest campaign promise, and he doesn't want to look like a moron despite tax payers not wanting to pay for this wall. It's pretty much his im gonna close guantanomo.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on August 24, 2017, 08:48:04 am
He made like three promises with any kind of definition:

1) Hillary will be thrown in jail.

2) He will build "The Wall."

3) Mexico will pay for "The Wall."

All else was pretty vague "making America great again" or "bringing jobs back" kinds of things. So far he hasn't been able to do anything to Clinton for some weird reason (perhaps his aides have explained that he can't just throw someone in jail without a good reason) and Mexico refuses to pay so he is trying to at least appear like he is going to fulfill one of his promises.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Id82 on August 24, 2017, 09:57:17 am
He's not going to do anything to Hillary because he doesn't want to do something to Hillary.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: SCarpelan on August 24, 2017, 02:05:52 pm
He's not going to do anything to Hillary because he doesn't want to do something to Hillary.

Well, she is rich and white and he won the election over her. For The Orange Idiot that is enough to think she is an actual human being and not carry too much of a grudge. If he is told he can't follow up with the promise to "lock her up" he is not going to push the issue.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on August 24, 2017, 02:06:47 pm
On the other hand, she's a woman.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: pyro on August 24, 2017, 03:50:54 pm
On the other hand, she's a woman.

Why is that a problem? I mean, most of his lovers are women.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on August 24, 2017, 04:32:04 pm
On the other hand, she's a woman.

Why is that a problem? I mean, most of his lovers are women.

Well, since he can't grab her pussy, he has to find some other way to fuck her without her permission.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: pyro on August 24, 2017, 05:58:22 pm
Fair nuff.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Tolpuddle Martyr on September 07, 2017, 05:14:11 pm
(https://i0.wp.com/freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/files/2017/09/horseshoe.png?w=500&ssl=1)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lana Reverse on September 07, 2017, 08:09:15 pm
(https://i0.wp.com/freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/files/2017/09/horseshoe.png?w=500&ssl=1)

Wrong thread.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Svata on September 07, 2017, 08:19:33 pm
No? Seems good to me
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lana Reverse on September 07, 2017, 08:41:47 pm
No? Seems good to me

Do you really think the far left is so benign?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Eiki-mun on September 07, 2017, 08:43:47 pm
No? Seems good to me

Do you really think the far left is so benign?

Remind me how many people the far left has killed in the last, say, five years? I'm being generous and giving them five.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: pyro on September 07, 2017, 09:07:22 pm
(murmurs something about how one dimension is clearly insufficient as a way to categorize political viewpoints)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lana Reverse on September 07, 2017, 09:20:22 pm
No? Seems good to me

Do you really think the far left is so benign?

Remind me how many people the far left has killed in the last, say, five years? I'm being generous and giving them five.

It seems to me that you're considering body count the only acceptable metric for a group's odiousness. I could explain the problems with this viewpoint, but it'll be more satisfying to prove you wrong. According to the Cato Institute, left-wing extremists murdered 13 people (https://www.cato.org/blog/terrorism-deaths-ideology-charlottesville-anomaly) since the beginning of 2016.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RavynousHunter on September 07, 2017, 09:43:14 pm
Cato Institute is a libertarian think tank; I'd take what they say with a fair amount of salt.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on September 07, 2017, 10:17:03 pm
No? Seems good to me

Do you really think the far left is so benign?

Remind me how many people the far left has killed in the last, say, five years? I'm being generous and giving them five.

It seems to me that you're considering body count the only acceptable metric for a group's odiousness. I could explain the problems with this viewpoint, but it'll be more satisfying to prove you wrong. According to the Cato Institute, left-wing extremists murdered 13 people (https://www.cato.org/blog/terrorism-deaths-ideology-charlottesville-anomaly) since the beginning of 2016.

OK your being disingenuous:

Firstly let's look at how your author decided what was 'left wing': "Left Wing terrorists include Communists, Socialists, animal rights activists, anti-white racists, LGBT extremists, attackers inspired by Black Lives Matter, and ethnic or national separatists who also embrace Socialism."

Even with that fairly broad definition:'Left Wing terrorists killed only 23 people in terrorist attacks during this time but 13 since the beginning of 2016. Nationalist and Right Wing terrorists have only killed 5 since then, including Charlottesville. Meanwhile, the annual chance of being murdered by a Left Wing terrorist was about 1 in 330 million per year. Regardless of the recent upswing in deaths from Left Wing terrorism since 2016, Nationalist and Right Wing terrorists have killed about 10 times as many people since 1992.'

'Islamist terrorists are the deadliest since 1992. They killed about 14 times as many people as Nationalist and Right Wing terrorists who, in turn, killed about 10 times as many people as Left Wing terrorists did.'

However even that relies on September 11 - 'The 9/11 attacks accounted for 2,983 of the 3,085 Islamist-inspired terrorist deaths—an overwhelming 97 percent.'

If you exclude 11 September 2001 then the Nationalist and Right Wing Terrorists are the most deadly.

Then again the article relies solely on the Author's grouping for the alleged 23 'left wing' murders which I would like more information on prior to accepting his word for it, especially seeing as by the sounds of things it includes Ethnic Supremacists/ Nationalists who just happen not to be white. Not exactly left wingers. I mean on this category the Japanese in WWII would be grouped as left wingers.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on September 08, 2017, 12:16:47 am
Also if you listen to what extreme-left and extreme-right are saying it becomes clear that one side is largely made up from racists who want to exterminate or deport different ethnic groups while the other side has very few people who support any kinds of massacres or killing.

They are not the same.


Even more so because usually when people talk about how "both sides are the same" they are not comparing Nazis with rabid Communists, they are comparing Nazis with the people marching against Nazis which is even worse comparison.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Tolpuddle Martyr on September 08, 2017, 03:11:47 am
No? Seems good to me

Do you really think the far left is so benign?
Do you really think your non sequitur isn't annoying as fuck?

Also, enjoy.
(https://itsgoingdown.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Untitled-6.png)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lana Reverse on September 08, 2017, 11:05:16 am
Also if you listen to what extreme-left and extreme-right are saying it becomes clear that one side is largely made up from racists who want to exterminate or deport different ethnic groups while the other side has very few people who support any kinds of massacres or killing.

They are not the same.


Even more so because usually when people talk about how "both sides are the same" they are not comparing Nazis with rabid Communists, they are comparing Nazis with the people marching against Nazis which is even worse comparison.

Well, I can't speak for anyone else, but I'm comparing Nazis with Antifa. You know, the thugs who have a well-documented track record of attacking innocent bystanders?

No? Seems good to me

Do you really think the far left is so benign?
Do you really think your non sequitur isn't annoying as fuck?

Also, enjoy.
(https://itsgoingdown.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Untitled-6.png)

There's a big difference between wanting to be protected from different opinions and wanting to be protected from violent mobs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtWnMOWDtdU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtWnMOWDtdU)

But hey, false equivalences are totally proof of hypocrisy.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: ironbite on September 08, 2017, 11:42:55 am
Oh yes because Nazis are such wonderful people in and of themselves.  What with their belief that all they consider "undesirable" should be put to death to make way for the glorious Aryan race.  Such wonderful people who we should just let them have their say right?

Ironbite-does your back get sore from carrying all that water?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on September 08, 2017, 11:51:50 am
First of all: where's the evidence that the ANTIFA are attacking innocent people? Because I've seen so many clear false-flag attacks made by Alt-Right & friends because they desperately want to make it look like boths sides are equal.


Second: You are still missing the point. One side has several hate-groups and terrorist organizations ganging up to support the Republican party and the president because they feel that the government is now sanctioning their hate. ...The other side is made up from several conflicting groups and organizations and now you side with Nazis because some of the people who oppose them have punched people?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lana Reverse on September 08, 2017, 12:05:55 pm
Oh yes because Nazis are such wonderful people in and of themselves.  What with their belief that all they consider "undesirable" should be put to death to make way for the glorious Aryan race.  Such wonderful people who we should just let them have their say right?

Ironbite-does your back get sore from carrying all that water?

I'm not defending what they have to say, only their right to say it. I'd do the same for any group: communists, Islamists, SJWs, ancaps, or anybody else you could care to name.

First of all: where's the evidence that the ANTIFA are attacking innocent people? Because I've seen so many clear false-flag attacks made by Alt-Right & friends because they desperately want to make it look like boths sides are equal.

They attacked a journalist (http://wtvr.com/2017/08/14/cbs-6-journalist-attack-richmond-protest/), pepper-sprayed a woman in Berkely (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ObYK4C9TxRs), hit a police horse with a flagpole (http://www.pennlive.com/news/2017/07/protester_horse_capitol_sharia.html), and that's just off the top of my head.

Second: You are still missing the point. One side has several hate-groups and terrorist organizations ganging up to support the Republican party and the president because they feel that the government is now sanctioning their hate. ...The other side is made up from several conflicting groups and organizations and now you side with Nazis because some of the people who oppose them have punched people?

I am not siding with the goddamn Nazis! Just because I condemn Antifa's violence doesn't mean I support those bastards. A plague on both their houses, I say.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on September 08, 2017, 12:26:17 pm
So you think that the both sides are just as bad?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lana Reverse on September 08, 2017, 01:56:21 pm
No, but being "less bad" doesn't automatically make you "good". Antifa may not be as bad as the Nazis, but that's not exactly a high bar to clear.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Id82 on September 08, 2017, 02:18:07 pm
I personally hate this antifa movement. All it does is give the alt right fuel to say look at how violent the other side is. All we want to do is practice our freedom of speech.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on September 08, 2017, 02:46:48 pm
I personally hate this antifa movement. All it does is give the alt right fuel to say look at how violent the other side is. All we want to do is practice our freedom of speech.

Exactly.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Tolpuddle Martyr on September 08, 2017, 09:09:26 pm
Oh yes because Nazis are such wonderful people in and of themselves.  What with their belief that all they consider "undesirable" should be put to death to make way for the glorious Aryan race.  Such wonderful people who we should just let them have their say right?

Ironbite-does your back get sore from carrying all that water?

I'm not defending what they have to say, only their right to say it. I'd do the same for any group: communists, Islamists, SJWs, ancaps, or anybody else you could care to name.

Except you haven't. Not going by your posting history ar any rate.

But you totally would. Any moment now. For sure.
But you have water to carry, I understand.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lana Reverse on September 08, 2017, 09:29:21 pm
Oh yes because Nazis are such wonderful people in and of themselves.  What with their belief that all they consider "undesirable" should be put to death to make way for the glorious Aryan race.  Such wonderful people who we should just let them have their say right?

Ironbite-does your back get sore from carrying all that water?

I'm not defending what they have to say, only their right to say it. I'd do the same for any group: communists, Islamists, SJWs, ancaps, or anybody else you could care to name.

Except you haven't. Not going by your posting history ar any rate.

But you totally would. Any moment now. For sure.
But you have water to carry, I understand.

Funny you should say that. Just today, I defended the rights of BDS supporters on this very board. Unless you think any criticism of Israel is automatically anti-Semitic, they aren't Nazis.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Tolpuddle Martyr on September 08, 2017, 09:55:51 pm
So...decent people and your alt right pals do have something in common, have a cookie!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lana Reverse on September 09, 2017, 11:43:08 am
So...decent people and your alt right pals do have something in common, have a cookie!

Apology accepted.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Tolpuddle Martyr on September 09, 2017, 08:13:24 pm
So...decent people and your alt right pals do have something in common, have a cookie!

Apology accepted.
Fuck you!  :)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on September 13, 2017, 04:17:46 am
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: pyro on September 13, 2017, 02:53:18 pm
"Because pissing off the libtards is reason enough" should be bigger than all the other panels. Don't believe me? Then explain why RomneyCare is alright but ObamaCare is so awful.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: SCarpelan on September 17, 2017, 11:31:22 am
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on September 22, 2017, 06:38:08 am
https://thenib.com/why-won-t-women-date-conservative-men
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on September 30, 2017, 10:42:08 pm
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: SCarpelan on October 13, 2017, 04:03:32 am
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on October 22, 2017, 10:50:17 am
THIS IS HOW YOU DO A GOOD POLITICAL CARTOON:
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Notice how there are no labels?

Notice how the artist trusts that the average viewer will recognize the characters?

For those who don't get it: the British prime minister May is threatening to give Boris Johnson (the British Donald Trump) the keys to the PM's apartment if she does not get a good BREXIT deal.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cloud3514 on October 22, 2017, 10:06:37 pm
I always look at British politics and all I can really think about it is "and people think a non-two party system is without problems?".
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on October 22, 2017, 11:03:27 pm
I always look at British politics and all I can really think about it is "and people think a non-two party system is without problems?".

The UK (and Canada) use an electoral system that tends toward two parties or regionalism (Duverger's Law) and attempt to have a multi-party system.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cloud3514 on October 23, 2017, 12:25:47 am
And it's landed the UK with Teresa May as Prime Minister.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on October 23, 2017, 12:59:17 am
I am under the impression that UK has some sort of supersized version of Gerrymandering that they inherited from the early days of their democrasy. With regions having voting power based on how much power it was given centuries ago which has no relation to how many people live there now.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on October 23, 2017, 03:49:26 am
Nah, they dealt with that in the mid-19th century.

I'm not sure that Scotland, Wales, and Northern Ireland have seats in the Commons quite in proportion to their population, but England dwarfs all of them anyway.

As for the system's landing May as PM, that's really hard to say.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Tolpuddle Martyr on October 23, 2017, 05:09:31 pm
I always look at British politics and all I can really think about it is "and people think a non-two party system is without problems?".

The UK (and Canada) use an electoral system that tends toward two parties or regionalism (Duverger's Law) and attempt to have a multi-party system.
Australia ends up the same with preferential voting. Though you can end up where independents or outliers like the Greens hold the balance of power. Overall it's still dominated by two major parties that bought the neoliberal mantra hook, line and sinker.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on October 23, 2017, 05:30:29 pm
I always look at British politics and all I can really think about it is "and people think a non-two party system is without problems?".

The UK (and Canada) use an electoral system that tends toward two parties or regionalism (Duverger's Law) and attempt to have a multi-party system.
Australia ends up the same with preferential voting. Though you can end up where independents or outliers like the Greens hold the balance of power. Overall it's still dominated by two major parties that bought the neoliberal mantra hook, line and sinker.

Hare is a 100% fucked up system. Any time I hear that some jurisdiction is considering adopting it I scream.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Skybison on November 04, 2017, 01:43:49 am
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Svata on November 04, 2017, 01:47:06 am
alright. Instead we just pass a budget that removes all subsidies and then blame the program for failing when we deliberately do everything we can to arrange for it to fail
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on November 04, 2017, 02:29:53 am
From a Maryland Republican:

Quote
Yeah some basic math tells me that with respect to this Tax bill, "Simplify the Tax Code" = "Take away all sorts of things that working and middle class people use to lower their tax liability".

I'm not opposed to corporate tax reform, but fucking over everyone who makes $30k+/year is the exact wrong way to go about it.

And if you want to simplify the tax code, I'm not necessarily opposed to that either; just do it in a way that doesn't double my tax bill. Assholes.

Between this and the Obamacare repeal debacle, I'm seriously starting to wonder if the Republicans even want to be in power. Because if they pass this piece of shit bill as it's written, I'm predicting 50+ seats flip in the house, and the Dems seriously threaten the Senate on the most GOP-friendly map in recent history.

Yes it's THAT bad.

EDIT:

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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on December 01, 2017, 07:19:37 pm
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Skybison on January 14, 2018, 11:27:51 pm
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Skybison on February 27, 2018, 12:39:51 pm
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cloud3514 on February 27, 2018, 06:17:27 pm
Speaking of the "skeptics," is anyone else flabbergasted that Dusty Smith walked away from them when he realized that they were all racing to see who could jump into the right-wing lake fastest?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: SCarpelan on February 27, 2018, 06:59:23 pm
Speaking of the "skeptics," is anyone else flabbergasted that Dusty Smith walked away from them when he realized that they were all racing to see who could jump into the right-wing lake fastest?
Huh. Slightly surprised but not flabbergasted.

I watched his stuff a few years ago when I found the Youtube atheist community but it didn't take long to realize he wasn't nearly as funny or smart as he thought he was. I think I'll check on his channel to see if there is nowadays something more interesting than obnoxious mockery of easily targeted religious idiots.

Now that I think back to what my impression of him was I guess I should be more surprised. I probably would have expected him to run after the easy views by jumping on the anti-"SJW" right-wing bandwagon, I just haven't given any thought to him for years. Good on him that he didn't.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cloud3514 on February 27, 2018, 11:13:14 pm
The funny thing is that he was running right along with them for a while, but then he somehow realized that the lake was filled with Trump piss, screeched to a stop and tried to get the others to stop. I don't know where he stands lately since I haven't watched any of his stuff since I first stumbled upon him years ago from a link in the sidebar of a Phillip Rose video and dropped him after four videos when he started complaining about women in exactly the way you're thinking.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: SCarpelan on February 28, 2018, 06:49:34 am
Yep, his content still seems to consist of SHOUTING simple and unfunny responses to morons. He's just occasionally targeting the anti-"SJW" crowd instead of just religion.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on March 02, 2018, 11:03:44 am
Ben Garrison has finally achieved perfection and it is glorious: https://twitter.com/grrrgraphics/status/969377687113314304?s=21 This is a real product for real people and the world is a better place now that it exists.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RavynousHunter on March 02, 2018, 06:02:25 pm
MY GAYDAR BROKE.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Skybison on March 03, 2018, 12:22:57 am
He's actually selling that as the Kiss Koffee Kup.

Just goes to show you that inside every Libertarian there's a Fascist waiting to get out.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cloud3514 on March 03, 2018, 01:44:05 am
In any other time of American politics, this would have been a stealth parody. Good fucking god.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on March 03, 2018, 01:52:53 am
I'm not entirely convinced that Garrison hasn't been playing 16 dimensional strip-poker and getting rich from Trumpets while continuing to make them seem ridiculous...
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: niam2023 on March 03, 2018, 02:27:40 am
I think my Gaydar broke, in between this and Wayne Allen Root's slobbering lust for President Trump.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on March 03, 2018, 02:29:13 am
I'm not entirely convinced that Garrison hasn't been playing 16 dimensional strip-poker and getting rich from Trumpets while continuing to make them seem ridiculous...

I think you've got to be right - I think he just realised that the grift is really easy on that side of politics.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: SCarpelan on March 03, 2018, 05:59:31 am
I'm not entirely convinced that Garrison hasn't been playing 16 dimensional strip-poker and getting rich from Trumpets while continuing to make them seem ridiculous...

I think you've got to be right - I think he just realised that the grift is really easy on that side of politics.

He calls it "Koffee Kiss Kup". That seems more plausible than I first thought.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on March 06, 2018, 04:33:51 pm
So here is Garrison's Oscar cartoon. What is fantastic is he bags Harvey Weinstein and Merryl Streep (for association with Weinstein) but then he has a sleep to the top actress award...

(http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/348/024/a24.jpg)

Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Id82 on March 06, 2018, 05:58:44 pm
Gotta love how they point out hollywood sex perverts but will ignore their own.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on March 06, 2018, 11:29:18 pm
Garrison's got a special ability for that:

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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lana Reverse on March 06, 2018, 11:41:36 pm
Garrison's got a special ability for that:

(http://scontent-sea1-1.cdninstagram.com/t51.2885-15/s480x480/e35/c130.0.490.490/23824454_147036449257221_6705367465808887808_n.jpg?ig_cache_key=MTY1NTU3MDAyMzg5NDU0MzgxNw%3D%3D.2.c)

Wait, Podesta's in the swamp? Why am I not surprised Garrison believes the Pizzagate nonsense.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on March 06, 2018, 11:51:21 pm
Bets on whether Trump really wants to give Roy Moore a federal judgeship?

(He won't because Moore's old and the Republicans are trying to pack the federal bench with as many young nutjobs as possible.)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RavynousHunter on March 07, 2018, 08:34:10 am
At least he seems to realize that he needs people that are going to be alive to see 2020.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Tolpuddle Martyr on March 09, 2018, 05:32:57 am
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on March 09, 2018, 11:57:11 am
Quote
Fake News. A lot of the world has a clear dearth of angry WHITE males.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on March 11, 2018, 01:21:48 pm
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Trump is surprisingly difficult to make good jokes out of. Apart from him living way inside the parody horizon many of the jokes also seem to be taking the easy shots or simply being crass. This one though, it may not be the most clever one in the world, it may not refer to any specific thing Trump has done but I just love it. It's that gator in the back about to hit the fisherman that really makes it.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on March 16, 2018, 07:30:56 pm
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on March 17, 2018, 04:55:42 am

EDIT: oops wrong thread originally.

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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lana Reverse on March 18, 2018, 04:22:41 pm
(https://i.redd.it/ierkjphqlem01.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Svata on March 18, 2018, 07:21:19 pm
Lol @ implying other candidates are allowed to live until the "election"
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Id82 on March 18, 2018, 09:09:00 pm
Why bother having "elections" at all? Why not just pull a China and declare dictatorship for life?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Svata on March 19, 2018, 02:46:35 am
That's.... not what china did. They removed term limits (which russia already didn't have), allowing the current president to keep getting re-elected.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on March 19, 2018, 02:51:27 am
That's.... not what china did. They removed term limits (which russia already didn't have), allowing the current president to keep getting re-elected.

Well, Xi is probably the most powerful politician in China since Mao, so it was tantamount to letting him be president for life.

As for Russia, there are term limits on the Presidency--no more than two consecutive terms (but no limit on total terms). It's why Putin spent some time as Prime Minister while Medvedev was President. (During which time, you may recall, the Prime Minister of Russia was decidedly more powerful than the President.)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on May 13, 2018, 06:16:47 pm
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on May 13, 2018, 06:41:12 pm
First Cartoon spoilered because it is too big.


 
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on May 22, 2018, 06:46:00 am
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lana Reverse on May 22, 2018, 10:52:08 am
(https://i.redd.it/xjr2x3q7yvyz.png)

1. Stop pretending Antifa only attacks Nazis.

2. My stance is that political violence is only making things worse.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Svata on May 22, 2018, 02:34:31 pm
mmm... nah. Fuck Nazis. Kill 'em all.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: niam2023 on May 22, 2018, 03:19:26 pm
In before Lana comes in whining about how you're too extreme, not a good leftist, and possibly calls you "regressive left".
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lana Reverse on May 22, 2018, 03:35:03 pm
mmm... nah. Fuck Nazis. Kill 'em all.

Okay Mr. Internet Tough Guy, why don't you go put your money where your mouth is?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Svata on May 22, 2018, 04:22:58 pm
I mean, I'm literally laying in a hospital bed with cancer, awaiting surgery and chemo. Also LOL @ "Nazis are bad and should be wiped out" being an "internet tough guy" position to take.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lana Reverse on May 22, 2018, 04:32:09 pm
I mean, I'm literally laying in a hospital bed with cancer, awaiting surgery and chemo. Also LOL @ "Nazis are bad and should be wiped out" being an "internet tough guy" position to take.

Oh, I forgot about that. I'm sorry.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Tolpuddle Martyr on May 22, 2018, 05:07:17 pm
In before Lana comes in whining about how you're too extreme, not a good leftist, and possibly calls you "regressive left".
She's a good leftist, who accommodates the reasonoble Nazis in the name of tolerance and diversity.

She may only be mildly sympathetic to your Nazi speech but she'll die to defend it from evil, intolerant anti fascists!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: ironbite on May 22, 2018, 06:45:48 pm
In before Lana comes in whining about how you're too extreme, not a good leftist, and possibly calls you "regressive left".

Bit late.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: niam2023 on May 24, 2018, 03:18:12 am
And now she'll get terribly offended, say that we're so very mean, and that everyone should just tolerate the Nazis, because Antifa is totally just as bad, just look at this tweet! Or this reddit post! Or this Tumblr rambling!

When it comes down to it, she's a moderate who is pissed that people dare not try and be as moderate as her - a waffling, obsessively centrist milquetoast.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lana Reverse on May 24, 2018, 09:10:00 am
And now she'll get terribly offended, say that we're so very mean, and that everyone should just tolerate the Nazis, because Antifa is totally just as bad, just look at this tweet! Or this reddit post! Or this Tumblr rambling!

When it comes down to it, she's a moderate who is pissed that people dare not try and be as moderate as her - a waffling, obsessively centrist milquetoast.

No, I just have principles.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RavynousHunter on May 24, 2018, 10:49:49 am
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: niam2023 on May 24, 2018, 04:45:40 pm
Then thank goodness for my sociopath.

If you are what a principled person is, I never want any principles.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on May 30, 2018, 05:03:10 am
I do believe that this is the finest, most Garrisony comic, that Garrison has ever done:

(https://i.redd.it/ty0zr95x6mz01.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Tolpuddle Martyr on May 30, 2018, 06:10:42 am
I do believe that this is the finest, most Garrisony comic, that Garrison has ever done:

(https://i.redd.it/ty0zr95x6mz01.jpg)
It's almost as entertainingly batty as the denim masturbator in P&W.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: ironbite on May 30, 2018, 07:53:15 pm
.................WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS!?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lana Reverse on May 30, 2018, 08:13:14 pm
.................WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS!?

Peak Garrison, my friend. Peak Garrison.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cloud3514 on May 30, 2018, 09:18:14 pm
Where.... where are you even supposed to start with that thing?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Skybison on May 31, 2018, 01:33:23 am
Moar Garrison

(https://78.media.tumblr.com/135e12ab3a37f228f20e01266c473d68/tumblr_p9a1pbgnGo1rr5t33o1_1280.jpg)

I... got nothing.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cloud3514 on May 31, 2018, 01:36:11 am
Well, it's more coherent than the last one?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lana Reverse on May 31, 2018, 11:04:59 am
Trump is a fraudster pretending to be more powerful and intelligent than he actually is.

A good cartoon.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Id82 on May 31, 2018, 04:50:22 pm
Is he aware that the wizard of oz was a fraud? Because I don't think his message is coming across in this comic.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on May 31, 2018, 04:53:35 pm
Ben "one man klan" Garrison made another comic with Hillary as the Wizard of Oz getting revealed by some GOP politician, so Garrison is aware of it. ...Whether he is intentionally sabotaging his message just to fuck with the Trump supporters or if he blanked out and forgot about it is unclear.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RavynousHunter on May 31, 2018, 05:01:54 pm
I think Garrison's just kinda...gone, mentally speaking.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lana Reverse on May 31, 2018, 05:04:20 pm
I think Garrison's just kinda...gone, mentally speaking.

I'm leaning that way myself.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on June 20, 2018, 01:03:29 am
(https://i.redditmedia.com/UMLL98997YYgenaJj_Sqeyps15OSAQEAaA6PnjxGCjY.jpg?s=ada8d39139d6016b4ec9190b42056dab)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Skybison on June 21, 2018, 12:58:22 pm
(https://78.media.tumblr.com/6179f5a31e413aa8de00ba927ccbe515/tumblr_padjqdpAmR1sf7tfio1_1280.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on June 24, 2018, 11:55:44 am
(https://thenib.imgix.net/usq/2226ed48-9d4b-41ae-9787-0b21f20910ef/alt-right-hook-1-b15d45.png?auto=compress,format&cs=srgb&_=b15d4536a5b69ad5a452798c43a79727)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lana Reverse on June 24, 2018, 12:00:25 pm
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/08/the-careful-pragmatic-case-against-punching-nazis.html (http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/08/the-careful-pragmatic-case-against-punching-nazis.html)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Svata on June 24, 2018, 12:49:07 pm
Or, you know. We could make Nazis afraid to openly be Nazis. Because they're Nazis and fuck them. Light them on *fire* in the streets, for all I care.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on June 24, 2018, 01:21:45 pm
Nazi ideology is based on violence and genocide. They won't debate in good faith and will merely use the platform you give to them to spread lies and hate. They assault and murder people when given the chance. They demand freedom of speech for themselves but will silence those who oppose them and harass and doxx people to keep them from opposing Nazis.

I have sympathy for people who have fallen for their lies or truly can't find friends elsewhere but the ideology has no value to humanity and deserves no platform. If punching them when they come out to preach hate is what it takes to stop them then doing so is necessary.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: ironbite on June 24, 2018, 03:31:53 pm
No surprise Lana is still endorsing soft touch when it comes to Nazis.

Ironbite-fuck Nazis.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lana Reverse on June 24, 2018, 03:32:38 pm
Nazi ideology is based on violence and genocide. They won't debate in good faith and will merely use the platform you give to them to spread lies and hate. They assault and murder people when given the chance. They demand freedom of speech for themselves but will silence those who oppose them and harass and doxx people to keep them from opposing Nazis.

I have sympathy for people who have fallen for their lies or truly can't find friends elsewhere but the ideology has no value to humanity and deserves no platform. If punching them when they come out to preach hate is what it takes to stop them then doing so is necessary.

And what if punching them has the opposite effect? Suppose violence against them were to embolden and radicalize them. Suppose it increased sympathy for them among the general public. Would you still endorse "punch a Nazi"?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on June 24, 2018, 04:18:23 pm
You just hinted that Nazis aren't already radicalized. Are you lying or have lived under a rock for all of your life?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: niam2023 on June 24, 2018, 04:20:41 pm
It's Lana - the free speech absolutist that feels everyone deserves frozen peach...until you advocate punching Nazis, because that's just mean!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lana Reverse on June 24, 2018, 04:45:49 pm
You just hinted that Nazis aren't already radicalized. Are you lying or have lived under a rock for all of your life?

Radicalized in action, not belief. I'm talking about acts of mass murder becoming more common.

It's Lana - the free speech absolutist that feels everyone deserves frozen peach...until you advocate punching Nazis, because that's just mean!

And because it could very well give them greater power. Read the article.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: ironbite on June 24, 2018, 04:55:25 pm
My take?  Follow Doctor Jones' example.

Ironbite-throw Nazis into prop planes.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: The_Queen on June 24, 2018, 05:09:14 pm
Oh, where have I seen this before? (http://forums.fstdt.net/index.php?topic=7865.0)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on June 24, 2018, 05:19:43 pm
Did you miss how the Neo-Nazis and KKK have assaulted and even killed people even before folks in USA began to punch them in the face? They never stopped killing people. The only difference is that it's been a while since actual Nazis have ruled countries.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Svata on June 24, 2018, 07:04:33 pm
You just hinted that Nazis aren't already radicalized. Are you lying or have lived under a rock for all of your life?

Radicalized in action, not belief. I'm talking about acts of mass murder becoming more common.


Ah, you're one of those. If we just don't bother the Nazis, and let them do what they want, they'll just... leave everyone alone. Because that's historically how it's worked. Leave them to their own devices and let them continue. Just give them what they want. Don't agitate them, don't rock the boat. Don't fight against them, they'll change their minds eventually.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lana Reverse on June 24, 2018, 09:01:46 pm
Did you miss how the Neo-Nazis and KKK have assaulted and even killed people even before folks in USA began to punch them in the face? They never stopped killing people. The only difference is that it's been a while since actual Nazis have ruled countries.

And the "punch a Nazi" mentality could very well lead to them ruling countries again. Aren't you afraid of self-fulfilling prophecies? Because it's happened before.

You just hinted that Nazis aren't already radicalized. Are you lying or have lived under a rock for all of your life?

Radicalized in action, not belief. I'm talking about acts of mass murder becoming more common.


Ah, you're one of those. If we just don't bother the Nazis, and let them do what they want, they'll just... leave everyone alone. Because that's historically how it's worked. Leave them to their own devices and let them continue. Just give them what they want. Don't agitate them, don't rock the boat. Don't fight against them, they'll change their minds eventually.

I'm fine with fighting against Nazis. Rolling over and letting them have what they want is suicidal. What I'm against is the use of violence except in response to violence they commit.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Svata on June 24, 2018, 09:21:30 pm
BEING. A. NAZI. IS. AN. ACT. OF. VIOLENCE.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on June 25, 2018, 03:53:18 am
You know, the only person I've seen here deciding to help Nazis (supposedly) because they think that punching them is wrong, is Lana.

And I think it says more about Lana's political beliefs than it says about how sympathetic the Nazis are.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: The_Queen on June 25, 2018, 06:50:21 am
Did you miss how the Neo-Nazis and KKK have assaulted and even killed people even before folks in USA began to punch them in the face? They never stopped killing people. The only difference is that it's been a while since actual Nazis have ruled countries.

And the "punch a Nazi" mentality could very well lead to them ruling countries again. Aren't you afraid of self-fulfilling prophecies? Because it's happened before.

Actually, there was a robust debate among philosophers, scientists, and academics in the 1930’s about the ethics of Nazi punching, with several prominent people, including Satre and Popper, saying punch away. Even political philosophy’s resident hippy, John Rawls, is ambivalent on the issue, leaning towards punching.

To act like this punching Nazis is the cause for their rise when contemporaries said the opposite is a bold claim. And I would suggest you familiarize yourself with Popper in particular, who rightfully points out the threat from fascism to liberal democracies: specifically that they appeal to emotional and race-baiting (Huckabee’s Mexican tweet), tell their supporters to utilize violence (Dana Loesch and the NRA), and tell their followers to ignore other sources of information (Tucker Carlson). The end result, much like Richard Spencer admits, is to use and defend their free speech, before curtailing others. Immigrants are being cracked down on, separated from families, and essentially kept in black sites that Congressmen can’t visit. We’re past the point that Popper thinks we should tolerate; that is how robust and nuanced this debate has been for 70 years. I mean, Nazis were literally dancing in the streets before being punched: so please don’t act like punching them emboldens them, when the chicken (Nazis) certainly came before the egg (punching them).

Edit to Add/Clarify: and I do not mean to say "go and punch to your heart's content." Simply to say that I think there is a lot more nuance to whether nazi-punching is acceptable. Certainly, I think World War II was just, primarily because our use of military force overthrew Nazi-rule in Germany. If I can justify war between nations based on ideology and curtailing despotic "political views," certainly it becomes acceptable between people at some point. I do not think this is controversial, instead what I find controversial is Lana acting like this is an open and shut issue that is devoid of grey area. I don't purport to be the arbiter of when punching is acceptable, simply that I think Lana is taking another crack at Nazi-apologism.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: SCarpelan on June 25, 2018, 07:56:17 am
There is a valid point of concern if violence helps Nazi propaganda. I don't know if the concern troll misunderstands this or intentionally misrepresents it to add weight to it: this propaganda is not going to increase their support among the general public. What it might do is draw some people who already are in their close proximity even closer. Whether this is an important enough concern compared to allowing Nazis spread fear among vulnerable groups without countering it with direct action can be debated. When you have Nazi sympathizers among the public officials and police and the public institutions are rotten with racism it's tone deaf to tell the minorities to just trust the system to protect them.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lana Reverse on June 25, 2018, 10:25:01 am
You know, the only person I've seen here deciding to help Nazis (supposedly) because they think that punching them is wrong, is Lana.

And I think it says more about Lana's political beliefs than it says about how sympathetic the Nazis are.

...Help Nazis? What?

There is a valid point of concern if violence helps Nazi propaganda. I don't know if the concern troll misunderstands this or intentionally misrepresents it to add weight to it: this propaganda is not going to increase their support among the general public. What it might do is draw some people who already are in their close proximity even closer. Whether this is an important enough concern compared to allowing Nazis spread fear among vulnerable groups without countering it with direct action can be debated. When you have Nazi sympathizers among the public officials and police and the public institutions are rotten with racism it's tone deaf to tell the minorities to just trust the system to protect them.

Okay, two things.

1. I'm not a concern troll.

2. More important, attacks on extremists can increase said extremists' support among the general public. It happened in Italy during the Cold War. Postwar Italy had a political party called the Italian Social Movement (MSI), which had significant neo-fascist elements. While it was a significant force for a time (mostly due to a strategic alliance with the Christian Democrats), it was pushed to the sidelines in 1960 and began to decline. It seemed like the party was doomed to irrelevance.

Then 1968 happened.

1968 was a turbulent year for many countries, and Italy was one of them. Among other things, it saw the beginning of a wave of far-left terrorism in the Italian Republic. Among the targets of these terrorist groups was the Italian Social Movement. Members of the party were assaulted, even assassinated, giving it greater sympathy among the Italian public. Combined with them being able to present themselves as defenders of law and order in the face of massive political upheaval, and they gained enormous support in the early 1970s, more than doubling their representation in both houses of the Italian Parliament. Even worse, a significant number of people either joined the MSI's more militant spinoffs (such as the National Vanguard and the New Order) or formed their own. These militant groups would go on to kill even more people than the left-wing extremists they sought to fight against.

So yeah, I have very good reasons to be against punching Nazis.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: SCarpelan on June 25, 2018, 11:15:57 am
So, you think occasionally punching and beating Nazis is viewed by the public as unfavorably as committing terrorist strikes that kill civilians and assassinating police officers and judges?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lana Reverse on June 26, 2018, 01:17:13 am
So, you think occasionally punching and beating Nazis is viewed by the public as unfavorably as committing terrorist strikes that kill civilians and assassinating police officers and judges?

No. But left-wing radicals do more than just assault Nazis. Remember the riots in Hamburg last year?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on June 26, 2018, 03:02:32 am
So it's still OK to punch Nazis like we've been saying from the start as long as we don't also murder innocent civilians and police officers.

I'm glad that we can finally end this debate.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lana Reverse on June 26, 2018, 03:10:45 pm
So it's still OK to punch Nazis like we've been saying from the start as long as we don't also murder innocent civilians and police officers.

I'm glad that we can finally end this debate.

Even ignoring everything else wrong with this post, attacking right-wing extremists led to a wave of right-wing terrorism in Italy. What makes you think it won't happen again?

Besides, violence isn't the only way to deal with Nazis (https://www.timesofisrael.com/black-parole-officer-inspires-ex-white-supremacist-to-remove-nazi-tattoos/).
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: SCarpelan on June 27, 2018, 08:02:48 am
I just realized who Anal reminds me of. Deacon Vorbis.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RavynousHunter on June 27, 2018, 11:40:22 am
The deacon of an audio format that was obsolete the moment it was first released?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on June 27, 2018, 11:52:58 am
Character from "Small Gods" by Terry Pratchett.

I read it in Finnish so I could get some of the titles wrong but he was basically the Grand Inquisitor (or actually Exquisitor or something) of a highly militant religion not entirely unlike Catholism during its worst times.

Vorbis is a character who is considered to be the obvious candidate for the next "Pope" (Prophet I think the title was) of the religion due to his devotion to the religion and his task of torturing unbelievers and heretics. Vorbis is a liar, a cruel sociopath who starts wars while pretending to be diplomatic and posing as a victim. ...He also lacks faith completely. He IS loyal to the cause of the religious organization but seems to utterly lack any faith in their god and merely goes with the rules for the sake of rules and to gain power for himself.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on June 27, 2018, 12:48:04 pm
This reminds me: https://twitter.com/studentactivism/status/1007301941540655106
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lana Reverse on June 27, 2018, 02:00:58 pm
This reminds me: https://twitter.com/studentactivism/status/1007301941540655106

Are you still talking about me?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: SCarpelan on June 27, 2018, 04:15:24 pm
Character from "Small Gods" by Terry Pratchett.

I read it in Finnish so I could get some of the titles wrong but he was basically the Grand Inquisitor (or actually Exquisitor or something) of a highly militant religion not entirely unlike Catholism during its worst times.

Vorbis is a character who is considered to be the obvious candidate for the next "Pope" (Prophet I think the title was) of the religion due to his devotion to the religion and his task of torturing unbelievers and heretics. Vorbis is a liar, a cruel sociopath who starts wars while pretending to be diplomatic and posing as a victim. ...He also lacks faith completely. He IS loyal to the cause of the religious organization but seems to utterly lack any faith in their god and merely goes with the rules for the sake of rules and to gain power for himself.

The thing that came to my mind was Om's attempt at talking to Vorbis. The god saw his mind as steel ball that no attempt at communication penetrated.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on June 27, 2018, 05:30:13 pm
(https://scontent-arn2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/36229652_2014625691940908_4105695019342495744_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=4f98ffbc21532e845333c397c056d93b&oe=5BAC5CF3)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lana Reverse on June 27, 2018, 06:56:57 pm
Well put, Mr. Bors. Sometimes, complaining about a lack of decorum shows a huge lack of priorities.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on June 27, 2018, 07:11:56 pm
Decorum and civility in US politics died at Charlottesville when a white-supremacist terrorist murdered Heather Hayer.

Its eulogy was Donald Trump saying that there were good people on both sides.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lana Reverse on June 27, 2018, 09:19:30 pm
Decorum and civility in US politics died at Charlottesville when a white-supremacist terrorist murdered Heather Hayer.

Its eulogy was Donald Trump saying that there were good people on both sides.

Actually, something recently came to my attention. A Redneck Revolt member named Dwayne Dixon has claimed - on video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10ypNR8w75A) - that he waved a gun at Fields shortly before the death of Heather Heyer. I'm... honestly not sure what to make of this.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: The_Queen on June 27, 2018, 09:39:02 pm
Decorum and civility in US politics died at Charlottesville when a white-supremacist terrorist murdered Heather Hayer.

Its eulogy was Donald Trump saying that there were good people on both sides.

Actually, something recently came to my attention. A Redneck Revolt member named Dwayne Dixon admitted - on video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10ypNR8w75A) - that he waved a gun at Fields shortly before the death of Heather Heyer. I'm... honestly not sure what to make of this.

Of course....
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on June 28, 2018, 03:18:08 am
Taking a look at that Youtube channel "Jews jews jews, poor South African whites being genocided, Identity Evropa, harassing Shia Labeauf with anti-semitism (but only as a "joke"), Richard Spencer times several, more jews jews jews and lots of more racism." ...Really? That's your source?

But as for the "waving a gun" thingy... Fields was intimidating protesters. When he stopped in front of Dixon, Dixon waved a gun. He didn't point a gun at Fields. He didn't threaten to shoot Fields. Fields continued driving around, including passing by Dixon again before he ran into a crowd on purpose.

Fields had several chances to go away. He was not threatened by Dixon much if he came back again and again. Fields made the choice to attempt to kill as many people as he could with his car and it wasn't because he couldn't get away, he got into that situation by purpose.

This is why we say that you are a Nazi. You've made the conscious choice to roll with them and defend them whenever you can. You are the kind of person who would complain that the Jews who killed the SS guards in an attempt to escape Auschwitz are the real villains.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: The_Queen on June 28, 2018, 05:05:20 am
I am not even going to make jokes here. Lana is—presumably—an adult; this is sad.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lana Reverse on June 28, 2018, 10:45:21 am
Taking a look at that Youtube channel "Jews jews jews, poor South African whites being genocided, Identity Evropa, harassing Shia Labeauf with anti-semitism (but only as a "joke"), Richard Spencer times several, more jews jews jews and lots of more racism." ...Really? That's your source?

I didn't notice that. But unless they cut some crucial context, I don't think that means we should automatically dismiss the clip.

But as for the "waving a gun" thingy... Fields was intimidating protesters. When he stopped in front of Dixon, Dixon waved a gun. He didn't point a gun at Fields. He didn't threaten to shoot Fields. Fields continued driving around, including passing by Dixon again before he ran into a crowd on purpose.

Fields had several chances to go away. He was not threatened by Dixon much if he came back again and again. Fields made the choice to attempt to kill as many people as he could with his car and it wasn't because he couldn't get away, he got into that situation by purpose.

Now that's a better rebuttal. Using facts. If what you say is true, then I withdraw my claim.

This is why we say that you are a Nazi. You've made the conscious choice to roll with them and defend them whenever you can. You are the kind of person who would complain that the Jews who killed the SS guards in an attempt to escape Auschwitz are the real villains.

And now you're just being ridiculous. I was not defending Fields, I was just bringing to light some information I thought might be a game-changer. I certainly don't defend Nazis; the closest I've come is saying "maybe we shouldn't use violence against them except in self-defense or the defense of others." Would a Nazi constantly mock the alt-right and their views? Would a Nazi denounce white supremacist hate crimes? Would a Nazi complain about Donald Trump pandering to racists, instead of praising him for it? Somehow, I don't think so.

Besides, you lost your right to judge my intent when you thought this clearly satirical article (http://archive.is/7VOAO) was sincere. Seriously, there are multiple details (a grown adult having never heard of Mao or the Holocaust, talking to a computer and expecting it to answer, the fact that it had "A Modest Proposal" in the title) that scream "Poe" like a Baltimore literary convention, and yet you thought the author sincerely wanted to throw socialists off skyscrapers.

Putting it bluntly, I don't think you're fit to be a moderator.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Skybison on June 28, 2018, 11:22:25 am
Taking a look at that Youtube channel "Jews jews jews, poor South African whites being genocided, Identity Evropa, harassing Shia Labeauf with anti-semitism (but only as a "joke"), Richard Spencer times several, more jews jews jews and lots of more racism." ...Really? That's your source?

I didn't notice that. But unless they cut some crucial context, I don't think that means we should automatically dismiss the clip.

But as for the "waving a gun" thingy... Fields was intimidating protesters. When he stopped in front of Dixon, Dixon waved a gun. He didn't point a gun at Fields. He didn't threaten to shoot Fields. Fields continued driving around, including passing by Dixon again before he ran into a crowd on purpose.

Fields had several chances to go away. He was not threatened by Dixon much if he came back again and again. Fields made the choice to attempt to kill as many people as he could with his car and it wasn't because he couldn't get away, he got into that situation by purpose.

Now that's a better rebuttal. Using facts. If what you say is true, then I withdraw my claim.

This is why we say that you are a Nazi. You've made the conscious choice to roll with them and defend them whenever you can. You are the kind of person who would complain that the Jews who killed the SS guards in an attempt to escape Auschwitz are the real villains.

And now you're just being ridiculous. I was not defending Fields, I was just bringing to light some information I thought might be a game-changer. I certainly don't defend Nazis; the closest I've come is saying "maybe we shouldn't use violence against them except in self-defense or the defense of others." Would a Nazi constantly mock the alt-right and their views? Would a Nazi denounce white supremacist hate crimes? Would a Nazi complain about Donald Trump pandering to racists, instead of praising him for it? Somehow, I don't think so.

Besides, you lost your right to judge my intent when you thought this clearly satirical article (http://archive.is/7VOAO) was sincere. Seriously, there are multiple details (a grown adult having never heard of Mao or the Holocaust, talking to a computer and expecting it to answer, the fact that it had "A Modest Proposal" in the title) that scream "Poe" like a Baltimore literary convention, and yet you thought the author sincerely wanted to throw socialists off skyscrapers.

Putting it bluntly, I don't think you're fit to be a moderator.

8 year olds dude.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lana Reverse on June 28, 2018, 12:29:08 pm
Taking a look at that Youtube channel "Jews jews jews, poor South African whites being genocided, Identity Evropa, harassing Shia Labeauf with anti-semitism (but only as a "joke"), Richard Spencer times several, more jews jews jews and lots of more racism." ...Really? That's your source?

I didn't notice that. But unless they cut some crucial context, I don't think that means we should automatically dismiss the clip.

But as for the "waving a gun" thingy... Fields was intimidating protesters. When he stopped in front of Dixon, Dixon waved a gun. He didn't point a gun at Fields. He didn't threaten to shoot Fields. Fields continued driving around, including passing by Dixon again before he ran into a crowd on purpose.

Fields had several chances to go away. He was not threatened by Dixon much if he came back again and again. Fields made the choice to attempt to kill as many people as he could with his car and it wasn't because he couldn't get away, he got into that situation by purpose.

Now that's a better rebuttal. Using facts. If what you say is true, then I withdraw my claim.

This is why we say that you are a Nazi. You've made the conscious choice to roll with them and defend them whenever you can. You are the kind of person who would complain that the Jews who killed the SS guards in an attempt to escape Auschwitz are the real villains.

And now you're just being ridiculous. I was not defending Fields, I was just bringing to light some information I thought might be a game-changer. I certainly don't defend Nazis; the closest I've come is saying "maybe we shouldn't use violence against them except in self-defense or the defense of others." Would a Nazi constantly mock the alt-right and their views? Would a Nazi denounce white supremacist hate crimes? Would a Nazi complain about Donald Trump pandering to racists, instead of praising him for it? Somehow, I don't think so.

Besides, you lost your right to judge my intent when you thought this clearly satirical article (http://archive.is/7VOAO) was sincere. Seriously, there are multiple details (a grown adult having never heard of Mao or the Holocaust, talking to a computer and expecting it to answer, the fact that it had "A Modest Proposal" in the title) that scream "Poe" like a Baltimore literary convention, and yet you thought the author sincerely wanted to throw socialists off skyscrapers.

Putting it bluntly, I don't think you're fit to be a moderator.

8 year olds dude.

I guess you ran out of arguments and are resorting to use of non sequitur.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Skybison on June 28, 2018, 12:43:05 pm
I guess you ran out of arguments and are resorting to use of non sequitur.

8 year olds dude.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: ironbite on June 28, 2018, 01:18:59 pm
Now now.  We don't know that Lana is definitely UpHisOwnDragon.  Just supposing that.  That said, didn't Nazis rape 8 year olds anyways?

Ironbite-cause that's probably a thing Nazis did.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Lana Reverse on June 28, 2018, 02:24:36 pm
Now now.  We don't know that Lana is definitely UpHisOwnDragon.  Just supposing that.  That said, didn't Nazis rape 8 year olds anyways?

Ironbite-cause that's probably a thing Nazis did.

Given the many, many sex crimes they committed, I wouldn't be surprised.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Art Vandelay on June 28, 2018, 08:13:40 pm
I thought kiddy diddlers were given a lungful or two under ol' Hitler's watch.

Personally, I'm not sure who to cheer for.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on July 30, 2018, 05:58:57 pm
(http://api.theweek.com/sites/default/files/81_213571.jpg?resize=807x807)

(http://static.politico.com/dims4/default/7cf2254/2147483647/resize/1160x%3E/quality/90/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fstatic.politico.com%2Fd4%2F08%2F384bdc7b4969986a899889e2bd41%2F1-nick-anderson-washington-post-writers-group-and-cartoonists-group.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on August 13, 2018, 08:05:00 pm
(http://api.theweek.com/sites/default/files/28_jones_0.jpg?resize=807x807)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on August 22, 2018, 08:32:15 pm
(http://fastly-io.guim.co.uk/img/media/f98a64934b5c468188f78080e2401c565d531edb/0_0_650_396/master/650.jpg?w=940&q=55&auto=format&usm=12&fit=max&s=fab1a3694bf3b339a55ad40ea3d83972)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on August 26, 2018, 01:52:58 am
Garrison - completely losing his mind - Spoilered because massive:

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on August 26, 2018, 01:55:30 am
People are joking that Trump will try to disown his son once he is in court for lying to FBI but I'm more interested in seeing how Garrison will twist that...
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on August 26, 2018, 03:18:10 am
Garrison will just call it 'Fake News". Either that or do a cartoon showing that it was all Kushner's fault.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on September 02, 2018, 06:15:04 pm
(http://api.theweek.com/sites/default/files/9357fa2b-74bd-48b5-8c6c-8bb60e89c575.jpg?resize=807x807)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on September 05, 2018, 09:20:51 pm
After the McCain debacle, Garrison is back to his best:

(http://grrrgraphics.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/blue_wave_cartoon.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Id82 on September 05, 2018, 10:03:51 pm
That comics insane.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on September 05, 2018, 10:53:43 pm
There really isn't enough happening or enough labels.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: niam2023 on September 06, 2018, 12:39:42 am
Look! Bill Cipher is driving the ship!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RavynousHunter on September 06, 2018, 10:23:21 am
...Trump's holding the hammer wrong.  Then again, he's out of touch enough that he'd try to hammer a sign down with the claw part.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Art Vandelay on September 06, 2018, 10:26:50 am
Hilary seems to have a second mouth on her tongue.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on September 06, 2018, 01:00:13 pm
Things to note:

A warning sign does not stop a wave.

Cohen is drawn to be a "rat" not a liar. They hate Cohen because he is telling the truth about Trump, not because they think he is lying.

What is that pile of shit with needles representing? There's no label explaining it despite almost everything else being labeled.

A warning sign does not stop a wave, Trump would still be drowned by that wave.

Hillary and Obama are still the boogeymen that the GOP fears.

Antifa bike-lock guy is there as well. It must suck when that's the worst thing that Antifa has done when they try to make them look as dangerous as the Nazis.

Despite the quotation signs on the BLUE WAVE he sure did draw it to be massive. Most GOP-supporting cartoonists would have drawn it to be a really low wave to emphasize that it's not a threat. Instead GRRRison makes it look dangerous.

That sign ain't gonna protect Trump from the wave. It almost makes me think that this is an anti-Trump comic.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on September 06, 2018, 06:29:30 pm
Garrison thinks the manly bulge in Trump's pants will deflect the blue wave.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: niam2023 on September 06, 2018, 06:39:58 pm
He'd know, he always has his lips around it.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on September 06, 2018, 08:15:42 pm
(http://api.theweek.com/sites/default/files/20180905edhoc-a.jpg?resize=807x807)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: chad sexington on September 07, 2018, 12:31:18 pm
Hilary seems to have a second mouth on her tongue.

The extreme right have convinced themselves that she has a hole in her tongue, for... reasons.  I really can't keep up with them any more :/
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Id82 on September 07, 2018, 01:51:34 pm
It's what her slithering reptilian tongue pokes out of obviously.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cloud3514 on September 07, 2018, 01:52:22 pm
Wait, what? That's absolutely inane and insane.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Id82 on September 07, 2018, 01:56:11 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cov4nFKWYAA0Nhw.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Art Vandelay on September 07, 2018, 10:41:48 pm
Hilary is someone's cat confirmed.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on September 16, 2018, 08:53:22 pm
(http://api.theweek.com/sites/default/files/ff2f07ea-6af7-4005-9601-f07b1b7949b2.jpg?resize=807x807)


Bonus, Classic Garrison when he was still concerned by Fascists rather than supporting them:

(http://grrrgraphics.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/9712442_orig.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on September 19, 2018, 06:24:49 pm
Not sure if political but cute:

(http://api.theweek.com/sites/default/files/136_215745.jpg?resize=807x807)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on September 24, 2018, 11:36:59 pm
Garrison, this time with Commie-muslim King oBama:

(http://grrrgraphics.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/trump_fisa_documents.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on September 24, 2018, 11:40:09 pm
Holy geez does Garrison have that backward.

Trump apparently wants the documents released unredacted, which would reveal certain US intelligence assets and sources in places like... Russia. Damn he's dumb.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on September 25, 2018, 01:38:23 am
Garrison is always pretty impressive with how wrong-headed his views are.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on September 30, 2018, 06:51:30 pm
(https://i.cbc.ca/1.4844864.1538337568!/cpImage/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/16x9_780/kavanaugh-cartoon-20180930.jpg)

Bruce MacKinnon, Halifax's Chronicle Herald
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on October 02, 2018, 11:39:05 pm
That is a hell of a cartoon. Here's the conservative counterpoint with Ramirez:

(http://images.theweek.com/sites/default/files/mrz100118dapr.jpg?resize=807x807)

The problem with which is that Kavanaugh is going for a job interview not being charged with a criminal offence. Although Ramirez is right in that the Republicans want to avoid due process and just appoint him already but I suspect that's not what Ramirez is getting at.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cloud3514 on October 02, 2018, 11:47:51 pm
Which demonstrates how he missed the point of all of the criticism of Kavanaugh.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on October 03, 2018, 08:59:07 am
Seeing as it can already be proven that Kavanough lied on several bits of his statement (under oath) wouldn't it make sense to dump him and get another candidate?

Nah, they'll just ram him through anyway.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Id82 on October 03, 2018, 11:58:23 am
I came across these twitter comments today in response to Mackinnon cartoon above. I hate how fucking hyper sensitive people are these days that they would view a comic that depicts the GOP attacking women as a man attacking women themselves, and that men are not allowed to depict this view point as only a woman who has gone through this experience should. Do you want men to side with you or do you want to create more of this environment you hate? That's the point of the cartoon it's supposed to be shocking and piss you off about the GOP, way to fucking miss the point for your own self victimization. I hate SJWs.

(https://scontent-yyz1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/42992006_10155476115706205_4922344550590054400_n.jpg?_nc_cat=1&oh=7bd1a406a026a68b647742a410936b94&oe=5C59B8F0)

Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: SCarpelan on October 03, 2018, 09:06:08 pm
If these women are survivors themselves and not just reacting on what they assume will trigger a survivor and/or throwing the term "getting triggered" around without understanding its seriousness their anger is understandable. Getting triggered means you are reliving the traumatic experience as if it was happening again and if such a situation comes unexpectedly it can literally retraumatize you. If someone tries to speak for you but causes you more pain because they don't understand your situation properly you are going to be pissed off.

I am personally not able to make the judgment whether the image is graphic enough to be a commonly triggering factor or not. I didn't even consider that possibility before reading that but I'm not going to dismiss their perspective outright. If you are being intentionally shocking with an issue that is known to be traumatic for the people you are trying to help it's your responsibility to be sure you understand their perspective. Having a cartoon that is shocking enough to trigger survivors next to an article about sexual assault would be fine since that's a place where you can reasonably expect to find triggering content but having it somewhere where people just encounter it without being able to avoid or prepare for it is irresponsible. The survivors' perspectives are already dismissed by the rape apologists so if you are defending them you should avoid making the same mistake.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Sigmaleph on October 05, 2018, 05:34:54 pm
I came across these twitter comments today in response to Mackinnon cartoon above. I hate how fucking hyper sensitive people are these days that they would view a comic that depicts the GOP attacking women as a man attacking women themselves, and that men are not allowed to depict this view point as only a woman who has gone through this experience should. Do you want men to side with you or do you want to create more of this environment you hate? That's the point of the cartoon it's supposed to be shocking and piss you off about the GOP, way to fucking miss the point for your own self victimization. I hate SJWs.

(https://scontent-yyz1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/42992006_10155476115706205_4922344550590054400_n.jpg?_nc_cat=1&oh=7bd1a406a026a68b647742a410936b94&oe=5C59B8F0)

...depictions of sexual assault can in fact be triggering to people who have been sexually assaulted. 'It's supposed to be shocking' doesn't actually excuse anything.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Tolpuddle Martyr on October 05, 2018, 06:57:18 pm
Personally don't get the rage at other people raging about how a particular doodle is triggering for them. That's the way they feel about it, they're expressing an opinion about it. The fact that they are using language normally associated with "SJWs" like "triggering" is neither here nor there. Don't agree with their opinion, no worries. Getting pissed at them for having the opinion off the bat seems a bit silly.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Id82 on October 05, 2018, 09:11:24 pm
I have no doubt the image is triggering to some people and that's not what I'm "raging" about. I'm more annoyed with the second comment and the double standards that I'm noticing. How she specifically said Male artists instead of artists themselves as if she would be totally OK with the artwork if it was drawn by a woman. I don't know if she would, but that's how it's coming across.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Tolpuddle Martyr on October 05, 2018, 10:12:22 pm
Well, yeah males can be victims of sexual assault too. Still, it doesn't piss me off. Guess I don't take it personally.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on October 11, 2018, 02:24:55 am
Did davedan post this one already? Because it's another glorious, glorious Garrison.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DZzhq7IX0AE8Dwk.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RavynousHunter on October 11, 2018, 09:39:41 am
I love how Garrison makes Drumpf look like a miniboss from a Yakuza game.  Ya know, the kinda guy that either gets beaten into mulch by Kiryu or cut into pieces by Majima before we figure out who the big bad guy is.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on October 15, 2018, 05:56:23 pm
The thing about Garrison is that he can be relied upon to parrot current right wing talking points, in this one that the US is not a democracy but a Republic, and that democracy itself is bad:

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on October 15, 2018, 07:23:25 pm
I have to wonder if these people who parrot the "republic not a democracy" talking point actually know the context.

Way way back in the late 18th century, "democracy" meant "direct democracy" (think ancient Athens) and "republic" meant "representative democracy" (think all democratic countries today--Switzerland's probably the closest to a direct democracy, but there are important checks on the power of the voters as a legislative body). Athenian democracy was essentially mob rule, and Madison et al were desperate to avoid that (see, for instance, Federalist No. 55). Hence they set up a republic (ie a representative democracy) specifically to hold the power of the mob in check. (Hence why the President is elected indirectly and the Senate was initially also elected indirectly.)

So technically the people who say "republic not a democracy" are right, if you're 225 years behind in your definitions.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on October 16, 2018, 01:15:12 am
Republic just means that it's not ruled by a king.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cloud3514 on October 16, 2018, 02:03:22 am
I have to wonder if these people who parrot the "republic not a democracy" talking point actually know the context.

Way way back in the late 18th century, "democracy" meant "direct democracy" (think ancient Athens) and "republic" meant "representative democracy" (think all democratic countries today--Switzerland's probably the closest to a direct democracy, but there are important checks on the power of the voters as a legislative body). Athenian democracy was essentially mob rule, and Madison et al were desperate to avoid that (see, for instance, Federalist No. 55). Hence they set up a republic (ie a representative democracy) specifically to hold the power of the mob in check. (Hence why the President is elected indirectly and the Senate was initially also elected indirectly.)

So technically the people who say "republic not a democracy" are right, if you're 225 years behind in your definitions.


These are the same people who say shit like "the KKK was founded by Democrats!". It's convenient for them to pretend that politics and political definitions haven't changed in hundreds of years because it does things like make dumbshit undecided voters think that the Democrats are the racists, even though the modern Klan and neo-NAZIs didn't vote for Clinton. They rely on people being lazy and not wanting to do their own research, even though it takes less research and more extremely basic reasoning starting with how the fucking Klan and neo-NAZIs don't vote for Democrats.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on October 16, 2018, 02:07:34 am
Republic just means that it's not ruled by a king.

I know that, I'm pointing out what it meant way back then when most countries were monarchies.

It is a case of denying definitional shift, as Cloud noted.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on October 17, 2018, 11:23:26 pm
I should probably start a thread just for Garrison, but after this one I promise, I will post someone else next. The funny thing is it seems to accept that Trump slept with her. Why else is he holding a carrot?

(http://grrrgraphics.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/stormy_horse_face.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Skybison on October 18, 2018, 12:44:11 am
I don't even know what point he's trying to make here.  Stormy Daniels is too ugly for Trump to have slept with?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on October 18, 2018, 01:15:06 am
I think its more than Stormy fucked him for the carrot.

This is one of those cartoons which is quite sharp but the drawing is fucking abysmal:

(http://images.theweek.com/sites/default/files/53_216889.jpg?resize=807x807)

Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: niam2023 on October 18, 2018, 01:22:07 am
That horrifying Stormy-Horsewoman reminded me of Ludwig the Accursed from Bloodborne. Oh those fun noises return to me.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Id82 on October 18, 2018, 01:59:17 am
Donald Trump called Stormy Daniels a horse face. Which is why she looks like horse.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: niam2023 on October 18, 2018, 02:26:42 am
Does not change the fact that illustration is witheringly horrifying. WTF Garrison?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on October 21, 2018, 05:47:29 pm
(http://static.politico.com/dims4/default/360d2e6/2147483647/resize/1160x%3E/quality/90/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fstatic.politico.com%2F15%2F2c%2F27098b4b4944a08f779baa038dc7%2F4-m.%20Wuerker-Politico.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on October 24, 2018, 07:34:42 pm
Unfortunately I can't figure out how to post the image of this cartoon, so I have the link to the Guardian: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/oct/24/coal-it-will-not-die-omg (https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/oct/24/coal-it-will-not-die-omg)

First Dog on the Moon, howling into the Void
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on November 19, 2018, 02:02:52 am
(http://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/64a382901e1870b50c1ca6134f2763685f7568bb/0_0_941_337/master/941.jpg?width=940&quality=85&auto=format&fit=max&s=9eba156cea39d9d95a3612fca77fdd61)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Id82 on November 19, 2018, 08:52:17 am
That one actually made me laugh out loud.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on November 19, 2018, 05:11:55 pm
Here's a better Brexit Cartoon, as it makes a joke:

(http://images.theweek.com/sites/default/files/20181115edstc-a.jpg?resize=807x807)


To be fair it is hard to make a brexit cartoon at the moment when everyone thinks it's shit including the brexiteers.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on November 20, 2018, 01:43:24 am
Brexit is going exactly the way EU warned it would go. It was clear in the beginning that if UK leaves then the best deal they can get is the same one as Norway has. Now May is trying to make UK accept that deal and the other Brexiteers are crying that leaving EU means that they lose their MEPs and other nonsense.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on November 27, 2018, 05:36:29 pm
(http://images.theweek.com/sites/default/files/226_218551.jpg?resize=807x807)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on November 28, 2018, 04:55:33 pm
(http://images.theweek.com/sites/default/files/20181127edstc-a.jpg?resize=807x807)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on November 28, 2018, 06:13:43 pm
Same up here.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on November 29, 2018, 05:55:25 pm
This is going here because while I think the sentiment and message of the Cartoon is both mean spirited and delusional, you have to admit that fucker Ramirez can draw:

(http://theweek.com/cartoons/809823/political-cartoon-statue-liberty-migrants-seeking-asylum-immigration-policy)

Hopefully this works and you get some Dees (ok too big):

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Art Vandelay on November 29, 2018, 05:59:59 pm
This is going here because while I think the sentiment and message of the Cartoon is both mean spirited and delusional, you have to admit that fucker Ramirez can draw:

(http://theweek.com/cartoons/809823/political-cartoon-statue-liberty-migrants-seeking-asylum-immigration-policy)
I think you used the wrong link.
(https://images.theweek.com/sites/default/files/mrz112718dapr.jpg?resize=807x807)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on November 29, 2018, 06:08:26 pm
Thanks mate.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on December 09, 2018, 05:42:22 pm
(https://static.politico.com/dims4/default/34c8b9a/2147483647/resize/1160x%3E/quality/90/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fstatic.politico.com%2F98%2F5b%2F4aa8c6d845389ac3d7b03728e884%2F1-jen-sorensen.jpg)

(https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/0e56c0c037b2b7715c94f9a49699a3a8ffb5e1c0/2_0_3031_1819/master/3031.jpg?width=940&quality=85&auto=format&fit=max&s=05a2e2a989a560859785b222225060fb)

(https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/a57640bac5741fae8730e42e36a073e2ef75d84a/0_0_3035_1819/master/3035.jpg?width=940&quality=85&auto=format&fit=max&s=1b4d7ce6620f578341b7855f229e30cd)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on December 19, 2018, 05:15:42 pm
Don't agree with the message but it's a funny cartoon well executed:

(https://images.theweek.com/sites/default/files/20181218edshe-b.jpg?resize=807x807)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on December 19, 2018, 06:52:04 pm
(https://images.theweek.com/sites/default/files/sbr121918dapr.jpg?resize=807x807)

(https://images.theweek.com/sites/default/files/20181218edsuc-a.jpg?resize=807x807)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: DarkPhoenix on December 20, 2018, 01:33:16 am
(http://images.theweek.com/sites/default/files/20181127edstc-a.jpg?resize=807x807)

Needs a Canadian representative next to Uncle Sam, 'cause as bad as GM just fucked the US, they fucked us WORSE.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on December 21, 2018, 03:40:41 am
(https://preview.redd.it/93jie9yahi521.png?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=064d83a2ca3532aecb674401e16ea146ba16faac)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RavynousHunter on December 22, 2018, 11:34:41 am
Every time I see the Gadsden Flag, I can't help but see this, now:
(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Chaos Undivided on January 14, 2019, 08:53:37 pm
Not really a political cartoon, but I think it works here.

(https://i.redd.it/gfsyrv80yko11.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on January 29, 2019, 08:28:45 pm
Cartoonists love Roger Stone's Tattoo:

The Good: OK I THINK I HAVE FUCKED THE LINK

(https://theweek.com/cartoons/820476/political-cartoon-trump-roger-stone-tattoos)


The Garrison:

(https://grrrgraphics.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/stone_mueller_tattoos.jpg)

(https://grrrgraphics.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/roger_stone_arrest.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on January 29, 2019, 10:28:19 pm
Cartoonists love Roger Stone's Tattoo:

The Good: OK I THINK I HAVE FUCKED THE LINK

(https://images.theweek.com/sites/default/files/82_221057_1.jpg?resize=807x807)


The Garrison:

(https://grrrgraphics.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/stone_mueller_tattoos.jpg)

(https://grrrgraphics.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/roger_stone_arrest.jpg)

Should have fixed the good ones; see no reason the Garrisons shouldn't work though.

EDIT: They show up for me now...
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on January 29, 2019, 11:19:08 pm
No it was only the other one I had trouble with. Garrison's were fine.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on January 30, 2019, 10:16:15 pm
(https://static.politico.com/dims4/default/792c978/2147483647/resize/1160x%3E/quality/90/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fstatic.politico.com%2Fae%2Ff3%2Fc994c905479285ede0b3989fb551%2Ftom-tomorrow.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on February 17, 2019, 12:26:21 am
(https://static.politico.com/dims4/default/e39c90a/2147483647/resize/1160x%3E/quality/90/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fstatic.politico.com%2Fe9%2Fc2%2F97134fef40d399b2bd050f2efa6f%2F8-matt-davies-newsday-and-andrews-mcmeel-syndicate.jpg)

(https://static.politico.com/dims4/default/d824416/2147483647/resize/1160x%3E/quality/90/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fstatic.politico.com%2Ff1%2Fce%2F1755cd6849cea5bdfa5f47fe1e40%2F10-m.Wuerker-Politico.jpg)

(https://static.politico.com/dims4/default/770ed02/2147483647/resize/1160x%3E/quality/90/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fstatic.politico.com%2Fc3%2F35%2F2052712d4994a04a1e1f7354e9b4%2F6-tom-tomorrow.jpg)

(https://static.politico.com/dims4/default/762e4d6/2147483647/resize/1160x%3E/quality/90/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fstatic.politico.com%2Fb2%2F2c%2F728b594f4d4681b2964e41ed2f59%2F3-jack-ohman-sacramento-bee-and-cartoonist-group.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on February 17, 2019, 08:49:02 am
(https://stmedia.stimg.co/ows_155027699266079.jpg?auto=compress&crop=faces&dpr=1&w=1203&fit=clip&h=409)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on February 19, 2019, 05:21:00 pm
Garrison:

(https://grrrgraphics.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/gullvers_president.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on February 19, 2019, 05:35:26 pm
"Ocrazyo Cortez"
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Chaos Undivided on February 19, 2019, 06:19:06 pm
"Ocrazyo Cortez"

Pretty rich of him to be casting aspersions on her mental health when he worships a man who might have early-stage dementia.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on February 19, 2019, 07:45:12 pm
"Ocrazyo Cortez"

Pretty rich of him to be casting aspersions on her mental health when he worships a man who might have early-stage dementia.

I don't necessarily read it as that; I may be too charitable, but it could be that he thinks her ideas are crazy, and is just too closely associating the idea with the person.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: DarkPhoenix on February 20, 2019, 02:26:15 am
Yep, you idiots, keep insisting that Trump would be the greatest President ever if it weren't for all those evil non-wacko Republicans trying to "hold him down".  I mean, it's not like there's WAY more there worth looking into than there was for every previous president since Nixon...

And while idiots like Garrison continue to insist that Trump didn't do anything wrong, the Wall Street Journal is going for a different angle; that Trump has committed SO MANY CRIMES that attempting to investigate all of them would waste the rest of his Presidency, so why not just let him off completely?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: niam2023 on February 20, 2019, 02:53:08 am
Your honor, it is my opinion that my client Patrick Bateman has indeed killed many, many, MANY people, but we'd be better off not prosecuting him because would you just imagine how long it'd take?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on February 20, 2019, 04:28:52 am
Your honor, it is my opinion that my client Patrick Bateman has indeed killed many, many, MANY people, but we'd be better off not prosecuting him because would you just imagine how long it'd take?

This is of course why prosecutors will choose sometimes to carve off a few crimes where they're pretty sure they can get a conviction and will be enough to put the accused away for the rest of their life.

For instance, Robert Pickton, who was accused of murdering a few dozen prostitutes, was ultimately only found guilty of six counts of second-degree murder. (The Crown wanted first-degree but the jury only gave second-degree... but recommended the maximum penalty anyway, life without parole for 25 years, consecutively for all charges, which would have been mandatory for first-degree.) That got him in jail until he's dead, and the Crown stayed the other charges to save court time. (Over howls of protest from the families of the other women with whose murders he was charged.)

There's also at least rumours that Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva, former President of Brazil and, at one point, leading contender for the Presidential election last year, was nailed on a relatively minor corruption charge (as opposed to more serious ones he was facing) shortly before the election because his political opponents could get a conviction on that one much more easily, and all they needed was a conviction on basically anything to stop him from running.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: SCarpelan on February 20, 2019, 06:31:12 am
There's also at least rumours that Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva, former President of Brazil and, at one point, leading contender for the Presidential election last year, was nailed on a relatively minor corruption charge (as opposed to more serious ones he was facing) shortly before the election because his political opponents could get a conviction on that one much more easily, and all they needed was a conviction on basically anything to stop him from running.

Relatively minor = completely fabricated.

The prosecutor in his trial also acted as a judge and the final sentence was nine years of prison for undefined acts of corruption. The initial charge was for accepting renovations to a luxury apartment from a businessman. The only evidence was a statement from the said businessman (in exchange for a lighter sentence for his own crimes) and there was no evidence of Lula ever even setting a foot in the said apartment. To top it off Lula was sent to isolation for no reason other than fear of his political influence. UN Human Rights Committee demanded that Lula was allowed to participate in the election but that demand was ignored.

Whatever systematic corruption Lula may have actually participated in he has yet to stand trial for that and it's very clear that the justice system is rotten to the core. Sergio Moro, the corruption-fighting judge and prosecutor in Lula's case, later accepted a position in Bolsenaro's government and seems to be comfortable with Bolsenaro's family members' apparent connections to organized crime and money laundering.

https://www.change.org/p/to-supporters-of-democracy-and-social-justice-throughout-the-world-lula-da-silva-is-a-political-prisoner-free-lula
Quote
Three hundred academics and public intellectuals joined to launch a manifesto entitled “Lula da Silva is a political prisoner. #FreeLula!,” denouncing the detention of the former Brazilian president and current Presidential candidate Lula da Silva. The petition discusses in detail the arbitrary nature of the trial conducted by Judge Sergio Moro against Lula da Silva, stating that he is nothing less than a political prisoner. The document asserts that the international community should treat him as such and demands his immediate release.

The manifesto is supported by world-famous legal scholars, such as Karl Klare, Friedrich Müller, António José Avelãs Nunes and Jonathan Simon. Eminent researchers of law and lawfare, such as John Comaroff, Eve Darian-Smith, Tamar Herzog and Elizabeth Mertz, champion the manifesto. International labor lawyers and trade unionists, such as Stanley Gacek, also support it.

Additionally, the petition is backed by world-renowned public intellectuals like Tariq Ali, Robert Brenner, Wendy Brown, Noam Chomsky, Angela Davis, Axel Honneth, Fredric R. Jameson, Leonardo Padura, Carole Pateman, Thomas Piketty, Boaventura de Sousa Santos and Slavoj Žižek.

Leading sociologists as Fred Block, Mark Blyth, Michael Burawoy, Peter Evans, Neil Fligstein, Marion Fourcade, Leo Panitch, Frances Fox Piven, Michael Heinrich, Michael Löwy, Laura Nader, Erik Olin Wright, Dylan Riley, Ananya Roy, Wolfgang Streeck, Göran Therborn, Michael J. Watts and Suzi Weissman also have signed the petition.

The manifesto is embraced by famous specialists and directors of research centers on Latin American Studies like Alex Borucki, Aviva Chomsky, Brodwyn Fischer, Barbara Fritz, James N. Green, Victoria Langland, Mara Loveman, Carlos Marichal, Teresa A. Meade, Tianna Paschel, Erika Robb Larkins, Aaron Schneider, Stanley J. Stein and Barbara Weinstein.

Moreover, the petition is endorsed by distinguished economists like Dean Baker, Ha-Joon Chang, Giovanni Dosi, Gérard Duménil, Gary Dymski, Geoffrey Hodgson, Costas Lapavitsas, Marc Lavoie, Thomas Palley, Robert Pollin, Pierre Salama, Guy Standing, Robert H. Wade and Mark Weisbrot.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on February 27, 2019, 05:51:29 pm
(https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/3d9235af90c7c65afd2d4ea05730953130f53b2e/0_0_941_577/master/941.jpg?width=940&quality=85&auto=format&fit=max&s=7aa9fea371ef4604d1f1e69d5321894f)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Id82 on February 27, 2019, 07:18:18 pm
Is Trump farting on the earth?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on February 27, 2019, 09:14:17 pm
Yep, I think it's meant to represent global warming.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: niam2023 on February 27, 2019, 09:22:50 pm
Trump: I am literally twice the dictator you will EVER be Jong Un.

Kim Jong Un: But I have a personality cult! You're only liked above 50% in 17 states!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Id82 on February 28, 2019, 12:42:34 am
Kim Jun Un: People have to like me, or I put them to death.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on March 06, 2019, 04:50:05 am
This is a great cartoon, but not for the reason the author thinks:

(https://images.theweek.com/sites/default/files/bg030419dapr.jpg?resize=807x807)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: DarkPhoenix on March 06, 2019, 06:17:30 pm
This is a great cartoon, but not for the reason the author thinks:

(https://images.theweek.com/sites/default/files/bg030419dapr.jpg?resize=807x807)

I have a gut feeling that the author doesn't realize most of those are both illegal and very good reasons to impeach a President...
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on March 14, 2019, 06:33:45 pm
Fuck I love Garrison, also he draws a banging Kamala Harris:

(https://grrrgraphics.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/siren_song_of_socialism-blood-1024x745.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Id82 on March 14, 2019, 08:41:13 pm
That just makes Trump look like an old fuddy duddy that doesn't like fun.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: niam2023 on March 15, 2019, 04:43:07 am
Also, again with the VENICE WHALERS. I swear, they hold up Venezuela like its the only left wing country in existence.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Art Vandelay on March 15, 2019, 04:45:44 am
Any attention drawn to Venezuela is attention drawn away from Norway and Sweden.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on March 15, 2019, 05:16:44 am
Also, again with the VENICE WHALERS. I swear, they hold up Venezuela like its the only left wing country in existence.

Don't forget Cuba and North Korea (though a bit less on that last one now that Trump and Un are buddies).
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Chaos Undivided on March 15, 2019, 10:01:16 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D1sfAfLUgAAhiPg.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Kanzenkankaku on March 16, 2019, 06:27:12 am
Not to mention the lengths they're all going to make Venezuela look so much worse than it is. Like the fake news about torching those aid trucks

http://stocktalkjournal.com/greenwald-coordinated-lie-over-maduro-burning-aid-trucks-reveals-how-fake-news-spreads/
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Chaos Undivided on March 16, 2019, 11:40:33 am
Not to mention the lengths they're all going to make Venezuela look so much worse than it is. Like the fake news about torching those aid trucks

http://stocktalkjournal.com/greenwald-coordinated-lie-over-maduro-burning-aid-trucks-reveals-how-fake-news-spreads/

Um, the link is broken.

But yeah, Venezuela's in a bad enough situation that you don't need to make shit up to make it seem worse.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on March 16, 2019, 01:30:44 pm
Not to mention the lengths they're all going to make Venezuela look so much worse than it is. Like the fake news about torching those aid trucks

http://stocktalkjournal.com/greenwald-coordinated-lie-over-maduro-burning-aid-trucks-reveals-how-fake-news-spreads/

Um, the link is broken.

But yeah, Venezuela's in a bad enough situation that you don't need to make shit up to make it seem worse.

It's less that they're trying to make Venezuela look worse than it is as that they're trying to make Maduro look worse than he is.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Kanzenkankaku on March 19, 2019, 07:00:04 am
Not to mention the lengths they're all going to make Venezuela look so much worse than it is. Like the fake news about torching those aid trucks

http://stocktalkjournal.com/greenwald-coordinated-lie-over-maduro-burning-aid-trucks-reveals-how-fake-news-spreads/

Um, the link is broken.

But yeah, Venezuela's in a bad enough situation that you don't need to make shit up to make it seem worse.

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-03-10/greenwald-coordinated-lie-over-maduro-burning-aid-trucks-reveals-how-fake-news
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Chaos Undivided on March 19, 2019, 11:42:15 am
Not to mention the lengths they're all going to make Venezuela look so much worse than it is. Like the fake news about torching those aid trucks

http://stocktalkjournal.com/greenwald-coordinated-lie-over-maduro-burning-aid-trucks-reveals-how-fake-news-spreads/

Um, the link is broken.

But yeah, Venezuela's in a bad enough situation that you don't need to make shit up to make it seem worse.

It's less that they're trying to make Venezuela look worse than it is as that they're trying to make Maduro look worse than he is.

Which is also unnecessary, in my opinion, since the OAS has recommended he be tried for crimes against humanity (https://nationalpost.com/news/politics/canada-introduces-new-sanctions-on-venezuelan-regime-in-wake-of-devastating-report-on-crimes-against-humanity). You don't need to turn him into a mustache-twirling villain.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on March 19, 2019, 04:16:21 pm
Not to mention the lengths they're all going to make Venezuela look so much worse than it is. Like the fake news about torching those aid trucks

http://stocktalkjournal.com/greenwald-coordinated-lie-over-maduro-burning-aid-trucks-reveals-how-fake-news-spreads/

Um, the link is broken.

But yeah, Venezuela's in a bad enough situation that you don't need to make shit up to make it seem worse.

It's less that they're trying to make Venezuela look worse than it is as that they're trying to make Maduro look worse than he is.

Which is also unnecessary, in my opinion, since the OAS has recommended he be tried for crimes against humanity (https://nationalpost.com/news/politics/canada-introduces-new-sanctions-on-venezuelan-regime-in-wake-of-devastating-report-on-crimes-against-humanity). You don't need to turn him into a mustache-twirling villain.

I wonder when they'll say the same about every post-WWII US President and war crimes (yes, including Carter).
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on March 24, 2019, 09:20:14 pm
Only Garrison could make Trump's continuing attacks on a dead person, the fault of the dead person:

(https://grrrgraphics.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/mccain_unfriendly_ghost-1024x712.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Chaos Undivided on March 27, 2019, 12:52:04 pm
There is no way Cheeto Benito would be so calm in this situation.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on March 27, 2019, 01:09:46 pm
It's Garrison, Trump is always calmer than his enemies.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on March 28, 2019, 06:56:14 pm
As much as I love Garrison, if he starts coming after Australia I'm going to have to bludgeon him to death with my cock:

(https://grrrgraphics.com/the-australian-freedom-force/)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on March 28, 2019, 06:57:15 pm
As much as I love Garrison, if he starts coming after Australia I'm going to have to bludgeon him to death with my cock:

(https://grrrgraphics.com/the-australian-freedom-force/)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on March 28, 2019, 07:43:24 pm
(https://grrrgraphics.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/australian_force_cartoon-1024x752.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Kanzenkankaku on March 28, 2019, 10:51:48 pm
look at all those internet nobodies and fraudulent hucksters!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Skybison on March 29, 2019, 01:18:48 am
Kent Heckenlively et al is hurting Australia and trampling it underfoot, but the fool doesn't realize that Cthulhu sleeps beneath the island continent and will soon rise up and devour him and his buddies alive.  Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu Austarilia wgah'nagl fhtagn

A good cartoon
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on March 29, 2019, 04:17:16 am
...Andrew Wakefield? He's actually promoting the guy who accidentally started the Antivaxx movement with his fraudulent study and then started to make money with it because he's a total piece of shit that cares more about money than the lives he is risking?

Granted that everyone that I recognize in that comic is an asshole of some sort but you'd think that even Ben has some standards. But sure, hop on the Antivaxx train Benny boy, might as well support every wrong cause while rather than just most of them.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on March 29, 2019, 07:42:41 pm
(https://i0.wp.com/leftycartoons.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/23/2019/03/get-off-my-side-left-bigotry-1.png)

I take some issue with the third panel, since the laughter is over the hypocrisy of bashing gays while being gay, but more with the sixth, since gun companies advertise with stuff like this:

(https://www.ammoland.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/bushmaster-man-card-banner.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RavynousHunter on March 30, 2019, 12:05:41 am
If Trump is fat, then I have my own gravitational pull.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on April 03, 2019, 06:24:07 pm
This is actually really insightful but not for the reason the author thinks:

(https://images.theweek.com/sites/default/files/stg040319_color.jpg?resize=807x807)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: DarkPhoenix on April 03, 2019, 11:35:56 pm
This is actually really insightful but not for the reason the author thinks:

(https://images.theweek.com/sites/default/files/stg040319_color.jpg?resize=807x807)

Yeah, it's a great reminder of just how many red flags the Republicans and their supporters have completely ignored in their quest for unchecked power and to "stick it to the libruls!"
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Skybison on April 08, 2019, 01:49:59 am
(https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/308/663/e89.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on April 09, 2019, 02:21:52 am
Fuck I love Garrison, also he draws a banging Kamala Harris:

(https://grrrgraphics.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/siren_song_of_socialism-blood-1024x745.jpg)

OK having another look at this - Garrison really finds Kamala Harris hot. He draws her hotter than Tulsi Gabbard and don't get me wrong Ms Harris is fucking gorgeous but Ms Gabbard is a stone cold fox. I don't agree with Gabbard's politics but she's got actual glamour looks.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Chaos Undivided on April 09, 2019, 09:48:34 am
Fuck I love Garrison, also he draws a banging Kamala Harris:

(https://grrrgraphics.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/siren_song_of_socialism-blood-1024x745.jpg)

OK having another look at this - Garrison really finds Kamala Harris hot. He draws her hotter than Tulsi Gabbard and don't get me wrong Ms Harris is fucking gorgeous but Ms Gabbard is a stone cold fox. I don't agree with Gabbard's politics but she's got actual glamour looks.

"Stupid sexy Harris" - Ben Garrison, probably.

On another note, why isn't Trump affected by the song? Does he have his ears plugged, like Odysseus' crew? That would explain a lot, but I'm not sure it's what Garrison wants to imply.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on April 09, 2019, 10:05:52 am
Because Trump is like a smart person who knows better than to be seduced by socialism.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Chaos Undivided on April 09, 2019, 10:19:47 am
Because Trump is like a smart person who knows better than to be seduced by socialism.

A stable genius, if you will.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Id82 on April 09, 2019, 12:16:52 pm
He knows all the best words and only hires the very best to work for him.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on April 09, 2019, 05:48:28 pm
It's because Trump is secretly gay. Either that or Trump has a melanin meter in his cock.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on April 09, 2019, 06:08:12 pm
It's because Trump is secretly gay. Either that or Trump has a melanin meter in his cock.

Partly that (Ben Carson and Herman Cain notwithstanding) and partly a cash magnet--his Cabinet, at the outset, was the richest in history (https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/03/09/trump-wealthiest-cabinet-members-217336).
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Chaos Undivided on April 09, 2019, 06:45:32 pm
Still, I guess Garrison deserves some props for not depicting sirens as mermaids.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Chaos Undivided on April 17, 2019, 03:47:41 pm
(https://media.timesfreepress.com/img/photos/2019/04/16/190417sucker5933620231_t755_h6ecd6b6a33a48a0c402ed2cb7e9fe8d9889b88f3.jpg)

It's nice to see a cartoon that doesn't feel the need to label everything.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Id82 on April 17, 2019, 04:02:57 pm
Because there's only one thing to label and it's labeled?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on April 17, 2019, 04:28:46 pm
Because there's only one thing to label and it's labeled?

And even then, not really.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Chaos Undivided on May 03, 2019, 11:42:46 am
(https://i.imgur.com/koEZd1o.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on May 05, 2019, 02:06:03 am
(https://preview.redd.it/zvggns6dfaw21.png?width=1024&auto=webp&s=208e0ce6c717e317235c8a6adfce0f882eab1e53)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: niam2023 on May 05, 2019, 03:05:50 am
Geez just looking at that fucker makes me wanna give him a wedgie and hook it on something.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Tolpuddle Martyr on May 08, 2019, 04:06:06 am
(https://i1.wp.com/freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/files/2019/05/debate-me-cowards-civil-disagreement.jpg?resize=768%2C745&ssl=1)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on May 27, 2019, 03:15:49 am
(http://theweek.com/cartoons/842989/political-cartoon-children-cages-immigrants-prolife-abortion-alabama)

Because I can't make it work, here's the link: https://theweek.com/cartoons/842989/political-cartoon-children-cages-immigrants-prolife-abortion-alabama (https://theweek.com/cartoons/842989/political-cartoon-children-cages-immigrants-prolife-abortion-alabama)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: fluffyDbringer on May 27, 2019, 09:05:11 am
nah see they can't save that life in a misogynist way so what's the point, really
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on May 27, 2019, 06:11:14 pm
Let's see if I can make it work:

(https://static.politico.com/dims4/default/46a8eb3/2147483647/resize/1160x%3E/quality/90/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fstatic.politico.com%2Fe9%2Fb3%2F48066a6b4dcbac20f2443aa1719d%2F1-rob-rogers-andrews-mcmeel-syndicate.jpg)

And:

(https://static.politico.com/dims4/default/74753ee/2147483647/resize/1160x%3E/quality/90/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fstatic.politico.com%2Fe0%2F73%2F5cedaa624944a4734a1d150fda8b%2F10-bill-bramhall-ny-daily-news-and-tribune-synidcate.jpg)

(https://static.politico.com/dims4/default/888466c/2147483647/resize/1160x%3E/quality/90/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fstatic.politico.com%2F59%2Fe4%2Ff760674d49f7af326b560218b42e%2F5-matt-davies-newsday-and-andrews-mcmeel-syndicate.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Chaos Undivided on May 28, 2019, 01:23:15 pm
(https://www.ocregister.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/214472_6001.jpg?w=600)

TBH, I find this a little offensive. Sharks rarely attack humans deliberately.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on June 03, 2019, 05:59:35 pm
(http://theweek.com/cartoons/844988/political-cartoon-farming-treasury-tariffs-trade-war)

Here is the link https://theweek.com/cartoons/844988/political-cartoon-farming-treasury-tariffs-trade-war (https://theweek.com/cartoons/844988/political-cartoon-farming-treasury-tariffs-trade-war)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on June 04, 2019, 05:54:39 pm
Hope this works because Steve Bell is amazing:

(https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/f7e9d985959ee3c9238bec8d6d8f493e55d8e2b2/0_3_941_565/master/941.jpg?width=940&quality=85&auto=format&fit=max&s=febef0b454411cdf4c7686de282e07af)

And Brexit was all about saving the NHS, how about that - this one is Martin Rawson:

(https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/f56c21ddaf7c29289bc9ff35c469e90cd4ab9add/0_0_4885_2963/master/4885.jpg?width=940&quality=85&auto=format&fit=max&s=89ff9a02c8a7d3bc78a6cef37046c388)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Chaos Undivided on June 04, 2019, 06:44:59 pm
Hope this works because Steve Bell is amazing:

(https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/f7e9d985959ee3c9238bec8d6d8f493e55d8e2b2/0_3_941_565/master/941.jpg?width=940&quality=85&auto=format&fit=max&s=febef0b454411cdf4c7686de282e07af)

And Brexit was all about saving the NHS, how about that - this one is Martin Rawson:

(https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/f56c21ddaf7c29289bc9ff35c469e90cd4ab9add/0_0_4885_2963/master/4885.jpg?width=940&quality=85&auto=format&fit=max&s=89ff9a02c8a7d3bc78a6cef37046c388)

They're working fine, at least for me.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: niam2023 on June 04, 2019, 08:18:40 pm
How fantastically grotesque.

It really sells how gross Trump and his toadies are.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Chaos Undivided on June 04, 2019, 11:01:24 pm
(https://www.cartoonmovement.com/depot/cartoons/2019/06/04/30_th_anniversary_of_massacre_os_tiananmen__marian_kamensky.jpeg)

(https://www.rfa.org/english/cartoons/Tiananmen-cartoon-06012018122942.html/180601RFA-June4.jpg)

(https://tnimage.taiwannews.com.tw/photos/2019/06/03/1559538187-5cf4aa0b57e67.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: chad sexington on June 06, 2019, 05:20:07 am
Hope this works because Steve Bell is amazing:

(https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/f7e9d985959ee3c9238bec8d6d8f493e55d8e2b2/0_3_941_565/master/941.jpg?width=940&quality=85&auto=format&fit=max&s=febef0b454411cdf4c7686de282e07af)


I haven't been keeping up with British politoons - who does Noddy represent?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on June 06, 2019, 06:42:55 pm
I think it is Jeremy Hunt.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on June 07, 2019, 04:53:44 am
(https://images.dailykos.com/images/681085/large/large1?1559240627)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on June 09, 2019, 07:36:55 pm
Because I suck:

https://www.politico.com/gallery/2019/06/07/the-nations-cartoonists-on-the-week-in-politics-003185?slide=12 (https://www.politico.com/gallery/2019/06/07/the-nations-cartoonists-on-the-week-in-politics-003185?slide=12)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on June 09, 2019, 10:12:20 pm
(https://static.politico.com/dims4/default/90f40f6/2147483647/resize/1160x%3E/quality/90/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fstatic.politico.com%2Ff8%2F32%2F0ad3f38642f2b197a3ba3b78520e%2F9-m.Wuerker-Politico.jpg)

So utterly, utterly predictable.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: DarkPhoenix on June 09, 2019, 11:51:49 pm
They wouldn't have been able to find it in the first place.  McConnell has never had any integrity.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on June 12, 2019, 09:17:06 pm
(https://i0.wp.com/leftycartoons.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/23/2019/06/abortion-pro-life-reduce-larc-punish-women.png?resize=675%2C689)

Also, McConnell actually does have a bare handful of principles (like Antonin Scalia). He was the critical vote in ensuring that the Flag Desecration Amendment was not forwarded to the states the last time it came to a vote in the Senate. (It failed 66-34.)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on June 24, 2019, 05:54:05 pm
(https://static.politico.com/dims4/default/630ae94/2147483647/resize/1160x%3E/quality/90/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fstatic.politico.com%2Fb3%2F7b%2F25b72f704be7a333293ec762122f%2F1-dave-whamond-canada-politicalcartoons.com.jpg)

(https://static.politico.com/dims4/default/207d474/2147483647/resize/1160x%3E/quality/90/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fstatic.politico.com%2F17%2Ffb%2F0222960f4b588a4b744cb54e1c9c%2F1-matt-davies-newsday-and-andrews-mcmeel-syndicate.jpg)

(https://static.politico.com/dims4/default/3f3cd4d/2147483647/resize/1160x%3E/quality/90/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fstatic.politico.com%2F70%2F2a%2Fd7fc6b9d4a29b54439697dfdf3b0%2F6-joel-pett-lexington-herald-leader.jpg)

(https://static.politico.com/dims4/default/7c08658/2147483647/resize/1160x%3E/quality/90/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fstatic.politico.com%2F9e%2F3f%2F7bec895a46818fe3557e905fa6d3%2F9-tom-tomorrow.jpg)

(https://static.politico.com/dims4/default/0c26e52/2147483647/resize/1160x%3E/quality/90/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fstatic.politico.com%2Ffe%2F37%2F6369f36548fdbc55bc2f509426c0%2F11-matt-davies-newsday-and-andrews-mcmell.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on July 01, 2019, 01:35:01 am
(https://static.politico.com/dims4/default/019a7b9/2147483647/resize/1160x%3E/quality/90/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fstatic.politico.com%2F26%2Feb%2Ffdcb9b0747beb60cf9b303bf8b93%2F10-matt-bors-andrews-mcmeel-syndicate.jpg)

(https://static.politico.com/dims4/default/8128748/2147483647/resize/1160x%3E/quality/90/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fstatic.politico.com%2Fad%2F61%2F55be40f0465aa02ea1f9dc357546%2F9-darrin-bell-counterpoint.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: DarkPhoenix on July 01, 2019, 02:34:51 am
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/lxiwpga6cj04nnr/de-adder-play-through.jpg)

Also, this particular comic got its artist fired, because apparently the owner of the paper it was printed in, one of the richest men in Canada, is a big fan of the Giant Orange Turd... (https://crooksandliars.com/2019/06/canadian-cartoonist-fired-after-his-trump)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on July 01, 2019, 02:47:13 am
Well I hope Dave Rubin stands up for his Freedom of Speech.

That's a fucking powerful cartoon
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: fluffyDbringer on July 01, 2019, 06:51:03 am
that would require rubin to actually care about free speech, or any principle for that matter that isn't "fuck you got mine"
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: ironbite on July 01, 2019, 04:18:06 pm
Also it's a Canadian publication so.....
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Id82 on July 02, 2019, 08:51:16 am
I don't think Trump would even ask if they would mind. He would just do it.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on July 07, 2019, 06:05:59 pm
Because I can't do images:

https://www.politico.com/gallery/2019/07/05/the-nations-cartoonists-on-the-week-in-politics-003210?slide=6 (https://www.politico.com/gallery/2019/07/05/the-nations-cartoonists-on-the-week-in-politics-003210?slide=6)

https://www.politico.com/gallery/2019/07/05/the-nations-cartoonists-on-the-week-in-politics-003210?slide=8 (https://www.politico.com/gallery/2019/07/05/the-nations-cartoonists-on-the-week-in-politics-003210?slide=8)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on July 10, 2019, 12:37:57 am
Garrison is Fantastic, he's the only guy who reckons that Trump is keen to bring down his friend Eppstein:

(https://grrrgraphics.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/epstein_cartoon.jpg)

Quote
Herd ’em up, move ’em out, lock ’em up

Update:
Barr will not recuse himself from Epstein prosecution: Official

Jefferey Epstein, the billionaire pedophile, looks like he will finally face justice.

A lot of his friends and associates are most likely very nervous right now, but anyone who abused children with him need to be exposed and prosecuted. This will be much bigger than the NXIVM sex scandal.
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The biggest name has to be Bill Clinton, who made over two dozen trips to Little St. James Island aboard Epsteins’s private jet known as the ‘Lolita Express.’ Hillary is also involved and one can only hope that this latest scandal will finally end another possible run for the presidency.

It’s time to expose all involved and also investigate the evidence on his private island. He has a demonic structure atop a hill and dungeons below. These people worship Satan. It’s all sick and disgusting.

Also disgusting is the FakeNews corporate media trying to frame President Trump as Epstein’s best buddy when in fact Trump banned him from Mar a Lago when he found out what Epstein was. Trump also voluntarily released info about the pedophile to the FBI.

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Let’s hope Epstein’s arrest signals the start of justice for the Deep State Swamp criminals.

Kudos to Mike Cernovich for his lawsuit that forced the release of information related to Epstein’s case. It shows that citizen activists and journalists can effect change.

—Ben Garrison
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on July 10, 2019, 03:47:33 am
In fairness, what happened with Jeffrey Epstein was a disgusting example of how rich white people can get away with heinous crimes.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Tolpuddle Martyr on July 12, 2019, 07:20:57 pm
(https://i.redd.it/nii0kta8lr931.png)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Id82 on July 12, 2019, 07:30:05 pm
Did he actually say the militia defeated the British by cutting off the airports? Like was that really written into his speech? Or was that something he winged out of his orange ass like he usually does?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: ironbite on July 12, 2019, 08:42:26 pm
He's claiming something fucked up on the teleprompter but I'm pretty sure his dementia riddled mind pulled it out of his ass.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on July 13, 2019, 03:52:19 am
On Reddit some teacher had a good explanation for why Trump's speech is the way it is and how this particular mistake came to happen.

Trump hates reading. He is not very good at reading and because of that it is a task that takes a lot more energy out of him than it does for the average person. So he avoids reading as much as possible, we know this even causes White house briefings to have been redone in as little text as possible. He also has a much smaller vocabulary than the average person and when he comes across new words he has no idea how to pronounce them. At one point he had been talking about the "oranges" of the Mueller investigation because he did not recognize the word "origins" and therefore while repeating a comment someone else had said about the report his mind replaced the difficult word "origins" with a more familiar one. Similarly, when reading the teleprompter, Trump did not recognize the word "ramparts" and therefore he replaced with "airports" as it was a word he knew and which is a bit similar.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RavynousHunter on July 13, 2019, 01:38:47 pm
So, he's almost illiterate and has the vocabulary of a preschooler.  How the god damned shit does he function?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Id82 on July 13, 2019, 01:56:53 pm
But he has the best words.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: ironbite on July 13, 2019, 04:14:54 pm
So, he's almost illiterate and has the vocabulary of a preschooler.  How the god damned shit does he function?

He barely does.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Tolpuddle Martyr on July 13, 2019, 10:25:40 pm
So, he's almost illiterate and has the vocabulary of a preschooler.  How the god damned shit does he function?

He barely does.
I'd say with his hostile takeover of the US court system, transfer of wealth upwards and undermining of the electoral system, academia and the third estate he's functioning exactly as the GOP wants.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on July 13, 2019, 10:45:30 pm
So, he's almost illiterate and has the vocabulary of a preschooler.  How the god damned shit does he function?

Crushed up adderal, snorted off Kelly-Anne Conway's chin
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on July 13, 2019, 11:17:12 pm
Garrison (unfortunately even with the labels I don't really understand who everyone is meant to be in this): - Edit: Spoilered because huge

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on July 14, 2019, 12:59:15 am
"The Three Amigos" is a term often used to refer to the Presidents of the United States and Mexico and the Prime Minister of Canada, especially post-NAFTA.

In this case, it's referring to the three most recent Democratic Governors of California (Gray Davis, Jerry Brown, and Gavin Newsom, with 2003-2011 having seen a Republican, Arnold Schwarzenegger, in office).

Garrison is claiming that their policies, moving farther and farther left with higher taxes and even higher spending, are driving the state toward economic ruin, and that the Amigos are ignoring the warnings of the MAGA crowd.

Further, he claims that California is offering Central American immigrants "free stuff" with an open door in The Wall, and that they're harming the bear (on the state flag) with mandatory vaccinations, and that their strict gun control has effectively voided the Second Amendment within the state.

There's a sanctuary city in the distance, and the MAGA people are trying to escape the devastating tide by hiding behind rocks.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on July 14, 2019, 01:37:15 am
Whose the blonde lady though?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Eiki-mun on July 14, 2019, 02:19:01 am
As a Californian myself, that cartoon can go fuck itself. We're doing fine. We're certainly doing a hell of a lot better than fucking Idaho, my last residence before I moved down here.

Also, remind me which set of policies led to economic ruin - the Democratic policies of California, or the Republican policies of Oklahoma? I seem to remember Oklahoma all but collapsing under right-wing rule.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: DarkPhoenix on July 14, 2019, 02:37:40 am
As a Californian myself, that cartoon can go fuck itself. We're doing fine. We're certainly doing a hell of a lot better than fucking Idaho, my last residence before I moved down here.

Also, remind me which set of policies led to economic ruin - the Democratic policies of California, or the Republican policies of Oklahoma? I seem to remember Oklahoma all but collapsing under right-wing rule.

Oklahoma is collapsing, not only from stupid right-wing rule, but from the massive number of earthquakes now occurring there thanks to the right-wing government allowing the Koch brothers to go nuts with fracking.  Kansas is bankrupt, and the new Democratic governor has her hands full trying to reverse the previous Republican regime's insane policies so that the state can get back to not being broke.  Alabama almost voted a pedophile in to represent them in the Senate, and there's a good chance they vote him in this time, because he's "biblical".  The new Republican governor in Georgia was the attorney general of the state during the election, and threw 30,000 voters off the voting rolls for reasons he invented out of thin air, which is likely how he managed to win (the difference was way less than that).  Missouri and Mississippi are in a game of "which state can show how much they hate women more via law?".  And it goes on and on...

But they always insist California is failing.  They can't point at anything in particular that proves California is failing, they just insist that it is...
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: SCarpelan on July 14, 2019, 02:59:37 am
Aren't there a lot of brown people in California and most people vote Democrat? That proves the whole state must be a mess.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: niam2023 on July 14, 2019, 04:09:48 am
They insist the fall is coming soon, always soon, never with a date, just always...soon. While we prosper and the conservative states choke on their own bile. As it should be.

Also surprised that he didn't include Ahnold on that bear - considering how critical Der Governator is of Trump, and how he's a "RINO" - advocating fighting climate change and separating church from state.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on July 14, 2019, 02:01:40 pm
Whose the blonde lady though?

Not sure, honestly. The only FOX host I know to live in California is Tucker Carlson, because he's made a point of saying so, but it could be, perhaps, Laura Ingraham.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on July 16, 2019, 07:11:36 pm
(https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/4cce337f0413683b920dc7090c3715907691d86b/0_0_941_573/master/941.jpg?width=940&quality=85&auto=format&fit=max&s=153cff15a6b01efc5872c4fd0a916e3f)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on July 17, 2019, 04:12:15 pm
(http://www.angryflower.com/kindoflogicCOLOR.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on July 17, 2019, 05:39:26 pm
Should have labelled him as Jimmy Dore.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on July 18, 2019, 05:45:55 am
Should have labelled him as Jimmy Dore.

I don't know that Dore's ever given an answer (or a straight answer, anyway, not that I've ever heard an answer) to the question, "If you lived in a swing state, would you vote/have voted for Hillary Clinton?"
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: SCarpelan on July 19, 2019, 09:43:18 am
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D_xoom_UcAAkXeo.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RavynousHunter on July 19, 2019, 01:58:14 pm
Its a burning, lowercase "T" for "Get Outta Town."
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: DarkPhoenix on July 20, 2019, 01:45:27 am
Thumbs up for perfectly capturing that slimebag Mitch McConnell.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Kanzenkankaku on July 20, 2019, 05:41:11 am
McConnel is the turtle one right?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: DarkPhoenix on July 21, 2019, 03:25:10 am
McConnel is the turtle one right?

Yeah, that's him.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on July 22, 2019, 11:12:06 pm
(https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/e036183f105279ad0e4d751491aecc4331612f38/0_0_941_566/master/941.jpg?width=940&quality=85&auto=format&fit=max&s=4829482cd6b0c2cf3234a0a60254e7c8)

(https://images.theweek.com/sites/default/files/lk071919dapr.jpg?resize=807x807)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on July 24, 2019, 05:47:47 pm
Have to link First Dog on the Moon:

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/jul/24/despised-ridiculed-and-unfathomably-incompetent-does-it-really-matter-boris-johnson-is-theuk-pm (https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/jul/24/despised-ridiculed-and-unfathomably-incompetent-does-it-really-matter-boris-johnson-is-theuk-pm)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on August 01, 2019, 07:38:00 pm
Garrison is back and frenetic:

(https://grrrgraphics.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/democratic_debate_august1.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on August 01, 2019, 08:34:34 pm
When Ben Garrison seems to like a Democratic candidate (ie Biden) that's a sign that he probably shouldn't be the Democratic nominee...
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on August 01, 2019, 09:19:37 pm
He doesn't like Biden, can't you see that Biden has his hands open to grope Kamala Harris - Garrison (with a complete absence of self reflection) will decry Biden as a creepy guy who gropes women.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on August 01, 2019, 11:53:17 pm
He doesn't like Biden, can't you see that Biden has his hands open to grope Kamala Harris - Garrison (with a complete absence of self reflection) will decry Biden as a creepy guy who gropes women.

Calling him "Battling Biden" is an indication that he dislikes him less than the other candidates.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Tolpuddle Martyr on August 02, 2019, 03:32:46 am
(https://preview.redd.it/lz9s7mwc9yd31.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=513f9a4f2f9abe5edc7ccb9f866bb21d44583ae7)

Yep.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RavynousHunter on August 03, 2019, 12:27:40 pm
As an experiment, I made a (shitty) edit to the pic to see how it'd be without the dumbass label.  If anything, I've improved it significantly.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on August 03, 2019, 11:31:41 pm
(https://images.theweek.com/sites/default/files/21_political_cartoon_u.s._democrats_moving_too_far_left_one_percent_rich_scale_-_tom_toles_universal.jpg?resize=807x807)

(https://static.politico.com/dims4/default/224248f/2147483647/resize/1160x%3E/quality/90/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fstatic.politico.com%2F7e%2Faa%2F55c38c0d4379bf4e5236baa0440a%2F12-clay-bennett-washington-post-writers-group-and-cartoonist-group.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Id82 on August 03, 2019, 11:39:50 pm
Man, I'm visiting my in laws and my father in law has fox news on blasting from his living room and Hannity was lying that the Democrats don't have a centrist to far left problem. They have a far left to extreme left problem. It's scary to think that the country is so titled to the right that centrists positions are considered to be radical, and that fox news is misinforming  their viewers with such extreme language.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on August 04, 2019, 12:20:56 am
The US isn't tilted far to the right. On economic and foreign policy, at least, the centre of the US is Bernie Sanders. It's the halls of the legislatures and executive offices that are tilted far to the right.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Kanzenkankaku on August 05, 2019, 07:15:08 am
ChickenInslee is actually right tho, Mr Ben.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on August 06, 2019, 07:24:31 pm
(https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/019e1534f6feb96a273d278bc86f8b44480358eb/0_0_941_575/master/941.jpg?width=940&quality=85&auto=format&fit=max&s=a074af0749ecd5b6937ccdf935540308)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Skybison on August 06, 2019, 10:30:47 pm
When Ben Garrison seems to like a Democratic candidate (ie Biden) that's a sign that he probably shouldn't be the Democratic nominee...

Back in 2016 Ben had a sorta positive opinion of Bernie Sanders, at least in a sense of "he's a well meaning guy who is wrong, not like that crookwhore KILLARY!"

(https://i.pinimg.com/236x/6f/c8/86/6fc8867ad3a812acace0e27c62f3e48d--political-satire-political-cartoons.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Kanzenkankaku on August 07, 2019, 12:50:06 am
Wait, depicting a stuff old lady who always wears pantsuits as a hooker? Ben sure has some odd ideas.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: niam2023 on August 07, 2019, 05:49:58 pm
I honestly think he low key wants to fuck Trump and Hillary both.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on August 07, 2019, 07:24:03 pm
I'm sure he has drawings which involve a tripod trump nailing hillary in a jail cell
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: DarkPhoenix on August 08, 2019, 04:18:42 pm
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/lgwwc8nm7z6az7g/NRA.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on August 10, 2019, 11:06:31 pm
(https://static.politico.com/dims4/default/9c47e0c/2147483647/resize/1160x%3E/quality/90/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fstatic.politico.com%2F14%2F9b%2F8b21ba934db29459e4cf96539be7%2F4-matt-bors-andrews-mcmeel-syndicate.jpg)


(https://static.politico.com/dims4/default/dc13d5d/2147483647/resize/1160x%3E/quality/90/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fstatic.politico.com%2Fda%2F21%2F645be2bd42d799cfd9213543f0c9%2F5-jen-sorensen.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on August 17, 2019, 12:19:31 am
(https://i1.wp.com/leftycartoons.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/23/2019/08/ceos-with-subtitles-union.png?resize=675%2C655)

EDIT: Old-timey Dr. Seuss.

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ee/Dr_Seuss_and_the_wolf_chewed_up_the_children.jpg)

EDIT #2:

(https://i0.wp.com/leftycartoons.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/23/2019/08/everything-is-problematic.png?resize=675%2C902)

To this point, my city passed a resolution declaring, in part:

Quote
Underlying all other truths spoken during the Year of Reconciliation is the truth that the modern city of Vancouver was founded on the traditional territories of the Musqueam, Squamish and Tsleil-Waututh First Nations and that these territories were never ceded through treaty, war or surrender.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on August 18, 2019, 08:06:40 pm
Guess, who's back, yes he's back, Garrison is back:

(https://grrrgraphics.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/mooch_trump_revise-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: niam2023 on August 18, 2019, 08:59:50 pm
Oh boy that pointing out of Trump's dump and run tendencies really pissed Garrison off.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on August 18, 2019, 09:15:08 pm
Scaramucci figured out the great secret to media acceptance, which is to be a Republican willing to give tepid criticism of Trump.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: niam2023 on August 18, 2019, 09:21:11 pm
Fun fact; before trying to get his job, Scaramucci tweeted things in support of Democratic causes and critical of Republicans. So I don't think he's even a Republican at all. Just an opportunist.

And Trump is the very same way. Every single time things turn out badly for him, he cuts and runs when it comes to investments.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on August 18, 2019, 09:50:07 pm
I like it how the Deep State Dragon is modeled on a Chinese rather than a European Dragon. Also weird that Trump seems to have a Spatha or Gladius.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: niam2023 on August 18, 2019, 10:12:44 pm
Its because of the throbbing erotic subtext of anything to do with Ancient Greece.

The only thing Ben Garrison hates more than homosexuals is the fact that he's incredibly gay for Trump.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on August 19, 2019, 03:37:26 am
...The one thing I choose to criticize at this point is that Garrison apparently has no idea how to hold a sword (or any other item for that matter.) Look at their thumbs, they've got them bent in a way that doesn't help them support the sword. Let's add "Garrison doesn't know how to draw human hands interacting with objects" to the list.

(And once again, the only person/thing that isn't labeled is Trump. It's like Garrison doesn't trust that people can recognize the characters he draws.)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RavynousHunter on August 19, 2019, 05:51:57 pm
I need to find a way to automatically remove labels from political cartoons.  I can see it in my head, and its actually a hell of a lot better.

[ETA]

Thank you, nVidia!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on August 19, 2019, 07:36:06 pm
Ravy, seeing as you don't like labels - I give you Steve Bell:

(https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/8bb087c84ae10c525ce29f188f1ff9e06635b9f3/0_0_941_568/master/941.jpg?width=940&quality=85&auto=format&fit=max&s=9bec0ecedaf49b1ccbedf8c284f1a3f4)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RavynousHunter on August 20, 2019, 05:23:09 pm
Absolute beauty.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on August 20, 2019, 07:11:43 pm
(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Id82 on August 20, 2019, 08:17:09 pm
Thanks for the quote bubble Garrison we couldn't tell by the picture.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on August 20, 2019, 08:31:10 pm
Garrison likes to highlight the joke.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Skybison on August 20, 2019, 08:48:50 pm
Bernie Sanders will beat the racists and nothing will stop him.  Not even death will let them escape, he'll track down their ghosts and lay the smackdown on them.

A good cartoon.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on August 20, 2019, 09:26:19 pm
It also portrays trump as a ghost Nazi, basically the return of the bad guys from Raiders of the Lost Ark.

*Tangent - I'm waiting for the alt-righters to pan Wolfenstein and Indiana Jones as antifa pandering propoganda.

Something like this parody:

Quote
Alt-Right to boycott Indiana Jones franchise over ‘subtle’ anti-Nazi themes

Young white man unhappy

Young white men who are members of the Alt-Right movement have decided to boycott all films in the Indiana Jones franchise after learning it carries a hidden anti-Nazi message.

The move comes after leading Alt-Right member Simon Williams was called down from his bedroom by his mum in order watch a nice film with the family.

However, upon watching Raiders of the Lost Ark for the first time in years, he noticed that it is nothing more than a propagandist tool for feminists and snowflakes who don’t like the fact that Donald Trump won and that the UK voted to leave the EU.

He explained, “Raiders is just the latest weapon of the establishment elite to try and make Nazi’s look bad.

“They took all the things the Nazis did and said and put them in a film purely to create a villain for Indy to battle against.  I don’t know why I didn’t see this sooner.

“It’s basically a story about a plucky group of women and ethnics who help the ‘hero’ take victory against the strong white alpha male.

“I’m sick of move studios making films where the bad guys are the people I like and look up to.

“I just want a nice Hollywood blockbuster where the fascist oppressors come off best, is that too much to ask?”
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Kanzenkankaku on August 21, 2019, 01:37:31 am
They already flipped out on Wolfenstein. They've been crying like babies about it since New Colossus, if not New Order.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: DarkPhoenix on August 21, 2019, 01:44:50 am
The guy Garrison keeps pushing as the genius savior of the United States just cancelled a trip to meet with the leaders of Denmark.  Because they won't sell him Greenland.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on August 21, 2019, 03:16:08 am
Note how the Trump supporter is wearing a swastika armband (and the skinhead making a Nazi salute and Hitler as well.) Garrison is past trying to say that Trump isn't racist, now he is fully admitting that Trump and his supporters are white supremacists.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on August 21, 2019, 03:23:46 am
Note how the Trump supporter is wearing a swastika armband (and the skinhead making a Nazi salute and Hitler as well.) Garrison is past trying to say that Trump isn't racist, now he is fully admitting that Trump and his supporters are white supremacists.

That, or since these are ghosts specifically haunting Sanders, they would appear as Sanders (ie "the left") might envision them, that is, as white supremacists, neo-Nazis, and such, which is just further proof of the delusion that Garrison is saying they're under.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on August 25, 2019, 06:42:31 pm
(https://static.politico.com/dims4/default/7bd6f0b/2147483647/resize/1160x%3E/quality/90/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fstatic.politico.com%2F03%2F39%2F7f4a0f1d4b7d820de7c8ed3e1f08%2F6-matt-bors-andrews-mcmeel-syndicate.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on August 25, 2019, 07:51:47 pm
Oh damn, that's good.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Skybison on September 04, 2019, 03:45:33 pm
(https://www.smbc-comics.com/comics/1454430887-20160202.png)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: fluffyDbringer on September 04, 2019, 07:18:09 pm
this would be preferable to centrists who "don't see race" tbh
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: niam2023 on September 04, 2019, 08:41:38 pm
Reminds me due to the bees of SWARM, the NAZI MADE OF BEES.

He's an absolutely real character. He at varying times planned to make a "Bee Reich".
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on September 11, 2019, 06:03:13 pm
Unfortunately I have never figured out how to image post the goodness that is First Dog on the Moon from the Graun, so here is a hyperlink:

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/sep/11/how-actually-dare-people-politicise-the-bushfires-by-claiming-scientifically-its-linked-to-the-climate-crisis (https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/sep/11/how-actually-dare-people-politicise-the-bushfires-by-claiming-scientifically-its-linked-to-the-climate-crisis)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Sigmaleph on September 14, 2019, 01:01:53 pm
Unfortunately I have never figured out how to image post the goodness that is First Dog on the Moon from the Graun, so here is a hyperlink:

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/sep/11/how-actually-dare-people-politicise-the-bushfires-by-claiming-scientifically-its-linked-to-the-climate-crisis (https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/sep/11/how-actually-dare-people-politicise-the-bushfires-by-claiming-scientifically-its-linked-to-the-climate-crisis)

(https://media.guim.co.uk/70ba7fcdb296053c601e974beede2eb49bb83955/0_0_3508_6974/1006.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on October 01, 2019, 09:55:22 pm
(https://www.grrrgraphics.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/commiekazi_attack_on_trump.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on October 01, 2019, 11:38:52 pm
It really says something about how far gone US "conservatism" is when they consider Nancy Pelosi, Jerrold Nadler, and Adam Schiff communists.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: niam2023 on October 02, 2019, 01:51:28 am
Anything left of Center at ALL is communism to these nutbars.

I got called an "Antifa Stooge" for not liking working alongside Q-Anon morons.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on October 02, 2019, 06:34:05 pm
It's effectively devoid of all meaning now.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Vanto on October 16, 2019, 07:13:44 pm
(https://www.gannett-cdn.com/presto/2019/10/15/USAT/fce6bfe5-a0c2-4afc-9c8b-323986056530-2019.10.15-lebron-china.jpg?width=520&height=390&fit=bounds&auto=webp)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on October 21, 2019, 04:54:19 pm
(https://static.politico.com/dims4/default/7e5f7af/2147483647/resize/1160x%3E/quality/90/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fstatic.politico.com%2F8d%2Ffa%2F9b594348404889ba736c02f55f21%2F2-matt-bors-andrews-mcmeel-syndicate.jpg)

(https://static.politico.com/dims4/default/7227784/2147483647/resize/1160x%3E/quality/90/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fstatic.politico.com%2F08%2F6f%2F2d13b7d246a8ad176847c98b56bd%2F6-m.Wuerker-Politico.jpg)

And for the people who hate labels in a political cartoon:

(https://static.politico.com/dims4/default/2b05ec3/2147483647/resize/1160x%3E/quality/90/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fstatic.politico.com%2F04%2Fa4%2Fd1deefe5498997dda84484e58c03%2F12-ann-telnaes-washington-post.jpg)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EHk7fWgWoAEbMsD.jpg:large)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Vanto on October 26, 2019, 05:16:19 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/gdeFr4j.jpg)

One of my homies says making fun of mass shooters might have positive effects. I see where he's coming from, but I'm not sure if I agree. What do you think?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Eiki-mun on October 26, 2019, 05:54:41 pm
Honestly that's hilarious. I love it.

And I'd say the line of thought makes sense. There's only one way to get to an alt-righter, and that's to mock them. Make it clear to them how *stupid and silly* you find them.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Vanto on October 26, 2019, 11:35:14 pm
Honestly that's hilarious. I love it.

And I'd say the line of thought makes sense. There's only one way to get to an alt-righter, and that's to mock them. Make it clear to them how *stupid and silly* you find them.

I share the sentiment, but it's not necessarily about ideology. The idea is to "de-glamorize" mass shooters through mockery, since a lot of people say the media hyping up shooters only creates more shooters.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Tolpuddle Martyr on November 03, 2019, 07:42:18 am
As batshit as the man is, I rather enjoy the batshittery of Ben Garrison.

(https://i.redd.it/0j8gjvxl3fw31.jpg)

Without further ado, another deep dive in the the sweaty depths of the Garrison brain.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Id82 on November 03, 2019, 09:15:29 am
Conspiracy theories, straw men and labels galore. Yup checks out. He might as well just write things down on a peace of note book paper and not bother drawing if he's going to label everything.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on November 03, 2019, 05:17:27 pm
(https://static.politico.com/dims4/default/ed156f4/2147483647/resize/1160x%3E/quality/90/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fstatic.politico.com%2Fec%2Ffa%2Fbe7cbe4b4e2ca464b0e84df7b381%2F7-ward-sutton.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on November 09, 2019, 07:55:08 pm
(https://static.politico.com/dims4/default/964dfd0/2147483647/resize/1160x%3E/quality/90/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fstatic.politico.com%2Fce%2F13%2F4c0a7d0d4182a1e21375433da0ba%2F1-darrin-bell-king-features.jpg)

Ramirez is still a massive hack, and he's arse about on this but this is one of his better cartoons.

(https://static.politico.com/dims4/default/8ff3079/2147483647/resize/1160x%3E/quality/90/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fstatic.politico.com%2Fcd%2F16%2F788b661747639c3629ee1139dca5%2F9-michael-ramirez-creators.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Skybison on November 10, 2019, 10:53:46 am
from spurious correlations.com

(http://tylervigen.com/images/spurious-correlations-share.png)

(https://www.tylervigen.com/chart-pngs/14.png)

(https://sadanduseless.b-cdn.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/stats-divorce.png)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on November 13, 2019, 04:25:43 pm
This is actually really good:

(https://images.theweek.com/sites/default/files/20191111edjwc-a.jpg?resize=807x807)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on November 15, 2019, 02:30:21 am
...What is that supposed to mean?

Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Skybison on November 15, 2019, 09:25:19 am
Rich people are stealing what should belong to the poor, like Goldilocks stole the three bears food, and throwing a fit over the idea of democrats making them stop because they are entitled spoiled children in adult bodies.  They are also too stupid to understand that if they don't stop and share like the dems say they should, eventually the bears will snap and eat them.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on November 15, 2019, 09:45:02 am
Not all of them are that blind. You can find articles by Nick Hanauer, for instance, warning that if the rich don't a) pay higher taxes and b) pay higher wages, the only other outcome is the torches and pitchforks.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: DarkPhoenix on November 15, 2019, 08:13:58 pm
Yeah, I read those articles.  The ones where he points out history has tended to work out one way when the guys with all the power repeatedly step on everybody else?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on November 16, 2019, 07:07:46 pm
Which is why political cartoonists overuse labels.

Here's some which are good but doesn't leave much room for thought:

(https://static.politico.com/dims4/default/1b2b77a/2147483647/resize/1160x%3E/quality/90/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fstatic.politico.com%2Fae%2Fac%2F975d38d9429688e69d165be78e50%2F1-tom-tomorrow.jpg)

(https://static.politico.com/dims4/default/1bba80d/2147483647/resize/1160x%3E/quality/90/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fstatic.politico.com%2Fe6%2F67%2Fc98a65044463a16565a6c8466815%2F7-kal-counterpoint.jpg)

(https://static.politico.com/dims4/default/145a538/2147483647/resize/1160x%3E/quality/90/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fstatic.politico.com%2Fec%2F56%2Ff917a20841e6ae114f71e7054c34%2F14-matt-bors-andrews-mcmeel-syndicate.jpg)

And one without labels which should be understandable:

(https://static.politico.com/dims4/default/7321b19/2147483647/resize/1160x%3E/quality/90/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fstatic.politico.com%2F74%2Fa2%2Fa65c4e2f4da8a517d2aca0e7dd7d%2F16-ann-telnaes-washington-post.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: niam2023 on November 19, 2019, 11:14:14 pm
Rudy Ghouliana: I vant to suck up to za President!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on November 20, 2019, 05:25:44 pm
Ben Garrison is out of his mind:

 (https://grrrgraphics.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/ukraine_cookie_jar.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Id82 on November 20, 2019, 05:56:29 pm
This doesn't even make any sense. I mean Donald Trump is no where near in that kind of shape.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: niam2023 on November 20, 2019, 06:36:47 pm
Ben Garrison is in a very very orange closet.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: DarkPhoenix on November 20, 2019, 07:22:53 pm
It takes some SEVERE dedication to not wanting to hear the truth to be that 100% wrong about EVERYTHING...
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on November 22, 2019, 09:47:00 pm
(https://static.politico.com/dims4/default/aa55b93/2147483647/resize/1160x%3E/quality/90/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fstatic.politico.com%2F47%2F96%2Faa6dff9c4b55bc64a504c9f627ba%2F13-matt-bors-andrews-mcmeel-syndicate.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on November 26, 2019, 06:59:31 pm
Sorry for the double post but Garrison:

(https://grrrgraphics.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/bloomberg_cartoon.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: niam2023 on November 26, 2019, 08:15:25 pm
Oh joy Bloomberg - if there was anyone whose political career makes him like a vampire aside from Ghouliani, it's Bloomberg.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on November 26, 2019, 10:16:15 pm
Apparently Bloomberg's day-one ad buy cost $34,000,000.

He's not even bothering to try to get into the debates (since for that he'd need lots of individual donors), he's just trying to blanket himself across the media and drown out everyone else that way.

Bets on whether he runs as an independent should Sanders happen to win the Democratic nomination?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Kanzenkankaku on November 28, 2019, 03:22:37 am
Garrison has to shoehorn in that climate denial but otherwise that was probably one of his best ones in recent memory. Fuck Bloomberg and the billions of dollars he rode in on.

It reminds me of this one a friend showed me, which was pretty good.
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/268578761492922369/648396341021638676/8974254_orig.png)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on November 30, 2019, 08:46:30 pm
Speaking of wanting a body but not liking their politics, we bring you another episode of Garrison being super straight for Trump:

(https://grrrgraphics.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/trump_weightlifter.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on November 30, 2019, 11:42:14 pm
The only good thing about Trump's Presidency is how he's exposed every other elected Republican as a cowering bitch.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Kanzenkankaku on November 30, 2019, 11:43:48 pm
Yeah even the ones like Bill Weld or w/e trying to primary him are pretty weak and wimpy because they really aren't that loud about their message or how they'd be substantially different at all.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: DarkPhoenix on December 01, 2019, 12:31:20 am
Is this Ben's pathetic take on the Trump "Rocky" pic?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on December 01, 2019, 01:16:06 am
When it comes to domestic politics, Trump is no different than any other Republican. They just don't like him because a) trade wars, b) foreign policy unpredictability (ie he's not consistently hawkish) and c) his base worships the ground he walks on and will primary all of them in a heartbeat.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on December 08, 2019, 06:07:12 pm
(https://images.theweek.com/sites/default/files/232613_rgb.png?resize=807x807)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on December 10, 2019, 01:59:34 am
(https://grrrgraphics.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/The_Storm_Is_Here_web.jpg)

The best thing about this is that in the Wizard of Oz, the wizard was an old fraud. It seems Garrison is oblivious to nuance.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: niam2023 on December 10, 2019, 02:27:18 am
Is he trying to signal boost those Q Anon creeps?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Id82 on December 10, 2019, 10:15:28 am
Is that tornado supposed to be draining a swamp? Hiring and firing corrupt people from your own administration is not draining the swamp. It's creating it.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Kanzenkankaku on December 10, 2019, 10:17:24 pm
Is... is that even nuance? Isn't it just plainly obvious in the text that the wizard was a fake?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: DarkPhoenix on December 11, 2019, 09:37:18 am
And now, some cartoons accurately depicting what Trump is doing with the "swamp":
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/2v0t0tie62nqeew/drain-swamp-1.jpg)
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/u6bb4xid212j76y/drain-swamp-2.jpg)
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/0fqehvp48ds70fx/drain-swamp-3.jpg)
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/zm3wpsxwyqay06o/drain-swamp-4.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Id82 on December 11, 2019, 10:36:50 am
It looks like there's a Republican and Democratic volcano that is spilling into the swamp. I guess he's saying that Trump is draining the swamp of corrupt Republicans and Democrats but all the tornado seems to be doing is spreading the swamp out even further.
It's just a bad cartoon.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Vanto on December 12, 2019, 12:46:27 pm
Trump supporters are right about there being a swamp in Washington, but their golden boy is the wrong man to drain it.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Id82 on December 12, 2019, 04:39:06 pm
What is the swamp exactly? Is it corrupt politicians that are bought and paid for by huge corporate interests? Because yeah he's doing none of that.

Or is it the large amount of people that he hires to work in his administration that have either been fired or put in jail for doing illegal activities that Trump once spoke so highly of but then denounced them once they were caught breaking the law? Poor Donald Trump these Criminals all seem to follow him everywhere he goes, can't the poor guy just catch a break? I mean it would be stupid to think that Trump would hire people and then tell them to commit illegal activities that they would either flat out refuse to do so they quit, or do them and then get caught? Right?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on January 12, 2020, 05:45:27 pm
(https://static.politico.com/dims4/default/1875aad/2147483647/resize/1160x%3E/quality/90/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fstatic.politico.com%2Fb6%2Ffd%2F0b92989f4b7e955fe4713fe4a603%2F4-jen-sorensen.jpg)

(https://static.politico.com/dims4/default/e431b9d/2147483647/resize/1160x%3E/quality/90/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fstatic.politico.com%2F7d%2F86%2F3c8833e840d1b0ea1eb847f74d69%2F10-tom-tommorow.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on January 19, 2020, 06:22:47 pm
(https://i.cbc.ca/1.5425346.1578946405!/fileImage/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/16x9_780/bruce-mackinnon.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Id82 on January 19, 2020, 08:46:05 pm
Is that supposed to be the Ukraine airline?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on January 20, 2020, 10:37:06 am
Is that supposed to be the Ukraine airline?

Yes, with 63 Canadians on board.

EDIT: Actually 57, per this article (https://www.cbc.ca/news/iran-dual-nationals-downed-ukrainian-plane-iranians-1.5432918).
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Vanto on January 20, 2020, 06:02:07 pm
(https://i.cbc.ca/1.5425346.1578946405!/fileImage/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/16x9_780/bruce-mackinnon.jpg)

Do you think the Iranian government should be held partially responsible for Iran Air Flight 655?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on January 20, 2020, 07:07:34 pm
Yes of course because if you remember just before Iran Flight 655 was shot down by the Vincennes, the iranians had murdered a US general by launching a missile into Canada killing the US general and the Canadian militia leader he was meeting with, putting the US on high alert that then it was shot down accidentally as it went from Canadian airspace into the US.

....

Or wait that didn't happen and these tragedies both have US aggression as part of their cause but Iran Flight 655 was not preceded by an Act of War on the part of the Iranians.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Vanto on January 20, 2020, 08:27:26 pm
Yes of course because if you remember just before Iran Flight 655 was shot down by the Vincennes, the iranians had murdered a US general by launching a missile into Canada killing the US general and the Canadian militia leader he was meeting with, putting the US on high alert that then it was shot down accidentally as it went from Canadian airspace into the US.

....

Or wait that didn't happen and these tragedies both have US aggression as part of their cause but Iran Flight 655 was not preceded by an Act of War on the part of the Iranians.

Wrong. American frigate USS Samuel B. Roberts (FFG-58) was mined by Iran less than three months before the shootdown and there was fear of further Iranian attacks.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on January 20, 2020, 10:41:48 pm
During the Iraq-Iran war, where the US were on the side of Saddam Hussein's Iraq. In the Persian Gulf.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Vanto on January 20, 2020, 11:41:34 pm
During the Iraq-Iran war, where the US were on the side of Saddam Hussein's Iraq. In the Persian Gulf.

Except the Samuel wasn't there to support Iraq, it was there to escort Kuwaiti-owned cargo ships and tankers.

In any case, your defense of Iran's mining could just as easily apply to the drone strike, since it happened mere days after Iran-backed militias attacked the American embassy in Baghdad.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Skybison on January 21, 2020, 12:05:38 am
(https://i.cbc.ca/1.5425346.1578946405!/fileImage/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/16x9_780/bruce-mackinnon.jpg)

Do you think the Iranian government should be held partially responsible for Iran Air Flight 655?

Well I'm not dpareja, but he posted a cartoon that explicitly depicts both Trump and Khamenei both pointing smoking guns over the dead Canadian, so I think it's safe to say dpareja views both as responsible.  I'm at a lost as to why you wouldn't think he does.

Wrong. American frigate USS Samuel B. Roberts (FFG-58) was mined by Iran less than three months before the shootdown and there was fear of further Iranian attacks.

Which is bad but they only did to get back at Trump for scraping Obama's deal, which they had been perfectly happy to agree to, and because they were worried about an American attack, since Trump had brought in giant warhawks like Bolton who clearly in favor of a war with Iran.

Trump is the one who started the process of escalation that nearly started a war and may yet.  The Iranian leadership are also very bad people of the two they are less to blame for the current tensions.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on January 21, 2020, 12:12:10 am
Are both responsible? In my view, yes, because the history of US-Iran tensions is a two-sided affair.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Vanto on January 21, 2020, 12:25:06 am
(https://i.cbc.ca/1.5425346.1578946405!/fileImage/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/16x9_780/bruce-mackinnon.jpg)

Do you think the Iranian government should be held partially responsible for Iran Air Flight 655?

Well I'm not dpareja, but he posted a cartoon that explicitly depicts both Trump and Khamenei both pointing smoking guns over the dead Canadian, so I think it's safe to say dpareja views both as responsible.  I'm at a lost as to why you wouldn't think he does.

Wrong. American frigate USS Samuel B. Roberts (FFG-58) was mined by Iran less than three months before the shootdown and there was fear of further Iranian attacks.

Which is bad but they only did to get back at Trump for scraping Obama's deal, which they had been perfectly happy to agree to, and because they were worried about an American attack, since Trump had brought in giant warhawks like Bolton who clearly in favor of a war with Iran.

Trump is the one who started the process of escalation that nearly started a war and may yet.  The Iranian leadership are also very bad people of the two they are less to blame for the current tensions.

We seem to be having a failure to communicate. I'm not talking about the recent shootdown. These events I brought up happened in 1988, and due to the similarities with what's happening now, I thought I'd check to see if dpareja had a similar stance on what happened back then.

Are both responsible? In my view, yes, because the history of US-Iran tensions is a two-sided affair.


Alright, just thought I'd ask.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on January 21, 2020, 04:50:51 pm
Well the Ayotallahs are terrible but perhaps you should trace their path to power. Which involved the US removing the democratically elected government of Iran and replacing it with the Shah. It was the resulting problems which resulted in the 'Islamic' revolution. The other point is that none of the incidents we talked about involved a threat to or close to the United States (there was no Iranian Cuban Missile Crisis). All these events were very close to Iran. You know so that they might feel threatened.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on January 21, 2020, 06:53:10 pm
More Garrison:

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Spoilered because it's massive. You know you have to really love Trump's wrinkly orange balls to think he is operating strategically rather than by whim. Trump himself says he works off his gut.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Id82 on January 21, 2020, 08:00:58 pm
He would be delusional enough to think that Trump is some kind of mastermind who's steps ahead of everyone, and not an impulsive liar.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Vanto on January 21, 2020, 08:45:11 pm
"Well, that's exactly what a chessmaster would say!" /Trump stan
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on January 21, 2020, 10:03:12 pm
Well the Ayotallahs are terrible but perhaps you should trace their path to power. Which involved the US removing the democratically elected government of Iran and replacing it with the Shah. It was the resulting problems which resulted in the 'Islamic' revolution. The other point is that none of the incidents we talked about involved a threat to or close to the United States (there was no Iranian Cuban Missile Crisis). All these events were very close to Iran. You know so that they might feel threatened.

I agree. Khomeini and Khamenei are, on the whole, terrible people, and the US has provoked Iran time and time again.

That doesn't mean Iran's done nothing to provoke the US.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on January 23, 2020, 09:30:09 pm
Garrison never disappoints:

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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: niam2023 on January 23, 2020, 11:48:12 pm
He is in love with a Trump that exists within only his own mind.

His oh so troubled, closeted mind.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: DarkPhoenix on January 24, 2020, 12:30:27 am
So who's SuperTrump supposedly beating up with the Constitution his lawyers claim should be tossed out as "antiquated"?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on January 30, 2020, 07:04:00 pm
(https://static.politico.com/dims4/default/964dfd0/2147483647/resize/1160x%3E/quality/90/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fstatic.politico.com%2Fce%2F13%2F4c0a7d0d4182a1e21375433da0ba%2F1-darrin-bell-king-features.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on January 31, 2020, 12:40:58 am
https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2019-12-12/millions-in-military-aid-at-center-of-impeachment-hasnt-reached-ukraine

And even then he didn't release it all.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Vanto on January 31, 2020, 01:28:51 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/SBtfwsQ.png)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on February 08, 2020, 12:57:07 am
(https://images.theweek.com/sites/default/files/8_102.jpg?resize=807x807)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on February 08, 2020, 02:28:58 am
The elections the Republicans have been trying to rig (often successfully) for at least twenty years, rather. (Go look at Jeb Bush's purge of Florida's voter rolls in advance of the 2000 election.)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on February 09, 2020, 05:28:21 pm
(https://images.theweek.com/sites/default/files/19_28.jpg?resize=807x807)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Id82 on February 10, 2020, 01:33:27 pm
(https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/739/928/a08.jpeg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on February 11, 2020, 04:18:42 pm
(https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/0c357fb4a1031c209adfb0a1f463c4523e3025a5/0_0_941_569/master/941.jpg?width=940&quality=85&auto=format&fit=max&s=5c44e20545aaed2b3b4e4ba00afcac7a)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on February 15, 2020, 01:31:51 am
a) The proper way to pronounce "gif" is not political.

b) The inventor of Gif files said that it is pronounced the same way that furries pronounce sex so that's how it goes. Get over it.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on February 16, 2020, 02:17:50 am
(https://static.politico.com/dims4/default/b6b126f/2147483647/resize/1160x%3E/quality/90/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fstatic.politico.com%2Fa5%2F80%2F06f344654f08b153a188269aa1ce%2F1-chris-britt-counterpoint.jpg)

(https://static.politico.com/dims4/default/27879ad/2147483647/resize/1160x%3E/quality/90/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fstatic.politico.com%2F11%2F03%2Ffa0222d6467c9941943dc69d2a6f%2F2-kevin-siers-charlotte-observer.jpg)

(https://static.politico.com/dims4/default/3ec999d/2147483647/resize/1160x%3E/quality/90/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fstatic.politico.com%2F7d%2Fd8%2F74117515418c88354527e8845e39%2F8-matt-bors-andrews-mcmeel-syndicate.jpg)

(https://static.politico.com/dims4/default/bc9c503/2147483647/resize/1160x%3E/quality/90/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fstatic.politico.com%2F54%2Fb2%2F28ab8f8545159e55a4b420f5aeae%2F13-tom-tomorrow.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on March 01, 2020, 05:01:13 pm
(https://images.theweek.com/sites/default/files/9_107.jpg?resize=807x807)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on March 03, 2020, 06:25:48 pm
Is this peak Garrison:
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(Put in spoilers because it's pretty big)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Vanto on March 03, 2020, 06:42:09 pm
I'm sure I'm not the first to make this comparison, but Garrison's cartoons remind me of this from Watchmen:

(https://i.redd.it/3tm0aqc5ic341.png)

* Crowded and unfocused
* Weeping Statue of Liberty
* Shocked parents
* Gratuitous ethnic stereotypes
* Arbitrary Marxism labels

Ticks practically all the boxes.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on March 03, 2020, 06:53:55 pm
Yes it's eery. Thanks for posting that as that shows me where Kelly got the weeping statue of liberty from.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on March 04, 2020, 03:50:04 pm
(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Id82 on March 04, 2020, 05:08:55 pm
that one's actually pretty funny.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on March 07, 2020, 09:36:29 pm
(click to show/hide)

You know apart from the label over the bedboard Garrison restrains himself pretty well with the labels on this one. The bedboard really wasn't necessary given the blanket either.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on March 12, 2020, 03:17:31 am
Kinda big.

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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on March 23, 2020, 01:04:17 am
(https://preview.redd.it/mkrn10um5kn41.png?auto=webp&s=56c4687804b6f2594d64a645b575d85d6c5dae35)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Id82 on March 23, 2020, 04:24:26 am
I'm surprised that it doesn't have Yang saying to Trump what a good idea it is.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on March 23, 2020, 05:14:05 am
Remember, this is how he used to depict Yang:

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EEXxowUW4AIQNs0.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on March 23, 2020, 06:50:28 pm
Back to the classic style
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(https://images.theweek.com/sites/default/files/8_33.png?resize=807x807)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cloud3514 on March 23, 2020, 07:25:13 pm
So is Garrison's crush on Trump over or is this just a momentary return to normal for him?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on March 23, 2020, 07:48:54 pm
No it's the deepstate not trump doing it
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Id82 on March 23, 2020, 10:11:21 pm
I've heard Ghost from true capitalist radio,  a scuffed Alex Jones type saying Trump is compromised by the deep state and they're forcing him to do this.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Vanto on April 03, 2020, 02:46:49 pm
(https://www.ft.com/__origami/service/image/v2/images/raw/http%3A%2F%2Fcom.ft.imagepublish.upp-prod-eu.s3.amazonaws.com%2F9430215e-7537-11ea-95fe-fcd274e920ca?fit=scale-down&source=next&width=700)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Id82 on April 14, 2020, 10:40:12 am
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EVD3mz0U0AcyaQC.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Tolpuddle Martyr on April 21, 2020, 01:06:37 am
(https://scontent.fmel5-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/93823151_127349092241283_8095276190543118336_n.jpg?_nc_cat=1&_nc_sid=110474&_nc_ohc=T31B-T5cU-oAX8b1fEh&_nc_ht=scontent.fmel5-1.fna&oh=a62f4acb607123a26070d13e5dd0031b&oe=5EC3326A)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on April 21, 2020, 07:00:43 pm
Why are these people so fragile that they need to protest with Assault rifles and handguns?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cloud3514 on April 21, 2020, 10:09:10 pm
Because they think it sends a message that they're willing to fight to the death for their "rights." Of course, they don't realize that it actually makes them look like they're compensating for something.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: DarkPhoenix on April 22, 2020, 03:42:29 pm
Because they think it sends a message that they're willing to fight to the death for their "rights." Of course, they don't realize that it actually makes them look like they're compensating for something.

Yeah, low intelligence.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on April 22, 2020, 05:50:04 pm
Except carrying that sort of weaponry makes it clear not that they'll die for their beliefs but rather that they'll kill.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Id82 on April 22, 2020, 07:42:11 pm
These people think that they can also stand toe to toe with the US army because they shoot cans off of their fences in their back yard.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RavynousHunter on April 22, 2020, 08:17:52 pm
My uncle-in-law is of that mind, thinking an armed civilian revolt could actually work.  He's not full "I CAN COUNT TO POTATO" militia, thankfully, but that's largely because he's too old.  Its also hilariously ironic because these are usually the same dumb cunts that, in the very next breath, ook about the firepower of the US Mihl'turruh.  Ya know, the armchair generals that think they're hot shit because they can rattle off statistics about the M1 Abrams or the rate of fire of a P90.  The exact same weapons tech that'd be brought to bear against them if they decided to go full potato and actually try to start an armed revolt...assuming they didn't last less than five minutes when Dale's "mother-of-all-pipe-bombs" explodes in his hands and turns half your LARPing group into paste.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Id82 on April 22, 2020, 08:30:12 pm
Not to mention the tech the Army has is way more advanced than anything a militia would have. A bunch of M4s and kevlar vests would stand no chance against a camouflaged night seeing drone that can carpet bomb them before they would even realize what hit them.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Vanto on April 23, 2020, 01:10:41 pm
These people think that they can also stand toe to toe with the US army because they shoot cans off of their fences in their back yard.

My uncle-in-law is of that mind, thinking an armed civilian revolt could actually work.  He's not full "I CAN COUNT TO POTATO" militia, thankfully, but that's largely because he's too old.  Its also hilariously ironic because these are usually the same dumb cunts that, in the very next breath, ook about the firepower of the US Mihl'turruh.  Ya know, the armchair generals that think they're hot shit because they can rattle off statistics about the M1 Abrams or the rate of fire of a P90.  The exact same weapons tech that'd be brought to bear against them if they decided to go full potato and actually try to start an armed revolt...assuming they didn't last less than five minutes when Dale's "mother-of-all-pipe-bombs" explodes in his hands and turns half your LARPing group into paste.

Not to mention the tech the Army has is way more advanced than anything a militia would have. A bunch of M4s and kevlar vests would stand no chance against a camouflaged night seeing drone that can carpet bomb them before they would even realize what hit them.

*laughs in Vietnamese*
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RavynousHunter on April 23, 2020, 02:13:09 pm
*laughs in Vietnamese*

*laughs in facts (https://www.historynet.com/vietnam-war)*

The only reason we pulled out of Vietnam was because of footage of the Tet Offensive, which actually ended as a crushing defeat for the NVA and Viet Cong, came over to the States and people misinterpreted it, causing a massive decrease in popularity for the war effort Stateside.

The people that say "Oh, we totes lost Vietnam because muh guerrilla warfare" are the exact same idiots that claim Hitler would've won WWII if America hadn't showed up; it was just a matter of when Stalin decided to send millions of angry Slavs to get revenge.  Not if, when.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: niam2023 on April 23, 2020, 02:15:53 pm
The same idiots who loudly talk about how ready they are to fight the government will be the first people to start whining about how unfair drones are, and how the government should come fight them like men.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RavynousHunter on April 23, 2020, 02:57:06 pm
The same idiots who loudly talk about how ready they are to fight the government will be the first people to start whining about how unfair drones are, and how the government should come fight them like men.

Not to mention stealth bombers, thermobaric explosives, napalm, tanks, combat helicopters; if the US government really wanted to, they could own your monkey ass and you couldn't do shit unless the military rebelled.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on April 23, 2020, 06:52:58 pm
It wasn't even the case that the vietcong were killing more US soldiers for every vc killed. But if there was an organised uprising it would be squashed unless like Ravy says the US military joined in (presumably with some State governements) US Civil War II presumably this time it would be the West and East Coast vs the Middle, rather than the North vs the South.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RavynousHunter on April 23, 2020, 08:00:49 pm
It wasn't even the case that the vietcong were killing more US soldiers for every vc killed. But if there was an organised uprising it would be squashed unless like Ravy says the US military joined in (presumably with some State governements) US Civil War II presumably this time it would be the West and East Coast vs the Middle, rather than the North vs the South.

So, basically, a curbstomp battle that'd last, like, 3 months.  Tops.

Seriously, though, without support from the actual, factual military, any attempt at armed revolution in the US (organized or no) would be doomed from the outset.  They'd either get a face full of mass amounts of tear gas and yeeted into jail until the heat death of the universe, or they'd go up against every bit of tech they're normally spending their hours jacking off to on Reddit...and end up in a hole, somewhere, on fire.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: niam2023 on April 23, 2020, 08:41:17 pm
Let alone all the fun experimental shit - like rail guns.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Vanto on April 23, 2020, 08:44:19 pm
*laughs in Vietnamese*

*laughs in facts (https://www.historynet.com/vietnam-war)*

The only reason we pulled out of Vietnam was because of footage of the Tet Offensive, which actually ended as a crushing defeat for the NVA and Viet Cong, came over to the States and people misinterpreted it, causing a massive decrease in popularity for the war effort Stateside.

The people that say "Oh, we totes lost Vietnam because muh guerrilla warfare" are the exact same idiots that claim Hitler would've won WWII if America hadn't showed up; it was just a matter of when Stalin decided to send millions of angry Slavs to get revenge.  Not if, when.

That's not what your source says. To quote the summation paragraph:

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Yet, to say the media cost America victory in Vietnam is vastly oversimplifying a very complex situation. As noted above, a number of sources warned U.S. leaders against becoming embroiled in Southeast Asia. Corruption and instability in South Vietnam’s government did not instill confidence in its people, or in the Americans working with it. Ruling out an invasion of North Vietnam assured that a purely military victory would not be possible, a fact that was at odds with many Americans’ expectations for the war.

Emphasis added.

It wasn't even the case that the vietcong were killing more US soldiers for every vc killed. But if there was an organised uprising it would be squashed unless like Ravy says the US military joined in (presumably with some State governements) US Civil War II presumably this time it would be the West and East Coast vs the Middle, rather than the North vs the South.

So, basically, a curbstomp battle that'd last, like, 3 months.  Tops.

Seriously, though, without support from the actual, factual military, any attempt at armed revolution in the US (organized or no) would be doomed from the outset.  They'd either get a face full of mass amounts of tear gas and yeeted into jail until the heat death of the universe, or they'd go up against every bit of tech they're normally spending their hours jacking off to on Reddit...and end up in a hole, somewhere, on fire.

Here are a few statistics you might find interesting.

There are about 1.5 million people in all branches of the American military put together. The majority are unarmed noncombatant support staff.

Between one-third and one-half of American adults own guns. Some only have one, but the average number is eight guns. About half of non-gun owners would be willing to own a gun in the future.

Even if we go with the more conservative estimates and assume that only a tenth would fight, armed civilians would outnumber the military two-to-one. And because this is a point that bears repeating, most people in the military don't actually fight.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on April 23, 2020, 09:47:06 pm
Why don't you ask the Poles how many men armed with guns does it take to beat a tank?

You are also assuming that no armed civilians would turn out in support of the US military
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RavynousHunter on April 24, 2020, 10:29:16 am
Here are a few statistics you might find interesting.

There are about 1.5 million people in all branches of the American military put together. The majority are unarmed noncombatant support staff.

Between one-third and one-half of American adults own guns. Some only have one, but the average number is eight guns. About half of non-gun owners would be willing to own a gun in the future.

Even if we go with the more conservative estimates and assume that only a tenth would fight, armed civilians would outnumber the military two-to-one. And because this is a point that bears repeating, most people in the military don't actually fight.

...You know those weapons are basically fucking cap guns compared to actual military hardware, right?  This isn't 1782, where the best anyone could hope for was a flintlock musket.  The military (hell, even SWAT teams) have an enormous technological advantage against Joe Scumfuck that thinks his .223 Remington hunting rifle can stand toe-to-toe with assault rifles, submachine guns, and squad automatic weapons like the M249 SAW.

That also completely discounts the extreme amount of training and experience even your average Army grunt has over John Q. Gunlicker who, most of the time, could just about run thru the woods at his auntie's house in Sisterfist, Arkansas and maybe hit a can with his illegally modified AR-15.

Again, even against a comparatively tame SWAT team, most of these LARPing dipshits would last about half an hour before either being arrested or ventilated.  Sure, you'd have a few ex-military holdouts here and there, but its exceedingly unlikely they're the second coming of Simo Haeyhae.  Most of 'em are Frank Castle wannabes that, again, would eventually either be forced to eat turf and get yeeted behind steel bars for the rest of their lives, or cornered in whatever backwoods trailer they made their home and turned into pincoushins.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Id82 on April 24, 2020, 02:58:03 pm
Yeah I'm afraid Technology trumps numbers. The US army has made it that they don't even need boots on the ground to fight battles. Just an unmanned undetectable drone that can carpet bomb a whole city block in a matter of seconds. Or a powerful LED light ( vomit gun ) that makes people so sick it causes them to stop and puke all over the place.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: niam2023 on April 24, 2020, 03:35:12 pm
I'd pay money to watch a bunch of hicks try and fight something like an ED-209.

My money's on the 209.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Id82 on April 25, 2020, 01:20:33 am
But that's not a real thing.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: niam2023 on April 25, 2020, 01:40:20 am
...Is it now?

https://steelturman.typepad.com/thesteeldeal/2006/11/antipersonnel_r.html

Techwin developed a robot outfitted with voice recognition software (hopefully less buggy), its mobile, and given quite a lethal set of weapons. They're primarily used on the Korean border, but aside from that, they can be bought up at 200,000 dollars. It even looks a lot like the good ol' ED-209.

...I think I know what I'm spending some of my acting money on.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RavynousHunter on April 25, 2020, 01:53:59 pm
Does it still squeal like a piggy when it falls over?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on April 29, 2020, 09:34:51 pm
(https://i.redd.it/m0kbcliah6v41.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on May 04, 2020, 09:49:34 pm
(https://static.politico.com/dims4/default/3a7f8f2/2147483647/resize/1160x%3E/quality/90/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fstatic.politico.com%2F0b%2F15%2F3864ce4d4666894c45336121cdac%2F5-michael-de-adder-counterpoint.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Id82 on May 04, 2020, 10:55:27 pm
Wait is Alex Jones (I think that's Alex Jones) supposed to be Judas?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on May 05, 2020, 06:26:04 am
I think that's Mike Pompeo
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Vanto on May 14, 2020, 12:24:44 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/stTnGDF.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Skybison on May 15, 2020, 12:13:06 am
Well said Justin, well said.  Better gun laws are needed to prevent more tragedies like we had recently.

Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Vanto on May 15, 2020, 06:38:31 pm
Well said Justin, well said.  Better gun laws are needed to prevent more tragedies like we had recently.

What laws would have prevented the tragedy in Nova Scotia? And does what happened justify screwing over law-abiding citizens?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on May 15, 2020, 06:42:41 pm
https://www.cbc.ca/news/opinion/opinion-gun-control-handguns-1.5532173
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Vanto on May 15, 2020, 09:43:33 pm
https://www.cbc.ca/news/opinion/opinion-gun-control-handguns-1.5532173

Well, that was a load of bullshit. And a lot of the commenters seem to agree with me.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: DarkPhoenix on May 15, 2020, 11:39:46 pm
Well said Justin, well said.  Better gun laws are needed to prevent more tragedies like we had recently.

What laws would have prevented the tragedy in Nova Scotia? And does what happened justify screwing over law-abiding citizens?

What the fuck do you need an assault rifle for?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Skybison on May 16, 2020, 12:39:35 am
And a lot of the commenters seem to agree with me.

You know the kind of reputation internet comments have right?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: niam2023 on May 16, 2020, 02:18:42 am
And I am sure Vanto that "CuckSlayer1488"'s opinion is an absolutely vital one which sheds a lot of light on the legality and process of these laws.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Eiki-mun on May 16, 2020, 07:32:07 am
https://www.cbc.ca/news/opinion/opinion-gun-control-handguns-1.5532173

Well, that was a load of bullshit. And a lot of the commenters seem to agree with me.

Is there any specific statement or set of statements In the article you can argue against? Remember, this is a Canadian article about a Canadian law, so no right to bear arms here.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Vanto on May 17, 2020, 01:19:08 am
Well said Justin, well said.  Better gun laws are needed to prevent more tragedies like we had recently.

What laws would have prevented the tragedy in Nova Scotia? And does what happened justify screwing over law-abiding citizens?

What the fuck do you need an assault rifle for?

The idea that anything should be banned because there is no "need" for it is irrational and undemocratic.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/opinion/opinion-gun-control-handguns-1.5532173

Well, that was a load of bullshit. And a lot of the commenters seem to agree with me.

Is there any specific statement or set of statements In the article you can argue against? Remember, this is a Canadian article about a Canadian law, so no right to bear arms here.

The right to bear arms is an inherent human right, not some privilege granted by governments.

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There is no conceivable reason why an ordinary person needs to own a handgun. No reason whatsoever.

Apparently, needing a gun to defend oneself is inconceivable to this guy. Canada is a big country, and there are a lot of areas where it could take the police hours to respond to a call for help. And that's before you get into the questionable decisions the RCMP made before and during this tragedy.

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Likewise, the term "shooting yourself in the foot" is not just a metaphor. Military medics know well that when you draw a pistol in a panic, the first round sometimes goes through your foot. Or an innocent bystander. If you keep it tucked into your waistband, it will go through something else, but that's another story.

Because no civilian has any idea of what proper trigger discipline is.

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The more guns in society, the more gun deaths.

Statistics say otherwise (https://mises.org/wire/theres-no-correlation-between-gun-ownership-mass-shootings-and-murder-rates).

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Legal guns have a way of being stolen and becoming illegal.

You mean like the 173 guns reported stolen from the Canadian police between 2005 and 2019 (https://dennisryoung.ca/2019/07/04/rcmp-813-guns-lost-by-and-stolen-from-police-and-public-agencies-2005-2019/)? And keep in mind: those are just the ones known to have been stolen.

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And even a law-abiding gun owner can cross over to the dark side under stress, delusion and paranoia.

Yeah, let's restrict people's rights based on what they might do in the future. That's not authoritarian at all!

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People who rave about owning these devices of death are often referred to as "gun enthusiasts." This makes about as much sense as "poison gas enthusiasts" or "land mine enthusiasts." Collecting and slavering over devices which are primarily designed to kill people is not normal.

Why do you prefer ad hominem attacks over statistical analysis? Could it be that you'd lose if you focused on the facts?

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A suggested scenario:

1. A total and absolute ban on handgun sales, and on handgun ownership by private citizens. (With long prison terms for violation.)
2. Restriction of long guns to bolt-action rifles and limited-magazine shotguns.
3. Firm enforcement of minimum sentences for possession of any restricted weapon, and even more stringent penalties for anyone committing a crime with a firearm.
4. Exemptions, under strict controls, where subsistence hunting is a way of life.

OK then, what will these laws do about all the illegal guns already on the streets? Or those being smuggled in? Would these laws have done anything to prevent the tragedy?

Not to mention that's a tall order. 1 in 4 Canadian households own at least one gun, and Canada has over 13 million guns in total. The idea that guns aren't important in Canada and can be banned en masse without causing major problems is hopelessly naive. Doing this would be very expensive, and probably wouldn't actually accomplish anything. That money could be put to much better use getting the economy started again.

All this for something that's an infinitesimally small cause of death in Canada. Only around 165 firearm homicides occur each year in Canada according to Statistics Canada. Almost all of those are gang-related and use illegal firearms. In comparison, drunk driving kills at least 1,250 people in Canada every year according to MADD Canada. That's the most drunk driving deaths per capita in the developed world. Maybe you should try prohibition, hosehead. Didn't work down here, but considering you're so sure you can get a gun ban to work despite the many times they've failed, you might have better luck with it.

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Add to this a heightened border vigilance against guns coming from the United States, and not only will gun crime decrease, so will accidental deaths and suicides.

Why are you treating this like an afterthought? This should be prioritized over gun restrictions, if they are to be considered at all. Imagine what you are allowed to do being determined not by your own conduct, but by the actions of criminals over whom you have no control.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Id82 on May 17, 2020, 09:22:23 am
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The right to bear arms is an inherent human right, not some privilege granted by governments.


Well in Canada it isn't. Canada has really strict gun laws requiring you to attain a license depending on what kind of firearm you want to purchase. Which requires you to take the Canada's firearms safety course. As well as pass a psychiatric evaluation and a full on background check. Every gun you buy has a 28 day waiting period. The only guns that don't require a license are hunting rifles, but hunting also has it's own rules and regulations. So the right to own a gun is not guaranteed which is why Canada has a really low fire arm homicide rate. Two per one hundred thousand people than it's neighbor down south.

Now I agree that banning fifteen hundred types of guns is a bit extreme. When the real problem is smuggling guns in from the US.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Skybison on May 17, 2020, 10:23:31 am
The idea that anything should be banned because there is no "need" for it is irrational and undemocratic.

That is not true.  If the item in question potentially places others at risk or is otherwise harmful to society/the world and is not needed by it's owner, then the rights of others not to be put in danger is more important.  To what extent this applies to guns is debatable but it is not undemocratic or irrational to place Sarah's right to live above Bob's right to property.

"Those who would give up everyone else's essential safety  to purchase a little temporary liberty deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RavynousHunter on May 17, 2020, 10:31:04 am
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The right to bear arms is an inherent human right, not some privilege granted by governments.

...You realize this isn't the finale of Moral Orel and America isn't the only country on Earth, right?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: DarkPhoenix on May 17, 2020, 01:16:04 pm
The idea that anything should be banned because there is no "need" for it is irrational and undemocratic.

Congrats, you're about a step away from authoritarianism.  After all, if anyone should be able to HAVE anything, how long before people start thinking they should be able to DO anything?  That slope's not as slippery as it should be...

And I would argue that a constant drive to own weapons designed to murder human beings is itself irrational...
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on May 17, 2020, 01:34:54 pm
The only rights human beings have are those granted by nations and UN. There is no natural truth that can back up a "right." Governments and legal systems can back up and uphold the rights but only the ones that the nation has agreed upon (and occasionally due to corruption even those are violated.)

Let's take that "right to bear arms" as an example. There are plenty of countries that have no such right for citizens and in fact ownership of firearms has limitations that differ from those in USA. Actually, even in USA the states have differences in how that particular right is interpreted. There is no law of physics that would prevent any country, even USA, from changing laws to violate that "right" as we can see from the fact that USA has and continues to strip people of the right to bear arms.

You can argue that thing X is something that should be a human right and possibly even get UN to ratify it or at least your country to update their constitution (if they have any) to mention that right, but even that is evidence that the rights aren't something that people or nations universally agree on.

It is my pet peeve when random people claim that just because a bunch of agnostics and religious people wrote down that they think the rights are granted from God, that it would mean that this is some sort of biblical truth. Even other Christian countries disagree on minor details of human rights. Heck, there are several human rights that USA does not uphold despite nearly every country in the world agreeing on them.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on May 17, 2020, 08:45:27 pm
Fuck I love Garrison but I don't think he knows what tilting at windmills actually means:

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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Vanto on May 19, 2020, 08:06:39 pm
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The right to bear arms is an inherent human right, not some privilege granted by governments.


Well in Canada it isn't. Canada has really strict gun laws requiring you to attain a license depending on what kind of firearm you want to purchase. Which requires you to take the Canada's firearms safety course. As well as pass a psychiatric evaluation and a full on background check. Every gun you buy has a 28 day waiting period. The only guns that don't require a license are hunting rifles, but hunting also has it's own rules and regulations. So the right to own a gun is not guaranteed which is why Canada has a really low fire arm homicide rate. Two per one hundred thousand people than it's neighbor down south.

Now I agree that banning fifteen hundred types of guns is a bit extreme. When the real problem is smuggling guns in from the US.

Just because Canada doesn't recognize it as a human right doesn't mean it's not a human right.

The idea that anything should be banned because there is no "need" for it is irrational and undemocratic.

That is not true.  If the item in question potentially places others at risk or is otherwise harmful to society/the world and is not needed by it's owner, then the rights of others not to be put in danger is more important.  To what extent this applies to guns is debatable but it is not undemocratic or irrational to place Sarah's right to live above Bob's right to property.

"Those who would give up everyone else's essential safety  to purchase a little temporary liberty deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."

Well then, maybe Canada really should ban alcohol. Nobody needs to get drunk, and as I discussed earlier, drunk driving kills far more Canadians than gun violence.

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The right to bear arms is an inherent human right, not some privilege granted by governments.

...You realize this isn't the finale of Moral Orel and America isn't the only country on Earth, right?

I never saw Moral Orel.

The idea that anything should be banned because there is no "need" for it is irrational and undemocratic.

Congrats, you're about a step away from authoritarianism.  After all, if anyone should be able to HAVE anything, how long before people start thinking they should be able to DO anything?  That slope's not as slippery as it should be...

So granting people the freedom to have or do what they want... is authoritarian? Huh?

And I would argue that a constant drive to own weapons designed to murder human beings is itself irrational...

You're entitled to your opinion, but that doesn't give you the right to arbitrarily decide what other people can and can't do. I consider the desire to smoke tobacco and marijuana irrational, but I don't want to force people to give up their smoking habits. What I do want is to keep said smoking habits from hurting other people.

The only rights human beings have are those granted by nations and UN. There is no natural truth that can back up a "right." Governments and legal systems can back up and uphold the rights but only the ones that the nation has agreed upon (and occasionally due to corruption even those are violated.)

Let's take that "right to bear arms" as an example. There are plenty of countries that have no such right for citizens and in fact ownership of firearms has limitations that differ from those in USA. Actually, even in USA the states have differences in how that particular right is interpreted. There is no law of physics that would prevent any country, even USA, from changing laws to violate that "right" as we can see from the fact that USA has and continues to strip people of the right to bear arms.

You can argue that thing X is something that should be a human right and possibly even get UN to ratify it or at least your country to update their constitution (if they have any) to mention that right, but even that is evidence that the rights aren't something that people or nations universally agree on.

It is my pet peeve when random people claim that just because a bunch of agnostics and religious people wrote down that they think the rights are granted from God, that it would mean that this is some sort of biblical truth. Even other Christian countries disagree on minor details of human rights. Heck, there are several human rights that USA does not uphold despite nearly every country in the world agreeing on them.

Your logic is, frankly, warped and terrifying. You don't have to be religious to agree that humans are inherently deserving of rights that cannot be taken away except by due process of law. What's the alternative? That governments can arbitrarily take away freedoms from large masses of people? Man, fuck that shit.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Id82 on May 19, 2020, 11:07:51 pm
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The right to bear arms is an inherent human right, not some privilege granted by governments.


Well in Canada it isn't. Canada has really strict gun laws requiring you to attain a license depending on what kind of firearm you want to purchase. Which requires you to take the Canada's firearms safety course. As well as pass a psychiatric evaluation and a full on background check. Every gun you buy has a 28 day waiting period. The only guns that don't require a license are hunting rifles, but hunting also has it's own rules and regulations. So the right to own a gun is not guaranteed which is why Canada has a really low fire arm homicide rate. Two per one hundred thousand people than it's neighbor down south.

Now I agree that banning fifteen hundred types of guns is a bit extreme. When the real problem is smuggling guns in from the US.

Just because Canada doesn't recognize it as a human right doesn't mean it's not a human right.

What the fuck are you talking about? The shooting spree that were referring to took place in Canada. There's no right to bear arms in Canada and firearms are heavily regulated. Your argument makes as much sense as saying Just because (insert country) doesn't recognize not obeying speed limits as a human right doesn't mean it's not a human right.

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Well then, maybe Canada really should ban alcohol. Nobody needs to get drunk, and as I discussed earlier, drunk driving kills far more Canadians than gun violence.


Well being that fire arms are harder to obtain in Canada of course drunk driving kills more people. But there are also these things called laws and regulations put on alcohol consumption and operating a motor vehicles which punish offenders harshly and hold people accountable. Laws that if they were not in place would make driving completely dangerous, since anyone could just do what they want. Laws that are preventing even more deaths from happening.  Laws and regulations that a lot of fire arm advocates don't want or want removed to prevent fire arm safety.

Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on May 20, 2020, 12:08:39 am
I looked through what is probably the most definitive declaration of human rights yet composed (https://www.un.org/en/universal-declaration-human-rights/).

Maybe I missed it, but could you please point me to where it says that people have a right to own guns?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: DarkPhoenix on May 20, 2020, 12:17:04 am

So granting people the freedom to have or do what they want... is authoritarian? Huh?


The argument that you should be allowed to do WHATEVER you want without restriction or your "freedom" is being taken away is the first step in Authoritarian Libertarianism.  First, you claim "freedom" is the ability to do whatever you want, and then you claim the majority is taking away your rights.  This was in fact the argument the Libertarian movement made against DESEGREGATION; that it was wrong for the government or the majority to demand all-white schools accept black children.  They just took it to the logical conclusion; that if the most important thing in the world is that you can do whatever you want, then you should be allowed to deprive OTHER PEOPLE of what they have, because them having things you don't is infringing on your freedom.


You're entitled to your opinion, but that doesn't give you the right to arbitrarily decide what other people can and can't do. I consider the desire to smoke tobacco and marijuana irrational, but I don't want to force people to give up their smoking habits. What I do want is to keep said smoking habits from hurting other people.


It's bullshit to bring into an argument about a tool that exists SOLELY to murder other human beings things that are not.  Smoking does not exist specifically to kill something else.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on May 21, 2020, 01:50:59 am
Vanto, you keep using the word "arbitrarily" but only when it is something that you specifically disagree with. I don't think you understand what the word means.

That Canada does not consider a "right to bear arms" to be a human right is not an arbitrary choice. Universal Declaration of Human Rights is the opposite of "arbitrary" as it was something that drafted by 18 people specifically chosen to be from various diverse backgrounds, it was voted on by all then members of the UN and has been later approved by nearly every country in the world. This is not something that people chose as a joke or made up on the spot, it was something that was deliberate on and meticulously crafted to be as good as possible.

Same goes with the flag burning. Germany didn't just randomly decide "lol, let's make this illegal." To make a law in any country (aside from dictatorships) means that scholars, judges and politicians have carefully drafted the law and through elected politicians, the will of the voters has been the final say on whether or not the new law is to be adopted.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on May 29, 2020, 09:39:26 am
(https://preview.redd.it/jx1qne1f5p151.jpg?width=1024&auto=webp&s=6c3770e82d73c26fb2f2b004b3838124708fe228)

Welp, put a mark on the wall, Benny boy made a good comic once in a while. Heck, he's not even using that many labels this time.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Vanto on May 29, 2020, 12:55:01 pm
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The right to bear arms is an inherent human right, not some privilege granted by governments.


Well in Canada it isn't. Canada has really strict gun laws requiring you to attain a license depending on what kind of firearm you want to purchase. Which requires you to take the Canada's firearms safety course. As well as pass a psychiatric evaluation and a full on background check. Every gun you buy has a 28 day waiting period. The only guns that don't require a license are hunting rifles, but hunting also has it's own rules and regulations. So the right to own a gun is not guaranteed which is why Canada has a really low fire arm homicide rate. Two per one hundred thousand people than it's neighbor down south.

Now I agree that banning fifteen hundred types of guns is a bit extreme. When the real problem is smuggling guns in from the US.

Just because Canada doesn't recognize it as a human right doesn't mean it's not a human right.

What the fuck are you talking about? The shooting spree that were referring to took place in Canada. There's no right to bear arms in Canada and firearms are heavily regulated. Your argument makes as much sense as saying Just because (insert country) doesn't recognize not obeying speed limits as a human right doesn't mean it's not a human right.

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Well then, maybe Canada really should ban alcohol. Nobody needs to get drunk, and as I discussed earlier, drunk driving kills far more Canadians than gun violence.


Well being that fire arms are harder to obtain in Canada of course drunk driving kills more people. But there are also these things called laws and regulations put on alcohol consumption and operating a motor vehicles which punish offenders harshly and hold people accountable. Laws that if they were not in place would make driving completely dangerous, since anyone could just do what they want. Laws that are preventing even more deaths from happening.  Laws and regulations that a lot of fire arm advocates don't want or want removed to prevent fire arm safety.

Bold of you to assume these laws will accomplish anything. The perpetrator of this massacre committed it with guns he wasn't legally allowed to own. What laws would have stopped him?

I looked through what is probably the most definitive declaration of human rights yet composed (https://www.un.org/en/universal-declaration-human-rights/).

Maybe I missed it, but could you please point me to where it says that people have a right to own guns?


Right here:

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Everyone has the right to life, liberty and security of person.

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(1) Everyone has the right to own property alone as well as in association with others.
(2) No one shall be arbitrarily deprived of his property.

Or do you interpret these differently?


So granting people the freedom to have or do what they want... is authoritarian? Huh?


The argument that you should be allowed to do WHATEVER you want without restriction or your "freedom" is being taken away is the first step in Authoritarian Libertarianism.  First, you claim "freedom" is the ability to do whatever you want, and then you claim the majority is taking away your rights.  This was in fact the argument the Libertarian movement made against DESEGREGATION; that it was wrong for the government or the majority to demand all-white schools accept black children.  They just took it to the logical conclusion; that if the most important thing in the world is that you can do whatever you want, then you should be allowed to deprive OTHER PEOPLE of what they have, because them having things you don't is infringing on your freedom.


You're entitled to your opinion, but that doesn't give you the right to arbitrarily decide what other people can and can't do. I consider the desire to smoke tobacco and marijuana irrational, but I don't want to force people to give up their smoking habits. What I do want is to keep said smoking habits from hurting other people.


It's bullshit to bring into an argument about a tool that exists SOLELY to murder other human beings things that are not.  Smoking does not exist specifically to kill something else.

1. Now I see what you're getting at. But you're indulging in a slippery slope fallacy. More important, that's conflating two entirely different things. My owning whatever guns I like is in no way an infringement on your rights and freedoms.

And since you brought up opposition to desegregation, I feel obligated to remind you that gun control has a well-documented history of racism. I gotta be honest: a big part of why I'm against gun control is because I'm afraid it would be applied in a discriminatory way.

2. Oh, stop being melodramatic. Guns aren't intended "solely to murder other human beings". There are completely legitimate reasons to use them, like hunting and self-defense.

Smoking also kills many more Americans every year than guns. And before you say smokers are only killing themselves, secondhand smoke kills more than 41,000 Americans every year. Even including suicides by firearm and gun-related accidents, only around 33,000 Americans are killed by gunshots annually.

Vanto, you keep using the word "arbitrarily" but only when it is something that you specifically disagree with. I don't think you understand what the word means.

That Canada does not consider a "right to bear arms" to be a human right is not an arbitrary choice. Universal Declaration of Human Rights is the opposite of "arbitrary" as it was something that drafted by 18 people specifically chosen to be from various diverse backgrounds, it was voted on by all then members of the UN and has been later approved by nearly every country in the world. This is not something that people chose as a joke or made up on the spot, it was something that was deliberate on and meticulously crafted to be as good as possible.

Same goes with the flag burning. Germany didn't just randomly decide "lol, let's make this illegal." To make a law in any country (aside from dictatorships) means that scholars, judges and politicians have carefully drafted the law and through elected politicians, the will of the voters has been the final say on whether or not the new law is to be adopted.

Well, the more I look at restrictions on guns and flag-burning, the more arbitrary they seem to me.

(https://preview.redd.it/jx1qne1f5p151.jpg?width=1024&auto=webp&s=6c3770e82d73c26fb2f2b004b3838124708fe228)

Welp, put a mark on the wall, Benny boy made a good comic once in a while. Heck, he's not even using that many labels this time.

Guess that explains the pigs I saw flying over the woods behind my house.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on May 29, 2020, 01:41:44 pm
Most places that have a "security of person" guarantee do not interpret that as a plenary right to own guns.

As for property rights, as with all rights, these have to be balanced against other considerations, such as others' individual rights (such as security of person) and societal rights. It is not in any way unreasonable to conclude that unrestricted possession of firearms infringes unduly on these latter limitations.

And, especially among developed liberal democracies, the US is an outlier in so many respects that I wouldn't reference then as a precedent for just about anything if I'm trying to argue that something is a good idea.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Id82 on May 29, 2020, 01:59:46 pm
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Bold of you to assume these laws will accomplish anything. The perpetrator of this massacre committed it with guns he wasn't legally allowed to own. What laws would have stopped him?

Laws are not one hundred percent perfect. You can't stop every drunk driver, can't prevent everyone from going over the speed limit. But laws being in place has vastly improved automotive related deaths over the past century. The shootings in Nova Scotia came as a shock to the country because that kind of thing doesn't happen as often. There's a reason why Canada only had 292 related gun homicides last year where the US has close to 33,000 a year.
But your right lets not have any laws and regulations in place at all. I mean why even put locks or alarms on our doors thieves are just going to break in when they want anyway?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Vanto on May 29, 2020, 05:37:14 pm
Most places that have a "security of person" guarantee do not interpret that as a plenary right to own guns.

As for property rights, as with all rights, these have to be balanced against other considerations, such as others' individual rights (such as security of person) and societal rights. It is not in any way unreasonable to conclude that unrestricted possession of firearms infringes unduly on these latter limitations.

And, especially among developed liberal democracies, the US is an outlier in so many respects that I wouldn't reference then as a precedent for just about anything if I'm trying to argue that something is a good idea.

You say "outlier" like it's a bad thing. Being an outlier is the reason we had so few thalidomide babies.

More important, how does my gun ownership hurt anybody else? It's not like I'm going around threatening people with them. Using your logic, I could just as easily say your ownership and consumption of liquor violates other peoples' rights to not get hit by drunk drivers.

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Bold of you to assume these laws will accomplish anything. The perpetrator of this massacre committed it with guns he wasn't legally allowed to own. What laws would have stopped him?

Laws are not one hundred percent perfect. You can't stop every drunk driver, can't prevent everyone from going over the speed limit. But laws being in place has vastly improved automotive related deaths over the past century. The shootings in Nova Scotia came as a shock to the country because that kind of thing doesn't happen as often. There's a reason why Canada only had 292 related gun homicides last year where the US has close to 33,000 a year.
But your right lets not have any laws and regulations in place at all. I mean why even put locks or alarms on our doors thieves are just going to break in when they want anyway?


Like with torture, if gun control reliably worked, I could at least understand the rationale behind it. I can't say I'd agree with it, but I could at least see why people advocated in its favor. But there have been multiple statistical analyses that have shown no correlation between strict gun laws and lower gun deaths. Great Britain's gun control laws have proven inconsistent at best when it comes to reducing gun crime, and Australia's record with gun control is even worse. Why should I give up my rights because of laws that I know have only a hit-or-miss chance at best of working as intended and whose desired results can be accomplished through other means?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on May 30, 2020, 02:03:57 am
Vanto keeps using the word "arbitrary" like some magical word of power.

Confisgating guns from people who would use them to commit crimes is not "arbitrary." Telling people to give up guns that are now illegal in exchange for financial compensation is also not the same as some government agent stopping a random car and taking your wallet because "you look funny" which is something that actually happens in USA and is perfectly legal (put "civil forfeiture" into Duck Duck Go) so it's not like there isn't a clear precedent for something like that.

Heck, if the POTUS declared that anyone who has a gun in their possession in USA now has to prove that they got it legally AND that they are not planning to use it for a crime in the future, that would probably be legal according to the current laws in USA.

As for the whole "gun control doesn't work" aspect of the argument... There is no one "gun control" as it is merely the existence of laws limiting the ownership of firearms. There are good ways to do it and bad ways to do it. I like the current EU system for the most parts and it works well enough to merit its existence.

Besides, that argument is a fallacy. Condoms aren't 100% fool proof but we still acknowledge their worth. Traffic laws don't prevent accidents and intentional crimes in the roads perfectly, you could even call it a hit-or-miss chance, but we still agree that some laws are good and necessary. If you demand a change to be PERFECT in order to accept it, you are just opposing any change at all to the current status quo.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RavynousHunter on May 30, 2020, 11:33:29 am
But, Askold, don't you see?  The problem is government!  If we simply dissolved the government and rule of law and instead let free markets and the self-interest of a famously rational species run the world, then all would be well!  We'd be colonizing Mars and fucking hot alien babes and totally not dying of cholera because treating water costs money that could be better spent on Jeff Bezos' personal space program.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Vanto on May 30, 2020, 04:04:24 pm
Vanto keeps using the word "arbitrary" like some magical word of power.

Confisgating guns from people who would use them to commit crimes is not "arbitrary." Telling people to give up guns that are now illegal in exchange for financial compensation is also not the same as some government agent stopping a random car and taking your wallet because "you look funny" which is something that actually happens in USA and is perfectly legal (put "civil forfeiture" into Duck Duck Go) so it's not like there isn't a clear precedent for something like that.

Heck, if the POTUS declared that anyone who has a gun in their possession in USA now has to prove that they got it legally AND that they are not planning to use it for a crime in the future, that would probably be legal according to the current laws in USA.

As for the whole "gun control doesn't work" aspect of the argument... There is no one "gun control" as it is merely the existence of laws limiting the ownership of firearms. There are good ways to do it and bad ways to do it. I like the current EU system for the most parts and it works well enough to merit its existence.

Besides, that argument is a fallacy. Condoms aren't 100% fool proof but we still acknowledge their worth. Traffic laws don't prevent accidents and intentional crimes in the roads perfectly, you could even call it a hit-or-miss chance, but we still agree that some laws are good and necessary. If you demand a change to be PERFECT in order to accept it, you are just opposing any change at all to the current status quo.

Aight, I guess that's a fair criticism. I'll stop.

Why do you think it's acceptable to punish legal gun owners for things they haven't done? Taking away people's property on the basis that it might be used to commit a crime at some point is not a good thing to do.

You think I'm not against civil forfeiture and its abuse? No, I strongly oppose it, and the reasons I'm against it overlap with the reasons I'm against gun control.

I am not saying a solution has to be perfect, just that it shouldn't make the problem worse, as gun control often has. And I notice that you haven't addressed the fact that it's been demonstrated time and again that there is zero correlation between gun control laws and homicide rates. Why advocate for a policy that's been repeatedly proven to not have the impact it's supposed to have?

But, Askold, don't you see?  The problem is government!  If we simply dissolved the government and rule of law and instead let free markets and the self-interest of a famously rational species run the world, then all would be well!  We'd be colonizing Mars and fucking hot alien babes and totally not dying of cholera because treating water costs money that could be better spent on Jeff Bezos' personal space program.

Do you really think I'm an ancap, or are you just being facetious?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: ironbite on May 30, 2020, 07:08:11 pm
We really think you're that stupid yes.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RavynousHunter on May 31, 2020, 10:39:18 am
But, Askold, don't you see?  The problem is government!  If we simply dissolved the government and rule of law and instead let free markets and the self-interest of a famously rational species run the world, then all would be well!  We'd be colonizing Mars and fucking hot alien babes and totally not dying of cholera because treating water costs money that could be better spent on Jeff Bezos' personal space program.

Do you really think I'm an ancap, or are you just being facetious?

Its a reference. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Ul-Efi1Xys)  Admittedly, a bit of an oblique one.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: DarkPhoenix on May 31, 2020, 11:14:48 am

So granting people the freedom to have or do what they want... is authoritarian? Huh?


The argument that you should be allowed to do WHATEVER you want without restriction or your "freedom" is being taken away is the first step in Authoritarian Libertarianism.  First, you claim "freedom" is the ability to do whatever you want, and then you claim the majority is taking away your rights.  This was in fact the argument the Libertarian movement made against DESEGREGATION; that it was wrong for the government or the majority to demand all-white schools accept black children.  They just took it to the logical conclusion; that if the most important thing in the world is that you can do whatever you want, then you should be allowed to deprive OTHER PEOPLE of what they have, because them having things you don't is infringing on your freedom.


You're entitled to your opinion, but that doesn't give you the right to arbitrarily decide what other people can and can't do. I consider the desire to smoke tobacco and marijuana irrational, but I don't want to force people to give up their smoking habits. What I do want is to keep said smoking habits from hurting other people.


It's bullshit to bring into an argument about a tool that exists SOLELY to murder other human beings things that are not.  Smoking does not exist specifically to kill something else.

1. Now I see what you're getting at. But you're indulging in a slippery slope fallacy. More important, that's conflating two entirely different things. My owning whatever guns I like is in no way an infringement on your rights and freedoms.

And since you brought up opposition to desegregation, I feel obligated to remind you that gun control has a well-documented history of racism. I gotta be honest: a big part of why I'm against gun control is because I'm afraid it would be applied in a discriminatory way.

2. Oh, stop being melodramatic. Guns aren't intended "solely to murder other human beings". There are completely legitimate reasons to use them, like hunting and self-defense.

Smoking also kills many more Americans every year than guns. And before you say smokers are only killing themselves, secondhand smoke kills more than 41,000 Americans every year. Even including suicides by firearm and gun-related accidents, only around 33,000 Americans are killed by gunshots annually.

Why have you switch to an argument about "guns" in general?  We're discussing assault rifles, which exist SOLELY to murder other human beings.  You ain't hunting with an assault rifle.

And you claim I'm making a slippery slope fallacy, but what I describe is EXACTLY how things proceeded in Chile in the late 70's under Pinochet, and the architects of that disaster are the same ones pushing for full libertarianism in the West...
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on May 31, 2020, 11:46:35 am
When you have a system as reckless as the one in USA, drastic measures have to be taken in order to have any effect on it.

There is no good national registry of who owns what guns because Yanks are so paranoid about it (read about the system in place and how they are not allowed to use computers or have any type of digitally searchable database just as a "fuck you" by NRA lobbyists.) There are several states where guns can be sold without paperwork or screening if done by private individuals. The sheer amount of guns in USA is so massive that any law that doesn't deal with existing guns as well is not going to have a noticeable effect for several decades.

If you had changed your laws sooner, you might have been able to do something less drastic, now things will continue to get worse until the only real solution is to do something that seems to be way out of proportion.

I support private ownership of guns. Even the scary ones. But only if it is controlled in order to prevent dangerous people from having access to those guns. And the last bit is something that the sheer amount of firearms in USA is making impossible.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Vanto on May 31, 2020, 07:29:52 pm

So granting people the freedom to have or do what they want... is authoritarian? Huh?


The argument that you should be allowed to do WHATEVER you want without restriction or your "freedom" is being taken away is the first step in Authoritarian Libertarianism.  First, you claim "freedom" is the ability to do whatever you want, and then you claim the majority is taking away your rights.  This was in fact the argument the Libertarian movement made against DESEGREGATION; that it was wrong for the government or the majority to demand all-white schools accept black children.  They just took it to the logical conclusion; that if the most important thing in the world is that you can do whatever you want, then you should be allowed to deprive OTHER PEOPLE of what they have, because them having things you don't is infringing on your freedom.


You're entitled to your opinion, but that doesn't give you the right to arbitrarily decide what other people can and can't do. I consider the desire to smoke tobacco and marijuana irrational, but I don't want to force people to give up their smoking habits. What I do want is to keep said smoking habits from hurting other people.


It's bullshit to bring into an argument about a tool that exists SOLELY to murder other human beings things that are not.  Smoking does not exist specifically to kill something else.

1. Now I see what you're getting at. But you're indulging in a slippery slope fallacy. More important, that's conflating two entirely different things. My owning whatever guns I like is in no way an infringement on your rights and freedoms.

And since you brought up opposition to desegregation, I feel obligated to remind you that gun control has a well-documented history of racism. I gotta be honest: a big part of why I'm against gun control is because I'm afraid it would be applied in a discriminatory way.

2. Oh, stop being melodramatic. Guns aren't intended "solely to murder other human beings". There are completely legitimate reasons to use them, like hunting and self-defense.

Smoking also kills many more Americans every year than guns. And before you say smokers are only killing themselves, secondhand smoke kills more than 41,000 Americans every year. Even including suicides by firearm and gun-related accidents, only around 33,000 Americans are killed by gunshots annually.

Why have you switch to an argument about "guns" in general?  We're discussing assault rifles, which exist SOLELY to murder other human beings.  You ain't hunting with an assault rifle.

And you claim I'm making a slippery slope fallacy, but what I describe is EXACTLY how things proceeded in Chile in the late 70's under Pinochet, and the architects of that disaster are the same ones pushing for full libertarianism in the West...

I beg to differ (https://time.com/4390506/gun-control-ar-15-semiautomatic-rifles/).

Not sure what you're talking about with Chile.

When you have a system as reckless as the one in USA, drastic measures have to be taken in order to have any effect on it.

There is no good national registry of who owns what guns because Yanks are so paranoid about it (read about the system in place and how they are not allowed to use computers or have any type of digitally searchable database just as a "fuck you" by NRA lobbyists.) There are several states where guns can be sold without paperwork or screening if done by private individuals. The sheer amount of guns in USA is so massive that any law that doesn't deal with existing guns as well is not going to have a noticeable effect for several decades.

If you had changed your laws sooner, you might have been able to do something less drastic, now things will continue to get worse until the only real solution is to do something that seems to be way out of proportion.

I support private ownership of guns. Even the scary ones. But only if it is controlled in order to prevent dangerous people from having access to those guns. And the last bit is something that the sheer amount of firearms in USA is making impossible.

You know, I can at least understand the ideas you're promoting. Not necessarily agree with them, but certainly see where you're coming from. But there are some important questions that have to be asked. How do we know this database won't be abused? How do we define "dangerous"?

And why do you say that "things will continue to get worse" when gun homicide rates have been dropping for over 20 years? Things aren't as bad here as you seem to think.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: chad sexington on June 01, 2020, 12:11:01 am
(https://preview.redd.it/jx1qne1f5p151.jpg?width=1024&auto=webp&s=6c3770e82d73c26fb2f2b004b3838124708fe228)

Welp, put a mark on the wall, Benny boy made a good comic once in a while. Heck, he's not even using that many labels this time.

Geeze, Garrison must have had a stroke from the struggle between his racism and his anti-cop stance.

This year just keeps getting weirder!
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on June 03, 2020, 07:01:25 pm
(https://images.theweek.com/sites/default/files/239876_rgb_768.png?resize=807x807)

(https://images.theweek.com/sites/default/files/239864_rgb_768.jpg?resize=807x807)

(https://images.theweek.com/sites/default/files/239820_rgb_768.jpg?resize=807x807)

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Classic Garrison is back:

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This is unusually drawn for Garrison (might be one someone did for him):

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This looks like Ben again (especially with Trumps bulging biceps):

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*Spoilered the Garrison Cartoons as they are big

Bonus Steve Bell:

(https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/43cebe748cc600be40522304fcb909b050ed77a4/0_0_3446_2093/master/3446.jpg?width=940&quality=85&auto=format&fit=max&s=da39e34992c205da01383f7f4dc4d2e4)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Skybison on June 20, 2020, 12:28:21 pm
(https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/174c44d03f6f600923ccc31e708c87ec9fa0936a6874033a325fd6e857200a2c.png)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: DarkPhoenix on June 20, 2020, 03:05:45 pm
(https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/174c44d03f6f600923ccc31e708c87ec9fa0936a6874033a325fd6e857200a2c.png)

This one's actually very simple to explain.  MAGAts believe THEY shouldn't EVER be told what to do, but everyone who isn't a MAGAt?  They should do whatever the MAGAts say or else...
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Id82 on June 20, 2020, 06:25:49 pm
It's more like conservatives are reactionary and protest against change or anything that goes against the status quo. Liberals protest for change and conservatives don't understand why you would try to change something that works perfectly fine for them.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on June 21, 2020, 01:54:06 am
Quote from: Ambrose Bierce
Conservative, n. A statesman who is enamored of existing evils, as distinguished from the Liberal, who wishes to replace them with others.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on June 21, 2020, 07:23:35 pm
Garrison update - Spoilered because mostly they are massive.

This first one is classic Garrison before he really got into the racism:

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This one is classic post racism Garrison:
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This one is part of his series on General Flynn:

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This one is about John Bolton's book and is really unusual as it actually shows Trump as weak:

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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: niam2023 on June 21, 2020, 09:12:07 pm
The Walrus really has Garrison freaked out going by the overwhelming presence Bolton has.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Id82 on June 22, 2020, 12:55:22 pm
Maybe he loves Bolton more than he loves Trump?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on June 22, 2020, 07:30:12 pm
No he doesn't like Bolton because he's a warmonger but Garrison, like Trump, has a fascination with people who appear strong.

Bolton himself is clearly a massive piece of shit blaming the democrats for stuffing up the impeachment but refusing to testify unless forced.

(https://images.theweek.com/sites/default/files/cb061920dapr.jpg?resize=807x807)

Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: DarkPhoenix on June 23, 2020, 01:04:45 am
No he doesn't like Bolton because he's a warmonger but Garrison, like Trump, has a fascination with people who appear strong.

Bolton himself is clearly a massive piece of shit blaming the democrats for stuffing up the impeachment but refusing to testify unless forced.

(https://images.theweek.com/sites/default/files/cb061920dapr.jpg?resize=807x807)

Personally, I don't think it was entirely due to his book.  Ultimately, Bolton's a Republican; even though he hates Trump, he's one of those hoping that the Repub Party bounces back from Trumpism and he can join it again.  So he doesn't want to appear to be working with the Dems.  Hence doing everything in his power to not testify, despite knowing full well crimes were committed.  And bashing the Dems now for "not widening the scope" is for Fox News.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on June 23, 2020, 02:40:18 am
In fairness, they should have widened the scope; Trump has indisputably been in violation of the Constitution literally since the moment he took the oath of office.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Kanzenkankaku on June 23, 2020, 09:06:54 pm
Implying any of the entrenched political class actually wanted the guy out as much as the American people generally do. There were a couple crimes of his they could have gotten him on but they also enabled plenty of the authoritarian shit. Pelosi, for example, aided Trump by extending warrant-less domestic surveillance when other better democrats (like Ellison) were introducing bills to try and stop it. I'm convinced that blowback of Pelosi's own involvement with helping Trump violate laws and people's rights being pointed out is the only reason a more comprehensive case wasn't put forward. We need a better speaker candidate that has all of the good ideas socially the democrats represent but who also has enough of a spine to do more than just symbolically standing up to Trump by calling him fat and like... actually stop allowing the persecution that arises from giving unlimited powers to the shadiest parts of the american intelligence apparatus
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on June 23, 2020, 10:00:19 pm
In fairness on the point, Congress ceding more and more power to the President has been going on for decades, well before any of the current crop were anywhere near office.

It needs to be undone but that would take supermajorities to override, which because of how partisan US politics has become is basically impossible. Neither side is willing to strip away power from the Presidency as long as it's their person in charge.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: niam2023 on June 23, 2020, 11:20:46 pm
Implying any of the entrenched political class actually wanted the guy out as much as the American people generally do. There were a couple crimes of his they could have gotten him on but they also enabled plenty of the authoritarian shit. Pelosi, for example, aided Trump by extending warrant-less domestic surveillance when other better democrats (like Ellison) were introducing bills to try and stop it. I'm convinced that blowback of Pelosi's own involvement with helping Trump violate laws and people's rights being pointed out is the only reason a more comprehensive case wasn't put forward. We need a better speaker candidate that has all of the good ideas socially the democrats represent but who also has enough of a spine to do more than just symbolically standing up to Trump by calling him fat and like... actually stop allowing the persecution that arises from giving unlimited powers to the shadiest parts of the american intelligence apparatus

Just admit you want to call them "The Deep State", but you don't want people to think you're crazy as shit.

This reads like pure conspiracy-mongering. You have no proof about your assertions, any more than the average Trump Supporter rambling on about the Deep State. Pelosi's been incredibly competent in minimizing losses during the Trump years, so I'd be interested in hearing who you'd think might be a "better speaker of the house".

But then, I'm a damn dirty corporate democrat myself, so...I guess I'm just corrupt from a base level.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on June 30, 2020, 09:53:43 pm
This is classic Garrison. Just a little light on the racism:

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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: DarkPhoenix on July 01, 2020, 01:44:06 pm
This is classic Garrison. Just a little light on the racism:

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I'd call it Classic Moron myself...
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Kanzenkankaku on July 08, 2020, 05:39:27 am
Implying any of the entrenched political class actually wanted the guy out as much as the American people generally do. There were a couple crimes of his they could have gotten him on but they also enabled plenty of the authoritarian shit. Pelosi, for example, aided Trump by extending warrant-less domestic surveillance when other better democrats (like Ellison) were introducing bills to try and stop it. I'm convinced that blowback of Pelosi's own involvement with helping Trump violate laws and people's rights being pointed out is the only reason a more comprehensive case wasn't put forward. We need a better speaker candidate that has all of the good ideas socially the democrats represent but who also has enough of a spine to do more than just symbolically standing up to Trump by calling him fat and like... actually stop allowing the persecution that arises from giving unlimited powers to the shadiest parts of the american intelligence apparatus

Just admit you want to call them "The Deep State", but you don't want people to think you're crazy as shit.

This reads like pure conspiracy-mongering. You have no proof about your assertions, any more than the average Trump Supporter rambling on about the Deep State. Pelosi's been incredibly competent in minimizing losses during the Trump years, so I'd be interested in hearing who you'd think might be a "better speaker of the house".

But then, I'm a damn dirty corporate democrat myself, so...I guess I'm just corrupt from a base level.

https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/democrats-just-handed-trump-more-domestic-surveillance-powers-they-should-ncna836836
Keep putting your fingers in your ears and yelling fake news and projecting on levels only MAGApedes and IMAX had reached lol.

She only a couple months ago had to postpone the vote on renewing it when forced to by better congressional leaders
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/05/27/fisa-renewal-limbo-284025 (I originally got a hit for this story from the NY Post but replaced it with Politico because the Post is a godawful shitrag that deserves no clicks. I'm so glad I had adblock on when I ended up on that hell website)

And we see this again unfortunately with the PATRIOT extension in November last year that names several generally progressive people who capitulated unfortunately
https://www.salon.com/2019/11/26/progressives-in-congress-just-capitulated-on-the-patriot-act-its-time-to-push-back/

Then the lack of coverage for the freshly unemployed that as of yet hasn't been added afaik
https://prospect.org/blogs/tap/laid-off-workers-lost-health-coverage-coronavirus/

Not to mention Pelosi rolling over and voting for something literally nicknamed the "Blue Lives Matter" bill
https://theintercept.com/2018/05/19/blue-lives-matter-bill-police-brutality/
http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2018/roll188.xml (link to the house voting sheet)
Important to note that more solid progressive leaders like Jayapal,Barbara Lee, and Maxine Waters all voted AGAINST the bill. Not to mention orgs like the NAACP, the ACLU, and Human Rights Watch suggesting to vote no.

Then theres stuff like FOSTA/SESTA which harmed sex workers which she's failed to lead on, while her challenger Shahid Buttar has been vocal about fixing the problems of, as had Elizabeth Warren, who was calling for investigations into those laws
https://www.pinknews.co.uk/2019/12/17/fosta-sesta-elizabeth-warren-international-day-end-violence-sex-workers-trans-rights/

It's not a conspiracy theory at all to state how much she fails in many regards as a leader. Any number of people would make good speakers: Barbara Lee, Maxine Waters, literally any of the Squad upon a couple more terms of experience. That's just off the top of my head, as I don't know literally every democrat in the HoR since there's several hundred last I checked.

I'm just a bit frustrated at all of this. To her credit she has staunchly opposed Trump on bombing Yemen and Iran warmongering, but I can't trust her to do the same should a democrat be in the presidency like how she just let Obama bomb Libya into smithereens and left it worse than it was beforehand. I just want somebody who is consistent in standing against abuse of authority rather than "eh maybe sometimes I'll do that if you really force me to" but being otherwise complicit.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on July 15, 2020, 01:39:06 am
(https://i2.wp.com/leftycartoons.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/23/2020/07/capitalism-and-socialism.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Vanto on July 17, 2020, 12:44:48 am
(https://i2.wp.com/leftycartoons.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/23/2020/07/capitalism-and-socialism.jpg)

I'm not entirely sure I understand this cartoon.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on July 17, 2020, 12:52:22 am
It's pointing out how all the people who tout the wonders of capitalism (and, by extension, decry socialism), are suddenly socialism's biggest fans as soon as things go badly.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Vanto on July 17, 2020, 01:13:25 am
It's pointing out how all the people who tout the wonders of capitalism (and, by extension, decry socialism), are suddenly socialism's biggest fans as soon as things go badly.

By "socialism", do you mean things like command economies and social ownership of the means of production? Or do you mean things like bailouts and economic stimulus?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Id82 on July 17, 2020, 08:27:04 am
Bailouts and economic stimulus.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on July 17, 2020, 11:06:34 am
Bailouts and economic stimulus.

Yes, that. Government largesse, basically.

Now, of course, the US has a socialist system, but only for rich people and large corporations, as Dr. King observed.

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Whenever the government provides opportunities in privileges for white people and rich people they call it “subsidized” when they do it for Negro and poor people they call it “welfare.” The fact that is the everybody in this country lives on welfare. Suburbia was built with federally subsidized credit. And highways that take our white brothers out to the suburbs were built with federally subsidized money to the tune of 90 percent. Everybody is on welfare in this country. The problem is that we all too often have socialism for the rich and rugged free enterprise capitalism for the poor. That’s the problem.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Vanto on July 17, 2020, 05:18:27 pm
Bailouts and economic stimulus.

Yes, that. Government largesse, basically.

Now, of course, the US has a socialist system, but only for rich people and large corporations, as Dr. King observed.

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Whenever the government provides opportunities in privileges for white people and rich people they call it “subsidized” when they do it for Negro and poor people they call it “welfare.” The fact that is the everybody in this country lives on welfare. Suburbia was built with federally subsidized credit. And highways that take our white brothers out to the suburbs were built with federally subsidized money to the tune of 90 percent. Everybody is on welfare in this country. The problem is that we all too often have socialism for the rich and rugged free enterprise capitalism for the poor. That’s the problem.

I've long been critical of corporate welfare, but it's not "socialism for the rich". Despite what some wingnuts and lolbertarians like to say, there's nothing inherently socialist about welfare.

And even if it were, then we don't have "socialism for the rich, capitalism for the poor". I don't know what things were like in the 60s, but nowadays, the US federal government spends between $200 billion and $1 trillion on welfare every year, depending on how welfare is defined.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Skybison on July 18, 2020, 12:14:37 am
^I think that's the point.  Conservatives who attack welfare programs and equate them with socialism generally don't have a problem with government intervention that helps them.  I agree that welfare programs aren't the same thing as socialism but the terms have become so interchangeable because of right wingers calling everything they don't like socialist that I don't think it's worth getting technical about it.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on August 19, 2020, 03:38:13 am
While this is classic Garrison I am really craving Garrison's sexy Kamala Harrison cartoons:

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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on August 19, 2020, 03:44:22 pm
I mean... he's not wrong. And a lot of those are contradictions (except for the Indian/Black bit, since her ancestry makes her both).
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on August 30, 2020, 06:27:13 pm
(https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/a065bc17dc8527d69ad36d7f73812af6a34c7a04/0_0_3077_1875/master/3077.jpg?width=940&quality=85&auto=format&fit=max&s=4b9b8a6fed47add7219780d730234e28)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Id82 on August 30, 2020, 11:47:57 pm
That pictures scary.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Kanzenkankaku on September 10, 2020, 02:10:19 am
It's pointing out how all the people who tout the wonders of capitalism (and, by extension, decry socialism), are suddenly socialism's biggest fans as soon as things go badly.

isn't it more: "people will blame the boogieman of socialism when capitalism leads to something bad"?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on September 10, 2020, 04:10:06 am
It's pointing out how all the people who tout the wonders of capitalism (and, by extension, decry socialism), are suddenly socialism's biggest fans as soon as things go badly.

isn't it more: "people will blame the boogieman of socialism when capitalism leads to something bad"?

That also happens, but the cartoon was making a different point.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on September 17, 2020, 12:02:27 am
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Tolpuddle Martyr on October 06, 2020, 08:57:54 pm
(https://scontent.fmel5-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/120473530_4429012570502196_331747660456360768_o.jpg?_nc_cat=102&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=arFbp8GDhMIAX_50dXZ&_nc_ht=scontent.fmel5-1.fna&oh=a4c6f63c1be804149ddcba67c9bbdb9d&oe=5FA245F1)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on October 16, 2020, 05:26:58 am
(https://i1.wp.com/leftycartoons.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/23/2020/10/my-liberal-beliefs-right-wing-shield.jpg)

EDIT:

(https://alchetron.com/cdn/matt-bors-4ad7e9a6-e401-4577-977c-78ba1fdc50f-resize-750.png)

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(https://i1.wp.com/leftycartoons.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/23/2020/10/supreme-court-packing.jpg)

(https://i2.wp.com/leftycartoons.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/23/2020/10/election-promises-politician-big-plan.png)

(https://i0.wp.com/leftycartoons.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/23/2020/10/great-anti-voting-cycle-democracy-gop-republican.png)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Skybison on November 08, 2020, 03:20:38 am
(https://comicallyincorrect.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/01-biden-bullies-dt-1080-700x450.jpg)

Sic em! 
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: DarkPhoenix on November 08, 2020, 11:49:36 pm
(https://comicallyincorrect.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/01-biden-bullies-dt-1080-700x450.jpg)

Sic em!

Yep, the Deep State is so powerful it could help Biden win, but it couldn't prevent Trump from getting 70 million votes or keep the Republicans from winning a bunch of Senate seats...

Then again, your enemies being both insanely powerful and insanely weak is a trademark of fascism...
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Id82 on November 09, 2020, 04:28:59 pm
No no you see you're not making any sense. The Deep state helps them kidnap children to rape and torture so they can stay young forever drinking the secretions from the children's adrenal glands.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on November 11, 2020, 12:38:22 am
(https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/56bca91d891281c870583c7fe6f2e85c8498f295/0_0_3061_1860/master/3061.jpg?width=940&quality=85&auto=format&fit=max&s=e03043199da8382fb9029fe37c4d73d3)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on November 22, 2020, 02:05:32 am
(https://static.politico.com/dims4/default/a9852cd/2147483647/resize/1160x%3E/quality/90/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fstatic.politico.com%2Fe5%2F21%2Fb4784e8a42f497434cf0a4ad29e1%2F12-nick-anderson-counterpoint.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on November 22, 2020, 02:06:06 am
Ah yes, another of Nixon's legacies.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on December 08, 2020, 05:24:32 pm
I thought they were never going to let go of Hilary. But they are never going to let go of Obama (like Hugo Chavez he will torment them beyond the grave)

(https://theweek.com/cartoons/953718/political-cartoon-darth-obama-biden)

Edit: Ahh I can't get the image to work - here's a link https://theweek.com/cartoons/953718/political-cartoon-darth-obama-biden (https://theweek.com/cartoons/953718/political-cartoon-darth-obama-biden)

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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Id82 on December 08, 2020, 07:09:24 pm
Poor Garrison. Who's he going to jerk off too now that Trump is leaving office?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on December 08, 2020, 09:04:12 pm
Trump didn't even win Nevada last time.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RavynousHunter on December 09, 2020, 01:40:04 pm
Trump didn't even win Nevada last time.

Oh, you silly cunt.  Don't you know?  Trump really won every state!  He's objectively the World's Best President (TM) who won by a landslide so historic, the Founding Fathers themselves came back from the dead just to weep at how clearly he captured the hearts and minds of the people of their dearest America and at the beauty and majesty of True Democracy.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on December 09, 2020, 02:19:33 pm
Poor Garrison. Who's he going to jerk off too now that Trump is leaving office?

I forgot to reply to this, but my money is on Mitch McConnell.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on December 09, 2020, 05:41:06 pm
No McConnell is super swampy. Even Garrison knows that. He'll go back to Rand and Ron Paul or simply continue jerking off over the true leader. Like the welsh waiting for the return of an orange obese King Arthur
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on December 09, 2020, 06:18:08 pm
No McConnell is super swampy. Even Garrison knows that. He'll go back to Rand and Ron Paul or simply continue jerking off over the true leader. Like the welsh waiting for the return of an orange obese King Arthur

McConnell is super-swampy but (unless Warnock and Ossoff both win) he'll be the only thing holding back the "radical left" from destroying everything Good and Pure about American society.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Skybison on December 12, 2020, 10:01:36 am
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on December 15, 2020, 05:51:37 pm
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Quote
Oompa loompa doompety dee
If you are wise you’ll listen to me.

What do you get when you hide Hunter’s crimes?

A return to the Swamp with all the other slimes.

What do you get when your bagpipes you blow?

Two years of blowing with nothing to show.

Trump doesn’t like the look of that!

 

Attorney General Bill Barr parted amicably with President Trump. Or so we’re told.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on December 30, 2020, 03:04:52 am
Garrison on the otherhand is a genius (Almost Dees Like) - because of course Obama is still running things rather than seriously cashing in with his book:

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And the investigation into the investigation is wrapping up with nothing after the election because they are part of the deepstate rather than the whole thing being a charade for the GOP

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This one however is a little scary but heres hoping most of these people are windbags rather than terrorists:

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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Skybison on December 31, 2020, 01:29:35 pm
I used to laugh at Garrison but that last one... yikes he's gone full BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD TREE!

Also a meme not a cartoon but worth posting
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Id82 on December 31, 2020, 01:59:45 pm
So if we didn't have gamer gate we wouldn't have had the alt right?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on December 31, 2020, 05:49:45 pm
It might not have emerged quite as rapidly as it did. Gamergate was a Trojan horse for the alt right to slip into mainstream dialogue under cover of something innocuous like "ethics in gaming journalism".
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Skybison on January 01, 2021, 03:01:42 pm
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Tolpuddle Martyr on January 07, 2021, 11:22:52 pm
Simple, meme based but on point.

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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Tolpuddle Martyr on January 08, 2021, 04:57:24 pm
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on January 26, 2021, 06:40:32 pm
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on January 26, 2021, 07:25:41 pm
I'm surprised they haven't rolled out some good old anti-Catholic tropes against Biden.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on January 31, 2021, 04:48:28 pm
(https://static.politico.com/dims4/default/edaef14/2147483647/resize/1160x%3E/quality/90/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fstatic.politico.com%2F30%2F7a%2F616215a64c80bd032eb9d1b4a397%2F15-tom-tomorrow.jpg)

(https://theweek.com/cartoons/964993/political-cartoon-kaepernick-gop-cancel-culture)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on February 08, 2021, 05:31:01 pm
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: niam2023 on February 08, 2021, 06:44:54 pm
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Madison Cawthorn Distilled down to his basic elements.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on February 08, 2021, 09:50:47 pm
Ben Garrison manages in two consecutive cartoons to in the first one promote treason and in the very next cartoon suggest that Biden is putting America last (as opposed to treason which is fine). For all that these guys pretend that they love Lincoln or that the GOP are the party of Lincoln they seem to forget that the whole point was that secession is treason - one nation, indivisible...

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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cloud3514 on February 08, 2021, 10:15:22 pm
The executive order hypocrisy should also be noted. Trump signed 220 executive orders compared to Obama's 276 in twice as much time. In fact, the only presidents in the last 40 years to sign more executive orders in one term were Nixon and Carter.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on February 09, 2021, 12:52:51 am
I always chuckle when people bring up treason in the context of the Confederate States of America and their secession given that the United States of America was literally founded on people committing treason and seceding from the British Empire.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Skybison on February 09, 2021, 11:52:05 pm
Why is McConnell alongside the democrats in that cartoon?  How does Ben think he's on the same team as Obama?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cloud3514 on February 09, 2021, 11:55:22 pm
I'm pretty sure that's supposed to be Bernie Sanders, actually. It's a fuck awful likeness, though. I also thought it was McConnell at first.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on February 10, 2021, 12:07:22 am
Keep in mind, there's reports that McConnell wants Trump to be convicted, he just can't corral enough of his caucus so he's voting with the bulk of them. (So far, that's two votes on the trial's constitutionality--the second one declared it constitutional by a 56-44 vote, with Cassidy, Collins, Murkowski, Romney, Sasse and Toomey voting with the Democratic and Independent Senators; Cassidy voted to declare it unconstitutional the first time it came up but switched for this one.)

As a conservative acquaintance of mine noted, conservative legal opinion is pretty united on the question of whether the Senate can try Trump (they all say that it can), and so this is just a way for Republican Senators to signal on the one hand that they're pro-Trump while on the other hand giving themselves a fig leaf of cover to say that they think they shouldn't be voting on it in the first place, and so they'll vote to acquit on principle since a conviction would be an unconstitutional exercise of power.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on February 10, 2021, 12:16:07 am
Pretty sure it is McConnell - Garrison can do  Sanders.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Skybison on February 13, 2021, 01:27:11 am
EDIT: Sorry wrong thread.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on February 21, 2021, 04:33:20 pm
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Skybison on March 17, 2021, 11:28:03 am
Shaggy figures out the truth

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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on April 04, 2021, 05:31:46 pm
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EDIT:

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EDIT #2:

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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on July 22, 2021, 01:54:44 am
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Skybison on July 24, 2021, 12:57:29 am
hey davedan have you seen ben Garrison"s latest?

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E5zhH-nXIAEhMlD?format=jpg&name=large)

Yep Trump is like Don Quixote charging windmills.  But that's soppossed to make trump look good.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on July 25, 2021, 06:41:52 pm
That is so brilliant in so many ways.

The whole point of the windmills which Don Quixote was tilting at was that they weren't really a threat, so China, Censorship, Twitter, Facebook and Google aren't threats and Free Speech protection is deluded.

But how the fuck does a windmill run. The windmills picked up Don Quixote in the story and brained him. Presumably trump is safe from braining.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Skybison on July 25, 2021, 07:25:03 pm
It's not even the only time Garrison's done that either

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E5yhwL1WQAQEVwl.jpg:large)

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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on July 25, 2021, 10:27:04 pm
Here's Garrison's response:

Who Knew the Left would Lose their minds over a “cartoon”

He who laughs last..laughs best

Apparently nobody read my post about Trump charging a windmill. They said I didn’t understand the Don Quixote metaphor. In my post I explained I did indeed understand it, but as an artist I’m free to take liberties with any metaphor I like.

This is the part where Ben speaks slowly so the mentally challenged Left can understand:

Trump was riding a strong steed and carried a lawsuit lance. He had the social media windmill on the chase.

Not exactly what Cervantes wrote, eh? No need to apologize to him since he’s been dead for centuries.

People knew I was bending the metaphor to communicate a point but they didn’t care.

They just used it as an excuse to attack Trump and his supporters. That’s their prerogative. That’s what they do.

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For my next cartoon I will show Trump defeating the great white whale. Just kidding.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on July 26, 2021, 01:37:11 am
So again, Garrison is a moron with delusions of grandieur.



When you bend a well known metaphor like that, you should know that people will not understand what you mean with it. Especially since your "I am totally doing this intentionally" explanation was separate from the cartoon and thus most people did not see it.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cloud3514 on July 26, 2021, 03:32:29 am
Of course it's not surprising in any sense of the word that Garrison is corncobbing over this. I don't believe for a second that he was missing the point intentionally. There's creative liberties and then there's reading something as literally the exact opposite of what the thing is saying.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on July 30, 2021, 01:48:08 am
I guess Garrison knows what tossing salad refers to as well:

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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cloud3514 on July 31, 2021, 08:54:40 pm
I find it pretty uncomfortable, albeit unsurprising, that the right has taken Biden's occasional misspeaks, which are generally caused by his stutter, as "proof" that he's got dementia. At least the armchair diagnoses died down for the most part from the Twitter Roses.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: niam2023 on August 01, 2021, 11:08:29 am
There's also the rank hypocrisy of it considering they ignore the various signs that MANY things are wrong with Donald Trump.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on August 01, 2021, 09:53:05 pm
I was thinking more of the insinuation of latent homosexuality, which is emphasised by his leg being raised behind him. Especially funny given trumps obsession with big burly tough guys.

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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on September 05, 2021, 12:19:27 pm
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: chad sexington on September 28, 2021, 08:46:58 pm
Ben Garrison does not understand idioms.  Ben Garrison does not understand very much at all.  Ben Garrison does however have Covid  :D

https://gizmodo.com/anti-vaccine-cartoonist-ben-garrison-says-hes-got-covid-1847749901
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Askold on October 07, 2021, 04:05:36 am
"It was to be expected that he would get sick. Covid-19 didn't walk up to him with a giant label on it."
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on May 08, 2022, 07:22:34 pm
(https://www.politico.com/dims4/default/3f78b37/2147483647/resize/1160x%3E/quality/90/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fstatic.politico.com%2F89%2F9e%2Fea067ed94da0a3cedd99b1f7abcb%2F15-tom-tomorrow.jpg)

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This is brilliant, although it raises many questions -for instance why is the blue fairy (presumably democratic have a MAGA wand) although I am impressed by the restraint in not depicting the blue fairy as a trans woman)

(https://grrrgraphics.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/pinocchio_joe-biden-fake-president.jpg)
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Kanzenkankaku on May 19, 2022, 06:49:27 am
maybe she has a maga wand because he cant go one comic without making a donald trump reference. our man benjamin is obsessed with the dude from the apprentice.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Skybison on June 07, 2022, 07:53:13 pm
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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on July 20, 2022, 07:28:55 pm
Garrison likes it to wiggle wiggle

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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Cloud3514 on July 21, 2022, 12:03:33 am
That... is uncomfortably thirsty for Garrison.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on July 21, 2022, 04:25:46 am
Garrison is notoriously thirsty.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on August 30, 2022, 05:57:03 pm
Not sure what this means, that Ultra Maga are going to subvert the rule of law?

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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Tolpuddle Martyr on September 05, 2022, 09:09:36 pm
Didn't Garrison go sour on Trump for a while?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on September 06, 2022, 11:53:39 pm
If he did, it didn't last long.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: Tolpuddle Martyr on September 07, 2022, 09:08:48 am
Yeah, that was it. He threw a wobbly because his daddy wasn't sufficiently anti-science, which upset him.

(https://jrmora.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/trump-vaccine.jpg)

Guess all is forgiven.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: dpareja on September 07, 2022, 06:56:06 pm
Trump was (rightly) proud of Operation Warp Speed, which created vaccines for COVID far faster than anyone had anticipated; he was eventually advised not to talk about that success for fear of alienating certain segments of his base who are staunchly against vaccines, or at least those particular vaccines.

So Trump went from calling out people like Ron DeSantis for refusing to talk about their vaccination status to having complete radio silence on the question of COVID vaccines.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on September 25, 2022, 11:29:06 pm
Garrison however is really Anti-Vax and weird

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Spoilered because massive
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: RavynousHunter on September 27, 2022, 12:52:43 pm
He knows Voldemort was the bad guy...right?
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on October 06, 2022, 12:09:09 am
(https://www.politico.com/dims4/default/9498e12/2147483647/resize/1160x%3E/quality/90/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fstatic.politico.com%2F5b%2Fc2%2F21f95b404156939a6f3caa5f4831%2F12-tom-tomorrow.jpg)

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Bonus Garrison:

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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on February 27, 2023, 05:44:36 pm
Garrison on Scott Adams, don't worry he has labeled it in case you couldn't tell :

(https://grrrgraphics.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/Scott_Adams-cncelled-race-relations-2023.jpg)

He has given his explanation too:

First of all, I want to say I hold no malice toward Scott Adams, nor do I wish his business to fail or his revenue to decline. Scott is a public figure who wants to attract more attention to himself as a ‘persuader’ and influencer. He has every right to say unpopular things and leverage his First Amendment right of free speech. He should not be punished by having his popular comic strip, ‘Dilbert,’ cancelled as a result. Scott knows newspapers are dying,  and being canceled by them improves his brand by making him a victim of cancel culture.

Adams talked about a poll which revealed nearly half of black Americans thought it was not OK to be white. This is not surprising. Joe Biden himself stated white Americans were on their way to becoming a minority in America and it was a ‘good thing.’ Really, Joe? How is that good exactly? Joe claimed to be a uniter, but he has done all he can to divide the country and racial division is always pushed by Democrats. White people are consistently demonized by Democrats and corporate media. Why is the poll surprising? It should be expected.

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Adams stated on his YouTube broadcast, “If nearly half of all blacks are not OK with white people—according to this poll—not according to me, then that’s a hate group.” He then said white people needed to stay away from black people because such animosity was impossible to fix.

Race relations may be impossible to fix, but Scott may be missing a larger perspective. In America, it’s legal to hate others. Hate speech is legal too. It’s OK to be white, and it’s OK for black people to hate white people and vice versa. It’s a prerogative based on freedom. What’s not free or legal is acting upon that hate with violence toward other races. That is against the law. We are a Republic based on the rule of law and the equal application of the law. Our justice system must be blind toward race. That’s why when we see the statue of Lady Justice holding up her scales, she appears blindfolded. Justice is meted out based on facts and evidence—not on hate. If we had an equitable rather than equal justice system, it would then be based on race and hate. White folk would be convicted more frequently simply because of their race, while black people would be freed no matter how damning the evidence against them might be. This is already happening. A great many Soros-funded prosecutors let criminals go free simply based on their appearance—not the evidence.

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The Marxist, woke ideology infecting our country uses equity to deepen the race relations divide. They want us all fighting against each other instead of uniting together as Americans. We must recognize the ‘Diversity, Inclusion, and Equity’ mantra for what it is: DIE.

Unfortunately, critical race theory and ‘woke-ism’ have become too deeply ingrained into corporate America as well as our political institutions, schools, military, the court system, and especially the mainstream media.

Anyone who dares raise facts or statistics that paint favored races in a bad light is instantly branded a ‘racist.’ Then comes the attack on their ability to make a living. Social media bans them. They are shunned and even banks are willing to close their accounts. They are canceled. De-personed. Demonized. Scott Adams must have been aware that his comic strip would be widely dropped, but since newspaper viewership continues its sharp decline, perhaps it’s his way to retire it while he continues to say controversial things that attracts more attention to his online presentations.

Good luck, Scott.
Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on May 25, 2023, 08:25:48 pm
I love Maga infighting:

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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on February 20, 2024, 05:55:42 pm
Garrison never fails. I have also discovered AF Branco but he does not belong in this thread.

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Title: Re: Best Political Cartoons
Post by: davedan on February 29, 2024, 05:24:38 pm

Even for Garrison, the idea that the guy who stacked the Supreme Court for the Republicans carries water for the democrats is a huge fucking stretch

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