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Re: Anti-vaxxers are dumb thread
« Reply #45 on: May 05, 2014, 05:58:25 pm »

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Re: Anti-vaxxers are dumb thread
« Reply #46 on: May 05, 2014, 07:12:52 pm »
*snipped for length*

... I almost want to suggest you spoiler that whole thing for sheer size, but at the same time, the rebuttal is fucking amazing.
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Re: Anti-vaxxers are dumb thread
« Reply #47 on: May 05, 2014, 07:13:08 pm »
Pretty sure polio and many of these other illnesses aren't "mild", but whatever.
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Re: Anti-vaxxers are dumb thread
« Reply #48 on: May 05, 2014, 07:25:53 pm »

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Re: Anti-vaxxers are dumb thread
« Reply #49 on: May 05, 2014, 10:20:47 pm »
I'd like the rebuttal better if it weren't written in all caps.

Also, with all the risks children go through every day, why are vaccines the unacceptable one?  They're probably more at risk riding in the car with you than they are getting an adverse reaction from a vaccine.

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Re: Anti-vaxxers are dumb thread
« Reply #50 on: May 05, 2014, 10:56:21 pm »
Also, with all the risks children go through every day, why are vaccines the unacceptable one?  They're probably more at risk riding in the car with you than they are getting an adverse reaction from a vaccine.

The short answer is people are stupid about cost-benefit analysis.

The long answer is the various ways people can be stupid in this regard, including:

When evaluating two courses of action (not vaccinating vs vaccinating), people who are uncertain tend to default to doing nothing.

Related to the above, parents are much more likely to feel guilty over side-effects of vaccinating than those of not vaccinating, because it's framed as "a choice I made" vs "something that happened". This still applies with things that aren't actually caused by vaccines as long as the person believes it was (autism being the obvious example).

Injecting things is scary because it's "artificial", disease is less so because it's "natural".

People are way more tolerant of risks that bring convenience (driving) than risks that don't or are mildly inconvenient, because the risk is abstract and the convenience is concrete.

And other stuff I can't think of at the moment.
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Re: Anti-vaxxers are dumb thread
« Reply #51 on: May 06, 2014, 11:09:55 am »
^^ "Other stuff" includes anti-vaxxers having been lucky enough to grow up in a society where vaccination has curbed the spread of disease, never witnessing first-hand how dangerous these conditions can be.
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Re: Anti-vaxxers are dumb thread
« Reply #52 on: May 06, 2014, 12:51:14 pm »



They mentioned the same damned thing twice.  SIDS is death, you god damned morons, its in the fucking acronym.  I wish to hell it were legal to sneak freaking vaccines into these fuckers' diets or something.  Your freedom to be a retard ends where the safety of society, perhaps even our species, begins.

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Re: Anti-vaxxers are dumb thread
« Reply #53 on: May 06, 2014, 05:22:30 pm »
SIDS might be a fatal form of infant sleep apnea. Or just an undetected heart defect. Or a post partum embolism. Or the baby instinctively knows that its parents are anti-vaxers and dies of embarrassment.
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Re: Anti-vaxxers are dumb thread
« Reply #54 on: May 06, 2014, 06:51:50 pm »
Ah yes, Shamed Infant Death Syndrome.
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Re: Anti-vaxxers are dumb thread
« Reply #56 on: May 14, 2014, 09:44:21 am »
Because Penn and Teller are awesome.

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Re: Anti-vaxxers are dumb thread
« Reply #57 on: May 15, 2014, 04:51:56 pm »
Because Penn and Teller are awesome.

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When they aren't on Libertarded rants, Penn and Teller are pretty damned agreeable fellows.
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Re: Anti-vaxxers are dumb thread
« Reply #58 on: May 29, 2014, 08:54:03 pm »
Even a stopped clock...

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/vaccinations-are-proven-to-work-melinda-gates-stephen-harper-1.2658688

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Prime Minister Stephen Harper says he doesn’t understand why people in the developed world don’t get vaccinated.

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“It's hard for me not to get very emotional about this because we know, we scientifically know, what vaccinations and immunizations have done for us, personally, in our generation and for generations after us,” he said on the second day of the government's maternal, newborn and child health summit.

“I frankly don't understand people who are walking away in our society from something that's proven to work.”

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Also, measles is definitely making a comeback.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/health/measles-in-u-s-at-record-high-level-since-1996-1.2658285

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Measles outbreaks seem to be accelerating, and in the last five months have caused more U.S. illnesses than in any entire year since 1996.

Health officials say 307 cases have been reported since New Year's Day. About half have been in the past month — most from a huge outbreak in unvaccinated Amish communities in Ohio.

Okay. That's it. Fuck it. I don't care about preferences or philosophies or whatever other such bullshit. These diseases are deadly and preventable. Everyone gets three options: get vaccinated, get proof that you cannot be vaccinated for medical reasons, or be quarantined until you do one of the previous two things. Letting people who have no medical reason not to be vaccinated run around picking up these illnesses and spreading them, especially to the people in that second group, has to stop.

Vaccine, proof, or quarantine. That's it.
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Re: Anti-vaxxers are dumb thread
« Reply #59 on: June 04, 2014, 10:05:51 am »
Okay. That's it. Fuck it. I don't care about preferences or philosophies or whatever other such bullshit. These diseases are deadly and preventable. Everyone gets three options: get vaccinated, get proof that you cannot be vaccinated for medical reasons, or be quarantined until you do one of the previous two things. Letting people who have no medical reason not to be vaccinated run around picking up these illnesses and spreading them, especially to the people in that second group, has to stop.

Vaccine, proof, or quarantine. That's it.

But...AUTISM!  Do you WANT the atheo-Muslim Nazi conspiracy with their FEMA work camps and death panels to win?!  WHY DO YOU HATE AMERICA?!
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