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Community => Entertainment and Television => Topic started by: Shane for Wax on February 03, 2012, 08:49:58 pm
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Why in the world do we not have more information about the Mandalorians? I mean their early culture. We've got history but the cultural aspects are lacking. Though there's also early history to think about: How did we get from Dha Werda Verda to the Mandalorians we know? I think we can all see the huge differences between the humanoid Mandalorians and the Dha Werda Verda Mandalorians. Unless I'm confused. But the early history I've found doesn't help clear it up.
I think if we were to stop pussyfootin' around with 3D versions of the damn prequel trilogy we could flesh things out even more with the Mandalorians. They along with the Sith species (not to be confused with the faction) are two of the most fascinating groups in the entire Star Wars universe. In my humble opinion of course. Both early histories are mostly lost in the ether.
K'oyacyi!
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I think they should too, even though I'm not that into the whole Ancient/Old Republic Era stuff. I'm more into the Empire/Rebellion Eras, personally.
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I like the eras multiple thousands of years BBY because it's less known. I actually had someone deride me for wanting to do something in 100,000 BBY because they thought nothing exciting could happen. I would have agreed if it wasn't for the fact Coruscant, Korriban (and by extension the Sith), the Muurshantre Extinction, and the Dathomir temples were getting their start around that time. I think that's fascinating to think about the Sith species really getting off of the ground and Coruscant being newly made!
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Actually wookiepedia has information on this.
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Taung
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Mandalorians
You see after they had been banished from Coruscant and had found/conquered a planet of their own they began to accept members of other species to join them while raiding other planets. So that's how they became a multi-species army. Then the original Taung were killed of by Revan and his armies just befor KOTOR. (Or atleast they suffered so many casualties that the species died off.)
Slightly on topic I've been having a bit of Star wars binge lately. First I watched a lets play of Jedi Knight: outcast, then I got myself Jedi academy (I like the swordfighting although I still haven't gotten hang of blocks. So I just mostly try to push the Sith down an elevator shaft or other deep pits. Hey it works.) and begun playing it and now out of curiosity I began watching the clone wars series. And then I found out that Timothy Zahn has written another Star wars book and it came out last year so I'm gonna have to buy that one as well...
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That doesn't explain all my points, sadly. And anyways, my recent reading thru the Wookieepedia is what sparked this in the first place. There is still a lot more we can learn about the Dha Werda Verda and the Mandalorians. Besides, the Dha Werda Verda were only believed to be extinct. Who says the final remaining Mand'alor was the final one? We don't know it. Hell, according to the sources the Star Wars in-universe anthropologists are still confused about the Dha Werda Verda and whether they were actually the first Mandalorians.
There is a lot more to learn, I am sure. Just like we need more information about the ancient Sith species.
And what about those female Taung and the Sorcerers of Rhand? Much to be discovered here, I think.
At any rate, I thought this was neat:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4dopv9TrvI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6gKLk-5QPw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrRhcgnhjkQ
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And then I found out that Timothy Zahn has written another Star wars book and it came out last year so I'm gonna have to buy that one as well...
That's because Zahn is awesome(I'm also a fan of the bulk of James Luceno's work).
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And then I found out that Timothy Zahn has written another Star wars book and it came out last year so I'm gonna have to buy that one as well...
That's because Zahn is awesome(I'm also a fan of the bulk of James Luceno's work).
Before I ran into Zahn's Thrawn trilogy all the Star wars Expended universe stuff I had seen was horrible. (Granted I had started EU with those comics where the emperor returns as a clone...) Basically it seemed that in every story the imperials have a new even more powerful super weapon than the previous story. Mostly planet-destroying super weapons mind you, first they put one on a giant space ship, then they had a fleet of planet-destroying ships and Finally there was this one story about a fighter sized ship that could blow up stars... And Boba Fett comes back from an apparent death and then suffers a new apparent death.
Then came Zahn. Wait what do you mean the villains don't need planet-killing super weapons? And the main villain is not an homicidal-egomaniac? Can they do that!?
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I really wish that they had done a better job with Daala. She had potential at the start. The idea that pockets of the Empire were hidden away was a good one. Then they royally effed her up and made her an embarrassment to female military commanders everywhere. (seriously, sucking your superior officer's cock is not an appropriate per-requisite for becoming a high ranking military commander. I hate nepotism with a firey passion))
I always particularly enjoyed the Young Jedi Knight series as well as the other series that followed the Solo twins. I think Caedus was brilliant. Tenel-Ka was a rather interesting character on top of it.
Also I think you refer to the Jedi Academy series which admittedly could've been better. Kyp Durron was just... not well written. And the Sun Crusher was insane. We already had a similar character as Kyp in the form of the combination of Zekk and Brakiss.
The Shadow Academy was the only bright spot in the Young Jedi Knights series. But it was also ruined by a clone of the Emperor.
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Yeah the sun crusher was in those books. Mom bought me one of them (not the first one of course) and after reading it I decided to stay away from that writer/series.
I did read more about Daala from Wookiepedia and agree that she appears to be a waste of potential.
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I did read more about Daala from Wookiepedia and agree that she appears to be a waste of potential.
That makes me feel better. I've had so many people tell me I was wrong on that front. Hah. Still, she's hot.
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How did technology progress so fast in the 40 years between, Tales of the Jedi and Knights of the Old Republic?
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I really wish that they had done a better job with Daala. She had potential at the start. The idea that pockets of the Empire were hidden away was a good one. Then they royally effed her up and made her an embarrassment to female military commanders everywhere. (seriously, sucking your superior officer's cock is not an appropriate per-requisite for becoming a high ranking military commander. I hate nepotism with a firey passion))
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The worst part is that the authors go out of their way to tell that "she did it by her own merit"bs
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During her time in the academy it was by her own merit until she met Tarkin. After that it was just pissed away. What happened during the academy no longer mattered. Also wtf was this the whole Galactic Alliance Chief of State Daala thing? How the HELL did anyone think this was a good idea?!
How did technology progress so fast in the 40 years between, Tales of the Jedi and Knights of the Old Republic?
Are you referring to ships and the like? It's probably related to the continued in-fighting.
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I'd also really like to see something about the earliest eras, before the Great Hyperspace War.
From a time when lightsabers had to have an external power source attached by cable, when interstellar travel was a rare and difficult undertaking, when the Star Wars universe was closer to the Planetary Romance genre than Space Opera.
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I'm currently reading Wraith Squadron. Allston's awesome, and his books are great reads with lots of action and humor.
I always like Zahn's book; couldn't stand Travis.
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(http://i.imgur.com/MIZ7D.jpg)
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I really wish that they had done a better job with Daala. She had potential at the start. The idea that pockets of the Empire were hidden away was a good one. Then they royally effed her up and made her an embarrassment to female military commanders everywhere. (seriously, sucking your superior officer's cock is not an appropriate per-requisite for becoming a high ranking military commander. I hate nepotism with a firey passion))
I didn't read much outside of Zahn, is there any that show the Empire in a better light?
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I really wish that they had done a better job with Daala. She had potential at the start. The idea that pockets of the Empire were hidden away was a good one. Then they royally effed her up and made her an embarrassment to female military commanders everywhere. (seriously, sucking your superior officer's cock is not an appropriate per-requisite for becoming a high ranking military commander. I hate nepotism with a firey passion))
I didn't read much outside of Zahn, is there any that show the Empire in a better light?
I wouldn't say 'better light'. It does make them look a little less bumbly tho. I can't remember the titles.
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I really wish that they had done a better job with Daala. She had potential at the start. The idea that pockets of the Empire were hidden away was a good one. Then they royally effed her up and made her an embarrassment to female military commanders everywhere. (seriously, sucking your superior officer's cock is not an appropriate per-requisite for becoming a high ranking military commander. I hate nepotism with a firey passion))
I didn't read much outside of Zahn, is there any that show the Empire in a better light?
I wouldn't say 'better light'. It does make them look a little less bumbly tho. I can't remember the titles.
When I finish what I'm writing (am trying to get it done for the Black Library publishing window for new authors in April), I could always have a go. 8)
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Is it even possible to show the Empire in a "better light"??
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Is it even possible to show the Empire in a "better light"??
Droyk, woman. Depends on who you ask.
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Good point, as long as don't ask any alien species, Jedi on the run, or any of Palpatine's political enemies, you might get a positive response.
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"Human superiority" was pretty much an integral part of Palpatine's empire, but the remnant got rid of that at some point.
Then again even the remnant and the Fel empire do some questionable stuff but in those cases it seems to be mostly caused by few crooked politicians (How many decent moffs have we seen?) or the sith.
Still at least when Zahn is writing we see that some imperials are just doing their job out of loyalty to the empire and it's not like they go out of their ways to torture puppies just for the evulz.
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Yeah, the Empire isn't pure evil, there are decent folks that served it like Pellaeon.
it's not like they go out of their ways to torture puppies just for the evulz.
Is it wrong that the image of Palpatine torturing a puppy just formed in my head??
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The Mandalorians just wanted a fight.
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Bump city to alert fellow Star Wars fans of Ralph McQuarrie's passing: http://www.denofgeek.com/movies/1269784/in_memoriam_concept_designer_ralph_mcquarrie.html
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I really wish that they had done a better job with Daala. She had potential at the start. The idea that pockets of the Empire were hidden away was a good one. Then they royally effed her up and made her an embarrassment to female military commanders everywhere. (seriously, sucking your superior officer's cock is not an appropriate per-requisite for becoming a high ranking military commander. I hate nepotism with a firey passion))
I didn't read much outside of Zahn, is there any that show the Empire in a better light?
I wouldn't say 'better light'. It does make them look a little less bumbly tho. I can't remember the titles.
When I finish what I'm writing (am trying to get it done for the Black Library publishing window for new authors in April), I could always have a go. 8)
Wow, really? I liked a couple of the heresy series.
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Found this awesome Star Wars article (http://www.forbes.com/sites/alexknapp/2012/02/13/five-leadership-mistakes-of-the-galactic-empire/) on the mistakes made by the Galactic Empire. :D