2016 Democratic Presidential Primaries

[The_Queen]

Hey don't get me wrong. If Hillary is the nominee, and Colorado looks close, I'll vote for her. But it'll be with a sour taste in my mouth. I just don't trust her on the most important problem, the corporations. She's just too friendly with them.

And, to clarify by what I mean when I say "the cult of Bernie," it is the things that Art pointed out: vague accusations of conspiracy and aversion to answering questions on specifics. What you said here is something that I think is a very fair disagreement. I still think on important issues like Wal-Mart v. Dukes, Citizens United, and the Daimler case (restricting where you can sue a big corporation for their injury, adding potentially massive costs to litigation for injured victims of big corporations). I think SCoTUS wise she'll be unimaginably good (as would Bernie), legislatively maybe not so, but that is another area of polite disagreement that is slightly tangential to our hypothetical "Vote for the democrats in November" argument now. But, overall, this is a fair disagreement, and not indicative of the cult behavior that I sometimes accuse others of.

[lord gibbon]

Thank you. And sorry if I was a bit snappy or insulting earlier, I had a rather rough day at work.

[The_Queen]

Thank you. And sorry if I was a bit snappy or insulting earlier, I had a rather rough day at work.

Oh, that was you. Let's just pretend it was Paragon. Call it even, mate?

[nickiknack]

And you just don't get that I can't in good conscience vote for her, given that she's a lying, Corporate Shrill.  I can no longer support the Democratic Party, I don't give a shit at this point, I have nothing left to lose. It's not compromise, when you sell yourself out short form the very beginning, that's capitulation.

[Art Vandelay]

And you just don't get that I can't in good conscience vote for her, given that she's a lying, Corporate Shrill.  I can no longer support the Democratic Party, I don't give a shit at this point, I have nothing left to lose.

You and rest of the working class have a hell of a lot left to lose. The US is still a far cry from the likes of China or India.

[RavynousHunter]

And you just don't get that I can't in good conscience vote for her, given that she's a lying, Corporate Shrill.  I can no longer support the Democratic Party, I don't give a shit at this point, I have nothing left to lose. It's not compromise, when you sell yourself out short form the very beginning, that's capitulation.

Done.

[dpareja]

And you just don't get that I can't in good conscience vote for her, given that she's a lying, Corporate Shrill.  I can no longer support the Democratic Party, I don't give a shit at this point, I have nothing left to lose. It's not compromise, when you sell yourself out short form the very beginning, that's capitulation.

So in your mind Hillary Clinton is as bad as Donald Trump, Marco Rubio, or Ted Cruz?

[nickiknack]

No, but I'm not going to vote for her. I don't forgive Clintons for what they did to the Democratic party in the 1990s, and will never.

[ironbite]

At this point I'm willing to compromise but I'm not gonna pretend Hilary is more electable then Sanders in the GE.  I think and believe Sanders has his head on straight when it comes to almost every issue while Hilary only has me on social issues.  Economic wise Hildog is so far in Wall Street's pocket it ain't funny.  I understand Nicki's frustration with the current "left" wing party but I'm not willing to stomp my feet on this.  We have a real chance to show the establishment that progressive, liberal, socialist policies can work.  But I'm not going to accept a candidate who I'm told I have to vote for.

Ironbite- and that's how it is

[mellenORL]

This is why I wish Hillary would take on Sanders as a running mate. He would be the tie vote breaker in the Senate, for one. And he is already a respected Senator there, even if seen as an honorable enemy by some. Sanders as at least the VP candidate might salvage some of the Bernie supporters, the disenfranchised voters who otherwise will not vote at all out of bitterness, or vote Indy or Green, which is as harmful in close elections as voting GOP. If momentum is lost on the Dem side, not only will we lose the White House, but Congress and gubernatorial races are gonna end up just that much redder.

[RavynousHunter]

Actually, Hillary/Bernie would probably be ideal.  Congress' big job is money, so Bernie can handle that while Hillary handles social issues.  Bernie can dick-kick the Senate and get shit done as a VP that he might not have the chance to do as President.

[Askold]

...Hillary/Sanders team would get at least as much resistance as Obama has and the congress would do everything they can to stall and filibuster. The only difference is that instead of talking about the birth certificate, Muslim roots and Obama literally being the anti-Christ they would talk about Sanders being a dirty commie and all the 500 different (mainly fake) scandals Hillary has.

[Svata]

Link to an actual tweet/convo sent at me/had with me. I could care less if you know who I am, really. (Jackson is me)

[Art Vandelay]

Link to an actual tweet/convo sent at me/had with me. I could care less if you know who I am, really. (Jackson is me)

So how much could you care less?

[Svata]

Some. But not much. The only thing I would care less about is if a GOP candidate walked up to my door and needed help with a flat tire.