Ferguson murder

[MadCatTLX]

As the Vice crew are putting on there bulletproof vests, one guy said "I really never wanted to have to put my vest on in an American city. For perspective, the last time I had to wear this was in Gaza."

Shit is going down even harder than I imagined it would.

Oh shit, There was just a huge explosion!

Edit: The police are claiming they're taking fire.

The horizon is glowing orange with fire. I've jokingly said I wanted to see the world burn, guess I got it.

[I am lizard]

Yeah, I'm not believing shit the cops say there.

[Eiki-mun]

The police can claim all they want. We all know they lie.

[Id82]

I just have to post to rant.
So I was watching the Ferguson debacle going on with my conservative father in law, on Fox news of course. In which he decided to bring up that you should never go for a cops gun what was that stupid kid thinking. And then says that the cop was only defending himself, you know how many people are killed trying to attack a cop, and all of the protestors in Ferguson don't realize this. They just want to rob stores and get away with it.
I tried to bring up how it's not about the crime that occured, it's about black people feeling targeted as criminals. It's been building up to this since Trayvon, and the man that shot and killed that black kid at the gas station. It's a group frustration against the injustices being brought towards them
He then proceeded in telling me, yeah and just how many black people killed haven't they talked about between those crimes. Why are those deaths significant? Then went on a rant on how black people are a very violent culture which goes back to their African roots. There are a lot of black people in jail because they are violent. He then went to compare them to Japanese people, where Japan has very little crime and harsh punishments in prison. Asian people come over here and don't start crime and are very successful.
When I tried to bring up how guns are banned in Japan, which may contribute to less crime and less deaths. He brought up how guns kill very little people and that they save over 2 million people a year. Hispanics and blacks join gains blah blah blah. At this point I shut off my ears and tried to stop listening as he went on a tirade about how he was witnessed to violent black people growing up. He sounded like a living fox news talking point.

I just couldn't believe what I was hearing. He pretty much just said that black people as a whole are violent, and are most likely to cause crimes.
I hate how conservatives always seem to attack problems at the surface instead of trying to fix what causes the problems in the first place. Black people cause more crime and violence, well throw them in jail that will solve the problem.
It has nothing to do with the fact that over 27 percent of black and 26 percent of hispanic people live in poverty. They then make the excuse that they live in poverty because they don't want to work. Of course that's the problem, it clearly has nothing to do with poverty stricken societies receiving low funds to improve education. It clearly has nothing to do with Young ethnic minorities growing up with piss poor education, low funds to improve the society they live in. It has nothing to do with the fact that they grow up feeling like nobody cares about them so why should they give a shit about society and other people. That they have to work three jobs just to survive because of their poor education.
No it's because they're a violent race of people and they need to be thrown in jail.
I fucking hate this conservative blame the victim mentality.
Fuck our infrastructure lets spend trillions of dollars on defense to kill those scary arabs, because our society doesn't need it clearly.
Sorry about my rant I just got so angry listening to my in law. Just when I thought that I could get a long with him.

[I am lizard]

Don't feel sorry, I'd be pissed off if my dad said racist bullshit like that too.

[Cloud3514]

Today in post racism America: A mostly white jury decided that a white cop shouldn't see trial for killing an unarmed teenager, who happened to be black.

I wish I could say that I'm surprised.

[Tolpuddle Martyr]

Today in post racism America: A mostly white jury decided that a white cop shouldn't see trial for killing an unarmed teenager, who happened to be black.

I wish I could say that I'm surprised.

I knew this would happen, I knew that the powers that be would pretend the justice system wasn't broken and would appeal for "calm" whilst ignoring any actions on the part of the police to shatter it.

Sometimes it sucks being right.

[RavynousHunter]

This has probably been building a while, honestly.  I mean, look at the other shit before this: Zimmerman got off with zero charges (to my knowledge), and even the Rodney King trial that sparked the LA Riots back in the 90s didn't lead to much of shit in terms of actual change.  People that want change notice when they don't get it, or when they're given meaningless platitudes in its stead.  People, and not just those directly affected, are rightfully pissed off because, once again, we're being told that, unless you're white, you're not going to get a shred of protection under the law.  This is one of the reasons fucking gangs exist in the first place, and if you piss people off enough, they will eventually break and start to run riot.  Its happened before at many, many points in history, yet folks in power never quite seem to learn the fucking lesson.  This is what happens when you disenfranchise people.

[Meshakhad]

I'm not convinced that the cop was guilty, but I do feel strongly that they should have indicted. Unless it was blatantly obvious that he was innocent, the case should have gone to trial.

[I am lizard]

I'm not convinced that the cop was guilty, but I do feel strongly that they should have indicted. Unless it was blatantly obvious that he was innocent, the case should have gone to trial.

The kindest spin I can put is Wilson was simply a trigger happy nutcase. Wilson is far bigger and stronger than Brown and possessed several non-lethal means of incapacitation.

[I am lizard]

The guy who exposed two rapists now faces 10 years in jail.

The person who exposed war crimes faces 35 years in prison.

The guy who shot an unarmed black teen 6 times won't even get indicted.

[chitoryu12]

The evidence from the grand jury is gradually being released, so you can find it on Google. A few salient points:

* Wilson claimed that fighting Brown was like fighting "Hulk Hogan" and he fired because he was afraid that Brown would literally kill him by punching him so hard. Wilson's medical records and photographs of his injuries were released and he suffered nothing but minor bruising to the right side of his face, indicative of a fairly weak punch.

* Wilson claimed that Brown, against all logic, charged with his head down like a football player while simultaneously reaching into his waistband for a nonexistent gun.

* Wilson admitted that he shot at Brown as he fled and that Brown had his hands up when he continued shooting.

Also, the National Bar Association is calling bullshit and prepping to bring federal charges. They said that there's no way the (I should point out, almost all white) grand jury failed to get an indictment with the available evidence and witnesses, and they're suspicious about it.

[Ultimate Paragon]

Something's rotten in the state of Missouri.

[Cloud3514]

* Wilson claimed that Brown, against all logic, charged with his head down like a football player while simultaneously reaching into his waistband for a nonexistent gun.

* Wilson admitted that he shot at Brown as he fled and that Brown had his hands up when he continued shooting.

TOTALLY not a contradiction.

[mellenORL]

Wilson admitted that he shot at Brown as he fled and that Brown had his hands up when he continued shooting.

That's the federal case in a nutshell.

Brown was a nasty customer in the convenience store - we all saw the security cam footage of him tussling with the store manager. He was probably anything but polite when the cop told him to get the "fuck outta the middle of the street" later on. But even if Brown DID actually charge back towards Wilson, Wilson had every chance to retreat to the safety of his patrol car, or use a Taser or pepper spray, or simply use his baton. The "he was reaching into his waistband" thing is the standard cop-out for emptying a clip into a suspect.

Teenagers sometimes go through a "I'm a tough guy! Fuck all of you!" stage. It is part of growing up. There should be no excuse to gun down somebody just because they are acting like a bully and an asshole. Yet clearly the grand jury believes that doing any of that while black is justification to be summarily slaughtered.