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Re: Ferguson murder
« Reply #420 on: December 05, 2014, 02:37:58 am »
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A veteran weighs in on the police response in Ferguson vs. the response of the National Guard deployed there.
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Re: Ferguson murder
« Reply #421 on: December 05, 2014, 12:22:12 pm »
That vet's picture album and analysis are just excellent. Simultaneous to all the protests going on about the victims, we need protests to also demand de-militarizing all PD's. They need to have their unnecessary toys taken away. Dumping all that military surplus gear and vehicles, etc. on PD's is as lethally stupid as giving race cars to first time drivers.
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Re: Ferguson murder
« Reply #422 on: December 05, 2014, 01:36:05 pm »
That vet's picture album and analysis are just excellent. Simultaneous to all the protests going on about the victims, we need protests to also demand de-militarizing all PD's. They need to have their unnecessary toys taken away. Dumping all that military surplus gear and vehicles, etc. on PD's is as lethally stupid as giving race cars to first time drivers.
Yes.
Why the fuck does every small town PD need high caliber sniper rifles, 100s of assault rifles, and an APC?

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Re: Ferguson murder
« Reply #423 on: December 05, 2014, 02:43:21 pm »
That vet's picture album and analysis are just excellent. Simultaneous to all the protests going on about the victims, we need protests to also demand de-militarizing all PD's. They need to have their unnecessary toys taken away. Dumping all that military surplus gear and vehicles, etc. on PD's is as lethally stupid as giving race cars to first time drivers.
Yes.
Why the fuck does every small town PD need high caliber sniper rifles, 100s of assault rifles, and an APC?

How else are you gonna keep those uppity minorities in line?
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Re: Ferguson murder
« Reply #424 on: December 05, 2014, 04:24:17 pm »
That vet's picture album and analysis are just excellent. Simultaneous to all the protests going on about the victims, we need protests to also demand de-militarizing all PD's. They need to have their unnecessary toys taken away. Dumping all that military surplus gear and vehicles, etc. on PD's is as lethally stupid as giving race cars to first time drivers.
Yes.
Why the fuck does every small town PD need high caliber sniper rifles, 100s of assault rifles, and an APC?

B-but what about AL-QAIDA?!?!

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Re: Ferguson murder
« Reply #425 on: December 05, 2014, 04:36:55 pm »
That's pretty much what the mindset is.  Al-Qaida, the big bad boogieman, somehow getting on US soil and doing something.  And the cops only have 9 mms and shotguns to deal with them.

Ironbite-hence why a lot of small town police departments have tanks on the equipment list.

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Re: Ferguson murder
« Reply #426 on: December 05, 2014, 04:44:49 pm »
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Re: Ferguson murder
« Reply #427 on: December 06, 2014, 07:13:21 pm »
That's pretty much what the mindset is.  Al-Qaida, the big bad boogieman, somehow getting on US soil and doing something.  And the cops only have 9 mms and shotguns to deal with them.

Ironbite-hence why a lot of small town police departments have tanks on the equipment list.

Part of the reason is:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Hollywood_shootout
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Re: Ferguson murder
« Reply #428 on: December 06, 2014, 07:18:04 pm »
Ok yeah there's that.  Forgot utterly about that.  But the point is 9/11 pushed a lot of PDs to ask for and get surplus military gear.

Ironbite-it just wasn't that big a push after North Hollywood

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Re: Ferguson murder
« Reply #429 on: December 06, 2014, 11:55:39 pm »
That stuff is dirt cheap and aggressively marketed to PD's - over a decade's worth of surplus from the withdrawal from Iraq and Afghanistan.
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Re: Ferguson murder
« Reply #430 on: December 07, 2014, 12:28:35 am »
That stuff is dirt cheap and aggressively marketed to PD's
Is it, I'd figure that shit must cost a pretty penny to taxpayers.

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Re: Ferguson murder
« Reply #431 on: December 07, 2014, 12:39:29 am »
That stuff is dirt cheap and aggressively marketed to PD's
Is it, I'd figure that shit must cost a pretty penny to taxpayers.

Just because it's paid for by the public doesn't mean there's no aggressive marketing involved.

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Re: Ferguson murder
« Reply #432 on: December 07, 2014, 12:40:41 am »
That stuff is dirt cheap and aggressively marketed to PD's
Is it, I'd figure that shit must cost a pretty penny to taxpayers.

Just because it's paid for by the public doesn't mean there's no aggressive marketing involved.

See: every war profiteering corporation
I was talking about the "cheap" part.

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Re: Ferguson murder
« Reply #433 on: December 07, 2014, 11:23:35 am »
http://www.cracked.com/blog/ferguson-eric-garner-why-death-should-outrage-us/?wa_user1=2&wa_user2=News&wa_user3=blog&wa_user4=feature_module

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Re: Ferguson murder
« Reply #434 on: December 07, 2014, 11:45:51 am »
I immediately found something I disagree with. Being angry at this injustice and being angry at rioters causing damages at the same time is more likely than the writer thinks.
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