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Community => Politics and Government => Topic started by: nickiknack on August 23, 2012, 12:48:25 pm
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Michael D. Higgins (who was elected president of Ireland last year) is fed up with over-the-top Tea Party rhetoric, and he isn't afraid to show it. Listen to him call out radio host Michael Graham on everything from health care to foreign policy in this heated exchange from 2010.
http://www.upworthy.com/a-tea-partier-decided-to-pick-a-fight-with-a-foreign-president-it-didnt-go-so-we?c=la1 (http://www.upworthy.com/a-tea-partier-decided-to-pick-a-fight-with-a-foreign-president-it-didnt-go-so-we?c=la1)
This is just too funny, I love it.
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Thanks for sharing this.
It's nice to know that even conservative, Catholic countries such as Ireland look down on the teabaggers.
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Thanks for sharing this.
It's nice to know that even conservative, Catholic countries such as Ireland look down on the teabaggers.
Just to be pedantic, you should say "countries such as the Republic of Ireland". Ireland is an island comprised of two countries.
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A) Northern Ireland is not a country
B) When most people refer to Ireland, in my experience, they refer to the Republic of.
Anyway, the Teabaggers are quite stupid, reaching Mussolini levels of nationalism.
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Anyway, the Teabaggers are quite stupid, reaching Mussolini levels of nationalism.
Honestly, the nationalism by itself I could deal with. It's the fact that they can't decide if they want to be conservative nationalists or Randroid libertarians that pisses me off. So they tout a bunch of intellectually conflicting policies because they are too stupid to think about what they are supporting.
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Heard this quite some time ago, unless its a different bitchslapping of Herr Graham.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5OWRRJh-PI
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Honestly, the nationalism by itself I could deal with. It's the fact that they can't decide if they want to be conservative nationalists or Randroid libertarians that pisses me off. So they tout a bunch of intellectually conflicting policies because they are too stupid to think about what they are supporting.
Wouldn't that be just plain old neo-conservatism? Neo-liberalism with an aggressive foreign policy?
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Honestly, the nationalism by itself I could deal with. It's the fact that they can't decide if they want to be conservative nationalists or Randroid libertarians that pisses me off. So they tout a bunch of intellectually conflicting policies because they are too stupid to think about what they are supporting.
Wouldn't that be just plain old neo-conservatism? Neo-liberalism with an aggressive foreign policy?
Well, the "Tea Party movement" has been completely hijacked by neocons, so...yeah. :P
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Well, the "Tea Party movement" has been completely hijacked by neocons, so...yeah. :P
I always assumed it was a neo-con movement (is there a better word?) from the start.
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Well, the "Tea Party movement" has been completely hijacked by neocons, so...yeah. :P
I always assumed it was a neo-con movement (is there a better word?) from the start.
Sure, I got a better word: moron. As an aside, I thought the same, too. Basically, a bunch of libertarian assholes who got angry because Obama is black spent some taxpayer money on something they didn't totally agree with, and that therefore makes any and all government spending bad. Let's ignore the fact that government spending is the reason we have any educational system at all, at least mostly-working infrastructure, a form of organized law enforcement, and a god damned military.
So, yes, it is accurate to simply call them morons.
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Basically, a bunch of libertarian assholes who got angry because Obama is black spent some taxpayer money on something they didn't totally agree with, and that therefore makes any and all government spending bad.
While that's more or less accurate for how it became mainstream and morphed into its current neoconservative form, its origins predate Obama's presidency by at least a decade or so. The tax day protests and tea bag theme (such as mailing tea bags to politicians) have been around since the 90s, all the way up through the Bush presidency.
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Damn, someobody's kicking ass and taking names, and it ain't the Tea Party.
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Basically, a bunch of libertarian assholes who got angry because Obama is black spent some taxpayer money on something they didn't totally agree with, and that therefore makes any and all government spending bad.
While that's more or less accurate for how it became mainstream and morphed into its current neoconservative form, its origins predate Obama's presidency by at least a decade or so. The tax day protests and tea bag theme (such as mailing tea bags to politicians) have been around since the 90s, all the way up through the Bush presidency.
Alas, if only they'd had the balls to actually teabag politicians... (sighs) Such an opportunity, wasted.
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"Just a wanker whipping up fear."
That's the Tea Party in a nutshell. Thankfully they have nowhere near the power they had only two or three years ago.
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I believe this speech is at least 2 years old, actually.
That video posted in the OP actually cuts out the guy who is debating him. Here's the full 20 minute version:
http://media.newstalk.ie/extra/1602/popup
It's worth listening to, if only to witness a blithering moron debate a hopping mad Irishman.
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As always, the Moonbats (http://moonbattery.com/?p=16289#comment-377237) are in a frenzy:
Wow. WTF gives him the right to criticize ANYTHING American?
Absolutely nothing. Which is why the majority isn’t listening.
fuck this green lepricon son of a bitch
You know what?
Fork him.
In the left ear.
Sideways.
With a wire brush.
Semper fi!
If my Irish grandfather were still here, he’d kick this clown’s ass right off the Old Sod.
Holy crap! What a hysterical, shrieking prog. When he got to the part about whipping people up into a frenzy of fear, the first thing that popped into my mind was the master of frenzied fear – Rev. Sharpton.
Do us all a favor, Mr Higgins… die soon.
These Marxist scum are becoming totally unhinged. They see the commie brass ring before them, they are as close as they have ever had to realizing their goal of total Marxism world wide. After decades of planning at universities and working in low rung Government positions they are now in charge and they want to complete their life’s work of total control with themselves the elite and us as the slave class. This will get much more evident as the collapse gets closer.
This drivel coming from an Irish communist doesn’t surprise me. Remember, Europe is full of 1) The people who were too stupid to leave when their country was in famine and in massive decline and 2) Too chickenshit to leave because at least their lord or king gave them a moldy potato every now and then.
They are the ones left behind. It makes sense that their descendants are socialist losers who cling to the gov’t teat.
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This drivel coming from an Irish communist doesn’t surprise me. Remember, Europe is full of 1) The people who were too stupid to leave when their country was in famine and in massive decline and 2) Too chickenshit to leave because at least their lord or king gave them a moldy potato every now and then.
They are the ones left behind. It makes sense that their descendants are socialist losers who cling to the gov’t teat.
...Yes, working to improve your homeland instead of abandoning it en masse is cowardly. Like how dude's saying this behind the veil of the internet. Say that to a true-blood Irishman, to his face. See how long it takes the Irishman's knee to make contact with his dick.
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As always, the Moonbats (http://moonbattery.com/?p=16289#comment-377237) are in a frenzy:
Wow. WTF gives him the right to criticize ANYTHING American?
Absolutely nothing. Which is why the majority isn’t listening.
fuck this green lepricon son of a bitch
You know what?
Fork him.
In the left ear.
Sideways.
With a wire brush.
Semper fi!
If my Irish grandfather were still here, he’d kick this clown’s ass right off the Old Sod.
Holy crap! What a hysterical, shrieking prog. When he got to the part about whipping people up into a frenzy of fear, the first thing that popped into my mind was the master of frenzied fear – Rev. Sharpton.
Do us all a favor, Mr Higgins… die soon.
These Marxist scum are becoming totally unhinged. They see the commie brass ring before them, they are as close as they have ever had to realizing their goal of total Marxism world wide. After decades of planning at universities and working in low rung Government positions they are now in charge and they want to complete their life’s work of total control with themselves the elite and us as the slave class. This will get much more evident as the collapse gets closer.
This drivel coming from an Irish communist doesn’t surprise me. Remember, Europe is full of 1) The people who were too stupid to leave when their country was in famine and in massive decline and 2) Too chickenshit to leave because at least their lord or king gave them a moldy potato every now and then.
They are the ones left behind. It makes sense that their descendants are socialist losers who cling to the gov’t teat.
Bo-Jangles says:
August 23, 2012 at 9:33 pm
Looking at Europe today makes you realize we made a huge mistake in not letting Hitler keep it.
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The Irish President FTW!
The Teabaggers FTL!
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A) Northern Ireland is not a country
B) When most people refer to Ireland, in my experience, they refer to the Republic of.
A) I never said Northern Ireland is a country. I said Ireland is an island comprising two countries. It contains he Republic of Ireland and part of the UK - therefore there are two countries in the island.
Plus it's thought of and refered to as a country in the same way that Scotland is thought of and refered to as a country. Maybe technically they're not countries because of being within the UK, but they both have their own parliament, legal system, laws and economies and budgets that are separate from Englands (although THE budget and some laws affect Northern Ireland too). And wikipedia says "it is variously described as a country, province or region of the UK, amongst other terms."
And try telling a Scotsman that Scotland isn't a country and see how long it is before he breaks your nose with his forehead.
B) Yes, but it's still like when people say "Korea" - there are two, which one are you talking about? Be more specific. And I feel it's important that people understand the difference. I mean, there was a spot of bother about the issue after all that only resulted in the murder of a member of the royal family, the attempted murder of the the Prime Minister and the murders of hundreds of civilians, soldiers and police officers, some of whom I knew (albeit indirectly - friend of a friend type thing). So I'm sorry if I feel strongly about it.