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Offline Lt. Fred

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Fairly substantial massacre in Egypt.
« on: August 16, 2013, 07:58:02 am »
What do we all think? Yay democracy?
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Re: Fairly substantial massacre in Egypt.
« Reply #1 on: August 16, 2013, 08:10:00 am »
I can has link?
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Re: Fairly substantial massacre in Egypt.
« Reply #2 on: August 16, 2013, 10:04:22 am »
What I can gather from this is that:

The people elected a guy from the Muslim Brotherhood, expecting a Democracy but instead he was a fundie & poor at his job (no duh, Muslim Brotherhood).

They & the military then ousted him.

Supporters of the disposed new leader began protesting.

The military then began cracking down in the most brutal, subhuman fashion.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/16/egypt-protests_n_3766589.html

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2013/08/15/why-the-bloody-crackdown-in-egypt-should-matter-to-every-american/

So, coming from a bunch of protests for Democracy & freedom.....we end up with IslamoFundies vs. A Military Junta and multitudes of innocent civilians dead. It seems these guys were better off with Mubarak.  :P

Evil against Evil! I wash my hands of this!

Time to demand the Feds to get their noses out of anything in the Mid-East!

Let's petition the Green Party to be "Green Dog Democrats", they'll listen to us!
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Re: Fairly substantial massacre in Egypt.
« Reply #3 on: August 16, 2013, 10:54:46 am »
So basically, the whole Arab Spring which was hailed as a sign of region-wide democratisation is now firmly confirmed to be nothing more than infighting between would-be dictators?

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxlhyX-4qKI" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxlhyX-4qKI</a>
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Re: Fairly substantial massacre in Egypt.
« Reply #4 on: August 16, 2013, 11:02:40 am »
Yep.
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Re: Fairly substantial massacre in Egypt.
« Reply #5 on: August 16, 2013, 11:05:09 am »
I've officially reached the point where I can't actually care about the situation anymore.

I've exhausted my care power.  It's gone.  My caring doesn't matter one fuck anyways, because it isn't going to save one life or anything.  So, why bother?
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Re: Fairly substantial massacre in Egypt.
« Reply #6 on: August 16, 2013, 11:19:49 am »
Quote from: Magus Silveresti on August 16, 2013, 11:05:09 am
I've officially reached the point where I can't actually care about the situation anymore.

I've exhausted my care power.  It's gone.  My caring doesn't matter one fuck anyways, because it isn't going to save one life or anything.  So, why bother?

I'm with you. These bozos deserve each other!
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Re: Fairly substantial massacre in Egypt.
« Reply #7 on: August 16, 2013, 11:22:38 am »
What.

Are you really Spuki?

(I'm teasing.)
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Re: Fairly substantial massacre in Egypt.
« Reply #8 on: August 16, 2013, 11:39:05 am »
Quote from: Art Vandelay on August 16, 2013, 10:54:46 am
So basically, the whole Arab Spring which was hailed as a sign of region-wide democratisation is now firmly confirmed to be nothing more than infighting between would-be dictators?

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxlhyX-4qKI" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxlhyX-4qKI</a>
Only really in Egypt as Libya and Tunisia have been relatively stable. 
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Re: Fairly substantial massacre in Egypt.
« Reply #9 on: August 16, 2013, 11:52:47 am »
Quote from: kefkaownsall on August 16, 2013, 11:39:05 am
Only really in Egypt as Libya and Tunisia have been relatively stable. 
Give it time. I'll bet my favourite bollock that their democracies will last maybe two more election cycles at the very most.
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Re: Fairly substantial massacre in Egypt.
« Reply #10 on: August 16, 2013, 12:35:08 pm »
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Re: Fairly substantial massacre in Egypt.
« Reply #11 on: August 16, 2013, 01:18:35 pm »
Quote from: Art Vandelay on August 16, 2013, 11:52:47 am
Quote from: kefkaownsall on August 16, 2013, 11:39:05 am
Only really in Egypt as Libya and Tunisia have been relatively stable. 
Give it time. I'll bet my favourite bollock that their democracies will last maybe two more election cycles at the very most.
Possbily
just you are sounding like those faux holes who were all Muslims can't do democracy
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Re: Fairly substantial massacre in Egypt.
« Reply #12 on: August 16, 2013, 01:31:21 pm »
Fully becoming acculturated to democracy takes some time. Look at all the hell and anarchy that France went through in the 17th and 18th centuries. Old ideas and paradigms are hard to shift into a higher gear. At least with higher literacy rates, superb communications and rapid dissemination of knowledge being the norm every where now, that acculturation process will be exponentially faster for emerging democratic societies, but still a bloody and haphazard process to go through.
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Re: Fairly substantial massacre in Egypt.
« Reply #13 on: August 16, 2013, 01:53:05 pm »
Quote from: kefkaownsall on August 16, 2013, 01:18:35 pm
Quote from: Art Vandelay on August 16, 2013, 11:52:47 am
Quote from: kefkaownsall on August 16, 2013, 11:39:05 am
Only really in Egypt as Libya and Tunisia have been relatively stable. 
Give it time. I'll bet my favourite bollock that their democracies will last maybe two more election cycles at the very most.
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just you are sounding like those faux holes who were all Muslims can't do democracy

Well, I think we can safely establish that the Muslim Brotherhood can't.
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Re: Fairly substantial massacre in Egypt.
« Reply #14 on: August 16, 2013, 02:15:29 pm »
Quote from: Dakota Bob on August 16, 2013, 01:53:05 pm
Quote from: kefkaownsall on August 16, 2013, 01:18:35 pm
Quote from: Art Vandelay on August 16, 2013, 11:52:47 am
Quote from: kefkaownsall on August 16, 2013, 11:39:05 am
Only really in Egypt as Libya and Tunisia have been relatively stable. 
Give it time. I'll bet my favourite bollock that their democracies will last maybe two more election cycles at the very most.
Possbily
just you are sounding like those faux holes who were all Muslims can't do democracy

Well, I think we can safely establish that the Muslim Brotherhood can't.

The guy I live with is from Iran. His take on it is that the Western leaders thought parties like the Muslim Brotherhood were just Islamic versions of parties like Germany's Christian Democrats. Oops.
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