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Re: Two NYPD Officers Murdered
« Reply #15 on: December 21, 2014, 08:36:32 pm »
I don't want to say they deserve it, because they obviously don't deserve it, but... you know, if there wasn't so much police brutality going on right now, maybe this wouldn't have happened.

Hate to break it to you man but this dude was psycho and was looking for someone in blue to kill.

Ironbite-sucks with the timing and everything.

I suppose so. Still makes me wonder if, if all this hadn't been happening, his targets might have been someone else. But who knows. Tragedy all around.
I'm sure if it wasn't cops it would have some people in a 7/11 or something.

I imagine there's going to be 500 million "Race hustlers only care when a black guy gets killed, they're the REAL RACISTS!" comments now.

The cops who got shot were Asian and Hispanic (Not sure on the second one, guessing based on names.).
I remember after Trayvon Martin there was some murder committed against some biker the right wing was rallying about, this was despite the fact all three were charged and one was white.

I imagine the "But what about Black-on-White crime!" BS has been around for a loong time, and the counterpoint will remain the same "When a black guy kills a white guy he will be convicted."

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Re: Two NYPD Officers Murdered
« Reply #16 on: December 21, 2014, 08:41:07 pm »
I don't want to say they deserve it, because they obviously don't deserve it, but... you know, if there wasn't so much police brutality going on right now, maybe this wouldn't have happened.

Hate to break it to you man but this dude was psycho and was looking for someone in blue to kill.

Ironbite-sucks with the timing and everything.

I suppose so. Still makes me wonder if, if all this hadn't been happening, his targets might have been someone else. But who knows. Tragedy all around.
I'm sure if it wasn't cops it would have some people in a 7/11 or something.

I imagine there's going to be 500 million "Race hustlers only care when a black guy gets killed, they're the REAL RACISTS!" comments now.

The cops who got shot were Asian and Hispanic (Not sure on the second one, guessing based on names.).
I remember after Trayvon Martin there was some murder committed against some biker the right wing was rallying about, this was despite the fact all three were charged and one was white.

I imagine the "But what about Black-on-White crime!" BS has been around for a loong time, and the counterpoint will remain the same "When a black guy kills a white guy he will be convicted."

Well, there are exceptions:


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Re: Two NYPD Officers Murdered
« Reply #17 on: December 21, 2014, 08:48:59 pm »
I don't want to say they deserve it, because they obviously don't deserve it, but... you know, if there wasn't so much police brutality going on right now, maybe this wouldn't have happened.

Hate to break it to you man but this dude was psycho and was looking for someone in blue to kill.

Ironbite-sucks with the timing and everything.

I suppose so. Still makes me wonder if, if all this hadn't been happening, his targets might have been someone else. But who knows. Tragedy all around.
I'm sure if it wasn't cops it would have some people in a 7/11 or something.

I imagine there's going to be 500 million "Race hustlers only care when a black guy gets killed, they're the REAL RACISTS!" comments now.

The cops who got shot were Asian and Hispanic (Not sure on the second one, guessing based on names.).
I remember after Trayvon Martin there was some murder committed against some biker the right wing was rallying about, this was despite the fact all three were charged and one was white.

I imagine the "But what about Black-on-White crime!" BS has been around for a loong time, and the counterpoint will remain the same "When a black guy kills a white guy he will be convicted."

Well, there are exceptions:



That trial was a travesty of justice in which the defence lawyer bamboozled the jury into ignoring all the traditional standards of proof in favour of "DNA evidence or bust". It's small consolation that he got taken for a ride in the civil proceedings.
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Re: Two NYPD Officers Murdered
« Reply #18 on: December 21, 2014, 09:02:52 pm »
I don't want to say they deserve it, because they obviously don't deserve it, but... you know, if there wasn't so much police brutality going on right now, maybe this wouldn't have happened.

Hate to break it to you man but this dude was psycho and was looking for someone in blue to kill.

Ironbite-sucks with the timing and everything.

I suppose so. Still makes me wonder if, if all this hadn't been happening, his targets might have been someone else. But who knows. Tragedy all around.
I'm sure if it wasn't cops it would have some people in a 7/11 or something.

I imagine there's going to be 500 million "Race hustlers only care when a black guy gets killed, they're the REAL RACISTS!" comments now.

The cops who got shot were Asian and Hispanic (Not sure on the second one, guessing based on names.).
I remember after Trayvon Martin there was some murder committed against some biker the right wing was rallying about, this was despite the fact all three were charged and one was white.

I imagine the "But what about Black-on-White crime!" BS has been around for a loong time, and the counterpoint will remain the same "When a black guy kills a white guy he will be convicted."

Well, there are exceptions:


Well, sure, but they're exceptions, not the standard.

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Re: Two NYPD Officers Murdered
« Reply #19 on: December 21, 2014, 09:04:08 pm »
I don't want to say they deserve it, because they obviously don't deserve it, but... you know, if there wasn't so much police brutality going on right now, maybe this wouldn't have happened.

Hate to break it to you man but this dude was psycho and was looking for someone in blue to kill.

Ironbite-sucks with the timing and everything.

I suppose so. Still makes me wonder if, if all this hadn't been happening, his targets might have been someone else. But who knows. Tragedy all around.
I'm sure if it wasn't cops it would have some people in a 7/11 or something.

I imagine there's going to be 500 million "Race hustlers only care when a black guy gets killed, they're the REAL RACISTS!" comments now.

The cops who got shot were Asian and Hispanic (Not sure on the second one, guessing based on names.).
I remember after Trayvon Martin there was some murder committed against some biker the right wing was rallying about, this was despite the fact all three were charged and one was white.

I imagine the "But what about Black-on-White crime!" BS has been around for a loong time, and the counterpoint will remain the same "When a black guy kills a white guy he will be convicted."

Well, there are exceptions:


Well, sure, but they're exceptions, not the standard.

Fair enough.

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Re: Two NYPD Officers Murdered
« Reply #20 on: December 21, 2014, 09:10:31 pm »
I don't want to say they deserve it, because they obviously don't deserve it, but... you know, if there wasn't so much police brutality going on right now, maybe this wouldn't have happened.

Hate to break it to you man but this dude was psycho and was looking for someone in blue to kill.

Ironbite-sucks with the timing and everything.

I suppose so. Still makes me wonder if, if all this hadn't been happening, his targets might have been someone else. But who knows. Tragedy all around.
I'm sure if it wasn't cops it would have some people in a 7/11 or something.

I imagine there's going to be 500 million "Race hustlers only care when a black guy gets killed, they're the REAL RACISTS!" comments now.

The cops who got shot were Asian and Hispanic (Not sure on the second one, guessing based on names.).
I remember after Trayvon Martin there was some murder committed against some biker the right wing was rallying about, this was despite the fact all three were charged and one was white.

I imagine the "But what about Black-on-White crime!" BS has been around for a loong time, and the counterpoint will remain the same "When a black guy kills a white guy he will be convicted."

Well, there are exceptions:



That trial was a travesty of justice in which the defence lawyer bamboozled the jury into ignoring all the traditional standards of proof in favour of "DNA evidence or bust". It's small consolation that he got taken for a ride in the civil proceedings.


Let's not forget the DA was a joke and there was a whole bunch of BS that the LAPD did that further poisoned this case.

Ironbite-the shenanigans this trial had was the stuff of legends.

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Re: Two NYPD Officers Murdered
« Reply #21 on: December 21, 2014, 09:51:49 pm »
While I think it has been said, it should be remembered that basically OJ was acquitted because despite appearing really guilty the LAPD doctored some evidence to make it look even more likely and got caught out doing it.

If the gloves don't fit you must acquit. It's not just a catchy line (which it is) its the fact that a jury must have reasonable doubt if some of the prosecution  evidence has been fabricated.

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Re: Two NYPD Officers Murdered
« Reply #22 on: December 21, 2014, 09:53:15 pm »
The case was a bad joke, start to finish.

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Re: Two NYPD Officers Murdered
« Reply #23 on: December 21, 2014, 10:27:11 pm »
Also, OJ Simpson was a rich celebrity. The only place the justice system is colorblind is at the top, where the rich, famous, and powerful can bribe and/or lawyer their way out of accountability for anything.

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Re: Two NYPD Officers Murdered
« Reply #24 on: December 22, 2014, 01:11:56 am »
Truly a tragedy. My heart goes out to their families.

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Re: Two NYPD Officers Murdered
« Reply #25 on: December 22, 2014, 02:51:16 pm »
Patrick Lynch is a rabble-rouser and a terrible representative of policemen, much like all other police union leaders across the nation from Alabama to Alaska. He and his type seek the "state within a state" brand of policing, to our mutual detriment.
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Re: Two NYPD Officers Murdered
« Reply #26 on: December 22, 2014, 07:14:51 pm »
Thankfully, it looks like the killer's girlfriend is expected to survive.

http://news.yahoo.com/authorities-id-woman-shot-man-killed-2-nypd-175708543.html
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Re: Two NYPD Officers Murdered
« Reply #27 on: December 24, 2014, 05:37:23 am »
The police union has acted absolutely disgracefully, deciding to dishonestly blame the mayor, exploiting the tragedy to demand he resign and reappoint Guiliani or perhaps Joe Stalin, or anyone more amenable to the vicious, brutal, ineffective, old-fashioned over-policing they prefer in any case. They also seem to believe they have a right not to be criticised under any circumstances, ever.

I'd despise them for the lack of regard they show their dead comrades, but actually I hate more their total contempt for the democratic process. Fuck them. Anyone who signs their evil, despicable petition should be instantly fired.
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Re: Two NYPD Officers Murdered
« Reply #28 on: December 26, 2014, 09:18:22 pm »